WEBVTT - SYSK Selects: The Star Wars Holiday Special of 1978

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<v Speaker 1>Happy belated life day everyone. It's me Josh uh, and

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<v Speaker 1>I chose for this week's s Y s K selects

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<v Speaker 1>the Star Wars Holiday Special episode. It's true this just

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<v Speaker 1>came out two years back, but in my opinion, listening

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<v Speaker 1>to this episode should probably become a worldwide annual holiday tradition.

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<v Speaker 1>So we missed last year, we can just go ahead

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<v Speaker 1>and consider this year one of that tradition. I hope

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<v Speaker 1>you enjoy it, and Merry Christmas and happy holidays however

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<v Speaker 1>you celebrate them. Welcome to Stuff you should know from

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<v Speaker 1>how Stuff Works dot Com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Josh Clark with Charles W. Chuckers Bryant and Jerry

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<v Speaker 1>Jerome Roland. Uh. Who's the Wookie mother? Yeah? Mala? That

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<v Speaker 1>was the Wookie wife. Oh and mother? Yeah sure, Chewbacca's

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<v Speaker 1>momb is not with them any longer. She left. She

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<v Speaker 1>was not about to appear in that. She went out

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<v Speaker 1>the window. I'm excited about this. I have to say

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<v Speaker 1>we should say Happy Star Wars Day. Yeah. Today is

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<v Speaker 1>um December. Um, I have my opening night tickets? Do

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<v Speaker 1>you really sure? Wow? You know I into it? Oh? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well I will definitely go see it in the theater,

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<v Speaker 1>But um, why won't be the opening night? Sure, I've

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<v Speaker 1>gotten really adept at like ignoring spoilers, people talking about

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<v Speaker 1>stuff all like, so I can I could conceivably see

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<v Speaker 1>this movie a month after it comes out and still

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<v Speaker 1>going fresh. I'm an ostrich. Yeah you black yourself out,

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah you go dark. I make myself go to sleep face,

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<v Speaker 1>you go to the dark side. Been there a while now?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh Well, Happy Star Wars Day though, I'm sure that

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<v Speaker 1>I think this pairs nicely with Christmas Star Wars Day.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all come together. Yes, Um, we already missed Life

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<v Speaker 1>Day though, so happy belated Life Day. Are they celebrating

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<v Speaker 1>it this year? Novemb Yeah, but it's every three years.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm, our cane man job. Okay, so it's every

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<v Speaker 1>three years, started in nineteen seventy eight. Let's do the math,

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<v Speaker 1>shall we? Mm hmmm, quick math break. I believe that

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand fourteen was the last Life Day, man, we

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<v Speaker 1>just missed, and then again in seventeen. Okay, soeen we'll

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<v Speaker 1>celebrate Life Day. Will put on our red robes, are ultralong,

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<v Speaker 1>straight ironed wigs, and we'll celebrate Life Day the way

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<v Speaker 1>it was meant to. Yes, And if you have no

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<v Speaker 1>idea what we're talking about. We are talking about Life Day,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a celebration, uh that Wookies in the Star

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<v Speaker 1>Wars Union first have every three years. Yeah, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>their Christmas or the Kanza, their tet. Supposedly, it's sort

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<v Speaker 1>of like Earth. They too. They celebrate the diversity of

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<v Speaker 1>their ecosystem and also remembrance of the dead, and they

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<v Speaker 1>also give the gifts there like the Fins. Basically, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a it's a very interesting part of the Star

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<v Speaker 1>Wars canon. It is, and it's almost entirely made up,

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<v Speaker 1>dashed off you could possibly say, by um, George Lucas

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<v Speaker 1>in the seventies. Um. And it's the basis of what

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<v Speaker 1>is become derided as like one of the worst things

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<v Speaker 1>that ever happened to the Star Wars galaxy. Well, not

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<v Speaker 1>only that, one of the worst things ever aired on television. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>with this galaxy. Yeah, at first that sounds like hyperbole, like,

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<v Speaker 1>come on, it's because it was Star Wars, we had

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<v Speaker 1>high expectations, but it's really that bad. Yeah. The people

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<v Speaker 1>who say that haven't seen even a second of it. Yeah. Yeah, However,

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<v Speaker 1>I watched it uh, when I was a kid. Then

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<v Speaker 1>it again this week, and you watched it twice this week. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I watched it last night and this morning. There's something

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<v Speaker 1>about it. It's mesmerizing, it really is. It's one of

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<v Speaker 1>those things that you start watching it and you want

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<v Speaker 1>to turn it off, but you want to see just

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<v Speaker 1>how absurd it can get. Almost Yeah, and it starts absurd,

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<v Speaker 1>it stays absurd. In the middle, it's increasingly more absurd,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a little less absurd, finishes super absurd. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just a train wreck in every single sense of the word.

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<v Speaker 1>Talk to bottom. It's extraordinarily difficult to overstate how bad

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<v Speaker 1>this is, and some people have, you know, in researching this,

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<v Speaker 1>you read about it, you read descriptions of these things,

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<v Speaker 1>and it just can't possibly be gotten across until you

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<v Speaker 1>see it. So luckily, as we will see, you can

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<v Speaker 1>go onto YouTube and watch it, and you may even

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy this episode more if you pause, go spend two

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<v Speaker 1>hours watching this thing, and then come back and laugh

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<v Speaker 1>along with us. Yeah, there's a great Over the years,

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<v Speaker 1>there have been many segments of it on YouTube from

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<v Speaker 1>badly VHS tapes, but there's one really pretty good version

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<v Speaker 1>of it in full UM brought to you by w

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<v Speaker 1>h I O Dayton, Ohio, Channel seven. Because that flashes

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<v Speaker 1>up on the screen periodically. Man, it is high quality,

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<v Speaker 1>it looks good, and it has to basically be the

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<v Speaker 1>copy that the actual UM affiliate broadcast. It's like that,

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<v Speaker 1>that quality compared to the other stuff floating around on YouTube,

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<v Speaker 1>clearly recorded on a pc R, which we're really expensive,

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<v Speaker 1>very expensive. I did some calculating on west Egg okay UM,

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<v Speaker 1>so the average VCR went for about a thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>There were brand new it's amazing thousand dollars in money,

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<v Speaker 1>so they were about thirty eight hundred dollars in two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand fourteen money. Luckily, there were some rich people out

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<v Speaker 1>there recording this stuff, and the wealthy have saved us

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<v Speaker 1>all again yet again, as they always do. Uh. We

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<v Speaker 1>need to shout out some art goals that we used

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<v Speaker 1>for this. There's great a great article in Vanity Fair

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<v Speaker 1>called the Han Solo Comedy Our exclamation Point by Frank D. Jacomo.

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<v Speaker 1>And then there's the Star Wars Holiday special was the

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<v Speaker 1>worst thing on television ever by So when we kind

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<v Speaker 1>of know Alex Pasternack uh from Motherboard, Yeah, which is uh,

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<v Speaker 1>not wired. It's uh vice. We wrote a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>for Motherboard back then and we had a call with that,

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<v Speaker 1>like we're like old motherboard vets basically, and when they're

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<v Speaker 1>one more, there was another one and I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>who wrote this one chuck. Uh, yeah, it's the titles

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<v Speaker 1>the Star Wars Holiday Special. George Lucas wants to smash

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<v Speaker 1>every copy of with a sledgehammer, which was a famous quote,

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<v Speaker 1>uh supposedly at a convention by Lucas, Yes, which is

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<v Speaker 1>not correct. He didn't ever say that. No, okay, that

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<v Speaker 1>that sounded like something that people made up. Yes, but

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<v Speaker 1>if you go on the internet, you will quickly believe

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<v Speaker 1>that he did. Apparently didn't, so that's I'm sure he

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<v Speaker 1>felt that way though, clearly, because he did appear on

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<v Speaker 1>Robot Chicken and I think two thousand five on the

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<v Speaker 1>Therapist Couch talking about how much he hated the special. Alright,

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<v Speaker 1>so let's set the background, shall we Shall we go

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<v Speaker 1>back to summer getting the old way back machine. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>let's do it. All right, here we are, there's Waterson. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just a little six year old excited about Star Wars.

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<v Speaker 1>I am. I've just turned one. Yes, you don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what's up yet. I please forgive me if I urinate myself,

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<v Speaker 1>no problem, okay. Uh So what has happened is Star

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<v Speaker 1>Wars has become a huge, huge hit, seemingly out of nowhere,

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<v Speaker 1>establishing George Lucas is one of the brilliant young minds

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<v Speaker 1>and filmmaking, even though when this first movie it was

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<v Speaker 1>his first huge, huge breakout hit. Oh yeah, for sure,

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<v Speaker 1>talk don't even talk about a breakout hit, Like no

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<v Speaker 1>one had ever seen anything like it before two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>one had come out in the late sixty but it wasn't.

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<v Speaker 1>It's still it still isn't accessible to all audiences. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of cerebral film. Yeah, it's not an adventure movie.

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<v Speaker 1>This was This is like basically swashbuckling on the screen.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, in a galaxy far far away, Star

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<v Speaker 1>Wars just changed everything and it came on just like

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<v Speaker 1>a hammer. Um, there's a new hope by the way, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and then then we're gonna get stuff wrong, nerds, So yes,

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<v Speaker 1>just go ahead and get your little fingers ready to

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<v Speaker 1>email us. Like if it wasn't driven home that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not a nerd by the fact that I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>opening night tickets or any tickets yet, give me a break,

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<v Speaker 1>and by proxy chuck to okay, thank you. So um,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's hard to stay how great Star Wars was

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<v Speaker 1>in everyone's mind, right. Bill Murray came out with that

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<v Speaker 1>lounge singer Star Wars thing. It was everywhere and if

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<v Speaker 1>you if you just listen to the lyrics of it,

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<v Speaker 1>it's really it's just Bill Murray singing about how much

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<v Speaker 1>Star Wars is awesome. Right. So, by the following year, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>George Lucas was he wanted to figure out a way

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<v Speaker 1>to keep audiences just engaged with the whole Star Wars

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<v Speaker 1>franchise that he was just starting to build. But he

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<v Speaker 1>knew the Empire Strikes Back was a couple more years out, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>so um he I think he was approached by some

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<v Speaker 1>TV executives who said, have you considered doing some sort

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<v Speaker 1>of TV special? They're all the rage right now. We

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<v Speaker 1>have a we have a graphic that's really awesome that

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<v Speaker 1>we set aside just for TV specials here at CBS.

