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Speaker 1: Great move to the right at the fifth, he comes

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Speaker 1: up and make a play a one hit. Oh my goodness,

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Speaker 1: he got crushed. You've gotta be Kidney. Come off the

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Speaker 1: ball with malice. Here's Paul Calvc. In football, they call

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Speaker 1: it a tell. Now right out of the gates here, gentlemen,

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Speaker 1: long snapper. Well, we don't get that this year. We

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Speaker 1: just don't get that because you know, in another tragic

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Speaker 1: not the last unanswered question and the longest intro ever

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Speaker 1: to Cardinal's underground goal. Either one of those can be

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Speaker 1: the tell of the season to come. But obviously the

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Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins the agent got DeAndre Hopkins the player a

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Speaker 1: the day, Darren Rbert, go ahead, and translate that this

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Speaker 1: it was coming straight from DeAndre, maybe there would be

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Speaker 1: There was some Andrew Whitworth votes, but every guy that

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Speaker 1: I pulled, and there were about seven or eight offensive

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Speaker 1: lineman all put Trent Williams in there. So if he's

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Speaker 1: back Darren to that sort of caliber, this will be

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Speaker 1: a marquee matchup. Well, first of all, were they playing

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Speaker 1: Washington that week? I mean, wasn't Forefront or remember, I

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Speaker 1: don't know they're playing. Might have been when they were

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Speaker 1: playing Dallas a few years That makes sense. Yeah, that

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Speaker 1: makes more sense. I just I would hate for you

437
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Speaker 1: to skew the poll that way by by having recency bias. Um. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: Trent Williams is a good player. I certainly this is

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Speaker 1: a marquee matchup, and I would argue that you know

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Speaker 1: Chandler Jones when we talk about we were sitting here

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Speaker 1: talking about why the Cardinals needed Vandre Campbell and and

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Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons in large part because of George Kittle. I

443
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Speaker 1: mean that works the other way too. I mean, the

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Speaker 1: forty nine ers wanted to upgrade at left tackle. They

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Speaker 1: didn't know what was going to happen Joe Staley retires. Um,

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Speaker 1: you got Chandler Jones in your division, probably more so

447
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Speaker 1: than anybody's Seattle or the Rams are going to march

448
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Speaker 1: out there these days. You need to worry about Chandler

449
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Speaker 1: Jones coming off the edge twice a year, and hey,

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Speaker 1: let's go get Trent Williams. So I mean, I guess

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Speaker 1: we're gonna see the one thing. And he allegedly reportedly

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Speaker 1: has looked really good in camp. He's looked good against

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Speaker 1: Nick Bosa, and that's great. Um, I anything that happens

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Speaker 1: in camp, especially when there's no preseason games in this camp,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to take with a grain of salt, just

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Speaker 1: because you don't know how that's going to translate into

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Speaker 1: actual real football. But we'll see how that goes. Still,

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Speaker 1: I still like what Chandler Jones is. And again whether

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Speaker 1: he gets a sack or two in this game, if

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Speaker 1: he's able to rush, come off the edge and make

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Speaker 1: Jimmy g feel him over there. And again, if you

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Speaker 1: get Jordan Phillips pushing the pocket a little bit, that

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Speaker 1: could be enough to let a defensive backfield with Draker

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Speaker 1: Patrick and a Patrick Peterson, etc. Maybe do some things.

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Speaker 1: Maybe Boodha gets his first interception. You never know, well,

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Speaker 1: And speaking of Pat Pee, typically that's where we start

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Speaker 1: with every defensive game plan. But do you think the

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Speaker 1: Niners receiving outfit right now would merit Pat Pe traveling

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Speaker 1: and shadowing a guy for the entirety of this game. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think that's would be a surprise. You think back

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Speaker 1: to last year and Manuel Sanders did a tremendous job.

