1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: Hey everyone, it's Sophia. Welcome to Work in Progress. Hello Whipsmarties. 2 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 1: This is a very special episode because it is actually 3 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:24,479 Speaker 1: not only a crossover of podcasts, but a crossover of 4 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: this podcast and TV. Today, we are sitting down to 5 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: have a conversation with Jessica Capshaw and Camilla Luttington to 6 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 1: talk about Grey's Anatomy. Me going to work on Grey's Anatomy, 7 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 1: and I'm also going to go visit them on Call 8 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: It What It Is, their new podcast. Camilla and I 9 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 1: have not worked together on the set of Grays, but 10 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: we have crossed paths in the breezeway and it is 11 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: such a fun set to be on. 12 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 2: She is an icon. 13 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: Doctor Joe Wilson is this vulnerable, strong, funny character and 14 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 1: that's because of Camilla and not only to she do 15 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: amazing work on Gray's. Do y'all know that she embodies 16 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 1: Lara Croft in the tomb Raider video games. From animation 17 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: to the screen. She's just an incredible performer and happens 18 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 1: to be one of the most fun. 19 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 2: Humans to be around at work. 20 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 1: And Jessica Capshaw, oh an icon doctor Arizona Robbins come on. 21 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 1: She starred on Grey's Anatomy for nine seasons. Happened to 22 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: work with my best friend from my first show, The 23 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 1: Inimitable Hillary Burton, and has starred in some of my 24 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 1: favorite series in films, from Hulus Tell Me Lies to 25 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: Netflix Is The Holiday, The l Words, Bones, The Practice, 26 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 1: Blind Trust, and more. She is a chameleon and at 27 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: the same time one of a kind, and the two 28 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:53,279 Speaker 1: friends have teamed up from the halls of Green Sloane 29 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:57,639 Speaker 1: Memorial to your podcast feed to launch their new show, 30 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: Call It What It Is. As real life besties, they 31 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: navigate the highs and lows of life together, from distress 32 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: signals to successful moments big and small. These two are 33 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:12,359 Speaker 1: there for each other and on their show, they'll tell 34 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: us what that looks like from a thousand pep talks, 35 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: a million I got us, some urgent I'm coming overs, 36 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: and more, laughing through the tears and problem solving over 37 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 1: glasses of rose sometimes tequila. Whatever floats your boat. They 38 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 1: know life can get even crazier than a season finale 39 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: of Grey's Anatomy. Let's dive in with Jessica and Camilla. 40 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 2: Ah, How's New York look at you? 41 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: Two cheaper cheery cuties? 42 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 2: Oh, we've had so much coffee as my goodness, it's 43 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 2: a situation. We could be in the ear act you 44 00:02:57,520 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 2: at this point. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. 45 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 3: I sent my alarm this morning for six because I 46 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 3: was like the trick where you get ready before the 47 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 3: kids are up and then I just magically appear in 48 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 3: the kitchen. This time, I actually really did do it 49 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 3: where I got breakfast ready and then I felt like 50 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 3: I was like in the Delliparton song where I was 51 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:16,239 Speaker 3: like working Mark five on the train with all the commuters, 52 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 3: got into Grand Central, came, we got ready, and now 53 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 3: we're here at iHeart Yeah. 54 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: I love that so much. Well, the irony is that 55 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 1: I'm now talking to you from LA because I've been 56 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: working on Grace. 57 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 2: I know. I can't wait to dive into that. 58 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: Oh, I know, it's so fun. Okay, I have a 59 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: question for yall, because I normally like to go backwards 60 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: before we catch up in present day. Did you both 61 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: know you wanted to be actors? Like did you grow 62 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: up little theater babies or did you have totally different 63 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: plans and now you've made the world's most iconic television show. 64 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 2: I knew I wanted to act from a super early age. 65 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 2: I was four years years old and I watched The 66 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 2: Wizard of Oz and I knew that I wanted to 67 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 2: be Judy Garland, not Dorothy and my parents nobody and 68 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 2: my family were actors at all, and my mom thought 69 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 2: I would turn into this like stage brat and she 70 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 2: was like, that's not what you're doing. And then I 71 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 2: just loved it so much that I think that I 72 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 2: like sold her on the idea and was doing theater 73 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 2: really young, so like little you know, community stage productions 74 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 2: at like you know, nine ten. Caught my first first 75 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 2: agent when I was eleven the theater, studied at Italia 76 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 2: CONTI then came to New York and then eventually ended 77 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 2: up in Los Angeles and doing you know, auditioning for 78 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 2: One Tree Hill and not getting it. By the way, 79 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 2: did not get that job, not having that day we 80 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 2: blew it. Yeah, Well, I really wanted to move to 81 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 2: because you guys filmed in Wilmington, right North Carolina, and 82 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 2: that's where Dawson's Crea filmed, and I thought that this 83 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 2: was my Dawson's Creek moment because it was like the 84 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 2: show that I loved. And then I don't even think 85 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 2: I got a call back, no, it's okay, and then 86 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 2: here I am with you, lovely ladies, promoting all the things. Yeah, 87 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 2: I grew up totally different stories. 88 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 4: I grew up as a little one. 89 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 3: Very very shy, and I don't know that I ever 90 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 3: dreamed that I would be bold enough to tell a story. 