1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:00,440 Speaker 1: What is Up? 2 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 2: Mets fans, Welcome back to another episode of the Mets 3 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 2: Up Podcast. We've got some interesting Kyle Tucker news. I 4 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 2: know people might be getting a little bit of a 5 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:12,959 Speaker 2: rumor fatigue here, but Brian Nicholson Smith, Ben Nicholson Smith, 6 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 2: what is that? Ben Nicholson Smith drop some more on 7 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:20,080 Speaker 2: a podcast where he seems to think the Mets might 8 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 2: be one of the big players for Kyle Tucker this 9 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:25,439 Speaker 2: offseason and kind of leaning towards maybe the Blue Jay's 10 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 2: not being as aggressive on a guy like that. We're 11 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 2: gonna talk about everything that he said. We're gonna talk 12 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 2: about Kyle Tucker. Welcome back to another Kyle Tucker episode. 13 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 2: Thank you guys for watching, Thank you for listening. Make 14 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 2: sure you are subscribed to the Mets Up podcast over 15 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 2: on YouTube. We do appreciate you. If you're listening to 16 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 2: us Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google drops the raid and drops 17 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 2: a review, download and subscribe. Apologies if there's any audio troubles. 18 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 2: We're on a new platform right now where we're doing 19 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 2: our uploading, so just bear with us as we get 20 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 2: that going YouTube though, Crisp. As always, James, you sent 21 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 2: me this tweet. How'd you feel when you saw this 22 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 2: news excited. 23 00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: I don't know. 24 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 3: I just we're dying for some kind of splash. I 25 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 3: think this is definitely the splash. And Ben Nicholson Smith 26 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 3: is very plugged in with the Blue Jays, and he 27 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 3: said this on the Blue Jay's sports Net five ninety 28 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 3: the Fan, which is their number one sports radio and 29 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 3: all the time. 30 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: Radio right then. 31 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 3: What he said very specifically, at one point the Blue 32 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 3: Jays looked like the best candidate to give Kyle Tucker 33 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:18,759 Speaker 3: a long term deal. Now I would say that's the Mets. 34 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's it. That's a very contract right there. 35 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: That's it. 36 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's I wouldn't have expected the Mets to be 37 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 2: the front runners in his eye, or is there anyone's 38 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 2: eyes to give a long term contract to Kyle Tucker. 39 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 2: If you told me the shorter term deal high aav 40 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 2: a bunch of opt outs, I would have been more inclined. 41 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 2: But also at the same time, again I'm not I'm 42 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 2: not opposed to giving Kyle Tucker a long term deal. 43 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:41,199 Speaker 3: I think that's also what do we considering a long 44 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 3: term deal? At this point, we've kind of been circling 45 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 3: the drain on this Kyle Tucker Mets thing for a 46 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 3: few months. Literally it's been a few months, which is 47 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 3: crazy to think about. But if no one's going to 48 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 3: give him a long term deal, then the longest deal 49 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 3: probably just gets him. Like if you're willing to give 50 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 3: him five years or six years, you might just get 51 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 3: Kyle Tucker. You probably have to structure opt outs after 52 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 3: the third year at the soon as just because you're 53 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 3: gonna you're going to give up qualifying off for penalties. 54 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 3: But it seems like the market is just very, very 55 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 3: soft that we could talk about that just in terms 56 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 3: of what's going on with all these teams in Kyle 57 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:10,799 Speaker 3: Tucker right now. 58 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 1: But the Mets could mess could use a bat. 59 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 3: I prefer writing, but I'll take Kyle Tucker like, there's 60 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 3: no I don't see any harmy Giving Kyle Tucker, like 61 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:19,079 Speaker 3: a five year, one hundred and eighty five million dollar 62 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 3: deal probably probably starts two hundred. 63 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 2: I would think, right, you think you got you think 64 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 2: it's gotta be a forty million dollar a year. If 65 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 2: it's gonna be that much shorter than what he was 66 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 2: expecting coming into the offseason, it's. 67 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: Cool with me too. That's great. Kyle Tucker the weird 68 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: year last year. 69 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 3: I think he's getting I don't know, I think he's 70 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 3: I think there's Kyle Tucker fatigue, that Kyle Tucker underrated 71 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 3: right now. Halfway through the season last year before he 72 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:42,959 Speaker 3: had that slide where he slightly fractured his hand. They're 73 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 3: eighty three games, seventeen homers, twenty steals, neither or the ops. 74 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 2: In Wrigley, Like, that's those great numbers for lefty. 