1 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: Can Eating America. Welcome to the Monday edition of Justin 2 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: Who's No Noise. I'm your host, John Solomon, reporting to 3 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: you as always from Washington, DC and the Wirefishcoffee dot 4 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: Com studios. You know this Wirefish Coffee is the official 5 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 1: coffee of Justin News. It's my family's favorite coffee, my 6 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 1: personal favorite coffee. You can go there right now wired 7 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: the number two Fishcoffee dot Com or point your camera 8 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: to that QR code and you'll get a fantastic ten 9 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: percent discount on all of their smooth lens as well 10 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 1: as their mugs, including the Justin Newe mugs. 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But that doesn't mean we're not 21 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 1: going to stop on the front lines of doing investigative reporting. 22 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 1: We got another very important story that my colleague Stephen 23 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 1: Richards and I broke this morning. New emails we got 24 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: from Joe Biden's fake email account, the student an email account, 25 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 1: show that while he and President Obama we're talking tough 26 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 1: against Russia in twenty fourteen, after Russia invaded Ukraine the 27 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: first time, behind the scenes it was a little bit 28 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: different story. 29 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 2: That's right. 30 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: Joe Biden secretly worked with Germany to open a backdoor 31 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: so that the Russians could keep selling and moving gas 32 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: into Ukraine even after they invited that country. And we're 33 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: subject to all sorts of sanctions. Now, why is this 34 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: so important and why is it coming out now? Well, 35 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: the answer why is coming out now? For the last 36 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: ten years, we didn't know that these email exchanges were 37 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: on Joe Biden student an email account. We're going to 38 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: show you a couple of documents. If the studio will 39 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: pick this up for me. Let's show the unredacted version 40 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:09,799 Speaker 1: we got in our law a redacted version we got. 41 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 2: In a lawsuit. Right, that's the real law. 42 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: That's the real one we got that from James Comer 43 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: and the House Oversight Committee. It explains in the second 44 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: I'm going to read it to you, but let's show 45 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: the other version that we first got from the National 46 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: Archives when we sued a complete plank, everything was taken 47 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 1: out of it, said they couldn't share it with us. 48 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: Ten years later, Well, we now know why, because it 49 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: was embarrassing to Joe Biden and the Obama Biden administration. 50 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:34,359 Speaker 1: Why do I say that, because it turns out that 51 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: when Joe Biden was negotiating this deal secretly on his 52 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 1: private email account, his son's company, Barisma. You know them, 53 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: We've been talking about them a lot for the last 54 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 1: five years. Well, they just wanted this very thing to happen. 55 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 1: They wanted Russian oil to come back into Ukraine because 56 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: they Barisma didn't have enough gas to sell in Ukraine 57 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 1: and they would have been blamed for a major spike 58 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: in gas prices across Ukraine. 59 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 2: They didn't want to. 60 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: Shame, so a hunter Biden and his partners were talking 61 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:03,639 Speaker 1: about getting the Russia oil flowing, and guess what happened. 62 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 2: It did with the help of Joe Biden. 63 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: I'm going to read you the important passages is an 64 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 1: email from Joe Biden's deputy national security advisor to the 65 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: Vice President on his private email account. This is government 66 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 1: business being done in private email. Ukraine gas deal was 67 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: just signed. The Germans earlier indicated that Tony, that your 68 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: call had come at a critical moment, almost with an 69 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: assist here internally from your team, was critical. 70 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 2: To the end game. 71 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 1: What they're talking about is the announcement that Germany would 72 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: later make and take blame for you. Germany got the 73 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: blame for this, that Russia was going to move the 74 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: gas into Ukraine. He turns out Joe Biden had a 75 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: lot more to do about it. That's a familiar story, man, 76 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: and we've heard a lot about it, Joe Biden saying 77 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: one thing and doing another. 78 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 3: Indeed, and you might have a cast, but I had 79 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 3: ringside seats and you all should see the other guy. 80 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 4: Just want to make sure, make sure we clarify it. 81 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 2: A hole of my loss. That's the real truth of 82 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 2: it is. 83 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 3: I have extra accessories, black smudges on my outfit because 84 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 3: I fought the subway this morning and didn't work out 85 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 3: very well. 86 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 4: The doors closed on me and I got Yeah, I 87 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 4: didn't think it was going to let me go. I 88 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 4: had visions of me to say yeah. 89 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 3: And I don't think anybody in the city would have 90 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 3: helped me. I don't know if it would have grabbed 91 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 3: me and pulled the look. 92 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 4: I made it here alive and so to you. So 93 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 4: I guess praise God for that. 94 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 3: All right, I'm going to start at the White House 95 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 3: in my regular beat because earlier today President Trump met 96 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 3: with l Salvador and President Naive Bukeley, and CNN asked 97 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 3: Bukeley to weigh in on the Supreme Court ruling that 98 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 3: says the Trump administration needs to bring the deported Maryland 99 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 3: migrant back to this country. Now, this is what he said, 100 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:33,039 Speaker 3: and it is making headlines around the world. 101 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 4: Do you plan to return him? 102 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 5: Well, post suggested that I was smuggle the terroristed today 103 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 5: United States? 104 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 2: Right, how can I return him to day? It's just 105 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 2: like I smuggle him into the United States or whether 106 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 2: it was, of course I'm not going to do it. 107 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 1: Is like let meet The question was from Busters, how 108 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 1: could I smuggle the terro. 109 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 2: Raty today United States? 110 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 6: I don't have the power to return to him to 111 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 6: the United States. 112 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 3: I made it to smuggling a tear back into this country. Now, 113 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 3: it's going to be interesting to see where all of 114 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 3: this goes, because the Supreme Court did rule that the 115 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 3: Trump administration must facilitate facilitate the return of this man, 116 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 3: but Bukaeley says that he simply can't do that. An 117 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,559 Speaker 3: Attorney General, Pam Bondi, also spoke about the issue, saying 118 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 3: the migrant was in the country illegally. 119 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 4: Take a listen, he was illegally in our country. 120 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 7: He had been illegally in our country and in twenty nineteen, 121 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:29,119 Speaker 7: two courts, an immigration court and an appellate immigration court 122 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 7: ruled he was a member of MS thirteen and he 123 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 7: was illegally in our country right now. It was a paperwork, 124 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 7: it was additional paperwork. 125 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 4: It needed to be done. 126 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 7: That's up to El Salvador if they want to return him. 127 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 2: That's not to us. 128 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 3: We're going to have more on this issue a little 129 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 3: later in the show. But John, I can't wait to 130 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 3: talk to our first guest about this issue you talked about. 131 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I love it. 132 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 1: Also, just a quick note on El Salvada this morning. 133 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: It's forty years ago, four decades ago, that Ronald Reagan 134 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: fought to keep El Salvador on the Commonism's hands. And 135 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: today Al Salvador is helping Donald Trump repair the damage 136 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 1: of the Biden open borders. What a remarkable symmetry and 137 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 1: long running relationship between those two countries. Pretty remarkable, all right. 