1 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Therapy for Black Girls podcast, a weekly 2 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: conversation about mental health, personal development, and all the small 3 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 1: decisions we can make to become the best possible versions 4 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:26,600 Speaker 1: of ourselves. I'm your host, doctor joy hard and Bradford, 5 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: a licensed psychologist in Atlanta, Georgia. For more information or 6 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: to find a therapist in your area, visit our website 7 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: at Therapy for Blackgirls dot com. While I hope you 8 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 1: love listening to and learning from the podcast, it is 9 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: not meant to be a substitute for a relationship with 10 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: a licensed mental health professional. Hey, y'all, thanks so much 11 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: for joining me for session four seventy two of the 12 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: Therapy for Black Girls podcasts. Today, I'm chatting with astrologer 13 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 1: Camille Michelle Gray for a mid year check in on 14 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: all things transits, astrological themes, and a look into what's 15 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 1: in the stars for us as a collector for the 16 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 1: rest of the year. We'll get into all of that 17 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:24,479 Speaker 1: right after a quick word from our sponsors. If you've 18 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: listened to the podcast for a while, you know we 19 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: love to do our annual astrology check in, and today 20 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: we're welcoming a new voice on the show to give 21 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: us a breakdown of what's to come for the rest 22 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 1: of this year. I'm excited to chat with Camille Michelle Gray, 23 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: an astrologer, a musician, and writer from DC who approaches 24 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: her astrology practice believing it as a marriage of the 25 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 1: human condition with the cosmic condition. We talk about how 26 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: major astrological moments will inform the rest of twenty twenty six, 27 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: and Camille even shares a special takeaway for each sign. So, 28 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: whether you're deeply into astrology or just like to dip 29 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: in here and there, I think you'll enjoy our conversation. 30 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: Let's die been. Thank you so much for joining us today. 31 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:10,119 Speaker 2: Camille, Absolutely done. To Joey, it's a pleasure to be here. 32 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: Very excited for our mid year astrology Chicken. I think 33 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:17,239 Speaker 1: this is always a great conversation. So for those who 34 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:19,119 Speaker 1: may not be familiar, can you tell us a little 35 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: bit about yourself and how you started doing astrology work. 36 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, my name is Kamille Michelle Gray. I am a 37 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 3: consulting astrologer from the Washington, DC area. I actually got 38 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 3: into astrology. It's kind of part of my birth story, 39 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 3: so my mom had my chart read as a kid. 40 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 3: Lived a lot of life between then and my mid twenties, 41 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 3: I picked astrology back up after a pretty difficult time, 42 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 3: looking to find some awareness, some reasons why, and I 43 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 3: found that I had a knack for it, that it 44 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 3: was really fun, and that people enjoyed my interpretations. So 45 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 3: I kept moving with it, and nine years later I 46 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 3: get to talk to folks like you. 47 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: Very cool, very cool. So that is so interesting that 48 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: it's something like that. Your mom also really basically introduced 49 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: you to so have y'all had conversations around astrology and 50 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: the role that's played in both of your lives. 51 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 52 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 3: I remember I was going through a difficult time with 53 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 3: an ex and she was the first one who said, 54 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 3: let's pull up the. 55 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 2: Chart and I was like, what is this? What do 56 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 2: you mean? What are you talking about? So she really 57 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:19,359 Speaker 2: passed me the. 58 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 3: Baton and I took it much much further. But she 59 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 3: and I continue to have conversations. 60 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 2: She's like, what's. 61 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 3: Going on for me, what's going on with Saturn in 62 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 3: my seventh house? Like, She's really a wonderful person to 63 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 3: talk to about these things, and so I really enjoyed 64 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 3: that connection with her. 65 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: And the way that you practice in terms of astrology 66 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: is a particular astrology called evolutionary and hellenistic astrology. Can 67 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: you give us like a quick primer on what this is? 68 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, So, helenistic astrology is essentially the traditional kind of 69 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 3: revival of astrology as it was many hundred years ago. 70 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 3: So I see that as my technical foundation in the 71 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 3: art to kind of know how to read things from 72 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 3: a more technical standpoint. And then I welcomed in evolutionary 73 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 3: astrology more as the poetic kind of storytelling side of things. 74 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 3: And the way that I like to put it for folks, 75 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 3: is hellenistic or traditional astrology is really good at telling 76 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 3: you what is. Evolutionary astrology is really good at telling 77 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 3: you why. So it takes it a step further and 78 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 3: it becomes less about this is hard or this is easy, 79 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 3: and becomes more about the soul's conversation of like, well, 80 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 3: why is this hard? How are you being asked to grow? 81 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:28,479 Speaker 3: Or why is this easy? How are you being asked 82 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:31,799 Speaker 3: to use this? So I just created my own bespoke 83 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 3: version of astrology merging these two kind of ways or 84 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 3: schools together. 85 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 1: Got it? And so when we look ahead at the 86 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: rest of twenty twenty six, what kind of major themes 87 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 1: come up for you. 88 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 2: So when I was. 89 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:51,119 Speaker 3: Looking forward, there's a certain theme of slowing down, maybe 90 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 3: going back, maybe some reversals, or needing to fine tune 91 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 3: or tweak some things. So when I was reflecting on 92 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 3: the first half of twenty twenty six, there's so much 93 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 3: activation in air signs and fire signs, and these are 94 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 3: signs I want. 95 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 2: To go up and out. 96 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 3: They want to move, they want to explore. So twenty 97 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 3: twenty six for a lot of folks has been getting 98 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 3: things started, getting things moving, going in unprecedented directions maybe, 99 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 3: But the latter half of this year, because of some retrogrades, 100 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 3: because of some earth and water ingress is happening, I 101 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 3: think there's going to be a little bit more of 102 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 3: like slowing down, a little bit more of a reflection, 103 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 3: how have you moved forward and stopping to reflect do 104 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 3: I want to keep moving this way? There's going to 105 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 3: be a little bit more about accounting for the body, 106 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 3: for stillness, for routine as we move forward. So that's 107 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 3: my general overview of like the tone shift, there's going 108 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 3: to be a little bit of like a cosmic pumping 109 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 3: of the brakes that's like wait, wait, wait, we've moved forward, 110 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 3: We've changed a lot, but let's make sure we're doing 111 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 3: so with intention. 