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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay, Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: All right, second hour Clan Buck kicks off right now.

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Speaker 2: We're still watching as this missing sub search is entering

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Speaker 2: what maybe it's final hours before we get some conclusion here. Uh,

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Speaker 2: we've got Clay in New York City and a very

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Speaker 2: special guest who has joined in the mix.

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Speaker 1: Here, Clay, do we have his mic set up? Though?

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Speaker 1: I think it's on me. He's used to talking to

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Speaker 1: a mike. Do We don't know.

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Speaker 3: We got to ask Mike Mamon, Mike, my moon, my mic.

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Speaker 3: My Mike is on the great Mike mamone.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 3: What an honor to be in the Clay and Buck studio,

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Speaker 3: which by the way, is adjacent to my studio when

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Speaker 3: I'm in New York City doing these big audience shows

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Speaker 3: which are fun.

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Speaker 1: I'm on tonight. We're on tonight. Yeah, fun, We love it.

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Speaker 3: We got to get Buck in the mix. We got

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Speaker 3: to have you on as well. How are you, my friend?

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Speaker 1: I'm good. You know I'm on TV. By the way.

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Speaker 5: Uh, well, we've got video. I think the back of

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Speaker 5: your head is going to be on the video right here.

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Speaker 5: You can wave to people there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, back of my head looks better, you know, anybody.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say, it's funny because I was like,

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Speaker 2: so do we introduce Sean handity to everybody or just

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Speaker 2: except that everybody listening knows his voice, so we know

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Speaker 2: that it's Shawn.

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Speaker 3: So I don't know about By the way, congrats to

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Speaker 3: both of you. You have been kicking ass in radio.

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Speaker 3: Very happy for both of you. And it's a tough business.

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Speaker 3: I've been believe it or not. My radio career started

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Speaker 3: before Clay was born. Buck in nineteen eighty seven was

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Speaker 3: the first time I got behind the Buck was barely here.

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Speaker 3: I mean, first of all, Sean Clay was born. Clay

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Speaker 3: was riding a horse to school. Clay's been around a

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Speaker 3: long time. I've been ridding the horse.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 3: I started at a university station in California. They rightly

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Speaker 3: a week show. Was awful, like every other show on

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Speaker 3: a college station. But the minute that light went on,

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Speaker 3: that just changed my life.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 3: Interestingly, I didn't know what I was doing when I

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Speaker 3: was growing up, but I just had the radio on

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Speaker 3: all the time. I was listening to the great pioneers

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Speaker 3: in Rhode Island five years, I listened to Gene Burns

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Speaker 3: and and Jerry Williams and David Brudnoy.

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Speaker 1: In New York, it was Barry Farber, Barry Gray.

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Speaker 3: Later on came a hey, let's be heard, Bob Grant,

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Speaker 3: get off my phone, new scumbag. You know, various cerbic

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Speaker 3: New York talk radio. And then I got hired in Huntsville, Alabama.

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Speaker 3: Had a thick New York accent. And you'll get a

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Speaker 3: kick out of this from a story. So you know,

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Speaker 3: I'm Shawn from New York. I didn't of college football

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Speaker 2: As you know, a religion in New York like it

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Speaker 2: is the rest of the country. Sean, I don't even

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Speaker 2: know what Clay was talking about when he showed up.

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Speaker 2: You're talking about the SEC. I was like, you'll be

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Speaker 2: investigate you for taxes.

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Speaker 3: Well I know now because both of my kids were

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Speaker 3: Division one athletes. And but but the funny thing is,

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Speaker 3: idea about role Tide and more Eagle and Sean, Hey, no, man,

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Speaker 3: welcome to Huntsville. Man, you talk funny I'm like, what

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Speaker 3: do you mean I talk funny? I'm from New York.

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Speaker 3: If you talk funny, what you I'm here, I'm drinking

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Speaker 1: I had a thick, thick New York accent at the time.

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Speaker 5: Didn't even know it. That's the weird thing. Yeah, because

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Speaker 5: you don't know wherever you're from. It's like what people

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Speaker 5: sound like, right right. And I learned that I'm a

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Speaker 5: Southerner at heart for sure. I cannot stand New York.

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Speaker 3: I hate it and I can't even the words don't

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Speaker 1: Guy says roll tight. I said, what's that?

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Speaker 3: And then I literally became a star because of being

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Speaker 3: goodbye to the talk show host from Hell.

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Speaker 1: I should have had a and I left it. I

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Speaker 1: went to Atlanta four years. What did they pay you?

