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Speaker 3: Theegen Ray Job, everybody hook and the cool sleep be catched.

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Speaker 3: These gems are like each other and mental way.

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Speaker 4: And that is the forty nine Ers O Philly Special

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Speaker 4: Welcome inside with the Insiders alongside Inter Rapid Board and

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Speaker 4: Judy Battista. I am Tom Pellicero. It is a Monday

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Speaker 4: podcast edition of this show, albeit with a few extra

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Speaker 4: bells and whistles to match the quality of play that

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Speaker 4: we've got over those first five games of wild Card Weekend.

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Speaker 4: One still to go here as we record this on

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Speaker 4: Monday afternoon, but we now know most of what the

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Speaker 4: divisional playoffs are going to hold. Forty nine Ers going

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Speaker 4: to Seattle on a very short week on Saturday. The

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Speaker 4: head to New England. Will break down all of that.

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Speaker 4: Let's get right to the action. It was Eagles forty

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Speaker 4: nine Ers in one of many great games over the weekend.

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Speaker 4: a win over the forty nine Ers into twenty twenty

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Speaker 4: two NFC Championship Game, fourth quarter. Now the forty nine

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Speaker 4: Last gasp. Jalen Hurts firing over the middle for Dallas Goddard.

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Speaker 4: But it's Eric Kendricks, the third different middle linebackers signed

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Speaker 4: Take another look Kendricks diving to break up the throw

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Speaker 4: from Hurtz, Kyle Shanahan, Robert Soli going nuts on the sideline.

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Speaker 4: It sends the forty nine Ers on to the Divisional

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Speaker 4: playoff round twenty three to nineteen. The final score all

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Speaker 4: sorts of questions for the defending Super Bowl champs in Philadelphia, Judy,

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Speaker 4: and for the forty nine Ers, a team that when

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Speaker 4: this is going to be tough. Brock Perty gets hurt

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Speaker 4: It's just when is it going to run out?

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Speaker 5: And it hasn't.

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Speaker 4: The forty nine Ers, somehow, some way keep finding ways

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's not just the physical loss of those

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Speaker 3: And then to see George Kittle go down and still

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Speaker 5: Look, I don't know how long.

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Speaker 1: This can continue, Tom, but their season has been remarkable

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Speaker 3: Probably, Except this was a microcosm of what the entire

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Speaker 3: That happened. I covered multiple Eagles games. It happened in

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Speaker 5: I can remember it. And so this has been a

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Speaker 3: I mean, what happened? What comes next for the Eagles?

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Speaker 3: Like a long look at what happened this season. Aj

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Speaker 3: Philadelphia Eagles. They need to take a long, hard look

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Speaker 5: I would expect that they're going to be big changes coming,

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Speaker 4: And then so for the forty nine Ers, ian they

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, every game is good, you get

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Speaker 5: It is always the.

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Speaker 5: I have no earthly idea who's going to win.

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Speaker 1: My guess is that because Seattle is fully healthy and rested,

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Speaker 5: You know, going to be the one to advance.

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Speaker 1: But I am absolutely looking forward to this game, and

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Speaker 4: Amazingly, that was not the top game of the weekend.

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Speaker 4: I think any boy any objective measures Saturday Night Bears

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Speaker 5: That kick is no good.

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Speaker 4: twenty seven. One more chance for the Packers, seven seconds

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Speaker 4: Matthew Stafford potential MVP season looking to avenge that loss,

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Speaker 1: Eight nine Home hosting scrappy is okay, a team that

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Speaker 1: You know, you watch all these games this weekend, and like,

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Speaker 6: there's a lot of stuff that they're going to have

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Speaker 6: to learn from this game. Penalties was one of them.

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Speaker 6: I mean they got flag nine times for eighty three yards.

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Speaker 5: He said.

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Speaker 2: Obviously we can't do that, and I think we're going

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Speaker 2: to continue to win.

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Speaker 6: But I think the biggest thing he said, and it

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Speaker 6: hits on everything you guys were touching on, is at

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Speaker 6: the end of the day, they found a way to

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Speaker 6: be at their best in the most important moments. And

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Speaker 6: at this point of the season, you guys know everyone

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Speaker 6: is good. This is ultimately what the playoffs and championships

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Speaker 6: come down to. And you have a team and a

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Speaker 6: quarterback with ice in his veins in that regard, and

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Speaker 6: that's why when the game is on the line and

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Speaker 6: it's in his hands, you feel like there's a chance

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Speaker 6: might not be the prettiest, might not be the best execution,

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Speaker 6: might not be the cleanest, but at the end of

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Speaker 6: the day, in those crucial moments, like that's what it

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Speaker 6: always comes down to, and you have to.

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Speaker 2: Feel pretty good at at Stafford is your quarterback in

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Speaker 2: those moments.

