Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast. Welcome to that petition of
Speaker 1: the Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansen's
Speaker 1: I'm coming to you from a country filled with heroes.
Speaker 1: In Bunker's Mark Sessler, Greg ros Athal and joining us
Speaker 1: again our old buddy. Oh, I have that plant right
Speaker 1: behind Patrick Clay. Hey, dam Yeah, we're here on the
Speaker 1: on the old video stream. That's the exact I don't
Speaker 1: know the name of that plant, Patrick, but that we
Speaker 1: got two of them. One died almost immediately and the
Speaker 1: other we've really been working with, probably even more than
Speaker 1: we've been working with our own children, to keep it alive. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's about. The survival rate is about one out of
Speaker 1: three for us. You know, you get it. And then
Speaker 1: I did leaves start falling off, of course, you know,
Speaker 1: three destroys it, and uh, you just gotta give up
Speaker 1: a couple of them. You know they're cheap, but they work.
Speaker 1: Are we talking about the kids of the plan. I
Speaker 1: can't remember. Yes, hey, now, Happy belated Father's Day to
Speaker 1: everyone on this show today. And we all have two
Speaker 1: children each. Patrick just got into the two kid club
Speaker 1: right under the deadline. Thank you. Great to be everybody.
Speaker 1: Everybody have a nice Father's Day weekend. Would you guys
Speaker 1: do would you get into m hmm? I did a little,
Speaker 1: did a little beach, did a little in and out.
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm really embracing so cow like after
Speaker 1: five or six years, I'm I'm fully indoctrinate. I don't
Speaker 1: want to go anywhere else another That's what I mean.
Speaker 1: This this offseason has been trying, but I'm happy to
Speaker 1: spend in an l A, a place that I do
Speaker 1: love despite its faults. How about that about you? Mark?
Speaker 1: All Right? Um? Yeah, I thought it was you know,
Speaker 1: I give um my kids a lot of credit. They
Speaker 1: made cute little cards. We had kind of the best
Speaker 1: day we could, mostly at home, and I thought it
Speaker 1: was enjoyable. I I don't know if I embrace the
Speaker 1: this version of l A life the way that um
Speaker 1: my colleague Greg is, but I echo the thoughts I
Speaker 1: would live in l A for a thousand years. Um.
Speaker 1: Current current scenarios make that a little less doable than
Speaker 1: than planned foreshadowing. How about you Patrick? Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: I think we could all take a little Greg Rosenthal
Speaker 1: in our lives with regards to how we approached situation,
Speaker 1: especially fatherhood. But you know, it's kind of surviving advance
Speaker 1: with a incredibly active three year old and his uh,
Speaker 1: his baby sister who warnts a good batt of attention.
Speaker 1: And you're in you're you're in it right now. You're
Speaker 1: in the middle of it. Doesn't matter what day it is.
Speaker 1: You have like a three week old and a three
Speaker 1: year old. Forget about it. But I did. I did.
Speaker 1: Where is my my gift? He brought home on Friday
Speaker 1: a football with number one Dad on it. The go
Speaker 1: It's been sided now we can't take it away from it.
Speaker 1: I had a little concerned about the overall pulling of fathers.
Speaker 1: Apparently there's like seven to eight million number one dad's
Speaker 1: out there. I guarantee simply not the case. There is
Speaker 1: probably a more realistic somewhere out there. I know how
Speaker 1: to weed out all the guys that aren't the number
Speaker 1: one dads. It's the guys that walk around with the
Speaker 1: T shirts saying they are the number one dad. That's
Speaker 1: you know what we're talking about. Last week, Greg, it
Speaker 1: was like the guy that says, this is my team.
Speaker 1: What you gotta say it's my team? You know it's
Speaker 1: not his team. I I have that same flo when
Speaker 1: it comes to the number one Dad memorabilia, right, so
Speaker 1: you're like is walking around with with number one Dad
Speaker 1: uh t shirt in addition to the Bears are my team.
Speaker 1: But if it's given to you as a gift like that, Patrick,
Speaker 1: that does not disqualify you. Just to make that clear,
Speaker 1: you know, I had um. I always felt guilty, like
Speaker 1: as as Damashek would say, I was cheating life down
Speaker 1: here in Texas. Uh the wives. I have a very
Speaker 1: good friend, Jack Doyle down here who was married to
Speaker 1: Emily's cousin Katie, and the two wives splurged and got
Speaker 1: us a pair of jet skis and only went up
Speaker 1: and down the lake and we had a great time.
Speaker 1: That we came back to the house and Emily's mother
Speaker 1: and Emily put together a shrimp boil, which, if you
Speaker 1: have never boiled, a great Southern tradition where they basically
Speaker 1: cook up the bassa and potatoes and and shrimp obviously onions,
Speaker 1: corn on the cob, and they just dump it on
Speaker 1: this table and then everybody just feasts upon it. And
Speaker 1: it's got a great Cajun like flavor to it, all
Speaker 1: of it. Uh So put it all together and hanging
Speaker 1: out of course, with the children was great too, and
Speaker 1: getting to do that so I felt very, very lucky.
Speaker 1: And what's been a very difficult year. Um I turned
Speaker 1: forty this year. To have forty wiped out the way,
Speaker 1: it was just like for Simone as well. Uh if
Speaker 1: there was like a celebration that actually lived up to
Speaker 1: the hype down here. So I am very thankful. On
Speaker 1: this Monday, I'm unconvinced that UM that you should or
Speaker 1: will return to Greg's Los Angeles because, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: you've been down there for a week. You've been the
Speaker 1: centerpiece of various news articles. UM. You know, I was
Speaker 1: taking a look at that Gatesville Messenger and they just
Speaker 1: on Saturday morning released UM a story that I thought
Speaker 1: i'd bring to attention. The headline demand high for chicks
Speaker 1: this year, which I thought was gonna go in one direction.
Speaker 1: This was released on Saturday morning at five am. It's
Speaker 1: here's the lead. The lead here. Urban and rural chicken
Speaker 1: keeping has become increasingly popular over the last several weeks,
Speaker 1: but the COVID nineteen pandemic created a boom in demand
Speaker 1: that backlogged many local hatcherings. So another UM item for
Speaker 1: you to focus on them you've been playing basketball, your
Speaker 1: jet skiing, the wife is cooking shrimp, you know, uh boils.
Speaker 1: It sounds delightable. It's great. Me and Bob Bates, my
Speaker 1: father in law and our official beat reporter of Baylor Sports.
Speaker 1: We built uh a treehouse for the boys as well.
Speaker 1: We did that. And speaking of the Gatesville Messenger, another
Speaker 1: great headline, Mark, I don't know if we're looking at
Speaker 1: the same issue, but headline Coward Winds Scholarship. It's the
Speaker 1: Coward family where they're a dynasty family. Well one of
Speaker 1: them tangling James two. Um, all right, here we go,
Speaker 1: and yes, I'm still waiting to hear back about my
Speaker 1: Gatesville Messenger fate. Hopefully that works out. I'll have an
Speaker 1: update for you hopefully later this week. Today's show with
Speaker 1: the great Patrick Claiban is a fun one and Mark Sessler,
Speaker 1: thank you to you for continuing to churn out. And
Speaker 1: by the way, I would love to return to Greg's
Speaker 1: Los Angeles. It's the Los Angeles for everyone else. You
Speaker 1: know that. I there's no it's the Los Angeles in
Speaker 1: my mind. You know what? What's you know? What are
Speaker 1: you trying to say? You're You're like Andy Dufrayn and
Speaker 1: Shawn take away. They can't lock you away up here.
Speaker 1: I have listeners getting on me. It's like, well, you know,
Speaker 1: those COVID cases are going up. Maybe you shouldn't be
Speaker 1: hitting the beach so much. It's like, okay, first of all,
Speaker 1: we're hitting it at nine am. That's about the safest
Speaker 1: place you can be. There's no one within fifteen feet
Speaker 1: of us. We're outdoors, we're we're wearing a mask to
Speaker 1: and from yea, back off. I'm happy that you're happy.
Speaker 1: I'm not. I mean, it's not all it's not all sunny.
Speaker 1: Greg's Los Angeles is more of a mindset than it
Speaker 1: is a locale or zip code. It's not you know,
Speaker 1: you're not driving. We have to have to be imparted.
Speaker 1: All right. There's off ramp like Greg's l A is
Speaker 1: not an off ramp. I can't find the on ramp.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like anand I did drive to downtown yesterday.
Speaker 1: We went. I walked into a bookstore for the first
Speaker 1: time in three months, which was you know, everyone we
Speaker 1: had their masks and it was awesome. But downtown is
Speaker 1: um it's in rough shape right now. It's not it's
Speaker 1: just even in Greg's mind utopia. You say it's not
Speaker 1: closed up all right, Well, Greg brought us down to
Speaker 1: earth with a final comment, but he gives us the
Speaker 1: story from all angles. Okay, let's listen to this happy,
Speaker 1: happy Father's Day to all the wonderful fathers that dare today.
Speaker 1: My prayer is today that you are appreciated and you
Speaker 1: are celebrated in the way that you want to be
Speaker 1: appreciated and celebrated. They need to stop taking you for granted.
Speaker 1: Always always been up moralizing in the father's den. I
Speaker 1: love Dion. I mean Dion first of allways, a colleague.
Speaker 1: He's very close to us. He shows up his backyard
Speaker 1: looks like basically he lives in his own state park.
Speaker 1: He's wearing a T shirt that says, don't allow my
Speaker 1: confidence to offend your insecurities, and then a giant gold
Speaker 1: rope that says prime on it, and then Mark he
Speaker 1: he had more to say. He had ninety seconds on this. Uh,
Speaker 1: And I thought this one connected with you, especially your
Speaker 1: mindset on a lot of things when it comes to
Speaker 1: marriage and fatherhood. And Dion keep going, Hey, ladies, I
Speaker 1: want y'all to really lift your man up and give
Speaker 1: him the love, respect and honor and support and admiration
Speaker 1: that he deserves to day. We don't give a one day.