91 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 3: But I always had a lot of stories in my mind, 92 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 3: and the bulk of my acting was done with myself 93 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 3: in the bathroom mirror. I would imagine circumstances and then 94 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 3: I would you know, act them out and then and 95 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 3: then I was surrounded by the world of acting. My 96 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 3: mom was an actress and she and we were on 97 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 3: the road all the time, so I was on film 98 00:05:56,040 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 3: sets from when I was five six years old. And 99 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 3: then I think that I fought it. I was kind 100 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 3: of like, that's too predictable. That seems like, you know, 101 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 3: and I remember I just remember seeing other people that 102 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 3: were daughters of going out into the world and daring 103 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 3: greatly and being totally just I mean, this was before 104 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:20,719 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know what people think NEPO babies 105 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 3: are cool or not. I still sort of don't understand 106 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:25,359 Speaker 3: the complexity of that, but it seems like it's a 107 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 3: positive negative thing like there's like there's a tension for it, 108 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 3: but at the same time there's there's questioning of merit 109 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 3: and integrity on some level, and that was happening in 110 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:36,359 Speaker 3: my world. So I was a little bit like, I 111 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 3: don't need to put myself out there and be bad. 112 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 4: That just needs to not happen. 113 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 3: And so, in very typical Jessica capsh Off for muh, 114 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 3: I I vetted myself with all the acting teachers I 115 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 3: could find. I want to wait a summer camp. I 116 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 3: was like, but no, it's but am I good? Is 117 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 3: what I wanted to know at the end of summer 118 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:55,919 Speaker 3: camp when I went to I. 119 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 2: Still want to know that? Right, we're still waiting to 120 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 2: find out. We still don't know. 121 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 4: We still haven't decided. 122 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: I think that ever goes away, does it? 123 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 2: No? No, what I'm saying, No, No, I feel like 124 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 2: it never goes away. 125 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 3: Also, by the way, there's some people who do think 126 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 3: you're good and some people who think you're terrible. 127 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 4: All you have to do is go on the internet. 128 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: Internet is a terrible place. 129 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 4: No, it's a very dark world wide web. Yes, that's true. 130 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: No matter how long we do this, you know they'll 131 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: call cut. You'll look at your coworkers and be like, well, okay, yeah, 132 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: long is the people you're acting with, I think you're great, 133 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: and vice versa. The internet can crawl in a hole 134 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: and die there. 135 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 136 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 3: I remember lots of times after it takes the director 137 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 3: would say, you know, sort of like a compulsory thing. 138 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 4: They'd be like, that was great, that was good. 139 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 3: Moving on, and I would always sort of pause and 140 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 3: look at whoever I was with and be. 141 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 4: Like, I'm not really shooting or aiming for good? Can 142 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 4: we go? 143 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: Like? Could we? How? 144 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 4: What are we? Where are we between good and great? 145 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 3: How do we There's that sort of like work ethic 146 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 3: piece of me that wants to keep going, and. 147 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 2: Then you went on a network show and you realize, no, 148 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 2: we're going to move on. 149 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're just going to move on, or the difference 150 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 3: your first season in your last where you're like and. 151 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 4: We can go. 152 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 1: I'm so curious about this because you know, Jessica, you 153 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: joined Grays in oh nine, Kimillie you joined in twenty twelve, 154 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: and in the same way you talk about like not 155 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:28,679 Speaker 1: getting you know, one Tree Hill. I think about all 156 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: of the shows we've all auditioned for all of the 157 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 1: jobs you want to get and most of them you don't. Like, 158 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: when you're a successful actor, what do you book three 159 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: percent of all your auditions or something? What was it 160 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: like to join a show like this? Because people will 161 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 1: ask me about my show and I'm like, we didn't 162 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 1: know anything. We didn't know how long we were going 163 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: to be on by the time you stepped into Grays, 164 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: you know, in both of your respective seasons, like the 165 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 1: show is such a juggernaut. Was it a different experience 166 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: to go up for the job, audition for the job, 167 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 1: show up on set, Like, what is that journey like 168 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: for both of you? 169 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 3: My story was a little nuanced and that I had 170 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 3: been a huge fan of the show like appointment television, 171 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 3: watched it on the night, and then it wasn't until 172 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:18,559 Speaker 3: the fifth season that maybe, no, maybe the fourth where 173 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 3: I auditioned and I went in. 174 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 4: I literally had a baby two weeks prior. 175 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 3: But my agent called me and said there's this part, 176 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 3: and she said, I know you would I know you 177 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 3: don't want to go out for anything, but I know 178 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 3: you would also kill me if I didn't tell you 179 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 3: that there's this part coming on. And I said, you're right, 180 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 3: I am, so I like, I mean, I tidied up 181 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 3: real quick and I hoofed it over to. 182 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 2: Hoofed it over to the studio expression. 