75 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like he's he's a great baseball player, and 76 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 3: the fact that he's not gonna get a twelve year 77 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 3: deal makes him that much more enticing. 78 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 2: Honestly, I feel like you mentioned it, like maybe it's 79 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 2: the fatigue he's being criminally under rated right now. We've 80 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 2: talked about on this channel before. But this is a 81 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 2: top twenty player in baseball. I feel like at the 82 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 2: absolute worst, and you can make conversations that at times 83 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 2: he has been a borderline top fifteen, top ten guys. 84 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 2: So I don't know yet, Like I don't know why. 85 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 2: I know why teams aren't interested. And it's the money 86 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 2: thing in the length that's always what it is. If 87 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 2: you're not the generational type players. It seems like right now, 88 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 2: you're not gonna be getting that length. But at the 89 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 2: same time, like this dude in this met's lineup would 90 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 2: do absolute wonders. I know it would be like a 91 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 2: little left left handed heavy, but at the same time, 92 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 2: don't really care. Kyle Tucker. Is that good? 93 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 3: No, And we also got another pretty interesting note from 94 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 3: the Will Salm and Ken roseenvel article. This is this 95 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 3: is the winter of Will Will Salmon's specific I will 96 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 3: shoutout Will, so if you guys have not been reading 97 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 3: every single word that Will Salmon is writing on the 98 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 3: Athletic this winter, like you're missing out because he's on 99 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 3: top of everything. But another again strange line about this 100 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 3: perception that Kyle Tucker is not exactly in love with 101 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 3: the game of baseball, or not that he's not in 102 00:03:58,000 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 3: love with the game baseball, just the fact he doesn't 103 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 3: really want the spotlight. It was about a link between 104 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 3: Kyle Tucker and the Dodgers. Yes, Tucker on say, a 105 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 3: four year deal with opt outs and a massive AAV 106 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 3: would be a classic Andrew Friedman ad Andrew for me 107 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 3: the Dodgers President Baseball Operations. The idea also might appeal 108 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 3: to Tucker's low key personality rather than the center of attention. 109 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 3: He would perhaps be the Dodgers' fifth or sixth biggest star. 110 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 3: So pulling two things from that. One, we have a 111 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 3: rumor about the Dodgers and the Mets and Kyle Tucker 112 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 3: on the same day. So let's let's stroke, let's try 113 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 3: and get some let's try and get some more money 114 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 3: on that contract. Two would be the same situation with 115 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 3: the Mets. He would be the third guy that people 116 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 3: look at in terms of star power, even in his 117 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 3: own starting lineups. It's if that is something that he 118 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 3: might want, we can also satisfy that craving. 119 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's weird. You always get nervous about the guys 120 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 2: who don't apparently love the spotlight, and New York City 121 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:49,919 Speaker 2: is the spotlight. The only other bigger one would be 122 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 2: the Dodgers, but because they have all the mega mega 123 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 2: superstars on that team, it is a little bit different. 124 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 2: But he is. He's just so good. Again. I really 125 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 2: come back to the idea of if the met are 126 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 2: truly interested, if David Sertins is truly interested, I do. 127 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:05,479 Speaker 2: I think we have a very good shot. I don't 128 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 2: remember what the percentage that I want that I put 129 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:09,840 Speaker 2: him down for But when we mentioned those three guys, 130 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 2: I said, what like thirty three percent? And I think 131 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 2: you got even more aggressive. I think you said like 132 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 2: forty or fifty. 133 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 3: I said forty. I'm just I'm just still expecting some 134 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:20,239 Speaker 3: level of a splash, like whether it be Tucker or Framber. 135 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 3: We just know this Mets team is going to spend 136 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 3: more money right now. 137 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: They have to. Right now. 138 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 3: The guaranteed players on the roster are only set to 139 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 3: make two hundred and forty four million dollars, and we've 140 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 3: all the arbitration guys that will get it added into that. 141 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 3: We have the dead money from Nemo, Jeff Frankie Montas, 142 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 3: which is which comes out to another like thirty million dollars. 