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Speaker 1: You did come out at one point and say that

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Speaker 2: God insane a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Doctor Umar has access to no money right now, if

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Speaker 3: Apple pay a PayPal.

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Speaker 1: For the first time in your career, you asked for

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Speaker 3: So my personal account is froze and the school's account

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Speaker 3: is FROs.

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Speaker 4: FDMG academy bank accounts are still frozen. Doctor Umar's personal

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Speaker 4: bank account is still frozen. Brothers and sisters, we are

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Speaker 4: fighting this war against FDMG.

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Speaker 2: And I didn't know how long they was going to

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Speaker 3: Did they give you a reason? No, I still don't

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Speaker 3: have a reason. I'm going to my supporter. I'm not

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Speaker 3: going to the world. The world got to hear it,

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Speaker 3: but I'm going to my supporters and sam Yo, I

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Speaker 3: as soon as they started to help me, Apple paid me.

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Speaker 3: I'm more mad at my supporters in Black America than

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Speaker 3: I am at the struggle streamers and cyber Watts. I

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Speaker 3: shouldn't have to fight them. They hits, but figuratively their

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Speaker 3: heads should already be cut off.

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Speaker 1: Consequences Are you ignoring the fact though, that genuinely some

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Speaker 1: of your supporters doubt has crept in because of the

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Speaker 1: timeline up towards Frederick Douglass Mark you was trying to

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Speaker 1: run too, You'd rather just accept donation side.

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Speaker 2: For the fact that Olmar Johnson's a scamper, the inevitable

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Speaker 2: has happened. Exists have the right to know exactly how

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Speaker 5: If his intention was so upen to school, why would

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Speaker 2: There's not gonna be fbmgs not going to jo that

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Speaker 2: are trying to pull some legal moves on you.

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Speaker 3: They're not supporters the people who are out there. First

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Speaker 3: of all, I'm not under no federal investigation.

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Speaker 2: That's a lot. They are haters masquerading as supporters.

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Speaker 5: Look, they say, this guy's the limit. I'm going farther

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Speaker 5: than that. She get doing on my phone, so I

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Speaker 5: called her mama, come and get your daughter back. They

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Speaker 5: want a little better than get them boys wagon what

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Speaker 5: lil and I bush your brain?

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Speaker 2: But get all that.

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Speaker 5: They say, this guy's a limb.

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Speaker 2: I'm going father.

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Speaker 5: You can try to, but can't Kim. I'm a bad

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Speaker 5: I just bought it. Life as I did it side

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Speaker 5: come with that art, you lads, the reason you broke

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Speaker 5: You don't know a horse trying it ain't normal stress

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Speaker 5: something red run red dye, hitty drop one twelve, come down.

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Speaker 5: You know, I'm looking to the bullets, asking for a

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Speaker 2: To the wildness and nail comes right with my dogs.

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Speaker 5: Trying to nail something and done you and he got

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Speaker 1: Sure, let's talk about f DMG for no before before

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Speaker 1: we get the FDMG. You did come out at one

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Speaker 3: It and where it stands now, Well, we got d banked,

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Speaker 3: but the bank kept giving us the run around. First

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Speaker 3: assuming the struggle streamers contacted the bank and accused me

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Speaker 3: they said, we was looking into your account, but you're

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Speaker 3: But we were a black bank now, so I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: because of my personal political views. You follow what I'm saying,

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Speaker 3: goes to show white folks, look, hey, nothing about you.

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Speaker 2: To Yeah, we're gonna get to that.

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Speaker 1: I want to deal with the with the bank side first, because,

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Speaker 1: were reacting because for the first time in your career,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because I was de banked too. In other words,

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Speaker 3: So my personal account is froze and the school's account

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Speaker 3: going to be froze. Did they give you a reason? No,

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Speaker 3: I still don't have a reason to this. Guess what

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Speaker 3: they said They didn't have to supply one.

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Speaker 1: Yes. Wow, So you're dbanked and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 3: Money froze with no promise of when it's going to

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Speaker 3: that date came and I still ain't got my money.

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Speaker 3: So I'm calling around the lawyers and everything, and the

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Speaker 2: I said what he said, Yeah, them bank hard to

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Speaker 3: But he was telling me like, well them banks, you

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Speaker 3: gotta be careful. He said he heard the banks were

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Speaker 3: be careful with these banks, man. Yeah, he said, the

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Speaker 3: I bet they can.

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Speaker 2: Straight heave you.

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Speaker 3: You could be a multi millionaire and be broken shit

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Speaker 3: mess up with these banks, bro.

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Speaker 1: Yes, So so your d bank you receive you just

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Speaker 1: did you receive a letter?

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Speaker 2: Did you go try to access you? How was I

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Speaker 3: I think I was sending my cousin like fifty bucks

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Speaker 2: That's up? What did it? I called a bank? Why's

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Speaker 3: Oh, you're a counselor not accessible right now for what

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Speaker 3: we're currently reviewing them for what. I don't know, only central.

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Speaker 2: They're told not to say nothing. Yeah, yeah, you feel me.

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Speaker 2: So I was in limbo, damn.

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Speaker 1: So, and you know what it's It's interesting because when

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Speaker 2: We're not going to act like weaponize everything, but weaponize

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but this time, this time it led into some

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Speaker 2: Was bad time. It didn't bother you at it, and

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you why.

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Speaker 3: Like, in order to understand me, the one thing people

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Speaker 2: Is I believe I was born to do what I'm doing.

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Speaker 3: And because of that, there's a thin layer of protection

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Speaker 3: through a whole lot these sixteen years that I've been global, right,

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Speaker 2: Man, they're real. You can feel me. They're real.

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Speaker 3: And I think that as long as I stay true

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Speaker 3: that in a divination. Babla Babo said, listen, your ancestors

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Speaker 3: he said, the success of your school is largely contingent

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Speaker 2: It opens up. Right.

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Speaker 3: So, because I believe I was born to do what

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Speaker 3: hard time convincing me that I'm related to Frederick Douglass

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Speaker 2: Do you feel me? You feel divine this whole thing?

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Speaker 2: Come on, man, come, he's a speaker, he's a writer.

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Speaker 2: I'm a speaker. I'm a writer. Before I knew I was.

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Speaker 2: You following them?

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Speaker 3: Since you could argue that our family might be the

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Speaker 3: You got Frederick Douglas, You got his two sons, Lewis

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Speaker 1: Out you feel Hey, yeah, bet y'all check, let's check

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Speaker 1: that out as a family.