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Speaker 1: He won that matchup against Patrick Peterson, specifically the one

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Speaker 1: in Arizona. But he's gone left in free agency and

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Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel, like Darren talked about, we'll see if he

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Speaker 1: plays dealing with an injury, so they have some issues

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Speaker 1: at wide receiver and if there's not a star. Even

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Speaker 1: with Bruce Arians and Todd Bowles when they were here,

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Speaker 1: Patrick Peterson sometimes would not travel if the other team

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Speaker 1: didn't have a legit number one, and Brandon Aiyuk is

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Speaker 1: still a rookie, even though a highly regarded one. So

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Speaker 1: I think defensively it's easier on everybody. Mentally, when Patrick

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Speaker 1: Peterson just plays one side of the field, I think

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Speaker 1: you can understand where your coverage is gonna shift. And

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Speaker 1: for a guy like Drake Kirkpatrick who's new in this defense,

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Speaker 1: for Biyer Murphy who's only in a second season, if

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Speaker 1: they have a better idea of where they're going to be,

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Speaker 1: it's probably easier on them. So my belief would be

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Speaker 1: he doesn't shadow anybody in the opener. So I grew

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Speaker 1: up in the Silicon Valley, right and all my buddies

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Speaker 1: are hardcore Niner fans. And last year the NFC Championship time,

491
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Speaker 1: these guys are texting me relentlessly, what's our weakness? You

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Speaker 1: tell me our weakness? As they went into the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: they're all full of the forty nine ers. Now I'm

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Speaker 1: getting a lot of texts this week from all these

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Speaker 1: nine nation guys. What are you guys planning with Isaiah Simmons?

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Speaker 1: Even the fans are wondering. So if the fans are wondering,

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Speaker 1: I mean, what do you think, Darren, the Niners are

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Speaker 1: thinking with Isaiah Simmons, and to what degree good? Oh,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. He'd be a bigger or more exotic

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Speaker 1: part of the game plan than anyone anticipates. You know, again,

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to rule anything out at this point,

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Speaker 1: and certainly Isaiah Simmons has got the raw tools to

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Speaker 1: do some of those things, and eventually he may do that.

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Speaker 1: But I will say that he hasn't had an offseason.

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Speaker 1: He got no preseason games we've had. Vance Joseph said

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Speaker 1: a couple of times that I would tend to agree

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Speaker 1: seeing seeing some of the couple of things that I

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Speaker 1: saw on training camp. When Vance Joseph says, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I can't speak to what Isaiah Simmons is like in

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Speaker 1: a meeting, and Vans Josh says, they all say he

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Speaker 1: picks it up super quick, all that stuff, But then

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Speaker 1: he gets out of the field and he becomes a

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Speaker 1: little bit more of an okay player, which tells you

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Speaker 1: that he's got to get used to the speed of

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Speaker 1: the game. And there have been a couple of times

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Speaker 1: that I noticed that he did look like he's still

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Speaker 1: got some a learning curve and there's nothing wrong with that.

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Speaker 1: He's a rookie. I don't care where you're drafted, and

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Speaker 1: so all that factored in. Paul, I just I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how you know. We can talk. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure on the offensive side of the ball, there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of different things that Cliff Kingsbury can unveil him

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Speaker 1: this game, or what Kyler Murray might be able to

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Speaker 1: do because he's got a year in on the defensive

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Speaker 1: side of the ball. When it comes to your number one,

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Speaker 1: your number one draft pick, I just I think you're

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Speaker 1: gonna want to be selective because you might have some

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Speaker 1: big ideas for what he wants to do. But as

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Speaker 1: we saw it with Brandon Williams against the Patriots in

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Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, all it takes is one play to derail

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Speaker 1: a game. And you don't want Isaiah Simmons to have

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Speaker 1: that one play against George Kittle where you try to

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Speaker 1: get a little tricky or whatever you did with Isaiah

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Speaker 1: Simmons and haven't cost you a touchdown, it lose by

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Speaker 1: four points. That would be that would be not a

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Speaker 1: fun thing to go through. And according to Bruce Arians,

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Speaker 1: that derailed this season and that was his opinion by

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Speaker 1: the end of that season, which, yeah, which it tells you, Okay, well,

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Speaker 1: you know what, by the end of the game, Kyle,

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Speaker 1: based on everything we've seen and heard, if we were

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Speaker 1: to say the standout rookie for the Cardinals on defense

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Speaker 1: was number ninety two, Rashard Lawrence, I would not be surprised,

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Speaker 1: not based on what we've heard and seen so far.