183 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I used my hugs and ran over and I 184 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 3: was like okay, And I showed up in the casting 185 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 3: office and I did everything that I could to get the. 186 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 4: Part, and I didn't. 187 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 3: And then maybe about a year later, there was another part, 188 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 3: and I thought, well, now this is going to be it, 189 00:09:57,559 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 3: and I went in and I auditioned and I didn't 190 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 3: get it. And then my agen but they really do 191 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:04,680 Speaker 3: like you, Yeah, they don't like me that much, and 192 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:07,959 Speaker 3: they sort of stayed on them and lo and behold, 193 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 3: we got a phone call that you know, there's this 194 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 3: part is a three I was offered a three episode 195 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:14,680 Speaker 3: arc on the show. And when I came on, I 196 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 3: was still just a fan. I came on as a 197 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 3: fan and I was acting, but I was like looking 198 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 3: around and just sort of wanted. I was like simultaneously 199 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 3: wanting to do something really great and at the same 200 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 3: time just like blend in so no one could get 201 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 3: rid of me. 202 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 2: And that's what I did. 203 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 3: And then it just sort of went on to another 204 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 3: episode and another episode and then that was throughout the 205 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 3: entire fifth season, and then I was brought on as 206 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 3: a regular in the sixth season. 207 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 2: Right, that's what happened. Sophia non nod wing three episodes yea. 208 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 4: With us. 209 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 2: For me, the journey was a little bit different. I 210 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 2: had never auditioned for it before, but I had just 211 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 2: tested for a pilot of Shondas that didn't end up going. 212 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 2: It was one called Gilded Lily's and and yeah, I 213 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:07,679 Speaker 2: went to Network and it was between me and another 214 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 2: girl and I didn't get it. And then I ended 215 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 2: up on True Blood and True Blood finished. But I 216 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 2: had to go to Comicon because I played Lara Croft 217 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 2: in all the video games, well in three of the 218 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 2: last three video games. So I went to Comic Con 219 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 2: on the Friday, and I got a call on the friday, 220 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 2: on the Thursday saying Shonda Rhymes wants to put together 221 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 2: a new intern class. Can you come on tomorrow to audition? 222 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 2: And you know now they can't do it. But it 223 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 2: was like literally, you know, the last minute, like hey, 224 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 2: you have a bunch of sides the night before and 225 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 2: you got to come in the next day and I 226 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 2: couldn't make it. So I was like, damn, I can't 227 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 2: believe I missed that. And then I was still at 228 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 2: Comic Con for the weekend, and then I got a 229 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 2: call saying they can't find this one heart. Would you 230 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 2: come in on the Monday, And I was like, I 231 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 2: can make that. So it was between me and about 232 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 2: six other girls. I went in. I auditioned for Shonda. 233 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 2: She was there, and then I was so the first 234 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 2: one in and they asked me to stay behind, which 235 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 2: is always you know, is a good sign. And then 236 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 2: one by one the other girls left and it would 237 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 2: just ended up being me and this shit because with me, 238 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 2: and then I found out that it was between me 239 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 2: and another girl in New York. And then about four 240 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 2: days later I was on set and it was super intimidating. 241 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:22,439 Speaker 2: You're absolutely right, super established show, wait, but very intimidate. 242 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:22,719 Speaker 2: I was. 243 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 3: I say something about that, which is that I for 244 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 3: me and in my experience coming on the fifth season 245 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 3: of the show, it was a huge success. 246 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:32,319 Speaker 4: And. 247 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 3: It's actually an even bigger success now. So when I 248 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 3: was there, people were still chasing, like, what were the 249 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 3: ratings last night? People were still talking about what the 250 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 3: ratings were like, people were still talking about the ad dollars. 251 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 3: People were still talking about very you know, quintessential, how 252 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 3: we've made television for the past fifty years type of mindsets. Right, 253 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 3: it was not super expansive. It was only starting to 254 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 3: you know, social media was taking hold and there were 255 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 3: conversations happening between shows or characters on shows or people 256 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 3: on shows and the outside world. And then the most 257 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 3: magical thing of all that came along was streaming. And 258 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 3: so what I saw in the ten years I was 259 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 3: there was this explosion of this show becoming multi generational 260 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 3: in its watchers were in its viewers and it's yours 261 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 3: where the right word is for that, but people watching 262 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 3: it and then watching it again. So when you say 263 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 3: you coming on to a juggernaut's like it was to me. 264 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 3: I mean it was it was my dream come true 265 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 3: to come onto the show, and. 266 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 4: It became even bigger. 