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Speaker 3: Yes, my grandfather, George, first black public school teacher, and

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Speaker 3: You see, this is the cousin of Frederick Douglass and

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 3: I don't think there's another family in black history that

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Speaker 3: grandson did a little activism. I was supposed to meet

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Speaker 3: him before he passed. Mackholm's father was a president for Gorvey.

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Speaker 3: He was a Garvey leader. I believe his grandfather did

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Speaker 3: some work, right, but that ain't six. And then you

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Speaker 3: got the Malcolm girls, right, Yep, yep, you got doctor King,

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Speaker 3: doctor King brother, doctor King father, doctor King Graham.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 3: So Malcolm, they got a pretty strong lineage. King got

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Speaker 3: a pretty strong lineage. You got a few more Booker T.

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Speaker 3: Washington got a nice little lineage. Even with them, I

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Speaker 3: don't think nobody messing with the Belly dynasty.

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Speaker 2: We got them, we got them.

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Speaker 1: But even for this generation, you carrying the flag so high, Yes,

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Speaker 1: like with the King family, and it's like, we know

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Speaker 1: y'all there, We love y'all, support y'all.

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Speaker 2: Front and center. You ain't front and center. You're just

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Speaker 2: not on the market.

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Speaker 3: Me and Frederick Douglass is enough take us to who

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Speaker 3: got to like that?

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Speaker 2: You feel me?

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Speaker 1: So that's what I want to speak about, right, Because

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Speaker 1: what you have been doing over the last sixteen years

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Speaker 1: and you end up being de banked, does that worry you?

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Speaker 2: Do you?

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Speaker 3: Like I was bothered because I've been with the bank

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Speaker 3: since I was fourteen, so it was kind of sentimental.

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Speaker 3: I got my first summage out my working papers with them.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, damn, y'all just but it was a good

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Speaker 3: wake up call because I already knew white supremacy, but

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Speaker 3: when you go through.

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Speaker 2: It, you're on a different level of war.

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Speaker 2: Its understanding my level of fight?

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Speaker 3: It doesn't really worry me because I've seen it all

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Speaker 1: Do you think your rhetoric and what you've done over

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Speaker 2: They're watching. So what I'm saying is and they do

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Speaker 3: Okay, the confessions in that Turner I'm born August twenty first,

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Speaker 1: When you did have that scenario, because we're gonna move

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Speaker 3: The person going online has done more to help black

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Speaker 3: doctor Umar. And I've done it mostly for free. You

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Speaker 1: You actually started to get money coming in and Apple paid.

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Speaker 2: D bank you. I can't use Apple pay no more

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Speaker 3: They didn't give me a reason either. They're not required to.

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Speaker 2: That's heavy without reason. This is happening to.

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Speaker 3: You cash at dbanked me and de banked FDMG, go

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Speaker 3: fund me debanked f DMG. All this because of struggle

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Speaker 3: streamer cyber thought interference in slander. You gotta remember, they

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Speaker 3: don't want me to succeed anyway. So if your people

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Speaker 2: Clear exactly, We'll go ahead and clear. Yeah. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 2: why I'm one. That's the sad part of that said.

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Speaker 3: You know what, I'm more mad at. I'm more mad

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Speaker 3: the struggle streamers and cyber watts and conscious jealous personalities

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Speaker 3: because I shouldn't have to fight them. I do too

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Speaker 3: much for us to have to worry about them. Yes,

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Speaker 3: they heads, not literally but figuratively. Their heads should already

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Speaker 2: His name.

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Speaker 3: Don't come out of your mouth again, or it's consequences.

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Speaker 3: The saddest thing about genuine black leadership, the Kings, the Malcolms,

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Speaker 2: Are you ignoring the fact though, that.

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Speaker 1: Genuinely some of your supporters doubt has crept in because

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Speaker 2: Nah, you still don't believe. Nope.

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Speaker 3: And the reason why I don't because my supporters have

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Speaker 3: Most of our supporters are repeat, don'tor the doubt is

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Speaker 2: I don't care anything. They all saw speaking about like that.

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Speaker 1: There's a section of supporters that are not so happy,

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Speaker 3: They're not supporters the people who are out there. First

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Speaker 3: of all, I'm not under no federal investigation.

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Speaker 2: That's a lie.

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Speaker 3: Okay, struggle stream allives, and the people putting it out

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Speaker 2: Wow. See they see what they're pedaling is there's a

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Speaker 3: Is we're the supporters and we got issues. That's all lies.

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Speaker 3: They are haters masquerading as supporters, jealousy and envy.

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Speaker 1: In your heart. You don't believe there's any supporters. They're saying, Doc,

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Speaker 3: I believe the ones who follow because they've always been

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's blind faith, and we don't want to.

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Speaker 3: It ain't blind faith because they see the school, and

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Speaker 3: including the setbacks. They've never been in the dark. You

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Speaker 3: gotta remember now, I give what three hundred speeches a year.

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Speaker 3: I'm the most requested Black scholar in the world, bar none.

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Speaker 3: Most popular Pan Africanist in the world, bar none. The

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Speaker 3: Most credential, most popular, most loved, most hated, most everything.

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Speaker 3: So people get to hear me regularly. So the updates.

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Speaker 3: You could probably go to a doctor umar supporter, a

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Speaker 3: They could probably tell you this happened, this happened, This happened,

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Speaker 2: H fact, you know what, and you know I rock

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Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is I just I don't think

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Speaker 2: I disagree. I think some of them are because.

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Speaker 3: They have to redefine supporter then, because maybe you're talking

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Speaker 3: We know everybody, so you see.

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Speaker 2: What I'm saying. And this is how I get to

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Speaker 2: first question? I need your name? How did you donate? Cash?

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Speaker 2: App check?

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Speaker 3: When was your last donation? Because we got it recorded,

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Speaker 3: let me look you up, and then I look them up.

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Speaker 3: You don't even exist.

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Speaker 2: And you know what. Another thing I want to speak

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Speaker 3: And then when people talk about how long, right, that's

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Speaker 3: this to this your homeschool, that's your basement. That ain't

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Speaker 3: This is real buildings here, this is a real school

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Speaker 2: Right, a room. It's like church. Right, I got a

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Speaker 3: This church and then there's church, right, there's schools and

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Speaker 2: We have a school.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, do you think with everything

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Speaker 1: A lot of people they are form a confederacy because

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Speaker 1: But I do want to clarify something because when they

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Speaker 1: A lot of people are saying that at a certain

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Speaker 2: They got the dates wrong.