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Speaker 1: I'm definitely gonna have in half an eye on number

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Speaker 1: ninety two the LSU rookie when he comes into the game,

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Speaker 1: just based on what we've seen in August. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: that says a lot about Rashard Lawrence that that's even

548
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Speaker 1: a plausible scenario because obviously Isaiah Simmons came into camp

549
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Speaker 1: call the hype and Lucky Foe two was taken before

550
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Speaker 1: Richard Lawrence in the fourth round and they played the

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Speaker 1: same position, so they had, you know, Foe two rated

552
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Speaker 1: higher as a defensive lineman. But I agree with you

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Speaker 1: that Lawrence has been a guy that has been spoken

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Speaker 1: highly of by Cliff Kingsbury and others. Jordan Phillips said

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Speaker 1: he was surprised that he lasted into the fourth round

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Speaker 1: and that would be big. I mean, the Cardinals need

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Speaker 1: depth and need some playmakers on the defensive line. You've

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Speaker 1: got Phillips and you've got Corey Peters. Besides that, some

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Speaker 1: guys without much experience. So I think Richard Lawrence, if

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Speaker 1: he can become that guy and give them a nice

561
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Speaker 1: lift early on, it might be more in flashes. I

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Speaker 1: don't think he's gonna play fifty percent of the time,

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Speaker 1: but if he stands out in that twenty to twenty

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Speaker 1: five percent block, that really is good. Is a good

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Speaker 1: thing for his future. I mean, you look at the

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Speaker 1: decision makers on either side of the ball vance Joseph

567
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Speaker 1: does he now have those two corners? Everybody now, because

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Speaker 1: we've heard this for an entire year. If he has

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Speaker 1: those two corners, he can run the defense the way

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Speaker 1: he wants to. Are the Cardinals at that point is

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Speaker 1: Drake Kirkpatrick? That guy? Is Patrick Peterson? That guy again?

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Speaker 1: Because you know where you're going against. Kyle shann one

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Speaker 1: of the best play callers and most innovative guys in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. Defensive players rave about Kyle Shanahan keeping a

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Speaker 1: defense honest. And then you have Cliff Kingsbury with the

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Speaker 1: entire offseason watching XFL film guys right, So so Darren,

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Speaker 1: there could be a lot of innovation on that field

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Speaker 1: when it comes to the old laminated play sheet. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I would I would say that if you're going

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Speaker 1: to spring it on people, let's let's do it week one,

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Speaker 1: when nobody knows what's happened all through the preseason, no

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Speaker 1: one let anything out during training camp, this would be

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Speaker 1: the time. Although again you've got to be smart. It's

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Speaker 1: it's one thing to call it on paper, it's another

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Speaker 1: thing to have guys execute that in the games. And

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Speaker 1: you don't want to get too cute and mess something

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Speaker 1: up because you think this is a good time to

588
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Speaker 1: spring that trick play on you. And it was interesting

589
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Speaker 1: to hear Kyler Murray this week talk about, you know,

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Speaker 1: talk about being able to rep all these reps so

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Speaker 1: many times and out comfortable he's in the offense doing that.

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Speaker 1: You know they've got it. They've got a bunch of

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Speaker 1: plays that they have done a million times. Do those plays?

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Speaker 1: Those are the plays that are going to get you

595
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Speaker 1: ultimately the victory. I remember we were debuting a brand

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Speaker 1: new show back in the day Fox Sportsnet, and my

597
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 1: boss looked at me and he said, he said, so

598
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Speaker 1: what's your approach. You're gonna keep it simple, I said, so, Boss,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna take out my three wood on the first team,

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Speaker 1: just gonna hit it right down the middle. He looked

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Speaker 1: at me, he goes, make it a five. Make it

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Speaker 1: a five wood, play it really safe, So I would

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Speaker 1: not be surprised. I'll never forget that. I ended up

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Speaker 1: being like VP of Fox Sports by the way. He

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Speaker 1: was sharp, and I never forget that advice. And I

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Speaker 1: think to a certain degree, Kyle Cliff Kingsbury might have

607
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Speaker 1: learned that lesson a year ago. It's a lesson Ken

608
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Speaker 1: wissen Un learned in his first game as Cardinals head

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Speaker 1: coach at the Niners Once upon a Time. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think he learned that lesson. A lot of the big

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Speaker 1: drives last year in that first game did not work

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Speaker 1: at all. It was a lot of non fairway more

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Speaker 1: into the trees and the bunker. So I think he

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Speaker 1: understands that. But Cliff Kingsbury is a guy who he

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Speaker 1: likes to take his shots and he likes his creativity.

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Speaker 1: So I think he's got some stuff up his sleeve,

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Speaker 1: and he has a better sense of when he should

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Speaker 1: use it and when he shouldn't. But I think we're

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Speaker 1: going to see some trickery. We've seen it in the

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Speaker 1: past few games of the regular season when things were rolling,

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Speaker 1: and I expect him to be creative. Well, Cliff Kingsbury said,

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Speaker 1: if he wasn't a football coach, he'd beyond Wall Street.

