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Speaker 1: This is one of those days. I think this.

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Speaker 2: Should push people over the edge the incompetence and neglect

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Speaker 2: the stupidity of the people at DWP. And that has

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Speaker 2: been a corrupt, disgusting organization for as long as I've

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Speaker 2: lived here. I can't tell you how much time we

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Speaker 2: have spent over the years on DWP scandals, and now

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Speaker 2: to find out that they did not supply Pacific Palisades

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Speaker 2: with virtually any water. The reservoir, which was built in

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Speaker 2: nineteen sixty four for fire purposes. You have to understand this.

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Speaker 2: This reservoir was meant to be there to fight fires.

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Speaker 2: One hundred and seventeen million gallons was empty, as you know,

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Speaker 2: and then the waterflow into the Palisades was weak to

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Speaker 2: non existent. All fire hydrants didn't work, they'd all run

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Speaker 2: dry very quickly. And then of course you know the

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Speaker 2: firefighters weren't sent up in time or in great enough numbers.

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Speaker 2: But I want to focus here just on the DWP,

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Speaker 2: because now there's going to be literally thousands of if

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Speaker 2: not thousands of lawsuits, thousands of plaintiffs, and so the

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Speaker 2: LEDWP is now taking more of your ratepayer money, money

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Speaker 2: that they did not spend on building water mains that

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Speaker 2: carried enough water into the town, but they did not

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Speaker 2: spend on fixing and filling the reservoir. But they're going

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Speaker 2: to spend it on a bunch of lawyers, the firm

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Speaker 2: of Munger, Tolas and Olsen, to do an investigation, and

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Speaker 2: they're going to try to put up a defense after

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Speaker 2: destroying thousands of homes. We are going to talk now

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Speaker 2: with an attorney named Said Kashani, who we've had on

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Speaker 2: the show before. He is the gentleman, the resident of

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Speaker 2: the Palisades. He was burned out and he took it

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Speaker 2: to the DWP in person and right to Jennie Canonias,

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Speaker 2: demanding to know why they spend so much time on

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Speaker 2: or even talking about the reservoir. So let's get said

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Speaker 2: Kashani on welcome said, it's good to have you back.

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Speaker 3: Hello, Hello, John, It's good to be back. And you

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Speaker 3: are really peged that. It's amazing that the DWP could

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Speaker 3: have spent one hundred thousand dollars to fix this reservoir

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Speaker 3: a year ago, and now they're authorizing ten million dollars

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Speaker 1: This is stunning.

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Speaker 2: Some of the lawyers are going to be charging almost

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Speaker 2: two thousand dollars an hour. The associates are going to

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Speaker 2: get up to eleven hundred dollars an hour. And the

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Speaker 2: city attorney who hired these characters, Heidi Feldstein Soto, claims,

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Speaker 2: this is a discount.

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Speaker 3: Rate that's unbelievable. A very very good lawyer in town

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Speaker 3: that seems very high. But that's a very very good lawyer.

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Speaker 3: There's no cause for any firm to be charging the

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Speaker 2: Are they going to put up a defense and what's

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Speaker 2: the defense going to be for? Not filling the reservoir.

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Speaker 2: Just we'll focus on that issue. I know there's many others,

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Speaker 2: but just that's the one that I find completely inexplicable, indefensible.

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Speaker 2: What's this law firm going to say about it for

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Speaker 3: Well, we're already hearing I've already heard that the law

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Speaker 3: commission meetings. The defense are trying to put together here,

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Speaker 3: which is basically a whitewash, or call it gas lighting. Whatever.

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Speaker 3: Their defense is going to be that, oh, well, it

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Speaker 3: wouldn't have made any difference even if we had the

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Speaker 3: reservoir pull of your house would still have burned down. Well,

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Speaker 3: the first question is if that's the case, why did

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Speaker 1: Exactly?

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Speaker 3: That doesn't make any sense. But so that would I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know how you sell to the people

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Speaker 3: Well, it's not just it's not just a total amount

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Speaker 3: But of course they had to drained and empty and

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Speaker 3: now you know they're paying the price and tried to

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Speaker 2: And it looks like since they built the thing in

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Speaker 1: The reason they built the reservoir was the.

