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Speaker 1: Welcome to Wired to Hunt's rut Fresh Radio, bringing you

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Speaker 1: the latest reports from the Whitetail Woods, presented by First Light,

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Speaker 1: Case Smith and Tyler Jones.

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Speaker 2: This is Reughfresh Radio. I'm your host k C. Smith.

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Speaker 2: And the rut is over? Or is it?

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Speaker 3: Did you know that there are still a lot of

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Speaker 3: running action. The bucks are still in the mood if

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Speaker 3: they can find the right dough. Let's see if they're

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Speaker 3: in your state. This is Retfresh.

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Speaker 2: Let's go.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to Retfresh Radio. Y'all, I am your host k C.

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Speaker 2: Smith. We are brought to you first Light gear.

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Speaker 3: Tyler Jones is here and in attendance via telecommunication not telekinesis.

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Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know, he might be capable of that.

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Speaker 2: Mark Kenyon, what's up? Man?

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Speaker 4: It's good to be here. Good to be here. And

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Speaker 4: when you say telekinesis the first thing that comes on

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Speaker 4: mind's tenacious d Now retrospect you probably do you guys?

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Speaker 4: Do you have you ever listened to Nation?

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Speaker 2: I hate to admit it, but I have.

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Speaker 4: There's a good song and about telekinesis. So I don't know.

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Speaker 4: That's that's a fun off topic.

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Speaker 3: The one that for me was a Pokemon. There was

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Speaker 3: a Pokemon that was like a telekinetic.

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Speaker 4: Do you remember that, Mark, I was not a Pokemon player.

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Speaker 2: I can't believe it.

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Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, you're you're the nerd today.

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Speaker 2: I mean, here's the deal.

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Speaker 4: I love this, this is great. Let's go down this

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Speaker 4: path further.

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Speaker 2: Pokemon, star Wars. What else?

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Speaker 4: Man, Lord of the Rings?

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Speaker 3: I can we can go on Man.

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Speaker 2: Star Trek. I got some Star Trek game. He's a

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Speaker 2: lot like Sheldon. Yeah, random that, Like.

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Speaker 4: Are we talking about deer today?

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Speaker 2: Though?

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Speaker 4: We're talking about deer right, Well that's in.

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Speaker 3: The interviews just start. It's just just just for the

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Speaker 3: last But no, this is Reference radio where we talk

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Speaker 3: about the rut and all things fresh, and it's on

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Speaker 3: the radio.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 3: So we've been doing a lot of deer hunting, Mark,

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Speaker 3: You've been doing some deer hunting in the coldest place

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Speaker 3: it is snowy and like wind chill sub ten degrees

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I was actually just out there this morning,

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Speaker 4: and my fingers are splitting. I don't know if you

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Speaker 4: long in that cold, dry weather, my fingers start to

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Speaker 4: actually split. So I got I just put band aids

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Speaker 4: and like neo sporn on my fingertips because they're bleeding.

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Speaker 4: And yeah, it is chilly.

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Speaker 2: So were you hunting this morning?

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Speaker 4: I was not hunting this morning.

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Speaker 3: I've been hunting a bunch YEP.

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Speaker 4: I was hunting last night. I was out the day before,

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Speaker 4: So the last you know, seven to nine days, I've

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Speaker 4: Well, I think what I have seen is the beginning

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Speaker 4: So, I mean, like I said, I've been out in

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Speaker 2: Your listeners are used to that. How did the deer know?

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Speaker 2: I'm just how did the deer know this?

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Speaker 2: Why did deer? Howhy are you able to predict fronts?

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Speaker 4: My best guess, I think it has to be related

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Speaker 4: But I don't know, Well, dyll isn't I'm no, I

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Speaker 4: So I wonder if it's something like that.

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Speaker 3: We might need to talk to some some body else

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Speaker 4: It would it would make sense like from a you know,

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Speaker 3: They don't have as many microplastics in their system. I

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Speaker 3: don't think it helps you out, that's true, Yeah, Mark,

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Speaker 3: it would seem as if you did some good predicting

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Speaker 3: But the listeners need to tune in to the actual

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Speaker 3: Wired to Hunt show that launches on Thursday of this

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I've got an exciting story to share tomorrow on

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Speaker 4: it's good. It'll be good.