138 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: Earlier today we had a chance to talk to the 139 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: director of Research at the Government Accoontoby Accountability Institute, better 140 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 1: known as our good friend and the great investigative reporter 141 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: Seamus Bruner, about the scoop we talked about. Have a listen, 142 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: all right, folks joining us right now. The director of 143 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: research at the Government Acconnoby Institute and the best settling 144 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:30,919 Speaker 1: author alongside of me on multiple books, on one of 145 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 1: them mind Fallout. He helped call write that with me. 146 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: But he's also got that great book Controller Guards. He's 147 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: a great friend of the show, one of the greatest 148 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:42,039 Speaker 1: investigative journalists I've ever worked with. Our friend, Seamus Bruner, Seamous, welcome. 149 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 8: Back, John Amanda, it is great to see you. And 150 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 8: on the point about Fallout, it sales must still be going. 151 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 8: I bought personally the last hard copy yesterday. I ran 152 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 8: out of my own supply and now it's times that's gone. 153 00:06:58,320 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 6: That's tragic. 154 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 1: We're gonna have to do something about I'm feeling like 155 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: it might be time to do Fallout too, because it's 156 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 1: still relevant today. 157 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 2: I mean, think about what we're learning in these new documents. Today. 158 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: Joe Biden is out there publicly saying we must punish 159 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: Russia for the invasion of Ukraine, his sons already cashing 160 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: in on the scenario by going to work for Bresma. 161 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: And then we find out Joe Biden secretly is creating 162 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: a backdoor so that Russia can send its gas into 163 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: Ukraine because Brisma can't meet the demand, and his word, 164 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: they're going to. 165 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 2: Get blamed for inflation. 166 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: It seems like there's a lot of secrets still coming 167 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: out from Fallout ten years later. 168 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, you're exactly right. 169 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 8: These documents that you posted on just the News, these 170 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 8: are amazing. It shows that Joe Biden we always wondered, 171 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 8: I mean, what was Hunter getting paid for by Bisma? 172 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 8: Was it just because of that quid pro quote towards 173 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 8: the end with that you're not getting the billion dollars 174 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 8: unless you fire the prosecutor. Was it just to get 175 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 8: Latchevsky out of legal hot water? And know there's shows 176 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 8: that it was actually to learn a lot of intelligence 177 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 8: about what was going on in people like Joe Biden's minds. 178 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 8: He's saying one thing publicly, and then behind the scenes 179 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 8: he's talking about things that might help Russia. So these 180 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 8: are really shocking documents, and it's not the only example, 181 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 8: but it is certainly the most egregious example of the 182 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 8: Democrats cashing in on the Russia Ukraine scenario. 183 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 4: Up, speaking of Democrats cashing in. 184 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 3: A few weeks ago, everybody had a lot of bad 185 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 3: things to say about Signal, but I think Joe Biden's 186 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 3: probably wishing he had used Signal at about this time 187 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 3: because they called that a national security crisis. 188 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 4: Wouldn't this be a national security issue too? 189 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean it's really odd that Joe Biden had 190 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 8: these pseudonyms and he was sending government discussion type stuff 191 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 8: on these pseudonyms. He had the secret cell phone and 192 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:49,319 Speaker 8: was talking offline in ways that could easily be hacked 193 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 8: bypassing the national security protocols. So yeah, you're exactly right, Amanda, 194 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 8: And of course Hillary famously had the secret server. So 195 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 8: it looks like these guys really do like to just 196 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 8: talk in unsecure ways about very important matters. 197 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty remarkable. 198 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 1: One of the great things that were able to do 199 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: together in fall Out was to track the eight year 200 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: history of the Obama Biden administration on Russia, because they 201 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: came in saying we're not going to be as hard 202 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: line on Russia, because I think we can win their 203 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: hearts by bestowing them a lot of appeasement in gifts, 204 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: and so they give away uranium and other things to them, 205 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: and then of course they get crossways and Russia takes 206 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 1: advantage of them and invades Ukraine. How much do you 207 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: think Americans still don't know about this time? 208 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 2: It seems like we're. 209 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: Still blind to a lot of very important pieces of 210 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: information when it comes to what the Obama administration, particularly 211 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: Joe Biden is family, we're doing on the Russian front. 212 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I think there's a whole lot we 213 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 6: don't know. 214 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 8: I mean, we've got the broad outlines, We've got maybe 215 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 8: fifty percent of the puzzle made, but there's still a 216 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 8: lot of pieces that need fitting in. And so again 217 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:02,439 Speaker 8: I Louge for this story that you and Steven did today. 218 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:05,439 Speaker 8: It's a great story, and look forward to hearing more. 219 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 8: These documents need to come out. Donald Trump needs to 220 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 8: keep declassifying and releasing this stuff. 221 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:12,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, keep them coming, that's right. 222 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 4: Seamous. 223 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 3: People love to talk about how Barack Obama didn't have 224 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:18,199 Speaker 3: a single scandal during this administration. I know this is 225 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 3: Joe Biden as vice president, and I suppose there's a 226 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 3: possibility that Barack Obama as president didn't know. But considering 227 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 3: that there was a relationship being brokeered by even a 228 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 3: third country, Germany, what don't you think that Obama would 229 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 3: have had to have been looped in on all of 230 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 3: this and possibly known about the communications too. 231 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 6: Yeah. Absolutely, they say scandal free. It was no. 232 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 8: The Obama presidency was a scandal spree. And it wasn't 233 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 8: just Joe, it was Barack Obama. And I think one 234 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 8: of the things that really, you know, is waiting to 235 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:49,319 Speaker 8: come out. 236 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 6: I've got a lot of research on it, haven't. 237 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 8: Published it yet, is about the Obama book deal. The 238 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 8: Obama book deal sixty million dollars from a German publisher. 239 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 6: What was that all about? 240 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 8: And we've got some evidence and some theories will release soon. 241 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 2: That's huge. That is huge, all right. 242 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: Another thing we've gotten a hold of in the last 243 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 1: few days, also Russia related. Are some of the newly 244 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: declassified documents from the Russia Collusion i e. Crossfire Hurricane investigation. 245 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: One of the big head eyes we had this weekend. 246 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: It was been talking about the NSA director, by the way, 247 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: someone that Donald Trump inherited from Barack Obama, told the 248 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 1: FBI that the Washington Post story, a Pulitzer Prize winning 249 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: story that Donald Trump had pressured him to change this 250 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 1: story on Russia collusion in Russia involvement of the twenty 251 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 1: sixteen election, was simply, in his words, wrong, not true, inaccurate. 252 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 2: He went through debunking it line by line, and. 253 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 1: Then also the FBI document reveals there was a contemporaneous 254 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: record of this discussion that showed that nothing about the 255 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:59,079 Speaker 1: Washington Post claim to happen actually happened. In the discussion, 256 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:02,679 Speaker 1: is it time for the Washington Post to renounce its 257 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: Spulitzer prize to correct its puln surprize story? 258 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 2: What do you think would come on this? 259 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 8: I mean totally should should give it back. And it's 260 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 8: just such a shame. What's happened to the Pulitzer Committee. 