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Speaker 1: Happy belated life day everyone. It's me Josh uh, and

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Speaker 1: I chose for this week's s Y s K selects

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Speaker 1: the Star Wars Holiday Special episode. It's true this just

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Speaker 1: came out two years back, but in my opinion, listening

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Speaker 1: to this episode should probably become a worldwide annual holiday tradition.

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Speaker 1: So we missed last year, we can just go ahead

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Speaker 1: you enjoy it, and Merry Christmas and happy holidays however

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Speaker 1: you celebrate them. Welcome to Stuff you should know from

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Speaker 1: how Stuff Works dot Com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm Josh Clark with Charles W. Chuckers Bryant and Jerry

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Speaker 1: Jerome Roland. Uh. Who's the Wookie mother? Yeah? Mala? That

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Speaker 1: was the Wookie wife. Oh and mother? Yeah sure, Chewbacca's

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Speaker 1: the window. I'm excited about this. I have to say

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Speaker 1: we should say Happy Star Wars Day. Yeah. Today is

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Speaker 1: um December. Um, I have my opening night tickets? Do

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Speaker 1: you really sure? Wow? You know I into it? Oh? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: But um, why won't be the opening night? Sure, I've

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Speaker 1: Uh Well, Happy Star Wars Day though, I'm sure that

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Speaker 1: I think this pairs nicely with Christmas Star Wars Day.

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Speaker 1: It's all come together. Yes, Um, we already missed Life

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Speaker 1: it this year? Novemb Yeah, but it's every three years.

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Speaker 1: Mm hmm, our cane man job. Okay, so it's every

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Speaker 1: two thousand fourteen was the last Life Day, man, we

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Speaker 1: idea what we're talking about. We are talking about Life Day,

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Speaker 1: which is a celebration, uh that Wookies in the Star

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Speaker 1: their Christmas or the Kanza, their tet. Supposedly, it's sort

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Speaker 1: And there was a little bit of um background there.

420
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:41,360
Speaker 1: The cantina players in the band had appeared on other

421
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 1: variety shows at that point, and I think it went

422
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,879
Speaker 1: over fairly well, just as a short segment on like

423
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:53,200
Speaker 1: the Richard Pryor Variety Show or Donnie Marie um Man.

424
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 1: There were a lot of variety shows. But that's what

425
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It was that was television. That's what you did,

426
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 1: Like the bread these um the The show had its

427
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,239
Speaker 1: course and then it became a variety show. It was

428
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 1: just everybody love variety shows. By this time, though, everybody

429
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 1: was sick of variety shows and so it really was

430
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 1: a terrible choice. In fact, they even hired a couple

431
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:19,120
Speaker 1: of writers from Shields and yarn l which I hadn't

432
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 1: heard of. Oh yeah, I watched it. It was creepy.

433
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:26,360
Speaker 1: This mind couple who had their own variety show, and

434
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 1: they figured these two will be great because they are

435
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 1: used to working without words, right, So, and so there

436
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:35,639
Speaker 1: is a certain logic to the variety show. It's not

437
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 1: it's just that variety shows were popular at the time.

438
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 1: Somebody was like, well, Wookie's you don't understand what they're saying.

439
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 1: So this is all going to be very physical. So

440
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 1: these people who who did what is it shields in yarn? Now, yeah,

441
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 1: that's a perfect choice. That that makes complete sense. You

442
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:56,879
Speaker 1: can see this whole this whole process of leading up

443
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 1: to the point where it was produced and shot and everything.

444
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 1: It's series of like, oh, we have this problem, well

445
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 1: here's a fix. Yeah, but that leads to another problem.

446
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 1: Well we'll fix it with this, and and no one

447
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 1: stepping back and being like, all we've done is create

448
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 1: a series of problems that are going to come together

449
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 1: and make one extraordinarily large problem that will become legendary.

450
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,159
Speaker 1: No one did that, and so the whole thing was

451
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:24,640
Speaker 1: was made. That's right, And that eventually airs on November

452
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 1: sevent Friday at eight pm Eastern time. That's right, and

453
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 1: Nielsen ratings it um attracted thirteen million viewers. Uh just

454
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,199
Speaker 1: the second hour, just in the US. It aired in

455
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,680
Speaker 1: six or seven countries total. Yeah, but no one cares

456
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:44,399
Speaker 1: about that, I guess not because none of those are

457
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,920
Speaker 1: on the internet. Uh. It finished second to the Love

458
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,120
Speaker 1: Boat in the second arm, sorry from eight to nine,

459
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,400
Speaker 1: and in the next hour actually finished behind part two

460
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 1: of a mini series about Pearl Harbor starring Angie Dickinson.