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Speaker 1: And uh, do you remember your salary? And remember nineteen

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Speaker 1: thousand dollars a year buck. This is always what we talked.

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Speaker 1: I think you guys are on that station w VANN

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Speaker 2: This is what we always talk to people in media.

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Speaker 2: What was your first salary? My first media Sullard. It

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Speaker 2: was less than what I was making at the CIA.

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Speaker 2: I mean when you say real we are paid the government,

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Speaker 2: you know you're making like, well, wait a.

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Speaker 3: Minute, I gave my figure nineteen grand? What would what

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Speaker 1: What did you asked? The first job? Right? Yeah, the Blaze?

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Speaker 1: What did the Blaze pay? You might?

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Speaker 5: So for you buck, when I started writing online, I

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Speaker 5: a year. I do have a fun one for you.

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Speaker 2: I remember the first thing that I think I ever

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Speaker 2: It was National Review and I published article National Review

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Speaker 2: the business that people thinking is, especially when you're when

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Speaker 3: For me, I didn't care. I got behind that microphone.

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Speaker 3: Now as I'm driving cross country, I'm not sure I

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Speaker 3: And anyway, he was very, very pivotal in my career.

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Speaker 3: never had before. Left there to go to Fox in

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Speaker 3: ninety six. When I left the Atlanta Journal Constitution, I

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Speaker 3: got a complex over this year. In addition, nineteen ninety

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm beginning to think that people don't like me.

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Speaker 3: I'm Glad Clay and bug.

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Speaker 5: Do Sean Bucket and I talked a lot about your

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Speaker 5: interview with Gavin Newsom.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, why do you think he did it well?

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Speaker 3: I think he trusted me enough when I said I'd

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Speaker 3: give him space, I'd give him an opportunity to answer.

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Speaker 1: And I've known him long enough to have.

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Speaker 3: That relationship with him. I said, Look, I'm giving you

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Speaker 3: I don't. We can get on there and just speak

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Speaker 3: I said, you and I disagree passionately on issues, and

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Speaker 3: I think it would be good for the country to

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Speaker 3: the guy, very personable.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's said, you and Clay agree on this one.

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Speaker 1: I want to say you and I said, I disagree

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Speaker 3: He's a very likable guy, central casting politician. Remember when

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Speaker 3: he walked into the Oval and took that jacket and

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Speaker 1: I'm like, man's he's fuck makes fun of me? Buck

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Speaker 1: Why it's all right?

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Speaker 2: No, because because I just know that any day now

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna see Clay and Gavin drinking some Chardenay up

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Speaker 1: But you know, Sean, there's there's like a broad line.

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Speaker 1: Is good Why he owns a winery? I believe he does. Oh,

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Speaker 2: Look you want you know why with Gavin and stock Tips,

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Speaker 1: But you know, Sean, and I remember, and I.

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Speaker 2: Know your former co host Alan, you know, passed away

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Speaker 2: some years ago, Rest in peace. I remember the days

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Speaker 2: don't ever want a debate anymore. Like these people at MSNBC, CNN,

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Speaker 2: change in that, Like because of Gavin Newsom came on

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Speaker 2: your show. Do you think the people just are tired

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Speaker 3: Any time you put conservatism up against liberalism, it wins.

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Speaker 3: And I felt I wanted to be creative and come

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Speaker 3: I came in with a pile of graphs and I said,

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Speaker 3: all right, here are the number of people leaving your state,

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Speaker 3: and here are the number of people migrating to Florida

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Speaker 3: every single week, including Buck Sexton, right, exactly, very smart, Buck,

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Speaker 3: you have more sense than anybody. And or this is

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Speaker 3: the number almost population, this is the list of big

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Speaker 1: You know, this is the these are.

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Speaker 3: The crime statistics, and and this is the cost for

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Speaker 3: but but but but those companies still have employees here.

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Speaker 1: They're all moving their corporate headquarters out. But to say, Johnny, I.

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Speaker 2: You know, I talked to Clay about this, and my

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Speaker 2: theory on this is with Gavin Newsom, what you're seeing

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Speaker 2: is whenever collectivists or you know, socialists takeover anything, especially

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Speaker 3: You know which state is freer, which state has better policies,

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Speaker 2: I think at some point it's an inevitability there'll be

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Speaker 2: It's a fair match between knew something to say in

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Speaker 3: The liberals will think that Gavin one, and conservatives will

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Speaker 2: But Gavin's more, he's more likable. This is where it

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Speaker 1: He's more personable than Rock.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and now now Clay makes fun of me because

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Speaker 3: The passage of time means that together we're passing through time,

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Speaker 1: I mean, she comes up with these words styles. They

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Speaker 3: That to me would be the heavyweight pay per view

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Speaker 1: And Gavin even agreed to let me be the moderator.

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Speaker 2: It's good for you to make those guys are We're

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Speaker 3: Yelling mamone just gave me the finger, by the way,

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Speaker 3: He's been doing that for you know, twenty seven years

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Speaker 5: so like what a lot of people I think would

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Speaker 1: So we had a good time. Excellent, excellent. I I

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Speaker 1: went to Yankee games.

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Speaker 2: I went to a World Series Yankees game in two thousand,

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Speaker 2: two thousand, Oh wow, yeah, or maybe it was not, no, no,

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Speaker 2: it was ninety no, no, ninety eight.

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Speaker 1: I think ninety eight, that sounds right.

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Speaker 5: I took my son and another one of these this

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Speaker 5: kids was with us too. The only World Series I've

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Speaker 5: ever been to down in Houston, where we appreciate everybody

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Speaker 5: listening in the Houston area. Braves beat the Astros, sorry

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Speaker 5: Astro fans in that in that World Series a couple

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Speaker 5: of years ago.

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Speaker 2: So that was really fun. That's only World Series I've

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Speaker 2: ever been to. So back to what we're talking about here,

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Speaker 2: with the Hunter Biden situation. Look, we knew there was

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Speaker 2: gonna be a total propaganda campaign of what some call

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Speaker 2: anti truth, like the it's one thing to say, oh,

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Speaker 2: that's fair what they did to Hunter Biden, you know,

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Speaker 2: meaning the sweetheart deal, it's nothing to say not only

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Speaker 2: was it not a sweetheart deal, they went all in

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Speaker 2: against hunter Biden, like they were so rough on him.

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Speaker 2: Which there were people, Clay, I'm sure you saw saying that, right, yea,

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Speaker 2: even Dan Abrams, who's a legal analyst, I think, the

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Speaker 2: founder of Mediaite. He's saying that there shouldn't have even

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Speaker 2: been charges brought against hunter Biden. Look, I get it,

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Speaker 2: it's important. Democrats have a lot of ways to make

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Speaker 2: people feel good about lying. But that's absurd analysis. That's

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Speaker 2: that's completely absurd. And one of the things that that

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Speaker 2: we didn't even talk about was was Fara Foreign Agent

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Speaker 2: Registration Act. He is one hundred percent guilty of far Okay,

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Speaker 2: we all know that there's there is no such thing

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Speaker 2: as more guilty of FARA than being a bag man

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Speaker 2: for China and Ukraine running around see pedaling influence to

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Speaker 2: the tune of millions of dollars and never registering with anybody,

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Speaker 2: but obviously the president's son registering would have been a

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Speaker 2: bad look. Also, five years of investigation for two misdemeanor charges.

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Speaker 1: It's a scam, and it's a scam. We all know

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Speaker 1: it's a scam.

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Speaker 5: So this is from and we've reached out our staff

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Speaker 5: will reach out to Jason Smith, who is the House

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Speaker 5: Ways and Means Committee chairman. Uh and this is according

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Speaker 5: Let me give credit to the reporter who is putting

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Speaker 5: this out there, Wendell Huspo and I might have been

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Speaker 5: pronouncing that name wrong, told reporters Thursday. That's today the DOJ.

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Speaker 5: This is according to Representative Jason Smith. The DOJ twice

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Speaker 5: prevented US Attorney David Weiss from bringing charges against Hunter

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Speaker 5: Biden in two separate locations. Quote testimony shows a US

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Speaker 5: attorney of Delaware, David Weiss, tried to bring charges against

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Speaker 5: Hunter Biden in the district of coloone around March of

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Speaker 5: twenty twenty two, was denied, and then was also denied

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Speaker 5: when he sought to bring charges in the Central District

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Speaker 5: of California in the fall of twenty two, and had

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Speaker 5: that request denied in January of twenty three. Smith also

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Speaker 5: said the IRS recommended charges against hunter Biden also not

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Speaker 5: approved by Garland. And here's a direct quote. The testimony

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Speaker 5: we released today shows the IRS recommended charges against hunter

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Speaker 5: Biden that included attempt to evade or defeat tax of felony,

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Speaker 5: fraud or false statements of felony, and willful failure to

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Speaker 5: file returns, supply information or pay tax. These tax crimes

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Speaker 5: cover and estimated two point two million dollars in unreported

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Speaker 5: tax on global income streams to mister Biden and his

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Speaker 5: associates from Ukraine, Romania and China, totaling seventeen point three

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Speaker 5: million dollars from twenty fourteen to twenty nineteen. Let me

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Speaker 5: keep reading here, Buck. In addition, Smith told reporters the

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Speaker 5: probe into the president's son was had unusual problems, including

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Speaker 5: whistleblower claims of special treatment. So I don't think Buck,

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Speaker 5: that this story is going away. If anything, there may

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Speaker 5: be way more attention, and we need to get this

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Speaker 5: congressman on to discuss what was or was not the

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Speaker 5: role of Merrick Garland and the Department of Justice in

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Speaker 5: this Hunter Biden probe, which at to your point, took years.

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Speaker 1: When it should have been something that took a few months.

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Speaker 2: This is as dirty affix. I mean, let's just understand

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Speaker 2: this is very important. Failure to file is a misdemeanor.

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Speaker 2: And not only is it a misdemeanor which means nothing's

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Speaker 2: going to happen to you realistically, but this scale doesn't

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Speaker 2: matter either, right, if you made a billion dollars or

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Speaker 2: fifty thousand dollars, failure to file is failure to file.

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Speaker 2: Why is it that they couldn't go with the evasion charge. Well,

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Speaker 2: because evasion charges are intentional, willful acts to try to effectively,

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Speaker 2: you know, prevent the government from getting money that is

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Speaker 2: due under our federal tax code, and evasion charges play

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Speaker 2: start to get into not only felony, but the degree

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Speaker 2: of the evasion is what matters, you know, you see

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Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Yeah, so if you tax evad ten grand,

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Speaker 2: all right, you know you should pay a fine.

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Speaker 1: Don't do that.

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Speaker 2: You taxivate seventeen million dollars, or you evade taxes on

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Speaker 2: seventeen million dollars, you're going to prison. And guidelines. Ask

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Speaker 2: Wesley Snipes, ask Leona Helmsley, ask people that have gone

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Speaker 2: through this when it's millions of dollars of evasion prison

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Speaker 2: is inevitable. And what I'm why I'm saying this is

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Speaker 2: that's why they couldn't bring a tax evasion charge. They

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Speaker 2: had to keep it out of the out of the

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Speaker 2: realm of not only felony, but also the scale because

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Speaker 2: the scale of the fraud would you couldn't say, oh,

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Speaker 2: he evaded ten million dollars of taxes, but we're gonna

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Speaker 2: charge it as a misdemeanor. You couldn't do that, You

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Speaker 2: see what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, yes, certainly.

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Speaker 5: And also, by the way, this is not a accounting dispute.

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Speaker 5: A lot of times IRS involvement is, Hey, you in

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Speaker 5: the IRS are in a disagreement about how to classify this. Incomy,

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Speaker 5: he didn't file a return at all. And to your point,

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Speaker 5: it's not filing a return like that. That's a problem

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Speaker 5: if you make fifty thousand dollars a year, because you

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Speaker 5: still every American should be filing a tax return every year.

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Speaker 5: But over half of Americans don't own federal owe federal

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Speaker 5: income tax. That's a stat by the way, that almost

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Speaker 5: no one knows. Let me repeat it. Over half of

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Speaker 5: Americans pay zero dollars in federal income tax. So the

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Speaker 5: tax code is wildly progressive. And if you make millions

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Speaker 5: of dollars go figure, you owe a lot of money

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Speaker 5: in taxes. So it's not only that he didn't pay

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Speaker 5: to your point, b, as you're pointing out, it's that

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Speaker 5: even pay millions of dollars in taxes and also didn't

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Speaker 5: even file. So he's not even able to argue, Oh,

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Speaker 5: this is an accounting dispute. I was saying this was

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Speaker 5: capital gains. They were saying it was income and different

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Speaker 5: tax rates. This is as bad as you can get.

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Speaker 2: Text book felony, tax evasion, setting up LLC's to hide

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Speaker 2: millions of dollars of overseas income. You know this isn't

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Speaker 2: like Hunter forgot about the book royalties for book number

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Speaker 2: one fifteen years ago, and you know he owes the

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Speaker 2: government ten grand. By the way, that could happen to anyone. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I'm not pretending like there aren't tax mistakes that can happen.

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Speaker 2: Setting up LLC's to put divert millions of dollars and

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Speaker 2: dummy LLC. It's not for real companies. Yes, this is

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Speaker 2: tax a textbook tax evasion and money laundering and clay

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Speaker 2: money laundering statutes. Now you're talking about twenty years federal

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Speaker 2: prison on a high end. Money laundering, wire fraud and

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Speaker 2: money laundering are shocking, these stiff sentences when they actually

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Speaker 2: want to bring them. And to your point, this is

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Speaker 2: how they got Manafort, right. Yeah, it's money that is

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Speaker 2: coming in which is making you a default lobbyist. So

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Speaker 2: in addition to the not paying taxes, it is not

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Speaker 2: registering effectively as a foreign agent when you're taking money

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Speaker 2: that is essentially for lobbying related interests. There are two

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Speaker 2: things here. They had to make this go away so

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Speaker 2: that there wouldn't be continued investigation into the critical thing

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Speaker 2: here is the tie between Hunter and Pops who is

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Speaker 2: the president, right, And the other part of this is

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Speaker 2: it's not a good look for the sitting presidents only

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Speaker 2: some to be sitting in federal prison while he's running

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Speaker 2: for reelection based on selling influence to office like that

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Speaker 2: actually might cause problems for independence.

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Speaker 1: The misdemeanor stuff. They can make that go away. Hunter's

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Speaker 1: a mess. Hunter sitting in prison. I know it.

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Speaker 5: Oh Biden is speaking so well, yeah, no, no, this is

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Speaker 5: Biden holding a news conference with the Indian Prime minister.

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Speaker 5: But he doesn't do these very often, so we're gonna

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Speaker 5: run on this because to your point, Buck, this should

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Speaker 5: be if Biden takes any questions at all, and even

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Speaker 5: if he doesn't, there should be a ton of them

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Speaker 5: focused on this. This should be an aggressive, an aggressive

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Speaker 5: as Joe Biden is speaking live in the White House. Uh,

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Speaker 5: Welcome back in Clay Travis, Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all

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Speaker 5: of you hanging out with us. As we told you,

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Speaker 5: Joe Biden and the Indian Prime Minister are hosting a

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Speaker 5: are talking to you. Really, the question, Buck, is will

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Speaker 5: there be questions taken by Joe Biden because he almost

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Speaker 5: hasn't done a press conference basically in a year, it

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Speaker 5: feels like, and if there are questions that are taken,

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Speaker 5: and this is why we're rolling on it with you,

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Speaker 5: this would basically be the first time for Biden to

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Speaker 5: be confronted about Hunter pleading guilty. Now, as we just

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Speaker 5: said in talking with all of you, look, Hunter Biden

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Speaker 5: got unbelievably preferential treatment. But remember Joe Biden's perspective has

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Speaker 5: been four years now that his son has done nothing

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Speaker 5: at all illegal, and at a minimum, Hunter Biden is

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Speaker 5: now admitting that he has done something illegal. And given

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Speaker 5: all the verbal gaffes that Joe Biden has stumbled through

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Speaker 5: over the past couple of years of his presidency, if

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Speaker 5: he is really grilled on this, there is no telling

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Speaker 5: what might actually happen. Now, other news that is out

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Speaker 5: gone down was attempting to go down five days ago,

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Speaker 5: to the Titanic wreckage. Also, Buck, there are reports who

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Speaker 5: is the new guy that's entered Heard a former congress

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Speaker 5: person from Texas.

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Speaker 2: Will Hurd, who's former member of Congress from Texas, also

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Speaker 2: a former CIA guy. Right, Yeah, yeah, I didn't know him,

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Speaker 2: but I had to Google to see if Heard was running,

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Speaker 2: as I'm being serious, a Republican or a Democrat, because

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Speaker 2: I wasn't sure he's form I mean, he was a

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Speaker 2: Republican in Congress kind of. But now I think he's

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Speaker 2: running for Republican president. And we're seeing that there's at

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Speaker 2: least reporting out there that Rick Scott of Florida is

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Speaker 2: considering a late entry into its really that late, but

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Speaker 2: a somewhat late entry into the Republican primary here.

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Speaker 1: So it's gonna be a very crowded situation.

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Speaker 2: And here's the other thing, Clay, I think the more

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Speaker 2: crowded it gets, the easier it is for Trump to

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Speaker 2: just say, let them, let them slog it out. I

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Speaker 2: don't need everyone knows where I am, where I stand

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Speaker 2: on this. I don't even know if he shows up

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Speaker 2: to that first debate or some of the subsequent ones,

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you heard it. He's not gonna stand on stage

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Speaker 1: with fifteen people.

