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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Favorites, the podcast presented by BET three

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Speaker 1: sixty five. We are part of the Action Network. I

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Speaker 1: am Shad Milman, Chief Content Officer of the Action Network.

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Speaker 1: As always, I am joined by my co host, my companion,

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Speaker 1: my cam Padre, my BFF professional better Simon Hunter. I'm

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Speaker 1: This weekend, we have one of the greatest spectacles in

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Speaker 1: sports entertainment, WrestleMania Fortia. I mentioned on the show earlier

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Speaker 1: this week. I'm going to WrestleMania in Philly this weekend. Today,

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Speaker 1: very special guest. One of the most recognizable and popular

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Speaker 1: figures in the history of professional wrestling wrestling, one of

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Speaker 1: wrestling's true work horse. This is the visionary, the revolutionary,

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Speaker 1: Seth Freakin' Rollins. Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 2: Brother, Hey, Hey, hey, Hey, what's up man? Thank you

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Speaker 2: guys for having me. I'm excited to be here. Great introduction.

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Speaker 2: By the way, I appreciate that. I appreciate that man

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Speaker 3: I dig that we.

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Speaker 1: going to get into a lot of stuff. We're going

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Speaker 1: to get into WrestleMania. We're going to get into your career.

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Speaker 1: We're going to get into your Bears fandom. There's a

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Speaker 1: lot to unpack in this show. First of all, Last

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Speaker 1: night in Brooklyn Monday Night Raw that was a brutal

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Speaker 1: ending with the rock whipping your back repeatedly. How are

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Speaker 1: you feeling right now?

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Speaker 2: I mean as frank as I can be. I feel

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Speaker 2: like crap. I feel like I got I got hit

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Speaker 2: by a car.

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Speaker 3: You know. Look, I'll be honest with you.

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Speaker 2: The plan didn't come together as I thought it maya

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Speaker 2: didn't account for Roman Reigns. Truly believed that he was

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Speaker 2: not going to be around there at the end of

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Speaker 2: the night, as.

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Speaker 3: Is his customary overture.

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Speaker 2: He does his business and leaves, and I figured that

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Speaker 2: would be what we were getting on Monday. And I

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Speaker 2: thought we'd be able to wrap the rock kind of

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Speaker 2: in the old the ring there and take care of him,

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Speaker 2: get a little piece. So we got a little piece

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Speaker 2: of them. You know, Roman was a step ahead. I'll

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Speaker 2: give credit where it's due. But WRESTLEMANI is a few

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Speaker 2: days away, so we got to be better. We got

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Speaker 2: five days or four days now. We got to come

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Speaker 2: something better. But yeah, I'm feeling it, man, I feeling

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Speaker 2: I mean, you can see, you can see it on

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Speaker 2: my face. I got kicked right in the mouth right

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Speaker 2: and the cheap I got welts all over my body

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Speaker 2: underneath this little vest here, I got it all. So

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Speaker 2: it's not exactly the way I wanted to end the

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Speaker 2: night on Monday, but you know, more motivation, a bigger

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Speaker 2: chip on my shoulder.

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Speaker 3: So onto Philly, let's go.

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Speaker 1: What happens over the next few days. You say you

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Speaker 1: got to start planning for something bigger and better when

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Speaker 1: you get into WrestleMania. So what happens over the next

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Speaker 1: few days is you both recover and then try to

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Speaker 1: figure out what the game plan is going to be.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it.

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Speaker 2: You gotta know, physically recover obviously from being you took

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Speaker 2: and they're gonna come with backup plans on backup plans,

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Speaker 2: and so you got to have contingencies yourself. So it's

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Speaker 2: And I pride myself. You know, I'm an architect, I'm

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Speaker 2: and I'm excited to see what Saturday brings, and then

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Speaker 2: hopefully on the Sunday it's a fair fight for Cody

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Speaker 2: and he can take that title off of Roman. I

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Speaker 1: So, yeah, you mentioned it's an action packed weekend. You're

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Speaker 1: Roll Reigns on Saturday, You're defending your championship on Sunday,

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Speaker 1: Simon professional better. Let's ask Seth what he thinks about

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Speaker 1: the current situation with the odds.

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Speaker 4: Yes, something going to ask you about how does it

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Speaker 4: feel to be a big underdog in this and it

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Speaker 4: really is looking like a David versus Goliath?

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Speaker 3: Does it feel that way?

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Speaker 4: Are you just one of those where you say to yourself,

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Speaker 4: this is my life, I'm dealing with you. I don't

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Speaker 4: care what the odds are. I'm playing for it anyway.

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Speaker 2: Dude, if you asked me, at any point in my career,

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Speaker 2: tell you absolutely not.

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Speaker 3: I've been the underdog from day one.

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Speaker 2: Man, I grew up in Buffalo, Iowa, in a small

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Speaker 2: town less than a thousand people. The odds that we're

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Speaker 2: even sitting here having this conversation about me main eventing

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Speaker 2: the biggest WrestleMania.

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Speaker 3: Of all time.