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Speaker 1: So what does the stock market hate? Uncertainty the unknown.

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Speaker 1: That's what football coaches hate as well, if they don't

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Speaker 1: know what's coming, if it's not on film. So it'll

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Speaker 1: be curious to see how both sides react in this opener.

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Speaker 1: And if I'm in a high school coach, if I'm

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Speaker 1: a college coach, this this is a play callers play

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Speaker 1: callers game. You know you know what I mean, Darren,

630
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Speaker 1: when you got Kyle Shanahan and then Cliff Kingsbury and

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Speaker 1: the way the Cardinals rushing attack in ball advanced. Joseph

632
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 1: called the Cardinals rushing attack sophisticated earlier this offseason because

633
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Speaker 1: they incorporate different methods. A lot of teams will just

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Speaker 1: have one style of run, and obviously the Cardinals have,

635
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Speaker 1: you know, involved a few otherwise I think they're gonna

636
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Speaker 1: be pulling more than ever now with Mason Cole is

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Speaker 1: a mobility and you know, getting those guys out into

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Speaker 1: space and then who knows from there. I just I'm

639
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Speaker 1: very curious whether it's the Russian attack or just the

640
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Speaker 1: X's and ows how daring both guys will get since

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Speaker 1: they've had so much time to scheme up in the offseason.

642
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 1: I think that's a very fair point to ask, and

643
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 1: it could make for a lot of interesting times, especially

644
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 1: in the first quarter the first half. I do think

645
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 1: you probably settle into something in the second half, depending

646
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 1: on how the game goes. But those first those first

647
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 1: couple of possessions for each team that I'm expecting anything,

648
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 1: because I do think that both these guys not only

649
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 1: have had a chance to think about it, but I

650
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 1: think they relish the idea of pulling something out of

651
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 1: nowhere and trying to surprise the other team. And I

652
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 1: am fully expecting that first quarter to be potentially have

653
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 1: some fireworks. Now, the question is is how much have

654
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 1: you been then they've been able to practice and execute it,

655
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 1: And that is part of it, is that you don't

656
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 1: want to get so creative and fancy that the guys

657
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 1: aren't prepared yet to execute something like that, and then

658
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 1: it's just a wasted opportunity. All right, So, speaking of

659
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury, Kyle put a graphic up in the team

660
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 1: meeting apparently this week. Kenyan Drake hinted as much. Cliff

661
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 1: Kingsbury confirmed he put up a graphic the Cardinals season opener.

662
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 1: Since twenty sixteen, a combined win loss record of three

663
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: to twelve and one. Now, there are different mitigating factors,

664
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 1: including brand new head coaches to the NFL the last

665
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 1: two years, but the Cardinals, Yes, and you're right, Darren,

666
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 1: that that is a big deal. There's no doubt about it.

667
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 1: The other Andy Darren's point moments ago. You know, there

668
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 1: is always a potential to confuse yourself. Ken Wisenot did

669
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 1: it once upon a time in his very first game

670
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 1: at San Francisco and Monday right. Too much in the

671
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 1: game play, just flat out too much. I'm trying to impress.

672
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 1: So I wonder to what degree Cliff Kingsbury learned that

673
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 1: lesson is something he's already talked about it and what

674
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 1: that means on game day on Sunday. I'm glad you

675
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 1: pivoted off the If it's predictive to say that they've

676
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 1: struggled in the first month the last four years and

677
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:26,919
Speaker 1: if that's going to happen again. Because I was ready

678
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 1: to shut that down, you've learned what I was going

679
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 1: to say, and I agree with you where Cliff Kingsbury

680
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,919
Speaker 1: had issues last year as a first year head coach,

681
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 1: and that's the sort of stuff that you know, I

682
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 1: think is real, like a guy trying to adjust to

683
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 1: the NFL at having those issues, not because of a

684
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,320
Speaker 1: certain month or day of the week, or whether or

685
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,800
Speaker 1: time or whatever. But I think that they need to

686
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:52,840
Speaker 1: get off to a better start of this season. There's

687
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:56,280
Speaker 1: a lot higher expectations this season. The team is better

688
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 1: and we feel like they you know, they have some

689
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 1: winnable game in the first quarter of the year. Obviously,

690
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,320
Speaker 1: this is a very hard one in the opener, but

691
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 1: starting fast is going to be important for the Cardinals