267 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:37,079 Speaker 3: So it's wild to me to sort of look at 268 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 3: it now and just see the presence that it has. 269 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 3: And again just like the you know, the mothers and 270 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 3: daughters that come up and say, you know, or people 271 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 3: who got into medicine because of it. 272 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 2: Even the last two weeks we were I got Suiden 273 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 2: something where this says we're in the top ten of 274 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 2: streaming worldwide. Yeah wow, which is insane. Yeah yeah to 275 00:13:57,600 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 2: still you know, yeah, it's so cool. 276 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: It's such a cool thing to be a part of. 277 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 1: I went to the table read last week for this 278 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: latest episode, and you know, first of all, like so 279 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 1: cool to see everyone there. It's twenty one seasons in. 280 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 1: The bar is so high. Everybody loves each other, everybody's laughing, 281 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: everybody's giving this thing. They're all when they could be coasting, 282 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: and like Debbie Allen goes to walk by and I'm like, hi, Debbie, Hi, 283 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: I'm Sophia, but I just want to introduce myself. And 284 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: she grabs me by the hand and goes, girl, I 285 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: know who you are. And I was like yeah yeah, 286 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: and she started laughing at me, and I was like, 287 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: I just gasped in Debbie Allan's face, Am I okay? 288 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 2: That what is wrong with me? 289 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: And everybody was giggling, and I just was like, whoa. 290 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 1: This is a really surreal experience and it's so cool 291 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 1: that you all. It's just so cool what you all 292 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: have built. It's really beautiful. 293 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 2: I love and I love what you said, which is 294 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 2: exactly how I feel when you're in our table reads, 295 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 2: you can tell and then this hap on set. Nobody's 296 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 2: phoning it in. Everyone's still twenty one seasons in giving 297 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 2: it there all. We genuinely love our characters, and we're 298 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 2: especially in this climate right now, so appreciative of just 299 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 2: the work. And there's no I don't work with anybody 300 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 2: that's kind of blase about it. 301 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, and now a word from our sponsors that I 302 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 1: really enjoy and I think you will too. Do you 303 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: guys remember the first day you met on set? 304 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 2: Do you know the story? No? Do you know that 305 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 2: we you know we don't like each other. Stop, it's true, Sophia, 306 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 2: I know you're a thing. You're looking at me thinking 307 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 2: how could you not love me instantly? But Jessica did not. 308 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 2: Jessica did not like me? 309 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 1: What did she do? 310 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 2: Exactly? There is there's a story about something I did. 311 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 2: Can I tell it? Or are you going to tell it? 312 00:15:58,960 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: Well? 313 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I think it's your turn. 314 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 3: I think, but also at the I mean, we can 315 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 3: completely tell the story. I think that that that the 316 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 3: that the real takeaway is that I. 317 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 2: Got to give her the juice, though, don't just give her. 318 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 2: The takeaway is that now you love each other. I 319 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 2: the takeaway. 320 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 3: The takeaway is that you need to be a flexible thinker. 321 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 1: Who was the inflexible thinker? 322 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 2: Me? 323 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, I really appreciate that. 324 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, I there we go. Okay. 325 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 3: So I had been on the show for I guess 326 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 3: like two or three seasons, and I had had my 327 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 3: baby girl, and I came back to work really right away, 328 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 3: and I think that I was dealing with a ton 329 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 3: of different things that that that some others feel as 330 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 3: well or not, who knows. I was like not in 331 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 3: my body. I was super insecure about all things. I mean, 332 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 3: we're where your brain is, and like was I gonna 333 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 3: remember lines? And did I look the way that I 334 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:08,159 Speaker 3: wanted to look? And did I could I show up 335 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 3: and not have my mind somewhere else? And just like 336 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 3: all the things about like when you go to say, 337 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 3: like when you tell work like I'm gonna go have 338 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 3: a baby, but you have this weird thing that kicks 339 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:19,120 Speaker 3: in at some Pavlovian response to old cultural tropes, which 340 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 3: is like, but I can still do my job, Like 341 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:22,679 Speaker 3: I'm gonna have a baby, but I'm gonna be exactly 342 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 3: the same. I'll still be able to do my job, 343 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 3: but you're like, oh, wait, no, I'm actually not at 344 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:31,160 Speaker 3: all the same person and I can still do my job, 345 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 3: but how I do my job might be a little 346 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:35,919 Speaker 3: bit different, and I'll need to go a little easy 347 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 3: on myself. And I was not yet in that mindset. 348 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 3: I was not going easy on myself. And I think 349 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 3: what we all know is that when you're not going 350 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:47,679 Speaker 3: easy on yourself, you likely aren't going easy on others. 351 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 1: Isn't it interesting how that works? 352 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 4: Aha? 353 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 3: Moment, so social media had just started, which I think 354 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 3: I also was a little bit weary of, like, oh, 355 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 3: you can just be captured in any moment people say 356 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 3: things about you, not say things about you. Blah blah blah. Anyways, 357 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 3: Camilla and I were working together. 358 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 4: It was a large scene. 359 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 3: We were all sitting around the cast chairs. 360 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:14,400 Speaker 4: We did not know each other very well. She was 361 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 4: she loves this part, gorgeous and fun. 362 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:23,120 Speaker 3: And had this contagious laugh and everyone was so excited 363 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 3: to work with her. And Shonda Raimes had gotten a 364 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 3: food truck with burgers and I had gone out to 365 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:33,639 Speaker 3: go get one, and we were all. 366 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 2: Sitting around and I tell the story from here. 367 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 4: I mean, sure she can I'd like to take over. 368 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:44,879 Speaker 2: Please, if I'm may. I was sitting gorgeous, stunning, mining 369 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 2: my own business in my cast here, glowing, and I 370 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 2: Shonda Rhimes got a food truck. She got a Burger truck. 