1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: Welcome to Truth Hounds, a production of My Heart Radio. 2 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: I'm Anna and I've been unemployed for two years now, 3 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: so i really have nothing going on. And I'm Kyle 4 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 1: and in middle school I received the ward most Enthusiastic 5 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: to Learn. So that makes me pretty special. And that 6 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:25,920 Speaker 1: is what makes us the perfect investigative duo. We are 7 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: two friends who love each other very much. But what 8 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: we love even more is getting to the bottom of mysteries. 9 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: All mysteries, sure, but small mysteries specifically. Trust me, No 10 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 1: mystery is too small. No, no, no, Why don't you 11 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: trust me when I tell you we are ready to 12 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: sniff around? We are the the truth Hounds. Previously on 13 00:00:54,200 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: Truth Hounds, Oh my, what is that? What is that? Deep? 14 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: Macromy the director of the festival, looked terrifying. We can 15 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: make something really sick and really spooky that also has 16 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: a social commentary that's for the good of you for long. 17 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 1: You know what, We're going to make the short in 18 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: four hours. Something you probably can't tell right here is 19 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 1: that I'm actually terrified. How did this happen? What happened? 20 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: What is this? Um? It is one pm um and 21 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: there's just been a break in the case, I got 22 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: an email, and um I told Anna about it. Let 23 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: me just get this my shirt. I'm trying to get 24 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: myself together. Um Anna's coming over in a few minutes, 25 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: so we can go over it. Oh my god. Episode five, 26 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: What is fear? And why can't I away hard for? Okay? Um, 27 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: I'm just getting to Kyle's. Ok Okay are you? Oh 28 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:30,959 Speaker 1: my god? Oh, let's go. Okay. So it's so crazy meat, 29 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: So we have we got an email. So I just 30 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: wanted you to come over to your okay, okay, okay, okay, 31 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 1: Oh my god, okay, Oh my god, just perpetually running. Okay, 32 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: let me see okay, Okay, I haven't got it. I 33 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 1: wanted to get it. I don't see it in my embo. 34 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: Oh my okay, Oh my god, Oh my god, okay, 35 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 1: super oh my god. Read this entire email entire Okay, 36 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 1: there's tune to this email, but the words got it, 37 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 1: got it to comfirm you received and ready to entirely. 38 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: Failure to follow directions could result in a loss of 39 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: an official selection status. Wait does that mean wait? Wait 40 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: for receiving possible honorable mention? Okay, congratulations official? Oh my, 41 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: oh my god, oh my god. Wait virtual show? What wait? Wait? Wait, 42 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: your film is an official selection? Okay, virtual show taking 43 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 1: place this sympe Okay, wait one second? Okay, so attached 44 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 1: to this email as your official bullet Laurel. Be sure 45 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: to attach it to your poster and shared on social media, 46 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: tagging us. Okay, what's next? We needed the little copy 47 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: of your film, masap um. If your film is not 48 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: in English, please have English. I was up virtual screen 49 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: or submission deadline? Wait and then there's this Okay, wait, 50 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: let me see. We are currently organizing our virtual festival 51 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: this year. Do you have experience that the climate is 52 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 1: still not conducive for the types of live events we 53 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: tend to organize, which are usually balls to the wall. 54 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: We do make our virtual shows both memorable and valuable 55 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 1: to our filmmakers, and our main page does have sample 56 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 1: videos the virtual events we organized throughout the pandemic for reference. Ha. Wait, 57 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:50,359 Speaker 1: but so the regular funds are balls to the wall. Yeah? Wait, wait, 58 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: so we got Okay, I just want to look at this. 59 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: Wait where does it wait? But why does it say 60 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,040 Speaker 1: why does it say did you get your ticket? It? 61 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: Because if we got wait, but we got in, so 62 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: why when we probably know, we probably don't need to 63 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: get because if you got in, you probably you need 64 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 1: to reserve your virtual ticket online to participate in the festival. 65 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: We've been emailing you know that probably just means, like 66 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 1: you you reserve your spot online, just that you're you're 67 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: going to be attending. Like that probably doesn't mean then 68 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 1: what is that you must purchase a ticket to participate? Wait? Yes, 69 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: so even it says here, yes, even filmmakers need to 70 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: purchase a take to purchase a ticket to access the show. 71 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: I'm sorry for a virtue. So for a gig or 72 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: who got in, which is us, you have to purchase 73 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 1: a ticket to attend your own screening, which is online. Wait, Belower, 74 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: about how much does it take? Belower to available ticket? 75 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 1: Use the code for fifty okay off your ticket pages? Well, 76 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: how much is that fifty three dollars plush tags? So 77 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: for us to screen our short online is at least 78 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: fifty dollars. I mean, putting something on YouTube is for free. 79 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: I just and it's not even going to be balls 80 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: to the wall. Oh my god, I'm gonna I'm gonna 81 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 1: trun off the party. Yeah, so a lot just happened. 