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Speaker 1: Nicole Hardman. I mean, it's just they got a lot

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Speaker 1: of weapons. They've done a really good job of building

431
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Speaker 1: that thing. You know, they had put a lot of

432
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Speaker 1: pieces in place, and then you drop a guy like

433
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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes in there well into coach reads whatever. That

434
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:38,879
Speaker 1: was fourth fifth year of being in Kansas City and

435
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,600
Speaker 1: they sent him for a whole year behind Alex Smith.

436
00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:45,440
Speaker 1: They really did a great job of putting this thing together,

437
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:49,800
Speaker 1: and they've even had a couple of pieces since Mahomes.

438
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Speaker 1: But you know, we're in year you know, finishing up

439
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:57,080
Speaker 1: year four. Yere I don't know what year they're in, seven,

440
00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:00,440
Speaker 1: eight nine, But they've really built a great program, something

441
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,320
Speaker 1: that um, you know, teams like us would would want

442
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:06,920
Speaker 1: to model. The last thing you said, uh, the League

443
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 1: is saying that there's different protocols for scouting Senior Bowl

444
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Speaker 1: coming up this week. What can you walk through what

445
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 1: the what the protocol of the bills is regarding how

446
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,879
Speaker 1: you're going to scout in this uh virtual setting or

447
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 1: not or how are you handling that would travel and

448
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,680
Speaker 1: start with the Senior Bowl. Yeah, so, um, the way

449
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:31,280
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl worked, VIC was we were allowed ten representatives.

450
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Speaker 1: So since we played so long in this game and

451
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 1: a lot to you know, in the postseason, myself, Joe

452
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,480
Speaker 1: Dan and some guys didn't go. But our full college

453
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Speaker 1: staff is down there. Brian Gaines down there with them

454
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Speaker 1: as well, and so they're able to watch practice. They're

455
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,440
Speaker 1: having to test daily just like we did in season. UM,

456
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 1: so obviously if anyone tests positive, they have to leave. UM,

457
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 1: but they're down there for the whole week, just like

458
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Speaker 1: normal watching practice. And we'll have one or two guys

459
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Speaker 1: stay for the game and then but we'll still continue

460
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 1: to meet with these guys, our scouts coming up here

461
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:11,800
Speaker 1: in February and then there's no combine, as you guys

462
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 1: I think have heard or read. So what it's looking

463
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 1: like is we'll have to spread out on pro days

464
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 1: and that'll be our one time to see these guys

465
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Speaker 1: move around again or way or do the bench or

466
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 1: any of those of the so called underwear Olympics that'll

467
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Speaker 1: be coming up. But everything with the player will have

468
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Speaker 1: to be virtual where there's no in person workouts. The

469
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 1: only in person thing you can see is if you

470
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Speaker 1: go to their pro day and they're working them out.

471
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Speaker 1: So a lot of us going to go back to

472
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Speaker 1: the tape of the fall if they played. Obviously some

473
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Speaker 1: guys didn't play, they opted out, and we'll have to

474
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Speaker 1: look at the previous year's film. So right now there's

475
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Speaker 1: probably more guys on most teams draft boards just because

476
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Speaker 1: there's still a date of March first that some seniors

477
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Speaker 1: can go back and if they want to, they have

478
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Speaker 1: that that option to have another year due to the

479
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Speaker 1: COVID free year. So it's fluid as we go along,

480
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Speaker 1: but at least we did a lot of things virtually

481
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,639
Speaker 1: last year close to the draft, so our scouts are

482
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 1: kind of used to it, and you know, we'll manage.

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Speaker 1: You got a good see anybody, Brandon, John Warrell, how

484
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Speaker 1: are you doing? Hey John, Good to see you. Bye,

485
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Speaker 1: good to see you. Um, I'm gonna try to keep

486
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Speaker 1: it quick into two questions. A lots of pends up,

487
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Speaker 1: but I'm paraphrasing you from last year. But you said

488
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:37,680
Speaker 1: a team's deficiencies in the season, you're usually exposed come

489
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 1: the playoffs and in the playoffs loss, which is what's

490
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Speaker 1: where you arrived to get to the need to score points.

491
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Speaker 1: What did you see from the defense, perhaps from the

492
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Speaker 1: early part of the season, maybe catching up to it

493
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Speaker 1: in that loss to Kansas City, And what priorities are

494
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,679
Speaker 1: there something that you can emphasize as opposed to scoring

495
00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,639
Speaker 1: points this time around going into this office us that

496
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Speaker 1: you need to focu that you would like to focus on. Yeah,

497
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Speaker 1: your spot on John, your your last game if you

498
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 1: if you make the playoffs, barring something crazy happening with

499
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 1: some wild turnovers or something generally will tell you where

500
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,400
Speaker 1: you're short. You know, if you don't win at all.

501
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 1: And and I think you know, maybe a little bit

502
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Speaker 1: more balance of the run game. And I'm not talking

503
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Speaker 1: when I say balance, I'm not saying run it twenty times,

504
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,679
Speaker 1: throw it twenty times. I'm just saying the ability to

505
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Speaker 1: run it when you have to. M Maybe they've got

506
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,200
Speaker 1: great pass rushers a team you're playing and you want

507
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Speaker 1: to slow them down, so you run it or you

508
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 1: screen them or whatever. So just some things like that

509
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 1: that will help our offense. And because you're you're not

510
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 1: always going to be able to you know, track meet

511
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 1: everybody up and down the field. Weather can play an elm.

512
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 1: You know. Even a heading to that Baltimore game, the

513
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 1: weather was looking a little bit iffy. Obviously it was

514
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 1: still the wind, but if you add snow rain to that,

515
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:00,920
Speaker 1: it would not be conducive to passing. So we've got

516
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 1: to make sure that that we can handle any of

517
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 1: the elements if we want to host games you know

518
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 1: here in January. And then you know, defense, we had

519
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 1: a lot of changes on the d line last year,

520
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 1: and including the coaching staff, you know, with Eric Washington

521
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:15,880
Speaker 1: and Jockson Sir, and I thought they did a really

522
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 1: good job of figuring out this group and getting them going.

523
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 1: It was a slow start, but I thought the second

524
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,399
Speaker 1: half the year they really started affecting the quarterback and

525
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 1: affecting the whole defensive to a positive nature. But you know,

526
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 1: our run defense wasn't always the greatest. I think we

527
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 1: lost a little bit of beef inside. You know, we

528
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 1: lost Jordan the free agency and then but when that happened,

529
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 1: we're thinking stars coming back, and then Starr opted out

530
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,239
Speaker 1: and I think we all saw, you know, I know

531
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Speaker 1: he's not a ten sack guy, and things like that,

532
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,439
Speaker 1: but what he provides not only the run game, but

533
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 1: just the ability for our linebackers to roam free. I

534
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 1: think took those time, those guys a little time. So again,

535
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:00,199
Speaker 1: those are the things that we got to look got

536
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 1: affecting the quarterback. How we do that, whether it's the

537
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,119
Speaker 1: past defense or the pass rush, those are things that

538
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 1: we probably didn't do enough the other night against my homes.

539
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 1: And my last thing is on the run game. A

540
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 1: lot of people are just blaming Devin Singletary or the

541
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Speaker 1: loss of Zach Moss. How much how do you look

542
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,919
Speaker 1: at that whole picture, including the offensive line when it

543
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 1: comes to needing to make some improvements there and knowing

544
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 1: that you might be a little handcuffed when it comes

545
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 1: to when it comes to this offseason. As you mentioned, Yeah,

546
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Speaker 1: I think it's unfair to look at the running backs

547
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 1: to the point blame on the on the running game.

548
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 1: I think running the football is very complex, and it's

549
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 1: the It's the obviously the O line, it's the tight ends,

550
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 1: it's the receivers. And if one guy doesn't make his block,

551
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 1: the place probably did. And so there were times this

552
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 1: year where we're one guy away and whether again whether

553
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 1: it's a tight end, whether it's alignment and and it's

554
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 1: a big it's a big game, and you're going, gosh,

555
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 1: if we just get this guy blocked. And we had

556
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 1: that at times. And I'm not saying there's no you know,

557
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 1: no blame sometimes the running back and missed the whole,

558
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 1: but it's it's one of those things. You got to

559
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 1: practice it, you got to emphasize it, you got to

560
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 1: work on it. And that's something that we'll definitely look at.

561
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 1: But I'm not looking at Devin Singletary and Zach Moss

562
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 1: thinking those guys came up short for us. Thanks so much, Brandon,

563
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 1: have a good offseason. Thanks John. Hey Brandon, how are you.

564
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 1: What's up? Matt? Well much, you know, right or wrong, Like,

565
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: you know, a successful season and there's so much to celebrate,

566
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 1: but you know, fans will start kind of nitpicking at things,

567
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 1: and you know, some of the stuff that I've seen

568
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 1: out there is like some frustration or panic a little

569
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 1: bit with Ed Oliver and tremade ENBNS. I wonder what

570
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 1: your perspective is on where those two are at going

571
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 1: into offseason two and off season three for Tremaine and

572
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 1: how high expectations are still for both of those guys. Yeah,

573
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Speaker 1: I mean those are young players, and you know, start

574
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Speaker 1: with Ed. You know, Ed's playing really well and you know,

575
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 1: for people, if people want to just look at sack numbers,

576
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 1: you know, he doesn't have those. But he impacts the game,

577
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 1: not only the pass game, but the run game, and

578
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 1: he's growing, he's learning. But at the end of the day,

579
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 1: the sacks will come, I think as he continues to

580
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 1: learn the game and learning how people are playing him

581
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 1: and blocking him. You know, Ed faces a lot of

582
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 1: doubles too, so it's not the easiest road for him.

583
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 1: But I thought he definitely took a step up from

584
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 1: year one to year two. He might have started slow

585
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 1: this year, but I thought, you know, three quarters of

586
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 1: a year he played really well and helped our defense

587
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 1: and Tremaine. You know, I think Tremaine's in fairness to him.

588
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 1: I think when he banged his shoulder up that first game,

589
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 1: you know, he got back out there. I think it

590
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 1: took him a while. I think it was his first

591
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 1: injury to play with. I think he struggled with it,

592
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 1: but I thought he played, you know, overall solid down

593
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 1: the stretch. Are there more plays out there that probably so.

594
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 1: But he you know, he makes the Pro Bowl. I

595
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 1: think that's legit. I think he's respected by his peers.

596
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,959
Speaker 1: I think sometimes in your own fan base or your

597
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 1: own house, sometimes you can be more critical of your

598
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 1: own than seeing how they compare across the league. But

599
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 1: Tremaine's twenty two years old. He's a young player. We

600
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 1: still have a lot of confidence in him and where

601
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 1: he'll grow into And you know, obviously the offseason going

602
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 1: to play out the way that it is. But I'm wondering,

603
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 1: as you've had a chance to look back on the season,

604
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 1: and you know there was some continuity built on the

605
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 1: interior of the offensive line throughout the second half of

606
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 1: the season into the playoffs, how did you the book

607
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 1: Ends really got a lot of the headlines, and deservedly so,

608
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 1: they played really well. How did you feel like Mitch

609
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 1: Morris leading the way that interior played between the three

610
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 1: of them. I thought Mitch played really well down the stretch,

611
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 1: you know, in his communication was really good with the guys.

612
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 1: You know from my understand that that's an important piece. Obviously,

613
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 1: you got to have the athletic ability and the physical

614
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 1: skill set to play center, but you're not in Aaron snaps,

615
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 1: and you look at the Baltimore game, they had some

616
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 1: Aaron snaps like that was a very windy game. I

617
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 1: thought Mitch played well. You know, we didn't use Mitch

618
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 1: as much. Mitch is more of an athletic center than

619
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 1: a power center. You know, in years or last season,

620
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 1: we probably used him on the pin and pull plays

621
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: a little bit more than we did this year. Just

622
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 1: every year's kind of a new year, and you kind

623
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 1: of get in the groove of what's working, what's not.

624
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 1: But Mitch is never gonna be a guy that's gonna mow,

625
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 1: you know, a nose tackle three yards down the field.

626
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, I thought he

627
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 1: played well over all this season, and especially the second

628
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 1: half of the season. I thought he did. And then

629
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 1: did you mention another name I can't remember, Yeah, just

630
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 1: a little bit, Ike Bucker, just because, like you know,

631
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 1: Wyatt Teller had such a great season and obviously you

632
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 1: can never tell the future with that, but you gotta

633
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 1: know young player like Pike Bucker who is going to

634
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 1: face some challenges, you know, next next season with the

635
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 1: competition that you guys always provide. Yeah, I mean I

636
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 1: did a really good job I thought he came in there,

637
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: and you know, the previous season he got he played

638
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 1: in that last game against the Jets at center, and

639
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 1: it was probably an unfair thing. You know, Ike's not

640
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 1: a natural center, but we like guys with versatility, and

641
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 1: he'll do anything. If he taught Ike to go play

642
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 1: tight end, he'd do it and he wouldn't flinch. And

643
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Speaker 1: and so he probably didn't play his best game against

644
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: the Jets that week at center. There was some some

645
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 1: snaps and some other things. But this year we tried

646
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 1: to say, let's just focus in on guard more than anything.

647
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 1: Obviously emergency emergency center. But I thought once he got

648
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 1: in the groove, he played better and better. And I

649
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 1: thought he and Dion meshed well, you know with the

650
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 1: games that they can go on. And I thought he

651
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: provided comfort to Mitch as well, just helping settle things

652
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 1: down with the calls up front. So for a young

653
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 1: player to get thrown in late in the year like

654
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 1: that with limited experience, I was very pleased. Thanks Brading,

655
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 1: you got a matt Hey, Brandon Selby, Roano over and Rochester.

656
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 1: How you doing, sal I am good, But eight things

657
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 1: that would have asked you have already been asked, but

658
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 1: I guess I can ask you. This defensive line was

659
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 1: one area you really made a lot of changes between

660
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 1: last year and this year. Could you kind of give

661
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,800
Speaker 1: us a general overview of how you thought those guys

662
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 1: did as a group, and then second part specifically break

663
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,399
Speaker 1: out Epanessa and what you saw on him. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: as I said earlier, Sal, I don't think as a

665
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 1: group they were in sync early. I think no. Preseason

666
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 1: probably didn't help that group with all the changes, including

667
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 1: both coaches Eric, But I thought Eric did a great

668
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 1: job of Anne Leslie Fraser two of figuring out what

669
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,760
Speaker 1: these guys do well. We were a little smaller upfront

670
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: this year, as I said earlier, just the way it

671
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,919
Speaker 1: worked out, and so figuring out who could anchor in there,

672
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 1: who can provide pass rush. You know, we don't want

673
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 1: to get run on all day, but we also got

674
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: to get some guys in there to affect the quarterback. Again,

675
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,439
Speaker 1: I thought the second half of the year, those guys

676
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 1: played really well, and that's you know, how we use

677
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 1: this defense. We feel like it starts up front and

678
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 1: we've got to be good there before we can worry

679
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 1: about the back end. At the end of the day,

680
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 1: we were probably still a little light, um, you know

681
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,399
Speaker 1: for my comfort level, and I think we really had

682
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,320
Speaker 1: to focus on stopping that run and maybe that affected

683
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,360
Speaker 1: some other areas, whether it was getting to the passer

684
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 1: or just defending the pass in the back end. And

685
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 1: then Aj, you know, I thought AJ came in so

686
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 1: AJ played at a much heavier weight at Iowa, and

687
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 1: we asked him to get his body weight down, make

688
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 1: it a better body comp you know, from a fat percentage,

689
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: and he really not only did he get it down,

690
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 1: he went way down. And he came in probably a

691
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 1: little too light, lighter than we wanted, but that showed

692
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,280
Speaker 1: how hard he had worked this offseason. And I think

693
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 1: he came in and started a little slow, and we

694
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 1: were a little worried how he was going to hold

695
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: up against the run. Early on he added a little bit,

696
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 1: but then he just couldn't he couldn't move the needle.

697
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 1: But I thought he played, He played well, He improved

698
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:04,359
Speaker 1: his pass rush um, you know, he made some play.

699
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 1: He would have a sack. Um, you know, if one

700
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 1: of the other guys that had stayed there in their

701
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,840
Speaker 1: rush there rustling the other night, he'd have a sack

702
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 1: against Mahomes or or at least an opportunity he had it. Um,

703
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 1: you know, I'm very pleased with how he played the

704
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 1: second half the year again started slow. Coaches wanted to

705
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: earn that trust from him, having some veterans in Jerry

706
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 1: and Mario and Contrent and those guys. But I think,

707
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 1: you know, I think he's got a high ceiling and

708
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 1: it'll be a big offseason for him. Okay, thanks Brandon

709
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 1: Fairways and greens Bill soon enough, Uh that you can

710
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 1: go ahead? Sorry about that, um, Brandon, Um, you were

711
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 1: the assistant GM in Carolina twenty fifteen or so, and

712
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 1: let me turn myself on. So you're not looking at

713
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 1: nothing here, um, And coming off a super Bowl season

714
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 1: and you had a big time defensive free agent Josh Norman,

715
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 1: who you guys let get away. I know it's not

716
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 1: the same situation, but similar deal this year, good year,

717
00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 1: and you've got a big time defensive free agent Matt Milana.

718
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 1: How does do you learn anything? Can you learn anything

719
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 1: from what happened that offseason in Carolina that you can

720
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 1: apply this year going forward with with Milan on this team? Yeah,

721
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 1: I mean there are two good defensive players that you

722
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 1: always want to keep as many as you can. That

723
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 1: was a unique situation with Josh. Without getting in the

724
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: specifics of what happened there, I don't think Matt's is

725
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 1: the same situation, but you definitely want to keep. It

726
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: was never the goal in Carolina to say, hey, let's

727
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 1: let Josh Norman walk. There was there were some things, um,

728
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 1: you know, just getting a way of business. But um no,

729
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 1: I mean, Matt is a very good player. Um what

730
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 1: a great job he's done since he came in here

731
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 1: to improve from from two thy seventeen to now. You know,

732
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 1: his biggest thing is just is being able to play

733
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,399
Speaker 1: sixteen games. You know, that'd be the first thing he'll

734
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 1: tell you. It's just he had some nicks here and there,

735
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 1: and so it's just it's finding that balance. But um,

736
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 1: you know, we'd love to be able to get Matt back.

737
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:58,839
Speaker 1: He knows that I've shared that with him. I'm sure

738
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 1: Sean has as well. The business side matters. You know,

739
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 1: he wants to and he's earned the right to go

740
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 1: to free agency and see what his market bears. But

741
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 1: you know, we'll do our best to retain him and

742
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 1: as many guys as we can. We just again, I

743
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 1: don't even know the numbers yet and what it's going

744
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,320
Speaker 1: to be. And there's going to be some tough decisions

745
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 1: unfortunately for us, whether it's letting guys go on this roster,

746
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: we're having to watch guys leave. All right, Well, that's

747
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: Brandon Bean addressing the media. He's still going on now,

748
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 1: but we do have to take a break here and

749
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:33,839
Speaker 1: Steve and I will kind of dice up some of

750
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,320
Speaker 1: what Brandon went over there. Covered a lot of topics,

751
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 1: most recently Matt Milano, which is certainly going to be

752
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 1: one of great interest. But let's break here and Steve

753
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 1: and I will come back give you our thoughts, and

754
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 1: we want your thoughts as well on what the general

755
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 1: manager of the Buffalo Bills addressed in what is going

756
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 1: to be a very different type of offseason. Back in

757
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 1: a moment here on One Bill's Line, presented by Kellet

758
00:38:54,640 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 1: of Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to One

759
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 1: Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you and got

760
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 1: a few minutes here Steve to kind of discuss things

761
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 1: that Brandon Bean is addressed already. He's wrapping up his

762
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 1: comments now with the media. But why don't we start

763
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 1: where he started, Steve the bar is set higher now.

764
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 1: That's where he began his press conference today. Back to

765
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 1: back playoff berths, which represents sustained success as he and

766
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 1: Brandon envisioned from the very beginning when they took this

767
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 1: thing over. But he also said we're the hunted now

768
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 1: after winning the division, so as he sees it, they

769
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 1: have to hit the reset button and hopefully get further. Yeah,

770
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:54,839
Speaker 1: they're not going to stop trying to get better. And

771
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 1: it doesn't just because they had some guys that played

772
00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 1: well and some things go their way. One fifteen games,

773
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 1: it's awesome. It was a lot of fun to be

774
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,320
Speaker 1: a part of. They're gonna try and get better in

775
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 1: every spot, and that that means just about nobody on

776
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:10,359
Speaker 1: this roster can say, Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna be good.

777
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 1: They're gonna bring in a competition at as many places

778
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,399
Speaker 1: as they can and bringing as many good guys as

779
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 1: they can. They're going to continue to distill the locker

780
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 1: room and the talent level on the roster until he

781
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 1: gets high everywhere. It gets at a higher level everywhere,

782
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 1: and they can win games a myriad of different ways. Certainly.

783
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 1: This team is a team that relied on his passing

784
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 1: game quite a bit this last season, and he was

785
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 1: asked about the running game and how effective it could

786
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 1: be and if they're gonna upgrade that and that kind

787
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 1: of thing. Yeah, the answer is, yes, they've got it.

788
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 1: They've that the words that Sean McDermott always says, Browning,

789
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 1: it's a growth mindset. That's not just words. They've got

790
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:50,439
Speaker 1: that attitude in their front office as well. They're gonna

791
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:54,839
Speaker 1: be trying to get better. Correct. He also did though, say,

792
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 1: even though the Chiefs are the gold standard, winning the

793
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 1: division remains goal number one on the list of the goals.

794
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 1: And that's kind of where you have to start next

795
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 1: year because, as he said, you're hitting the reset button.

796
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 1: You're starting from ground zero. First goal, first objective is

797
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,839
Speaker 1: the division. Yeah. It's a little different this year though,

798
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 1: right because now the Patriots, Jets and Dolphins are trying

799
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 1: to figure out a way to beat the Bills. The

800
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: Bill swept him all of them, right, So now those

801
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,240
Speaker 1: teams are chasing the Bills. The Bills are chasing the Chiefs.

802
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:36,439
Speaker 1: Let the division chase the Bills, right, Yeah, And we'll

803
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 1: get into more of this. Obviously, we do have to

804
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 1: take a break now after going almost thirty five full

805
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 1: minutes with coach or coach with General Manager Brandon Bean.

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00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:47,879
Speaker 1: So we will take a break here, but be back

807
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 1: in a moment because we discussed more of the general

808
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 1: managers assessments of the twenty twenty campaign back in a

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00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 1: flash here on one Bills five presented by Collid to Health.

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00:41:56,719 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bills Radio Catherine and New one Bills Live

811
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 1: on an hour early as we brought you the first

812
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 1: thirty five minutes or so of General Manager Brandon being

813
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 1: seasoned rapp up press conference with the media. It is

814
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 1: wrapping up here and if there's any other news and

815
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 1: notes that come out of it, we will be sure

816
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 1: to bring it to you. But in the thirty five

817
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 1: minutes that we made available, Steve, I thought it was

818
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 1: very upfront, as Brandon being usually is, he's a straight shooter,

819
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 1: and he said Kansas City is better than us, and

820
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,760
Speaker 1: I don't think that's telling any tales out of school,

821
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 1: and he said we have to get better. Now you mentioned,

822
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 1: you know, briefly in passing Steve the run game. I

823
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 1: think it's important that we distinguish what both he and

824
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott made plain. They both said they have to

825
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 1: run the ball better. They did not say we have

826
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 1: to run the ball more. And I think it stems

827
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:13,240
Speaker 1: from a desire to be able to turn to any

828
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:17,320
Speaker 1: aspect of their offense that they need in a particular

829
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:22,439
Speaker 1: situation based on how that specific game is going. Right. Yeah,

830
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,439
Speaker 1: that you said it, Brownie. It's just run it better.

831
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 1: Run it when you want to run it instead of

832
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,399
Speaker 1: when you're trying to take the pressure off your passing game,

833
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 1: or even if it is the only reason to do it,

834
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:33,360
Speaker 1: when you want to do it and do it better.

835
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 1: I think there were a couple of games you can

836
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 1: point to, you know, the Patriots game where they ran well,

837
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 1: and a couple of others, and the and the Pittsburgh

838
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 1: game that he merged the Chargers and the Chargers game,

839
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh game where they ran out the last seven

840
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 1: and a half minutes of the clock and the Pittsburgh

841
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,240
Speaker 1: steeeners never got back on the field. That's a pretty

842
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 1: big statement. But you got to be able to do

843
00:43:56,480 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 1: that all the time, and I think in those instants

844
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 1: is certainly the Bills were good enough against a team

845
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 1: that wasn't winning very many games. They could. They could

846
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 1: run the ball when they wanted to use it the

847
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 1: way they wanted and be productive doing it. But yeah,

848
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 1: I think they struck a lot of it. He's right.

849
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 1: I think when it wasn't about running it more was

850
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 1: running about it more effectively. But if they did run

851
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 1: them more effectively, Brownie, I think they would have run

852
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,919
Speaker 1: it more. Right, So, I think it's it's a double

853
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 1: edged sword there, I get it. But if you can

854
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 1: run the ball, well, you're gonna run it a lot. Yeah.

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00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 1: I mean at the end of the season, there is

856
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 1: sixty forty pass to run team and they threw it

857
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 1: the thirteenth most often in the league this past season.

858
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 1: If they can run it when they need to run it,

859
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 1: there are more versatile and harder offense to stop. And

860
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,399
Speaker 1: I think that's the aim here. All right, break time

861
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 1: for us, But when we come back plenty to digest

862
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,359
Speaker 1: from general manager Brandon Bean, we will get into that

863
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 1: when we kick the show off again at the normal time,

864
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Speaker 1: the noon hour coming your way. Next here on One

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Speaker 1: Bill's Life presented by Collid to Health as he's Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bills Radio at a Steve Tasker who has been all

867
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 1: over the field, kind evenique. He was kind of a

868
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 1: dual role player for you, Star Steve a blimp. We're

869
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 1: not even in the strated here of normalcy. Welcome to

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00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: the regularly scheduled time of the commencement of One Bills Live,

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00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker review for us, this is our

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Speaker 1: number two as we once again began our show an

873
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 1: hour early to provide the season wrap up assessment of

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00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 1: one general manager Brandon Bean on the twenty twenty season.

875
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 1: And he left a lot for us to chew on,

876
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 1: Steve and those first thirty five minutes. So it'll be

877
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:09,359
Speaker 1: interesting to digest all of this, assess all of this,

878
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:12,879
Speaker 1: react to all of this, and I guess I'll put

879
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:14,919
Speaker 1: it to you first here Steve, before we get into

880
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 1: the Twitter poll and our phone calls at eight oh

881
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 1: three fifty to see where fans are in on Brandon

882
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 1: Bean's comments through the first thirty five forty minutes. But

883
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:29,359
Speaker 1: where where did his comments leave you? Focused? All? Right?

884
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 1: Right where this should be. I think they've got a

885
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 1: really tough offseason ahead of them. They've got a bunch

886
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,320
Speaker 1: of free agents they're they're gonna have to address some guys.

887
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 1: They really want to bring back some some A lot

888
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 1: of Bills fans would say it critical to bring back.

889
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 1: They've got a Josh Allen ex tension they got to

890
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 1: start thinking about. They've got a cap that's going to

891
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 1: be cut by twenty to thirty million dollars, and there's

892
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 1: gonna be other teams that are in worse or better

893
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:55,319
Speaker 1: positions than the Bills are. And there's going to be

894
00:46:55,400 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 1: some unbelievably talented and enticing players available on the free

895
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 1: agent market in a year like this, So it's gonna

896
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot going on in this offseason

897
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 1: for the Buffalo Bills as well as every other team.

898
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a unique, a unique offseason in every way,

899
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 1: shape or form, no combine. Everything's gonna be done on

900
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 1: site with pro days. They're gonna be traveling everywhere like

901
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 1: they haven't for a long time. And they've got a

902
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 1: lot of players they have to evaluate at the collegiate level.

903
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 1: And there's gonna be a lot of gaps in rosters

904
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 1: that are gonna be able to be addressed well before

905
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 1: the draft. What seems to be a gaping hole in

906
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 1: some teams rosters may be a strength by the time

907
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 1: they kick off OTAs. So I think there's there's some

908
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 1: teams that are just absolutely just in just straight jacketed

909
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 1: by their financial limitations because of the cap. There are

910
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 1: some teams they're gonna lose a good portion of their

911
00:47:56,600 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 1: lot roster because of free agency. And you've got every

912
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:02,840
Speaker 1: team that is just like the Bills, who has a

913
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 1: young quarterback that they need to sign to an extension.

914
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 1: We've seen other teams do it. Mahomes, Deshaun Watson, Carson Wentz,

915
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott has been franchised. I don't I think what

916
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 1: will happen is in my gut feeling Brownie as important

917
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:19,959
Speaker 1: and as absolutely no brainer as it is to sign

918
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:22,800
Speaker 1: Josh Allen to an extension, I think he gets pushed

919
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 1: off another year. Yeah. Well, I think we have to

920
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 1: remember this too, Steve. You know, everybody's talking about some

921
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 1: of these teams that are ridiculously over the cap, at

922
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 1: least as we are anticipating it will be now. The

923
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 1: number that NFL clubs were given was one seventy five.

924
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 1: They have not been given a new number since that,

925
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 1: although there have been rumblings that the number could be

926
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:50,320
Speaker 1: pushed up to one eighty. There's other projections that say

927
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 1: with the new media rights deals going through, the cap

928
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 1: could be inflated up to as high as one ninety five.

929
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 1: The bottom line, though, is it's not going to be

930
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 1: where it was project two ten to two fifteen, somewhere

931
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 1: in there. And because of that, there are teams that

932
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 1: are going to have to make a lot of tough decisions.

933
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:10,839
Speaker 1: The Bills are in that boat. They are in that

934
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,959
Speaker 1: boat to make tough decisions. Brandon being said it today,

935
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 1: we will have to make tough decisions. And when he

936
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 1: was asked specifically about linebacker Matt Milano, he gave the

937
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 1: same exact comment that he gave when he was asked

938
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 1: last year about Shack Lawson and Jordan Phillips. He essentially said,

939
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 1: we'd love to have Matt back. We value him as

940
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:38,360
Speaker 1: an asset on this defense, but he has earned the

941
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 1: right to see what his market value is out on

942
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 1: the open market, and we hope to have him back,

943
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 1: but there are going to be tough decisions. That was

944
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 1: his assessment of the Matt Milano situation. And to me,

945
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 1: knowing the cap restraints based on the revenue shortfalls of

946
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 1: the league and the cap likely sitting around somewhere between

947
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 1: one seventy five and one hundred and eighty million dollars.

948
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 1: I would say the odds are long that they can

949
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 1: meet what Matt Milano wants to make on his second

950
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:17,360
Speaker 1: contract that he has unquestionably earned. They've got over you know,

951
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 1: the top six guys on their roster, their free agents

952
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 1: that have almost thirty million dollars off the cap. Trent

953
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:28,840
Speaker 1: Murphy for seven point five, Tyler Craft for six point two,

954
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:32,359
Speaker 1: Josh Norman for six, Tying A. Secki for five, John

955
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 1: Feliciano for three point six, and Brian Winters for three,

956
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 1: and then it drops down to then Aaron Darryl Williams

957
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:43,240
Speaker 1: is two point two five. So all of those guys

958
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 1: put together add up to about thirty million dollars in

959
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:52,359
Speaker 1: cap space and that's just coming off their books. Yeah,

960
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 1: but but I don't know if that's that's gonna still

961
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:57,799
Speaker 1: get them where they need to be. I mean, you can,

962
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 1: whether you go to over thecap dot com or our

963
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 1: good friend Mike Janitty with spottrack dot com, there are

964
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 1: varying projections as to what the bills are looking at,

965
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 1: but either way, they're anywhere from one to six million

966
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 1: over with the committed contracts they have for twenty twenty

967
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 1: one alone, So they're gonna have to do some cutting

968
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 1: like a lot of other teams, certainly not to the

969
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 1: degree that a team like New Orleans has to make

970
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:31,280
Speaker 1: or the Rams have to make. But as Brandon Bean said,

971
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:34,360
Speaker 1: there are gonna be some tough decisions here going forward,

972
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 1: even with the guys they are moving off of their books.

973
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:40,399
Speaker 1: And let's not forget this too. You know, there's been

974
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:43,240
Speaker 1: talk about, you know, does Josh Allen get an extension.

975
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 1: I'm kind of thinking the same way you are, Steve.

976
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 1: I think they go fifty year option on Josh Allen.

977
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:53,359
Speaker 1: But you've also got Tremaine Edmonds, who was a first

978
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 1: round pick who's open to a fifth round option thing

979
00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:00,799
Speaker 1: to extend his contract an extra year, push that into

980
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 1: the future, and that's gonna cost money at the same position,

981
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:08,479
Speaker 1: by the way as Matt Mlano. So then there's gonna

982
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 1: be a lot of difficult decision making here for a

983
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 1: lot of teams across the league. But the Bills are

984
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 1: in that boat. Yeah. Our guys, that's our guys at

985
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 1: spot Track have got them one hundred and eighty four

986
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 1: point two million that's with all the guys I just

987
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:23,319
Speaker 1: mentioned being off the books, they're one hundred and I

988
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 1: believe is assuming a one hundred eighty million dollars cap,

989
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:30,799
Speaker 1: not one seventy five. He's assuming one eighty right right now,

990
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 1: they're one eighty four plus. So if it if it

991
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 1: drops to one whatever, if it drops to you know,

992
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:40,439
Speaker 1: one seventy five, they're nine million over. So yeah, they've

993
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:43,839
Speaker 1: got their right at where they're like, I don't know, um,

994
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 1: And that's without any new deals to all the guys

995
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:49,840
Speaker 1: that we spoke about. Now here's the thing as well, Uh,

996
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:54,880
Speaker 1: there's no question that you know, there's nobody out here

997
00:52:54,640 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 1: on this list that you're gonna get big relief from. Um,

998
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 1: you know, and I know fans can do this just

999
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:05,360
Speaker 1: as well as I kind of a J. Klein is

1000
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 1: Is has a six point four million dollars hit, you

1001
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 1: know that kind of thing. Lee Smith is a two

1002
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 1: point two million dollar hit. So there's those kind of

1003
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:17,360
Speaker 1: players on there that are you know, longer in the tooth.

1004
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 1: And the Bills went to the AFC Championship this year,

1005
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 1: and I know we thought we could have used star

1006
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:26,359
Speaker 1: Loto Lalae, Star Looto las a seven point six million

1007
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:28,840
Speaker 1: dollars hit. So you have this idea where if you

1008
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:30,879
Speaker 1: want to keep your great players, the guys that played

1009
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 1: for like a Star Loto Lalae, a guy you want

1010
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 1: to bring back who thought it really could have helped

1011
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 1: you this year, you want him back, or guys like

1012
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 1: Lee Smith, guys like or Aj Klein who filled in

1013
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 1: from Alano. All that you can, but then you got

1014
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 1: to get rid of like nineteen other guys, all the

1015
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 1: guys from at the bottom of the roster down, you know,

1016
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:50,760
Speaker 1: all the you know, Tarn Johnson, Siran Neil, Zach Moss,

1017
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 1: Gabriel Davis, Brian you know you could down that list.