371 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 2: I thought, I'll go outside and this is great. I'm 372 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:57,439 Speaker 2: gonna snap a picture and I'm gonna tweet it and 373 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 2: say thank you Shonda for the burger truck. Right, I mean, 374 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 2: I'm still recurring, I think at this point. Right, So 375 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 2: I'm like, I know, gotta be thankful, grateful, you know, 376 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 2: it's a polight thing to do. I snapped a picture, 377 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 2: I did the tag, I put it on Twitter, and 378 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 2: I sat back down in my seat, not thinking about 379 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 2: anything else. This monster kind of storming in the story 380 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 2: gets bigger, does it? Does? The storman does get exaggerated 381 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 2: every time this volcano came in erupting. And she was like, 382 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:36,639 Speaker 2: who posted the picture? And what I truly did not know, 383 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 2: truly is that she was at a sliver of the 384 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 2: picture to the side was just like Capshaw motivoating like 385 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:48,679 Speaker 2: four burgers, and I did not know. I thought I 386 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 2: was taking a picture of the truck. I didn't know. 387 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 3: The family buck shots of burgers one shot, just one. 388 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 2: She's doing burger shots and I posted it and she 389 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 2: thought it was pure sabotage. I thought it was burger 390 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 2: sabotage and she it was taking me down, Yes, and 391 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 2: I really so. I deleted that so fast. And it 392 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:19,679 Speaker 2: was icy that first season, which is getting terrifying but 393 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 2: also terrifying. 394 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 3: Completely confusing, because I'm not an icy person, like you 395 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 3: don't have to you don't have to meet me. I mean, 396 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 3: I would like to know any other person that would 397 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 3: just cry me as icy. 398 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 2: I wouldn't describe you as icy now, But long story short, 399 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 2: we hate each other stuff? 400 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 4: Yeah great? 401 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,679 Speaker 1: And then how did you become best friends? Because clearly 402 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:43,640 Speaker 1: now we're here. 403 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:44,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, we're here. 404 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 3: Well, after that incident, I imagined a bunch of things 405 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:51,639 Speaker 3: about who she was. 406 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 4: She probably imagined a bunch of things that I was. 407 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:57,919 Speaker 3: We told her that story on a loop, and to 408 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,479 Speaker 3: both of our defenses, there were multiple people around us 409 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 3: that would say to each other, to each of us, yeah, no, 410 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:06,239 Speaker 3: she really is so great. I swear she really is, 411 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,880 Speaker 3: and so that those seeds have been planted. And then 412 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,199 Speaker 3: we'd organized a dinner we. 413 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 2: Shared a bunch of mutual you know, cast and crew friends. 414 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 2: We'd organized a dinner before a rap party and all. 415 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 3: Go to and then go on to the party together 416 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 3: and people a bunch of people couldn't make it. 417 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,360 Speaker 2: They canceled on us. Yeah, that's how popular we were. 418 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,679 Speaker 4: Just did you guys wind up on a date? Yeah? 419 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love this. 420 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 4: Yeah. 421 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 3: It was a sexy Hollywood off Hollywood Bulevard days was. 422 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 2: A Catsuya Brentwood sushi date. Yeah, Holly, was it Hollywood? 423 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 4: I remember, Holly. 424 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, no, no it was it was Hollywood. 425 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 2: And then we were forced to reconcile. But then we 426 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 2: just loved each other. 427 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, we did. 428 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 2: I love that. 429 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 3: Then it was done, all done, and then it was 430 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 3: just yeah. And then I think that you know, when 431 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 3: you're on shows like you can you can get along 432 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 3: with everyone, you can, yeah, and you can, and you 433 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,880 Speaker 3: can respect people and you can you know, be able 434 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 3: to work with them and everything else and friends even, 435 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 3: but then there's like just certain people that you are 436 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 3: like got it, like I get you, you get me 437 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,920 Speaker 3: and and and yeah, and I think that that that 438 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 3: that happened, and then it really was like time and 439 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 3: time again we showed up for each other because I 440 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 3: would love to say, and I think that I don't 441 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 3: think it's inaccurate to say that being on these shows 442 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:33,160 Speaker 3: is a dream come true. 443 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 4: And what can also be true is it's a lot 444 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 4: of work. It's a lot of work, and it's really hard. 445 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 2: There's a lot of ups and downs, a lot of challenges, 446 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:41,640 Speaker 2: a lot of different personalities. 