1 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: All right, join now on morning Combat CBS Sports by 2 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: the gentleman who had a big win at UFC two 3 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: ninety two over Pedro Muno's you know him as Cheeto. 4 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:16,080 Speaker 1: It is Marlon Vera, Hi Cheeto. How are you ah good? 5 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:21,079 Speaker 2: My bro happy and you know, excited about get to 6 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 2: display my skills and putting a good final Satay and 7 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 2: I on. You know, I'm healthy and you know ready 8 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 2: to go. 9 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: And you got a fresh shave, which we were talking 10 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: about off camera there just earlier. But let's talk about 11 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: your performance of two ninety two. So I watched it 12 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: again this morning to prepare for today's interview. Grade it 13 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: for me? How would you grade your performance? 14 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:42,639 Speaker 2: I mean that was a solid performance. I feel that 15 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 2: that was like a dominant performance from I started to 16 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,599 Speaker 2: Boren uh top to Bordon and just you know, use 17 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 2: my job, use my movement, use my defense on my 18 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 2: favor and just every time he throws something or try 19 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 2: to attend the engagement and make it pay. And I 20 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 2: mean that was a beautiful job. I was myself. I 21 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 2: was like, wow, that was a clean job. If you 22 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 2: can do that, you don't need to rush anything, You 23 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 2: don't need to try too hard. So I'm excited about 24 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 2: with the fight and the way it went, and I 25 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 2: was just able to show a little more wrinkles on 26 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 2: my game. You know, I don't need to go cursey 27 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:22,759 Speaker 2: for the finish. I don't And this time I went 28 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 2: a little quicker in the first round. So I mean, 29 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 2: I'm trying to please the public. So we want to 30 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 2: go back to this time. 31 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:32,199 Speaker 1: Now. That is something that's been noted about your style, 32 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 1: which is that as the fight goes on, it heats up, 33 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: and it heats up, and it heats up. But have 34 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: you been consciously working on maybe starting a little bit 35 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: quicker so that you don't have to rely more at 36 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:42,479 Speaker 1: the end of a fight. 37 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 2: Yep, one hundred percent. I think this is the first 38 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 2: fight in a long long time that I actually forced 39 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 2: myself to, like, we win in the first round, say 40 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 2: we put in everything in the first one. And that's 41 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 2: a lot of pressure because it's so easy for me 42 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 2: to make rid see the speed, see everything on them 43 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 2: saying like okay, fuck you, I'm coming. But this time 44 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 2: I wanted, you know what, my whole turning cap coach 45 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 2: did a great job on you know, talking me in 46 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 2: to do that, and you know, We've work on a 47 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 2: lot of different things, but we're really focus on round one. 48 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 2: Just go and really look. 49 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 1: How disruptive is it? Though? Right? Because I'm gonna guess 50 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: that if you have a choice between a three round 51 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: fight and a five round fight, it sounds like you 52 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: would still prefer to be in a five round fight. 53 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: So I guess I'm wondering was it, like, how can 54 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: you explain the training to me? Like, what is the 55 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 1: difficulty in trying to make that adjustment early? What do 56 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:42,359 Speaker 1: you have to overcome? 57 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 2: I feel that it's just a mental thing. You just 58 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:50,239 Speaker 2: gotta like go crazy, go hard the first round leg 59 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 2: and in all my sparing sessions, I was going off 60 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 2: the gate, just going just just looking for big shots, 61 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 2: sitting big things and just getting off because five rounds 62 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 2: is I mean, five rounds is the best thing you 63 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:08,279 Speaker 2: can do. You're the Many band, all the lights on you, 64 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 2: You're in the poster cooler whatever, Right, I'm a MANI 65 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 2: band guy. I take any man event over being the 66 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 2: second or terri fining any paper were looking for a funk 67 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 2: about that? When you're the Many band, all the eyes 68 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 2: are in you, espn everything like you are the person 69 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 2: and that's what grows my brand bigger, that's what put 70 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 2: all these eyes on me, That's what takes me to 71 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 2: the next level. So what it one? I take every 72 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 2: five round that out there? 