1018
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:55,319
Speaker 1: It takes you like nine of those guys to get

1019
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 1: through a guy like a Lee Smith or uh, you know,

1020
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:01,800
Speaker 1: Star loot Lale. You know, you're talking about a trade

1021
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:06,239
Speaker 1: for one or two great players for ten guys that

1022
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 1: really contributed in a year you went to the AFC

1023
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:10,799
Speaker 1: Championship game. It's a really, really tough spot for the

1024
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:17,880
Speaker 1: Bills financially. It is, and that's why Brandon Bean also

1025
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 1: said today that what we're looking at is a situation

1026
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 1: where we will need to draft. Well that is a

1027
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 1: direct quote, he said, there won't be a free agency

1028
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 1: where we can be aggressive, looking more to retain our

1029
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:35,840
Speaker 1: own and plugging some holes. I tell you what. He

1030
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 1: finished that comment by saying, the onus is on us

1031
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 1: to have a strong draft. That says to me, there

1032
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 1: are going to be some limited signings and probably to

1033
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:50,320
Speaker 1: a large degree steve of the one year variety. Yeah. Maybe,

1034
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 1: But there's also this kind of thing too. Say, for instance,

1035
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 1: you get out there and teams like say, for instance,

1036
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 1: I'm just throwing this out there, this is not gonna happen.

1037
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 1: I'm exaggerating this point. I'm exaggerating to make a point here. Say,

1038
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 1: for instance, George Kittle has to be let go by

1039
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:12,359
Speaker 1: the Niners. Players like that, So the Bills decide, well,

1040
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 1: that's a guy we might make a plate for a

1041
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 1: one year deal, a George Kittle. So you got you know,

1042
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 1: Dawson Knox and Lee Smith go away and you give George.

1043
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 1: You getting up giving George Kittle five million dollars for

1044
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 1: a one year deal. That's that's light for him. But

1045
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:30,840
Speaker 1: if there's if that's what the market bears, you know,

1046
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 1: because there's gonna be so many guys out there and

1047
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 1: so many teams that are cash strapped, the numbers are

1048
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:38,719
Speaker 1: gonna go down, and a guy like George Kittle or

1049
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:41,240
Speaker 1: a guy like JJ Watt, or a guy like whatever

1050
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 1: guy you can name, will say, you know what, just

1051
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:47,280
Speaker 1: for one year, I'll take the you know, a third

1052
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 1: of what my original contract was. If I was making

1053
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:52,279
Speaker 1: fifteen million a year, I'll take a third of that

1054
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 1: for one year and go back on the market next year.

1055
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 1: You could entice some guys to do that. And I'm saying,

1056
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 1: but that's what a free agency. If you do anything,

1057
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 1: it's gonna be all one year deal. But it amounts

1058
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:06,760
Speaker 1: to trading Dawson Knox and Lee Smith for George Kittle,

1059
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 1: which I think a lot of people will say, well, yeah, that,

1060
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 1: but it will be much more close to that, you

1061
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:15,799
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, it'll be. It'll be It'll be

1062
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:17,879
Speaker 1: a call by the front office, say, listen, I think

1063
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 1: this guy gives us a little more than a little

1064
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 1: more here and a little less there. But a little

1065
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 1: more here and a little less there. We could make

1066
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 1: that trade one for two, or trade a guy that

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00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 1: we've got on our roster, trade up because a quality

1068
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 1: start on another team is available. That it's gonna being

1069
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 1: you have to be careful though. Yeah, you gotta be

1070
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 1: careful with that though, because, yeah, that sounds all well

1071
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 1: and good for that year where you can get veteran

1072
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:47,320
Speaker 1: free agents at a bargain price just because the market

1073
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:50,280
Speaker 1: can't bear much more than what their true market value

1074
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:52,840
Speaker 1: should be because of the cap situation that exists in

1075
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:55,919
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty one calendar year. But you also don't

1076
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 1: want to be caught with your pants down in twenty

1077
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 1: twenty two with a cupboard that's bare and veteran free

1078
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:04,719
Speaker 1: agents signing for their true market value next year and

1079
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:07,840
Speaker 1: not doing that here, and then you have nothing behind

1080
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 1: them in the form of younger players to fill the holes,

1081
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:14,399
Speaker 1: and now you're left with a whole filling situation that's

1082
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 1: too big to accomplish in one season. And now you're

1083
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 1: underachieving because your roster's too thin, it doesn't have the

1084
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 1: depth anymore. Yeah, it's gonna be interesting too, because going

1085
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 1: with what Brandon Beans said about the draft, I think

1086
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 1: and I think they always do this, but not every

1087
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 1: team does. I think the Bills have been doing a

1088
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 1: pretty good job of this. I don't think they take

1089
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 1: players in the draft. They don't think can help them

1090
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 1: right away. But I'm telling you what, most teams, if

1091
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 1: they're in this boat, you've got to take a guy

1092
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 1: if you're there's no Jordan Love in Green Bay this

1093
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 1: year in the draft, you're not taking a guy high

1094
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 1: in the draft that can't help you right now. I

1095
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 1: mean it's right now in the in the financial straits

1096
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 1: of the league. You need a guy that's on the field.

1097
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 1: You're not taking, you know, a guy that you think, eh,

1098
00:57:57,920 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 1: you know what, he's not real good now, but in

1099
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 1: a year, year or two, we think he can do it.

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00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 1: No way, you're going to get a guy who you

1101
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 1: think can come in and compete right now and get

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00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 1: on the field for you, because you just can't wait

1103
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 1: for him, and you need those contracts to beat contributors

1104
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 1: on the field rather than just waiting their turn on

1105
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:17,960
Speaker 1: the practice squad. So let me roll this value as

1106
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 1: a potential course of action by maybe not just the Bills,

1107
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 1: but a lot of teams in the league instead of

1108
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 1: First of all, I think there's going to be teams

1109
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 1: holding their water until the last possible second when they

1110
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 1: need to be under the cap so as not to

1111
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 1: flood the market with their own free agents that ultimately

1112
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 1: they'd like to keep. I think they hold onto rostered

1113
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:45,440
Speaker 1: players as long as possible before clipping them and putting

1114
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 1: them out in the market late, hoping other teams do

1115
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 1: it sooner, and teams that have cap space scoop those

1116
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 1: players up before they scoop up buffaloes. That's number one.

1117
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 1: Number two. I could see the Bills and a host

1118
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 1: of other teams in a tight cap situation and saying,

1119
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 1: let me trade my players that I know I can't

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00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 1: afford to keep and try to get draft capital back,

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00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 1: and so I can get even more players on cheap

1122
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 1: labor rookie deals to plug into the holes that need

1123
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 1: to be filled, knowing I can't afford veteran players. That's

1124
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 1: a good idea. Accept it's a system. It's a closed system.

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00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 1: So everybody's gonna be in that boat. You know, everybody's

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00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:26,840
Speaker 1: gonna have I think there's gonna be a ton of

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00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:30,240
Speaker 1: guys certainly. Yeah, If say, for instance, the Texans would

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00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:33,440
Speaker 1: rather trade JJ Watt than have to cut him and

1129
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 1: get back up, even if it's any draft picks, you

1130
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:39,280
Speaker 1: know they'd like to get something for him because they're

1131
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:42,040
Speaker 1: gonna have to release him anyway. With within twenty million

1132
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:45,440
Speaker 1: dollars nineteen seventeen and a half, right, I mean they

1133
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 1: can't this can't keep that guy on the roster. I know, Steve.

1134
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:55,600
Speaker 1: This offseason is gonna be unbelievable, giant staring contest. The

1135
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:58,760
Speaker 1: teams that need to shed cap are gonna try to

1136
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 1: trade guys, and the teams that are looking to spend

1137
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:04,880
Speaker 1: their money wisely are gonna wait for those teams to

1138
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:07,960
Speaker 1: just outright cut them. They know what the circumstances are,

1139
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:10,360
Speaker 1: and they're just gonna say, well, that's all well and

1140
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 1: good that you'd like my fifth round pick for this

1141
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 1: veteran free agent or this veteran player that I know

1142
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 1: you can't afford to keep. But you know what, I'm

1143
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 1: just gonna wait until you cut them out right, and

1144
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:21,280
Speaker 1: then I'm gonna talk my own contract with them individually, right,

1145
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 1: and I'm not giving your draft assets. So you've got

1146
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:26,480
Speaker 1: these teams that are really between the rock and a

1147
01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:29,480
Speaker 1: hard place that are gonna have to get really creative

1148
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 1: in terms of how they keep a competitive, playoff caliber

1149
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:38,360
Speaker 1: roster intact while also supplementing that roster with cheap labor

1150
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 1: via the draft and holding on to the right people

1151
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:44,960
Speaker 1: or somehow some way resigning guys they would really desperately

1152
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:47,600
Speaker 1: like to keep, and that is not going to be

1153
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 1: an easy path. I think too, that teams like Buffalo

1154
01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 1: are going to be sitting right where you want to

1155
01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:58,920
Speaker 1: be because they're gonna be right at the cap. And

1156
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 1: if you can get into free agency, even if you're

1157
01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:05,320
Speaker 1: right at the cap, you don't have to release anybody

1158
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 1: and you can wait. And so if there's an upgrade

1159
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:10,800
Speaker 1: and free agency, you sign that guy and cut the

1160
01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:15,320
Speaker 1: guy on your roster. Then so I think the Bills

1161
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:17,560
Speaker 1: are sitting Okay, there's some of these teams, Brownie, you

1162
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 1: know this, Like the Saints are like double what the

1163
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:27,560
Speaker 1: cap is. I mean, they're really in sad shape. It's

1164
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:30,360
Speaker 1: gonna be interesting to see how this turns out. But

1165
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:32,440
Speaker 1: because that's you're right, it is going to be a

1166
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:33,720
Speaker 1: little bit of a wait and see. But I think

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01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:35,320
Speaker 1: a team like the Buffalo Bills, who are at least

1168
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 1: right close to the tech cap, can sit tight while

1169
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:41,960
Speaker 1: these other teams have to make real tough financial decisions. Now,

1170
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:43,680
Speaker 1: the Bills will have some tough decision to make because

1171
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:46,000
Speaker 1: Brandon being said, but I think some teams are going

1172
01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:48,080
Speaker 1: to be forced into a way before the Buffalo Bills

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01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 1: get to that point. Yes. My concern though, is this,

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01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:56,280
Speaker 1: every other team in Buffalo's division has more caps case

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01:01:56,600 --> 01:02:00,320
Speaker 1: more cap space than the Bills do. And the this

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01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:04,160
Speaker 1: way to catch the leader in your division is to

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Speaker 1: take his assets and put them on your roster, and

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Speaker 1: I think there will be players. Do we lose your Brownie?

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01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:17,840
Speaker 1: Brownie might have We might have lost Brownie's internet connection.

1180
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:19,480
Speaker 1: He froze up on the picture. Brownie, if you can

1181
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:21,040
Speaker 1: hear us, you can call us back real quick when

1182
01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 1: we're talking about the cap and how how it's going

1183
01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:25,960
Speaker 1: to affect the Buffalo Bills. Brandon Bean has been with

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01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:30,400
Speaker 1: the media. He may I think he's into his press

1185
01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:33,040
Speaker 1: conference as of now, but it was a lengthy, lengthy

1186
01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:37,400
Speaker 1: and wide ranging press conference that you could watch right

1187
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 1: here and you'll also be able to see it, I

1188
01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:42,800
Speaker 1: think on the Bills app Buffalo Bills dot Com as

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Speaker 1: well later today playing Field. Oh there you go, Hi, Brownie,

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01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:49,160
Speaker 1: we lost you for a minute. Sorry, that's all right.

1191
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:52,800
Speaker 1: We're just getting we're just getting through us reminding everybody

1192
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:56,280
Speaker 1: that we had Brandon Bean's wide ranging press conference on

1193
01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:58,480
Speaker 1: today and you and I've been going over the financial

1194
01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:00,960
Speaker 1: ramifications of this cap and it's gonna look like and

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01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:04,240
Speaker 1: I'm you know, I'm going down the list of all

1196
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:09,200
Speaker 1: the teams and not all of them, but I mean,

1197
01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:12,240
Speaker 1: there's gonna be some real problems and you're right, the

1198
01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:14,160
Speaker 1: Bills in their division. And we said it at the

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01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:18,800
Speaker 1: beginning of this this is gonna be a year where

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Speaker 1: the Bills, everybody in the in the AFC East is

1201
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:28,120
Speaker 1: gonna be chasing Buffalo, and Buffalo is still chasing the Chiefs,

1202
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:31,400
Speaker 1: Am I right? I mean? And that to me is

1203
01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:34,520
Speaker 1: um it's gonna make all the difference in this offseason

1204
01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:41,040
Speaker 1: for the Bills and what they're gonna do. All right,

1205
01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:43,800
Speaker 1: We're gonna take a break. We're gonna take a break

1206
01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:45,560
Speaker 1: and get Brownie back on the line. As you see,

1207
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:47,400
Speaker 1: there is before we go to break up. The Bills

1208
01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:49,680
Speaker 1: free agents a lot of guys. It's gonna be some

1209
01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:53,000
Speaker 1: tough situation. And I told you this on this program

1210
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:56,520
Speaker 1: and other places as well. It's it's sad to see

1211
01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:58,600
Speaker 1: a great season like the Bills just put together, and

1212
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:02,320
Speaker 1: not because for one reason, because it was a lot

1213
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:03,720
Speaker 1: of fun to be a part of. We were all

1214
01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:07,040
Speaker 1: act absolutely enjoying every moment of it, but also this

1215
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:10,000
Speaker 1: that team's never coming back again, and this offseason that's

1216
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:12,480
Speaker 1: going to be more true than ever. Steve Tasher, Chris Brown,

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Speaker 1: One Bills Live. We'll be back with more on One

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Speaker 1: Bill's Live, presented by Kalid to Health. This is Buffalo

1219
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Speaker 1: Bills Radio. Let's ground. Steve Tasker back. Sorry about that, folks.

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Speaker 1: I'm back connected up and running here. Last day on

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01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:41,880
Speaker 1: the home front. I'll be back in studio tomorrow with Steve,

1222
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:45,480
Speaker 1: so things will run a lot smoother. And yeah, I

1223
01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:49,400
Speaker 1: mean we were before I turned into Frosty the Snowman there, Steve.

1224
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:52,480
Speaker 1: I was trying to explain that my concerns lie with

1225
01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:56,400
Speaker 1: the fact that the cap situations for the Dolphins, the Jets,

1226
01:04:56,920 --> 01:05:00,840
Speaker 1: and the Patriots are healthier than that of the Bills.

1227
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:04,000
Speaker 1: Not saying they manage their finances better. I'm just saying

1228
01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:07,520
Speaker 1: based on where they are in their respective builds of

1229
01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:12,160
Speaker 1: their rosters. The Patriots struggled this year because they had

1230
01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:15,120
Speaker 1: to put themselves in cap jail and bite the bullet

1231
01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:17,520
Speaker 1: this year, much like the Bills did in twenty eighteen,

1232
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:21,960
Speaker 1: and the Dolphins are a year or two behind the Bills.

1233
01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:25,520
Speaker 1: In terms of their roster build. And you know, the

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01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:28,600
Speaker 1: Jets are essentially starting over with the new head coach.

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01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:32,320
Speaker 1: Jets are all of these teams. The Jets are number

1236
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:34,520
Speaker 1: three in the cap space. They've got sixty two million.

1237
01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:37,520
Speaker 1: This is all according to spot back. The leaders in

1238
01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:40,080
Speaker 1: the clubhouse and the league are the Jaguars. They've got

1239
01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:42,360
Speaker 1: sixty five million dollars to spend. Thennis the Colts was

1240
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:44,800
Speaker 1: sixty one million dollars, which you got. It's hard to

1241
01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:46,960
Speaker 1: imagine the Colts being in a better position getting into

1242
01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:49,320
Speaker 1: the playoffs and having sixty million dollars in cap space

1243
01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:52,400
Speaker 1: to use. The Jets are then number three with sixty

1244
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:57,880
Speaker 1: two million, the New England Patriots fifty million to spend,

1245
01:05:57,920 --> 01:06:01,560
Speaker 1: and then at number eight are the Dolphins with twenty

1246
01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:03,600
Speaker 1: two million to spin. And then it gets down the

1247
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:06,480
Speaker 1: Bills are just at the just below the league average.

1248
01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:10,120
Speaker 1: They they are eight million, eight point three over the cap.

1249
01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:13,439
Speaker 1: And of course the worst is I've told you, oh

1250
01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:17,040
Speaker 1: my gosh, the New Orleans Saints are one hundred and

1251
01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:21,440
Speaker 1: twelve million dollars over the cap, one hundred and twelve million.

1252
01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:23,240
Speaker 1: And then it goes to the film. Don't know if

1253
01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:26,040
Speaker 1: that's counting Drew Brees, I don't believe it is. Yeah,

1254
01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:29,600
Speaker 1: then listen. Then the Philly is sixty one million, the

1255
01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:33,320
Speaker 1: Falcons are thirty three, Packers, thirty nine Pittsburgh, twenty nine,

1256
01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:38,040
Speaker 1: La Rams, thirty five Vegas Raiders are twenty million over

1257
01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:40,360
Speaker 1: the cap. Then it's the Chiefs are eighteen million over.

1258
01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:42,280
Speaker 1: So the Bills are a little bit better cap position

1259
01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:45,480
Speaker 1: than the team they're chasing, the Chiefs. But you know,

1260
01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:49,080
Speaker 1: the Bills are right around, right around the cap. I

1261
01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:51,960
Speaker 1: mean they're right So with those three teams in their

1262
01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:58,760
Speaker 1: division all in better fiscal financial shape, they have greater

1263
01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:03,480
Speaker 1: ability to dramatically impact their roster for the better and

1264
01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:08,360
Speaker 1: close the gap. And the Bills really, to a certain extent,

1265
01:07:08,440 --> 01:07:12,000
Speaker 1: have their hands tied in terms of not only improving

1266
01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:14,920
Speaker 1: their roster but just keeping some of their more valuable

1267
01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:17,720
Speaker 1: players well, like them at Milano for example. And the

1268
01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:20,600
Speaker 1: problem is this for the Bills, Brown, I mean, certainly,

1269
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:24,320
Speaker 1: the Patriots and the Jets and the Dolphins have more

1270
01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:26,240
Speaker 1: holes to fill on their roster and more money to

1271
01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:30,080
Speaker 1: fill it. But the Bills they're losing. They've got a

1272
01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:31,760
Speaker 1: ton of guys that are up, that are leaving, that

1273
01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:34,360
Speaker 1: are walking out the door if they don't sign them. Feliciano,

1274
01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:38,080
Speaker 1: you know, Milano or just to name a couple, They've

1275
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Speaker 1: got guys that are near and dear to most Bills fans.

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01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:42,720
Speaker 1: Bills fans would thing man, these guys are contributors. We

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01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:45,880
Speaker 1: need them. Darryl Williams, they right tackle for the entire year,

1278
01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:50,439
Speaker 1: who didn't maybe miss one one snap all year. They've

1279
01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:52,800
Speaker 1: got to replace those guys. They've got some holes they've

1280
01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:54,840
Speaker 1: got to fill, and they were holes filled by guys

1281
01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:57,480
Speaker 1: who not only played well, but also leaders in the

1282
01:07:57,280 --> 01:08:00,160
Speaker 1: in the locker room as well, good solid guys who

1283
01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:02,600
Speaker 1: helped that team get better in other ways as well.

1284
01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:04,800
Speaker 1: So it's yeah, the Bills have got some work to do,

1285
01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:10,240
Speaker 1: and those hard decisions might not only be what free

1286
01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:13,360
Speaker 1: agents they have to part ways with, but maybe players

1287
01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:19,040
Speaker 1: that are under contract on the roster who they ultimately

1288
01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:22,280
Speaker 1: come to a decision and say, well, if this is

1289
01:08:22,320 --> 01:08:27,479
Speaker 1: the difference between getting Matt Milano resigned and parting ways

1290
01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:32,639
Speaker 1: with potentially two or three players on the existing roster, well,

1291
01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:35,719
Speaker 1: Matt Milano plays one hundred percent of the defensive snaps.

1292
01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:39,679
Speaker 1: We'd rather keep Matt Milano and get rid of three

1293
01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:45,080
Speaker 1: role players. Things like that could very well happen this offseason, right,

1294
01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:47,960
Speaker 1: But even those role players, no, nobody, those role players

1295
01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:51,200
Speaker 1: are making you know, seven figures and to sign, which

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01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:52,639
Speaker 1: is why I'm saying you may need to cut two

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01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:54,240
Speaker 1: or three of them. It could be more than that.

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01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:56,760
Speaker 1: I mean, if Milano is going, Milana goes down in

1299
01:08:56,800 --> 01:09:01,200
Speaker 1: the open market and he pulls down ten eight figures

1300
01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:05,160
Speaker 1: a year, like ten million bucks a year or whatever around,

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01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:11,800
Speaker 1: he's gone. He's going to be gone. The Bills won't

1302
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:14,000
Speaker 1: be able to sign him back. They'll be drafting another

1303
01:09:14,320 --> 01:09:16,800
Speaker 1: linebacker or whatever. And I hate to say it, but

1304
01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:20,799
Speaker 1: the way Brandon being painted the picture today, he almost

1305
01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:23,080
Speaker 1: sounds somewhat resigned to the fact that it's going to

1306
01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:27,240
Speaker 1: take moving mountains to get him back on this roster

1307
01:09:27,360 --> 01:09:30,880
Speaker 1: because I think he knows that Mattmlano has played to

1308
01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:36,920
Speaker 1: a level where he has made himself a very marketable

1309
01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:40,400
Speaker 1: free agent. He is going to be of interest because

1310
01:09:40,400 --> 01:09:42,840
Speaker 1: he is the modern day linebacker, the one that can

1311
01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:45,880
Speaker 1: play all three downs, the one that can cover tight

1312
01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:49,479
Speaker 1: ends and backs and gives you something in the run

1313
01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:52,360
Speaker 1: front so and con Blitz. I mean, he's a very,

1314
01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:55,400
Speaker 1: very versatile player is going to be a hot commodity.

1315
01:09:55,439 --> 01:10:00,680
Speaker 1: There's only one check on the other side of the

1316
01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:02,880
Speaker 1: ledger with Matt Milano. He hasn't always been available for

1317
01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:07,559
Speaker 1: sixteen games. That's it. That is the only mark against him.

1318
01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:09,559
Speaker 1: He would have been a lot of people and I agree,

1319
01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:10,960
Speaker 1: would have He would have been in the Pro Bowl

1320
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:12,639
Speaker 1: one of his first four years in the league had

1321
01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:15,439
Speaker 1: he been healthy the entire year. I think, particularly last

1322
01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:17,800
Speaker 1: year he was playing at a Pro Bowl level before

1323
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:19,360
Speaker 1: or maybe it was two years ago where he got

1324
01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:23,280
Speaker 1: his ankle ankle broken or something and lost five games,

1325
01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:24,880
Speaker 1: or right at the time when the Pro Bowl broke

1326
01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:27,400
Speaker 1: voting was going to take place. You know, staying on

1327
01:10:27,439 --> 01:10:28,880
Speaker 1: the field has been an issue for him, and it

1328
01:10:28,920 --> 01:10:32,080
Speaker 1: was an issue again this year. If you're gonna play,

1329
01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:36,560
Speaker 1: if you're gonna pay a guy that much money, availability

1330
01:10:37,160 --> 01:10:40,639
Speaker 1: is the best ability. And Milano has had that thing

1331
01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:44,200
Speaker 1: going against him. But when he's been out there, you

1332
01:10:44,360 --> 01:10:47,439
Speaker 1: can't argue the fact that he was maybe the most

1333
01:10:47,479 --> 01:10:50,559
Speaker 1: important defender on a consistent basis throughout throughout his time

1334
01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:54,799
Speaker 1: as a Buffalo bill Right, and then the other difficult

1335
01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:59,160
Speaker 1: decisions that crop up deal with As we said, maybe

1336
01:10:59,160 --> 01:11:02,479
Speaker 1: some of the higher ice players on your roster. Do

1337
01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:07,320
Speaker 1: you have to rethink Mitch Morse at eleven million dollars

1338
01:11:07,360 --> 01:11:10,519
Speaker 1: a year at center, at the top of the pyramid

1339
01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:14,880
Speaker 1: at the position, And do you say to yourself, well,

1340
01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:17,519
Speaker 1: we like Mitch Morris and what he gives our team.

1341
01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:20,320
Speaker 1: He's a valuable player, but he's at the top of

1342
01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:24,720
Speaker 1: the pyramid at the center position in the league. Can

1343
01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:28,360
Speaker 1: we afford to do that? Or is it more cost

1344
01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:32,760
Speaker 1: effective for us to resign John Feliciano at six and

1345
01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:35,599
Speaker 1: a half or seven million dollars a year, make him

1346
01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:39,280
Speaker 1: our starting center and then bring back Ike Butcker on

1347
01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:42,280
Speaker 1: a one year restricted free agent tender. And we still

1348
01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:46,160
Speaker 1: have Cody Ford under his rookie deal entering year three.

1349
01:11:46,479 --> 01:11:50,200
Speaker 1: And do we go Cody Ford, John Feliciano and Ike

1350
01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:53,719
Speaker 1: Butcker as your guard to guard combination and your starting lineup?

1351
01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:56,600
Speaker 1: And do you cut ties with Mitch Morris because of

1352
01:11:56,680 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 1: the cap implications. I'm not saying that's going to happen,

1353
01:12:00,479 --> 01:12:03,040
Speaker 1: but I bet you dollars to go on to something

1354
01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:04,640
Speaker 1: that's going to be discussed. Yeah, it's got to be.

1355
01:12:04,720 --> 01:12:08,280
Speaker 1: They're in a conversation about it and McDermott and this

1356
01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:11,600
Speaker 1: is where Brandon Being and Sean McDermott have. This is

1357
01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:15,160
Speaker 1: where even two guys who are as in lockstep as

1358
01:12:15,160 --> 01:12:18,360
Speaker 1: Brandon Being and Sean McDermott are, This is where they

1359
01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:20,439
Speaker 1: may diverge a little bit, have to have a serious

1360
01:12:20,479 --> 01:12:23,920
Speaker 1: conversation about listen, I get it and Brandon Being or

1361
01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:26,080
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott. It might be one of the Mitch Morse

1362
01:12:26,160 --> 01:12:27,439
Speaker 1: is one of the guys. He stands on the table

1363
01:12:27,479 --> 01:12:31,200
Speaker 1: for you know what I mean, right, And and we

1364
01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:34,400
Speaker 1: should make it clear Steve, They're not in this situation

1365
01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:38,400
Speaker 1: because of poor kaponomics by the front office. They're only

1366
01:12:38,439 --> 01:12:41,880
Speaker 1: in this situation because of COVID. They'd have twenty millions

1367
01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:45,320
Speaker 1: the Lost League revenues they're in. They wouldn't be at

1368
01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:49,440
Speaker 1: this crossroads were it not for COVID. This is pandemic induced.

1369
01:12:49,720 --> 01:12:53,080
Speaker 1: This is not because they properly. They didn't properly plan

1370
01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:55,960
Speaker 1: their cap situation year in, year out. I mean, we've

1371
01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:58,559
Speaker 1: heard Brandon Being say a time and again we want

1372
01:12:58,600 --> 01:13:01,320
Speaker 1: to remain cap straw. And had it not been for

1373
01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:04,000
Speaker 1: the pandemic, they wouldn't be in a position where they're

1374
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:06,120
Speaker 1: going to have to have these discussions about that's right.

1375
01:13:06,320 --> 01:13:08,280
Speaker 1: Can't we afford to keep Mitch more than eleven million

1376
01:13:08,320 --> 01:13:11,320
Speaker 1: dollars a year. That's the thing that really stinks about

1377
01:13:11,320 --> 01:13:13,840
Speaker 1: this whole thing. That's right. And I don't think, you know,

1378
01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:15,920
Speaker 1: I don't think the team's gonna come apart at the seams,

1379
01:13:16,000 --> 01:13:18,400
Speaker 1: roster wise, or anything else. I think there's gonna be

1380
01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:20,120
Speaker 1: plenty of good football players to go around. But I

1381
01:13:20,160 --> 01:13:22,519
Speaker 1: think you may it may be with a lot of

1382
01:13:22,520 --> 01:13:25,479
Speaker 1: new faces on this roster next year, a lot more

1383
01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:27,479
Speaker 1: new faces than they thought they were going to have

1384
01:13:27,560 --> 01:13:32,800
Speaker 1: to interchange to exchange when the season began. But you're right,

1385
01:13:33,280 --> 01:13:35,799
Speaker 1: and there's a good chance. And I'm kind of banking

1386
01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:38,200
Speaker 1: on this with the fact that the new TV deals

1387
01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:41,720
Speaker 1: are coming in and they got all two hundred and

1388
01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:44,120
Speaker 1: fifty six games and the playoffs and the Super Bowl

1389
01:13:44,240 --> 01:13:49,519
Speaker 1: in and prove they could do it in the most

1390
01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:54,640
Speaker 1: difficult of circumstances. The TV rights deals, I'll tell you what,

1391
01:13:54,720 --> 01:13:56,360
Speaker 1: you know who they're gonna rake over the coals as

1392
01:13:56,400 --> 01:13:59,120
Speaker 1: the TV people, because I'll tell you what, for what

1393
01:13:59,160 --> 01:14:01,879
Speaker 1: the league just went through to get those that product

1394
01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:04,160
Speaker 1: on the field for them, they're gonna have to pay

1395
01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:05,880
Speaker 1: through the nose and I'll tell you this too. For

1396
01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:08,560
Speaker 1: all for the ratings that these games drew during the

1397
01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:13,200
Speaker 1: Raider season, there they'll be willing to do it this number.

1398
01:14:13,240 --> 01:14:16,880
Speaker 1: I think this TV contract is gonna be it's gonna

1399
01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:20,960
Speaker 1: dwarf anything previous. And we're talking like fifteen billion dollar

1400
01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:24,840
Speaker 1: deals that it's gonna dwarf. And here is my hope, Steve,

1401
01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:27,000
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna ask for you to pull that list

1402
01:14:27,080 --> 01:14:29,320
Speaker 1: up again in terms of current cap space available for

1403
01:14:29,360 --> 01:14:33,639
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. Give me the big market teams at

1404
01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:36,040
Speaker 1: the bottom of that list. In the worst possible situation.

1405
01:14:36,520 --> 01:14:38,320
Speaker 1: Philly New Orleans is on the list. They're not a

1406
01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:42,600
Speaker 1: big market team, but Philly is Philly, Atlanta Atlanta. Pittsburgh's

1407
01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:46,960
Speaker 1: got problems. The Rams have got big problems. Where's Dallas,

1408
01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:52,360
Speaker 1: the Raiders. Dallas is actually in pretty good space. They

1409
01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:55,760
Speaker 1: are are They've got ten million bucks going in the

1410
01:14:55,960 --> 01:14:59,000
Speaker 1: above the cap or blow the cap, so they're okay, okay,

1411
01:14:59,280 --> 01:15:01,960
Speaker 1: But they don't have a quarterback. No, because they've got

1412
01:15:02,040 --> 01:15:06,080
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott is not under contract. They've got Here is

1413
01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:08,639
Speaker 1: my hope. And you can tell me if I'm talking

1414
01:15:08,640 --> 01:15:10,880
Speaker 1: out of school or I'm completely off the map here.

1415
01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:15,120
Speaker 1: Here is my hope. My hope is that the big

1416
01:15:15,160 --> 01:15:18,920
Speaker 1: market teams that have overspent and often spend to the

1417
01:15:19,000 --> 01:15:23,640
Speaker 1: cap or don't have a quarterback situation figured out. Some

1418
01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:28,320
Speaker 1: of those guys are on the league's Media committee. Jerry Jones,

1419
01:15:28,760 --> 01:15:33,240
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Lury, people like that when big market clubs that

1420
01:15:33,320 --> 01:15:36,560
Speaker 1: pull down the most revenue are in a bad situation.

1421
01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:40,240
Speaker 1: You can't tell me that they are not going to

1422
01:15:40,280 --> 01:15:44,639
Speaker 1: try to fast track these media rights negotiations to get

1423
01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:48,679
Speaker 1: the cap reinflated at least to one hundred and ninety

1424
01:15:48,680 --> 01:15:50,880
Speaker 1: five million, which is the highest number I have seen

1425
01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:55,920
Speaker 1: pending a rights deal being completed. Well, they are going

1426
01:15:56,000 --> 01:15:58,640
Speaker 1: to be fast tracking that thing to put themselves in

1427
01:15:58,640 --> 01:16:00,840
Speaker 1: the best position so they don't have to cut their

1428
01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:03,400
Speaker 1: best players. Well here's the thing, too, brownie. You got

1429
01:16:03,400 --> 01:16:07,440
Speaker 1: to remember. So whatever the budget is for these NFL teams,

1430
01:16:07,080 --> 01:16:11,240
Speaker 1: say the Caps two hundred million one or two hundred million,

1431
01:16:11,280 --> 01:16:12,720
Speaker 1: we'll say it's two hundred millions, just for the sake

1432
01:16:12,760 --> 01:16:16,839
Speaker 1: of rounding it a round. And they've got they're twenty

1433
01:16:16,840 --> 01:16:20,160
Speaker 1: five million dollars over the cap. Well you know what

1434
01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:25,479
Speaker 1: that means. It means that they are not allowed they're

1435
01:16:25,479 --> 01:16:27,599
Speaker 1: gonna have to cut those players that are putting them

1436
01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:31,360
Speaker 1: over the cap, first of all. And whatever dead money

1437
01:16:31,400 --> 01:16:34,720
Speaker 1: they have in that cap, it doesn't mean it go

1438
01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:37,280
Speaker 1: it's not there. It just means they're not allowed to

1439
01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:40,160
Speaker 1: pay their players that money, so that money virtually stays

1440
01:16:40,200 --> 01:16:44,400
Speaker 1: in their pocket, you know what I'm saying. So if

1441
01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:46,720
Speaker 1: the league, if the league is making two hundred and

1442
01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:51,160
Speaker 1: fifty million bucks and the cap is only two hundred million,

1443
01:16:51,240 --> 01:16:54,320
Speaker 1: the fifty million that's left over stays in their pocket.

