Speaker 1: High in. Hello football fan, your old pal Dave Damaschik here.
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Speaker 1: pro football and the game called life. Do you Around
Speaker 1: the NFL Podcast doesn't like other sports? Welcome back to
Speaker 1: another edition to the Around the NFL Podcast. My name
Speaker 1: is Dan Janzas, and I am joined by a room
Speaker 1: filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, and Greg Rosenthal.
Speaker 1: What's up, boys? Hey dude, what is happening? What is
Speaker 1: going on? Byway, that's not true that we don't like
Speaker 1: other sports? West Monster, San Antonio Spurs fan. He's a
Speaker 1: little nervous by the way to too now. I used
Speaker 1: to be a softball fan until last Thursday night. Oh wow,
Speaker 1: Oh we're going there again. I was gonna say, Mark
Speaker 1: is really the only one that doesn't like other sports.
Speaker 1: I'm jumping back. I love tennis. We've got so much
Speaker 1: available time, and you know, watching or latching onto another
Speaker 1: sport does not crack my top fifty of things I
Speaker 1: want to do during the NFL off season. It's about escapism.
Speaker 1: When you're working in a cubicle at some law firm,
Speaker 1: football as your escape. When you're covering football all day,
Speaker 1: sports are no longer what you want to escape to
Speaker 1: when you get home. Softball is supposed to be your
Speaker 1: guys escape. Well, it was an escape from fun before
Speaker 1: the team even started Thursday night, I was watching warmups
Speaker 1: and realized that my little uh diva act about the
Speaker 1: starting lineup where I was batting meant absolutely nothing. I
Speaker 1: could have batted in this game and it wouldn't have mattered.
Speaker 1: I don't know why we're talking about softball again to
Speaker 1: leave the show, but I will say it was on
Speaker 1: Sinko demyo. The game was played, and I got to
Speaker 1: the field about a half hour before is a good
Speaker 1: captain slash manager, Mr Manager, And when half my team
Speaker 1: rolled in a little woozy for first pitch, that's when
Speaker 1: I knew the game was over. Had nothing to do
Speaker 1: with the outcome they were west was with some of
Speaker 1: those people. I just want to say, that's that's my
Speaker 1: number three hitter. No, I'm not your number three hitters.
Speaker 1: So if you're not gonna put heard I might as
Speaker 1: well as well, wait and don't bury the lead here day,
Speaker 1: Reggie Jackson over here, the fearless, fearless leader on top
Speaker 1: of the team is terrible. Let's start with there. But
Speaker 1: on top of it you you come out of the
Speaker 1: game just a waste of three hours of your time
Speaker 1: with a torn hamstring. I tore my hamstring. Yeah, on
Speaker 1: the second to the last play of the game, of
Speaker 1: all things, on the groundball in the second down one
Speaker 1: six um. I had a tear in my hamstring, blood
Speaker 1: under the skin. Very disgusting, very painful. I could not
Speaker 1: bend down all weekend, which made Mother's Day on Sunday
Speaker 1: a lot of fun. When you're you're a big part
Speaker 1: of Mother's Day and west one day you will learn
Speaker 1: the same thing is you're supposed to kind of pick
Speaker 1: up the mantle of almost both parents. You're supposed to
Speaker 1: be the one doing the heavy lifting the least and
Speaker 1: let and let mom enjoy her day. Is certainly does
Speaker 1: deserve it. We have we're all very lucky to have
Speaker 1: great wives. But that's very hard to do when you
Speaker 1: have a two almost a two year old and a
Speaker 1: torn hamstring trying to run around, bend over he's asking
Speaker 1: for you to pick him up every like thirty one seconds. Uh,
Speaker 1: just a total the total misery show for the old
Speaker 1: Zuser on Sunday, let the record show in a game
Speaker 1: which we had no chance to win, down at least
Speaker 1: fifteen runs, the old Zuser was hustling down the first bason. Literally,
Speaker 1: if I had to make a list of the ten
Speaker 1: stupidest things I've ever done, it was busting it down
Speaker 1: the first base line, down one six in the last inning.
Speaker 1: Two spots up on that list, forming the softball team
Speaker 1: to begin with, I saw the sniper up in the
Speaker 1: trees when you went down like a sack of potabo,
Speaker 1: I didn't go quite. I almost went collapse, which it
Speaker 1: would been even more tragic. But two big signings by
Speaker 1: the Way softball team. We have some issues on the
Speaker 1: on the female side of the ball. Uh not pointing fingers,
Speaker 1: but we need to to juice up the roster on
Speaker 1: that side. Two big signings over the weekend. So we'll
Speaker 1: see if it makes a difference. And we'll keep you
Speaker 1: guys track, uh, you know, keep you guys up to date.
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people are interested. And before
Speaker 1: you write it off, mark or only one in one.
Speaker 1: I believe that's a ton of work this weekend in
Speaker 1: a behind the scenes scouting project that someone else can
Speaker 1: take credit for when it works. Your due diligence, Your
Speaker 1: due diligence is something to behold. I would just say,
Speaker 1: anyone on the roster, male or female, that continues to
Speaker 1: not perform, we've got other options. Absolutely, today's podcast, um
Speaker 1: is a solid one. I'm going to give it a
Speaker 1: pre show grade of a B plus. That's like your
Speaker 1: default pre show, steady pre show. I mean, if it
Speaker 1: was less than a B plus, I'd be worried about
Speaker 1: the direction of the show in general. But I'm proud
Speaker 1: of the show, and I believe every show has the
Speaker 1: potential to be a an A. But it's got to
Speaker 1: start somewhere, and that's B plus. And what we're gonna
Speaker 1: do today, I'm great. Yeah, I'm fantastic. You're watching some
Speaker 1: tennis on Mother's Day. That's kind of cheating. What do
Speaker 1: you mean, not at all? You're watching the Spanish Open?
Speaker 1: I heard what are you talking about it? On Mother's Day?
Speaker 1: Is there a Spanish Open? Uh? Madrid? You know? Wrapped up?
Speaker 1: I watched Saturday, some good some good actions Saturday. That
Speaker 1: was not Mother's Day though. Yeah. Um, well, good to
Speaker 1: see you. A good topic today, we're this segment. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be a segment called over under on rookies and
Speaker 1: using one of those what are they called amber sands
Speaker 1: ampersand amber sand emper amper sand old place old faces
Speaker 1: slash new places. So we're gonna we're gonna take all
Speaker 1: the rookies, all the guy veterans that are in new places,
Speaker 1: and I will throw out some over unders on their
Speaker 1: production in the twenty six season and we'll see where
Speaker 1: we all come down. And and you guys are always
Speaker 1: welcome to throw in some of your own. Uh. So
Speaker 1: that's gonna be fun. News is fun too. There's always
Speaker 1: a ton of stuff to talk about in the end
Speaker 1: of the even in this quiet time. So why don't
Speaker 1: we get to it? Uh, the irishman behind the glass?
Speaker 1: How you doing, buddy, I'm doing great? Great? Would you
Speaker 1: mind if we started the news? Of course? You know
Speaker 1: you're a line. I think you're great. You're my best friend.
Speaker 1: Anybody you've lost me on that one. It's usually the office, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that would be my guess, but I don't. Is it
Speaker 1: the office? Yeah, it's Michael the Toby is it late period?
Speaker 1: Office season five? All right? So you're still leaning a
Speaker 1: little on the late side, dude, I want five? Come on, man,
Speaker 1: that the other one was like eight that I did.
Speaker 1: So let's if we're gonna use all right, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: make a rule here, and you know I love your
Speaker 1: work behind the glass and I don't follow your rules.
Speaker 1: But go on listen. You won't work here anymore. Um,
Speaker 1: I won't after October anyway. Well, I will shut you
Speaker 1: down completely, irishman. If you don't listen to me right now.