73 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: Still, though, if you go back to a five round fight, 74 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: are you gonna keep this same kind of score first mentality? 75 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 2: Yep, it's just you gotta work and get better. You 76 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 2: gotta work on adding twos. Like everybody knows I'm a 77 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 2: calculatory killer, what about faster calculatory killer. That's a motherfucker 78 00:03:57,560 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 2: a two point er right there, and I'm in. 79 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: For it certainly. Is you know. What's one thing I've 80 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:03,839 Speaker 1: been kind of wondering about is like I was looking 81 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: up down on your resume and it's like some of 82 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: the hard hitters you've faced over time, dude, you legitimately 83 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: have some like historic levels of durability to What do 84 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 1: you attribute that to? Why are you much more durable 85 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 1: than many of your competitors? 86 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 2: Consistency? Man, work hard. I get at this level. Everybody 87 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 2: works hard, everybody tries, everybody have a desire for being 88 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 2: a world's happening. But you can always push yourself a 89 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:36,919 Speaker 2: little bit more. You can always expand that window of 90 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 2: pain tolerance, just being able to keep going when everything 91 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 2: is firing up. And it's just like, I mean, shave 92 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 2: the segments of my sprints, go a little faster on 93 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:53,039 Speaker 2: my sparing. When you're hit in the back, we all 94 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 2: get started. Everybody gets started. There's the point that everybody's 95 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 2: like that. But when you're in that S and R 96 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 2: and you're feeling that, and you just go to a 97 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 2: mindset of like, let's push a little harder. Let's go 98 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 2: ten seconds longer, Let's go a mile faster, a mile longer. 99 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 2: Let's take these seconds down on each mile. I mean, 100 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 2: you can expand that capacity to another level. And a 101 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 2: lot of people might try to catch me. They will try, 102 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 2: but they won't catch me because that's something like what 103 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 2: Kobe Bryant needs to say. It's like, well, you're taking 104 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 2: time off, well you're thinking about this and that or 105 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 2: all this bullsh that comes with success. I'm just putting 106 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 2: another rep. I'm putting another rep. By the time we 107 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 2: fancy each other, I got years ahead of you. 108 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 1: But I was just gonna say, certain guys appear to 109 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 1: be just extra onion, like they're not as limited by 110 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: injury as other ones. You seem to be one of 111 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 1: those guys. Is it one of the five, one of 112 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: those guys. Is it a genetic thing as well? 113 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 2: I think it could be how we live for lives, 114 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 2: I mean probably. I mean everything I do is based 115 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 2: on performance and health, brain health. I mean going from 116 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 2: the eyes, but the son go to better on time. 117 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 2: I mean, I know the coolest people out there, I 118 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 2: go out with them, but I'm not drinking. I'm not 119 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,919 Speaker 2: saying too late, Like I give myself like little little 120 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 2: enjoyments like I go out with my boy Bronze and 121 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 2: we go to good resumes, we eat. I mean last 122 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 2: night I went to see my boys like Brian play 123 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 2: live like there's things don't come with those things. But 124 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 2: after that, people go to a party, go to drink. 125 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 2: I used to say to like that first half, have fun, 126 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 2: give it a hog. Okay, guys, I gotta go. Oh 127 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 2: you you can go crazy. No, I'm fighting a couple 128 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 2: of months. I'm already thinking ahead and I give myself fond. 129 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 2: I do function, but everything gonna be in a control circle. 