Speaker 1: We don't give a one day. If you got to
Speaker 1: fake it, done it, bake it, just gig him what
Speaker 1: he deserves. Are we are we inferring anything there? I
Speaker 1: mean I can report that I received that kind of
Speaker 1: attention and behavior and water and essentially what was a
Speaker 1: waterfall of good feelings yesterday. I can only imagine what
Speaker 1: it would have been like here if my main message
Speaker 1: for the day was stopped taking me for granted. It's
Speaker 1: like I saw, like the Lakisa have wrote a beautiful
Speaker 1: message of what a great um dad. You know Chris
Speaker 1: has been Chris Wesley and or early on, and and
Speaker 1: I was thinking, like what would it take, Like what
Speaker 1: if my wife put that message for me? I would
Speaker 1: think it was a joke personality, Yeah, I would live
Speaker 1: a whole no and I And that's that's one reason
Speaker 1: why I love my wife. You know, it's all everyone
Speaker 1: different types for different you know. It's like I've never
Speaker 1: getten that message. I love. It's one of the things
Speaker 1: I love about Lakisha Laisian Western. Such a great couple.
Speaker 1: They're so open and um, just the way she is
Speaker 1: able to express their relationship in West as well, if
Speaker 1: you remember his iconic vows uh the roof top of
Speaker 1: the armory down there in Tybee Island. Uh. And we
Speaker 1: certainly miss West. We want him back here as soon
Speaker 1: as possible. UM. All right, guys, let's get into the news.
Speaker 1: All right. We'll start and we did a show of
Speaker 1: course late Thursday night, and we talked about, um what
Speaker 1: Dr Tony Fauci had to say, his thoughts on the
Speaker 1: NFL's ability to have a season. And this happened during
Speaker 1: a week last week where there are a lot of
Speaker 1: outbreaks across the country, but also it hit a lot
Speaker 1: of teams both on the pro side and across sports.
Speaker 1: Clemson football, Uh, and give you a little update where
Speaker 1: where we are. And then now, so the NFL p
Speaker 1: A has a recommended against its members working out together
Speaker 1: as the number of COVID nineteen cases increases in many states.
Speaker 1: As you've seen all across social media, UH, players have
Speaker 1: been gathering, gathering, not even some players that are teammates,
Speaker 1: but just you know, you'll see a bunch of high
Speaker 1: profile players from different teams all gathering and just getting
Speaker 1: in the work, trying to do what they would have
Speaker 1: done under normal circumstances this time of year in mini camps,
Speaker 1: just get some work. But uh the now, the advice
Speaker 1: from the p A the union is to uh cease
Speaker 1: all of that. Also, the NFL sent out a memo
Speaker 1: that creates tiers of access and its facilities to manage
Speaker 1: the coronavirus and you it breaks down as a tier one,
Speaker 1: Tier two, Tier three employees, and it's all designed to
Speaker 1: again limit exposure, limit the chances certain personnel or the
Speaker 1: need of personnel to get to places where they don't
Speaker 1: need to be that could cause. It's all trying to
Speaker 1: control what's happening right now in this world that we
Speaker 1: live in. Mark Sessler, Well, I mean, I know you
Speaker 1: guys discussed on last week's emergency pod, which I apologize for, um,
Speaker 1: you know, not being there at allency. Well, no, it
Speaker 1: wasn't not did not not ring into the emergency category,
Speaker 1: that's right. Um, But you know, I thought last week was,
Speaker 1: in the run of the reasons for that show, among
Speaker 1: other large news items, was really the first week that
Speaker 1: I thought that the sport of football was um remarkably
Speaker 1: impact by c nineteen, I mean that college football specifically,
Speaker 1: I think put you know, we were texting with each other,
Speaker 1: I put put a lot of alarm, um, an element
Speaker 1: of alarm and to me and what what the going forward?
Speaker 1: Just you know, pound ahead to September ten, eyes on
Speaker 1: the prize um is a little bit um disconcordant with
Speaker 1: what's happening around us. And so the NFL responded, I
Speaker 1: think appropriately in terms of these practices, these workouts with
Speaker 1: these players get together, um cut them off for now
Speaker 1: because we simply can't predict what the outcome will be.
Speaker 1: And the outcome seemed pretty grizzly even just after a
Speaker 1: little bit of that. The one thing I think gets
Speaker 1: a little lost in this, and I'll then I'll leave
Speaker 1: it for you guys, is that it's fine to point
Speaker 1: out that your average twenty three year old player could
Speaker 1: have corona and be asymptomatic, never know he had it,
Speaker 1: and life goes on as normal. That's largely statistically true
Speaker 1: for a lot of younger people that are vibrant, But
Speaker 1: I mean packed into any NFL team are probably fifteen
Speaker 1: to twenty people that in their fifties and sixties, in
Speaker 1: some case seventies. So are you gonna do. Are you
Speaker 1: going to just march coaches out there of that age?
Speaker 1: I mean, there's just a lot more to consider that
Speaker 1: isn't even being discussed. And the one thing I'd say
Speaker 1: about the league is they seem to be eyeing a
Speaker 1: number of external factors and sports leagues to see how
Speaker 1: things continue um with by saying very little about what
Speaker 1: is actually being discussed behind the scenes. At this point,
Speaker 1: I would like to be if we talked about the
Speaker 1: fly on the Wall segment, I would like to know
Speaker 1: what they're actually saying about real life and how it
Speaker 1: is impacting something that used to be four months away
Speaker 1: now it is merely weeks away. If you want to
Speaker 1: continue this season the way they've talked about full start
Speaker 1: week one, horse blinders on Roll Ahead MHM and also
Speaker 1: our horse blinders on though I don't think. I think
Speaker 1: they're doing a lot of work that they need to
Speaker 1: do here and and now they're trying to What we're
Speaker 1: seeing now is their action steps with and now whether
Speaker 1: it works or not, because we know for John Harbaugh,
Speaker 1: as an example, says, the plan that they plan to
Speaker 1: put into place is going to be impossible. Does this
Speaker 1: tier system? Is that gonna work. Uh. Mike Florio p
Speaker 1: FT reported the league remains quote highly optimistic season will
Speaker 1: go forward a schedule, but there's less optimism existing now
Speaker 1: that fans will ever be president at any of the
Speaker 1: games if they are played. Patrick, Well, it's real quick
Speaker 1: to me, that's the that's been the line for three months.
Speaker 1: That's when I talk about like just saying the same
Speaker 1: thing over and over. Actions are saying we're stripping practices away,
Speaker 1: We're stripping many camps away, were stripping everything else away.
Speaker 1: And we had heard from David Tepper, I believe it
Speaker 1: was two months ago, and time just kind of doesn't
Speaker 1: really exist during this whole thing, but he had said
Speaker 1: that he saw an opportunity with teams that had outdoor
Speaker 1: stadiums to have some fans in attendance. And I wonder,
Speaker 1: you know, as the days and weeks have gone on,
Speaker 1: if he changed that. But it's kind of like the
Speaker 1: fluctuations of NFL policy are built in. Like we heard
Speaker 1: after we heard from Dr Fauci last week, UH Dr
Speaker 1: Sills UH came out and said that the NFL's policies
Speaker 1: are going to reflect the current advice at the moment,
Speaker 1: and so if they if they do need to move to,
Speaker 1: say a bubble plan or at least a plan where
Speaker 1: players and their families are isolated before we even begin
Speaker 1: trying this. Then that's something that they feel like they
Speaker 1: can implement and they can go to be because you know,
Speaker 1: every step of the way, there have been changes as
Speaker 1: we learn more about this virus that we knew nothing about,
Speaker 1: uh this time last year, And we don't know how
Speaker 1: players are gonna recover. We don't know how von Miller
Speaker 1: and his lungs are going to recover, playing at how altitude,
Speaker 1: how that's going to be for players, right, Uh, there's
Speaker 1: just so many unknowns, and so all that we really
Speaker 1: can do is adjust to the unknowns as they come
Speaker 1: come along, as they become known unknowns, and we find
Speaker 1: out more about what we don't know, found out more
Speaker 1: about what we do know, but we we just there's
Speaker 1: no way to know right now. Right That's why I'm
Speaker 1: not overly concerned about the public statements. Now, some are
Speaker 1: going to be more positive than others, But I think
Speaker 1: being like lacking some definition right now makes some sense
Speaker 1: to me. It's kind of like the school systems around
Speaker 1: us not putting out their plan for you know, some
Speaker 1: parents are like freaked out that there's not any plan
Speaker 1: for you know, mid August, late August school is coming back.
Speaker 1: It's like, make the plan when when there's more information available.
Speaker 1: Because as we've seen in California, as as we've opened up,
Speaker 1: you know, stores and the economy and everything, cases have
Speaker 1: slowly gone up. And there are other places that were
Speaker 1: in great shape that have NFL teams like Florida, you know, Miami,
Speaker 1: Arizona that we're in good shape before and and now
Speaker 1: are in bad shape, you know, in really bad shape.
Speaker 1: So things are gonna be changing all the time. And
Speaker 1: I mean, I said it the other day, I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna keep it. It's like it's a cut. It's a
Speaker 1: national problem. It's not an NFL problem. And the NBA
Speaker 1: is going to be dealing with the MLB is gonna
Speaker 1: be dealing with it they ever like agree to come back.
