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Speaker 1: And yeah, we're gonna take a couple of days, take

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Speaker 1: know about you, but Adam Silver being exposed for forcing

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Speaker 1: Luca to the Lakers would be a much bigger deal

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Speaker 1: What do you think? Also, for the record, I don't

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Speaker 1: you think he's fat. We just think he's fat. He

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Speaker 1: you put him on any team like he's not. People

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Speaker 1: I definitely think it's a possibility. And if you told

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Speaker 1: space in Texas. Is like no guarantee to pass these

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00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 1: gambling laws. It it never added up to me, this

639
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 1: whole thing. And then his quotes about like work ethic

640
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 1: and he's including like Shaquille O'Neil. It's like this guy

641
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 1: was he like a plant. I don't get it, Like

642
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 1: it doesn't make sense. And there's some similarities here with

643
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 1: with the Broncos, where the dude that runs the Broncos

644
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 1: is like married to one of the Waltons. But like,

645
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 1: clearly they're not they had some superstar player, they wouldn't

646
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 1: randomly trade them. They clearly want to run that business.

647
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:45,879
Speaker 1: And it's not I don't know if it's just love

648
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 1: a football more because they like the business. It's a

649
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 1: cash cow. But what do they do They immediately go

650
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 1: out and give Sean Payton twenty million dollars a year

651
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 1: and say, you do whatever you want, make us a winner.

652
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 1: I don't get it. It's extremely shady. Now you'd be

653
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 1: like middle Cooff, you just hate thel. I do hate

654
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: the Lakers, But it does not make sense that they

655
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 1: just get handed one of the most talented young players

656
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:14,879
Speaker 1: we've ever seen overnight. It's like, well, they gave him,

657
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 1: you know, the biggest haul in the history of the sport. No,

658
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: they didn't. Actually didn't even give him that much. I

659
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 1: mean that's part of it. It's like wait, this trade

660
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: happened the middle of the night. They didn't even trade

661
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 1: him for that much. It'd be like if you're a

662
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 1: Browns fan and you just woke up, it's like, oh,

663
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett's you know in the forty nine ers, they

664
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 1: gave you a debo and a couple seconds, he'd be like,

665
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 1: what the fuck? Or you know, hey, cowboys, you just

666
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 1: you traded Mike into the Bills. It's like, what did

667
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 1: you get back? It's like, ah, they traded you a

668
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:47,720
Speaker 1: guard and a second and a third. You'd be shell shocked.

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00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 1: You wouldn't even be able to speak. That's this times

670
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 1: one hundred, except he goes like, you said, the Lakers,

671
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 1: this whole thing shady. I'm one hundred percent conspiracy theory.

672
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 1: Sometimes conspiracy theory. I feel like that word's been overused.

673
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 1: There are just things that are red flags, and this

674
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 1: is a gigantic red flag. We've had a lot of

675
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 1: red flags over the last four or five years, and

676
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 1: this is a fucking gigantic red flag. Now, does Silver

677
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,439
Speaker 1: have the balls to do this? If he did, I'll

678
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 1: say one thing, I do respect it if he did,

679
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 1: like it is the right move. So if he did

680
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 1: orchestrate this in a weird way. I'd say, congrats, it's

681
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 1: your finest moments as a commissioner. But if you're a

682
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 1: Mavericks fan, you'd have to just quit watching sports. Okay,

683
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:43,280
Speaker 1: this guy's from northern California. Uh ask me about the Niners.

684
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 1: Love your takes truly do? I'm from Chico home Aaron Rodgers, Well,

685
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 1: he doesn't live there now is where he grew up. Uh,

686
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 1: can't wait for the draft to see what we do

687
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 1: at eleven where if we trade for Garrett Crosby or Hendrickson,

688
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 1: we have hit on on our number one. Trade eleven

689
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 1: down for more picks, Try inside DJ Jones and get

690
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,439
Speaker 1: some more O line D line. Sign a veteran wide

691
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 1: receiver until BA gets back. Let's go massive offseason for

692
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers. There's just no way around it.

693
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:18,840
Speaker 1: They're about to pay their quarterback a huge amount of

694
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 1: money and he's in the world like you needn win

695
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 1: super bowls with Jalen Hurts. Jalen Hurts is never gonna

696
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 1: be you know, on a year in year out, basis

697
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 1: considered a top two or three player at his position.