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Speaker 1: So they're using a date of an upload date on

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Speaker 3: Okay, so the numbers I heard it possible. The number

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Speaker 5: Bro.

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Speaker 2: I've heard five, I've heard eight. I've heard too.

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Speaker 3: If we had that money, both schools to be done,

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Speaker 3: what what are we talking about?

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Speaker 2: If I got that brown, we already opened it running.

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Speaker 5: Bro.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, do you see why with everything you're going through

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Speaker 2: Do you see why people go to charter school? Rup? Oh?

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Speaker 3: For sure, it's easy. It's government money. But they control

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Speaker 3: you though. Remember the school we own, Loom, was a

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Speaker 2: They took their charter, They accused them of financial mismanagement

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Speaker 2: and shut them down. I'm not giving the white man

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00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:21,919
Speaker 2: that power over me. They can still shut you out

442
00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,040
Speaker 2: for some other fake stuff, right, But it ain't gonna

443
00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:27,399
Speaker 2: It ain't gona because I don't money. We did this with.

444
00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:28,560
Speaker 2: Think about this though.

445
00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:32,080
Speaker 1: That's why I was gonna ask you money self determination.

446
00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,320
Speaker 1: That's why I want to know. How important is that

447
00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:36,680
Speaker 1: victory left gonna.

448
00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:36,840
Speaker 2: Be for you?

449
00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:43,960
Speaker 3: It's important because people heard me say what we need

450
00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:47,680
Speaker 3: to do. It's something else to see you do it. Yeah,

451
00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,560
Speaker 3: because if you look at anybody else in the conscious community,

452
00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,240
Speaker 3: and I say this humbly and with respect to them all,

453
00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,679
Speaker 3: because they still members of the African race, whether they

454
00:21:56,720 --> 00:22:01,120
Speaker 3: identify with it or not. None of them are building

455
00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:06,199
Speaker 3: a relevant institution. You cannot name me anybody in the

456
00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:10,400
Speaker 3: conscious community of the United States. I don't care what ideology,

457
00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:18,880
Speaker 3: what religion, what they claim, who's building a relevant institution? School, bank, hospital, supermarket,

458
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:20,400
Speaker 3: manufacturing distribution.

459
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 2: You feel me. I'm the only one, and I'm the

460
00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:25,640
Speaker 2: busiest one. So what excuse do you have? Now?

461
00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:29,159
Speaker 3: When the school open, Loom, The questions get different for

462
00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:32,640
Speaker 3: them now because once they see FDMG open, now they're

463
00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:34,119
Speaker 3: gonna go to him and say, look, brother, you've been

464
00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:37,800
Speaker 3: talking as long as doctor Umar. What institution you got,

465
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,359
Speaker 3: because that ain't it? What institution you're gonna build?

466
00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:40,679
Speaker 2: You?

467
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,520
Speaker 3: If doctor umam more popular than all y'all put together,

468
00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,200
Speaker 3: he speaks more than all y'all put together, He more

469
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,880
Speaker 3: credential than all y'all put together. If he can give

470
00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:53,560
Speaker 3: us a school starting without a penny, what you gonna

471
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,280
Speaker 3: get me? See, the reason they wanted to stop it,

472
00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 3: Loom is because in their minds, I was already too big.

473
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 3: He don't need nothing else. Now with this, it's a rap. Now,

474
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,320
Speaker 3: this a big deal, But I didn't do it for that.

475
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 2: Because people be asking me.

476
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 3: Now that the school is done, all the renovations is done,

477
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:13,440
Speaker 3: we still got a pass inspection. That's gonna be a

478
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 3: whole nother fight. You fail me, But I'm going to

479
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:16,639
Speaker 3: go into a positive because you know, now they got

480
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 3: to come through what they find too, Jack Jack Jack, Yeah,

481
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,960
Speaker 3: but what I have to tell beeocause they stopped me

482
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:23,399
Speaker 3: in the airport.

483
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,480
Speaker 2: Ain't you glad you shut up the haters? First of all?

484
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,359
Speaker 2: Didn't shut up the haters. They're gonna find something else, yes, right,

485
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,120
Speaker 2: But I didn't do this for them.

486
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,600
Speaker 3: The focus has always been black boys and that's what

487
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:35,600
Speaker 3: it's gonna stay.

488
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:36,879
Speaker 2: Right now that that's a blessing.

489
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,639
Speaker 1: And again I'm rooting for you always like I always

490
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 1: been rooting for the school.

491
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:41,680
Speaker 2: It's a beautiful idea.

492
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,200
Speaker 1: A couple of different things before we pivot off of

493
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:49,400
Speaker 1: the accounts and things being frozen. Also on the Joe

494
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,200
Speaker 1: Budden podcast, Mark Lamont He'll said he reached out to

495
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 1: you during that time. I just want to get your.

496
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 2: We haven't spoken. I think he did text me got

497
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,520
Speaker 2: out to Mark Lamont here, but we have sure for sure.

498
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 1: Also in that moment when the accounts were frozen, there

499
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 1: was another altercation where on the schools in women'son Delaware,

500
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,199
Speaker 1: there were two papers. The papers were presented by the

501
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 1: state and city. The city, I'm sorry, you said that

502
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 1: they were trying to sell the school from up under

503
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 1: notice simultaneously with your accounts.

504
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 2: Are you going to tell me that's a coincidence, I'm

505
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:25,640
Speaker 2: asking you.

506
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:29,720
Speaker 1: I'm telling you there's a war going on safe outside.

507
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,480
Speaker 1: There's a war going on outside that no man is

508
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 1: safe from. And I'm saying you are in actively If

509
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 1: I take you at what you're saying, your dbanated, you

510
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 1: are actively in a war that it doesn't feel like

511
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:43,440
Speaker 1: you understand.

512
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:47,199
Speaker 2: I understand, Okay, No, trust me, I understand. Okay, okay, No,

513
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 2: I'm saying this is much more serious.

514
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, because that that was one of the biggest pieces

515
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 3: of evidence I received, outside of being told by FBI

516
00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,080
Speaker 3: agents I know that I'm being watched. That was one

517
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,200
Speaker 3: of the biggest pieces of confirmation I received that they're

518
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 3: actively trying to stop you.

