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Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know are

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Speaker 1: you a Charlotte? Welcome back everybody to Are You a Charlotte?

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Speaker 1: Part two? Thanks for joining us. Here we go. Now

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get to my favorite favorite storyline of the

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Speaker 1: whole thing, probably because I'm sober. I've been sober a

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Speaker 1: very long time. This carry storyline.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I thought, actually, oh, you go ahead, but you okay,

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say this storyline felt like more real

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Speaker 2: than a not that the other ones are, but this

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Speaker 2: felt like very relatable, more than the usual I'm with.

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Speaker 2: Usually it's a little more like salacious or like extreme,

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Speaker 2: and this was like something most people have been through the.

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Speaker 1: Story and I loved it so much. And I remember zero,

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Speaker 1: absolutely zero. And this guy I don't remember this guy,

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Speaker 1: but he's incredible. That guy is so good. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: figure out his name. Okay. So this is Carrie's storyline,

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Speaker 1: you guys, And if you haven't seen this episode, do

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Speaker 1: you need watch it only for Carrie's storyline, if for

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Speaker 1: nothing else. So this is the episode wasn't good for you?

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Speaker 1: And basically, so this is the one thing that I

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Speaker 1: love as well. You know, Carrie smokes back back in

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Speaker 1: the day, right and later on too. But you know,

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Speaker 1: this is funny because now no one smokes. No one

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Speaker 1: gets to smoke now in film and TV basically, which

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Speaker 1: is a very interesting thing. My kids think smoking is

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Speaker 1: like like anyone who has a cigarette. I mean, we

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Speaker 1: was gonna start. Like they have such a fascinating reaction,

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, yeah, they're terrible. Cigarettes are terrible, because

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Speaker 1: of course I don't want my kids to smoke, right,

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Speaker 1: but it's just funny, like it was a rite of

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Speaker 1: smoking face. Don't tell my mother I said that. If

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Speaker 1: you're listening, mom, I never had a smoking face. And

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Speaker 1: really when I smoked, it was when I was in

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Speaker 1: And then we would go and sit on some strangers stoop,

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Speaker 1: which is all very funny ending up where I did,

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Speaker 1: you know, filming a show on a stoop in the

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Speaker 1: village and we would sit and smoke. I would try

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Speaker 1: So thank god I am not a smoker in Sex

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Speaker 1: But Carrie is So Carrie's walking down the street and

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Speaker 1: this handsome guy has his back to her. He's standing

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Speaker 1: and she's really like peeved, you know, which is funny

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Speaker 1: you know, it hits her arm, and he he's like,

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Speaker 1: Let's see what is this guy's name, Oh, Patrick Casey, Yes, Patrick.

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Speaker 1: She says his name a lot too, which is interesting. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: she seems fond of his name. This is an important

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Speaker 1: central question of the show, this particular episode, your performance

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Speaker 1: how how Charlotte you know the guy sleeping? Yeah one,

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Speaker 1: they're theoretically have you said? Then we go to the

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Speaker 1: everybody has their different like two cents to say about

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Speaker 1: you know, like whether right right? And it is an

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Speaker 1: interesting question. And I wonder now in the days of

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Speaker 1: I wonder what the young people feel about performance? Do

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Speaker 1: Wonder if they worry about it?

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Speaker 2: I get it, but this is your job. It is

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Speaker 1: The call her Daddy podcast. No let me.

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Speaker 2: Tell you no, No, I mean you heard of it.

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Speaker 1: Yes. So this woman, Alex Cooper, Yes, fascinating individual okay,

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Speaker 1: an incredible interviewer okay. But one of the things, she's

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Speaker 1: because she has the Carrie like I'm gonna understand it,

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Speaker 1: feel I should, just from a female perspective, she gives

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Speaker 1: So it's like it's in depth, okay, like in depth.

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Speaker 3: Direction tantric sex class you guys watched in your episodes.

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Speaker 1: More so even like more so yeah, I know. So,

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Speaker 1: so that reminded me of the young people and their performance. Right,

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Speaker 1: She's she's out there, okay, and I love her for it.

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Speaker 2: I call her daddy, call her daddy cut that I

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Speaker 2: But I feel like sex and the City back then

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Speaker 3: Or whatever whatever, That's what was. It made it take

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Speaker 1: So thankful that we were there to do it, you

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Speaker 1: Like for Charlotte, it definitely definitely matters, right, And so

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Speaker 1: Anyway, He's like, ah, you're so good, you know whatever,

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Speaker 1: You didn't have like the fress.

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Speaker 1: I order ABC carpet in La Man. I'm like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Like, this is how royalty lives. Like when you go

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Speaker 3: I mean that's not really my style.

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Speaker 1: I get it.

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Speaker 3: But anyway again, tangent, I get it.

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Speaker 2: No, I love, go ahead, go ahead.