82 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:56,799 Speaker 1: Let's just take a moment to talk about everything. Remember 83 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: that this whole investigation was about meeting this one trigging 84 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:04,840 Speaker 1: yet terrifying man, Beat Macromy who happened to be in 85 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 1: charge of the festival. What initially drew us to him 86 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: was quite simple. He seemed to be super weird because 87 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: he was the director of this film festival. We decided 88 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: the most direct way to meet him would be to 89 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: infiltrate the festival. That meant making a movie, and making 90 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: a movie was no easy feat. In fact, it entailed 91 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: a lot. We had to hire a director, find a 92 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: screenwriter who understood our vision, fundraise for the eventual submission, fee, 93 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: pets and salad for the day of the shoe, work 94 00:07:56,160 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: with a reputable acting coach, higher actor, one of whom 95 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: was Anna's crush, and finally shooting edit the damn thing. 96 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: All of that had to happen in order for this 97 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: one moment to exist. But the thing about this moment, 98 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: it didn't even guarantee we would meet Bet Macromy. No, 99 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: it just got us here to the front door of 100 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:33,439 Speaker 1: the festival. But now that we were at the front door, 101 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 1: he hardly felt celebrating because we just learned he would 102 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:48,079 Speaker 1: still cost us a hundred dollars plus tax to step inside. Sure, 103 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:53,719 Speaker 1: he offered us a discount on the tickets, but that 104 00:08:53,840 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: didn't matter because the principle of the matter, meeting Beat 105 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: back room and confronting our fear, it's beginning to cost 106 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 1: us a lot of money. In fact, we now faced 107 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 1: a question, is confronting your fear worth approximately three? Honestly, 108 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 1: I didn't know. Let's take an even further step back. 109 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 1: If this was a virtual event, would we even get 110 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:33,439 Speaker 1: to meet Beat macromy We had done all of this 111 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: so we could face our fear, but how would we 112 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: be able to do that on a computer screen? I mean, 113 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: zoom is good, but it ain't that good. Discovering that 114 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: there was an admission fee for the filmmakers who were 115 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:57,599 Speaker 1: accepted into the festival definitely left a sour taste in 116 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: our mouths. And as far are is, not getting to 117 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:04,199 Speaker 1: meet Beat Macromay in person, that felt like a blow 118 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:08,959 Speaker 1: to the investigation. It definitely meant that there was further 119 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: to go. Basically, our investigation wouldn't end after attending this festival, 120 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 1: but it would definitely answer some questions and assist us 121 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 1: in eventually getting there. There being meeting Beat Macromain in 122 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: the flesh. We were on the right path. It's just 123 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 1: that the path now looked a bit different. We had 124 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 1: no choice but to keep going. We were into deep 125 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: so we came up with another plan, fund raise and 126 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: additional fifty dollars to pay for our ticket to attend 127 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: the festival so we could see Beat Macromain on a 128 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:04,439 Speaker 1: computer screen. For now. We did, but we have historically 129 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: done best. We put up a post on Instagram. I 130 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:12,599 Speaker 1: typed up a lengthy letter appealing to my followers. It 131 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:20,679 Speaker 1: was verbos, but it was from the heart. I don't 132 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: quite know how to say this, but our short film 133 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:30,079 Speaker 1: Core is an official selection for the two thou Festival, 134 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: taking place virtually this year. It cost us a hundred 135 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 1: fifty dollars to submit, so needless to say, we were 136 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: very nervous to hear the outcome of the decision. We 137 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: couldn't have done this without our Indigo Go donors, because 138 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: of whom we were able to afford the submission, as 139 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 1: well as pizza and salad for the day of the shoot. 140 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:54,719 Speaker 1: And a huge thank you to our talented Cask and 141 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: the only director brave enough to believe in us play 142 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: taking h now here comes the hard part. Moments after 143 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: we found out that we were selected, we were told 144 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 1: that on top of the hundred fifty dollar submission fee, 145 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 1: we have to pay to attend the screening. Even as 146 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 1: the film's creators, the cost to attend fifty three dollars. 147 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: This does not come easily, especially with the holidays around 148 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: the corner. We do not have time to fundraise, so 149 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: we instead asked that you ven Momie, and our goal 150 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: is to allow everyone who was involved a ticket. Please 151 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: donate what you can. Within minutes, we raised fifty three dollars, 152 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: which would grant us one ticket to attend the festival. 153 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: And keep in mind we had already spent a hundred 154 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 1: and fifty dollars to apply. I guess you can't put 155 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:14,959 Speaker 1: a price tag on art, but just for the record, 156 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,559 Speaker 1: if we did put a price tag on art, it 157 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: would read two hundred three dollars. This was a virtual event, 158 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: which came as a complete surprise to us. Remember we 159 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 1: had been anticipating booking flights, renting gowns and tuxedos, taking 160 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 1: a limo. The whole crew is there. We are passing 161 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:47,959 Speaker 1: a bottle of champagne around. Everyone is taking a big gulp, 162 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: except for Kyle because she has some sparkling apple cider. 