261 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 8: It used to mean something to win a Pulitzer, and 262 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:22,839 Speaker 8: ever since twenty sixteen, I've watched year after year they 263 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,839 Speaker 8: give Pulitzers to total disinformation. I remember the New York 264 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 8: Times also got a Pulitzer for its Russia reporting, which 265 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:32,319 Speaker 8: was totally wrong. And so you know you're gonna hate 266 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 8: that I say this, John, but you and Peter Schweitzer 267 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 8: should have run won Pulitzers for the reporting you did 268 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 8: on Hillary Clinton in the Russia uranium and everything that 269 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 8: you exposed first. 270 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:44,199 Speaker 6: On the Spygate saga. 271 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 8: It was incredible reporting and people are finally starting to 272 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 8: realize John Solomon was. 273 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:52,199 Speaker 4: Right absolutely on many fronts. 274 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:55,959 Speaker 3: Seamus, I know that the government accountability, I mean it's 275 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:58,959 Speaker 3: in the name of your Institute of Transparency and Disclosure, 276 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 3: is at the heart of every thing that you stand 277 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:04,319 Speaker 3: for and seek. When it comes to what Trump can 278 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 3: declassify this time around, it's a second term. He doesn't 279 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 3: have to worry about making anybody mad so that he 280 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 3: has to face reelection. 281 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 4: As a journalist or as an investigator yourself, what do 282 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 4: you want to see de classify? What's what's the top 283 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 4: of the top for you? 284 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:22,599 Speaker 8: Well, I was really excited when John sent me this 285 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 8: story that he broke about the robin ware and all 286 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 8: of this pseudonymous Biden email messages. Those are going to 287 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 8: be great everything relating to the Biden Ukraine. It'll be 288 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 8: great to see what was going on with the Biden 289 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 8: China stuff. And you know, I hate to dredge up 290 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 8: ancient history, but and again, this Russia Gate stuff, Hillary Clinton, 291 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 8: you know, she just needs to be fully exposed. I mean, John, 292 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 8: and we put out so much on the Russia uranium 293 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 8: one story that really was a scandal for the pay 294 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 8: to play I'd love to see. I don't think they'll 295 00:13:56,160 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 8: release Sifius deliberations, but any thing else relating to that, 296 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 8: whether or not Hillary played any role, because she says 297 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 8: she had no role, but it was her department and 298 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 8: her foundation donors who stood to gain. So that's always 299 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 8: been a white whale, is what exactly went on? How 300 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 8: did they get this Russian uranium deal through? 301 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:17,319 Speaker 6: And then as far as the. 302 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 8: Spygate stuff, we know a lot about that, but there's 303 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 8: more names involved, I know that, and they need to 304 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 8: not only be declassified, but also have security clearances yanked. 305 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, so important uranium one. 306 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 1: We still believe there was a government agency that might 307 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: have objected to that deal going through, which would debunk 308 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: the entire narrative. We still don't have those documents. That'd 309 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: be a good place for President Trump to start. I 310 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 1: would guess what do you think, Seamus? 311 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's right. 312 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 8: And there are a lot of other Russian scandals too, 313 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 8: the whole spy ring. 314 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 6: I mean, you remember the spy ring and we talked 315 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 6: about that, the whole Skulkovo deal. 316 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 8: Joe Biden flew to Moscow and pimped this Silicon Valley 317 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 8: of Moscow deal. Why were they giving so many favors 318 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 8: to Russia only to turn around and then, you know, 319 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 8: help with the overthrow of Ukraine and the installation of 320 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 8: new leadership there, you know, the whole rush of Ukraine thing. 321 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 8: I think we're just just the tip of the iceberg. 322 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 4: Really, Seamus, before we let you go. 323 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 3: When it comes to security clearances, I think most people 324 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 3: think that this is something that is coveted and exclusive, 325 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 3: and so few have it in Washington, which I think 326 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 3: is frankly how it should be. 327 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 4: But that's not the case. 328 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 3: You have people in law firms staffed all across the 329 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 3: city and even outside the Beltway. 330 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 4: Who have these security clearances. 331 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 3: President Trump yanking them seems like one by one good idea. 332 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 8: Yeah, absolutely, and it is. It's not a select group. 333 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 8: There's I mean, John, correct me if I'm wrong. I 334 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 8: think there's millions of people who have security players, or 335 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 8: at least for millions that have had them at one 336 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 8: time who are still around. It's a ton of contractors 337 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 8: and not government employees. But then the government employees, I mean, 338 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 8: you don't need to yank everybody's. I mean there's people 339 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 8: working on sensitive stuff that need those clearances. It's these 340 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 8: political operatives and these people who go to CNN to 341 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 8: get a TV deal or MSNBC to get a TV 342 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 8: deal and somehow they still have their clearances, or they 343 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 8: go work through the revolving door at the contractors selling 344 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 8: access to vital national security information. They need to have 345 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 8: there at a minimum reviewed. I don't know about just 346 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 8: flat out revoking everybody's, but it needs to be reviewed, 347 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 8: and it needs to be a pretty regular thing to 348 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 8: review these clearances. 349 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty amazing. You always give us a ton of 350 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 1: wisdom and great reporting. Today you might have given us 351 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: a great hashtag. They are shamous because I think hashtag 352 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: wappo give it back might be actually something. 353 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 2: That could start trending on Twitter time. We'll see whether 354 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 2: that goes. 355 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 1: Or I should say, ex excuse me as always, my friend, 356 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 1: you do great work at the government accountabiliy ins to 357 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 1: do with our good friend Peter Schweitzer. 358 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us today. 359 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, thank you, John, Thanks Amanda. 360 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 2: It was so much fun. 361 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 6: All right. 362 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: Coming up after the commercial break, President Trump and El 363 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 1: Salvador and President locally that today they have a lot 364 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 1: of discuss and we'll break it all down by that 365 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: read messages. 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That just came out about ten minutes ago. 398 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:42,719 Speaker 3: If you want to read the full rundown, you can 399 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:44,919 Speaker 3: head over to justinnews dot com, where there is a 400 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 3: full report from one of our great reporters, Missy Sevy. 401 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:50,199 Speaker 3: All Right, everybody, So President Trump of course met with 402 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:53,639 Speaker 3: El Salvador and President Naibu Keeley today and of course 403 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 3: they discussed their deal of sending dangerous illegal alien criminals 404 00:18:57,240 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 3: to that country, as well as the Supreme Court ruling 405 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 3: the Trump administration must facilitate the return of Kilmar Brego Garcia, 406 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:06,919 Speaker 3: the man who was deported to that country by mistake. 407 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,120 Speaker 3: So joining us now to talk about that and much more, 408 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:12,880 Speaker 3: including kicking out Chinese influence in Central and South America. 409 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 3: Senior policy analysts for the Allison Center for National Security 410 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 3: at the Heritage Foundation, Andres Martinez Fernandez Andres, great to see, Thanks. 411 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 4: For being here, Thanks for having me. 412 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 3: You know, President Trump has brokened some amazing deals with 413 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 3: other nations, but this deal to transport a legal immigrants 414 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 3: away from our country have them housed and imprisoned in 415 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:36,639 Speaker 3: El Salvador, it is I mean, I think it is 416 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 3: outside the box and something that has proven to be 417 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 3: extremely beneficial. 418 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 2: Your thoughts, Yeah, absolutely. 