698
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 1: But if you do a good job building around him,

699
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 1: you can win big. I've seen a lot of random

700
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:36,799
Speaker 1: like I saw Alex Smith with the forty nine ers

701
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:40,879
Speaker 1: when hardball got there, win games like you can win

702
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 1: a ton of games and win playoff games when you

703
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 1: don't have Joe Montana or Tom Brady or Peyton Manning

704
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 1: or Aaron Rodgers playing quarterback. And just because you have

705
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 1: those guys doesn't guarantee you anything. So building the team

706
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 1: and the way you build the team is like hit

707
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 1: on draft picks. That's why the Buccaneers have been productive.

708
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 1: You good? You sounded exhaust on the podcast. Yeah, I

709
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 1: mean I got this flu or something. I don't know.

710
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: You tell me. Do you view the Rams as Super

711
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 1: Bowl contender going into next year? I feel like they

712
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 1: are being disrespected by sportsbook and news outlets Projecting next year,

713
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 1: they are ranked eight to twelve by most. They were

714
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:23,320
Speaker 1: the only team to play Philly close. Assuming Stafford's contract

715
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 1: gets reworked, that's a big question. Alongside this much improved

716
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:31,399
Speaker 1: young defense and Snead and mcveigh's demonstrated ability to bring

717
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 1: in young talent, why would the Rams be a top

718
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 1: three NFL contender? Why wouldn't they be along with the

719
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 1: Lions and Eagles. I do think the Stafford things kind

720
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: of lingering. If Stafford is not their quarterback, that's a

721
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 1: pretty big deal. They just those two have a weird relationship.

722
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 1: It's like they've had so much success together, but it

723
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 1: never feels like they're both happy with each other. I

724
00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 1: don't know, so I go get that situation Red Black.

725
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 1: They a good quarterback play they're a contender. Now, their

726
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 1: defense was not as good throughout the season as it

727
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 1: was in the playoff game against the Eagles. So defense,

728
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 1: especially promo pass rush standpoint. Now you get Verse takes

729
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 1: another step, like what if versus one of the best

730
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 1: players in the league next year, and branden Fisk is

731
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 1: right there, like their defense could be really good. But offensively,

732
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:29,839
Speaker 1: Cooper's gonna be gone, which not that big an eal.

733
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,479
Speaker 1: They probably need to add a tight end, add another

734
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 1: wide receiver. I just think the Stafford thing is is

735
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 1: a pretty big question mark right now. But as long

736
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 1: as you got McVeigh and if Stafford's there, yeah, I

737
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 1: mean they're a double digit win team. And think in football,

738
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 1: you just make it the playoffs, like anything can happen.

739
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 1: Think about this, the Eagles were I don't know what

740
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 1: yard line they were on when Stafford got sacked, But

741
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 1: what was at the yard line? I mean, they've worked

742
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:04,839
Speaker 1: that far away from losing that game. That's the thing

743
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:09,879
Speaker 1: with football, you know, it's so cliche game inches details matter.

744
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 1: It's kind of true. You don't make a play or

745
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 1: not make a play. Some coaches just say that, like

746
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 1: who in this room is gonna make a play? Especially

747
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: at halftime? We just need someone to make a play, right,

748
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 1: This is the moment. Most people in most of our jobs, like,

749
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 1: you don't have to perform in like twenty minutes, Like

750
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 1: you can do it over the course of a week,

751
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 1: of a month or whatever. Like in football, it's like,

752
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 1: this is our moment. We get thirty more minutes. And

753
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 1: if you're a defensive player, you're only gonna get what

754
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 1: seven eight more series, So you're gonna get, say twenty

755
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 1: to twenty five more snaps. In one of those twenty

756
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 1: two snaps, can you make a play and can you

757
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,439
Speaker 1: make a difference? And Jalen Carter did in that game,

758
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 1: and it was the difference in the game. And then

759
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 1: the rest two games were a joke. They beat the

760
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 1: shit at them. What do the Colts need to do

761
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 1: to actually contend for a playoff spot and possibly win

762
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 1: the division. The division is winnable, and I feel like

763
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 1: our roster is pretty solid. We've got a top five

764
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 1: running back when healthy, the defense will be better with

765
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 1: an Arumo, and the wide receiver corps has improved. Obviously,

766
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 1: Richardson needs to prove that he's a franchise starter. I

767
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 1: do think that at the end of the year when

768
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 1: McAfee put out the tweet and then Shane Stiken said

769
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,359
Speaker 1: that it was true essentially like, yeah, guys show up late.