447 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:45,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you don't think about the fact that there's 448 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 3: there's so many different worlds conspiring to make it happen, right, 449 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 3: and so you're you know, everyone's on a different journey, 450 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 3: but it's all for the same goal. And so it's 451 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 3: like you don't know what people are going through and 452 00:22:57,880 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 3: you don't know, you know, if you have no idea 453 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 3: what's going on with the challenge, the craft he's dealing 454 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 3: with today, or like, you know, the art directors that 455 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 3: you know, having gotten you know, notes two hours ago 456 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 3: that they're trying to make happen, you know, like this, 457 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,959 Speaker 3: and you know where the upm's head at is when 458 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 3: they've already you know, they've just found out that they 459 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 3: need to make something magical happen. And so you know, 460 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 3: not every day is easy. As a matter of fact, 461 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 3: it's it's work, you know, And to be in that 462 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 3: kind of environment and know that you have, you know, 463 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:34,360 Speaker 3: a couple people that you can go to and and 464 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 3: be and have an inflexible mindset and not have them, 465 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 3: you know, and just be off with your. 466 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 2: Head honestly, because in those days, you know where you 467 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 2: just feel raw, yeah, and you just need to knock 468 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,679 Speaker 2: on that trailer door and just spill it all and 469 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:48,640 Speaker 2: know that it's not going to also go anywhere. 470 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, right, yeah, and be unreasonable and have a 471 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 3: temper tantrum and go boneless and cry scream at the sky, 472 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 3: you know, and have it actually be of no import 473 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 3: five minutes later. It just needing to be something that 474 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:02,880 Speaker 3: you need to like get out. 475 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 1: Yes, but I think it can be really hard because 476 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: what you're really talking about is it's like the family 477 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 1: dynamic right where you can you can get in a 478 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 1: fistfight with your sibling and then twenty minutes later your 479 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:22,400 Speaker 1: best friends. Again, there is this kind of like deeply 480 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 1: intimate familial experience you're having when you're on a set 481 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 1: but you're with strangers, but you have to relate to 482 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 1: each other almost like a family because you have to 483 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 1: keep things really high functioning, but you also can't risk 484 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:39,439 Speaker 1: a fight or a misunderstanding, because then it'll derail the 485 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 1: ship for not just the cast, with the whole crew. 486 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: So what I think my friends and I have realized 487 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 1: over all the years we've grown up together is that 488 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 1: we spent a long time feeling like we were kind 489 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 1: of in tandem, like maybe we're so super close or 490 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,639 Speaker 1: maybe we're strangers, and then we were like, oh no, 491 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 1: there's best friendships and complexity and sometimes you want to 492 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,360 Speaker 1: punch someone. But if any anyone from outside the family 493 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 1: said anything about anyone inside the family, even the people 494 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: you might want to punch today, then you would punch 495 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 1: the person outside. Like yeah, it's a crazy dynamic. And 496 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 1: I think to your point, when you start to understand 497 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:18,919 Speaker 1: how to have really respectful acquaintanceships and then find like 498 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: your real best friendships and everyone can love each other, 499 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 1: it's like you've you've sort of won the lottery of humans. 500 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:29,880 Speaker 1: So congratulations a lot of winners. 501 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 4: Yeah you did. 502 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,400 Speaker 2: No, it's so I agree with you, and it's it's 503 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 2: such a hard thing to describe for people that have 504 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:43,640 Speaker 2: not experienced it, because also your job is to have 505 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 2: chemistry with these people on screen, right, So it's like, 506 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 2: maybe there is a day where you're like this, but 507 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 2: I can't even look at this person. And yet then 508 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 2: the next moment you got to really sell it. And 509 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 2: your job kind of depends on selling that this. You're 510 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 2: in this intimate strone and female male whoever, and you've 511 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 2: got to make it work and it's and you can't 512 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 2: bullshit it right because you can tell. So that's also 513 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 2: just an element that's I don't know what other job 514 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 2: you have to do that sort of specific mind gymnastics, 515 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 2: emotional gymnastics sometimes with. 516 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:21,679 Speaker 1: Yes, it's kind of incredible and kind of insane. 517 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, well, yeah, yeah, that's that's that's yeah, all 518 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:25,919 Speaker 3: of it, isn't it. 519 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:27,360 Speaker 2: That's when we talked. 520 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 3: About this, Yeah, I mean yeah, And there's just so 521 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:33,919 Speaker 3: many different touch points, you know, from when you you know, 522 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:35,879 Speaker 3: from when you wave aload of the security guard to 523 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,199 Speaker 3: when you're on set to when you're coming home. I 524 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,679 Speaker 3: mean I think you probably encounter upwards of fifty to 525 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,120 Speaker 3: one hundred people in a day, you know. 526 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,640 Speaker 2: It's a lot of all day more. Yeah, yeah, it's 527 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 2: a lot of people. 528 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. 529 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,159 Speaker 3: Well we have just been Camilla and I have been 530 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 3: together for seven days straight. Yeah, yeah, all the way 531 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 3: from Palm Beach, Florida to New York to We've been 532 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:00,679 Speaker 3: in the countryside of New York and what are you 533 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 3: guys doing having sleepovers at my house with my family. 534 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 2: We had a convention like a women's you don't call 535 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,119 Speaker 2: it convention, like a summit, a summit. We had a 536 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 2: summit and palm and Palm Beach that we also use 537 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 2: as like a girl trip. It was a little work 538 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 2: and play. 539 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 4: Yeah. 540 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 2: And then my education. Instead of going back to Los 541 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,439 Speaker 2: Angeles because I'm not in the current episode, you just 542 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 2: spoil it for me. Tell me what's happening. I have 543 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 2: some things. I just came. I just went straight instead 544 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 2: of coming back. I went straight to New York. Because 545 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,719 Speaker 2: she lives in the countryside. 