461
00:27:56,600 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 1: So it didn't even win their respective hours. No t million,

462
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 1: that's that's not bad. The thing is, apparently if you

463
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 1: look at the Nielsen ratings graph for the first hour, yea,

464
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 1: we know about that graph. It's okay, yeah, we do.

465
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 1: And then after a very important part, which we'll talk

466
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 1: about soon. Um, it just drops off at the end

467
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 1: of the first hour. And that actually probably made the

468
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:23,399
Speaker 1: executives at CBS cringe for a number of reasons. Number

469
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 1: one is this special was originally supposed to just be

470
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 1: an hour, but so many advertisers wanted to sign on

471
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 1: that they extended it to two hours. And it shines

472
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 1: through you can totally tell that this thing was never

473
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 1: supposed to I think an hour might have been stretching it.

474
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 1: To tell you the truth, it's thirty minutes of content,

475
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 1: forty if you're generous an hour and then two hours,

476
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 1: it becomes one of the worst things that was ever

477
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 1: put on television. All right, well, let's take a break

478
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 1: and then we'll talk a little bit more about the

479
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 1: actual um uh even I don't want to call it

480
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 1: content it but it is content in the strictest definitions.

481
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 1: Right after this, sorry gee, alright, So the show itself,

482
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 1: we've given you the main plot line, which again is

483
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 1: that Chewy is trying to get back to his home

484
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 1: planet to celebrate life Day with his family. Right, that's it,

485
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 1: And again we almost barely see Chewy. Yeah, the rest

486
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 1: is his family on because look waiting for him to

487
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 1: come back for a life Day. Yeah. So, um, some

488
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 1: of the various things they did, they were guest stars.

489
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 1: There was Harvey Corman from The Carol Burnett Show, one

490
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 1: of my all time favorites him or Carol Carol Burnett

491
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 1: Show both. He's great. Yeah, he actually if you watch

492
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 1: what he's doing, you're like, this is comedy genius. For apparently,

493
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 1: he too was like the only one on set that

494
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 1: was bringing levity. He was joking around and kind of

495
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 1: kept spirits up. Good for him, that's what I say.

496
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 1: And he had three, three different parts. Yeah, he played

497
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 1: uh well, I don't even know the names. Actually we

498
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 1: could look him up, but he played a He played

499
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 1: a Julia child like cook. There's an actual cooking segment,

500
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 1: a long one, a very long cooking segment where Chewbacca's

501
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 1: wife Um makes Banta stew to kill some time, to

502
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 1: kill some time because waiting on her planet and in

503
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 1: our living room. Yeah, so Harvey Corman is in Drag

504
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 1: is a foe armed Julia child like uh TV chef

505
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 1: And I think it's Gormanda. It's her name, Gormanda. That

506
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 1: makes total sense. He also plays Um. There's this one

507
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 1: weird bit where Chewbacca's son tries to figure out a

508
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 1: way to trick the stormtroopers. The Empire had come and

509
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 1: kind of because the blockade raided the house and other properties.

510
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 1: So he tries to trick them by I think, rigging

511
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 1: a calm link to speak in a different voice. So

512
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: he has to watch the instruction manual. He watches an

513
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 1: instruction video which was Harvey Kitel as a robot. Oh,

514
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 1: it would have been wonderful, little big Harvey Kitel did

515
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 1: Harvey Carvey corn Man Haye murders someone in the middle

516
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 1: of the instruction Harvey Corman. And then the final role

517
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 1: he had was as a a bar patron in the

518
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 1: cantina that drinks. He has a hole in the top

519
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 1: of his head like a volcano, where he pours his

520
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 1: drinks in. That's how he drinks. And he he loves

521
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 1: b Arthur. Did we mention be Arthur was in it?

