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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Drive. I'm Dale Lolly. He is

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Speaker 1: Matt Williamson and his time.

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Speaker 2: For the Fantasy Football Focus.

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Speaker 1: Matt, and as I mentioned going into the break lasson,

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Speaker 1: we did a single game captain's chair game last night

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Speaker 1: and you texted me in the first quarter after Andrews

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Speaker 1: went out well winning, and they were even people listeners

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Speaker 1: who were who had played our lineup as well, and

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Speaker 1: so I guess, I guess we're done. And then Burrow

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Speaker 1: went out.

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Speaker 2: Why am I even thinking about it anymore?

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Speaker 1: But here's the thing. Andrews was owned. Now he was

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Speaker 1: only in the captain's chair for eleven point eight percent

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Speaker 1: of lineups, but I'll bet a lot of people had

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Speaker 1: Chase in their captain's chair.

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Speaker 2: That was a killer. Yeah to me, that was maybe

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Speaker 2: the biggest thing going.

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Speaker 1: On, or somebody else. Maybe they had the rookie running

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Speaker 1: back Keaton, maybe maybe Buster Keaton, but Lamar twenty three

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Speaker 1: point nine six percent. Now he was owned in eighty

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Speaker 1: nine point four percent. That's what you're going to see

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Speaker 1: in that in forty eight point eight percent of the

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Speaker 1: people had them at the captain's chair.

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Speaker 2: He had a lot of guys pick from you're going

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Speaker 2: to spend some money on quarterbacks, but.

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Speaker 1: To put Lamar in the captain's chair, you're paying like

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Speaker 1: you were paying like eighteen. You're shorting yourself other places.

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Speaker 1: What we did that was right was the guys, the

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Speaker 1: ancillary guys that we put in the lineup.

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Speaker 2: That's where we survived.

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Speaker 1: Evan McPherson was in twenty one percent of twenty one

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Speaker 1: point two percent of lineups. He had ten points.

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Speaker 2: He was worth the money.

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Speaker 1: Rashad Bateman No captain's chairs. No captain's chairs for Bateman.

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Speaker 1: Oh really, but he was only in three point two

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Speaker 1: percent of lineups and we got eight points out of him.

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Speaker 2: Look a little sketchy there for a while, because the.

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Speaker 1: Gus bus one point seven percent, captain's chair fourteen point

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Speaker 1: eight percent ownership. That's what it saved us.

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Speaker 2: That's our best pack.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, twenty one points out of him.

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Speaker 2: That saved us because the others.

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Speaker 1: You know, it was kind of sketchy, But that's the

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Speaker 1: beauty of doing the fifty fifties. You only have to

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Speaker 1: finish in the top fifty percent, and we did that because.

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Speaker 2: You know, I mean, I don't I bet there's no

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Speaker 2: way of knowing this, but I bet ninety five percent

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Speaker 2: of the lineups had either Andrews, Chase or Burrow, and

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Speaker 2: many had two, including us.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if you people probably had mixing in there. Mixing

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Speaker 1: wasn't bad. And I don't know if he killed, but

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Speaker 1: you had to overpay to get him, yeahah yeah, or

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Speaker 1: maybe you started Odell or you started somebody that you know.

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Speaker 1: I bet there were a lot of flowers.

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Speaker 2: Gus saved us, yeah, saved and not having Chase saved us.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, we pivoted off of those guys, and well

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Speaker 1: it worked out, it did. Uh, so we might buildsurs.

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Speaker 1: We got to build our lineup for this week. And uh,

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Speaker 1: let's see.

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Speaker 2: Where we went.

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Speaker 1: We went to all the games, you know, thirteen games

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Speaker 1: through Monday. I'm not gonna say what lineup, what we're

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Speaker 1: going into here. You're gonna have to come find us

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Speaker 1: if you're gonna join our lineup. Here we go. So

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Speaker 1: for this week's lineup, let's look at our defenses. We

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Speaker 1: looked we went over this earlier in the week. This

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Speaker 1: was there was some Chalky stuff, that being the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: at forty one hundred against Carolina.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's cool, Big Buck.

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Speaker 1: The Bills against the Jets, are four thousand. I don't

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Speaker 1: love that one too. It's too expensive. Yeah for a

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Speaker 1: defense is not great.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's too expensive.

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Speaker 1: The forty nine Ers against Tampa Bay thirty nine hundred.

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Speaker 1: The Lions against Chicago are thirty eight hundred.

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Speaker 2: Fields is playing. I just saw that a second ago.

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Speaker 1: The Browns against the Steelers are thirty seven hundred. The

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Speaker 1: Commanders against the Giants, well, thirty six hundred.

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Speaker 2: I thought they'd be a little cheaper than that.

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Speaker 1: Steelers against the Browns is thirty five hundred.

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Speaker 2: Not bad, that's not bad at all.

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Speaker 1: Jaguars against the Titans thirty four hundred. That was when

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Speaker 1: we talked about h Chargers against Green Bay thirty three hundred.

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Speaker 1: Vikings against Denver thirty three hundred, Dolphins against the Raiders

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Speaker 2: I kind of like Miami there.

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Speaker 1: I kind of like that. That's a nice paydown.

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Speaker 2: I don't love playing. I don't love those four thousand

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Speaker 1: No, the Texans against Arizona are three thousand. The Broncos

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Speaker 1: against the Vikings are three thousand. Josh Dobbs, everybody forgets

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Speaker 1: Josh Dobbs will turn the football over.

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Speaker 2: No, it's not terrible. Uhar and all that Jefferson's back.

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Speaker 1: Jefferson's back likely Yeah, well, yeah, they haven't activating now.

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Speaker 2: They said he's listed as questionable right now.

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Speaker 1: The Giants against Washington are three thousand. No, Cardinals against

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Speaker 1: Houston are twenty nine hundred. No, Raiders against Miami. No.

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Speaker 1: Eagles against the Chiefs are twenty eight hundred.

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Speaker 2: You would immediately think no. Yeah, but the Chiefs are

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Speaker 2: not this lethal offense.

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Speaker 1: They're not The Rams against Seattle twenty eight hundred. No,

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Speaker 1: the Buccaneers against San Francisco twenty seven hundred. The Chiefs

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Speaker 1: on the other side of that game against the Eagles

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Speaker 1: twenty six hundred dollars for the chief Chiefs defense is good.

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Speaker 2: It's really good. At home. They're favored. I think I

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Speaker 2: like Miami me best, but Chiefs isn't bad.

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Speaker 1: The Jets against Buffalo are twenty six hundred. That's a

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Speaker 1: good defense.

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Speaker 2: Is a good defense.

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Speaker 1: The Titans against Jacksonville's twenty five hundred, the Bears against

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Speaker 1: Detroit twenty four hundred, the Packers against the Chargers twenty

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Speaker 1: three hundred, and the Panthers against Dallas or twenty two hundred.

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Speaker 1: They're an opposite ends there the best defense against the

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Speaker 1: worst defense.

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Speaker 2: That's pretty crazy. Yeah, I hate the Steelers. I like

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Speaker 2: the Dolphins probably best.

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Speaker 1: I think I would play the Dolphins here, although that

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Speaker 1: by eight O'Connell.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they're ready to come back to earth,

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Speaker 2: not that they were flying super high.

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Speaker 1: It's a good cheap thirty two hundred dollars, there's nice and.