130 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 2: Like what you do off camp, it's probably gonna help 131 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 2: you the most when you're in camp. Like right now, 132 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 2: like I'm gonna wait probably one or two more days 133 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 2: and then I'm gonna start it running, doing my low base, 134 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 2: going back to the eyes, going back to the sauna, 135 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 2: and just keep eating healthy. That just keeps getting your 136 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 2: body strong and strong and strong. So by the time 137 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 2: you go to all the world and turn, the body 138 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 2: is ready to go. Because if you go and just 139 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 2: do everything wrong leading up to the fight and then 140 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 2: well you can expect a bad result. You cannot expect 141 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 2: your body to take it off. So you know, good food, 142 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 2: good life, having the good circle around you, smile a lot. 143 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 2: I mean, what else can it do? 144 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: That's about it? I suppose all right now, has the 145 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: UFC at all indicated to you that you could be 146 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: next for now new UFC Bantamway Champion Showana Manley. Have 147 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 1: you had any kind of conversations about that? 148 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 2: Zero, Like after the fight, I used text day and 149 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 2: Hunter and out like, hey, guys, you guys know where 150 00:07:55,800 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 2: I am. I'm ready to go. So yes, if there's 151 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 2: something to talk, let's talk it out. But I'm all 152 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 2: in for so I'm sure they will come with something, 153 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 2: And to me just seems like how not to do 154 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 2: it right now? There's no way they don't do it. 155 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 2: Right now. I mean business wise, is the best time 156 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 2: to do it. Money wise, I wise. So that's why 157 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 2: I'm not even pushing myself. I don't need to push it. 158 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 2: It's it's already, serfs, It's it's as ready to go 159 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 2: as you can be. 160 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: How would you rate Sean O'Malley's performance against Sterling? 161 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 2: It was great. That's a bit too perfect, right, I 162 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 2: mean you're finding a guy that is a really clean striker, 163 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 2: that have good ship in the punches, and you just 164 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 2: run to the guy like, wait, thing is gonna happen. 165 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 2: But I'm I'm at that level. I can hang with 166 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 2: anybody in the standing. I can be in front of you, 167 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:57,439 Speaker 2: I can make rids. Starling is just a gry, fucking jumping, 168 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 2: good wrestling, but he just don't have that stand up 169 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 2: to like be writ their eye to I and be 170 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 2: like I just playing chess. He just don't have that, 171 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 2: And I do have that. I thought every single work 172 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 2: as a striker and neither no one has put me 173 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 2: in a bad position just because I'm in there. I 174 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:21,959 Speaker 2: have a good base. And then going back to coach, 175 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 2: He's the one that brought me to the next level 176 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 2: of the eyes, the coordination, the strike, and like just 177 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 2: growing my toughness and my work ethic and be like 178 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 2: polish everything. And I mean I can hang with every already. 179 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 2: Fortunately I was y in front of him, you know, 180 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 2: so now it's a good time to do it. But 181 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:44,679 Speaker 2: I started to make a big mistake. He when I mean, 182 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 2: you cannot run to is it because it's not a 183 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 2: good striker. Don't run like that because anything that taught you, 184 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 2: a clean one or a bad one is going to 185 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 2: catch it. 186 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: And in fact, in the Pedro Munos fight, you were 187 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: like on purpose, but you were right there in front 188 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: of him, duking it out with him right like. So 189 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 1: the idea is that Sterling can play like the distance game, 190 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: but he can't play the distance closing game, whereas you 191 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: believe you can just be right there in the pocket 192 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: as long as you need. 193 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 2: I mean, and I can do it all. I can move, 194 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 2: I can go backwards, I can bring you what I want. 195 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 2: I can definitely walk you down. That's easy. Walking people 196 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 2: down and drown them. That's my best thing. But if 197 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 2: I need to pimp and move around and take my time, 198 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 2: I can go for a walk too. So I'm a 199 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 2: great striker, and I know that, like I've been in 200 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 2: front of the best of the best in the GYFC 201 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 2: coach always make sure we sparking a really high level 202 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,319 Speaker 2: pro boxers that I'm surely even supposed to be hanging 203 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 2: up with them in there, and I do. But it's 204 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 2: just it's just consistent and when you are just doing 205 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 2: it and doing it and doing it to just become good. 206 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 2: And I like that fielding of being good too. I 207 00:10:57,679 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 2: don't stop doing it, I don't get loose. I just 208 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 2: keep doing it, keep it, doing it, and I thought, 209 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 2: you just keep getting better and Sharper and. 210 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 1: I want to talk about Sean for one more second. 