Speaker 1: I just think that the Bucks players, for instance, and
Speaker 1: all this reporting, by the way, in terms of the
Speaker 1: tears that was from Adam Schefter Um that wasn't you know,
Speaker 1: officially out there yet. He also reported some Bucks players
Speaker 1: and coaches got it. You know Texans in Cowboys. We
Speaker 1: talked about last week had it, and you just see
Speaker 1: this now across all sports. I mean, then the numbers
Speaker 1: of the college football players are what's alarming are It's
Speaker 1: crazy to me. It's not just like a couple on
Speaker 1: each team. It's like twenty plus per team. Tennis had
Speaker 1: like one event where they basically didn't I didn't care
Speaker 1: about any safety at all, um, you know, And it
Speaker 1: was in the Balkans, I believe, where there was very
Speaker 1: little coronavirus. And what happened to two top twenty five
Speaker 1: players tested positive afterwards and they were just hanging out
Speaker 1: the whole time, like you know. And that's and and
Speaker 1: that's in a place where there's almost no coronavirus. But
Speaker 1: people are coming from all over and that's what this
Speaker 1: is gonna be like with the players to players are
Speaker 1: going to be coming from all over the country. So
Speaker 1: there's just just like so many things to think about
Speaker 1: that it's hard to expected any organization to be able
Speaker 1: to handle or think about all. Do not trust anything
Speaker 1: occurring or coming out of the Balkans. Let's start right
Speaker 1: there in the Florial report, which served as generally an
Speaker 1: update of where we are now compared to where the
Speaker 1: reporting and the and what his sources were telling him
Speaker 1: like a month ago was one sort of suggested that
Speaker 1: the rash of positive tests among that Clemson team, where
Speaker 1: there were a ton of guys that tested positive for
Speaker 1: COVID UH, the exposure most likely happened in a weight
Speaker 1: room where the air is thick and the athletes are
Speaker 1: breathing heavily as they exert themselves. It's again, it's just
Speaker 1: like there's just a lot of theories out there, but
Speaker 1: that's why this has to be the way it is,
Speaker 1: and there's so much indecision, and uh, it's just we
Speaker 1: don't know. Then. I'm sure the NFL will try to
Speaker 1: do things to avoid of that type of situation in
Speaker 1: weight rooms, and that's part of the tearing that's reported
Speaker 1: out there as well. But buckle up the the The
Speaker 1: NFL teams have a universal report date this year of July,
Speaker 1: So I guess is that makes sense as the next
Speaker 1: big benchmark if you if you're curious, and everybody is,
Speaker 1: does this season start on September tenth or whatever is
Speaker 1: the date. Let's see what happens by the time we
Speaker 1: get to end of July and do these camps start
Speaker 1: in time? But I would add one little like if
Speaker 1: you read Alfred Albert Brier's UM, you know, Monday Morning column,
Speaker 1: like he talked about the fact that there are coaches
Speaker 1: out there and they're not you know, going on the
Speaker 1: record with their name, but quotes from them saying no,
Speaker 1: we're we're gonna push back, like there are there's a
Speaker 1: certain pocket of coaches that simply do not believe the
Speaker 1: season should start UM on September ten, based on where
Speaker 1: we are today. And so I just I wonder if
Speaker 1: there's gonna be there's individual health concerns, there's individual risk
Speaker 1: taking here, depending on who you are. There's plenty of
Speaker 1: people in the NFL that have recovered from illnesses cancer
Speaker 1: that make them um more concerned about what they're exposed to.
Speaker 1: I mean, the idea that you're gonna get a percent
Speaker 1: by in UM is the next wave of this. I think. Alright,
Speaker 1: let's move on to some football matters. On this very show,
Speaker 1: we blasted to the Sun any storylines and reporting connected
Speaker 1: to Dak Prescott and his possible extension. Sounded like this
Speaker 1: sounded just like that. Uh, And we promised that we
Speaker 1: would hit the Prescott uh news when there was real
Speaker 1: news to discuss, and UH, it looks like we have
Speaker 1: something because Adam Schefter reported that Dak Prescott is expected
Speaker 1: to sign his franchise tender today Monday. The tender is
Speaker 1: worth thirty one point four million ESPN uh ESPNS. Edward
Speaker 1: Er also reported that Prescott's decision to sign the tender
Speaker 1: is not an indication that a long term agreement is close,
Speaker 1: but we will see if they get the deal done.
Speaker 1: They have until July to negotiate a long term deal.
Speaker 1: Otherwise he will play on that one year, thirty one
Speaker 1: point four million dollar tag in twenty and greg. If
Speaker 1: they at this point, the leverage continues to build for
Speaker 1: Prescott because he plays under that The Cowboys done either
Speaker 1: after give him a deal next year or tag him
Speaker 1: again for almost thirty eight million dollars potentially in one.
Speaker 1: Either way, Dak's doing well financially. Will see if this
Speaker 1: actually leads to a learned long term deal. Yeah, nil,
Speaker 1: July fifteenth is the is the key. They I'm confused
Speaker 1: actually what I can discuss because it has been blasted
Speaker 1: into the sun. But I know, I know this doesn't
Speaker 1: make and feel comfortable as a closet Cowboys fan. You know,
Speaker 1: he tries to keep it about this. I didn't know that.
Speaker 1: Bring it up every once in a while. He gets
Speaker 1: down a long time ago. I don't. I don't understand.
Speaker 1: Greg likes to make jokes because he's a funny just
Speaker 1: a wonderful man. Greg involved, but I haven't cared about
Speaker 1: the Okay, all right, well here you grew up a
Speaker 1: Cowboys fane. Well, my college classmate demrcus Ware was drafted
Speaker 1: by the Cowboys and Bill Parcels, and so I began
Speaker 1: to follow the team and cheered cheered on him while
Speaker 1: he was There's comfortable you made Claybon, Greg, I mean,
Speaker 1: he's a guest. I'm extortinarily comfortable making people uncomfortable. Is
Speaker 1: how I show affection. Really welcome you into the podcast.
Speaker 1: But I mean, if if we're concerned about my affinity
Speaker 1: for Cowboys fans, I could just torch them there now.
Speaker 1: We could just go ahead and get rid of that.
Speaker 1: If Cowboys fans like that Dak Prescott More who has
Speaker 1: been a spectacular quarterback for them in an underpaid one
Speaker 1: since his rookie year, uh, then we wouldn't be having
Speaker 1: this discussion because he would have been signed a long
Speaker 1: time ago. It's an indictment of them. And as well
Speaker 1: as you know, the people that are going to have
Speaker 1: to pay him now that they didn't pay him earlier,
Speaker 1: and so that's that's their mistake. That's a that's a
Speaker 1: great point. I haven't heard about the dock thing. It
Speaker 1: is really weird to me that there's a split in
Speaker 1: Cowboys fans of whether they're pro doc or not, which
Speaker 1: it does seem a little crazy. It seems a little
Speaker 1: crazy from the outside. S oiled brats is what they are.
Speaker 1: It's happening in Philadelphia too. I mean, there's there's been
Speaker 1: this weird split with Carson Wentz and it's like two
Speaker 1: quarterbacks that I would be if you didn't have a quarterback,
Speaker 1: I'd be happy with one of the either one of
Speaker 1: those guys. In a second, I mean, turn the clock back.
Speaker 1: Let's just turn the clock back to if I told you, guys,
Speaker 1: the quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys would lead the NFL
Speaker 1: in passing and wouldn't get voted into the Pro Bowl.
Speaker 1: How would you react to that? Much sense? In other
Speaker 1: semi Cowboys news, uh Jets safety Jamal Adams, who talked
Speaker 1: about him on the Thursday Night Show. He wants out
Speaker 1: and he wants an extension either or he's listed eight
Speaker 1: teams that he wants to be traded to this from
Speaker 1: rap sheet without needing a new deal, even while he
Speaker 1: has demanded an extension from his current team, the Jets.
Speaker 1: Among those teams is the Dallas Cowboys. And there was
Speaker 1: a little video clip that went viral over the weekend
Speaker 1: of Adams, who's a Texas native, driving his suv uh
Speaker 1: in Dallas and a guy from the street called out,
Speaker 1: you know, come to the Dallas and and he said,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to. So that's where we are in this situation.
Speaker 1: I guess I'm I'm confused. Do you think he wants
Speaker 1: In terms of clarity on this one, I would like
Speaker 1: to know if he wants just out of New York
Speaker 1: straight up, or you want the money from New York.
Speaker 1: If the the Jets caved to his demands right now
Speaker 1: and offered him the deal that he wants, would he
Speaker 1: take it or is it to a situation now where
Speaker 1: he wouldn't take it and he wants out of town.
Speaker 1: That's that's the next part of the story, and the
Speaker 1: story I'm really enjoying h and how it will play on.
Speaker 1: I think he would take the money. I mean if
Speaker 1: they offered him a truly market setting safety deal. I
Speaker 1: think that's the case, but I think both can be true.
Speaker 1: I think there's probably some sense that he also wants out,
Speaker 1: uh if you know, if things are close to being equal,
Speaker 1: he likes the idea of maybe moving on or else.
Speaker 1: I don't think we would have heard all of this
Speaker 1: stuff coming from his agent last year, and in the
Speaker 1: first place, I and our guy rap sheet said the
Speaker 1: jets Is plan is to kind of hold tight. I mean,
Speaker 1: they're not planning in to do anything. So that's I
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be a lot of noise and not
Speaker 1: a lot of action in this one. I mean, Jane Slater,
Speaker 1: who you know, I can't think of anyone that's put
Speaker 1: on more tedious storylines on it is a highly marketable team.
Speaker 1: But to deal with back in the middle of this offseason,
Speaker 1: this drama, well, I mean she she also covers it
Speaker 1: well reading. I mean she basically tweeted this morning that
Speaker 1: there is now a trust issue between the Jamal Adams
Speaker 1: and the Jets, which is the first sign of um,
Speaker 1: you know, they're not going to be together long now.
Speaker 1: I agree with Greg. If they threw out a ton
Speaker 1: of money Um, everyone will get real poetic and happy
Speaker 1: with each other real quick potentially. But I mean, it
Speaker 1: seems like anything that Jamal Adams or anyone a safety
Speaker 1: is doing right now is for money, because you're not
Speaker 1: going to probably get this contract down the road. It's
Speaker 1: a tough position to get paid at. It reminds me
Speaker 1: a little bit of Earl Thomas, UM some shadings of that.
Speaker 1: But he's also from Dallas, and I think that that
Speaker 1: calling out to the guy with the phone, I think
Speaker 1: if you want to say, what is Jamal Adams? What
Speaker 1: is he from? Like a heart level, where would he
Speaker 1: like to be? Preferably it would not be the Jets.
