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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong Show, Gatty.

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Speaker 2: Armstrong and Getki and no Hee Armstrong and Getty Strong And.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to a replay of the Armstrong and Getty Show.

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Speaker 3: We are on vacation. But boy, do we have some

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Speaker 3: good stuff for you? Yes, indeed we do.

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Speaker 3: Armstrong and Getty on demand. You ought to subscribe wherever

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Speaker 3: you like to get podcasts. Now on with the infotainment,

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Speaker 3: we're gonna there are all sorts of interesting things happening

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Speaker 3: during the transition, many of which are not getting much

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Speaker 3: attention in the dominant media that we're gonna touch on

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Speaker 3: real quickly. But why not this topic just briefly. This

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Speaker 3: is from frequent correspond to JT and Livermore talking about

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Speaker 3: how in twenty sixteen, Trump's victory spawned the resistance with

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Speaker 3: the paintcats and the He's not legitimate, He's a stooge

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Speaker 3: of pootin Russia Gabe.

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Speaker 2: Blah blah blah.

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Speaker 3: Trump's twenty four victory spawned a new TDS based sickness

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Speaker 3: in which the crib every left cuts off their friendships

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Speaker 3: and family relationships, seemingly as a form of virtue, signaling

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Speaker 3: about how awful it is that the basket of deplorables,

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Speaker 3: the bitter clingers in the garbage, have voted Trump into office.

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Speaker 3: Then he gets into the insanity and the lefty leadership

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Speaker 3: and pundits and media. They paid this election as an

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Speaker 3: existential threat to the country. Then after they lose, those

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Speaker 3: same people said that it was because our country was

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Speaker 3: so misogynistic in racist, deplorable, bitter garbage. Then they validated

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Speaker 3: their hateful rhetoric by telling distressed lefty voters that it

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Speaker 3: was appropriate to cut off family and friends voting for Trump,

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Speaker 3: which was worse the hateful rhetoric and lies against Trump

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Speaker 3: and every Trump supporter or that post lost narrative, that's

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Speaker 3: appropriate to cut off all Republicans from your life. It's

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Speaker 3: so sad, And you know, there's part of me that thinks,

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Speaker 3: you know, if I had a friend or relatives say that,

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Speaker 3: I'd say good go go bye bye, but that that

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Speaker 3: would almost validate the idea of it's appropriate to end

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Speaker 3: relationships over politics.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's you know, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: That's easy to say if I don't think about a

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Speaker 4: specific person, but like about you, or not talk to

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Speaker 4: either one of my brothers ever again because of how

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Speaker 4: the election went, that would be horrible.

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Speaker 2: Right exactly.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's incredibly dysfunctional and like childish and or adolescent.

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Speaker 3: It's just what a state our politics are in. And

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Speaker 3: then finally, or as it is in our politics is

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Speaker 3: r and speaking of crazy, I want to squeeze this in.

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Speaker 3: Did you see or did you hear that AOC has

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Speaker 3: taken the pronouns out of her social media bios? Hm,

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Speaker 3: social media accounts? Isn't that interesting?

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Speaker 4: Wow? Bill Maher had a thing about that on Friday night.

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Speaker 4: Maybe we'll have to grab that on because he was

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Speaker 4: comparing it to the Oh it's because they're sexist and

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Speaker 4: claiming there's no such thing as a difference between a

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Speaker 4: almost nobody in America agrees with it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then this same person pointed out that when

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Speaker 3: Seth Molten said, hey, I got a couple of little

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Speaker 3: girls in sports. I don't want them run over by

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Speaker 3: a boy playing sports. He was compared to a Nazi collaborator,

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Speaker 3: you know, look, Trump is what Trump is. It's pretty

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Speaker 3: well documented what Trump is at this point. But y'all

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Speaker 3: at that like one third of the farthest left in America,

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Speaker 3: more saying it openly. Yeah, all that stuff you've been

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Speaker 3: making us do, that's cuckoo nuts. Transition wise, we trust

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Speaker 3: Axios more or less. Now, why isn't that Jonathan Swan's outfit?

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Speaker 4: They got a headline today, massive blow up between Musk

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Speaker 4: cabinet picks as each jockey for influence. The next Bob

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Speaker 3: It would have to be at least surreal to sit

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Speaker 3: there in a room telling Elon Musk No, you're out

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Speaker 3: Or it's probably weird for Elon to you know, if

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So a couple of stories about to transition and

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Speaker 3: the the way the transition affects the rest of the world.

