1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: Center is always nice to be sitting with you in studio, 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: and for people that are listening audio only, you can 3 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: watch this episode on YouTube as well. Let's start with 4 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: this idea, and I think it's time to have a 5 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: real discussion about it, the possibility that Joe Biden may 6 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: actually not be the nominee for the Democratic Party. They 7 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 1: seem to be turning on him. Your initial reaction to this. 8 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 2: Well, I think the odds that Joe Biden is not 9 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 2: the Democrats nominee in twenty twenty four have risen significantly, 10 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 2: maybe by as much as twenty or thirty percent, And 11 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 2: I think they're all sorts of inditia that suggests that 12 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 2: Democrats are getting nervous. They're getting nervous about his age. 13 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 2: They're looking at polling numbers that show two thirds of 14 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 2: Americans think he's too old to be president. They're getting 15 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:49,639 Speaker 2: nervous about all of the evidence of Biden corruption. You've 16 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:53,160 Speaker 2: got Hunter being indicted, You've got all the connections to Joe. 17 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 2: And then what we've seen in recent weeks is the 18 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 2: media's turning on them. And remember the role of the media. Sadly, 19 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 2: they're no longer journalists, they no longer report news. They 20 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:05,119 Speaker 2: are the left wing of the Democrat Party. And when 21 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 2: the media turns on the presumed Democrat nominee, I think 22 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 2: that is the cutting edge of the Democrat intelligentsia saying 23 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 2: we may have to cut bait and find someone new. So, 24 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 2: for example, David Ignatius, Yeah, columnists in the Washington Post. 25 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: Say that again in the Washington Post, saying this, this 26 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: is something that doesn't happen. 27 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 3: Well, he wrote, tell us what he wrote. 28 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: Then he wrote something interesting and basically was saying it's 29 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 1: time to get rid of Joe Biden or maybe Kamala Harris, 30 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: or maybe both. And one of the things he talked 31 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 1: about in here he said he was concerned about Harris 32 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:43,759 Speaker 1: that even with Biden, because he says that, well, one 33 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: way that Biden could help himself is by encouraging quote 34 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: a more open vice presidential selection process that can produce 35 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: a stronger running mate. So he's even saying, hey, Joe Biden, 36 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: you're in deep trouble. Democrats need to pay attention to this. 37 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: But if you're not going to stop, if you're not 38 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: gonna say I'm not going to run, you might want 39 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: to look at replace your vice presidential candidate. Because maybe 40 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: that will at least make you'll go, all right, well, 41 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: we like you a little bit more because we know 42 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:10,359 Speaker 1: we're going to replace you with someone that we like. 43 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: Because her poll numbers are worse than Joe Biden's, well, 44 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: well they are. 45 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 2: And the fact that the Washington Post is throwing that 46 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:19,639 Speaker 2: marker out there, and let's come back to that, because 47 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 2: I want to talk about the likelihood of Joe not 48 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 2: being the nominee. I want to talk about the likelihood 49 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 2: of Kamala not being the vice presidentdential nominee. But first, 50 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 2: the fact that the Washington Post puts that out there 51 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 2: in a very prominent column. It's like the starter's pistol 52 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 2: and the media, they all listen to the same things. 53 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 2: And so when you have the Washington Post start saying that, 54 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 2: when you have the New York Times starts saying that, 55 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 2: you start having others. So, for example, here's CNN this 56 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 2: past week. Give a listen he has done I don't 57 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 2: know if it's similar things, but he's sort of told 58 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 2: some stories that don't line up quite like this before. 59 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, this president has a pattern at this point of 60 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 4: either in venting or embellishing stories about his own past, 61 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 4: his biography. He did it three times in one speech 62 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 4: last month alone. He claimed he had witnessed bridge collapse 63 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 4: in Pittsburgh when he actually showed up about six hours later. 64 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 4: He claimed that his grandfather had died just days before 65 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 4: he was born himself at the same hospital. In fact, 66 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 4: his grandpa died more than a year before in a 67 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 4: different state, not the same hospital. And he also repeated 68 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 4: a favorite fallse story that I and others had debunked 69 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 4: over and over again about a supposed conversation with an 70 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 4: Amtrak train conductor he was friends with who was actually 71 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 4: deceased at the time the conversation would have had to 72 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,119 Speaker 4: take place. And that's not all. There are some more 73 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 4: serious ones, in my view. Previously in his presidency, he 74 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 4: claimed at one point he'd been arrested during a civil 75 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 4: rights protest, when in other versions of the story he 76 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 4: just said an officer had taken him home from a protest. 77 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 4: He said he had visited the Pittsburgh synagogue where warshippers 78 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 4: were killed in a twenty eighteen match shooting. In fact, 79 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 4: he had actually spoken to the rabbi, but but never went. 80 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 4: And he's made a whole bunch of others too, he 81 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 4: said At one point Republicans like to bring this up. 82 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 4: He said that he used to drive a tractor trailer 83 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 4: and he used to drive an eighteen wheeler. Never happened. 84 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 4: The White House later clarified he used to drive a 85 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 4: school bus at one point for as a job briefly 86 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 4: school bus, of course, not an eighteen wheeler. So whatever 87 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 4: his intentions, whether it's you know, foggy memory about stuff 88 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 4: that's going on decades ago, or deliberate embellishment, this is 89 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 4: unfortunate pattern that keeps coming up again and again with 90 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 4: Joe Biden. 91 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: You go back to the starter gun analogy that used 92 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 1: a moment ago, Senator. It's like everyone was holding back. 93 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 1: Then all of a sudden, the op ed comes out 94 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 1: in the Washington Post, and it's like, oh, we can 95 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: now say this, we can now do this well. 96 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 2: And I got to say that clip on CNN I 97 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 2: think is funny on like nineteen different levels. Number one, 98 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 2: the most important thing is they're finally reporting on the 99 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:50,919 Speaker 2: fact that Joe Biden is a pathological serial liar. He 100 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 2: has been his entire career. He says things that are false, 101 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 2: he says the things that they're false. Again, he does 102 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 2: it over and over and over and over again. The 103 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 2: reporters all know that. Yeah, us CNN didn't used to 104 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 2: talk about it. They didn't used to be willing to 105 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 2: say it, because, hey, their job is to protect the 106 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 2: Democrat president, not actually to report on what he says 107 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 2: and does, even though it's a lie. 108 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 3: That's point number one. On that point number. 