Speaker 1: Season one through three of the Office is the only
Speaker 1: drops you're allowed to use. I don't want to be
Speaker 1: this guy, but I gotta be, because Mark, you know
Speaker 1: anything past season four, it's a night. I agree with
Speaker 1: you on this whole, total case study in our nation's
Speaker 1: inability to cut a show off when they should. That's fair,
Speaker 1: complete inability to do that like Friends after the first
Speaker 1: four episodes, you know, West, you're showing your age there.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, it's not Mash. I don't even due all right, okay, Brandon,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Oh, it's just you know, it might be
Speaker 1: a millennial thing, like they thought The Office was a
Speaker 1: show that should be looked at as a as a whole.
Speaker 1: But let's you know, I'm gonna look. Greg wants us
Speaker 1: to get into the news. I just well, because I'm
Speaker 1: not allowed to share my opinions, which is like the
Speaker 1: office in general. Well a, you just did well, I know,
Speaker 1: but you guys, I've made I've made that. No Martyr Rittie.
Speaker 1: No one wants to hear that. I just called the
Speaker 1: back end of the show a waste of time. So
Speaker 1: that's okay if you didn't like it that much. I
Speaker 1: mean I watched it a couple of seasons and that
Speaker 1: was that was good. That was enough. I liked hearing
Speaker 1: your opinion on it. Greg. Wow, this is a new turn.
Speaker 1: Greg's not allowed to give his apparently. Let's get going
Speaker 1: with Sam Bradford, who uh you know, he sent his
Speaker 1: his agent out to do a lot of dirty work
Speaker 1: in the last few weeks, calling up any radio station
Speaker 1: that would have him to uh, to spread the word
Speaker 1: that Sam Bradford did not want to be in Philadelphia anymore.
Speaker 1: He wanted to be with the team that saw him
Speaker 1: as a long term solution. But guess what, Mark Sellen,
Speaker 1: he didn't have any leverage Sam Bradford. So guess what
Speaker 1: he has to get to work? So. NFL media insider
Speaker 1: Ian Rapp Report reported that Bradford officially returned to the
Speaker 1: Eagles facility Monday morning. Um we did. We then saw
Speaker 1: some clips online and on Twitter of Bradford in action.
Speaker 1: So he is back. Uh. He released a statement, I'm
Speaker 1: excited to be back on the field today with my
Speaker 1: teammates and coaches. The business side of football is sometimes
Speaker 1: a necessary consideration. Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: Greg your thoughts, None of this mattered. I didn't have
Speaker 1: that big of a problem with him doing it ahead
Speaker 1: of time. He was trying to exercise the little leverage
Speaker 1: that he could to see if he could be the
Speaker 1: starting quarterback of the Broncos. That's basically what Ian Rapp
Speaker 1: Report reported today. I mean, they were hoping that something
Speaker 1: could work out for Denver. It didn't work. He should
Speaker 1: have just returned immediately after the draft when he realized
Speaker 1: it didn't work. He waits a week, He missed a
Speaker 1: couple of meaningless weeks, and he'll be their starter week one.
Speaker 1: I'm so sick of everybody trying to exercise whatever's can't
Speaker 1: leverage they have, Yeah, instead of doing the common sense thing.
Speaker 1: The guy has been the most overpaid player in football
Speaker 1: since he entered the league. He's about the best quarterback
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Go compete. I'm sorry, I I agree
Speaker 1: with that vantage point too. Like I totally understand everyone
Speaker 1: that has a big problem with it. I'm coming at
Speaker 1: it more that it's not gonna end up impacting the
Speaker 1: Eagles at all, that he's going to be their starter.
Speaker 1: I'd be really surprised if he was one of the
Speaker 1: quicker he'll turns by the not a star player, but
Speaker 1: a well known quarterback that we've seen. Because even if
Speaker 1: he was massively underwhelming with the Rams, there was a
Speaker 1: lot of optimism that he could have some sort of
Speaker 1: a comeback story and tell a nice tale last year,
Speaker 1: at this time, last August. You know, so at this
Speaker 1: point now, the minute that statement came out, all it
Speaker 1: was was panned and snark and people just shooting it
Speaker 1: down and seeing him as completely insincere. He was in
Speaker 1: a bad spot if he didn't battle this situation. But
Speaker 1: he looks just like a bad teammate at this point
Speaker 1: to a lot of people. All Right, he could not
Speaker 1: have done more in in quicker time to get I mean,
Speaker 1: nothing happened, Nothing could have gone any worse in this scenario,
Speaker 1: he basically just annoyed the entire city of Philadelphia and
Speaker 1: got absolutely nothing out of it. Uh you know it's
Speaker 1: uh the quiet time of the year when there's a
Speaker 1: star player saying he can defy the odds and play
Speaker 1: to an age that no one has ever thrived that before.
Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson was that guy. An interview with Monday Morning Quarterback,
Speaker 1: he said that he he's thirty one years old now
Speaker 1: coming off a rushing title, he believes he can play
Speaker 1: at a high level until he's forty years old. Peterson
Speaker 1: also had to say this about his team in the
Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings, who of course won um double digit games
Speaker 1: and made the playoffs last year. We are going to
Speaker 1: have a good chance to win it this year. Win everything,
Speaker 1: he told Peter King. Sit back and watch, Sit back
Speaker 1: and watch. You can be like I thought you guys
Speaker 1: were at least a couple of years away. Nope, you
Speaker 1: sit back and watch this year, guys, West what is
Speaker 1: more likely that Adrian Peterson is a productive running back
Speaker 1: at age forty where the Vikings win the Super Bowl
Speaker 1: this year. Vikings win the Super Bowl this year is
Speaker 1: either likely no, Is it just me? Or does it?
Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson tell this story to Peter King every year. Now, Well,
Speaker 1: he always says he's gonna play the forty. He always
Speaker 1: says he's gonna run, gonna break Emmitt Smith Vicker, this
Speaker 1: is like the same story every offseason. I'm gonna play
Speaker 1: forever the Vikings, I don't know. I'm just not sold
Speaker 1: on their quarterback. And unless you have the Denver Broncos defense,
Speaker 1: you're not winning the Super Bowl without a high end quarterback.
Speaker 1: Big year for Teddy Bridgewater, obviously, Adrian Peterson thinks a
Speaker 1: lot of him uh to think that they have a
Speaker 1: chance to really surprise people and go deep in the
Speaker 1: playoffs and win it all. But he really needs to
Speaker 1: take that next step. Maybe what they did by going
Speaker 1: and getting Treadwell on offense that will make a big difference.
Speaker 1: Adding Treadwell to Stefan Diggs and their white Out Corps.
Speaker 1: I think they'd be on the list of ten teams
Speaker 1: that could win a Super Bowl this year, at the
Speaker 1: back end of that list, but I put them on it.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's been much more surprising Super Bowl champions
Speaker 1: than them. I think going into a season I don't
Speaker 1: like to coach a lot, they would be at the
Speaker 1: very back end of that list for me. And when
Speaker 1: it comes to Peterson, I I'll believe that of all
Speaker 1: the running backs we've seen, he's the chance to play
Speaker 1: deeper in his career and still be productive. But the
Speaker 1: history is not on your side. The list of thirty
Speaker 1: plus age running backs that have even had a thousand yards,
Speaker 1: it's very slim. I think the odds are he's gonna
Speaker 1: end up being the greatest old running back in NFL,
Speaker 1: the title which now is held by John Riggins Larry's on.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think that guys that had big mid
Speaker 1: thirties didn't they use It's like Emmett Smith had some
Speaker 1: thousand John Henry Johnson, old Steelers running back, I believe great.