163 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 1: She's been sober for five years actually, But we talked 164 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 1: about it beforehand and it's not a big deal, and 165 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:01,439 Speaker 1: she's super comfortable with us during king around her, and 166 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: she's cheers in us like she's also drinking champagne. But again, 167 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 1: I do assure you it is apple cider, And in 168 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: some ways I'm jealous because I think apple cider actually 169 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 1: tastes better than champagne. In fact, a lot of alcohol 170 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 1: tastes really bad, which brings to mind the question are 171 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: we just pretending anyway? To reiterate, this was a virtual event, 172 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: so we did have to scale back, but we still 173 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: wanted it to be fun and feel like a celebration, 174 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 1: so we invited a bunch of our friends over to 175 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 1: Anna's house, six of them to be exact. And before 176 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: you feel too bad for us, check this out. We 177 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: only purchased one admission ticket, and there would actually be 178 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: about eight of us technically attending the event, which means 179 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: one ticket it is fifty three dollars, So theoretically eight 180 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: tickets would equal four d four dollars, but we only 181 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: bought one, which means we technically saved three hundred and 182 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 1: seventy one dollars. So if anything, we won at last 183 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: the night was here, we would finally attend the festival 184 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 1: and get a glimpse of the mystery man himself. Beep 185 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 1: macromy Now again, we wouldn't actually be meeting him in person, 186 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: but we would be damn close to it. Oh my god, 187 00:15:50,120 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: they're here. Oh my god. Sorry, everybody, chocolates. If that 188 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: voice sounds familiar to you, decorative chocolates, it's because it is. 189 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: That's Megan, the mean person with whom we did a 190 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: right along in season one. But that doesn't affect me. 191 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 1: All I care about his mind getting my nuts. You 192 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: might be thinking to yourself, she doesn't actually sound that mean, 193 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 1: and she brought decorative chocolate. Correct a mundo. It turned 194 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: out that Megan was no longer mean, and all it 195 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: took was her finding love. Huh makes you think? So? Oh? 196 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 1: Rod's here? Also? Okay, let's see it's her friend Rod 197 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: from from before. Do you remember Perfect Day Rod from 198 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: the White Is Giving Back Feels So Good episode from 199 00:16:56,880 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: season one? He was here too, and he wanted to 200 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 1: celebrate our film. Our friends Claire and Nick came as well, 201 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 1: and everyone got settled in Anna's cozy living room. We 202 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:14,360 Speaker 1: waited for our brave director Clay to arrive. We did 203 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 1: our best to make our guests feel very comfy. We 204 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 1: come on, Hi, how are you? How do you want 205 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 1: to tea or spend drift or one of four beers? 206 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: Four beers okay, maid a total of two dollars at 207 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 1: this point to be in this festival. So this is 208 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:39,120 Speaker 1: kind of a big night for us. So we're expecting 209 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 1: this link to come any moment. Of course, we we 210 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 1: did get into the festival um and so now we 211 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 1: are waiting for a link to the festival. The Lord ceremony, 212 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: it's toasted by a man named Oh here it is, 213 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 1: Oh here it is? Do you want to Oh? I 214 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 1: didn't know it was going to start so soon. And 215 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: and our director, our brave director Clay is supposed to come, 216 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: although his eighteen minutes, so we st no, we won't 217 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 1: be watching our short. So that's that's I hope everybody's 218 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 1: on board with that play. Got there right in time. 219 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: Oh wow, let's starting. I know things are getting really good, 220 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,639 Speaker 1: but we have to take a break for some ads. 221 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: And the ad break is over back to it. What 222 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 1: we saw next was um confusing to say the least. 223 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 1: O yes, let me be your eyes. What looked to 224 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 1: be just someone's basement appeared on the screen. Either our 225 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: or their internet connection was bad, we weren't sure who's. 226 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 1: Either way, the screen looked very pixelated. The audio quality 227 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: it was horrendous. It sounded like someone was holding their 228 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 1: iPhone in a different room hoping that we would be 229 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: able to hear it in this room. Honestly, it was 230 00:19:54,359 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: hard to tell what was what. In fact, at this 231 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,959 Speaker 1: point it looked like someone just forgot to turn off 232 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 1: their web camera and now we had to look into 233 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 1: their weird room. In fact, if they hadn't framed the 234 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: shot with black curtains as though it were a stage, 235 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 1: we wouldn't have believed it was on purpose. I know, 236 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: Anna said let me be your eyes, but actually we 237 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 1: can't be your eyes because in that moment we had 238 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 1: no idea what the hell we were actually looking at. 239 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 1: We looked at this for about ten minutes. Nothing happened. Then, 240 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,159 Speaker 1: just as we thought that maybe beat macromy himself had 241 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: forgotten about the festival altogether, there something appeared on the screen. 