1444
01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:57,200
Speaker 1: It's just they're not allowed to pay the players any

1445
01:16:57,200 --> 01:16:59,800
Speaker 1: of that. So don't think that the owners are crying

1446
01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:02,519
Speaker 1: because any anytime they go under, if they have money

1447
01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:04,880
Speaker 1: that's doesn't go to the cap, they certainly can roll

1448
01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:07,720
Speaker 1: it over like we've seen some of them do, right,

1449
01:17:08,280 --> 01:17:10,120
Speaker 1: But if they're not allowed to pay it, it stays

1450
01:17:10,160 --> 01:17:14,519
Speaker 1: in their pocket. It doesn't mean it's not there, right.

1451
01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:18,160
Speaker 1: I just think in the past, when we've seen large

1452
01:17:18,200 --> 01:17:24,000
Speaker 1: market franchises feel like they can't compete because of financial constraints,

1453
01:17:24,640 --> 01:17:29,280
Speaker 1: they find a way and the easiest path, the easiest

1454
01:17:29,320 --> 01:17:32,400
Speaker 1: path is to get the media rights deal done as

1455
01:17:32,439 --> 01:17:35,519
Speaker 1: soon as possible, and I believe that will be fast

1456
01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:41,519
Speaker 1: tracked to facilitate player movement, players signing, and minimize and

1457
01:17:41,600 --> 01:17:45,840
Speaker 1: mitigate the loss of marquee players on their roster, whether

1458
01:17:45,880 --> 01:17:47,960
Speaker 1: they use them in marketing campaigns or what it have you.

1459
01:17:48,400 --> 01:17:51,720
Speaker 1: And let's not forget this. There's upwards of ten to

1460
01:17:51,800 --> 01:17:54,960
Speaker 1: twelve maybe even more NFL clubs that are looking to

1461
01:17:54,960 --> 01:17:57,519
Speaker 1: get a better answer at quarterback. And we know that

1462
01:17:57,560 --> 01:18:00,320
Speaker 1: doesn't come with a small price tag either, going to

1463
01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:03,479
Speaker 1: be limited in that capacity as well to come up

1464
01:18:03,479 --> 01:18:07,720
Speaker 1: with an answer, yeah, not only fills the position, but

1465
01:18:07,920 --> 01:18:12,560
Speaker 1: is fiscally attainable. I think filling the position may be

1466
01:18:12,640 --> 01:18:15,519
Speaker 1: the easy part, right. I mean, you got guys like

1467
01:18:15,600 --> 01:18:20,840
Speaker 1: Stafford and you know, Jamis Winston, guys both ends of

1468
01:18:20,880 --> 01:18:24,240
Speaker 1: the spectrum. Philip Rivers is going to be gone. Um,

1469
01:18:24,560 --> 01:18:28,640
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson wants out. Sam Darnold's gonna get out. So

1470
01:18:28,640 --> 01:18:32,519
Speaker 1: they're gonna have a lot of names. Dak Yes, Dak Prescott.

1471
01:18:32,520 --> 01:18:34,080
Speaker 1: I mean we've we've gone down that list that the

1472
01:18:34,240 --> 01:18:36,920
Speaker 1: quarterback list of guys who are probably available, might be

1473
01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:40,200
Speaker 1: available is gonna be an extensive one like it was

1474
01:18:40,240 --> 01:18:44,000
Speaker 1: this last year, you know with Cam Newton, Philip Rivers,

1475
01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:47,720
Speaker 1: all those guys that were moving around Teddy Bridgewater. All

1476
01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:51,000
Speaker 1: the movement we saw in the quarterback market last year,

1477
01:18:51,000 --> 01:18:55,360
Speaker 1: with all these guys changing positions and changing teams, um,

1478
01:18:55,439 --> 01:18:57,800
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be even worse this year. The

1479
01:18:57,880 --> 01:19:01,800
Speaker 1: question is you know how much and are they gonna

1480
01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:03,240
Speaker 1: have to trade to get them or they just gonna

1481
01:19:03,240 --> 01:19:05,719
Speaker 1: pay them out right, and there's only a few teams

1482
01:19:05,720 --> 01:19:09,559
Speaker 1: that can afford that, right. We do want to set

1483
01:19:09,560 --> 01:19:12,680
Speaker 1: the table for you at eight oh three five fifty one,

1484
01:19:12,840 --> 01:19:15,120
Speaker 1: eight eight five fifty two, five fifty and on the

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Speaker 1: tweet sheet at one Bill's Live our Twitter poll today,

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01:19:18,200 --> 01:19:21,000
Speaker 1: what's the most important move for Bill's GM Brandon being

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01:19:21,080 --> 01:19:24,120
Speaker 1: this offseason? And we gave some choices, but we left

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01:19:24,160 --> 01:19:27,320
Speaker 1: the all two familiar d as others, so you can

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01:19:27,320 --> 01:19:29,320
Speaker 1: pick something else if none of these sing to you.

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01:19:30,040 --> 01:19:33,240
Speaker 1: First is a sign allen to a contract extension, which

1491
01:19:33,240 --> 01:19:35,679
Speaker 1: in light of the current cap situation that we've discussed,

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01:19:35,760 --> 01:19:37,880
Speaker 1: seems to be a bit of a long shot. B

1493
01:19:38,200 --> 01:19:40,960
Speaker 1: resign your own free agents, which again is going to

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01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:44,320
Speaker 1: be easier said than done. See address speed on both

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01:19:44,360 --> 01:19:46,240
Speaker 1: sides of the ball, which right now as the leader

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01:19:46,240 --> 01:19:48,280
Speaker 1: in the clubhouse in the early returns in the voting

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01:19:48,840 --> 01:19:51,559
Speaker 1: or d something else. And I think as we move

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01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:53,760
Speaker 1: through the show, Steve d is going to get more

1499
01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:58,640
Speaker 1: and more attraction because there are other things that have

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01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:01,720
Speaker 1: to be addressed here, namely making those hard decisions that

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01:20:01,760 --> 01:20:05,280
Speaker 1: Brandon being spoke of his press conference earlier today. So

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01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:07,960
Speaker 1: where this goes, I think is going to be a

1503
01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:11,519
Speaker 1: very interesting conversation as the show unfolds here into our

1504
01:20:11,640 --> 01:20:16,040
Speaker 1: number two. And I know everybody's hot to get Josh

1505
01:20:16,040 --> 01:20:19,360
Speaker 1: Allen signed to an extension. You gotta I think you

1506
01:20:19,360 --> 01:20:23,920
Speaker 1: got to push that off at least another year. You

1507
01:20:23,920 --> 01:20:27,599
Speaker 1: need to get you need to wait because well, unless

1508
01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:29,920
Speaker 1: it's the only thing that would that would prompt you

1509
01:20:29,960 --> 01:20:32,280
Speaker 1: to choose another course of action, Steve is if you

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01:20:32,320 --> 01:20:35,200
Speaker 1: can do something similar to what the Chiefs did with

1511
01:20:35,240 --> 01:20:39,040
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, which is have it be very cap friendly

1512
01:20:39,080 --> 01:20:43,240
Speaker 1: for the club in the first couple of years to maintain.

1513
01:20:43,640 --> 01:20:45,680
Speaker 1: Now that's in an effort to maintain what is a

1514
01:20:45,720 --> 01:20:49,679
Speaker 1: Super Bowl roster in Kansas City, But maybe you take

1515
01:20:49,760 --> 01:20:54,360
Speaker 1: that course of action to afford yourself some flexibility in

1516
01:20:54,479 --> 01:20:56,920
Speaker 1: light of the current situation. Now, I think that would

1517
01:20:56,960 --> 01:21:00,560
Speaker 1: prompt plenty of concessions on the Josh all inside of

1518
01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:03,760
Speaker 1: the ledger to make that happen, and maybe they're not

1519
01:21:03,840 --> 01:21:05,600
Speaker 1: willing to do that. I don't know. I'm not going

1520
01:21:05,640 --> 01:21:09,160
Speaker 1: to speak for Josh and his representatives, but it might

1521
01:21:09,200 --> 01:21:12,160
Speaker 1: be at least something too. It might be a subject

1522
01:21:12,200 --> 01:21:14,439
Speaker 1: to it, at least broach to see if that's a

1523
01:21:14,479 --> 01:21:17,320
Speaker 1: potential way out of what is a tight cap situation

1524
01:21:17,360 --> 01:21:20,960
Speaker 1: because of COVID. Right the reason I say, you know,

1525
01:21:20,960 --> 01:21:22,840
Speaker 1: you can wait on Josh. He's got two years left

1526
01:21:22,840 --> 01:21:25,720
Speaker 1: on his deal, and certainly, if you can sign a

1527
01:21:25,800 --> 01:21:28,120
Speaker 1: deal that makes sense for the club, like the Chiefs

1528
01:21:28,120 --> 01:21:33,880
Speaker 1: did with Mahomes, you do it. But I think given

1529
01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:36,519
Speaker 1: the fact that the cab is getting cut by, you know,

1530
01:21:36,760 --> 01:21:41,840
Speaker 1: thirty million bucks, it might be smart not to do

1531
01:21:41,920 --> 01:21:44,280
Speaker 1: make thirty or forty million bucks, depending on where it

1532
01:21:44,320 --> 01:21:48,800
Speaker 1: could have gone. I think you really, you know, got

1533
01:21:48,800 --> 01:21:50,920
Speaker 1: to say, wait a minute, let's let's take care of

1534
01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:55,519
Speaker 1: this roster this year with the money we've got. Because

1535
01:21:55,560 --> 01:21:57,840
Speaker 1: you can talk even five million bucks, it's kind of

1536
01:21:58,160 --> 01:22:00,200
Speaker 1: kind of go a long way. I think this offseason

1537
01:22:00,240 --> 01:22:02,000
Speaker 1: with the market that's going to be out there, so

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01:22:02,080 --> 01:22:05,320
Speaker 1: I don't know, I think Josh kind of goes down

1539
01:22:05,360 --> 01:22:07,760
Speaker 1: the pecking order a little bit. Certainly, he ultimately is

1540
01:22:07,760 --> 01:22:10,880
Speaker 1: the most important spot on the roster you got to

1541
01:22:10,920 --> 01:22:14,040
Speaker 1: take care of. But you got two years, two full

1542
01:22:14,040 --> 01:22:17,519
Speaker 1: seasons to think about it and to start talking. And

1543
01:22:18,400 --> 01:22:21,519
Speaker 1: so I think given the environment we're sitting around here

1544
01:22:21,520 --> 01:22:23,519
Speaker 1: talking about now, I think there are a lot more

1545
01:22:23,640 --> 01:22:29,719
Speaker 1: urgent topics that you need to address. Yeah, I kind

1546
01:22:29,720 --> 01:22:32,600
Speaker 1: of we've never been in this spot before with the

1547
01:22:32,680 --> 01:22:35,559
Speaker 1: league in terms of, you know, the revenue stream, because

1548
01:22:35,880 --> 01:22:37,880
Speaker 1: the cap has always gone up ten to twelve million

1549
01:22:37,920 --> 01:22:40,040
Speaker 1: dollars a year at least in the last five or

1550
01:22:40,080 --> 01:22:43,880
Speaker 1: six years, and everybody projected that and then COVID hit

1551
01:22:43,960 --> 01:22:47,040
Speaker 1: and it's completely changed the dynamic. And I don't want

1552
01:22:47,080 --> 01:22:50,360
Speaker 1: to be I don't want to be accused of overstating

1553
01:22:50,360 --> 01:22:53,879
Speaker 1: it or exaggerating this, But for a lot of teams,

1554
01:22:54,439 --> 01:22:57,800
Speaker 1: this is a scorched earth scenario that they're entering this offseason.

1555
01:22:58,880 --> 01:23:02,040
Speaker 1: Scorched earth. You are right, think about it. It's gonna

1556
01:23:02,040 --> 01:23:04,400
Speaker 1: be two twenty, say, for instance, it was gonna be

1557
01:23:04,439 --> 01:23:08,679
Speaker 1: two twelve, somewhere between the well Brandon being said today

1558
01:23:08,720 --> 01:23:11,000
Speaker 1: somewhere between two ten and two fifteen. So let's just say,

1559
01:23:11,000 --> 01:23:14,320
Speaker 1: for arguments sake, two twelve. Okay, and now it's gonna

1560
01:23:14,320 --> 01:23:18,360
Speaker 1: be what a buck ninety maybe, well a buck ninety

1561
01:23:18,439 --> 01:23:20,720
Speaker 1: at best, the buck ninety five at best. That's the

1562
01:23:20,840 --> 01:23:25,400
Speaker 1: highest projected cap figure i've seen thrown out there, assuming

1563
01:23:25,720 --> 01:23:28,680
Speaker 1: the media rights deal is done before everybody's got to

1564
01:23:28,720 --> 01:23:30,840
Speaker 1: get under the cap before free agency opens in the

1565
01:23:30,840 --> 01:23:33,080
Speaker 1: current league year ends. The bottom it could the worst.

1566
01:23:33,080 --> 01:23:34,760
Speaker 1: It could be one seventy five, because they set a

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01:23:34,800 --> 01:23:37,960
Speaker 1: floor and they'll just borrow against future years to make

1568
01:23:37,960 --> 01:23:40,000
Speaker 1: it that one. And the best is one nine, the

1569
01:23:40,040 --> 01:23:41,960
Speaker 1: best is one ninety. So let's say and the one

1570
01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:44,280
Speaker 1: seventy five number is higher for all the teams that

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01:23:44,320 --> 01:23:46,840
Speaker 1: have been able to roll cap money over from this

1572
01:23:46,920 --> 01:23:48,800
Speaker 1: year to next year. But from what I've seen, the

1573
01:23:48,840 --> 01:23:50,719
Speaker 1: bills have only been able to roll over somewhere around

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01:23:50,800 --> 01:23:53,360
Speaker 1: three and a half to four. So let's say, let's

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01:23:53,360 --> 01:23:55,479
Speaker 1: just say twenty one. Let's say it's pretty good but

1576
01:23:55,520 --> 01:23:58,919
Speaker 1: not great. Say it's one eighty five off of two twelve.

1577
01:24:01,280 --> 01:24:05,599
Speaker 1: Do that public math for me. That's fifteen million, twenty

1578
01:24:05,680 --> 01:24:10,240
Speaker 1: that's thirty seven million, twenty seven million dollars, Is that right?

1579
01:24:10,280 --> 01:24:13,280
Speaker 1: Thirty seven twenty seven whatever, twenty seven million dollars well,

1580
01:24:13,320 --> 01:24:18,560
Speaker 1: if you had it eighty five to two twelve, yeah,

1581
01:24:18,600 --> 01:24:23,960
Speaker 1: it's twenty seven. Yeah, that's that's a ton of caschasm.

1582
01:24:24,400 --> 01:24:27,800
Speaker 1: That's a ton of cash that they don't have. So

1583
01:24:28,800 --> 01:24:32,679
Speaker 1: and they would be twenty million bucks under the cap

1584
01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:40,160
Speaker 1: right now. Twenty million. Yeah. It's a crusher. It's an

1585
01:24:40,160 --> 01:24:43,920
Speaker 1: absolute crusher. It's a complete one eighty from where you

1586
01:24:43,960 --> 01:24:45,800
Speaker 1: thought you were going to be, and so now it's

1587
01:24:45,800 --> 01:24:50,960
Speaker 1: just like, holy cow, we really have to reset our priorities,

1588
01:24:51,680 --> 01:24:55,400
Speaker 1: determine what we can accomplish in the short term, determine

1589
01:24:55,439 --> 01:24:58,920
Speaker 1: how we construct your contracts in such a way where

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01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:03,639
Speaker 1: maybe we can get an agreement from a player to say, hey,

1591
01:25:03,760 --> 01:25:05,360
Speaker 1: we sign it to a one year deal on the

1592
01:25:05,439 --> 01:25:08,280
Speaker 1: cheap now, but we honor that next year and sign

1593
01:25:08,320 --> 01:25:11,439
Speaker 1: you to you know, it's almost like you're asking for

1594
01:25:12,280 --> 01:25:15,400
Speaker 1: io us in a way, Steve, And you know now

1595
01:25:15,400 --> 01:25:18,479
Speaker 1: that I'm thinking through it again, here's another layer to this.

1596
01:25:18,600 --> 01:25:21,040
Speaker 1: We think about how Brandon Bean and this Builds front

1597
01:25:21,080 --> 01:25:27,480
Speaker 1: office has been so successful in finding affordable free agents

1598
01:25:27,520 --> 01:25:31,320
Speaker 1: signing them to one year proven deals. There might be

1599
01:25:31,320 --> 01:25:33,439
Speaker 1: some players that you can find to do that at

1600
01:25:33,479 --> 01:25:37,360
Speaker 1: below market value. Because of the current COVID situation. But

1601
01:25:37,439 --> 01:25:40,080
Speaker 1: I wonder if those players and those agents are going

1602
01:25:40,120 --> 01:25:43,960
Speaker 1: to come back and say, you know what, I will

1603
01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:47,439
Speaker 1: honor and accept you giving me a contract at below

1604
01:25:47,520 --> 01:25:50,200
Speaker 1: market value because I want to play and I want

1605
01:25:50,240 --> 01:25:53,240
Speaker 1: to prove that I am a valuable player superior to

1606
01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:55,200
Speaker 1: what you're going to give me this year. But now

1607
01:25:55,240 --> 01:25:57,320
Speaker 1: I need it. Now I need a second year on

1608
01:25:57,360 --> 01:25:59,479
Speaker 1: that deal. I'm not taking a one year deal at

1609
01:25:59,479 --> 01:26:01,519
Speaker 1: below mark value unless you're going to commit to me

1610
01:26:01,560 --> 01:26:03,800
Speaker 1: for a second year and some of that second year

1611
01:26:03,800 --> 01:26:06,360
Speaker 1: of money is going to be guaranteed. I could see

1612
01:26:06,560 --> 01:26:10,439
Speaker 1: NFL agents and players demanding that if they're going to

1613
01:26:10,520 --> 01:26:14,719
Speaker 1: take less in this COVID struck year, and it's gonna

1614
01:26:14,760 --> 01:26:18,640
Speaker 1: get hairy, it's gonna get complicated. Yeah, if you want to,

1615
01:26:18,680 --> 01:26:21,400
Speaker 1: if you want a horror story, go look at the

1616
01:26:21,439 --> 01:26:25,679
Speaker 1: New Orleans Saints salary cap situation. Oh I can't even

1617
01:26:25,720 --> 01:26:31,520
Speaker 1: look at it. It's rough. It's rough, really rough. So yeah,

1618
01:26:31,560 --> 01:26:33,519
Speaker 1: all right, we have to take a break. We are

1619
01:26:33,600 --> 01:26:35,760
Speaker 1: up against it here. But when Steve and I come back,

1620
01:26:35,800 --> 01:26:37,559
Speaker 1: we will discuss more of this and some of the

1621
01:26:37,600 --> 01:26:40,960
Speaker 1: other topics that Brandon being covered. We also want to

1622
01:26:41,000 --> 01:26:44,040
Speaker 1: remind you that coming up at one o'clock in the

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01:26:44,080 --> 01:26:47,160
Speaker 1: second hour of our normal programming, we will have former

1624
01:26:47,320 --> 01:26:50,360
Speaker 1: NFL Front Office executive Mark Ross now an NFL analyst

1625
01:26:50,360 --> 01:26:53,519
Speaker 1: for NFL Network, and we'll talk to him about some

1626
01:26:53,600 --> 01:26:56,400
Speaker 1: of this as well. In addition to that, we'll also

1627
01:26:56,439 --> 01:26:58,759
Speaker 1: ask him a little bit about Leslie Frazier's head coaching

1628
01:26:58,800 --> 01:27:03,600
Speaker 1: candidacy in Houston, having previously worked with him in Philadelphia.

1629
01:27:03,640 --> 01:27:05,559
Speaker 1: You're listening to One Bills Live presented by a Lot

1630
01:27:05,560 --> 01:27:22,960
Speaker 1: of Health. This is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to

1631
01:27:23,000 --> 01:27:25,360
Speaker 1: One Bills Live, first ground seeing a tasker with you.

1632
01:27:26,560 --> 01:27:30,519
Speaker 1: Got a brief segment here before we bring one Mark

1633
01:27:30,640 --> 01:27:34,400
Speaker 1: Ross in from NFL Network, former NFL Front Office executive,

1634
01:27:34,960 --> 01:27:38,320
Speaker 1: but Steve the more I'm thinking about ways for the

1635
01:27:38,360 --> 01:27:42,400
Speaker 1: Bills to navigate their way around the COVID pandemic induced

1636
01:27:42,439 --> 01:27:45,680
Speaker 1: revenue shortfall that has dropped the cap to what could

1637
01:27:45,720 --> 01:27:48,400
Speaker 1: be anywhere between one seventy five to one hundred eighty

1638
01:27:48,400 --> 01:27:51,320
Speaker 1: million dollars. If they get media rights deals done, maybe

1639
01:27:51,680 --> 01:27:55,760
Speaker 1: maybe they get to one nine five another thing that

1640
01:27:55,760 --> 01:27:57,839
Speaker 1: they could probably turn to. And I wouldn't be surprised

1641
01:27:57,840 --> 01:28:02,600
Speaker 1: if we see some of this extending existing contracts like

1642
01:28:02,720 --> 01:28:06,599
Speaker 1: perfect example, John Brown twenty twenty one, entering the last

1643
01:28:06,640 --> 01:28:09,120
Speaker 1: year of his deal, thirty one years of age. Do

1644
01:28:09,160 --> 01:28:13,000
Speaker 1: you attack an extra year on to try to, you know, say, oh, well,

1645
01:28:13,080 --> 01:28:15,800
Speaker 1: we'll extend you one more year. We'll give you some

1646
01:28:15,840 --> 01:28:19,000
Speaker 1: more guaranteed money up front, just to alleviate the cap

1647
01:28:19,080 --> 01:28:21,719
Speaker 1: situation here in twenty twenty one. Maybe extend him twenty

1648
01:28:21,800 --> 01:28:25,200
Speaker 1: twenty two. Maybe they do that with some players to

1649
01:28:25,360 --> 01:28:28,360
Speaker 1: lighten the burden that they're facing here in the offseason.

1650
01:28:28,439 --> 01:28:30,599
Speaker 1: Just your thoughts on that. Yeah, it's interesting too, because

1651
01:28:30,600 --> 01:28:32,840
Speaker 1: you think you would think that the cap would would

1652
01:28:32,880 --> 01:28:36,960
Speaker 1: skyrocket as well. Once it does, the money rights do

1653
01:28:37,040 --> 01:28:39,479
Speaker 1: come in and fans start coming back into the stadiums

1654
01:28:39,479 --> 01:28:42,400
Speaker 1: and buying tickets, you would think that the cap would

1655
01:28:42,479 --> 01:28:45,160
Speaker 1: probably recover pretty quickly over the next year or two.

1656
01:28:46,080 --> 01:28:48,000
Speaker 1: Certainly in three years, you'd think they'd be kind of

1657
01:28:48,000 --> 01:28:51,360
Speaker 1: back to least where they were probably above it. But

1658
01:28:53,040 --> 01:28:56,040
Speaker 1: I don't know that they. I don't feel like the

1659
01:28:56,120 --> 01:28:59,680
Speaker 1: clubs would be smart doing that. Brownie. You got to know,

1660
01:28:59,720 --> 01:29:01,960
Speaker 1: this be some really quality players out there, and as

1661
01:29:02,040 --> 01:29:04,080
Speaker 1: much as you love and respect John Brown, you know

1662
01:29:04,080 --> 01:29:05,960
Speaker 1: what you owe it to the organization to get the

1663
01:29:06,000 --> 01:29:11,120
Speaker 1: best guy. And you know, if if it's between John

1664
01:29:11,160 --> 01:29:14,680
Speaker 1: Brown and a Mike Evans, or John Brown and a

1665
01:29:14,800 --> 01:29:17,000
Speaker 1: Julio Jones or John Brown, you know what I'm saying,

1666
01:29:17,520 --> 01:29:20,679
Speaker 1: Because some of these teams, they're they gotta cut loose

1667
01:29:21,439 --> 01:29:26,120
Speaker 1: some unbelievably gifted players. So if you can go one

1668
01:29:26,240 --> 01:29:30,080
Speaker 1: for one, you do it. So I don't think they

1669
01:29:30,120 --> 01:29:32,680
Speaker 1: will do any of this until they find out east Hey,

1670
01:29:32,800 --> 01:29:34,960
Speaker 1: what the exact cap exactly is going to be, and

1671
01:29:35,000 --> 01:29:37,880
Speaker 1: then assess what their opponents and what their other teams

1672
01:29:37,880 --> 01:29:39,120
Speaker 1: in the league are going to have to do with

1673
01:29:39,160 --> 01:29:43,720
Speaker 1: their guys. I think I think you. I think you

1674
01:29:44,720 --> 01:29:47,320
Speaker 1: whittle your roster all the way down to the absolute

1675
01:29:47,360 --> 01:29:51,120
Speaker 1: non negotiables, like you know which guys on your roster

1676
01:29:51,240 --> 01:29:56,400
Speaker 1: are absolutely non negotiable, Tradevious White, Josh Allen, you know

1677
01:29:56,680 --> 01:29:59,439
Speaker 1: who else? Who's it going to be, and then go

1678
01:29:59,520 --> 01:30:01,800
Speaker 1: from there because everything else you could restruct with the

1679
01:30:01,800 --> 01:30:03,639
Speaker 1: guys that are going to get released. In my opinion,

1680
01:30:04,160 --> 01:30:05,840
Speaker 1: the guys are going to get released because of the

1681
01:30:05,880 --> 01:30:08,240
Speaker 1: cap casualties in the National Football Like you could construct

1682
01:30:08,240 --> 01:30:11,479
Speaker 1: an all pro roster from it. Oh yeah, you couldn't.

1683
01:30:12,120 --> 01:30:14,360
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think there's any question you got coach

1684
01:30:14,439 --> 01:30:18,560
Speaker 1: that opportunity, and I would say going for yeah, but

1685
01:30:18,960 --> 01:30:20,920
Speaker 1: you're you're limited in what you can do to begin

1686
01:30:20,960 --> 01:30:23,680
Speaker 1: with because of your own cap situation. That's that's the

1687
01:30:23,760 --> 01:30:27,400
Speaker 1: rub here for the Bills. Like that's all fine and well,

1688
01:30:27,479 --> 01:30:30,000
Speaker 1: that all these talented veteran players are going to be

1689
01:30:30,000 --> 01:30:32,280
Speaker 1: out there that are going to have to get released

1690
01:30:32,280 --> 01:30:34,599
Speaker 1: by teams into worst cap situation than the Bills because

1691
01:30:34,600 --> 01:30:37,439
Speaker 1: to the COVID pandemic. But it's not like the Bills

1692
01:30:37,439 --> 01:30:39,920
Speaker 1: are going to be aggressive. I mean, Brandon being said

1693
01:30:39,920 --> 01:30:42,360
Speaker 1: at himself, we're not going to be aggressive in free agency.

1694
01:30:42,400 --> 01:30:45,800
Speaker 1: We can't because of our cap situation. And you know,

1695
01:30:45,960 --> 01:30:47,960
Speaker 1: if you cut a ten million dollar player to try

1696
01:30:47,960 --> 01:30:51,479
Speaker 1: to get another ten million dollar player, okay, maybe, but

1697
01:30:52,439 --> 01:30:54,679
Speaker 1: I don't see the Bills being one of those knee

1698
01:30:54,720 --> 01:30:57,080
Speaker 1: jerk type teams doing that because you have to be

1699
01:30:57,080 --> 01:30:58,800
Speaker 1: convinced you're going to get that guy in the door

1700
01:30:58,880 --> 01:31:01,400
Speaker 1: first and sign them before you make that kind of

1701
01:31:01,400 --> 01:31:06,080
Speaker 1: a decision. And that's why, Yeah, maybe you got to

1702
01:31:06,120 --> 01:31:08,599
Speaker 1: make some tough decisions and part with some players who

1703
01:31:08,640 --> 01:31:12,160
Speaker 1: maybe might not be interested in restructuring their contracts or

1704
01:31:12,479 --> 01:31:15,200
Speaker 1: maybe tacking on an extra year to get some cap relief.

1705
01:31:16,120 --> 01:31:19,200
Speaker 1: But I think looking at the roster today, you have

1706
01:31:19,240 --> 01:31:22,080
Speaker 1: to believe the only guys that are completely safe besides

1707
01:31:22,200 --> 01:31:24,760
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, as you mentioned, are guys that are still

1708
01:31:24,840 --> 01:31:29,439
Speaker 1: on their rookie contracts because they are affordable. It's those

1709
01:31:29,479 --> 01:31:34,280
Speaker 1: middle market veteran players that are going to get crucified

1710
01:31:34,800 --> 01:31:38,599
Speaker 1: and players that are no longer worth what they're getting

1711
01:31:38,600 --> 01:31:41,479
Speaker 1: paid right now. That's probably what we're looking at. The

1712
01:31:41,560 --> 01:31:43,479
Speaker 1: jj Watts of the world. At seventeen and a half

1713
01:31:43,520 --> 01:31:45,200
Speaker 1: million dollars cap figure, they are not going to be

1714
01:31:45,240 --> 01:31:48,479
Speaker 1: on the rosters they currently are on because their market

1715
01:31:48,560 --> 01:31:51,240
Speaker 1: value does not fit what they give a team anymore,

1716
01:31:51,360 --> 01:31:55,000
Speaker 1: and the cap situation only accelerates those departures. All Right,

1717
01:31:55,000 --> 01:31:56,679
Speaker 1: we have to take a break, but when we return,

1718
01:31:57,080 --> 01:32:01,120
Speaker 1: it's Mark Ross from NFL Network, NFL and former front

1719
01:32:01,120 --> 01:32:04,880
Speaker 1: office executive. We're going to talk with him about some

1720
01:32:04,960 --> 01:32:08,240
Speaker 1: of what is staring at these NFL clubs square in

1721
01:32:08,240 --> 01:32:11,479
Speaker 1: the face with this reduced cap for the twenty twenty

1722
01:32:11,520 --> 01:32:13,519
Speaker 1: one seaston what that means, and we'll also talk to

1723
01:32:13,640 --> 01:32:16,360
Speaker 1: him a little bit about Leslie Frazier's head coach and

1724
01:32:16,439 --> 01:32:19,519
Speaker 1: candidacy in Houston. All that coming up next here on

1725
01:32:19,520 --> 01:32:21,200
Speaker 1: One Bill's Life, there's anybody for a lot of health,

1726
01:32:21,200 --> 01:32:42,080
Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bills Radio ad a Steve Tasker who has

1727
01:32:42,080 --> 01:32:44,400
Speaker 1: spent all all over her field. Kind of unique. He

1728
01:32:44,400 --> 01:32:47,719
Speaker 1: was kind of a dual role player for Steve a lily,

1729
01:32:47,920 --> 01:32:52,840
Speaker 1: Steve a blimp. We're not even in the strated fear

1730
01:32:53,240 --> 01:33:01,800
Speaker 1: of normalcy. Welcome to what is a bonus hour. This

1731
01:33:02,000 --> 01:33:04,160
Speaker 1: is the third hour, usually the second hour of the program,

1732
01:33:04,160 --> 01:33:06,080
Speaker 1: but we were on earlier joining your brand in Bean's

1733
01:33:06,640 --> 01:33:10,799
Speaker 1: comments and his season wrap up press conference and joining

1734
01:33:10,880 --> 01:33:14,439
Speaker 1: us on the line right now is a former NFL

1735
01:33:14,640 --> 01:33:17,720
Speaker 1: personnel executive with the Giants and Eagles. I think this

1736
01:33:17,760 --> 01:33:21,200
Speaker 1: guy was a college scouting director Steve at age twenty seven,

1737
01:33:21,479 --> 01:33:25,519
Speaker 1: that is insane, but now with NFL Network and breaking

1738
01:33:25,520 --> 01:33:27,080
Speaker 1: down the league for a lot of people, and they'll

1739
01:33:27,120 --> 01:33:29,360
Speaker 1: do that here for us now it is one Mark

1740
01:33:29,439 --> 01:33:32,400
Speaker 1: Ross joining us and Mark, how you doing? It's off

1741
01:33:32,400 --> 01:33:35,240
Speaker 1: season time. This is when people that are in positions

1742
01:33:35,240 --> 01:33:37,000
Speaker 1: like the ones you held are just getting to work

1743
01:33:37,000 --> 01:33:39,720
Speaker 1: now right to exactly everybody thinks the season's over, like

1744
01:33:39,760 --> 01:33:42,240
Speaker 1: all right, what do you do now? Is like actually

1745
01:33:42,400 --> 01:33:46,439
Speaker 1: a lot busier in the season. But Chris, don't over again.

1746
01:33:46,479 --> 01:33:48,120
Speaker 1: I took I did a three year bid up there

1747
01:33:48,160 --> 01:33:51,000
Speaker 1: in Buffalo. Oh yeah I remember, Yeah, don't don't. That's

1748
01:33:51,040 --> 01:33:52,920
Speaker 1: the most important three years in my life right there.

1749
01:33:53,760 --> 01:33:56,320
Speaker 1: Look at you. Look at you. He's putting. He's laying

1750
01:33:56,320 --> 01:33:59,200
Speaker 1: the butter on already here. Look at that. Well, yeah,

1751
01:33:59,200 --> 01:34:02,120
Speaker 1: you know, Steve, Steve and I have been knocking around.

1752
01:34:02,160 --> 01:34:04,679
Speaker 1: You know a lot of these tough decisions that are

1753
01:34:04,760 --> 01:34:07,479
Speaker 1: going to have to be undertaken by a lot of

1754
01:34:07,520 --> 01:34:13,200
Speaker 1: front offices around the league. And with this COVID induced

1755
01:34:13,320 --> 01:34:17,320
Speaker 1: cap that has kind of gripped the entire league. Obviously,

1756
01:34:17,360 --> 01:34:20,240
Speaker 1: some teams are in a lot worse positions than others.

1757
01:34:20,280 --> 01:34:23,280
Speaker 1: But even Brandon Bean today in his season wrap up

1758
01:34:23,280 --> 01:34:25,960
Speaker 1: conference via zoom with the Media today, Mark was saying,

1759
01:34:26,520 --> 01:34:29,240
Speaker 1: they are going to be faced with some tough decisions.

1760
01:34:29,280 --> 01:34:31,439
Speaker 1: And this is a team that has made a point

1761
01:34:31,920 --> 01:34:35,440
Speaker 1: since he and Sean McDermott have taken over of remaining

1762
01:34:35,840 --> 01:34:39,280
Speaker 1: Caps strong. But even this COVID pandemic situation is going

1763
01:34:39,320 --> 01:34:44,040
Speaker 1: to put the Bills in a tough spot this offseason. Yeah, definitely. Well,

1764
01:34:44,080 --> 01:34:46,559
Speaker 1: this is again the offseason when every team faces with

1765
01:34:47,200 --> 01:34:49,720
Speaker 1: the cap and what are the reasons for that? One,

1766
01:34:49,760 --> 01:34:51,479
Speaker 1: you got a bunch of good players that you've had

1767
01:34:51,520 --> 01:34:53,679
Speaker 1: to pay over the years, that should be the reason

1768
01:34:53,720 --> 01:34:55,760
Speaker 1: why you may be over the cap. Or you make

1769
01:34:56,479 --> 01:34:59,000
Speaker 1: some bad contracts and you pay guys that you shouldn't

1770
01:34:59,000 --> 01:35:01,679
Speaker 1: have paid. So what it just all depends on which

1771
01:35:01,680 --> 01:35:03,639
Speaker 1: team you're talking about and why they're in the cap

1772
01:35:03,680 --> 01:35:08,720
Speaker 1: situation that they're in. Um, But how do you rectify that?