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Speaker 2: It'll be good, sweet awesome. Tyler.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of recording, who have we got interviews with this

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Speaker 2: Well, we've got Hunter Lindsay out in Kentucky. You know,

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Speaker 2: we actually have two hunters. There's lots of hunters on

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Speaker 2: this podcast. But Hunter Dickens one of our our acquaintances,

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Speaker 3: Sweet man, let's get this thing going. I'm on the

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Speaker 3: phone with Hunter Lindsay. He's been doing some hunting in Kentucky.

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Speaker 3: And if you ever watched a viral clip of an

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Speaker 4: Hunter.

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Speaker 2: What's going on, man.

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Speaker 7: Not much, not much, just doing some chores after I've

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Speaker 2: Oh man, you let the cat out of the bag?

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Speaker 2: You killed a big buck?

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Speaker 5: I did.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Way to go, man. What was that deer doing.

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Speaker 3: This deer is out checking for dose.

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Speaker 3: And that's still that's pretty much late November and that's

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it seems like the doe uh in that in

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Speaker 4: It seemed like that was what he was doing.

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Speaker 7: He had finally gotten off that first dough and heat

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Speaker 3: That's cool, man. Do you think that as you look

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Speaker 7: I think that they're still gonna be looking for some

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Speaker 2: Got you, So, what kind of food would you be

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Speaker 4: Probably some high nutritious greens.

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Speaker 7: If there's still some acorns around, then you know, if

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Speaker 7: you know, some acorns that are left. But those ag

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Speaker 2: Is y'all's winter wheat in pretty good shape right now.

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Speaker 7: It's probably about you know, two or three inch, which

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Speaker 2: Get some of that cold weather that's coming in across

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, No, it's been in the thirties just about

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Speaker 2: Yeah, has that? Do you think the daylight movement is

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Speaker 4: That's hard to say.

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Speaker 7: I think that's gonna be situational, but I think that

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Speaker 7: this colder weather will definitely help with that more than

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Speaker 7: than note. You know, we've kind of had some hotter

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Speaker 4: I think, uh, this colder weather at the end.

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Speaker 7: Of November will definitely start, you know, and the rut

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Speaker 7: starting subside a little bit. I think that that's definitely gonna.

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Speaker 4: Help with some daylight movement on some food sourses. That's cool.

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Speaker 2: What do you think about that moon? It's just real

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 7: I've seen that moon phase, you know, helps movement some,

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Speaker 4: I don't really pay attention to it too much.

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Speaker 2: Sweet Well, in the next week, if you had to

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Speaker 2: put a number one to ten on buck movement, what

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Speaker 2: you're predicted Buck movement is, what would you what would

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Speaker 4: I'd probably say four or five.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, so you think that's a downgrade from

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Speaker 7: Yes, I think that they're going to start uh yeah,

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Speaker 7: I think that they're going to be not searching for

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Speaker 7: But you know, it's all situational, and you could be

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Speaker 5: You know, there's a.

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Speaker 7: Couple more hot doughs than than not and they could

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Speaker 7: just be going crazy. But at this point, I think

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Speaker 2: Cool man.

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Speaker 3: Well, thanks for all the great information, dude, and congrats

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Speaker 3: on all the big bucks have been hitting the ground.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate it. It's been a good year.

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Speaker 7: It was some ups and downs, but it definitely turned

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Speaker 4: I thought it was going to be.

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Speaker 2: All right. I've got a guy that people are familiar

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Speaker 2: and he is a big contributor on our YouTube channel,

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Speaker 2: the Elements YouTube channel shooting Bucks. I mean, at least

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Speaker 2: good for you man. Actually, they're in Texas where you've

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Speaker 2: been hunting. You had some success the other night, correct, I.

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Speaker 4: Did I did.

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Speaker 8: Texas seems would be the only place I can find

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Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know about that. But you you are

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Speaker 2: doing well there. Man. You've have you shot? How many

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Speaker 4: The three Texas bucks?