211 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:11,199 Speaker 1: But first in terms of your style. I mean, people 212 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: don't realize this. You're only thirty years old, which is 213 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 1: crazy because you've been around for quite some time. Your 214 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:19,319 Speaker 1: resume is now long and quite decorated. But the thing 215 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: that sort of stands out to me is in terms 216 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: of your style, did you have an idea in mind 217 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: about what it wanted to look like or did you 218 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: put the trust in Jason Perilla or various other coaches 219 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: and say where should I go? How did you get 220 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:34,719 Speaker 1: to this point in terms of your style? Who came 221 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 1: up with the idea. 222 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 2: I mean, just like I said earlier, I do have 223 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 2: the word. I think I'm the type of guy that 224 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 2: I don't question too many things. I'm not the guy 225 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 2: to tell you like why I don't do this, Oh 226 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 2: that does don't fit with myself. Like if you fucking like, 227 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 2: if you're a good coach like Perilla is, like a 228 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 2: really decorated, high fucking level coach that have multiple champions 229 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 2: and have many different projects and pretty much ninety of 230 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 2: those projects become a world champion. I mean, if the 231 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 2: guy told you like, hey, let's work on this, that's working, 232 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 2: and especially like the best test is like when you 233 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 2: bring like a really high level kickboxer, a really high 234 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:20,319 Speaker 2: level pro boxer, and you're able to hang in there 235 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 2: and actually score points and make it competitive. You go like, 236 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 2: I mean, what else can you can you expect out 237 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 2: of your skills? But I just I used to stick 238 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 2: around in the gym long enough that I learned how 239 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:38,199 Speaker 2: to learn. I learned how to like pay attention, and 240 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 2: I learned how to also cut the bullet because in 241 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 2: MM you got so many fucking want to big coaches 242 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 2: are fucking toxic people that tell you like, hey, let's 243 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 2: do this program you put I don't know, you squeeze 244 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:52,679 Speaker 2: a cactus and you get more pointed about it. There 245 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 2: are so many of those fucking scums in MMA, so many. 246 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 2: Through my experience, I learned how to take all those 247 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,559 Speaker 2: little puzzles like no, you're not good, No you're by 248 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 2: so No you're fucking definitely toxic. But that's through experience, 249 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:11,679 Speaker 2: because a got like me that I want to I'm 250 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 2: an open man that I want to get better. I 251 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 2: want to absorb as much at bicycle you will. You 252 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 2: will run into the fucking shitty one and then it 253 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:25,679 Speaker 2: takes balls and a personality to kind of like kick 254 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 2: that person up. Sometimes they do. They're not a bad person, 255 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 2: but their mean well or they're mean bad, but they 256 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 2: will definitely hurt your career. And I've been there before, 257 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:37,559 Speaker 2: listening to somebody that I'm like, holy shit, how how 258 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 2: was listening to that person? Bas experience too, That's what 259 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 2: you get to this point, and you know, thank God, 260 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 2: so good, so far. 261 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 1: All right, So you thought Sean Omalley before, which is 262 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 1: part of the reason why a rematch is quite intriguing 263 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 1: at this point. But let's go back to that fight. 264 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 1: What did you learn about him in that fight. 