692
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 1: just because for the first season in a few there's

693
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 1: a lot of hype around this team where the playoffs

694
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 1: seem realistic and attatable. And if if you start oh

695
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 1: and three, then it you know, it takes a lot

696
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 1: of air out of the sales. So I do think

697
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 1: starting fast it's important for the year. And you know what,

698
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 1: it's not just the offense. I was looking at some

699
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:28,919
Speaker 1: of the numbers in the first month the last couple

700
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 1: of years, and it was the Seattle game last year,

701
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:36,320
Speaker 1: Week three, right, they had fifteen miss tackles. Nance Joseph

702
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 1: counted fifteen miss tackles in a single game. And honestly, Darren,

703
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 1: if there's one area that is right for RUST, it's

704
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 1: gonna be the open field tackling. I always think there's

705
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 1: a couple of different spots that kind of would have

706
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 1: to make you nervous if you're a coach, it's going

707
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,320
Speaker 1: to be the tackling. That's a big one because you

708
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 1: just you don't do enough of that anyways. And now

709
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 1: with no preseason games and nothing, I mean, that's that

710
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 1: would be scary, especially for the guys that are going

711
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 1: to be playing. There was a little bit of in

712
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:07,919
Speaker 1: training camp, but hardly any of it was being done

713
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 1: by the guys that are going to be playing a lot.

714
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 1: And then the other thing, too would be penalties and

715
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 1: are you ready for officials to be calling stuff, which

716
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,399
Speaker 1: you know sometimes you have that in the preseason games

717
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 1: and you would have some of that at practice, and

718
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:26,359
Speaker 1: now it's like you haven't had any of that for real,

719
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 1: and now these guys who by the way, the officials

720
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: are going to be rusty too. Now they're watching you play,

721
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 1: and you know, it'll be interesting to see how that

722
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 1: plays out. I'll throw this out there too. And reading

723
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 1: about the Niners, Javon kim Law has struggled at times, supposedly,

724
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,800
Speaker 1: especially in some of the one on one pass rush drills.

725
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 1: Doesn't quite have maybe some of the technique and the

726
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 1: mechanics some other guys might have. Has admitted to in

727
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 1: his college days using bullyball. I'm bigger, stronger, I'm going

728
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 1: through you. I'm going to throw you aside. That doesn't

729
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 1: work in the NFL. I bring that up a because

730
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 1: their first round pick and they replaced the Forrest Buckner

731
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 1: with Javon kim Law. And we'll see you what the

732
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 1: return out investment is, especially in week one when he's

733
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 1: a rookie, just like the Cardinals and Isaiah Simmons. But

734
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:11,919
Speaker 1: be it makes me all that much more bullish. Kyle

735
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 1: on Richard Lawrence. We had Richard Lawrence on the Big

736
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:16,800
Speaker 1: Red Rage Wolf ast him, are you gonna be in

737
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 1: the rotation? He said, yes, I will be in the rotation.

738
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 1: He's apparently proven himself enough and I don't know about

739
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:24,320
Speaker 1: you guys, and I know we can't report on the

740
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 1: close part of practice, but I'll just throw this out there.

741
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 1: Does he not get off the ball in the live sessions?

742
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 1: He gets off in an instant Richard Lawrence and he

743
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:35,879
Speaker 1: told us in the Big Red Rage and maybe share

744
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 1: this with the media. I don't know, but that he

745
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: was asked to two gap at LSU and he was

746
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 1: always required to hold up his blocker, play run first,

747
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 1: then shed the blocker, rushed the passer. Now he can

748
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 1: just get off the ball and attack, and man, does

749
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 1: he get off in a hurry. And that could be

750
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 1: a really big deal if he does live up to

751
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,800
Speaker 1: this hype that he's getting early. I mean, we've we

752
00:37:55,960 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 1: talked about Isaiah Simmons and last year's big pick, Kyler Urry,

753
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 1: and a lot of different guys from last year that

754
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 1: we're still interested in. And it seems like the beyond

755
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,959
Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons, this year's draft class has been a little

756
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 1: bit in the background because Josh Jones isn't starting in

757
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 1: the beginning of the season and the other guys were

758
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 1: later round picks. But you're right, it always catches my

759
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 1: attention when Cliff Kingsberry talks about somebody without without a question,

760
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 1: specifically asked about that person, and credit to you, Paul,

761
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 1: when you ask you know who's been impressing me. And

762
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 1: he talks about Richard Lawrence. That says something to me