1773
01:35:08,920 --> 01:35:11,479
Speaker 1: You know, you got to restructure some deals. You have

1774
01:35:11,560 --> 01:35:14,920
Speaker 1: to make the tough decisions to cut players that you

1775
01:35:15,000 --> 01:35:17,439
Speaker 1: don't want to cut, or get out of some bad

1776
01:35:17,520 --> 01:35:19,720
Speaker 1: deals that you had before. And as you mentioned with

1777
01:35:19,760 --> 01:35:23,160
Speaker 1: the the state of the flux, with the what is

1778
01:35:23,360 --> 01:35:25,759
Speaker 1: the salary cap going to be next year because of COVID,

1779
01:35:26,320 --> 01:35:29,240
Speaker 1: then you have to deal with those sort of machinations

1780
01:35:29,280 --> 01:35:31,920
Speaker 1: and have your cap guys make sure they're strong and

1781
01:35:31,920 --> 01:35:35,960
Speaker 1: everybody's on the same page of all right, prioritize the

1782
01:35:36,040 --> 01:35:39,760
Speaker 1: players we must keep, the players we can work around,

1783
01:35:39,800 --> 01:35:41,320
Speaker 1: and the players that we have to get rid of

1784
01:35:41,400 --> 01:35:45,120
Speaker 1: to get back strong. And that kind of boils down

1785
01:35:45,160 --> 01:35:49,400
Speaker 1: to you know, this offseason where think about this as well. Mark,

1786
01:35:49,439 --> 01:35:51,479
Speaker 1: I mean, you've got a team like Buffalo or some

1787
01:35:51,560 --> 01:35:53,360
Speaker 1: other teams that are right around where the cap is

1788
01:35:53,400 --> 01:35:55,920
Speaker 1: gonna be. They anticipated being well under, but now they're

1789
01:35:55,920 --> 01:35:57,280
Speaker 1: gonna be right at it and they're gonna be Some

1790
01:35:57,280 --> 01:35:59,479
Speaker 1: teams have a lot of money to spend, and some

1791
01:35:59,520 --> 01:36:01,640
Speaker 1: other teams that have got are the are gonna be

1792
01:36:01,640 --> 01:36:03,479
Speaker 1: the other end of it. So you've got on the

1793
01:36:03,479 --> 01:36:06,200
Speaker 1: bottom of the spectrum. You got teams like you know,

1794
01:36:06,640 --> 01:36:10,719
Speaker 1: the Saints, the Philadelphia Eagles, these teams that are really

1795
01:36:10,760 --> 01:36:15,760
Speaker 1: struggling with their cap numbers having to jettison players. You've

1796
01:36:15,760 --> 01:36:22,240
Speaker 1: got other teams like the Dolphins, the Jets that yeah, Jacksonville,

1797
01:36:22,680 --> 01:36:26,880
Speaker 1: the Patriots, they can they can buy those players. And

1798
01:36:26,920 --> 01:36:28,320
Speaker 1: then you got the ones in the middle that are

1799
01:36:28,360 --> 01:36:30,200
Speaker 1: just like Brandon being said today, you guys, hope you

1800
01:36:30,280 --> 01:36:33,200
Speaker 1: draft well because you're gonna have to replace guys. You

1801
01:36:33,240 --> 01:36:35,160
Speaker 1: know everybody wants to draft Dell. I get that. But

1802
01:36:35,520 --> 01:36:38,080
Speaker 1: you know there's gonna be a huge shift in some

1803
01:36:38,160 --> 01:36:40,639
Speaker 1: great players that are gonna go to teams or migrate

1804
01:36:40,680 --> 01:36:44,080
Speaker 1: to teams with money to spend, no question. You see

1805
01:36:44,120 --> 01:36:47,280
Speaker 1: it every year, and um, you see some guys get paid,

1806
01:36:47,360 --> 01:36:49,320
Speaker 1: like why did that guy get paid? Well? The money's there,

1807
01:36:49,320 --> 01:36:51,080
Speaker 1: and that's what the free market is to pay this

1808
01:36:51,160 --> 01:36:53,240
Speaker 1: certain player. And I'm sure some guys that will leave

1809
01:36:53,280 --> 01:36:56,639
Speaker 1: the bills, and most happens with teams that are really good,

1810
01:36:57,040 --> 01:36:59,559
Speaker 1: and some of those fringe players for those teams are

1811
01:36:59,600 --> 01:37:03,040
Speaker 1: good players will get overpaid from some of those rising

1812
01:37:03,080 --> 01:37:06,360
Speaker 1: teams because they think, okay, well, that's the formula. We

1813
01:37:06,400 --> 01:37:07,880
Speaker 1: need to get that guy who's been part of a

1814
01:37:07,920 --> 01:37:10,920
Speaker 1: winning culture and he can change our culture and change

1815
01:37:10,920 --> 01:37:13,160
Speaker 1: our team and add to the winning culture of our team.

1816
01:37:13,240 --> 01:37:17,200
Speaker 1: So you'll see that where you guys or the Saints,

1817
01:37:17,479 --> 01:37:19,640
Speaker 1: for example, talked about the teams that drafted well and

1818
01:37:19,680 --> 01:37:21,320
Speaker 1: have a lot of good players and that's why they're

1819
01:37:21,360 --> 01:37:24,080
Speaker 1: in a cap situation where the guys will leave the

1820
01:37:24,120 --> 01:37:28,000
Speaker 1: Saints and get overpaid. So you'll see that kind of switch.

1821
01:37:28,120 --> 01:37:31,200
Speaker 1: Some will be justified, some won't be. But that's just

1822
01:37:31,240 --> 01:37:34,000
Speaker 1: what the market is and that dictates what the players

1823
01:37:34,040 --> 01:37:36,200
Speaker 1: should get. And with the NFL players, you know the

1824
01:37:36,320 --> 01:37:40,000
Speaker 1: short you know, lifespan of an NFL player. I don't

1825
01:37:40,000 --> 01:37:42,280
Speaker 1: I don't blame those guys that get what they can

1826
01:37:42,320 --> 01:37:45,200
Speaker 1: get while they can, but it should be trying to

1827
01:37:45,200 --> 01:37:48,559
Speaker 1: get to the best situation for them their career and

1828
01:37:48,680 --> 01:37:52,000
Speaker 1: the fit of trying to win. But some guy's got

1829
01:37:52,000 --> 01:37:53,920
Speaker 1: to get paid as well. Yeah, and I don't want

1830
01:37:53,920 --> 01:37:56,280
Speaker 1: to throw Western New York into a panic with this,

1831
01:37:56,400 --> 01:37:59,479
Speaker 1: because you know, Buffalo isn't in quite the scorchedarts scenario

1832
01:37:59,560 --> 01:38:01,880
Speaker 1: that a team like New Orleans or Philadelphia might be

1833
01:38:01,920 --> 01:38:05,479
Speaker 1: in right now with their cap situations, they're right there.

1834
01:38:05,520 --> 01:38:08,320
Speaker 1: I mean, they're within six million of where one seventy

1835
01:38:08,320 --> 01:38:12,080
Speaker 1: five is anticipated to be. But still the fact remains

1836
01:38:12,120 --> 01:38:15,679
Speaker 1: that their three other division rivals are in healthier cap

1837
01:38:15,720 --> 01:38:19,000
Speaker 1: situations because they're at a different juncture in their build

1838
01:38:19,040 --> 01:38:21,320
Speaker 1: per se. You know, New England bit the bullet this

1839
01:38:21,400 --> 01:38:24,479
Speaker 1: past year on the cap to get their house in order,

1840
01:38:24,479 --> 01:38:27,559
Speaker 1: and now they'll have money to spend. Miami is in

1841
01:38:27,600 --> 01:38:30,400
Speaker 1: a healthier cap situation than Buffalo, and so two are

1842
01:38:30,400 --> 01:38:33,479
Speaker 1: the Jets who are starting anew with another new head coach.

1843
01:38:33,560 --> 01:38:36,800
Speaker 1: So when you think about those dynamics, it's hard not

1844
01:38:36,840 --> 01:38:41,240
Speaker 1: to think Mark that very quickly they can close the

1845
01:38:41,280 --> 01:38:44,439
Speaker 1: gap on Buffalo just because they're in a healthier cap

1846
01:38:44,520 --> 01:38:46,680
Speaker 1: situation than the Bills are faced with because of this

1847
01:38:46,720 --> 01:38:50,839
Speaker 1: COVID situation. So could you see a scenario where those teams,

1848
01:38:50,880 --> 01:38:53,320
Speaker 1: if they make the right decisions, could close the gap,

1849
01:38:53,439 --> 01:38:57,960
Speaker 1: maybe sooner rather than later in a normal off season. Yeah, well,

1850
01:38:58,000 --> 01:39:01,160
Speaker 1: again the closing the gap with the cap. Obviously there's

1851
01:39:01,160 --> 01:39:03,400
Speaker 1: other factors besides a cat. You got a draft, well,

1852
01:39:03,600 --> 01:39:05,960
Speaker 1: you gotta sign sign the right free agents, not just

1853
01:39:06,040 --> 01:39:09,080
Speaker 1: spend the money. But most importantly with the advantage that

1854
01:39:09,120 --> 01:39:13,320
Speaker 1: the Bills have is the quarterback. So you mentioned those

1855
01:39:13,320 --> 01:39:16,080
Speaker 1: other three teams, Sam Darnold hasn't shown it. Now the

1856
01:39:16,160 --> 01:39:18,639
Speaker 1: Jets have the second pick, will there be a quarterback

1857
01:39:18,680 --> 01:39:20,839
Speaker 1: there to close the gap for you guys New England.

1858
01:39:21,360 --> 01:39:23,599
Speaker 1: You know they have nobody a quarterback right now, who

1859
01:39:23,600 --> 01:39:26,800
Speaker 1: knows and where they're picking. Don't think they'll really get one.

1860
01:39:26,840 --> 01:39:29,599
Speaker 1: The free agent market for quarterbacks not that strong, and

1861
01:39:29,640 --> 01:39:31,960
Speaker 1: in Miami is two of the Is he the guy

1862
01:39:32,040 --> 01:39:34,519
Speaker 1: you know there's obviously the Dolphins have come out in

1863
01:39:34,520 --> 01:39:36,720
Speaker 1: the offseason and said that he is, but there's a

1864
01:39:36,720 --> 01:39:39,080
Speaker 1: lot of question marks about that. So they can have

1865
01:39:39,160 --> 01:39:42,240
Speaker 1: the cash space, but can they do enough around the

1866
01:39:42,360 --> 01:39:45,439
Speaker 1: quarterback situation to close the gap with you guys with

1867
01:39:45,560 --> 01:39:47,280
Speaker 1: Josh Allen and right now I'm looking at it and

1868
01:39:47,360 --> 01:39:49,120
Speaker 1: I don't think they can now maybe a couple of

1869
01:39:49,160 --> 01:39:50,920
Speaker 1: years down the line if they can get the quarterback,

1870
01:39:50,960 --> 01:39:54,160
Speaker 1: because you know, that's the key to everything, as you

1871
01:39:54,160 --> 01:39:56,439
Speaker 1: guys have seen there in Buffalo with Josh and his

1872
01:39:56,520 --> 01:39:59,639
Speaker 1: development and two years ago you're saying something completely different

1873
01:39:59,640 --> 01:40:01,640
Speaker 1: than you're they're saying now with being in the in

1874
01:40:01,680 --> 01:40:05,479
Speaker 1: the NFC Championship game with him. So that's the key

1875
01:40:05,560 --> 01:40:09,040
Speaker 1: where you know, the quarterback brings everybody up, brings a

1876
01:40:09,120 --> 01:40:11,880
Speaker 1: level of everybody up. Those teams, those are the three

1877
01:40:11,920 --> 01:40:14,439
Speaker 1: teams in the division right now, do not have that.

1878
01:40:14,520 --> 01:40:17,479
Speaker 1: So I don't care how much cap space they got,

1879
01:40:17,600 --> 01:40:21,439
Speaker 1: they can't make that competitive with the Bills with Josh Allen,

1880
01:40:22,360 --> 01:40:25,120
Speaker 1: then it won't be that fast to the turnaround. Well,

1881
01:40:25,600 --> 01:40:28,519
Speaker 1: you brought it up Josh Allen, and probably he's gonna

1882
01:40:28,520 --> 01:40:30,840
Speaker 1: get extended by the Buffalo Bills, no question. And what's

1883
01:40:30,880 --> 01:40:33,840
Speaker 1: your observations about how different teams in the league handle

1884
01:40:33,880 --> 01:40:37,559
Speaker 1: that you look around? It's it's extremes are very fairly obvious.

1885
01:40:37,640 --> 01:40:41,120
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz, who was an MVP candidate until he went

1886
01:40:41,160 --> 01:40:42,600
Speaker 1: out of that year and the team went on and

1887
01:40:42,600 --> 01:40:45,680
Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl after he had gotten them all

1888
01:40:45,720 --> 01:40:47,760
Speaker 1: those wins early in the season. Then you've got a

1889
01:40:47,760 --> 01:40:51,040
Speaker 1: guy like Dak Prescott who went ahead and played under

1890
01:40:51,080 --> 01:40:53,920
Speaker 1: the franchise tag. You got Kirk Cousins who did that,

1891
01:40:54,160 --> 01:41:00,639
Speaker 1: played under the franchise tag. Uh, you know like Smith

1892
01:41:00,680 --> 01:41:03,400
Speaker 1: who who has bounced around the league as a top plick.

1893
01:41:03,720 --> 01:41:06,920
Speaker 1: How do you what's your observation and thoughts about how

1894
01:41:07,000 --> 01:41:11,000
Speaker 1: teams should handle and when they should extend a young

1895
01:41:11,080 --> 01:41:13,840
Speaker 1: quarterback like a Josh Allen, like a Baker Mayfield. It

1896
01:41:13,960 --> 01:41:17,720
Speaker 1: is Sean Watson, Patrick Mahomes. We've seen all these guys. Yeah,

1897
01:41:17,760 --> 01:41:19,880
Speaker 1: I think the guys that have been extended recently, you

1898
01:41:19,960 --> 01:41:24,120
Speaker 1: really have seen the evidence that they are franchise perennial

1899
01:41:24,160 --> 01:41:27,320
Speaker 1: playoff in some cases of Patrick Mahomes the greatest guy ever.

1900
01:41:27,800 --> 01:41:30,280
Speaker 1: You know that those sort of caliber people. But you've

1901
01:41:30,280 --> 01:41:33,160
Speaker 1: seen mistakes, especially that you mentioned Carson Wentz but Jared

1902
01:41:33,200 --> 01:41:36,280
Speaker 1: Golf where you know, teams should extend guys early, but

1903
01:41:36,520 --> 01:41:40,559
Speaker 1: are you really evaluating that quarterback for his value as

1904
01:41:40,560 --> 01:41:43,280
Speaker 1: opposed to okay, we just have to extend him right now.

1905
01:41:43,640 --> 01:41:45,720
Speaker 1: And you know talking about Jared Golf when you're talking

1906
01:41:45,720 --> 01:41:47,719
Speaker 1: about okay, if we if we have a good offensive

1907
01:41:47,760 --> 01:41:49,639
Speaker 1: line and we run the ball, and our defense play

1908
01:41:49,640 --> 01:41:52,880
Speaker 1: as well. We've got playmakers at receiver. He can get

1909
01:41:52,880 --> 01:41:55,840
Speaker 1: it done. Well, then you're saying, well, what actually is

1910
01:41:55,880 --> 01:41:58,519
Speaker 1: he doing? Is heat worth that? As opposed to if

1911
01:41:58,520 --> 01:42:01,519
Speaker 1: you look at Josh Allen, he didn't have a running game.

1912
01:42:01,680 --> 01:42:03,439
Speaker 1: You know, obviously ste Fine Days was a big thing,

1913
01:42:03,439 --> 01:42:05,840
Speaker 1: but when you watch him play, you're like, wow, that's

1914
01:42:05,880 --> 01:42:08,960
Speaker 1: the He's the reason why that offense is going. As

1915
01:42:08,960 --> 01:42:12,280
Speaker 1: opposed to, we need everything else to prop up the quarterback,

1916
01:42:12,320 --> 01:42:14,840
Speaker 1: and the quarterbacks that make everything go are the ones

1917
01:42:14,840 --> 01:42:17,519
Speaker 1: that should get paid. The ones you have to prop up.

1918
01:42:17,840 --> 01:42:21,360
Speaker 1: I don't believe should be paid, and you just get

1919
01:42:21,400 --> 01:42:23,719
Speaker 1: caught up and we have to do it. You mentioned

1920
01:42:23,800 --> 01:42:26,519
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott as well. I mean you saw his value.

1921
01:42:26,560 --> 01:42:28,880
Speaker 1: There was a lot of is Dak worth it? Is

1922
01:42:28,920 --> 01:42:30,840
Speaker 1: he worth that he lit up? He lit it up

1923
01:42:30,840 --> 01:42:32,439
Speaker 1: earlier in the year and then he got hurt and

1924
01:42:32,479 --> 01:42:35,559
Speaker 1: he really showed, man, he is worth it that. You know,

1925
01:42:35,560 --> 01:42:38,080
Speaker 1: the team kind of fell apart without him. So it'll

1926
01:42:38,120 --> 01:42:40,280
Speaker 1: be interesting to see what Dallas does with him. But

1927
01:42:40,320 --> 01:42:43,360
Speaker 1: they he if he can't get paid to nobody should

1928
01:42:44,120 --> 01:42:46,920
Speaker 1: so Mark if you look at the quarterback landscape. But

1929
01:42:46,960 --> 01:42:49,479
Speaker 1: I know there's some national reporters that have already said,

1930
01:42:50,400 --> 01:42:53,759
Speaker 1: we're going to see if you thought last year's quarterback

1931
01:42:53,840 --> 01:42:56,479
Speaker 1: musical chairs was active, it's going to be even to

1932
01:42:56,560 --> 01:43:00,479
Speaker 1: a greater degree this year. Some have even said upwards

1933
01:43:00,479 --> 01:43:03,439
Speaker 1: of eighteen different quarterbacks could be on the move. That

1934
01:43:03,520 --> 01:43:06,360
Speaker 1: seems like a really high number to me. I could

1935
01:43:06,560 --> 01:43:09,599
Speaker 1: I can wrap my head around ten or twelve, which

1936
01:43:09,720 --> 01:43:13,479
Speaker 1: to me would even be seismic in terms of quarterback movement.

1937
01:43:13,960 --> 01:43:16,599
Speaker 1: But it looks like the Rams have buyer's remorse, and

1938
01:43:16,640 --> 01:43:18,880
Speaker 1: it looks like there are some others teams out there

1939
01:43:19,280 --> 01:43:22,240
Speaker 1: that are saying to themselves, if I don't have a

1940
01:43:22,240 --> 01:43:26,240
Speaker 1: top five guy, I should look for better because I'm

1941
01:43:26,280 --> 01:43:28,720
Speaker 1: not going to have a chance to compete. So do

1942
01:43:28,760 --> 01:43:32,000
Speaker 1: you think that line of thinking is prompting this potential

1943
01:43:32,040 --> 01:43:35,799
Speaker 1: movement that we could witness this offseason, Yeah, no question.

1944
01:43:35,840 --> 01:43:38,600
Speaker 1: And it's it's it's always been supplying to man with

1945
01:43:38,680 --> 01:43:42,880
Speaker 1: quarterbacks when there's not been enough great quarterbacks to go around,

1946
01:43:42,920 --> 01:43:46,720
Speaker 1: and the value of quarterbacks have been undervalued for all

1947
01:43:46,760 --> 01:43:48,960
Speaker 1: these years. In my opinion, every year I've been in

1948
01:43:48,960 --> 01:43:51,559
Speaker 1: this like it's the most important position in sports and

1949
01:43:51,600 --> 01:43:55,320
Speaker 1: it's not even closed and it's like, you need one

1950
01:43:55,360 --> 01:43:59,000
Speaker 1: of these elite guys to get into entry into this deal. Okay,

1951
01:43:59,000 --> 01:44:00,800
Speaker 1: now you can have a year or two or your

1952
01:44:00,880 --> 01:44:02,559
Speaker 1: your defense played out of their mind and you've got

1953
01:44:02,560 --> 01:44:04,000
Speaker 1: an average guy and get but if you want to

1954
01:44:04,000 --> 01:44:05,800
Speaker 1: compete year in and and year out, the only way to

1955
01:44:05,840 --> 01:44:08,840
Speaker 1: do it is to have Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen

1956
01:44:08,880 --> 01:44:12,120
Speaker 1: and Deshaun Watson. You know Deshaun Watson, he's a lot

1957
01:44:12,160 --> 01:44:14,320
Speaker 1: going to talk. That's a whole another subject with heed,

1958
01:44:14,680 --> 01:44:17,000
Speaker 1: but at least you have that guy to work with.

1959
01:44:17,479 --> 01:44:20,880
Speaker 1: And I think teams are for some reason have undervalue

1960
01:44:21,280 --> 01:44:24,680
Speaker 1: the value of the franchise quarterback. And now you're going

1961
01:44:24,720 --> 01:44:28,400
Speaker 1: to see it this offseason where let's count let's say

1962
01:44:28,439 --> 01:44:30,920
Speaker 1: eight elite guys that say we're going in next year

1963
01:44:31,000 --> 01:44:34,320
Speaker 1: knowing that this guy can do it for us, and

1964
01:44:34,439 --> 01:44:37,559
Speaker 1: all these other teams are saying they can't. And again

1965
01:44:37,600 --> 01:44:40,120
Speaker 1: I just mentioned you know, we talked about maybe eighteen.

1966
01:44:40,960 --> 01:44:44,160
Speaker 1: There's we talked about the ancast. There's three right there

1967
01:44:44,320 --> 01:44:47,080
Speaker 1: that you know, Sam Darnold hasn't show it. Are they

1968
01:44:47,080 --> 01:44:48,759
Speaker 1: going to take another guy that could be turned around

1969
01:44:49,000 --> 01:44:51,439
Speaker 1: New England? They have to because they have no quarterback

1970
01:44:51,479 --> 01:44:53,679
Speaker 1: and is two of the guy. Will they go back

1971
01:44:53,680 --> 01:44:56,160
Speaker 1: and forth with this Patrick or draft someone else because

1972
01:44:56,200 --> 01:44:58,559
Speaker 1: they're picking so high. So and if you just go

1973
01:44:58,720 --> 01:45:01,720
Speaker 1: team by team around the league, there's not many that

1974
01:45:01,800 --> 01:45:03,600
Speaker 1: you can count on and say we feel like we

1975
01:45:03,680 --> 01:45:06,240
Speaker 1: really have the guy to compete. Yeah. You also got

1976
01:45:06,240 --> 01:45:08,240
Speaker 1: to know too that there's a lot of really young quarterbacks,

1977
01:45:08,240 --> 01:45:10,519
Speaker 1: particularly in the AFC, that have come out and played

1978
01:45:10,640 --> 01:45:12,640
Speaker 1: really well. And Pat Mahomes is a great example. His

1979
01:45:12,720 --> 01:45:15,000
Speaker 1: second year was the MVP of the league. Lamar Jackson

1980
01:45:15,880 --> 01:45:18,600
Speaker 1: in his year was the MVP of the league, and

1981
01:45:18,640 --> 01:45:21,639
Speaker 1: Pat Mahomes is now Super Bowl MVP. Josh Allen took

1982
01:45:21,720 --> 01:45:24,439
Speaker 1: him three years to get there, but he steadily got there.

1983
01:45:24,479 --> 01:45:26,840
Speaker 1: Then you got Joe Burrow coming out lighting it up

1984
01:45:26,880 --> 01:45:30,040
Speaker 1: a little bit as a rookie, Justin Herbert doing the

1985
01:45:30,080 --> 01:45:34,439
Speaker 1: same thing. You've got guys. That is it, And I

1986
01:45:34,520 --> 01:45:36,519
Speaker 1: know it's how important the position is. But the game

1987
01:45:36,560 --> 01:45:40,400
Speaker 1: has changed as well. It seems that the pro game

1988
01:45:40,479 --> 01:45:43,120
Speaker 1: has bent itself to be a little bit more like

1989
01:45:43,160 --> 01:45:45,640
Speaker 1: the college game in order to get better play out

1990
01:45:45,680 --> 01:45:49,600
Speaker 1: of that position. No question, and used to you know,

1991
01:45:49,640 --> 01:45:52,200
Speaker 1: growing up and scouting, it was always the NFL. It

1992
01:45:52,280 --> 01:45:54,960
Speaker 1: was tripled down almost okay, and you've tried to force

1993
01:45:55,040 --> 01:45:58,799
Speaker 1: those college guys into what the NFL was doing, but slowly, slowly,

1994
01:45:58,880 --> 01:46:03,559
Speaker 1: finally they say it tripled up, where the concepts that

1995
01:46:03,720 --> 01:46:06,360
Speaker 1: colleges are doing, the pro teams are accepting, and the

1996
01:46:06,439 --> 01:46:10,240
Speaker 1: better teams with more creative offensive coordinators and head coaches

1997
01:46:10,240 --> 01:46:12,120
Speaker 1: like you guys are Brian Dable. I mean the stuff

1998
01:46:12,160 --> 01:46:15,160
Speaker 1: he does, there's for him to develop Josh and not

1999
01:46:15,520 --> 01:46:17,280
Speaker 1: do certain things with him throughout the years so he

2000
01:46:17,320 --> 01:46:19,760
Speaker 1: can develop and then work on his strengths. That's what

2001
01:46:19,920 --> 01:46:22,400
Speaker 1: you need. It's not he can't do this. We're going

2002
01:46:22,439 --> 01:46:24,519
Speaker 1: to try to make him keep practicing this. To do this,

2003
01:46:25,439 --> 01:46:28,519
Speaker 1: what are his strengths that we can maximize our offense with?

2004
01:46:28,600 --> 01:46:32,280
Speaker 1: And you're seeing more and more of that, you know.

2005
01:46:32,320 --> 01:46:36,000
Speaker 1: I think it's just been that group of extremely talented

2006
01:46:36,040 --> 01:46:38,599
Speaker 1: players that have unique skill sets. You mentioned all those

2007
01:46:38,600 --> 01:46:40,479
Speaker 1: guys and are all kind of different in their own way,

2008
01:46:40,880 --> 01:46:43,120
Speaker 1: but they had a system that work with their strengths

2009
01:46:43,200 --> 01:46:45,840
Speaker 1: as opposed to trying to dismiss that. But again, it's

2010
01:46:45,840 --> 01:46:48,120
Speaker 1: still a certain amount and if you go year by year,

2011
01:46:48,160 --> 01:46:50,720
Speaker 1: it's still only a pocket of like under ten that

2012
01:46:50,800 --> 01:46:54,120
Speaker 1: you're saying, here's the elite group of quarterbacks now, it

2013
01:46:54,200 --> 01:46:57,320
Speaker 1: just happens to be a whole bunch of really young guys.

2014
01:46:57,560 --> 01:46:59,880
Speaker 1: Now we got Tom Brady and Drew Brees who kind

2015
01:46:59,880 --> 01:47:03,320
Speaker 1: of hanging on there, and Aaron Rodgers. But the elite

2016
01:47:03,720 --> 01:47:05,519
Speaker 1: group right now just happens to be a lot of

2017
01:47:05,680 --> 01:47:09,360
Speaker 1: really young players. Kyler Murray and the NFC and you

2018
01:47:09,400 --> 01:47:12,640
Speaker 1: know those sort of players. Talking to Mark Ross from

2019
01:47:12,760 --> 01:47:16,479
Speaker 1: NFL Network, former NFL front office executive, even worked in

2020
01:47:16,520 --> 01:47:19,200
Speaker 1: the Bills front office for a time, and I know

2021
01:47:19,280 --> 01:47:22,240
Speaker 1: you did have part of your career in Philadelphia where

2022
01:47:22,240 --> 01:47:24,840
Speaker 1: you got to spend some time with Leslie Frasier when

2023
01:47:24,880 --> 01:47:27,320
Speaker 1: he was on Andy Reid's coaching staff there as a

2024
01:47:27,360 --> 01:47:30,599
Speaker 1: defensive backs coach. And he is up for the Houston

2025
01:47:30,640 --> 01:47:33,000
Speaker 1: Texans job, seems to be in a small group of

2026
01:47:33,000 --> 01:47:37,000
Speaker 1: finalists there along with Eric b Enemy, David Culley, among others.

2027
01:47:38,920 --> 01:47:44,280
Speaker 1: Maybe just give Bills fans and some insight into the

2028
01:47:44,400 --> 01:47:47,559
Speaker 1: day to day coach that Leslie Frasier is, because even

2029
01:47:47,560 --> 01:47:49,920
Speaker 1: though he's been here in Buffalo for four years, you know,

2030
01:47:49,960 --> 01:47:53,280
Speaker 1: the coordinator kind of sits behind this veil that you know,

2031
01:47:53,760 --> 01:47:55,840
Speaker 1: fans don't get to see every day, so maybe just

2032
01:47:56,280 --> 01:47:58,599
Speaker 1: give them a sense as to the kind of head

2033
01:47:58,600 --> 01:48:02,599
Speaker 1: coaching material that Leslie Frasier is in your mind. Yet,

2034
01:48:02,720 --> 01:48:05,719
Speaker 1: So Leslie came with I was on the Eagle staff,

2035
01:48:05,800 --> 01:48:09,479
Speaker 1: started as an intern and then a scout under Ray

2036
01:48:09,560 --> 01:48:12,439
Speaker 1: Roads Group, and then Andy's crew came in there in

2037
01:48:12,560 --> 01:48:15,000
Speaker 1: ninety nine with Leslie. Leslie was part of his first

2038
01:48:15,040 --> 01:48:19,639
Speaker 1: coaching staff and you know, unbelievable staff that they had there,

2039
01:48:19,520 --> 01:48:22,320
Speaker 1: all the guys. And Sean was actually an intern well

2040
01:48:22,439 --> 01:48:25,439
Speaker 1: like an ops guy for our our scouting department before

2041
01:48:25,439 --> 01:48:27,640
Speaker 1: he switched and started to go work for you know,

2042
01:48:27,760 --> 01:48:31,720
Speaker 1: was Andy's assistant. So he made a right career move there.

2043
01:48:31,760 --> 01:48:35,080
Speaker 1: But you know, Leslie was just he just has a

2044
01:48:35,160 --> 01:48:39,520
Speaker 1: quiet confidence about him. You can tell he's really invested

2045
01:48:39,920 --> 01:48:44,000
Speaker 1: in people, in his players, not just on the field,

2046
01:48:44,000 --> 01:48:47,160
Speaker 1: but off the field. He's consistent. The great head coaches

2047
01:48:47,200 --> 01:48:49,840
Speaker 1: I've worked with are coaches in general. Players want to

2048
01:48:49,840 --> 01:48:53,599
Speaker 1: see that consistency, the genuineness out of them, and Leslie

2049
01:48:53,600 --> 01:48:58,679
Speaker 1: Frasier is consistent and genuine in all his interactions throughout

2050
01:48:58,680 --> 01:49:02,960
Speaker 1: the building in coach. You know, he's obviously has the experience,

2051
01:49:03,040 --> 01:49:05,559
Speaker 1: he was a player in the NFL, So I think

2052
01:49:05,560 --> 01:49:08,200
Speaker 1: with the Texans, not even talking about the other candidates,

2053
01:49:08,240 --> 01:49:11,479
Speaker 1: but just what Leslie Frasier would bring in that situation there.

2054
01:49:11,560 --> 01:49:14,360
Speaker 1: It's just the stability sometimes you just need that. You

2055
01:49:14,400 --> 01:49:16,800
Speaker 1: saw that with Ron Rivera, who was also on that

2056
01:49:16,840 --> 01:49:19,519
Speaker 1: staff with Washington and what he did just all the

2057
01:49:19,600 --> 01:49:23,040
Speaker 1: chaos that was with Washington and Ron brought stability. Leslie

2058
01:49:23,080 --> 01:49:26,160
Speaker 1: could kind of do the same thing with Houston, bringing

2059
01:49:26,240 --> 01:49:31,000
Speaker 1: stability amidst all the chaos. And also the Shaun Watson factor.

2060
01:49:31,200 --> 01:49:35,720
Speaker 1: Leslie's personality, his presence, his connection with people. He could

2061
01:49:35,800 --> 01:49:38,479
Speaker 1: kind of calm the waters with the Shaun Watson because

2062
01:49:38,479 --> 01:49:41,400
Speaker 1: he is the most important aspect of what's going on

2063
01:49:41,439 --> 01:49:45,439
Speaker 1: down there in Houston, and that will be the definite

2064
01:49:45,479 --> 01:49:49,160
Speaker 1: selling point and positives of having a Leslie Frasier as

2065
01:49:49,200 --> 01:49:51,800
Speaker 1: your head coach. What are some of your observations about

2066
01:49:51,840 --> 01:49:56,200
Speaker 1: this hiring cycle. You know, certainly Eric Bienemy and Leslie Frasier,

2067
01:49:56,240 --> 01:49:57,960
Speaker 1: there's a lot of said like they're the two guys

2068
01:49:58,000 --> 01:49:59,720
Speaker 1: that they were waiting on. Maybe the loser of the

2069
01:50:00,200 --> 01:50:02,439
Speaker 1: championship game is going to become the head coach because

2070
01:50:02,439 --> 01:50:05,960
Speaker 1: he gets there two weeks earlier, I've thought that's crazy.

