1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: Today's Daily Highlight from Elvis Duran in the Morning show. 2 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 2: You know what, this is one of these topics we've 3 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 2: been talking about on the show for at least twenty 4 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 2: twenty five years, and it's friend hoarding for instance. You know, 5 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 2: it comes up in different forms. For instance, let's say 6 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 2: you introduce a good friend of yours to another good 7 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 2: friend of yours and they become friends, and then they 8 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 2: go out and do their own stuff without you, and 9 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:26,639 Speaker 2: you're like, you feel like, well, I should have just 10 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 2: hoarded them. I should have just kept them to myself myself. 11 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 2: By the way, I'm not one of those people. I 12 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 2: really actually thrive on introducing friends to friends and they 13 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 2: have their own friendship going. But there's another reason why 14 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 2: sometimes it's good to friend hoard. Let's say when I'm 15 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 2: with Gandhi, she and I are like really menaces. We 16 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 2: talk about really really off the wall blue things. It 17 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 2: can get nasty, but to another friend exactly. But I 18 00:00:57,960 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 2: have both the friends I hang out with, which is 19 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 2: always sort of on the straight and narrow. We used 20 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 2: to talk about virtuous, wonderful, positive things. You know. So 21 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 2: I don't know if I want to introduce Gandhi my 22 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 2: you know, evil sister to a friend of mine who's 23 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 2: like an angel. You know, because I can be different 24 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 2: people with each one. You know, a different person with 25 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 2: each one, different side of me. Yes, So therefore I 26 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 2: try to keep them separate. Makes sense? 27 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 3: Okay? 28 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 2: Yes, understanding hoarding friends, You actually sent me an article 29 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 2: about this. I did. So. 30 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 3: A lot of people hoard friends, and for these reasons 31 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 3: that you say. Some people are just kind of jealous 32 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 3: in general, they don't want the friends to become better 33 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 3: friends with each other than you are with them. But 34 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:44,759 Speaker 3: experts are saying that this is causing even more loneliness 35 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 3: because people are already having a tough time just connecting 36 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 3: in general with technology, with how busy we all are. 37 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 2: So if you have. 38 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 3: Friends of friends and then your friend is hoarding, you 39 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 3: also find someone that you like and then you don't 40 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 3: get to hang out with them, which makes you extra sad. 41 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 2: So don't be a friend hoarder, right, It's okay, open 42 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 2: the gates. So some people call it friend poaching. Well, 43 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 2: poaching is a different, a different scenario that means you 44 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:10,679 Speaker 2: know you're friends with them, I'm gonna take you away 45 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 2: from them, and they can can't be with them as 46 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 2: friends anymore. That's what great are we in And people 47 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 2: that people do that, well, you know, okay, then maybe 48 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 2: they should examine themselves a little bit in my opinion, 49 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 2: But I don't know. We there is a case for 50 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 2: the different side of you that shines through when you're 51 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 2: with one person versus another. Right, maybe you don't want 52 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 2: those paths to cross. I get that. It's like, for instance, maybe, uh, 53 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 2: let's say, daniel your husband Sheldon has a friend at 54 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 2: work or he works with who's just you made things 55 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 2: a bad influence, right, he doesn't want you to hang 56 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 2: out with that person, even though even though he knows 57 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 2: how to run his life around that person and do 58 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 2: the right thing, he may not think that you trust 59 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 2: him when he's with them or and then I'm going 60 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 2: to see the real deal and happening. I don't think so. Well, no, 61 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 2: I know, I know, but he's an adult. You trust, 62 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:08,079 Speaker 2: you trust, so it's gonna do You. 63 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 1: Would be that friend you know when you first met 64 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 1: throwing chairs, throwing chairs off of a chip together. 65 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 2: We never did that, Danielle. We never did that. 66 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 3: It was all alleged. 67 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: Okay, we weren't. 68 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 2: Throwing any chairs. That was a yeah, I was a 69 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 2: bad inf we were drinking. I don't know something happened. 70 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 2: If it had happened, it would have been because they're drinking. Yes, 71 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 2: that's what's that. Gandhi. 72 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 3: There are a couple of people in my life who 73 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 3: I don't want to hoard the friends, but I do know, Okay, 74 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 3: this person and this person together are going to be 75 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 3: a liability when we go out, so I do need 76 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 3: to be careful. I'm not trying to not let them 77 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 3: be friends. I just don't know if I want to 78 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 3: be there when they are together, because that's insane. 79 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 2: You know it's gonna come. Yeah, then you know it's 80 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 2: good to save some friends from other friends in that fashion. 81 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 2: For instance, with Nate, after a drink, he turns into 82 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 2: you know, doctor Jackyl, yes, or mister Hyde. He turns 83 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 2: into mister Hyde. Actually just yeah, fools around. Yeah, no, 84 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 2: I'm thinking about that. Elvis, like, that's a risk for 85 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 2: you if you take me and introduce me the normal 86 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 2: me to your friends, like, oh, this guy's pretty great 87 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 2: and I have one drink and they're like, what did 88 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 2: you do? Who did you bring? What is this monster 89 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 2: you've introduced into our midst? Then then that makes them 90 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 2: question me as a human. 91 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 3: Like Nate, Oh God, I have a friend. You guys 92 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 3: have all met her. She is beautiful. When she gets drunk, 93 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 3: she will make out with whomever is standing next to her, 94 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 3: and it turns into chaos. Like she gets us into 95 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 3: the most ridiculous situations all the time, and you can't 96 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 3: stop her. She's like, I'm a grown up, I'm gonna 97 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 3: do what I want. And then she's calling you from 98 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 3: the back of some cab where she's like, I think 99 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 3: I'm being kidnapped. 100 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 2: It's the worst. 101 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 3: Her and Nate together, I cannot even imagine. 102 00:04:55,839 --> 00:05:01,479 Speaker 2: God, it's like bringing on. So this article you sent 103 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 2: me about this friend hoarding, there's a book out called 104 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 2: Fighting for Our Friendships, The Science and Art of Conflict 105 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 2: and Connection in Women's Relationships, And this person who wrote 106 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 2: this article says that that book told her then, when 107 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,559 Speaker 2: she was a high school teacher years ago, she often 108 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 2: hear students airing anxieties so and so ber friend and 109 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 2: my friend, or I think she's trying to take her 110 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 2: away from me as my friend. And we assume that 111 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 2: was a back then issue, a teenage issue, a high 112 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 2: school issue. It's not as Danielle pointed out earlier. It 113 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 2: goes on right now. 114 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 1: My mother is in her seventies and it's still going on. 115 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: The stories I hear, I go, are you sure that happened? 116 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:49,479 Speaker 4: She's like, oh yeah, don't you think the hoarding happens though, 117 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 4: because of the potential to poach. 118 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 2: I never want to get poached, so I hoard and 119 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 2: then but then there's okay, back up, back up, back up. 120 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 2: But what do you mean, why do you have a 121 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 2: problem with friends becoming friends. 122 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 4: I don't have friends. I have a problem with friends 123 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 4: becoming friends. I'm just afraid of those two friends becoming 124 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 4: closer with each other than I am with the two friends. 125 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 4: And I'm like, you can't do stuff behind my back 126 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 4: and go places. 127 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: So they're not If they become friends through you, that's cool. 128 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: They have to invite you always. 129 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 2: Yes, I need to be included in the mix. You 130 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 2: can't come up, so they're not allowed to hang out 131 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 2: unless you're included. You must be a part of the equation, 132 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 2: at least asked just courtesy. Ask let's ask scary, so 133 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:40,919 Speaker 2: you would be you'd be really upset if you introduced 134 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 2: friend A who you've known since you were in college 135 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 2: to friend b who you met at work and you 136 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 2: just met and you found out they were going out 137 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:51,720 Speaker 2: to dinner and they didn't even tell you about it, 138 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 2: and you never you would have an issue with that? 139 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 2: Why is that? Why would you have an issue? A question? 