546 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 3: And the countryside and but her her her biggest wish 547 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 3: was to watch a holiday movie with my girls. 548 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 2: Can we all put on cozy holiday pajamas and watch 549 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 2: a movie? 550 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 4: And we did it, and we did it. 551 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:52,719 Speaker 2: It was very cozy. 552 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 4: Yeah. 553 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 3: And then she came and watched the girls ride horses 554 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 3: and they just truly like my eight year old, who 555 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,719 Speaker 3: hadn't spent as much time with her, because the fourteen 556 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 3: and twelve year old will grab my phone and text 557 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 3: her and then they'll send each other videos and blah blah, 558 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 3: and the eight year old just hadn't had as much crossover. 559 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 4: And I was like, I wonder how this is gonna work. 560 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 3: The Josie is gonna like I wonder if she's gonna 561 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 3: feel like she's drafted along if I don't know if 562 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 3: this three days will be what will it be like? 563 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 3: And I was putting her to bed the night before 564 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 3: Camilla left, and she looked at me with like the 565 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 3: super super sweetest eight year old eyes and she said, 566 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,399 Speaker 3: does Camilla have to leave tomorrow? 567 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 4: Yeah? 568 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 2: We have fun. Oh. I felt like I was in 569 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 2: Little Women, Sophie. I was, really, it really is like 570 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 2: Little Women so cute. It was really super cute. Listen, 571 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 2: I know how to. I have a seven year old girl, 572 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 2: so I know how to. Yeah she doesn't know how 573 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 2: to chow with a name girl. 574 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 4: Great. 575 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 2: But you know, not everybody does that. 576 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 3: I mean speaking to your point of like how you 577 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 3: find your people, I mean, and you don't need to. 578 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 4: I would be boring if everyone was the same. 579 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 3: But it is so beautiful and unique to have a 580 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 3: friend come in and be like family and just I 581 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 3: mean asking questions really on their level and wanting to 582 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 3: actually know what the answers are. 583 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 4: And then now we're in the city, I told. 584 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 1: Oh, I love that. I get it. It's like my 585 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 1: best friend Hillary from my first show, her little girl is, 586 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 1: She's mine, like weird besties. She sends me care packages, 587 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 1: she draws me pictures how she is about to be six, 588 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 1: and George is like, so yummy, and yeah, we just 589 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 1: are obsessed with each other. And then George met my 590 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 1: girlfriend and was like, Sophia will do games with me. 591 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: And Ashland is a soccer player because George started playing 592 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 1: soccer this year, and she, oh, for now from every game, 593 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 1: she runs by Hillary and is like, send this to 594 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 1: my girls, like on the. 595 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 4: Video and I'm like, my girls, I die and. 596 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 1: She's like, mom, are my girls coming over this weekend? 597 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 2: So cute, Like truly the. 598 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 1: What it has done to my soul, I'm like, well, 599 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 1: I could die happy tomorrow goodbye. 600 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 2: That's real cute. 601 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 1: And now a word from our wonderful sponsors. Guys. I 602 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 1: almost forgot because basically I just want to talk to 603 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 1: you and also make plans to tomorrow for holiday movies. 604 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 1: But I do have a question that I actually ask 605 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 1: everyone who comes on this podcast, okaychu is what for 606 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 1: each of you? What is your work in progress? 607 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 2: Oh? My god, what isn't Yeah, that is my work 608 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 2: in progress? 609 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 3: Well, listen, I love the question so much because it 610 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 3: is so it's almost seems like it's it's only now 611 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 3: really being talked about that this in this way right, 612 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 3: that the two things can be true. You can be 613 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 3: a masterpiece, and you can and you can look at 614 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 3: the things that you've done well and be proud of 615 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 3: them without you know, running the risk of sounding arrogant. 616 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 3: Because we're stepping into a time where it's okay to 617 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 3: be able to say I think. 618 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 4: I did this really well. 619 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 3: And then there's all these other things that are happening 620 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 3: at the same time. 621 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 4: They're like, I'm working on that, what's. 622 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 2: Yours right now? I'm working on not futurizing with my kids. 623 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 2: That's hard for me. And there's that that's really difficult 624 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 2: for me. And I'm I'm trying to be more in 625 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 2: the I mean, everyone says as I'm trying to be 626 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 2: more in the moment, but I have a really hard 627 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 2: time thinking ahead always and often worst case scenario. And 628 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 2: so that's just something that I've done for Yes, that's 629 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 2: something I've done for a while. And I especially when 630 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 2: it comes to my kids, I actually think that sometimes 631 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 2: it's not even giving them the benefit of the doubt 632 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 2: in not in in theorizing that this is going to 633 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 2: go terribly wrong, like have a little more faith in this. Yeah, 634 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 2: so maybe just so spiritually having a more a little 635 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 2: more faith generally, and also not futurizing catastrophes, Yeah, would 636 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 2: be really I mean, but like it's it's it's something 637 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 2: that I do, and so I have to. You know, 638 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 2: in therapy, I learned what story you're telling, what else 639 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 2: is true, what's really true? You know, and that helps me. 640 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 2: But that's that's gonna be my work in progress journey 641 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 2: probably for maybe forever. 