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Speaker 3: Smugglers are telling migrants again, when did immigrants become migrants?

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Speaker 3: used to be immigrants actually were migrants. They would migrate

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Speaker 3: of the first times in history, they're not migrants at all,

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Speaker 2: Supposed to call them migrants. Shut up anyway.

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Speaker 3: Smugglers are telling illegal immigrants to rush to the US

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Speaker 3: before Trump takes power. The Coyotes are anticipating US border

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Speaker 4: It's more profitable than drugs. Now, well that makes sense.

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Speaker 4: I mean things are going to change very quickly. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: oh yeah, absolutely. But the Coyotes follow the news. They

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Speaker 3: Also transition news, the Energy Department has quadrupled their lending

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Speaker 3: Trump takes office. In other words, the Biden administration is

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Speaker 3: going to hand out as much of your tax money

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Speaker 3: their cronies in the green energy world, knowing that they

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Speaker 3: Energy Loan office quadrupled it's available lending budget over two

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Speaker 3: as it's becoming more and more clear that, for instance,

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Speaker 3: The numbers aren't there, the environmental impact isn't there. None

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Speaker 3: of it's there. It's just handing out money to cronies.

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Speaker 3: Let's say one more, Ah, this is important. The Customs

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Speaker 3: into shape. Well, Biden's active too. The Biden Harris Customs

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Speaker 3: You can now put your pronoun up there in your

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Speaker 2: It's on the screen for your name, free meeting.

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Speaker 3: Brother.

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Speaker 2: That's great.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, isn't that just desperate and stupid? And it'll be

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Speaker 3: rolled back immediately. Yeah, and there's a sister story to that.

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Speaker 3: The online guide that the Customs and Border Patrol. Let's

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Speaker 3: see what else could they be doing? Hmm, nothing I

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Speaker 3: government directs the good folks to you see Davis, only

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Speaker 2: Who's you see Davis?

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Speaker 3: Lgbt e QIA Recourse Center list fifty potential pronouns a

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Speaker 3: and it explains, in case you're unfamiliar with this, what

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Speaker 3: are pronouns? All? These did go first the strunken white

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Speaker 3: and we share pronouns because we want to avoid assuming

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Speaker 3: Blah blah blah. This is straight out of radical queer theory,

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Speaker 3: radical gender theory. Common pronouns include she here, there's, he, him, his, etcetera.

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Speaker 3: But then they get into the actual how to use

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Speaker 3: Well it depends do you use a co as your pronoun?

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Speaker 3: Co laughed? Ask Co, that's Co's pen that pens cos?

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Speaker 2: Did Co? Did Co enjoys co self? Does Core? Does

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Speaker 3: I think we all and I'm against obscenities in a

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Speaker 3: effing nuts, that's effing crazy, or that's effing stupid.

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Speaker 2: We're not gonna tell you which of those to choose.

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Speaker 2: It's up to you. You're an American. You got the

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Speaker 2: First Amendment.

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Speaker 3: When somebody says, you know, when when Professor Jones comes

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Speaker 3: There you go. You see how it works. Our system's

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Speaker 3: I've just become aware of Scott Jennings because he has

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Speaker 3: cut the crap. Don't don't mess around with us, just

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Speaker 4: I like you pitched us as not hippies, not uh

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Speaker 3: On the other end, right, just for goodness sakes, can

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Speaker 3: Obama deported lots and lots of people. You had nothing

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Speaker 2: It's crap, all right, all right, thank you?

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Speaker 3: And then you know I've got all I've got a

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Speaker 3: this was brilliant from Gerard Baker. I'm gonna hit you

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Speaker 3: What we all hope for is those radicals just nasty people.

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Speaker 3: capitulate to them, but that's what they're thinking, stand up

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Speaker 3: to it.

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Speaker 4: I'm less optimistic on the illegal immigration part because I've

438
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Speaker 4: been fooled before. But on the trans and anti racist

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Speaker 4: and what was the other one I was going to

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Speaker 4: include in that it'll come to me.

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Speaker 3: But on a couple of those, is it possible? Oh,

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Speaker 3: the climate change? Is it possible.