Speaker 1: I believe my boy Curtis Martin is the oldest player
Speaker 1: to win a rushing title at age thirty two. So
Speaker 1: it's these guys fall off very This is a big
Speaker 1: year for Adrian Peterson because you don't know how much
Speaker 1: longer he'll be a P, even if he thinks he
Speaker 1: will be a P forever. Speaking of a player that
Speaker 1: fell off. Peyton Manning tough a year final year in
Speaker 1: the league. But you know, feel better with that Lombardi
Speaker 1: tro if you're in the Super Bowl ring. Now he's
Speaker 1: out of the league retired of course. Uh scheck O
Speaker 1: is a sandwiches. Has anybody heard a peep from Shack
Speaker 1: about because he said that uh Manning would have a
Speaker 1: front office job by the draft cost himself three sandwiches?
Speaker 1: Have not heard anything from might be the biggest sandwich
Speaker 1: kind of sour that we know. So I would hope
Speaker 1: we gotta truck. He's going to be high levels. Look,
Speaker 1: I haven't even getten mind, I haven't even gotten mine
Speaker 1: too that I won from him last year. All right, oh,
Speaker 1: little debbut that might be ground to take away this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we might have to get Scheck in here to talk
Speaker 1: about this situation that's brewing. But anyway, so Peyton Manny
Speaker 1: has time on his hands, is what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 1: And Barry Jackson of the Miami Herald reports that Peyton
Speaker 1: visited Dolphins headquarters earlier the earlier this spring to meet
Speaker 1: with his former offensive coordinator Adam Gates, who now, of
Speaker 1: course is the coach of the Dolphins and to help
Speaker 1: instruct quarterback Ryan Tannehill. Here's a quote from Tannehill Mark Sessler.
Speaker 1: It was really cool a guy that had his career
Speaker 1: the living legend that he is, coming off a Super
Speaker 1: Bowl winning season. It was really cool just to be
Speaker 1: able to sit back and pick his brain about things
Speaker 1: he's done in this offense and football in general. Uh,
Speaker 1: do you think this could make a difference? Do you
Speaker 1: think Ryan Tannehill, a guy who's entering a if listen,
Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater is entering a huge year. What does that
Speaker 1: mean for Ryan Tannell's even begger? What would this help him?
Speaker 1: I think if he if it blooms into the situation
Speaker 1: where Tannehill and and Manning could text back and forth
Speaker 1: during the year and you can bound stuff off him.
Speaker 1: It is a great situation. It also tells me that
Speaker 1: anyone that thinks we're not gonna see Manning for the
Speaker 1: next five ten years involved in some sort of football
Speaker 1: scenari yo, nonsense. He can't stay away from the game.
Speaker 1: But I think it's a great start because under the
Speaker 1: current cb A, these guys can't meet with their coaches,
Speaker 1: and you can't Tanniel was just sitting there waiting to
Speaker 1: get knowledge and to learn about the new scheme. This
Speaker 1: was a perfect fill in the you know, the quiet
Speaker 1: time of the year situation. Are you suggesting Adam Gaze uh,
Speaker 1: surreptitiously used Peyton Manning as a sort of coaching trojan
Speaker 1: horse and cheated. Look at you, Greg, I think you're
Speaker 1: suggesting that. I think if God use a trojan horse
Speaker 1: and thank you. But I'm a Dolphins fan. My favorite
Speaker 1: part of this story is that Adam Gates carries that
Speaker 1: much respect with Peyton Manning that he can just be Yeah,
Speaker 1: those two were so tight though. I mean we about
Speaker 1: reading between the lines as well. And Kevin Patra pointed
Speaker 1: out and his right up on this, Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: if we don't see Peyton Manning working with Paxton Lynch
Speaker 1: and the and the Broncos, but he's down in Miami
Speaker 1: with his old boy, Adam Gaze, a little bad blood
Speaker 1: with the Denver side of things. I don't think it's
Speaker 1: bad blood. It's awkward blood. I don't know awkward blood.
Speaker 1: I don't know where it is, but I I would agree.
Speaker 1: I think Patra hit the nail on the head there.
Speaker 1: He's not helping out, he's not helping out Kubiak and
Speaker 1: the Broncos. I don't remember those stories of Manning and
Speaker 1: Gaze like texting until two in the morning about just randomly.
Speaker 1: It was almost inappropriate. But it's a good sign. It
Speaker 1: it supports something I laed uh we did. I did
Speaker 1: a post collateral benefits who had a good draft for veterans,
Speaker 1: I mean Ryan Tannehill. For for a guy who struggled
Speaker 1: last year and it's kind of in a key year
Speaker 1: of his career, they are doing everything possible to support him,
Speaker 1: whether it's draft picks, whether it's you know, just saying
Speaker 1: he's our guy. There's no question not signing any backups,
Speaker 1: getting a good coach that is a quarterback tutor getting
Speaker 1: Now you get Peyton Manning in the mix, like they
Speaker 1: are doing everything humanly possible for Ryan Tannehill to work.
Speaker 1: So maybe I shouldn't give up on him. All right,
Speaker 1: you're back up. I don't know, I I did. I
Speaker 1: did drop number one in our making believe I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm not back on which one occupies the phou your
Speaker 1: stable at Boys, Gino Smith or Ryan neither Uh. Speaking
Speaker 1: of the Dolphins, Cameron Wake has agreed to a contract
Speaker 1: extension with the team UH. The deal UH is extends
Speaker 1: him through the seventeen season, so that's two years. The
Speaker 1: deal includes ten million guaranteed, can make almost eighteen million
Speaker 1: over the next two years. Rap Sheet reported UH same
Speaker 1: Cameron Wake sneaky old by the way, sneaky old Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame UH thirty four years old coming off a
Speaker 1: torn achilles ended the season midway through UH last year,
Speaker 1: but has been one of the best pass rushers in
Speaker 1: the league when healthy UH since about two thousand ten
Speaker 1: or so, I'd say, UM, and now he sticks around
Speaker 1: with the Miami team that also, of course brought in
Speaker 1: Mario Williams. What do you guys think about this move?
Speaker 1: I think it's an example of a team that hasn't
Speaker 1: managed its cap well having to hold its nose and
Speaker 1: do something that they don't want to do. I've I've
Speaker 1: talked about how cap problems are overrated. You can always
Speaker 1: figure ways around. Well, how you figure way around him
Speaker 1: is giving ten million dollars guaranteed to a guy that's
Speaker 1: in that's coming off a torn achilles and his thirty
Speaker 1: four years old, and you and you have to put
Speaker 1: him on the team the next two years. When you
Speaker 1: have no idea if he's going to be healthy or not,
Speaker 1: but it lowers his cap number for this year, and
Speaker 1: that was what they were trying to do. Pretty damning
Speaker 1: review hard to I'm just saying, these are these are
Speaker 1: the types of things you have to do because because otherwise,
Speaker 1: like he seemed like a guy that might get cut,
Speaker 1: they're saying he won't even start and he was gonna
Speaker 1: get paid eight million dollars this year. So that's a
Speaker 1: weird it's a weird combination. We have a model for this.
Speaker 1: Robert manthis around the same age ruptures Achille ten and
Speaker 1: came back had about seven sacks, but almost a non factor.
Speaker 1: Other pay cut news Danny Ammondola UH is staying with
Speaker 1: the Patriots, but it cost him. Rap Sheet reports that
Speaker 1: the Whiteout has agreed to a restructure two year deal
Speaker 1: that will pay him seven point three five million, with
Speaker 1: another seven fifty k available and bonuses and incentives. Uh.
Speaker 1: He was initially slated to make twelve million over the
Speaker 1: next two years. UH. So it's a big haircut industry
Speaker 1: term for a guy that now was competing with UH
Speaker 1: seven eleven always opened Chris Hogan, UH, Greg your thoughts
Speaker 1: on this well, it's unheard. Well, I can't remember a
Speaker 1: guy taking a page. Can I just say, when where
Speaker 1: did this come from? That we didn't want to hear
Speaker 1: Greg's a page. I don't know what was that about.