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<v Speaker 1>Why don't you let us let's get together and do

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<v Speaker 1>a Star Wars special. That's right. Producers Gary Smith and

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<v Speaker 1>Dwight him on. Uh, we're working over at CBS, and

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<v Speaker 1>they said, this is a great way to keep the

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<v Speaker 1>spirit alive while you're making your other movie. Maybe move

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<v Speaker 1>some more toys. Yeah, which George Lucas got. So it

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<v Speaker 1>was right before Thanksgiving, and he said, there'll be a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people watching TV um pre holiday season or

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<v Speaker 1>I guess in the holiday season. Well, the weekend before Thanksgiving,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like everybody's shopping, sitting around family like waiting to

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<v Speaker 1>actually do stuff. That's right, perfect time to broadcast something

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<v Speaker 1>on TV. So Lucas says, all right, let's do this.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have a ton of time, but how about this.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll get I'll get a story together and then you

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<v Speaker 1>can go hire a whiz bang team of of veteran

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<v Speaker 1>writers and producers and directors whatever genre you think is appropriate.

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<v Speaker 1>And those are the words that will haunt you, George

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<v Speaker 1>Lucas to his grave. Yeah. So Lucas said, here's my idea.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to be based um on Wookiees, and I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to take place on their home planet of Kazook

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<v Speaker 1>or Wookie planet. See is that how you saying Kazuk

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<v Speaker 1>That's how it's pronounced. In the episode, the Holiday special.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's also pronounced different ways. Other times I would

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<v Speaker 1>have pronounced that cashy e e got spell it k

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<v Speaker 1>a s h y y y k, which I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess that sounds like Chewbuck is plan sure also

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<v Speaker 1>called G five Wookie planet see or Eaton is a

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<v Speaker 1>mid rim planet. Right. So the whole reason apparently that

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<v Speaker 1>George Lucas was interested in featuring the Wookies was it

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<v Speaker 1>is what we in show business call low hanging fruit.

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<v Speaker 1>The reason why it was low hanging fruit was because

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<v Speaker 1>they had just established the different scenes that would make

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<v Speaker 1>the cut for Empire Strikes Back and uh, what how

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<v Speaker 1>did you pronounce it again? Kazook Kazook had not made

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<v Speaker 1>the cut. Uh. Even prior to this, apparently for a

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<v Speaker 1>new hope, George Lucas had whipped up a forty page

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<v Speaker 1>what's known as the Wookie Bible. It's like a forty

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<v Speaker 1>page supplement that's all about Kazook and Wookies and Chewbacca

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<v Speaker 1>and his family and everything about wookie um. Right, so

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<v Speaker 1>he's like, I've got this thing already, you know established

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<v Speaker 1>I love Wookies. Um, they didn't make the cut. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a little sad about that. They're not gonna kazuok is

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna show up in an Empire strikes back. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>let's build the entire special around wookies. It's basically the

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<v Speaker 1>one demand me George Lucas has. Yeah, that's it. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>be totally hands off from this point on which he

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<v Speaker 1>kind of was. He totally wasn't It was actually this

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<v Speaker 1>experience that apparently taught him to be the very hands

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<v Speaker 1>on a person that he is famous for being. It

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<v Speaker 1>came out of this Christmas special. Absolutely he was burned,

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<v Speaker 1>and um he had an iron grip after that on everything.

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<v Speaker 1>So here's some some of the folks behind it. Bruce Valanche,

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<v Speaker 1>famous TV writer. You've probably seen him on Hollywood Squares.

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<v Speaker 1>Wasn't he suspected of being Thomas pinch On for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, or was Thomas pinch On on Hollywood Squares?

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<v Speaker 1>I have no idea. I may be confabulating some stuff confounding. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's some kind of some sort going on. It sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like it. So Valanche was hired as a writer. A

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<v Speaker 1>guy named Lenny Rips was hired as a writer who

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<v Speaker 1>has some great quotes in that Vanity Fair article. He does.

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<v Speaker 1>His first quote was, we were really excited because this

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<v Speaker 1>is Star Wars. How could it lose famous? Last words?

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<v Speaker 1>Who else was hired? There was a husband and wife team,

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<v Speaker 1>the welch Is, who are the parents of folk singer

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<v Speaker 1>Gillian Welch. I'm a big fan of and I had

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<v Speaker 1>no idea that her parents. They were producers slash songwriters

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<v Speaker 1>of the day. They were big on the variety show scene,

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<v Speaker 1>which would turn out to be a really key cog

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<v Speaker 1>in this whole experience. So I feel like, right about here,

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry should insert a needle coming off of a record

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<v Speaker 1>sound effect. Okay, thanks Jerry, So Chuck, you just said

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<v Speaker 1>singer songwriters. Yeah, what would that have to do with

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<v Speaker 1>Star Wars. Yeah? Well, actually, in this Star Wars Holiday special,

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<v Speaker 1>for those of you hadn't seen it, there are musical numbers.

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<v Speaker 1>They decided from the outset that there should be musical numbers.

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<v Speaker 1>And the reason that they decided that there should be

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<v Speaker 1>musical numbers is because the people who sold George Lucas

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<v Speaker 1>and at the time it was started, the Star Wars

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<v Speaker 1>Corporation was what it was called um On the idea

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<v Speaker 1>of doing this TV special was that everyone would love

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<v Speaker 1>a variety show. Yeah, it was the seventies. Great idea,

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<v Speaker 1>let's do a variety show. The problem was this, Apparently

0:14:16.280 --> 0:14:19.520
<v Speaker 1>George Lucas didn't watch enough TV and he also overly

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<v Speaker 1>trusted people who talked to him because by yes, variety

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<v Speaker 1>shows had dominated television for over ten years, but it

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<v Speaker 1>had come to an end. It was getting stale. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking to Carol Burnett show, one of my favorite

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<v Speaker 1>had just been canceled after eleven seasons. Sonny and Chair

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<v Speaker 1>had just had its last season. Um, I mean what

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<v Speaker 1>else like he Hall was he? I was still going on,

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<v Speaker 1>probably still on solid golden yet to come on and

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<v Speaker 1>take up the mantel that that would never write a show. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a little bit, and there was talking in

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<v Speaker 1>between the songs. Remember the Mandrell's Sister show. I never

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<v Speaker 1>watched that one. Well, it's with that country chic thing

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<v Speaker 1>that happened. Yeah, it was a big deal in the

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of happening again. I think, Oh, because of

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<v Speaker 1>that dude, the guy who won all the c m

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<v Speaker 1>A Awards. I don't know, he's like he's he came along.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like actually country. His dad's like a coal miner

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<v Speaker 1>for real. From Kentucky. I think, I know you mean

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<v Speaker 1>Chris something. Yeah, he's come along and been like, what

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<v Speaker 1>are you guys doing? Well, there's a revival in like

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<v Speaker 1>good country music. Again, that's like in the tradition of

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<v Speaker 1>Merle Haggard and and I guess that's probably where the

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<v Speaker 1>country she came from because there was actually good country

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<v Speaker 1>going on. Yeah, Johnny Cash out a variety show, did

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<v Speaker 1>he really? Yeah? I knew they did, like a Sunday

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<v Speaker 1>singing thing like out in Virginia. Yeah, he had his

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<v Speaker 1>own variety show. Is actually pretty good. There's some like

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<v Speaker 1>really great performances. Do you know how many nerds are like,

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<v Speaker 1>get back to Star Wars? I know, I'm so sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So the Variety Show is is dying sort of,

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<v Speaker 1>and so they figure, what a great time to take

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest movie property on the planet and wedge it

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<v Speaker 1>into the variety show milieu. I don't know if wedge

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<v Speaker 1>is the right word. I think maybe uh, nestle it

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<v Speaker 1>in there and then start hitting it with the blunt

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<v Speaker 1>edge of an axe until it mashes into that crevice.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Because this is the time when Fantasy Island

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<v Speaker 1>had just started. Um Mork and Mindy was about to

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<v Speaker 1>change things. Charlie's Angels was getting huge. It basically television

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<v Speaker 1>as we knew it from two whenever the real world

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<v Speaker 1>came along. Just escape as television is what they called

0:16:36.320 --> 0:16:38.920
<v Speaker 1>it was was starting and it was the hip new thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So basically, if they had turned Han Solo and Princess

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<v Speaker 1>Leiah and Luke Skywalker into maybe you know, sexy detectives,

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<v Speaker 1>it might have gone over even better. But they went

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<v Speaker 1>the other way. They decided to latch onto this extraordinarily

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<v Speaker 1>stale um genre of television and they hired the best

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<v Speaker 1>in the business, like there was there was. There was

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<v Speaker 1>a from I think Lenny RiPPs who was saying, like

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<v Speaker 1>we had literally a dream team, a variety show dream team,

0:17:07.359 --> 0:17:10.480
<v Speaker 1>and everybody was good, but there were probably no bad

0:17:10.480 --> 0:17:13.879
<v Speaker 1>welders on the Titanic eare That's a great quote. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>The guy they hired to direct it initially was a

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<v Speaker 1>dude named David A. Coomba, and he had made his

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<v Speaker 1>name for Welcome to the Fillmore East. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>concert documentary with Van Morrison Van Morrison and the Birds

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen seventy one, and he actually was at usc

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<v Speaker 1>Film School at the same time as Lucas, even though

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't know each other, and um, he only ended

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<v Speaker 1>up directing about three segments of the thing before he quit.

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<v Speaker 1>Yet before he walked off, some say he was actually

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<v Speaker 1>let go, but we'll get to him in a minute

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<v Speaker 1>and who replaced him. As as we get along down

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<v Speaker 1>this uh gross road, well let's let's take a little

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<v Speaker 1>break because I'm I'm overly excited. Okay, alright, so we've

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<v Speaker 1>established most of the main players. We'll we'll get to

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<v Speaker 1>a few more. We should point out that, um, Mark

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<v Speaker 1>hamill And and Harrison Ford and Carrie Fischer, Peter Mayhew,

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<v Speaker 1>they had no grounds to refuse to be on this basically, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much. They were not huge, huge stars, yet they

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<v Speaker 1>could throw their weight around and say this is terrible

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm not doing it. They were. They were big

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<v Speaker 1>overnight because of Star Wars, for sure, but they weren't

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<v Speaker 1>to the adoring public back at the studio. They could

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<v Speaker 1>still be bossed around. And this is the result of it.