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Speaker 2: We can always bump up the one the price.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's only three three hundred dollars more to get

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Speaker 1: up to the Steelers, which isn't bad in mind. Then, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you wanna go quarterback, next tight end? Whatever, let's go

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Speaker 1: tight end all right, As you can imagine, Kelsey is

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Speaker 1: number one at eighty one hundred.

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Speaker 2: Philadelphia paying for that.

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia is twenty seventh against opposing tight ends.

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Speaker 2: Last we saw him, he got like quadruple cover.

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Speaker 1: Yeah he was.

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Speaker 1: Kittle is sixty four hundred, right, Sam Laporta fifty eight hundred.

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Speaker 1: TJ. Hawkinson is fifty six hundred. They are a thirty

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Speaker 2: What is Laporta and Hawkinson's defenses are going to?

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Speaker 1: Chicago is twentieth and Minnesota or Denver is thirty second.

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Speaker 2: Hawkinson's nice but they also play against Kelsey. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Dalton Schultz is five thousand, Dalton Kaid is forty nine hundred.

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Speaker 1: If you think that they're going to shut down the

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Speaker 1: Bills on the.

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Speaker 2: Outside, Kincaid's shows up every week. Yeah, I like that.

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Speaker 1: Jake Ferguson forty six hundred dollars.

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Speaker 2: He might be their number two.

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Speaker 1: I think he is.

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Speaker 1: Trey McBride is forty four hundred. They are twenty sixth

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Speaker 2: I like that for a second.

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Speaker 1: One of my favorite I think that's a shootout.

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Speaker 2: Me too. One of my favorite bets this week is

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Speaker 2: the over in that game, and it's a high number.

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Speaker 2: Like I think Kyler verse Stroud is going to be

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Speaker 2: up and down the field like crazy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah I do too. Yeah, I like that one.

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Speaker 2: I'd be cool with that.

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Speaker 1: Evan Ingram forty three hundred. They're second against opposing title ends. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Cole Comet is forty one hundred against Detroit, David and

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Speaker 1: Joku thirty nine hundred against the Steelers the Seas Balls.

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Speaker 1: The Steelers are fourth against the posing tight ends, though

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Speaker 1: this year they've been pretty good.

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Speaker 2: I think they've only let up one tight end touchdown.

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Speaker 2: On all year two.

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Speaker 1: Logan Thomas is thirty seven hundred, Luke Musgrave is thirty

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Speaker 1: six hundred, and the Chargers are thirty first against opposing

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Speaker 2: I'm a Musgrave believer. Musgrave and McBride might be my

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Speaker 2: two favorites. So far we got it's not bad.

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Speaker 1: Everett is I think he's questioned below thirty five hundred.

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Speaker 1: He is question okay. Dotton is thirty four hundred. They're

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Speaker 1: third though against posing tight ends. As you can imagine.

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Speaker 1: Higbee is three thirty three hundred. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: we need to go much.

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Speaker 2: They were going pretty low. I'm just curious how how

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Speaker 2: low is Friar move.

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Speaker 1: I don't even see him on here, Like, where the

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Speaker 1: heck's he? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I know they're great against tight ends, but

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Speaker 2: is he free?

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Speaker 1: He is twenty five one hundred.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't think I'm ready to get because they.

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Speaker 1: Still have him on IR. He will be activated before

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Speaker 1: tomorrow's game, by the way, before Sundays.

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Speaker 2: That's too cheap, but I'd like to get somebody higher than.

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Speaker 1: I really like Trey McBride. Yeah, that's that price is

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Speaker 1: awesome for a guy who's got a lot of target

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Speaker 1: he's going to get at least eight.

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Speaker 2: I think that's a good offense. Actually, yeah, I'm like

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Speaker 2: ready to say that about it.

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Speaker 1: The defense and the defense. Thanks, So it's going to

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Speaker 1: be up and down the field. No, you know, okay,

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks QB. We're going to remember that as well.

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Speaker 2: Stroud and Kyler are both interesting to me.

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Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts tops the list at eighty three hundred.

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Speaker 2: I'm not ready to I'm not sure that's a shootout.

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen is eighty two hundred. I don't like that.

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Speaker 1: Mahomes is eight thousand. Philly's twenty ninth against opposing quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: And they're the best three guys out there.

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Speaker 1: Against the Raiders is seventy seven hundred. Justin Herbert against

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Speaker 1: the Packers is seventy six hundred, Dak Prescott seventy three hundred.

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Speaker 1: Stroud seven thousand.

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Speaker 2: Nice.

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Speaker 1: Justin Fields is sixty nine hundred, Jared Goff sixty six hundred.

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Speaker 1: They're twenty seventh against.

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Speaker 2: This old neighborhoods kind of nice.

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Speaker 1: Stafford is sixty four hundred, Sam Howe is sixty three hundred,

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray sixty one hundred.

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Speaker 2: That seems too cheap. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence is six thousand. Gino Smith fifty nine hundred,

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Speaker 1: Brock Purty is fifty eight hundred. I don't hate that.

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Speaker 2: I don't hate that either.

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Speaker 1: They're twenty eighth against the posing quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: They can't get off Kyler.

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Speaker 1: Josh Dobbs fifty seven hundred.

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Speaker 2: He's running more than ever.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Jordan Love is fifty six hundred. The Chargers are

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Speaker 1: thirty first against opposing tight ends.

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Speaker 2: I should say, I mean I was not a believer

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Speaker 2: going in the game.

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Speaker 1: They just don't have a high completion percentage. Baker Mayfield

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Speaker 1: is fifty three hundred. Will Levis is fifty two hundred.

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Speaker 1: Why is Will Levis? He have one game. The last

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Speaker 1: two games he's done nothing. Yeah, he gets stop beat

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Speaker 1: out of him. Russell Wilson fifty two hundred. That's too

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Speaker 1: cheap for us. He's playing pretty well he is. Bryce

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Speaker 1: Young is fifty one hundred. Carson Wentz is fifty one hundred,

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Speaker 1: Tyson Badgin is five thousand. Tommy Tommy DeVito is five thousand.

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Speaker 1: PJ Walker is forty nine hundred eight. No, Connell was

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Speaker 1: forty nine hundred.

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Speaker 2: PJ. Walker is more than the starter Kenny Pickett.

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Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett is forty eight hundred. He is cheaper than

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Speaker 1: freaking Tommy DeVito. Are you kidding me?

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Speaker 2: I like Kyler? I like Kyler, Yeah, but cut to

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Speaker 2: the chase. I think people forget how awesome of a

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Speaker 2: fantasy guy he is. I mean, is he the best

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Speaker 2: quarterback of the planet. No, but he always runs.

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Speaker 1: Well, he's stacks with mcgrideford. Yeah, so there's that. Okay,

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Speaker 1: running backs, McCaffrey is ninety three hundred. They're number two

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Speaker 1: against the run. I don't love that starting.

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Speaker 2: That's pricey too, obviously.

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Speaker 1: Ecklar is eighty six hundred. They're twenty six to get.

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Speaker 1: We just saw the Steelers run all over them. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's not bad. Receivers can balls at n is seventy

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Speaker 2: Their offensive as Yeah, they haven't run the ball that great.