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Speaker 4: We're on the other side of those, and we just all, unfortunately,

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Speaker 4: those of us of a certain age, just lived through

445
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Speaker 4: this really weird time. Yeah, we're things. People said all

446
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Speaker 4: kinds of crazy stuff and you had to.

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Speaker 2: Go along with it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we're at this stage of it where

449
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Speaker 3: the troops are rallied. Were aware, we're fired up. But

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Speaker 3: you got to remember the enemy is absolutely running our

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Speaker 3: nation's educational complex right now, and our media and entertainment.

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Speaker 3: But education is the most insidious part because they're indoctrinating

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Speaker 3: our kids. So, yeah, the battle has just begun. Here's

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Speaker 3: another great one, another one of these insane ideas that

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Speaker 3: we've been forced to pretend are not idiotic. The idea

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Speaker 3: that children should, without parental consultation or consent, be free

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Speaker 3: to choose their gender, be assisted by the state in

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Speaker 3: committing acts of self mutilation to do so, and all

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Speaker 3: on the understanding that we have repealed millennia of science

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Speaker 3: and just discovered there's no such thing as biological sex.

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Speaker 2: Full ass, cut the crap.

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Speaker 4: I think that one is the biggest anchor around Gavin

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Speaker 4: Newsom's neck if he tries to run for president, how's

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Speaker 4: he gonna how's he gonna deal with that.

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Speaker 3: Expiring experimenting on and mutilating children because they're momentarily confused

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Speaker 3: and adolescence.

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Speaker 4: And Gavin signed in law the idea that the schools

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Speaker 4: can keep it a secret from you, so that in fact,

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Speaker 4: they must. How does how does he deal with that?

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Speaker 4: I want that's one of the reasons I want him

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Speaker 4: to run. I want him to be beaten like a

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Speaker 4: drum for these reasons, because it's important to defeat this crap.

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Speaker 2: There's a little more.

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Speaker 3: More of the Emperor's new clothes that people have just

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Speaker 3: been walking around silently, pretending they didn't notice or too

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Speaker 3: afraid to resist. The idea that democracy and freedom are

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Speaker 3: best protected by denying people the right to express certain

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Speaker 3: views that the authorities deem misinformation, and by weaponized the

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Speaker 3: law against political opponents lest they weaponize the law for

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Speaker 3: political purposes.

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Speaker 2: That's a good one.

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Speaker 3: They're actually democrats out right now saying, hey, you know,

483
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Speaker 3: weaponizing law against candidates is probably a bad strategy, admitting

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Speaker 3: that that was the strategy. So ambitious elites in business

485
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Speaker 3: and civil society went along with these fictions. Politicians on

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Speaker 3: all sides, including Republicans, declined to dissent for fear.

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Speaker 2: Of being called out.

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Speaker 3: And here's where Gerard Baker gives Trump a fair amount

489
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Speaker 3: of credit. It took a man with some of the

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Speaker 3: instincts of a child, a political angenoux newcomer, lacking the

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Speaker 3: sophistication to participate in the sham, to call the whole

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Speaker 3: thing out for what it was. And then he makes

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Speaker 3: it clear that he's not like totally in on Trump

494
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Speaker 3: and his plans and his policies and the rest of it.

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Speaker 3: But for God's sake, we needed to call bulls on

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Speaker 3: the bulls. But here's what I'm optimistic about. He says,

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Speaker 3: four years from now, there's a good chance that the

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Speaker 3: nonsense we have had to endure will be buried, that

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Speaker 3: important things will become normal again. It will have become

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Speaker 3: normal to tell people they have who have no right

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Speaker 3: to be here, that they must leave. That In the process,

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Speaker 3: people around the world will have been made to understand

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Speaker 3: that they don't have an automatic right to live in

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Speaker 3: the freest, most prosperous country on earth. Then he goes

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Speaker 3: on the children. You know, I'm going to hit this

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Speaker 3: because it's one of my jihods. It will have become

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Speaker 3: normal again for children to be helped to respond to

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Speaker 3: the inevitable strains and traumas of growing up, not by

509
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Speaker 3: having their genitals cut out, but by receiving loving guidance,

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Speaker 3: guidance and care from family and society.

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Speaker 2: Got the crab I hope that's true. I hope that's true.

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Speaker 2: I think it's true.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, but again, it's going to be longer and

514
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Speaker 3: harder battle than four years. Man the university system and

515
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Speaker 3: their influence on the elementary education system and secondary.