Speaker 1: If the Jets want to keep them there like Jet teams,
Speaker 1: like the Jets have to do, it's gonna have to
Speaker 1: come through. Um, they'll lose control at some point in
Speaker 1: a major con tracked. If they had made him the
Speaker 1: offer that he wanted, then we wouldn't be having the
Speaker 1: conversation right. The whole the whole point that he's not
Speaker 1: happy is that he doesn't feel like they are going
Speaker 1: to offer him what he wants now, and he doesn't
Speaker 1: feel like they're going to be willing to offer him
Speaker 1: what he wants or what he's worth when the time
Speaker 1: comes at the end of his rookie contract. And so
Speaker 1: it's like, in terms of being happy, he wants to
Speaker 1: be compensated. I mean, he could like the facility, he
Speaker 1: could like the people around him, he could like the
Speaker 1: waite staff, the cafeteria people. But he's not gonna get
Speaker 1: paid what he would like to be paid for playing
Speaker 1: a game that's pretty violent. Then why wouldn't he want
Speaker 1: to try to do that somewhere else? I get just
Speaker 1: a sucky scenario for Jets fans because how many guys
Speaker 1: can you point to on the roster over the last
Speaker 1: ten years? You could say this is a generational talent um,
Speaker 1: this is who you buy the jersey of. And then
Speaker 1: he can't stop being frankly like just a hyper nuisance
Speaker 1: like it just he's He's easily my top in my
Speaker 1: top five most annoying athlete I never want to hear
Speaker 1: from again right now, And asn'tthing to do with the player,
Speaker 1: did he did he float his own trade rumors last year?
Speaker 1: Was that was that of his doing? But I mean
Speaker 1: the Jets picked up the phone. I mean in terms
Speaker 1: of like the news cycle that I mean that's coming
Speaker 1: from flooring park. That that wasn't necessarily also enjoyed, enjoyed
Speaker 1: that he um livened up our super Bowl hotel with
Speaker 1: like a Wednesday afternoon Um, you know pool party while
Speaker 1: we were having that doesn't charity. I mean, he's going
Speaker 1: to Dallas. He better learned how to run a pool
Speaker 1: party with with more pizzazz than that one. He was
Speaker 1: barely I mean he that was like got like a
Speaker 1: D minus and like and it was like am on
Speaker 1: a Tuesday they I mean, we all remember the crowd
Speaker 1: or surround looked like a lot of fun. To me,
Speaker 1: I could have found a way to enjoy the situation.
Speaker 1: I think, um, that was one of the great all
Speaker 1: time around the NFL moments in terms of surrealness. Uh
Speaker 1: um us for average bros just sitting at this table
Speaker 1: pool side planning out some show as Jamal Adams and
Speaker 1: friends just went nuts about fifty yards away, uh enjoying
Speaker 1: the highlights. Eric Erica's parents wandering over to investigate the party.
Speaker 1: I gave them a lot of credit. They were and
Speaker 1: they went for it. And I love Erica's dad is
Speaker 1: like Erica come back on a second. Erica's dad who
Speaker 1: is you know, the most New England person I've ever met,
Speaker 1: right down to the shorts with the world Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: and those those boat shoes and the college shirt and
Speaker 1: the whole the polo shirt and everything him. Just like
Speaker 1: wandering through the background of the Jamal Adams pool party
Speaker 1: is something not an image that will leave my mind.
Speaker 1: Uh soon. My dad was like, who is this guy?
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go over there. It's like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: please Dallas safety. I wonder how much UM from a
Speaker 1: macro standpoint in this and I'm removed. I'm gonna try
Speaker 1: to remove myself now as a Jets fan and all that,
Speaker 1: and just talk about the rookie wage scale, which was
Speaker 1: negotiated and agreed upon in two thousand eleven when they
Speaker 1: did the Collective Bargaining Agreement. And if you are a
Speaker 1: superstar out of the gate, like a Jalen Ramsey, UM,
Speaker 1: like a Patrick Mahomes, like a Christian McCaffrey, like a
Speaker 1: Jamal Adams, the wage scale, which Greg, You're you're better
Speaker 1: at this with the details and the history of it
Speaker 1: than I was. But in the old days, if you
Speaker 1: were a top fight rookie or a first round pick,
Speaker 1: you got a huge contract and you were making a
Speaker 1: lot up more than established NFL guys. And this rectified
Speaker 1: it on on on on a large level. Um, because
Speaker 1: now these guys were locked into contracts and the money
Speaker 1: was not that big until you got to the fifth
Speaker 1: year option as a first round pick. Are we now
Speaker 1: seeing as time goes on that that system is just
Speaker 1: not gonna work because these guys understand that they've greatly
Speaker 1: outplayed this contract that is locked in and is that
Speaker 1: potentially down the road I guess the CBA has already
Speaker 1: agreed to. I guess it's not something that was brought up,
Speaker 1: But I'm just curious how much of that down the
Speaker 1: road or right now is becoming the bigger and bigger
Speaker 1: issue in the NFL. No, it was a problem for
Speaker 1: the players, and they have changed it. I mean probably,
Speaker 1: I don't think they changed it enough. Um, but Jamal
Speaker 1: Adams is still on this old c v A. I
Speaker 1: think the rookies ultimately they went too far in the
Speaker 1: other direction. Um that now these rookie contracts are are
Speaker 1: there too undervalue. Now they did make a pretty big
Speaker 1: change where the fifth year option for the first round
Speaker 1: picks is more about your performance, so it's not slotted
Speaker 1: based on if you were taking twenty four or you
Speaker 1: were taking fifth. It's more about how many Pro Bowls
Speaker 1: you made, which gets a little hazy too, and and
Speaker 1: some performance structures. And so we'll see that change. I
Speaker 1: think next year. Actually, this might be the last year
Speaker 1: that that the players are kind of in the old
Speaker 1: old system, unless Claybon you wanted to correct me there.
Speaker 1: But even then, with the changes in the Pro Bowls,
Speaker 1: I don't think it's I don't think they went far enough,
Speaker 1: and I think similar issues are basically going to happen anyways. Yeah, No,
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, we treat those sometimes like
Speaker 1: unintended consequences. I think, you know, the system was performing
Speaker 1: exactly as it was designed. That was that was the plan.
Speaker 1: That was the plan to help teams keep these superstars basically,
Speaker 1: and the fifth year option is not a killer, but um,
Speaker 1: you know, for a player like Jamal Adams, it doesn't
Speaker 1: make that free agency seem a little too far away.
Speaker 1: In other news, the statue of former Redskins owner George
Speaker 1: Preston Marshall was removed from outside RFK Stadium on Friday
Speaker 1: morning events d C. And this is an important distinction
Speaker 1: Events d C is in charge of RFK Stadium. They
Speaker 1: removed the statue. The Redskins play now at FedEx Field
Speaker 1: over and Landover in a whole different area, a different state. Um,
Speaker 1: and uh, they had nothing to do with this, but
Speaker 1: the Events DC decided to take down the statue. And
Speaker 1: George Preston Marshall, if you're not aware, Uh, he was
Speaker 1: the founding owner of the red Skins. They were the
Speaker 1: Boston Braves originally and then he changed them to the
Speaker 1: to the Redskins. They moved to d C, which is
Speaker 1: where the guy was from. And he is, to use
Speaker 1: modern parlance of probably problematic figure. He was the last
Speaker 1: owner to integrate UM players and allow black players to
Speaker 1: join his team. In fact, um Patrick, he was so
Speaker 1: he he was so dug in under this. He he
Speaker 1: had a famous quote that I'll have a black player
Speaker 1: on my team when the Harlem Globetrotters um have a
Speaker 1: white player on their team. And it was only when
Speaker 1: he got to d C and the RFK Stadium lease
Speaker 1: potentially would have been voided if he didn't integrate that.
Speaker 1: He went ahead and the team started allowing black players
Speaker 1: on the team. So his statue, he gone, yeah, whenever
Speaker 1: you have a racism section on your Wikipedia, um, people
Speaker 1: should probably uh look out for your statue. In our
Speaker 1: current climate, as people like to say, we're, um, well,
Speaker 1: I guess there's a large population out there that that
Speaker 1: is willing to take up their issues with white supremacy
Speaker 1: with people who have statues and so, um, yeah, if
Speaker 1: you got a racisms uh you know section, you might
Speaker 1: you might want to watch out. I mean, they there.
Speaker 1: It goes on a few levels. They're they're also replacing
Speaker 1: his name, which was inside the stadium sort of on
Speaker 1: a ring of honor type of deal, that the team
Speaker 1: is removing that and replacing it with with Bobby Mitchell,
Speaker 1: who was the first black player to play for the
Speaker 1: Redskins and was a great player. It was actually they
Speaker 1: only got him in a trade because the first black
Speaker 1: player they drafted, Ernie Davis, said I'm not playing for
Speaker 1: that SLB. I'm not playing for George Preston Marshall, and
Speaker 1: they ended up, you know, they ended up getting Bobby Mitchell,
Speaker 1: so he's dug in and you know, it brings up, um,
Speaker 1: you know, a topic that's been brought up a lot
Speaker 1: more lately, which is, you know, will the team changed
Speaker 1: their name, and he is the guy who named their team,
Speaker 1: you know. And I think that you have to consider
Speaker 1: that context in the in the idea of this team name,
Speaker 1: which you know, we we've battled about on this show.
Speaker 1: It was like five years ago. I feel like it
Speaker 1: was the last time we talked about it. But I
Speaker 1: think it's rightly getting some momentum to change the team
Speaker 1: name again too well. I mean, you know, and that
Speaker 1: starts with the the owner right there. I mean, who
Speaker 1: who came out strongly grew up a fan of the
Speaker 1: team and is strongly UM at that time at least
Speaker 1: UH wanted to stick with it. You haven't heard much,
Speaker 1: but otherwise the idea that this statue removed. Individual went
Speaker 1: sixteen years UM before adding an African American player to
Speaker 1: his team, sixteen years that everything he experienced in life
Speaker 1: and how our country changed. He was unswayed by that.
Speaker 1: UM tells me all I need to know about. When
Speaker 1: Bobby Kennedy got involved, he like they they issued an ultimatum.