2071
01:50:06,000 --> 01:50:08,200
Speaker 1: Talk two weeks on the front end of a ten

2072
01:50:08,280 --> 01:50:11,960
Speaker 1: year career, doesn't doesn't mean, you know, just take some guy, right,

2073
01:50:12,320 --> 01:50:15,439
Speaker 1: but talk and also about the diversity too. I mean,

2074
01:50:15,800 --> 01:50:18,360
Speaker 1: it just seems like we we spend too much time

2075
01:50:19,479 --> 01:50:24,320
Speaker 1: lamenting the fact that the league is dominated by so

2076
01:50:24,400 --> 01:50:31,120
Speaker 1: many you know, worthy, upstanding, great black guys who don't

2077
01:50:31,200 --> 01:50:34,439
Speaker 1: seem to get the same shot as young guys who

2078
01:50:34,479 --> 01:50:36,360
Speaker 1: come up who happen to be white. Is there a

2079
01:50:37,160 --> 01:50:38,920
Speaker 1: what are your thoughts about that and the diversity in

2080
01:50:38,960 --> 01:50:42,680
Speaker 1: the hiring cycle. Yeah, obviously this is a subject that's

2081
01:50:42,800 --> 01:50:44,360
Speaker 1: you know, very passionate for me, and you see it

2082
01:50:44,360 --> 01:50:46,599
Speaker 1: in the head coaching side and on the general manager

2083
01:50:46,680 --> 01:50:48,760
Speaker 1: side for so many years, and I work with the

2084
01:50:48,880 --> 01:50:51,960
Speaker 1: league office with a lot of the diversity initiatives trying

2085
01:50:52,000 --> 01:50:54,800
Speaker 1: to rectify it. You thought, after all the attention and

2086
01:50:54,840 --> 01:50:58,200
Speaker 1: the awareness that got brought to it prior to this cycle,

2087
01:50:58,240 --> 01:51:00,439
Speaker 1: because of what's happened the last few years, you see

2088
01:51:00,479 --> 01:51:02,880
Speaker 1: more of a change, But obviously it hasn't as we

2089
01:51:02,920 --> 01:51:06,439
Speaker 1: haven't seen someone hired. And the frustrating part is someone

2090
01:51:06,479 --> 01:51:09,400
Speaker 1: like a Leslie Frasier or Eric the enemy where you

2091
01:51:09,479 --> 01:51:12,720
Speaker 1: see the qualifications, you see the credentials, you see the background,

2092
01:51:13,240 --> 01:51:15,439
Speaker 1: but then it's always, well, they don't do this, they

2093
01:51:15,439 --> 01:51:17,920
Speaker 1: don't do that. But then white candidates they can just

2094
01:51:17,960 --> 01:51:20,000
Speaker 1: get hired without having to do all that, and it's

2095
01:51:20,000 --> 01:51:23,960
Speaker 1: always the one thing they do is magnified of something

2096
01:51:24,040 --> 01:51:26,280
Speaker 1: great and mean you just look at you know, there's

2097
01:51:26,280 --> 01:51:28,680
Speaker 1: three black coordinators in the Super Bowl right now, like

2098
01:51:28,800 --> 01:51:32,840
Speaker 1: Brian final Leftage, you know, the Enemy, and then Tyle Bowls.

2099
01:51:32,840 --> 01:51:36,439
Speaker 1: I actually Tampa had their special team's coordinator Keith Armstrong

2100
01:51:36,479 --> 01:51:40,439
Speaker 1: as well. So that's the frustrating part. And then when

2101
01:51:40,479 --> 01:51:43,280
Speaker 1: you see Brandon Staley get hired right from Division three

2102
01:51:43,360 --> 01:51:45,120
Speaker 1: four years later, he's a head coach in the NFL,

2103
01:51:45,400 --> 01:51:47,280
Speaker 1: that would never happen with a black They wouldn't even

2104
01:51:47,280 --> 01:51:49,840
Speaker 1: be a position coach with that sort of resume. Where

2105
01:51:49,880 --> 01:51:51,760
Speaker 1: you see it Dan Campbell, you know we talked Eric

2106
01:51:51,760 --> 01:51:53,840
Speaker 1: the enemy doesn't call it plays with Dan Campbell's never

2107
01:51:53,920 --> 01:51:57,439
Speaker 1: even been a coordinator. And then you see the press

2108
01:51:57,439 --> 01:52:00,960
Speaker 1: conference talking about Biddy kneecaps, and if that was black candidates,

2109
01:52:01,080 --> 01:52:03,360
Speaker 1: they would never they would get torn down completely by

2110
01:52:03,400 --> 01:52:06,440
Speaker 1: that stuff instead of the exalted. So that's the frustration

2111
01:52:06,520 --> 01:52:10,599
Speaker 1: where black candidates just wanted to be fair and equal

2112
01:52:10,880 --> 01:52:13,760
Speaker 1: and the same standards applied to both sides and no

2113
01:52:13,880 --> 01:52:16,360
Speaker 1: handouts and all that, but just don't just don't say

2114
01:52:16,640 --> 01:52:19,439
Speaker 1: you can't do this. But then a white white candidates

2115
01:52:19,439 --> 01:52:22,639
Speaker 1: completely do not have close to what the credentials are

2116
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Speaker 1: and they're getting hired. So obviously it didn't work this cycle.

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01:52:26,680 --> 01:52:28,240
Speaker 1: We need to keep working on it, and we need

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Speaker 1: to keep fighting and uh, you know, hopefully in time

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Speaker 1: it'll change. Yeah, because I mean, even if it is

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Speaker 1: the enemy David Culley or it's Leslie Fraser. For the

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01:52:38,920 --> 01:52:42,160
Speaker 1: Houston job, you're talking about two out of what I

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01:52:42,160 --> 01:52:45,400
Speaker 1: think it was seven vacant head coaching jobs that would

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01:52:45,439 --> 01:52:48,760
Speaker 1: be filled by minorities, Robert Sala being the other minority hire.

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01:52:49,160 --> 01:52:52,720
Speaker 1: And then at the GM level it was basically Terry

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01:52:52,720 --> 01:52:56,479
Speaker 1: Fonto in Atlanta. Correct, that's the only area. Brad Holmes

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01:52:56,479 --> 01:52:59,519
Speaker 1: got hired in Detroit, Oh right, right, yeah, and then

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01:52:59,640 --> 01:53:03,000
Speaker 1: and then and then in Washington Martin Mayhew, so Martin

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01:53:03,080 --> 01:53:05,200
Speaker 1: kind of after the fact, with Marty hearning at first

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01:53:05,200 --> 01:53:08,240
Speaker 1: and then they brought Martin in. So yeah, it's it's

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01:53:08,280 --> 01:53:11,080
Speaker 1: been that was a lot more progress on the GM side,

2131
01:53:11,160 --> 01:53:13,280
Speaker 1: but again there's still only five in the league or

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01:53:13,280 --> 01:53:16,320
Speaker 1: four total gyms in the league, so you know, this

2133
01:53:16,360 --> 01:53:18,880
Speaker 1: was a big push on that side, but the total

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01:53:19,000 --> 01:53:22,920
Speaker 1: numbers are still way down, so you know, it's it's

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01:53:22,960 --> 01:53:24,800
Speaker 1: a lot of work. And you mentioned that the three

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01:53:24,920 --> 01:53:28,760
Speaker 1: candidates there, it's just their background and credentials. They've been

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01:53:28,760 --> 01:53:31,040
Speaker 1: around it so long. Well, they're all over fifty years

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01:53:31,080 --> 01:53:33,360
Speaker 1: old too, Like you're talking about a thirty seven year

2139
01:53:33,400 --> 01:53:36,920
Speaker 1: old getting hired in LA who's, as you said, four

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01:53:37,000 --> 01:53:39,760
Speaker 1: years removed from Division three. I mean, what more does

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01:53:39,840 --> 01:53:42,719
Speaker 1: the enemy or Leslie Fraser who's been a head coach before.

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01:53:43,120 --> 01:53:45,200
Speaker 1: I mean, they're all over fifty years of age. They've

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01:53:45,200 --> 01:53:47,120
Speaker 1: paid their dues, right, I mean, they their dudes. And

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01:53:47,160 --> 01:53:50,040
Speaker 1: when you when you look at the the good head coaches,

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01:53:50,880 --> 01:53:53,280
Speaker 1: black candidates have had to have played in the NFL

2146
01:53:53,360 --> 01:53:55,720
Speaker 1: for a while, coach for a long time, and then

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01:53:55,760 --> 01:54:00,559
Speaker 1: they're brought up. There's never a okay, go from aid

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01:54:00,640 --> 01:54:03,919
Speaker 1: to Z real quick to the job and get considered

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01:54:03,920 --> 01:54:06,400
Speaker 1: for even a coordinator job, let alone a had coaching job.

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01:54:06,520 --> 01:54:09,040
Speaker 1: So even for a coordinator job, and you know, just

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01:54:09,080 --> 01:54:13,040
Speaker 1: comparing let's just say, you know what Byron Left, which

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01:54:13,120 --> 01:54:15,879
Speaker 1: is Dungeon. Just the fact that Houston interviewed Josh McCown

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01:54:16,360 --> 01:54:20,120
Speaker 1: and d Jim Calwell on the same day, That to

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01:54:20,200 --> 01:54:22,880
Speaker 1: me was the biggest discrepancy. If people can't see the

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01:54:22,880 --> 01:54:26,320
Speaker 1: difference of a former player who has never coached at

2156
01:54:26,439 --> 01:54:30,200
Speaker 1: college or the NFL, at any any position the same

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01:54:30,280 --> 01:54:33,600
Speaker 1: day interviews as a guy that all right. He was

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01:54:33,600 --> 01:54:36,520
Speaker 1: a head coaching college at Wake Forest. He's coached thirty years,

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01:54:36,880 --> 01:54:39,520
Speaker 1: he went to a Super Bowl. He took one of

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01:54:39,560 --> 01:54:42,560
Speaker 1: the worst organizations in the history of football and had

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01:54:42,760 --> 01:54:46,960
Speaker 1: three winning seasons and playoff team, and they interviewed for

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01:54:47,000 --> 01:54:49,960
Speaker 1: the same exact job. There's no there's nothing else that

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01:54:50,080 --> 01:54:52,760
Speaker 1: you could compare to say, this man right here has

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01:54:52,760 --> 01:54:55,960
Speaker 1: all these credentials. This guy has none, but they're they're

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01:54:56,080 --> 01:54:59,760
Speaker 1: being considered, and those are the sort of discrepancies we

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01:54:59,800 --> 01:55:03,080
Speaker 1: have record file, right, and I would agree. I'm glad,

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01:55:03,120 --> 01:55:05,360
Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought that to light. I got uh,

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Speaker 1: let's see, I want to ask you this. We talked

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01:55:08,960 --> 01:55:11,160
Speaker 1: about these young quarterbacks and I want to get your

2170
01:55:11,200 --> 01:55:16,320
Speaker 1: observations on when you what are the what do you

2171
01:55:16,400 --> 01:55:20,000
Speaker 1: look for when it's not when it's not Josh Allen

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01:55:20,120 --> 01:55:24,320
Speaker 1: or Justin Herbert or Joe Burrow or Pat Mahomes or

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01:55:24,400 --> 01:55:27,840
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray or something. What happens when it's like to

2174
01:55:27,960 --> 01:55:31,000
Speaker 1: a tangle by Lower or Sam Darnold. When when do

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01:55:31,080 --> 01:55:33,040
Speaker 1: you like to say thanks for stopping by, but we

2176
01:55:33,040 --> 01:55:34,600
Speaker 1: got to move on. I mean what You know what

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01:55:34,680 --> 01:55:37,320
Speaker 1: I mean? Because if the Bills would have been quick

2178
01:55:37,320 --> 01:55:40,080
Speaker 1: to the trigger, they would have kicked Josh Allen to

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01:55:40,160 --> 01:55:42,960
Speaker 1: the curb after halfway through his rookie year or something

2180
01:55:43,000 --> 01:55:46,520
Speaker 1: like that. You know what I'm saying. Statistically, I think

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01:55:46,560 --> 01:55:49,760
Speaker 1: with quarterbacks there's always you can see something there. You

2182
01:55:50,120 --> 01:55:53,240
Speaker 1: can see this guy, and even with Josh when he

2183
01:55:53,280 --> 01:55:56,080
Speaker 1: struggled early, to me, you could just see there was

2184
01:55:56,200 --> 01:55:59,080
Speaker 1: something there that kind of kept going and going and gone.

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01:55:59,120 --> 01:56:02,320
Speaker 1: It's like there was that playmaking element that he had

2186
01:56:02,440 --> 01:56:06,120
Speaker 1: despite some of the you know, the tossing the ball

2187
01:56:06,160 --> 01:56:08,160
Speaker 1: behind him in the interceptions he had, but there was

2188
01:56:08,200 --> 01:56:11,960
Speaker 1: still that that gravitized that moxie that he had that

2189
01:56:12,120 --> 01:56:15,320
Speaker 1: you thought you could develop, whereas some other guys don't

2190
01:56:15,360 --> 01:56:18,320
Speaker 1: show that and you're trying to force them to habit

2191
01:56:18,480 --> 01:56:21,160
Speaker 1: or thinking again, as I mentioned earlier, putting all these

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01:56:21,160 --> 01:56:23,760
Speaker 1: other things around them and then they'll be better. Whenever

2193
01:56:23,800 --> 01:56:27,080
Speaker 1: you're talking about those sort of things. Uh, it really,

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01:56:27,080 --> 01:56:29,600
Speaker 1: it genuinely doesn't work. Now with Josh, when you guys

2195
01:56:29,600 --> 01:56:31,640
Speaker 1: brought us to fine digs in there, it did help,

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01:56:31,680 --> 01:56:35,480
Speaker 1: but he had already shown enough to say, Okay, he

2197
01:56:35,560 --> 01:56:37,840
Speaker 1: has this in him, this will just help him out

2198
01:56:38,320 --> 01:56:41,480
Speaker 1: as opposed to well, you know kind of when you

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01:56:41,560 --> 01:56:43,880
Speaker 1: just justin Herbert when you watched him early, you just

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01:56:43,920 --> 01:56:45,880
Speaker 1: saw it whereas a two in my eyes, and I

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01:56:45,920 --> 01:56:48,520
Speaker 1: wasn't a big too a proponent coming out of college.

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01:56:48,840 --> 01:56:51,280
Speaker 1: I was kind of, you know, on the minority with that.

2203
01:56:51,360 --> 01:56:53,680
Speaker 1: But when and even when you watch him this year,

2204
01:56:53,720 --> 01:56:57,000
Speaker 1: you're like, this is the guy that everybody's been talking about,

2205
01:56:57,040 --> 01:56:59,240
Speaker 1: that the greatest quarterback of all time. You just don't

2206
01:56:59,280 --> 01:57:02,960
Speaker 1: see a lot of special traits or qualities with him,

2207
01:57:03,000 --> 01:57:07,040
Speaker 1: and then the organization really has to be honest with that.

2208
01:57:07,120 --> 01:57:09,480
Speaker 1: And you see this a lot with older quarterbacks as well,

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01:57:10,680 --> 01:57:12,960
Speaker 1: where they're on the decline and you're thinking they're going

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01:57:13,000 --> 01:57:14,520
Speaker 1: to get it back, They're going to get it back.

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01:57:15,040 --> 01:57:17,760
Speaker 1: You saw that with Ben Roethlisberger this year in Pittsburgh,

2212
01:57:17,760 --> 01:57:20,280
Speaker 1: whereas he's going to be he's going back. Once those

2213
01:57:20,280 --> 01:57:22,440
Speaker 1: guys kind of hit the cliff and go down, they're

2214
01:57:22,440 --> 01:57:25,120
Speaker 1: not coming back, and teams have a hard time being

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01:57:25,160 --> 01:57:27,600
Speaker 1: honest with that and assessing it and saying we have

2216
01:57:27,720 --> 01:57:29,520
Speaker 1: to try to move on. You know, I was with

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01:57:29,560 --> 01:57:32,120
Speaker 1: the Giants, who are Yon Manning's last years, and he's

2218
01:57:32,200 --> 01:57:35,000
Speaker 1: there's no more beloved figure and forward organization of any

2219
01:57:35,000 --> 01:57:37,760
Speaker 1: team in history than Eli Manning is with the New

2220
01:57:37,840 --> 01:57:41,960
Speaker 1: York Giants certain fan base, especially with the ownership and

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01:57:42,000 --> 01:57:44,400
Speaker 1: the organization. So it was so hard for a lot

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01:57:44,480 --> 01:57:46,600
Speaker 1: of people to say, you know what, this guy can't

2223
01:57:46,640 --> 01:57:49,080
Speaker 1: do it anymore. And that's when teams making mistakes and

2224
01:57:49,120 --> 01:57:52,680
Speaker 1: you see it year in and year out and again

2225
01:57:52,760 --> 01:57:54,440
Speaker 1: Ben that I guess are gonna bring them back next

2226
01:57:54,480 --> 01:57:56,120
Speaker 1: year too, instead of saying, wow, I don't know if

2227
01:57:56,120 --> 01:57:57,840
Speaker 1: we can get it done. So you have to be

2228
01:57:57,840 --> 01:58:00,760
Speaker 1: honest with your assessments, see what you see on the film,

2229
01:58:00,800 --> 01:58:04,000
Speaker 1: and not grade and make decisions with emotionally or with

2230
01:58:04,080 --> 01:58:06,240
Speaker 1: your heart. Yeah, I know our time is tight here,

2231
01:58:06,240 --> 01:58:07,760
Speaker 1: but I did want to squeeze this last one in

2232
01:58:07,840 --> 01:58:13,040
Speaker 1: just because of your draft season expertise. Again, COVID is

2233
01:58:13,080 --> 01:58:16,480
Speaker 1: going to make this a different kind of draft prep

2234
01:58:17,040 --> 01:58:19,920
Speaker 1: offseason than we've ever seen before. We heard Brandon being

2235
01:58:19,920 --> 01:58:22,480
Speaker 1: earlier today talking about how they can only have ten

2236
01:58:22,520 --> 01:58:24,320
Speaker 1: guys go to the Senior Bowl. They got to get

2237
01:58:24,320 --> 01:58:30,320
Speaker 1: tested every day. Virtual interviews for draft prospects, the pro

2238
01:58:30,400 --> 01:58:32,960
Speaker 1: days are going to take on an enormous amount of importance.

2239
01:58:32,960 --> 01:58:35,440
Speaker 1: But it's hard for me not to remember an old

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01:58:35,520 --> 01:58:38,520
Speaker 1: comment by Buddy Knicks, a long time guy in the

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01:58:38,520 --> 01:58:41,680
Speaker 1: scouting world, as you well know Mark, who said I

2242
01:58:41,840 --> 01:58:46,240
Speaker 1: need to smell their breath. And it sounds ridiculous, but

2243
01:58:47,200 --> 01:58:50,760
Speaker 1: he's right, Like you have to read a prospect's body

2244
01:58:50,800 --> 01:58:53,120
Speaker 1: language in an interview setting. You don't get that in

2245
01:58:53,160 --> 01:58:56,640
Speaker 1: a zoom interview. How are they going to work around

2246
01:58:56,800 --> 01:58:59,720
Speaker 1: all of the hurdles that stand in their way to

2247
01:59:00,200 --> 01:59:03,800
Speaker 1: the same kind of educated decisions in a process that

2248
01:59:03,960 --> 01:59:08,080
Speaker 1: is largely a crapshoot to begin with, Yeah, well you

2249
01:59:08,080 --> 01:59:10,560
Speaker 1: can look at that both ways. Where you know Buddy's

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01:59:10,720 --> 01:59:13,200
Speaker 1: Buddy says that come and scouts always say that. But

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01:59:13,240 --> 01:59:15,200
Speaker 1: there's been a lot of mistakes too. I mean, half

2252
01:59:15,200 --> 01:59:18,640
Speaker 1: the first round is not working. So maybe this is

2253
01:59:18,680 --> 01:59:20,720
Speaker 1: a better way. The teams will say, let's be more

2254
01:59:20,800 --> 01:59:23,440
Speaker 1: efficient and effective and look at different ways to do it.

2255
01:59:23,480 --> 01:59:26,360
Speaker 1: And just like they've had to adapt throughout the regular

2256
01:59:26,360 --> 01:59:29,160
Speaker 1: scouting season with how they've had to evaluate teams, they're

2257
01:59:29,200 --> 01:59:32,960
Speaker 1: going to have to even do it more throughout this season.

2258
01:59:33,080 --> 01:59:35,880
Speaker 1: So I'm through the postseason with all Star Games and

2259
01:59:35,920 --> 01:59:38,600
Speaker 1: the Combine and Pro Days and all right, how can

2260
01:59:38,680 --> 01:59:41,160
Speaker 1: we get an Angel and other teams? Let's not say

2261
01:59:41,240 --> 01:59:45,920
Speaker 1: we can't do these things. How can we maximize this

2262
01:59:46,040 --> 01:59:48,360
Speaker 1: process that we're in right now and do it better

2263
01:59:48,400 --> 01:59:50,640
Speaker 1: than what other teams are doing as opposed to being

2264
01:59:50,800 --> 01:59:55,160
Speaker 1: crippled by the process. And again, a lot of times

2265
01:59:55,160 --> 01:59:58,720
Speaker 1: to me that always the essence of scouting is the film.

2266
01:59:59,360 --> 02:00:02,360
Speaker 1: Is the film the film, And the further way you

2267
02:00:02,400 --> 02:00:05,520
Speaker 1: get from the season through this process. And I've been

2268
02:00:05,520 --> 02:00:07,640
Speaker 1: a part of, you know, twenty plus years of scouting.

2269
02:00:07,760 --> 02:00:11,640
Speaker 1: The further people get away from the film and all

2270
02:00:11,680 --> 02:00:16,280
Speaker 1: these other factors start coming into the forty times, the

2271
02:00:16,720 --> 02:00:20,400
Speaker 1: vertical jumps, the interview process, the psychological tests, you get

2272
02:00:20,440 --> 02:00:24,120
Speaker 1: away from what the real essence of what a player is.

2273
02:00:24,280 --> 02:00:28,240
Speaker 1: And it's interesting. I just watched the Alabama receivers back

2274
02:00:28,240 --> 02:00:30,560
Speaker 1: to back. DeVante Smith, who you guys all know about,

2275
02:00:30,600 --> 02:00:33,720
Speaker 1: and Jail and Wattel and throughout this process. The further

2276
02:00:33,760 --> 02:00:37,080
Speaker 1: you get away from the film of DeVante Smith, you're

2277
02:00:37,080 --> 02:00:38,960
Speaker 1: gonna start hearing more and more about jail and l

2278
02:00:38,960 --> 02:00:41,040
Speaker 1: because he's gonna run a fast forty, he's gonna burgle,

2279
02:00:41,040 --> 02:00:43,120
Speaker 1: he's gonna do all these things, and people are gonna

2280
02:00:43,200 --> 02:00:45,640
Speaker 1: start saying, even though this guy that won the Heisman

2281
02:00:45,680 --> 02:00:48,560
Speaker 1: had had all this and dominated, this teammate of his

2282
02:00:48,720 --> 02:00:51,280
Speaker 1: is going to be a better prospect. So that's just

2283
02:00:51,320 --> 02:00:54,400
Speaker 1: one example I just wanted to bring up. But I

2284
02:00:54,440 --> 02:00:57,320
Speaker 1: think the essence of film, the teams that have better

2285
02:00:57,720 --> 02:01:01,760
Speaker 1: evaluators of the film, I think they'll the prosper throughout

2286
02:01:01,800 --> 02:01:05,560
Speaker 1: this Supermark, that's always thanks for the time. I'm always

2287
02:01:05,600 --> 02:01:08,040
Speaker 1: pleasure to talk to you, and we look forward to

2288
02:01:08,040 --> 02:01:10,440
Speaker 1: maybe catching up with you again before we get to

2289
02:01:10,600 --> 02:01:13,560
Speaker 1: a full blown draft season. Sure let's do it. Appreciate

2290
02:01:13,600 --> 02:01:17,880
Speaker 1: you guys having me on. Appreciate that's NFL analyst Mark Ross,

2291
02:01:18,240 --> 02:01:20,880
Speaker 1: former front office executive for a handful of teams, and

2292
02:01:21,440 --> 02:01:24,040
Speaker 1: guy knows his stuff backwards and forwards, especially for this

2293
02:01:24,120 --> 02:01:26,680
Speaker 1: time of year on the NFL calendar, So always good

2294
02:01:26,720 --> 02:01:28,680
Speaker 1: to have him on with us. We have to take

2295
02:01:28,720 --> 02:01:31,720
Speaker 1: a break. But when we return, Steve and I will

2296
02:01:31,760 --> 02:01:34,440
Speaker 1: continue to delve into some of the more notable comments

2297
02:01:34,440 --> 02:01:37,680
Speaker 1: by one GM Brandon Bean, who gave his wrap up

2298
02:01:38,320 --> 02:01:41,840
Speaker 1: press conference today on the twenty twenty season, and Steve

2299
02:01:41,920 --> 02:01:43,640
Speaker 1: and I will also get to the tweet sheet to

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02:01:43,680 --> 02:01:47,960
Speaker 1: see what your comments are regarding job number one in

2301
02:01:48,000 --> 02:01:51,960
Speaker 1: your eyes for one Brandon Bean this coming off season

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02:01:52,360 --> 02:01:54,080
Speaker 1: for the Bills back in a moment here on one

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02:01:54,120 --> 02:01:55,840
Speaker 1: Bill's life is in a buy collid of health. It's

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio. Bills Live First puts to the caster

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02:02:14,280 --> 02:02:17,600
Speaker 1: with you and it's about that time in the show

2306
02:02:17,640 --> 02:02:21,240
Speaker 1: where we need you the fan to weigh in on

2307
02:02:22,040 --> 02:02:24,960
Speaker 1: you know what we're discussing today, And as we mentioned

2308
02:02:24,960 --> 02:02:28,840
Speaker 1: with our Twitter poll today that we want to know

2309
02:02:28,920 --> 02:02:32,320
Speaker 1: what you feel is the most important move for Bill's

2310
02:02:32,320 --> 02:02:36,160
Speaker 1: GM Brandon Bean to make this offseason. Obviously it's going

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02:02:36,200 --> 02:02:38,160
Speaker 1: to be one of many, but if there's one of

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02:02:38,240 --> 02:02:40,280
Speaker 1: the top of your priority list, we'd like to know

2313
02:02:40,320 --> 02:02:43,960
Speaker 1: what you feel that is some of Bean's comments today.

2314
02:02:44,000 --> 02:02:46,240
Speaker 1: We're very telling in terms of where this team stands

2315
02:02:46,280 --> 02:02:49,040
Speaker 1: as they approach the offseason, not only in terms of

2316
02:02:49,040 --> 02:02:52,640
Speaker 1: how they must get better to close the gap between

2317
02:02:52,680 --> 02:02:56,240
Speaker 1: them and the Kansas City Chiefs. Chiefly that was not

2318
02:02:56,320 --> 02:02:59,200
Speaker 1: upon I didn't mean to do that, sorry, but also

2319
02:03:00,760 --> 02:03:03,640
Speaker 1: where they sit with respect to the salary cap and

2320
02:03:03,680 --> 02:03:07,240
Speaker 1: how that could potentially impact the decisions that they do

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02:03:07,320 --> 02:03:10,320
Speaker 1: make this offseason, because he was saying, there are going

2322
02:03:10,400 --> 02:03:12,480
Speaker 1: to be some tough decisions. They're not going to be

2323
02:03:12,560 --> 02:03:15,440
Speaker 1: aggressive in free agency because of this restricted cap due

2324
02:03:15,440 --> 02:03:18,720
Speaker 1: to COVID and the revenue shortfall that the league experienced

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty. And right now in the early voting,

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Speaker 1: most people are saying, hey, we got to add speed

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Speaker 1: to both sides of the ball to keep up with

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs. Others are saying, resign your own free agents,

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Speaker 1: which is going to be a task, and Steve and

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Speaker 1: I can explain that a little bit further, and then

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Speaker 1: signing Josh Allen to a contract extension, which may be

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Speaker 1: all the more difficult in this offseason with the restricted cap,

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Speaker 1: as Steve and I have discussed through the course of

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Speaker 1: the show today. But we go to the tweet sheet,

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Speaker 1: and as we know, the tweet sheet is brought to

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Speaker 1: you by Caring and Moving Systems, official moving provider of

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills, and leading us off there on the

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Speaker 1: tweet sheet is Kevin, who says I'm confident and Alan

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02:04:04,720 --> 02:04:07,520
Speaker 1: deal gets done, but we need to address getting some

2340
02:04:07,560 --> 02:04:10,400
Speaker 1: speed on this team. It looked like Drew Bledsoe trying

2341
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Speaker 1: to cover and chase Tyree Hill. Wow, throwing a bar

2342
02:04:14,600 --> 02:04:18,200
Speaker 1: But at Drew Bledsoe almost don't necessarily, Steve, look out, duck.

2343
02:04:18,360 --> 02:04:21,840
Speaker 1: Kevin's throwing some darts here. And I'll tell you this, Brownie,

2344
02:04:21,880 --> 02:04:24,320
Speaker 1: I don't know that you're not gonna find anybody that

2345
02:04:24,360 --> 02:04:27,440
Speaker 1: can run with Tyreek Hill. You're just not gonna get

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Speaker 1: it done. Those guys aren't around. So what you have

2347
02:04:30,800 --> 02:04:36,000
Speaker 1: to do is try and formulate different ways of combating

2348
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Speaker 1: his speed. The problem with the Chiefs dilemma is this

2349
02:04:40,760 --> 02:04:45,400
Speaker 1: not only is it Tyreek Hill, it's also Mikole Hardman,

2350
02:04:45,720 --> 02:04:49,520
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey, and Sammy Watkins, along with Clyde Edwards Hilaire

2351
02:04:49,920 --> 02:04:54,560
Speaker 1: their neck deep in speed and guys who can get

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02:04:54,560 --> 02:04:57,360
Speaker 1: it done, particularly at Kelsey with a matchup problem. He

2353
02:04:57,480 --> 02:05:00,880
Speaker 1: is so we saw and we talked about it yesterday.

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02:05:00,880 --> 02:05:02,880
Speaker 1: It was almost it's not. It makes it more simple

2355
02:05:02,880 --> 02:05:05,920
Speaker 1: than it actually was. But you know, Travis Kelsey crushed

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02:05:05,920 --> 02:05:07,480
Speaker 1: the Bills in the first half of his ability to

2357
02:05:07,520 --> 02:05:10,080
Speaker 1: beat in his own coverage, and Tyreek Hill killed him

2358
02:05:10,080 --> 02:05:12,560
Speaker 1: in the second half of his ability to outrun man Um.

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Speaker 1: That's way more simplified than it than it actually was.

2360
02:05:19,240 --> 02:05:21,960
Speaker 1: But one half was Kelsey's, one half was Tyreek Hills,

2361
02:05:21,960 --> 02:05:24,280
Speaker 1: and you got to combat them both. And that's that's

2362
02:05:24,320 --> 02:05:30,240
Speaker 1: a lot to chew up and it's a lot to right.

2363
02:05:30,360 --> 02:05:35,400
Speaker 1: And Brandon Bean said the ways to combat it are

2364
02:05:36,080 --> 02:05:40,040
Speaker 1: in addition to personnel, he mentioned schimatics. So tell me

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Speaker 1: if you if you think this is an oversimplification, Steve,

2366
02:05:43,160 --> 02:05:46,320
Speaker 1: because I don't think I saw this enough in the

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02:05:46,360 --> 02:05:50,240
Speaker 1: way that the Bills play defense, collision at the line

2368
02:05:50,240 --> 02:05:55,040
Speaker 1: of scrimmage, press man, getting up in a player's face.

2369
02:05:55,480 --> 02:05:58,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I remember when Ed Reid was on Rex

2370
02:05:58,160 --> 02:06:01,920
Speaker 1: Ryan's coaching staff here for one Sason, and I know

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02:06:01,960 --> 02:06:04,480
Speaker 1: he believes in this to his core. When you are

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02:06:04,680 --> 02:06:08,160
Speaker 1: going against players that are faster than you, you have

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02:06:08,280 --> 02:06:11,480
Speaker 1: to disrupt them at the line of scrimmage. Because every offense,

2374
02:06:11,600 --> 02:06:15,480
Speaker 1: well the majority of offenses these days, are based on timing,

2375
02:06:16,000 --> 02:06:19,040
Speaker 1: and so that's one reason to collision a guy at

2376
02:06:19,080 --> 02:06:21,600
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. Screw up the timing. Number two,

2377
02:06:21,840 --> 02:06:24,360
Speaker 1: you got a guy that's faster than you. The only

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02:06:24,400 --> 02:06:26,400
Speaker 1: time you're going to be next to him is at

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02:06:26,400 --> 02:06:28,240
Speaker 1: the start of the play, on the other side of

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02:06:28,240 --> 02:06:31,400
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. So is you tell me because

2381
02:06:31,400 --> 02:06:32,920
Speaker 1: you know the X is and knows far better than

2382
02:06:33,000 --> 02:06:36,240
Speaker 1: I do. Is it an oversimplification to say, get guys

2383
02:06:36,320 --> 02:06:39,400
Speaker 1: that can be physical at the line of scrimmage and

2384
02:06:39,520 --> 02:06:41,800
Speaker 1: knock the guy off his route and give him a

2385
02:06:41,800 --> 02:06:44,360
Speaker 1: second and a half before he can get up the field. Yeah,

2386
02:06:44,400 --> 02:06:48,440
Speaker 1: I know, I totally agree with that technique. It's really

2387
02:06:48,520 --> 02:06:51,200
Speaker 1: difficult to overcome that if you don't have an answer

2388
02:06:51,200 --> 02:06:53,480
Speaker 1: at the line of scrimage. Now, Tyreek Hilk can obviously

2389
02:06:53,720 --> 02:06:55,960
Speaker 1: obviously works on his releases and that kind of thing,

2390
02:06:55,960 --> 02:06:59,280
Speaker 1: But you've got to find a way to knock him

2391
02:06:59,320 --> 02:07:01,760
Speaker 1: off his spot. Because you can think about it's that simple.

2392
02:07:01,840 --> 02:07:05,880
Speaker 1: You you alluded to it in your remarks. When you

2393
02:07:05,920 --> 02:07:07,640
Speaker 1: get a hand on the guy, when you knock the

2394
02:07:07,680 --> 02:07:09,920
Speaker 1: guy around, first of all, you knock him off his path.

2395
02:07:10,000 --> 02:07:12,240
Speaker 1: So if he's he's got to get back on his path.

2396
02:07:12,280 --> 02:07:14,960
Speaker 1: If he doesn't get back on his path, he's going

2397
02:07:15,040 --> 02:07:16,520
Speaker 1: to be in a different spot at the end of

2398
02:07:16,520 --> 02:07:18,000
Speaker 1: that route than he was supposed to be for the

2399
02:07:18,080 --> 02:07:21,440
Speaker 1: quarterback to throw him the football, and if he does

2400
02:07:21,480 --> 02:07:23,240
Speaker 1: get back on his path, it's going to take him

2401
02:07:23,240 --> 02:07:25,600
Speaker 1: a long time to get there, and he's gonna have

2402
02:07:25,680 --> 02:07:29,240
Speaker 1: to mess with the timing of the route. So all

2403
02:07:29,240 --> 02:07:31,240
Speaker 1: of that stuff comes into play now. Certainly it's not

2404
02:07:31,320 --> 02:07:32,920
Speaker 1: just as easy to saying, Okay, this time, I'm gonna

2405
02:07:32,920 --> 02:07:35,080
Speaker 1: put my hands on him and push him or whatever.