519
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,120
Speaker 2: They heard you got the bank and move that quickly

520
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 2: no notice long. Yeah, let's get into that. Let's get

521
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 2: into no letter no FAA.

522
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 3: Yeah for five months, mind you, I was reaching out,

523
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:21,119
Speaker 3: So sit down with the vacant property registration fee this.

524
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's let's contact setting here.

525
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 1: So seventy two thousand dollars was the number that I

526
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 1: think it was?

527
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 2: Was it forty something? Okay?

528
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 1: With forty something? I thought, I think you said. They

529
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 1: say we owe seventy two thousands.

530
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 3: You know what, it could have been seventy it's been

531
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 3: a minute now, Yeah, it could have been forty for

532
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:42,639
Speaker 3: the vacant fee, property registration fees past date, plus the

533
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,679
Speaker 3: current utilities because you got to remember, the water bills

534
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 3: be crazy and we're not even using them, like even

535
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:47,920
Speaker 3: in here.

536
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 2: The gas and shit is hot. But but till we

537
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,920
Speaker 2: using yeah, not at all. But utilities is a big scam. Yeah,

538
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 2: it's a big scam.

539
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's a collective type of thing. Yeah, So

540
00:25:57,840 --> 00:25:58,680
Speaker 1: let me ask you this.

541
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 2: So talked to me.

542
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:04,200
Speaker 1: Walk me through this number one issue, how the state got,

543
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,879
Speaker 1: how the city got to that position to want to

544
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 1: say it, and how you missed whatever correspondence they said.

545
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 2: I didn't miss it. They just stopped communicating with me

546
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 2: because they knew they were trying to sabotage me. I

547
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 2: didn't miss nothing.

548
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,360
Speaker 3: You're supposed to get a four year waiver if you're

549
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 3: a nonprofit where you don't pay the vacant property registration fee,

550
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:28,919
Speaker 3: which they jumped up from about fifteen hundred dollars a

551
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:35,360
Speaker 3: year to like seven, trying to destroy us through bleeding

552
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,160
Speaker 3: our account. Right, So I call them up and say, yo,

553
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,679
Speaker 3: we nonprofit. Can we get the four year waiver? Your

554
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 3: application got into late?

555
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 2: You feel me?

556
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 1: So this was before the letters, right, we got the letter.

557
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 1: I'm saying, how do we even get to the.

558
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:57,679
Speaker 2: Point you got to this?

559
00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 3: Because when I got the vacant property registration fee waiver,

560
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 3: I asked them, can y'all retroactively apply the waiver to us?

561
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,360
Speaker 2: Because I remember it was late. I was late.

562
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 3: Can y'all just do me this solid this one time,

563
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 3: because that's a lot of money.

564
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 2: To be paying when we're living off the people's money,

565
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 2: when we should have the waiver? Yes?

566
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 3: And I was told they would get back to me.

567
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 3: And I spoke to the person three times on the phone,

568
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 3: and she kept saying I'm gonna get back to you.

569
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 3: And I emailed it three times and she never responded.

570
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 3: And the next thing you know they trying to sell

571
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 3: to school without any notice. I think the proof is

572
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 3: in you feel me. I never dropped the ball. They

573
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:44,439
Speaker 3: stopped communicating with me on purpose. Now when it's crazy.

574
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,360
Speaker 3: I was supposed to be out the country. They knew

575
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 3: what they were doing. Bro, they were going to sell

576
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:51,439
Speaker 3: the school when I was out the country. When I

577
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 3: came back, Sorry, somebody else owns it. I didn't know

578
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 3: it was that easy. And then I started talking to

579
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 3: property owners. They say, Dot they doing it in New York,

580
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 3: Desionists and other people.

581
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 2: They getting people d's and facant.

582
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 3: I said, they can literally take your home that you owned,

583
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 3: your whole life. That easy, Yo, Something need to be

584
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,440
Speaker 3: done about that. Wow, you shouldn't. You should have to

585
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 3: be able to appear in person.

586
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:18,639
Speaker 2: You feel me? Yeah? Bro, that was crazy. Now it's

587
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 2: heavy now, no notice, stuck it on the door.

588
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 1: What I'm trying to understand is you get these buildings there.

589
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 2: It was a charter school, no longer a school.

590
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 1: So did the city classify the vacant buildings because it's.

591
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 2: Not a scrip because it wasn't being you right, right,

592
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 2: So it's considered.

593
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 1: And so there's a there's a fee associated with When

594
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 1: you these buildings and they're vacant.

595
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 2: It's the vacant property registration fee.

596
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 3: Okay, And every year body is still attached to it

597
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 3: and working on it. Okay, okay, okay, mind you, all

598
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 3: of our repair has been done for two three years now.

599
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 3: Technically we should have already been done. The problem is

600
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 3: I decided to paint the building. I should have went

601
00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 3: for inspection first, you feel me, And I decided to

602
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 3: paint the building and let the volunteers come in. That

603
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 3: ended up taking us over a year to get it done.

604
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 3: Precise right in retrospect Loom, I should have saved the

605
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 3: paint until after we passed the spect. We probably already

606
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 3: be open with your students right now. That was a

607
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 3: mistake I made, Yes, yeah.

608
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 2: I was so caught up in the look instead of saying,

609
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 2: wait time out, what do you need just to get

610
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 2: your paperwork? Yes, save the paint? Right? Historical error?

611
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 1: Yes, do you think looking back at everything that has

612
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 1: happened with the school and hold on? First of all,

613
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 1: are you free and clear of whatever paperwork that they

614
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 1: put on the door. Remember we had to pay it

615
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 1: by a certain date.

616
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 3: And we paid it in bulk. They were counting on

617
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 3: me not having not having it, and I walked in

618
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 3: there with the whole thing.

619
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, as you should. As you should. They thank you

620
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 2: the girl.

621
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 1: So do you feel as though that that you've misshapen?

622
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 3: Bob is me because Wilmington is a predominantly black city,

623
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 3: predominantly black city government in bureaucracy. It bothers me that

624
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 3: nobody in that city government cared enough about my project

625
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 3: to not even make a phone.

626
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 2: Call to me.

627
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 3: Bro, Yeah, everybody know my numbers. You feel me like,

628
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 3: damn y'all that trifling. All y'all see this about the

629
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 3: nobody even if you call your cousin up. I know

630
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 3: you listen to doctor Umar, sent him a DM and left.

631
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 2: Bro, it's crazy. And then I was seeing people it

632
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 2: was crazy.

633
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 1: I was seeing stuff online from like white supremacists and

634
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 1: other people like your haters, your detractors and stuff saying

635
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 1: I'm going to try to buy the building just to

636
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 1: bulldozer it and things. And I'm saying, oh shit, this

637
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 1: is more meaningful than just this little thing doctor Umar

638
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 1: is working on. You got white supremacists understanding that there's

639
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 1: this black dude working on this school in Womanton, Delaware,

640
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 1: they were saying, I'm gonna buy the school, bulldozer the school,

641
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 1: and just like I think dude said, I'll put a toilet.

642
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 2: The only thing gonna be there is a toilet.

643
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 1: It was something crazy, but I'm saying that I didn't

644
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 1: think that it it gunnered that kind of attention from

645
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 1: it from white people.

646
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 2: But progress is always a threat, and you change nothing

647
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 2: about the people until you change their consciousness.

648
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 3: And mentality and the immediate future. It may not matter

649
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 3: much to some people, but the long ball, we own it, yes,

650
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 3: because this is just the first of many.

651
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's and that's the problem, right, that's the problem.

652
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 2: They're looking at the growth. If this pops, if it works,

653
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 2: it's a problem. The momentum gonna be crazy.

654
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 1: Do you think that you've mishandled any of the processes?

655
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 2: Nah?

656
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 3: The only thing that could have made this better is

657
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 3: if the contractors we hired to do they work had integrity.

658
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 1: Would you admit if you had failed short something? Is

659
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 1: that hard for you to admit because of everyone watching?

660
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, the only thing that took time was we kept

661
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 3: getting scammed by people we were referred to to do

662
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 3: the work. We got scammed by everybody everybody, Bro, And

663
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 3: then we went to the white people and they did

664
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 3: the work. You know how You're know how painful that is, Bro,

665
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 3: to have your people take the money, not do the work,

666
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 3: and you go to the white people and they knock

667
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 3: it out.

668
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 2: Wow.

669
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 1: That's yeah, that's that's crazy. There's also an idea out

670
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 1: there that doctor umar should have did a online school.

671
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 1: Doctorumore should have went that way.

672
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 2: But if you want an online school, go open up one.

673
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 1: I'm asking you no, no, no, I'm not saying you, I'm

674
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 1: saying them, what's your feelings?

675
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 2: It is my vision? Right? Do you see that?

676
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 3: If lun says I'm going to open up a studio

677
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:57,479
Speaker 3: downtown and the biggest building, who are you to go

678
00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 3: and tell Loon to put it in his basement.

679
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 2: That's his dream, his vision.

680
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 3: If you want a podcast studio in your basement, go

681
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 3: put it in your basement. But you don't impose your

682
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 3: low expectations on the next man. Do you see what

683
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 3: I'm saying. Yes, I'm living for the future. I'm not

684
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 3: living for you. Do you understand there's no proof that

685
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 3: online schools And if you go back to covid, Lou,

686
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 3: you should remember this when our kids were forced to

687
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 3: be at home and learn.

688
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 2: It was a disaster. Bro, do you not remember that?

689
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 5: Oh?

690
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 3: They say, yeah, he's online, but he got a separate

691
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 3: screen watching porn.

692
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 2: While do you feel me?

693
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 1: And you you really are trying to affect our boys

694
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 1: in a positive way?

695
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 3: Did you see the suicide rate for black girls went

696
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 3: through the roof during COVID schooling because the home is

697
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 3: so toxic.

698
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 2: That's where they get molested. Abauty loan online?

699
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 3: Are you after COVID? You got black people still talking

700
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 3: about a online school?

701
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 2: They're not serious. That's a great point.

702
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 3: Most of our kids are raised by single moms who

703
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 3: gotta work so many jobs that they can't be home

704
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 3: the properly supervised them on.

705
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 2: What about the obesity in black kids?

706
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 3: Loan they not moving? Or what you want an online

707
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 3: school for you lazy slop?

708
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 2: You know what?

709
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 3: You know what bothers me about a loom. When it's

710
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 3: time to go to the club, we want the best.

711
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:16,879
Speaker 3: When it's time to get a new car, we want

712
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 3: the best. When it's time to buy a house, we

713
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 3: want the best. When it's time to party a vacation,

714
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:22,720
Speaker 3: we want the best. But when it's time to educate

715
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 3: our kids. We will accept the beer online school. So

716
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 3: your fat, lazy ass kid can just sit there and

717
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 3: do you feel me? Come on, man, I'm with you.

718
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 3: Let me ask you this. How much you can do

719
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 3: with a real school compared to online.

720
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,360
Speaker 2: The only reason why online schools are popular.

721
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 3: Is because they cater to lazy kids, and they cater

722
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 3: to people who want to keep as much overhead as possible.

723
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 2: What it is, school buses, school just take the money.

724
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 1: And that's what I was about to say, if you

725
00:34:56,680 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 1: were really money hungry, Like I'm saying, how many people

726
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 1: are you want to be global?

727
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 2: Right now?

728
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:04,879
Speaker 3: You know how many people approach me saying you need

729
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 3: to do this and I can help you, bro just

730
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 3: your name. I'm like, y'all don't get it. That ain't

731
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 3: the way we fix this. That ain't the way we

732
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 3: fix this.

733
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 4: Oh.

734
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 3: I see them on comp know they got to be

735
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 3: in my face. They need to feel me dropping give

736
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:18,320
Speaker 3: me twenty right now?

737
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 2: You feel me?

738
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 3: I tell people like, are you sure you're gonna be

739
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,280
Speaker 3: able to get enough kids to come to the school?

740
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 3: First of all, we're starting small. Second of all, are

741
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 3: you kidding? Once your son come to that school one

742
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 3: day if you're trying to take him out here, ain't

743
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 3: gonna leave, you feel me.

744
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 2: Once he get a taste of what we're throwing in there,

745
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 2: he ain't leaving.

746
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 1: I'm glad with everything being said about you and all

747
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:45,919
Speaker 1: of the tractors. It does it put your fire out.

748
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,359
Speaker 1: That's one of the most important things. Like even when

749
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 1: young Thug, I was around him when a lot of

750
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 1: stuff was going on online, and I was you know.