Speaker 1: The only reason they did it is because the government
Speaker 1: issued an ultimatum said you're not getting our tax money
Speaker 1: or whatever it was, your tax breaks unless at least
Speaker 1: it had to do with the RFK Stadium, which at
Speaker 1: the time, uh it was DC Stadium, but it was
Speaker 1: owned federally. It was a federally owned piece of land
Speaker 1: that it sat on, and that that spurred the action
Speaker 1: more than anything else. And that's why I said at
Speaker 1: the beginning of this, it is important to note that
Speaker 1: the Redskins didn't pull down that statue. It was that
Speaker 1: it was the landowner of RFK Stadium. So to connect
Speaker 1: the dots there and say that, okay, they took down
Speaker 1: the statue of the Redskins. What's coming next, Well, that
Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily die there are in the situation, right, um,
Speaker 1: All right, moving on, Oh, Dallas Goddard got got in
Speaker 1: a bar, a sucker punch, uh while at a dimly
Speaker 1: lit and there was video that went out run around
Speaker 1: at social media because everything is on video now, um.
Speaker 1: And it was an incident at a South Dakota bar.
Speaker 1: He was kind of in a verbal You couldn't really
Speaker 1: tell whether he was in a verbal confrontation with another
Speaker 1: guy or he was trying to talk down a guy,
Speaker 1: calmed down a guy. It wasn't really clear, um, But
Speaker 1: what was clear was that hang on. I got a
Speaker 1: call from Texas. Hang on, this could be the gatesvill messenger.
Speaker 1: Please be hello, be on speaker phone. Yes, yeah, this messenger. Hey,
Speaker 1: what's up? Mark? Are you there? Oh? No, uh? Are
Speaker 1: you there? Mark? All right? I lost them. You might
Speaker 1: but that's a great experienced some weird feedback issues I've noticed.
Speaker 1: If there's certainly with the with the mic. I have
Speaker 1: experienced that positive sign though. I mean, he's not calling
Speaker 1: to ask if you subscribe to the paper here for
Speaker 1: two weeks. This is huge. This is trementous exciting. All right,
Speaker 1: let's see he's calling back. It almost feels staged. It
Speaker 1: almost is, but it is not. Hang on, let Dan Hansas. Yes, Hey, Mark,
Speaker 1: what's up? Sorry? I got disconnected there. How are you doing? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm pretty good. Us got the note that you're gonna
Speaker 1: be done a podcast from gage Full this Friday. I am, Yes,
Speaker 1: I'm very excited. It's actually where it's our NFL network show, Um,
Speaker 1: around the NFL Show, and I'll be doing my portion
Speaker 1: of the program from John Ward's office, which we're very
Speaker 1: excited about of the his insurance company right there on
Speaker 1: the main street area there. All right, what time are
Speaker 1: you gonna be there? Um? I have to figure out
Speaker 1: that timing on it, but it will probably be in
Speaker 1: the early afternoon window, like twelve to three in that zone.
Speaker 1: I could get back to you with like details once
Speaker 1: I have it hammered out. Yeah, that's fine. I mean
Speaker 1: I might come over there maybe trying to get a
Speaker 1: photo of you when you're in town. Get a photo
Speaker 1: that's good, excellent, like the makings of a vibrant Q
Speaker 1: and A if nothing else. We're imagine the scene of
Speaker 1: Wolf of Wall Street as Leo's on the phone trying
Speaker 1: to coke someone in to buy a penny stock and
Speaker 1: Dan's Dan's looking at all of us, putting his fists
Speaker 1: in the air like selling it like as he's talking, like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I like you mentioned a note was
Speaker 1: put on his desk. I wonder, you know, I just
Speaker 1: wonder who wrote the note, where it's coming from there,
Speaker 1: Just you know, there's probably a story on the story
Speaker 1: itself at some point here. If he calls back, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna have to jump away because I think there is
Speaker 1: some type of connection issue. But all right, that's huge
Speaker 1: and the photography sending a photographer over or it doesn't
Speaker 1: think I think he's just going to take the picture
Speaker 1: of Yeah, I don't think they're outsourcing that. I know
Speaker 1: I'm not in your l a Narnia, Greg, but don't
Speaker 1: try to take this moment away. I got an interview,
Speaker 1: and now all I need is the front page. You know,
Speaker 1: I've been exploring the Gatesville Messenger and I feel like
Speaker 1: if you can't get the front page, it would be
Speaker 1: time for some soul searching. There is while there are
Speaker 1: a couple hot take farming updates, you know what. That's
Speaker 1: that's bad too, because you're trying to set it up
Speaker 1: like if I don't get it, it will be something
Speaker 1: to to somehow attack me. For No, it wouldn't take
Speaker 1: what you also said, you weren't going to do it
Speaker 1: unless you got the requirements you've mentioned you that was
Speaker 1: you putting that out there. You know. Envy is an
Speaker 1: ugly look on both of you, guys. I gotta tell
Speaker 1: you something. I I you know, I after I'm not
Speaker 1: sure envious is where I'm coming. You know what the
Speaker 1: worst part of it is, I I feel I could
Speaker 1: set you guys rooting for me not to be on
Speaker 1: the front page, which I know all the listeners want
Speaker 1: me on the front page. Something for you, something bad
Speaker 1: didn't happen, al right, and everything was ine. All right.
Speaker 1: I gotta call this guy back real quick. All right.
Speaker 1: I just I just got off the phone with the
Speaker 1: guy from the Gatesville Messenger. I'm very excited. But let's
Speaker 1: I'll tell you guys more about it later. Let's continue
Speaker 1: to do the news because we only have a finite
Speaker 1: amount of time with the great Patrick clay Bound, who's
Speaker 1: gonna be on NFL network as he is always he's
Speaker 1: back from paternity to leaving rocking it. You're doing the
Speaker 1: NFL now right, just all the time, now right? Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: just the uh the updates, old school the man. All right,
Speaker 1: let's let me get into this. So the Dallas Godard,
Speaker 1: the very good Eagles tight end, he got sucker punched
Speaker 1: at a South Dakota bar and security video which was
Speaker 1: floating around the web at the Zoo bar in Aberdeen.
Speaker 1: It's a blow that he got hit and as soon
Speaker 1: as by the time he got to the ground, he
Speaker 1: was already out a nasty shodow. Apparently he's doing well
Speaker 1: and that's good. And there was an arrest made in
Speaker 1: connection with this incident. Um terrible, I do. I am curious, guys,
Speaker 1: Have you ever been in an altercation like this? Have
Speaker 1: you ever been sucker punched? Have you ever been in
Speaker 1: a bar brawl? I'm just curious been in one barberawl
Speaker 1: Um did not play an active role. Was sucker punched
Speaker 1: um in the year on a sidewalking boulder at one
Speaker 1: twenty one in the morning by kind of a It
Speaker 1: was a truly drunken, crazy twenty something rushing up the
Speaker 1: boardwalk and his friend was trying to control him. And
Speaker 1: I was barely paying attention. But I was sitting on
Speaker 1: you know, a little stone sidewalk thing, and the guy
Speaker 1: just like leveled me with a right hook just as
Speaker 1: my friend, Um Kiwi was picking me up and we
Speaker 1: I got right in the car and we rushed it off.
Speaker 1: What hanging with the guy's name, Kiwi? It sounds like trouble. Well,
Speaker 1: his name is John. He was from New Zealand. But um,
Speaker 1: you know he not arrived. I'm not sure it would
Speaker 1: have happened to me. I mean I couldn't see out
Speaker 1: in my right eye for like the first ten minutes episode.
Speaker 1: I was about eight years old and I was fishing
Speaker 1: on a golf course in Birmingham, Alabama, and somebody came
Speaker 1: behind me and pushed me in randomly and ran off.
Speaker 1: Um got back out. Ever since then, I cut my
Speaker 1: head on a swivel from uh. With regards to people
Speaker 1: and so, I have not been hit, I have not
Speaker 1: been hit. I have struck people, but I have never
Speaker 1: been hit since I was eight years old. But you
Speaker 1: have struck people. Have you sucker punched someone? No, they're
Speaker 1: always looking okay, good. You don't seem like a sucker
Speaker 1: punch guy, so that would have been surprising. What about you,
Speaker 1: Greg get loose? It was in hockey fights, but that
Speaker 1: never counted usually, you know, had your gloves on. You
Speaker 1: were like nine years old and stuff. I played some
Speaker 1: hockey when I was a kid, but I was you know,
Speaker 1: I've told this story. I've been on the outskirts of
Speaker 1: many fights, but I never I've never jumped into the freight.
Speaker 1: And I did go you know, to Orleans Paris prison
Speaker 1: for a night, uh for being kind of on the
Speaker 1: outskirts of a fight. But all all truth, I neither
Speaker 1: received nor delivered a punch, which probably doesn't shock you.
Speaker 1: I wish West was here because he would have some
Speaker 1: great stories. Yeah, he was one. Really, I've avoided being
Speaker 1: involved with fights, uh for the most part. I had
Speaker 1: one scary incident when I was was also on a
Speaker 1: sidewalk outside of bar Mark. I was with a girl
Speaker 1: and we had never our relationship was kind of in
Speaker 1: a weird place, and we had never been outwardly um
Speaker 1: showing signs of being a couple. But in this one instance,
Speaker 1: we were holding hands and walking up the sidewalk and
Speaker 1: at that moment I didn't even see coming someone because
Speaker 1: we were walking up the sidewalk. I still remember exactly
Speaker 1: where it was, was Main Street in Nyack, New York,
Speaker 1: and someone coming down the street with full force pushed
Speaker 1: me in the chest at at such a such a
Speaker 1: level of power that it through me and I'm not
Speaker 1: a little guy. Threw me into the street, off the sidewalk,
Speaker 1: into the street, and I don't even know where it
Speaker 1: came from. And I look up and I'm looking around
Speaker 1: and it's this giant dude and then three or four
Speaker 1: of his friends, and the giant dude is screaming at
Speaker 1: the girl I was with because she broke up with him,
Speaker 1: and I guess I was the first boyfriend or something since,
Speaker 1: and he was so enraged just seeing me holding her hand,
Speaker 1: and I thought that was it. I thought I was
Speaker 1: gonna get beaten to death, like like a soprano scene. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: the girl I was with basically screaming at him, what
Speaker 1: are you doing? Why are you doing this? And then
Speaker 1: his buddies, who had a chance, had a choice to
Speaker 1: make that one moment, and it was. It turned out
Speaker 1: to be a key thing in my life. They could
Speaker 1: have stopped me into into unconsciousness, or they could have
Speaker 1: kind of gotten behind what the girl was saying and
Speaker 1: got the guy out of there. That's what happened. Otherwise
Speaker 1: I would have been dead. These guys are all big
Speaker 1: meat heads. I will never forget. It's the closest I
Speaker 1: ever came to getting an ass whopping, and I hope
Speaker 1: to never be in that situation, and I hope my
Speaker 1: sons are never in that situation because my whole life
Speaker 1: was a coin flip at that point. Yikes, it was
Speaker 1: a sucker push, is what it was. So I flip flop.