112 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: And to what would you ascribe the slowing down? 113 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, so we have many outer planets in air signs 114 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 3: and in fire signs. So the beginning of this year 115 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 3: was chalk full of uranis entered Gemini, Saturn entered Aries, 116 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 3: Neptune entered Aries. Tomorrow Jupiter enters Leo. So there's so 117 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 3: much air and fire. But these are outer planets that 118 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 3: spend about half of the year stationing retrograde. So in 119 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 3: July Saturn and Neptune we' go retrograde. In September, Ur 120 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 3: honest will go retrograde. 121 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 2: And so to me. 122 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 3: Astrology and astrology through retrogrades, I think, is this really 123 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 3: elegant way of trying to get us to be like, 124 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 3: wait a minute, let's rest and digest here. We don't 125 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 3: always have to be moving at this trajectory of forward 126 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 3: motion is the best motion. So usually with retrogrades we 127 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 3: see things slowing down. We're being invited to reconsider that 128 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 3: can be felt in our lives as frustration or a 129 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 3: little bit of a block or a little bit of 130 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 3: lack of inspiration. But I would always ask folks like, 131 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 3: what is this pause teaching you, what is impast teaching you? 132 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 3: And I think retrogrades are a very elegant way of astrology, 133 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 3: forcing us to slow down, gather the wisdom of how 134 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 3: far we've come, and then move with a little bit 135 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 3: more intention as we move forward. So that's what I'm 136 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 3: thinking about there. And there's also an ingress that happened Chiron. 137 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 3: I know that Mecha Woods talked about Chiron in your 138 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 3: last recording. Looking forward to twenty twenty six, it enters 139 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 3: this line of Taurus, this very earth body based, material 140 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 3: based sign, and it forms an interesting kind of counterpoint 141 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 3: to the narrative of the year, which is so much 142 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 3: air and fire and change and move and go and expand. 143 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 3: It's a quality of wait a minute, let's remember the body, 144 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 3: Let's remember nature, let's remember our natural rhythms. This was 145 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 3: an ingress that just happened on June nineteenth, So a 146 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 3: little bit more consideration again of how to move forward 147 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 3: in a way that's sustainable and that's kind to our 148 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:54,239 Speaker 3: body and that's also kind to the planet. 149 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: Is there anything in particular that we should be mindful 150 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: of or that you want a call attention too around 151 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: this retrograde that ends July twenty third. Anything in particular, 152 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: they are, Yeah. 153 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 3: The mercury retrograde and cancer. This is one of those 154 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 3: touch points of the year right where we're being forced 155 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 3: to investigate a more interior territory. So again, to repeat myself, 156 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 3: Aaron Fire wants to go out and wants to keep moving. 157 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 3: It doesn't want to stop to consider those things. So 158 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 3: through this mercury retrograde, and later we will have a 159 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 3: venus retrograde that starts in scorpio as well. So these 160 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 3: more emotional and psychologically triggering terrains. Again, it's the story 161 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 3: of Yes, so much has been changing for us externally, 162 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 3: but let's go within and see if anything has changed 163 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 3: internally or where we need to redress or address some 164 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 3: more emotionally or again like deeper seated things that we 165 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 3: haven't so far, maybe I've had time for us. Things 166 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 3: have been bustling and moving forward. One of the things 167 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 3: I always say with mercury retrograde, as a person who 168 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 3: clothes the fear that we have around this is hey, 169 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 3: life will continue to happen. I would say, just cross 170 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 3: your t's dot your eyes move with an eye on 171 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 3: being more thorough more considered investigating things more but specifically 172 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:15,079 Speaker 3: with mercury and cancer, themes of nostalgia, returning to things 173 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 3: that make us feel cared for, that make us feel nurtured, 174 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 3: maybe conversations or mental movement happening on the family front 175 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 3: or on the home front. Again, these more deeper seated things. 176 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 3: All of that is coming up to again be investigated 177 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 3: as we continue to move forward, and as this year 178 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 3: kind of gallops forward. 179 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: Is there anything to pay attention to with this kind 180 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: of being at the same time as like summer's really 181 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 1: starting for people, right, like when a lot of the 182 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:44,439 Speaker 1: country has finally gotten really warm and people are outside, 183 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 1: like really excited about festivals and being out with friends 184 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 1: and live in life. Is there anything about, yeah, anything 185 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 1: about the mercury retrograde that feels interesting coinciding with like 186 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: some are really starting. 187 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:58,559 Speaker 2: I mean, it's certainly a dissonance. 188 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,079 Speaker 3: And I feel like when jua Or enters Leo literally 189 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 3: in like twelve hours, that summer feeling is going to 190 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 3: feel so amplified. But again, it's the way that astrology 191 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 3: is dynamic. It's like, yes, there's fun, there's discovery, there's 192 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:14,680 Speaker 3: play to be had, but not forgetting the internal things 193 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 3: that also spark joy and connection. So while there is 194 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 3: so much out there for us to get our hands 195 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 3: into and to like play and celebrate around this mercury, 196 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 3: retrograde and cancer, saying wait a minute, not so fast, 197 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 3: Let's check in on the heart space. 198 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 2: Let's check in on the. 199 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 3: Connections that actually feed and sustain our life. It's not 200 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 3: just about fun or the next kind of shiny object. 201 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 3: It's also about building a kind of emotional foundation or 202 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 3: emotional tapestry that can support right all of that goodness 203 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:47,199 Speaker 3: and all of that fun and all of that celebration. 