WEBVTT - 021123 A Discussion of Standpoint Theory (Part 2)

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<v Speaker 1>And now watching my mic back, you're like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Strikes with waters and headquarters behind him to the border.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you're just tuning in the Civic Cycer, I

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<v Speaker 1>am your host, Ramsy's job.

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<v Speaker 3>He is Ramsey John, I am h Ward. You are

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<v Speaker 3>listening to Civic Cycler a lot more to stick around for,

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<v Speaker 3>so please do.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to spend some time discussing standpoint theory. Yeah yeah, so, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>this is something that is new to me. It's an

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<v Speaker 1>old theory. I think it originated in maybe the seventies

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<v Speaker 1>or something like that. But we just came across it

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<v Speaker 1>and we sat with it and we thought, maybe this

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<v Speaker 1>is a good way to explain some things to our listeners. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Certainly it helped us explain some things to ourselves and

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<v Speaker 1>things that we were seeing. And we like things like that,

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<v Speaker 1>things that challenge our way of thinking and help us

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<v Speaker 1>expand our mental framework. And if you are one of

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<v Speaker 1>the people that likes that sort of thing, and definitely

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<v Speaker 1>stick around for that, and of course much much more.

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<v Speaker 1>But first and foremost, we're going to start off with

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<v Speaker 1>becoming a better ally ba Ba Baba and Today's Baba

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<v Speaker 1>bionnews dot com. And we are going to shout out

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<v Speaker 1>for becoming a better ally an amazing man. I love

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<v Speaker 1>this guy. I spent a lot of time skateboarding when

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<v Speaker 1>I was in high school. Man, when I was in

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<v Speaker 1>grade school, so this was the coolest dude when I

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<v Speaker 1>was in grade school. He actually had had bikes and

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<v Speaker 1>I was in like gts and Dinos and that sort

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<v Speaker 1>of back in the day. Anyway, he had a Tony

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<v Speaker 1>Hawk bike. Anyway, Tony Hawk. Uh. He has pledged to

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<v Speaker 1>donate proceeds from from autographed photos to a memorial on

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<v Speaker 1>for Tyrie Nichols, whose family said shares the same passion

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<v Speaker 1>as a skateboarding legend. On February third, Hawk said he

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<v Speaker 1>and BMX writer Rick Thorne would autograph pictures to raise

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<v Speaker 1>money for Tyrie Nichols Memorial Fund, which was launched after

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty nine year old black man who was fatally

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<v Speaker 1>beaten by Memphis police. Or the associated price is a

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<v Speaker 1>quote from him. My proceeds from these will go to

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<v Speaker 1>the Tyree Nichols Memorial Fund, which includes plans to build

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<v Speaker 1>a public skate park in his honor. As our worlds

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<v Speaker 1>continue to grieve his loss, Hawk tweeted Friday, he goes

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<v Speaker 1>on he was a talented skater, among other admirable traits.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's keep his legacy alive. That man did not have

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<v Speaker 1>to do that. Tony Hawk is a good man. People

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<v Speaker 1>like him go to heaven all right. Nichols and an

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<v Speaker 1>avid skateboarder and father to a four year old boy,

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<v Speaker 1>died on January tenth, three days after he was pulled

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<v Speaker 1>over by Memphis police Officer's footage released earlier this month

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<v Speaker 1>show's officers repeatedly punching, kicking, and hitting him with a

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<v Speaker 1>baton as he cried out for his mother. Six officers

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<v Speaker 1>involved in the deadly traffic stop. Blah blah blah whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Half of the proceeds from the talk Hawk and Thorn's

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<v Speaker 1>autograph photos will go toward helping nichols family, building a

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<v Speaker 1>skate parder in his name, and honoring his love for skateboarding.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's how you can become a better ally do

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<v Speaker 1>like Tony Hawk? Man? I love that one, all right?