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Speaker 1: Sak One is seventy one hundred, Jamiir Gibbs is seven thousand,

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Speaker 1: Raheem Mostert is sixty nine hundred, Josh Jacobs is sixty

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Speaker 1: eight hundred, DeAndre Swift is sixty seven hundred, Kenneth Walker

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Speaker 1: sixty seven hundred, Tony Pollard sixty six hundred. They're thirty

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Speaker 1: first against the posting h eight sixty six hundred.

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Speaker 2: I'm intrigued.

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Speaker 1: David Montgomery sixty five hundred. Nice, I like both of those.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Bryce Hall is sixty four hundred. Buffalo is twenty fourth

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Speaker 1: against posing running backs, but Checko is sixty three hundred,

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Speaker 1: but they're number one. Derrick Henry sixty three hundred, Aaron

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Speaker 1: Jones sixty two hundred. There are. The Chargers are twenty

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Speaker 1: ninth against opposing running backs.

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Speaker 2: Jones are good and.

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Speaker 1: They stopped, but they they give up a ton of

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Speaker 1: passes to running backs. That's the key, I think. James Cook.

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Speaker 1: They're twenty third against opposing running backs. Rashad White six thousand.

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Speaker 1: If you think they're going to be behind the entire game.

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Speaker 2: Which they are, I'm sure they will.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's gonna catch a bunch of passes. Brian Robinson

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Speaker 1: that's not bad. They'll get two more catches than he

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Speaker 1: usually does. James Connor against that Houston defense is fifty

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Speaker 1: seven hundred. Deontay Foreman fifty six hundred. Javonte Robert has

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Speaker 1: been activated. It just happened today. Javonte Williams is fifty

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Speaker 1: five hundred.

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Speaker 2: I like the way he's been running.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot.

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Speaker 2: They feed him the ball too.

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Speaker 1: Damian Pierce is fifty four hundred.

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Speaker 2: They don't like it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I like him. On the other side of that,

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Speaker 1: Devin Singletary is fifty three hundred and they're thirtieth against

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Speaker 2: There's a lot I like.

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Speaker 1: Nause is fifty one hundred. Jayalen Warren is also fifty one.

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Speaker 2: I was a curious who would be more there. I

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Speaker 2: have a league that I'm torn. I have to start

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Speaker 2: one of the two, and I don't know which one

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Speaker 1: Darryl Henderson is also five thousand. I didn't see. Oh.

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Speaker 1: Jerome Ford is fifty two hundred.

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Speaker 2: So he's the same as Nausey and Warren, just one

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Speaker 2: hundred dollars more. Okay, music get probably more touches either way. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Javonte stood out to me, if we want to get expensive,

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Speaker 2: I was looking at Eckler. There was like five right

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Speaker 2: that Montgomery neighborhood was kind of nice. Yeah, there was

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Speaker 2: like three or four of that price range. Who you like, man,

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Speaker 2: there was a lot there.

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Speaker 1: We do we think eight Chan is eight Chan was

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you sixty six hundred.

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Speaker 2: Is I should sit here with a pad and right

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Speaker 2: down the ones, cause I sometimes forget.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I wouldn't mind starting either a Chan or

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Speaker 1: Montgomery or both. You could start both.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't fight.

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Speaker 1: It's only slightly over budget. But we can find one

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Speaker 1: of those cheap backs to put in our flex spot.

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Speaker 2: Let's see what happens, all right, problem with that plug

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Speaker 2: him in?

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Speaker 1: If e CHAN isn't activated, he's going to.

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Speaker 2: Be Yeah, I think they pretty much event we can.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we can pivot off to something else there, Okay,

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Speaker 1: Looking at wide receiver, Tyreek is ninety three hundred, Ceedee

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Speaker 1: Lamb is ninety two hundred, Stefan Diggs is ninety one hundred,

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Speaker 1: Keenan Allen nine thousand, AJ Brown eighty nine hundred, Justin

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Speaker 1: Jefferson eighty nine hundred. That's the one's kind of still

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Speaker 1: kind of iffy whether he gets at he.

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Speaker 2: Gets certained too. Yeah, he's a stay away from me.

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Speaker 1: Amon raw Saint Brown is eighty eight hundred. Cooper Cup

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Speaker 1: is eighty one hundred dollars with Stafford coming back.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, it's not bad.

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Speaker 1: Davante Adams seventy nine.

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Speaker 2: Hundred, Seattle against receivers.

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Speaker 1: Nineteenth, Davante adams Is seventy nine hundred, Jalen Waddle seventy

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Speaker 1: six hundred, Adam Thielen seventy five hundred. Apparently they're looking

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Speaker 1: at the same thing that I did. Well, they get

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Speaker 1: the play called. The play callers changed back here. Mike

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Speaker 1: Evans seventy four hundred, Brandon i uk At seventy two hundred.

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Speaker 1: I like both those, yeah, Puka nikua At seventy one hundred.

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Speaker 2: Coming off a bye, I think I think the rookies

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Devonte Smith seven thousand, DK Metcalf sixty nine hundred.

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Speaker 2: But the Rams are bad against receivers.

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Speaker 1: They're eleventh and Lockett's questionable. Yeah, Nico Collins is sixty seven.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you start Jackson Smith and Jigba.

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Speaker 2: Remember he's a player of the way. Yeah, maybe he's

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Speaker 2: our cheap flex type guy.

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Speaker 1: Nico Collins sixty seven hundred, Chris Godwin sixty six hundred.

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Speaker 1: Tyler Lockett is questionable, he's sixty five hundred. Garrett Wilson

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Speaker 1: is sixty four hundred. I hate Daddy's no he'll never score.

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Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel sixty three hundred, Amari Cooper sixty two hundred.

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Speaker 1: I think he gets a boatload of Joey Porter Junior

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Speaker 1: this week. DeAndre Hopkins sixty one hundred, Jacobi Meyer sixty

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Speaker 1: one hundred. I like this one. Christian Kirk at six thousand,

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Speaker 1: reasonably Cheap's not bad. Tank Dell at fifty nine hundred,

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Speaker 1: that's not bad either, like at Yeah, Jordan Addison at

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Speaker 1: fifty nine hundred. Well, we'll see. Terry McLaurin is fifty

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Speaker 1: eight hundred against the Giants, against the Giants who are

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Speaker 2: Him, Dell and whoever you said right above Dell.

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Speaker 1: DJ Moore is fifty six hundred. Justin Fields is coming back.

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Speaker 1: He had that's about either he had Google eyes.

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Speaker 2: These are number one receivers, I mean McLaurin, Moore.

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Speaker 1: Gabe Davis fifty five hundred, Calvin Ridley fifty four hundred.

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Speaker 1: Get the Rashid Rice start throw at fifty three hundred.

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Speaker 2: I'm more and more of a believer in.

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Speaker 1: They're thirty second against opposing wide receivers. The Eagles.

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Speaker 2: I like it. I think you do it. You wanna

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Speaker 2: plug that one in? Yeah, I mean not like Kelsey

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Speaker 2: doesn't always get attention.

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Speaker 1: I mean that gets us back up. The wee can

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Speaker 2: What do you like Dell Kirk? There was two or

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Speaker 2: three right in that neighborhood too.

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Speaker 1: I really like Kirk here.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm fine with it at six.

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Speaker 1: Thousand, and we could actually afford Dell would be right

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Speaker 1: on real budget as well.