Speaker 1: I jumped up and I was like, what's going on?
Speaker 1: I did the old like what's up with this? But
Speaker 1: I knew I was dead. The guy one on one
Speaker 1: would have taken me out, and he had three of
Speaker 1: his like meat head buddies. Anyway, Well, it's like when
Speaker 1: you look at the Dallas Goddard hit. It was the
Speaker 1: punch like insane. I don't know what was going on
Speaker 1: in that bar beforehand or um who I know in
Speaker 1: South South Dakota, no one's wearing a mask apparently, but
Speaker 1: they were all swilling beers and having a good old time.
Speaker 1: When they say he was there with um his family,
Speaker 1: I I don't know. I didn't see moms and aunts there,
Speaker 1: but I don't know what family members it was. Well,
Speaker 1: we'll wait for more tape. Hey, Patrick, you're not your
Speaker 1: uncle is married to your aunt. Okay, we have another aunt.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you, Patrick. I'ming on person, Dan, look
Speaker 1: at me, Look at me and trouble on the ropes again.
Speaker 1: Get another push right to the center of the chest
Speaker 1: into the street, the old zeuser, Patrick claybron We wish
Speaker 1: you could stay on for the whole show, but we
Speaker 1: really did dilly dally today and then we got that
Speaker 1: huge news from the Messenger which further threw us off schedule. So, uh,
Speaker 1: we wish you had you for the whole show, but
Speaker 1: we'll take what we had today, which was the news
Speaker 1: and you brought it as always, you said it all.
Speaker 1: I appreciate it, guys, appreciate you always. Goodbye. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell at least our listeners Clay Bank can leave, but
Speaker 1: they should check out the video that he posted over
Speaker 1: the weekend. He's an editor now too. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you guys saw that on like a ten minute video.
Speaker 1: He said a lot of people have been asking for
Speaker 1: his um thoughts over the last couple of weeks, over
Speaker 1: and then, in his words, last you know about what's
Speaker 1: happened the last couple of weeks and five years, and
Speaker 1: he edited a video all voiced and written by him.
Speaker 1: It's about ten minutes long. I think he has it
Speaker 1: put it on YouTube. It's on Twitter too. It's worth
Speaker 1: checking out. Alright, make sure you check that out. I
Speaker 1: will be checking that out. All right, There goes Patrick.
Speaker 1: That's what's happening in the news. I will never forget that.
Speaker 1: It was like the force of the earth had crashed
Speaker 1: into my chest. I think it's good to go through
Speaker 1: something like that, though. I mean, you don't want to
Speaker 1: suffer um permanent peril. But you know, shake you shake,
Speaker 1: you shake the cobwebs out a little bit, as the
Speaker 1: old football a coach used to say, I could have
Speaker 1: used the kiwi in that situation. Ricky, You ever get
Speaker 1: you ever get mixed up in some type of girl
Speaker 1: fight or guy fight. Never a girl fight. But I
Speaker 1: did get punched in the head by a dude at
Speaker 1: a frat party once, you know, But it sucker. It
Speaker 1: was sucker punched. I was like, we were going into
Speaker 1: the frat because one of my friends like was in
Speaker 1: the frat, so we would skip the line and like
Speaker 1: all the girls and they're like little skirts out in
Speaker 1: the winter like trying to get in. We just like
Speaker 1: walk right by them to get in, and then these
Speaker 1: two dudes tried to like jump in with us to
Speaker 1: come in, and then two of the frat dudes were
Speaker 1: like hey, bro, like you're not with them, and then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, one of them swung over me
Speaker 1: and one of my friends and the next thing I know,
Speaker 1: there was like ten frat guys in this little foyer
Speaker 1: and I like got like slammed in the head, and
Speaker 1: I was like, how did I just get punched? Like
Speaker 1: going to my friend's room? But I did. Dan, You
Speaker 1: noticed that, um Greg says nothing because he was in
Speaker 1: a friend and he's like, that's just the life, Like
Speaker 1: you know, you're living that frat life back the same thing.
Speaker 1: I wasn't in one, so I couldn't tell you what
Speaker 1: goes gone behind closed doors. But that's the cost of
Speaker 1: doing business, isn't it, Greg? And I would never it
Speaker 1: would never occur. That's that's shaneful. Yes, all right, let's
Speaker 1: move on, uh, Greg, Mark Sessler wrote a banger. It's
Speaker 1: it's not yet up on the website, but I'm sure
Speaker 1: if you if you're listening to this on Tuesday as
Speaker 1: opposed to the original taping date of Monday, it should
Speaker 1: be up on the old dot com. It is your
Speaker 1: favorite broadcasting teams of all time. And that's a good one. Mark.
Speaker 1: And I read the copy and I could tell. I
Speaker 1: could always tell, Mark, with you and you're writing, so
Speaker 1: you're such a gifted writer, but I beyond just your
Speaker 1: ability to string together sentences and uh put pages out
Speaker 1: as the Great day of Damage, I would say I
Speaker 1: could tell when you're passionate about what you're writing about.
Speaker 1: In this case, I could feel it you're into this assignment,
Speaker 1: which makes for an excellent piece. Well, I mean, I
Speaker 1: think you guys, I don't. We've never really talked about this,
Speaker 1: but half our job, we're part of our job is writing,
Speaker 1: and like, UM, I felt like a little guilty almost
Speaker 1: this offseason because so we've all been doing a lot
Speaker 1: of writing, but I I just have not. I feel
Speaker 1: like writing with kids around. And UM there's this thing
Speaker 1: that I see on YouTube and it's this like acclaimed
Speaker 1: UM writer. I don't know who it is because I
Speaker 1: never track it close up, and he says the key
Speaker 1: to writing is avoiding interruptions. And we're writing during a
Speaker 1: time when you're getting interrupted like every four or five
Speaker 1: seconds by a small person or someone in your house
Speaker 1: needing something, and so stringing together these articles have has
Speaker 1: been a chore. This is the one that I asked
Speaker 1: for UM the rare like one day extension on because
Speaker 1: I wanted to not I felt at one point I
Speaker 1: just felt like I had not I had hit like
Speaker 1: C minus territory. And I'm not saying it's Risen above that,
Speaker 1: but like you ever just need an extra day to
Speaker 1: put a little bit more of yourself in different um
Speaker 1: And so I turned it in feeling like this is
Speaker 1: one of the few that I care about the topic
Speaker 1: I know you guys care about I've were talk to
Speaker 1: people about announcers more than with you two and West
Speaker 1: than anyone, so I know you care about it too.
Speaker 1: And um, I this is my list. I would love
Speaker 1: to hear guys that maybe are on here or not
Speaker 1: that you like to Well, yeah, where where do you
Speaker 1: want to start on this mark? Because you you listed
Speaker 1: what was the list was the number of teams, So
Speaker 1: it's ten doos and it's not. You always have to
Speaker 1: make it like clear and like a billion size folded font.
Speaker 1: It is not my list of the ten best. It's
Speaker 1: a couple on here, totally different. But I'll start with
Speaker 1: somewhere that maybe goes a little bit um when I
Speaker 1: got into football in the like eighties, six, eighties seven,
Speaker 1: really deep into it, maybe a little bit before your time,
Speaker 1: but you certainly know these guys like because they were
Speaker 1: around Don Crickey and Bob Trumpy to me. Um, to me,
Speaker 1: they were the voices of the old a f C
Speaker 1: Central And I mean they covered the a f C
Speaker 1: exclusively for NBC back when they had that contract, that
Speaker 1: that was their deal in their conference. And I just
Speaker 1: think that Don Crickey, when I'm starting to fall in
Speaker 1: love with the idea of broadcasting. I was like the
Speaker 1: nerd that would walk around with like UM in my wallet,
Speaker 1: likes you know, pro Set put out these football cards
Speaker 1: that branched into all sorts of things, and they had
Speaker 1: announcer cards, and I would just like have announcer cards
Speaker 1: in my wallet because I thought, this is what I
Speaker 1: want to do. But I would take the old VCR
Speaker 1: and tape Cricky and Trump. He's um announcing a Browns
Speaker 1: games and Bengals games and all sorts of stuff from
Speaker 1: the A s C. And I thought that Crickey, who
Speaker 1: was a announced football for forty seven consecutive years from
Speaker 1: sixty seven to two thousand and thirteen, is one of
Speaker 1: the more unheralded play by play guys out there because
Speaker 1: he wasn't you know what I cannot stand is the
Speaker 1: robotic play by play guy that has zero personality. And
Speaker 1: and I think because some of the schools churning these
Speaker 1: people out, you get a lot of that. They're technically proficient,
Speaker 1: but there's nothing behind the robotic, perfect voice. Cricky brought that,
Speaker 1: and he and Trump, he were a perfect pair. And
Speaker 1: I think West would have a lot to say on
Speaker 1: this because Trump Trump he is the old um since
Speaker 1: you guy from the Bengals. He he had incredible Bengals
Speaker 1: knowledge and Trump he just would get on these um
Speaker 1: He would get very agitated during games. He would see
Speaker 1: something that the team was doing that they didn't correct
Speaker 1: at halftime. And you know, he didn't just go in
Speaker 1: with one of these I've got four or five points
Speaker 1: I want to make about the Jets, and no matter
Speaker 1: what happens in the game, that's the points I'm gonna make.