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<v Speaker 1>And you can tell also, um, just from watching the

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<v Speaker 1>actual special, Like Harrison Ford is not happy to be

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<v Speaker 1>there at any point. Um, Princess Leiah is clearly on drugs.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh was she on drugs at this point she if

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<v Speaker 1>you watch it, she's she's on drugs. Especially the ending scene.

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Hambell, it looks like he's happy to be there.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually he was fine, but apparently he said no, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not doing a musical number. And if you watch

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<v Speaker 1>his part, wedging a musical number in there would have

0:19:19.280 --> 0:19:24.280
<v Speaker 1>been even more painful. Um. But they everybody who was

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<v Speaker 1>part of the actual Star Wars franchise that wasn't wearing

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<v Speaker 1>like a full body costume was like, I really wish

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't here, And you can tell, oh yeah. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>in the opening uh credit sequence, they're showing the picture

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<v Speaker 1>that you know, the faces of the people, and you

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<v Speaker 1>see Harrison Ford as if he's flying the Millennium Falcon,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can you can just hear the guy I'll

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<v Speaker 1>screen going now look at the camera and just give

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<v Speaker 1>a nod. Just look at the camera and give a nod.

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<v Speaker 1>And he finally you can tell he's piste off and

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<v Speaker 1>he looks up at the camera and just sort of

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<v Speaker 1>smirks yeah and points at the camera like okay, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>looking at the camera, and then goes back to what

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<v Speaker 1>he's doing. Yeah, it's pretty awesome. I felt bad for him.

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<v Speaker 1>So early on Valanche and others did you did you

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<v Speaker 1>feel bad for him? Though? Really? I mean, like, come on,

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<v Speaker 1>it's Harrison Ford, it's Hans Solo. He has to go

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<v Speaker 1>do this for like five days. Yeah, I felt terrible

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<v Speaker 1>for him. I think it's hilarious that they had to

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<v Speaker 1>do this, especially now. Well, early on, Valanche and others

0:20:20.440 --> 0:20:23.000
<v Speaker 1>knew that they may be in trouble because they decided

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<v Speaker 1>not to subtitle any of the Wookie dialogue, and they

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<v Speaker 1>literally started after a brief opening scene setting it up here.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the basic plot is Han Solo is trying to

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<v Speaker 1>get Chewbacca back to Kazook in time for Life Day

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<v Speaker 1>so we can celebrate with his family. That's the basis

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<v Speaker 1>of the entire two the basis the entire two hours.

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<v Speaker 1>They encounter a space battle and they're delayed, and the

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<v Speaker 1>next two hours are kind of what's going on while

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<v Speaker 1>the delay is happening back on Kazoo, back on Kazook.

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<v Speaker 1>Because you hear, like, okay, well, Han Solo and Chewbacca

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<v Speaker 1>evading the Imperial Guard and all that stuff for two hours.

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<v Speaker 1>I would watch that. I would too. That's not what

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<v Speaker 1>they show killing time at the Wookie household. That is

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<v Speaker 1>what they show. That's what they do. It's people hanging

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<v Speaker 1>out waiting for Chewbacca, worrying about him, and then killing

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<v Speaker 1>time while they wait for him to come back. Literally,

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<v Speaker 1>so um and so hold on. So you say there's

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<v Speaker 1>a setup, right, Yeah, that's the initial setup and then chuck.

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<v Speaker 1>That's followed by this. Yeah, it's followed by literally ten minutes,

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<v Speaker 1>ten solid minutes of incomprehensible Wookie speak. So let's let's

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<v Speaker 1>join it for a second, shall we. Let's all enjoy it.

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<v Speaker 1>And again, you said ten minutes, and you're not exaggerating,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not being hyperbolic. You can time it. That's it's

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<v Speaker 1>ten minutes of wook He's talking to each other with

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<v Speaker 1>no subtitles. Fortunately, I couldn't follow it at first, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't even know who it was. I thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was might have been Chewbacca's mom and dad. Oh yeah,

0:22:44.960 --> 0:22:47.840
<v Speaker 1>that's a little brother. And I don't find out until

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<v Speaker 1>later when Mark Cambell shows up via skype call and says,

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<v Speaker 1>he really explains everything that had just happened, Like, you're

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<v Speaker 1>Chewbacca's father, Itchy, you'r Chewbacca's son, uh Lumpy Lumpy, and

0:23:02.680 --> 0:23:06.600
<v Speaker 1>you are Chewbacca's wife. Oh mama, thank you. So before

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<v Speaker 1>everybody starts like freaking out, we know that that's actually

0:23:09.920 --> 0:23:13.760
<v Speaker 1>their nicknames. Their real names are. His father is a

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<v Speaker 1>ti chick cook, a tchick cook it's really hard to pronounce.

0:23:18.760 --> 0:23:22.320
<v Speaker 1>Mulatto Buck is his wife, and his son is lump

0:23:22.400 --> 0:23:26.480
<v Speaker 1>O war Ump but as named by Lucas. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but Lucas also named him Lumpy Itchy and Mala so um.

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<v Speaker 1>They're all back there wringing their hands, trying to figure

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<v Speaker 1>out ways to pass the time until they get word

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<v Speaker 1>from Chewbacca that he's made it to uh what is it, ketchuck, zuck,

0:23:43.119 --> 0:23:47.560
<v Speaker 1>kazook Um. Just say ketchup, ketchup or cats up if

0:23:47.560 --> 0:23:52.680
<v Speaker 1>you're fancy. Um. But Chewbacca is having trouble getting back

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<v Speaker 1>to Katchuk because there's kazuock, because there's a blockade by

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<v Speaker 1>the Empire and they're looking for rebels, specifically Chewbacca. Who

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't realize this. He's the most famous Wookie of

0:24:05.040 --> 0:24:07.520
<v Speaker 1>all did you know that? Yeah, of course I didn't

0:24:07.520 --> 0:24:09.480
<v Speaker 1>know that. Well, I mean, he's the only one that

0:24:09.520 --> 0:24:13.040
<v Speaker 1>really appears in the movies I mean that we're seeing, like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, these people's view of the universe. What about

0:24:16.920 --> 0:24:20.359
<v Speaker 1>back on book Ye, he might have just been a

0:24:20.400 --> 0:24:23.040
<v Speaker 1>fly by night wookie, right, yeah, but not the case

0:24:23.640 --> 0:24:26.119
<v Speaker 1>very famous wookie. Yeah, and he really loved it, like

0:24:26.320 --> 0:24:29.840
<v Speaker 1>soak in his fame. All right, So he realizes there's

0:24:29.840 --> 0:24:32.359
<v Speaker 1>a problem. Valanche. He goes to Lucas and it's like,

0:24:33.240 --> 0:24:36.159
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, man, this is your world, but it

0:24:36.200 --> 0:24:39.400
<v Speaker 1>may not be the strongest thing to do to set

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<v Speaker 1>this in wookie Land and have all this incomprehensible dialogue.

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<v Speaker 1>And he says he was met with a glacial stare. Uh. Well,

0:24:47.119 --> 0:24:49.480
<v Speaker 1>he put it a little differently than that. Well, he

0:24:49.480 --> 0:24:52.840
<v Speaker 1>said glacial stair. He did. The glacial stair that he

0:24:52.920 --> 0:24:56.879
<v Speaker 1>got was for this quote. He said, these people just

0:24:56.920 --> 0:24:59.560
<v Speaker 1>talk and what sounds like fat people having an orgasm.

0:25:00.119 --> 0:25:01.639
<v Speaker 1>He goes, if you want, you can set up a

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<v Speaker 1>tape recorder in my bedroom and I'll do all of

0:25:03.760 --> 0:25:06.520
<v Speaker 1>the follying for it. Yeah he's a large guy, he is,

0:25:06.600 --> 0:25:10.080
<v Speaker 1>so uh that's what got the glacial stare. But Valanche

0:25:10.160 --> 0:25:13.119
<v Speaker 1>later said that from this, there was one development meeting

0:25:13.359 --> 0:25:16.520
<v Speaker 1>that Lucas attended and it was here's the Wookie Bible.

0:25:17.400 --> 0:25:20.359
<v Speaker 1>Tell me what you got, And Valanche said he and

0:25:20.400 --> 0:25:23.440
<v Speaker 1>the other writers and producers and director were just kind

0:25:23.440 --> 0:25:27.000
<v Speaker 1>of throwing ideas, and George Lucas would either say like, no,

0:25:27.160 --> 0:25:30.520
<v Speaker 1>that doesn't work, give him a glacial stare, or say, yes,

0:25:30.640 --> 0:25:34.480
<v Speaker 1>that's exactly it. Yes, let's make this a variety show. Yeah.

0:25:34.480 --> 0:25:37.359
<v Speaker 1>And there was a little bit of um background there.

0:25:37.440 --> 0:25:41.360
<v Speaker 1>The cantina players in the band had appeared on other

0:25:41.440 --> 0:25:44.960
<v Speaker 1>variety shows at that point, and I think it went

0:25:45.000 --> 0:25:47.879
<v Speaker 1>over fairly well, just as a short segment on like

0:25:47.920 --> 0:25:53.200
<v Speaker 1>the Richard Pryor Variety Show or Donnie Marie um Man.

0:25:53.240 --> 0:25:55.520
<v Speaker 1>There were a lot of variety shows. But that's what

0:25:55.560 --> 0:25:58.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. It was that was television. That's what you did,

0:25:58.560 --> 0:26:03.040
<v Speaker 1>Like the bread these um the The show had its

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<v Speaker 1>course and then it became a variety show. It was

0:26:05.960 --> 0:26:09.800
<v Speaker 1>just everybody love variety shows. By this time, though, everybody

0:26:09.840 --> 0:26:13.080
<v Speaker 1>was sick of variety shows and so it really was

0:26:13.240 --> 0:26:15.600
<v Speaker 1>a terrible choice. In fact, they even hired a couple

0:26:15.600 --> 0:26:19.120
<v Speaker 1>of writers from Shields and yarn l which I hadn't

0:26:19.119 --> 0:26:22.280
<v Speaker 1>heard of. Oh yeah, I watched it. It was creepy.