242 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 1: There was no doubt in my little mind it was him. 243 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 1: Kyle and I gripped each other's hands as we looked 244 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:22,679 Speaker 1: at him. I wish you guys were there to stare 245 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 1: at the computer screen and hold hands with us, because 246 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 1: what we saw was almost indescribable. But I'll try. This 247 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: was beat Macromay. Remember the man who appeared so crooked 248 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 1: in his picture that he seemed to be almost diagonal. 249 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 1: The man whose contact lenses were so white it was 250 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: hard to tell if you're looking at death itself. The 251 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:03,239 Speaker 1: man we knew very little about, except that he had 252 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: a very interesting potential roommate, and it was a doll. 253 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 1: This was him, all right, And this time he was 254 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: even scarier because this time he did not appear to 255 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:28,120 Speaker 1: be crooked. No, this time he appeared to be very upright, 256 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 1: And that confirmed the scariest part of all. He was real. 257 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: Tonight it was clearly a special night for Beet macromy 258 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 1: because tonight he dawned a black cloak. This cloak was 259 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: all black, but his face was all white, devoid of 260 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:09,439 Speaker 1: all proof of life. He moved unpredictably across the zoom screen, 261 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 1: as if his ancestors had been lizard. He slithered contorting 262 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:20,360 Speaker 1: his body, paying homage to paganistic rituals that had come 263 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 1: before him. He was hypnotizing, and we watched him and 264 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 1: pointed silence, and then at last he opened his mouth, 265 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 1: for it was time to speak. Disclaimer, we cannot play 266 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 1: the audio of beat Macromy's real voice. Instead, a brave editor, 267 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:56,360 Speaker 1: Adam has once again doctored the audio. It's time, It's 268 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 1: time for the show to begin. The next thing that 269 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 1: came out of Beep's mouth was really unexpected because it 270 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 1: was not worked. No, it was singing. Again. We cannot 271 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 1: play the original audio here, but we thought it was 272 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 1: important to preserve the spirit of what we heard because 273 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: our editor Adam refused to sing, stating that he was 274 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 1: an editor, not a singer. I Kyle did the honors. 275 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 1: I was on an a pirate ship and she was 276 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 1: all that cared. I was on an a pirate ship, 277 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 1: and she was all that cared. The singing was very interesting. 278 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:49,360 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say it was scary, but that's just one 279 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:53,120 Speaker 1: reporter's opinion. What's scary to me might not be scary 280 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 1: to someone else. I don't know their life anyways, beat 281 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 1: macrom I took a second from being terrifying to let 282 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: us all know that this was an award ceremony and 283 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,440 Speaker 1: all the films accepted into the festival were in the 284 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:13,120 Speaker 1: running to win awards in various categories. This was news 285 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 1: to us. There were categories. What were the categories? Scary 286 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 1: and more scary? The strange thing was when we took 287 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:35,239 Speaker 1: a closer look at the programming, we realized there were 288 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 1: indeed many categories that spanned way beyond horror, drama, comedy, 289 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: sci fi, thriller, experimental documentary, and then this is very peculiar, 290 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 1: there was even a category for and I quote everything 291 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:06,159 Speaker 1: in between. Um, not to be a total square, but 292 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 1: you call yourself a horror film festival, wouldn't you? And 293 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 1: again not to have my shirt buttoned all the way 294 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 1: up to the top or anything like that, But wouldn't 295 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 1: you only have horror films at your festival? But Anna, 296 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 1: it's okay, sure all those people representing all those categories 297 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: would be at the festival. And by that I do 298 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 1: mean this um zoom meeting. But we knew what we had, 299 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 1: and we knew we represented horror. So we opened a 300 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,920 Speaker 1: second window on our computer screen and let the zoom meeting. 301 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,160 Speaker 1: I mean the festival play in the background for a moment, 302 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,679 Speaker 1: and went to the horror film section in the programming. 303 00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 1: We excitedly scanned the names here, we're our peers, are contemporaries, 304 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: our brothers in horror, and our horror brothers. That's right, Kyle. 305 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:20,160 Speaker 1: They were there too, I mean, people who were cut 306 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:24,640 Speaker 1: from the same cloth as us, and soon we would 307 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 1: be standing with them, shoulder to shoulder, waiting to hear 308 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 1: the name of the winner, content to knowing we were 309 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 1: all winners for just being accepted into this festival and 310 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 1: being in the business of horror. But something happened. Our 311 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 1: name wasn't there. Wait, that couldn't be. We had made 312 00:27:56,359 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 1: a horror short film. We scrolled through the programming in 313 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: disbelief while the zoom meeting um, I mean festival continued 314 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 1: to play in the background, And finally there were our names. 315 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 1: We were in a category all right, in that category comedy. 316 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 1: What I don't understand. We did everything right. We both 317 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 1: ran backwards, both of us. That's never been done in 318 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 1: a horror thing to my knowledge. No, Kyle, I promise 319 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 1: you it was really scary. I can't even think about 320 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 1: it too much or or else. I won't be able 321 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: to fall asleep at night. It was really scary, I promise. 322 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 1: Let's just try to take this as a compliment. Beat 323 00:28:56,320 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 1: macromy himself thinks that we're so funny that you thought 324 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 1: our horror short was, you know, a comedy. But Anna, 325 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 1: I hate to tell you this, it was not funny, 326 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 1: not in the least. Um. But you know, you're you're 327 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 1: you're awesome. Um, you are beautiful in every single way. 328 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 1: Uch can stop that, I know what you're doing. Okay. 329 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 1: So we found out, much to our disbelief, that the 330 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 1: festival had categorized as a comedy. And you know what, 331 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 1: that was fine. Sometimes when you make art and you 332 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 1: put it out into the world, it ceases to be 333 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 1: in your control and the audience gets to decide it's meaning. 334 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 1: So we decided it was fine. Now we closed the 335 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 1: web browser and brought the zoom meeting. I'm so sorry, 336 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 1: I mean the festival to the foreground, hit enter full 337 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 1: screen mode and sat back in anticipation of the comedy category. 338 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: And now it's the award for the best Comedy Film. Stephanie, 339 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 1: where are you? What happened next was a bit jarring. 340 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 1: A woman stepped onto the screen beautiful, well dressed, seemingly 341 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 1: at odds with the otherwise scary atmosphere of the festival. Typically, 342 00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 1: award ceremonies often have guest presenters m and in this 343 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 1: way the festival was no different. We listened for our 344 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 1: name to be called, sitting at the edge of our seats. 345 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 1: Would they call our name, meaning would our film be nominated? 346 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 1: We knew our film was good, but was it award worthy? 347 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 1: I don't know if there's a different area, and I 348 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 1: don't know what happened, but our name wasn't called. We 349 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 1: were devastated, but Clay, our brave director, assured us that 350 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 1: the nomination was probably on its way. I mean, there 351 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 1: would probably be another category for dark comedy, and our 352 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 1: name would certainly be there. I mean, Clay was right. 353 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 1: Our short film sat at the delicious intersection of comedy 354 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 1: and horror dark comedy. The dark comedy category just never came. 355 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 1: It was sort of like waiting at a train station 356 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 1: for your beloved to come back from war. You look, 357 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 1: and you look. John comes out and hugs his wife, 358 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 1: Dave comes out and hugs his kids. Robert comes out 359 00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 1: and pets his dog. Steve in Tyler Morris, They all 360 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 1: come out. But where's Albert, you fault to your knees. 361 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 1: He's definitely dead and not coming back from war. The 362 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 1: wave of people around you washes away. You are left alone, 363 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 1: and the train conductor comes over and sternly taps you 364 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 1: on the shoulder. Ma'am, you have to get up. You're loitering, 365 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 1: you say, But but my Albert. What Albert, ma'am. I've 366 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 1: heard this to him before. He ain't coming back. This 367 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 1: is bullshit. I'm sorry for cursing. It's just informed that 368 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 1: we have a twelve year old fan. And to you, 369 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 1: I say, I'm sorry, but my heart isn't a million 370 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 1: pieces right now, and it's a little hard to think 371 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 1: about protecting you in this moment. But I know that 372 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:09,440 Speaker 1: you are out there and I think you're awesome, and 373 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 1: just be honest with you, guys for a second. You 374 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 1: the listeners, the festival, it was bad, In fact, it 375 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 1: was awful. And this next word, it requires a bit 376 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 1: of a trigger warning you're about to hear. It might 377 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,879 Speaker 1: sound like an accusation, but you know what, here it goes. 378 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 1: The fact of the matter is we spent three dollars 379 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 1: to receive a zoom link. So this festival. It seemed 380 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 1: like a bad deal. That was our editor Adam. Again, 381 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 1: there was a particular word we had to avoid, so 382 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 1: every time it gets mentioned, you will instead hear the 383 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 1: words bad deal. Let's be honest, you don't need to 384 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:21,720 Speaker 1: be handled with kid gloves. The festival was a complete mess. 385 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:27,759 Speaker 1: What the previous audio didn't properly exhibit was that this 386 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 1: was a poorly organized event. It was a live stream 387 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 1: of some guys basement via zoom. His internet connection was 388 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:42,320 Speaker 1: extremely poor. He kept cutting out, to the point that 389 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 1: the other attendees virtually turned into a mob in the chat, 390 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 1: taping over and over that he needed to restart his 391 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 1: router again. The audio sounded like he was playing music 392 00:35:54,760 --> 00:36:00,360 Speaker 1: from an iPhone in another room. The ambiance was unperfect rational, 393 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 1: to say the least, it felt like at any minute, 394 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 1: beat mcarmy's roommate might open the door and yell at 395 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 1: him to keep it down and finally wash his dishes. 396 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:24,840 Speaker 1: We were heartbroken. There were no two ways to say that. Frankly, 397 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 1: we were embarrassed. I mean, we had gathered our closest 398 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,840 Speaker 1: friends to celebrate all of our hard work. I couldn't 399 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 1: help but feel like just leave my house, thinking to 400 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:44,879 Speaker 1: themselves a fucking loser. To our twelve year old fan, 401 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,920 Speaker 1: I see you, I hear you, and I want to 402 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:53,840 Speaker 1: protect you from how cruel the world can be. But 403 00:36:54,000 --> 00:37:01,279 Speaker 1: honestly having a really hard time right now. We were 404 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 1: completely dumbfounded. Not only were we embarrassed, but we were lost, 405 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 1: Like how did we even get here? I mean, before 406 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:17,319 Speaker 1: making the movie, before finding the website, I mean even 407 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 1: before the beach where we talked about who was afraid 408 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:23,440 Speaker 1: of rats and who was afraid of roaches? What had 409 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:28,680 Speaker 1: gotten us here? If I was being honest, I didn't 410 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:33,160 Speaker 1: just find the festival website by myself. I had heard 411 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 1: about it from a friend, someone who had come to 412 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:42,280 Speaker 1: me and said, you gotta check this out. We decided 413 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,960 Speaker 1: that it just made sense to retrace our steps. Maybe 414 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,719 Speaker 1: my friend would be able to shine some light on 415 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,680 Speaker 1: what had just happened and what we should do next. 416 00:37:54,520 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 1: So we gave my friend Chris a call um, not 417 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:14,279 Speaker 1: my crush Chris, my friend Chris, a different one, and 418 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:25,400 Speaker 1: now an ad break. The ad break is over. My 419 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:36,040 Speaker 1: name is Christopher Um, a director. One might say that's Chris. 420 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:40,520 Speaker 1: Chris and I had met through some mutual friends. He 421 00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 1: was an accomplished filmmaker and someone who you might say 422 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 1: was deep in the festival circuit and most important in 423 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:52,960 Speaker 1: this moment. He was actually the person who had originally 424 00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:58,800 Speaker 1: shown me the festival website. He was the whole reason 425 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:04,480 Speaker 1: that we knew about macromy which at this point I 426 00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:08,880 Speaker 1: sort of wish he had kept to himself. No offense. 427 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,799 Speaker 1: I think it was just, um, you know, you get 428 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:19,000 Speaker 1: emails for film festivals, cement our festival. The submission fee 429 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:24,279 Speaker 1: is still like kind of exorbitant, um. Yeah, yeah, and 430 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,040 Speaker 1: I think, um, this one was one of those ones. 431 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,759 Speaker 1: But yeah, I looked at the website. You know, he 432 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:36,440 Speaker 1: has something, you know, like just him himself. You know, 433 00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:38,880 Speaker 1: I don't. I was like, I wasn't. I wasn't particularly 434 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:43,359 Speaker 1: interested in the film festival, but I was. He seemed character. Um. 435 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:45,719 Speaker 1: So I think that's why I mentioned it to you. 436 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:49,920 Speaker 1: After Chris told us how he had come to find 437 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,839 Speaker 1: out about the festival, we shared what we had gone 438 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:57,600 Speaker 1: through and caught him up to date. Well. So we 439 00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:02,520 Speaker 1: became so kind of transfixed on this person that we 440 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:07,120 Speaker 1: decided that we would just make a movie to try 441 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:11,360 Speaker 1: to get in, to try to meet him, and the 442 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:17,360 Speaker 1: submission fee was a hundred fifty dollars. That's very excorted. 443 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:27,640 Speaker 1: That's absurd. I mean, I don't even a hundred fifty dollars. 444 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:33,120 Speaker 1: That just seems like you made that up. So we 445 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,600 Speaker 1: fundraised for that, and then we got in. And then 446 00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,279 Speaker 1: he's he's in the same email where he said you 447 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,800 Speaker 1: got in. He said, you also have to purchase a 448 00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:46,800 Speaker 1: ticket to attend the screening. And the ticket is fifty dollars. 449 00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:52,640 Speaker 1: It's actually fifty three dollars plus tax. Kris didn't mince 450 00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:58,040 Speaker 1: his words. And this next part what's really hard to hear. Yeah, 451 00:40:58,040 --> 00:40:59,600 Speaker 1: I mean this sounds like, you know, there was that 452 00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:04,160 Speaker 1: article and I think it's like the Hollywood Reporter about 453 00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:11,560 Speaker 1: kind of bad deal my film festivals. I'm sorry that, 454 00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,279 Speaker 1: you know, it sounds like kind of along those lines. 455 00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:24,239 Speaker 1: M hmm. That it was brutal to hear, but you 456 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:31,800 Speaker 1: know what we needed to hear it the festival was 457 00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:41,360 Speaker 1: this a bad deal? And beep macromy was a we 458 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:49,600 Speaker 1: had gotten. It's a bad deal. Hard We got off 459 00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:53,799 Speaker 1: the phone with Chris. Okay, um, this is a lot 460 00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:55,719 Speaker 1: to think about. Thank you so much, but thank you 461 00:41:55,840 --> 00:42:00,759 Speaker 1: so much for talking to us. Yeah, yeah, yeah, sorry 462 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:10,880 Speaker 1: about your bomber. I was so mad. In fact, I 463 00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:17,400 Speaker 1: was piste off. I should have seen this coming. How 464 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:23,480 Speaker 1: did I let myself fall for this? I am a confident, smart, 465 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:31,919 Speaker 1: beautiful woman. I mean, hello, I'm gorgeous. I should have known. 466 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:37,400 Speaker 1: I should have protected Kyle. I mean there were signs 467 00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:43,200 Speaker 1: all along. The festival never listed a location. One festival 468 00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,560 Speaker 1: employee listed her high school g p A and her 469 00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:50,439 Speaker 1: bio beat Macroman didn't even capitalize his own last name. 470 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,320 Speaker 1: They said a submission to the festival was a submission 471 00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:03,200 Speaker 1: to the way of the previously unfamiliar. Yeah, unfamiliar, bullshit. 