140 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 2: Because why would why would they friends? That is not 141 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 2: a reason. Why does that bother? Well, okay, you're the 142 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 2: reason they're friends, But why is there a problem with it? 143 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 4: Because I feel like I'm the response. I'm responsible, and 144 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 4: and I don't want them talking about me behind my 145 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 4: back because now they both know me. So you know, 146 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 4: it's like how introduced Jetski Brian, a friend of mine 147 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 4: to some of my friends. So I don't want them 148 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 4: hanging out with Jetsky Brian behind my back. 149 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 2: So you don't want jets K Brian hanging out with 150 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 2: outhouse Alan, So so you're afraid they're gonna talk about 151 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 2: you behind your back? That could be what you say 152 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 2: that that's what you said? Well, what other what other 153 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 2: problems are there about new friends versus old with old 154 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 2: friends not including you in a dinner? They I don't 155 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 2: know if they plan trip, they could plan trips, they can, 156 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 2: they can get in business? What do they use money together, 157 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 2: and I'm like. 158 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: What if road kill Roger and Jetski Brian wind not 159 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 1: making money together and he didn't make anything else. 160 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 2: But I need to be good. Just ask. It's a 161 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 2: courtesy act. Why so you feel like you have somewhat 162 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 2: of a control and ownership over your friends and they 163 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 2: really I'm not it's not funny. It's not funny. I'm 164 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 2: being serious. You feel like you're claiming them as your 165 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 2: territory and people are not allowed into that territory without 166 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 2: you at the bridge, knowing who's coming in and who's leaving. Yeah, 167 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 2: you know what, it is a bit of a possession. 168 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 2: The thing. I don't know why. 169 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: I have to say. There was a moment when I 170 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: introduced two people and then I kept saying no to 171 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: hang out with the one girl, right, so she went 172 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: and asked the other girl to hang out. And she 173 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: told me after the fact that I only did it 174 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: because I wanted to see if you would finally hang 175 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:42,559 Speaker 1: out with me if I was also hanging out with her, 176 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 1: because you keep saying no to me, So in order 177 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 1: to get you to hang out, I had to like 178 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: poach your friend and get her to hang out with me. 179 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 2: So that you would feel bad and want to hang 180 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 2: out with all of us. 181 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 3: Oh my god. 182 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 2: So I was like, this is a lot goes into this. 183 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh oh yeah, Scary sort of acting like 184 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 3: an agent, like, Okay, so I introduced you, so I 185 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 3: get a cut of this deal business deal. I introduce you, 186 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:05,719 Speaker 3: I get some You're going on a trip. I introduced you, 187 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 3: I get to go. 188 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, I need a cut. He wants a cut 189 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 2: of your friendship. 190 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, a percentage all his friends are signed to him. 191 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is it. It's definitely. I think it's a 192 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 2: controlling thing. It's the need to be in control because 193 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 2: it is very selfish on Scary's part two, because I'm 194 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 2: thinking about this if like pizza parlor Paul and uh 195 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 2: Harry hemorrhoids yeah, and avatuire Alex, right, like what if 196 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:35,439 Speaker 2: they would be like best best friends, like they were 197 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 2: just looking for that person in their life. It's Kay's 198 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 2: keeping them apart. Okay, Okay, you can move this to 199 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:48,199 Speaker 2: another level. Let's say you are dating someone right, really 200 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 2: liked him a lot, and then it goes south. But 201 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 2: a friend that you met through them then becomes your 202 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 2: next your next relationship. Yeah, and then you get married, 203 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 2: then you have kids, and then well isn't that just 204 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 2: kind of a part of life? You know, we connect 205 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 2: with people, it's all. It's about mingling with people. It's 206 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 2: about uh uh, networking, I guess in a way, and 207 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 2: networking through business and through relationships. I guess it all 208 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 2: makes sense in a way. This happened. I introduced a 209 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:19,199 Speaker 2: guy to a girl. They got married. 210 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 4: Now they're divorced, but they lie together and they blame 211 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 4: it all on you everything, And Alvis, you know them too, 212 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 4: they're they're you know, one of them is a radio 213 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 4: friend of ours. 214 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 2: But they're living in other cities. But yeah, but honestly, 215 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 2: I'm cool with that. I'm okay. I'm a very sharing person. 216 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 2: But just don't go double cross. Just don't go double 217 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:42,439 Speaker 2: cross me, though. Don't. What you're saying is exactly your 218 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 2: definition of double crossing. You introduced them and now they 219 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 2: got married, and so you feel double cross no a relationship. 220 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:53,319 Speaker 2: I'm cool with that. I'm okay with that. Yeah, go 221 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 2: go for it. I want all my friends to get laid. 222 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 2: I want all my friends. 223 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 1: No, but I just don't want two guys to be 224 00:10:58,679 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 1: friends behind your back. 225 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 2: Do that okay, oh wow wow