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Speaker 2: Man? You got it? Dialed?

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Speaker 8: Man, I've been blessed, Yes, I have. It's it's been

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Speaker 2: Now. The Bucky shot through the night was just a

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Speaker 8: That deer was fresh out of the bed really, so, yes, yes,

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Speaker 4: So I just I got as close to his bed

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Speaker 2: Really, what was this? What was what was the weather

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Speaker 8: It was gosh that day it would have been we

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Speaker 2: Just that's probably what it was that evening. Gotcha? Did

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Speaker 8: Yesky, Yeah, it was a lot warmer than I would

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Speaker 2: Okay, So you think that has to do with the

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Speaker 4: Ye partially.

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Speaker 8: I think the moon has some contributions to that as well,

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Speaker 8: because I've been seeing a lot of midday movement kind

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Speaker 8: of that twelve to one o'clock hour has been really

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Speaker 8: peeking for me on cameras, which I know you can't

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Speaker 8: So I've been seeing a lot that twelve to one,

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Speaker 4: Got as close to his bed as I thought.

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Speaker 8: I knew the general area of where that buck was,

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Speaker 2: So talk about the moon, what stage it was in

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Speaker 4: That was I believe.

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Speaker 8: Three three days ago, so we would have been right

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Speaker 2: Gotcha. So you think when he got out of his bed,

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Speaker 8: Yes, that was it. And I had set up on

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Speaker 2: Gotcha.

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Speaker 8: And so he was just taking more of the lackadaisical

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Speaker 2: Right, So in the next week or so, would you

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Speaker 2: What are you going to do different in tactic? Tactically, see,

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Speaker 2: I would go sit.

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Speaker 3: I would go sit.

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Speaker 4: Probably forty yards off the edge of food.

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Speaker 2: I would be really.

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Speaker 8: Focusing back on food sources for the next couple of

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Speaker 8: if you've got food plots, or if you're hunting standing

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Speaker 2: Okay, So in the next week or so, if you

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Speaker 4: Probably seven?

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Speaker 8: All right, dude, I like it because the bucks almost

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Speaker 8: they're gonna be for you know, a week or two.

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Speaker 8: They're gonna be there, and it's it's if you've got

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Speaker 8: I mean, their bodies are deprived of nutrients right now

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Speaker 4: To build that back up.

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Speaker 8: And especially if you've got good food source, you're also

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Speaker 8: going to have doze in year lands that are going

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Speaker 4: Couple of weeks.

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Speaker 8: I've I've got some properties that don't heat up till December.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, Well that's good news, man. I appreciate the report,

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Speaker 2: and uh, good job there in Texas, dude. If you know,

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Speaker 2: They will be on as soon as we can get

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Speaker 2: them edited. We're all out hunting like crazy right now,

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Speaker 2: but they're we're working on them. So one hundred thanks

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Speaker 2: for the report, man, I'll be talking to you soon.

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Speaker 4: Yes, sir, it's a blast.

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Speaker 2: I've got Barrett Nigas here, he's with long time bow

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Speaker 2: hunting out in Alabama doing some deer hunting. Nextually, you're

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Speaker 2: heading to deer hunt right now, right.

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Speaker 4: That is correct?

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Speaker 5: Awesome, I got a cold front coming.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, that's what I'm talking about. That's a there's

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Speaker 2: that's that's us. So, uh, your your was it your

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was my brother.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he shot one over the Thanksgiving break here a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's all right, man as a good buck to

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Speaker 2: what h what was he keen inn on right there?