109 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 2: Two, the examples they use are deliberately minor examples. They're 110 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 2: deliberately not that consequential. They didn't include the lie that 111 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 2: Joe Biden just did last week where he said he 112 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 2: was at ground zero the day after nine to eleven 113 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 2: and he saw it right there. That's a flat out lie. 114 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 3: No, he wasn't. 115 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 2: He was on the floor of the Senate on September twelfth, 116 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 2: two thousand and one. He did not go the day 117 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 2: after nine to eleven. It's just at an absolute lie. 118 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 2: But they didn't include that one because that is well. 119 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: I laugh, because they put at the bottom of the 120 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 1: screen on the ticker, but they didn't mention it in 121 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: their comments. They're like, well, it was like the pretext 122 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: was like, let's not mention that one, because I think 123 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: that makes too many Americans angry that you would place 124 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: yourself at the ground zero the day after nine to eleven, 125 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 1: So we'll just put at the bottom of the screen, 126 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:00,279 Speaker 1: but we won't even talk about it. Where our work words. 127 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 2: And most significantly, they do not include his repeated lies 128 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 2: about his corruption with his son, Hunter Biden. They don't 129 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 2: include the lie I've never spoken with my son about 130 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 2: his overseas business dealings. That's now demonstrably false. Even the 131 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 2: White House is backed away from it. But far be 132 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:19,479 Speaker 2: it from CNN to admit that that's a lie, because 133 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:23,919 Speaker 2: that actually that goes to their conceit no evidence, no evidence, 134 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 2: no evidence, there's no evidence, no direct evidence. We obviously 135 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 2: had an entire podcast explaining what they mean when they 136 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 2: say no no direct evidence and why they're lying. So 137 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 2: they don't include the most consequential and significant ones. And 138 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 2: I got to say, for those of you that are 139 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 2: watching this on YouTube, this is one of our three 140 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,119 Speaker 2: pods a week that is both on YouTube and on audio. 141 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 2: You can see the images they put up, and they 142 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 2: have a whole series of clips of Joe Biden, every 143 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 2: one of them. 144 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 3: He's smiling. 145 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're all good. He looks like a genial grandfather. 146 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 3: So he's a. 147 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: Liar, but he's just like it old he just haven't fine, 148 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 1: he's just you. 149 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 2: I mean, who else hasn't claimed they were at ground 150 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 2: zero after nine to eleven when they weren't. That's just 151 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 2: what really old genial uncle Joe's do. So CNN is 152 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 2: starting to criticize them, but they're so bad at it, 153 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 2: They're so used to being the praetorian guard protecting him 154 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 2: that they can't really bring themselves to do it. That 155 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 2: being said, look this the Washington Post flipping on him, 156 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 2: CNN flipping on him. This is significant, and I think 157 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 2: the Democrat intelligentsia is getting nervous and Ben. I believe 158 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 2: there is now a real possibility Joe Biden is not 159 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 2: the Democrat nominee in twenty twenty four. And I think 160 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 2: there are two ways this potentially plays out. One way 161 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 2: is the pressure ratchets up internally within the Democrat Party 162 00:07:55,600 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 2: significantly enough that Biden ends up back out. I think 163 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 2: there's some chance of that. He didn't want to, but 164 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 2: I got to say. The weird thing about Democrats their 165 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 2: command and control. 166 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 3: They are collectivists. 167 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 2: And if enough of the power brokers go to Biden 168 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 2: and say enough is enough is enough, I think there 169 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 2: is some possibility, says I'm out. 170 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 3: I did what I came to do. 171 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 2: I stopped Donald Trump from getting in office in twenty 172 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 2: twenty one. 173 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 3: I'm done. 174 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 2: I'm riding off into the sunset. That's actually what David 175 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 2: Igdasias says. Look, you can victory lap. You did what 176 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 2: you wanted to do. And by the way, one of 177 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:39,439 Speaker 2: the things fueling that is the unease about Kamala Harris. 178 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 2: Kamala Harris's numbers, her pole support is terrible, her unfavorables 179 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 2: are terrible. 180 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: Worse than his, and his poll numbers, to be clear, 181 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: are at Jimmy Carter. 182 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 2: Levels or thirty nine percent approval ratings, and hers are 183 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 2: worse in the twenties. It makes you wonder if she 184 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 2: wears mint flavored shoes, because daily she seems to stick 185 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,959 Speaker 2: her foot in her mouth and Democrats are nervous. Look, 186 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 2: Joe Biden is eighty years old. If Biden is elected 187 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four, the actuarial tables are very significant. 188 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 2: The odds are high that he does not live out 189 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:19,199 Speaker 2: a second term, that he dies sometime in the White House. 190 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 2: That's just the realities of the age he's at, which 191 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 2: means in this next election, if the Democrat ticket is 192 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 2: Biden Harris, A huge part of it is going to 193 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 2: be you pull that lever for Joe Biden. You are 194 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 2: voting for President Kamala Harris, and that number one scares 195 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 2: the heck I think out of a lot of voters. 196 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 2: But number two makes Democrat Democrats nervous because they recognize 197 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 2: it scares the heck out of a lot of voters. 