Speaker 1: He would let the game wind on and get super
Speaker 1: charged up about what he was seeing on the field
Speaker 1: and maximize back then um pre snap replays and stuff
Speaker 1: to make. I would really learn from these two guys,
Speaker 1: and I'd go back and watch the broadcast over and over,
Speaker 1: and they had a huge impression on me on what
Speaker 1: a duo meant when you had people announcing where they
Speaker 1: fit together and you couldn't imagine them with with anyone else.
Speaker 1: Qrickie is one of those guys. I almost feel bad
Speaker 1: that and this is it's unfair that sometimes you remember
Speaker 1: the end of the career and in your right those
Speaker 1: those days thinking back that that a f C. I
Speaker 1: love the CBS package in general um back then. But
Speaker 1: I remember Crickey mostly from when I started covering the league,
Speaker 1: which is you know, oh three, and like you said,
Speaker 1: he had done it for forty seven years, and that's
Speaker 1: unfortunate because he was he was like an all time great,
Speaker 1: and that that's the reason why you can only stick
Speaker 1: around for fifty years if you're an all time great.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like Dick Stockton, who occasionally have gotten
Speaker 1: gotten on um, you know, on our podcast or whatever.
Speaker 1: But it's like the only reason he's still on after
Speaker 1: fifty years probably passed when he when he really should be,
Speaker 1: to be honest, is because he was so good and
Speaker 1: because he has made a fan of of so many
Speaker 1: people inside and outside of broadcasting. You have Al Michael's
Speaker 1: of course, who I still think is the best there is,
Speaker 1: and he's with Chris Collinsworth on NBC now of course,
Speaker 1: and Michelle Tafoya also is a part of the broadcast.
Speaker 1: He's been doing this for so long that you could
Speaker 1: pick different errors of Al Michaels and you do have
Speaker 1: that in your piece. You have the collins Worth Michael's team,
Speaker 1: but also the Michael's Gifford and Dan Dierdorf, eraw, which
Speaker 1: is really kind of in the prime of my youth
Speaker 1: watching football. Hey, Ricky, do you have the Brian Bosworth play? Uh?
Speaker 1: When Bow ran him over on Monday Nights Football And
Speaker 1: if you're in you can't wait till he leave? Third
Speaker 1: and one from the tool, here's buckdown he and Bosworth
Speaker 1: one on one and Jackson just jumps him into the
Speaker 1: end zone. I suggested handicap of eighteen how about. I
Speaker 1: like that it's kind of understated, but also that that
Speaker 1: reverberated that moment, especially when we were dealing with like
Speaker 1: a true monoculture and everyone is watching the same broadcast
Speaker 1: and there's no Twitter, and people are just plugged in
Speaker 1: to see Bosword get Bosworth get tuned up like that,
Speaker 1: Michael's call, Uh, it will always be synonymous with bo
Speaker 1: Jackson ruling the world in that moment. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I I'm glad that the clip and I don't mean
Speaker 1: to be over the harsh here, but that the clip
Speaker 1: included Michael's who is uh the best at play by play? Um?
Speaker 1: And Gifford who you know. People were hot and cold
Speaker 1: on Gifford, but Gifford to me brought this Um. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't have used the word then, but regality to the role.
Speaker 1: He was just sort of football history, um, right there
Speaker 1: in front of you, and he did Monday in a
Speaker 1: football with so many different teams. I mean, none of
Speaker 1: us saw in in real time him working with co Sell,
Speaker 1: But there are a lot of stories about when they
Speaker 1: got co Sell and Don Meredith out of the booth
Speaker 1: that when it was Michael's and Gifford together, the Gifford
Speaker 1: could kind of breathe and Um, it wasn't so much
Speaker 1: conducting a circus. But Deardorf rubbed me the wrong way.
Speaker 1: And I it's funny that, Um, I have had the
Speaker 1: same opinion of him then that I do now that
Speaker 1: I think he was a good person, and like there's
Speaker 1: nothing about I don't know anything about him personally, but
Speaker 1: the humor to me, um was clunky and basic from Dierdorf,
Speaker 1: and he often just got on my nerves. And I
Speaker 1: think that's like to me, chemistry is kind of rings
Speaker 1: through each of my picks. Here, Gifford and Michaels had it.
Speaker 1: Deardorf was fine and he did things well, but there
Speaker 1: were oftentimes when I wondered why the three man booth
Speaker 1: had to exist that I think they're very challenging, and
Speaker 1: unless you've not the three man booth out of the
Speaker 1: park UM, it can be problematic. In this case, two
Speaker 1: of the three um were perfect to me, So three
Speaker 1: man booths with like Buck Aikman and Collinsworth. I actually
Speaker 1: really liked that booth for the most part, Collinsworth and
Speaker 1: Aikman together, but it's like, ultimately they're both better apart.
Speaker 1: I always like kind of the early Collinsworth. UM, you know,
Speaker 1: his his tracker. I think he was with NBC at
Speaker 1: when he moved around. He was NBC and then Fox
Speaker 1: and then then back to the NBC. UH. He was
Speaker 1: always one of my favorites. And then it's hard to
Speaker 1: not have these convos without talking Madden in Summer All
Speaker 1: because to me, that was it. I mean it's not
Speaker 1: just you know, some are all in in the style,
Speaker 1: but it was the love of the game that Madden,
Speaker 1: in his enthusiasm that he had. That to me, is
Speaker 1: the best part of any announcer. You got to have
Speaker 1: the knowledge, but you have to have the love. And
Speaker 1: that's why Romo reminds me so much that John Madden
Speaker 1: is like I read all of John Madden's books as
Speaker 1: like a ten year old, just because John Madden seemed
Speaker 1: like so enthusiastic and so understandable that he made you
Speaker 1: love the sport like as much as he did. And
Speaker 1: I love announcers, even if they're not like the cleanest
Speaker 1: or even if they lack a little knowledge, you can
Speaker 1: make up. You can make up for it with like
Speaker 1: enthusiasm and love for the game. They were a unique
Speaker 1: to team too when you think about it, And maybe
Speaker 1: you guys can point one out that I'm missing, but
Speaker 1: some are all was an NFL great in his own right. Um,
Speaker 1: he played in the league and he was the play
Speaker 1: by play guy, so you had a play by play guy,
Speaker 1: and some are all who went back years as a
Speaker 1: player and uh, you know, lived and breathed the sport.
Speaker 1: Madden obviously one of the great coaches of all time
Speaker 1: and had that gift for gab. And you said that chemistry,
Speaker 1: it's all about chemistry. Everything's about chemistry, whether you're talking
Speaker 1: about uh in the booth, doing a podcast, um, a
Speaker 1: radio show. Uh, in so many things in life, but
Speaker 1: especially in this business. And I always think about I'll
Speaker 1: never um not get a kick out of the little
Speaker 1: inside joke that some are all and Matt and had
Speaker 1: between themselves about the CBS program Murder. She wrote that
Speaker 1: had a comma after murder, and then some are all
Speaker 1: always just to love love to put an extra pause
Speaker 1: in there to represent the comma, and he did it
Speaker 1: for nobody else but from that and because there were
Speaker 1: two buddies who just it was like, we have that
Speaker 1: on our show, a bunch of inside jokes that sometimes
Speaker 1: bubble up on the service and the broadcast and sometimes
Speaker 1: they don't. But let's listen a little bit. X I.
Speaker 1: I love hearing some are all doing his murder. She
Speaker 1: wrote sixty minutes we'll be coming up following football, followed
Speaker 1: by Murder. She wrote, we have bets on how long
Speaker 1: it's gonna be between Murder and she And because I
Speaker 1: love it, I think, you know, like, well one thing
Speaker 1: I was gonna say that, I mean, can you if
Speaker 1: someone said that, you just said, any moment um in
Speaker 1: your head, think about the voice of Pat Summer all
Speaker 1: you could do it. And another guy that I think
Speaker 1: of that um that I put on the list because
Speaker 1: I think radio is such a different chore and when
Speaker 1: one of the reasons that you know we can play
Speaker 1: that bow Jackson calling it you're kind of thinking there
Speaker 1: could have been more there because it's television and you're
Speaker 1: watching the images. But I I have memories, and I'm
Speaker 1: sure you guys do have, like just driving around with
Speaker 1: with my dad and listening to Jack buck Um, father
Speaker 1: of Joe buck And he was teen with Hankstram, who
Speaker 1: my memory of Hankstram is a little less defined, but
Speaker 1: they were excellent partners. And anyone who's ever worked with
Speaker 1: Jack buck talks about the fact that Jack buck Um,
Speaker 1: on top of being like literally maybe the best sports
Speaker 1: broadcaster ever, uh, would work effort, like it, tirelessly to
Speaker 1: make his partner look good. That he was the perfect partner.
Speaker 1: But his voice and like I mean, I just remember
Speaker 1: driving around, uh, you know, in the old days, listening
Speaker 1: to him announced like a Giants Packers game, and uh,
Speaker 1: it became the kind of thing where it's along the
Speaker 1: point of murder. She wrote that I loved his ad
Speaker 1: reads as much as anything else, just this iconic voice
Speaker 1: reading um, you know, copy for a can of like
Speaker 1: Campbell's soup. But then I know, and Ricky, I think
Speaker 1: we had this call to he could do the football
Speaker 1: thing too. Here is what happened when the Bills encountered
Speaker 1: the Giants in Super Bowl. No, it is no good,
Speaker 1: no laft. Yeah. He and he's like and and his
Speaker 1: son has following his footsteps. I I have so much
Speaker 1: respect for guys that do different sports because it's become
Speaker 1: more and more specialized, just like the NFL. You've become
Speaker 1: more and more specialized as a player that you don't
Speaker 1: see announcers that crossover. Jack Buck has. He's the voice
Speaker 1: of the Cardinals. He was a legend. He called Kirk
Speaker 1: Kirk Gibson's home run in the eight eight World Series.