472 00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:09,040 Speaker 1: I told Kyle, we are doing something about this. No 473 00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:14,000 Speaker 1: one bucks with us. I'm sorry, twelve year old fan, 474 00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:24,440 Speaker 1: but no one sucks with us. Wait wasn't there that 475 00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:27,800 Speaker 1: other festival, the one that reached out to us asking 476 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:32,400 Speaker 1: to screen our shirt OKI means short play the audio 477 00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:38,360 Speaker 1: from that moment We got it Instagram message. It says 478 00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:43,040 Speaker 1: I'd love to screen your shirt at my festival. We 479 00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,439 Speaker 1: would love to screen your shirt. Yeah, And I wrote 480 00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,319 Speaker 1: back and I said, WHOA do you mean short? Good 481 00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,279 Speaker 1: to clarify we would love that, and he said, I 482 00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:54,920 Speaker 1: absolutely meant short. And then I said awesome sauce. Tell 483 00:43:55,000 --> 00:44:03,200 Speaker 1: us when your festival is we will give you our short. Okay, um? Yeah. 484 00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:06,279 Speaker 1: He reached out and I we transferred our shirt I 485 00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:10,000 Speaker 1: mean short to him, but we never heard back. Wait you, 486 00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,960 Speaker 1: we transferred the short and he downloaded the short and 487 00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:16,239 Speaker 1: then we never heard back. What did he do with 488 00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:19,439 Speaker 1: the short? Is he doing something weird with the short 489 00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:23,480 Speaker 1: at his house? Look? This guy identified himself as a listener, 490 00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:27,239 Speaker 1: and you know that I love our listeners, including him, 491 00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:31,239 Speaker 1: and my love for our listeners knows no bounds. But 492 00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:35,319 Speaker 1: how could you do this to us? Kyle? Open up 493 00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:38,000 Speaker 1: our Instagram and follow up on his DM. Get me 494 00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:45,480 Speaker 1: get mad? Crack Hi, just wondering about your festival and 495 00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:48,840 Speaker 1: if our shirt just joking our short will be screened. 496 00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:59,680 Speaker 1: We waited for an answer. What came next was honestly unbelievable. Hello, Hello, 497 00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,920 Speaker 1: so funny. I was just thinking about y'all. I listened 498 00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,680 Speaker 1: to episode one of season two while cleaning my screen 499 00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:11,120 Speaker 1: printing shop yesterday. War opened our shirts I mean shorts 500 00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:18,680 Speaker 1: program on December eleven. A great response. He had screened 501 00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:23,520 Speaker 1: our short on December eleven and had not even invited us. 502 00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:29,920 Speaker 1: Where were we I mean it? Was sort of like 503 00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:33,200 Speaker 1: someone throwing a birthday party for you, but forgetting to 504 00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:39,200 Speaker 1: invite you. This guy was literally a listener, one of 505 00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:44,400 Speaker 1: you guys. That meant he was a loved one, and 506 00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:46,719 Speaker 1: to have a loved one stab you in the back 507 00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:50,080 Speaker 1: like this and then tap you on the shoulder and 508 00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,320 Speaker 1: say turn around real quick and let me stab you 509 00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:56,279 Speaker 1: in the front. How you're walking around with quite a 510 00:45:56,400 --> 00:46:06,040 Speaker 1: few stabs. Yeah, I'm sorry, this one hurts. We knew 511 00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:09,680 Speaker 1: what we had to do. We were not going to 512 00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:14,000 Speaker 1: make the listener pay because he's a listener, and that 513 00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:18,480 Speaker 1: actually cancels itself out. We actually really appreciated his support 514 00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:24,000 Speaker 1: and he seemed really cool. But beat Macromy. He was 515 00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:29,080 Speaker 1: going to pay double. He would pay and then he 516 00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:32,960 Speaker 1: would pick up the other guy's tab. We were going 517 00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:37,480 Speaker 1: to scam beep Macromy. We were going to make him 518 00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:41,440 Speaker 1: pay for everything that he had put us through. Honestly, 519 00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:45,960 Speaker 1: I don't understand. I'm gonna walking because honestly, what okay? 520 00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:55,160 Speaker 1: Because the other guy's a listener, right let me um. 521 00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,520 Speaker 1: I was a little worried about Anna. I hadn't seen 522 00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:02,840 Speaker 1: her like this since she wanted to go skydiving for 523 00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:08,160 Speaker 1: you guys, the listeners. Honestly, this whole investigation was starting 524 00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:12,360 Speaker 1: to scare me. From a legal perspective, I needed advice, 525 00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:17,640 Speaker 1: legal advice, So I called up my family lawyer friend Paul. 526 00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:22,080 Speaker 1: If you tuned in last season, then you know this 527 00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:36,479 Speaker 1: is what we call a Paull call. Hello, is this Paul? 528 00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:41,120 Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's Kyle. Paul was a busy guy. 529 00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,400 Speaker 1: That's why I sound so excited to have finally gotten 530 00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:47,600 Speaker 1: him on the phone. Hey, how are you? I am 531 00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:55,680 Speaker 1: so sorry. I haven't run. We jumped right in. Okay, 532 00:47:55,840 --> 00:48:03,200 Speaker 1: So what is the legality of damming someone? Could you 533 00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:14,120 Speaker 1: get in trouble for scamming someone? Spanning? Oh? I said, scamming? Scamming? Yeah? Yeah, 534 00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:17,279 Speaker 1: I mean if you fraud somebody, you're committing your crime 535 00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:25,360 Speaker 1: depending upon the gail, the size of the amount of money, 536 00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:29,440 Speaker 1: and you to fraud somebody out of um, you know, 537 00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:31,759 Speaker 1: if it's a pod can be you know, bring in 538 00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,320 Speaker 1: larsity and a felony and you can go to jail 539 00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:39,800 Speaker 1: for several years. Okay. While I had Paul on the phone, 540 00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:42,000 Speaker 1: I had to ask him his official take on the 541 00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:46,080 Speaker 1: Beet Beet festival. You know that how is a bad 542 00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:52,680 Speaker 1: deal in all that's not fraud. Oh, that's not front. 543 00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:56,120 Speaker 1: That's just you know, buyer beware. As long as you 544 00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:59,520 Speaker 1: know and everything is in good faith, that just drips 545 00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:06,560 Speaker 1: out to be a flop. Yer mm hmm. Good to know. 546 00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:10,839 Speaker 1: If I knew Anna was here on this call, there 547 00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:13,360 Speaker 1: was one question she would have had to have Paul answer. 