204 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 3: So people may experience like, yes, I'm at this festival, 205 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:54,679 Speaker 3: but some feelings or some nostalgia or some again like 206 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 3: more deeper considered things are coming up to be dealt 207 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 3: with at the same time, and maybe play could be 208 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:04,079 Speaker 3: a great outlet or a good release valve. But always 209 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 3: making sure you're doing the work that astrology is calling 210 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 3: upon us to do, which at this time is like 211 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:12,359 Speaker 3: check in on the heart space, really think and integrate 212 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 3: and make conscious the things that are weighing on the 213 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:16,199 Speaker 3: heart at this time. 214 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: You mentioned that you don't really love the way that 215 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: some people talk about like retrogrades and you know it 216 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: has this negative connotation I think a lot, right, What 217 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 1: do you think people often misinterpret or get wrong around retrogrades. 218 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 3: Specifically with mercury retrogrades. It has such a reputation around 219 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 3: like things going haywire, that there can be this thing 220 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 3: that we do where it's like if everything it's someone 221 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 3: thing goes wrong, or if one thing doesn't go according 222 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 3: to plan, we blame the retrograde as if retrogradation is 223 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 3: like an operation in some way. But again, moving forward 224 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 3: comes with periods of returning back or needing to reverse 225 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 3: or needing to look within. So not seeing these retrogrades 226 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 3: as like punishing you or not seeing again forward motion 227 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 3: as the only viable directionality, but regarding retrogrades and even 228 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 3: the hiccups that happened during retrogrades as a way to 229 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 3: prompt a deeper consideration of like, oh, you know this 230 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 3: communication fell through. What do I learn maybe about next time, 231 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 3: about how to communicate better? So these are learning periods, 232 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 3: they're periods for resting and digesting as well, And they 233 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 3: don't have to be all bad. They don't have to 234 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 3: like get this negative pr all the time. It's just 235 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 3: the way that we are being Again, invited to move 236 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 3: with more consideration and more thoroughness, but also to investigate 237 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 3: more of our internal landscapes and to refine and to 238 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 3: then move forward again with more clarity. 239 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:44,959 Speaker 1: With us the things that you've already shared. Are there 240 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: any major planetary movements, transits or shifts happening through the 241 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:51,319 Speaker 1: end of the year that feel especially consequential and what 242 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 1: should we be paying attention to during that time. 243 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, So one of the big shifts is Jupiter entering Leo. 244 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:00,080 Speaker 3: The reason why this is so important is because we 245 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 3: will have so many outer bodies moving into these fixed places. 246 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 3: So Leo, Chirn and Taurus will help the North Node 247 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 3: and Pluto will continue to be an Aquarius. So I'm saying, 248 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 3: for like the fixed signs, there's like a lot of 249 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 3: pivoting and a lot of changing, but it's pretty consequential 250 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 3: because Jupiter in Leo coincides with like a new one 251 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:22,559 Speaker 3: year chapter of expansion for all of us. So Jupiter 252 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 3: and Leo is about unapologetic self expression, it's about play, 253 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 3: it's about the expansion of the personality. But this is 254 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 3: happening in the backdrop of the North Node in Aquarius 255 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 3: or Pluto and Aquarius. So there's this story building of 256 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 3: how do I use my personal spark, how do I 257 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 3: use my character my personality to serve something in the collective. 258 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 3: So that's a big story that I think is going 259 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 3: to be starting like pretty eminently. We may see that 260 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 3: kind of constellating around stories around celebrities and influencers. Are 261 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 3: these people who have so much LEO attention on themselves 262 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 3: using it in such a way that catalyzes some amount 263 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 3: of change or transformation in the community. So people may 264 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:07,680 Speaker 3: be feeling in their own personal lives maybe this urgency 265 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 3: around showing up in a new way. It's kind of 266 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:12,839 Speaker 3: like the community needs you now, the community needs your 267 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 3: DNA now. But we may also be seeing in a 268 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 3: more collective or societal way, the way that we're shifting 269 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 3: the narrative around who gets to be important, who gets 270 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 3: to have all the power, and who gets to have 271 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 3: all the centering as things move a little bit more 272 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 3: towards like collective empowerment. 273 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 2: That's a big shift. 274 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 3: Another big shift I just wanted to talk about is 275 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 3: Venus retrograde. This is pretty remarkable because Venus only retrogrades 276 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 3: once every two years, and we can compare that to Mercury, 277 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 3: which retrogrades three times a year, so this is a 278 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 3: standout retrograde. Whenever Venus does this little dance, she will 279 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 3: be starting her retrograde in Scorpio again. So this more 280 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 3: deeper considered emotional and psychological terrain, but a story building 281 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 3: in the last half of this year of us really 282 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 3: having to recheck our values, or go back and reconsider 283 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 3: things within our relationships, or go back and reconsider our 284 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 3: relationship to our own worth, to our creative expression. Even so, 285 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 3: we can expect there to be some hiccups, as we 286 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 3: do with retrogrades, but these hiccups always, always, I say, 287 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 3: are little trigger points to get us to turn inward, 288 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 3: to confront whatever the source of that discomfort is and 289 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 3: to really contend with it or to fix it or 290 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 3: make peace with it so that we can move forward 291 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 3: in our relationships or move forward holding our values or 292 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 3: holding our creative inclinations with a little bit more agency. 293 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 3: So those are the two big things that I'm looking at, 294 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 3: is the Venus retrograde and also Jupiter entering Leo and 295 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 3: really setting things on fire across all of these fixed signs. 296 00:15:49,040 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: More from our conversation after the break and so as 297 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: I'm listening to you talk about it is I'm finding 298 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 1: my felf feeling pulled to like, oh, what are we 299 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 1: journaling about? Right? Like you're saying what am I being 300 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: called to you know, think about? And what am I 301 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: being asked to consider? Are there any like journal prompts 302 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 1: or questions that you would pose to the community for 303 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: how they can tap into these things when it feels 304 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 1: like the time is right. 305 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's such a great question. So for Jupiter and Leo, 306 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 3: a really great journaling prompt is like, how am I 307 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 3: feeling called to show up? Or what is my unique 308 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 3: spark or what is this thing that is on my 309 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 3: heart that I feel like I need to express or 310 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 3: pour a little bit more time or energy into. Again, 311 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 3: Jupiter and Leo is calling for your star power. It's 312 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 3: also calling for a sense of courageous vulnerability, just like 313 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 3: getting up on the stage of life and doing it 314 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 3: because you feel you have to, but also knowing that 315 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 3: it will have for verberations to the community. So really 316 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 3: journaling on like what that thing is or how you're 317 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 3: going to show up to that thing even when it 318 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 3: feels uncomfortable or even when it makes you feel small. 319 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 3: For the Venus retrograde, maybe some classic journaling prompts of 320 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 3: like what's important to you Now you're at a different age, 321 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 3: you're at a different chapter. Are the values that you've 322 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:14,199 Speaker 3: held up into this time carrying you forward in a 323 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 3: way that feels like it's in alignment with the person 324 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 3: that you're becoming? Things like what do I need at 325 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 3: a relationship? What desires maybe have I ignored or kind 326 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 3: of put to the side that I'm ready to reignite 327 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 3: in some kind of way. I think Venus retrograde in 328 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 3: Jupiter and Leo will be interesting for the creatives among 329 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 3: us as well, because we're really being triggered into maybe 330 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 3: expressing or stepping into a new chapter of expression. So 331 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 3: maybe things around like what do I want to create 332 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 3: this year? What's the most important thing that I want 333 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 3: to kind of show that's in alignment with my values 334 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 3: or in alignment with the person that I am. 335 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 1: And I think when people hear Venus, they tend to 336 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 1: think about like love and dating and relationships. Is there 337 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 1: anything in addition to what you shared to think about 338 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: in terms of relationship and those kinds of things when 339 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: we talk about the Venus retrograde? 340 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, So Venus has a lot also to do with 341 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 3: our creative instincts, our aesthetic instincts, our artistic instincts. So 342 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:13,360 Speaker 3: this could be a time that's not relational at all 343 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:16,640 Speaker 3: for some folks. For some folks that's maybe rediscovering their beauty, 344 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 3: changing their hair in some kind of way. It could 345 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 3: be reclaiming some creative medium or vessel that you have 346 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:26,919 Speaker 3: put aside to live a life that's calling out to 347 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 3: you in some kind of way. Yeah, So it doesn't 348 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 3: always have to be relational. It doesn't always have to 349 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:34,159 Speaker 3: be something that's romantic. It can even be about friendships, 350 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 3: It can be about community, It can be about the 351 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 3: ways that we are even in relationship to the earth 352 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 3: or family, or to our pets. Right, Venus brings in 353 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 3: kind of all those considerations. I know there's going to 354 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 3: be a heaviness around romantic relationships and all those kinds 355 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 3: of things, but there can be so many other things 356 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 3: in the Venetian bucket of archetypes that come up to 357 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 3: be reconsidered and reinvestigated during this time. 358 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 1: So astrology has historically been used to understand collective eras 359 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 1: and turning points. When you look at the transits happening 360 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 1: through the end of twenty twenty six, what themes emerge 361 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 1: for you, politically, socially, or economically. 362 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 3: So when I'm thinking about the collective and what the 363 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:18,400 Speaker 3: astrology says about the collective, the first thing that's coming 364 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 3: to mind is Chiron and Taurus. I think the last 365 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:24,640 Speaker 3: half of the year, we will be living in the 366 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 3: results of having harmed the planet, like we will see 367 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:30,679 Speaker 3: the amplification of those things. There may be more calls 368 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 3: towards sustainability, more calls towards environmentalism. Chiron is the wounded healer, 369 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:40,640 Speaker 3: so we enter into healing only through things that feel 370 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:44,120 Speaker 3: tender and kind of precarious. So with Chiren and Taurus, 371 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:46,679 Speaker 3: and thinking about the ways in which our food supply 372 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 3: may be affected, that water is affected, and thinking about 373 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 3: maybe more stories and amplification over around just getting what 374 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 3: we need to survive. Right, these kind of Taurus tried 375 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:00,719 Speaker 3: and true basics, like the bread and butter basic of living. 376 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:03,400 Speaker 3: All of that kind of comes up under the purview 377 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 3: of Hiren and Taurus. And even things like I'm watching 378 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 3: the markets, I'm watching how the finances are going to move, 379 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:12,679 Speaker 3: because Taurus also rules money, right, those valuable things that 380 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 3: give our life a sense of substance. So I think 381 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:17,919 Speaker 3: we're going to see an amplification of that. Maybe I 382 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 3: need to innovate or be experimental around ways that we 383 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 3: can take care of the planet given everything that's been 384 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 3: done to the planet at this time. I'm also thinking 385 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:32,679 Speaker 3: in terms of those retrogrades societally and maybe particularly with 386 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 3: our government and with the socioeconomics of the time. Retrogrades 387 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:40,479 Speaker 3: can coincide with like reversals or kind of new things 388 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 3: coming out, or things being blocked or things being. 389 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 2: Checked in some way. 390 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 3: Fire and air has a way of moving, moving in 391 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 3: such a way that can cause harm. 392 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 2: I think about the. 393 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 3: Unprecedented ways that our government is moving and operating in 394 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 3: this time. I look at the mid terms happening around 395 00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 3: these retrogrades. It's like maybe a force of kind of 396 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 3: shopping or checking those powers or checking that accelerated movement 397 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 3: right that can harm so many people, and that has 398 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 3: harmed so many people. And then I'm also thinking about 399 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 3: the nodal shift. Right, we'll have the North node moving 400 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:16,360 Speaker 3: into Aquarius, the South node moving into Leo. So much 401 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:21,120 Speaker 3: amplification here around community and togetherness and a little bit 402 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 3: more of having a sense of scrutiny around again people 403 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 3: that are the few that are getting enriched from the 404 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 3: mini is a story that I'm thinking of or kind 405 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 3: of like what I said with Jupiter and Leo, kind 406 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 3: of check on people's power, a check on who and 407 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:38,439 Speaker 3: what we are centering and why. 408 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 2: So I think we will see broadly. 