419 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 9: This is one of the big problems with the mass 420 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:51,719 Speaker 9: migration crisis that the Biden administration unleashed on the US 421 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 9: has been of course, the arrival of thousands, tens of 422 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 9: thousands of criminals associated with organizations and as we now 423 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 9: recognize them terrorist organizations within US cities and across the country. 424 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 9: And many times, unfortunately these criminals come from countries like 425 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:16,640 Speaker 9: Venezuela where we have challenges as far as repatriating them 426 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 9: because of the lack of cooperation of those governments and 427 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:25,639 Speaker 9: dictatorial regimes. Thankfully, O Salvador is being a forward leaning 428 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 9: partner for the United States on this crisis under President 429 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 9: Bukele and stepping up to partner with the US to 430 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 9: make sure that there's a sustainable approach to this challenges, 431 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 9: which is really a shared challenge for the hemisphere. 432 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 2: And I've been. 433 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 9: Traveling all across Latin America and you hear all about 434 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 9: the challenges that mass migration, criminality from Venezuelan gangs like 435 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 9: trender Rawa and others have brought to new cities, once 436 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 9: peaceful cities and country in the hemisphere. So it's really 437 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 9: something that requires joint attention. And for me, this meeting 438 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 9: shows that the United States under President Trump is going 439 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 9: to be focused and engaged with our hemisphere to advance 440 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 9: US interest and security. 441 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, really important. 442 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: There's a moment where President Bickley makes up a good 443 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: point which is he doesn't have any obligation to return 444 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: this citizen of his country who is lawfully ordered to 445 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,360 Speaker 1: be deported by the United States and who is considered 446 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 1: by his own country to be a bad actor. Is 447 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:35,959 Speaker 1: there a little bit of a crisis ahead of us? 448 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:39,120 Speaker 1: And maybe else how I won't send back this gentleman 449 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 1: who has been deported. 450 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,159 Speaker 9: Well, I think the only crisis is going to be 451 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:49,159 Speaker 9: one that's manufactured by the media. Frankly, this is someone 452 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 9: who has, by multiple legos courts, been found to be 453 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 9: associated with MS thirteen gang and has had a deportation 454 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 9: or against him. And now with new changes under the 455 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 9: US to how we recognize these organizations as foreign terrorists, uh, 456 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 9: the Truman administration moved to deport him in cooperation with 457 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:16,679 Speaker 9: the government in Osalvador. Again going to that that sustained 458 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 9: cooperation effect cooperation that we see now. Frankly, the fact 459 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 9: that this has become the central issue for this this 460 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 9: very important visit from Olsalvador's president to the White House, 461 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 9: where we have so many issues in our hemisphere to address, 462 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 9: including the presence of China and others. It's a shame 463 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 9: because this is this is a non issue in a 464 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 9: lot of ways, this is not as has been said 465 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 9: by the administration, This is not an American citizen. This 466 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 9: is someone who is here illegally or in the United 467 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 9: States illegally, uh and is now in his country. Frankly, 468 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 9: and again there is these very concerning criminal and foreign 469 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 9: terrorist connections which led to the decision to deport him. 470 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 3: And the new seems to take a few token stories 471 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:06,399 Speaker 3: out of the illegal immigration story and they exploit it. 472 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 3: We saw it in President Trump's first term with the 473 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 3: mother with the child on the cover of Time magazine. 474 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 3: I remember back from my childhood. I think I was 475 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,919 Speaker 3: in elementary school Eleon Gonzales, and Holy smoked, what an 476 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,919 Speaker 3: issue that was. And now I see this issue and 477 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:25,880 Speaker 3: I am fearful that that media, democrats whoever, are going 478 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 3: to take this and use it for bad and use 479 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 3: it to change minds in this country back in the 480 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 3: other direction. How can Trump, how can the Trump administration 481 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 3: prevent that? 482 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 9: Well, I think that's a valid concern because clearly the 483 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 9: media has has hooked on to this and is trying 484 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 9: to do just that, make a crisis out of it. 485 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 9: And I think that the American people made their voice 486 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 9: loud and clear in the elections last year about how 487 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 9: they feel about the criminal, illegal alien presence in the 488 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:59,679 Speaker 9: United States. So if folks in the media and then 489 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,479 Speaker 9: there are party want to make this the hill that 490 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 9: they where they make their stands, which would be preventing 491 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 9: the deportation of illegal aliens with criminal ties, then I 492 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 9: say go ahead. I think it's going to work out 493 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:18,160 Speaker 9: pretty badly for them and it's going to reflect positively 494 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,639 Speaker 9: on the United States that we can develop these partnerships. 495 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,679 Speaker 9: Once again, it shows that we have so much of 496 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 9: an interest from within Latin America to also confront these issues, 497 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 9: that we have such a level of cooperation. You know, 498 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 9: this is not what we had in the past, and 499 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 9: things have changed. And unfortunately for the United States, a 500 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 9: lot of the media and the United States, a lot 501 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 9: of the elites and the Democratic Party, they just haven't 502 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:48,400 Speaker 9: woken up to the terrible danger and effects that illegal 503 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 9: mass migration and criminal gangs have had on the American people. 504 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 1: Andres There's a real irony that forty years after Ronald 505 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 1: Reagan tried to spare parts of Central America in Latin 506 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 1: America from communism, that countries like Al Salvador are now 507 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 1: trying to help out for us from the scorge of 508 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: the Biden border crisis. Talk a little bit about what 509 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,679 Speaker 1: happened with Daniel Deboa winning an Ecuador. You've got a 510 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,919 Speaker 1: conservative an Argentina, a conservative Nel Salvador. It seems like 511 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 1: common sense of American politics paid off, from the Rigan 512 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 1: era to the Trump Arab. 513 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 9: Yeah, there's definitely a revival going on in a lot 514 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 9: of Latin America of common sense, conservative values. And I'm 515 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 9: an Ecuador right now, and you know, there's not there's 516 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 9: a complex political identity to President Noboa, but he's certainly 517 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 9: very much aligned with the United States on many issues. 518 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 9: And he just won overwhelmingly against Luisa Gonzalez, who is 519 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 9: the protge of President Coorea. Rafael Correa, who's a far 520 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 9: left socialist anti American, lost by ten points in this election, 521 00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 9: So a resounding rejection of the far left attempted return there. 522 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 9: You've seen in Argentina the really stunning victory of President Malay, 523 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:13,679 Speaker 9: which has been continued with significant victories and economic reforms 524 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 9: of the kind that a lot of experts and others 525 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 9: said would be impossible in Argentina. 526 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 2: But it shows you there and. 527 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 9: Elsewhere what uncompromising, forward leaning leadership in cooperation with the 528 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 9: United States and with the support of this White House, 529 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:38,120 Speaker 9: which the region's allies of the US certainly have, can 530 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 9: deliver for our hemisphere. And I think that's so important 531 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:45,479 Speaker 9: because the Western hemisphere where we are, it has so 532 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 9: much of an impact on the well being and security 533 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 9: and prosperity of American people. Unfortunately, under President Biden, we 534 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 9: ignored that and that led to one hundred thousand overdose 535 00:26:56,080 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 9: depths from fentanyl year, mass migration disabled in US cities, 536 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 9: and all sorts of economic interests that went under address 537 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 9: throughout our hemisphere. So that's something that the President Trump 538 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,719 Speaker 9: is changing and it's about time. 539 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:13,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you're spot on. 540 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 3: I mean, bringing a whole hemisphere into it, I think 541 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 3: is something that and you know, you look at Mexico 542 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 3: El Salvadron from being the murder capital of the world 543 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,640 Speaker 3: to now being a Level one travel place, which basically 544 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:24,400 Speaker 3: means it's the safest of the safe. So I would 545 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 3: love to see that in some of the other Central 546 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 3: American countries. Andre's Martinez Fernandez from the Heritage Foundation. 