642 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 4: And that's okay. 643 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 2: And that's okay, that's okay. At least I'm working on it. 644 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, for sure. What about you? 645 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 3: I take questions very seriously, by the way, That's why 646 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 3: that long, prolonged pause. 647 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 2: That's what I love about you. 648 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 4: I would say. 649 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 3: That I am working on really believing that hope can 650 00:32:54,440 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 3: serve as an anchor and a buoy, that hoping for 651 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 3: things can help you stay super grounded in who you 652 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 3: are and also allow for you to want more. Yeah, 653 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 3: And that I think is it seems like it's there 654 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 3: are oppositional thoughts and forces, but I think that they 655 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 3: can come together and be true at the same time. 656 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 3: And the weaving in and out of them is really 657 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 3: uncomfortable for me, you know. So that's something that I 658 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 3: think I'm working on. 659 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 2: I love that. Do we get to ask you that back? 660 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 1: Sure? Oh gosh. I relate to what you talk about 661 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 1: in terms of having a hard time not thinking about 662 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 1: the future, and currently the question of hope is hard 663 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 1: when I think about the future. But I also I 664 00:33:55,120 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 1: just believe in us, and so I'm trying to commit 665 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 1: to knowing, recording, you know, being as honest about what's 666 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 1: going on around us as possible, and still believing in us, 667 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 1: leaning on us, knowing that, you know, generations of women 668 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 1: have come before us, have fought battles, and we're going 669 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 1: to fight them for the generations of women that come 670 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,239 Speaker 1: after us. And like and in the midst of that, 671 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,240 Speaker 1: not to forget to be in love with my life, 672 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 1: because it took me forty two years to be really 673 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:35,720 Speaker 1: really happy and to you know, look at the kids 674 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 1: and the friends and the love in my life and 675 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 1: go no matter what is going on, I'm still so 676 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:45,320 Speaker 1: lucky to be right here right now, and that the 677 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 1: ability to hold the both and at the same time 678 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:54,400 Speaker 1: is my consistent practice and journey. 679 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 2: I think I really relate to that. Yeah, I relate 680 00:34:58,120 --> 00:34:59,800 Speaker 2: to that a lot. It's tough. 681 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:01,959 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's tough. 682 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:04,880 Speaker 1: But like when you think about you said, you know 683 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 1: you might be thinking about what could go wrong. A 684 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 1: friend of mine was like, every time you ask yourself 685 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:11,800 Speaker 1: or you think about what could go wrong, I just 686 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 1: want you to ask yourself what could go right? Yeah, yeah, 687 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 1: And it's a wild practice. And so that's that's definitely, 688 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 1: you know, part of it for me. 689 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 2: You know what's been really helpful to me is so 690 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 2: far almost everything I've really worried about than one thing 691 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 2: has not gone wrong in the way, like when it's 692 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 2: come to like my family, so my sister. I always 693 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:38,839 Speaker 2: think about my sister. She's like Camilla, we have a 694 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:44,239 Speaker 2: track record of being like ninety nine percent wrong. So 695 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 2: I hold on to that. Yeah, my futurize and I'm like, 696 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 2: you know what though the forecast is yeah, probably wrong. 697 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:56,880 Speaker 2: What I'm thinking, Yeah, Like I'm a terrible Weatherman for 698 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,719 Speaker 2: my own life. And I'm okay with that because I 699 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 2: alway I assume it's going to be cloudy and thunder 700 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 2: on the weekend, you know, and I got to lean 701 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:09,279 Speaker 2: out of that. Yeah, it's real tough, though, it's very tough. 702 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 4: I know. I so optimistic though, and I. 703 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,280 Speaker 2: Think you're very optimistic. 704 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:14,279 Speaker 4: I am. I am. 705 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 3: Well, I just feel like I say it all the 706 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 3: time because I feel like it's true. It's like everything 707 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 3: will be okay in the end, and if it's not okay, 708 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:21,359 Speaker 3: it's not the end. 709 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 4: Like there's just I think you just keep going. 710 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:27,759 Speaker 3: I think that's what what we what we connect over 711 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,399 Speaker 3: a lot too, is just being people that wather through 712 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:35,880 Speaker 3: our childhoods or our adolescents or our adulthoods. Like we 713 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,799 Speaker 3: just keep going. Like if you want someone to get 714 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,279 Speaker 3: up the hill with, We're gonna get up the hill. 715 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 4: Yeah. I don't know how. It might not be pretty, 716 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:45,680 Speaker 4: but we're going. 717 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,440 Speaker 2: We're going. We're going it. 718 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 1: Well, ladies, we're going. And I'm clearly coming over for a. 719 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,880 Speaker 2: Movie perfect Yes, I haven't do it. 720 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 1: Come on over, friends, I am having such a good 721 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:00,959 Speaker 1: time with Jessica, and come out. I am not ready 722 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:05,360 Speaker 1: to be done, so be sure to tune into part 723 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:10,279 Speaker 1: two of this hang on their podcast, Call It What 724 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:10,719 Speaker 1: It Is.