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Speaker 2: Fifty. I think Nico's coming back from an injury. Noah

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Speaker 2: Brown's got an injury.

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Speaker 1: We think that game is a shootout. Yeah, then we

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Speaker 1: got somebody on both sides of it. I don't hate it.

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Speaker 2: No, I think he's quality.

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Speaker 1: That leaves us them with six thousand to spend on

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Speaker 1: our flex play. And we had some guys we really

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Speaker 1: Terry McLaurin.

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Speaker 2: McLaurin, Brian Robinson. I'd like one of those commanders.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, which one you think? I mean, Robinson's averaging more

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Speaker 2: I know you're running back theory of if it's running

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Speaker 2: back for a receiver, give me the back.

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Speaker 1: I mean they're gonna I would think they're winning this

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Speaker 1: game against Tommy DeVito. They're gonna lean on Robinson a lot.

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Speaker 2: That's fine.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's a safer play. It's definitely safer

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Speaker 1: play because he's going to wait, he's gonna get fifteen

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Speaker 1: to twenty touches.

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Speaker 2: Giants are horrendous.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he'll catch.

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Speaker 2: Some balls with no they'll dump it to him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. All right, we still two hundred left over.

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Speaker 2: Were the Steeler two hundred more they were three hundred,

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Speaker 2: we could go a little bit cheaper there on that

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Speaker 2: flex And is McLaurin like one hundred bucks less than

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Speaker 2: the same.

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Speaker 1: Price as Robins, same exact price, guys just below Robinson. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you have James Connor, Deontay Foreman, DJ Moore Hawkinson, how

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Speaker 1: about more and the Steelers. I think that gets us

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Speaker 1: the Steelers. Let's see here, that does get us the.

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Speaker 2: Steelers sachs and turnovers and low offensive output.

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Speaker 1: TJ Watts playing. We went over those numbers yesterday.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if the wat Jones is or not,

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Speaker 2: but I know Conklin and Wills aren't.

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Speaker 1: Okay, we have anything left. We have one hundred dollars

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Speaker 1: left over. That's not bad. So we would have Kyler, Murray,

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Speaker 2: I think she Rice is in for a big second

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Speaker 2: half of the season.

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Speaker 1: I think he is too. Trey McBride tight end, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: DJ Moore wide receiver, and the Steelers defense at thirty

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Speaker 1: five hundred as well. If eight Chan is out.

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Speaker 2: I'm almost certain they announced today that he's playing.

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Speaker 1: So here, here's where we could pivot. I just want

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Speaker 1: to give the pivots. So he got Swift at sixty

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Speaker 1: seven hundred, Kenneth Walker at sixty seven hundred, Pollard is

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Speaker 1: sixty six hundred. I don't mind Pollard there.

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Speaker 2: Oh he's scared.

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Speaker 1: I know he's I know he's been bad, but I

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Speaker 1: think I'd rather play doubdle. I think the Cowboys want

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Speaker 1: to try to like you want. Okay, we're got to

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Speaker 1: try to establish something here on the ground, and this

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Speaker 1: is the team. You can do that against a thirty

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Speaker 1: first against opposing learning arendis horrendous. Or we could pivot

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Speaker 1: to Bresee Hall at sixty four hundred. I don't hate that.

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Speaker 2: I don't think we're going to have to.

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Speaker 1: I don't think we do either, but I just want

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Speaker 1: to make sure that everybody knows. Yeah if something like,

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Speaker 1: you know, he tweaks his what what do you have

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Speaker 1: a hamstring? He tweaks it on the pregame warm ups. Hit.

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Speaker 2: lock it up, lock it in, lock it in. I

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Speaker 2: think it. Chan's up for a big game. Oh yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm psyched about it too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. The Raiders can't stop anybody running the ball.

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Speaker 2: Again.

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Speaker 1: That's Murray at Chan, Montgomery, Tank Dell, Christian Kirk, where

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Speaker 1: she Rice, Trey McBride, DJ Moore, and the Steelers defense.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that is a one where we're at.

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Speaker 1: helmet signed by Jaylen Warren. Our question today, Frank o'harris

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Speaker 1: or Le'Veon Bell? Most scrimmage yards in a Steelers game

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Speaker 1: against the Browns.

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Speaker 2: Bell much better receiver, much more offense in that era

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Speaker 2: of versus field. He's great.

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Speaker 1: I'm going lev I would lean towards Franco? But would

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Speaker 1: I would.

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Speaker 2: Lev was a yardage Machine.

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Speaker 1: Tomorrow's question, Georgia or Tennessee, which school? Which school has

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Speaker 1: produced the most Steeler draft picks.

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Speaker 2: I'll go to Georgia, but there's some serious recency bias there.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's not a bad guess.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And then finally on a Sunday's question will be Jayalen

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Speaker 1: Warren or Nauji Harris more rushing yards in the game

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Speaker 1: against the Browns on Sunday. You got that one as

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Speaker 1: well well.

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Speaker 2: I urge people to check out a little video that

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Speaker 2: R and the two of us did because we addressed

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Speaker 1: I said they would finish in a tie seventy five

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Speaker 1: yards each, so we could take that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that'd be great. Nobody can be.

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Speaker 1: Mad about seventy five yards each.

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Speaker 2: Seventy five yards each. Definitely take that.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely. One hundred and fifty rushing yards.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all over that.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, Let's take a look at this week's games in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. Remember we got four teams on the buy

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Speaker 1: this week. You got the three and seven Bears at

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Speaker 1: the seven and two Lions, Detroit favored by seven and

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Speaker 1: a half. The over under is forty seven and a half.

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Speaker 1: That's a big over under for this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, Fields is back the Bears. De's actually

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Speaker 2: quietly played quite well lately. Like, I think Detroit is

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Speaker 2: a much better team. But I wish that was under seven. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and divisional game, divisional game, Like, I think I might

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Speaker 2: take the points there the hook.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, seven and a half's a lot. The Lions are

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Speaker 1: five and zero against the spread against teams that currently

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Speaker 1: have losing records this.

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Speaker 2: Season, So they're beating up on the bad Yeah, they're

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Speaker 2: beating up on a bad team. They got squashed by

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Speaker 2: the Ravens. But yeah, you.

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Speaker 1: Got the four and five Chargers at the three and

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Speaker 1: six Packers. Uh, the Chargers favored by three, the over

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Speaker 1: unders forty three and a half. This one is loser,

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Speaker 1: go home.

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Speaker 2: I agree. I think I think Packers are already home.

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Speaker 1: I mean, but they're in the NF They're in the NFC.

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Speaker 1: If they get a win this week, they're right back

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Speaker 1: in it.

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Speaker 2: I was talking about this on the podcast today. I

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Speaker 2: don't trust either one of these teams as far as

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Speaker 2: I could throw them. I think they're may be the

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Speaker 2: two most disappointing teams in the league. Yeah, I guess

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Speaker 2: Bills and Bengals too, But I wouldn't touch this game,

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Speaker 2: so I would just take the points.

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Speaker 1: The Packers are one and five against the spread in

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Speaker 1: their past six games, and Unders are six and one

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Speaker 1: in the past seven Chargers games. How about that?

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Speaker 2: Really against the Lions, that's the only one.

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Speaker 1: That's the only one that's over, so it's last fight.