770
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 1: That tells you everything you need to know. I think

771
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 1: it is way easier, and any human with a brain

772
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:43,360
Speaker 1: has said this in life, let alone in football, to

773
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:47,720
Speaker 1: go from asshole to lighten up like it's much easier

774
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 1: to start like Parcels, like Belichick, like Mike Shanahan, and

775
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 1: then as you get older or as guys you know

776
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 1: age under you to loosen up on them. It is

777
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 1: very difficult to go from Lucy Goosey, everyone's friend player

778
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 1: coach to then be hard ass. So you're telling me

779
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 1: this guy, these players who had not been accomplishing Dick

780
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 1: were just kind of showing up whenever they wanted. I

781
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 1: can't imagine someone consistently showing up late to meetings with

782
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 1: high level coaches. You think that's happening for Andy Reid

783
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 1: or Sean McVay, Like, do you think that flies with

784
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 1: Mike Vrabel? Like you think you have flies with the Packers?

785
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 1: And listen, this is the pros, Like you just get

786
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 1: fined and listen. Every human being, I don't care who

787
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 1: you are, you might be the most punctual human alive.

788
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,319
Speaker 1: You're gonna have a day where something happens and maybe

789
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 1: you're ten, fifteen, five minutes late. Like I'm not acting

790
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 1: like you should never ever be late. Life happens, But

791
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 1: it was pretty clear that it was happening a lot.

792
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 1: And so we can talk a lot about the football team,

793
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:01,799
Speaker 1: you know, Anthony Richardson, how do they fix that? And

794
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 1: this is what McAfee put out, like, there's a culture

795
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:07,240
Speaker 1: problem in this building. Do you think people with Peyton

796
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 1: Manning in their heyday were just showing up late? No

797
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 1: fucking chance, none. So I don't know how you fix that.

798
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:22,959
Speaker 1: And this is Mike McDaniel and Shane Stikeen thing. Both

799
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 1: those guys both said at the end of the year

800
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:29,359
Speaker 1: tardiness was a problem. So How do those guys go

801
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 1: from like Lucy Goosey everyone's friend, you know, Mike McDaniel

802
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 1: wearing sweet watches and Gucci sunglasses to now be a

803
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 1: hard ass. You can't. I don't think it changes because

804
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,799
Speaker 1: that's who you are, you know, and part of being

805
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:50,880
Speaker 1: a tough guys like you're just tough and some guys,

806
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 1: you know, people make fun of Sean McDermott for being

807
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 1: kind of stiff and kind of old school, like, yeah,

808
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 1: he ain't allowing people show up late, Like that's not

809
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 1: tolerated in Buffalo. Not shocking that they kick everyone's ass

810
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 1: in the division. What are your thoughts on the Seahawks

811
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 1: quarterback situation. It looks like Gino will be extended this offseason,

812
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 1: but I love the idea of drafting a quarterback sooner

813
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 1: rather than later. Do you see the Seahawks making a

814
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 1: move at quarterback in the next year or two. I

815
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:36,840
Speaker 1: think it'd be pretty crazy to extend Geno Smith. I

816
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 1: haven't looked. I mean, how much money is he making?

817
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 1: Does he have to be extended because he makes so

818
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:46,760
Speaker 1: much money? They gave him three years, seventy five million dollars,

819
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 1: it's pretty good contract. So this is last year of

820
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 1: his contract. His cap hit is forty four million dollars. Man,

821
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 1: so he's not going to plan forty four million dollars.

822
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 1: You wouldn't think I'd have a hard time extending him.

823
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 1: I really would, and I know he's People like him.

824
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 1: He's a good get. He's thirty five years old. That's

825
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 1: pretty crazy. He's sneaky. Probably been on the Seahawks a

826
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 1: little longer than you think. Huh, career earnings. What year

827
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 1: to get to Seattle? Got there in twenty so this

828
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 1: is gonna be as there'd be a sixth season there.