143 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 3: But there's money to add, Like, I don't really expect 144 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 3: to go into the season undred three hundred million dollars, 145 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 3: and this of course will put those way over three 146 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 3: hundred million dollars. But we've ever since Eve come and 147 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 3: Bay the team, we've been the top three pay roll team. 148 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 3: Like I don't I don't see that. I don't see 149 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 3: that stopping. And there's so many players available, him being 150 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 3: the best one, the contract coming closer to where the 151 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 3: Mets want to live like it. 152 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 1: It just seems like it's kind of working out that 153 00:05:58,320 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: way a little bit. 154 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,720 Speaker 2: It also feels like the longer we wait, it's just 155 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 2: it's gonna reach It's gonna reach a price point that 156 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:05,479 Speaker 2: the Mets are gonna like. It's also gonna reach a 157 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 2: price point that the Dodgers are gonna like. So then 158 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 2: they'll go, yeah, they'll go bidding against each other again 159 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 2: at some point. But as every day ticks closer and 160 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 2: closer to spring training, it does point more. I feel 161 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 2: like in the Mets favor to bring in a guy 162 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 2: like Kyle Tucker, and the idea of having a one 163 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 2: two three in this lineup of being Lindor, Soto and Tucker. 164 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 2: That's that's arguably one of the best one two threes 165 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:27,599 Speaker 2: in baseball. 166 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 1: Oh definitely. 167 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:32,679 Speaker 3: And again, is this a pipe tream right now? Probably yeah, 168 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 3: but why not, Like, if you're into it, you're into it. 169 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 3: And the fact that there's a very good report or 170 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 3: reports of the Blue Jays team that's been the perceived 171 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 3: favorite after the Blue Jay's pulled in because Zumo Okamola 172 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 3: over the weekend, who now they're saying is probably going 173 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 3: to be the super utility man that lends itself more 174 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 3: that they probably favor Bobaschet, possibly because they might get 175 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 3: a shorter deal on him over Kyle Tucker. And all 176 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 3: of a sudden, the markets dries up fast for all 177 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 3: these guys kind of when one science, but they also 178 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 3: get more competitive for everybody else. It's it's strange offseason. Still, Yeah, 179 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 3: it's a strange offseason. 180 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 2: Also, there is there's nothing going on, Like I wish 181 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:07,359 Speaker 2: I could have more juice for you guys, but there's 182 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 2: This is the point of the off season every single 183 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:13,119 Speaker 2: year where normally James goes to Taiwan or Thailand or wherever. 184 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 2: Where do you go Philippines last year, Yeah, with the 185 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 2: Southeast Asia last year, Thailand and Vietnam. But like, at 186 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 2: the same time, there's there's nothing, there's nothing. We have 187 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 2: to take every single bit of news that we have 188 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 2: and talk about. And we've always said that Kyle Tucker 189 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 2: on a short term deal made sense for the Mets. 190 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 2: He makes sense for every single team in baseball, and 191 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 2: the fact that we have a little inkling of that, 192 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 2: we got to run with it. 193 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 3: Cody Bellinger, Fan Bravaldez, Like the Mets are probably going 194 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 3: to be involved with these guys, like we've been telling 195 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 3: you guys all winter, like at the price points and 196 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 3: to your point before about not a lot going on 197 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 3: in this part of the off season right now, but 198 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 3: still a lot could potentially happen. Did you catch the 199 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 3: other Will Salmon article that went on The Athletic on Monday? 200 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 2: No, I don't, I just I know. The other big 201 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 2: Mets news is that we signed Christian Arroyo for former 202 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 2: top prospect Christian Arroyo. Don't forget that. 203 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, the parade starts now Christian Royo about it's gonna 204 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 3: be the unbelievable shortstop of Syracuse. But it was a 205 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 3: mail bag article from Will and Tim Brittle. Okay, it 206 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 3: was a lot about the chaos of the Mets right now. 207 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 3: This is the first question was about the political climate 208 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 3: in the clubhouse. And there were questions about, you know, 209 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 3: is this a reset year? And there was another big 210 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 3: question something we've kind of alluded to in the past, 211 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 3: and this comes from Robs. 212 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: Steve Cohen was sold to us. 213 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 3: As a lifetime fan of the Mets, but specifically losing 214 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 3: someone like Pete Alonzo's enormous gut punch has actually turned 215 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 3: my children off from the team. There's no way to 216 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:37,719 Speaker 3: argue that team will be better without Pete, at least 217 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 3: for the next three or four seasons. Why the Mets, 218 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 3: specifically Cohen not value Pete and Tim went into a 219 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 3: bit of a diatribe about the fact that Steve wasn't exactly. 220 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 1: The biggest Met fan growing up. 221 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was more of Alex Steve, you know, kind 222 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 3: of a loser baseball fan, Yankees nicks like that kind 223 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 3: of thing. I thought that was interesting, an interesting little 224 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:59,079 Speaker 3: Talian article like this. Lots lots of good, good tidbits 225 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 3: in this article. So also, like, do you think is 226 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 3: realistic that we can get Frambervaldez ranger swaz to a 227 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 3: long term deal and will Samon goes a long deal 228 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 3: for Valdrez. 229 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 1: I don't see that happening. 230 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:10,959 Speaker 2: Yet, Like what that's That's one thing to talk about too, 231 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 2: is again the obsession with Mets fans and the starting pitching. 232 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 2: And again, we know what happened. It would be tone 233 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 2: deaf for us to think that starting pitching wasn't a 234 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 2: major reason why we didn't make the playoffs last year. 235 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 2: But again, doesn't mean we should go crazy and give 236 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 2: Framber Valde as a contract that you're gonna regret. Definitely 237 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 2: doesn't mean we should go crazy and give Ranger Swaz 238 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 2: a contract that we should go get. Unfortunately, for the players, 239 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 2: the teams have all the leverage in the current climate 240 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:35,439 Speaker 2: of the free agent market right now, Like the teams 241 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 2: don't have to sign you. You need to sign with 242 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 2: a team in order to get paid US currency next year. 243 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:43,959 Speaker 2: The longer they wait, the less power that these guys have, 244 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 2: Like there's no reason for the Mets to jump the gun. 245 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 2: We know Frambervalde is gonna be good next year. We 246 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:50,199 Speaker 2: know Ranger Swarez is gonna be good next year. We 247 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 2: even have an inkling that a guy that the Mets 248 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 2: missed out on that we haven't talked about on here yet, 249 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 2: Tatsui and I, was probably gonna be pretty good, better 250 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 2: than what the Mets had last season. Yes, but at 251 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 2: the same time, it's about the contract, what it looks 252 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 2: like in the future, and there there's just bigger plans 253 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 2: for this team. 254 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 3: I think, possibly even true with Kazuma Okamoda. I keep 255 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 3: getting confused because talk about these things in the wind up. 256 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 3: I know we haven't done a Mets up in like 257 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 3: a week. 258 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 2: Since then, it's been a full like almost like eight 259 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 2: or nine days since we recorded I think an episode 260 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 2: for Mets up, because we did a lot before we 261 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 2: you know, the new year, like all the Japanese players 262 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 2: are moving on what looked like very very attainable contracts 263 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 2: like Emai's was dirt cheap, Okamotos is gonna end up 264 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 2: being cheap. Murakami was basically nothing. That was a coin 265 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 2: flip at that point. Like these contracts also kind of 266 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 2: tells you where the rest of baseball felt for these 267 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 2: guys too, Like this isn't just the Mets being anti 268 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 2: them or being afraid to give out the money for 269 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 2: these guys. 270 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 3: Totally, especially a guy like Imai, where he theoretically signed 271 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 3: a one year, seventeen million dollar contract, it can go 272 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 3: up to twenty one. 273 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: Million dollars with his with his why what's it called. 274 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 3: I can't remember the escalators escalator's incentives for throwing more 275 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 3: innings or he cannot back in if he doesn't do that, 276 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:57,959 Speaker 3: and it could be a max max three year, sixty 277 00:10:57,960 --> 00:10:59,079 Speaker 3: three million dollar contract. 278 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: That's like Taiwan Walker money. 279 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 2: That's like the Luis Severino guy again from a team 280 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 2: that doesn't spend money. 281 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 3: Same abe as Franky mantzas last year. But it's like, 282 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 3: that's that's kind of the sense of who tas, who. 283 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 1: AMAI is right now. 284 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 3: I know that the initial projections of him to start 285 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 3: the offseason we're closing in an eight for two hundred, 286 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 3: wound up being nowhere even remotely in the same not 287 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 3: even the same ballpark, and I have the same state, 288 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 3: they the sound, the same galaxy as that. 289 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:23,559 Speaker 2: The Boys had that first guy. 290 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:24,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, we did. 291 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 3: But even still even up to the last week, I 292 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 3: was like, he probably still gets four or five year deal. Yes, 293 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 3: that part's fair, and maybe maybe other teams were in 294 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 3: on Yimai, but the fact that the Astros often the 295 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 3: opportunity to go into the free market one year later, 296 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 3: maybe that was a deciding factor. But also we kind 297 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 3: of had reports that Me's didn't even seem kind of interested, 298 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 3: Yankees didn't even seem kind of interested. Two teams that 299 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 3: could really use a starting pitcher with a milecame of 300 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 3: upside and a nice floor. 