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Speaker 5: No doubt you heard us talking about that with Sean

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Speaker 5: Hannity and in fact Mike in Lake Placid, Florida. If

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Speaker 5: you missed it, Sean Hannity doing his show here in

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Speaker 5: New York as well, just swung by and hung out

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Speaker 5: with us for a few minutes.

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Speaker 1: Mike, what'd you think?

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Speaker 4: Hey, I'm and we'll listening to y'all every day. Listen

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Speaker 4: to Sean when you guys are done. It was really

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Speaker 4: Listen to the excitement with Sean on the radio with

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Speaker 4: y'all was cool. It was almost like a couple of

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Speaker 4: girls they're having Madonna over for a sleepover. I was

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Speaker 4: waiting for fuck to hauler pill bite.

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Speaker 1: It was fun. Thank you for the call. Uh, thank

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Speaker 1: you for the call by.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Like I said, Sean was just walking by, hung out

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Speaker 1: with us.

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Speaker 2: But your point here is right about that, because we

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Speaker 2: were discussing the Gavin Newsom angle on the Democrat side.

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Speaker 2: But Buck, the biggest question now, if all of these Republicans,

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Speaker 2: and you're right, some of these guys we know are

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Speaker 2: not real Republicans, like Asa Hutchinson is running and Hurd

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Speaker 2: is running, and they.

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Speaker 1: Have no chance.

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Speaker 2: But if we're getting up to twelve or thirteen people

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Speaker 2: announced in this race, even if they only gobble up

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Speaker 2: a point or two, it's phenomenal for Trump because I

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Speaker 2: think Trump's thirty five percent or thirty percent or twenty

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Speaker 2: five percent, whatever number you want to put on that

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Speaker 2: are dying the wool.

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Speaker 1: Trump people.

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Speaker 2: They're not going anywhere from And this just soaks up

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Speaker 2: everything else. Trump's support is utterly unshakable. Yes, we know

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Speaker 2: that from a poor of this audience. We know that

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Speaker 2: just from everything that's uh, that's being said in the polls,

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Speaker 2: that we're seeing in the data. So he's the only

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Speaker 2: one who really has that I.

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Speaker 1: Think unshakable support.

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Speaker 2: There's there are people that are very pro desantists, and

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Speaker 2: I know everyone has there like there I get have

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Speaker 2: you got. I've gotten emails in the last week about

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Speaker 2: the There's Veck, some VEX supporters in the audience.

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Speaker 1: There's some nikky.

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Speaker 2: Supporters, Tim Scott, everybody's got a probably fewer PET.

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Speaker 1: Supporters because mister Clay over here.

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Speaker 2: But anyway, uh, you know, I I think that the

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Speaker 2: more crowd of the field, the easier it becomes for Trump.

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Speaker 2: We start to feel like it's a replay of the

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Speaker 2: twenty sixteen field. In a lot of ways where you know,

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Speaker 2: Trump I think in the early days really was like

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Speaker 2: twenty five thirty twenty five thirty percent, but it never

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Speaker 2: went down and not really and if that's what's happening

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Speaker 2: again here, it feels like it's very hard, uh for

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Speaker 2: him to get just by the numbers, very hard for

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Speaker 2: him to be caught. So we'll see, this is going

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Speaker 2: to be the craziest. You know, people who say this

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Speaker 2: is the most important election of our lifetime like this,

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Speaker 2: that's the ultimate cliche from every presidential election. Folks, this

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Speaker 2: is going to be the craziest election cycle any of

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Speaker 2: us have ever witnessed.

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Speaker 1: I think that, right.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you got a guy who's under in multiple indictments,

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Speaker 2: who's the frontrunner, who's a former president, and you got

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Speaker 2: Biden looking shaky every day.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be crazy.

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Speaker 2: It's an election historically without precedent, And you're right, every

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Speaker 2: single election people say this is the most important election

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Speaker 2: in our lives, and most of the time it's not true.

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Speaker 2: I think it's going to be a wildly important election.

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Speaker 2: What I'm certain of, Buck is none of us have

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Speaker 2: ever lived through anything like what we are going to

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Speaker 2: be living through. From an election perspective between now and

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, and there's so many different directions that

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Speaker 2: can go, not the least of which buck just because

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Speaker 2: of the age of the individuals involved at the at

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Speaker 2: the front of the two parties. I mean, would it

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Speaker 2: shock anybody if a major health condition grows?

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Speaker 1: Wouldn't be m