751
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 2: I personally know these people.

752
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's like I like to see that they're

753
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: fired on't die even win the controversy high, even when

754
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,439
Speaker 1: it's you know, I'm behind schedule, I'm running behind.

755
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,720
Speaker 3: And you know why loom because I got too many

756
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 3: elders who are counting on me to give them a

757
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 3: victory before they leave here.

758
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 5: Bro.

759
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 3: Yes, I had an elder this past week. I heard

760
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,280
Speaker 3: from three elders, bro, who I never knew before. Right

761
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 3: one brother called, he said, you know, doctor Um, I'm

762
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 3: sitting here with my mom watching you.

763
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 2: She atey two.

764
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 3: Put it on the phone, doctor Umar. Don't you stop

765
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 3: you keep doing don't you you feel me? I had

766
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 3: another elder. She was liking her seventhing. I'm like, why

767
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 3: these elders hit me up to day and I said,

768
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,840
Speaker 3: I know why. That's the ancestors sending them to say listen.

769
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 3: But you get caught up in that online hype. You

770
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,359
Speaker 3: got old folks here who need a victory before they go.

771
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 3: They've been donating to that school. They need to see

772
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 3: it open. They need this, yeah, for sure. And you're

773
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 3: saying you about finish. You you're about done, You're done.

774
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 3: You're waiting on infection.

775
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 2: You haven't applied for it yet, because we need to

776
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:57,280
Speaker 2: clean out the school now. You feel me got speaking

777
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 2: Spain when they come.

778
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to clean. I mean I would want

779
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 3: to wait. I'm not gonna wait for us to do

780
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 3: the waxing. That could wait for us.

781
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 2: Not the waxing. Just sweep it out real good enough

782
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 2: for them to walk and not fall over screwdrivers. And

783
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Left, You know what I mean.

784
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 2: We just want to clean.

785
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 5: Now.

786
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 1: If you had to speak to a black parent, what

787
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,720
Speaker 1: would you say that your school is designed to fix

788
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 1: that public schools can't for black children.

789
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:26,760
Speaker 2: Public school and design, to be honest with you, you should

790
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 2: need no convincing from public school.

791
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 3: But what are we going to give them We're going

792
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 3: to give black boys the self love that a.

793
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 2: Black boy should have.

794
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 3: We're going to give a manhood leadership, training, knowledge yourself,

795
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 3: and the ability to guard into this world.

796
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 2: And do anything they want to do with themselves.

797
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 3: But they ain't even gonna have to ask, right because

798
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:49,879
Speaker 3: after one month they'll see a transformation in a month, yeah,

799
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 3: that they ain't seen in years.

800
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 2: Over there, you feel me. The proof gonna be in

801
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 2: the pudding, the.

802
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 1: Proof and so much as I believe in you, and

803
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 1: you know I believe I rock with you, and we've

804
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:00,720
Speaker 1: been friends is for years.

805
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 2: This job is turning away parents when the class size

806
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 2: max because I don't want to overburden my teachers.

807
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,800
Speaker 3: You feel me, can't have us so many. I'm looking

808
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 3: at twenty twenty five, right, I don't want to go

809
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 3: thirty like public school. You feel me, And I know

810
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 3: once we max, that's when it's gonna hurt Doctor Umar.

811
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 3: They trying to put him on. I can't you feel me?

812
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 3: And then that's when I got to tell them. You

813
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 3: see that school across the street, the Frederick Douglass Building,

814
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 3: we need money to get it right. Once we get

815
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 3: that up, you feel me, That's what I got to doe.

816
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 2: No, yeah, move to the next one. Right.

817
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 1: Do you ever look at it and say, because your

818
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 1: heart is in the right place, your mission is in

819
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 1: the right place.

820
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 2: Do you ever feel like you under engineered this?

821
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 1: What you mean, well, you just didn't think it all

822
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 1: the way through with some of the with some of

823
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 1: the Now, well, you do have certain things just taking place,

824
00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 1: like the note on the door, or.

825
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:01,800
Speaker 2: Well I can.

826
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 3: Control getting the bank, I don't control them not returning

827
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 3: my calls and emails deliberately ignoring me.

828
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 2: Try. I don't control that.

829
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 1: Well, there's also a side of it to where if

830
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 1: they are ignoring you, and you know that that conversation

831
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: has been had, that you take the initiative to know

832
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 1: I have buildings over there, y'all reached out at some point,

833
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 1: and now y'all ignoring me. Of course you shouldn't have to,

834
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:28,359
Speaker 1: They should reach out to and what.

835
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 2: I'm hoping we over that now.

836
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 3: Yep, But it's at a point now because they made

837
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 3: it kind of clear that they don't want me there

838
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 3: with their behavior. It's at a point where, and I

839
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 3: hope it don't go there where I'm gonna have to

840
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 3: call all my supporters from around I was going to

841
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,479
Speaker 3: and march on the city. I hope they don't go there,

842
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 3: but if they don't stop, I'm going to have to

843
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 3: go there. I haven't met with the mayor yet though,

844
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 3: so maybe I need to go there first. If this

845
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 3: keeps up, I need to talk to him personally, because

846
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 3: if he don't intervene, then we go to the streets.

847
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 2: I can at least tell the media.

848
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:04,879
Speaker 3: I went to the top guy, right, I've only communicated

849
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 3: with the mayor's chief of staff, and he was no

850
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 3: help at all, you know what I mean. He didn't

851
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 3: get me, no answer as to why I was being

852
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 3: ignored any of that. So that's crazy, right, and he's black, right.

853
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 3: And then the person under him lied and communicated with

854
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 3: one of the struggle streamers and said that the city

855
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 3: has been in constant contact with me. That was a

856
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 3: complete lie. And I got with the chief of staff.

857
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 3: I said, you need to talk to him. Not only

858
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 3: is he talking to haters on YouTube, which I don't

859
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:32,799
Speaker 3: think is professional, he putting our misinformation. If it's one

860
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 3: thing that they do that I don't like, aside from

861
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 3: trying to sell the school, like even say what's on,

862
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 3: they shared too much of our information with people who

863
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,359
Speaker 3: ain't got no business knowing you, feel me. And that's

864
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 3: something I'm gonna have to look into with an attorney

865
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 3: too as well, because I was told they're not supposed

866
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 3: to do that, Like people should not be able to

867
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 3: call a city and just get any information about you

868
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:56,240
Speaker 3: and your school that they want.