0:26:22.640 --> 0:26:26.360
<v Speaker 1>This mind couple who had their own variety show, and

0:26:26.760 --> 0:26:30.840
<v Speaker 1>they figured these two will be great because they are

0:26:30.920 --> 0:26:33.600
<v Speaker 1>used to working without words, right, So, and so there

0:26:33.680 --> 0:26:35.639
<v Speaker 1>is a certain logic to the variety show. It's not

0:26:36.640 --> 0:26:39.560
<v Speaker 1>it's just that variety shows were popular at the time.

0:26:40.480 --> 0:26:43.280
<v Speaker 1>Somebody was like, well, Wookie's you don't understand what they're saying.

0:26:43.480 --> 0:26:45.960
<v Speaker 1>So this is all going to be very physical. So

0:26:46.400 --> 0:26:50.280
<v Speaker 1>these people who who did what is it shields in yarn? Now, yeah,

0:26:50.320 --> 0:26:53.240
<v Speaker 1>that's a perfect choice. That that makes complete sense. You

0:26:53.240 --> 0:26:56.879
<v Speaker 1>can see this whole this whole process of leading up

0:26:56.880 --> 0:26:59.080
<v Speaker 1>to the point where it was produced and shot and everything.

0:26:59.760 --> 0:27:02.200
<v Speaker 1>It's series of like, oh, we have this problem, well

0:27:02.240 --> 0:27:04.920
<v Speaker 1>here's a fix. Yeah, but that leads to another problem.

0:27:04.960 --> 0:27:07.040
<v Speaker 1>Well we'll fix it with this, and and no one

0:27:07.119 --> 0:27:10.320
<v Speaker 1>stepping back and being like, all we've done is create

0:27:10.359 --> 0:27:13.280
<v Speaker 1>a series of problems that are going to come together

0:27:13.320 --> 0:27:17.480
<v Speaker 1>and make one extraordinarily large problem that will become legendary.

0:27:17.760 --> 0:27:20.159
<v Speaker 1>No one did that, and so the whole thing was

0:27:20.160 --> 0:27:24.640
<v Speaker 1>was made. That's right, And that eventually airs on November

0:27:24.720 --> 0:27:30.040
<v Speaker 1>sevent Friday at eight pm Eastern time. That's right, and

0:27:31.520 --> 0:27:35.720
<v Speaker 1>Nielsen ratings it um attracted thirteen million viewers. Uh just

0:27:36.040 --> 0:27:39.199
<v Speaker 1>the second hour, just in the US. It aired in

0:27:39.359 --> 0:27:42.680
<v Speaker 1>six or seven countries total. Yeah, but no one cares

0:27:42.680 --> 0:27:44.399
<v Speaker 1>about that, I guess not because none of those are

0:27:44.440 --> 0:27:47.920
<v Speaker 1>on the internet. Uh. It finished second to the Love

0:27:47.960 --> 0:27:50.120
<v Speaker 1>Boat in the second arm, sorry from eight to nine,

0:27:50.640 --> 0:27:53.400
<v Speaker 1>and in the next hour actually finished behind part two

0:27:53.440 --> 0:27:56.520
<v Speaker 1>of a mini series about Pearl Harbor starring Angie Dickinson.

0:27:56.600 --> 0:28:00.600
<v Speaker 1>So it didn't even win their respective hours. No t million,

0:28:00.640 --> 0:28:03.760
<v Speaker 1>that's that's not bad. The thing is, apparently if you

0:28:03.800 --> 0:28:07.760
<v Speaker 1>look at the Nielsen ratings graph for the first hour, yea,

0:28:07.840 --> 0:28:10.200
<v Speaker 1>we know about that graph. It's okay, yeah, we do.

0:28:10.480 --> 0:28:14.040
<v Speaker 1>And then after a very important part, which we'll talk

0:28:14.080 --> 0:28:17.040
<v Speaker 1>about soon. Um, it just drops off at the end

0:28:17.080 --> 0:28:19.840
<v Speaker 1>of the first hour. And that actually probably made the

0:28:19.880 --> 0:28:23.399
<v Speaker 1>executives at CBS cringe for a number of reasons. Number

0:28:23.400 --> 0:28:26.760
<v Speaker 1>one is this special was originally supposed to just be

0:28:26.880 --> 0:28:30.200
<v Speaker 1>an hour, but so many advertisers wanted to sign on

0:28:30.840 --> 0:28:35.040
<v Speaker 1>that they extended it to two hours. And it shines

0:28:35.119 --> 0:28:38.680
<v Speaker 1>through you can totally tell that this thing was never

0:28:38.720 --> 0:28:41.520
<v Speaker 1>supposed to I think an hour might have been stretching it.

0:28:41.560 --> 0:28:44.720
<v Speaker 1>To tell you the truth, it's thirty minutes of content,

0:28:45.080 --> 0:28:48.960
<v Speaker 1>forty if you're generous an hour and then two hours,

0:28:49.320 --> 0:28:51.720
<v Speaker 1>it becomes one of the worst things that was ever

0:28:51.760 --> 0:28:53.960
<v Speaker 1>put on television. All right, well, let's take a break

0:28:54.000 --> 0:28:55.800
<v Speaker 1>and then we'll talk a little bit more about the

0:28:55.800 --> 0:28:59.680
<v Speaker 1>actual um uh even I don't want to call it

0:28:59.720 --> 0:29:03.400
<v Speaker 1>content it but it is content in the strictest definitions.

0:29:03.840 --> 0:29:27.640
<v Speaker 1>Right after this, sorry gee, alright, So the show itself,

0:29:27.680 --> 0:29:31.040
<v Speaker 1>we've given you the main plot line, which again is

0:29:31.080 --> 0:29:33.880
<v Speaker 1>that Chewy is trying to get back to his home

0:29:33.880 --> 0:29:36.800
<v Speaker 1>planet to celebrate life Day with his family. Right, that's it,

0:29:37.360 --> 0:29:41.600
<v Speaker 1>And again we almost barely see Chewy. Yeah, the rest

0:29:41.720 --> 0:29:45.720
<v Speaker 1>is his family on because look waiting for him to

0:29:45.760 --> 0:29:48.000
<v Speaker 1>come back for a life Day. Yeah. So, um, some

0:29:48.080 --> 0:29:50.320
<v Speaker 1>of the various things they did, they were guest stars.

0:29:50.440 --> 0:29:53.680
<v Speaker 1>There was Harvey Corman from The Carol Burnett Show, one

0:29:53.680 --> 0:29:57.760
<v Speaker 1>of my all time favorites him or Carol Carol Burnett

0:29:57.800 --> 0:30:01.000
<v Speaker 1>Show both. He's great. Yeah, he actually if you watch

0:30:01.080 --> 0:30:04.960
<v Speaker 1>what he's doing, you're like, this is comedy genius. For apparently,

0:30:05.000 --> 0:30:06.840
<v Speaker 1>he too was like the only one on set that

0:30:06.880 --> 0:30:09.080
<v Speaker 1>was bringing levity. He was joking around and kind of

0:30:09.160 --> 0:30:11.560
<v Speaker 1>kept spirits up. Good for him, that's what I say.

0:30:11.800 --> 0:30:15.240
<v Speaker 1>And he had three, three different parts. Yeah, he played

0:30:15.360 --> 0:30:19.480
<v Speaker 1>uh well, I don't even know the names. Actually we

0:30:19.520 --> 0:30:22.480
<v Speaker 1>could look him up, but he played a He played

0:30:22.520 --> 0:30:26.880
<v Speaker 1>a Julia child like cook. There's an actual cooking segment,

0:30:27.520 --> 0:30:31.160
<v Speaker 1>a long one, a very long cooking segment where Chewbacca's

0:30:31.240 --> 0:30:35.280
<v Speaker 1>wife Um makes Banta stew to kill some time, to

0:30:35.360 --> 0:30:39.800
<v Speaker 1>kill some time because waiting on her planet and in

0:30:39.840 --> 0:30:42.400
<v Speaker 1>our living room. Yeah, so Harvey Corman is in Drag

0:30:42.520 --> 0:30:46.120
<v Speaker 1>is a foe armed Julia child like uh TV chef

0:30:47.360 --> 0:30:50.160
<v Speaker 1>And I think it's Gormanda. It's her name, Gormanda. That

0:30:50.320 --> 0:30:54.600
<v Speaker 1>makes total sense. He also plays Um. There's this one

0:30:54.640 --> 0:30:58.360
<v Speaker 1>weird bit where Chewbacca's son tries to figure out a

0:30:58.400 --> 0:31:01.760
<v Speaker 1>way to trick the stormtroopers. The Empire had come and

0:31:01.840 --> 0:31:04.920
<v Speaker 1>kind of because the blockade raided the house and other properties.

0:31:05.240 --> 0:31:07.880
<v Speaker 1>So he tries to trick them by I think, rigging

0:31:07.920 --> 0:31:11.360
<v Speaker 1>a calm link to speak in a different voice. So

0:31:11.400 --> 0:31:16.800
<v Speaker 1>he has to watch the instruction manual. He watches an

0:31:16.840 --> 0:31:21.280
<v Speaker 1>instruction video which was Harvey Kitel as a robot. Oh,

0:31:21.320 --> 0:31:24.240
<v Speaker 1>it would have been wonderful, little big Harvey Kitel did

0:31:24.480 --> 0:31:29.440
<v Speaker 1>Harvey Carvey corn Man Haye murders someone in the middle

0:31:29.480 --> 0:31:33.280
<v Speaker 1>of the instruction Harvey Corman. And then the final role

0:31:33.360 --> 0:31:36.320
<v Speaker 1>he had was as a a bar patron in the

0:31:36.440 --> 0:31:40.400
<v Speaker 1>cantina that drinks. He has a hole in the top

0:31:40.440 --> 0:31:42.960
<v Speaker 1>of his head like a volcano, where he pours his

0:31:43.040 --> 0:31:45.360
<v Speaker 1>drinks in. That's how he drinks. And he he loves

0:31:45.360 --> 0:31:48.040
<v Speaker 1>b Arthur. Did we mention be Arthur was in it?