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Speaker 4: I often feel like I have ice in my veins

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Speaker 4: when I go to Soldier Field, But that has more

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Speaker 4: to do the weather than anything, Sarah. That's where the

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Speaker 4: Rams will be headed this week, facing a Bears team

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Speaker 4: that time and again making the big plays in the

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Speaker 4: biggest moments. Based on what you saw from the Rams

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Speaker 4: in Carolina, what you've seen over the course of this seed,

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Speaker 4: what's the path for them to try to knock off

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Speaker 4: Chicago in Chicago?

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Speaker 2: I think what's a little bit surprising about the Rams

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Speaker 2: right now?

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Speaker 6: I was on their game in London and they came

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Speaker 6: out and just throttled the Jags, I mean a foot

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Speaker 6: down on the gas pedal the entire time. I think

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Speaker 6: a lot of people thought they were going to do

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Speaker 6: that to Carolina. This hasn't not been the smoothest stretch

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Speaker 6: to the end of the season for the Rams get

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Speaker 6: into it. They dropped a couple of games that people

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Speaker 6: thought they wouldn't drop. There was a time at this

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Speaker 6: year that we thought that this would probably be the

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Speaker 6: number one seed. They know that they made the path

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Speaker 6: harder on themselves. It is not going to be easy

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Speaker 6: conditions in Chicago. I think everyone knows that. I think

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Speaker 6: there's still the belief when you look at the talent

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Speaker 6: on that roster, and they will tell you this probably

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Speaker 6: was not the greatest game of theirs in Carolina either.

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Speaker 6: They got Quinton Lake back, he was effective. They're just

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Speaker 6: getting DeVante back. So I think that the feeling is

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Speaker 6: is this Rams team has not hit maybe where they

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Speaker 6: were at one point in the season, or have gotten

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Speaker 6: back to that in that rhythm and Judy talked about

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Speaker 6: there were a couple of throws that were off passes

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Speaker 6: that were dropped. That's uncharacteristic of them. I don't think

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Speaker 6: that we've seen their best yet. I think that they're

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Speaker 6: a team though that should they get down in Chicago,

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Speaker 6: and I know you can say the same thing about

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Speaker 6: the Bears because they just did it. The experience is

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Speaker 6: on their side, a super loaded roster is on their side.

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Speaker 6: I think that there's things and by the way, this

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Speaker 6: could have caught them in Carolina. I mean, this could

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Speaker 6: be a completely different narrative if it doesn't go their way.

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Speaker 6: At the very end of the game, they did not

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Speaker 6: put them away, right. But I think that when you

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Speaker 6: look at the names on this roster, the experience, they have,

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Speaker 6: just the sheer talent that they have. If they clean

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Speaker 6: up the things that I know Sean McVay is going

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Speaker 6: to make them clean up, I think that they can

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Speaker 6: be all right. I think that they look, this is

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Speaker 6: all laid out in front of them. It's more just

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Speaker 6: the rams I think have made certain things harder on themselves.

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Speaker 6: And they would probably say the same thing.

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Speaker 3: I mean, they need to clean up the penalties, right,

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Speaker 3: And then they're still having special teams issues, which yikes,

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Speaker 3: that blocked punt.

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Speaker 5: You're like, I mean you got to clean these right.

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Speaker 3: I mean, this is something that has been an issue

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Speaker 3: all during the regular season, and then it came up again,

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Speaker 3: so they got to clean up things like that, and

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Speaker 3: they fired their special teams coordinator and things haven't gotten

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Speaker 3: appreciably better yet, so they have to clean up the things.

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Speaker 3: But they are such a talented team with so much experience.

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Speaker 3: A super Bowl winning quarterback who might be the MVP

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Speaker 3: of the league this year, a Super Bowl winning head

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Speaker 3: coach who's a great play caller. I mean they are

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Speaker 3: They're the better team right now. Having said that, it

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Speaker 3: is hard to look at the Bears and just dismiss them,

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Speaker 3: I would say this, if they get a lead on

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Speaker 3: the Bears, they better put a lot of distance between them,

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Speaker 3: because you know that the Bears are coming, and you

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Speaker 3: know that the Bears are confident they can catch up.

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Speaker 5: I do like the experience factor, though certainly favors the

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Speaker 5: Rams here.

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Speaker 4: These are going to be some really fun, really physical

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Speaker 4: games on the NFC side coming up this coming weekend

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Speaker 4: in the divisional playoff round. Sarah, great stuff. Appreciate you

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Speaker 4: being here. As always, if you're listening on the podcast,

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Speaker 4: it's a two parter like we do every Monday, So

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Speaker 4: go ahead clip over to part two right now. Stay

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Speaker 4: with us if you're watching on YouTube, on fast streaming platforms,

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Speaker 4: wherever you're finding us, just you stick around. A lot

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Speaker 4: more insiders to come. Cameron Wolf is going to join

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Speaker 4: us after his travels to Foxborough. A whole lot more

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Speaker 4: breaking down throughout the Wildcard playffs for Sarah, Judy and

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Speaker 4: Ian Tom will see you over there,