Speaker 1: I didn't mean it do anything. It wasn't that anything
Speaker 1: you wanted to hear. I didn't want to be the
Speaker 1: third in the punch bowl telling you, guys, this show
Speaker 1: that means so much to you, that's your favorite show
Speaker 1: of all time. You've said early in the season, and
Speaker 1: then you don't want to be the guy who's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not It was minutes before the episode when I
Speaker 1: had suggested a book for people to read, and Greg
Speaker 1: basically just said, NAT, don't waste your time, dumb book,
Speaker 1: and like I so that it was like in real time,
Speaker 1: like five minutes later he'd had to well and in
Speaker 1: a show that you love, and suddenly he's playing, well, well,
Speaker 1: we have a little bit of context. I didn't know
Speaker 1: that had not forgot it my wrong. I grant Also,
Speaker 1: you said immediately after that, oh, no, don't don't worry.
Speaker 1: I was like, I feel, you know, I could care
Speaker 1: less what you think about the book, but that when
Speaker 1: you start to piece together history. You're you're reigning on
Speaker 1: everyone's parade. Probably the problem part of the book problem,
Speaker 1: by the way, not to sidebar too far. Everyone gets
Speaker 1: all excited, everyone gets on these group texts of oh
Speaker 1: we're starting a book club. Everyone read this book, like
Speaker 1: we're reading it right now. Is like, all right, I'm
Speaker 1: not going to get left out of this book thing.
Speaker 1: I love books. So I drop a book i'm in
Speaker 1: love with to crank through Libra by DeLillo, which was
Speaker 1: a slog thinking I'm falling behind, and I'm like, you know,
Speaker 1: I see the text book. Oh it's like six months later,
Speaker 1: no one's read the book except for Gonzo John Gonzalez,
Speaker 1: at least for me, reality said, and I got the book,
Speaker 1: and then I realized that between work and trying to
Speaker 1: maintain a marriage and a young child, that Don de
Speaker 1: Leo's book is not high up on the all understandable.
Speaker 1: I'll understand. I'm powering through, trying to get it done
Speaker 1: in like ten days or so, because I could again
Speaker 1: with the martyr scenario, you and I, poor Gregg has
Speaker 1: to read a book. You and I have total opposing
Speaker 1: views on books. My philosophy is life's too short to
Speaker 1: stay with a bad book. You've got a hundred other
Speaker 1: books that could interest you. Think, by the way, not
Speaker 1: a book. It's not a bad vigorous intellectual discipline in
Speaker 1: staying with a book, seeing it all the way through,
Speaker 1: even if it doesn't move themselves. As a team player,
Speaker 1: it was part of the book club. I didn't want
Speaker 1: to let the team down. Me me, me, it's about me,
Speaker 1: that's it. I didn't think it was that bad book.
Speaker 1: It is widely as people is a master work. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you don't like it, that's your opinion. Good for you.
Speaker 1: Oh Amndola, who even cares about this guy? No, I'm
Speaker 1: just it's a reminder of how bad the owners and
Speaker 1: teams have players over a barrel in contracts. The Amundla,
Speaker 1: who was a big part of them winning the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl two years ago, ended up taking pay cuts in
Speaker 1: back to back season, which is unheard of, and yet
Speaker 1: you never see them just offer Julian Edelman a nice
Speaker 1: big bump after they get him signed to a wildly
Speaker 1: underperforming contract. But if Amon Dola's worse than you thought
Speaker 1: he was gonna be, take a pay cut or you're
Speaker 1: taking a hike. Well your point on Edelman as well said,
Speaker 1: but I think I I look at this like Am
Speaker 1: and dol and the Patriots used common sense. Am and
Speaker 1: Doula isn't good enough to make five or six million dollars.
Speaker 1: He's a very good second, third receiver, fourth fiddle in
Speaker 1: your offense. But he should be. He's a guy who
Speaker 1: should be making two and a half to three million.
Speaker 1: And they found common ground and everybody wins. And if
Speaker 1: he stages some sort of you know scenario where doesn't
Speaker 1: want to stay and he ends up on the open market,
Speaker 1: he's not gonna make what he's making now with the Patriots.
Speaker 1: UH to two more quick notes before we UH and
Speaker 1: today's news segment. Congratulations to Antonio Crimarti and his wife
Speaker 1: Tarika or Terraka probably a Terrika because that's too close
Speaker 1: to Terrible, So it'd be to Rica have welcomed twins,
Speaker 1: the Cornerbacks eleven and twelve children after, of course, uh
Speaker 1: Terika got pregnant after Antonio's vast ectomy. Have you heard
Speaker 1: about this, Mark, Yes, I'd scare you at all, by
Speaker 1: the way, and that's you know, two kids, you're done.
Speaker 1: I would think you're I would never have that procedure
Speaker 1: done on my body to begin with, you wouldn't um
Speaker 1: the name of the baby boys, a boy and a girl. Uh.
Speaker 1: For the kid's name is Jinks. I don't know if
Speaker 1: that's tied into the vasectomy thing or no, is it?
Speaker 1: I'm not even joking. I don't think it was kind
Speaker 1: of a jinx j y n X. I don't think so,
Speaker 1: and then that would be horrible. Little girl is j
Speaker 1: j Adore. Now I'm struggling with these names Jayadore, not
Speaker 1: Navi Cremarti. So congratulations that one rolls off the tongue.
Speaker 1: He struggled to all his children during that one infamous
Speaker 1: Hard Knocks segments. So maybe he's coming up with names
Speaker 1: that are in any stay unforgettable. Twelve twelve children by
Speaker 1: eight different women. Absolutely's elite when it comes to procreation.
Speaker 1: Uh doesn't have a job either. By the way, I
Speaker 1: wonder if that's gonna the other shoe will drop there,
Speaker 1: because he still could play a little bit. Wouldn't be
Speaker 1: surprised if the Jets uh back. They've showed some willingness
Speaker 1: to not completely you know, we're there's some complaints circling
Speaker 1: around the office that are you we had to handle
Speaker 1: one or two children during Mother's Day. Well, if you're
Speaker 1: Antonio Crimardi, you're gonna be tested. All your limits will
Speaker 1: be tested, banged in a big spot. Uh. Mike Drico,
Speaker 1: it's official, leaving ESPN for NBC, one of the great
Speaker 1: play by play men of his generation. Uh. Here's the
Speaker 1: quote from Sam Flood, executive producer of NBC Sports, and
Speaker 1: I agree with every damn word. Mike is an elite
Speaker 1: talent who can contribute to all of our biggest events.
Speaker 1: There you have it, Dreco, NBC look out, Al Michael's
Speaker 1: love you, Al, love you baby, love your little Uh.
Speaker 1: You know there's subtle nods toward the gambling line at
Speaker 1: the end of each Sunday Night game sometimes of the
Speaker 1: chemistry between you and Chris. But Mike Trico ain't signed
Speaker 1: that contract to sit as somebody's backup for too long.
Speaker 1: You're absolutely this is the Packers drafting Aaron Rodgers. Well,
Speaker 1: hopefully it's a cleaner transition than that. Oh, I'm sure
Speaker 1: there would be some bad blood and your boy, a
Speaker 1: Boston product. Sean McDonough will replace Tariko and call games
Speaker 1: with Jon Gruden. Good to see him back on the
Speaker 1: big stage. Sean mcdonne is great. I mean he does
Speaker 1: college football. That's a big stage. I guess used to
Speaker 1: do the World series played by playman who Treka. Like
Speaker 1: he's solid, he's great, I'm not. He doesn't excite me
Speaker 1: like wow, like he excited. I think he's a unique talent.
Speaker 1: I agree with Dan even though he's not my of
Speaker 1: Like Greg's view of the office is how you view
Speaker 1: Mike Treko. Yes, interesting, I think I'm more. I'm higher
Speaker 1: on Mike Treco, I'm high on the office. Fine. If
Speaker 1: if Greg was sitting in a board room in two
Speaker 1: thousand five and seven out of ten, he was showing
Speaker 1: the pilot, he would have been like, nah, don't see.
Speaker 1: Did you know true fact? I worked at NBC Productions
Speaker 1: in their production office when the office was just stating
Speaker 1: and when they were making the pilot. You've done a
Speaker 1: very indirect level, you could say, I even, you know,
Speaker 1: sort of, and your bad blood towards how that opportunity
Speaker 1: ended led to how you felt about the office. It's
Speaker 1: not true at all. Just trying we can agree on
Speaker 1: one thing. Greg Sean McDonough is a solid. We hear
Speaker 1: good buzz about him. Why think we've watched them? Have
Speaker 1: we not? I mean, I don't remember anything that he's
Speaker 1: ever done, really did the Joe Carter called then yes,
Speaker 1: the Irishman And I'm just going to throw this out there.
Speaker 1: Season five of the Office had ten Emmy nominations. That
Speaker 1: means nothing. Take it up with the Academy. I will
Speaker 1: take a lot of things up with the Academy. Those
Speaker 1: awards are you could pick it up with the Academy
Speaker 1: and we'll have to put down the chisels. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: and I want to pick up an Emmy for having
Speaker 1: their back. Yeah, the same the same group of people
Speaker 1: that that believe Modern Family is forty five times better
Speaker 1: show than The Wire. All right, that's what's happening in
Speaker 1: the news, all right, as promised. Oh, we love doing
Speaker 1: over unders around here, some more than others. Greg loves
Speaker 1: doing over unders. I think we have to come up
Speaker 1: with another name for It's kind of like go get
Speaker 1: my uh sandwich. It's offensive to women. No, Well, it
Speaker 1: just you know, gets to the the nature of the NFL.
Speaker 1: I feel like, Okay, how Michael's has clever ways to
Speaker 1: come up with things we might have to We might
Speaker 1: have to come up with about high or lower? Yeah, higher, Bob,
Speaker 1: How Michael's might be available for the podcast? How about
Speaker 1: more or less for the same? Are about for now
Speaker 1: we stick with over unders and then maybe we'll think
Speaker 1: tank this over some coffee and Danish and get back
Speaker 1: to and anybody who's been asking, Yeah, spice Rack, the decision,
Speaker 1: No decision has been made. There's a tentative ban in place. Really.
Speaker 1: I got a fit teen hundred word email from the
Speaker 1: spice Rack over the week words we're gonna read that
Speaker 1: on the separate spice Rack email podcast. Did he offer
Speaker 1: any sleeper rookie candidates and that waiting? He did offer them,
Speaker 1: and he explained, or at least he tried to explain
Speaker 1: why he did not offer them on the podcast. Wow,
Speaker 1: teasing the audience, he got inside his own head and
Speaker 1: started cooking dinner up there, couldn't finish. Wow. Are you
Speaker 1: saying that maybe we should, you know, have a little
Speaker 1: leniency towards the appearance appearance given another shot? Is that
Speaker 1: where you're coming down on the l S. I believe
Speaker 1: we should, but I wouldn't want to speak for the
Speaker 1: whole group on this issue. I believe in third and
Speaker 1: fourth chances, so I would can we can we post
Speaker 1: this email somewhere we need offseason content. I feel like
Speaker 1: there's I feel like there's part of it. We can
Speaker 1: post him part of it I can't post. All right,
Speaker 1: how about this. If Spice recks listening right now, and
Speaker 1: I think he might, you can come back on the
Speaker 1: show if you allow us to publish your email in full.
Speaker 1: We really can't do that. Maybe you haven't reddit page. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we can do it on the reddit page. All right,
Speaker 1: So here's the game over unders on rookies, am person,
Speaker 1: old faces, slash new places to use that second and
Speaker 1: between old faces new places. At don't want to do it.
Speaker 1: I don't don't think it looks as good, So I'll
Speaker 1: throw out a bunch of um, you know, um really
Speaker 1: projections if you really want to get down to it
Speaker 1: on the rookie class, and also any players veteran players
Speaker 1: that have changed addresses in this offseason. Um, if I
Speaker 1: could just find my paperwork on this, and I have,
Speaker 1: and we will start with one of the more sexy
Speaker 1: names out of the draft class, Cowboys running back Ezekiel Elliott. Okay, guys,
Speaker 1: we're kind of gonna blow through these sometimes. Maybe if
Speaker 1: for something we want to talk about on about a
Speaker 1: player or team. Feel free to dig in a little bit.
Speaker 1: But here we go, Ezekiel Elliott four hundred all purpose yards,
Speaker 1: eight total touchdowns, three thirty touches. I'll go over on
Speaker 1: the yards and touchdowns over an immediate Pro Bowl type style. Well,
Speaker 1: when rookie running backs don't play, it's usually because they're
Speaker 1: lacking the fundamentals, especially pass blocking, and from all accounts,
Speaker 1: that's his specialty. Yeah. Everything we keep hearing is that
Speaker 1: he's the almost the ultimate plug in play, uh, offensive player.
Speaker 1: It's easier to transition at running back than in his
Speaker 1: other positions. And even beyond that, he is such a
Speaker 1: well polished player. Yeah, I think that's conservative. Touches is
Speaker 1: the only one that is close. I did. I did
Speaker 1: a piece trying to project that. I said three fifty
Speaker 1: something like to you know, three hundred carries fifty catches
Speaker 1: something like that. Uh, I mean, Geo Bernard's gotten twelve
Speaker 1: hundred yards from scrimmage and two of his three years.
Speaker 1: Four hundred yards from scrimmage is not a huge number. Uh.
Speaker 1: If you're getting a lot of carries and you're active
Speaker 1: in the receiving game. I'll throw it out there that
Speaker 1: they do have a guy. It was a weird year
Speaker 1: for running backs. I get it, but I think Darren
Speaker 1: mc fadden was like third in the NFL and rushing
Speaker 1: last year, third or fourth. And they have Alfred Morris
Speaker 1: who they didn't sign for no reason. So there's some
Speaker 1: there's some cooks back there, and they might want to
Speaker 1: not burn out a rookie early in his career, a
Speaker 1: guy they probably see is a ten year talent. Potentially
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go under across the board just because a
Speaker 1: why not and be you know, weird things happen in
Speaker 1: the NFL. They're not all good things, alright, predicting injuries
Speaker 1: out right now. He just didn't say injury. There's you know,
Speaker 1: who knows what could happen to the entire world. Um, alright,
Speaker 1: But at the end of UH, I didn't say I
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm just saying I'm not It's like new Star. No,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I'm gonna slow down on that. Let's
Speaker 1: see what happens. I've been wrong of the time, so
Speaker 1: this is good news for the three of you. I
Speaker 1: didn't say anything. Um, all right, here we go. Uh.
Speaker 1: In Denver, they have some interesting things going on at
Speaker 1: the quarterback position. Mark Sanchez and Paxton Lynch both new
Speaker 1: to the Broncos, so they're both tied into this and
Speaker 1: it's a simple one. Paxton Lynch Lynch seven and a
Speaker 1: half starts over under seven and a half. I'll take
Speaker 1: the over because I think it's probably closer to sixteen.
Speaker 1: I'll take the over for two words. Mark Sanchez, Okay,
Speaker 1: I think you put the number right at the right
Speaker 1: spot there. Danny, Oh. Thanks. That means a lot coming
Speaker 1: from you too, Do you know what I'm saying? Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I like I like these numbers. I would have
Speaker 1: said I think he'll come in around week seven, weeks
Speaker 1: seven or eight, so I guess that would be eight
Speaker 1: or nine starts, assuming he stays healthy. I guess I'll
Speaker 1: go slightly over. I think I think they will give
Speaker 1: a chance to Sanchez. When I was looking for when
Speaker 1: will Lynch start a game, they they have a Thursday
Speaker 1: to Monday night transition with ten days in between after
Speaker 1: six weeks, and that would set up Old Paxton for
Speaker 1: his first art to be against the Houston Oilers and
Speaker 1: brack Aswaler. Wouldn't that be something the Oilers Houston Texas.