522
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 1: B Arthur is not only in it, Chuck. She sings

523
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 1: a song. She does. She is thenotes to everyone she

524
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 1: manages or maybe owns. The owner. Yeah, the what's the

525
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 1: mas what moss deaf cantina? Uh? No, most of is

526
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 1: a rapper. Oh yeah, I think you mean Moss Eisley. Yes, yes,

527
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 1: that cantina. She's the owner. Be Arthur is the owner

528
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 1: be author of the Golden Girls, but in this case

529
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 1: the Arthur of Maude, because as one of the people

530
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,479
Speaker 1: who wrote one of the articles we based this on

531
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 1: points out, she's just basically playing Maud as the owner

532
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 1: of the cantina. Yeah, and her song comes because um,

533
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 1: they basically say there's a lockdown, so you gotta call

534
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 1: last call um at your bar. So she calls last

535
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 1: call by singing a song to everyone. Right, and again

536
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 1: we can't possibly have the script lead anywhere else but

537
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 1: Chewbacca's house while his family waits for it. So all

538
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: this takes place as part of a public service announcement

539
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 1: basically broadcast by the Empire about how immoral life on

540
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 1: tattooing is. So let's go see what's going on in

541
00:32:53,640 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 1: the mos Eisley Cantina as it's being shut down for curfew. Alright,

542
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 1: this is incomprehensible, but it goes on. Um, so they're

543
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 1: in it. There's also Art Carney. Yes, he's the Honeymooners family,

544
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 1: the star of the whole thing. Really, he has the

545
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 1: most lines, I would say, the most comprehensible line. Right.

546
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 1: So he plays a trader, a human trader um that is,

547
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 1: uh recently been with Han Solo and Chewy and actually

548
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 1: gets to Kazook and says they're on the way. It's

549
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 1: all good. Yeah, a trade or not trade tour. Yeah,

550
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 1: traders in trades humans for you know money. No, he

551
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 1: he sells goods. Yeah, a trader. He doesn't trade humans. Yeah,

552
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 1: he's in the human trade. He No, he isn't. Really

553
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 1: he trades humans like he sells humans. I looked it

554
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 1: up in the Star Wars Encyclopedia said that he was

555
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 1: in the human trade. So in this Christmas special, apparently

556
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 1: they sanitized his his background because he's basically just selling

557
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: like gadgets and novelty and stuff like that to the

558
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 1: Wookies and the Empire who were occupying the area. Yes,

559
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:10,439
Speaker 1: he comes bearing gifts because he's a friend of Chewbacca's family. Yeah,

560
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 1: so he comes bearing gifts. One of the gifts he

561
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 1: gives is a UM sort of like a little digital

562
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: insert to a Oh, I guess you would call it

563
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 1: a virtual reality hair dryer hair dryer, like a beauty

564
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 1: shop hair dryer. Right. He gives it to Grandpa Itchy.

565
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 1: Grandpa Itchy UM sits under this hair dryer pops in

566
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:37,839
Speaker 1: this uh digital cassette, and it can only be described

567
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 1: as softcore porn. Apparently the writers who were interviewed for

568
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 1: this said that was totally the intent. They were trying

569
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 1: to get what amounted to softcore porn that would pass

570
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 1: the sensors. So it's all m you can't even say

571
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 1: it's innuendo. It's too obvious in overt for innuendo. Instead,

572
00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 1: it's just it's just it's just gross. It's really gross.

573
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 1: Um Diane Carroll, Yes she is. Um, a Vegas staple

574
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 1: shows up and starts basically tantalizing. Um. Grandpa Itchy, who again,

575
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 1: this is Chewbacca's elderly father who now engages in some

576
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 1: sort of well he's he's watching virtual reality pornography now,

577
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 1: and this is a pretty lengthy segment in and of itself.

578
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 1: Well yeah, and she literally says to him like, now

579
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 1: I can see you're really excited. Yeah, it's pretty rough

580
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 1: to watch. Yeah, So then you've got another musical number

581
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 1: because also again he shudders, it's really strange, all right,

582
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,359
Speaker 1: So there's also ah, I know, it seems like we're

583
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 1: jumping around, but it's it's so blow not like this

584
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 1: is pretty much like blow for blow. Um. Actually I

585
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:54,760
Speaker 1: forgot earlier on in in the in the special, Um,

586
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 1: there's one of my favorite sequences is when Grandpa Itchy

587
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 1: goes over to Lumpy and basically sets up remember the

588
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 1: the hologram chessboard that they played in A New Hope,

589
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 1: basically kind of sets that up and says, here, just

590
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 1: play this. He pushes the button which is clearly a

591
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 1: nineteen seventies cassette recorder and another uh like it's like

592
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:24,320
Speaker 1: a cirque de sol ay acid trip. Um gymnast routine

593
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: happens in front of the kid's eyes. And again this

594
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: all just it's not like it shows a snippet. They

595
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,959
Speaker 1: showed the entire segments, like five, six, ten minutes long

596
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 1: of all of these things. So you would think, Okay,

597
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,840
Speaker 1: they've gone to this hologram, well a couple of times,

598
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 1: why not go to it again? Well they do. They

599
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 1: do to kill more time. While the Imperial Guard is

600
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 1: ransacking their house. Um, Art Carney apparently, I guess it's

601
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: trying to get one of the Imperial Guard, the leader

602
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 1: I think, or one of the leaders who looks like

603
00:36:56,320 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 1: somebody from space Balls by the way, very much so. Um.