829
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 1: Do you know what's making some money. I would not

830
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:34,840
Speaker 1: extend him. I would just play it out now. I

831
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 1: know it's hard to build your team when a guy's

832
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 1: cap hit is that big, but I would struggle with that.

833
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,799
Speaker 1: Now that football season is wrapped, I was wondering if

834
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 1: you could help explain the scouting process that happens after

835
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 1: the college season has ended. We hear every year that

836
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 1: ex player can improve their draft stock by having a

837
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 1: good Pro Day, Senior Bowl combined. Doesn't their season speak

838
00:48:56,680 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 1: for itself. I remember DJ talking about Jalen Milrow saying

839
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:03,359
Speaker 1: he could improve his draft stock by having a good

840
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl. He just played an entire season at one

841
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 1: of the best programs in the country. This is just

842
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:12,879
Speaker 1: one of many examples. Do scouts really take Pro Day,

843
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl combine into account. Okay, let's factor in some things.

844
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 1: Jalen Milroe is a bad example because he's played for

845
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 1: Nick Saban and Kaylen Duboor, so it's like, well, those guys, Like,

846
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 1: if you're not accurate for those guys, it's a red flag.

847
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 1: I think what he's meaning is like, if he goes

848
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 1: to the Senior Bowl and he looks accurate, people might

849
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:38,319
Speaker 1: get excited about him, but it's not gonna make or

850
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 1: break anything, because, like you said, he's been playing it's

851
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:43,320
Speaker 1: such a good program. So I would tend to disagree.

852
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 1: He's just a polarizing player because his good's so good

853
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 1: and his bad can look so bad, and then you

854
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 1: see some of the highlights of the Senior Bowl. He

855
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 1: just he's just not an accurate enough passer. I think

856
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 1: when you hear guys it's Senior Bowl, it's like if

857
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 1: you play guard, it's like, I think this guy could

858
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,799
Speaker 1: be like a second round guard, but he plays at

859
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:07,880
Speaker 1: a program where they're not playing it you play in

860
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 1: the Big twelve. So I'll just pick a team. We'll

861
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 1: say you play it like Texas Tech, but throughout the

862
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:15,799
Speaker 1: last couple of years you've been a starter there. You

863
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,840
Speaker 1: don't go up against NFL defensive lineman. So it's like,

864
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 1: I really like this guy, but how can I take

865
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 1: him on the second round? And I haven't seen him

866
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 1: play anybody. Well, he goes to the Senior Bowl. Every

867
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 1: day in practice, he's going up against first, second, and

868
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 1: third rounders. So if he looks good, you're like, damn,

869
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 1: this guy's a player, or vice versa, you're like, God,

870
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 1: this guy's a little overmatch scares me. So I think

871
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:39,360
Speaker 1: it's a lot of stuff like that. It's like a

872
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:43,400
Speaker 1: guy goes and you see him against good competition. But

873
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 1: like Dylan Gabriel, right, he's been a starter for like

874
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 1: six years UCF Oklahoma. What's he gonna do at the

875
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl. It's gonna help or her to stock throwing

876
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 1: the ball to guys that he's never thrown to it

877
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 1: just it can't. I think it's more for the line

878
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:05,400
Speaker 1: of scrimmage. Depending on the programs you play at wide

879
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:07,839
Speaker 1: receivers and dbs, you get to you know, show your

880
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 1: speed in front of guys. It's just it's a small percentage.

881
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 1: I think of the combine, you know, the forty time.

882
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:18,319
Speaker 1: We can act like it doesn't matter. I'm sorry, it

883
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 1: just does. Right that there are certain things, you know.

884
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:27,320
Speaker 1: The draft is a market it's a marketplace. It's like

885
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 1: an economic exercise. Right, There's reasons certain homes sell for

886
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:35,360
Speaker 1: more than others on the same block. More square footage,

887
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 1: an extra room, bigger kitchen, extra bathroom, two to three

888
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:44,839
Speaker 1: car garage. Well, if you go to the combine and

889
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:48,359
Speaker 1: you run fast, if you're a corner and you run

890
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 1: a four to four to zero, that helps you. I'm sorry,

891
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 1: it just does. Just like if you go to the

892
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 1: combine and you're a corner and you run a four,

893
00:51:56,800 --> 00:52:00,400
Speaker 1: five eight, that hurts you. Doesn't mean you're not gonna

894
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 1: be a good player, but it does determine your draft stock.