547 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:31,439 Speaker 4: Thanks so much for being with us tonight. 548 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 2: Thank you for having me. 549 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,120 Speaker 3: Absolutely all right, everybody after the break. The fallout from 550 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 3: President Trump's care policies continues, and the White House says 551 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 3: we are already seeing results, so we're going to examine 552 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:42,879 Speaker 3: that next. 553 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:48,919 Speaker 1: Hey, it's a new day in America and a new 554 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 1: administration in Washington, d C. 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Go to TWC dot 576 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 1: Health slash just News today in order that's TWC dot 577 00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 1: Health slash just News and use the promo code just 578 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 1: news to save ten percent off. 579 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 2: Welcome back in America. 580 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 1: Over the weekend, you probably miss us because most of 581 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 1: the mainstream media did cover, though we did adjust the news. 582 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 1: Peter Navarro, the trade rep for a President Trump, trade 583 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 1: advisor for President Trump, said that more than ninety countries 584 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 1: are in position to make a deal in the next 585 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 1: few months for better trade privileges for America, better trade 586 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 1: terms for America. 587 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 2: Ninety countries, almost half the world. 588 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 1: That's just remarkable things that are getting covered up all 589 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 1: the time. 590 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 2: I'm in it's just so frustrating. 591 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 1: Well joining us now the co host of the Thrive 592 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 1: Time radio show, contributor for Entrepreneur magazine, and he just 593 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: had Eric Trump speak at one of his recent business workshops. 594 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 2: He is Clay Clark. Clay could have you back on 595 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 2: the show. 596 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 10: Hey, thanks for letting me be here with you on 597 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 10: your broadcast today. I really do appreciate you. 598 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 2: We love having you on. 599 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 1: We love the energy, the excitement, and also the focus 600 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 1: you bring to mainstreat because I think at the end 601 00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 1: of the day, when we get all done with this 602 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 1: terror policy and it all shaks out in the media's 603 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 1: hysteria is over, small business America is going to be 604 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 1: thriving as a result of Some might write about that. 605 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 2: Well, I'll say this. 606 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 10: The only reason most people know me or that I'm 607 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 10: relevant is I was the Entrepreneur of the Year for 608 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 10: this for the Small Business Administration back in two thousand 609 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 10: and seven, and I built many many years ago. I 610 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 10: built a very large company called djconnection dot com, which 611 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 10: I haven't owned in a long time, but we were 612 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 10: up to four thousand weddings a year. If you can 613 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 10: picture that, that's eighty weddings every weekend sound lights Entertainment. 614 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 10: And I sold that company and then invested in a 615 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 10: dental practice and I started doing home flipping and remodeling. 616 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 6: And so today, for anybody. 617 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 10: Who goes to thrivetimeshow dot com, you'll know I work 618 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 10: with doctors, dentists, lawyers in Main Street, and so to 619 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 10: get to you to answer your question. You know, the 620 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 10: average dentist, doctor, lawyer, restaurant owner that I work with, 621 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 10: they are so excited about what President Trump is doing 622 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 10: to revive the American economy. They're excited about the return 623 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 10: of a showerhead that makes sense. They're excited about deregulation. 624 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 10: That's about a business owner, a man who's built a 625 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 10: business empire actually leading the free world. And so most 626 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 10: American business owners that I know, I'm not talking about 627 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 10: some of the talking heads and some of the big 628 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 10: mainstream media. I'm talking about these average business owners. They 629 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 10: could not be more excited about the energy that President 630 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 10: Trump has brought back to the economy. Also, I will 631 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 10: tell you the homebuilders that I work with and the 632 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 10: mortgage providers that I work with, they're telling me that 633 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,719 Speaker 10: more and more average Americans are looking to build a 634 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 10: new home, They're looking to get a mortgage, they're looking 635 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 10: to buy a new vehicle. Why because consumer confidence is 636 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 10: beginning to soar amongst main street business owners. So again, 637 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 10: I think that President Trump has bringing a lot of 638 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 10: confidence back to the American business owner. And I will 639 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 10: also tell you that the mainstream media that the mainstream 640 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 10: media that's always hated President Trump will continue to try 641 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 10: to speak negatively about his policies, But what he's trying 642 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 10: to do is he's trying to course correct four years 643 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 10: of Joe Biden jack assery and he's trying to bring 644 00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 10: it back into in economic sustainable system that makes sense. 645 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 10: So again, he's had four years of Joe Biden's jack assery. 646 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 10: He's tried to correct in ninety days or one hundred 647 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 10: and twenty days. So I would say President Trump is 648 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 10: doing a very good job of doing a dramatic course correction. 649 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 3: When it comes to no pain, no gain, because I 650 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 3: do feel like this ultimately then will be a gain 651 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 3: for the American people, a gain for American workers, again 652 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 3: for American entrepreneurs when it comes to the pain in 653 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 3: the pocketbook for the American people. How protracted you anticipate 654 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 3: that's going. 655 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 10: To be, Well, it's a great question. I don't want 656 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 10: to mislead anybody. I will just say that I imagine 657 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 10: America was. 658 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 6: In a boat and we were going the wrong. 659 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 10: Direction for four consecutive years, and we're about ready to 660 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 10: hit the shore. If President Trump took the figurative wheel 661 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 10: and turn that wheel aggressively and you're in that boat. 662 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 10: It's probably not going to feel very good at that moment. However, 663 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 10: Peter Navarro, who I consider to be a very dear 664 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 10: friend of mine, Peter Navarro a top advisor. 665 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 6: To President Trump. 666 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 10: He has said, and to quote you what you said earlier, 667 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 10: he has said that over ninety countries countries are now 668 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 10: looking to do deals with these United States. So the 669 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,959 Speaker 10: ninety countries, So think about that. I mean, I think 670 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 10: under Joe Biden's watch, a lot of countries were concerned 671 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 10: about America. They or they didn't considered America to be 672 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 10: a serious nation. Now President Trump has ninety countries willing 673 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 10: to work with him. In America, we unfortunately have outsourced 674 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 10: our core competencies where we don't make a lot of 675 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 10: things in America, and so to bring a manufacturing back 676 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 10: to America, America has to become competitive in the world marketplace. 677 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 10: So I believe President Trump is taking aggressive action. But 678 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 10: back to my analogy, I wish I had a better one. 679 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 10: Imagine you're in a boat with somebody who's been driving 680 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 10: that pontoon boat while drunk near into the shore. 681 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 2: Right there. 