301 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 2: Along with all the other teams major League Baseball that 302 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 2: could use starting pitching. 303 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: Every single team like these. 304 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 3: The other thing that happens as part of the offseason 305 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 3: is that the guys with the qualifying offers are just 306 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 3: stuck in the mud. Like I know Bellingium Regman don't 307 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 3: have them, but everybody else It's just like, Wow, these 308 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:06,079 Speaker 3: teams do not want to sacrifice the assets, the draft pick, 309 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 3: the International slop pool money, especially the teams like the Mets. 310 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:10,839 Speaker 3: They're going to be over the luxury tax because the 311 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 3: sharper penalty. It's it's it's really it's just slow right now. 312 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 2: It was really so slow. It is an absolute slog 313 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 2: Is there is there anything that people can look forward to? 314 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 2: Do we have anything? 315 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: Well, I mean we've got Bill Madden, that's sure. 316 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 2: Bill Madden did tell us like because uh, one of 317 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 2: the aggregators tweet. Aggregators have been on fire this week. 318 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 2: I'll tip the cap. Oh awesome, some of the best 319 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 2: slop that I've seen in a really long time. We 320 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 2: got one comparing the Mets and the Yankees and be like, 321 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 2: I think the Mets might actually be better than the Yankees, 322 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 2: and everyone's like, who cares, it doesn't matter. They don't 323 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 2: compete with each other. But Bill Madden quote tweeted about 324 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 2: the rosters and it was like, you know this Mets 325 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 2: team's not too far off from being better than the Yankees. 326 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 2: And we've said something like what stay tuned, stay tuned, Yeah, 327 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,719 Speaker 2: which Bill Madden. Bill Madden's been early and right to 328 00:12:56,880 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 2: basically every massive piece of news in the Mets world, 329 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 2: like the last two or three years, when and when 330 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 2: no one else has leaks like this is kind of 331 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 2: what winds up happening. 332 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 3: But again, like I can't lose the fact in my 333 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 3: mind that the Mets are going to do things like 334 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 3: the Mets going to and again I. 335 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:12,079 Speaker 1: Think they will. 336 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of Mets fans right now 337 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 3: that kind of want to be doing me and gloomy. 338 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 3: And that's fair, for sure, everyone can do whatever they want, 339 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 3: Like that's okay, but there's just there's so many free 340 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 3: agents on the market right now. 341 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 2: Like what's really cool about what's going on right now 342 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 2: is that if you are dooming gloom you can kind 343 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 2: you can kind of forget about the Mets for like 344 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 2: a week or two and like relax and not this podcast, 345 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 2: not this podcast. You always listen to us, of course, 346 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 2: but like you theoretically like probably could turn off your 347 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 2: Mets brain except for the Mets. The podcast for about 348 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 2: two weeks, and you wouldn't miss anything, I don't think again, 349 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 2: you'd be missing like Christian Arroyo getting signed. 350 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 3: No, And like we're not even getting like the depth 351 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 3: bullpen signings right now still and we still have a 352 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 3: very incomplete bullpen. But this is a very this is 353 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 3: traditionally a slow week because this is the last week 354 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:57,679 Speaker 3: of arbitration figures being exchanged. So this probably is a 355 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 3: week we're a little bit less than we all often 356 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 3: expect could be happening. But there's there's like a hundred 357 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 3: war left projected war left on players in the free 358 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 3: agent market right now. Like it's a really still quite 359 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:10,959 Speaker 3: a good class with a lot of impact players out there. 360 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:13,319 Speaker 3: And again it still starts and ends with Kyle Tucker. 361 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 3: Like at worst with Kyle Tucker. I really think the 362 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:18,719 Speaker 3: floor on a five year deal for Kyle Tucker is 363 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 3: like thirty percent better than the league average. 364 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 2: With the bat, it's like a five win player and. 365 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 3: A slightly below average defender. Yeah probably, Yeah, Like I'll 366 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 3: see a fight. He was a five win player last 367 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 3: year and he wasn't even that good for half of 368 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 3: the season and he missed three weeks through the injury 369 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 3: two years ago. He was a five win player. He 370 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 3: was a four win player. He only played seventy eight games. 371 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 3: Like this is I don't know. I think the I 372 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 3: think the world's overthinking Kyle Tucker a tiny bit right now. 373 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 2: This is the weird spot where like we love eggs 374 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 2: of you Loo, we love baseball savant, we love seeing 375 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 2: that stuff, and I think it's good. But at times 376 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 2: for a guy who like I don't think Kyle Tucker 377 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 2: does anything bad. Right, there's no real bad numbers from 378 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 2: Kyle Tucker. He just might not have the elite, elite 379 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 2: elite stuff that you see, but the numbers have just 380 00:14:58,320 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 2: been good year in and year out. 381 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 3: It is strange that his bat speed has drifted like 382 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 3: it's just it's just not elite like you want to 383 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 3: see elite bat speed. Like it's kind of oscillly between 384 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 3: like seventy one and a half and seventy two and 385 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 3: a half for the last few years. 386 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 2: You'd like, also, bet we also know that that can change. 387 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 2: The Blue Jays just did it. They took the corpse 388 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 2: of George Springer's body and he just all of a 389 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 2: sudden became an elite hitter again. 390 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 3: I think cale Talker's played. He played most of last 391 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 3: year injured. He said that like he got crapped the 392 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 3: year before because he didn't play through what was a 393 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 3: bit of a we don't know how bad that ashers 394 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 3: are weird with that stuff. Yeah, it seemed like a 395 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 3: take attack injury, a hairline fraction of shame. 396 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: We don't really know. 397 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 3: And then last year he had the again another I 398 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 3: don't know why this guy keeps getting airline fractures, but. 399 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 2: Maybe that was scared. 400 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: Maybe that's the problem. 401 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 3: Not enough milk on this slide the second phase, the 402 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 3: hairline fraction on the top of his hand, and he 403 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 3: didn't hit on the run for like months after Again 404 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 3: he was on almost a forty home run pace in 405 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 3: a difficult park for left handed hitters to home run 406 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 3: off of the year before, when through the first half 407 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 3: of the season he was on a forty home run pace. 408 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 3: Maybe maybe he just got a lot better and we 409 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 3: didn't realize because of weird circumstances the last two years. 410 00:15:57,320 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 3: Like it'd be such a steal to get him again, 411 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 3: like a five for two it would be. And again 412 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 3: he could play the outfield for a few years, and 413 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 3: you want you want to pick up a first basement 414 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 3: in two years. 415 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 2: Us. 416 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, it doesn't mean he did a lot through the minors. 417 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 3: He did in twenty nineteen for a little while. Like 418 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 3: there's also does he play left field? 419 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: A right field? 420 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 2: Again? 421 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 3: I don't care who cares, doesn't matter, it doesn't matter. 422 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 3: He could play left. He's definitely good enough to do it. 423 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 3: I don't think so of the is good enough to 424 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 3: play left. But it's just, oh god, we need I 425 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 3: need some juice, right, I need some action from this 426 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 3: Mets team. 427 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: I just want some I want some signings. 428 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 3: I'm trusting the process, but man, I want something to 429 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 3: go down. Even that rumor that went out but the 430 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 3: Yankees Edward Cabrera that people were like obsessed with that 431 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 3: for eight hours, and Craig Mish Marlins beat rather was like, 432 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 3: it's not even close to having what are you guys 433 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 3: talking about. 434 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 2: It's like, no, this is not going on. It's just 435 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 2: the the baseball world is starred for news, and I 436 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 2: can't I can't wait for the conversations from people like 437 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 2: we need a free agent deadline, all the all the 438 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 2: nonsense rumors and takes that are gonna come out. No, 439 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 2: bad can't do that to the players, they will literally 440 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 2: never make any money. 441 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 3: No, and again, just go back to this. Everyone should 442 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 3: read again both these Will Salmon articles, this one with 443 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 3: Tim Britton. 444 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 2: Maybe we gotta get Will on. Maybe this's what we 445 00:16:57,600 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 2: do see if we can get will on this week. 446 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: Love to reach out to will see and get him on. 447 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: Here we go. 448 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 3: Do you think sterns and cohen Ce twenty twenty six 449 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:06,120 Speaker 3: out of a transition year from Marquez and Tim goes 450 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 3: On The day he was introduced as the Mets present 451 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 3: base operations October twenty twenty three, Stern said, I don't 452 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 3: know that I would ever say that year here should 453 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 3: be a recent year. 454 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 1: I think that's a good reminder for all of us. 455 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 3: Yes, because we still have one so over Cisco Lindor 456 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 3: and then Tim expanded. 457 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 1: Would look like it would be a recent year. 458 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 3: In twenty twenty four ended with the team's best season 459 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 3: in the last decade. This is the changing of the 460 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:28,880 Speaker 3: guard season. But when the Mets still feel should include 461 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 3: postseason play, yea, that is where we're at. 462 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:34,959 Speaker 2: I totally think that. I I don't know where people 463 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 2: have gotten the idea that the Mets are not interested 464 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 2: in being the postseason not trying to be a postseason 465 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:41,360 Speaker 2: team that seemingly came out of nowhere, and I got 466 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 2: to assume it's coming from the mutants on a WFA N. Yeah, 467 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 2: I was gonna say, I think that's fully Joe Biningo 468 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:48,880 Speaker 2: doing that, right, it's shout out Joebeningo though. I mean, 469 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 2: the guy was like an insane caller who became a 470 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 2: radio host. I love Jobingo, Joepiningo got me through my 471 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 2: my maybe not the best guy, no what maybe not 472 00:17:57,359 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 2: the best guy, but okay, the best guy. That's not 473 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 2: what I as a radio host when yeah, like twenty 474 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 2: three years old, delivering pizza. 475 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 3: I was like, I love listening to joke Ingo. Oh 476 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 3: he's he's an absolute, he's entertainment. He's entertainment to the fullest. Yeah, 477 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 3: And just there's just this it's hard to get past 478 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 3: this impatience though. Right now, you really just want something 479 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 3: to happen, You really want something to be done. Like 480 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 3: what's like if you look at the regular figures of 481 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:20,919 Speaker 3: the Mets world right now. The thing is they've been 482 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 3: tweeting recently. It's just it's just sad. 483 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 2: Maybe maybe this is when we get back on the metstuff. 484 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 2: Twitter and see what we can get away with. 485 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: Right now, we'll just start crazy stuff. 486 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 2: Okay, want to like plan a tweet on the podcast. 487 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 2: See if people get in on the joke. What's something 488 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 2: that we're gonna tweet in the next week. You come 489 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 2: up with one, I'll come up with one. 490 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 3: We can say something about like is this the Mets 491 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 3: new starting ace or METSI a new starting picture? Is 492 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 3: just that picture of grim is is holding the ball. 493 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 2: That's a good one. I like that, something that's good. 494 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 2: I think. I think definitely a mock trade goes in 495 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 2: there where I'm I'm gonna include Kevin Parata. There's no 496 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 2: doubt Kevin Parata for a good player for Freddie Peralta. 497 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, Kevin Parada, Kevin Prava and Matthew Allen who's not 498 00:18:57,840 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 3: in the organization anymore. 499 00:18:59,040 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 1: For Freddie Parolta. 500 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 2: I'm and I'm definitely on that. That's a good one 501 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 2: we do. 502 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 1: Can we do one more joke? 503 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:04,880 Speaker 2: Oh wait? 504 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 1: How about like the Mets need to bring back Jose Gleasias. 505 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 2: Yes, or I heard the Mets need a left handed 506 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:12,439 Speaker 2: or right handed hitting outfielder and Jose Iglacias shragg and 507 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 2: fly balls there he goes go. 508 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: One, Hey, look at us. If we just want to tweet, 509 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:16,679 Speaker 1: we could just think about a couple right there on 510 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 1: the spot. 511 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 2: That's how it works. You guys just saw the intermachinations 512 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 2: of our brains. 513 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:24,160 Speaker 1: Oh but just man, something's gotta happen. I just want something. 514 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:27,120 Speaker 1: The whole league wants something to happen right now. 515 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 2: Just for some context, we we're gonna be putting out 516 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 2: episodes we have to. 517 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 1: That's that's how this works. 