895
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 1: Draft stock is different than how you're gonna be as

896
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 1: a player. It's just what price do I have to

897
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 1: pay to get you? So if I go to the

898
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl, I didn't watch that much Old Miss this year,

899
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:21,399
Speaker 1: and the one game I watched was the Florida game

900
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:24,799
Speaker 1: and Jackson Dart just I mean fell apart. I mean,

901
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 1: he couldn't have played any worse. He looked like Sam

902
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:30,239
Speaker 1: Darnold against the Lions. It was like, this is he's

903
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 1: thrown awful picks. So my exposure to him was like,

904
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 1: I don't know if this guy's good enough. And then

905
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 1: all I hear is like, well, if you really watch

906
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 1: his body of work, this year's way better. It's like, yeah,

907
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 1: I didn't do that. Then he goes to the Senior

908
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 1: Bowl and he looks good and people go, he's really

909
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:47,839
Speaker 1: helped himself because I think people go in it's like, god,

910
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 1: he's pretty accurate. God he's much bigger than I thought.

911
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 1: The other thing is, you know, what you do in

912
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 1: college might not be what that team wants you to do.

913
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 1: So if I'm the if I'm the Raiders, and if

914
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 1: I'm Chip Kelly, maybe I go what Jackson Dart does

915
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:11,840
Speaker 1: or what you know player X does is something that

916
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:14,879
Speaker 1: I think works for us. So people like, ah, why

917
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:16,879
Speaker 1: do you draft this guy that high? And they'd said

918
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:20,279
Speaker 1: that with Jalen Hurts. So to me, draft stock is

919
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:24,400
Speaker 1: all relative to what you're willing to pay for individual teams,

920
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 1: and everyone's price is different It's why draft boards all

921
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 1: look different. We go to ten different teams, you know,

922
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 1: beside a couple players, the draft boards are gonna be

923
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 1: all over the map. But your interviews, your medical testing,

924
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 1: your physical testing does build what your price is. Do

925
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 1: I gotta draft you fifteenth or can I get you

926
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 1: a seventy fifth? Right? So like when you're big, when

927
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 1: you're fast, I mean that doesn't hurt stocks. Now, that

928
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that you're gonna be a good player because

929
00:53:56,920 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 1: just because you run fast, if you play slow, that's

930
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:04,239
Speaker 1: gonna be a problem. But we have seen guys, countless

931
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 1: guys run really fast and really help their stock. Look

932
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 1: at what's his name from the packers, Watson when he

933
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 1: was at North Dakota State. The other thing is when

934
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:16,280
Speaker 1: you're not at of Alabama or House State or Georgia,

935
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:19,839
Speaker 1: there are just a lot more variables, like who are

936
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 1: you actually playing, what's the competition like on a weekly basis,

937
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 1: it's just not the same. So when you're playing at Texas,

938
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 1: when you're playing at Michigan, when you're a planing at

939
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 1: Ohio State, it actually has a lot of similarities to

940
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 1: the NFL. But you might be a guy that's a

941
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 1: potential first round pick from Oregon State or North Dakota State.

942
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 1: So judging you at those benchmarks, Okay, he has similar

943
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 1: size to seven guys that are pro bowlers at his

944
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 1: position in the NFL. Like that matters. And it's why

945
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 1: it's very complicated. It's a scientific exercise in terms of

946
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 1: like there's no way we can do the measurables. We

947
00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 1: can do the speed, we can do the production, we

948
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 1: can do the psychological testing. You're still dealing with the

949
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:06,880
Speaker 1: human being. So finding out the other thing at the

950
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 1: combine and the Senior Bowl, and like once we get

951
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:13,959
Speaker 1: in the free agency and you start bringing prospects into

952
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:15,880
Speaker 1: the building, is you kind of want to get a

953
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:17,840
Speaker 1: feel for the people. So it's like, do we like

954
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:21,320
Speaker 1: this guy is the type guy we want in our building?