604
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 1: And the writer of the Vanity Fair article, by the

605
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 1: way said, um, this, this is so incomprehensible. The specialist

606
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: George Lucas didn't even have the schwartz with him at

607
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:15,760
Speaker 1: the time. So anyway, our Carney's distracting this uh Imperial leader. Um,

608
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 1: while they're ransacking the Wookie's house, Chewbacca's house with a hologram,

609
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 1: and this hologram instead of being an acrobat or Diane

610
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,359
Speaker 1: Carroll or any kind of porn or anything like that

611
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 1: is Jefferson Starship and they decide that they're going to

612
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,760
Speaker 1: play Light the Sky on Fire, which apparently is about UFOs.

613
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,839
Speaker 1: It's a little music video. Basically, it's a pretty Yeah,

614
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 1: it's the predecessor to like video Kill the Radio Storry

615
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 1: you can tell um. And again it is the whole

616
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 1: lengthy song, the whole thing. So every time that somebody's like,

617
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,879
Speaker 1: we need to escape mentally from what's going on here

618
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: in our house, let's go into the video world, it's

619
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 1: not just and they don't cut back and forth. It's okay,

620
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 1: here's five minutes of Jefferson Starship performing this song. And

621
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 1: even the Jefferson Starship guys um were like, yeah, it's

622
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,439
Speaker 1: sort of a weird trip, Like we didn't get it,

623
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 1: but we did it right. They gave us some money

624
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 1: and some cocaine. Well probably, so we said, yeah, chuck.

625
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: I think though, um, there yet another segment like this

626
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 1: is actually widely regarded as the high point of the

627
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 1: whole thing. So there's a cartoon. Actually yeah that lump

628
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 1: up watch Yeah, Lumpy's like the Imperial Guard is still

629
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:40,800
Speaker 1: ransacking my house. I think I'll entertain myself by watching

630
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 1: a cartoon on my little Um, I don't know what.

631
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 1: I guess it was an iPad and uh, he watches

632
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,919
Speaker 1: this cartoon and it's it's actually remarkable for a number

633
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 1: of reasons. It's the best part of the whole special

634
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 1: generally agreed upon as such, not just us. And it

635
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,359
Speaker 1: introduces Boba Fett. It's the first time Boba fat ever

636
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 1: makes an appearance in Star Wars universe. Yeah, it's actually

637
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 1: not a bad And you can't find it in the

638
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 1: the one version I told you to watch. They removed

639
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 1: it for copyright. But he didn't watch a separate version, right,

640
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 1: you can find it on its own. Yeah, And it's Um,

641
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 1: it's very much reminiscent of like the cartoon style of

642
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 1: the day, like a he Man or something even even,

643
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 1: but it's even a little more artsy than that. Yeah.

644
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 1: But it does have a plot that you can follow

645
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 1: that makes sense as a Star Wars thing, and it

646
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 1: introduces Boba Fette, like you said, And um, it's actually

647
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 1: not bad. It's like Luke and R two and C

648
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 1: three p O. Yeah, and there's like they crash on

649
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 1: a planet or something. Yeah, and Han and Jewry you're

650
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 1: in it and it's the first time we see in

651
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,959
Speaker 1: Darth Vader. It's the first time we see Boba Fett

652
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 1: and that he is uh, that he is just doing

653
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 1: whatever he can do for money. Like Luke trusts him

654
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: at first, C three pos like you sure you should

655
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 1: trust him this quick, and he's like, oh, three p

656
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 1: o you and your non trusting ways, And then it

657
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 1: turns out he's selling them out to the dark side.

658
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 1: So it's it's basically Boba Fett is an al worry

659
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 1: for George Lucas himself. So the cartoon comes and goes,

660
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:32,919
Speaker 1: and that was the thing that came at about the

661
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 1: end of the first hour mark, and after that everybody

662
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 1: just turned off their television sets. Yeah, I don't remember.