548 00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:16,080 Speaker 1: Would you say that I was bouncy as a child? 549 00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:24,600 Speaker 1: What I was bouncy as a child? Yes, well, bouncy 550 00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:30,040 Speaker 1: like a ball? Yeah. I heard everything I needed to hear. 551 00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:34,879 Speaker 1: We said our goodbyes. Well, have a good weekend, Paul. 552 00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:38,800 Speaker 1: I hope to see you soond Okay, bye, thank you. 553 00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:46,320 Speaker 1: Paul was right. Scamming Beef macromy could put us in 554 00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:50,080 Speaker 1: grave legal danger. I needed to tell this to Anna 555 00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:55,520 Speaker 1: before she did something that she might regret. Plus, technically, 556 00:49:55,640 --> 00:50:00,360 Speaker 1: the festival was not a bad deal. It was just 557 00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:04,600 Speaker 1: a shitty festival. Maybe I would just tell Anna about 558 00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:13,839 Speaker 1: that later. M m, well what about the investigation? Where 559 00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:18,000 Speaker 1: did that leave us? Did that mean we were done? 560 00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:28,480 Speaker 1: That was it? We love you guys, the listeners so much, 561 00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,160 Speaker 1: and we didn't want to lead you down a dark 562 00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:38,160 Speaker 1: alleyway and then leave you there with no answers. But 563 00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:49,200 Speaker 1: here we are ship. I called Anna and let her 564 00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:58,600 Speaker 1: know she should meet me at the beach to talk. Hi. 565 00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:03,600 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, well thanks for meeting me. Of course, 566 00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:08,400 Speaker 1: I can't turn the tables on me, or is everything okay? Well, okay, 567 00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:13,719 Speaker 1: behind your back, I went to I called Paul, Paul 568 00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:17,440 Speaker 1: the lawyer, Yeah, my family lawyer friend. You gave him 569 00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:20,319 Speaker 1: a paull call. I gave him a pall call. Yeah, 570 00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:25,800 Speaker 1: wait without me? Yes, why did you do that? I 571 00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:27,920 Speaker 1: had to find out some stuff from him, and I 572 00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:29,960 Speaker 1: just felt like, you were so worked up. I just 573 00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:31,880 Speaker 1: felt like I needed to call him and I need 574 00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:35,279 Speaker 1: to tell you what he said. Yeah, it was really mad, 575 00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:39,160 Speaker 1: but I mean, we weren't coming here, and I was 576 00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:41,359 Speaker 1: worked up, and I just think we need to put 577 00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:44,560 Speaker 1: a stop to the investigation. What do you mean to 578 00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:47,520 Speaker 1: put a stop to the investiga. It's feeling like, based 579 00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:49,560 Speaker 1: on what Paul said, I feel like we could be 580 00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:55,040 Speaker 1: putting ourselves at risk to get our asses majorly sued. 581 00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:59,239 Speaker 1: And I don't want that. You think we can get sued, yes, 582 00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:03,080 Speaker 1: because you're talking about I mean, I can't say the word, 583 00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:06,640 Speaker 1: but you're talking about bad dealing someone that we think 584 00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:09,120 Speaker 1: bad dealed us. Yeah, of course I want a bad 585 00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:11,080 Speaker 1: deal them because they bad dealed us and I want 586 00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:14,800 Speaker 1: to make them pay. But we could we could be 587 00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:19,080 Speaker 1: put in jail. We we can't be put into No, 588 00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:21,840 Speaker 1: we can't be put in jail. We could get sued. 589 00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:26,720 Speaker 1: We could get put in jail. I have two hundred 590 00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:29,440 Speaker 1: dollars in my bank account. I can't deal with that. 591 00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:36,920 Speaker 1: I don't even have that. Wait, I'm sorry you gave 592 00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:40,480 Speaker 1: him a pall call. Did you ask the most important 593 00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:43,080 Speaker 1: question of all? Because you know I like to be 594 00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:49,719 Speaker 1: there when you make the poll call. Okay, yes, yes, 595 00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:52,879 Speaker 1: tell me what you asked him. I asked him. I said, 596 00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:56,920 Speaker 1: I said, my my podcast co host would like to 597 00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:59,680 Speaker 1: know if I was bouncy as a child. And he 598 00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:05,880 Speaker 1: said yes. He said good. No, it's not good. Okay, 599 00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:08,480 Speaker 1: so you gotta listen to me. For our own safety. 600 00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:11,360 Speaker 1: We have to put the investigation to arrest. And I 601 00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:13,320 Speaker 1: know I don't want to do this because we're so 602 00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:15,960 Speaker 1: we spent so much time on this, but I just 603 00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:21,440 Speaker 1: don't think it's safe. He really said you were bouncing 604 00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:27,480 Speaker 1: as a child. Yeah, are you lying? I'm not lying, 605 00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:29,799 Speaker 1: It just said he didn't seem as into it. This time, 606 00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:32,480 Speaker 1: which was really weird. He just actually acted like a 607 00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:35,520 Speaker 1: whole different person then the last time we talked to him. 608 00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:44,320 Speaker 1: But okay, oh, so we should put a full stop 609 00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:50,800 Speaker 1: to the investigation. Yeah, but what will we tell the listeners. Honestly, 610 00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,000 Speaker 1: I don't think we need I don't think we can 611 00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:56,759 Speaker 1: think about the listeners right now. We have to think 612 00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:58,880 Speaker 1: about ourselves. What do you say, What do you mean 613 00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:01,120 Speaker 1: we can't think about the list sitners. There's no show 614 00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:04,640 Speaker 1: if there's no listeners. Yeah, but there's no show if 615 00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:11,239 Speaker 1: we're in jail. So yeah, that's a really good point. 616 00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:22,040 Speaker 1: So yeah, okay, yeah, I thought that was a seal. Again, No, 617 00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:48,759 Speaker 1: it's wrong. M h m hm. To be continued later. Hey, 618 00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:52,200 Speaker 1: if you like The Truth Hounds, please subscribe to us 619 00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:56,799 Speaker 1: and leave us a five star review. 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