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Speaker 2: Has actually been pretty decent lately. That game aside.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, uh, you've got the five and five Raiders at

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Speaker 1: the six and three Dolphins, Miami favored by thirteen and

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Speaker 1: a half the over unders forty six and a half.

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Speaker 2: Such a big number, huge number. I think I'll still

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Speaker 2: take Miami.

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Speaker 1: They're another team that beats up on the bad.

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Speaker 2: Nay doo say, that's from my exact logic, and we

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Speaker 2: put their defense in well, almost put their defense in dfs.

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Speaker 2: I don't think that the Raiders put up any points.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think they do either, certainly not enough

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Speaker 1: to keep up with Miami.

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Speaker 2: No, I might take the under though. The Raiders all

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Speaker 2: up there, end of the bargain.

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Speaker 1: See, I think they will. They're gonna they'll lean on

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Speaker 1: a running game like Jacobs's.

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Speaker 2: Jacobs is going to get the ball twenty five times

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Speaker 2: they feature guys.

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Speaker 1: And I think he'll have some success, but not enough

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Speaker 1: to keep up with Are.

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Speaker 2: You laying the points in that one? No, that's a

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Speaker 2: big number though. I mean I wouldn't touch it with you.

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Speaker 1: I would just stay away.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Uh, you got the the two and eight Giants at

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Speaker 1: the four and six Commanders. Washington is favored by nine

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Speaker 1: and a half points, and yet the over runners only

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Speaker 1: thirty seven and a half.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't think that's close to enough. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I really think the Giants are that bad that I

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Speaker 2: if I was setting Giants lines in Vegas for my job,

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Speaker 2: I don't know that I could put the line high enough.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Washington they have a good offense. The Giants

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Speaker 2: are a disgrace.

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Speaker 1: They're a mess. Yeah, they're a mess. The Giants, although

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Speaker 1: Wink Martindale is their defensive coordinator, and he will he

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Speaker 1: will send the house at see him howe.

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Speaker 2: Oh, he will. He'll probably get a sacker two, maybe

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Speaker 2: a big play.

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Speaker 1: Maybe more than two.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the Commander.

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Speaker 1: The Giants are two seven and one against this bread

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Speaker 1: this season, including one in five on The.

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Speaker 2: Giants are yeah, yeah, I mean they're horrendous. If you

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Speaker 2: can't that spreads igh enough right now.

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Speaker 1: I'm surprised this one was actually this low. You got

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Speaker 1: the six and three Cowboys at the one in eight

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Speaker 1: Panthers Dallas favored by ten and a half. The over

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Speaker 1: unders forty two and a half.

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Speaker 2: That's another team like Miami that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they beat their forty beat up on the bad

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Speaker 1: teams and lose to the good ones.

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Speaker 2: Nobody gets open for the Panthers and they don't block anybody. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'd gladly put the points out of that one.

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Speaker 1: Road favorites of at least seven points are eight and

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Speaker 1: one against the spread this season. They're four and five

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Speaker 1: straight up. Okay, this is the second team that's been

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Speaker 1: a double digit Second time a team has been a

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Speaker 1: double digit road favorite. Uh. In Week three, the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: lost outright as an eleven point favorite in Arizona.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a strange one. I still think Dallas

586
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Speaker 2: destroys them. Yeah, I think Caroline's really really bad too.

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Speaker 1: You got the three and six Titans at the six

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Speaker 1: and three Jaguars coming off their by Jacksonville, favored by seven.

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Speaker 1: The over under is thirty nine and a half.

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Speaker 2: This morning, I saw it at seven and a half

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Speaker 2: and I took Tennessee. Now I think I'm gonna take Jacksonville.

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Speaker 2: I just say Vrabel keeps a close, but I wish

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Speaker 2: that half was there. Yeah, I think they win by

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Speaker 2: seven ish.

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Speaker 1: The Jaguars are four and one against the spread this season,

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Speaker 1: his favorite with three straight covers.

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Speaker 2: I think people were overreacting a little to a blowout lost.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think like five in a row before that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: pretty good. They're playing well. Yeah, the game we think

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Speaker 1: is going to be a shootout. The two and eight

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Speaker 1: Cardinals at the five and four Texans. Houston favored by

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Speaker 1: four and a half. The over under is forty eight

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Speaker 1: and a half. I's huge in today's.

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Speaker 2: Nfls and I still like the over I took you.

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Speaker 2: I like Houston in that game. I think there's been

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Speaker 2: a lot of points, but more by Houston.

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Speaker 1: Obviously, it wouldn't surprise me if the Cardinals came out

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Speaker 1: and won this game. Kyler just comes out and he

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Speaker 1: looks sharper throwing the football than he did the first

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Speaker 1: time around, and or to.

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Speaker 2: Look at that offense like that's okay. I think it's good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if so. The Cardinals are zero and four against

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Speaker 1: the spread. In their past four road games, own five

614
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Speaker 1: straight up one and four against the spread this season

615
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Speaker 1: on the road, but that was with Josh Dobbs and

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Speaker 1: Clayton Toon.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, game not a legitimate and I don't even love

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, but he's a legitimate NFL quarter.

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Speaker 2: He looks good in returning and I think Kyler with

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Speaker 2: Alt Kingsbury is exciting to me too.

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Speaker 1: You got the four and five Buccaneers points. Yeah, I'll

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Speaker 1: take the points there four and a half. H You

624
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Speaker 1: got the four and five Buccaneers at the six and

625
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Speaker 1: three forty nine Ers San Francisco favored by eleven and

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Speaker 1: a half, the over runners only forty one and a half.

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Speaker 2: Though, I'll take the Niners. Not that I'm even down

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Speaker 2: on the Bucks. I just think the Niners are rolling.

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Speaker 1: I'll take the over in that game too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think both of those teams can score.

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Speaker 2: I mean Evans and Godwin against those Corners. Yeah, you know, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Baker's not bad.

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Speaker 1: I don't understand why that over UNDERSTI that is low.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they really shut down the Jags. I

636
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Speaker 2: assume that's some of the thought process.

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Speaker 1: The forty nine Ers are thirteen and two against the

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Speaker 1: spread in their last fifteen games. Is a home favorite

639
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 1: ten and two against the spread at home since the

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Speaker 1: start of last season.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're awesome Juggernaut. Yeah, they really are at home,

642
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Speaker 2: especially at home too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you got the four and five Bills at the

644
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Speaker 1: five and five Jets. Buffalo favored by seven, the over

645
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Speaker 1: under thirty nine and a half. This is an elimination game.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I think you're'merson right. Division. So again, I think

647
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Speaker 2: the Bills have to win their division.

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Speaker 1: Yea Sion loss this will be a sixth conference loss

649
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Speaker 1: for the Bills. They'd be done. They couldn't win any

650
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 1: tie breakers. They they would essentially have to win their final.

651
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Speaker 1: They have to win out.

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Speaker 2: See. I feel like this game's either the Bills beat

653
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Speaker 2: them by a million or the Jets win, Like thirteen twelve.

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Speaker 2: I don't see thirteen twelve.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like the Jets won the first game in a

656
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Speaker 1: low scoring game, which tells like history shows that if

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Speaker 1: the first division game was a low scoring game, the

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Speaker 1: second won't be a high scoring game. Yeah, usually it

659
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Speaker 1: goes the opposite.

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Speaker 2: I don't think this is like a Raiders ding dong.