869
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 2: You, feel me.

870
00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 3: It's very when they know you're the only one who

871
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 3: entered the city. Y'all know that, So why you just

872
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,839
Speaker 3: talking to random people? I know some of them's eight yeah, right,

873
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 3: But legally I got to look into that because I

874
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 3: got a couple of three with my information.

875
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 1: I got a couple different questions with you going through

876
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: that with the city. Do you really feel in your

877
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,839
Speaker 1: heart that you can mobilize black people in that way

878
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 1: to march on the city? And I mean I don't

879
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 1: mean a couple hundred. I mean, like I think, so

880
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 1: there's no way to know except to do it. But

881
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 1: I think we can, especially if they know the school done,

882
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 1: which it is, and they playing around with this permit,

883
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 1: because this next thing is really going to decide you,

884
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 1: feel me. Are they gonna give us? Are they gonna

885
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 1: play a million games? I mean, I'm gonna work with

886
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 1: them a little bit. But once I get to the

887
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 1: point whe I'm like, you know what, they don't intend

888
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:44,760
Speaker 1: to give us the permit. They just gonna dog walkers

889
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 1: the whole time. I probably consult with an attorney first.

890
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:49,800
Speaker 1: Definitely got to meet with the lawyer, excuse me, the mayor,

891
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 1: and then after that we probably got to get it permit,

892
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 1: the march on the city, get the media involved.

893
00:41:54,520 --> 00:42:00,359
Speaker 3: You know, and and then we might got assume them. Yeah,

894
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 3: because we've definitely been discriminated against so already. Yeah, yeah,

895
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 3: when what they did was trying to sell the school

896
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 3: that was low So we've been discriminated against already, So

897
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:11,479
Speaker 3: maybe trying if.

898
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,399
Speaker 1: They would have sold the school behind your back, say

899
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,879
Speaker 1: you were in Africa, and of course we're in hypothetical lebe.

900
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 1: If they would what, they would have sucked all the

901
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 1: air out of you. Nah, Stell got fied burning, they

902
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 1: took the school.

903
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 3: I'm still when they sabotaged Marcus Garvey's Black Star Line

904
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 3: Steamship Corporation, which was incorporated in Delaware, he started the

905
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 3: Black Cross Navigation.

906
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:34,800
Speaker 2: You gotta keep going, Damn.

907
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 3: You can't put a price or a timeline on people's

908
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 3: hope you follow what I'm saying. You can't put a

909
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 3: price in timeline on it. When the white people was

910
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 3: attacking Garvey, black woman stood up and she said, why

911
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 3: are you worried about our money? We giving this money

912
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:54,280
Speaker 3: to Marcus Garvey the building.

913
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:55,439
Speaker 2: It ain't you right right?

914
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 3: They said, he ain't getting nothing from the government. Mindra busness.

915
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 3: If we want to give Garvey the money any hell,

916
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 3: then we decide if it's an issue. Yes, y'all don't

917
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 3: care about us. Why y'all worried about it if it's

918
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,280
Speaker 3: an issue or not? Same thing I say to my haters.

919
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like and again I'm glad I pointed that

920
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 1: out so they can cause they stand on the fact

921
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,919
Speaker 1: that on October the twenty something, twenty twenty four, doctor

922
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 1: Umar said that he didn't get a bit. It's like, bro,

923
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 1: the date is wrong, respectfully, because when you pull it

924
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 1: from YouTube videos, Bro, there's a level of information in

925
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 1: the backdrop that doesn't show on the upload when it

926
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 1: really was shot versus when it was uploaded. You know,

927
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 1: there's things happening that they're not accounting for.

928
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 3: Man, It's like I never paid much attention to them.

929
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 3: The people who going before you, gonna before you, and

930
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 3: the ones who not not. If you would have told

931
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 3: me twelve years ago when we well, almost twelve years ago,

932
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 3: when we took our first donation in Saint Louis April twelfth,

933
00:43:54,920 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 3: twenty fourteen, if you would have said, did you think

934
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 3: that your own people with sabotage your go fundme for

935
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 3: the school, sabotage your cash app for the school, sabotage

936
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 3: your baggage accounts for the school, slammer, you vandalize the school.

937
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 3: I had people call the utility company and try to

938
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 3: get the utilities turned. You follow what I'm saying. This

939
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 3: is why I don't answer the questions Loom, because the

940
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 3: questions are disingenuous. You know why you don't ask the

941
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 3: people sabotaging us why they sabotaging us? But you want

942
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:34,760
Speaker 3: to ask me why the school ain't open yet? That's disingenuous.

943
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 3: Why am I asking Loon why your podcast ain't up?

944
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:42,839
Speaker 3: When I know he's sabotaging Loom. He's sabotageing Loom, he's Saba.

945
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 3: Why don't I go have a conversation with the saboteurs?

946
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:47,839
Speaker 3: You see what I'm saying. If there was no sabotage.

947
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 2: That's a different conversation, right, But not only did I

948
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 2: have to fight the city, I had to fight the

949
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:53,360
Speaker 2: things you two.

950
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 3: Being struggled streamers, fake wol people. I mean, I remember

951
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 3: one time we called the gas company. Said somebody you

952
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 3: just called here? I said, no, I didn't, Oh niggas.

953
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 3: Now I got to use class words because these people

954
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 3: they do anything for a couple of struggle streams, man.

955
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 2: And that's too much. And that's what I'm saying to me.

956
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 3: That's that's why I said earlier I shouldn't have to

957
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 3: fight them.

958
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:17,320
Speaker 2: My people should take care of My hate is for me.

959
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 2: But we've never been there. But that's what I'm saying.

960
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 2: That was fighting and happened to evade for his life.

961
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 1: But I think it's a growing concern, man, And not

962
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 1: that it won't happen or it's not happening, but I

963
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 1: do think even with the Joe Budens and people you

964
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 1: may have stood next to, like, it's people that started

965
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 1: to say certain things where it's like, yeah, so. But

966
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is I think I think what I've done.

967
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 1: But listen, I don't think you resented. I think you

968
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 1: diagnose it and if it's serious and if it's from

969
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 1: our people. I think that at some point, Bro, the

970
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 1: sabotage shit starts to work.

971
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 2: Motherfuckers start to actually buy into it and believe it

972
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 2: a little. And when you don't doing that, they've been

973
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 2: believe you follow them.