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Speaker 2: It's going to be a long, hard fight. But I'm

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Speaker 2: up for it. Are you?

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Speaker 5: Jack Armstrong and Joe Gerty The Armstrong and Getty Show,

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Speaker 5: The Armstrong and Getty Show.

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Speaker 2: Chris Ruffo, you know him, you love him?

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Speaker 3: With a great piece Why Boeing killed Dei and the

522
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Speaker 3: lead is the important part of reckoning is underway in

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Speaker 3: corporate America. You remember, after the death of George Floyd

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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty, like every Fortune five hundred company launched

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Speaker 3: a diversity, equity and inclusion program with very serious faces

526
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Speaker 3: as they were running terrified from the Marxists who claimed

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Speaker 3: racial justice was their motivation. But now four short years later,

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Speaker 3: many companies are quietly acknowledging the failure of these initiatives,

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Speaker 3: in some cases winding them down. And Rufo has been

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Speaker 3: writing about Dei at Boeing for a while. He's got

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Speaker 3: an inside source, well placed, high up, that described it

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Speaker 3: this way quote.

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Speaker 2: I thought this was really good.

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Speaker 3: DEI is the drop you put in the bucket and

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Speaker 3: the whole bucket changes. It is anti excellence, and because

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Speaker 3: it is ill defined, it becomes.

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Speaker 2: Part of the culture.

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Speaker 4: That is some of the most evocative phrasing I've ever heard. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: the drop you put in the bucket and it changes

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Speaker 4: the whole bucket. That's interesting, folks.

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Speaker 3: You've become aware that the whole woke thing DEI anti

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00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 3: racism thing, you can't win. It's a constantly moving target.

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00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 3: Do you say you're not a racist, you're a racist.

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Speaker 3: And if you say you're a racist, you're a racist.

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Speaker 3: But either way you shut up. We're in charge. There's

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Speaker 3: no way to win against the woke people. That's not

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Speaker 3: part of it. They're not talking to you to come

548
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Speaker 3: to an understanding. They're talking to you to rule you.

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Speaker 3: And more people are understanding that. And in the context

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Speaker 3: of Boeing, obviously you know the doors are falling off

551
00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 3: your planes for instance. Yeah, early you know this month

552
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Speaker 3: Boeing installed new CEO Kelly Ortberg, quietly dismantled the DEI

553
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Speaker 3: department and accepted the resignation of the office's vice president.

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Speaker 3: So Rufo reached out to the same insider to get

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Speaker 3: insight onto what happened and how it happened, and he says,

556
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Speaker 3: tell us what happened with DEI. It went from dominant

557
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Speaker 3: to extinct in a very short period of time. The

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Speaker 3: insider says, we're shifting from a company whose culture is

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Speaker 3: simply the average of corporate America to a distinct and

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Speaker 3: deliberate vision of leadership. The new boss wants Boeing focused

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Speaker 3: on being an airplane company with our own culture and vision.

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Speaker 3: The resulting cash crunch from the crunch from the strike

563
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Speaker 3: accelerated this culture shift. When you start to focus on

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Speaker 3: delivering value instead of preserving status, it becomes obvious what

565
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Speaker 3: drives value and it's not DI And then he gets

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Speaker 3: into he asked my senses that many executives are not

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Speaker 3: genuinely committed to DEIS and ideology. They simply want to

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Speaker 3: build airplanes or create software, for instance, but they feel

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Speaker 3: social pressure to maintain these departments. Is that true at

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Speaker 3: Boeing and if so, when did the calculus change? And

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00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 3: the answer is DEI is lazy thought leadership best practiced

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Speaker 3: by companies in smooth waters with margins large enough to

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Speaker 3: afford the associated inefficiency that isn't Boeing today When the

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Speaker 3: new boss prioritized results over fitting in with other CEOs,

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Speaker 3: it sends a strong signal to the culture and builds

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Speaker 3: trust because employees know the rules and it's clear how

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Speaker 3: to succeed through hard work and results. McKinsey's at the

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Speaker 3: Consulting Group now debunked analysis was the standard driver in

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Speaker 3: corporate boardrooms. But even if DEI has to defend itself

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Speaker 3: on purely logical grounds, it doesn't stand up. Boeing more

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Speaker 3: than anything, needs an aligned workforce focused on building airplanes.