663
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 1: Did you watch this when it came up? Yeah? I

664
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,839
Speaker 1: remember watching it, but I don't remember much about it,

665
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 1: like if I made it through it all. I mean

666
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:49,839
Speaker 1: it was I was seven and it was on until ten,

667
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 1: so I probably didn't make it through it all. Um,

668
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 1: you're probably disturbed. Who knows, I just remember that. I'll

669
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,240
Speaker 1: have to ask my brother. He might have a memory

670
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 1: of this. Oh, Betty does I'm sure he met everybody

671
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 1: afterwards or something like that, you know, it has a picture. Well,

672
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 1: he was ten at that point. Cynicism had, you know,

673
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 1: become a thing in his life. Probably by then, didn't

674
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 1: that when cynicism kicks into he's Scott holding out the

675
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 1: fourteen fifteen Yeah maybe so so um chuck, the whole

676
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 1: thing finally does in. And actually there's a guy his

677
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 1: name is Nathan Raban, he writes over at the A

678
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:24,919
Speaker 1: V Club. He had a great quote. He basically said

679
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 1: that one of the great redeeming values of this um,

680
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,800
Speaker 1: this special is that it does eventually end. Yeah, you

681
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,359
Speaker 1: know what the first part of the quote is, I'm

682
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 1: not convinced the special wasn't ultimately written and directed by

683
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 1: a sentient bag of cocaine. And like, go read his

684
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 1: his review of the Star Wars Holiday Special, because he

685
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 1: goes on to describe exactly what that must have been,

686
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,360
Speaker 1: like the development meeting where the bag of cocaine is

687
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:51,839
Speaker 1: pacing back and forth talking about what should happen. That's

688
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 1: what it feels like. But it doesn't, and it ends

689
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: even more. It takes this bizarre two hours and wraps

690
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 1: it up in just a nice bizarre bow. Yeah, so

691
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 1: what happens is eventually Han Solo should we say spoiler alert. Eventually,

692
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 1: Han Solo and Chewy make it to the planet. They

693
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 1: park on the far side of the planet because they

694
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 1: know the uh the Imperial forces are there and the

695
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 1: exercise will do chew we good, so they have to

696
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 1: hike over there. They eventually make it back home. Uh

697
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 1: they find a storm the stormtroopers at their house. Um,

698
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 1: their tree hut. Yeah, which by the paintings that set

699
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 1: this up, I don't think we mentioned I don't even

700
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 1: call him Matt paintings that it looks like someone painted

701
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 1: something on the wall and they just like put a

702
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 1: camera in front of it pretty much. Yeah. So they

703
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:44,320
Speaker 1: get back and um, Chewbacca, Han Solo hides around the

704
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 1: corner of Chewbacca steps in front of his son to

705
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:52,720
Speaker 1: protect him. Han Solo jumps out, and the stormtrooper trips

706
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,800
Speaker 1: over a pile of logs and falls over the balcony

707
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 1: and dies in a holiday special. So they wouldn't even

708
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 1: not only could he not shoot for first with Grido,

709
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 1: but they couldn't even have him like wrestle the stormtrooper

710
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 1: and throw him off. He trips over a log and

711
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 1: Han Solo has his hands thrown up Like wasn't me.

712
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 1: It might also been a banana peal, you know. But again, uh,

713
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 1: this is basically produced by vaudevillians starring vaudevillians. Why not

714
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,800
Speaker 1: have the one death take place from basically what it

715
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:28,400
Speaker 1: amounts to somebody slipping on a banana peel. It's a

716
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 1: perfect way to end it. So that's uh that that

717
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 1: guy basically represents the end of the imperial threat for

718
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 1: the rest of Life Day. And um, we we then

719
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:42,839
Speaker 1: see Life Day being celebrated, which is celebrated by lots

720
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 1: of wookies assembling in what looks like a giant Olan

721
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 1: Mills portrait. Um, and all of them are wearing red robes.