198 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 2: Now you asked, Okay, might they dump Kamala Harris as VP? 199 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 3: I think the chances of that are zero? 200 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: Is it for the same reason that I think it's 201 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: probably zero, and that is if it was a white male, 202 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:00,559 Speaker 1: they'd have a much easier time. I'm getting rid of 203 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 1: that person. But this is an African American female. How 204 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 1: do you offload an African American female without having to 205 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 1: worry that women are going to turn against you? Yeah, 206 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: and minorities would turn against you, saying how dare you 207 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: get rid of our woman? Who could be the first 208 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 1: female president in the history of the United States of 209 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:21,079 Speaker 1: America could be Kamala Harris, not because anyone elects her, 210 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:24,839 Speaker 1: just because of age and him having to resign or 211 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: based on age that he could die in office. 212 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 2: So yes, And especially because the Democrats are such hyper 213 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 2: bean counting, they put everyone into categories, so they don't 214 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 2: think of you as a human being. They think of 215 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:40,559 Speaker 2: you you are a man, you were a white man, 216 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 2: you were a black woman, like whatever your race, whatever 217 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:49,479 Speaker 2: your category. Ideally you're a transgender, you know, vegetarian, pantheist 218 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 2: or whatever. But whatever your category, they put you into it. 219 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:58,959 Speaker 2: If it were some poor slub white guy, if the 220 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 2: VP were Joe Biden, see ya, they'd put him out 221 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 2: on a boat with a guy saying Hail Mary as 222 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:10,839 Speaker 2: he puts around in his forehead as they do, and 223 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:15,199 Speaker 2: Godfather too. That's what they do. And I mean that figuratively. 224 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 2: I can just see the fact checkers now. Cruz says 225 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 2: they're going to murder him, though that's not what I'm saying. 226 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 2: I'm saying they'd get rid of him, and get rid 227 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 2: of him really quickly. I don't think the Democrats would 228 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 2: be willing to dump Kamala Harris because they view African 229 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 2: American women as such an essential part of their political 230 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 2: coalition to victory that I think they'd be terrified of 231 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 2: pissing off black women. 232 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 3: And if African American women stayed home. 233 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 2: Democrats lose, so I don't think they can dump Kamala 234 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 2: Harris as much as as the Washington Post columnists might 235 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 2: want them to. So they're two scenarios in which Joe 236 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 2: Biden is not the nominee. I believe number one, the 237 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,319 Speaker 2: powers that be in the Democrat Party convinced Joe Biden 238 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 2: to pull out. If that happens, I think it's a 239 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 2: free for all. I think a bunch of people get in. 240 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 2: I think the top four Democrats who get in are 241 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 2: Kamala Harris, Pete Bootage, Edge, Gavin Newsom, and Elizabeth Warren. 242 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:21,079 Speaker 2: And I think all four of them get in. I 243 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:23,559 Speaker 2: think Gretchen Whitmer probably gets in as well. I think 244 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 2: there are some others that get in. I think you 245 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 2: probably get five to ten candidates who jump in the 246 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:31,559 Speaker 2: instant Biden is out now, in my view, the top 247 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 2: tier of the first four I listed, and I think 248 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 2: in that primary, I believe Elizabeth Warren wins that primary. Really, 249 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 2: and when I say that that shocks people, I get 250 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:42,119 Speaker 2: a lot of gasps. 251 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 1: But I'd be to that group right now because that 252 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 1: was not what I thought you were gonna say. Why 253 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 1: Elizabeth Warren out of all them. I mean, she has 254 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: Pokehontas for a reason. 255 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:54,079 Speaker 2: Because I think Elizabeth Warren is the ID of today's 256 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 2: Democrat Party. She is the hard left, angry Marxist and 257 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 2: that is where the heart is. Look, it's Elizabeth Warren 258 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 2: and Bernie Sanders and AOC that drive the Democrat policy 259 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 2: agenda right now because the entire party is terrified of her. 260 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 2: In twenty twenty, Elizabeth Warren was splitting the crazy moon 261 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 2: bat Marxist left with Bernie Sanders. Yeah, and the two 262 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 2: of them were dividing that vote, which is what let 263 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 2: Joe Biden win that primary. I don't think Bernie runs 264 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 2: this time. I think he will recognize he's too old 265 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 2: to run this time. And so I think Elizabeth has 266 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:32,679 Speaker 2: the crazy left winger lane all to herself, and I 267 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 2: think that beats the rest of that field. That scenario one, 268 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 2: Elizabeth Warren comes out of a wide open, real Democrat primary. Now, 269 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 2: the thing about it is you're running out of time, 270 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 2: So I'll give you some deadlines. October sixteenth is the 271 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 2: filing deadline for major party candidates in Nevada. November tenth 272 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 2: is the filing deadline for major major party candidates at Alabama. 273 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 2: November fourteenth is the filing deadline for major party candidates 274 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 2: in Arkansas. So we're starting to get to filing deadlines 275 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 2: where it becomes exceedingly difficult to get on the ballot. 276 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 2: And so if this scenario happens, it has to happen fast. 277 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: That was my question at the timeline. If Joe Biden's 278 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: gonna if he's gonna be pushed out, forced out, because 279 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 1: it's not gonna be on his own accord. 280 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 3: Next sixty days, next sixty days, Yeah, I mean it's 281 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 3: we've got it. 282 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 1: So then here's my question. Do we see the media 283 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 1: change the way they're covering the Biden crime family over 284 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: the next sixty days is part of the final push 285 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: to get him to realize he can't run. 286 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 3: I think that is entirely possible. 287 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 2: I think Washington Post and CNN are sort of the 288 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 2: opening shots. And if we see in the next couple 289 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 2: of weeks, if we see the media actually covering all 290 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 2: of Biden's enormous problems, that's the pressure mounting. There's a 291 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 2: second scenario, and this scenario I think is more likely 292 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 2: and a heck of a lot more dangerous, which is 293 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 2: fast forward to next year. Fast forward to the Democrat 294 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 2: National Convention. It's going to be in Chicago, Illinois, and 295 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 2: it is August nineteenth through twenty second. If we get 296 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 2: to August of next year and number one, Biden's mental 297 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 2: diminishment has gotten even worse and it becomes obvious to 298 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 2: anyone that he can't find his shoes, and Democrats decide, okay, 299 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 2: all of this downside is really worrying us. Then the 300 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 2: convention is the opportunity to parachute someone in. You parachute 301 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 2: someone in by having some story that for health reasons, 302 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 2: Biden's not able to continue. How the Democrats execute that exactly, 303 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 2: I don't know. But the Democrats are very big on 304 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 2: smoke filled rooms and forcing through the outcome they want 305 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 2: and they obey orders. Now, if you're a Democrat, pubah. 306 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 2: And by the way, the Democrats also have what are 307 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 2: called super delegates. Republicans don't have super delegates. Super delegates 308 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 2: are typically elected officials that have disproportionate power at their convention. 309 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 2: They have the ability to really move the votes. If 310 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 2: you get to the August convention for Democrats and they've 311 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 2: collectively lost their nerve on Biden said, it's time to 312 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 2: put Joe out to pasture. What do they do then, Well, 313 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 2: the natural thing to say would be, okay, it'll be 314 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 2: one of those top four. And here's the problem. Whoever 315 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 2: they pick is a problem. They pick Kamala Harris, She's 316 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 2: the vice president in some ways the natural choice. All 317 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 2: of the downsides of Kamala Harris make that a really 318 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 2: dangerous choice. If they pick Gavin Newsom, that makes some 319 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 2: California Democrats happy. The problem is you're replacing an African 320 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 2: American woman in the Democrat Party with a white guy. 321 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 2: That a rich white guy, a very rich white guy. 322 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 2: You want to talk about a recipe for discontent. That's 323 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 2: a big problem. They could go with Pete Boudhajeedge, another 324 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 2: white guy, but Buddha Jedge is gay. That's at least 325 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 2: the gay lesbian community is a big chunk of the 326 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 2: Democrat coalition. So rich liberals would really like Pete bootaj Edge, 327 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 2: and a lot of the Democrat donors are gay and lesbian. 328 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 2: That's a major chunk of the funding stream for a 329 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 2: Democrat candidate. But you have the same problem if you 330 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:37,479 Speaker 2: jettison an African American woman who's vice president for a 331 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 2: white guy in the Democrat primary, you're really asking for trouble. 332 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 2: An option for is Elizabeth Warren. Well, Elizabeth Warren makes 333 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 2: the crazy moon bat leftists happy, but you have the 334 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 2: same everyone else who doesn't get it. I think anyone 335 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 2: they go with as a coronation. It's different than an 336 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:01,439 Speaker 2: open primary where Warren wins, because primary voters vote for 337 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 2: that gives an element of legitimacy that the people who 338 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 2: don't win can live with. If it's just the king 339 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 2: maker saying nope, we pick you, whoever doesn't get picked, 340 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 2: everyone else's pissed. So here's the scenario that I think 341 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:25,919 Speaker 2: is perhaps most likely and most dangerous. In August of 342 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, the Democrat kingmakers jettison Joe Biden and 343 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:35,400 Speaker 2: parachute in Michelle Obama, and I want you to pause 344 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 2: and reflect on it. 345 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 1: Oh, I'm pausing, and I'm reflecting, as we said, and 346 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: so is everybody else listening right now. 347 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 3: I view this as a very serious danger. 348 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:47,199 Speaker 1: I'm smiling right now because it terrifies me. And I 349 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 1: also could totally see this happening. 350 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 2: So, Michelle Obama, number one, you don't infuriate African American women, 351 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 2: which is a critical part of the constituency that Democrats 352 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:00,080 Speaker 2: are relying on to win. But number two, you so 353 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:02,400 Speaker 2: avoid the problem if you pick from any of the four. 354 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 2: The other three are pissed because they're all, to some 355 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 2: extent peers, they're rivals, they're all jabbin knives at each other. 356 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 2: Michelle Obama, because she was first lady, has the ability 357 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 2: to kind of parachute in above all four and say, hey, 358 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 2: we're not picking among any of you. You guys can 359 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 2: all fight it out. Next time. You're all going to 360 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 2: be on the same level. We're coming. This is the 361 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:30,479 Speaker 2: Obamas saving the day. And I think in terms of 362 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 2: a solution that unifies Democrats, there ain't nothing like that. 363 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 2: I also think Michelle is not all that eager to 364 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 2: run for president, but to parachute in in August of 365 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 2: twenty four a couple of months before the presidency and 366 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 2: suddenly wake up and be president not a bad gig. 367 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:52,919 Speaker 2: It's not a bad gig at all. Now would she 368 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 2: do it? I don't know. I've met Michelle, but I 369 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 2: don't know her personally in any meaningful way. I don't 370 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 2: know if she would do it. I do think Barack 371 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 2: Obama is already running the Biden administration. 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If that was 410 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 1: to happen at the conventions you just described it and 411 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 1: Joe Biden walks off the stage, does he turned himself 412 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 1: into the biggest hero of the Democratic Party in history. 413 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I know that they immediately start carving 414 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 2: him on Rushmore figuratively speaking, the rushmore of socialists. Joe 415 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 2: Biden would permanently look. He aspires to be the next FDR, 416 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 2: and part of how Democrats would get him to step 417 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 2: down as saying, by doing this, your FDR. By doing this, 418 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:42,879 Speaker 2: you're George Washington stepping down after two terms. You're demonstrating 419 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:48,199 Speaker 2: the ultimate statesman principle. Now look, I think Joe Biden 420 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 2: loves the trappings of being president. This guy's wanted to 421 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 2: be president forevers he was two. And to be clear, 422 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 2: I understand that in particular sickness, my hands are not cleaned. 423 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, in that. 424 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 2: Discussion, but so I get it. But I do think 425 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 2: the Democrats appeal to his vanity that you will be 426 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:11,479 Speaker 2: legendary and immortal if you do this, and that may 427 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 2: be an element of making it happen. And I don't 428 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 2: think it is more likely than not. I don't think 429 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 2: it's greater than fifty percent that Biden is not the nominee, 430 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 2: but I think it's probably twenty five or thirty percent 431 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 2: right now. 432 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 1: It's interesting that you said that about Michelle because I 433 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 1: was doing my podcast the night after Michelle Obama was 434 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 1: talking with Billy Jing King about equal pay, and she 435 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 1: did this speech the US open in prime time And 436 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:36,719 Speaker 1: I said the next day, not thinking about the connection 437 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 1: you're talking about here, I said it like it was 438 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 1: almost like a coming out political speech. It was the 439 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,160 Speaker 1: first time I saw Michelle Obama in a political way. 440 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 1: It wasn't a first lady's speech. It was a political 441 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 1: ass speech. It was her in her own words, not 442 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 1: under my husband. First lady ask and if you think 443 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,119 Speaker 1: about that now, with what you just said, that's scary 444 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 1: as hell. 445 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 2: And by the way, this is not a new thought 446 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 2: for Democrats. Had Bill Clinton who served two terms, and 447 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 2: then obviously Hillary was presumed to be the heir apparent, 448 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 2: and so the dynamic from Barack to Michelle. Listen, the 449 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 2: Democrats are dynastic. The Democrats are top down. The Democrats 450 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 2: are command and control. And it's because Michelle has a 451 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 2: claim to already being at a higher level in the 452 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 2: Democrat pecking order than any of the other contenders. It's 453 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 2: the only solution for Democrat power brokers that doesn't cause 454 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 2: a civil war. 455 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it comes with the best political campaigner in 456 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 1: the Democratic Party, her husband. 457 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 2: Plus, look, Michelle spent eight years as first lady. First 458 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 2: lady is a position that by design keeps you out 459 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,679 Speaker 2: of the political fray. And so Michelle Obama has really 460 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 2: high positives and relatively low negatives. Now she starts getting 461 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 2: into policy, I think she is further left than Barack. 462 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 2: I think she is further left than Joe Biden. I 463 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 2: think as a president she would be disastrous. But the 464 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 2: American people think not only of her because she's first Lady. 465 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,679 Speaker 2: The role of first lady insulates someone. And if she 466 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:20,399 Speaker 2: parachutes in in August with big positives and relatively low negatives, 467 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 2: and she can also say, hey, all the things Joe 468 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 2: Biden screwed up on that wasn't me. Yeah, that is 469 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 2: really potent politically. If I were a Democrat, I'd be 470 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:32,400 Speaker 2: excited about that. 471 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: There's also something else to happened this week with a 472 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 1: Democratic primary that was shocking to me. You've had people 473 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: that made threats against you, You've run for president of 474 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 1: United States of America. I've experienced having people threatened against 475 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 1: me as well. It's not a good feeling. You look 476 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 1: at the Kennedy family and the fact that they've had 477 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:56,439 Speaker 1: assassinations and targeting, and RFK has made it clear he 478 00:25:56,600 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 1: wants protection. There was something shocking that had this week 479 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 1: with a man that was dressed liked law enforcement. Thank goodness, 480 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 1: they saw him, they figured it out. There were certain 481 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 1: things he was wearing in his outfit, the way where 482 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 1: his gun was being held on his person that didn't 483 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 1: fit law enforcement, and he was arrested. But you were 484 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: upset about this, I think as you should be, because 485 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 1: why have they still not decided to protect RFK and 486 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 1: what's taking them so long, especially when see things like 487 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:25,399 Speaker 1: this happened. 488 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, this was a really disturbing security incident. You had 489 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 2: someone show up at an event for RFK Junior. He 490 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 2: had two firearms and two shoulder holsters that he was wearing. 491 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,400 Speaker 2: He was dressed as law enforcement, and it was fraudulent. 492 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 2: He was dressed with a lanyard that indicated he was 493 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 2: a US marshal. He was trying to camouflage. He told 494 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 2: people he was part of rfk's security detail. Thankfully, the 495 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 2: private security that RFK hired recognized that he wasn't and 496 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 2: they detained and arrested him. But someone coming in with 497 00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 2: two loaded firearms and extra magazines impersonating law enforcement is 498 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 2: on its face, exceptionally dangerous. Now, RFK put out the 499 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:08,679 Speaker 2: following statement, We're gonna put it up on the screen. 500 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:12,639 Speaker 2: Here's what RFK said. I'm very grateful that alert and 501 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 2: fast acting protectors from Gavin de Becker and associates his 502 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,639 Speaker 2: private security firm spotted and detained an armed man who 503 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 2: attempted to approach me at my Hispanic Heritage speech at 504 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 2: the Wilshire Ebel Theatre in Los Angeles tonight. The man, 505 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:30,880 Speaker 2: wearing two shoulder hosters with loaded pistols and spare ammunition magazines, 506 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 2: was carrying a US Marshal badge on a lanyard and 507 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 2: at belt clip federal ID. He identified himself as a 508 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:42,880 Speaker 2: member of my security detail. Armed GDBA team members moved 509 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 2: quickly to isolate and detain the man until LAPD arrived 510 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 2: to make the arrest. I'm also grateful to LAPD for 511 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 2: its rapid response. And then this is in bold in 512 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 2: his tweet. I'm still entertaining a hope that President Biden 513 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 2: will allow me Secret Service protection, the first presidential candidate 514 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 2: history to whom the White House has denied a request 515 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:06,400 Speaker 2: for protection. 516 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,640 Speaker 1: Now, can you explain the politics of that real quick. 517 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:10,120 Speaker 1: So people don't understand how this works. 518 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, let me do that in the way I'm going 519 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:11,919 Speaker 3: to do that. 520 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 2: I want to put up I retweeted this, and I 521 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,119 Speaker 2: retweeted it with my own comment. So let's put up 522 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:21,360 Speaker 2: what I tweeted. I retweeted RFK statement, and here's what 523 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 2: I said. This isn't a left or right issue. The 524 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 2: Biden administration should give Robert Kennedy Junior a security detail now. 525 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 2: Given his tragic family history. Both his father and uncle 526 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 2: were horrifically assassinated and this latest serious security incident, Biden 527 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 2: shouldn't mess around. Under law, quote, major candidates are entitled 528 00:28:56,080 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 2: a secret service protection. Is Mayorcus's deceivision not to grant 529 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 2: protection political Surely this administration wouldn't put a man's life 530 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 2: at risk Rather than concede that RFK Junior is a 531 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 2: major candidate. The Trump DHS gave Biden protection in March 532 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 2: of twenty twenty after a security incident. MAJORCA should follow 533 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 2: that precedent and expeditiously approve protection for RFK Junior. Now, 534 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 2: the way it works under law is that a candidate 535 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 2: for president is entitled to secret Service protection if they 536 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 2: are a quote major candidate, and being a major candidate, 537 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 2: there are a series of criteria that are used to 538 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 2: ascertain major candidate, including poll numbers. It is the Secretary 539 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 2: of the Department of Homeland Security that makes that determination. 540 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 2: They do so in consultation with a bipartisan advisory committee 541 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 2: that concludes both with Republicans and Democrats at the easy level, 542 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 2: the major party nominees both are entitled to coverage, and 543 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 2: they both get it, but historically they get it earlier 544 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 2: than becoming the nominees. If you look at twenty sixteen, 545 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 2: so I've got some real and personal experience with dealing 546 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 2: with this. In twenty sixteen, in the Republican presidential primary, 547 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 2: Donald Trump was given Secret Service protection relatively early on, 548 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 2: and Ben Carson was given Secret Service protection relatively early on. Now, 549 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 2: Ben Carson did not win a single state. Ben Carson 550 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 2: was given Secret Service protection because the level of death 551 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 2: threats that were directed at him was deemed sufficient that 552 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 2: it merited Secret Service protection. I don't know exactly how 553 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 2: many death threats were talking about, but the Department of 554 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 2: Homeland Security made the determination given this threat level, given 555 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 2: the risk that some lunatic would try to kill an 556 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 2: after Kann American Republican running for president, We're going to 557 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:08,239 Speaker 2: provide Secret Service protection now. As the primary went on, 558 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 2: I won twelve states. For months, the race was essentially 559 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 2: a two man race between me and Donald Trump. No 560 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 2: other Republican other than Trump and I won more than 561 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 2: a single state. So John Kasik won Ohio, Marco Rubio 562 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 2: won Minnesota, and Trump and I won the other forty 563 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 2: eight states. And at the time that I dropped out, 564 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 2: I had won twelve and he had won something like 565 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 2: twenty two to twenty three states, so he'd won about 566 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 2: twice as many states. 567 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 3: That's when I dropped out. 568 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 2: So for months earlier, I easily met the standard for 569 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 2: a major candidate, and had I requested Secret Service protection, 570 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 2: I almost certainly would have received it, because under any 571 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 2: objective measure, I met it. In twenty sixteen, I made 572 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 2: the decision not to ask for it. We talked about 573 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 2: it in our campaign because when Secret Service comes into 574 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 2: the campaign, they slow everything down. They come in, they 575 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 2: take over all the security, They set up magnetometers, they 576 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 2: set up metal detectors in the front of the events. 577 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 2: That means people coming to your events often I'll have 578 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 2: to wait one two three hours in line. 579 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 3: It slows the operation down. 580 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 2: Once you bring Secret Service in, typically a candidate will 581 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 2: do maybe two or three events a day because it 582 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 2: just slows the entire operation down. In twenty sixteen, we 583 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 2: were running fast and hard. I was doing in days, 584 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 2: six seven, eight, nine events a day. 585 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 3: I mean, we were going fast. 586 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 2: And I didn't want pump the brakes to pump the brakes, 587 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 2: I didn't want to slow it down. So we took 588 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 2: security very seriously. So I hired private security, and we 589 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 2: had significant private security. But I would do something at 590 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 2: the end of most events. I'd jump off the front 591 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 2: of the stage and I'd plow into the crowd and 592 00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 2: I'd be hugging people, I'd be taking pictures, I'd be 593 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 2: talk to kids. I remember, Secret Service would never let 594 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 2: you do that. 595 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 3: They would. 596 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 1: You stay on the other side. 597 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 2: And so we made the decision that we wanted to 598 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 2: be faster and more nimble, and that bringing Secret Service 599 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 2: in would slow that down. And we also made the 600 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 2: decision that we had a pretty significant investment in security, 601 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 2: and that we thought we could use private security to 602 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 2: ensure safety while at the same time maintaining speed. In 603 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 2: this instance, you've got RFK Junior Number one, You've got 604 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 2: his unique personal story. His father was murdered while running 605 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 2: for president of the United States, Bobby Kennedy murdered as 606 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 2: a candidate for the Democratic nominee for president, and before that, 607 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 2: his uncle John F. Kennedy was murdered while being President of. 608 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 3: The United States. Given that history and. 609 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 2: Given people are just not look at this guy, Coppy 610 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 2: Katz and create look, I think it is a no 611 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 2: brainer that if RFK Junior wants Secret Service protection given 612 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 2: his circumstances, he deserves it. And the reason I believe 613 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:15,320 Speaker 2: the Biden administration hasn't granted it is because if they did, 614 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 2: under it genmizes him, they would have to say he's 615 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 2: a major candidate. And the approach of the Biden White 616 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 2: House is RFK who we never heard of him? Nope, Nope, 617 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 2: nobody running, nobody in the Democrat primary doesn't exist. 618 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:29,320 Speaker 3: This is a corrodation. 619 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 2: Joe's down in the basement, and I think it is 620 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 2: purely political. And I ask everyone listening to this, imagine 621 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:42,399 Speaker 2: your reaction if you turned on the TV tomorrow and 622 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 2: saw that RFK Junior, like his father, was murdered while 623 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,720 Speaker 2: being a candidate for the Democrat nomination for president. 624 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 3: Imagine the horror. 625 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 2: How do you justify the Biden administration saying nope, politics 626 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,800 Speaker 2: matters more to us, So good luck you. 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I also want to move 672 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 1: on to something else that happened this week, and this 673 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:20,400 Speaker 1: one actually makes me really angry. It's judges getting involved 674 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 1: in a way that I think is pretty clear it 675 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,759 Speaker 1: to election interference. We've seen court dates that have come 676 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 1: out now for Donald Trump, with all these different indictments 677 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 1: in different states, that could be like the days before 678 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,160 Speaker 1: Super Tuesday, when any normal candate would be on the 679 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 1: campaign trail. You just mentioned why you guys didn't do 680 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,360 Speaker 1: secret service. That's how important is to be to be 681 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 1: fast and right to be campaigning. We're seeing two things 682 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,200 Speaker 1: now that seem to be marking the calendar. One, you 683 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,279 Speaker 1: could throw this guy into courtroom during dates when he 684 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,880 Speaker 1: descerately needs to be out campaigning, taking away his ability 685 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,240 Speaker 1: to have a fair election against Joe Biden or whoever 686 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:58,400 Speaker 1: it may be. And two, now you may take away 687 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,640 Speaker 1: the president form president. It's America and the leading can 688 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:05,360 Speaker 1: it for the Republican party's voice to talk about the 689 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:09,800 Speaker 1: accusations against him from these the leftists and these people, 690 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,440 Speaker 1: these DA's are trying to lock him up by putting 691 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 1: a gag order on what he can say. This seems 692 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:19,359 Speaker 1: un American, it seems Banana Republic. Ask. I think it's 693 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,359 Speaker 1: disgusting political poy here. Yet that's what we're really talking 694 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 1: about now, is that real possibility? 695 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:25,680 Speaker 3: Look, you're exactly right. 696 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,359 Speaker 2: We have talked at length on this podcast about how 697 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:33,560 Speaker 2: the multiple indictments against Donald Trump are election interference. Democrats 698 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 2: have convinced themselves that Donald Trump is Adolf Hitler, and 699 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:41,279 Speaker 2: because they believe he's Hitler, anything, anything, anything is justified 700 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:45,200 Speaker 2: to stop him. The ends justify the means, and they're 701 00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:48,280 Speaker 2: willing to corrupt the legal process to turn the Department 702 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,239 Speaker 2: of Justice into a political weapon. They're willing to do 703 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 2: everything they can to stop the voters from daring to 704 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:58,280 Speaker 2: make a decision to vote in the way these angry 705 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:02,279 Speaker 2: partisan Democrats don't want the voters to vote. We've gone 706 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,399 Speaker 2: over two hundred years of our nation's history. We've never 707 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 2: indicted a president or a former president, or a major 708 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,640 Speaker 2: candidate for president. In the last six months, Democrats have 709 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:13,759 Speaker 2: done so four separate times. The US Department of Justice 710 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,319 Speaker 2: under Biden is the most partisan and political we've ever seen. 711 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:19,520 Speaker 2: And Jack Smith, the special prosecutor, we've talked at length. 712 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:23,440 Speaker 2: He is a partisan. He has a history of abusing power, 713 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:28,560 Speaker 2: including this is not the first presidential candidate or potential 714 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,840 Speaker 2: presidential candidate he's gone after he went after Bob McDonald, 715 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:36,600 Speaker 2: the governor of Virginia, was considered a credible presidential candidate. 716 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:41,280 Speaker 2: Jack Smith indicted him, destroyed his political career, destroyed his life, 717 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,440 Speaker 2: and then on appeal, the Supreme Court unanimously throughout the 718 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,640 Speaker 2: conviction as not being consistent with law. But he'd already 719 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,200 Speaker 2: done its job, which here out he took him out. 720 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:55,800 Speaker 2: In this instance, the case in the District of Columbia 721 00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,920 Speaker 2: is profoundly dangerous. It's profoundly dangerous because number one, the 722 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:02,480 Speaker 2: jury pool in the District Columbia is over ninety percent 723 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,359 Speaker 2: about ninety four percent Democrat. So you're going to get 724 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,799 Speaker 2: a jury that in all likelihood hates Donald Trump and 725 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:12,359 Speaker 2: believes he's Adolf Hitler. Now, if you believe someone's ad 726 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:16,200 Speaker 2: Off Hitler, he's a victim. That's not a hard guilty 727 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,600 Speaker 2: for whatever the crime is Yeah, it's just you hate 728 00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:24,440 Speaker 2: if it's Adolf Hitler. Yes, we also have a district 729 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:28,239 Speaker 2: judge who has demonstrated and earned a reputation as being 730 00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,480 Speaker 2: one of the furthest left Democrat district judges on the 731 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:35,400 Speaker 2: federal bench in d C. Who is presiding this trial 732 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,560 Speaker 2: is designed to directly interfere with the election. But Jacksmith 733 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,840 Speaker 2: said this is not enough, and so he filed a motion, 734 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,440 Speaker 2: a motion for a gag order. So he's gone to 735 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,400 Speaker 2: this left wing district judge and he's asked for a 736 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:52,880 Speaker 2: gag order. He says, defendant has repeatedly and widely disseminated 737 00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:56,439 Speaker 2: public statements attacking the citizens of the district Columbia. That's 738 00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:58,480 Speaker 2: by daring to point out that ninety four percent of 739 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:02,000 Speaker 2: DC voters vote Democrat, and that's going to be the 740 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,440 Speaker 2: jury pool the court. That's by pointing out that the 741 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,399 Speaker 2: judge has a record of being one of the most 742 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,600 Speaker 2: left wing Democrats on the entire federal bench. 743 00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:12,280 Speaker 3: Prosecutors. 744 00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:14,799 Speaker 2: That's by pointing out that jack Smith is a hard 745 00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:19,480 Speaker 2: core partisan Democrat, has already abused his power repeatedly and 746 00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:25,560 Speaker 2: prospective witnesses. The government therefore requests that the court quote 747 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:29,319 Speaker 2: enter a narrowly tailored order pursue into local criminal Rule 748 00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:36,840 Speaker 2: fifty seven C that restricts certain prejudicial extra judicial statements, 749 00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:43,680 Speaker 2: And in particular, what they ask for the government seeks 750 00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:48,480 Speaker 2: this is a quote A narrow, well defined restriction that 751 00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:52,440 Speaker 2: is targeted at extra judicial statements that present a serious 752 00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:57,000 Speaker 2: and substantial danger of materially prejudicing the case. The government's 753 00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:02,320 Speaker 2: proposed order specifies that such statements would include A statements 754 00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:07,759 Speaker 2: regarding the identity, testimony, or credibility of prospective witnesses, and 755 00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:11,640 Speaker 2: b statements about any party witness, attorney, court personnel, or 756 00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:17,799 Speaker 2: potential jurors that are disparaging and inflamma territory or intimidating. 757 00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,719 Speaker 2: Now let's be clear who do they mean by potential witnesses. 758 00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,560 Speaker 2: They mean people like Bill Barr yep, and they mean 759 00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:29,320 Speaker 2: people like Mike Pence. So Mike Pence is literally running 760 00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:34,480 Speaker 2: against Donald Trump right now for the Republican nomination for president. 761 00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,719 Speaker 2: And you have the Biden Department of Justice asking a 762 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:42,800 Speaker 2: federal judge issue an order that Donald Trump cannot say 763 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:46,400 Speaker 2: a critical word of Mike Pence about one of his 764 00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:51,320 Speaker 2: opponents in the primary, Like, holy crap, if this doesn't 765 00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:55,000 Speaker 2: piss you off, You're not paying attention. I mean, it 766 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,840 Speaker 2: is truly breathtaking. You want to understand why this is 767 00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:04,160 Speaker 2: election interference? Jay believes the federal court can order one 768 00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:08,080 Speaker 2: political candidate you're not allowed to criticize your opponent. Just 769 00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,680 Speaker 2: don't say a word. Don't say a word at all, 770 00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:15,040 Speaker 2: despite the fact that you're facing a political persecution designed 771 00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:16,719 Speaker 2: to interfere with the election, You're not. 772 00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:17,440 Speaker 3: Allowed to say it. 773 00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,200 Speaker 2: And if you do, by the way, look, a gag 774 00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:23,960 Speaker 2: order is typically enforced by contempt and by jail. So 775 00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,320 Speaker 2: what the Biden doj is proposing is if Donald Trump 776 00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:31,600 Speaker 2: says a negative word about Mike Pence, that the US 777 00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,759 Speaker 2: Department of Justice will show up and arrest him and 778 00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:38,359 Speaker 2: put him in jail for saying a negative word about 779 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:39,920 Speaker 2: one of his opponents running for president. 780 00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:41,600 Speaker 1: And by the way, they would do that. Let's be clear, 781 00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:43,839 Speaker 1: they would love to arrest him again. 782 00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:45,839 Speaker 2: That's what they want, and to keep him in jail. 783 00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:51,160 Speaker 2: This is election interference. It is wildly unconstitutional. It is 784 00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:54,560 Speaker 2: a direct violation of the First Amendment. It is also 785 00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,480 Speaker 2: a direct violation of the right to vote of our 786 00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:02,120 Speaker 2: democratic process in this country. Now, the Democrat talking heads 787 00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:05,640 Speaker 2: will say, look, sometimes you have gag orders. If you're 788 00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:10,160 Speaker 2: going against the mafia, bosh, you're going up against al Capone. 789 00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:14,520 Speaker 2: Courts will enter orders saying, Okay, you can't intimidate witnesses, 790 00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,000 Speaker 2: you can't say things that will prejudice the jury. You're right, 791 00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:22,440 Speaker 2: in an ordinary criminal trial. Those things can happen. In 792 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:26,040 Speaker 2: an ordinary criminal trial. The defendant is not a leading 793 00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:29,000 Speaker 2: candidate for president of the United States actively running for 794 00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:34,719 Speaker 2: president of the United States. And my guess, I don't 795 00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,360 Speaker 2: think the district court will grant this. I don't know that. 796 00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:39,440 Speaker 2: I don't know this judge at all. I've never met her. 797 00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,400 Speaker 2: Her record demonstrates she's left wing. But I think if 798 00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:48,840 Speaker 2: the district court granted this order, it would be exceptionally foolish. 799 00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,399 Speaker 2: Why because the order would be appealed and it would 800 00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,800 Speaker 2: be overturned on appeal. I do not believe there's any 801 00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,880 Speaker 2: way the Supreme Court of the United States would allow 802 00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:01,040 Speaker 2: a leading candidate for president to be enjoined. To be 803 00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:04,359 Speaker 2: ordered from a court, you are not allowed to criticize 804 00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,680 Speaker 2: your political opponents. I mean, if you can envision, imagine debate, 805 00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,759 Speaker 2: let's we have a subsequent Republican debate. Trump shows up 806 00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:15,040 Speaker 2: and Mike Pence blasts him, and Trump turns and says, 807 00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:18,080 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm prevented by court order from. 808 00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,320 Speaker 1: Respond, yeah, from defending myself. 809 00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:24,759 Speaker 2: That is not free speech, that is not democracy, that 810 00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:26,800 Speaker 2: is not how our system operates. 811 00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:28,720 Speaker 1: And that's election interference. 812 00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:33,520 Speaker 2: Exactly, perfect example of what capsulates. And by the way, 813 00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:37,319 Speaker 2: that's what they want, actually what they want. Look, they 814 00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:40,759 Speaker 2: know in that circumstance, Donald Trump could not restrain himself, sure, 815 00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:41,640 Speaker 2: and then they would arrest him. 816 00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:42,560 Speaker 3: And then they would arrest him. 817 00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:45,120 Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, you can almost envision the jack 818 00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,719 Speaker 2: booted thugs sitting by the side of the debate and 819 00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,480 Speaker 2: as Trump blasts his opponents, and he'll blast all his 820 00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:53,520 Speaker 2: opponents because that's what he does. You can almost envision 821 00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:55,440 Speaker 2: them walking out in the middle of the debate and saying, sir, 822 00:45:55,440 --> 00:46:00,960 Speaker 2: you're under arrest. If that is not election interference, holy cow, 823 00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:06,920 Speaker 2: it really shows just how extreme the Democrats have gotten. 824 00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:10,400 Speaker 2: This is horrific. By the way, let's be clear, I 825 00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,840 Speaker 2: would be every bit as opposed to an order preventing 826 00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:19,160 Speaker 2: Joe Biden from criticizing his opponents from criticizing RFK Junior 827 00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:21,880 Speaker 2: from criticizing Donald Trump. Not to be clear, Joe Biden 828 00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,120 Speaker 2: couldn't get up in the morning and speak without criticizing 829 00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:27,160 Speaker 2: Donald Trump. He says, good morning. Trump is the devil. 830 00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:30,000 Speaker 2: That's just how he addresses it. And he also demonizes 831 00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:34,600 Speaker 2: every other Republican because he's in his mental and feeblement, 832 00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:38,759 Speaker 2: he's also become an even more vicious partisan. But I 833 00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:42,319 Speaker 2: would be equally and animately opposed to any court trying 834 00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:45,200 Speaker 2: to prevent Joe Biden from attacking me or Trump or 835 00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:48,359 Speaker 2: anybody else, because that's what free speech and elections are 836 00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:51,879 Speaker 2: all about. But today's Democrats, they don't believe in democracy, 837 00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:54,799 Speaker 2: which is why these indictments are happening. They want to 838 00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,320 Speaker 2: stop the voters from voting in a way they don't like. 839 00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:59,719 Speaker 2: And they don't believe in free speech, which is why 840 00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:04,919 Speaker 2: they want to muzzle their leading opponent for president. It 841 00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,320 Speaker 2: is it's a brave new world. 842 00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:07,600 Speaker 3: We're living here. 843 00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:09,640 Speaker 1: It certainly is. Don't forget. We do the show three 844 00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,160 Speaker 1: days a week Monday, Wednesdays and Fridays. Make sure that 845 00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:16,080 Speaker 1: subscribe follow our auto download button depending on where you're 846 00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:19,439 Speaker 1: listening to this podcast. And also we have a new 847 00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:22,600 Speaker 1: podcast on Saturdays. 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