447
00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:02,840
Speaker 5: Well, he was really hunting, hunting in between I guess

448
00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:06,560
Speaker 5: you call I think this deer's two bedding areas. Uh,

449
00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:10,199
Speaker 5: he'd showed up a few days earlier, and it was

450
00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:14,480
Speaker 5: really just like some five foot tall you know, i'd

451
00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:18,320
Speaker 5: call it just some you know, it's like a clear cut,

452
00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:22,240
Speaker 5: but really just five foot tall planted pines and newly

453
00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:26,920
Speaker 5: planted pine slash clear cut where that there could kind

454
00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:30,399
Speaker 5: of move pretty safely between two bedding areas and we

455
00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:34,280
Speaker 5: get there's like a hardwood hardwood flat there that we've

456
00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:38,920
Speaker 5: hunted for years, and he was moving in between those

457
00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,520
Speaker 5: two areas. I think you guys would call it a

458
00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,480
Speaker 5: d M A a deer movement area that we've hunted

459
00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:49,320
Speaker 5: for years there and kind of some historical movement. And H.

460
00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:54,120
Speaker 5: He had shown up two days before. And so this

461
00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,520
Speaker 5: time of the year in Alabama, they're on a pretty

462
00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,360
Speaker 5: good pattern. We're in that pre rut stage. We're still

463
00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:00,919
Speaker 5: a month and a half from our rut. So he

464
00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:05,280
Speaker 5: had showed up two days prior, and you know, he

465
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,800
Speaker 5: was kind of on that pattern moving in between two

466
00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:09,399
Speaker 5: we think two bedding areas.

467
00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:13,120
Speaker 2: So when you say betting areas, is this like would

468
00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,320
Speaker 2: you make these more like a doe betting area or

469
00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:16,919
Speaker 2: a betting area that he's inhabiting.

470
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,359
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I would say it'd be buck betting. I

471
00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:25,160
Speaker 5: mean it's like five foot tall weedy, you know.

472
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Speaker 1: Three.

473
00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,760
Speaker 5: I think they planted the pines there three years ago, two,

474
00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,879
Speaker 5: three years ago, So those pines are getting up. I

475
00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,240
Speaker 5: mean you can't hunt in them, you know. And those

476
00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,400
Speaker 5: deer as soon as they walk into it, they disappear,

477
00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:39,200
Speaker 5: you know. So you'd say a four year old buck

478
00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,960
Speaker 5: like that, I mean he loves it, you know, as

479
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,840
Speaker 5: soon as he walks into it, he disappears, you know,

480
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,560
Speaker 5: kind of like those mature East Texas bucks. Same thing

481
00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:51,800
Speaker 5: with those mature Alabama bucks. Man, as soon as they

482
00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:55,200
Speaker 5: can walk into some tall grass RP type stuff like that,

483
00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,960
Speaker 5: I mean, that's like heaven for them. They walk into it,

484
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:03,439
Speaker 5: they disappear. They can lay in it all day, you know,

485
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,879
Speaker 5: get up at night, feed on acorns or whatever that

486
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 5: that nearest food. Of course, you can you can bait

487
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 5: in Alabama too, now, so the nearest corn pile on

488
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,400
Speaker 5: the neighbors or whatever it might be.

489
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 2: So what you what would you uh, would you call

490
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:20,160
Speaker 2: it pre rut.

491
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 5: Where you're at, I would say it's not quite pre rut,

492
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 5: uh the deer shed velvet beginning of October here. But

493
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:32,400
Speaker 5: I see that like just that testosterone is picking up,

494
00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 5: and so I feel like they get on this feeding

495
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 5: pattern in like October November, but come December, it's like

496
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 5: they know like it's coming, and it's like this pre

497
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 5: rut phase is like they're on a They're certainly on

498
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 5: a bed to feed pattern right now. I've seen it

499
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 5: with a couple other Bucks, and that's that's why I'm

500
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 5: going hunting now. It's because I think there's a few

501
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 5: other Bucks that might be on that bed to feed

502
00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:03,359
Speaker 5: pattern right now also. But there's certainly like we're starting

503
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,679
Speaker 5: to see some rub lines pop up. You know. I

504
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 5: saw a group of bachelor Bucks, like some young bucks,

505
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 5: they were just two year old, but they were locked up,

506
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:15,400
Speaker 5: you know, getting excited, especially with these cold fronts, are

507
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:17,439
Speaker 5: like locked up and they were pushing around for like

508
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 5: five minutes.