265 00:13:56,320 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 2: I mean very explosive guy, really really strong. One thing, 266 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 2: like he fakes a lot of his face like move. 267 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 2: It's kind of like an awkward it's not like a 268 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 2: like like an easy fake that he would like really 269 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:12,719 Speaker 2: throw a fake. And then because he's that athletic and 270 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 2: he's really like bouncing and he move a lot his head, 271 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 2: move along the head like he looked to the other 272 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 2: side and punch. You just gotta like find a way 273 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 2: hard to ignore those things. You gotta find a way harder, 274 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 2: like don't buy on those things. And honestly, with a 275 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 2: guy like that, you can open up too much. You 276 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 2: can go crazy because he's really good. I throw right 277 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 2: after you throw. That's the best thing, in my opinion. 278 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 2: Strong kicks really big. But I mean I got like that. 279 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 2: You just gotta drown him. You got you gotta be 280 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 2: on his face and tell and let him know that 281 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 2: you didn't give a fuck. And the most important thing, 282 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 2: in my opinion, is a mental game. He does bring 283 00:14:56,320 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 2: the lights. He does bring this like different hour. That's 284 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 2: just that's his thing. You know. I feel like bring 285 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 2: some of that in the different ways. I got my 286 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 2: energy too. But if you're the guy that you're reading 287 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 2: comments or like you're paying too much attention of the 288 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 2: on the cameras. I got like that can definitely hurt you, 289 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 2: But luckily for me, I don't give two folks about that. 290 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 2: I don't really care if you're the most famous guy 291 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 2: out there, you're a fucking piece of shit that no 292 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 2: one cares about you doesn't matter to me. When I'm 293 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 2: in there, it's my life for yours, and I fucking 294 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 2: love my life. So I'm gonna I'm gonna find my 295 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 2: eyes off. So I'm not too worried about the more 296 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 2: extra comerace or the more introducer, just because in that 297 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 2: five week i'm fighting that type of guy, I get 298 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 2: more recognition or more this and that. That thing doesn't 299 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 2: get to my head. That's like, my boy, is he saying, 300 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 2: fuck the noise. I'm I'm not even there. I'm like 301 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 2: those clouds they're there. I'm looking forward to the sun. 302 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 2: I don't I don't need clouds in top of me. 303 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 2: I need light to bright up my mind. So, I mean, 304 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 2: I think I'm in a pretty good position, and chances 305 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 2: that I'm a world champion by the enemy's a very 306 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 2: pretty fucking big Yeah. 307 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 1: They could be pretty good in terms of like how 308 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: do I ask this? So for example, you thought John Lineker, 309 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: who has a huge punch, right, does O'Malley have a 310 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: big punch in that sense or does he get success 311 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 1: because of like the timing and the accuracy. What is 312 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 1: the difference in like the punching ability between a guy 313 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 1: like Linegar and a guy like O'Malley. 314 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 2: I mean O'Malley's aman is very similar to what Cornor does. 315 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 2: Like he will take a step back and just throw 316 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 2: one big gy maker and it's really accurate and it's 317 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 2: really quick. So for a guy like o'miley, you need 318 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 2: to be sharp. I'm very focused. With a guy like Lineger, 319 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 2: you can blog his shit and he he gives, doesn't 320 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 2: give not fox and he goes left right, left, apercut 321 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 2: fucking tomahawk. But whatever lands, he's gonna put your lives out. 322 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 2: I an't have a big fucking I need him on 323 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 2: the face. I mean I beat his as in the 324 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 2: the run, but it wasn't enough, and he can just 325 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 2: he's willing to take two. He's similar to Pedro he 326 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 2: used to way he hits way harder than Pedal, but 327 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 2: like he's similar as star. He would take three punches 328 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 2: and go crazy at you. And I feel like guy 329 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 2: like Leniker might be a little more dangerous because he 330 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 2: fights a reckless and I like that. You gotta likes 331 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 2: your thence is your move a little better? I felt 332 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:40,679 Speaker 2: we used when I was too young, and then by 333 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 2: the time I realized I was actually able to win 334 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 2: the fight, I run out of time. But it was 335 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 2: a close fight for a for a young for a 336 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 2: young cheto back then. 337 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:53,200 Speaker 1: No, it was and and and of course you performed 338 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 1: quite able. And as I mentioned you, dude, you're still thirty. 