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Speaker 2: Nineteen sixty one Bell Air Fire, which was just a

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Speaker 3: Exactly after that fire, the city realized that the systems

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Speaker 3: but other reservoirs in town as well for this specific

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Speaker 3: type of fire. So here's another whitewashing here. The I

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Speaker 3: think the director of the DWT, Mis Crononas, has said, well,

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Speaker 3: we're not we're an urban water system. We're not we

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Speaker 3: can't fight wildfires. That's not correct. This system was set

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Speaker 3: up to fight wildfires, not just in house fires or whatever.

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Speaker 3: But it doesn't work if you drained the reservoir.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and if you have an urban environment, but there

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Speaker 2: there are wildfire possibilities within the borders of your urban environment,

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Speaker 2: you have to have a system to fight it.

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Speaker 1: That that's what the like expects.

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Speaker 2: I think the public was shocked that there wasn't an

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Speaker 3: Well, it would have. It's not just that the DWP

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Speaker 3: drained the reservoir. They didn't tell anyone the reservoir was empty.

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Speaker 3: So residents were looking up at that reservoir hoping and

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Speaker 3: You have no water in the reservoir. It's empty. I

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Speaker 3: don't think the DWP even told the fire department the

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Speaker 2: That's what I was wondering. Do you think Kristin Crowley

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Speaker 3: They're not acting like they know. And let me tell

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Speaker 3: you another outrage on top of other outrages. DWP has

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Speaker 3: claimed that the delay in fixing the reservoir, which was

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Speaker 3: go through some competitive bidding. Well, they hired these lawyers

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Speaker 3: court unquote the emergency basis. There was no public tender,

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Speaker 3: They privately interviewed three law firms and picked one, probably

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Speaker 3: the one I know longer holds an Olsen. They're a

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Speaker 3: fine firm, but they're very politically connected as well, So

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Speaker 1: Do you know what you just brought up is a

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Speaker 1: great point.

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Speaker 2: I I mean it is so frustrating to have to

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Speaker 2: I know you went through this terrible tragedy, right, you

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Speaker 2: lost your whole house. But I know some friends who've

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Speaker 2: gone through it, and this was utterly, if not preventable,

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Speaker 2: it was treatable in the early stages. Had they been

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Speaker 2: we've got extreme fire danger here. What do we need

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Speaker 2: just absolutely zero, And that that's what's just I can't imagine.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you must wake up every day, just how

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Speaker 3: Well, we're just trying to pick up the pieces literally,

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Speaker 3: They lost their school as well. In fact, all most

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Speaker 3: have to think that here's the same group of children

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Speaker 3: Now the same group. They had all their schools burned out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. I mean they'r no, don't go ahead.

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Speaker 3: So they're you know, they're having the same problem you

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Speaker 3: have to. You have to think about them. That's that's

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Speaker 3: the biggest problem. And what do you tell them. You know,

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Speaker 3: And let me point out something else too that again,

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Speaker 3: this is gaslighting going on, whitewashed by the LAEDWP. They're

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Speaker 3: That is not the case. I talked to firemen, I've

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Speaker 3: not spread through huge sheets of plane. There were embers

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Speaker 3: So a little bit of water could have prevented that.

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Speaker 3: This is not the case where we had some huge

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Speaker 2: It's so galling. There's such liars. Listen, thank you for

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Speaker 2: coming on against said Kashani. We'll talk with you again,

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Speaker 2: Thank you, no problem, thank you again. All right, more

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Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from kf I

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Speaker 2: We just had said Kashani on an attorney who took

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Speaker 2: and we played his h his presentation twice, and we've

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Speaker 2: had him on twice because uh, he's very he's an

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Speaker 2: the d WP. And we're in the phase now where,

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Speaker 2: uh as as this really settles. I was talking about

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Speaker 2: just being aware of so many people involved in the fire.

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Speaker 2: You know, you go through a phase of shock and

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Speaker 2: then depression and sadness, and then this this anger starts

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Speaker 2: to build, like somebody's got to pay for this, and

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Speaker 2: I don't mean financially. Somebody has got to be fired.

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Speaker 2: This whole apple cart has to be upended. Bass Kristin Crowley,

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Speaker 2: the fire chief, deeniez the head of the d WP.

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Speaker 1: And by the.

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Speaker 2: They have used it for water, but obviously they don't

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Speaker 2: The center of it should be protection with police and fire.

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Speaker 2: That should be the center, not drug addicts and mental

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Speaker 1: That's why.