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Speaker 3: And it's an easy decision to reject the divisive and

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Speaker 3: US centric language of DEI in favor of unified vision

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Speaker 3: for a diverse global company. Anyway, I thought that that

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Speaker 3: was really good just as a description of how it works.

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Speaker 4: INDI could go away under a Trump administration, which won't

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Speaker 4: be you know, working to push that on corporate America,

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Speaker 4: Whereas if the Kamala Harris administration, there would have been

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00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 4: so much pressure on all these companies to continue that

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Speaker 4: or add it if they hadn't already.

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Speaker 3: Right, and it's it's a bludgeon again. It's not about

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Speaker 3: racial justice or any of the things that claims to

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Speaker 3: be about. Like in jackscenario, which is a good one.

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Speaker 3: The Harris administration wanted Boeing to suddenly, you know, unionize

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Speaker 3: its last three facilities or something like that. Well, then

596
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 3: they could hammer them with DEI stuff or through their

597
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 3: DEI executives and get them on their knees begging for

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Speaker 3: mercy because they were being accused of racism. It's the

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Speaker 3: old Jesse Jackson operation push blackmail scam. You don't want

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Speaker 3: racial justice, you want something else, but you use claims

601
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 3: of racial injustice to get there. It's the race hustler thing. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: I thought this was good too. From the National Review,

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Speaker 3: Lathan Watts. DEI is a corporate bust, and he starts

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Speaker 3: about the He starts with the wild overreaction to the

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Speaker 3: death of George Floyd and how all the corporations were terrified,

606
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Speaker 3: and how Robbie Starbuck, the filmmaker, has been using sunlight

607
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 3: as the best disinfectant, and he's brought failed policies that

608
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 3: are legally questionable and highly unpopular with consumers to the

609
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Speaker 3: attention the general public and the shareholders of these corporations.

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Speaker 3: As a result, some of the best known brands in

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Speaker 3: the country have hastily canceled their DEI programs and cut

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Speaker 3: ties with the far left Human Rights Campaign, which pressures

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Speaker 3: companies to do things like cover sex hormones and puberty

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Speaker 3: blockers for miners. Wow, monstrous Nazia like experiments on children

615
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Speaker 3: to cover that stuff and their insurance plan. Wow yeah yeah,

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Speaker 3: And I thought this was interesting. Unwilling to let the

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Speaker 3: practical failure of a policy distract from the political fervor,

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Speaker 3: forty nine members of Congress, keeping in mind their four

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Speaker 3: hundred and thirty five of these geeks, spurred on signed

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Speaker 3: an open letter to Fortune one thousand businesses demanding that

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Speaker 3: they doubled down on DEI. But these companies have recently

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Speaker 3: received two more open letters encouraging them to hold the

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Speaker 3: line in favor of healthy ROI return on investment over

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Speaker 3: feeble DEI ideology.

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Speaker 4: I like that slogan, AREI not DEI for the companies

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Speaker 4: I want to invest in?

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Speaker 3: I love that the second of those two letters came

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Speaker 3: from seventeen state treasurers and other financial officials State of

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Speaker 3: financial officials who are responsible for the gigantic state investment

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Speaker 3: vehicles that hold billions of dollars in ownership positions in

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Speaker 3: these companies for their retirees and that sort of thing.

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Speaker 3: And unlike the partisan gamesmanship paraphrasing the piece of the

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Speaker 3: National Review here where the forty nine Congress geeks liberal

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Speaker 3: CULTI jackasses are saying, you've got to double down on DII,

635
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 3: these people a saying, hey, we don't have the luxury

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Speaker 3: of you and your virtue signaling crap which you run

637
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 3: your company for efficiency, please not to please AOC. And

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00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 3: so it's good to see you. Remember it was what

639
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 3: a year ago I started saying. And all DEI programs

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00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:22,280
Speaker 3: now wherever they exist, and it's happening in spades. Hurrah, hourrah,

641
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 3: better for black people, better for white and Hispanic people. People,

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00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 3: in short, go get them awesome. The tide shure turned

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00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:34,320
Speaker 3: on that whole thing fast. Yeah, although it is still

644
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 3: monstrous in academia, media, Hollywood, and government in government itself, friends,

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Speaker 3: which is why I am always saying, this is just

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Speaker 3: the end of the beginning.

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Speaker 2: Quick question for.

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Speaker 2: No demand download it now.

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Speaker 3: Armstrong and Getty on demand, Armstrong and Getty