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<v Speaker 1>Standpoint theory. While I'm here. I pulled this in as

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<v Speaker 1>Layman's the terms as I could find from britannica dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>But I employ you to take standpoint theory. Put that

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<v Speaker 1>in your lap, and at a point when you have

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<v Speaker 1>some time, read it, read the read the the the

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<v Speaker 1>the cerebral academic version of it. I would never be

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<v Speaker 1>able to articulate it here on this show. I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>have the time, And I don't even know if you

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<v Speaker 1>know my understanding of it is as profound as it

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<v Speaker 1>could be. But we have some certainly have some talking points,

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<v Speaker 1>and I want to share with you. But first I

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<v Speaker 1>want to start with a story. I go for walks

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<v Speaker 1>with some frequency, we'll call it five days a week,

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<v Speaker 1>and let's be honest, an affluent neighborhood. And I have

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<v Speaker 1>friends who never have to worry about money. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't have to worry about money so much so

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<v Speaker 1>that they don't even think about it. And their worldview

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<v Speaker 1>is insulated by their means and the privilege. These people

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<v Speaker 1>are good people, and for a long time I could

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<v Speaker 1>not understand fully and I'm still learning, I'll admit that,

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<v Speaker 1>but I cannot understand fully how you know some people

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<v Speaker 1>could vote for such and such or could have these

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<v Speaker 1>ideas that center you know, profits over people, or were

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<v Speaker 1>so susceptible to what I would consider to be fear

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<v Speaker 1>mongering things that are not based in a real in reality.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we talked about it earlier. CRT is scaring children.

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<v Speaker 1>We've been teaching American history to children since they've been children.

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<v Speaker 1>All of a sudden, because of what is it, the

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<v Speaker 1>Great Replacement theory taking center stage and far right QAnon

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<v Speaker 1>message boards online. You know, people are trying to edge

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<v Speaker 1>kate children or rather uneducatedly is what's the word I'm

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<v Speaker 1>looking for? Fail to educate children so that they do

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<v Speaker 1>not become sympathetic and empathetic, and they use the guise

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<v Speaker 1>of oh, this hurts white children's feelings to appeal to

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<v Speaker 1>folks who have no practical, valid certainly not substantial experience

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<v Speaker 1>walking a path that shows full well that these notions

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<v Speaker 1>are unfounded, entirely unfounded. Right, but good people, well intentioned,

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<v Speaker 1>well meaning people. I'm learning myself crazy. I had a

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<v Speaker 1>conversation recently with a woman, beautiful woman, beautiful woman. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to put her business out there, but she

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<v Speaker 1>knows who she is. She listens to the show and

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<v Speaker 1>while she's listening, I will say again that I love

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<v Speaker 1>you and I thank you for this inspiration for today's segment. Shoots.

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<v Speaker 1>You may come up one day who knows she's talking

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<v Speaker 1>to me? And she says, why is no one listening

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<v Speaker 1>to each other? Why are we not making progress? How

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<v Speaker 1>is the world the way that it is? Why is

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<v Speaker 1>it not simpler? She's asking questions that deserve to be asked, kay,

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<v Speaker 1>that deserve to be answered and answered absolutely, And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>at a lost for words. I'm like, you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>it was that simple, people would have figured it out

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<v Speaker 1>long before I got here. And she says, like me,

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<v Speaker 1>She's like, well you, She says, you know, black people

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<v Speaker 1>are my angels. I promise she's the person that does

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<v Speaker 1>not need to say that. She says, black people have

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<v Speaker 1>always been kind to me in my life. Black people

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<v Speaker 1>have always looked out for me, cared for me when

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<v Speaker 1>I needed it. Black people are my angels. And I

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<v Speaker 1>wish that the world was better for all of us. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>And it's so simple, but you know, how do we

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<v Speaker 1>get there? Enter standpoint theory? All right? So first and foremost,

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<v Speaker 1>I will speak for myself. I believe that Q is

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<v Speaker 1>of a similar persuasion. But I will speak for myself

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<v Speaker 1>first and foremost, I often speak for you, and I

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<v Speaker 1>just assume so. One of my heroes, historical heroes, is

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<v Speaker 1>a man named Fred Hampton. Fred Hampton is known for

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<v Speaker 1>let's be honest. Now, he's known for getting killed by

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<v Speaker 1>the police in Chicago. Assassinated by the police in Chicago.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a fact that is not me embellished. Assassinated by

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<v Speaker 1>the Chicago police. Look that up. They admitted it, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>But when he was alive, he was a very charismatic

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<v Speaker 1>person who was around during the time of the Panthers

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<v Speaker 1>and so forth. And you have this idea and this

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<v Speaker 1>sort of movement. It was referred to as a Rainbow coalition,

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<v Speaker 1>and the idea there was that he took ideas. He

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<v Speaker 1>basically took everyone who had a struggle in this country

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<v Speaker 1>and set them all down at the table with black

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<v Speaker 1>people to say, Okay, my Asian brothers and sisters, my

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<v Speaker 1>Jewish brothers and sisters, we haven't forgotten you, my Indigenous

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<v Speaker 1>Native brothers and sisters, my Hispanic brothers and sisters. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>my lgbt q I A plus brothers and sisters. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>they weren't called that back. Then all of us have

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<v Speaker 1>something to gain by creating a meaningful social impact, and

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<v Speaker 1>we can create that change more easily and more effectively

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<v Speaker 1>together in unison. So we're greater than the sum of

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<v Speaker 1>our parts. Right This rainbow coalition was something that I

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<v Speaker 1>really believed in and believe in right now. And again

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<v Speaker 1>I'm speaking for Q if I may that this is

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<v Speaker 1>something Okay, he's nodding his side, this is something that

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<v Speaker 1>we appreciate on the show. With that in mind, I

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<v Speaker 1>will say this, The standpoint theory is a feminist theory,

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<v Speaker 1>and I will credit the author in just a minute.

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<v Speaker 1>So this does not originate with, you know, a black

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<v Speaker 1>power movement or struggle, rather a feminist struggle, but the

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<v Speaker 1>idea sound. And you know, people that are looking to

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<v Speaker 1>create a better world oftentimes look at historical change makers,

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<v Speaker 1>and far be it from us to ignore our sisters

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<v Speaker 1>in the progress that they've made in their struggles. And

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<v Speaker 1>I know that our sisters and everyone, sir, everyone looks

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<v Speaker 1>at what black people do to try to move the needle.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone else who's kind of born on the strike against them.

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<v Speaker 1>Because we have been traveling this road for a very

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<v Speaker 1>long time and have made meaningful progress throughout history. So

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<v Speaker 1>today we're taking a page out of the book of

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<v Speaker 1>feminism and standpoint theory is a feminist theoretical perspective that

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<v Speaker 1>argues that knowledge stems from social position. That's important because well,

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<v Speaker 1>if you don't know, it doesn't sound like anything. But

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<v Speaker 1>if you break it down, knowledge stems from social position.

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<v Speaker 1>Think about that. You would think, as I would think,

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<v Speaker 1>that knowledge stems from academics. But where do academics come from.

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<v Speaker 1>Often academics come from means, privilege, access, et cetera. And

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<v Speaker 1>they cannot in a meaningful way articulate the reality and

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<v Speaker 1>solutions and approaches for people who have not they who

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<v Speaker 1>where they have not lived in their shoes. Right, So

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<v Speaker 1>this presupposes that your perspective is based on where you

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<v Speaker 1>are in society. Okay, so we have to accept that,

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<v Speaker 1>and I do believe that there is some truth there. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>this isn't I'm not purporting this to be a reality.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a theory that I believe works in helping us

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<v Speaker 1>expand our mental framework and how we choose to approach problems.

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<v Speaker 1>Like my friend asked me, how do we approach these

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<v Speaker 1>problems if you're not from that position? Maybe we could

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<v Speaker 1>listen to people from that position. This is the point

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to make, and I'll continue to make it here.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So the theory emerged from the Marxist Uh oh,

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<v Speaker 1>there's another one of those words that.

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<v Speaker 3>Our country, our government, our leaders have made taboo with

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<v Speaker 3>no context. You hear it, you think it's bad, and

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<v Speaker 3>that's it, thank you. There's no research, there's no studying,

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<v Speaker 3>there's no learning. That word is bad, just like socialists,

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<v Speaker 3>just like communists, just like and I'm not saying that

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<v Speaker 3>any of these words are good or bad. I'm just

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<v Speaker 3>saying there's an auto association with bad when we hear them, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>with no understanding of what they actually mean.

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<v Speaker 1>In principle. These things are all good in principle. In practice,

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<v Speaker 1>they all have their advantages and disadvantages, and indeed so

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<v Speaker 1>does capitalism.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and they've been classified the way that they have

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<v Speaker 3>been intentionally for people to not push back or question

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<v Speaker 3>the idea of capitalism, which is what we subscribe to, right,

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<v Speaker 3>what we subscribe to is better. Our religion, our class system,

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<v Speaker 3>our you know, way of government, our way of economics

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<v Speaker 3>is better. And to keep you guys from asking us

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<v Speaker 3>too many questions or wanting to venture into trying some

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<v Speaker 3>other way. We'll just make whole thing outright, We'll just

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<v Speaker 3>make all those other ways bad. And if we say

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<v Speaker 3>that they're bad enough times for long enough, you'll just

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<v Speaker 3>agree with us and never ask us any questions.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that's important. You know. I refer to

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<v Speaker 1>myself as a decadent capitalist pig from time to time

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<v Speaker 1>because I have a sports car and you know, live

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<v Speaker 1>in a decent part of town and have watches it

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<v Speaker 1>are more expensive than they need to be. But I

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<v Speaker 1>also recognize that I can live in this country and

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<v Speaker 1>be critical of certain parts of this country. That's not

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<v Speaker 1>to say that in socialist societies that people don't, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>accomplish great things. I'm a sharer by my very nature,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's a way to walk that line. But the

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<v Speaker 1>way things have been marketed to us in this country,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll admit that I've been you know, marketed to

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<v Speaker 1>as well, and I had to unlearn a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>things and relearn what I now know and the wise

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<v Speaker 1>of why I was taught what I was taught, so

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<v Speaker 1>that I didn't have to feel awful about myself. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have to feel like you know, there's only one

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<v Speaker 1>way to do things, and so I'm grateful for things

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<v Speaker 1>like this. I'm grateful for people like you. Was able

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<v Speaker 1>to articulate when I said, you know, I got to

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<v Speaker 1>Carl Marx's name, and I was like, oh, and he

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<v Speaker 1>jumped in there, because these things often are our emotions

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<v Speaker 1>are manipulated so that we continue to prop up the capitalists. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>and while I and all of us are capitalists, in practice,

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<v Speaker 1>the real capitalists are the ones who are really benefiting

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<v Speaker 1>from this society, and the people at the bottom of

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<v Speaker 1>the siety, of the people that their lives are ruined

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<v Speaker 1>because their mother is sick, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>and they have to you know, like that sort of

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<v Speaker 1>thing to keep those people from pushing back, from rebolting.

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<v Speaker 1>As I mentioned, you know, there's powerful forces that market

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<v Speaker 1>to us fear. You know. Jim Carey said something recently

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<v Speaker 1>and he's like, why is it that everyone in America

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<v Speaker 1>is afraid of the socialist healthcare that we have in Canada?

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<v Speaker 1>For those who don't know Jim Carrey's Canadian. He's like,

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<v Speaker 1>in my whole life, I've never waited in line, I've

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<v Speaker 1>never had to worry about anything all my medicine was

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<v Speaker 1>paid for. Why in the world, what is the point

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<v Speaker 1>of a government. What is the point of a government

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<v Speaker 1>if not to take care of things like this? And

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<v Speaker 1>in America we have this idea. The people on the

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<v Speaker 1>ground level are like, just do it yourselves. I got

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<v Speaker 1>I did it myself. You do it yourself. And we're

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<v Speaker 1>not caring for each other. And it's because we think

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<v Speaker 1>this is the only way that it has to be,

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<v Speaker 1>because we're afraid of doing it any other way, when

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<v Speaker 1>we literally have examples around the world where it's just.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not just fear, though, the intentional misinformation part counts, right.

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<v Speaker 3>They present that there was some politician and I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>leaving a name to be vague, I just don't remember

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<v Speaker 3>who it was. That their whole thing was, they're going.

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<v Speaker 1>To take your health care from you. Isn't that crazy?

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<v Speaker 3>And he was saying that about the people that were

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<v Speaker 3>trying to give you health care? Right, His argument was,

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<v Speaker 3>they're going to take away your choice for your own

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<v Speaker 3>health care provider that you have to pay for, which

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<v Speaker 3>isn't it to give you one for free, which isn't

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<v Speaker 3>strictly true. But even if that was absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>True, that make it seem like it's the worst thing.

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<v Speaker 3>The position that that way was very intentional, So it

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't just making people afraid, it's making people angry. Let's

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<v Speaker 3>tell them the wrong thing, but let's say it really

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<v Speaker 3>loud and really confidently, and they'll just accept it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, they're going to take this from you.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll say the rest of it, sir.

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<v Speaker 3>They're proposing making it something that you don't have to

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<v Speaker 3>go without.

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<v Speaker 1>I think this is the same thing that happened with

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<v Speaker 1>CRT or better said American History, teaching American history in

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<v Speaker 1>school again. I watched at Solano Elementary School in the

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<v Speaker 1>fourth grade, Roots all of them. For those who don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>there was this movie that came out or it was

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<v Speaker 1>like a TV document was in the docu series but

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<v Speaker 1>like a TV series. Yeah, five six episodes, eight episodes

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<v Speaker 1>something like that. It's called Roots and it starred Lvar

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<v Speaker 1>Burton from Reading Rainbow and star Trek Jordi LaForge my man. Anyway, Kinta.

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<v Speaker 1>We watched that in class and I was the kid

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<v Speaker 1>who was black on free lunch, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>And I didn't feel bad about watching that. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's I had to learn to be proud of it.

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<v Speaker 1>But I accepted it. I realized that it wasn't me.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a long time. It was fine, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>But now what has been sold to the public is

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<v Speaker 1>we need to protect our children from these, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>these radical thinkers. And so you know we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>get there. But I'll continue, I'll continue. The Syria emerged

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<v Speaker 1>from the Marxist argument that people from in a pressed

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<v Speaker 1>class have special access to knowledge that is not available

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<v Speaker 1>to those from a privileged class. I think that's absolutely true.

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<v Speaker 1>If you don't know what government cheese tastes like, if

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't have rats in your house, you didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>roaches in your house, There wasn't shooting outside of your

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<v Speaker 1>house two to three times a week. If you ain't

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<v Speaker 1>never seen it dead body in the street where you live.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't tell me about Compton because I was there.

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<v Speaker 1>You have no idea what it feels like, what it

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<v Speaker 1>feels like to think at age six, that the important

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<v Speaker 1>age is not eighteen, not twenty one, but twenty. The

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<v Speaker 1>important age is twenty. Why is that because the stories

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<v Speaker 1>you hear all the time at age six oh such

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<v Speaker 1>and such died he was only thirteen. She was only seventeen.

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<v Speaker 1>He was only nineteen teen teen teen, teen, teen teen,

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<v Speaker 1>So I thought, if I could just make it to twenty,

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<v Speaker 1>then I will have made it. Those of you that

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<v Speaker 1>can't seem to have a big old afar in my hair.

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<v Speaker 1>I started growing that afro when I turned twenty years old,

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<v Speaker 1>because I made it. I didn't live in Compton until

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<v Speaker 1>I was twenty, but that number stuck with me. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't start smoking cigarettes when I turned eighteen, never smoked

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<v Speaker 1>a cigarette. I didn't start drinking when I turned twenty one,

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<v Speaker 1>never drink alcohol in my life. For me, the important

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<v Speaker 1>age was twenty. Do you know what that feels like? Then?

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<v Speaker 1>How can you educate me? I need to educate you.

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<v Speaker 1>This standpoint theory, the presupposition is that you don't know everything.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to read this. The philosophy examines the nature

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<v Speaker 1>and origins of knowledge and stresses that knowledge is always

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<v Speaker 1>socially situated. Sandra Harding Grady where It's due coin the

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<v Speaker 1>term standpoint theory to categorize epistemologies that emphasize women's knowledge.

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<v Speaker 1>She argued that it is easy for those at the

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<v Speaker 1>top of social hierarchies to lose sight of real human

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<v Speaker 1>relations and the true nature of social reality, and thus

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<v Speaker 1>miss critical questions about the social and natural world in

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<v Speaker 1>their academic pursuits. In contrast, people at the bottom of

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<v Speaker 1>social hierarchies have a unique standpoint that is a better

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<v Speaker 1>starting point for scholarship. Although such people are often ignored,

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<v Speaker 1>their marginalized positions actually make it easier for them to

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<v Speaker 1>divine important research questions and explain social and natural problems.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to say this, Tony Morrison, the one we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about all our book span, had a masterful response

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<v Speaker 1>to an interviews like an early nineties interview was a

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<v Speaker 1>white woman interviewing her. The woman asks her, well, will

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<v Speaker 1>you ever write, sorry, will you ever write about white authors?

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<v Speaker 1>Can you ever conceive of a time when white authors

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<v Speaker 1>will make their way into your work? And she says,

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<v Speaker 1>I have done that. But more importantly, you have no

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<v Speaker 1>idea how racist a question like that is to me.

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<v Speaker 1>The interviewer looks perplexed, right, and you would think, well,

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<v Speaker 1>why is she saying? Why has everything got to be racist?

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<v Speaker 1>Here's what she says. Tony Morrison says to her, if

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<v Speaker 1>I was a white author, would you ask me that question?

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<v Speaker 1>When am I going to write about black people in

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<v Speaker 1>my books. Your question assumes that the norm, the status

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<v Speaker 1>quo is white, and therefore, by definition, is racist. It's

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<v Speaker 1>based on race. It's a eurocentric approach. You are the

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<v Speaker 1>center of the earth and I'm doing something that you cannot.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't feel centered in, and therefore somehow you need

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<v Speaker 1>to make it about you. And she didn't say that,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's effectually what was communicated. She was extremely pleasant,

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<v Speaker 1>she didn't raise her nothing. She had to play her

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<v Speaker 1>position rightfully, so she couldn't act the floor on TV.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that she would probably not her way.

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<v Speaker 1>But you start to understand where you are in society,

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<v Speaker 1>where you come from, in society where your vantage point

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<v Speaker 1>is absolutely informs your viewpoint. If you've been centered your

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<v Speaker 1>whole life, how can you speak about Compton, California and

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<v Speaker 1>shout out to the D one time, to the motor,

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<v Speaker 1>to the three one three. Right now, it's time for

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<v Speaker 1>the Way Black History Fact? That was Eabie. Today's Way

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<v Speaker 1>the truth not you know, the research is all out there,

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<v Speaker 1>but please read more about these people. We're going to

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<v Speaker 1>bring somebody to life that you may not have heard

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<v Speaker 1>of before. She is the woman who came before Rosa Parks.

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<v Speaker 1>That'll make sense. I'm not talking about Rosa Parks mom,

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the pioneer. Yeah, her name is Elizabeth Jennings Graham.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll read Elizabeth Jennings Graham, Mark eighteen thirty through June fifth,

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen oh one. That means she lived during a hard time.

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<v Speaker 1>It was an African American teacher and civil rights figure.

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<v Speaker 1>In eighteen fifty four, Graham insisted on her right to

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<v Speaker 1>ride on an available New York City street car at

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<v Speaker 1>a time when all such companies were private and most

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<v Speaker 1>operated segregated cars. Her case was decided in her favor

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<v Speaker 1>in eighteen fifty five, and it led to the eventual

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<v Speaker 1>desegregation of all New York City transit systems by eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>sixty five. Graham later started the city's first kindergarten for

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<v Speaker 1>African American children, operating it from her home on two

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<v Speaker 1>forty seven West forty first Street until her death in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen oh one. By the eighteen fifties, the horse drawn

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<v Speaker 1>street car on rails became a more common mode of transportation,

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<v Speaker 1>competing with the horse drawn omnibus in the city. Elevated

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<v Speaker 1>heavy rail trans insprotation did not go into service in

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<v Speaker 1>New York until eighteen sixty nine. Like the nearly obsolete

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<v Speaker 1>omnibus lines, the street cars were owned by private companies

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<v Speaker 1>which regularly barred access to their service on the basis

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<v Speaker 1>of race. The owners and drivers could easily refuse service

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<v Speaker 1>to passengers of African descent or demand racially segregated seating.