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Speaker 2: The witch is dead, you know, kick the coordinator out.

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Speaker 2: The door either. I don't think the Bills.

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Speaker 1: How about this little nugget though, the Bills are oh

664
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Speaker 1: and six against the spread in their past five games. Oh,

665
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Speaker 1: I know, yeah that I knew oh and five in

666
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 1: their past four as favorites and four against the spread

667
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Speaker 1: in their past three games at home. Those numbers don't add.

668
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Speaker 2: Up this episode.

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Speaker 1: I was trying to follow them, like I think they

670
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Speaker 1: I think they didn't update the game totals. They're o

671
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 1: and six in their past six games against the spread,

672
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Speaker 1: oh and four in their past and five in their

673
00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 1: past four games as a favorite.

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Speaker 2: Okay, they were dog in one of the last and four.

675
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 1: In their last three games at home against.

676
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Speaker 2: The I guess that all works, it does that, okay.

677
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 1: But they did. That's not what they had here. They

678
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:10,959
Speaker 1: had five games, four games and three games. Even though

679
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 1: the numbers was somebody and change their numbers.

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Speaker 2: Gotcha, who do you got in that one? I'm gonna

681
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 2: take Buffalo.

682
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 1: What was the points?

683
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Speaker 2: Seven?

684
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 1: I'll take the seven.

685
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 2: That's a lot.

686
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 1: I'll take the seven.

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00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 2: Okay. I don't feel good about that one. There's games

688
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 2: I would bet before that, for sure.

689
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 1: You got the six and three Seahawks at the three

690
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 1: and six Rams.

691
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 2: So the Rams are the rock and they're the scissors.

692
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, Seattle's favored by one here on the road, the

693
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Speaker 1: over unders forty six and a half.

694
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Speaker 2: I like the Rams coming off of bye. Give McVeigh

695
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 2: two weeks for a common opponents Stafford Healthy. I like

696
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 2: the Rams in that game.

697
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 1: I kind of do too. You know, the Seahawks defense

698
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 1: has allowed the most rushing yards per game one hundred

699
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 1: and seventy three point seven over the last three games

700
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 1: three weeks this season. Seattle is allowed the fifth most

701
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 1: fantasy points per game to running backs. Daryl Henderson.

702
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 2: Henderson's the league guy right now.

703
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:08,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, we should have maybe we should have looked at

704
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 1: that one. The Rams have covered in six straight meetings

705
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 1: between these two teams, including a playoff game.

706
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 2: I said, that's that rock paper scissors division, and this

707
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 2: is the one that favors the Rams absolutely.

708
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 1: The night game on Sunday, we got the six and

709
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 1: four Vikings at the four and five Broncos. Denver is

710
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 1: favored by two and a half. Defense come along with

711
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 1: the over under is forty two and a half.

712
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 2: Have they won four in a row? Denver? I think

713
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 2: so Vikes have won.

714
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: Five in a row. Yeah, and they've beaten Kansas City

715
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 1: and Buffalo in that stretch, so two hot teams.

716
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 2: To be a kind of a fun one. I don't

717
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 2: think the Vikes Jefferson returns, I mean gets certained, but

718
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 2: I mean I'm not one hundred percent sold on Dobbs.

719
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 2: I'm rooting for them, but yeah.

720
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't trust Dobbs and.

721
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 2: That's well from the quarterback advantage.

722
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 1: The Vikings are also four zero and one against the

723
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 1: spread on the road this season.

724
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Speaker 2: I'm kind of just excited to watch that one. I

725
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 2: think it's gonna be a close game.

726
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: He'll be a good game.

727
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:11,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I really do vikesh.

728
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 1: And then the big match up on Monday night Super

729
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 1: Bowl rematch the eight to one Eagles at the seven

730
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,479
Speaker 1: and two Chiefs, Kansas City favored by two and a half,

731
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 1: the over under forty five and a half.

732
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:30,959
Speaker 2: I don't take the Eagles just because I went to points.

733
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,959
Speaker 2: I don't know if they win. I'm not sold on

734
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 2: the Chiefs offense, but I expect it to be better.

735
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 1: Out of the buy on the Chiefs defense.

736
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 2: I'm sold on the Chiefs defense. I do think the

737
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 2: Eagles offense is very legit it's gonna be a really

738
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 2: good game.

739
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, here's a little betting in a little nugg fantasy

740
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 1: nugget here. The Eagles give up the most fantasy points

741
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 1: per game to the wide receiver. He leads the Chiefs

742
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 1: in both targets and receiving yards. He's their top receiver.

743
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 1: That's why he's in our fantasy lineup. Yeah, yeah, I

744
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 1: mean he could feast in this game. I like the

745
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 1: Chiefs at home. That's a tough place to go play.

746
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 2: Two and a half was a little more than I expected, though.

747
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 2: I thought it would be like one. I mean, I

748
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 2: know we're splitting hairs here, but it's under.

749
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 1: Well, I like it under three. You know under three

750
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,399
Speaker 1: is again I'll go with the home team in this game.

751
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 1: Do we really do we think the Eagles are going

752
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 1: to go to nine and one and beat the Chiefs.

753
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 1: They haven't played great, neither one of like, both of

754
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 1: these teams have not looked like, oh they're you know,

755
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 1: super Bowl favorites here, right, but they are.

756
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, teams are losing quarterbacks and in the meantime and

757
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 2: they're just kind of chilling. I will say, whoever wins

758
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 2: this game, that quarterback is probably the favorite for MVP.

759
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 2: Now I would say so, yeah, in the way that

760
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 2: the last week or two has gone for Lamarborough.

761
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 1: Allen, you know, yeah, I'll take I'll take my homes

762
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 1: at home.

763
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 2: I don't blame me. I don't feel strong about my

764
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 2: Eagles pick, but I'm just gonna take the team's cup points.

765
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hear I hear you. So that's this week's

766
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:59,280
Speaker 1: slate of games. We haven't given our final prediction on

767
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 1: what we think happens in Steelers Browns. Will do that

768
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 1: when we return. He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lollie.

769
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 1: You're listening to the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back.

770
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 1: I'm Dale Lalli. He is the Matt Williamson and Matt

771
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,360
Speaker 1: it is that time of the show and time of

772
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 1: the week where we make our prediction on the Steeler game.

773
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 1: And uh, you want to get first? You want me

774
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 1: to go.

775
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 2: Earlier in the show, you actually said to my score.

776
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 2: You may not remember this when we were talking like

777
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 2: over unders and things.

778
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 1: Well, it's probably my score because it's the same score

779
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 1: I was picking.

780
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 2: Well, you said two scores.

781
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 1: I said two scores. One of the ones, one of

782
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 1: the ones that.

783
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 2: I was three, two, one sixteen.

784
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of field goals in this game. And

785
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 1: that's fine. Field goals are fine. The Steelers are actually

786
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 1: fourth in the NFL in red zone defense in terms

787
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:57,319
Speaker 1: of percentage, and the Browns are bad at Yeah.

788
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 2: People don't get the red zone very often against them.

789
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 1: But when they do, they score touchdowns. Yeah. I think

790
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 1: they make they make the rookie make some mistakes here.

791
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 1: If you look at it, the Steelers run defense to pass.