722
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 1: And I know I'm up talking, and it's because my

723
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 1: mind is still having trouble like wrapping around this. And

724
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 1: then um, Princess Leia comes out with C three P

725
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 1: O is Mark Hamill there, the whole gangs there, I from, Okay,

726
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 1: the whole gangs there. And then they all gather around

727
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 1: to hear a great quote from Princess Leiah, which we

728
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 1: will read um verbatim. This holiday is yours, but we

729
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 1: all share with you the hope that this day brings

730
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,839
Speaker 1: us closer to freedom into harmony and to peace. No

731
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 1: matter how different we appear, we're all the same in

732
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 1: our struggle against the powers of evil and darkness. I

733
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 1: hope that this day will always be a day of

734
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 1: joy in which we can reconfirm our dedication and our courage,

735
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 1: and more than anything else, our love for one another.

736
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:43,359
Speaker 1: This is the promise of the Tree of life que song, right,

737
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 1: And we should also point out the tree of life

738
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 1: has never been mentioned up to this point. A sudden

739
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,959
Speaker 1: appearance at the end, and when you said que song,

740
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:56,399
Speaker 1: by que song, you mean Princess Leia starts singing. Yeah.

741
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 1: And apparently that was one of the big contingencies on

742
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,919
Speaker 1: Harry Fischer being involved. She's going through the phase where

743
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:04,840
Speaker 1: she was like, I kind of like singing Bruce Valanche

744
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,720
Speaker 1: calls it, or Joni Mitchell period. Yeah, and she somehow

745
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 1: convinced them to let her sing as Princess Leiah and

746
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 1: she does. And again I've said that she looks like

747
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 1: she's on drugs. This is the point where she really

748
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 1: does look like she's on drugs. And it's not just

749
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 1: me Um other writers who've written reviews of this. It's

750
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 1: really obvious that she possibly smoked a decent amount of

751
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:33,359
Speaker 1: pot before she shot this shot this scene. But she sings, Oh, okay,

752
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 1: it's fine. It's just the fact that um, Princess Leiah

753
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 1: is singing. And actually, Bruce Valanche had a really great

754
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,800
Speaker 1: quote too. He says that, um, she very much wanted

755
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 1: to show this side of her talent, and there was

756
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 1: general dismay because this was not what we wanted Princess

757
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 1: Leia to be doing. She did it anyway. So the

758
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 1: whole thing ends with her singing this song about life day,

759
00:45:55,600 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 1: which is set loosely to the John Williams Starr Worst theme. Yeah.

760
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 1: Uh So along the way, the director original director quit,

761
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 1: a new director, Steve Binder was hired to finish the

762
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 1: job and bring it in. Uh. And he did over

763
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 1: the original one million dollar budget, of course always Uh.

764
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 1: He did bring it in and um at this point

765
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 1: George Lucas had uh. He was he was working on

766
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 1: Empire Strikes Back. He didn't know what was going on.

767
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,799
Speaker 1: He wasn't around for the shoot. No, it wasn't until

768
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 1: it aired. I think that he actually saw it. Yes,

769
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:32,800
Speaker 1: and it was a travesty obviously, if you haven't noticed

770
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 1: that by now, Critics hated it. Star Wars fans really

771
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 1: hated it. Everybody hate The people who were in it

772
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 1: hated it. Lucas hated it. Even Harvey Corman secretly hated it.

773
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:48,240
Speaker 1: Even Harvey Kitel hated Actually he loved it. But Lucas

774
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 1: has been asked over the years about it a lot,

775
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 1: and he doesn't talk about it much. But in two

776
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:55,360
Speaker 1: thousand five, and I don't buy this for a second,

777
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 1: he says, um it was an interview he said special

778
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 1: from I really didn't have much to do with us.

779
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 1: You know that part is true. I can't remember what

780
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,359
Speaker 1: network it was even on, but it was a thing

781
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:09,799
Speaker 1: that they did. That's a lie. There's no way he

782
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,840
Speaker 1: doesn't know that was cvt uh. We kind of just

783
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,359
Speaker 1: let them do it. I believe that it was done

784
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 1: by I can't even remember who the group was, but

785
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 1: they were variety TV guys. I'm sure he remembers a

786
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 1: few of them. We let them use the characters and stuff,

787
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 1: and that probably wasn't the smartest thing to do, but

788
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:28,359
Speaker 1: you learn from those experiences. I think they even used

789
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 1: some of the footage from the movie at the end.