0:31:48.200 --> 0:31:50.400
<v Speaker 1>B Arthur is not only in it, Chuck. She sings

0:31:50.400 --> 0:31:53.720
<v Speaker 1>a song. She does. She is thenotes to everyone she

0:31:53.880 --> 0:31:58.360
<v Speaker 1>manages or maybe owns. The owner. Yeah, the what's the

0:31:58.440 --> 0:32:02.720
<v Speaker 1>mas what moss deaf cantina? Uh? No, most of is

0:32:02.760 --> 0:32:06.240
<v Speaker 1>a rapper. Oh yeah, I think you mean Moss Eisley. Yes, yes,

0:32:06.280 --> 0:32:09.360
<v Speaker 1>that cantina. She's the owner. Be Arthur is the owner

0:32:09.520 --> 0:32:12.080
<v Speaker 1>be author of the Golden Girls, but in this case

0:32:12.120 --> 0:32:14.680
<v Speaker 1>the Arthur of Maude, because as one of the people

0:32:14.720 --> 0:32:16.479
<v Speaker 1>who wrote one of the articles we based this on

0:32:16.640 --> 0:32:19.560
<v Speaker 1>points out, she's just basically playing Maud as the owner

0:32:19.600 --> 0:32:23.160
<v Speaker 1>of the cantina. Yeah, and her song comes because um,

0:32:23.200 --> 0:32:27.040
<v Speaker 1>they basically say there's a lockdown, so you gotta call

0:32:27.160 --> 0:32:30.480
<v Speaker 1>last call um at your bar. So she calls last

0:32:30.480 --> 0:32:33.520
<v Speaker 1>call by singing a song to everyone. Right, and again

0:32:34.000 --> 0:32:37.920
<v Speaker 1>we can't possibly have the script lead anywhere else but

0:32:38.040 --> 0:32:41.280
<v Speaker 1>Chewbacca's house while his family waits for it. So all

0:32:41.360 --> 0:32:45.240
<v Speaker 1>this takes place as part of a public service announcement

0:32:45.320 --> 0:32:49.680
<v Speaker 1>basically broadcast by the Empire about how immoral life on

0:32:49.760 --> 0:32:53.440
<v Speaker 1>tattooing is. So let's go see what's going on in

0:32:53.640 --> 0:33:00.600
<v Speaker 1>the mos Eisley Cantina as it's being shut down for curfew. Alright,

0:33:00.720 --> 0:33:04.360
<v Speaker 1>this is incomprehensible, but it goes on. Um, so they're

0:33:04.360 --> 0:33:08.640
<v Speaker 1>in it. There's also Art Carney. Yes, he's the Honeymooners family,

0:33:08.680 --> 0:33:11.760
<v Speaker 1>the star of the whole thing. Really, he has the

0:33:11.800 --> 0:33:15.880
<v Speaker 1>most lines, I would say, the most comprehensible line. Right.

0:33:16.480 --> 0:33:20.560
<v Speaker 1>So he plays a trader, a human trader um that is,

0:33:20.840 --> 0:33:23.840
<v Speaker 1>uh recently been with Han Solo and Chewy and actually

0:33:23.920 --> 0:33:26.520
<v Speaker 1>gets to Kazook and says they're on the way. It's

0:33:26.520 --> 0:33:29.920
<v Speaker 1>all good. Yeah, a trade or not trade tour. Yeah,

0:33:30.040 --> 0:33:35.480
<v Speaker 1>traders in trades humans for you know money. No, he

0:33:35.880 --> 0:33:40.240
<v Speaker 1>he sells goods. Yeah, a trader. He doesn't trade humans. Yeah,

0:33:40.320 --> 0:33:43.480
<v Speaker 1>he's in the human trade. He No, he isn't. Really

0:33:44.440 --> 0:33:47.640
<v Speaker 1>he trades humans like he sells humans. I looked it

0:33:47.760 --> 0:33:50.160
<v Speaker 1>up in the Star Wars Encyclopedia said that he was

0:33:50.240 --> 0:33:54.760
<v Speaker 1>in the human trade. So in this Christmas special, apparently

0:33:54.800 --> 0:33:58.600
<v Speaker 1>they sanitized his his background because he's basically just selling

0:33:58.640 --> 0:34:01.440
<v Speaker 1>like gadgets and novelty and stuff like that to the

0:34:01.480 --> 0:34:05.800
<v Speaker 1>Wookies and the Empire who were occupying the area. Yes,

0:34:06.000 --> 0:34:10.439
<v Speaker 1>he comes bearing gifts because he's a friend of Chewbacca's family. Yeah,

0:34:10.920 --> 0:34:12.759
<v Speaker 1>so he comes bearing gifts. One of the gifts he

0:34:12.800 --> 0:34:16.640
<v Speaker 1>gives is a UM sort of like a little digital

0:34:16.680 --> 0:34:20.680
<v Speaker 1>insert to a Oh, I guess you would call it

0:34:20.719 --> 0:34:25.560
<v Speaker 1>a virtual reality hair dryer hair dryer, like a beauty

0:34:25.560 --> 0:34:29.239
<v Speaker 1>shop hair dryer. Right. He gives it to Grandpa Itchy.

0:34:29.440 --> 0:34:33.160
<v Speaker 1>Grandpa Itchy UM sits under this hair dryer pops in

0:34:33.200 --> 0:34:37.839
<v Speaker 1>this uh digital cassette, and it can only be described

0:34:37.920 --> 0:34:42.319
<v Speaker 1>as softcore porn. Apparently the writers who were interviewed for

0:34:42.360 --> 0:34:45.120
<v Speaker 1>this said that was totally the intent. They were trying

0:34:45.160 --> 0:34:48.200
<v Speaker 1>to get what amounted to softcore porn that would pass

0:34:48.280 --> 0:34:53.480
<v Speaker 1>the sensors. So it's all m you can't even say

0:34:53.480 --> 0:34:56.880
<v Speaker 1>it's innuendo. It's too obvious in overt for innuendo. Instead,

0:34:56.920 --> 0:35:02.520
<v Speaker 1>it's just it's just it's just gross. It's really gross.

0:35:02.800 --> 0:35:07.600
<v Speaker 1>Um Diane Carroll, Yes she is. Um, a Vegas staple

0:35:08.040 --> 0:35:14.960
<v Speaker 1>shows up and starts basically tantalizing. Um. Grandpa Itchy, who again,

0:35:15.080 --> 0:35:19.040
<v Speaker 1>this is Chewbacca's elderly father who now engages in some

0:35:19.120 --> 0:35:23.239
<v Speaker 1>sort of well he's he's watching virtual reality pornography now,

0:35:23.320 --> 0:35:26.040
<v Speaker 1>and this is a pretty lengthy segment in and of itself.

0:35:26.280 --> 0:35:29.319
<v Speaker 1>Well yeah, and she literally says to him like, now

0:35:29.360 --> 0:35:33.680
<v Speaker 1>I can see you're really excited. Yeah, it's pretty rough

0:35:33.719 --> 0:35:36.120
<v Speaker 1>to watch. Yeah, So then you've got another musical number

0:35:36.160 --> 0:35:42.719
<v Speaker 1>because also again he shudders, it's really strange, all right,

0:35:42.800 --> 0:35:45.359
<v Speaker 1>So there's also ah, I know, it seems like we're

0:35:45.400 --> 0:35:48.080
<v Speaker 1>jumping around, but it's it's so blow not like this

0:35:48.160 --> 0:35:50.920
<v Speaker 1>is pretty much like blow for blow. Um. Actually I

0:35:50.960 --> 0:35:54.760
<v Speaker 1>forgot earlier on in in the in the special, Um,

0:35:55.280 --> 0:35:58.960
<v Speaker 1>there's one of my favorite sequences is when Grandpa Itchy

0:35:59.040 --> 0:36:03.120
<v Speaker 1>goes over to Lumpy and basically sets up remember the

0:36:03.120 --> 0:36:06.160
<v Speaker 1>the hologram chessboard that they played in A New Hope,

0:36:06.560 --> 0:36:08.759
<v Speaker 1>basically kind of sets that up and says, here, just

0:36:08.800 --> 0:36:11.400
<v Speaker 1>play this. He pushes the button which is clearly a

0:36:11.480 --> 0:36:18.680
<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventies cassette recorder and another uh like it's like

0:36:18.719 --> 0:36:24.320
<v Speaker 1>a cirque de sol ay acid trip. Um gymnast routine

0:36:25.000 --> 0:36:28.000
<v Speaker 1>happens in front of the kid's eyes. And again this

0:36:28.080 --> 0:36:30.520
<v Speaker 1>all just it's not like it shows a snippet. They

0:36:30.520 --> 0:36:33.959
<v Speaker 1>showed the entire segments, like five, six, ten minutes long

0:36:34.480 --> 0:36:36.680
<v Speaker 1>of all of these things. So you would think, Okay,

0:36:36.880 --> 0:36:39.840
<v Speaker 1>they've gone to this hologram, well a couple of times,

0:36:40.400 --> 0:36:43.160
<v Speaker 1>why not go to it again? Well they do. They

0:36:43.200 --> 0:36:46.520
<v Speaker 1>do to kill more time. While the Imperial Guard is

0:36:46.640 --> 0:36:51.520
<v Speaker 1>ransacking their house. Um, Art Carney apparently, I guess it's

0:36:51.520 --> 0:36:54.040
<v Speaker 1>trying to get one of the Imperial Guard, the leader

0:36:54.320 --> 0:36:56.279
<v Speaker 1>I think, or one of the leaders who looks like

0:36:56.320 --> 0:37:00.000
<v Speaker 1>somebody from space Balls by the way, very much so. Um.

0:37:00.080 --> 0:37:02.040
<v Speaker 1>And the writer of the Vanity Fair article, by the

0:37:02.080 --> 0:37:05.880
<v Speaker 1>way said, um, this, this is so incomprehensible. The specialist

0:37:06.120 --> 0:37:08.520
<v Speaker 1>George Lucas didn't even have the schwartz with him at

0:37:08.560 --> 0:37:15.760
<v Speaker 1>the time. So anyway, our Carney's distracting this uh Imperial leader. Um,

0:37:15.920 --> 0:37:20.480
<v Speaker 1>while they're ransacking the Wookie's house, Chewbacca's house with a hologram,

0:37:20.760 --> 0:37:24.040
<v Speaker 1>and this hologram instead of being an acrobat or Diane

0:37:24.040 --> 0:37:26.359
<v Speaker 1>Carroll or any kind of porn or anything like that

0:37:27.000 --> 0:37:32.319
<v Speaker 1>is Jefferson Starship and they decide that they're going to

0:37:32.400 --> 0:37:35.760
<v Speaker 1>play Light the Sky on Fire, which apparently is about UFOs.