Speaker 1: I will I will use your own logic the east
Speaker 1: torn out which I which I grew with from the past,
Speaker 1: which is week seven is a really, really long time
Speaker 1: if things are not going well in Denver, right, And
Speaker 1: it could be by the end of week two that
Speaker 1: people have had enough of Mark Sanchez and Elway has
Speaker 1: already talked about Lynch is someone that could start a
Speaker 1: lot earlier than people think. I just think it's gonna
Speaker 1: be way before weeks seven. Your logic is sound on
Speaker 1: one level and unsound on another. It's sound on multiple levels.
Speaker 1: But I will hear what you have the flannel felines
Speaker 1: to my left here less and say that's a nice shirt.
Speaker 1: I like it. H you both stepping up the clothes
Speaker 1: game in general. This plays well on an audio podcast,
Speaker 1: stepping up my game for everything? Um, alright, West down
Speaker 1: to seven Paxton Lynch, you guys think he's going to
Speaker 1: be a starter at the gate or close to it,
Speaker 1: I will say, great marks your point. Mark Sanchez could
Speaker 1: be a big problem after two or three weeks, but
Speaker 1: that to me he was the whole problem with banking
Speaker 1: on Mark Sanchez in the first place. He might be
Speaker 1: forced to go to a guy that's not ready because
Speaker 1: the guy that he brought in Mark Sanchez isn't good.
Speaker 1: It could be a messy situation. But you're you're agreeing
Speaker 1: with me, I am, but I'm saying it's because John
Speaker 1: Elway's gonna box himself in. He still has his anti
Speaker 1: Elway point and ride that, ride that one and see
Speaker 1: where that's no way was John l Way ever banking
Speaker 1: on Mark Sanchez he was starting quarterback. I have not
Speaker 1: ruled out a case Keenum or someone like him, but
Speaker 1: especially case Keenum introduction to the Broncos, whether it's in
Speaker 1: the next couple of months or it's early in training camp,
Speaker 1: I could just can't you see that happening. It doesn't
Speaker 1: mean he's gonna be starting, but maybe he'll be an
Speaker 1: option to start in the middle of I don't see
Speaker 1: it happening. For the reason why they didn't sign Horrier,
Speaker 1: because they want to give all these reps to the
Speaker 1: two quarterbacks they have. All Right, let's move down. We
Speaker 1: love talking about the a f C South now West,
Speaker 1: what do you like to call it? That the area
Speaker 1: of the football world that doesn't get enough angle of
Speaker 1: the NFL, and Nashville is in that triangle, but maybe
Speaker 1: not anymore, depending on how the season shapes up. But
Speaker 1: their new backfield um nucleus of DeMarco Murray and percent
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry. Here, we got start with DeMarco four point
Speaker 1: zero yards per carry over under. I'm not saying anything
Speaker 1: about it. His workload, no, just his yards per carry
Speaker 1: the season. DeMarco Murray. Okay, just Murray four point oh
Speaker 1: it's gonna average four yards to carry in Tennessee. It's
Speaker 1: a tough one. What was he last year? Three point
Speaker 1: six and I think he was around five the year before.
Speaker 1: That offense didn't really fit his skill set and his
Speaker 1: legs were tired from the year before. I mean, if
Speaker 1: you're buying the Titans at all, you gotta go over.
Speaker 1: I am buying the Titans. You gotta go over, and
Speaker 1: I'm going over. Then I'll go over to. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go under. I'm not really buying the Titans or Murray necessarily.
Speaker 1: The odds are guys like Murray don't really bounce back
Speaker 1: that hard. Maybe he bounces back to four oh four
Speaker 1: one and he's solid since entering the league. DeMarco um
Speaker 1: five point five, four point one, five point to four
Speaker 1: point seven and then led the league that year and
Speaker 1: then a crash down to three point six last year,
Speaker 1: so he's over five for his career. His career is
Speaker 1: at four point six last year. I really dragged them down.
Speaker 1: I mean, can we view last years in everything that
Speaker 1: could go wrong? Did situation or you could look at
Speaker 1: it's like it's coming back off of a five hundred
Speaker 1: touch season and he'll never quite be the same again. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, but I'll play two games and have four
Speaker 1: yards per carry. You often the guys with huge workloads
Speaker 1: have a horrible next season and bounce back a little bit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and now this will play into the usage Derrick Henry
Speaker 1: over under two hundred carries as a rookie under under.
Speaker 1: But if you said touches, I'd probably go I'd still
Speaker 1: go under. He wouldn't. He's not gonna have a lot
Speaker 1: of catches, is he? In general, this guy depends who
Speaker 1: you listened to. Like, the book on him from a
Speaker 1: lot of people was he's not a great receiver, and
Speaker 1: then when teams worked him out, they thought he looked
Speaker 1: like a really natural pass kid. Right, he never had
Speaker 1: a chance in college. He has almost no production in
Speaker 1: the passing game. I had him around a hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty touches. I think this is DeMarco Murray's offense, and
Speaker 1: unless it goes horribly wrong, Henry is gonna have games
Speaker 1: where he gets six carries or something like that. I
Speaker 1: mean you said two hundred rushes. I mean there was
Speaker 1: only one. Only Girly had among rookie running backs had
Speaker 1: over two hundred last year. That's safely going to be
Speaker 1: under I mean, this is the scenario where demarc Murray
Speaker 1: is the same player as he was last season. He stinks,
Speaker 1: and then the rookie shows something and starts taking over.
Speaker 1: The offense will be screaming for well. I think they'll
Speaker 1: be trying to make it work with DeMarco Murray for
Speaker 1: a large enough part of the season where it would
Speaker 1: be late in the year that he gets close. If
Speaker 1: you're Henry, I had a I had a Henry one
Speaker 1: while we're here. Oh yeah, let her might as well
Speaker 1: over under Derrick Henry's carries over under DeVante Booker of
Speaker 1: the Broncos carries. You are in love with Devontae Booker.
Speaker 1: It's a good situation. Now, I'll take I'll take Henry
Speaker 1: over Booker. Booker in Denver has a good chance to
Speaker 1: supplant c J. Anderson, according to UH, according to a
Speaker 1: lot of draft knicks. According to Daniel Deremiah thinks he's
Speaker 1: the best. Thinks he is too. But they're not running
Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos. They didn't just hand C. J. Anderson
Speaker 1: twenty million dollars. He's making five million this year. I
Speaker 1: think it would be a one in a one B
Speaker 1: where he's playing the Ronnie Hillman and or he's playing
Speaker 1: what C. J. Anderson was last year. Anderson's no sure
Speaker 1: bet to roll in top shape either. We've seen this
Speaker 1: multiple there. He was also the FCS best running back
Speaker 1: and multiple teams. You know we're trying to hire DJs
Speaker 1: because he knows people were trying to hire C. J. Anderson.
Speaker 1: Two fair alright. I have a bit of this next one.
Speaker 1: I have a bit of a um Sessler. I think
Speaker 1: Joey Bosa is gonna be a star in this league,
Speaker 1: guys and UH. I think he's gonna make an immediate
Speaker 1: impact in San Diego. So I'm gonna put his over
Speaker 1: under sacks as a rookie nine and a half. Who's
Speaker 1: coming with me? We're going out, Bob and beyond who
Speaker 1: Joey Bosa, I'm going under on sacks. I don't know
Speaker 1: if that's the position he's gonna and I don't think
Speaker 1: that's gonna rule he's gonna play. You don't think he's
Speaker 1: gonna I don't think he's gonna be like some terror
Speaker 1: off the edge rusher. Well, I take him the third.