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Speaker 2: It's the corruption and greed of everybody on the city

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Speaker 1: They don't.

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Speaker 2: What they care about is getting the tax money, guilting you, emotionally,

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Speaker 2: filling up the reservoir wouldn't have made a difference. Yes,

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Speaker 2: it would have would have made a huge difference. Oh well,

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Speaker 2: you know we had We had to do it because

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Speaker 2: out fires. That was a fire reservoir. That was two

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Speaker 2: this all comes from Bass, Crowley and Canonia's and they

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Speaker 2: we come back, something in that in all crack Debra

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Speaker 2: what JP Morgan, the CEO Jamie Diamond, He was recorded

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Speaker 2: two minute rant against people who show up for work.

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Speaker 2: This is great, You know everybody should feel this way

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Speaker 2: talking about it.

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Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM

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Speaker 4: six forty one.

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Speaker 2: More thing about this law firm Monger, Tolls and Olson

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Speaker 2: that's going to get ten million dollars to try to

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Speaker 2: defend the DWP for all the stupid cruel things they

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Speaker 2: What they other companies they represent has never reminded me

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Speaker 2: of this. When listening to your newscast, PG and E

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Speaker 2: the campfire that destroyed Paradise, eighty four people died. Pg

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Speaker 2: and E pled guilty to eighty four counts of involuntary manslaughter,

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Speaker 1: In Maui.

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Speaker 2: They represented Hawaiian Electric Industries and Hawaiian Electric companies. Imagine

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Speaker 2: what you do for a living is defend companies and

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Speaker 1: And then you go in and you charge.

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Speaker 2: You go charge the people whose homes were destroyed two

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Speaker 2: That's what the good folks at Munger Tolls and Olsen do.

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Speaker 2: You ought to be very proud of yourselves. That's what

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Speaker 2: you do with your life. Cost the ratepayers two thousand

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Speaker 1: Well, not the law.

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Speaker 2: Firm, but after the client that you're representing did that,

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Speaker 2: and that's what DWP did. DWP ended up killing people

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Speaker 2: include all the mayors of the past twenty five years,

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Speaker 2: you include all the city council members. Everybody is responsible.

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Speaker 2: None of them will feel it because most of them

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Speaker 2: my new hero, Jamie Diamond may have heard his name.

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Speaker 2: He is one of the biggest names in finance. He's

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Speaker 2: the CEO of JP Morgan and he had a meeting

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Speaker 2: He's fed up with people working at home. He's fed

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Speaker 2: up with zoom meetings. He's sorry he ever let any

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Speaker 5: Lot of you on the zoom and you were doing

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Speaker 5: He showed over. He told the other person that you're

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Speaker 5: You're going to meeting with me. You got my attention,

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Speaker 5: In fact, my guess is most of you live in

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Speaker 5: Every area should be looking to be ten percent more efficient.

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Speaker 5: I guarantee you if I wanted to. I could run

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Speaker 5: I could do it in my sleep. And the notion

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Speaker 5: And I feel like firing fourteen chairman of committees. I

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Speaker 5: don't have to work at JP Morgan. So the people

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Speaker 1: Does, same semi diseased bleep. Wow.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's only part of it too. I'm want to

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Speaker 6: We're here, it's Friday. We never got no go to

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Speaker 2: at your mail, sending texts to each other about what

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Speaker 2: an a hole the other person is not paying attention,

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Speaker 2: not reading your stuff, and others. People were acting like

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Speaker 2: they were in seventh grade. Right, that's exactly what goes

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Speaker 2: on in seventh grade when you're bored. You start passing

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Speaker 2: notes to each other and making fun of everybody else

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Speaker 2: in the room. And you know, I've realized that people

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Speaker 2: stop maturing a lot of them at about seventh eighth grade,

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Speaker 2: and that as you go on in life, people generally

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Speaker 2: revert back to that age. And having Zoom and not

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Speaker 2: having to leave the house facilitates more of that, because

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Speaker 2: now you're back in a boring classroom setting again instead

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Speaker 2: of being engaged and working and being an adult and

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Speaker 2: developing relationships. And you know, he just told me, because

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Speaker 2: you know what, the employees started brought up a petition

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Speaker 2: and they were passing this petition around demanding that they'd

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Speaker 2: be allowed to work in the office at least a

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Speaker 2: few days a week.