682 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 10: This is a drunk man aka Joe Biden driving a 683 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 10: figurative pontoon boat right into the shore, and President Trump 684 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 10: grabs the wheel and says, kids, get ready, and he's 685 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 10: turning that thing, and we're all going, has dad lost 686 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 10: his mind? 687 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 2: But if you knew we were how. 688 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 10: Close we were to hit in the shore, it would 689 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 10: make sense. So I would just applaud President Trump's aggressive 690 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 10: action and for bringing back the showerhead. 691 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 4: And Inken doesn't light bulbs. 692 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you. I'm both observed. Absolutely. Okay, real quickly. 693 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 1: You're doing some fun stuff with Eric Trump, and you 694 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 1: mentioned you had won them SBA Entrepreneur of the yearback 695 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 1: in those seven You've never forgotten about mainstream You're on 696 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 1: main Street every day advocating and training and creating the 697 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 1: next generation of entrepreneurs. 698 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 2: Tell us what you got to go with Thereic Trump. Basically, 699 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:24,799 Speaker 2: what we do is I've been doing this for twenty 700 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:25,239 Speaker 2: years now. 701 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,360 Speaker 10: Okay, So it's a two day interactive business workshop. We 702 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:32,759 Speaker 10: teach branding, marketing, sales, search engine optimization, how do you 703 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 10: optimize the website? Finance, how do you hire, inspire, train 704 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 10: and retain great employees? How do you build a successful company? 705 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 10: I mean, at the end of the day. What are 706 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,319 Speaker 10: the steps? Step one, step two, step three, And so 707 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,880 Speaker 10: Eric Trump has teamed up with us to make American 708 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 10: business great again. So if you go to Thrive timeshow 709 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,879 Speaker 10: dot com Thrive timeshow dot com, you'll see that Tim 710 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 10: Tebow is joining me at the June conference, and Eric 711 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 10: Trump will be joining us once again during the September conference. 712 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 10: And Eric has already joined us at previous conferences. I 713 00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,760 Speaker 10: think Eric and I have now done twenty four events together. 714 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,759 Speaker 10: So I encourage everybody out there if you want to 715 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 10: see Eric Trump talk about branding, marketing, sales, accounting, How 716 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 10: do you find good employees, how do you build a workflow, 717 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 10: how do you find a problem and solve it? How 718 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,319 Speaker 10: do you make a profitable business? How do you build 719 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 10: a main street business? Go to Thrive timeshow dot com 720 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 10: and our tickets are tutored and fifty dollars or whatever 721 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 10: price you want to pay. So if you're watching today's 722 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 10: show and you grew up poor like I did, you 723 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 10: can name your price. So just go to Thrive timeshow 724 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,320 Speaker 10: dot com. I think everybody sometimes needs a handof, not 725 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 10: a handout, so you can name your price if you 726 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:31,479 Speaker 10: need to. So it's two drd fifty dollars or whatever 727 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 10: price you can afford there, and that's Thrive timeshow dot com. 728 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,239 Speaker 10: And we have a three hundred people person capacity. So 729 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 10: those three hundred people capacity, so everybody will be able 730 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 10: to ask a question, you'll be able to interact. It 731 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:47,360 Speaker 10: really is a small venue that's designed to be very accessible, 732 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 10: so you can ask Eric Trump, Tim Tebow, those kind 733 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 10: of people your specific business questions. So I could not 734 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,279 Speaker 10: be more excited about about that event. And you can 735 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 10: learn more at thrivetimeshow dot com. And yes, I continue 736 00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 10: to be America's most pale mail. 737 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:01,319 Speaker 6: I love it. 738 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,279 Speaker 3: I love what you're doing. That sounds like such a 739 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,399 Speaker 3: fantastic deal. Two hundred and fifty bucks to basically learn 740 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:07,240 Speaker 3: how to start a business. 741 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:08,360 Speaker 4: Awesome, awesome, awesome. 742 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 3: Clay Clark, host of the Thrivetime radio show, thanks for 743 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,840 Speaker 3: joining us tonight. Thank you absolutely all right, coming up 744 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 3: after the break, Tax Day is just around the corner. 745 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,360 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, I felt an extension. 746 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 3: Yes I have, all right, and there's a lot of 747 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 3: Americans panicking, including me. We're going to get to that 748 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:37,760 Speaker 3: after this. Welcome back to just the news, no noise. 749 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 3: The day many Americans wish that they could avoid every 750 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,840 Speaker 3: year is upon us. Of course, I am talking about 751 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 3: tax Day and it is tomorrow. So if you haven't 752 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,719 Speaker 3: found your taxes, you better very soon or follow an 753 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,440 Speaker 3: extension like I did. And we know that President Trump 754 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:54,400 Speaker 3: and Congress are looking to lower most people's taxes, maybe substantially, 755 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,440 Speaker 3: but can they do it? And how about replacing some 756 00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 3: of that income tax money with terrorists? 757 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 4: That even a viable strategy. 758 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:03,400 Speaker 3: Joining us now to discuss that and much more is 759 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,360 Speaker 3: the CEO of Fenseeca, Mark Cardon. 760 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,400 Speaker 4: Mark, Thanks so much for being here tonight, Thanks for 761 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:08,879 Speaker 4: having me. 762 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,879 Speaker 3: I want to start with the most enticing tidbit there, 763 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 3: which is doing away with the IRS having an ers 764 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:17,920 Speaker 3: or maybe some I would be happy with, even like 765 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:19,920 Speaker 3: a mix of in between, of just filling the IRS 766 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 3: bucket with more tariff money instead of Americans hard earned money. 767 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:23,400 Speaker 4: Is it possible? 768 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,759 Speaker 11: Well, look, I don't think anybody's seriously talking about replacing 769 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 11: all of the IRS, although the president's clearly making a 770 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 11: move to get rid of the all the IRIS agents 771 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 11: that the former administration hired, and clearly making a move 772 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:43,280 Speaker 11: to impose more tariffs and kind of restructure the world economy. 773 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,879 Speaker 11: So I think that will help, But I don't think 774 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,719 Speaker 11: anybody seriously saying we're going to get rid of the irs. 775 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're right the short term. 776 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,040 Speaker 1: As exciting as that might be to some people, my 777 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,440 Speaker 1: colleague aside in frunt of them, Mark, I want to 778 00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:01,840 Speaker 1: ask a little bit about the tough on taxes initiative 779 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:03,799 Speaker 1: that Joe Biden did, because at the end of the day, 780 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,040 Speaker 1: it doesn't seem to be much evidence that it had 781 00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:06,880 Speaker 1: much of an effect. 782 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,239 Speaker 2: It seems to have targeted low income. 783 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:10,719 Speaker 1: People from the data that we've been able to get 784 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 1: from the Syracuse University Track Research Center, and then you've 785 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 1: got federal officials who are dead beats, a lot of 786 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:18,759 Speaker 1: federal workers or dead beats, and who study came out 787 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:22,320 Speaker 1: recently about that. Did Joe Biden really affect any improvement 788 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,440 Speaker 1: in the collection of taxes during these four years? 789 00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,719 Speaker 11: Well, I think the one thing that the Biden administration 790 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:32,920 Speaker 11: did a very good job of is increasing the regulatory 791 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:34,040 Speaker 11: burden on all Americans. 792 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:35,920 Speaker 2: You know, just look at the ten ninety nine. 793 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,160 Speaker 11: Provision, which I know you talk about a lot, but 794 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,759 Speaker 11: you transferring six hundred dollars or more over venmo and 795 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:43,120 Speaker 11: all of a sudden you're going to get a ten 796 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,920 Speaker 11: ninety nine form from the IRS. And I think that 797 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,920 Speaker 11: was emblematic of kind of a broader regulatory state we 798 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:54,960 Speaker 11: sought across every industry, across all departments. There just really 799 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:59,600 Speaker 11: was an unquestioned increase in the regulatory state, including at 800 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:03,240 Speaker 11: the IRA. And I don't think it did really any good. 801 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 11: I think in almost every instance it did more harm 802 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:06,480 Speaker 11: than good. 803 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:09,600 Speaker 4: Probably remarkable, unfortunate to hear. 804 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,280 Speaker 3: I want to ask you about the Trump tax cuts, 805 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,640 Speaker 3: because this was something that did help a great deal 806 00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,160 Speaker 3: of Americans in the first term, and a lot of 807 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:21,200 Speaker 3: folks would like to see that permanent and also possibly 808 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:22,200 Speaker 3: even expanded. 