339 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 1: I mean that's that's still pretty young, to be quite 340 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 1: honest with you, all things considered. One more note about 341 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:04,439 Speaker 1: the fight that you have with O'Malley previously, which was 342 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 1: that one of the narratives coming out and I'm not 343 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:09,360 Speaker 1: saying it's fair or it isn't. Only you and he 344 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:11,439 Speaker 1: and the world will figure it out in time, but 345 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 1: one of the narratives that came out of that fight 346 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 1: was that, oh, he might be physically brittle, he might 347 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 1: not be physically able to handle some of the demands 348 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:23,159 Speaker 1: of fighting long term. Do you believe that O'Malley is 349 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: to some extent more brittle than perhaps other bantam weights. 350 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 2: I mean that's hard to know. I mean I can 351 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:34,160 Speaker 2: call him a policy and I can talk shit back 352 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:38,399 Speaker 2: to him, but honestly, I don't know that's you know, 353 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 2: he knows that it lived down like I know, fucking 354 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 2: hards and rug like I'll be ready for a for 355 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 2: a proper war, and I'm willing to go fucking anywhere. 356 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:54,639 Speaker 2: But in him, I mean, he's just he just have 357 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 2: that weird mentality. You know that in order to grow, 358 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 2: you're gotta accept this and let it go. But maybe 359 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 2: he's fucking around and turn to fool us. That's why 360 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 2: I really don't even pay attention too much to what 361 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 2: people say, because sometimes they use fooling you and make 362 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 2: you think something. Then there is smarter or sharper what 363 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 2: they are. Like starting saying, oh he was better than 364 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:17,880 Speaker 2: I thought. You should never say that, because in first place, 365 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 2: you should be you should know that he's good enough 366 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 2: to be there with you in order to don't lose 367 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 2: your focus and don't use those don't lose that that 368 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:29,199 Speaker 2: cool in there to win a fire. I mean, if 369 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 2: you think it's gonna be easy, probably is a mistaken 370 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 2: He I think he thinks like that a lot too, 371 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 2: Like he really thinks it's too good for everybody, and 372 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 2: then you find out people actually is gonna be ready 373 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 2: to fight you there, all. 374 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 1: Right, a few more questions for I, we'll let you go. 375 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: First thing on this one is the future of like 376 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 1: prospects and fighters from Ecuador. Now we have Michael Morales 377 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 1: who's on his way as a young guy. He looks 378 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: like a tank in his own division. I wonder what 379 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 1: you feel like in five years, what the future of 380 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:00,679 Speaker 1: Ecuador and MMA it might look like. 381 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 2: I mean, it's just I think it's gonna be booming. 382 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 2: I think more guys, more kids are gonna be like, 383 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 2: that's what they want, That's what I want to do. 384 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 2: But we still need a lot of infrastructure in terms 385 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 2: of like how to the which way class peak is. 386 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 2: I see a lot of good, tough guys that have 387 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 2: actually pretty decent kickboxing, maybe so so UITs on wrestling. 388 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 2: But the reason why Michael has been so successful so 389 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 2: quick is just because he's a real wrestler. He came 390 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:36,439 Speaker 2: from he knows how to cut away, he knows how 391 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 2: to wrestle, and that's that's pretty much half of the battle. 392 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 2: When you married to YUFC. When I merried to YUFC, 393 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 2: I have no idea how to cut away. I was 394 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:46,439 Speaker 2: just a fighter. I was a street fighter with some 395 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 2: digitsu and big pair of balls and then gonna figure 396 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 2: it out. And now I got experienced and I know 397 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:56,199 Speaker 2: how to fight. And my record was small. But like 398 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 2: for Aget, like him that he actually wrestles cauts away 399 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,400 Speaker 2: and I mean it's been It's not easy for him, 400 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 2: but he just had a better start than me, a 401 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,439 Speaker 2: better road for the old ones coming in the door side. 402 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 2: Sometimes when I see a bit or a highlight of 403 