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Speaker 1: And he said, that's your petition, petition. You know what,

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Speaker 1: you're getting a paycheck. You don't like the paycheck. Just

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Speaker 1: get out.

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Speaker 6: Well, that's what he said. He said, you guys have feet.

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Speaker 1: You know, go walk out.

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Speaker 6: I won't be mad at you can.

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Speaker 2: I feel like, I don't know, it's been like twenty

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Speaker 2: years since I heard anybody talk like this. I mean,

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Speaker 2: this is the way the world always ran. This was unquestioned,

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Speaker 2: the way it was you. That was your expectation when

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Speaker 2: you went to work. You would have a guy like

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Speaker 2: this laying out these kind of rules and he's right

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Speaker 2: and you're wrong, and you can't sit in your under

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Speaker 2: roll all day or go riding around your bicycle at

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Speaker 2: one in the afternoon.

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Speaker 6: Because COVID changed everything and a lot of bosses didn't

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Speaker 6: show up. So if the bosses aren't showing up right,

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Speaker 6: then the employees are are there saying, well, wait, why

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Speaker 6: are we showing up?

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Speaker 1: Some of us always showed up.

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Speaker 2: I don't care how many people sign that efing petition.

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Speaker 2: He said, that's great, boy, But you know, and this

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Speaker 2: is the same attitude that they have in Washington, DC

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Speaker 2: right now with all the you know, I saw a

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Speaker 2: new statistic seventy four no, what is it?

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Speaker 1: What is it?

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Speaker 2: Seventy five thousand people have taken the buy out because

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Speaker 2: ninety four percent of the people in Washington have not

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Speaker 2: been showing up for work.

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Speaker 1: Ninety four percent. That gets me mad. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And they're out riding their bike in their underwear,

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Speaker 2: their underwear, in their underwear.

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Speaker 6: Picture that I no, no, I really don't want to.

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Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM

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Speaker 4: six forty.

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Speaker 2: Tom Homan is going to war as the borders are,

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Speaker 2: and he's going to war with New York politicians because

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Speaker 2: they're not cooperating. And Eric Adams, the New York City mayor,

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Speaker 2: is half cooperating, the governor, Kathy Hocheld not co operating.

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Speaker 2: Holman would like Hokeel removed his governor. We're gonna play

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Speaker 2: you some clips they were on Fox and Friends, Adams

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Speaker 2: and Holman, and that's quite entertaining. Two rounds of the

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Speaker 2: Moistline next hour as well. I the most fascinating video,

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Speaker 2: and I know everybody's been talking about this and maybe

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Speaker 2: you've seen it, is that that whale that at the

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Speaker 2: Kayaker Crazy.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'll get to that in a minute.

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Speaker 2: But there was another event that happened between the tourists

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Speaker 2: and some ocean wildlife and there's a lesson here. Never

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Speaker 2: run up to a shark to take its picture. You

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Speaker 2: heard this story? No, uh, happened in the Caribbean. Oh

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Speaker 2: happened at Turks and Caicos. A Canadian woman fifty five

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Speaker 2: years old. She was waiting in the shallow waters and

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Speaker 2: she had her phone out and she saw a shark.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if she realized it was a shark,

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Speaker 2: but she wanted to get up close to it and

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Speaker 2: take a picture, and so she did.

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Speaker 1: But I maybe take a selfie with the shark. I

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Speaker 1: don't know.

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Speaker 2: Shark bit both her hands off. Yeah, Turks and Caicos.

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Speaker 2: Turks and Caicos. Every place you go, something bad happened.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I saw some photos of this, not in the hands,

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Speaker 2: but of her line on the ground and the other tourists.

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Speaker 2: The crowd gathered around her. She made it back to

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Speaker 2: the beach and they wrapped cloths onto her arms to

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Speaker 2: try to stop the bleeding. She had one hand amputated

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Speaker 2: at the wrist and the other halfway up her forearm,

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Speaker 2: and she was also bitten in the thigh. Her husband

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Speaker 2: ran up and tried to fight off the shark because

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Speaker 2: they kept circling the woman and wanted to go after

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Speaker 2: her again. Finished the lady off, because that's you know,

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Speaker 2: it's true about blood and the water, right goes into

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Speaker 2: a frenzy.

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Speaker 1: Don't do that. Do Canadians not learn about sharks in school? Well, Dan,

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Speaker 1: don't have many sharks up in Canada. Well I don't.