2406
02:07:35,480 --> 02:07:37,600
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's hard to do. The guy's a good got

2407
02:07:37,600 --> 02:07:39,360
Speaker 1: a good release, and he can he can get away

2408
02:07:39,400 --> 02:07:42,280
Speaker 1: like that. But even in doing so, you're no worse

2409
02:07:42,320 --> 02:07:47,920
Speaker 1: off than you were before, you know. So certainly, if

2410
02:07:47,920 --> 02:07:50,320
Speaker 1: he gets around you, he can take you deep unless

2411
02:07:50,320 --> 02:07:52,320
Speaker 1: you've got a safety over the top. But that's you know,

2412
02:07:52,360 --> 02:07:54,240
Speaker 1: you got to do that, put a safety over the top.

2413
02:07:54,240 --> 02:07:56,640
Speaker 1: And if he gets a good release on a press man,

2414
02:07:56,840 --> 02:08:00,560
Speaker 1: at least you've got underneath help on him. So I'm

2415
02:08:00,600 --> 02:08:03,040
Speaker 1: totally with you. I think the physical nature of the

2416
02:08:03,080 --> 02:08:05,800
Speaker 1: game and how it's been affected with you know, player

2417
02:08:05,880 --> 02:08:09,200
Speaker 1: safety and with the illegal bumps down in the secondary

2418
02:08:09,200 --> 02:08:12,760
Speaker 1: with no holding and being called tighter, Certainly guys have

2419
02:08:13,360 --> 02:08:16,400
Speaker 1: had more success who otherwise would not have had success

2420
02:08:16,480 --> 02:08:19,560
Speaker 1: because they can run free and they became better when

2421
02:08:19,560 --> 02:08:22,240
Speaker 1: the rules allowed them not to be touched or to

2422
02:08:22,320 --> 02:08:25,040
Speaker 1: run more free. So there's a little bit of that

2423
02:08:25,120 --> 02:08:28,360
Speaker 1: going on, but the physical nature of the game is

2424
02:08:28,400 --> 02:08:29,920
Speaker 1: still the essence of it, and I think he got

2425
02:08:29,920 --> 02:08:31,920
Speaker 1: to take full advantage of it if you're playing defense

2426
02:08:31,920 --> 02:08:35,760
Speaker 1: on these guys. And that's why in my opinion, and

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02:08:35,800 --> 02:08:37,400
Speaker 1: I know I've said this to you more off the

2428
02:08:37,400 --> 02:08:39,320
Speaker 1: air than on the air, but it's my opinion that

2429
02:08:39,360 --> 02:08:41,520
Speaker 1: a guy like Dan Jackson, who is a physical, in

2430
02:08:41,560 --> 02:08:44,440
Speaker 1: your face type corner san's a good chance of winning

2431
02:08:44,440 --> 02:08:46,360
Speaker 1: a starting job next year if he can prove he

2432
02:08:46,400 --> 02:08:48,840
Speaker 1: can do that better than other guys. And Brandon Bean

2433
02:08:48,880 --> 02:08:51,080
Speaker 1: apparently said as much late in the press conference after

2434
02:08:51,120 --> 02:08:54,680
Speaker 1: we left him. He said he believes that Dan Jackson's

2435
02:08:54,680 --> 02:08:57,040
Speaker 1: a player they wish they could have gotten more opportunities

2436
02:08:57,040 --> 02:08:59,600
Speaker 1: for through the course of this season, and he believes

2437
02:08:59,640 --> 02:09:01,680
Speaker 1: he will be in a position to compete for the

2438
02:09:01,760 --> 02:09:04,520
Speaker 1: job opposite Trdavius White. And I think it's rooted in

2439
02:09:04,560 --> 02:09:07,560
Speaker 1: the fact that he can play physical and at the

2440
02:09:07,640 --> 02:09:10,080
Speaker 1: line and jam guys at the line of scrimmage and

2441
02:09:10,120 --> 02:09:13,200
Speaker 1: combat these guys that are far superior in the area

2442
02:09:13,240 --> 02:09:17,200
Speaker 1: of speed Yeah, he doesn't. He doesn't shrink away from

2443
02:09:17,200 --> 02:09:19,160
Speaker 1: the physicality. If he's not a big guy, he's a

2444
02:09:19,200 --> 02:09:24,720
Speaker 1: small corner, but he doesn't shy away from the contact.

2445
02:09:24,800 --> 02:09:26,680
Speaker 1: He plays a physical game. Now that you know, that

2446
02:09:27,360 --> 02:09:31,640
Speaker 1: didn't serve him well when he was injured because of

2447
02:09:31,640 --> 02:09:34,360
Speaker 1: the way he plays. It's a big man's game and

2448
02:09:34,400 --> 02:09:36,520
Speaker 1: he's not that big, but he plays a physical so

2449
02:09:37,280 --> 02:09:39,400
Speaker 1: he's got to hold up to it physically. But that

2450
02:09:39,680 --> 02:09:42,400
Speaker 1: is the exact kind of attitude you need to play

2451
02:09:42,440 --> 02:09:45,080
Speaker 1: that spot, and I think it serves him well when

2452
02:09:45,080 --> 02:09:47,920
Speaker 1: he's in a competition and a training camp for guys

2453
02:09:48,800 --> 02:09:51,760
Speaker 1: trying to get a spot. So I'm I'm totally with you.

2454
02:09:51,840 --> 02:09:54,680
Speaker 1: Day Jackson's guy to keep your eye on this offseason.

2455
02:09:55,200 --> 02:10:00,120
Speaker 1: We've said it a lot this week that Levi wall

2456
02:10:00,320 --> 02:10:03,800
Speaker 1: is going to be a free agent and the Bills

2457
02:10:03,800 --> 02:10:05,760
Speaker 1: have been trying to replace Levi for three years and

2458
02:10:05,760 --> 02:10:07,920
Speaker 1: could not get it done. And they could not get

2459
02:10:07,960 --> 02:10:12,160
Speaker 1: it done if they lose him to free agency, Guys

2460
02:10:12,200 --> 02:10:14,760
Speaker 1: like Dane Jackson are going to be ready to step

2461
02:10:14,800 --> 02:10:17,200
Speaker 1: into the void for sure. Yeah, And to be clear,

2462
02:10:17,440 --> 02:10:19,760
Speaker 1: Levi is a restricted free agent, so there is a

2463
02:10:19,760 --> 02:10:22,000
Speaker 1: way that they could get him back with a low tender,

2464
02:10:22,120 --> 02:10:24,960
Speaker 1: but you also run the risk of losing him because

2465
02:10:24,960 --> 02:10:28,440
Speaker 1: he has he comes with no compensation if you tender

2466
02:10:28,520 --> 02:10:32,720
Speaker 1: Levi Wallace at the low tender, because the low tender

2467
02:10:32,760 --> 02:10:35,360
Speaker 1: you would get his equivalent draft compensation, but he was

2468
02:10:35,360 --> 02:10:38,040
Speaker 1: not drafted, so somebody could sign him away at the

2469
02:10:38,080 --> 02:10:41,800
Speaker 1: low tender at no cost. So you know that's what

2470
02:10:41,880 --> 02:10:44,960
Speaker 1: you'd be looking at with that situation. And then to

2471
02:10:45,040 --> 02:10:47,640
Speaker 1: take it a step further, and I'm not trying to be,

2472
02:10:48,080 --> 02:10:51,000
Speaker 1: you know, the number one guy in the Dane Jackson

2473
02:10:51,000 --> 02:10:52,920
Speaker 1: fan club, but I like what I saw from him,

2474
02:10:52,960 --> 02:10:57,080
Speaker 1: and I liked his aggressive play, and I think he's

2475
02:10:57,080 --> 02:10:59,880
Speaker 1: one of those types of cornerbacks who plays bigger than

2476
02:11:00,120 --> 02:11:02,880
Speaker 1: his size. Then you add in the fact that he's

2477
02:11:02,920 --> 02:11:06,080
Speaker 1: going to get a full offseason in an NFL offseason

2478
02:11:06,160 --> 02:11:08,720
Speaker 1: conditioning program, one of the best in the league here

2479
02:11:08,760 --> 02:11:12,240
Speaker 1: in Buffalo under Eric Siano, and I think he would

2480
02:11:12,320 --> 02:11:16,720
Speaker 1: be in position to legitimately take a starting job with

2481
02:11:16,760 --> 02:11:19,640
Speaker 1: a good training camp and showing progress in his game,

2482
02:11:20,040 --> 02:11:23,160
Speaker 1: provided the Bills don't take another step and add another

2483
02:11:23,200 --> 02:11:27,240
Speaker 1: physical corner in the mix via the draft. So and

2484
02:11:27,800 --> 02:11:30,320
Speaker 1: believe me, if I'm Buffalo I do it anyway, right,

2485
02:11:30,440 --> 02:11:33,160
Speaker 1: even if I am excited about Dane Jackson, give me

2486
02:11:33,200 --> 02:11:36,920
Speaker 1: a cornerback who plays bigger than his size or has

2487
02:11:37,040 --> 02:11:39,360
Speaker 1: the size to go with a physical type of game,

2488
02:11:39,400 --> 02:11:42,080
Speaker 1: because to me, that is what you need to do.

2489
02:11:42,480 --> 02:11:46,600
Speaker 1: I love Taron Johnson, but Tarn Johnson is five ten

2490
02:11:47,160 --> 02:11:51,440
Speaker 1: buck eighty and while he does play more physical than

2491
02:11:51,520 --> 02:11:55,160
Speaker 1: his size, there were times this season where he was

2492
02:11:55,240 --> 02:11:58,520
Speaker 1: just flat out overmatched by a physically superior player in

2493
02:11:58,600 --> 02:12:02,720
Speaker 1: the slot. And believe me, I'm a big Terran Johnson fan.

2494
02:12:03,240 --> 02:12:05,920
Speaker 1: But these are some of those areas that Brandon Bean

2495
02:12:06,080 --> 02:12:08,440
Speaker 1: was talking about today when he said we have to

2496
02:12:08,480 --> 02:12:11,560
Speaker 1: look and see where we can get better. And in

2497
02:12:11,600 --> 02:12:13,400
Speaker 1: the area of coverage, I think you have to be

2498
02:12:13,480 --> 02:12:16,440
Speaker 1: more versatile by virtue of the players you're playing on

2499
02:12:16,480 --> 02:12:19,200
Speaker 1: the field and by agreeing to play more press man

2500
02:12:19,280 --> 02:12:21,760
Speaker 1: and you need the players that can execute them right.

2501
02:12:21,880 --> 02:12:24,960
Speaker 1: And yeah, I think the physicality sometimes gets forgotten in

2502
02:12:25,000 --> 02:12:26,640
Speaker 1: the fact that you know, you see a lot of

2503
02:12:26,640 --> 02:12:29,480
Speaker 1: guys like even the Bill, you know, guys going down

2504
02:12:29,560 --> 02:12:33,680
Speaker 1: and not taking the hit. Um Dan Jackson five eleven

2505
02:12:33,760 --> 02:12:39,680
Speaker 1: buck eighty, so he's he could five eleven is you

2506
02:12:39,920 --> 02:12:42,040
Speaker 1: can carry a problem. You could carry probably one hundred

2507
02:12:42,120 --> 02:12:44,640
Speaker 1: ninety five pounds of weight. Yeah, he gets up to

2508
02:12:44,680 --> 02:12:47,320
Speaker 1: one ninety now we're talking, and they could and they

2509
02:12:47,360 --> 02:12:49,320
Speaker 1: may ask him to do that, but it's up. But

2510
02:12:49,520 --> 02:12:52,000
Speaker 1: it takes out of hard work and commitment. So yeah,

2511
02:12:52,000 --> 02:12:54,240
Speaker 1: it does. Yeah, So that's a lot of weight, trust me,

2512
02:12:54,400 --> 02:12:57,080
Speaker 1: it does, especially the right kind. You know, they want

2513
02:12:57,160 --> 02:13:01,680
Speaker 1: lean muscle mass. They don't want. You're packing on facts

2514
02:13:01,720 --> 02:13:05,160
Speaker 1: from eating nothing but steak and potatoes. It's all right.

2515
02:13:05,200 --> 02:13:07,160
Speaker 1: I know we're up. I know we're up against the breaks.

2516
02:13:07,200 --> 02:13:09,240
Speaker 1: So we will step aside here, but a lot more

2517
02:13:09,280 --> 02:13:11,160
Speaker 1: to discuss on this. More of your comments from the

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Speaker 1: tweet sheet, and feel free to weigh in with a

2519
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Speaker 1: phone call. At eight oh three five fifty Steve Tasker

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Speaker 1: Chris Brown with you for another hour plus here on

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Speaker 1: Bill's Radio. We'll welcome back to One Bills Live, Chris

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Speaker 1: browns to chaster with you as we motor home through

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Speaker 1: our number two of the show, and we'll be getting

2525
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Speaker 1: into some of the more notable comments from Brandon Bean

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Speaker 1: in the two o'clock hour. So if you missed our

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Speaker 1: special Bonus Hour in the eleven o'clock hour with Brandon

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Speaker 1: Bean Live in his season wrap up conference. We will

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Speaker 1: be playing some of his more notable comments coming up

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Speaker 1: after the top of the hour, so stay tuned for that.

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Speaker 1: But we do want to get back to the tweet sheet,

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Speaker 1: I asked what's the most important move for the Bills,

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02:14:16,160 --> 02:14:19,240
Speaker 1: GM Brandon being this offseason. Bobby says, I believe they

2536
02:14:19,560 --> 02:14:22,680
Speaker 1: need to address their running back situation, either in free

2537
02:14:22,720 --> 02:14:26,800
Speaker 1: agency or through the draft. Now, Steve, we do know

2538
02:14:26,840 --> 02:14:29,800
Speaker 1: that Brandon Bean did address this very subject today, and

2539
02:14:29,840 --> 02:14:32,320
Speaker 1: I thought his comments were very telling, and I'm happy

2540
02:14:32,360 --> 02:14:35,120
Speaker 1: to report that I believe, at least on the surface,

2541
02:14:35,200 --> 02:14:37,040
Speaker 1: he is on the same page as you and I

2542
02:14:37,360 --> 02:14:43,320
Speaker 1: because he said Motor Singletary and Zach Moss did not

2543
02:14:43,440 --> 02:14:46,640
Speaker 1: come up short this year. He seemed to be pretty

2544
02:14:46,680 --> 02:14:50,040
Speaker 1: happy with where they were in terms of what they

2545
02:14:50,040 --> 02:14:53,160
Speaker 1: were able to provide when given the opportunity. And we

2546
02:14:53,200 --> 02:14:55,720
Speaker 1: know this team did not run a whole lot this season,

2547
02:14:56,120 --> 02:14:59,400
Speaker 1: and he said the run game is a complex thing.

2548
02:15:00,360 --> 02:15:04,560
Speaker 1: There were times we were just one guy away, and

2549
02:15:04,640 --> 02:15:07,480
Speaker 1: he said, whether that's a block or missing a hole

2550
02:15:08,000 --> 02:15:10,960
Speaker 1: or something else. But it seemed to me, Steve, and

2551
02:15:11,040 --> 02:15:14,040
Speaker 1: tell me if you felt differently that he was pointing

2552
02:15:14,160 --> 02:15:17,920
Speaker 1: more to the functionality of the run game than the

2553
02:15:17,920 --> 02:15:23,080
Speaker 1: two primary running backs themselves. Yeah, I don't whatever he

2554
02:15:23,120 --> 02:15:25,200
Speaker 1: was pointing to, I think he I think they're happy

2555
02:15:25,200 --> 02:15:27,160
Speaker 1: with the way the two running backs performed. I think

2556
02:15:27,160 --> 02:15:29,960
Speaker 1: they liked Moss showing the physicality that they thought he

2557
02:15:29,960 --> 02:15:32,400
Speaker 1: would bring to the table. And of course Devin Singletary's

2558
02:15:32,440 --> 02:15:35,560
Speaker 1: more about making guys miss in tight spaces and getting yards.

2559
02:15:36,280 --> 02:15:39,320
Speaker 1: I think I think, I think you're right. He didn't

2560
02:15:39,320 --> 02:15:43,960
Speaker 1: say offensive line, and he also didn't say we're outright

2561
02:15:44,000 --> 02:15:47,720
Speaker 1: that you know their running scheme wasn't effective. I just

2562
02:15:47,760 --> 02:15:49,480
Speaker 1: don't think he puts it at the at the feet

2563
02:15:49,480 --> 02:15:51,640
Speaker 1: of the running back. I think he puts it more

2564
02:15:51,720 --> 02:15:54,840
Speaker 1: as a as a function of where they were with

2565
02:15:54,880 --> 02:15:59,200
Speaker 1: a passing game. Also the blocking up front at times,

2566
02:15:59,480 --> 02:16:01,560
Speaker 1: and I think wide receivers in the fact they ran

2567
02:16:01,720 --> 02:16:04,120
Speaker 1: so much three and four wide receiver was a factor

2568
02:16:04,160 --> 02:16:08,400
Speaker 1: in it. So I think some of it. Yeah, I

2569
02:16:09,440 --> 02:16:12,200
Speaker 1: don't think he lays the blame for the lack of

2570
02:16:12,200 --> 02:16:15,840
Speaker 1: a running game, or at least not the prominence of

2571
02:16:15,880 --> 02:16:17,840
Speaker 1: a running game at the feet of the running back

2572
02:16:17,880 --> 02:16:20,560
Speaker 1: and their inability to do a good job. I think,

2573
02:16:20,920 --> 02:16:23,560
Speaker 1: and I think that's where I'm at. Two. I mean,

2574
02:16:23,600 --> 02:16:26,120
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna they're gonna they're gonna struggle to

2575
02:16:26,160 --> 02:16:30,080
Speaker 1: put this offensive line back together this offseason because of

2576
02:16:30,080 --> 02:16:32,200
Speaker 1: the free agents that are there and the guys that

2577
02:16:32,240 --> 02:16:35,000
Speaker 1: are may or may not be here. So I think

2578
02:16:35,040 --> 02:16:40,640
Speaker 1: that's gonna be the key factor in what they do

2579
02:16:40,680 --> 02:16:43,280
Speaker 1: with the offensive line going forward, their ability to get

2580
02:16:43,320 --> 02:16:47,800
Speaker 1: guys in here who can help them run the football better. Right,

2581
02:16:47,959 --> 02:16:52,160
Speaker 1: And you know, I think that, yeah, there could be

2582
02:16:52,200 --> 02:16:55,040
Speaker 1: some upheaval there between now and next season. So if

2583
02:16:55,040 --> 02:16:57,760
Speaker 1: you know your line is probably gonna undergo some changes,

2584
02:16:58,560 --> 02:17:00,560
Speaker 1: do you also want to make wholesale changes at the

2585
02:17:00,600 --> 02:17:04,480
Speaker 1: running back position. I don't. I don't know that you do. Sure,

2586
02:17:04,560 --> 02:17:06,920
Speaker 1: you can add some competition to the mix, It's not

2587
02:17:06,959 --> 02:17:08,600
Speaker 1: going to be in the form of a free agent.

2588
02:17:08,640 --> 02:17:11,039
Speaker 1: That's probably the last position you want to invest in

2589
02:17:11,080 --> 02:17:16,560
Speaker 1: free agency at, just from the the numbers of attrition

2590
02:17:17,160 --> 02:17:19,600
Speaker 1: that exist at that position from year to year. Knowing

2591
02:17:19,640 --> 02:17:22,680
Speaker 1: the quick decline that players often experience after their age

2592
02:17:22,720 --> 02:17:27,000
Speaker 1: twenty eighth season. And you have two young players here

2593
02:17:27,040 --> 02:17:29,840
Speaker 1: who are capable. Now you want to talk about adding

2594
02:17:30,720 --> 02:17:33,160
Speaker 1: speed to the offense and maybe a home run hitter

2595
02:17:33,160 --> 02:17:37,640
Speaker 1: at that position. Okay, I'll listen to that. But I

2596
02:17:37,680 --> 02:17:40,560
Speaker 1: think this is more of an all encompassing issue than

2597
02:17:40,600 --> 02:17:45,879
Speaker 1: it is a running back position issue. So it'll be

2598
02:17:45,920 --> 02:17:50,240
Speaker 1: interesting to see where it goes. Because I thought you

2599
02:17:50,280 --> 02:17:52,320
Speaker 1: made a great point on the show yesterday, Steve when

2600
02:17:52,360 --> 02:17:55,800
Speaker 1: you said the Bills have been down this road before.

2601
02:17:56,480 --> 02:17:58,960
Speaker 1: They had a home run hitter at running back in c. J.

2602
02:17:59,160 --> 02:18:02,959
Speaker 1: Spiller didn't work because the line wasn't good enough. They

2603
02:18:03,000 --> 02:18:07,280
Speaker 1: had Marshawn Lynch here, he had some success, but you know,

2604
02:18:07,320 --> 02:18:11,199
Speaker 1: the line was not a heavy investment by this organization

2605
02:18:11,240 --> 02:18:14,000
Speaker 1: at that time. I think this team has invested pretty

2606
02:18:14,000 --> 02:18:16,640
Speaker 1: steadily in the offensive line in the form of free

2607
02:18:16,640 --> 02:18:20,080
Speaker 1: agency and in terms of draft choices. Oh yeah, yeah,

2608
02:18:20,120 --> 02:18:23,320
Speaker 1: but you know, maybe it maybe it requires just a

2609
02:18:23,320 --> 02:18:26,879
Speaker 1: couple of more investments, especially knowing the potential turnover that

2610
02:18:26,879 --> 02:18:30,360
Speaker 1: could exist there with the free agency have at those positions.

2611
02:18:30,480 --> 02:18:33,960
Speaker 1: It's yeah, it's about the return on investment and about

2612
02:18:34,000 --> 02:18:36,120
Speaker 1: making quality investments. I mean they went out and made

2613
02:18:36,160 --> 02:18:40,600
Speaker 1: Mitch Moore's the highest Paige center in the league. They

2614
02:18:40,640 --> 02:18:46,880
Speaker 1: filled in some free agents, Mike Butker and Brian Winters.

2615
02:18:47,720 --> 02:18:50,720
Speaker 1: Pody Ford was a second round pick. Yeah, all those guys.

2616
02:18:50,879 --> 02:18:53,879
Speaker 1: But they haven't I mean, Cody Ford was a second

2617
02:18:53,959 --> 02:18:58,279
Speaker 1: round pick. He's like the highest credential guy on the line,

2618
02:18:58,640 --> 02:19:01,560
Speaker 1: right except for me and Dion and Des and Deon Dawkins.

2619
02:19:01,560 --> 02:19:05,600
Speaker 1: There you go. So they got Dawkins and great. Dion

2620
02:19:05,720 --> 02:19:08,800
Speaker 1: played great this year. I thought he had a fantastic here.

2621
02:19:09,640 --> 02:19:12,280
Speaker 1: I thought Feliciano played well once he got in there.

2622
02:19:12,280 --> 02:19:14,480
Speaker 1: He was out of the out of the game for

2623
02:19:14,879 --> 02:19:16,960
Speaker 1: first five or six weeks of the season. Was it

2624
02:19:17,120 --> 02:19:20,560
Speaker 1: something like that until he finally got on the field.

2625
02:19:20,720 --> 02:19:23,320
Speaker 1: Then Cody Ford goes out. Mitch Morris was in and

2626
02:19:23,360 --> 02:19:26,640
Speaker 1: out of the lineup. Remember we had Mitch Morris, Cody Ford,

2627
02:19:27,120 --> 02:19:30,320
Speaker 1: and John Feliciano for all of about three snaps the

2628
02:19:30,480 --> 02:19:35,680
Speaker 1: entire season together. Yeah, and that's so they never were

2629
02:19:35,760 --> 02:19:39,960
Speaker 1: hitting on all cylinders at any point during the regular season. Now,

2630
02:19:40,360 --> 02:19:46,080
Speaker 1: I wonder if they feel the composition of the offensive

2631
02:19:46,120 --> 02:19:49,120
Speaker 1: line needs to change again this offseason. I guess what

2632
02:19:49,120 --> 02:19:53,440
Speaker 1: I'm getting at there, Steve, is this we know that

2633
02:19:54,120 --> 02:20:00,560
Speaker 1: in twenty seventeen, and even to a certain extent twenty eighteen, well, eighteen,

2634
02:20:00,560 --> 02:20:02,440
Speaker 1: the line was just flat out not good enough. Twenty

2635
02:20:02,520 --> 02:20:06,520
Speaker 1: seventeen you still had remnants of what was to a

2636
02:20:06,560 --> 02:20:09,800
Speaker 1: great degree of power rushing offensive line. You still had

2637
02:20:09,879 --> 02:20:12,320
Speaker 1: Eric Wood on the roster, you still had Richie Incognito

2638
02:20:12,400 --> 02:20:17,480
Speaker 1: on the roster, you know, run blocking guys right, and

2639
02:20:17,600 --> 02:20:21,800
Speaker 1: Dion Dawkins was a rookie. Correct, then you kind of

2640
02:20:21,840 --> 02:20:25,160
Speaker 1: see the change from twenty eighteen to twenty nineteen. But

2641
02:20:25,280 --> 02:20:32,080
Speaker 1: they still had big, girthy type guards and you had,

2642
02:20:32,320 --> 02:20:35,520
Speaker 1: you know, Quentin Spain being one of them, among others.

2643
02:20:36,120 --> 02:20:39,720
Speaker 1: And the problem last year was what, Steve. They could

2644
02:20:39,760 --> 02:20:43,480
Speaker 1: not get guys out to run a screenplay effectively. They

2645
02:20:43,480 --> 02:20:45,920
Speaker 1: weren't athletic enough to do that. There was no screen

2646
02:20:45,959 --> 02:20:48,600
Speaker 1: game to speak up. So what do they do? They

2647
02:20:48,640 --> 02:20:52,360
Speaker 1: get lighter and more athletic at the guard positions going

2648
02:20:52,440 --> 02:20:56,360
Speaker 1: into this season. Fine, if that's your approach and you're

2649
02:20:56,360 --> 02:20:58,840
Speaker 1: gonna be a throwing football team, I get it. But

2650
02:20:58,920 --> 02:21:02,160
Speaker 1: I wonder if they come into this offseason saying we

2651
02:21:02,240 --> 02:21:05,440
Speaker 1: may have taken that a step too far because a

2652
02:21:05,600 --> 02:21:07,920
Speaker 1: run game and resetting the line of scrimmage in the

2653
02:21:08,000 --> 02:21:10,040
Speaker 1: run game suffered as a result. Do you think they

2654
02:21:10,040 --> 02:21:17,560
Speaker 1: could conceivably come to that conclusion. Certainly, we both thought

2655
02:21:17,600 --> 02:21:19,480
Speaker 1: that they were undersized on both sides of the line

2656
02:21:19,480 --> 02:21:23,160
Speaker 1: of scrimmage at times this year. But they got caught.

2657
02:21:23,640 --> 02:21:25,959
Speaker 1: They got hit in the side of the head with

2658
02:21:26,040 --> 02:21:29,000
Speaker 1: no recourse to make it better. When they lost Ritchie

2659
02:21:29,080 --> 02:21:33,280
Speaker 1: Incognito and Derek Wood about six weeks apart in the

2660
02:21:33,360 --> 02:21:37,360
Speaker 1: offseason of twenty eighteen before that season started, and they

2661
02:21:37,400 --> 02:21:39,520
Speaker 1: didn't get anything in return for either one of them.

2662
02:21:39,840 --> 02:21:42,800
Speaker 1: They were both They just a Pro Bowl guard and

2663
02:21:42,840 --> 02:21:45,680
Speaker 1: your starting center just plucked out of your offensive line

2664
02:21:46,040 --> 02:21:48,440
Speaker 1: and you had to replace them with no extra draft picks,

2665
02:21:48,760 --> 02:21:52,040
Speaker 1: no extra money, and free agency nothing. And you can

2666
02:21:52,080 --> 02:21:54,120
Speaker 1: make the argument they experienced the same thing on the

2667
02:21:54,160 --> 02:21:57,640
Speaker 1: defensive line with the Star opt out. That's right this year,

2668
02:21:57,959 --> 02:22:00,800
Speaker 1: the Star opt out, and they lost Jordan Philip and Shack,

2669
02:22:01,920 --> 02:22:03,520
Speaker 1: so they had to replace him. But they did have

2670
02:22:03,680 --> 02:22:06,560
Speaker 1: but they kind of saw that coming, I mean the

2671
02:22:07,240 --> 02:22:11,000
Speaker 1: Star opt out. No they didn't, but Shack and Jordan Phillips,

2672
02:22:11,040 --> 02:22:13,440
Speaker 1: they could see those coming. They had no idea. Richie

2673
02:22:13,440 --> 02:22:17,720
Speaker 1: Incognito and Eric Woodward even I'm talking specifically in the

2674
02:22:17,840 --> 02:22:20,440
Speaker 1: terms of that you were just addressing being a little light,

2675
02:22:21,080 --> 02:22:24,200
Speaker 1: because Brandon Bean even said that today that they felt

2676
02:22:24,200 --> 02:22:26,640
Speaker 1: they were a little light on the defensive front due

2677
02:22:26,640 --> 02:22:29,040
Speaker 1: to the departure due to the opt out of Star.

2678
02:22:29,800 --> 02:22:32,880
Speaker 1: And then you know, they didn't adequately replace Jordan Phillips

2679
02:22:32,920 --> 02:22:35,640
Speaker 1: with the same type of player inside percent, right, because

2680
02:22:35,879 --> 02:22:37,840
Speaker 1: Ed Oliver is not that kind of player, and there's

2681
02:22:37,879 --> 02:22:39,920
Speaker 1: a place for a guy like Ed Oliver on every team.

2682
02:22:39,959 --> 02:22:42,680
Speaker 1: There's it's not like they went out and took this

2683
02:22:42,720 --> 02:22:45,400
Speaker 1: guy that can't play defensive tackle. Ed Oliver can play,

2684
02:22:45,600 --> 02:22:48,360
Speaker 1: and he'll play very well, but he's part of a

2685
02:22:48,440 --> 02:22:52,320
Speaker 1: group and he's not an Aaron Donald. He's not a

2686
02:22:52,959 --> 02:22:55,680
Speaker 1: John Randall type of guy. He's that type of guy,

2687
02:22:55,680 --> 02:23:00,560
Speaker 1: but he's not not there. So you know, it's not

2688
02:23:00,600 --> 02:23:02,160
Speaker 1: like they didn't try. They I mean it took a

2689
02:23:02,200 --> 02:23:04,120
Speaker 1: high draft pick and put him a defensive tackle. But

2690
02:23:04,240 --> 02:23:06,480
Speaker 1: he's the type of player that's not a big, you know,

2691
02:23:06,640 --> 02:23:08,200
Speaker 1: run heavy guy. He's not going to be able to

2692
02:23:08,240 --> 02:23:10,039
Speaker 1: set the line of scrimmage like that because he's two

2693
02:23:10,120 --> 02:23:13,200
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty pounds. So um, you know there there,

2694
02:23:13,240 --> 02:23:16,039
Speaker 1: they are going to need some some bigger bodies in

2695
02:23:16,080 --> 02:23:19,240
Speaker 1: there and some more physicality. I think all right, we

2696
02:23:19,280 --> 02:23:21,680
Speaker 1: blew through the brake, so before Jay shoots us on site,

2697
02:23:21,760 --> 02:23:24,440
Speaker 1: I'm going to step us aside here. But when we

2698
02:23:24,520 --> 02:23:26,640
Speaker 1: come back, we'll get into some of Brandon Bean's more

2699
02:23:26,760 --> 02:23:31,440
Speaker 1: notable comments from his press conference today. We'll dissect all

2700
02:23:31,480 --> 02:23:33,320
Speaker 1: of that when we return here on One Bill's Live,

2701
02:23:33,360 --> 02:23:53,280
Speaker 1: presented by Allow to Help. It's Buffalo Fields grazed at

2702
02:23:53,280 --> 02:23:56,760
Speaker 1: a Steve Tasker who has been all over her fields.

2703
02:23:56,879 --> 02:23:58,440
Speaker 1: Kind of unique. He was kind of a dual role

2704
02:23:58,560 --> 02:24:04,879
Speaker 1: player for see Lily Steve a blimp. We're not even

2705
02:24:04,920 --> 02:24:11,400
Speaker 1: in the straded here of normalcy here, Oh, welcome to

2706
02:24:11,440 --> 02:24:15,119
Speaker 1: the final hour of a Wednesday edition of One Bill's Live.

2707
02:24:15,160 --> 02:24:18,400
Speaker 1: Priss Brown, Steve Chasker with you, and we want to

2708
02:24:18,440 --> 02:24:22,320
Speaker 1: dive into some of the comments by general manager Brandon

2709
02:24:22,400 --> 02:24:25,680
Speaker 1: Beam in his season wrap up press conference today, which

2710
02:24:25,680 --> 02:24:28,320
Speaker 1: we brought to you live in a special bonus hour

2711
02:24:28,360 --> 02:24:30,840
Speaker 1: of the show today in the eleven o'clock hour. We

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02:24:30,879 --> 02:24:33,600
Speaker 1: are now in the final hour of the program. But

2713
02:24:33,959 --> 02:24:35,800
Speaker 1: for those of you just joining us now, we wanted

2714
02:24:35,800 --> 02:24:38,760
Speaker 1: to catch you up, so to speak, and we'll begin here.