763
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 1: is there're certain guys that are catching their eye. And yeah,

764
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 1: they need depth on the defensive line, and they need

765
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,919
Speaker 1: guys that can get interior pressure. And we probably didn't

766
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,839
Speaker 1: expect Rochard Lawrence to be a big time impact from

767
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 1: early on. We'll certainly no in Week one against a

768
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 1: pretty good offensive line. If he can get in there,

769
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 1: you know, he's probably not going to play a bunch

770
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 1: of snaps, but if he makes his presence known, it's

771
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 1: certainly a good sign for his future. He told us

772
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,839
Speaker 1: that in the offseason he'd go with Corey Peters over

773
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 1: to Bertrand Berry's training center and they'd work out with

774
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 1: B Train. And so I texted B Train. I said, hey,

775
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 1: Chard Lawrence had some really nice things to say about

776
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 1: you as a teacher and a mentor, and be Train

777
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 1: texting your BacT he was a better student and he's

778
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 1: been getting a lot of praise or Chard Lawrence for

779
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 1: his knowledge of the game and just the work ethics.

780
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 1: So I'm intrigued to see him anybody else daring off

781
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 1: the radar, so to speak. You know that, you know,

782
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 1: other than some of the big names, perhaps that you're

783
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:29,320
Speaker 1: curious to see how they play on Sunday. Well, just

784
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 1: you know, just touching on Lawrence real quick. It's funny

785
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 1: you mentioned Corey Peters because the number of times that

786
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,360
Speaker 1: when the defensive and offensive lines had a chance to

787
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 1: take a break during practice and you do seven on

788
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 1: seven or whatever and they were just having a breath

789
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: of the number of times I would see Corey Peters

790
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:49,439
Speaker 1: and Richard Lawrence just off on their own and Corey

791
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 1: Peters was basically teaching them technique and you know, where

792
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 1: to put your hands on a guy and everything. I mean,

793
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 1: that happened all the time. So I love the fact

794
00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 1: that Lawrence, you know, listening to that stuff. I do

795
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 1: think he's got a chance mentally to be a really

796
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 1: good one. I would say other than that, for me,

797
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 1: it's probably going to be Drake Kirkpatrick because here's a

798
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 1: guy that you brought in Lee and you're expecting to

799
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 1: hopefully be your number two guy, and he be able

800
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 1: to keep Byron Murphy on the inside, and Draker Patrick

801
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 1: before he got hurt last year, wasn't playing great football.

802
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:25,320
Speaker 1: And there's a lot of things that went into it.

803
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 1: He's still very prideful and he feels like he still

804
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 1: has a chance to be a very good player. But

805
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 1: and they're going to need that. And I do think

806
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 1: Patrick Peterson's got a chance to be very good this

807
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,320
Speaker 1: year or so. There's gonna be people throwing Kirkpatrick's direction.

808
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 1: And if he can play just a solid number two cornerback,

809
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 1: I think that's a big deal. And that's something else

810
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 1: I'll can watch Kyle. Why did the Arizona Cardinals keep

811
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 1: Chris s Traveler? Why did they? Because he's the level

812
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,320
Speaker 1: I mean things out What would you have been? What

813
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: would we have talked about on the podcast if he

814
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 1: didn't make the team? Forgetting the high forget the Dan

815
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 1: Harnold hype train. This is me, hut, this is me

816
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,879
Speaker 1: David Paroult at third base doing the old you know train. Well,

817
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 1: if you're forgetting the whole hype training, I mean, Chris,

818
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,800
Speaker 1: how many teams are only going with two quarterbacks? A

819
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 1: lot of teams, So I'm curious, Um, is he really

820
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 1: going to be that prominent on special teams. The Struggler.

821
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 1: Here's the thing, here's where I look at. First of all,

822
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:28,839
Speaker 1: I think this year, more than any other, you don't

823
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 1: want to get ahead of yourself in terms of practice

824
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 1: squad and regular roster because of the ability to promote

825
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 1: two guys from the practice squad every week. So if

826
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:41,760
Speaker 1: you're talking about having if they're worried that Chris Struggler

827
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: could get picked up by somebody else because of his

828
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,359
Speaker 1: potential of being a taste on Hill, you keep him

829
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 1: on the active roster, and you have maybe another wide

830
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 1: receiver or another cornerback or whatever that you think is

831
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 1: less likely to go someplace else. You can keep him

832
00:41:57,719 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: on the practice squad and just make him be active