0:37:35.880 --> 0:37:38.839
<v Speaker 1>It's a little music video. Basically, it's a pretty Yeah,

0:37:38.920 --> 0:37:41.920
<v Speaker 1>it's the predecessor to like video Kill the Radio Storry

0:37:41.920 --> 0:37:45.880
<v Speaker 1>you can tell um. And again it is the whole

0:37:46.440 --> 0:37:50.960
<v Speaker 1>lengthy song, the whole thing. So every time that somebody's like,

0:37:51.400 --> 0:37:54.879
<v Speaker 1>we need to escape mentally from what's going on here

0:37:54.920 --> 0:37:58.520
<v Speaker 1>in our house, let's go into the video world, it's

0:37:58.560 --> 0:38:03.000
<v Speaker 1>not just and they don't cut back and forth. It's okay,

0:38:03.160 --> 0:38:07.160
<v Speaker 1>here's five minutes of Jefferson Starship performing this song. And

0:38:07.239 --> 0:38:10.319
<v Speaker 1>even the Jefferson Starship guys um were like, yeah, it's

0:38:10.360 --> 0:38:12.439
<v Speaker 1>sort of a weird trip, Like we didn't get it,

0:38:12.880 --> 0:38:15.680
<v Speaker 1>but we did it right. They gave us some money

0:38:15.880 --> 0:38:20.759
<v Speaker 1>and some cocaine. Well probably, so we said, yeah, chuck.

0:38:20.800 --> 0:38:24.200
<v Speaker 1>I think though, um, there yet another segment like this

0:38:24.760 --> 0:38:28.360
<v Speaker 1>is actually widely regarded as the high point of the

0:38:28.360 --> 0:38:32.640
<v Speaker 1>whole thing. So there's a cartoon. Actually yeah that lump

0:38:32.800 --> 0:38:36.880
<v Speaker 1>up watch Yeah, Lumpy's like the Imperial Guard is still

0:38:36.960 --> 0:38:40.800
<v Speaker 1>ransacking my house. I think I'll entertain myself by watching

0:38:40.800 --> 0:38:43.680
<v Speaker 1>a cartoon on my little Um, I don't know what.

0:38:44.040 --> 0:38:47.480
<v Speaker 1>I guess it was an iPad and uh, he watches

0:38:47.520 --> 0:38:50.919
<v Speaker 1>this cartoon and it's it's actually remarkable for a number

0:38:50.960 --> 0:38:53.160
<v Speaker 1>of reasons. It's the best part of the whole special

0:38:53.680 --> 0:38:57.880
<v Speaker 1>generally agreed upon as such, not just us. And it

0:38:57.920 --> 0:39:00.359
<v Speaker 1>introduces Boba Fett. It's the first time Boba fat ever

0:39:00.440 --> 0:39:03.160
<v Speaker 1>makes an appearance in Star Wars universe. Yeah, it's actually

0:39:03.160 --> 0:39:06.080
<v Speaker 1>not a bad And you can't find it in the

0:39:06.080 --> 0:39:07.920
<v Speaker 1>the one version I told you to watch. They removed

0:39:07.920 --> 0:39:10.600
<v Speaker 1>it for copyright. But he didn't watch a separate version, right,

0:39:10.680 --> 0:39:13.080
<v Speaker 1>you can find it on its own. Yeah, And it's Um,

0:39:13.120 --> 0:39:15.680
<v Speaker 1>it's very much reminiscent of like the cartoon style of

0:39:15.680 --> 0:39:18.520
<v Speaker 1>the day, like a he Man or something even even,

0:39:18.680 --> 0:39:22.200
<v Speaker 1>but it's even a little more artsy than that. Yeah.

0:39:22.200 --> 0:39:24.480
<v Speaker 1>But it does have a plot that you can follow

0:39:24.560 --> 0:39:27.640
<v Speaker 1>that makes sense as a Star Wars thing, and it

0:39:27.680 --> 0:39:30.520
<v Speaker 1>introduces Boba Fette, like you said, And um, it's actually

0:39:30.600 --> 0:39:32.600
<v Speaker 1>not bad. It's like Luke and R two and C

0:39:32.800 --> 0:39:35.319
<v Speaker 1>three p O. Yeah, and there's like they crash on

0:39:35.360 --> 0:39:37.200
<v Speaker 1>a planet or something. Yeah, and Han and Jewry you're

0:39:37.200 --> 0:39:38.640
<v Speaker 1>in it and it's the first time we see in

0:39:38.719 --> 0:39:41.959
<v Speaker 1>Darth Vader. It's the first time we see Boba Fett

0:39:42.120 --> 0:39:45.520
<v Speaker 1>and that he is uh, that he is just doing

0:39:45.560 --> 0:39:48.239
<v Speaker 1>whatever he can do for money. Like Luke trusts him

0:39:48.239 --> 0:39:50.000
<v Speaker 1>at first, C three pos like you sure you should

0:39:50.000 --> 0:39:52.080
<v Speaker 1>trust him this quick, and he's like, oh, three p

0:39:52.239 --> 0:39:55.000
<v Speaker 1>o you and your non trusting ways, And then it

0:39:55.040 --> 0:39:57.120
<v Speaker 1>turns out he's selling them out to the dark side.

0:39:57.320 --> 0:40:00.239
<v Speaker 1>So it's it's basically Boba Fett is an al worry

0:40:00.239 --> 0:40:30.799
<v Speaker 1>for George Lucas himself. So the cartoon comes and goes,

0:40:30.840 --> 0:40:32.919
<v Speaker 1>and that was the thing that came at about the

0:40:33.080 --> 0:40:37.040
<v Speaker 1>end of the first hour mark, and after that everybody

0:40:37.080 --> 0:40:40.680
<v Speaker 1>just turned off their television sets. Yeah, I don't remember.

0:40:41.400 --> 0:40:43.120
<v Speaker 1>Did you watch this when it came up? Yeah? I

0:40:43.120 --> 0:40:45.839
<v Speaker 1>remember watching it, but I don't remember much about it,

0:40:45.880 --> 0:40:47.799
<v Speaker 1>like if I made it through it all. I mean

0:40:47.840 --> 0:40:49.839
<v Speaker 1>it was I was seven and it was on until ten,

0:40:49.880 --> 0:40:52.120
<v Speaker 1>so I probably didn't make it through it all. Um,

0:40:52.520 --> 0:40:56.520
<v Speaker 1>you're probably disturbed. Who knows, I just remember that. I'll

0:40:56.560 --> 0:40:58.240
<v Speaker 1>have to ask my brother. He might have a memory

0:40:58.239 --> 0:41:01.080
<v Speaker 1>of this. Oh, Betty does I'm sure he met everybody

0:41:01.080 --> 0:41:03.680
<v Speaker 1>afterwards or something like that, you know, it has a picture. Well,

0:41:03.719 --> 0:41:06.200
<v Speaker 1>he was ten at that point. Cynicism had, you know,

0:41:06.320 --> 0:41:10.160
<v Speaker 1>become a thing in his life. Probably by then, didn't

0:41:10.160 --> 0:41:13.160
<v Speaker 1>that when cynicism kicks into he's Scott holding out the

0:41:13.239 --> 0:41:17.560
<v Speaker 1>fourteen fifteen Yeah maybe so so um chuck, the whole

0:41:17.560 --> 0:41:20.200
<v Speaker 1>thing finally does in. And actually there's a guy his

0:41:20.280 --> 0:41:22.640
<v Speaker 1>name is Nathan Raban, he writes over at the A

0:41:22.719 --> 0:41:24.919
<v Speaker 1>V Club. He had a great quote. He basically said

0:41:24.920 --> 0:41:28.400
<v Speaker 1>that one of the great redeeming values of this um,

0:41:28.400 --> 0:41:30.800
<v Speaker 1>this special is that it does eventually end. Yeah, you

0:41:30.840 --> 0:41:33.359
<v Speaker 1>know what the first part of the quote is, I'm

0:41:33.400 --> 0:41:36.040
<v Speaker 1>not convinced the special wasn't ultimately written and directed by

0:41:36.080 --> 0:41:40.440
<v Speaker 1>a sentient bag of cocaine. And like, go read his

0:41:40.440 --> 0:41:43.160
<v Speaker 1>his review of the Star Wars Holiday Special, because he

0:41:43.320 --> 0:41:45.759
<v Speaker 1>goes on to describe exactly what that must have been,

0:41:45.840 --> 0:41:48.360
<v Speaker 1>like the development meeting where the bag of cocaine is

0:41:48.400 --> 0:41:51.839
<v Speaker 1>pacing back and forth talking about what should happen. That's

0:41:51.840 --> 0:41:54.480
<v Speaker 1>what it feels like. But it doesn't, and it ends

0:41:56.360 --> 0:41:59.600
<v Speaker 1>even more. It takes this bizarre two hours and wraps

0:41:59.600 --> 0:42:02.239
<v Speaker 1>it up in just a nice bizarre bow. Yeah, so

0:42:02.280 --> 0:42:08.360
<v Speaker 1>what happens is eventually Han Solo should we say spoiler alert. Eventually,

0:42:08.360 --> 0:42:10.279
<v Speaker 1>Han Solo and Chewy make it to the planet. They

0:42:10.320 --> 0:42:12.960
<v Speaker 1>park on the far side of the planet because they

0:42:13.000 --> 0:42:16.080
<v Speaker 1>know the uh the Imperial forces are there and the

0:42:16.120 --> 0:42:19.200
<v Speaker 1>exercise will do chew we good, so they have to

0:42:19.239 --> 0:42:21.560
<v Speaker 1>hike over there. They eventually make it back home. Uh

0:42:21.600 --> 0:42:25.560
<v Speaker 1>they find a storm the stormtroopers at their house. Um,

0:42:26.120 --> 0:42:30.640
<v Speaker 1>their tree hut. Yeah, which by the paintings that set

0:42:30.640 --> 0:42:33.239
<v Speaker 1>this up, I don't think we mentioned I don't even

0:42:33.239 --> 0:42:35.440
<v Speaker 1>call him Matt paintings that it looks like someone painted

0:42:35.520 --> 0:42:37.759
<v Speaker 1>something on the wall and they just like put a

0:42:37.760 --> 0:42:40.080
<v Speaker 1>camera in front of it pretty much. Yeah. So they

0:42:40.080 --> 0:42:44.320
<v Speaker 1>get back and um, Chewbacca, Han Solo hides around the

0:42:44.360 --> 0:42:46.680
<v Speaker 1>corner of Chewbacca steps in front of his son to

0:42:46.760 --> 0:42:52.720
<v Speaker 1>protect him. Han Solo jumps out, and the stormtrooper trips

0:42:52.840 --> 0:42:55.800
<v Speaker 1>over a pile of logs and falls over the balcony

0:42:56.000 --> 0:42:58.440
<v Speaker 1>and dies in a holiday special. So they wouldn't even

0:42:58.760 --> 0:43:01.400
<v Speaker 1>not only could he not shoot for first with Grido,

0:43:02.080 --> 0:43:05.759
<v Speaker 1>but they couldn't even have him like wrestle the stormtrooper

0:43:05.800 --> 0:43:09.200
<v Speaker 1>and throw him off. He trips over a log and

0:43:09.280 --> 0:43:12.040
<v Speaker 1>Han Solo has his hands thrown up Like wasn't me.