2715
02:24:38,879 --> 02:24:43,280
Speaker 1: Steve josh Allen is obviously somebody that you know, people

2716
02:24:43,280 --> 02:24:46,320
Speaker 1: will be interested to hear what Brandon Bean's thoughts were

2717
02:24:46,400 --> 02:24:49,879
Speaker 1: on him and his third year in a Bill's uniform. Obviously,

2718
02:24:49,959 --> 02:24:52,320
Speaker 1: it was a banner season in which he improved across

2719
02:24:52,360 --> 02:24:55,480
Speaker 1: the board in several areas. But here was the general

2720
02:24:55,520 --> 02:25:01,200
Speaker 1: managers take on josh Allen's progress in twenty twenty. This year,

2721
02:25:01,240 --> 02:25:05,000
Speaker 1: he really played well against various defenses. I mean, I

2722
02:25:05,000 --> 02:25:09,240
Speaker 1: think last year some of the press man on offense

2723
02:25:09,240 --> 02:25:12,520
Speaker 1: and it wasn't just him. Some of our receivers didn't

2724
02:25:12,520 --> 02:25:15,480
Speaker 1: necessarily get open. Maybe he didn't make the right reads,

2725
02:25:15,520 --> 02:25:17,920
Speaker 1: maybe he felt the pressure. I thought, you know, he

2726
02:25:17,959 --> 02:25:21,200
Speaker 1: really showed well against that. I thought he also in

2727
02:25:21,320 --> 02:25:22,880
Speaker 1: most of the games. He had a couple of games

2728
02:25:22,879 --> 02:25:25,440
Speaker 1: where he did, but most of the games when teams

2729
02:25:25,640 --> 02:25:28,280
Speaker 1: made him didn't give him the deep ball, the home

2730
02:25:28,360 --> 02:25:31,160
Speaker 1: run ball that he does like to throw, he checked

2731
02:25:31,160 --> 02:25:33,200
Speaker 1: it down a lot and just took what they gave

2732
02:25:33,280 --> 02:25:36,000
Speaker 1: him and was willing to hit that ten eleven twelve

2733
02:25:36,040 --> 02:25:41,680
Speaker 1: play drive, you know, for points and just understanding what

2734
02:25:41,720 --> 02:25:43,640
Speaker 1: the defense has given us. How he's been played and

2735
02:25:43,760 --> 02:25:46,120
Speaker 1: understanding the game. You know, you go back to that

2736
02:25:46,160 --> 02:25:49,240
Speaker 1: New England game from a year ago when he had

2737
02:25:49,240 --> 02:25:51,800
Speaker 1: all those turnovers. I think one of the big things

2738
02:25:51,840 --> 02:25:54,160
Speaker 1: we talked to Josh about and that Josh learned was

2739
02:25:55,080 --> 02:25:57,400
Speaker 1: some games we don't need you to score thirty. Some

2740
02:25:57,480 --> 02:25:59,680
Speaker 1: are going to be a defensive struggle and we just

2741
02:25:59,720 --> 02:26:03,039
Speaker 1: want to possessed the ball, play field position, let our

2742
02:26:03,080 --> 02:26:05,240
Speaker 1: defense get them backed up, get the ball in the

2743
02:26:05,280 --> 02:26:08,120
Speaker 1: plus fifty, and then go get points. And I think

2744
02:26:08,320 --> 02:26:11,600
Speaker 1: he learned. You know, it's just another phase of complimentary

2745
02:26:11,600 --> 02:26:13,920
Speaker 1: in football. But you know, he did a lot of

2746
02:26:14,000 --> 02:26:17,600
Speaker 1: great things this year, and we don't have the success

2747
02:26:17,640 --> 02:26:20,320
Speaker 1: we had, not only as an offense but as a

2748
02:26:20,320 --> 02:26:25,120
Speaker 1: team without what number seventeen did well. Hard to argue

2749
02:26:25,120 --> 02:26:27,280
Speaker 1: with any of that, Steve, I mean, my goodness, but

2750
02:26:27,720 --> 02:26:31,199
Speaker 1: the one that I pulled out there was the fact

2751
02:26:31,200 --> 02:26:37,119
Speaker 1: that he was more disciplined in his decision making. Yeah,

2752
02:26:37,200 --> 02:26:39,879
Speaker 1: he did make better decisions, and he made more consistently

2753
02:26:39,920 --> 02:26:43,160
Speaker 1: good decisions, and he made him against all kinds of

2754
02:26:43,160 --> 02:26:46,840
Speaker 1: different defensive looks. And he also the thing I noticed

2755
02:26:46,840 --> 02:26:49,120
Speaker 1: as well as anything, Brownie, and you can talk about

2756
02:26:49,120 --> 02:26:52,280
Speaker 1: this too, because everybody sees it. The guys calling the

2757
02:26:52,320 --> 02:26:55,240
Speaker 1: play and working the snap count and moving people around

2758
02:26:55,440 --> 02:26:57,880
Speaker 1: and changing the play and changing it back to the play.

2759
02:26:57,920 --> 02:27:01,480
Speaker 1: He's playing quarterback, you know, he's not just an athlete

2760
02:27:01,480 --> 02:27:03,600
Speaker 1: back there taking snaps and trying to make something happen.

2761
02:27:04,320 --> 02:27:08,440
Speaker 1: He's working the offense into getting it into the best

2762
02:27:08,560 --> 02:27:11,840
Speaker 1: possible play he can pre snap. And I thought that

2763
02:27:11,959 --> 02:27:15,560
Speaker 1: was a big step forward. It it looked like his offense,

2764
02:27:15,640 --> 02:27:18,880
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And the decision making also

2765
02:27:19,160 --> 02:27:21,520
Speaker 1: was hand in hand with that. When when he's calling

2766
02:27:21,560 --> 02:27:24,680
Speaker 1: those plays, he's calling plays he likes and he's expecting

2767
02:27:24,760 --> 02:27:28,000
Speaker 1: something and that really helped his decision making as well.

2768
02:27:28,040 --> 02:27:31,680
Speaker 1: And we had said early on that part of his

2769
02:27:32,200 --> 02:27:36,520
Speaker 1: inconsistency and completion percentage was because of the decision making

2770
02:27:36,560 --> 02:27:38,200
Speaker 1: that he had. He would choose to try and make

2771
02:27:38,200 --> 02:27:41,320
Speaker 1: a tough throw. I thought the Chiefs did a good

2772
02:27:41,400 --> 02:27:46,039
Speaker 1: job this last Sunday of not giving him the easy outlets,

2773
02:27:46,120 --> 02:27:48,280
Speaker 1: making him make almost impossible throws. And they were covering

2774
02:27:48,320 --> 02:27:50,440
Speaker 1: him up pretty good in the secondary, and they were

2775
02:27:50,560 --> 02:27:53,880
Speaker 1: weren't given Josh very many windows to throw into. And

2776
02:27:53,920 --> 02:27:56,400
Speaker 1: it kind of kind of went back to where he

2777
02:27:56,440 --> 02:27:58,600
Speaker 1: was having to make great throws to get any kind

2778
02:27:58,600 --> 02:28:03,000
Speaker 1: of completion at all, and that's kind of where he's

2779
02:28:03,080 --> 02:28:06,119
Speaker 1: worked his way out of. I think the decision making

2780
02:28:06,200 --> 02:28:08,680
Speaker 1: is better and his completion percentage went up as a

2781
02:28:08,720 --> 02:28:11,720
Speaker 1: result of it. His arms never been inaccurate, kind of

2782
02:28:11,720 --> 02:28:16,480
Speaker 1: scatter arm, but his decision making was asking his arm

2783
02:28:16,560 --> 02:28:21,400
Speaker 1: to make throws that were virtually impossible up until this year. Yeah. Yeah,

2784
02:28:21,480 --> 02:28:24,040
Speaker 1: And there were games where you just felt like he

2785
02:28:24,120 --> 02:28:28,039
Speaker 1: had total command from soup to nuts of the operation.

2786
02:28:28,200 --> 02:28:30,000
Speaker 1: Like whether you're talking about some of what you were

2787
02:28:30,040 --> 02:28:35,120
Speaker 1: talking about, hard count, drawn people off sides, changing his cadence, RPOs,

2788
02:28:35,600 --> 02:28:37,480
Speaker 1: making the right decision to get him in a better

2789
02:28:37,520 --> 02:28:41,000
Speaker 1: play and out of a bad play. There were games

2790
02:28:41,040 --> 02:28:44,200
Speaker 1: where he just had it all buttoned up and put together.

2791
02:28:44,240 --> 02:28:47,720
Speaker 1: Whether it was the Seattle game, the San Francisco game,

2792
02:28:48,080 --> 02:28:51,039
Speaker 1: the Denver game, these are games that come to mind

2793
02:28:51,080 --> 02:28:54,879
Speaker 1: where you're like, this guy can do it all. Now.

2794
02:28:54,920 --> 02:28:57,840
Speaker 1: When he did get to the playoffs, that efficiency not

2795
02:28:57,879 --> 02:28:59,840
Speaker 1: only for him but for the offense as a whole

2796
02:29:00,440 --> 02:29:04,280
Speaker 1: took a hit. And you expect it to some degree

2797
02:29:04,480 --> 02:29:06,520
Speaker 1: when you get to the playoffs, just by virtue of

2798
02:29:06,520 --> 02:29:09,200
Speaker 1: the caliber of teams that you are facing. But to

2799
02:29:09,240 --> 02:29:14,080
Speaker 1: see the eight almost nine point drop in point scoring

2800
02:29:14,800 --> 02:29:17,680
Speaker 1: from that offense, the struggles they had on third down

2801
02:29:17,720 --> 02:29:22,160
Speaker 1: in the playoffs throughout, not just this past Sunday. There's

2802
02:29:22,240 --> 02:29:26,560
Speaker 1: something there that that you know, the trained die, I

2803
02:29:26,600 --> 02:29:30,640
Speaker 1: hope will be able to identify in the whole scope

2804
02:29:30,640 --> 02:29:33,240
Speaker 1: of the offense, not just Josh. We'll be able to

2805
02:29:33,280 --> 02:29:36,360
Speaker 1: identify so that they can course correct that when they

2806
02:29:36,400 --> 02:29:41,199
Speaker 1: get into those tighter, more competitive games that we saw

2807
02:29:41,600 --> 02:29:44,280
Speaker 1: in the postseason this year. I hope they can identify

2808
02:29:44,360 --> 02:29:46,200
Speaker 1: what it is, because I know the untrained die for

2809
02:29:46,320 --> 02:29:49,480
Speaker 1: me cannot. Maybe you saw that I could not identify.

2810
02:29:49,520 --> 02:29:51,600
Speaker 1: You almost hope it's Josh's fault, right, so they can

2811
02:29:51,720 --> 02:29:53,800
Speaker 1: fix it that easily, right. You hope it's not you

2812
02:29:53,879 --> 02:29:57,000
Speaker 1: need better offensive lineman, or you need a better plan

2813
02:29:57,160 --> 02:29:59,560
Speaker 1: going in, or you need you know better you know

2814
02:29:59,560 --> 02:30:03,680
Speaker 1: something else, or you hope that it is something as

2815
02:30:03,720 --> 02:30:05,800
Speaker 1: simple as saying, you listen when they do this, you

2816
02:30:05,879 --> 02:30:09,200
Speaker 1: do that kind of thing. That's easy enough to fix

2817
02:30:09,280 --> 02:30:12,879
Speaker 1: for a coaching staff. But you know, for a couple

2818
02:30:12,879 --> 02:30:14,760
Speaker 1: of teams in a road to have the success they

2819
02:30:14,760 --> 02:30:17,480
Speaker 1: did defensively against the Bills, given what the Bills did

2820
02:30:17,480 --> 02:30:19,720
Speaker 1: at the end of the season. It kind of speaks

2821
02:30:19,760 --> 02:30:24,680
Speaker 1: to me, is it's not just Josh, you know, So

2822
02:30:24,959 --> 02:30:26,720
Speaker 1: if that's the case, then you know they got to

2823
02:30:26,760 --> 02:30:31,119
Speaker 1: fix that as well. Yeah, because it's almost like, well, look,

2824
02:30:32,000 --> 02:30:35,600
Speaker 1: Josh made the advances in his game to lift the

2825
02:30:35,640 --> 02:30:38,320
Speaker 1: competition level of this team. Now we have to find

2826
02:30:38,400 --> 02:30:41,320
Speaker 1: other ways to lift the collective level of play, right,

2827
02:30:41,400 --> 02:30:44,640
Speaker 1: because there's only so much that Josh can do. And

2828
02:30:44,720 --> 02:30:48,400
Speaker 1: so with that in mind, here is Brandon Being commenting

2829
02:30:48,800 --> 02:30:52,680
Speaker 1: on building off of the success the team enjoyed this year.

2830
02:30:53,720 --> 02:30:55,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I still think we have to be very

2831
02:30:55,600 --> 02:30:59,120
Speaker 1: honest with where we're at. We're still not a super

2832
02:30:59,120 --> 02:31:02,280
Speaker 1: Bowl team, and you know, there's one team happy Vic

2833
02:31:02,320 --> 02:31:04,720
Speaker 1: at the end of the year. And although we made

2834
02:31:04,720 --> 02:31:07,840
Speaker 1: a great you know step last year and nineteen from

2835
02:31:07,840 --> 02:31:11,480
Speaker 1: eighteen and another step this year, we still have to

2836
02:31:11,520 --> 02:31:14,959
Speaker 1: go further. The goal here is to win that thing,

2837
02:31:15,080 --> 02:31:17,640
Speaker 1: and until we get in that game to compete for it,

2838
02:31:17,640 --> 02:31:20,680
Speaker 1: we can't win it. And so it wasn't good enough

2839
02:31:20,959 --> 02:31:24,000
Speaker 1: this year, and so we've got to be very honest

2840
02:31:24,080 --> 02:31:27,400
Speaker 1: with what did we do well and where are there

2841
02:31:27,400 --> 02:31:30,320
Speaker 1: some holes? And and that's at the end of the day,

2842
02:31:30,400 --> 02:31:32,720
Speaker 1: and then how do we fix that. Is there anything

2843
02:31:32,920 --> 02:31:36,000
Speaker 1: personnel wise we can do? Probably so? And is there

2844
02:31:36,040 --> 02:31:39,520
Speaker 1: anything schematic? Do we need to adjust some things to do?

2845
02:31:39,600 --> 02:31:43,240
Speaker 1: We need to do this, whether it's the protection or

2846
02:31:43,280 --> 02:31:47,080
Speaker 1: the run game, or the pass rush or cover skill.

2847
02:31:47,160 --> 02:31:49,520
Speaker 1: You know, you just have to be very honest where

2848
02:31:49,560 --> 02:31:53,200
Speaker 1: there's certain defenses that gave our offense trouble. Were there

2849
02:31:53,320 --> 02:31:57,480
Speaker 1: certain offenses that gave our defense trugble. Did we struggle

2850
02:31:57,560 --> 02:31:59,400
Speaker 1: more against the run than we did the past? You

2851
02:31:59,400 --> 02:32:01,920
Speaker 1: know what I mean? We gotta be real honest. We

2852
02:32:02,000 --> 02:32:05,360
Speaker 1: got we gotta open it up. And that's why we're

2853
02:32:05,360 --> 02:32:07,920
Speaker 1: gonna try and debrief here for the week and then

2854
02:32:07,959 --> 02:32:10,959
Speaker 1: take a step back. Sometimes it's too close, it's too

2855
02:32:10,959 --> 02:32:14,240
Speaker 1: fresh right now, and then we'll continue to look at

2856
02:32:14,240 --> 02:32:17,279
Speaker 1: it as the weeks and months come and be honest

2857
02:32:17,280 --> 02:32:23,000
Speaker 1: through this whole spring before these players get back. Yeah,

2858
02:32:23,040 --> 02:32:27,080
Speaker 1: so some assessments to be done down the line here too,

2859
02:32:27,200 --> 02:32:29,240
Speaker 1: which I think is a healthy thing to do too,

2860
02:32:29,280 --> 02:32:32,199
Speaker 1: because you're so immersed in it for so long, Steve,

2861
02:32:32,800 --> 02:32:35,560
Speaker 1: and then sometimes you can't see the forest for the trees,

2862
02:32:35,640 --> 02:32:37,720
Speaker 1: and you do have to kind of take more of

2863
02:32:37,720 --> 02:32:40,600
Speaker 1: a bird's eye view sometimes from a distance. It gives

2864
02:32:40,600 --> 02:32:43,800
Speaker 1: you a chance to with no game coming up in

2865
02:32:43,879 --> 02:32:47,440
Speaker 1: four days or whatever, to sit back and assess what

2866
02:32:47,480 --> 02:32:52,560
Speaker 1: teams had success and why why did Team A use

2867
02:32:52,680 --> 02:32:55,680
Speaker 1: this game plan against you this week? What did they

2868
02:32:55,760 --> 02:32:57,680
Speaker 1: see that gave them the thought that that was going

2869
02:32:57,720 --> 02:33:00,280
Speaker 1: to give them the best chance to win? And and

2870
02:33:00,520 --> 02:33:02,320
Speaker 1: how did we handle it? Did we handle it good

2871
02:33:02,400 --> 02:33:04,040
Speaker 1: or did we handle it bad? And if they did

2872
02:33:04,040 --> 02:33:06,720
Speaker 1: that and they had and we handled it, how did

2873
02:33:06,720 --> 02:33:08,920
Speaker 1: it affect the next team on our schedule in their

2874
02:33:08,959 --> 02:33:11,440
Speaker 1: game plan? What did they see in us? And all

2875
02:33:11,480 --> 02:33:14,280
Speaker 1: that they get into the minutia of the entire thing

2876
02:33:14,280 --> 02:33:17,360
Speaker 1: and twy quantify it as to and to formulate a

2877
02:33:17,400 --> 02:33:21,360
Speaker 1: plan forward. Uh, they've got to fix what teams see

2878
02:33:21,400 --> 02:33:24,680
Speaker 1: their weaknesses to be and UH and work on them

2879
02:33:24,760 --> 02:33:29,320
Speaker 1: and do it with personnel, with coaching and with player development. Um,

2880
02:33:29,640 --> 02:33:32,120
Speaker 1: it's it's all in there. So they spend a lot

2881
02:33:32,160 --> 02:33:33,840
Speaker 1: of time doing that, and that they do it to

2882
02:33:33,840 --> 02:33:36,840
Speaker 1: a certain extent every week during the season, but they

2883
02:33:36,879 --> 02:33:39,440
Speaker 1: can't get to the point where they're where they'd like

2884
02:33:39,560 --> 02:33:41,840
Speaker 1: to be the way we're talking about now in the

2885
02:33:41,879 --> 02:33:46,119
Speaker 1: off season. So building off that comment, by Brandon being

2886
02:33:46,280 --> 02:33:48,880
Speaker 1: here was his follow up when he was asked specifically

2887
02:33:49,800 --> 02:33:56,119
Speaker 1: where the team can improve offensively and defensively. Your last game,

2888
02:33:56,320 --> 02:33:59,560
Speaker 1: if you if you make the playoffs, are in some

2889
02:34:00,000 --> 02:34:02,920
Speaker 1: crazy happening with some wild turnovers or something generally will

2890
02:34:02,959 --> 02:34:05,560
Speaker 1: tell you where you're short, you know, if you don't

2891
02:34:05,560 --> 02:34:08,119
Speaker 1: win at all. And and I think, you know, maybe

2892
02:34:08,160 --> 02:34:11,000
Speaker 1: a little bit more balance of the run game. And

2893
02:34:11,040 --> 02:34:13,000
Speaker 1: I'm not talking when I say balance, I'm not saying

2894
02:34:13,080 --> 02:34:15,760
Speaker 1: run it twenty times, throw it twenty times. I'm just

2895
02:34:15,800 --> 02:34:19,039
Speaker 1: saying the ability to run it when you have to.

2896
02:34:20,040 --> 02:34:22,880
Speaker 1: Maybe they've got great pass rushers a team you're playing,

2897
02:34:23,240 --> 02:34:25,640
Speaker 1: and you want to slow them down, so you run

2898
02:34:25,680 --> 02:34:28,640
Speaker 1: it or you screen them or whatever. So just some

2899
02:34:28,680 --> 02:34:32,360
Speaker 1: things like that that will help our offense. And because

2900
02:34:32,400 --> 02:34:35,080
Speaker 1: you're you're not always going to be able to, you know,

2901
02:34:35,360 --> 02:34:38,480
Speaker 1: track meet everybody up and down the field. Weather can

2902
02:34:38,480 --> 02:34:40,120
Speaker 1: play an element, you know, even a head to that

2903
02:34:40,200 --> 02:34:43,120
Speaker 1: Baltimore game, the weather was looking a little bit iffy.

2904
02:34:43,160 --> 02:34:46,039
Speaker 1: Obviously it was still the wind, but if you add

2905
02:34:46,080 --> 02:34:50,080
Speaker 1: snow rain to that, it would not be conducive to passing.

2906
02:34:50,120 --> 02:34:52,119
Speaker 1: So we've got to make sure that that we can

2907
02:34:52,200 --> 02:34:54,120
Speaker 1: handle any of the elements if we want to host

2908
02:34:54,160 --> 02:34:56,640
Speaker 1: games you know here in January, and then you know,

2909
02:34:56,680 --> 02:34:59,040
Speaker 1: a defense. We have a lot of changes on the

2910
02:34:59,120 --> 02:35:03,080
Speaker 1: d line last year year, including the coaching staff, you know,

2911
02:35:03,080 --> 02:35:05,160
Speaker 1: with Eric Washington and jockson sir, and I thought they

2912
02:35:05,200 --> 02:35:07,879
Speaker 1: did a really good job of figuring out this group

2913
02:35:08,160 --> 02:35:10,840
Speaker 1: and getting them going. It was a slow start, but

2914
02:35:10,879 --> 02:35:12,840
Speaker 1: I thought the second half the year they really started

2915
02:35:12,840 --> 02:35:16,600
Speaker 1: affecting the quarterback and affecting the whole defensive to a

2916
02:35:16,640 --> 02:35:21,160
Speaker 1: positive nature. But you know, our run defense wasn't always

2917
02:35:21,200 --> 02:35:23,080
Speaker 1: the greatest. I think we lost a little bit of

2918
02:35:23,160 --> 02:35:25,680
Speaker 1: beef inside. You know, we lost Jordan the free agency

2919
02:35:25,720 --> 02:35:29,280
Speaker 1: and then but when that happened, we're thinking Stars coming back,

2920
02:35:29,720 --> 02:35:32,920
Speaker 1: and then Star opted out, and I think we all saw,

2921
02:35:33,440 --> 02:35:36,840
Speaker 1: you know, I know he's not a tensack guy and

2922
02:35:36,959 --> 02:35:40,040
Speaker 1: things like that, but what he provides not only the

2923
02:35:40,520 --> 02:35:43,240
Speaker 1: run game, but just the ability for our linebackers to

2924
02:35:43,400 --> 02:35:46,040
Speaker 1: roam free. I think took those time, those guys a

2925
02:35:46,040 --> 02:35:49,280
Speaker 1: little time. So again, those are the things that we

2926
02:35:49,320 --> 02:35:51,800
Speaker 1: got to look at affecting the quarterback. How we do that,

2927
02:35:51,879 --> 02:35:55,320
Speaker 1: whether it's the past defense or the pass rush, those

2928
02:35:55,320 --> 02:35:57,560
Speaker 1: are things that we probably didn't do enough the other

2929
02:35:57,640 --> 02:36:03,480
Speaker 1: night against My Homes. So, Steve, I don't know how

2930
02:36:03,520 --> 02:36:06,800
Speaker 1: this grabs you, but when you hear that and you,

2931
02:36:08,080 --> 02:36:10,600
Speaker 1: like we said earlier in the show, this isn't just

2932
02:36:10,680 --> 02:36:13,800
Speaker 1: a personnel thing. As Brandon Bean sees it here at

2933
02:36:13,800 --> 02:36:16,640
Speaker 1: First Blush at the very end of the season, he

2934
02:36:16,760 --> 02:36:22,600
Speaker 1: sees schematics playing into how they can improve, and obviously

2935
02:36:22,600 --> 02:36:24,959
Speaker 1: the personnel would be a trickle down effect of that,

2936
02:36:25,040 --> 02:36:27,400
Speaker 1: because there's certain schematics you're not going to play unless

2937
02:36:27,400 --> 02:36:29,160
Speaker 1: you have the right people. Yeah, I think so they

2938
02:36:29,240 --> 02:36:31,000
Speaker 1: kind of go hand, and they kind of go hand

2939
02:36:31,040 --> 02:36:33,760
Speaker 1: in hand. But I think it's interesting that this is

2940
02:36:33,760 --> 02:36:37,520
Speaker 1: not just a personnel equation. This is a multi layered equation. Well, yeah,

2941
02:36:37,560 --> 02:36:39,280
Speaker 1: and it's you can ask whether it's a chicken or

2942
02:36:39,320 --> 02:36:41,760
Speaker 1: the egg are they running? Do they are? They stand

2943
02:36:41,800 --> 02:36:43,520
Speaker 1: away from schemes because they don't have the people to

2944
02:36:43,560 --> 02:36:45,000
Speaker 1: run it or the size to run. And I think

2945
02:36:45,000 --> 02:36:46,400
Speaker 1: there's a little bit of that in there, and they're

2946
02:36:46,600 --> 02:36:49,440
Speaker 1: maybe limited on their schemes and their techniques because they

2947
02:36:49,440 --> 02:36:51,600
Speaker 1: don't have any big enough bodies to run those kind

2948
02:36:51,600 --> 02:36:53,879
Speaker 1: of schemes or those guys, you know, they just won't

2949
02:36:53,879 --> 02:36:55,800
Speaker 1: be able to perform it as well as a guy

2950
02:36:55,800 --> 02:36:58,720
Speaker 1: who's bigger and more physical. There's a little bit of

2951
02:36:58,760 --> 02:37:01,480
Speaker 1: the scheme baked in to that, and so I think

2952
02:37:01,520 --> 02:37:04,680
Speaker 1: that's where they're at as much as anything. They any

2953
02:37:04,720 --> 02:37:08,280
Speaker 1: good coaching staff, let's their players do what they do best.

2954
02:37:10,240 --> 02:37:14,840
Speaker 1: But also in every game plan tactically, you're trying to

2955
02:37:14,879 --> 02:37:18,120
Speaker 1: get your opponent to have to do things you have

2956
02:37:18,200 --> 02:37:21,680
Speaker 1: seen them not do well, and the Bills are victims

2957
02:37:21,680 --> 02:37:25,640
Speaker 1: of that as well. So you need bigger, stronger, more

2958
02:37:25,760 --> 02:37:28,640
Speaker 1: versatile players who can play a multitude of techniques and

2959
02:37:29,080 --> 02:37:32,200
Speaker 1: schemes so that when a team does a you still

2960
02:37:32,320 --> 02:37:35,880
Speaker 1: can go to B. I don't think the Bills could

2961
02:37:35,920 --> 02:37:41,200
Speaker 1: go to that secondary you know, technique or scheme because

2962
02:37:41,240 --> 02:37:43,000
Speaker 1: they just didn't have the people to run it for

2963
02:37:43,160 --> 02:37:45,440
Speaker 1: the size, right, they couldn't. They're going to go to

2964
02:37:45,480 --> 02:37:50,080
Speaker 1: BC or D you know. Like perfect example is, well,

2965
02:37:50,080 --> 02:37:52,080
Speaker 1: why didn't you play more press man and knock those

2966
02:37:52,080 --> 02:37:54,320
Speaker 1: guys off their routes. Well, maybe they didn't feel they had,

2967
02:37:55,040 --> 02:37:58,039
Speaker 1: you know, coverage players physical enough to do that successfully,

2968
02:37:58,160 --> 02:38:00,480
Speaker 1: or maybe they didn't feel they had a ass rush

2969
02:38:00,520 --> 02:38:02,600
Speaker 1: that could support us an approach like that. On the

2970
02:38:02,640 --> 02:38:07,360
Speaker 1: back end, you know, there's a myriad of reasons or

2971
02:38:07,480 --> 02:38:09,520
Speaker 1: variables that you can come up with as to why

2972
02:38:09,560 --> 02:38:13,680
Speaker 1: they didn't turn to other alternatives schematically, but more often

2973
02:38:13,720 --> 02:38:16,280
Speaker 1: than not, it's rooted in the personnel that you have

2974
02:38:16,480 --> 02:38:19,160
Speaker 1: or the personnel that you flat out don't have in

2975
02:38:19,240 --> 02:38:21,760
Speaker 1: terms of what you can and cannot do. So it's

2976
02:38:21,800 --> 02:38:26,400
Speaker 1: gonna be interesting how the skill set of the roster

2977
02:38:26,760 --> 02:38:30,600
Speaker 1: morphs and changes here in this offseason. The last comment

2978
02:38:30,640 --> 02:38:34,560
Speaker 1: we had from Brandon Being was on specifically the defensive

2979
02:38:34,600 --> 02:38:37,680
Speaker 1: line performance. We already heard him say how because of

2980
02:38:37,720 --> 02:38:40,160
Speaker 1: the opt out of Star and the free agent departure

2981
02:38:40,160 --> 02:38:42,879
Speaker 1: of Jordan Phillips, they were left a little light on

2982
02:38:42,920 --> 02:38:44,959
Speaker 1: that side of the ball. Here is a more in

2983
02:38:45,040 --> 02:38:48,560
Speaker 1: depth response from Brandon Being on the defensive lines performance

2984
02:38:48,640 --> 02:38:51,800
Speaker 1: this season. I don't think as a group they were

2985
02:38:51,840 --> 02:38:55,120
Speaker 1: in sync early. I think no preseason probably didn't help

2986
02:38:55,120 --> 02:38:58,560
Speaker 1: that group with all the changes including both coaches there.

2987
02:38:59,480 --> 02:39:02,040
Speaker 1: But I thought Eric did a great job of Anne

2988
02:39:02,120 --> 02:39:04,879
Speaker 1: Leslie Fraser too of figuring out what these guys do well.

2989
02:39:05,160 --> 02:39:08,360
Speaker 1: We were a little smaller upfront this year, as I

2990
02:39:08,360 --> 02:39:10,680
Speaker 1: said earlier, just the way it worked out, and so

2991
02:39:10,840 --> 02:39:13,760
Speaker 1: figuring out who could anchor in there who can provide

2992
02:39:13,760 --> 02:39:15,600
Speaker 1: pass rush. You know, we don't want to get run

2993
02:39:15,600 --> 02:39:17,080
Speaker 1: on all day, but we also got to get some

2994
02:39:17,080 --> 02:39:19,920
Speaker 1: guys in there to affect the quarterback. Again, I thought

2995
02:39:19,920 --> 02:39:22,240
Speaker 1: the second half of the year, those guys played really well,

2996
02:39:22,520 --> 02:39:25,600
Speaker 1: and that's, you know, how we use this defense. We

2997
02:39:25,640 --> 02:39:27,920
Speaker 1: feel like it starts up front, and we've got to

2998
02:39:27,959 --> 02:39:30,600
Speaker 1: be good there before we can worry about the back end.

2999
02:39:31,800 --> 02:39:33,360
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, we were probably still

3000
02:39:33,360 --> 02:39:36,240
Speaker 1: a little like you know, for my comfort level, and

3001
02:39:36,280 --> 02:39:38,280
Speaker 1: I think we really had to focus on stopping that

3002
02:39:38,360 --> 02:39:42,160
Speaker 1: run and maybe that affected some other areas, whether it

3003
02:39:42,200 --> 02:39:44,920
Speaker 1: was getting to the passer or just defending the pass

3004
02:39:45,120 --> 02:39:50,600
Speaker 1: in the back end. Yeah, so I think pass rush

3005
02:39:50,680 --> 02:39:52,840
Speaker 1: is definitely going to be a part of the to

3006
02:39:52,920 --> 02:39:57,160
Speaker 1: do list this offseason. Now what way they feel is

3007
02:39:57,240 --> 02:40:01,959
Speaker 1: best to solve that issue, we'll have to wait and see.

3008
02:40:02,080 --> 02:40:06,000
Speaker 1: But I said they're a little light, Steve. But also

3009
02:40:06,840 --> 02:40:09,959
Speaker 1: I think, you know that the base philosophy of this

3010
02:40:10,000 --> 02:40:13,400
Speaker 1: defensive system is to get pressure with your front four,

3011
02:40:13,920 --> 02:40:17,320
Speaker 1: and that did not happen this season with any level

3012
02:40:17,360 --> 02:40:20,880
Speaker 1: of consistency at all. They could not get their rushing

3013
02:40:20,920 --> 02:40:23,920
Speaker 1: four right. And they also struggled to stop the run.

3014
02:40:23,959 --> 02:40:25,360
Speaker 1: I think early on some of it had to do

3015
02:40:25,360 --> 02:40:28,240
Speaker 1: with gap integrity and guys playing in a new system

3016
02:40:28,280 --> 02:40:29,880
Speaker 1: and it took him a while to get the field

3017
02:40:29,879 --> 02:40:31,640
Speaker 1: for it. But you also felt like they couldn't hold

3018
02:40:31,640 --> 02:40:34,000
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage at times. And that's the same thing.

3019
02:40:34,040 --> 02:40:36,760
Speaker 1: And of course every team would love to get quick

3020
02:40:36,800 --> 02:40:41,680
Speaker 1: pressure on the quarterback rushing just four and everybody understands.

3021
02:40:41,720 --> 02:40:43,200
Speaker 1: You know, sometimes you're not going to be able to

3022
02:40:43,200 --> 02:40:45,720
Speaker 1: do it, but you need to be able to do

3023
02:40:45,720 --> 02:40:47,640
Speaker 1: it once in a while. And the Bills you couldn't

3024
02:40:47,640 --> 02:40:50,840
Speaker 1: get it done enough to make I think general manager

3025
02:40:50,840 --> 02:40:54,280
Speaker 1: Brandon being happy or content with how much they've got.

3026
02:40:54,440 --> 02:40:56,000
Speaker 1: I think he's right there. I think they were light

3027
02:40:56,080 --> 02:41:01,640
Speaker 1: on the defensive line, justin zimmer ed Oliver. They're two

3028
02:41:01,680 --> 02:41:06,120
Speaker 1: undersized defensive tackle. They're high motor, explosive, slashing type of guys.

3029
02:41:06,160 --> 02:41:08,560
Speaker 1: They're not hold the point of attack soak up a

3030
02:41:08,600 --> 02:41:11,720
Speaker 1: double team type of players, and you know you need

3031
02:41:11,760 --> 02:41:15,640
Speaker 1: to be those when sometimes and for good well sometimes

3032
02:41:15,640 --> 02:41:18,720
Speaker 1: when the offense want says you need to be and

3033
02:41:18,800 --> 02:41:20,879
Speaker 1: if you're not, the offense is going to ask you

3034
02:41:20,879 --> 02:41:23,920
Speaker 1: to do that. An awful lot right and there, And

3035
02:41:24,560 --> 02:41:26,720
Speaker 1: just to be clear, there is a place and a

3036
02:41:26,800 --> 02:41:30,120
Speaker 1: role for players like that. But if you have more

3037
02:41:30,160 --> 02:41:33,240
Speaker 1: of them, then you do the space eaters. You're gonna

3038
02:41:33,280 --> 02:41:36,160
Speaker 1: come up short on the defensive side of the line

3039
02:41:36,160 --> 02:41:39,040
Speaker 1: of scrimmage all too often, and you're going to be

3040
02:41:39,080 --> 02:41:42,800
Speaker 1: inviting opponents to test you and try to blow you

3041
02:41:42,879 --> 02:41:45,320
Speaker 1: off the line and run the football. And we saw

3042
02:41:45,360 --> 02:41:49,200
Speaker 1: examples of that at times this past season. So hopefully

3043
02:41:49,280 --> 02:41:52,800
Speaker 1: with Star back in the fold, and then maybe if

3044
02:41:53,720 --> 02:41:57,560
Speaker 1: you know they get big people in the draft, you

3045
02:41:57,600 --> 02:41:59,640
Speaker 1: know you can address that. I was watching a couple

3046
02:41:59,640 --> 02:42:02,240
Speaker 1: of the scene your bull kids the other day on

3047
02:42:02,360 --> 02:42:05,240
Speaker 1: NFL Network, Steve and Practice. I think the kid's name

3048
02:42:05,320 --> 02:42:07,720
Speaker 1: is Marvin Wilson. He's a defensive tackle. He is just

3049
02:42:07,959 --> 02:42:11,360
Speaker 1: knocking people back. I mean they just they look like

3050
02:42:11,440 --> 02:42:15,200
Speaker 1: mannequins out there. He's just standing them up and walking them.