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,400 Speaker 2: a kid that is actually good, there isn't the wrong 404 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 2: way because there's like super overweight, fucking tough as fuck. 405 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 2: But if you come to the UPC like that, you're 406 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 2: gonna be a walk in the park for anybody. Because 407 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 2: I was watching some fifty five ers in the acronoms, 408 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,679 Speaker 2: like they're like ten foot shorter than me and a 409 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 2: little fat. They can fight like a motherfucker good to 410 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:35,880 Speaker 2: me and everything, but people gonna teach them like, hey, 411 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 2: like you gotta leave a little bit more of like 412 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 2: a professional, like a cleaner die yet like don't be 413 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 2: a normal guy that fights. You gotta become an athlete, 414 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 2: a fighter and all that, and I just knowledge, I 415 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 2: hope that goes to the country a little quicker than 416 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 2: than not. 417 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 1: And then last thing on Ecuador, it's I don't get 418 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: a chance to speak to many Ecuadorians, so I just 419 00:21:57,560 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: I want to ask you very quickly if I may. 420 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 1: I know there was a recent assassination of a political 421 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: candidate and it created a lot of concern about the 422 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,919 Speaker 1: state of things. I wonder, sort of watching that from Afar, 423 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:10,120 Speaker 1: what you make of the I don't know, instability there 424 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:10,679 Speaker 1: these days. 425 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 2: Wha it's so fucked up right now, Like, dude, you 426 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:22,159 Speaker 2: open Twitter and he's shooting every couple hours more at 427 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 2: temp of murder to rich people because they don't want 428 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 2: to pay the bad guys just for protection from their 429 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:33,159 Speaker 2: own self. It's becoming a fucking it's it's dark. It's 430 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 2: like it's just like Pablos cover days back in the night. 431 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 2: It's like it's not almost that bad. It's that bad. 432 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:44,120 Speaker 2: And I mean, I'm in the comfort of California, right 433 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 2: but guess what, My father, my mother, all my cousins, 434 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,159 Speaker 2: all the people I love, my brother, his kids, my sister, 435 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 2: her husband, my grandfather, my grandmother, people like fucking my people, 436 00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 2: my gods, they're back home, and I mean they can. 437 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 2: They're a target because of me, right, So it's it's 438 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 2: fucked up. It's really hard just to know what's going on, 439 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,919 Speaker 2: and no one is doing something like, well this get 440 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 2: that bad. You gotta cut that ship from the roots. 441 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 2: You don't go in there and you want to dialogue 442 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,439 Speaker 2: with them, No, you fucking cut that the head of 443 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,719 Speaker 2: his neck and you say, fuck you, oh you fucking 444 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 2: bad people. But no one is doing that. So right 445 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 2: now it's the worst times. Neck or whoever was the 446 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 2: pressent for the last couple of years of fucking moron. 447 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 2: I mean, fuck, do something, man, it's really that bad. 448 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 2: I mean, I lose opportunity to go back home, busit, 449 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 2: my people, show some love, make money, go to do 450 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 2: things with brands. I can go right now. No one 451 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,159 Speaker 2: can go right now. Hm. 452 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: I'm sorry to hear all that. It is certainly an 453 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: unstable time, all right, but let's end on a positive 454 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: note if we can, so cheeto. I don't have quite 455 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 1: the tattooing you do. I got some you know, I'm 456 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 1: a little bit inked up, but you're fully blasted. My 457 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,679 Speaker 1: guy fully. Yeah, look at that. Okay, So we have 458 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 1: a game that we play called Rate that Tat. We're 459 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 1: gonna show you some tattoos and you just give us 460 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,400 Speaker 1: your honest opinion. I'm like you, I'm a bold will 461 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: hold kind of guy, you know what I mean. Like 462 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 1: I like American traditional, I like Japanese tattooing. But we're 463 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 1: gonna show you some UFC fighters tattoos. You just give 464 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 1: me the cheeto vera opinion. How's that sound? 465 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:28,399 Speaker 2: All right? 466 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 1: Here we go. All right, let me pull up my list. Here, 467 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 1: we're gonna get going. Uh. First one up, we've got 468 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 1: Alan Belcher. Let's plow this one out there. What do 469 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 1: you think of this one? Cheeto? 