955
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 1: Will he vibe? What does our position coach think? You

956
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 1: just spend half the day with him, What does our

957
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 1: coordinators say they just went to lunch together. So you

958
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 1: got to get a feel for the people. Jim Washburn,

959
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:33,319
Speaker 1: you say this to me all the time. It's so

960
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 1: easy for you guys to say, like, hey man, I

961
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 1: know this guy's a shithead, but he can sure rush

962
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:42,240
Speaker 1: the passer. And then we draft him the second round

963
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:43,720
Speaker 1: and then you don't have to deal with him anymore.

964
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:46,319
Speaker 1: I deal with him every day. I sit in that

965
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 1: meeting room for six months with the guy at practice

966
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:52,840
Speaker 1: every day, and it's the head coaching on my ass

967
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:56,799
Speaker 1: to stay on him. And it's right. So it's like

968
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 1: you got to take care of your position, coaches, there's

969
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:00,759
Speaker 1: a balance, like you got to take some flyers, but

970
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 1: the personality stuff is so huge, and I do believe beside,

971
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 1: like I'm with you on Jalen Milroe, like we've kind

972
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 1: of seen it, Like I would not draft Jalen Milroll.

973
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I would not. He's not accurate enough passer.

974
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 1: But there are a lot of players who are NFL

975
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 1: caliber and could be NFL starters that just don't play

976
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 1: at Alabama, Georgia and Ohio State and their schedule is

977
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:27,399
Speaker 1: just very hit or miss. It's why sometimes smaller school guys,

978
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:29,920
Speaker 1: like if you played a MAX school in like that

979
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:32,479
Speaker 1: one game you played against Ohio State or Notre Dame,

980
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 1: like it's almost like you got to put eighty percent

981
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:37,879
Speaker 1: of your evaluation in that one game. Well, what if

982
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:40,839
Speaker 1: the guy tweaked his ankle in practice? So it's like, well,

983
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 1: actually I still kind of like him, and he didn't

984
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:45,400
Speaker 1: play that well, but he was injured. Like there's so

985
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 1: many different variables that it's hard to figure out. I'll

986
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 1: never forget my last year in the NFL, ziggiansa from BYU.

987
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 1: He ended up getting drafted number five overall to Detroit.

988
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:02,359
Speaker 1: He had walked on on to the BYU football team,

989
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 1: and it's I think his first year he only played

990
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 1: like special teams, and his his last year in the program,

991
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:11,799
Speaker 1: he played defense a little bit and that was productive.

992
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 1: Went to the Senior Bowl. The game, he was by

993
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 1: far their best player. I remember Brett Diach going. If

994
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:19,439
Speaker 1: you watched tape on Zick Janson, he was the best

995
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:23,479
Speaker 1: player on the field, and he was and he shot

996
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 1: up like a rocket ship and he went fin and

997
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 1: he was legitimately a top you know ten talent. But

998
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 1: like it was hard to figure out, like why wasn't

999
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 1: he playing, what's his background, what's his deal? And then

1000
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:38,920
Speaker 1: he ended up I think having injuries in the pros.

1001
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 1: But it's just a difficult situation factoring in all these variables, right,

1002
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 1: it's pretty easy to go trying to think of a

1003
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 1: good player like Travis Hunter, like, yeah, his skill set's

1004
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 1: gonna translate Abdual Carter. You know some of these offensive

1005
00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 1: linemen like yeah, there Now are they gonna be good enough?

1006
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 1: Work ethic? Are they tough enough? Like? Only time will tell.

1007
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 1: But most players, like there's a lot of there's holes.

1008
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 1: You got to figure out a way. You gotta get

1009
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 1: them with your coaches, you gotta really evaluate the tape.

1010
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 1: I mean, the Chiefs spent spend months watching tape as

1011
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 1: a group together. It's a huge thing. They do watch

1012
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 1: tape as a group together. Anyone that follows, you know,

1013
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 1: the Colts. Over the years they put out videos. They

1014
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 1: watch a ton of tape together, and you gotta let

1015
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 1: that talk to you. But you also there's more to

1016
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 1: it than just you know, you gotta factor it all

1017
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 1: in and then make the best educated guests. You know,

1018
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 1: you can't appreciate everyone listening, battling through with me and

1019
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 1: I will talk to you guys next week. Audios. The

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