792
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,919
Speaker 1: The three games, They've alloted one hundred and nine rushing

793
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 1: yards per game over those three games four point one

794
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,760
Speaker 1: yards per carry. It was four point five for the season.

795
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 1: So people are looking at as well as Steelers can't

796
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 1: stop the run. They're looking at the overall numbers instead

797
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:27,359
Speaker 1: of what it's been lately. And that's that's where the mistakes. Yeah,

798
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: that's where mistakes are made. Last three games for the Browns,

799
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 1: they've averaged three point eight yards per carry.

800
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, they get stuck behind the line of scrimmage a lot.

801
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 1: Jerome Ford leads the NFL with twenty of his carries

802
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 1: go for a loss.

803
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 2: For a loss, And I think there'll be a lot

804
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 2: of TFLs in this game.

805
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. And if you can do that. If you can

806
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 1: do that, now you're allowing t J. Watt and Cam

807
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 1: Hayward and Alex Highsmith to hunt. And if they're able

808
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 1: to hunt against Dorian Thompson Robinson, he's in trouble.

809
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 2: Jones is playing or not. But I don't really care.

810
00:36:58,200 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 1: Well, I have the injury report here, so we mn

811
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 1: as well get to that here real quick at the

812
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 1: final and you're looking at it.

813
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:06,879
Speaker 2: My biggest discrepancy is, I don't even care if it's

814
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 2: the Steelers who are great at taking the ball away.

815
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 2: I'm just trusting the Browns to give it away, Yeah,

816
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 2: because they and in this type of game at least

817
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 2: Watson could maybe overcome Overcutt and such things. But the

818
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 2: Browns going forward cannot be a turnover heavy team. They

819
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 2: have been up till now, and I just think that's

820
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 2: a problem for them. For the Steelers.

821
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 1: Make a Fitzpatrick not playing in this game, Montrevius Adam's

822
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 1: not playing in this game, Kean O'Neill not playing.

823
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 2: That, I don't love that. So he's a great player.

824
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,879
Speaker 1: But Trenton Thompson will be their replacement there.

825
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 2: I was just thinking Neil more of a linebacker.

826
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, Pat Fryarmouth is questionable, but we expect him to

827
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: expect him to play. Yeah. On the Browns side of things,

828
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 1: you got to get down to there. Okay. So Jan

829
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 1: Thornhill is out.

830
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 2: It's not shocking, but it's substantial. He's good.

831
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:02,839
Speaker 1: Marque's good one is out.

832
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, their depth receivers on him do anything.

833
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, Michael Dunn is questionable day one. Jones is questionable.

834
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 1: He was limited in practice each of the last two days.

835
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 1: What that means for them, I don't know. You know,

836
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:17,760
Speaker 1: it is a knee injury.

837
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:19,919
Speaker 2: I'm say if it's lower body, that would worry me more.

838
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, just because he's so big. Yeah, all you need

839
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:24,399
Speaker 1: is him big tree fall down.

840
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just dealing with Wat's quickness. Yeah, he's a

841
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,399
Speaker 2: little compromise. Well, he's gonna be at least a little

842
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 2: at least a little bit out there. Yeah.

843
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, so.

844
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 2: That's it. Then that's it for both Jones and Thornhill

845
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 2: were the ones I was most concerned about.

846
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh so, you know, I just think that the

847
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 1: Steelers will run the ball enough and effectively enough, and

848
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 1: they'll get enough tackles for a loss. Again, if the

849
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 1: Browns get three or four yards on a run. That's

850
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:52,879
Speaker 1: a win.

851
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't give up.

852
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't give up the big chunk runs. Oh I don't.

853
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 2: I kind of think of the offense. He gets three

854
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 2: or four on the ground's winning this game.

855
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't want them flipping the field on

856
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 1: you know, a twenty yard run or a twenty five

857
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 1: yard Don't let that happen.

858
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 2: We did mention with Forod he gets stuck behind the

859
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 2: line of scrimmage a lot. But he also can break

860
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 2: some big ones too.

861
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's he has that capability, So don't allow a

862
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 1: bunch of that.

863
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:15,760
Speaker 2: He's a little boom er bus.

864
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 1: Don't allow Thompson Robinson to beat you with his legs.

865
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 1: Be prepared for crazy stuff like the wildcat, and I

866
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 1: just expect that it.

867
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 2: Could be a surprise on side or something like that too.

868
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 1: Expect something out of the norm because they know that

869
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 1: they're compromised a quarterback, you expect. And then the great

870
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 1: thing about this is for the Steelers is that Mike

871
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: Tomlin has done this before. He knows what. Yeah, yes,

872
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 1: I know what do I know? You know? I know

873
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 1: what to expect in the situation like this, So we're

874
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:47,800
Speaker 1: gonna be prepared for everything.

875
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 2: So like I use this analogy sometimes, like Brady is

876
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 2: very content death by a thousand paper cutting you. But

877
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 2: that comes with agent experience, you know, like Mahomes got

878
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:01,720
Speaker 2: that ahead of schedule. But it's hard to be patient

879
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 2: and take Oh you're gonna be four yards, I'll take

880
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 2: four over and over and over.

881
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 1: Yeah.

882
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 2: I think Tomlin's the same way, where I know this

883
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 2: game for sixty minutes. I have to be disciplined, punt

884
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 2: run on third and two, don't get crazy, and I'm

885
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 2: not going to sneak outside my norm two or three

886
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 2: times where I don't know that Stefanski, will you know

887
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 2: what I mean?

888
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, I think the thing you remember

889
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 1: in this in a game like this is that when

890
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 1: you have the opportunity, you can't pass on the opportunities

891
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 1: to get the chunk plays.

892
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:38,360
Speaker 2: If you're the Steelers, Oh yeah.

893
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 1: It can't just be well, I'm just going to get

894
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 1: the first down that you want to do that you

895
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 1: want to keep getting the first downs.

896
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 2: I mean, I definitely want to see a shot to

897
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 2: Pickens if you're seeing one on one. Yeah, you know

898
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 2: that type of thing.

899
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,400
Speaker 1: But I'm just looking here. I know the Browns have

900
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 1: given up two seventy yard plush passing plays this year,

901
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 1: one of which the Pickens right, one of which came

902
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:00,839
Speaker 1: to George Pickens. If I see George and singled up

903
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 1: one on one.

904
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, take that chance, single high with pressman coverage. Okay,

905
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 2: we'll go there.

906
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:07,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, take that chance.

907
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:11,799
Speaker 2: Because I do trust Kenny not to throw picks. Yeah right,

908
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 2: I don't know if he's hit the big play, but

909
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:13,839
Speaker 2: I trust him.

910
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 1: Put the ball where Pickings, you know, can catch it.

911
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 2: Yeah.

912
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: You gotta remember the Steelers didn't have Deontay Johnson the

913
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,280
Speaker 1: first time around when they played these guys or Hayward

914
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 1: right or Hayward either one. That was their first game

915
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 1: without those two players. So that's that's kind of a

916
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 1: big deal.

917
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:31,320
Speaker 2: And I mean, Johnson and pickings against the secondaries a

918
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 2: wash to me. Oh my god, we can't go throw

919
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 2: the ball.

920
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 1: So if you get picks on hundred and twenty seven

921
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 1: receiving yards against them the first time around, that's the

922
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 1: most they've allowed to anybody.

923
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, so it was a big one.