518 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 2: If you guys have any ideas for something creative and 519 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,640 Speaker 2: fun that you would like to see, tweet at us, 520 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 2: hit us up on Instagram. Let us know in the 521 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 2: comment section. We were happy to get some great Maybe 522 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 2: maybe this is out of the park Baseball week. 523 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 3: Maybe that's what this is that could be out of 524 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 3: the park baseball. We could be an idea for guests. 525 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:48,199 Speaker 3: If you guys have ideas for guests, let us know 526 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 3: in the comments. If you go, especially guests that we've 527 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 3: had on the past, guys like Trevor may Well, Sam 528 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 3: and Daniel Murphy. Guys that we are connected with. Just 529 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 3: you guys, let us know what you want to hear, 530 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 3: because we will keep. 531 00:19:58,119 --> 00:19:58,919 Speaker 1: The content coming. 532 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 2: I I don't know what's gonna be no clue and 533 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:04,479 Speaker 2: if if there's anybody out there with an inkling of anything, 534 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 2: let us know you can come on through. Why not? 535 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 1: Yeah? 536 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 3: Please again? Maybe that could be a mailback episode of 537 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:11,199 Speaker 3: the People, another voicem episode. It's been a while for Oh, 538 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 3: voicemails could be good. So we'll do in the hopper 539 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 3: right and now just just let you guys know. Love 540 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 3: the transparency we're doing with you guys, that's the best. 541 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 2: I mean, we have to find a way to talk 542 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 2: about something. 543 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:21,959 Speaker 3: And pull up the new members shoutouts, who oh we 544 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 3: want to do those two got an insane amount so 545 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 3: many members. 546 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 1: Thank you guys all so much for that. 547 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 3: But just so probably a guest soon an out of 548 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:30,439 Speaker 3: the park baseball and what was the other one we 549 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 3: just said, and some kind of mailbag voicemail episode. 550 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 2: Okay, let's pull up the mets up members. Really good 551 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 2: podcasting here, just talking to you guys through it. We 552 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 2: got so many appreciate you guys. Remember if you are 553 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 2: a member, you get access to the videos early. And 554 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 2: I know the Prospect one was just sitting for members 555 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 2: only for forever and which was your fault? That was 556 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 2: my fault. I forgot to upload it all right. Uh, 557 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 2: let's see the last update. When do you think we 558 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 2: last read out members. 559 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: It's definitely before the prospects of Okay, let's see. 560 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 2: I'm trying to and it's probably the eighteen days ago. 561 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:04,880 Speaker 2: I think was probably the last group. So we're gonna 562 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 2: go through. We were up to eighty members. Appreciate you, guys. 563 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 2: Shout out Reggie Hank, m Meon, John Saint Clair, Daniel Godley, 564 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:16,400 Speaker 2: h l Oh, Let's go Rangers, Let's go Mets, Andrew Spagnolo, 565 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 2: Matt Michael Levinson, road Castello, K Game, r x I, 566 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 2: d x L, Josewey, Reyes, Meddi one one five C 567 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 2: C Cruiser, Ration's cousin. I gotta make sure these are 568 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 2: safe to say online. David Baumel I am serious, ghost 569 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 2: Killer n I shout out ghost Face Killer, LFGM, Colin Bryan, Joshua, Margolize, 570 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 2: Kevin Westfall Wave a FI Wreck, you got in there, 571 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 2: wreck reck Rekia, Rekkia, Stimson Kyler. I think he got 572 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 2: on the last one, but you're a legend. Coops MZ 573 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:53,439 Speaker 2: eight f Y. Thank you guys all so much for 574 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,479 Speaker 2: being members. We really do appreciate it. And that's it. 575 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 2: We got nothing else. There's there's nothing else we could 576 00:21:58,560 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 2: talk about. 577 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 1: No, that's it. We got twenty five minutes out of it. 578 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:01,959 Speaker 2: Though. 579 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 1: And again everyone read those two Will Sam articles. They're 580 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 1: both gold. 581 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 2: Well, I'll link them. I'll link them to the description. 582 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:08,239 Speaker 2: Guys can click those there if you want to read them. 583 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 2: Shout out, well, there's no way you're gonna link in 584 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 2: the description. We'll find out. We'll find out. And if 585 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 2: we don't, I want to see comments. Apparently I didn't 586 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:16,679 Speaker 2: like to link the discord either last time, so I'll 587 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:21,479 Speaker 2: go down there. You need reminders. That's it, guys, Subscribe, listen, 588 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,880 Speaker 2: follow James, James, Giana Draftnick Mark. We'll see you guys 589 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 2: next time. 590 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: Peace out, go Metz