833
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 1: on Sundays. I think that's part of it. You look

834
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 1: at that the Patriots don't even have a kicker on

835
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 1: the active roster right now. They put them both the

836
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 1: practice squad and they're obviously going to elevate one on

837
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 1: Sundays and depending on who they want, and then that

838
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 1: way they get to save a roster spot for somebody

839
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 1: who they know could they could lose, as opposed to

840
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 1: kickers who probably won't get signed a way, So I

841
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 1: think I think that's a little bit different. But when

842
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 1: it comes to Straggler, I think they have hopes that

843
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 1: he can be something. I don't know if he's gonna

844
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 1: have a giant role in special teams. He may not

845
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 1: even be active on Sundays. Don't forget that they still

846
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 1: have to have a couple of guys be inactive on Sundays.

847
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 1: Maybe he's just an inactive guy at first. But I

848
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 1: do think they're looking down the road, and I do

849
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,359
Speaker 1: think they think he can do some things on special teams,

850
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 1: and I do think eventually they would like to see

851
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 1: what he might be able to do offensively, fitting in

852
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 1: like a tay somehow. We'll have to see how that goes. Yeah,

853
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:55,800
Speaker 1: I buy that just the nature of the position he

854
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:59,359
Speaker 1: plays period. Barrett's his inclusion in the fifty, especially when

855
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,839
Speaker 1: you look at someone names who are backup quarterbacks around

856
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 1: the league less than impressive. You could see a team

857
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:08,399
Speaker 1: jumping on a Chris Struggler. There's no how many guys

858
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 1: dressed by the way this year. So it's not forty six,

859
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 1: it's more than forty six. You can have, Yeah, you

860
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 1: can have forty eight this year as long as eight

861
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 1: of them are offensive linemen. Okay, got it. By the way,

862
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 1: you guys realize the Niners are going to the Greenbrier.

863
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 1: You got between two and three. They are going to

864
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 1: the Greenbrier for a week. I was when I saw that.

865
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: I was stunned, given the situation we're in with COVID,

866
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 1: because obviously there was a lot of discussion. Michael Bidwill

867
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 1: even talked about it when the schedule came out, that

868
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 1: they were thinking about staying back east, probably between the

869
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 1: Carolina and Jets games. And I think, as far as

870
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 1: I know, that's kind of been scotched because of COVID

871
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 1: and not wanting to deal with it. And I have

872
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 1: a team that is going to go stay out there.

873
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:56,320
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a big ask, you know, I'll be

874
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,919
Speaker 1: at first, I was surprised too, But you know, Kyle,

875
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 1: what's more preventative guys going home every night or having

876
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 1: your own hotel bubble and keeping the entire team it

877
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 1: just one location and having the premises virtually to yourself. Yeah,

878
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 1: I don't know, it seems I was surprised by it.

879
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 1: It seems a little bit risky going to a new

880
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 1: area that you're gonna have to disinfect and I feel

881
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 1: like when you're at home, you kind of have it

882
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 1: down to a science and you can get into a routine,

883
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 1: especially at the facility, and then you trust those guys

884
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 1: to go home. And I mean, you look at the

885
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:36,720
Speaker 1: positive percentage and everybody's doing a fantastic job of staying

886
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 1: safe so far. So I feel like, don't mess with

887
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 1: something that's working personally. But you know, I'm sure they

888
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 1: gave it a lot of thought and that's you know,

889
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 1: that's the decision they made. But clearly the Cardinals aren't

890
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 1: doing something like that. They felt like it was a

891
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 1: better idea to come home each week. By the way, Darren,

892
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 1: you have your own dedicated headset for the pregame show,

893
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 1: just to let you know, and we're putting your name

894
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 1: on it so you know the protocols will be in

895
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 1: place with the pregame show on game day. I'm very

896
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 1: excited to be able to start calling you by your

897
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 1: new name, Paully Walt and Ellis Calvic and uh so

898
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 1: that that'll be exciting. Yeah, I love to I love to,

899
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 1: you know, help myself and boguard his nickname Vulture thirteen.

900
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 1: But that was well learned as a Vietnam Rmy Hellicott

901
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 1: and a guy who you had a purple heart, so, uh,

902
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 1: you know, I man, it's got to know his limitation.

903
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 1: So there's there's no vulture CALVC over here. Absolutely not no, no,

904
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:38,839
Speaker 1: except if they open the uh is the press box concessionaire?