509
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. So so in the next week, do you think

510
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 2: that that's gonna continue to ramp up with this cold

511
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 2: front coming in? Is it gonna Is that gonna that

512
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,439
Speaker 2: kind of rutty type movement gonna continue to increase or

513
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 2: is it gonna be about the same next week in

514
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,680
Speaker 2: your opinion, Yeah.

515
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 5: I think it continues to increase all the way through

516
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 5: the month of December.

517
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 2: Like yeah, so then December.

518
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 5: Will start popping up. Yeah, those scraps will start popping

519
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:44,359
Speaker 5: up and stuff like that.

520
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:46,679
Speaker 2: Yeah. And the and the rut for you is win.

521
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 5: Uh, the rut will be like the peak of the

522
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 5: rut in Central Alabama will be mid January.

523
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, cool man. Well there's still some time left

524
00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 2: to get on some of that pre rut movement. You know.

525
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 2: The best thing about that is deer still pretty patternable

526
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 2: typically during that and but they can be a little more.

527
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,639
Speaker 2: They can show up in daylight more so. It's a

528
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,639
Speaker 2: it's probably a pretty good time of year. Tell your

529
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 2: brother congrats. I got one more question for you. On

530
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 2: a scale of one to ten, what do you think

531
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 2: buck movement is going to be like in Central Alabama

532
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:20,400
Speaker 2: in the next week.

533
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 4: I would say like an eight.

534
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 5: We just came off the full moon and we have this, Man,

535
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 5: this is like one of the best cold fronts I

536
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 5: think we've had all year. We've had some warm weather,

537
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 5: so we have this cold front coming, and I think

538
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,879
Speaker 5: we have a decent moon and a cold front coming,

539
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 5: so I think maybe you can get on a good

540
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,920
Speaker 5: buck this next the next few days here.

541
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:49,439
Speaker 2: So it's awesome though, awesome, I'm hoping. Yeah, well, I

542
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 2: hope that it goes well for you too, man, And

543
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 2: appreciate the time we'll be talking to you. I'm sure

544
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,440
Speaker 2: at some point soon, Man, maybe next year or maybe

545
00:25:56,520 --> 00:26:00,640
Speaker 2: later this year when the rut's kicking. But appreciate the report. Bett. Yeah,

546
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 2: thank you, Toll on the phone. Now, I've got my

547
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 2: friend Scott from Arkansas, and Scott has hunted. What your

548
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 2: whole life in Arkansas? Pretty much? Right? Yeah? I have.

549
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 4: That's about the only place I've hunted.

550
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know quite a bit. You're as qualified

551
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,440
Speaker 2: as anybody. Probably talk about it. I know you're gonna

552
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,439
Speaker 2: be humble and say no, no, you know, y'all do

553
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:23,399
Speaker 2: this and y'all do that. Whatever. But Scott, what have

554
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,960
Speaker 2: you been seeing in the deer woods lately? Uh?

555
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:28,639
Speaker 9: We're you know, if you're in it, you're in it,

556
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 9: I think. But I think right now, I think Bucks

557
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 9: are definitely on the dose. I think we're past the

558
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 9: pre rut and we're into the rut. You know, Arkansas

559
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 9: is a funny state just because of water levels and

560
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 9: the different terrain that we have. So I think really

561
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 9: on X has done a great job at connecting the

562
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,160
Speaker 9: dots as far as giving you a good rut calendar,

563
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:51,360
Speaker 9: and I think they're pretty accurate.

564
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:52,920
Speaker 2: I really do. So far.

565
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 9: I've just been really impressed with how that connects with

566
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:57,200
Speaker 9: what's really going on the ground.

567
00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,400
Speaker 2: Sure, so you think, do you think the bucks are

568
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 2: in what a lot of people consider the lockdown stage

569
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 2: right now? They are.

570
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 9: I believe they are, And I think that's one of

571
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 9: the reasons why that if if you're not in it,

572
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 9: you need to move because they're not going far and

573
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,880
Speaker 9: they're not roaming around like they were, you know, earlier

574
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,199
Speaker 9: in the month. So yeah, I think they're definitely in

575
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 9: the lockdown.