409 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 3: These themes playing out right, whether it's through celebrity culture 410 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,439 Speaker 3: or through politics or what we're even seeing at a 411 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 3: local government level. This is what I'm looking at as 412 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 3: we move forward in twenty twenty six. 413 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 1: Kamil, Is there anything planetary wise or larger astrology wise 414 00:21:56,240 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 1: that kind of speaks to the proliferation of AI we've 415 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 1: been seeing in the past couple of years, but it 416 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 1: really feels like it is like taken over everything this year. 417 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: Is there anything that feels like it speaks to that 418 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 1: for you? 419 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 3: Yes, So Pluto and Aquarius. Aquarius is a sign of tech, 420 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 3: it's a sign of innovation, and Pluto is a sign 421 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 3: of transformation. We first got a glimpse of Pluto and 422 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 3: Aquarius way back in twenty twenty three, but it's been 423 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 3: setting this stage for like, as you said, the proliferation 424 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 3: of tech and innovating at all costs. I think the 425 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 3: current surge of AI has been accelerated by the fact 426 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 3: that Uranus is in the sign of Gemini. Gemini is communication, 427 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 3: it's how we kind of message and counterpoint with one another. 428 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 3: Gemini is a sign that wants to spread and disseminate 429 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:46,359 Speaker 3: and collect and discover, and Uranus is the modern ruler 430 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,880 Speaker 3: of Aquarius. So there's this through line of like, innovate, 431 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 3: do something new, do something different, what's cutting edge, right, 432 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 3: bringing the future to the present moment in some kind 433 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 3: of way. And so Uranus and Pluto are forming it 434 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:01,160 Speaker 3: trying in the sky. 435 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,880 Speaker 2: It's like this faucet that keeps going between them. 436 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 3: There's an ease with which they're aiding in a bedding 437 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 3: in technological progresses that may or may not be or 438 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 3: really may not be for the good of mankind. Right. 439 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 3: Fluto can sometimes unearth the toxic underbelly of whatever sign 440 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 3: that it is in, and with Aquarius it's like progress 441 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,640 Speaker 3: at all costs, right, leaving the human behind for all 442 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 3: of these you know, advances that we're making. 443 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 2: So I definitely see. 444 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:35,160 Speaker 3: The acceleration of AI being a Pluto problem, but particularly 445 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 3: also in this season of your honest and Gemini and 446 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 3: people winning new different ways. 447 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 2: To communicate or share. 448 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,679 Speaker 3: That is certainly part of the story as well, and 449 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 3: that really got amplified over the spring. 450 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I thought about that because you were talking 451 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: about like how the end of the un call this 452 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,679 Speaker 1: the kind of reckon with the damage we've done to 453 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:55,639 Speaker 1: the planet, right, and as we learn more about like 454 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 1: water consumption and data centers, and you know, it just 455 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 1: feels like at some point it feels like this will 456 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 1: come through a head and so it which is very 457 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 1: curious around your thoughts there. 458 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I totally agree. 459 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 3: But I also feel like humanity is interesting in that 460 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 3: when things get dire, there's a kind of force of 461 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:17,679 Speaker 3: innovation or experimentation that happens right in order to fix 462 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:21,439 Speaker 3: what is going wrong. So even Pluto and Aquarius, though 463 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 3: it does symbolize all these things with AI, it can 464 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 3: also symbolize, Okay, what are the new things that we 465 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 3: need to invent or implement or do to curb the 466 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 3: harm that AI is having on the planet. So that's 467 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:36,639 Speaker 3: also the Chiron in Taurus Pluto and Aquarius story is 468 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:41,880 Speaker 3: like there's tension there, but from that tension, people or communities, right, 469 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,679 Speaker 3: will be galvanized. So like, okay, guys, we really need 470 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 3: to fix this problem or you really need to come 471 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 3: up with like a stop gap or a way to 472 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 3: move forward in a way again that considers the Earth 473 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:54,360 Speaker 3: and her resources. 474 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 1: So without predicting outcomes. Are there certain astrological signatures that 475 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,880 Speaker 1: historically align with periods of collective shifts? 476 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, there is, and we're going through one right now. 477 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 3: It's the Saturn Neptune co presence. They formed a conjunction 478 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 3: earlier this year, in last year. But usually this is 479 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:17,439 Speaker 3: like a changing of the guards when it comes to society. 480 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,199 Speaker 3: Saturn is a planet that has a lot to do 481 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 3: with consensus, reality, reality as we see it, reality as 482 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 3: we feel it. Neptune tends to be the more idealized reality. 483 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 3: What are we hoping towards, what are we reaching towards? 484 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 2: What is the vision? 485 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 3: They formed a conjunction together at zero degrees of ares, 486 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 3: so it's like the very first sign at the very 487 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:42,399 Speaker 3: first degree ushering in this era of again air and fire, 488 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,919 Speaker 3: so tech and progress and movement and all of that. 489 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,719 Speaker 3: There tends to be historically a lot of changes that 490 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:52,919 Speaker 3: happen whenever Saturn and Neptune meet together in the same sign, 491 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 3: and I think the quality of those changes has a 492 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:57,239 Speaker 3: lot to do with the sign that they're in. So 493 00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 3: we're seeing ares which can in its way be about 494 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 3: like pioneering, doing the new thing, moving forward speed, maybe 495 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 3: over accuracy or what they say in Silicon Valley, move 496 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 3: fast and breakings as long as we're getting to the outcome, 497 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 3: but also the disillusionment that results from that. 498 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 2: But that's kind of like. 499 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,119 Speaker 3: The main thing of the main kind of change that 500 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,880 Speaker 3: we are all living within is that Saturn Neptune areas 501 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 3: conjunction at zero degrees, which is ushered in a lot 502 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,439 Speaker 3: of what we're seeing now, especially with tech and AI 503 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 3: and the kind of governance for the few instead of 504 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 3: governance for the many, or the eroding of structures that 505 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 3: we once look to as like fail safe and like 506 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,400 Speaker 3: this is just going to be here, And now we're 507 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 3: in this society that is bringing in change, sometimes in 508 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,639 Speaker 3: ways that are like fun and exciting but sometimes threaten 509 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,159 Speaker 3: the structure that we really need to move forward. 