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Speaker 6: I didn't see any sharks when I was in Turks

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Speaker 6: and Caicos. So maybe it was you know, you your

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Speaker 6: your first instinct is you want to.

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Speaker 1: Take a shark shark.

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Speaker 6: I mean what I'm saying is if you're in the

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Speaker 6: water and you see something like that, you want to

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Speaker 6: take a picture so you can show off and show people.

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Speaker 6: I wouldn't want to be that close where the shark's

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Speaker 6: going to bite my hands off.

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Speaker 2: Uh, shark bites off Turks and Caicos are very rare,

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Speaker 2: That's what I thought. Only one unprovoked attack reported last year,

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Speaker 2: non fatal. In twenty twenty three, a woman had her

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Speaker 2: foot bitten off by a shark while snorkeling.

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Speaker 1: And uh, yeah, I'm.

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Speaker 6: Not going in the water ever again anywhere now, you.

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Speaker 1: Know around Did you go in the water, turk.

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Speaker 6: Car, Oh my god, I lived in the water. The

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Speaker 6: water was I mean seriously, John, amazing.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well you probably didn't know this, but the water

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Speaker 2: has gray reef sharks, nurse sharks, tiger sharks, bull sharks,

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Speaker 2: and hammerhead sharks.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I know that there has some that don't bother people.

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Speaker 1: And you know your petite one bite.

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Speaker 2: All I'm gonna say is this travel connection to Debra

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Speaker 2: is quite the teas for the moistline. All right, excellent,

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Speaker 2: And then quickly the humpback whale swallowing the kayaker. I

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Speaker 2: saw the video this morning. His dad took video from

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Speaker 2: another kayak. And the thing is, while his son got

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Speaker 2: swallowed and they got sped up by the whale, dad

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Speaker 2: kept the video.

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Speaker 6: Yeho, Now how come that dad wasn't trying to beat

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Speaker 6: off the whale, beat up the whale, let my son go.

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Speaker 1: He cared about going viral. That's right. I'm gonna put

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Speaker 1: this on TikTok. You imagine, I mean, millions of hits

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna get.

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Speaker 2: And I saw, I saw the guy is a young

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Speaker 2: guy who got swallowed. And I guess the whale swallowed

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Speaker 2: him because you know, when a whale opens its mouth,

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Speaker 2: just a lot of water comes rushing in, right, And

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Speaker 2: so the kayaker was swept up in that wave and

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Speaker 2: then you open the mouth again and the kayaker flies out.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know if it was an intentional attack.

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Speaker 6: But that guy is one lucky dude.

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Speaker 2: His name is Adrian, and I like his His dad's

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Speaker 2: name is Dell. I thought Adrian Simancas is his dad's Dell.

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Speaker 2: And Dell can be heard in the video saying.

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Speaker 1: Stay calm, Stay calm. It's like Dad, I'm inside a whale.

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Speaker 2: I mean, stay calm if you don't lose it when

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Speaker 2: you've been swallowed by a whale. And Adrian says, I

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Speaker 2: thought I was dead. I thought it had eaten me,

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Speaker 2: that had swallowed me up.

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Speaker 1: Uh and uh then the whale like spin him out.

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Speaker 1: I guess incredible. I know. I just kept watching that

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Speaker 1: over and over again.

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Speaker 6: I know you'd like that.

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Speaker 2: I know that's that's That's what I did this morning

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Speaker 2: when we come back. What was I gonna do? What

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Speaker 2: did I say I was going to do?

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Speaker 1: I don't remember.

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Speaker 2: Holman, that's right, Holman on Fox and Friends with Eric Adams.

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Speaker 2: Eric Adams is screwed because Trump has ordered the Department

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Speaker 2: of Justice to drop charges against Eric Adams, corruption charges

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Speaker 2: and now Adams has to do anything that Trump and

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Speaker 2: Holman says, or those charges are going to come back. Probably,

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Speaker 2: So he's got he's got Eric Adams dangling like he

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Speaker 2: has Newsome dangling. That's coming up next, Debra Mark Live

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Speaker 2: in the KFI twenty four hour Newsroom. Hey, you've been

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Speaker 2: listening to The John Cobalt Show podcast. You can always

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Speaker 2: hear the show live on KFI Am six forty from

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Speaker 2: one to four pm every Monday through Friday, and of course,

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