809 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:23,480 Speaker 4: Is that possible. 810 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,919 Speaker 11: I don't think there's any question that's going to happen. Finseca. 811 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:31,520 Speaker 11: You know, we actually met with almost twenty Republican senators 812 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,280 Speaker 11: last week alone as part of a fly in we did, 813 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 11: and our message on that was pretty simple. We want 814 00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,480 Speaker 11: permanence and certainty in the tax code. We want to 815 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:43,279 Speaker 11: extend the twelve twenty seventeen Tax Cuts and Jobs Act. 816 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:47,600 Speaker 11: What that did, without question, it brought more businesses, more 817 00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:51,840 Speaker 11: jobs to the United States. It generated amazing growth. And 818 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,400 Speaker 11: look if we don't extend that, then we're going to 819 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,399 Speaker 11: the American people are looking at a four point five 820 00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:01,240 Speaker 11: trillion dollar tax cut that they just simp can't afford 821 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,440 Speaker 11: on the back of all the inflation and all the 822 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,920 Speaker 11: extra costs they've had to bear. So good news is 823 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:08,719 Speaker 11: the Congress is moving forward to the House in the 824 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:10,000 Speaker 11: center agreed in a budget. 825 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,680 Speaker 2: I expect that we'll see the first tax. 826 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,759 Speaker 11: Bill all the Ways of Means Committee as early as 827 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:19,360 Speaker 11: the beginning of May. So the Congress is clearly working 828 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,120 Speaker 11: forward and there's one hundred percent chance I expect they'll 829 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:22,759 Speaker 11: get that done. 830 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:24,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, we had the Ways of Means Shairman on here, 831 00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,000 Speaker 1: Jason Smith not too long ago, and he's Adam and 832 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:27,920 Speaker 1: they're going to get it done. 833 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:29,560 Speaker 2: It's essential. So it's going to be an. 834 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:34,160 Speaker 1: Important one, really interesting dynamic this year. I think it's 835 00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:39,520 Speaker 1: eight or nine states got extensions for filing deadlines beyond 836 00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:42,120 Speaker 1: the April fifteenth. Of residents in eight or nine Saints Florida, 837 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,400 Speaker 1: all of them hard hit by a natural disaster. Have 838 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,520 Speaker 1: we seen that many states yet a break or a 839 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,000 Speaker 1: few extra weeks like this in the past, it seemed 840 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:51,560 Speaker 1: like a larger. 841 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:51,920 Speaker 2: Number to me. 842 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 11: I think it's without precedence, and I think it's sort 843 00:40:56,719 --> 00:41:00,440 Speaker 11: of a reflection of some of the challenges, particularly the 844 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:04,400 Speaker 11: previous administration had in dealing with some of the natural disaster. 845 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,080 Speaker 11: You know, we got members all over the country, we 846 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:10,680 Speaker 11: got clients all over the country, And what I've heard consistently, 847 00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:13,520 Speaker 11: whether it's California or North Carolina or any other state 848 00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:17,640 Speaker 11: that's impacted by a natural disaster, is that the federal 849 00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:22,520 Speaker 11: response and the state response in some instances was slow 850 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:27,120 Speaker 11: and ineffective. And I think there's a logical reason why 851 00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,920 Speaker 11: we want to give those taxpayers some relief. Again, I 852 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:33,880 Speaker 11: think it's sort of this pro taxpayer movement that's occurring 853 00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:37,080 Speaker 11: within this administration that we certainly welcome, and I think 854 00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:38,320 Speaker 11: the American people need. 855 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:40,359 Speaker 6: Mark. 856 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:42,920 Speaker 3: There was a distinct point in the Biden administration that 857 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,400 Speaker 3: I remember, and it was when we crossed over into 858 00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:49,120 Speaker 3: the one trillion dollar credit card debt range. And it 859 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,320 Speaker 3: was also at a time where there was a record 860 00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:55,719 Speaker 3: there were record amounts of hardship withdrawals from iras, and 861 00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,160 Speaker 3: at the same time, I think cumulative inflation at that 862 00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,800 Speaker 3: time was like thirteen and a half percent or fourteen percent. 863 00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,799 Speaker 3: We're obviously in a much better position right now. But 864 00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,840 Speaker 3: when it comes to people who felt that pain before, 865 00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:08,640 Speaker 3: and maybe they're feeling it a little bit right now 866 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,040 Speaker 3: too because of the tariffs, what's your advice to them. 867 00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:15,720 Speaker 11: Look, there's just no substitute for a holistic financial plan. 868 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:17,600 Speaker 11: You know, if you have all your money in a 869 00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:20,960 Speaker 11: four to oh one K and there's volatility or there's 870 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:24,600 Speaker 11: massive inflation as we saw on the previous administration, but 871 00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,279 Speaker 11: the volatility in the markets is real, and you know 872 00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,359 Speaker 11: the dip that we're feeling, the kind of transition that 873 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,360 Speaker 11: some of the tariffs are causing in the market, volatility 874 00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,000 Speaker 11: that even the President has talked about. You know, if 875 00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:39,000 Speaker 11: you have to withdraw funds from an IRA or from 876 00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,080 Speaker 11: a four to oh one K, and it's during the 877 00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:45,319 Speaker 11: period of a down market or a volatile market, it 878 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,879 Speaker 11: does dramatically increase the possibility that you're going to run 879 00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:52,400 Speaker 11: out of retirement savings. And that's if you're lucky enough 880 00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:56,520 Speaker 11: to have enough retirement savings to list through retirement. So 881 00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:00,560 Speaker 11: our advice is a we need everybody needs to find 882 00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:04,160 Speaker 11: a financial advisor. Everybody needs a coach. Two thirds of Americans, 883 00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:07,400 Speaker 11: based on our research, don't have a financial advisor, and 884 00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,040 Speaker 11: they don't have a written financial plan, So you have 885 00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,080 Speaker 11: to have a coach. You have to have a plan, 886 00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,000 Speaker 11: and that plan needs to be holistic in nature. 887 00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,000 Speaker 4: Really good point, safest way diversify. 888 00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:20,960 Speaker 3: Mark caden CEO of Finseca, thanks so much for joining 889 00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,600 Speaker 3: us tonight. Thanks for all your wisdom on this, Thanks 890 00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,239 Speaker 3: for having me absolutely all right, everybody, don't forget tax 891 00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:26,880 Speaker 3: day tomorrow. 892 00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:28,600 Speaker 4: Either file them or file on extension. 893 00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:32,160 Speaker 3: Coming up, Max, Harvard is offering remedial math courses. 894 00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:33,080 Speaker 4: Yep, you heard that right. 895 00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:36,600 Speaker 3: Perhaps America's most elite institutions felt the need to. 896 00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:38,359 Speaker 4: Have a remedial math class. If you can get into 897 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,160 Speaker 4: an elite institution, shouldn't you not need remedial math. That's 898 00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:41,600 Speaker 4: what I would be. 899 00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:55,960 Speaker 3: We're going to talk about that after the break. Welcome 900 00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,120 Speaker 3: back everybody to the final segment of the show. Now, 901 00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:00,719 Speaker 3: when you think of Harvard University, thing that comes to 902 00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:03,400 Speaker 3: your mind, I bet it is not remedial math classes 903 00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:03,880 Speaker 3: with Harvard. 904 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:05,320 Speaker 4: Yes, they are offering. 905 00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,600 Speaker 3: Those for students that are lacking in what they call 906 00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:09,160 Speaker 3: foundational skills. 907 00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,680 Speaker 4: So what exactly is going on here with this to discuss? 908 00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:12,760 Speaker 4: That is campus reform? 909 00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:16,880 Speaker 3: Higher education fellow and founder of Renegade Institute for Liberty, 910 00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,760 Speaker 3: Professor Matthew Garrett, Thank you so much for being. 911 00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:22,960 Speaker 4: Here, Professor, thank you for having me. 912 00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,080 Speaker 3: I would think that if you get into an elite 913 00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:30,040 Speaker 3: institution like Harvard, then you shouldn't need remedial anything. 