Speaker 1: I think they're kind of hoping he is on thumb level.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go under because I think over time, if
Speaker 1: this actually was a thing that paid, you know, real money,
Speaker 1: you'd probably do well betting unders on rookies having lots
Speaker 1: of sacks. That's hard. A lot of rookies have a
Speaker 1: lot of sacks. That's all I'm saying. I'll go with you.
Speaker 1: I'm riding with the hands. I love it. And because
Speaker 1: I rode with you with p nin d X, I
Speaker 1: knew you could do it, and you really are doing
Speaker 1: a great job with it. And now you're riding with me.
Speaker 1: I will not prove you wrong. Carson Wentz and Jared
Speaker 1: goth the one and to pick UH the number one
Speaker 1: and number two overall pick in this draft golf Number
Speaker 1: one UH. They will combine for sixteen and a half
Speaker 1: starts over under sixteen and a half starts. Goff and Wentz.
Speaker 1: This is the easiest one. Over Yeah, over, way over,
Speaker 1: because golf is the over under onund golf might be
Speaker 1: sixteen injury probably about you're right? Uh, didn't you right?
Speaker 1: Didn't you right? Greg? In a piece that I read
Speaker 1: and quite enjoyed that there was a real path to
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz just staying on the bench all year because
Speaker 1: the amount of money the Eagles have invested in their
Speaker 1: quarterbacks this season. Yes, and now that Bradford is back
Speaker 1: in the mix, that seems even more possible. But that
Speaker 1: felt like a position of mind that was a little
Speaker 1: out on a limb. Probably not not everyone's expecting him
Speaker 1: to sit all year. So that's why I think it's
Speaker 1: an easy one. I think it's safe that it's over.
Speaker 1: It's I mean, you don't take these players one and
Speaker 1: two if they're not gonna play much sooner than anyone's
Speaker 1: saying I'm gonna sit for an entire year. My name
Speaker 1: is Carson Wentz. Whatever. How about a tough week? Though
Speaker 1: for Chase Montana with Sam showing back up man, it
Speaker 1: continues to make millions of dollars without actually exerting any
Speaker 1: physical effort practice. I like him a lot, but his
Speaker 1: career is beginning to look like one where he'll sit
Speaker 1: for nine and a half years. You have to go,
Speaker 1: you have to go to training camp and in practice
Speaker 1: and do all those sort of things. Well, you're right
Speaker 1: about that, Les, you got one. I have an overund
Speaker 1: over under three games before Devonte Booker becomes the greatest
Speaker 1: fourth round pick in the history of football. Wow, you
Speaker 1: just hate total shot at Greg. I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: have any great belief. If he's so great, why did
Speaker 1: he last to the fourth round. Everybody's convinced that this
Speaker 1: guy is an awesome running back and he's a fairth
Speaker 1: round pick. That's fair. Sometimes fourth round picks are good
Speaker 1: out in private, I don't. It's just it's one hyped
Speaker 1: rain West is not. I have one for you. I'm
Speaker 1: open minded too, but I just don't think, all right,
Speaker 1: ce J Anderson's the best running back in then FC
Speaker 1: down the stretch and a Super Bowl. You're a big
Speaker 1: Anderson fan, that's super Bowl hero. You're just gonna bench
Speaker 1: him for some rookie that got drafted in like picks
Speaker 1: in or whatever. I would think in a in a
Speaker 1: perfect world, if if you're believing in Booker, then Anderson
Speaker 1: gets two hundred and fifty touches and Booker gets two hundred,
Speaker 1: and it's a nice little group, that's all. It's nice
Speaker 1: to share the wealth. Or Booker is Ronnie Humman. Yeah
Speaker 1: he was drafted who really was drafted considerably higher and
Speaker 1: came with just as much pub and didn't do one thing.
Speaker 1: I found doing that running back piece. I mean, all
Speaker 1: of these fourth round, fifth round running backs were drafted
Speaker 1: into perfect situations to get touches early. So if they're good,
Speaker 1: there'll be some fourth or third rounders playing, whether it's
Speaker 1: Seattle or Kenneth Dixon in Baltimore. Uh, you mentioned the Bears.
Speaker 1: I mean there's a lot of open spots. You had one, Mark, Sure,
Speaker 1: let's let's try it out. How many times during the
Speaker 1: regular season, well, chip Kelly sneer with comprehensive disdain at
Speaker 1: a reporter responding to a fair question with a mumbled
Speaker 1: non answer. The borders psychologically on antisocial paranoia mixed with
Speaker 1: a raging sense of megalomania. I'm putting the over under
Speaker 1: its sixty seven times during the regular season that Chip
Speaker 1: Kelly refuses to treat journalists like living, breathing human being
Speaker 1: sixty seven times. What say you, Well, I need to
Speaker 1: get a little history over, and well, who was it
Speaker 1: last year? Who is keeping track of this like that?
Speaker 1: Because that's important? Well, now I will I wasn't he
Speaker 1: I don't have the official year, but I mean we
Speaker 1: have a sense. So you're saying that that's like every
Speaker 1: time he speaks. So you're saying that the person who
Speaker 1: sets up the rules of the game also gets to
Speaker 1: decide if it well, all right, we'll put a third
Speaker 1: party who has stakes at it? Put a third party
Speaker 1: at it. I don't are you talking about the Irish
Speaker 1: It sounds like would take up a lot of time anyway,
Speaker 1: So I'm happy to have someone else irishman's influence earlier today,
Speaker 1: I'm going over. I am own way over because he meets.
Speaker 1: He has to meet with the media four times a
Speaker 1: week at least during the season. Plus he got training camp.
Speaker 1: Ad that up. That's gotta be a hundred fifty times.
Speaker 1: You don't think he can resist taking shots at journalists.
Speaker 1: I think just being in the room he probably you
Speaker 1: can ring the bell from I need a little perspective.
Speaker 1: I need to know, like, what's the average amount of
Speaker 1: sneers for a coach what's considered high, what's considered low.
Speaker 1: It's got to be at the high end of this question.
Speaker 1: Seems like the smart money's on the over according to
Speaker 1: Greg's math. I have to I'm gonna hold out on
Speaker 1: this one. This feels like a trap you can't vanish.
Speaker 1: Like Howard Hughes, he's got it. He said, he's got
Speaker 1: to be out there four or five times a week.
Speaker 1: It's probably on the higher end. What basically you're saying.
Speaker 1: If you're saying under, you're saying, I believe that he
Speaker 1: comes with a different attitude because I think his his
Speaker 1: historical stats would would have gone over here and safely. Alright,
Speaker 1: A couple more from me here. The top ten guys
Speaker 1: in the draft real quick, Goff Wentz Bosa, Elliott Ramsey, Stanley,
Speaker 1: Jack Conklin, my favorite name in the draft, DeForrest Buckner,
Speaker 1: Leonard Floyd, and Eli Apple. Last year, guys, there were
Speaker 1: three top ten players that went to the Pro Bowl,
Speaker 1: Jameis Winston to Mary Cooper and Todd Gurley over under
Speaker 1: for Pro Bowl selections. And keep in mind, sometimes it's
Speaker 1: this guy called in sick, this guy lost his homework,
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. That counts go to the Pro Bowl,
Speaker 1: you go to the Pro Bowl two and a half.
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl selections under two and a half, I would
Speaker 1: out of all I've gone on under at one. I
Speaker 1: have no idea, but I don't even know how you
Speaker 1: figure it out when guy like Jamis Winston goes because
Speaker 1: thirty seven other people decided, you gotta figure Ezekiel Elliott
Speaker 1: has the best chance of the rest of the top ten.
Speaker 1: And then for everyone else that is an uphill battle
Speaker 1: to try to make the Pro Bowl. I mean it's
Speaker 1: an upbill battle for Elliott. Jalen Ramsey, I think he
Speaker 1: would be uh to me, somebody who jumps out. I've
Speaker 1: already stated that Joey Bosa could have an early breakout season.