0:43:12.239 --> 0:43:17.160
<v Speaker 1>It might also been a banana peal, you know. But again, uh,

0:43:17.200 --> 0:43:22.160
<v Speaker 1>this is basically produced by vaudevillians starring vaudevillians. Why not

0:43:22.280 --> 0:43:24.800
<v Speaker 1>have the one death take place from basically what it

0:43:24.800 --> 0:43:28.400
<v Speaker 1>amounts to somebody slipping on a banana peel. It's a

0:43:28.440 --> 0:43:31.319
<v Speaker 1>perfect way to end it. So that's uh that that

0:43:31.440 --> 0:43:34.520
<v Speaker 1>guy basically represents the end of the imperial threat for

0:43:34.600 --> 0:43:38.680
<v Speaker 1>the rest of Life Day. And um, we we then

0:43:38.760 --> 0:43:42.839
<v Speaker 1>see Life Day being celebrated, which is celebrated by lots

0:43:42.880 --> 0:43:46.960
<v Speaker 1>of wookies assembling in what looks like a giant Olan

0:43:47.040 --> 0:43:53.120
<v Speaker 1>Mills portrait. Um, and all of them are wearing red robes.

0:43:54.360 --> 0:43:56.480
<v Speaker 1>And I know I'm up talking, and it's because my

0:43:56.520 --> 0:43:59.600
<v Speaker 1>mind is still having trouble like wrapping around this. And

0:43:59.640 --> 0:44:03.719
<v Speaker 1>then um, Princess Leia comes out with C three P

0:44:03.880 --> 0:44:07.279
<v Speaker 1>O is Mark Hamill there, the whole gangs there, I from, Okay,

0:44:07.320 --> 0:44:09.440
<v Speaker 1>the whole gangs there. And then they all gather around

0:44:09.760 --> 0:44:13.640
<v Speaker 1>to hear a great quote from Princess Leiah, which we

0:44:13.680 --> 0:44:18.920
<v Speaker 1>will read um verbatim. This holiday is yours, but we

0:44:19.040 --> 0:44:21.600
<v Speaker 1>all share with you the hope that this day brings

0:44:21.640 --> 0:44:24.839
<v Speaker 1>us closer to freedom into harmony and to peace. No

0:44:24.880 --> 0:44:27.600
<v Speaker 1>matter how different we appear, we're all the same in

0:44:27.640 --> 0:44:30.400
<v Speaker 1>our struggle against the powers of evil and darkness. I

0:44:30.440 --> 0:44:32.400
<v Speaker 1>hope that this day will always be a day of

0:44:32.520 --> 0:44:36.440
<v Speaker 1>joy in which we can reconfirm our dedication and our courage,

0:44:36.719 --> 0:44:39.040
<v Speaker 1>and more than anything else, our love for one another.

0:44:39.480 --> 0:44:43.359
<v Speaker 1>This is the promise of the Tree of life que song, right,

0:44:43.560 --> 0:44:45.960
<v Speaker 1>And we should also point out the tree of life

0:44:45.960 --> 0:44:49.400
<v Speaker 1>has never been mentioned up to this point. A sudden

0:44:49.400 --> 0:44:51.959
<v Speaker 1>appearance at the end, and when you said que song,

0:44:52.239 --> 0:44:56.399
<v Speaker 1>by que song, you mean Princess Leia starts singing. Yeah.

0:44:56.520 --> 0:44:59.799
<v Speaker 1>And apparently that was one of the big contingencies on

0:45:00.000 --> 0:45:02.919
<v Speaker 1>Harry Fischer being involved. She's going through the phase where

0:45:02.920 --> 0:45:04.840
<v Speaker 1>she was like, I kind of like singing Bruce Valanche

0:45:04.880 --> 0:45:07.720
<v Speaker 1>calls it, or Joni Mitchell period. Yeah, and she somehow

0:45:07.760 --> 0:45:11.000
<v Speaker 1>convinced them to let her sing as Princess Leiah and

0:45:11.160 --> 0:45:14.640
<v Speaker 1>she does. And again I've said that she looks like

0:45:14.680 --> 0:45:16.799
<v Speaker 1>she's on drugs. This is the point where she really

0:45:16.840 --> 0:45:18.560
<v Speaker 1>does look like she's on drugs. And it's not just

0:45:18.640 --> 0:45:23.360
<v Speaker 1>me Um other writers who've written reviews of this. It's

0:45:23.360 --> 0:45:28.000
<v Speaker 1>really obvious that she possibly smoked a decent amount of

0:45:28.040 --> 0:45:33.359
<v Speaker 1>pot before she shot this shot this scene. But she sings, Oh, okay,

0:45:33.400 --> 0:45:37.680
<v Speaker 1>it's fine. It's just the fact that um, Princess Leiah

0:45:37.680 --> 0:45:40.319
<v Speaker 1>is singing. And actually, Bruce Valanche had a really great

0:45:40.400 --> 0:45:43.800
<v Speaker 1>quote too. He says that, um, she very much wanted

0:45:43.840 --> 0:45:46.000
<v Speaker 1>to show this side of her talent, and there was

0:45:46.080 --> 0:45:48.880
<v Speaker 1>general dismay because this was not what we wanted Princess

0:45:48.960 --> 0:45:52.319
<v Speaker 1>Leia to be doing. She did it anyway. So the

0:45:52.360 --> 0:45:55.560
<v Speaker 1>whole thing ends with her singing this song about life day,

0:45:55.600 --> 0:46:02.440
<v Speaker 1>which is set loosely to the John Williams Starr Worst theme. Yeah.

0:46:02.600 --> 0:46:05.239
<v Speaker 1>Uh So along the way, the director original director quit,

0:46:05.640 --> 0:46:08.080
<v Speaker 1>a new director, Steve Binder was hired to finish the

0:46:08.160 --> 0:46:11.120
<v Speaker 1>job and bring it in. Uh. And he did over

0:46:11.239 --> 0:46:15.080
<v Speaker 1>the original one million dollar budget, of course always Uh.

0:46:15.120 --> 0:46:17.880
<v Speaker 1>He did bring it in and um at this point

0:46:18.280 --> 0:46:22.000
<v Speaker 1>George Lucas had uh. He was he was working on

0:46:22.040 --> 0:46:24.040
<v Speaker 1>Empire Strikes Back. He didn't know what was going on.

0:46:24.480 --> 0:46:26.799
<v Speaker 1>He wasn't around for the shoot. No, it wasn't until

0:46:26.840 --> 0:46:29.120
<v Speaker 1>it aired. I think that he actually saw it. Yes,

0:46:29.239 --> 0:46:32.800
<v Speaker 1>and it was a travesty obviously, if you haven't noticed

0:46:32.840 --> 0:46:36.680
<v Speaker 1>that by now, Critics hated it. Star Wars fans really

0:46:36.680 --> 0:46:39.080
<v Speaker 1>hated it. Everybody hate The people who were in it

0:46:39.120 --> 0:46:43.080
<v Speaker 1>hated it. Lucas hated it. Even Harvey Corman secretly hated it.

0:46:43.360 --> 0:46:48.240
<v Speaker 1>Even Harvey Kitel hated Actually he loved it. But Lucas

0:46:48.320 --> 0:46:50.560
<v Speaker 1>has been asked over the years about it a lot,

0:46:50.640 --> 0:46:53.120
<v Speaker 1>and he doesn't talk about it much. But in two

0:46:53.120 --> 0:46:55.360
<v Speaker 1>thousand five, and I don't buy this for a second,

0:46:56.040 --> 0:46:58.960
<v Speaker 1>he says, um it was an interview he said special

0:46:59.000 --> 0:47:02.520
<v Speaker 1>from I really didn't have much to do with us.

0:47:02.560 --> 0:47:04.880
<v Speaker 1>You know that part is true. I can't remember what

0:47:04.960 --> 0:47:07.359
<v Speaker 1>network it was even on, but it was a thing

0:47:07.400 --> 0:47:09.799
<v Speaker 1>that they did. That's a lie. There's no way he

0:47:09.800 --> 0:47:12.840
<v Speaker 1>doesn't know that was cvt uh. We kind of just

0:47:12.920 --> 0:47:15.359
<v Speaker 1>let them do it. I believe that it was done

0:47:15.400 --> 0:47:17.480
<v Speaker 1>by I can't even remember who the group was, but

0:47:17.520 --> 0:47:20.360
<v Speaker 1>they were variety TV guys. I'm sure he remembers a

0:47:20.360 --> 0:47:23.239
<v Speaker 1>few of them. We let them use the characters and stuff,

0:47:23.239 --> 0:47:25.000
<v Speaker 1>and that probably wasn't the smartest thing to do, but

0:47:25.320 --> 0:47:28.359
<v Speaker 1>you learn from those experiences. I think they even used

0:47:29.000 --> 0:47:32.640
<v Speaker 1>some of the footage from the movie at the end.