510 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 1: And it feels like that has been a theme for 511 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:55,679 Speaker 1: some time right, and I think many of us have 512 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,639 Speaker 1: felt this sense of unease and like there's been a 513 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 1: collective anxiety, I think, or several years now, how do 514 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 1: you feel like astrology can help us engage with some 515 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 1: of this uncertainty without feeling like there's impending doom. 516 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 2: That's such a great question. 517 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,119 Speaker 3: I talk about this with my colleagues a lot that 518 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 3: astrology doesn't prevent us from needing to weather the storms, 519 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 3: but it gives us a roadmap. So a lot of 520 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 3: us solve these changes coming because we were just looking 521 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 3: forward and projecting the movements of the planets. So what 522 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 3: I think astrology can help all of us do at 523 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 3: varying levels of interest or education around it is except 524 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 3: that this is the time that we're in and then 525 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 3: using astrology as a tool to perform as best we 526 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,879 Speaker 3: can given what is happening or given the kind of 527 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:46,120 Speaker 3: shifts that we find ourselves in. Astrology to me has 528 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,919 Speaker 3: been personally and collectively something that's really helpful for just like, Okay, 529 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 3: this is where we are, this is what we're moving through, 530 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 3: this is the chapter of life that we're in. There's 531 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 3: no denying it. But there is then the agency that 532 00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 3: comes with that, which is like how am I going 533 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 3: to work with it? And how am I going to 534 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 3: show up to it? In some way, And there's so 535 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 3: many beautiful individual ways that all of these planets and 536 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 3: all of these signs can show up for us as 537 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 3: a kind of meeting the moment as best that we can. 538 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 1: So which signs may feel the strongest impact from the 539 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 1: major transits happening through the rest of twenty twenty six. 540 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 3: The fixed signs, So we're talking Taurus, Leo, Aquarius. 541 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 2: And Scorpio. 542 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 3: The reason I say that is because so much activation 543 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 3: is happening in the fixed signs Leo, Taurus, and Aquarius. 544 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 3: So these signs the theme for the rest of the 545 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 3: year that I thought of is a lot of growth 546 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 3: through tension. So there's some pain points to work through, 547 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 3: a need again to think about how to move forward 548 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 3: in the way that feels the most sustainable. But there's 549 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 3: also going to be the solar eclipse in August. It's 550 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 3: going to affect all the fixed signs very personally, equality 551 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 3: of major beginnings and also major endings. So there's just 552 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 3: so much on the table for fixed signs. There's so 553 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 3: much life changing and life altering things that I think 554 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 3: they will be moving through for the rest of this year. 555 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 1: Particularly, Yeah, what do you mean when you say a 556 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 1: fixed sign. 557 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, So all of the signs have a kind of modality. 558 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 3: So we have the cardinal modality which wants to move forward, 559 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 3: start and initiate. That's Ares, that's Libra, that's Cancer, and 560 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 3: that is Capricorn. Then we have the fixed signs. They 561 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 3: come after the cardinal signs. It's like you did all 562 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 3: the starting with the cardinal. Now we're going to sustain. 563 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 3: Now we've got to build where we are, So that's Taurus, Leo, Aquarius, 564 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 3: and Scorpio. They're more about like clinging to things and 565 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 3: more about like building upon things. And then we have 566 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 3: the mutable signs, which is like where we change and 567 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 3: where we things are a little bit more in flux. 568 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 3: So that's Gemini, that's Virgo, that's Sagittarius, and Pisces. These 569 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 3: are signs that are more about like flexibility, more about 570 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 3: like reaching out and discovering new things. So that's what 571 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 3: I mean when I say fixed, cardinal, mutable, or like 572 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 3: the modalities right of all the twelve signs. 573 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 1: Got it more from our conversation after the break, do 574 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 1: you mention that the retrogrades really are going to be 575 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 1: asking all of us to kind of slow down and 576 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 1: pay attention to kind of like our interior life. Are 577 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 1: there any particular signs that are going to be particularly 578 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 1: impacted or I feel this more strongly than others. 579 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 3: Yes, I do think the cardinal and the mutable signs 580 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 3: will be feeling the effects of the retrograde that much more. 581 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 3: The reason I say this is because there's a harmonious 582 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 3: connection with the air and the fire that's being activated 583 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 3: out in the sky that has been working favorably, I 584 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 3: think for the mutable signs and the cardinal signs. So 585 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 3: to start first with the cardinal signs Ares Livra capricorn 586 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 3: cancer to remind folks the first half of twenty twenty 587 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 3: six was a lot about them, like maybe starting over, 588 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 3: but a lot of movement and a lot of doing so. 589 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 3: I think the cardinal signs will feel the impact of 590 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 3: their retrograde that much more because they want to move forward, 591 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 3: and retrograde is all about stopping and looking back. So 592 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 3: they may feel that sense of frustration, they may feel 593 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 3: that sense of I'm at an impasse just a little 594 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 3: bit more deeply. Then we have the mutable signs, which 595 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 3: are about movement, but in a different way. It's more 596 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 3: about like the matrix of movement or I can go here, 597 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 3: I can go there, do a little of this, a 598 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 3: little bit of that. The retrograde for them will also 599 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 3: kind of force them to consolidate their energies or think 600 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 3: a little bit more thoroughly about how to move forward. Yeah, 601 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 3: in a very solid way. So when I'm thinking about 602 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 3: cardinals and the mutable signs, I think the retrogrades are 603 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 3: going to be felt as the most frustrating for them, 604 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 3: just because they're the ones that do like to keep 605 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 3: moving and they're different, nuanced, different ways. 606 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 2: But again, we have to rest, we have to digest, 607 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 2: we have to. 608 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 3: Look back in order to move forward in a way 609 00:31:56,160 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 3: that feels more wise and feels more intentional. For the buckets, 610 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 3: I think of signs that will be feeling the retrogrades 611 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 3: the most. 612 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 1: Thank you. So if someone knows their chart, what should 613 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 1: they look for to understand whether a transit are retrograde 614 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 1: is likely to affect them more personally? So are they 615 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 1: looking at houses, specific planets, angles? What are they looking 616 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 1: for all. 617 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 2: Of the above? 618 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, the chart, the natal chart is such a specific, 619 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 3: unique map. 620 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 2: So it's hard to talk. 621 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 3: It's easy to talk about these things and abstractions like 622 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 3: this is what's going to be happening generally, But if 623 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 3: you pull up your chart, you can see, like, oh, 624 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 3: this is going to be happening in the part of 625 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 3: my life that has to do with work or service 626 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 3: or health or routines. Like pulling up the chart and 627 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 3: seeing transits in the context of your chart helps to 628 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 3: give you. 629 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 2: A little bit more clue or a little bit more. 630 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 3: Details about the exact things that may be coming up 631 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 3: for you. Right, So, if Jupiter in Leo, for instance, 632 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 3: is going to be in someone's fifth house, then I'm saying, oh, 633 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 3: there's a real emphasis on play. There's a real emphasis 634 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 3: on expression or creativity here. But if Jupiter and Leo 635 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 3: maybe isn't someone sick house where it's more about routine 636 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 3: and work, then I'm thinking about, yeah, play in creative, 637 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 3: creativity and expression, but within the context of like work 638 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 3: and duty and service or showing up to these things 639 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 3: in a more regimented way. So, yeah, the natal chart 640 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 3: has everything to do with how this is going to 641 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 3: show up for some folks. Some people may have a 642 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 3: planet in Leo that's going to get supercharged, and some 643 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 3: people then may have a planet in Scorpio that's going 644 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 3: to feel a little bit of that tension. So always, always, 645 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 3: always looking towards your own natal chart to get a 646 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 3: little bit more context about where these larger collective changes 647 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 3: are going to be happening for you inside of your 648 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 3: own personal life. 649 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 1: And if people are curious about their natal child that 650 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 1: haven't actually gotten this done, where can they look to 651 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 1: get this done for themselves. 652 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 3: Well, there's a lot of free chart generators, so you 653 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 3: can literally google natle chart and there's so many great 654 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 3: softwares out there. But I'll also do a Jupiter and 655 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 3: Leo plug for myself. If you have trouble reading your chart, 656 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 3: there's so many things and it's hard to digest. You 657 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 3: can come to someone like me, an astrologer to help 658 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 3: you dissect what it all means and to help kind 659 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 3: of give you the groundwork and then the foundation to 660 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 3: be able to be like, Okay, then I know how 661 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,880 Speaker 3: these transits are going to be affecting me. So always 662 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:19,360 Speaker 3: always using a human not AI right to help you 663 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 3: discover these things about yourself. But a lot of free 664 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,279 Speaker 3: chart generators will get you halfway there. 665 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, So I want to run through all of the signs, 666 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:29,239 Speaker 1: and it would love for you to give us, maybe 667 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 1: a short affirmation for what kind of things they might 668 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 1: want to hold on to for the rest of the year. Okay, 669 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,360 Speaker 1: so first with cancer. 670 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:42,239 Speaker 3: Okay, So for cancer, I would say the affirmation is 671 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 3: how do I move forward and still make space to 672 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:54,439 Speaker 3: care for my heart? Beautiful Leo, I would say for Leo, 673 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:58,240 Speaker 3: it's time to shine, take up space, enter the stage 674 00:34:58,239 --> 00:34:58,760 Speaker 3: of life. 675 00:34:59,120 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 2: It's your year. 676 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 1: Virgo. 677 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:08,280 Speaker 3: For Virgo, I would say, tending to the small things 678 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 3: is how you will reach the big dream. 679 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:13,360 Speaker 1: Libra. 680 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 3: For Libra, I would say, be discerning about the people 681 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 3: that you choose to spend your precious time with Scorebio. 682 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 3: For Scorpio, I would say, it's time to come out 683 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 3: of the shadows. It's time to get a little bit 684 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:34,920 Speaker 3: more comfortable with being seen and being visible. 685 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:36,720 Speaker 1: Sagittarius. 686 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 3: Sagittarius, it is time to make that itinery as large 687 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,840 Speaker 3: as possible. Get out there, discover like the world is 688 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:50,239 Speaker 3: your oyster at this time, So take that big leap 689 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 3: of faith out there. 690 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:52,719 Speaker 1: Capricorn. 691 00:35:54,880 --> 00:36:00,799 Speaker 3: For Capricorn, I would say, gosh, this year is a 692 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:04,839 Speaker 3: lot about starting over. So with Capricorn, I would say, 693 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 3: do not fear having to start from scratch. There's something 694 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,799 Speaker 3: in the beginning that is part of the legacy that 695 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:18,400 Speaker 3: you are building. Yeah, aquerie, Oh Aquarius, a lot of 696 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 3: personal transformation this year. 697 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 2: Let go of the ways of. 698 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,200 Speaker 3: Being that just do not serve you and step into 699 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 3: a new way of being. As scary as it may be, 700 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 3: that's more in alignment with what you're meant to do. Pieces, Oh, Pisces, 701 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 3: the eclipses are finally leaving you alone. 702 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:38,120 Speaker 2: You can take a breath. 703 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 3: I would say this year, I would say for Pisces, 704 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:45,280 Speaker 3: focus on rest, focus on recovery, and always, always, always 705 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 3: tending that spiritual flame within that'll help you show up 706 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:49,280 Speaker 3: and meet the world. 707 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:50,920 Speaker 1: Aries. 708 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:57,440 Speaker 3: Time to be bold Aries, but for specifically Arees, maybe 709 00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,719 Speaker 3: I would say it's okay if you're not moving asked 710 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,719 Speaker 3: to take any step forward or even to move backwards, 711 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:04,319 Speaker 3: doesn't mean you. 712 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 2: Won't get there. 713 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 3: So be calm, be patient, and with their journey unravel Taurus, Taurus, 714 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:15,040 Speaker 3: it is time to focus on healing the body. It 715 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 3: is time to get back to the basics. Remember your rhythms, 716 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 3: remember your nature. A lot is growing and changing around you, 717 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 3: but don't forget about the body and the present moment. 718 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:28,120 Speaker 1: And Gemini. 719 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 3: Gemini there's a lot out there to collect and to 720 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 3: play with and discover this year that continues, but again 721 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:38,960 Speaker 3: just doing it with an eye on how do I 722 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:42,759 Speaker 3: consolidate this as I move forward? And also how can 723 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:44,440 Speaker 3: I do it in a way that it's sustainable. 724 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 1: So you mentioned with Pisce, then the planetary shoes that 725 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:49,600 Speaker 1: can finally. 726 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:50,040 Speaker 2: Leave them alone. 727 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,319 Speaker 1: What would you say to people who maybe are coming 728 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,080 Speaker 1: out of a difficult kind of retrograde period, like what 729 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,360 Speaker 1: does it look like to actually tint to yourself again 730 00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,280 Speaker 1: and you know, nurse those wounds so to speak. 731 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,799 Speaker 3: Maybe Yeah, if a client came to me asking the 732 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:06,600 Speaker 3: same question, I would say, what did you learn? What 733 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,919 Speaker 3: did you learn about yourself during the difficult time during 734 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:13,640 Speaker 3: the eclipses during Saturn being in your sign? What are 735 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,279 Speaker 3: the lessons? What are the gems that you picked up 736 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 3: from that season of difficulty? And how can you be 737 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,319 Speaker 3: grateful for it in such a way that allows you 738 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,799 Speaker 3: to move forward not being scared about the next hard time, 739 00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 3: but being really really fortified and feeling strong with respect 740 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,879 Speaker 3: to your capacity to face what comes your way. 741 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 1: Thank you in it. So, how should we all be 742 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,799 Speaker 1: looking at astrology to set intentions for the rest of 743 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:39,200 Speaker 1: the year. 744 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,759 Speaker 3: Again, I think astrology is really good at telling us 745 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,279 Speaker 3: the time that we are in and telling us the 746 00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:50,320 Speaker 3: particular chapter that we all are in. So looking at 747 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:54,120 Speaker 3: the rest of astrology for twenty twenty six with respect 748 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:56,480 Speaker 3: to like what's going to be activated for you or 749 00:38:56,560 --> 00:39:00,560 Speaker 3: what are you moving through and basing your intentions on 750 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 3: what you see being activated. Right, So, for some folks, 751 00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 3: if the intention is I want to keep moving forward, 752 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:08,319 Speaker 3: when I want to move forward with some amount of 753 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,560 Speaker 3: intention and care for the body, then having an intention 754 00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,920 Speaker 3: around again like how do I remember myself or how 755 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:16,719 Speaker 3: do I remember my rhythms, or how do I do 756 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,120 Speaker 3: this in a way that feels slow and that feels 757 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:21,440 Speaker 3: really really good. I think that when you know what 758 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,640 Speaker 3: the year is asking of all of us, then you 759 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:27,000 Speaker 3: can kind of tailor your intentions right to kind of 760 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,799 Speaker 3: match how you want to meet that energy. So astrology 761 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,239 Speaker 3: is really good about just being like, Okay, this is 762 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,960 Speaker 3: the story that's being written. You get to decide what 763 00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:39,319 Speaker 3: character you want to inhabit as that story is unraveling, 764 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,000 Speaker 3: and having a sense of intention about how you want 765 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:43,480 Speaker 3: to show up in that story. 766 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,800 Speaker 1: So Camille, let us know where we can stay connected 767 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:48,320 Speaker 1: with you. We would like to work with you to 768 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,080 Speaker 1: get our chart done or have continuing sessions. What is 769 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,640 Speaker 1: your website as well as any social media channels you'd 770 00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:54,280 Speaker 1: like to share? 771 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, my website is Camille Michelle Gray dot com. On 772 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:03,880 Speaker 3: there can find the consultations that I've offered, but also 773 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:07,840 Speaker 3: things that I've written about astrology. I'm also at Millie 774 00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,360 Speaker 3: Michelle AM I L L Y AM I C H 775 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:14,240 Speaker 3: E L L E primarily on Instagram sharing all sorts 776 00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,839 Speaker 3: of musing and tidbits about astrology. 777 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:17,360 Speaker 2: Perfect. 778 00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,399 Speaker 1: We'll be sure to include that in our show notes. 779 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,359 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for spending some time with us today. 780 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:22,239 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. 781 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:23,959 Speaker 2: Of course it's going to pleasure doctor Joy. 782 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,040 Speaker 1: I'm so glad Camil was able to join me for 783 00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,839 Speaker 1: today's conversation. I hope you enjoyed it as much as 784 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,080 Speaker 1: I did. To learn more about her and her work, 785 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,040 Speaker 1: be sure to visit the show notes at Therapy for 786 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,520 Speaker 1: Blackgirls dot com slash session for seventy two, and don't 787 00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:41,640 Speaker 1: forget to text this episode to two of your girls 788 00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:43,920 Speaker 1: right now and tell them to check it out. Did 789 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:45,600 Speaker 1: you know that you could leave us a voicemail with 790 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,600 Speaker 1: your questions or suggestions for the podcast, Drop us a 791 00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:51,320 Speaker 1: message at mimo dot fm slash Therapy for Black Girls 792 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,200 Speaker 1: and let us know what's on your mind. We just 793 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,640 Speaker 1: might feature it on the podcast. If you're looking for 794 00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,520 Speaker 1: a therapist in your area, visit our therapist directory at 795 00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,880 Speaker 1: Therapy for Blackgirls dot com slash directory. Don't forget to 796 00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,719 Speaker 1: follow us on Instagram at Therapy for Black Girls and 797 00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:08,200 Speaker 1: join us in our Patreon community for exclusive updates, behind 798 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,839 Speaker 1: the scenes content, and much more. You can join us 799 00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:14,280 Speaker 1: at community dot Therapy for Blackgirls dot com. This episode 800 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:18,280 Speaker 1: was produced by Elise Ellis, Indechubu and Bria Moseley. Editing 801 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:20,640 Speaker 1: was done by Dennis and Bradford. Thank y'all so much 802 00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:22,759 Speaker 1: for joining me again this week. I look forward to 803 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:26,279 Speaker 1: continuing this conversation with you all real soon. Take good care.