576
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

577
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 3: So a lot of times for these southern states, you know,

578
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:24,400
Speaker 3: acorn crop is a big deal.

579
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,639
Speaker 2: Is that is there a lot of acorns right now?

580
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 2: Or what does that look like?

581
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,879
Speaker 9: Man, we've seen in our area and the place that

582
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 9: I hunt. Now it's going to be different, you know,

583
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 9: because Arkansas is just so varied in terrain and topography.

584
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,880
Speaker 9: But in the area that I hunt in particular, there

585
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 9: is far fewer acorns than I've seen in the last

586
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 9: several years, and I think that has to do with water.

587
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:48,399
Speaker 9: I just think that there's been a little bit of

588
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 9: water shock among some of the hardwood trees around here,

589
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 9: which for us is actually better. It's just better it

590
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 9: keeps that it gives us an at least the opportunity

591
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,680
Speaker 9: to look for feed trees and look for a little

592
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:04,160
Speaker 9: bit more condensed movement and patterns.

593
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 4: That that helps us that way.

594
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 9: The deer that they can they've got some places they've

595
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 9: got to go if they're going to get into those acorns.

596
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:14,119
Speaker 2: Is there an acorn that they prefer in your.

597
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 9: Opinion, yeah, I think you know, obviously white oaks are

598
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 9: are you know, I preferred acorn, but but water oaks

599
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,439
Speaker 9: I have found in my area. They love water oaks,

600
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 9: and I kind of key in on those. But you know,

601
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,879
Speaker 9: as the season goes on, red oaks produce here a

602
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 9: lot later in the year, and and a red oak

603
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:36,679
Speaker 9: tree is usually your friend, especially as the rut advances,

604
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 9: because you got to think about it, the buck is

605
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 9: pursuing the dough, the dose still doing dough things. And

606
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 9: so if you find the dose and you you find

607
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 9: the food source, because the dose are still going to

608
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 9: the food source, you're gonna find the bucks, and you're.

609
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 4: Going to be in the in the mix for the rut.

610
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 9: So especially late rut, you know those red oak trees

611
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 9: that are kind of in the open, that that that

612
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 9: big old buck wouldn't go near any other time of

613
00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 9: year chasing, you know, a younger that's coming to estras late,

614
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 9: you got a good chance of killing a big deer

615
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 9: that way.

616
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 2: That's kind of you know that that's a good point.

617
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 2: I think about this a lot, and I have in

618
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 2: the past, but especially on like private land, man, if

619
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 2: you can hunt, if you can hunt food sources like

620
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 2: agricultural food sources, a lot of times, man, where the

621
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 2: deer aren't necessarily pressured off like they might be on

622
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 2: something that's closer to public or more accessible to a

623
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 2: public that it's almost like you can get away with

624
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 2: hunting deer on ag and close to egg from like

625
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 2: September to January. In a lot of cases. You know,

626
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 2: it's like you really almost if you had good access,

627
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 2: you wouldn't even need to move your set, you know.

628
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 9: No, I completely agree, And I think that's one of

629
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 9: the things about the big Woods when when you hunt

630
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 9: the big woods, and I define big woods as tracks

631
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 9: of land that are not influenced by agriculture necessarily, So

632
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 9: when you hunt those big woods, I mean, the deer

633
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 9: are much more dispersed. It's a much more complex thing.

634
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 9: I think predictability as far as like where they're coming

635
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 9: from their travel routes. You know, you don't have that

636
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 9: in the big Woods, So the deer could show up

637
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 9: in a place that you didn't expect it, which affects,

638
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 9: you know, shot placement, It effects you know, everything about

639
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 9: you because it's kind of a surprise. Whereas when you

640
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 9: have agriculture and you've got you know ingress negress routes

641
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 9: and you've got a good way in, you know, you're

642
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 9: not having to you know, bump around.

643
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 4: And try to figure out where you ought to set up.

644
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 9: I think agriculture gives you a distinct advantage in that.

645
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 9: But I think when you kill a deer in the

646
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 9: big Woods and you pursued it and you found it

647
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 9: in that environment that it was in, I just feel

648
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 9: like there's just like a piece of accomplishment in that

649
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 9: you know, I think there's a piece that just says,

650
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 9: you know, I didn't have the advantage of those other things.