974
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 1: Okay, okay said and you've been able to do this

975
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 1: in spite of like yards after the Inspider.

976
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, your victory, in spite of the Bro.

977
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 3: They've done everything they could. They tried to get our festivals.

978
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 2: Can I've never seen none of it until the last

979
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,240
Speaker 2: couple of years. It feel like, nah, this has been ongoing.

980
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 3: Remember they sabotaged the gofun me in twenty fifteen, Bro,

981
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 3: the first year of the fundraiser, and they got the

982
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 3: GoFundMe shut down.

983
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 2: Man, when I tried.

984
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:28,840
Speaker 1: To get the same college talked about that on that

985
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 1: first episode that was calling down there sabotaging, Bro.

986
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 3: We I think we underestimate how self hating black people are.

987
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 3: This FDMG campaign has really shown me post traumatic slavery disorder,

988
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 3: Bro on another level. And if I'm gonna look at

989
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 3: this spiritually loomed, I can make an argument somebody can

990
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 3: make an argument that the Almighty kept me from opening

991
00:46:56,480 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 3: this school this long because I needed more education on

992
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 3: who I was dealing with when it comes to dealing

993
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 3: with black folks. Yeah, because if that school would have

994
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 3: opened in one year, I think it be closed already.

995
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 2: I would have trusted too many people. Yeah, it would

996
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:15,439
Speaker 2: have destroyed it from them. Now now I know better, Yeah,

997
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:17,919
Speaker 2: now I know better. Yeah, you got intel? Oh man?

998
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, Now, because if you notice my conversation, is it

999
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 1: for the haters? Mine's is for the supporter or the

1000
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 1: would be done or the person believe in you that

1001
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 1: might be just a little weird.

1002
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 2: Show them now it's time to show me.

1003
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:35,760
Speaker 1: Right, right, And so that I just what I'm saying

1004
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 1: is when we're communicating, I'm being clear to the haters

1005
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 1: that this ain't for y'all.

1006
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 2: This is for the people though well some even need

1007
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 2: to tell them that because I didn't said it. So

1008
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 2: you know what I mean?

1009
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 3: Then, No, I don't talk because I don't respond to them.

1010
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 3: That's what they really hate. You know what they want

1011
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 3: me to do. They want me to go on their

1012
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 3: struggle stream. Oh, ask me whatever you want.

1013
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 2: Right.

1014
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 3: The problem that got with me, Loun is I never

1015
00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 3: made myself accountable to them.

1016
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 2: They hate it.

1017
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 3: Why he not answering this because you ain't nobody.

1018
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 2: You ain't nobody, right, you know what I mean?

1019
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 1: Now, if you do have a support young guy or

1020
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 1: older person out there, uh huh, and they wanted to

1021
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:19,760
Speaker 1: follow your blueprint or they have questions about the next school,

1022
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 1: can you confidently say it won't take twelve years for

1023
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 1: the kid?

1024
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 2: Because I don't know what the future holds me.

1025
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 1: I don't know, but with all the intail and information

1026
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 1: you got along the way, I would say you should

1027
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 1: be more efficient in doing this the next time.

1028
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:35,839
Speaker 3: Oh there's mistakes that won't be made because I now

1029
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 3: know how treacherous and before this loom.

1030
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:41,720
Speaker 2: You couldn't have told me somebody would take a check

1031
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 2: for tens of thousands of dollars to do a job

1032
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 2: to hope for a school for black kids that's being

1033
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 2: funded by the community, and they black themselves. You couldn't

1034
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 2: have told me they could take that check and don't

1035
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 2: finish the job. Do you feel me?

1036
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:59,319
Speaker 3: And they came highly referred, You feel me? These people

1037
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 3: are You couldn't have told me.

1038
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 2: That, bro.

1039
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:03,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yo, this was times where I had my gun

1040
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 3: in my hand, like, yo, I should go blow his

1041
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 3: mother effing brains out. Man, that's the people's money you

1042
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 3: just stole, you know what I mean? Yeah, I had

1043
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 3: to eat it.

1044
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 2: It was painful. I couldn't do it. I couldn't do it.

1045
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 2: I ain't eat nothing. And it's clear in this industry

1046
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:19,479
Speaker 2: they know that. Boy don't eating. I don't.

1047
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 1: I don't play like I come from zero to hero,

1048
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 1: So I don't. I don't play the same games. I

1049
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 1: don't negotiate with terrorists. Right, I'm telling you, you mess

1050
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:30,919
Speaker 1: with my money or you take steal from me. There's

1051
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 1: a problem to go with that. I'm telling you that,

1052
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 1: and I'm sorry. That's just how I'm wired with you

1053
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:40,320
Speaker 1: and the school though, I thank you in a good spot.

1054
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 1: I hope the school opens here soon because I think

1055
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:46,840
Speaker 1: black kids can benefit from the school. I truly, truly,

1056
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 1: truly believe that black kids can benefit from that school.

1057
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 2: And I send my.

1058
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 3: I mean, the school done is just a matter of

1059
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 3: what we got to do to get our paperwork, you

1060
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 3: know what I mean? How hard bought the city going

1061
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 3: to play? Hopefully they just you know, except that we

1062
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 3: hear and get his permit, let him teach his kids.

1063
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 3: I don't plan on getting them because I think another

1064
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 3: issue too with them is they think I want to

1065
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 3: get involved in the politics because of my popularity.

1066
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 2: No I don't.

1067
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't want to be no mayor of Wilmington.

1068
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:14,839
Speaker 3: I want to be no city council president. I don't

1069
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 3: want nothing, y'all got. I am here for the school

1070
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 3: to teach.

1071
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 2: Leaves me alone.

1072
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 3: You ain't got to worry about seeing me for nothing.

1073
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 3: I'm purely here to educate kids. You feel me because

1074
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 3: sometimes they you know, people start worrying about that he's

1075
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 3: coming down here from Philly.

1076
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 2: What is his true bro? I am not a.

1077
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:32,359
Speaker 3: Politician, man, I'm a Pan Africanist. I can do more

1078
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 3: for my people in the street than I could ever

1079
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:36,919
Speaker 3: do in that office. I don't want it. You ain't

1080
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 3: got to worry about that. Just give me my school

1081
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:39,360
Speaker 3: and leave me alone.

1082
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 2: Was Charlie Kirk an enemy to black people.