914 00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:34,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, you would expect that to be the case, and 915 00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,239 Speaker 5: historically that has been the case. Harvard's always had a 916 00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:40,200 Speaker 5: very high standard for admissions. But it would appear that 917 00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:42,959 Speaker 5: that's no longer the plan. That it's become Harvard High 918 00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,520 Speaker 5: and they're going to focus on remediation, which is really 919 00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:48,680 Speaker 5: a tragedy for all the students who belong there and 920 00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:50,160 Speaker 5: have earned their way in there, and now we're going 921 00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:53,080 Speaker 5: to find their classes sort of dumbed down to meet 922 00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:56,160 Speaker 5: the standard of the incoming students. 923 00:44:56,200 --> 00:45:00,800 Speaker 1: Just amazing the education system. The more it has failed, 924 00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:05,200 Speaker 1: the more that it has let down students who should 925 00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,680 Speaker 1: have skills to come into the world with, the more 926 00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:11,080 Speaker 1: they've just given blank passes to people. Oregon just getting 927 00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:15,320 Speaker 1: rid of any sort of standards for graduation, Other states 928 00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:19,600 Speaker 1: doing something similar. Is there anything on the horizon to 929 00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,360 Speaker 1: reverse this sort of culture of accepting failure. 930 00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,839 Speaker 5: Well, you know, we're starting to see people wake up 931 00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:32,240 Speaker 5: from a little bit of it. I think the UC system, 932 00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:37,200 Speaker 5: Columbia other schools are still pushing straightforward with their ideas 933 00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:40,960 Speaker 5: about ideology over excellence. But there are other schools from 934 00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:45,319 Speaker 5: Dartmouth to Brown to Caltech that have realized that this 935 00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:50,000 Speaker 5: was really a misguided pathway where the university has got 936 00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,719 Speaker 5: rid of saninized tests and they admitted students based on 937 00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:59,120 Speaker 5: these fuzzy metrics race conscious admissions. That that's not really 938 00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:01,399 Speaker 5: working out well for them. So we're starting to see 939 00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:04,520 Speaker 5: some schools start to move back towards a obvious standard 940 00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:06,400 Speaker 5: for admissions, and I think that's a good start. 941 00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,040 Speaker 3: Have there been any schools where it worked out well? 942 00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:11,360 Speaker 3: Because I've been in California for the better part of 943 00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:13,319 Speaker 3: the last twenty years, and I remember they were one 944 00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,600 Speaker 3: of the first to at a lot of universities in 945 00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:18,879 Speaker 3: California to not require SAT or ACT scores. Are there 946 00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:20,799 Speaker 3: any case suites, any schools at all where this has 947 00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:22,759 Speaker 3: worked out well. 948 00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:26,280 Speaker 5: I've not seen any examples of it being successful. Typically, 949 00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:30,520 Speaker 5: when we see DEI agendas imposed on any university, whether 950 00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,960 Speaker 5: that be through admissions or or safe spaces or whatever 951 00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:37,360 Speaker 5: other agenda they're trying to impose it pretty consistently leads 952 00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,359 Speaker 5: to in fighting, conflict, and a decline in rigor. So 953 00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,920 Speaker 5: this has really proven to be a failed ideology, a 954 00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:46,120 Speaker 5: failed experiment the last five years or so, and it's 955 00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:49,839 Speaker 5: really wonderful to see institutions hopefully pivoting away. It took 956 00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,239 Speaker 5: a little bit of pressure from the Executive office, but 957 00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,560 Speaker 5: we're starting to see hopefully a pivot away from some 958 00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:59,000 Speaker 5: of these detrimental DEI policies towards a focus on rigor 959 00:46:59,040 --> 00:46:59,680 Speaker 5: and excellence. 960 00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:05,120 Speaker 1: Man speaking of DEI and Harvard today, the Harvard University 961 00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:08,600 Speaker 1: president said that they would resist and fight President Trump's 962 00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,480 Speaker 1: executive orders ordering the university to clean things up on 963 00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:14,920 Speaker 1: DEEI and anti Semitism. What sort of fight may lay 964 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,520 Speaker 1: ahead for that university and others like it who go 965 00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:19,239 Speaker 1: head ahead with the Trump administration. 966 00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:23,719 Speaker 5: Well, we've already saw what happened at Columbia, where they 967 00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,120 Speaker 5: had the same sort of posture. They insisted they were 968 00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:28,760 Speaker 5: going to fight, and it didn't take too long before 969 00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:32,120 Speaker 5: they caved. And then they brought in a new president 970 00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:35,000 Speaker 5: who said that they would follow along and then quietly 971 00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:38,240 Speaker 5: started to show signs of resisting, and again they were removed, 972 00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:41,239 Speaker 5: and Columbia's really gone through a difficult transition trying to 973 00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:44,680 Speaker 5: find out how what happens when you when you ignore 974 00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,680 Speaker 5: the law. Basically, so I suspect the same fate lies 975 00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,359 Speaker 5: for Harvard that they continue to resist and don't want 976 00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:53,480 Speaker 5: to follow basic civil rights and treat applicants as equals 977 00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:56,600 Speaker 5: regardless of their race, Well, then we're going to find 978 00:47:56,840 --> 00:48:00,120 Speaker 5: that they too suffer a loss of federal funding. And 979 00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,759 Speaker 5: Harvard has a lot of federal grant money that's going 980 00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:05,080 Speaker 5: through it that could be really an unfortunate loss for 981 00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,600 Speaker 5: the community around it as well, if only they would 982 00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:11,080 Speaker 5: just follow the basic civil rights protections for all of 983 00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:11,759 Speaker 5: the applicants. 984 00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:18,000 Speaker 3: When it comes to DEI, that obviously feeds the educational 985 00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,239 Speaker 3: standards being brought down. And it's not because one race 986 00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,080 Speaker 3: is better than the other. It's just that everybody. There 987 00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:23,880 Speaker 3: are a few bad bananas in every bunch. So it's 988 00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,720 Speaker 3: going to bring it down when you don't focus on merit, 989 00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:29,360 Speaker 3: or when you don't focus on merit and you focus 990 00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:32,680 Speaker 3: on things like skin color or sexuality instead. What's the 991 00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:37,440 Speaker 3: outcome for the American workforce if they keep these standards 992 00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:40,399 Speaker 3: standards and these people go out into the world to work. 993 00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:45,600 Speaker 5: Sure when we face students who aren't prepared and they 994 00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:48,160 Speaker 5: aren't able to succeed in their classroom. They're not going 995 00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:51,040 Speaker 5: to know without algebra, They're not going to pass organic chemistry, 996 00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:54,040 Speaker 5: without engineering, without geometry, they're not going to pass engineering. 997 00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:55,239 Speaker 2: That these are going to have. 998 00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:58,120 Speaker 5: Real world effects when it comes to building planes and 999 00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:00,440 Speaker 5: building bridges and things are going to go a little 1000 00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:02,280 Speaker 5: We're right and we're. 1001 00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:03,080 Speaker 4: Going to have problems. 1002 00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:06,720 Speaker 5: So it's essential that our institutions match students to the 1003 00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:09,160 Speaker 5: best school for them, and that means at Harvard they 1004 00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:11,399 Speaker 5: need to keep a high standard and have they get 1005 00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:13,560 Speaker 5: to have the best students in the country. I'd like 1006 00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:16,560 Speaker 5: to see those students excel, and in our middle tier schools, 1007 00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:18,880 Speaker 5: those are great students there that can excel. So we 1008 00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,160 Speaker 5: need to match our students at the right institution for 1009 00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:22,920 Speaker 5: them where they can get the help they need so 1010 00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:24,719 Speaker 5: they can excel and reach their potential. 1011 00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:25,680 Speaker 4: Absolutely. 1012 00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:29,760 Speaker 3: Professor Matthew Garrett, Campus Reform Higher Education Fellow and founder 1013 00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:31,520 Speaker 3: Renegade Institute for Liberty. 1014 00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:32,640 Speaker 4: Thanks so much for being with us tonight. 1015 00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:34,239 Speaker 2: Thank you. 1016 00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:36,360 Speaker 3: I'm a remember a story last year over on Just 1017 00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:39,480 Speaker 3: the News about businesses having to spend. 1018 00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:42,000 Speaker 4: Billions of dollars on remedial writing training. You remember that. 1019 00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:45,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I knew that you have a renegade to support liberty, 1020 00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:48,880 Speaker 1: to institute, to go back to liberty. 1021 00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:53,120 Speaker 3: That's host renegade, rebel outlaw, that's what liberty is these days. 1022 00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:53,719 Speaker 4: Anonymous. 1023 00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:55,960 Speaker 3: All right, everybody that's going to do it for us tonight, 1024 00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:57,400 Speaker 3: We're going to be back here tomorrow night at six 1025 00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:57,960 Speaker 3: d Abson