651
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 9: I'm not saying I disagree with emer it's unethical or

652
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 9: nothing like that. I'm just saying, challenge wise, it's kind

653
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 9: of like the person that says, you know, I want

654
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 9: to shoot, you know, a traditional bow as opposed to

655
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 9: a compound bow. I think there's definitely there's a learning curve,

656
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 9: and it's more difficult I think in the big woods.

657
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 2: Yep.

658
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 3: So since it's already difficult in big woods, we got

659
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 3: a full moon right now. For the next week, it's

660
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 3: going to be you know, kind of waning, but it's

661
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 3: still going to be pretty big.

662
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 2: And you know, you said it's kind of the lockdown thing.

663
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 3: So if you had to kind of predict what you

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Speaker 3: thought the buck movement would be like over the next

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Speaker 3: week on a scale of one to ten, what would

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Speaker 3: you think it would be.

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Speaker 9: I don't think the moon when they're in the lockdown

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Speaker 9: affects them as much as it does maybe other times

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Speaker 9: of the year, because they're going to be doing what

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Speaker 9: they're going to be doing at that particular time. And again,

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Speaker 9: I just look at the rut this way at this

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Speaker 9: phase of it, and the beauty of Arkansas that I've

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Speaker 9: always loved about this state and why I loved up

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Speaker 9: to hunt here, which obviously I live here, is that

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Speaker 9: when one particular area begins to cool off, you can move.

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Speaker 9: Sometimes it's twenty miles, You go twenty miles and you've

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Speaker 9: got a completely different time frame for the rut. And

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Speaker 9: so it's kind of like chasing the migration of ducks.

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Speaker 9: You know, you're you're you're following that that rut down,

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Speaker 9: and I think the obviously they're going to move a

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Speaker 9: lot at not but they're nocturnal anyway. I mean, it's

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Speaker 9: I always laugh when people say, you know that they're

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Speaker 9: just going to go nocturnal. They are nocturnal, their entire

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Speaker 9: eye structure, everything about them is nocturnal. But them showing

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Speaker 9: up during the day should be the abnormality. But I

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Speaker 9: would continue, you know, I mean, obviously monitor, you could

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Speaker 9: monitor some of your game cameras and stuff. But I

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Speaker 9: feel like, personally, from my experience, I feel like weather patterns.

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Speaker 4: Affect their movement. I feel like they're up on their

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Speaker 4: feet more.

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Speaker 9: I also think food sources is a really really important

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Speaker 9: part of this aspect, because again, the dough the does

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Speaker 9: are going to be doing what dose do. If you're

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Speaker 9: in the dose, you're gonna be in the bucks, you

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Speaker 9: know for sure.

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Speaker 2: Hey, give me that one to ten number.

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Speaker 9: Come on, one to ten for for for next week.

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Speaker 2: Yep, for the next week.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So ten.

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Speaker 2: Ten is good. Ten is the best day you've ever

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Speaker 2: had in the woods, like the best jumps in your truck.

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Speaker 8: You know.

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Speaker 4: I'll say this, I think I think moving.

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Speaker 9: I think the area that I'm hunting in right now

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Speaker 9: is at the tail end of what's really good, and there's.

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Speaker 4: Probably a day or two of that left.

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Speaker 9: I think I'm gonna probably make a move, and I

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Speaker 9: think you could be in the I'm gonna say you

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Speaker 9: could be in the eight nine.

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Speaker 2: Well, well that's a good day. Golly, it's good numbers,

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Speaker 2: good numbers. Think it's me excited. Thanks for the report, Scott. Now,

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Speaker 2: I'm sure we'll be talking you as soon as good

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Speaker 2: to hear from you, man.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, thank you, guys.

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Speaker 3: A bunch of good info from a bunch of good

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Speaker 3: dudes there.

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Speaker 2: If you haven't.

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Speaker 3: Noticed, the South Dakota hunt from the Element in twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty three is on the meat eater channel.

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