790
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,359
Speaker 1: It looks like some space like a highlight reel. Yeah,

791
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 1: the gang, well, and during the UM it looked like

792
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 1: some of the they had some insert shots of like

793
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:46,439
Speaker 1: Imperial cruisers and Thai fighters and stuff that. Remember when

794
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 1: when Chewbacca like leans back and puts his hands behind it, Yeah,

795
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 1: that's in there. It's it's like a it's just a

796
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,799
Speaker 1: highlight reel from the movie saying like I feel like this,

797
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 1: go see the move well, and also that means it

798
00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 1: doesn't match the look of the rest of it at all. Yeah,

799
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 1: that's just sort of inserted. They tried, They definitely tried, UM,

800
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 1: And George Lucas is totally full of it because in

801
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 1: seven he told star Log magazine that the Christmas Special

802
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 1: would be out on video cassette very soon, and in

803
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 1: two thousand seven, two years after that quote, you just

804
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 1: read where he's like, I don't even know what you're

805
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 1: talking about. Basically, UM. He apparently considered releasing the Christmas

806
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 1: Special as a bonus on the the DVDs of the

807
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 1: first three right, but did not didn't And apparently Carrie

808
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 1: Fisher told Lucas that if you want me to do

809
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 1: UM DVD extras commentary commentary, then I want a clean,

810
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 1: original copy of the Holiday Special, So why go ahead?

811
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 1: So I can play at parties what I want people

812
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 1: to leave. It's pretty great. It is so uh and

813
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:53,280
Speaker 1: there is one of those clean copies is floating around

814
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 1: out there, so you can watch this in it in

815
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: its entirety. Some of it, like the cartoon, was removed

816
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 1: due to copy right infringement and that kind of stuff,

817
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 1: but as as the case with the rest of the Internet,

818
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:06,800
Speaker 1: you can just go find it elsewhere and piece it together.

819
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 1: There's also the original ads that aired in Baltimore that

820
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 1: are just fascinating. Ye. Those are always fun gm ads

821
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:18,839
Speaker 1: where one of the guys who's in quality control is

822
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 1: he says, did you watch it? I don't think I

823
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 1: saw that. He goes, um, we really care about these

824
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 1: cars and that's no job man, a GM man, and

825
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 1: he's like, it's serious. They're trying to be hip. Yeah. Um,

826
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 1: it's a pretty good stuff. Here's my final thought on it.

827
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:38,839
Speaker 1: I love it. It It does not taint my Star Wars

828
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 1: experience or my love for the franchise, and I'm glad

829
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 1: it is out there because it it's a it's a

830
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 1: fun little stain that shouldn't be taken too seriously. I

831
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 1: think it adds to it actually because it's campy and awful,

832
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 1: and I don't know somehow that enriches the rest of it.

833
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:01,879
Speaker 1: I'm with you, you like it? Oh yeah, I mean

834
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:03,759
Speaker 1: I watched it twice. I wouldn't watched it a second.

835
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:06,359
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have made it through the first time. Let

836
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:08,919
Speaker 1: me take that back. I'm a pro, so I would

837
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:10,360
Speaker 1: have made it through the first time. I wouldn't have

838
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 1: watched it the second time if I wasn't. There wasn't

839
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 1: something about it, and I figured out. I think the

840
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Speaker 1: She like her responses and everything is just awesome. I

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Speaker 1: noticed it. Uh And then there's a part where all

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Speaker 1: part where where Itchy and Lumpy are have any exchange

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Speaker 1: where Lumpy you can make it out goes yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I noticed that, but it's covered up. But someone was like,

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Speaker 1: sort of know what they're saying, or they were like,

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Speaker 1: I think she just said I love you. Should we

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Speaker 1: have them redo it? And then directors like no, I

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Speaker 1: want to go and Chuck. There's one other thing that

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Speaker 1: I figured out from watching this. It's not readily apparent.

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Speaker 1: The whole thing is made all the more odd, and

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Speaker 1: that there's situation after situation after situation where we as

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Speaker 1: it what it might have been less bizarre, but the

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Speaker 1: So it's this whole additional element that it is weird.

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Speaker 1: I never thought about that. There's just weird moments of

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Speaker 1: thing and telling jokes. Yeah, okay, I agree with you, Chuck,

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Speaker 1: of the special, So try and go grab that if

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Speaker 1: I think Corbett listens to us. So, hey, Corbett, you

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Speaker 1: got anything else? No, no, I think we did this.

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Speaker 1: There's some good stuff. Go read the Vanity Fair article

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Speaker 1: George Lucas never said that he would smash this thing

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Speaker 1: just finished listening to the Voytage Manuscript podcast. Found it's

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Speaker 1: super interesting, especially the theories on its definition or origin.

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