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Speaker 1: She has beautiful peach colored sheet, which seems odd, okay,

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Speaker 1: like Miranda buys peach. Strange to me, but whatever, she

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Speaker 1: beautiful and maybe they will come. And Carrie says, like,

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Speaker 1: feel the dreams. If you feel this, they will come.

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Speaker 1: This dude, what is the name, the real dude, the

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Speaker 1: Patrick Casey. His name is Richard Joseph Paul. Okay, is

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Speaker 1: that not confusing? Three and you have? His name is

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Speaker 1: Richard Joseph. I don't know where he is now. I

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Speaker 2: It's a little rash.

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Speaker 1: It's a lot. And the thing that I do think

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Speaker 1: about her, which I think is is impressive because she

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Speaker 1: is a sex columnist, right, so she's hearing so many

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Speaker 1: different stories about relationships and sex and different things. Right,

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Speaker 1: she's kind of like this receptacle of all the Manhattan stories.

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Speaker 1: You know, she knows enough intellectually like, oh, yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: probably not a good thing that he's investing his love

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Speaker 1: after a week and a half, right, you know, yes,

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Speaker 1: but that is a very rational thing. But I have

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Speaker 1: had certainly times where people seem overboard, and I feel

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Speaker 1: like that the issue is that you're not in it

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Speaker 1: with them, Like, it's not so great if you're not

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Speaker 1: also feeling right. I mean, I have also gone too

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Speaker 1: fast myself, right, But as long as you're in it together, hey, fun,

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Speaker 1: probably not gonna last, but really a good time. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, we did. We're done.

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Speaker 3: We did. We did. My gosh, thank you, rach sure,

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Speaker 3: thank you for having me.

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Speaker 1: It was wonderful. Yeah, I'm gonna come visit you on

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Speaker 1: the wool.

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Speaker 3: Yes, you know, Chris is gonna come.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna talk about being Pisces and beyond. Yes, be woo.

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Speaker 2: Let's be some woo wool together. Okay, good, I love it.

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Speaker 2: It'll be fun.

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Speaker 1: I know it's good that you were on talk about

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Speaker 1: the tantric sex. We need a woo woo talk about

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Speaker 1: the sex.

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Speaker 3: Not I'm no expert on tantric sex.

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Speaker 1: That's okay, but category it is definitely right.

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Speaker 3: Yes, all right, what.

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Speaker 1: Are you a Charlotte?

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Speaker 3: Oh do you ask that at the end of you

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Speaker 3: I'm a Charlotte.

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Speaker 1: In what way? I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I just relate to the person that's kind of like

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Speaker 2: what what did you do? You know, like like that

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Speaker 2: kind of thing to one of my friends.

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Speaker 3: Well, I guess I'm thinking back to like being that age.

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Speaker 2: But I mean, I guess I'm like, well, I guess

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Speaker 2: I think of like Charlotte and Miranda and Carrie kind

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Speaker 2: of in one thing, and then there's like the Samantha.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm.

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Speaker 2: Definitely not a Samantha Casy can't tell from my vibes,

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Speaker 2: but I'd say I'm somewhere in the other three realm Yes.

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Speaker 1: Got it, but different ones at different times.

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Speaker 3: Yes, But I relate.

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Speaker 1: I I also relate to the to the huh what,

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Speaker 1: huh yeah what Yeah, that's kind of the easiest part

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Speaker 1: of me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that seems.

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Speaker 2: Really fun to play and to be on a comedy,

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Speaker 2: you know, the innocent, wide eyed like what.

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Speaker 1: And when I look back at the show, one of

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Speaker 1: the things that I think about, compared to and just

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Speaker 1: like that is that I was often just responding to

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Speaker 1: them until I get into the whole like I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: get married and I've got this recond and then when

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Speaker 1: and just like that came, Michael Patrick would say to me, like,

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Speaker 1: you're driving this scene. I'd be like, oh no, I

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Speaker 1: want them to drive.

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Speaker 3: Right right, that's your vibe is to be the the

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Speaker 3: reactor and.

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Speaker 1: That Yeah, I mean I had to still react, but

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Speaker 1: then I also had to drive the scene, especially like

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Speaker 1: in Charlotte's Family. Ya dynamic, yes, like the captain or whatever. Exhausting, gosh,

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Speaker 1: I like the reacting fun time.

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Speaker 3: Too, right.

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Speaker 2: I've kind of learned that, like just over the years,

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Speaker 2: like I kind of like being the person like comes

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Speaker 2: out and says the little thing goes back like it's

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Speaker 2: fun the person.

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Speaker 3: It's like, you know, I feel the same.

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Speaker 1: I feel the same.

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Speaker 3: Just know thyself, I know.

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Speaker 4: And we all contribute, Yes we do, right, Yeah, they

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Speaker 4: need us, they're saying, right, I won't be up there

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Speaker 4: by myself now, all right, all.

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Speaker 3: Right, Well that was fun.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, two pieces, Thank you, two pieces in a room, yes,

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Speaker 1: with some mics