0:47:32.800 --> 0:47:35.359
<v Speaker 1>It looks like some space like a highlight reel. Yeah,

0:47:35.960 --> 0:47:39.360
<v Speaker 1>the gang, well, and during the UM it looked like

0:47:39.400 --> 0:47:41.680
<v Speaker 1>some of the they had some insert shots of like

0:47:41.960 --> 0:47:46.439
<v Speaker 1>Imperial cruisers and Thai fighters and stuff that. Remember when

0:47:46.760 --> 0:47:50.200
<v Speaker 1>when Chewbacca like leans back and puts his hands behind it, Yeah,

0:47:50.280 --> 0:47:52.120
<v Speaker 1>that's in there. It's it's like a it's just a

0:47:52.200 --> 0:47:54.799
<v Speaker 1>highlight reel from the movie saying like I feel like this,

0:47:55.040 --> 0:47:57.520
<v Speaker 1>go see the move well, and also that means it

0:47:57.560 --> 0:47:59.680
<v Speaker 1>doesn't match the look of the rest of it at all. Yeah,

0:47:59.719 --> 0:48:04.239
<v Speaker 1>that's just sort of inserted. They tried, They definitely tried, UM,

0:48:04.280 --> 0:48:06.400
<v Speaker 1>And George Lucas is totally full of it because in

0:48:07.200 --> 0:48:10.440
<v Speaker 1>seven he told star Log magazine that the Christmas Special

0:48:10.440 --> 0:48:14.160
<v Speaker 1>would be out on video cassette very soon, and in

0:48:14.200 --> 0:48:16.560
<v Speaker 1>two thousand seven, two years after that quote, you just

0:48:16.640 --> 0:48:18.000
<v Speaker 1>read where he's like, I don't even know what you're

0:48:18.040 --> 0:48:23.440
<v Speaker 1>talking about. Basically, UM. He apparently considered releasing the Christmas

0:48:23.480 --> 0:48:26.960
<v Speaker 1>Special as a bonus on the the DVDs of the

0:48:27.000 --> 0:48:31.560
<v Speaker 1>first three right, but did not didn't And apparently Carrie

0:48:31.560 --> 0:48:33.759
<v Speaker 1>Fisher told Lucas that if you want me to do

0:48:34.440 --> 0:48:38.920
<v Speaker 1>UM DVD extras commentary commentary, then I want a clean,

0:48:38.960 --> 0:48:43.520
<v Speaker 1>original copy of the Holiday Special, So why go ahead?

0:48:43.680 --> 0:48:45.560
<v Speaker 1>So I can play at parties what I want people

0:48:45.600 --> 0:48:50.520
<v Speaker 1>to leave. It's pretty great. It is so uh and

0:48:50.640 --> 0:48:53.280
<v Speaker 1>there is one of those clean copies is floating around

0:48:53.280 --> 0:48:55.200
<v Speaker 1>out there, so you can watch this in it in

0:48:55.280 --> 0:48:59.200
<v Speaker 1>its entirety. Some of it, like the cartoon, was removed

0:48:59.280 --> 0:49:01.400
<v Speaker 1>due to copy right infringement and that kind of stuff,

0:49:01.560 --> 0:49:04.440
<v Speaker 1>but as as the case with the rest of the Internet,

0:49:04.440 --> 0:49:06.800
<v Speaker 1>you can just go find it elsewhere and piece it together.

0:49:07.000 --> 0:49:12.160
<v Speaker 1>There's also the original ads that aired in Baltimore that

0:49:12.239 --> 0:49:16.000
<v Speaker 1>are just fascinating. Ye. Those are always fun gm ads

0:49:16.400 --> 0:49:18.839
<v Speaker 1>where one of the guys who's in quality control is

0:49:19.200 --> 0:49:21.520
<v Speaker 1>he says, did you watch it? I don't think I

0:49:21.560 --> 0:49:24.080
<v Speaker 1>saw that. He goes, um, we really care about these

0:49:24.120 --> 0:49:27.680
<v Speaker 1>cars and that's no job man, a GM man, and

0:49:27.719 --> 0:49:31.040
<v Speaker 1>he's like, it's serious. They're trying to be hip. Yeah. Um,

0:49:31.080 --> 0:49:35.440
<v Speaker 1>it's a pretty good stuff. Here's my final thought on it.

0:49:36.239 --> 0:49:38.839
<v Speaker 1>I love it. It It does not taint my Star Wars

0:49:38.920 --> 0:49:42.200
<v Speaker 1>experience or my love for the franchise, and I'm glad

0:49:42.320 --> 0:49:45.759
<v Speaker 1>it is out there because it it's a it's a

0:49:45.760 --> 0:49:51.640
<v Speaker 1>fun little stain that shouldn't be taken too seriously. I

0:49:51.680 --> 0:49:55.120
<v Speaker 1>think it adds to it actually because it's campy and awful,

0:49:55.800 --> 0:49:58.440
<v Speaker 1>and I don't know somehow that enriches the rest of it.

0:49:59.200 --> 0:50:01.879
<v Speaker 1>I'm with you, you like it? Oh yeah, I mean

0:50:01.920 --> 0:50:03.759
<v Speaker 1>I watched it twice. I wouldn't watched it a second.

0:50:03.800 --> 0:50:06.359
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't have made it through the first time. Let

0:50:06.360 --> 0:50:08.919
<v Speaker 1>me take that back. I'm a pro, so I would

0:50:08.920 --> 0:50:10.360
<v Speaker 1>have made it through the first time. I wouldn't have

0:50:10.360 --> 0:50:12.520
<v Speaker 1>watched it the second time if I wasn't. There wasn't

0:50:12.560 --> 0:50:14.480
<v Speaker 1>something about it, and I figured out. I think the

0:50:14.520 --> 0:50:16.880
<v Speaker 1>thing that I like the most about it is Lumpy,

0:50:17.040 --> 0:50:21.719
<v Speaker 1>Chewbacca's son, played by an actress named Patty Maloney, who

0:50:21.760 --> 0:50:25.799
<v Speaker 1>frankly is hands down the best actor in the entire thing.

0:50:26.320 --> 0:50:30.480
<v Speaker 1>She like her responses and everything is just awesome. I

0:50:30.520 --> 0:50:34.000
<v Speaker 1>think my favorite parts are, uh, well, there's a great

0:50:34.040 --> 0:50:38.319
<v Speaker 1>Wilhelm screamed trips over the law. Jerry would not have

0:50:38.440 --> 0:50:42.480
<v Speaker 1>noticed it. Uh And then there's a part where all

0:50:42.520 --> 0:50:45.160
<v Speaker 1>the Wookie dialogue you can't understand, but there's clearly one

0:50:45.200 --> 0:50:48.719
<v Speaker 1>part where where Itchy and Lumpy are have any exchange

0:50:49.120 --> 0:50:53.759
<v Speaker 1>where Lumpy you can make it out goes yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:50:53.920 --> 0:50:56.960
<v Speaker 1>I noticed that, but it's covered up. But someone was like,

0:50:57.000 --> 0:50:59.080
<v Speaker 1>we have to have at least one exchange where you

0:50:59.080 --> 0:51:01.719
<v Speaker 1>sort of know what they're saying, or they were like,

0:51:01.760 --> 0:51:03.319
<v Speaker 1>I think she just said I love you. Should we

0:51:03.400 --> 0:51:06.120
<v Speaker 1>have them redo it? And then directors like no, I

0:51:06.280 --> 0:51:08.520
<v Speaker 1>want to go and Chuck. There's one other thing that

0:51:08.560 --> 0:51:11.560
<v Speaker 1>I figured out from watching this. It's not readily apparent.

0:51:12.320 --> 0:51:15.080
<v Speaker 1>The whole thing is made all the more odd, and

0:51:15.080 --> 0:51:19.239
<v Speaker 1>that there's situation after situation after situation where we as

0:51:19.320 --> 0:51:23.000
<v Speaker 1>normal audiences, were trained to expect the laugh track, but

0:51:23.040 --> 0:51:26.080
<v Speaker 1>there's not a laugh track. Had there been a laugh track,

0:51:26.880 --> 0:51:31.560
<v Speaker 1>it what it might have been less bizarre, but the

0:51:31.600 --> 0:51:34.720
<v Speaker 1>fact that it's missing just makes your agitates the mind.

0:51:35.000 --> 0:51:37.680
<v Speaker 1>So it's this whole additional element that it is weird.

0:51:37.719 --> 0:51:39.719
<v Speaker 1>I never thought about that. There's just weird moments of

0:51:39.719 --> 0:51:42.400
<v Speaker 1>silence all throughout it, like when Art Carney's doing his

0:51:42.520 --> 0:51:46.680
<v Speaker 1>thing and telling jokes. Yeah, okay, I agree with you, Chuck,

0:51:46.840 --> 0:51:48.959
<v Speaker 1>don't take things too seriously. I think that's the great

0:51:49.040 --> 0:51:52.120
<v Speaker 1>lesson in this and the lesson of life day it

0:51:52.320 --> 0:51:56.720
<v Speaker 1>is and in two thousand seven Riff tracks Great Mystery

0:51:56.719 --> 0:51:59.320
<v Speaker 1>Science Theater three thousand Guys Mike Nelson, Bill Corbett, and

0:51:59.360 --> 0:52:03.799
<v Speaker 1>Kevin Murphy uh provided audio commentary for the full version

0:52:03.800 --> 0:52:06.880
<v Speaker 1>of the special, So try and go grab that if

0:52:06.880 --> 0:52:08.239
<v Speaker 1>you can as well, Oh you can't. It's on the

0:52:08.280 --> 0:52:10.160
<v Speaker 1>site because it's great. I think it's like eight bucks

0:52:10.280 --> 0:52:12.760
<v Speaker 1>and those guys are awesome and they are at least

0:52:13.000 --> 0:52:18.920
<v Speaker 1>I think Corbett listens to us. So, hey, Corbett, you

0:52:19.000 --> 0:52:22.960
<v Speaker 1>got anything else? No, no, I think we did this.

0:52:23.600 --> 0:52:26.040
<v Speaker 1>There's some good stuff. Go read the Vanity Fair article

0:52:26.360 --> 0:52:29.359
<v Speaker 1>h Han Solo Comedy Hour. There's a book called How

0:52:29.400 --> 0:52:31.720
<v Speaker 1>Star Wars Conquered the Universe that has a very interesting

0:52:31.800 --> 0:52:34.000
<v Speaker 1>chapter about this. That's where we found it asserted that

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