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Speaker 2: I'm not the Rock, I'm not Roman, I'm not even

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Speaker 2: Cody Rhoads. I don't have a last name to fall

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Speaker 2: back on. I don't have any of these ends. I

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Speaker 2: had to work my way from absolutely nothing to getting

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Speaker 2: the odds were against me. As a matter of fact,

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Speaker 2: knowing the odds were against me, having that extra chip

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Speaker 2: on my shoulder is always what's made me who I am,

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Speaker 2: and so in some ways I operate best when I'm

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Speaker 2: back against the wall, when it's one thousand to one.

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Speaker 2: You know this, WrestleMania is no different. We're here. Nobody

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Speaker 2: on planet Earth thought I'd be in the ring with

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Speaker 2: a Rock at WrestleMania forty, but here we are. And

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Speaker 2: now I got a chance to do something that nobody's

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Speaker 2: win the title.

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Speaker 3: Keep my title on night two and make history.

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Speaker 4: Plenty of golfers bet on themselves. I was wondering, are

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Speaker 4: you going to bet on yourself? I know you're already

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Speaker 4: bet on yourself in life. You have a paycheck, it

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Speaker 4: all worked out. Is it always a thing people talk

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Speaker 3: Really? And that's interesting. You know. Obviously our game is

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Speaker 2: But I think it's like, I'm not even a luck person,

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Speaker 2: but I think it's like some bad juju, you know.

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Speaker 3: I think it's like, I think it's a weird thing

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Speaker 3: to be putting money down on yourself. You know. I

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Speaker 3: dig that confidence.

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Speaker 2: I dig that confidence, and maybe for some people that

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Speaker 2: that there's some extra cash involved or an extra part

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Speaker 2: of the bottom line if they were able to push through.

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Speaker 2: But for me, I never needed that motivation. Man, All

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Speaker 3: I need people doubt. Mean, that's what makes me better.

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Speaker 1: So your entrances are fantastic and your clothes. Your clothes

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Speaker 1: are fantastic. What is your annual clothing budget just for

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Speaker 1: getting ready for your entrances?

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 2: What's my annual budgets. We're probably talking upwards a six

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Speaker 2: figure on the budget for that. I don't know exact

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Speaker 2: numbers because I don't really put a cap on fashion.

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Speaker 2: It's very important part of what I do, and so

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Speaker 2: enough guy to know what's worth it or not. But

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Speaker 2: I'm always about pushing the envelope. So let's see how

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Speaker 2: far we can take it. But annual probably probably pushing

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Speaker 2: six figures.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And when you're walking in you know, you just

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Speaker 1: said you're from a tiny town in Iowa, a thousand people.

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Speaker 1: You're walking in to WrestleMania. You're walking into these huge events.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how many people are going to be

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 1: What does it feel like when you're walking in? Like,

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Speaker 2: Man, when you walk out the curtain and you step

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Speaker 2: If you can get to that moment, then it's just

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Speaker 2: what I've done for years, what I do nightly, right,

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Speaker 2: It's just get out there, do your job, perform and

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Speaker 3: That's like my zen garden. Man. It's an awesome place

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Speaker 3: to be, you know.

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Speaker 2: And it wasn't always that way in the beginning. There

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Speaker 2: be the answer people expect, but it's there's a certain

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Speaker 1: Can you see fans like I envisioned that being so chaotic,

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Speaker 1: Like there's so much noise. It's a wall of noise,

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Speaker 1: right and you're going in and you're gonna have to perform,

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Speaker 1: and all eyes are on you. Can you see individual faces,

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Speaker 1: Can you hear individual voices?

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Speaker 3: Or is it all a blur?

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Speaker 2: Most of it's a blur, Like most of its all

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Speaker 2: leads together. Occasionally there's like these special situations where you

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Speaker 2: maybe it's a kid or somebody. You can just feel

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Speaker 3: You two, you know.

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Speaker 2: Then the rest of the room goes away and there's

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Speaker 2: I can see, whatever's on their face, I can read.

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Speaker 3: And that's that's the special thing about what we do

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Speaker 2: This connection we have with our audience is unlike anything

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Speaker 4: You're broken, just like Chad's broken. All Bears fans are broken.

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Speaker 4: The fact that you guys love Justin Fields this much.

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Speaker 4: in three years he won what you had six games? Like,

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying justin Field is Pat Mahomes by any

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Speaker 1: Six freaking Rollin Simon.

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Speaker 4: Well say that is fair, but you dive into numbers,

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Speaker 4: That's the goal saying Justin Fields cannot be that unicorn.

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Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. I'm like, you guys are so

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Speaker 2: I hope you're right. And I'm not a scout. I

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Speaker 2: You know, I don't know. You look at fields numbers

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Speaker 3: I did another interview recently. I was on Good Morning Football.