Speaker 1: You can. This is gonna sound like I'm being sarcastic,
Speaker 1: but I'm a little surprised Brian Hoyer was not in
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl. Issue by the time everyone tell if
Speaker 1: everyone takes vacations and says, no, I'm not going. I
Speaker 1: mean they're down to the eight best quarterback I'll go under.
Speaker 1: Good question though, and one more here we go this
Speaker 1: one should this should inspire some opinions on both sides.
Speaker 1: To Lollis the last one for me. Uh. Mario Williams
Speaker 1: and Jason Pierre Paul, two veteran pass rushers that inspire
Speaker 1: a lot of opinion. We have a sandwich prop based
Speaker 1: on the only, the first ever sandwich prop that included
Speaker 1: a named judges panel. Do you remember this? Someone asked
Speaker 1: to decide who had a better season right between these two?
Speaker 1: Those two, and I didn't remember that. Yeah, I have
Speaker 1: a west, says Mario, and a three man football panel
Speaker 1: will decide. Uh. The over under is thirteen and a
Speaker 1: half sacks combined. Vegas obviously doesn't not see this that
Speaker 1: Williams will have to get at least a dozen for
Speaker 1: either player. JP the you know the glove fits. He's
Speaker 1: gonna get some sat past the quarterback. According to football
Speaker 1: the club is off. JPP is gonna be great. Mario Williams,
Speaker 1: even in a bad year, can get seven. So I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go over. I'll go over because Williams will get
Speaker 1: twelve and JPP will get as usual one, I'll go under.
Speaker 1: I think, Williams says, the chance to be a total
Speaker 1: headache if things go south. Mary Williams is playing for
Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins on his third contract that's gonna go great.
Speaker 1: Does anybody know the history of the sport? And then
Speaker 1: the guy with the finger problem, you know, got all
Speaker 1: the tools, couldn't bring guys down. I got a feeling
Speaker 1: it's gonna be way under But getting the club off
Speaker 1: is a huge thing though. That by president, I don't know,
Speaker 1: because it seems impossible to tackle someone with the club. Well,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I've never I can't wait. I'm on
Speaker 1: this panel. Who also thought it was a me marking
Speaker 1: somebody else? Is that what it was? Yeah? I don't
Speaker 1: remember being named to a panel. Maybe you weren't here,
Speaker 1: but there there was. It's on go get my lunch
Speaker 1: dot org. So I'll find it while while we're talking.
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to this panel. Can't just name someone
Speaker 1: to a panel when they're not here? Well, you don't
Speaker 1: want to be on the panel. I just want to
Speaker 1: be asked, Mark, will you be on the panel? Please? Wow?
Speaker 1: This is it's a bad It's a bad thing. When
Speaker 1: Mario Williams has already been quoted saying he's much more
Speaker 1: focused this year and he's trying like that. Those quotes
Speaker 1: always bother you because you're just calling yourself out for
Speaker 1: not being focused at off. Enough of this guy come
Speaker 1: back to us, Mario. Alright, one more from the Sizzler. Alright,
Speaker 1: I had to, but I will just use one. Here
Speaker 1: we go. How many posts? All right? The first one
Speaker 1: is quick game losing flubbed field goals by hyper controversial
Speaker 1: rookie Bucks kicker Robert Guy Guyo. I put the number
Speaker 1: at two game losing flubbed field goals. I'm giving them too.
Speaker 1: He's gonna be under the microscope, so they're gonna be
Speaker 1: two kicks that either they have a chance to tie
Speaker 1: or win the game, and he'll miss them. Bingo, I'll
Speaker 1: go under. You know what, I'm gonna say. The Bucks
Speaker 1: brain trust nailed this, and he's gonna be a sensation,
Speaker 1: so I'll say under. I don't think he's gonna be
Speaker 1: a sensation, but I also don't think he's gonna be
Speaker 1: flooding all these games, so I'll go still go under.
Speaker 1: He'll he'll be the most entertaining Bucks kicker since Martin
Speaker 1: Grammatica injured himself. So Donald, I'm hoping you're right. I'm hoping,
Speaker 1: but you if you have a feeling it's gonna be
Speaker 1: over now. No, I just think he's going to be
Speaker 1: on the radar any a lot of pressure on the
Speaker 1: young kid, exactly. All right, here we go. How many
Speaker 1: posts will the combine six A t N writers ultimately
Speaker 1: pen on any Apple between today and the end of
Speaker 1: Super Bowl fifty one. I'm putting the number at five.
Speaker 1: Take the under I think this this is like her
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes of fame. And I don't think she's gonna
Speaker 1: She's not gonna have a state. Who is writing them? Well,
Speaker 1: all six combined, all of four of us in Connor
Speaker 1: Or and Kevin Patra. I'll break this down a little
Speaker 1: bit too beyond um the that type of post would
Speaker 1: usually fall under the old zeuser's domain. But I have
Speaker 1: not been gripped by Antie apple fever. I think it's
Speaker 1: a nice little story. She's outspoken, we've done as and
Speaker 1: she's funny on Twitter and and she's had some positive
Speaker 1: network television appearances. But I have not written about her
Speaker 1: yet for a reason. I'm just not as like an
Speaker 1: amored buyer. So then somebody else has to step up
Speaker 1: to do like kind of the pop culture NFL beat
Speaker 1: on this, maybe maybe counter or I don't think Wes
Speaker 1: is writing an Apple piece. I know Market's kind of
Speaker 1: like I kind of like her. I would have written
Speaker 1: one last week interesting. We know Mark, Mark won't say
Speaker 1: it on the pod, but there's been a lot of
Speaker 1: anti Annie sentiment. Help me out. I'll stick up for Market.
Speaker 1: It has nothing to do with anti Apple. It's the reaction.
Speaker 1: It's the I would say, going overboard reaction. Well, to
Speaker 1: my point, you're not going to feed into it with
Speaker 1: more media as you know, you're probably not going to
Speaker 1: be involved. I would be hypocritical if I'm you know,
Speaker 1: antagonizing the media for too much attention than adding to it.
Speaker 1: And then it's the Boss Patrick. I've done right now.
Speaker 1: Patrick Patrick is not doing anything like that. He Patricks
Speaker 1: a wild card. Yeah, he's not a bit of a
Speaker 1: wild card. But I could also see him, you know,
Speaker 1: doing the Patrick Oh, I'm not doing this. And then
Speaker 1: there's Greg Patrick also just cranks out stories. You never know. Mark,
Speaker 1: just to update you, you are on a five person panel.
Speaker 1: You were not asked, you were assigned to the panel.
Speaker 1: Would officially like to ask you, can you evaluate whether
Speaker 1: JPP will have a better season or had a better
Speaker 1: season than Mario Williams. At the end of the year,
Speaker 1: it's you Dan conn Or, Kevin Patrick and David Eally
Speaker 1: somehow Yeah, five person panel, A lot less work attached
Speaker 1: to that. That was my main concern. I'll join that, pel.
Speaker 1: I think we needed an odd number. Yes, that's exactly
Speaker 1: what it was. And I remember that now. Well, welcome aboard.
Speaker 1: All right. So what are the anti Apple one? I'm
Speaker 1: going with? Under good for you? Yeah, under good one, Mark,
Speaker 1: I can control that, all right. That's it. Taking the
Speaker 1: desk rate it good pod guys, Solida minus um. We
Speaker 1: will be back on Wednesday with another show. Three shows
Speaker 1: this week, everybody, um, so make sure you check it out.
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Speaker 1: on Wednesday. Is Dan hands a signing off for You're
Speaker 1: quiet Storm. They're busy on the research project, Mark, the mailman,
Speaker 1: the boss and the irishman behind the glass. So Wednesday,
Speaker 1: m where are you the way that you are? Honestly,
Speaker 1: every time I try to do something fun or exciting,
Speaker 1: you make it not that way. I hate so much
Speaker 1: about the things that you choose to be h