3051
02:42:15,200 --> 02:42:17,240
Speaker 1: Pretty impressive. And I know one on ones is not

3052
02:42:17,280 --> 02:42:20,840
Speaker 1: real football, but still in all, some guys were catching

3053
02:42:20,840 --> 02:42:24,760
Speaker 1: my eye yesterday down in Mobile. Yeah, well that's where

3054
02:42:24,800 --> 02:42:26,520
Speaker 1: it starts. You get a look at the guy you

3055
02:42:26,920 --> 02:42:28,920
Speaker 1: look at, they measure him, they see how high they

3056
02:42:28,959 --> 02:42:31,080
Speaker 1: and they watch him practice and we saw that when

3057
02:42:31,200 --> 02:42:33,200
Speaker 1: Ed Oliver came out. Sean McDermot will go down to

3058
02:42:33,360 --> 02:42:35,320
Speaker 1: his pro day, their pro days, and he'll stand right

3059
02:42:35,360 --> 02:42:38,760
Speaker 1: in the middle of that drill, like almost getting the way.

3060
02:42:39,560 --> 02:42:42,000
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott ran the drill, didn't he No, he he

3061
02:42:42,040 --> 02:42:43,920
Speaker 1: almost got in the way. He almost got hit a drill.

3062
02:42:43,959 --> 02:42:46,920
Speaker 1: That's what it was. They love watching these guys practice,

3063
02:42:46,959 --> 02:42:48,400
Speaker 1: and that's when they get an idea of who can

3064
02:42:48,440 --> 02:42:50,800
Speaker 1: play and who cannot play. And they all have their

3065
02:42:50,800 --> 02:42:54,400
Speaker 1: own way of evaluating him. So it's yeah, you can

3066
02:42:54,440 --> 02:42:57,640
Speaker 1: bet that's gonna be job one. I think one of

3067
02:42:57,680 --> 02:42:59,840
Speaker 1: the first things they do is look to get bigger

3068
02:42:59,840 --> 02:43:01,959
Speaker 1: and were physical upfront on both sides of the ball,

3069
02:43:02,040 --> 02:43:05,080
Speaker 1: or at least stay there, stay big and physical on

3070
02:43:05,120 --> 02:43:07,840
Speaker 1: both sides of the ball. All right, break time for

3071
02:43:07,959 --> 02:43:10,040
Speaker 1: us when we come back. More of your comments on

3072
02:43:10,080 --> 02:43:12,920
Speaker 1: the tweet sheet as we're asking you for what you

3073
02:43:12,959 --> 02:43:16,840
Speaker 1: feel is the top offseason move for Bill general manager

3074
02:43:16,879 --> 02:43:19,720
Speaker 1: Brandon being this offseason. Steve and I back in the

3075
02:43:19,760 --> 02:43:21,520
Speaker 1: ball here on One Bill's Life. He's gonna like a

3076
02:43:21,520 --> 02:43:39,000
Speaker 1: lot of help and suck a little Bills Bread. Welcome

3077
02:43:39,040 --> 02:43:41,240
Speaker 1: back to One Bills Live. Christ Out Steve task your

3078
02:43:41,240 --> 02:43:44,080
Speaker 1: final half hour of the show, and we wanted to

3079
02:43:44,120 --> 02:43:46,240
Speaker 1: get back to the tweet sheet to get some of

3080
02:43:46,280 --> 02:43:50,360
Speaker 1: your comments on what you feel should come to pass

3081
02:43:50,440 --> 02:43:52,879
Speaker 1: this offseason and what might be the most important move

3082
02:43:52,959 --> 02:43:56,360
Speaker 1: for Brandon Bean as the Bills navigate the twenty twenty

3083
02:43:56,360 --> 02:44:00,400
Speaker 1: one offseason. Here in preparations for the twenty twenty one campaign,

3084
02:44:00,879 --> 02:44:05,879
Speaker 1: and I believe we were up to Eli on the

3085
02:44:05,879 --> 02:44:11,720
Speaker 1: tweet sheet who says, extend Alan now. Capit will go lower,

3086
02:44:11,840 --> 02:44:14,360
Speaker 1: but it should start to go up again. First few

3087
02:44:14,440 --> 02:44:17,520
Speaker 1: years the contract might be expensive, but at the end

3088
02:44:17,879 --> 02:44:20,200
Speaker 1: end of the extension it should become cheaper as the

3089
02:44:20,280 --> 02:44:24,320
Speaker 1: cap keeps going up. Well, I understand the logic there, Steve.

3090
02:44:25,320 --> 02:44:27,080
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to be pretty creative to fit this

3091
02:44:27,160 --> 02:44:29,560
Speaker 1: in under this current cap. If it doesn't move much

3092
02:44:29,560 --> 02:44:33,000
Speaker 1: above one seventy five. Yeah, they're not no, right, Yeah,

3093
02:44:33,000 --> 02:44:36,600
Speaker 1: I get what Eli's saying, but this is not the

3094
02:44:36,680 --> 02:44:41,080
Speaker 1: year to do it. You got to push it off

3095
02:44:41,080 --> 02:44:43,120
Speaker 1: as long as you can until the stap cap starts

3096
02:44:43,120 --> 02:44:46,120
Speaker 1: to come back. You've got two full seasons left on

3097
02:44:46,200 --> 02:44:48,120
Speaker 1: his deal before you have to have a deal done,

3098
02:44:48,560 --> 02:44:50,640
Speaker 1: and that's plenty of time you can start thinking about

3099
02:44:50,680 --> 02:44:52,400
Speaker 1: the structure of it and what you want to look like,

3100
02:44:52,520 --> 02:44:54,760
Speaker 1: have conversations about it, but I wouldn't put it into

3101
02:44:54,760 --> 02:44:58,640
Speaker 1: force until well after twenty twenties in the rearview mirror,

3102
02:44:59,200 --> 02:45:01,879
Speaker 1: maybe even twenty twenty one, maybe midway through next year,

3103
02:45:01,920 --> 02:45:03,800
Speaker 1: when he get a handle on how the CAP's gonna

3104
02:45:03,840 --> 02:45:08,320
Speaker 1: move from that point on. But I think I think

3105
02:45:08,520 --> 02:45:11,959
Speaker 1: now is definitely absolutely not the time to extend Allen

3106
02:45:12,920 --> 02:45:17,160
Speaker 1: because it's too kind n't really important a deal. Yeah.

3107
02:45:17,280 --> 02:45:21,000
Speaker 1: One interesting thing that Brandon Bean did say about Josh

3108
02:45:21,000 --> 02:45:23,920
Speaker 1: Allen today because he was asked specifically about an extension

3109
02:45:23,920 --> 02:45:26,959
Speaker 1: for him, and Brandon dismissed that out of hand, saying

3110
02:45:26,959 --> 02:45:29,720
Speaker 1: he's not going to talk about it publicly. But he

3111
02:45:29,840 --> 02:45:33,400
Speaker 1: also in talking about Josh, he said, you know, he's

3112
02:45:33,440 --> 02:45:37,279
Speaker 1: proud of Josh once again. He led his own exit meeting. Basically,

3113
02:45:37,400 --> 02:45:39,279
Speaker 1: he had a list of things he wanted to improve

3114
02:45:39,320 --> 02:45:41,960
Speaker 1: on through the course of this offseason so he's better

3115
02:45:42,000 --> 02:45:45,280
Speaker 1: when he comes back in the year four. And then

3116
02:45:45,320 --> 02:45:48,200
Speaker 1: Brandon said this Steve he goes, Josh has to get

3117
02:45:48,200 --> 02:45:52,760
Speaker 1: away and power down. He does believe there's more ceiling

3118
02:45:52,800 --> 02:45:54,880
Speaker 1: to his game. But I thought that was an interesting comment.

3119
02:45:55,200 --> 02:45:58,760
Speaker 1: Josh needs to power down. I think even Brandon, even

3120
02:45:58,760 --> 02:46:02,680
Speaker 1: though he's not in the day to day dealings with

3121
02:46:02,800 --> 02:46:05,600
Speaker 1: Josh the way the coaching staff is, I think he

3122
02:46:05,720 --> 02:46:11,199
Speaker 1: recognized just how much Josh shouldered for not only the offense,

3123
02:46:11,240 --> 02:46:15,600
Speaker 1: but for the team at large this season. And I

3124
02:46:15,640 --> 02:46:19,959
Speaker 1: think he knows this guy needs a break. Oh yeah,

3125
02:46:19,959 --> 02:46:22,000
Speaker 1: And I think Josh will be smart enough to know

3126
02:46:22,080 --> 02:46:23,560
Speaker 1: that as well. He's got to go over, you know.

3127
02:46:23,600 --> 02:46:26,920
Speaker 1: I mean I remember, well after a couple of seasons,

3128
02:46:26,959 --> 02:46:29,279
Speaker 1: not all of them, but there's one or two seasons

3129
02:46:29,280 --> 02:46:32,039
Speaker 1: where you just need to hit the beach for a

3130
02:46:32,080 --> 02:46:35,879
Speaker 1: week and not just do nothing but drink drinks with

3131
02:46:35,959 --> 02:46:38,800
Speaker 1: a umbrella in them. I mean, just you gotta get away,

3132
02:46:40,000 --> 02:46:42,200
Speaker 1: because think about what these guys have been through, getting

3133
02:46:42,240 --> 02:46:45,199
Speaker 1: COVID tested every day, not being able to see anybody socially,

3134
02:46:45,280 --> 02:46:47,600
Speaker 1: never not being able to hang out away from the facility,

3135
02:46:47,640 --> 02:46:49,039
Speaker 1: not being able to go out to dinner, not be

3136
02:46:49,080 --> 02:46:51,959
Speaker 1: able to enjoy any even the free time you have

3137
02:46:52,120 --> 02:46:57,200
Speaker 1: with your family, that's that's basically the only time you're

3138
02:46:57,240 --> 02:46:59,400
Speaker 1: free from anything. It's it's just your family. You don't

3139
02:46:59,400 --> 02:47:00,920
Speaker 1: get to see any buddy, don't get a sea, you

3140
02:47:00,959 --> 02:47:03,240
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And you're cooped up in your house.

3141
02:47:03,240 --> 02:47:05,640
Speaker 1: You're cooped up. Yeah, you can't go to movies, you

3142
02:47:05,680 --> 02:47:07,720
Speaker 1: can't go to dinner, you can't go out for a

3143
02:47:07,760 --> 02:47:09,640
Speaker 1: beer with your buddies, you can't go out to a

3144
02:47:09,680 --> 02:47:12,600
Speaker 1: team dinner like the offensive line can't go to dinner,

3145
02:47:12,640 --> 02:47:15,880
Speaker 1: to restaurant, all that stuff. And it's been that way

3146
02:47:15,920 --> 02:47:19,120
Speaker 1: for six months. Yeah, you need to get away and

3147
02:47:19,160 --> 02:47:23,720
Speaker 1: go and just you know, get away, and so you can,

3148
02:47:23,840 --> 02:47:26,120
Speaker 1: you know, sit on the beach without a mask on. Right.

3149
02:47:26,200 --> 02:47:30,640
Speaker 1: So I think it's imperative for all these guys to

3150
02:47:30,720 --> 02:47:33,960
Speaker 1: take a big, deep emotional breath and just relax and

3151
02:47:34,040 --> 02:47:35,880
Speaker 1: let the stress drain away if they can get if

3152
02:47:35,920 --> 02:47:41,360
Speaker 1: they can do that, not just Josh Yeah. Right from

3153
02:47:41,440 --> 02:47:43,959
Speaker 1: Nick on the tweet sheet, he says being said in himself,

3154
02:47:44,080 --> 02:47:46,360
Speaker 1: we need to have a great draft. With the potential

3155
02:47:46,440 --> 02:47:48,440
Speaker 1: changes to the salary cap, we're at risk of being

3156
02:47:48,520 --> 02:47:51,000
Speaker 1: unable to afford some very talented players over the next

3157
02:47:51,000 --> 02:47:53,080
Speaker 1: couple of years. So we really need to make sure

3158
02:47:53,120 --> 02:47:56,880
Speaker 1: we stuck up on cheap rookies who can make an impact.

3159
02:47:56,920 --> 02:47:59,920
Speaker 1: And that's gonna be a taller task now. Steve Picking

3160
02:48:00,160 --> 02:48:05,320
Speaker 1: thirtieth overall. Yeah, yeah, it is. You're gonna be able

3161
02:48:05,320 --> 02:48:06,840
Speaker 1: to get what they'll probably just not. I can I

3162
02:48:06,840 --> 02:48:09,600
Speaker 1: can see it happening. Now. You're gonna draft your thirtieth

3163
02:48:09,600 --> 02:48:14,720
Speaker 1: pick overall in the NFL Draft, and most people will say, uh, yeah,

3164
02:48:14,720 --> 02:48:16,640
Speaker 1: they thought he was this guy whoever it is you're

3165
02:48:16,640 --> 02:48:19,200
Speaker 1: gonna get, They thought he would go much higher, you

3166
02:48:19,240 --> 02:48:21,240
Speaker 1: know what I mean. That's gonna be the positive spin

3167
02:48:21,360 --> 02:48:23,960
Speaker 1: people people put on it. I think it's going to

3168
02:48:24,040 --> 02:48:26,240
Speaker 1: be crucial as to what position he plays. What's the

3169
02:48:26,280 --> 02:48:28,039
Speaker 1: guy gonna look like. Is he gonna be a big

3170
02:48:28,080 --> 02:48:30,480
Speaker 1: guy or is he going to be an athlete? Um,

3171
02:48:30,600 --> 02:48:34,119
Speaker 1: I can bet right now the guy's gonna be three

3172
02:48:34,200 --> 02:48:38,080
Speaker 1: hundred plus on the scales. Yeah, and I'll sign up

3173
02:48:38,080 --> 02:48:40,359
Speaker 1: for that. Whether he's a DT, whether he's a defensive

3174
02:48:40,400 --> 02:48:43,320
Speaker 1: tackle or a guard or a tack or an offensive tackle,

3175
02:48:43,640 --> 02:48:46,520
Speaker 1: the guy's gonna three be three bills north of three

3176
02:48:46,520 --> 02:48:50,360
Speaker 1: bills by ways. Yeah, we do have a caller on

3177
02:48:50,400 --> 02:48:52,160
Speaker 1: the line, So let's get to him at eight oh

3178
02:48:52,200 --> 02:48:54,560
Speaker 1: three oh five fifty Frank and Williamsville. What do you

3179
02:48:54,680 --> 02:48:58,920
Speaker 1: have for us? You're on one Bill's Live? Yeah, is

3180
02:48:58,920 --> 02:49:02,040
Speaker 1: it too harsh to say that Singletary was benched because

3181
02:49:02,080 --> 02:49:06,160
Speaker 1: he dropped that ball. No, uh no, that's exactly why

3182
02:49:06,160 --> 02:49:08,720
Speaker 1: he got benched. Yeah, that's what we thought. I mean,

3183
02:49:08,720 --> 02:49:10,840
Speaker 1: that's what it looks like to us. And you know,

3184
02:49:10,879 --> 02:49:15,440
Speaker 1: while they'll say should have cost seven, only cost three

3185
02:49:15,879 --> 02:49:18,400
Speaker 1: and Romo designed to make certain that he really is

3186
02:49:18,440 --> 02:49:21,400
Speaker 1: a pointed um. The Chiefs made plays to give this

3187
02:49:21,440 --> 02:49:23,119
Speaker 1: guy to get him back into the game. Mooning him

3188
02:49:23,160 --> 02:49:25,400
Speaker 1: was a big run. Like do they have a problem

3189
02:49:25,400 --> 02:49:28,600
Speaker 1: with Singletary? No, I don't think they have a problem

3190
02:49:28,600 --> 02:49:30,959
Speaker 1: with Singletary. I think that's two coaches that do it differently.

3191
02:49:31,200 --> 02:49:32,920
Speaker 1: Would would you discipline the guy in the middle of

3192
02:49:32,920 --> 02:49:36,720
Speaker 1: the AFA Championship game? I think you do it because

3193
02:49:36,720 --> 02:49:38,400
Speaker 1: you want to be consistent with what you do all

3194
02:49:38,440 --> 02:49:40,360
Speaker 1: the time. And I get what you're saying. You're thinking

3195
02:49:40,400 --> 02:49:42,680
Speaker 1: it should have just swallowed and said, hey, fumbled the ball.

3196
02:49:42,680 --> 02:49:44,240
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter, We're gonna give it to him again.

3197
02:49:44,320 --> 02:49:46,760
Speaker 1: Forget it. What we've been doing all season. This is

3198
02:49:47,000 --> 02:49:50,520
Speaker 1: too important a game. And I think one counter to

3199
02:49:50,640 --> 02:49:52,520
Speaker 1: that is that if you've been doing it all season,

3200
02:49:52,560 --> 02:49:55,240
Speaker 1: why weren't those games important? OK? I get that, I

3201
02:49:55,280 --> 02:49:58,600
Speaker 1: get that. One that's a good it's a good contrast though,

3202
02:49:58,879 --> 02:50:02,520
Speaker 1: for sure, to contrast, I wonder, I wonder if if

3203
02:50:03,440 --> 02:50:06,560
Speaker 1: Josh wasn't given enough plays that we were creative and

3204
02:50:06,840 --> 02:50:08,440
Speaker 1: would have made things a little bit easier for him.

3205
02:50:08,520 --> 02:50:09,760
Speaker 1: So she down in the red zone like they did

3206
02:50:09,800 --> 02:50:13,840
Speaker 1: all year long. Tablehead and plays were invented and crazy

3207
02:50:13,840 --> 02:50:16,840
Speaker 1: and original, but the resulted in points. And I think

3208
02:50:16,840 --> 02:50:18,920
Speaker 1: that they were more conventional when they were down there,

3209
02:50:18,920 --> 02:50:21,800
Speaker 1: and that's why Alan had such a difficult time buying

3210
02:50:21,879 --> 02:50:27,560
Speaker 1: the people. Yeah, I mean that's always that's always what

3211
02:50:27,640 --> 02:50:30,200
Speaker 1: people say when they get down there and they don't score. Um,

3212
02:50:30,840 --> 02:50:32,959
Speaker 1: But I don't know that that's I don't Yeah, I

3213
02:50:32,959 --> 02:50:35,000
Speaker 1: don't know. I like to I like to touchdown to

3214
02:50:35,080 --> 02:50:37,920
Speaker 1: Dawson Knox. I like the Isaiah McKenzie touchdown was good.

3215
02:50:38,879 --> 02:50:41,959
Speaker 1: But you're right, whenever I'll say this, they didn't get

3216
02:50:42,040 --> 02:50:46,119
Speaker 1: enough in the red zone enough for me. Plus we're

3217
02:50:46,160 --> 02:50:48,800
Speaker 1: gonna forever be haunted by the fact that even now,

3218
02:50:48,800 --> 02:50:52,200
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott will wish and you always wish this in

3219
02:50:52,560 --> 02:50:54,320
Speaker 1: retrospect if you don't win the game. I wish he

3220
02:50:54,360 --> 02:50:56,120
Speaker 1: had gone for it on two fourth downs down in

3221
02:50:56,160 --> 02:50:59,120
Speaker 1: there and he said that himself one way for the draft.

3222
02:50:59,440 --> 02:51:07,040
Speaker 1: Yeah we need speed and Casey Yeah yeah, speed is

3223
02:51:07,440 --> 02:51:09,720
Speaker 1: one element that they certainly need to add. Frank, thanks

3224
02:51:09,760 --> 02:51:12,680
Speaker 1: for the call, and I will say that Steve and

3225
02:51:12,720 --> 02:51:15,360
Speaker 1: I are kind of of the opinion that size is

3226
02:51:15,400 --> 02:51:18,520
Speaker 1: something else that needs to be added also, particularly up

3227
02:51:18,520 --> 02:51:21,359
Speaker 1: front on both sides of the line of scrimmage. Bigger

3228
02:51:21,400 --> 02:51:24,920
Speaker 1: guys that on offense can help reset the line of

3229
02:51:24,920 --> 02:51:27,440
Speaker 1: scrimmage in the run game and on defense that can

3230
02:51:27,480 --> 02:51:31,680
Speaker 1: hold the line against opposing rushing attacks and get some

3231
02:51:31,760 --> 02:51:36,880
Speaker 1: push up the middle in the pocket. So you know, speed, yes, size, yes,

3232
02:51:38,080 --> 02:51:41,040
Speaker 1: probably all of the all of the above, and just

3233
02:51:41,160 --> 02:51:44,640
Speaker 1: real quick, Frank, I know you're concerned that maybe McDermott

3234
02:51:44,640 --> 02:51:48,680
Speaker 1: was singling out singletary. If you go back to the

3235
02:51:48,800 --> 02:51:52,400
Speaker 1: week ten game, wait was an I always get mixed up?

3236
02:51:52,480 --> 02:51:54,640
Speaker 1: Was an Arizona or San Francisco with San Francisco game

3237
02:51:55,760 --> 02:51:59,160
Speaker 1: the San Francisco Monday night games. Zach Moss fumbled the

3238
02:51:59,160 --> 02:52:01,680
Speaker 1: ball right, I thought it was Francis, might be right,

3239
02:52:01,760 --> 02:52:03,320
Speaker 1: one of those two. He fumbled it down on their

3240
02:52:03,360 --> 02:52:05,680
Speaker 1: own end. The game was played in Arizona, but yes,

3241
02:52:05,720 --> 02:52:07,840
Speaker 1: he fumbled deep in his own end and he got

3242
02:52:07,840 --> 02:52:11,840
Speaker 1: benched for the majority of the game. And so he's

3243
02:52:11,959 --> 02:52:14,720
Speaker 1: so coach McDermott has a quick hook, and we know

3244
02:52:14,879 --> 02:52:19,920
Speaker 1: that protecting the football is something that is not to

3245
02:52:19,959 --> 02:52:23,360
Speaker 1: be trifled with with with head coach Sean McDermott, because

3246
02:52:23,360 --> 02:52:27,760
Speaker 1: as soon as you have issues holding on to the ball,

3247
02:52:29,040 --> 02:52:31,879
Speaker 1: the hook is quick and he has demonstrated that on

3248
02:52:31,920 --> 02:52:34,120
Speaker 1: more than one occasion, more than one player. You do

3249
02:52:34,200 --> 02:52:35,959
Speaker 1: not get off the hook. Didn't surprise me. You do

3250
02:52:36,040 --> 02:52:39,160
Speaker 1: not get off that hook either for that game. You

3251
02:52:39,200 --> 02:52:42,480
Speaker 1: are you are? The hook is real, right, you may

3252
02:52:42,480 --> 02:52:44,600
Speaker 1: as well, Yeah, you may as well have a cheeseburger

3253
02:52:44,640 --> 02:52:47,120
Speaker 1: because you're not going back in that game, right. I

3254
02:52:47,160 --> 02:52:49,800
Speaker 1: mean that it took a long time for Singletary to

3255
02:52:49,800 --> 02:52:53,160
Speaker 1: get back in the game. Yeah, like the last three

3256
02:52:53,200 --> 02:52:54,720
Speaker 1: or four minutes, I want to say, and the same

3257
02:52:54,760 --> 02:52:57,000
Speaker 1: for Zach moss Um. As a matter of fact, I

3258
02:52:57,000 --> 02:52:59,199
Speaker 1: don't even know if he he did may have gotten

3259
02:52:59,200 --> 02:53:01,320
Speaker 1: back in the game the fourth later got back in

3260
02:53:01,320 --> 02:53:04,600
Speaker 1: the game, yeah, yeah, when they were killing the clock.

3261
02:53:05,440 --> 02:53:09,520
Speaker 1: From Jack on the tweet sheet, I gathered from Brandon

3262
02:53:09,520 --> 02:53:11,640
Speaker 1: Bean's comments that Milana was as good as gone. Reading

3263
02:53:11,680 --> 02:53:14,039
Speaker 1: between the lines being said Matt wants and has earned

3264
02:53:14,080 --> 02:53:15,840
Speaker 1: the right to test the market, and he said they

3265
02:53:16,280 --> 02:53:19,000
Speaker 1: would have to be smart in signings. I think Milano

3266
02:53:19,080 --> 02:53:21,800
Speaker 1: will get paid. I just hope it's not in Casey

3267
02:53:22,040 --> 02:53:24,560
Speaker 1: or in the division. Now we have to replace him

3268
02:53:25,000 --> 02:53:28,840
Speaker 1: and add more speed. I read between the lines in

3269
02:53:28,920 --> 02:53:30,840
Speaker 1: much the same way that Jack did Steve. I mean,

3270
02:53:30,879 --> 02:53:34,840
Speaker 1: he said virtually the same thing that he said last

3271
02:53:34,879 --> 02:53:37,480
Speaker 1: offseason about Jordan Phillips and Jack Lawson, and we know

3272
02:53:37,520 --> 02:53:39,400
Speaker 1: what happened to both those guys. And I think it's

3273
02:53:39,400 --> 02:53:41,440
Speaker 1: because Brandon Bean knows the writing on the wall, and

3274
02:53:41,480 --> 02:53:43,960
Speaker 1: the writing on the wall is Matt Milano has put

3275
02:53:44,000 --> 02:53:46,240
Speaker 1: together enough evidence in his first four years in the

3276
02:53:46,280 --> 02:53:49,560
Speaker 1: league to prove he is a playmaker on defense and

3277
02:53:49,600 --> 02:53:52,320
Speaker 1: a versatile one at that, and that is in demand

3278
02:53:52,400 --> 02:53:54,840
Speaker 1: in what is a passing league on the defensive side

3279
02:53:54,879 --> 02:53:57,600
Speaker 1: of the ball. So yes, there are enough teams out

3280
02:53:57,600 --> 02:54:00,280
Speaker 1: there with enough cap dollars to spend where he is

3281
02:54:00,320 --> 02:54:03,879
Speaker 1: going to get paid a handsome sum of money on

3282
02:54:03,959 --> 02:54:06,600
Speaker 1: a long term contract, and it's probably going to be

3283
02:54:06,680 --> 02:54:11,000
Speaker 1: one that the Bills simply cannot compete with. And I

3284
02:54:11,040 --> 02:54:13,800
Speaker 1: share Jack's concern. I do not I don't want it

3285
02:54:13,840 --> 02:54:16,039
Speaker 1: to be in the division. I am fearful that it

3286
02:54:16,080 --> 02:54:17,920
Speaker 1: will be. Yeah, I mean you think what he where

3287
02:54:17,959 --> 02:54:22,959
Speaker 1: he went to Boston College, and oh, don't please don't. Right.

3288
02:54:23,160 --> 02:54:28,440
Speaker 1: And then also and also you know what team has

3289
02:54:28,480 --> 02:54:30,560
Speaker 1: struggled to beat the Bills of late, and that's been

3290
02:54:30,560 --> 02:54:37,240
Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins. Josh is Josh has slapped them every

3291
02:54:37,280 --> 02:54:40,480
Speaker 1: time he's played him. So yeah, and plus it's the

3292
02:54:40,520 --> 02:54:42,440
Speaker 1: old adage if you can get free agents from your

3293
02:54:42,440 --> 02:54:46,480
Speaker 1: division rivals, they get worse, you get better now. And

3294
02:54:46,720 --> 02:54:51,480
Speaker 1: both those teams, the Patriots and the Dolphins, they got

3295
02:54:51,480 --> 02:54:54,160
Speaker 1: a lot of cash to spend too, So that's certainly

3296
02:54:54,160 --> 02:54:57,760
Speaker 1: a possibility. And I know this too, especially on the

3297
02:54:57,760 --> 02:55:03,080
Speaker 1: Patriots side of it. If Milano goes to the Patriots

3298
02:55:04,520 --> 02:55:06,760
Speaker 1: the first two weeks of his tenure, there will be

3299
02:55:06,800 --> 02:55:09,760
Speaker 1: a debrief about what everything that the Buffalo Bills thought

3300
02:55:09,800 --> 02:55:11,600
Speaker 1: about the Patriots and what they were doing to him

3301
02:55:11,640 --> 02:55:15,720
Speaker 1: and why. It will be a total debrief about what

3302
02:55:15,800 --> 02:55:18,600
Speaker 1: the Bill's philosophy of defense is and why. So you know,

3303
02:55:18,720 --> 02:55:22,640
Speaker 1: all of that goes into it, right, and taking the

3304
02:55:22,680 --> 02:55:26,440
Speaker 1: Milano thing a step further, he's also in orlandill Florida native,

3305
02:55:26,720 --> 02:55:30,000
Speaker 1: so there's that too, so Miami might have some pull

3306
02:55:30,360 --> 02:55:32,680
Speaker 1: as well now when his family could probably drive to

3307
02:55:32,720 --> 02:55:34,800
Speaker 1: every home game every year. If that becomes the case,

3308
02:55:35,080 --> 02:55:37,360
Speaker 1: it's kind of hard to take because he's been such

3309
02:55:37,400 --> 02:55:39,840
Speaker 1: a great player for this team. If this COVID cap

3310
02:55:39,920 --> 02:55:43,360
Speaker 1: situation is going to be cost prohibitive in terms of

3311
02:55:43,400 --> 02:55:45,960
Speaker 1: spending some money to the Bills this offseason, and if

3312
02:55:46,040 --> 02:55:48,960
Speaker 1: I cost the Mulatto, all right, great time for us

3313
02:55:49,280 --> 02:55:51,280
Speaker 1: when we come back. We'll wrap it up on what

3314
02:55:51,400 --> 02:55:53,720
Speaker 1: has been a very interesting day in terms of the

3315
02:55:53,760 --> 02:55:56,440
Speaker 1: future of the Bills and this coming off season back

3316
02:55:56,440 --> 02:55:58,640
Speaker 1: in a pledge, you're on one Bill's life. Isn't a

3317
02:55:58,680 --> 02:56:00,320
Speaker 1: black alla to help, it's fuck a little bit las

3318
02:56:19,280 --> 02:56:22,440
Speaker 1: time for what have we learned from CBA's show. Brought

3319
02:56:22,480 --> 02:56:25,760
Speaker 1: to you by Skyworks, the official construction equipment rental company

3320
02:56:25,760 --> 02:56:29,760
Speaker 1: of the Buffalo Bills, had NFL Networks Mark rossa On,

3321
02:56:29,879 --> 02:56:33,880
Speaker 1: the former NFL Front Office executive former college scouting director

3322
02:56:34,560 --> 02:56:37,520
Speaker 1: for a couple of teams in the league, including the Bills,

3323
02:56:38,440 --> 02:56:42,240
Speaker 1: worked previously with Leslie Frasier in Philadelphia and gave us

3324
02:56:42,640 --> 02:56:45,160
Speaker 1: kind of an in depth idea as to what Frasier

3325
02:56:45,320 --> 02:56:49,520
Speaker 1: brings as a head coaching candidate. He just has a

3326
02:56:49,680 --> 02:56:54,039
Speaker 1: quiet confidence about him. You can tell he's really invested

3327
02:56:54,440 --> 02:56:58,520
Speaker 1: in people, in his players, not just on the field,

3328
02:56:58,520 --> 02:57:01,680
Speaker 1: but off the field. He's consistent. The great head coaches

3329
02:57:01,680 --> 02:57:04,320
Speaker 1: I've worked with are coaches in general. Players want to

3330
02:57:04,320 --> 02:57:08,080
Speaker 1: see that consistency, the genuineness out of them, and Leslie

3331
02:57:08,120 --> 02:57:13,120
Speaker 1: Frasier is consistent and genuine in all his interactions throughout

3332
02:57:13,200 --> 02:57:17,480
Speaker 1: the building in coaching. You know, he's obviously has the experience.

3333
02:57:17,520 --> 02:57:20,039
Speaker 1: He was a player in the NFL. So I think

3334
02:57:20,040 --> 02:57:22,720
Speaker 1: what the Texans, not even talking about the other candidates,

3335
02:57:22,720 --> 02:57:25,960
Speaker 1: but just what Leslie Frasier would bring in that situation there.

3336
02:57:26,040 --> 02:57:32,680
Speaker 1: It's just the stability sometimes you just need that. Well, Steve,

3337
02:57:33,440 --> 02:57:35,720
Speaker 1: you have to believe this decision is going to come

3338
02:57:35,760 --> 02:57:39,800
Speaker 1: down relatively soon in Houston. The job that one Leslie

3339
02:57:39,840 --> 02:57:42,920
Speaker 1: Frasier is up for, along with David Culley, Eric the

3340
02:57:43,080 --> 02:57:50,360
Speaker 1: Enemy and Josh McCown. I guess I don't know unless

3341
02:57:50,360 --> 02:57:52,440
Speaker 1: they're waiting on the enemy, right, I mean, that's the

3342
02:57:52,480 --> 02:57:55,000
Speaker 1: only head that could be it. They could be it. Um.

3343
02:57:55,400 --> 02:57:58,440
Speaker 1: You know, we'd heard that this last championship game in

3344
02:57:58,480 --> 02:58:00,320
Speaker 1: the AFC was going to have something to do with that,

3345
02:58:00,640 --> 02:58:03,920
Speaker 1: and we know that Leslie was just there yesterday interviewing

3346
02:58:03,920 --> 02:58:06,360
Speaker 1: in person, so it'll be interesting to see what the

3347
02:58:06,400 --> 02:58:09,640
Speaker 1: results of that are. They certainly cast a wide net,

3348
02:58:10,560 --> 02:58:14,840
Speaker 1: but the Houston ket to coaching and let's face it, Brownie,

3349
02:58:14,920 --> 02:58:16,920
Speaker 1: it's not the most attractive situation to go in and

3350
02:58:17,080 --> 02:58:20,520
Speaker 1: like think you're gonna have immediate success. They got no

3351
02:58:20,640 --> 02:58:24,640
Speaker 1: draft picks, no money to spend, and their most important

3352
02:58:24,680 --> 02:58:32,440
Speaker 1: player wants out. Che The could use you could use

3353
02:58:32,440 --> 02:58:34,560
Speaker 1: a word to describe it, that would be in all right,

3354
02:58:34,800 --> 02:58:37,040
Speaker 1: that's it for Steve and I today. I will be

3355
02:58:37,040 --> 02:58:40,039
Speaker 1: back in studio tomorrow. Our thanks to you and the

3356
02:58:40,080 --> 02:58:42,320
Speaker 1: crew back there for making this work the last couple

3357
02:58:42,360 --> 02:58:45,280
Speaker 1: of days. But back in studio for Thursday's edition. Join

3358
02:58:45,360 --> 02:58:47,240
Speaker 1: Steve and I then, as we're back on our food.

3359
02:58:47,320 --> 02:58:49,240
Speaker 1: Here on one Bill's life, because anybody can lie to help.

3360
02:58:49,240 --> 02:58:50,359
Speaker 1: He's fucking little doings.