905
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 1: You gonna be open? That's the real key. That's what

906
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,800
Speaker 1: we need to know. At the forty nine ers. I've

907
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 1: told a couple of people this, it's it's gonna be.

908
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 1: This first game is gonna be interesting. There's part of

909
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 1: me that wishes we were opening at home because so

910
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:52,840
Speaker 1: we could kind of get a sense of that. To

911
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 1: to have the first game for us to be a

912
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 1: road trip and uh, knowing that there isn't any stadium

913
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 1: around the league that has done a dry run, a

914
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 1: real dry run to really understand what this is going

915
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 1: to be like with all these protocols. I mean, I

916
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 1: don't know what it's going to be like. I don't

917
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:09,360
Speaker 1: know what it's gonna be like for you and me.

918
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:11,319
Speaker 1: I don't know what we're gonna be walking into when

919
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:15,800
Speaker 1: we get there. It's it could be. It could be

920
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 1: very interesting on Sunday for all of us and obviously

921
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 1: all of us aren't necessarily doing I mean Kyle, Kyle's

922
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 1: moving up in the world to getting in front of

923
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 1: the camera. I'm going to do a pre postgame show

924
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 1: with Lisa Matthews and and you know, we're all gonna

925
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 1: be doing things because of the pandemic a little bit

926
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 1: differently than we have been. I don't know what coverage

927
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 1: is going to be like after the games. I mean

928
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 1: our friends and media relations. They get to have one

929
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:45,760
Speaker 1: person go into locker room and fetch players for postgame

930
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:50,359
Speaker 1: interviews when normally they've got four got three or four

931
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 1: guys in there, you know, trying to negotiate all of

932
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 1: that and do it all into a backdrop of you're

933
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:01,320
Speaker 1: getting all this stuff happening, and you're you're having to

934
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,320
Speaker 1: get guys ready to actually get out a plane to

935
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,479
Speaker 1: fly home. So we'll have to see how that goes.

936
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 1: And then there's the noise. You know, does anybody have

937
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:12,319
Speaker 1: a decibel meter? I'm gonna bring the noise to make

938
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 1: sure the Niners aren't up to any funny business when

939
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 1: there's a key third down in the game that all

940
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 1: of a sudden, the decibels don't exceed eighty. We need

941
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 1: to monitor that because there might be something fishy going on.

942
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 1: Let's be honest on that one. So and not to

943
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 1: offend the forty nine or faithful, but there are a

944
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:29,720
Speaker 1: few years when they were really bad, when it probably

945
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 1: didn't even get up to eighty with the lack of

946
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 1: a crowd. They're they're better now, so I'm sure it

947
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:36,919
Speaker 1: would have been loud, But they had some pretty lean

948
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:40,439
Speaker 1: years and the crowd was probably like twenty percent full

949
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:42,840
Speaker 1: for some of those games. It wasn't much of an ambiance.

950
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 1: Even when they were rolling last year. That crowd still

951
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 1: doesn't match Candlestick, no way, no chance did. Different atmosphere,

952
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 1: different vibe. I'm with you, Kyle, I'm glad you brought

953
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:56,839
Speaker 1: that up. I think Candlestick, I mean just in terms

954
00:47:56,880 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 1: of the noise, the intimidation factor, um she always say,

955
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 1: the physicality in the stands at times. Uh. Yeah, it was.

956
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 1: It was Raiders esque Candlestick. I could see that, and

957
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 1: you know there was a little bit of moisture at

958
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 1: ruining your shoes. Yeah, and the sideline guy had to

959
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:19,799
Speaker 1: actually go through the stands up to the press box,

960
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 1: so you have to walk down through the leaking center

961
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 1: block where the water is running down the center block

962
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 1: and then down the stands because there's no other way

963
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 1: to get down to the field, and you would just

964
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 1: I would hustle down and just hope that my Cardinals

965
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 1: red could be you know, taken initially by all the

966
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 1: drunks for Niners read and before they realized that I

967
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 1: was the opposition, boom, I was already on the field.

968
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 1: So there you go. That's a veteran. Now it's all

969
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 1: Silicon Valley, so you know, unless you have stock options,

970
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 1: don't even show up to a Niners game. At this point.

971
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:50,879
Speaker 1: I'll do it for Cardinals own the ground. Well, we'll

972
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 1: see how we all survive. For Kyle and Darren and

973
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 1: our gym on launder On Paul KELVC. We'll see you

974
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 1: next week.