WEBVTT - 7. They Call Me Juice 0:00:02.840 --> 0:00:05.560 So there's this video and you're seeing the inside of 0:00:05.559 --> 0:00:09.320 a Nissan Altimo with a black leather interior. In the 0:00:09.360 --> 0:00:12.280 center console you can see a water bottle, keys, and 0:00:12.320 --> 0:00:14.880 a cell phone. And you can also see the right 0:00:14.960 --> 0:00:17.920 arm of the driver who's holding the camera. He's got 0:00:18.000 --> 0:00:21.239 an intricate sleeve tattoo. In the center is the symbol 0:00:21.280 --> 0:00:23.800 for the one hundred and eighty seventh Airborne, the famous 0:00:23.880 --> 0:00:26.520 US Army unit whose history dates back to World War Two. 0:00:27.360 --> 0:00:29.920 The air conditioner is at full blast. It's in the 0:00:30.000 --> 0:00:34.440 nineties today in Denver. You see seven seven seventy five 0:00:35.400 --> 0:00:41.320 in Denver, Colorado. Today is August twenty five, approximately two 0:00:41.360 --> 0:00:45.159 fifty pm. The man you're hearing is an FBI undercover 0:00:45.240 --> 0:00:49.280 agent number seven seven seven five. U SEE is the 0:00:49.320 --> 0:00:54.680 FBI's acronym for undercover employee. This FBI guy, he's going 0:00:54.720 --> 0:00:57.120 by the nickname Red. I don't know his real name. 0:00:57.720 --> 0:01:00.800 What happened a few minutes into the recording, Mickey walks 0:01:00.840 --> 0:01:03.560 up to the Nissan Ultima. Red rolls down his window 0:01:03.960 --> 0:01:07.160 and he notices Mickey's broken finger. Where'd you do that thing? 0:01:07.600 --> 0:01:09.800 I would to sturge you, some fucking drunk driver hid 0:01:10.680 --> 0:01:15.840 on his fucking wife, just cutting my handlebars. Mickey then 0:01:15.920 --> 0:01:19.120 walks over to his car and read sitting in the 0:01:19.200 --> 0:01:22.960 Ultima seems to think Mickey looks ridiculous. As he gets 0:01:22.959 --> 0:01:30.839 behind the wheel of a silver hearse ohly shit. Red 0:01:30.880 --> 0:01:36.759 then follows Mickey. He's listening to the radio as he drives. 0:01:42.880 --> 0:01:45.440 A few minutes later, Red pulls into the parking lot 0:01:45.720 --> 0:01:49.160 of a TGI Friday's. Mickey walks up to him again. 0:01:50.280 --> 0:01:53.120 He's pretty laid back. He's trying to pump in. You'll 0:01:53.160 --> 0:02:02.960 see he's kind of mental in some fucking ways. Mickey 0:02:03.040 --> 0:02:06.080 means Bryce Shelby, the activist with the vague plot to 0:02:06.120 --> 0:02:10.520 assassinate Colorado as Attorney General. Mickey's about to introduce Bryce 0:02:11.000 --> 0:02:15.239 to Red, the friend he'd been talking about, the outlaw biker, 0:02:16.320 --> 0:02:21.760 the no fuck around guy. I'm Trevor Aaronson from Western 0:02:21.800 --> 0:02:48.760 Sound and I Heeart podcasts. This is Alphabet Boys, episode seven. 0:02:49.639 --> 0:02:59.079 They call me Juice. Mickey Windecker, the FBI's informant, has 0:02:59.080 --> 0:03:03.079 his sights on two targets, zeb Hall and Bryce Shelby. 0:03:03.720 --> 0:03:06.079 He tried to roll them up over lunch at Famous 0:03:06.160 --> 0:03:10.320 Daves into a single conspiracy, but zeb had said he's 0:03:10.360 --> 0:03:15.560 not ready. So now in this episode, Mickey's going after Bryce, 0:03:16.320 --> 0:03:20.040 just Bryce. Before we get there. I just want to 0:03:20.040 --> 0:03:22.880 remind you of the timeline. It's a bit confusing since 0:03:23.040 --> 0:03:26.000 so much happens over the span of one week. The 0:03:26.040 --> 0:03:28.760 attacks on the police buildings in Denver the ones Mickey 0:03:28.800 --> 0:03:32.079 hyped up, they happened from August twenty second to August 0:03:32.120 --> 0:03:38.920 twenty ninth, twenty twenty. At the beginning of that week, 0:03:39.160 --> 0:03:42.200 Mickey invited zeb Hall and Bryce Shelby to lunch at 0:03:42.200 --> 0:03:46.240 a famous Dave's Barbecue restaurant. That's when Bryce discusses with 0:03:46.320 --> 0:03:50.160 Mickey an idea to target Colorado's Attorney general. So you're 0:03:50.240 --> 0:03:56.440 thinking for sure they're the eight gene Yeah right, and 0:03:56.560 --> 0:04:00.720 zeb offers crazy talk about navigating Denver sewers at the 0:04:00.920 --> 0:04:05.560 weeks before days happened, they're always by the always buy Yeah. 0:04:06.120 --> 0:04:08.760 After this meeting, Mickey had gone up to his FBI handler, 0:04:09.040 --> 0:04:12.800 agent Scott Dahlstrom, and suggested that Bryce was serious about 0:04:12.800 --> 0:04:19.520 an assassination plot. Trony generals your target. So that's the timeline. 0:04:20.279 --> 0:04:24.320 Now it's August twenty fifth, a Tuesday, and we're at 0:04:24.320 --> 0:04:28.760 a TGI Friday's Mickey is planning to introduce Bryce to Red, 0:04:29.520 --> 0:04:33.680 the friend you'd been talking about, the no fuck around guy. 0:04:34.760 --> 0:04:37.800 Before Bryce arrives at the restaurant, Mickey and Red are 0:04:37.839 --> 0:04:41.720 there with another demonstrator named Mark, who knows Bryce from 0:04:41.720 --> 0:04:45.400 the protest scene, and Mickey is describing how he knows Red, 0:04:45.920 --> 0:04:50.479 which is of course a bullshit story no one read 0:04:50.520 --> 0:04:53.320 for like a decade. We met at seventy sturgeonies, because 0:04:53.320 --> 0:04:55.839 it's ten years now, so it's like eighty. I saw 0:04:55.880 --> 0:04:57.440 him again, like a couple of weeks ago, and it 0:04:57.520 --> 0:05:01.960 was a girl, because like the Special Force community is 0:05:02.000 --> 0:05:04.400 like very small, even though like you know, Kurdish like that, 0:05:04.640 --> 0:05:06.919 you're still talking film and something that I hate to 0:05:06.920 --> 0:05:08.120 say it, but I had to check on him. And 0:05:08.440 --> 0:05:10.000 a couple other guys from the Fifth were like, yeah, 0:05:10.000 --> 0:05:11.480 we know boot me as he's cool as a high 0:05:11.520 --> 0:05:14.560 pre and I just wanted to make sure because he's 0:05:14.560 --> 0:05:17.240 something that's a good qualtro, he's got something, He's got 0:05:17.279 --> 0:05:21.400 some top notch shit, So okay, I just want to 0:05:21.440 --> 0:05:24.800 highlight the absurdity here for a minute. Mickey the guy 0:05:24.839 --> 0:05:26.880 who got booted out of the Peshmerga, and I Rock 0:05:27.080 --> 0:05:29.840 for being a fraud and a liability to the fighters there. 0:05:30.360 --> 0:05:33.680 It's claiming to have been in the Peshmerga's special forces, 0:05:34.640 --> 0:05:37.880 and that's where he met others in the special forces community, 0:05:38.200 --> 0:05:43.680 including apparently Rhett, a retired American soldier. Mickey says he's 0:05:43.680 --> 0:05:46.320 called around to his special Forces contacts and they all 0:05:46.400 --> 0:05:49.960 vouch for Rhet, who Mickey says, has quote some top 0:05:50.040 --> 0:05:53.680 notch shit, and what he means by top not shit is, 0:05:53.920 --> 0:05:57.480 of course weapons. Anything you guys are going to do. 0:05:57.520 --> 0:06:02.760 I mean, I know their price is like plans exactly, 0:06:03.160 --> 0:06:08.600 but yeah, yeah, absolutely. But he's unfortunately I'm not in 0:06:08.760 --> 0:06:13.800 operational because the probably amputain motherfucker. Mickey's talking about his 0:06:13.800 --> 0:06:16.680 broken finger again. That'll suck. If you lose that, then, 0:06:16.880 --> 0:06:18.720 oh man, I'll be mad as fun because I gotta 0:06:18.800 --> 0:06:20.839 like I'm to be like one of the prosthetic three 0:06:20.960 --> 0:06:23.720 print ones on there. And it's not like shifting my 0:06:23.760 --> 0:06:31.120 little Captain book, but my nosepicker, my twat rab. A 0:06:31.160 --> 0:06:37.200 few minutes later, Bryce arrives, what's up. What's you up too? Fine? 0:06:37.240 --> 0:06:45.120 It's good for me right on. So the dairy man Bryce, 0:06:45.240 --> 0:06:48.160 this is much red. This is Bryce Juice man, they 0:06:48.200 --> 0:06:53.960 call me Juice. Juice, right, yeah, Bryce tells the FBI 0:06:54.040 --> 0:06:58.520 undercover agent his nickname is Juice. They call me Juice. 0:06:58.720 --> 0:07:06.719 He says, yeah, let me get a strawberry lemonade. Mickey 0:07:06.720 --> 0:07:09.800 then starts telling Bryce about his friend Red and how 0:07:09.840 --> 0:07:12.840 his fellow members of the Special Forces community vouch for him. 0:07:13.400 --> 0:07:17.000 Leg all your ship you want to do, that's my boy, 0:07:17.040 --> 0:07:23.640 that's good. I'm just gonna help your drinking. I don't 0:07:23.640 --> 0:07:26.000 even know what the fuck we're fighting. I just know 0:07:26.280 --> 0:07:32.920 that these people that run shit are not for us. 0:07:32.960 --> 0:07:37.960 I'm some regular Joe civilian, but if I need to 0:07:37.960 --> 0:07:41.239 see this coming, I'm not just gonna stand by my family. 0:07:41.280 --> 0:07:45.520 That could be next. I got the district attorney's address. 0:07:47.040 --> 0:07:53.360 This does an I keep voiceing the attorney. Bryce is 0:07:53.400 --> 0:07:57.520 still confusing the two positions, the two different elected officials, 0:07:58.120 --> 0:08:02.600 the district attorney and the attorney general. Red and Mickey 0:08:02.680 --> 0:08:05.320 asked Bryce if he's been to the address, So you 0:08:05.360 --> 0:08:11.040 went check it out, so but have you have you? 0:08:11.120 --> 0:08:15.920 Have you been in it? Have? I just like neighborhood itself, 0:08:16.000 --> 0:08:19.840 like it looks pretty quiet. So it's really a matter 0:08:19.840 --> 0:08:23.360 of what time did this motherfucker get home because nobody's outside, 0:08:24.960 --> 0:08:28.240 or you just hear some pops, we're going, okay, neighborhood 0:08:29.560 --> 0:08:33.000 cheating neighborhood, like one of them in close kind of 0:08:33.040 --> 0:08:35.679 in neighborhoods. You know a lot of the streets like 0:08:35.880 --> 0:08:42.719 not no gates, no gates help. So I'm just thinking, 0:08:42.760 --> 0:08:46.320 I don't know, like I would like to get multiple 0:08:46.360 --> 0:08:48.679 people at one time, but obvious, so you gotta keep 0:08:48.720 --> 0:08:51.439 this small, you know what I mean. So it's like, 0:08:53.120 --> 0:08:55.400 who's the who's somebody we can we can get this. 0:08:55.720 --> 0:08:58.000 This motherfucker is the one overseeing all these cases, you 0:08:58.080 --> 0:09:00.599 know what I mean. So this, my fucker is the 0:09:00.679 --> 0:09:05.920 one overseeing all these cases. Bryce says, again he's confusing 0:09:06.000 --> 0:09:11.480 the two offices. The Attorney General isn't prosecuting demonstrators, that's 0:09:11.520 --> 0:09:15.280 the district attorney. Nobody knows they're here beside me and him. 0:09:15.440 --> 0:09:17.679 All right. None of my people from my circles, None 0:09:17.679 --> 0:09:19.400 of my people is circled that I know. I like, 0:09:19.520 --> 0:09:22.480 she tow somebody even I didn't know. I don't know 0:09:22.480 --> 0:09:26.120 about compartmentalize basis I ganged banks. You're like, that's what 0:09:26.240 --> 0:09:29.120 this is? Another mission me? But on this Red suggested 0:09:29.160 --> 0:09:32.719 Bryce that they take a drive to scout out the 0:09:32.800 --> 0:09:38.320 Attorney General's house. All right, well, I think we got 0:09:38.400 --> 0:09:41.679 to roll by it. Okay, I got the hand crash. 0:09:41.720 --> 0:09:44.000 I mean, if you're good with it, you're called. But 0:09:47.000 --> 0:09:49.640 see what the options are at that point. Right. A 0:09:49.720 --> 0:09:52.920 few minutes later, Mickey leaves, saying he has somewhere else 0:09:52.960 --> 0:09:56.439 to be. Now Bryson Red can talk about Mickey without 0:09:56.559 --> 0:09:59.920 him hearing. Bryce asked Red if he and Mickey had 0:10:00.000 --> 0:10:03.920 serve together, not directly with them. No, we met here, 0:10:04.040 --> 0:10:07.200 but I spent twenty years in the military, spent eleven 0:10:07.280 --> 0:10:11.320 years overseas. Thank you for your shirt? What bridge? Red 0:10:11.679 --> 0:10:15.320 then shift the conversation back to the plot to murder 0:10:15.679 --> 0:10:20.400 the Attorney general. I mean, I think what you were saying, 0:10:20.520 --> 0:10:22.959 I think you can accomplish that goal, whether than a 0:10:23.040 --> 0:10:28.640 man that would allow you to be somewhere the next 0:10:28.720 --> 0:10:33.920 day versus brine, and then you can continue to be 0:10:35.080 --> 0:10:42.199 who you want to be, not somebody's right, right exactly. 0:10:43.240 --> 0:10:47.240 That's my nickname. That's my nickname. They called me juid. 0:10:48.240 --> 0:10:52.600 I didn't pull that on the pass. There's a way 0:10:52.640 --> 0:10:56.400 to pull this off, Red says, and not splatter your 0:10:56.720 --> 0:11:02.160 juice on the wall. Rice likes the joke anyway. Bryce 0:11:02.320 --> 0:11:05.600 is adamant that he's serious about all this, but he's 0:11:05.600 --> 0:11:09.800 still confusing the title of the guy he is supposedly 0:11:10.600 --> 0:11:14.400 plotting to assassinate. How is this going to change? Will 0:11:14.440 --> 0:11:17.600 people understand what happened? Well, they just hired another da 0:11:18.240 --> 0:11:21.559 back to the old ways, right. Red tells Bryce that 0:11:21.640 --> 0:11:24.800 he's here to help because Mickey asked him to help. 0:11:26.640 --> 0:11:31.959 That's why he called me. Yeah right, that's why I'm here, Guessa. 0:11:32.160 --> 0:11:38.160 I am a favor here it is, but the favorite 0:11:38.160 --> 0:11:41.600 Bryce really wants. The reason it seems he even took 0:11:41.679 --> 0:11:44.360 this meeting is to find someone to fix his rifle, 0:11:44.880 --> 0:11:46.719 which has a bullet jammed in it. Would you mind 0:11:46.760 --> 0:11:52.240 looking at my rifle? Bro? That's what I do every day, alright, 0:11:52.360 --> 0:11:55.400 That's all. That's all I need to That's about here, bro, Hu, 0:11:55.600 --> 0:12:00.480 That's that's really it for me. I'm I'll go all try, 0:12:01.360 --> 0:12:05.640 nobody try. That's really it for me. Bryce is telling 0:12:05.679 --> 0:12:08.880 Red that's all he wants, fix my rifle and I'll 0:12:08.920 --> 0:12:12.319 go kill the guy myself. Red, not wanting Bryce to 0:12:12.360 --> 0:12:15.280 go on his own, suggest instead that they plan this 0:12:15.360 --> 0:12:21.400 thing together. You gotta think about your like you gotta 0:12:21.440 --> 0:12:23.800 give it some thought, and not in terms of I'm 0:12:23.840 --> 0:12:26.440 not arguing with you in terms of your endgame. I'm 0:12:27.080 --> 0:12:31.079 saying you gotta give it some thought as to the 0:12:31.160 --> 0:12:38.319 how I think we ought to take a ride and 0:12:38.480 --> 0:12:43.959 just go see there's no harm in that. Red suggests 0:12:44.000 --> 0:12:47.040 that he and Bryce drive to the Attorney General's house 0:12:48.000 --> 0:12:59.839 to scope it out more. After the break, he was 0:13:00.520 --> 0:13:02.920 basically asked me, like, would be my plan? How would 0:13:02.960 --> 0:13:04.120 I do it? And shit like that, and I was 0:13:04.200 --> 0:13:06.760 really just saying, like movie shit, cut his lights off, 0:13:06.880 --> 0:13:09.600 kicking the door. I'm not I don't got no real 0:13:09.640 --> 0:13:12.480 fucking plan to do this. Shit. This is Bryce Shelby. 0:13:13.000 --> 0:13:15.680 I've asked him about his conversation with the FBI undercover 0:13:15.760 --> 0:13:19.440 agent Red and his supposed plot to kill Colorado as 0:13:19.440 --> 0:13:22.480 attorney general, whom Bryce kept getting mixed up with the 0:13:22.520 --> 0:13:26.760 district attorney. I'm not sitting in my fucking room writing 0:13:26.840 --> 0:13:32.200 up fucking a damn blueprint and what the fuck I'm 0:13:32.520 --> 0:13:37.760 I don't even know who the nigga was. So I 0:13:37.800 --> 0:13:40.679 think a listener would say, like, well, why did you 0:13:40.720 --> 0:13:50.480 talk about it? I guess I don't know. That's just 0:13:50.559 --> 0:13:52.920 how you feel at a moment like, I'm gonna kill 0:13:52.960 --> 0:13:55.440 that motherfucker. You've said that about a lot of people 0:13:55.480 --> 0:13:58.280 that pisched you off in life listeners. You ain't never 0:13:58.360 --> 0:14:02.439 killed him for real, have you. This assassination plot, though, 0:14:02.880 --> 0:14:06.160 ends up being a little more than talk. Bryce had 0:14:06.160 --> 0:14:08.760 the Attorney General's home address. He said he got it 0:14:08.840 --> 0:14:12.360 from another demonstrator who, trying to be provocative, had read 0:14:12.360 --> 0:14:14.760 off a bunch of elected officials home addresses during a speech. 0:14:15.679 --> 0:14:19.480 So Red, the undercover agent, suggest they drive out to 0:14:19.520 --> 0:14:22.480 the house, maybe come up with a more concrete plan. 0:14:23.520 --> 0:14:27.200 Bryce agrees to go on the right over. They keep 0:14:27.240 --> 0:14:32.000 talking and Bryce is acting like a tough guy. So 0:14:32.120 --> 0:14:38.560 what are you thinking? I guess. I mean, let's let's 0:14:38.560 --> 0:14:39.840 just put it this way. If you could have it 0:14:39.880 --> 0:14:45.000 any way, you want just chest that motherfucker hopping out 0:14:45.040 --> 0:14:49.080 of his car, Because originally I was thinking set the 0:14:49.160 --> 0:14:51.040 power off and come through the window or something like that, 0:14:51.120 --> 0:14:54.120 and should you're talking about Rambo, Yeah, But then I 0:14:54.200 --> 0:14:57.040 got to thinking that's too much shit. I got a 0:14:57.120 --> 0:14:59.560 big gass rifle, I got a hold, I gotta you 0:14:59.640 --> 0:15:00.960 know what I mean, And that's what I'm thinking. I 0:15:01.040 --> 0:15:03.680 think about back back to like forensics, tracing and shit 0:15:03.840 --> 0:15:07.560 like that, versus not getting none of that ship on 0:15:07.720 --> 0:15:12.880 you at all. Motherfucker, hop out the car, you know 0:15:12.880 --> 0:15:16.240 what I mean? Popping bam. I'm still talking about forensics 0:15:16.320 --> 0:15:19.400 right there. Yeah, but that's a lot less forensics. So 0:15:20.520 --> 0:15:24.080 I see what he's saying. The FBI agent is being 0:15:24.120 --> 0:15:27.760 generous here for the sake of the undercover sting. Bryce 0:15:27.880 --> 0:15:32.640 is talking a bunch of nonsense as far as like, actually, 0:15:32.680 --> 0:15:36.000 just body niggas up, like nah, that that day in 0:15:36.120 --> 0:15:40.240 my phone. You're trying to hurt me though, while I 0:15:40.240 --> 0:15:43.000 would mind him my own business, all right, Yeah, now okay, 0:15:43.760 --> 0:15:47.280 you're gonna see about you here in one second. Bryce 0:15:47.360 --> 0:15:50.480 then begins to describe to Red how he wasn't interested 0:15:50.520 --> 0:15:54.240 in any sort of violence when he first started protesting Mickey, 0:15:54.760 --> 0:15:58.400 he says, pushed him in that direction, and when I 0:15:58.520 --> 0:16:00.240 met Mickey, yeah, that was like that was like the 0:16:00.320 --> 0:16:02.280 first thing he said. He was like, He's like, we're 0:16:02.280 --> 0:16:06.000 at the impast. A lot of people like thought he 0:16:06.120 --> 0:16:08.600 was a complicate and they made him start talking. Then 0:16:08.680 --> 0:16:13.800 he pulled out his fucking prison. I d like, yeah, 0:16:13.800 --> 0:16:16.880 there's that no cab for sure. Red then ass price 0:16:17.040 --> 0:16:19.200 what he knows about the guy whose house they're driving too. 0:16:20.160 --> 0:16:24.240 What do you know about this guy's attorney general? Because 0:16:24.440 --> 0:16:30.160 all this family M I think he has. I think 0:16:30.200 --> 0:16:38.200 he has one kid and a wife, but that might 0:16:38.320 --> 0:16:40.520 be his Those might just be relative, you know, like 0:16:40.600 --> 0:16:44.600 on voter registration it doesn't say who's what. Yeah, I 0:16:44.720 --> 0:16:47.760 think he has one kid and a wife. I don't 0:16:47.800 --> 0:16:56.760 know how all this kid is either healthy forty me 0:16:56.880 --> 0:16:59.800 in too early forties, early to me and forties. Like 0:16:59.800 --> 0:17:09.200 I say, when's he granting office? About four years? I 0:17:09.320 --> 0:17:14.920 want to save about forty years. Okay, I want to 0:17:14.960 --> 0:17:19.400 pause for a minute, because Bryce he gets almost everything 0:17:19.480 --> 0:17:22.159 wrong about Colorado as attorney general at the time a 0:17:22.200 --> 0:17:25.840 guy named phil Wiser. Phil Weiser is married, that much 0:17:25.920 --> 0:17:29.879 is true, but he has two children, not one. At 0:17:29.920 --> 0:17:32.920 the time Bryce and Red are having this conversation, Wiser 0:17:33.080 --> 0:17:35.520 is fifty two years old, not in his early to 0:17:35.600 --> 0:17:39.080 mid forties, and he was elected in twenty eighteen, and 0:17:39.600 --> 0:17:42.080 as this conversation is happening, has been in office for 0:17:42.200 --> 0:17:45.760 less than two years, not as Bryce says, four or 0:17:45.800 --> 0:17:51.000 five years. Anyway, back to the car ride, So the 0:17:51.160 --> 0:17:56.159 question I asked earlier, in a perfect situation, what happens 0:17:58.320 --> 0:18:05.359 he hops out the car. I'd say maybe about huntey 0:18:05.440 --> 0:18:09.600 yards away if that, If we could park somewhere close 0:18:09.640 --> 0:18:12.240 to that, great If not. I ain't worried about this 0:18:12.440 --> 0:18:14.280 kind of neighborhood. Like I said, it's trees and shit 0:18:14.400 --> 0:18:17.800 like that. So you know what I mean, You could 0:18:17.840 --> 0:18:20.520 do a nice little sprint before anybody ever sees anything. 0:18:24.080 --> 0:18:29.240 Gotta figure everybody's got cameras. Yeah, yeah, But you know 0:18:29.320 --> 0:18:31.520 I'm saying a purposely joys in the mount up the car. 0:18:32.920 --> 0:18:36.719 He's getting his briefcase in the backseat or whatever. Light 0:18:36.800 --> 0:18:40.480 him up a couple of times. Ain't for the head, God, 0:18:40.640 --> 0:18:47.000 damn it, Jesus Rice. This is about when they pull 0:18:47.040 --> 0:18:49.240 into the neighborhood. We pulled in front of it. We 0:18:49.280 --> 0:18:51.639 pulled in front of the school actually, and sat in 0:18:51.680 --> 0:18:54.520 the park a lot, I don't know, hundred hundred fifty 0:18:54.600 --> 0:18:57.879 yards away from the house. Bryceon Red are looking at 0:18:57.880 --> 0:19:08.000 the house. I don't know. You think I figure out 0:19:08.040 --> 0:19:12.680 his schedule. I'm gonna have to come by here with 0:19:13.200 --> 0:19:19.000 um all right, with my home gro see if I 0:19:19.080 --> 0:19:23.520 think if you think you're gonna sit outside here catch 0:19:23.640 --> 0:19:29.119 him leaving. I don't know, bro about coming home. You 0:19:29.200 --> 0:19:33.880 gotta figure comes home. He does this, The garage door 0:19:34.000 --> 0:19:37.439 goes up, he drives inside, he does this, the garage 0:19:37.480 --> 0:19:45.840 door goes down. Mhm. I mean I think there's a 0:19:46.000 --> 0:19:54.600 better chance of accomplishing your goal with something else, right, 0:19:56.800 --> 0:20:00.280 I mean, not like here. Yeah, I just think you 0:20:00.359 --> 0:20:05.720 can get the thing done and get out. Mick told me, 0:20:05.960 --> 0:20:08.520 and correct and maybe he's wrong, but he told me 0:20:08.640 --> 0:20:11.200 that one of your big concerns was making sure you 0:20:11.240 --> 0:20:18.399 did Yeah. Of course, So to fight another day. I 0:20:18.480 --> 0:20:20.480 want to see the results of if this worked or not, 0:20:20.680 --> 0:20:25.760 of course. Yeah. I'm about to figure out what car 0:20:25.840 --> 0:20:31.120 he what his car drives, and to see where he's 0:20:31.240 --> 0:20:32.760 you know, I mean where he goes from a day 0:20:32.760 --> 0:20:36.000 to day basis, you know what I mean. Trail him. 0:20:36.040 --> 0:20:37.840 I'm at to trail him. I was. I wasn't gonna 0:20:37.840 --> 0:20:39.840 start doing any this until I got back in town 0:20:39.920 --> 0:20:44.840 from Kentucky. At this point, while he's talking like some hitman, 0:20:45.800 --> 0:20:49.560 Bryce is backing out. Ever so subtly. He says he 0:20:49.600 --> 0:20:53.680 can't do anything soon because he'll be traveling. So Red 0:20:53.760 --> 0:20:58.680 suggests another possibility. He's got connections. They could hire someone 0:20:58.840 --> 0:21:01.720 to kill the attorney general. You know, it's going to 0:21:01.800 --> 0:21:03.920 cause something to put it together, That's all I'm saying. 0:21:05.240 --> 0:21:13.880 What are we looking at? Figure wise? Fix bucks? Yeah, 0:21:14.600 --> 0:21:20.280 I figured somewhere in there. Red and Bryce then drive 0:21:20.359 --> 0:21:24.200 back to the TGI Fridays where Bryce's cars parked. On 0:21:24.320 --> 0:21:28.200 the way back, Bryce confuses again the Attorney General with 0:21:28.320 --> 0:21:34.359 the district attorney DoD. I mean, do do attorney general 0:21:34.480 --> 0:21:38.440 self security? I'm sure it's at the building. I don't 0:21:38.480 --> 0:21:42.080 know if they got them, like personal protective details or anything. 0:21:44.400 --> 0:21:47.680 What Red didn't know at this point is Bryce is 0:21:47.720 --> 0:21:51.800 onto him. Bryce doesn't know a lot of things, that's 0:21:51.840 --> 0:21:54.840 for sure. He certainly doesn't know much about his elected officials. 0:21:56.000 --> 0:22:00.680 But Bryce knows this five or six hundred bucks. No 0:22:00.920 --> 0:22:03.480 way you can find a hitman to kill an elected 0:22:03.520 --> 0:22:07.080 official for five or six hundred bucks. And I just 0:22:07.240 --> 0:22:09.680 kind of like, okay, like like yeah, I'll let you know. 0:22:10.160 --> 0:22:11.359 You know what I mean, Like when you hear the 0:22:11.440 --> 0:22:13.680 motherfuckers say some bullshit and you're like, yoh, okay, yeah, 0:22:13.720 --> 0:22:15.920 I'll get right on it. I got you. Yep. I'm 0:22:15.920 --> 0:22:20.200 gonna call you yep, yep. H He's stupid, bro. I'm 0:22:20.240 --> 0:22:29.720 gonna hate you though, calling Bro Bryce. He knows something 0:22:31.080 --> 0:22:45.240 is very off. So Bryce, as you're probably figuring, doesn't 0:22:45.240 --> 0:22:49.960 assassinate Colorad as attorney general or even try to. But 0:22:50.119 --> 0:22:55.800 his rhetoric it's troubling. He did talk about killing a politician. 0:22:56.840 --> 0:22:59.000 Bryce said, just shoot him as he gets out of 0:22:59.000 --> 0:23:02.720 his car. It's on tape, secretly recorded by the FBI. 0:23:04.200 --> 0:23:07.800 Offer hope out the car. You know what I mean? 0:23:08.040 --> 0:23:12.359 Copy Man. Bryce seemed to have a kind of bloodlust 0:23:12.400 --> 0:23:15.680 in his words. Same with zeb Hal. He was like 0:23:15.800 --> 0:23:21.960 Bryce talking big, talking about violence, talking about burning the 0:23:22.040 --> 0:23:26.240 whole motherfucker down. I've seen this kind of behavior a lot, 0:23:26.320 --> 0:23:30.680 and undercover stings, the targets of the investigation talking and 0:23:30.840 --> 0:23:34.840 acting like the undercovers, who are in turn acting like 0:23:34.920 --> 0:23:39.679 bad guys terrorists, drug dealers, money launderers, con men, whatever. 0:23:41.000 --> 0:23:43.280 Humans have a tendency to mimic the behavior of people 0:23:43.320 --> 0:23:46.520 in their social groups. We all do this, some more 0:23:46.560 --> 0:23:49.639 than others, but in undercover stings there tends to be 0:23:49.720 --> 0:23:52.880 in amplifying effect. The targets of the sting either want 0:23:52.880 --> 0:23:57.320 to impress the undercovers or they're scared of the undercover agents, 0:23:58.040 --> 0:24:00.920 and so they talk and act more like bad guys. 0:24:02.920 --> 0:24:06.240 Bryce is doing this. For example, when Mickey and Red 0:24:06.320 --> 0:24:08.480 talked to Bryce about guns, he told him that his 0:24:08.520 --> 0:24:11.360 guns were illegal to bolster his image as a badass. 0:24:12.280 --> 0:24:15.399 But that isn't true. I was maintaining the image with them. 0:24:15.480 --> 0:24:18.960 I bought my ship in the pot stores, so you 0:24:19.040 --> 0:24:20.359 know what I mean. I was floating to them. You 0:24:20.400 --> 0:24:22.800 know what I mean, I'm gang banging. Whoop whooo, I'm 0:24:23.000 --> 0:24:25.280 crips and you ain't got no tattoos, no where fucking worry, 0:24:25.280 --> 0:24:27.160 oh my goddamn body. And not that that means anything, 0:24:27.200 --> 0:24:29.440 because there's gang members that don't have no tattoos at all. 0:24:29.640 --> 0:24:31.679 But I'm not in the gang book. I'm you've never 0:24:31.760 --> 0:24:34.480 been arrested like with you know what I mean with people, 0:24:34.600 --> 0:24:35.960 You know what I mean for them to profile me 0:24:36.040 --> 0:24:37.440 like that and much like that, But I was telling 0:24:37.480 --> 0:24:38.920 them that, you know what I mean, I'm thinking again, 0:24:38.960 --> 0:24:41.600 these are mercenaries and hit man, so you know I mean, 0:24:41.640 --> 0:24:43.560 we talked, We talk and killer talk more or less. 0:24:44.000 --> 0:24:46.840 Play Yeah, And then when the motherfucker was like, yeah, 0:24:47.080 --> 0:24:49.440 tell me five hundred, I got you. Well, first off, 0:24:50.400 --> 0:24:53.240 running in the streets, you're killing a political figure for 0:24:53.600 --> 0:24:57.879 way more than that. I'm saying straight up. You know 0:24:57.880 --> 0:25:00.399 what I mean, You're killing them somebody big like that 0:25:00.480 --> 0:25:02.720 for way more than five hundred dollars, So you do 0:25:02.800 --> 0:25:04.520 it a suspicious right away, just because the price was 0:25:04.520 --> 0:25:09.560 still out of line, right, Yeah, grossly, you're selling yourself grossly. 0:25:09.960 --> 0:25:12.560 That's some MS for an m like that, that's some 0:25:12.920 --> 0:25:19.560 MS just being real by ms, Bryce means millions. A 0:25:19.760 --> 0:25:23.480 murder like this would cost millions, not five hundred dollars. 0:25:27.240 --> 0:25:29.760 After they drive over to the Attorney General's house and 0:25:29.880 --> 0:25:33.800 discuss how they might kill him, Bryce never talks to 0:25:33.880 --> 0:25:38.560 Mickey or rad again. And they tried to call me 0:25:38.640 --> 0:25:42.080 and shit like that, But you know what I mean, 0:25:42.560 --> 0:25:46.240 he recognized the number. Shit like that. You just got 0:25:46.240 --> 0:25:49.000 to them at that point, bab I wasn't trying to 0:25:49.040 --> 0:25:50.560 funk with you to that the degree. In no way 0:25:51.400 --> 0:25:55.159 you really trying to do this shit. I'm I'm not 0:25:55.280 --> 0:25:59.840 doing this. I know it's not gonna in the way 0:25:59.840 --> 0:26:03.960 I wanted to end. Okay, all right, you killed a 0:26:04.000 --> 0:26:06.879 couple of our people. All Right, we're gonna change all laws, 0:26:07.040 --> 0:26:09.680 give you all reparations. Where Yeah, no, that's not gonna 0:26:09.760 --> 0:26:12.679 change anything. That's gonna piss them off more. We're really 0:26:12.760 --> 0:26:21.160 gonna start killing black people more. Yeah. I asked Bryce 0:26:21.240 --> 0:26:23.879 if he thought what happened to him and what happened 0:26:23.920 --> 0:26:27.840 with Mickey's work in Denver, we're all a continuation of 0:26:27.960 --> 0:26:33.760 the FBI's history of targeting black political activists. Bryce says, yeah, 0:26:34.359 --> 0:26:39.440 just read some history. There's a document you can find 0:26:39.480 --> 0:26:41.440 it on the end that you could google it. It's 0:26:41.480 --> 0:26:45.119 called the It's called Operation Black Messiah, and it's pretty 0:26:45.200 --> 0:26:49.520 much made to prevent the rise of any militant minded, 0:26:49.680 --> 0:26:59.800 charismatic black males, any heterosexual, stereotypical blackmails that rise to power, fame, glory, whatever. 0:27:00.080 --> 0:27:01.760 You know what I mean. Don't let him get to 0:27:01.880 --> 0:27:05.160 the people, don't let them love him too much. They'll 0:27:05.240 --> 0:27:07.600 kill for that motherfucker, and therefore they'll turn on our 0:27:07.640 --> 0:27:11.200 white asses more or less. You might know what Bryce 0:27:11.320 --> 0:27:14.480 is referring to here. There is recently a movie called 0:27:14.560 --> 0:27:17.760 Judas and the Black Messiah about the government's involvement in 0:27:17.800 --> 0:27:22.160 the killing of Black panther leader Fred Hampton during a raid. Now, 0:27:22.480 --> 0:27:25.560 there wasn't an Operation in Black Messiah, per se. What 0:27:25.760 --> 0:27:28.720 Bryce is referring to are the co Intel pro operations 0:27:29.160 --> 0:27:33.000 under FBI director j Edgar Hoover the ones that infiltrated 0:27:33.160 --> 0:27:36.320 and subverted black political groups like doctor Martin Luther King's 0:27:36.440 --> 0:27:40.119 organization and the Black Panthers. These programs were meant to 0:27:40.200 --> 0:27:44.360 prevent a black Messiah. This was Hoover's term from unifying 0:27:44.440 --> 0:27:48.159 black political groups in the United States. Bryce believes that 0:27:48.240 --> 0:27:50.640 the government is alt to destroy any increase in black 0:27:50.680 --> 0:27:54.800