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<v Speaker 1>On Sunday, July sixteenth, eighteen fifty four, Jennings went to

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<v Speaker 1>the First Colored Congregational Church, where she was an organist.

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<v Speaker 1>As she was running late, she boarded a streetcar of

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<v Speaker 1>the Third Avenue Railroad Company at the corner of Pearl

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<v Speaker 1>Street in Chatham Street. I think that's why I say

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<v Speaker 1>that the conductor ordered her to get off. When she refused,

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<v Speaker 1>the conductor tried to remove her by force. Eventually, with

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<v Speaker 1>the aid of a police officer, Jennings was ejected from

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<v Speaker 1>the street car. Horace Greeley's New York Tribune commented on

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<v Speaker 1>the incident. In February eighteen fifty five. She got upon

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<v Speaker 1>one of the company's car ours last summer on the

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<v Speaker 1>sabbath to ride to church. The conductor undertook to get

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<v Speaker 1>her off, first, alleging the car was full. When that

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<v Speaker 1>was shown to be false, he pretended the other passengers

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<v Speaker 1>were displeased at her presence, but when she insisted on

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<v Speaker 1>her rights, he took hold of her by force to

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<v Speaker 1>expel her. She resisted. The conductor got her down on

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<v Speaker 1>the platform, jammed her bonnet, soiled her dress, and injured

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<v Speaker 1>her person. Quite a crowd gathered, but she effectually resisted. Finally,

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<v Speaker 1>after the car had gone on further, with the aid

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<v Speaker 1>of a policeman, they succeeded in removing her. The incident

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<v Speaker 1>sparked an organized movement among black New Yorkers to end

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<v Speaker 1>racial discrimination on street cars, led by notables such as

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<v Speaker 1>Jennings's father, Reverend James W. C. Pennington, and Reverend Henry

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<v Speaker 1>Hyland Barnett. Her story was publicized by Frederick Douglass in

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<v Speaker 1>his newspaper, and it received national attention. Jennings's father filed

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<v Speaker 1>the lawsuit on behalf of his daughter against the driver,

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<v Speaker 1>the conductor, and the Third Avenue Railroad Company in Brooklyn,

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<v Speaker 1>where the Third Avenue Company was headquartered. This was one

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<v Speaker 1>of four street car companies franchised in the city and

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<v Speaker 1>had been in operation for about one year. She was

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<v Speaker 1>represented by the law firm of Culver, Parker and Arthur.

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<v Speaker 1>Her case was handled by the firm's twenty four year

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<v Speaker 1>old junior partner, Chester A. Arthur, future President of the

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<v Speaker 1>United States in eighteen fifty five. The court ruled in

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<v Speaker 1>her favor and is charged to the jury. Brooklyn Circuit

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<v Speaker 1>Court Judge William Rockwell declared colored persons, if sober, well

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<v Speaker 1>behaved and free from disease, had the same rights as others,

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<v Speaker 1>and could be neither excluded by any rules of the company,

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<v Speaker 1>nor by force or violence. The jury awarded Jennings damages

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<v Speaker 1>in the amount of two hundred and fifty dollars, which

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<v Speaker 1>is the equivalent of seventy three hundred dollars in today's money,

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<v Speaker 1>as well as twenty two dollars and fifty cents in costs.

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<v Speaker 1>The next day, the Third Avenue Railroad Company orders ordered

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<v Speaker 1>its cars desecret As important as the Jennings case was,

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<v Speaker 1>it did not mean that all street car lines would desegregate.