924
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't need to I mean, but he so

925
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 1: even with the seventy yard he had three catches for

926
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 1: fifty yards on the other ones, get those chunk plays. Yeah,

927
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,800
Speaker 1: let Deontay move the move the sticks on some of

928
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 1: the shorter stuff and and uh, you should be okay,

929
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 1: run the football, stay on stay on schedule with that.

930
00:41:58,360 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

931
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:02,839
Speaker 1: Uh, and stop them from running the ball again consistently.

932
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,360
Speaker 1: If they get four yards, four yards, four yards and

933
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 1: they get a first down, it's not the end of

934
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 1: the world.

935
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter.

936
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:08,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, get them the next time.

937
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. I just think when it comes down to it,

938
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,439
Speaker 2: the team that wins the turnover battle wins this game.

939
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 2: And I trust the Steelers much more in how this

940
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 2: game scripts out on Friday to win the turnover battle. Yeah.

941
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 1: No, I do too. I mean, this is a team

942
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 1: that will turn the football over.

943
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's surprised me. The Steelers aren't favored at this point. Yeah.

944
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:30,359
Speaker 1: I'm kind of surprised with that too.

945
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 2: I mean, I know it's in their building, but it's

946
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 2: not like Cam and those guys have never been in Cleveland.

947
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:40,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's just again, rookie the Mike Tomlin rookie

948
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:42,320
Speaker 1: quarterback stuff is real.

949
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:44,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, they'll do things to make him.

950
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 1: Twenty four and five is real. Make him uncomfortable again.

951
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 1: If TJ. Watt and Alex high Smith and whoever else.

952
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 1: If the Steelers have six tackles for a loss in

953
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:57,399
Speaker 1: this game, oh fine, they win the game.

954
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 2: Yeah right right. If Dtrs half is loose with the

955
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,280
Speaker 2: football as he was his first start, half is loose,

956
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:04,359
Speaker 2: they're gonna lose.

957
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 1: Yeah.

958
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:07,319
Speaker 2: You can't do that in a game like this.

959
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 1: No, And you could try to. You can coach it

960
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:11,439
Speaker 1: at try to coach it out of them all week long.

961
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 2: Sure, but he doesn't know he's doing it.

962
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 1: When he gets out there, and then the juices are

963
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 1: flowing and he said, I'm gonna let that rip.

964
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 2: I'm under pressure, I'm gonna fly. Right.

965
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 1: It's a second career start.

966
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:22,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, the second career story. It's a mid round pick.

967
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 2: I mean he's it doesn't usually go well.

968
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:28,320
Speaker 1: Yeah again and the one, the one again. The Steelers

969
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 1: six and one against the Browns with rookie quarterbacks starting.

970
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 1: The Steelers, on the other hand, are two and oh

971
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:36,879
Speaker 1: against the Browns with rookie quarterbacks start.

972
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's funny.

973
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 1: So you know, one team knows how to win these

974
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 1: kind of games and the other team does not.

975
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 2: I just know Tomlin does. Yeah, I mean those stats

976
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:49,359
Speaker 2: are great, But Brandon Whedon years don't influence me that much.

977
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,799
Speaker 2: I mean, the natures of the franchises I think is

978
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 2: very relevant here. And the head coach knows exactly what

979
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 2: game he's getting into here.

980
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Steelers and the Steelers over the they they've

981
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 1: kept Miles Garrett from wrecking the game.

982
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 2: And if the series can run the ball some, I

983
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 2: mean they don't run the ball at all in the

984
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 2: first game. If they run the ball some, which I'll

985
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 2: be shocked if they don't.

986
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 1: That is that's one of the ways that they do

987
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 1: can kind of control Garrett a little bit. They're not

988
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 1: afraid to run at him.

989
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:21,320
Speaker 2: No, they definitely will. They definitely will. And he's obviously

990
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:22,359
Speaker 2: better us pass than the run.

991
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 1: I'll say this about Garrett though, I noticed just watching

992
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 1: him on tape. It used to be when you did try,

993
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 1: when you did run a play away from him on

994
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 1: the running play, Yeah, he wouldn't chase it all that hard.

995
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 2: No, I think he's got as he's a little.

996
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 1: More fire to a little more fire to him. I

997
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 1: don't know if Swartz talked to him and said, hey, look,

998
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 1: if you want to be Defensive Player of the Year,

999
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 1: you can't take plays off. He doesn't take the plays

1000
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 1: off like he used to.

1001
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 2: We haven't talked a lot of Schwartz this week, and

1002
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 2: I guess their last opportunity. But it's kind of like

1003
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 2: well known that players adore this guy and like he

1004
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 2: wants them to sell it. He's like, go practice your celebrations,

1005
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 2: you know, like he kind of has an odd coaching style,

1006
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:03,839
Speaker 2: and in turn, the effort is tremendous. Yeah, I mean,

1007
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 2: and so I think you're seeing that.

1008
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:06,879
Speaker 1: You can see the effort from Garrett this year more

1009
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:08,439
Speaker 1: so than you know. That was one of my big

1010
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: knocks on him. As you see him get the plays

1011
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 1: run to the other side, he would just kind of

1012
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 1: jogged down the line. Yeah, Now he doesn't do that.

1013
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 2: No, I mean, they're they're full go all the time

1014
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 2: led by him.

1015
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,720
Speaker 1: Now, yeah, but they're playing fewer snaps too, so yeah.

1016
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 2: Fresh, they stay fresh. That's a good formula for them.

1017
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely so. But we both think the Steelers win

1018
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 1: sixteen thirteen. Yeah, not the most exciting game in the world,

1019
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 1: but yeah, just take care of business.

1020
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 2: So side note, Andrews comes back with a cracked fibula

1021
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 2: and an ankle ligament injury. A double injury. That's you

1022
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 2: hate to see it, but yeah, that's bad Burrow and

1023
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 2: Andrew's birth or rough night.

1024
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:49,240
Speaker 1: And you know as soon as that stuff started happening,

1025
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:52,360
Speaker 1: See these Thursday night games are They're just dangerous. That

1026
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 1: had nothing to do with it. Could have happened on

1027
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 1: a Sunday game, would have happened on a Saturday. They're

1028
00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 1: football injuries. These weren't hamstring injuries things of that nature

1029
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 1: that were overused.

1030
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 2: I do think Thursday games are going to be.

1031
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:09,879
Speaker 1: Interesting to see what the league does about that. They

1032
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 1: had to know about it, they had to I had

1033
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 1: to know about it. Yeah, that's going to do it

1034
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 1: for our show today. We'll be back on Monday to see,

1035
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 1: well if we were right, and well where the Steelers

1036
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:20,359
Speaker 1: are going?

1037
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:21,879
Speaker 2: Are they seven and three or are they six and four?

1038
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 1: Big weekend, big big weekend, the biggest weekend in really

1039
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:27,800
Speaker 1: big now and I said it was a big weekend

1040
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 1: in the AFC North, maybe the biggest ever. Little did

1041
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 1: I know.

1042
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:33,280
Speaker 2: The season? Yeah?

1043
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, who knew. But that's going to do it for

1044
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 1: our show today. So for my partner Matt Williamson, for

1045
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 1: Justin Miller here on site, keeping us on the air,

1046
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,319
Speaker 1: I'm Dale Lelly. We thank you for listening to this

1047
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Speaker 1: edition of the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio.