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Speaker 1: So there's this video and you're seeing the inside of

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Speaker 1: arm of the driver who's holding the camera. He's got

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Speaker 1: an intricate sleeve tattoo. In the center is the symbol

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Speaker 1: for the one hundred and eighty seventh Airborne, the famous

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Speaker 1: The air conditioner is at full blast. It's in the

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Speaker 1: nineties today in Denver. You see seven seven seventy five

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Speaker 1: in Denver, Colorado. Today is August twenty five, approximately two

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Speaker 1: fifty pm. The man you're hearing is an FBI undercover

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Speaker 1: agent number seven seven seven five. U SEE is the

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Speaker 1: FBI's acronym for undercover employee. This FBI guy, he's going

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Speaker 1: by the nickname Red. I don't know his real name.

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Speaker 1: What happened a few minutes into the recording, Mickey walks

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Speaker 1: up to the Nissan Ultima. Red rolls down his window

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Speaker 1: and he notices Mickey's broken finger. Where'd you do that thing?

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Speaker 1: I would to sturge you, some fucking drunk driver hid

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Speaker 1: on his fucking wife, just cutting my handlebars. Mickey then

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Speaker 1: Ultima seems to think Mickey looks ridiculous. As he gets

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Speaker 1: then follows Mickey. He's listening to the radio as he drives.

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Speaker 1: A few minutes later, Red pulls into the parking lot

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Speaker 1: of a TGI Friday's. Mickey walks up to him again.

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Speaker 1: He's pretty laid back. He's trying to pump in. You'll

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Speaker 1: see he's kind of mental in some fucking ways. Mickey

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Speaker 1: means Bryce Shelby, the activist with the vague plot to

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Speaker 1: assassinate Colorado as Attorney General. Mickey's about to introduce Bryce

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Speaker 1: to Red, the friend he'd been talking about, the outlaw biker,

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Speaker 1: the no fuck around guy. I'm Trevor Aaronson from Western

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Speaker 1: Sound and I Heeart podcasts. This is Alphabet Boys, episode seven.

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Speaker 1: They call me Juice. Mickey Windecker, the FBI's informant, has

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Speaker 1: his sights on two targets, zeb Hall and Bryce Shelby.

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Speaker 1: He tried to roll them up over lunch at Famous

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Speaker 1: Daves into a single conspiracy, but zeb had said he's

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Speaker 1: not ready. So now in this episode, Mickey's going after Bryce,

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Speaker 1: just Bryce. Before we get there. I just want to

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Speaker 1: remind you of the timeline. It's a bit confusing since

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Speaker 1: so much happens over the span of one week. The

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Speaker 1: attacks on the police buildings in Denver the ones Mickey

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Speaker 1: hyped up, they happened from August twenty second to August

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Speaker 1: twenty ninth, twenty twenty. At the beginning of that week,

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Speaker 1: Mickey invited zeb Hall and Bryce Shelby to lunch at

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Speaker 1: a famous Dave's Barbecue restaurant. That's when Bryce discusses with

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Speaker 1: Mickey an idea to target Colorado's Attorney general. So you're

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Speaker 1: thinking for sure they're the eight gene Yeah right, and

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Speaker 1: weeks before days happened, they're always by the always buy Yeah.

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Speaker 1: After this meeting, Mickey had gone up to his FBI handler,

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Speaker 1: agent Scott Dahlstrom, and suggested that Bryce was serious about

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Speaker 1: an assassination plot. Trony generals your target. So that's the timeline.

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Speaker 1: Now it's August twenty fifth, a Tuesday, and we're at

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Speaker 1: a TGI Friday's Mickey is planning to introduce Bryce to Red,

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Speaker 1: the friend you'd been talking about, the no fuck around guy.

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Speaker 1: Before Bryce arrives at the restaurant, Mickey and Red are

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Speaker 1: which is of course a bullshit story no one read

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Speaker 1: for like a decade. We met at seventy sturgeonies, because

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Speaker 1: like very small, even though like you know, Kurdish like that,

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Speaker 1: who got booted out of the Peshmerga, and I Rock

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Speaker 1: few minutes later, Bryce arrives, what's up. What's you up too? Fine?

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Speaker 1: It's good for me right on. So the dairy man Bryce,

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Speaker 1: this is much red. This is Bryce Juice man, they

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Speaker 1: call me Juice. Juice, right, yeah, Bryce tells the FBI

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Speaker 1: He says, yeah, let me get a strawberry lemonade. Mickey

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Speaker 1: then starts telling Bryce about his friend Red and how

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Speaker 1: Leg all your ship you want to do, that's my boy,

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Speaker 1: that's good. I'm just gonna help your drinking. I don't

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Speaker 1: I'm some regular Joe civilian, but if I need to

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Speaker 1: That could be next. I got the district attorney's address.

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Speaker 1: This does an I keep voiceing the attorney. Bryce is

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Speaker 1: still confusing the two positions, the two different elected officials,

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Speaker 1: asked Bryce if he's been to the address, So you

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Speaker 1: went check it out, so but have you have you?

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Speaker 1: Have you been in it? Have? I just like neighborhood itself,

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Speaker 1: This motherfucker is the one overseeing all these cases, you

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Speaker 1: one overseeing all these cases. Bryce says, again he's confusing

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Speaker 1: the two offices. The Attorney General isn't prosecuting demonstrators, that's

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Speaker 1: the district attorney. Nobody knows they're here beside me and him.

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Speaker 1: All right. None of my people from my circles, None

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Speaker 1: about compartmentalize basis I ganged banks. You're like, that's what

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Speaker 1: this is? Another mission me? But on this Red suggested

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Speaker 1: him hearing. Bryce asked Red if he and Mickey had

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Speaker 1: serve together, not directly with them. No, we met here,

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Speaker 1: years overseas. Thank you for your shirt? What bridge? Red

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Speaker 1: the Attorney general. I mean, I think what you were saying,

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Speaker 1: I think you can accomplish that goal, whether than a

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Speaker 1: back to the old ways, right. Red tells Bryce that

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Speaker 1: That's why he called me. Yeah right, that's why I'm here, Guessa.

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Speaker 1: I am a favor here it is, but the favorite

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Speaker 1: Bryce really wants. The reason it seems he even took

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Speaker 1: talk about it? I guess I don't know. That's just

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Speaker 1: ends up being a little more than talk. Bryce had

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Speaker 1: So Red, the undercover agent, suggest they drive out to

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Speaker 1: Mickey's work for the FBI is slowly metastasizing beyond the

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Speaker 1: Denver area. Mickey provides the FBI with information about demonstrators

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Speaker 1: in Colorado Springs. This sets off a whole series of

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Speaker 1: events that will have big consequences for Mickey. The FBI

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Speaker 1: marching in the housing march, were you doing that for

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Speaker 1: Alora Springs Police Department? I was under the authority on

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Speaker 1: how many other FBI agents were in that, marsh irrespectfully

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Speaker 1: declined to answer. That's in the next episode, This is

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Speaker 1: Trojan Hears Season one of Alphabet Boys. Alphabet Boys is

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Speaker 1: a production of Western Sound and iHeart Podcasts. The show

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Speaker 1: is reported, written and hosted by me Trevor Aaronson. For

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Speaker 1: believe this story is important and could result in changes

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Speaker 1: to FBI oversight and public policy. But to have impact,

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