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<v Speaker 1>Leading African American activists formed the New York Legal Rights

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<v Speaker 1>Association to continue the fight. In May eighteen fifty five,

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<v Speaker 1>James W. P. Penning W. C. Pennington Sorry brought suit

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<v Speaker 1>after being forcefully removed from the car of the eighth

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<v Speaker 1>Avenue Railroad, another of the first four companies. After steps

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<v Speaker 1>forward and back a decade later, in eighteen sixty five,

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<v Speaker 1>New York's public transit services were fully desegregated. The last

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<v Speaker 1>case was a challenge by a black woman named Ella Anderson.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for listening. These are names you need to

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<v Speaker 1>know because these people fought and it's important to say

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<v Speaker 1>their names. So Ella Anderson, a widow of a fallen

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<v Speaker 1>United States Colored Troops soldier, a fact that won public

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<v Speaker 1>support for her all right. On January TEWOD twenty eighteen,

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<v Speaker 1>jennings first biography was published, written by Amy Hill Hurt,

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<v Speaker 1>entitled Street Card g Justice. How Elizabeth Jennings Won the

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<v Speaker 1>Right to Ride in New York and intended for middle

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<v Speaker 1>grade to adult readers. The book was published by HarperCollins

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<v Speaker 1>Greenwillow Books in New York. Jerry Mcarinda authored America's First

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<v Speaker 1>Freedom Writer, Elizabeth Jennings Chester a Arthured and the Early

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<v Speaker 1>Fight for Civil Rights, about the legal fight which arose

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<v Speaker 1>from her Forcible Removal Out of the street Car published

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<v Speaker 1>in December tween nineteen by Rowan in Littlefield, And in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty nineteen, Shelaine McCrae announced that New York City would

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<v Speaker 1>build a statue honoring Graham NewYork Graham Central Terminal. So,

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<v Speaker 1>like we said, you know, it's important for us to

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<v Speaker 1>discuss have any excellence, because that's important. We get an

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<v Speaker 1>hour with you every week. You're probably on a station

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<v Speaker 1>that uses black culture in a meaningful way, and if

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<v Speaker 1>nothing else, in a profitable way. Yes, and even if

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<v Speaker 1>that's not the case, we appreciate our hour with you.

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<v Speaker 1>We realize that that's that's not nothing. And in that

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<v Speaker 1>time we have to make you smile, we have to

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<v Speaker 1>make you think, and we also have to acknowledge that

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<v Speaker 1>we are a lot of people recently have tried to

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<v Speaker 1>make us in the heroes, and we look back and

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<v Speaker 1>we see our heroes and we see real heroes. We

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<v Speaker 1>see people like this No Elizabeth Jennings, Graham, Ella Anderson.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. So the way black history fact is very

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<v Speaker 1>important too. It's a very important segment and an important

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<v Speaker 1>part of our clock. We appreciate the opportunity we have

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<v Speaker 1>to share this stuff with you, and I'm not going

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<v Speaker 1>to sit here and pretend like I knew all this stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm learning with you and many and we learned a

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<v Speaker 1>lot from this segment. We do know, but a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of it we're learning in real time with you. So

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<v Speaker 1>uh so, yeah, not as heavy of a show as

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<v Speaker 1>we normally have, but hopefully made some impact. That's about

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<v Speaker 1>it for us here on Civic Sipher. So once again,

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<v Speaker 1>i'm your host, Ramsy's.

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<v Speaker 3>we appreciate you guys, really doesn't say enough. Yeah, man,

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<v Speaker 3>you're if you're here with this and you're trying to

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<v Speaker 3>learn and trying to do better and trying to expand

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<v Speaker 3>your way of thinking, that's something I won't even say.

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<v Speaker 3>That's not nothing. That's something special, you know, And we're

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to figure it out together, right, that's the mission.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah man, And same as Cheryl or what said I

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<v Speaker 1>won't know say her name, but the same as same

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<v Speaker 1>as my friend Cheryl. We're all learning together and we're

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<v Speaker 1>all going to build something special I believe and it

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