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Speaker 2: I said, I guarantee Caleb Williams will be the Chicago

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Speaker 2: I feel really good about him and me and I

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Speaker 3: That's all I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Simon, can you name the fastest growing ticket app

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Speaker 3: I respect that.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Like you light up as a fan

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't I love both, man, I mean,

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Speaker 1: win the title at WrestleMania thirty one this weekend, wrestle

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Speaker 1: Media forty you defeat the Rock and Roman reigns, Which

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Speaker 1: would be the greater achievement what you did in thirty

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Speaker 1: one or what you could possibly do in forty.

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Speaker 3: Man, that's very interesting.

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Speaker 2: I think thirty one is special in its own way

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Speaker 2: because if you look at cashing in money bank contract

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Speaker 2: and the main event of WrestleMania and so surprising and

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Speaker 2: so captivating and shaped the industry in its own way. Right.

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Speaker 2: We took where the industry was, We subverted expectations and

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Speaker 2: pushed it in an action at the time, and that's

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Speaker 2: really we're looking to take down this guard that is

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Speaker 2: the bloodline that's really had a byte script on our

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Speaker 2: industry for the past few years. Now you've got the

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Speaker 2: Rock back board of director for TKO.

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Speaker 3: We're ushering in a new era.

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Speaker 2: Got a television deal with Netflix coming up here starting

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Speaker 2: next year. Like it's going to be a huge change

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Speaker 2: and shift in our industry and we're about to usher

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Speaker 2: that in. And so it's almost tough to say in

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Speaker 2: the moment which one's going to be bigger. I think

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Speaker 2: when you look back in retrospect, if we're able to

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Speaker 2: do what we want to do at WrestleMania forty. It'll

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Speaker 2: go down as one of the most historic game changing

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Speaker 2: events in the history of our industry.

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Speaker 1: What's left to achieve for you?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Man, God, you know, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Legacy is an interesting question, right, It's like, what's your legacy?

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Speaker 3: What's it going to be?

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Speaker 2: And I've always wanted to leave the business better than

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Speaker 2: where I found it. That's always been my major goal,

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Speaker 2: contribute in ways that don't just benefit me, and so

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Speaker 2: I think my legacy is set in stone and you

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Speaker 2: can always add to it. But I think when it

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Speaker 2: comes down to it, my goal for the future is

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Speaker 2: to help the next generation. My time's not done yet,

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Speaker 2: but we're certainly closer to the end than we are

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Speaker 2: to the beginning. I'd love to use the kind of

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Speaker 2: latter half of my career to really help that next generation,

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Speaker 2: be the guys who are going to be wrestling, you know,

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Speaker 2: mainovating WrestleMania fifty, WrestleMania sixty, and so on and so forth.

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Speaker 2: And I think I'm in a position now where I've

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Speaker 2: got so much experience over the last two decades in

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Speaker 2: this industry, the last twelve years with WWE traveling in

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Speaker 2: the world that I can do that that I can

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Speaker 2: help these guys and girls get to the next level,

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Speaker 2: help mold what the future is going to look like.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting you say that. I think there was a

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Speaker 1: story in Bleacher Report earlier in the year, like in January,

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Speaker 1: that talked about how you've approached some things with more

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Speaker 1: humility than in the past, and have you thought a

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Speaker 1: lot about as you've gotten older in the business bringing

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Speaker 1: up that next generation.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's always been something that I've wanted to do.

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Speaker 2: You know, I've had a wrestling school for the last decade.

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Speaker 2: You know, the moment that I started on the road

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Speaker 2: WW full time, the idea to start a wrestling school

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Speaker 2: in my hometown came up, and I've been at it

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Speaker 2: for ten years now. So I've always really prioritized it,

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Speaker 2: but it's always been something that's kind of been on

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Speaker 2: the back burn. I think when you're on your way up,

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Speaker 2: it's easy to become singularly focused, right, It's easier to

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Speaker 2: only worry about yourself and what you need to do

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Speaker 2: to get to the next level. But then when you

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Speaker 2: get to the top, you look around and you go, well,

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Speaker 2: there's not many, not many mountains left to climb. You know,

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Speaker 2: there's not many oceans left to swim, and when you've

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Speaker 2: done all that and you're by yourself, you kind of wonder, like,

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Speaker 2: you know, what's next, and is it worth it to

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Speaker 2: kind of continue to just tread this water on your own?

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Speaker 2: And I think the answer is no. And I think

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Speaker 2: as you get older, you know, you start family. You know,

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Speaker 2: you start to lose relatives that are older, grandparents and

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Speaker 2: aunts and uncles, and you start to realize that there

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Speaker 2: is a fragility not just to your industry and to

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Speaker 2: your job and your career, but to your life. And

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Speaker 2: your legacy isn't really what you accomplish, but it's how

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Speaker 2: people remember you and how they carry on your legacy.

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Speaker 2: And I think that's really starts to hit home the

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Speaker 2: older you get. And like I said, when you realize

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Speaker 2: you're getting closer to the end of your career than

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Speaker 2: you are to the beginning, things start to shift for

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Speaker 2: you in that capacity.

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Speaker 1: All Right, brother, listen, you got to heal up. You

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Speaker 1: Seth Freakin' Rollins. We appreciate you coming on the Favorites podcast.

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