470 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,679 Speaker 2: That one's a really shitty to two. That's a zero 471 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 2: over ten, all. 472 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 1: Right, very good. Next is Darren Elkins the damage on 473 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 1: the chest there. 474 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's joining my man Belcher right there. That I 475 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:57,199 Speaker 2: mean he's fighting a style. He's his g teaching his 476 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 2: face and he went with the with the with the metal. 477 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 2: That that's bad. That's good. 478 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: It's not my favorite either. Okay, a few more of these. 479 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 1: Austin Vanderferd, he fights in Belatour. What about what do 480 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,640 Speaker 1: you think about the throat tat there the eyeball. 481 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's really Cody Garden right there. I mean 482 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 2: Corey pulled it out first. So yeah, you don't want 483 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 2: to be sick on those type. But it's well done 484 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 2: that it's a better looking traditional one not Yeah. 485 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 1: I think it's a well done tattoo. I just wouldn't 486 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:28,360 Speaker 1: want it, if that makes sense. 487 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, theret too much color? Maybe, I mean it says 488 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 2: the guy with a lot of color. 489 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 1: But yeah, no, how about this one Sean Brady's back, 490 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 1: that's a good one. 491 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, he have clean tattoos. He here, he 492 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 2: have color. The tiger on the back of the head 493 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 2: not my favorite, but the back to the two is 494 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 2: pretty good. And he makes sure he put a lot 495 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,639 Speaker 2: of good, like strong colors. He's not going to like 496 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 2: frou look with the color like or what is doing 497 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 2: is very smart and like going dark on the reds. Yeah, 498 00:25:58,119 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 2: that's that's clean. That's clean. 499 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 1: That's a clean tat. I agree. All right. Curtis blades, 500 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,880 Speaker 1: he got razor blades on his arm. What do you think? 501 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's that's the awful bro all right. 502 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 1: How about brock Lessner's sword tattoo. 503 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,120 Speaker 2: I mean, if somebody can pull that's like a Mike 504 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 2: dies On face. That two it's everything wrong about it, 505 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:26,399 Speaker 2: but for some reason just goes perfect on those two guys. 506 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 2: So I would say well done, and that one all right. 507 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:31,959 Speaker 1: And last but not least, how about Gray Maynard. I'm 508 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,680 Speaker 1: not sure if I've seen this one, the tramp stamp there. 509 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 2: I'm a big mm nerd. I remember all of this. 510 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,400 Speaker 2: I mean, even if you, if you were to show 511 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 2: me justice the you, not the face of the person, 512 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:45,880 Speaker 2: I probably would go ten for ten. 513 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 1: All right, that's all we have. Last I'll ask you 514 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 1: this last question for me. Do you have a favorite 515 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 1: tattoo of your own, like anything on you, like the 516 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 1: one that you got blasted on the head. 517 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 2: I mean, the panther is really sick. I mean I 518 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 2: got recently a dead pool in the back of my 519 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:01,880 Speaker 2: leg and. 520 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 1: Let me see let me see. 521 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 2: Ship and the people Martin in there. 522 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:13,920 Speaker 1: Yes, I see Bob smoking, I sure do. Yeah, that's awesome. 523 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 2: I love those two. But I mean my chase is 524 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,439 Speaker 2: a though piece, like franco Is called it, kill it. 525 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 2: I mean, that's why we want to tattoo mytomach, because 526 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 2: he looks. He looks so well done. The way it 527 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 2: looks at I might usually is empty. And of course 528 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 2: what cartoon did is fucking wild. I mean having that's 529 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 2: a different cartoon. It's kind of like a like a 530 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 2: flex for me. I mean, that's cool, it's. 531 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 1: A super flex. He's an in demand artist. What cheeto. 532 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 1: I gotta say, you've been gracious with your time. Congratulations 533 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 1: on your win. I don't know what's going to happen 534 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,120 Speaker 1: in December, but if you have a fight with Sean 535 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: O'Malley or otherwise, I look forward to it. Thank you 536 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 1: so much. 537 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:50,919 Speaker 2: Thank you, Bro. I appreciate you.