Speaker 1: He had the Ozzie Smith touch him all Ozzy will
Speaker 1: never hit a bigger home run than that, or whatever
Speaker 1: the exact quote was. But he is a guy that's
Speaker 1: spanned across the sports. And then to me, I I
Speaker 1: have no I can't have a higher level of respect
Speaker 1: in that industry for the guy that can do it
Speaker 1: both ways, like like his son Joe, who doesn't get
Speaker 1: enough love. And you have him on the list here
Speaker 1: with Troy aikman um and his ability to seamlessly go
Speaker 1: between baseball and football. And I think he even does
Speaker 1: some golf. Now I'm not sure, but he's like one
Speaker 1: of those rare dudes too. He deserves more respect. Yeah.
Speaker 1: That reminds me of Kevin Harland too. I cheating, and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, we we all love Kevin Harland. And I
Speaker 1: cheated and looked at some old broadcast teams. I gotta
Speaker 1: remember I don't totally remember the Kevin Harland Jerry Glandfill
Speaker 1: number three uh team on Fox for like five years.
Speaker 1: But that sounds like I probably wouldn't get I wasn't
Speaker 1: getting those games, you know, because we didn't have direct TV. Um.
Speaker 1: But like, that's how long that Kevin Harland has been
Speaker 1: doing it and he can go and I think basketball
Speaker 1: might even be his best for it. That that's how
Speaker 1: good he is is he? Um? But that's like, uh,
Speaker 1: that's a memorable team. The other one, UM that I
Speaker 1: wanted to hear you talk about? Who? Who? Who else
Speaker 1: do you want to talk about? Actually, while we're running
Speaker 1: out of time, well, who do you want? Who do
Speaker 1: you want to bring up? Ron Pitts was like this
Speaker 1: one one guy always really liked and I always liked
Speaker 1: that doctors he got it. He was like he was
Speaker 1: kind of like almost the Mike Mayock of his day,
Speaker 1: who was super tape nerdy and like as just like
Speaker 1: a young fan, like he he had like the fourth
Speaker 1: or fifth team, but sometimes he'd have the Patriots games
Speaker 1: when when he was on, uh, you know the NFC.
Speaker 1: I don't know it's here, column's here column. Well, I
Speaker 1: mean I like the Ron Pitts. That's a nice callback.
Speaker 1: I the last group because I I pained over writing
Speaker 1: like the Joe buck Um Troy Akman thing, because I
Speaker 1: don't like sit around during broadcasts and like fire off
Speaker 1: tweets destroying these people. I just because I remember I
Speaker 1: had this memory of um, the first art high school
Speaker 1: at a television station that aired on like this lost
Speaker 1: cable channel out in the middle of you know, twelve
Speaker 1: people were watching it, but they had me announced um
Speaker 1: gymnastics as my first ever assignment, and like, um, I
Speaker 1: you know, waited at the bus stop with this girl
Speaker 1: named Christine Laparatti who was a gymnast, and I was like, hey,
Speaker 1: I got to announce like your meat tonight, Um, how
Speaker 1: long is it? And what I never watched him nasty?
Speaker 1: And She's like, you're in a lot of trouble, Like
Speaker 1: it's a lot of downtime. It's about four and a
Speaker 1: half hours long. And I don't have time before the
Speaker 1: bus arrives to explain everything that we do, and like
Speaker 1: it was a four hour horror show. I mean that
Speaker 1: reduced me to like, girl, look at that girl jumping
Speaker 1: over that piece of plastic. Um. She did a very
Speaker 1: nice job with that. And there's parents sitting around thinking,
Speaker 1: who is the freak sitting over there putting this on tape?
Speaker 1: Point being, I think it just embedded in me this Um,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to go out and kill announcers left
Speaker 1: and right. I don't get the hate for I can
Speaker 1: see that Joe Buck might rub people a few people
Speaker 1: the wrong way, but I just think that to Dan's point,
Speaker 1: like the idea that you're announcing like the biggest Bills
Speaker 1: football game, Um, it's hot in the middle of like
Speaker 1: late October. Then the next day yere announcing World Series
Speaker 1: Like I I don't know. He announced his first NFL
Speaker 1: game at well, I was getting sucker punched and boulder
Speaker 1: on the street. It's at So I have admiration for
Speaker 1: the fact that, like, yes, there is an element of
Speaker 1: Nepports is him that he's gonna always have to answer for.
Speaker 1: But he's not like talentless. He is extremely technically good,
Speaker 1: and so I kind of wanted to stick up for
Speaker 1: that team because I akeman. I just like having in
Speaker 1: my life, um from a football sense too. So you know,
Speaker 1: the haters go find something else to do. Matt Mellan
Speaker 1: was the guy I was, Oh, I love it. Matt
Speaker 1: Milan was the guy I was trying to think of.
Speaker 1: I love the fact that he would get the top
Speaker 1: game a lot of times at one pm and then
Speaker 1: it'd be mad and in summer all and know, even
Speaker 1: though I was like an a f C guy, it
Speaker 1: was it was milling in Stockton. And Millan is is
Speaker 1: an all time great broadcast. He really is. And so
Speaker 1: now he's doing college and like he's healthy again. It's
Speaker 1: it's too bad people kind of remember him as the
Speaker 1: GM when he was like an incredible player who was
Speaker 1: documented in some incredible books too by George Plimpton, and
Speaker 1: an incredible broadcaster. It's like that that's what he should
Speaker 1: be remembered for, all right, And let me just clean
Speaker 1: it up because I don't want to get tweets after
Speaker 1: the show. Jack Buck, Ozzie Smith home run to twin
Speaker 1: the NLCS and five go Crazy. That was his amos
Speaker 1: line in that and then Joe Carter when he had
Speaker 1: to walk off in the World Series for the Blue Jays.
Speaker 1: Touch him all, Joe, You'll never hit a bigger home run.
Speaker 1: All right, good stuff? Check it out to Mark Sessler
Speaker 1: right up on his favorite announcing teams and um, before
Speaker 1: we go, you know what we gotta do. It's that
Speaker 1: time again to spin the wheel and find out which
Speaker 1: organization gets the old Wheel of Teams treatment Erica. Um,
Speaker 1: it is that time again, so give us a spin
Speaker 1: of the wheel. M hmm, there we go, there we go. Oh,
Speaker 1: it's the Minnesota Vikings, the playoff team from a year ago.
Speaker 1: No shortage of interesting storylines around the Vikings, who are
Speaker 1: all in and looking to get back to the super
Speaker 1: Bowl for the first time since god y three something.
Speaker 1: Are on their early seventies and had to be mid
Speaker 1: seventies maybe. Um, yeah, there's a lot a lot to
Speaker 1: break down there. So we will put our heads together
Speaker 1: after the show and figure out who would be a
Speaker 1: great person to converse with on the Vikings. So check
Speaker 1: that out on Wednesday show and we dive deep on
Speaker 1: the Vikings and are continuing Wheel of Team series. All right,
Speaker 1: what do we learned to We learned that I'm going
Speaker 1: to be in the Messenger. That's huge. God, that's the
Speaker 1: first in the podcast. Got the phone call we learned
Speaker 1: in real time. Don't think that was a setup. That
Speaker 1: was completely um an authentic moment there, and we'll see
Speaker 1: if that gets me the front cover. But it sounds
Speaker 1: like at the very least I'm getting inside the pages
Speaker 1: of the Messenger, which is a dream in itself. It's
Speaker 1: just interesting because you said you wouldn't do it, but
Speaker 1: you did not bring that up to them that you
Speaker 1: wouldn't do it unless that was one of your you said,
Speaker 1: demand like requirements to do it. You are getting. That's big.
Speaker 1: The photo is big. Yeah, I need to It certainly
Speaker 1: seems to be trending in the right direction, and I
Speaker 1: have to find a way in a somewhat delicate manner
Speaker 1: to um find out about the front page. If you
Speaker 1: had done that on the podcast, that would have been
Speaker 1: one of my all time favorite. I mean, I think
Speaker 1: the content will will suggest to the editorial staff of
Speaker 1: the gate Still Messenger, No, you don't put this on
Speaker 1: B two if there is even a B section to
Speaker 1: that paper. I mean, you put it front and center
Speaker 1: of that eight page newspaper. You don't put anywhere else.
Speaker 1: You gotta deliver. I mean, you've been on the other
Speaker 1: side of it as a as a reporter, sometimes you
Speaker 1: need that subject to give you some gold. Guess what
Speaker 1: I got on the holster. I got the six shooter
Speaker 1: on the steel horse, and I got gotta change the
Speaker 1: name the slogan of the town to the spur Capitol
Speaker 1: of the world. That's like, if you need a pull quote,
Speaker 1: if you want a front page headline, you got this
Speaker 1: outside or this cowboy company from another uh you know,
Speaker 1: another town, another dusty highway, and I'm spitting that truth
Speaker 1: at them and making them change the way they think.
Speaker 1: I think that could be my ticket to the front page.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're you're a pied piper figure year and
Speaker 1: I could only imagine you, like after the interview and that,
Speaker 1: or after the papers released and people have digested the
Speaker 1: Q and A, you know, just waltzing into the local
Speaker 1: tavern and just everyone doing one of those standing emotional
Speaker 1: sort of standing ovations Dead Poets Society type thing where
Speaker 1: you've brought you've shined a light um where it's been needed.
Speaker 1: You will could be putting that with pushback that I
Speaker 1: could be I could be vilified for it. The young
Speaker 1: will the young will they will. It will resonate with
Speaker 1: the young. Al right. So that's coming up on Friday,
Speaker 1: on the same day that we are of course bringing
Speaker 1: back the Around the NFL broadcast on NFL Network. So
Speaker 1: check that out. Uh uh six pm Eastern, three pm Pacific.
Speaker 1: All right, that's it. This is Dan hands is signing
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