WEBVTT - Questlove Supreme: Boyz II Men (Part 2)

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, what's up everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Quest Love and please make sure that you're up

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<v Speaker 2>to date on my podcast, The Quest Love Show. However,

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<v Speaker 2>it's Quest Love Supreme for life. Back in late twenty twenty,

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<v Speaker 2>in the thick of the pandemic, QLs had my guys

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<v Speaker 2>one Boys to Men for a two part podcast discussion.

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<v Speaker 2>It's damn near three hours of conversation when we get

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<v Speaker 2>real and all the stories behind this incredible record breaking group.

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<v Speaker 2>So join me Fon, tigelow Laiya, Unpaid Bill and Sugar

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<v Speaker 2>Steve for this amazing touchstone interview with a lot of humor,

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<v Speaker 2>candor and realness.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you to Nate, Sean and Wanye.

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<v Speaker 2>Shout out to you to Mike and Mark, You're all

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<v Speaker 2>Boys to Men to me, you guys humbled me and

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<v Speaker 2>also gave one incredible conversation at a time when we

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<v Speaker 2>needed it. So here's Part two of Boys to Men

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<v Speaker 2>on Quest Love Supreme. Quest Love Supreme is a production

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<v Speaker 2>of iHeartRadio. Ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to part two of

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<v Speaker 2>our talk with Boys to Men. I gotta say we

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<v Speaker 2>were having.

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<v Speaker 1>So much fun. I didn't even know it was going

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<v Speaker 1>to be this much fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Normally we could wrap up a Quest Love Supreme episode

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<v Speaker 2>and just you know, like shy of it, north of

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<v Speaker 2>an hour and I don't know the time, just kept

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<v Speaker 2>going on and next thing you know is two episodes worth.

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<v Speaker 2>So I haven't had this extensive of a talk with

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<v Speaker 2>them since our days in high school. So it's really

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<v Speaker 2>good to catch up with the guys. I hope you're

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<v Speaker 2>enjoying it. Without further ado, Part two of our conversation

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<v Speaker 2>Quest Love Supreme.

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<v Speaker 3>And Boys to Men.

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<v Speaker 1>Of the projects you worked on, what's your favorite? What

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<v Speaker 1>is your favorite one? What do you feel about from

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<v Speaker 1>artistic achievement? What do you feel like this is? This

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<v Speaker 1>is my legacy.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I won't say project per se, but I would

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<v Speaker 4>say one of my biggest enjoyments at this stage and

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<v Speaker 4>age in my career and where we are is when

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<v Speaker 4>we do our orchestra concerts. We do a concert with

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<v Speaker 4>just us us three vocally and you know, whatever orchestral

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<v Speaker 4>we're around, whether it's in New York Symphonic orchestral, whether

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<v Speaker 4>with La and the Hollywood Bowl, and we do all

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<v Speaker 4>of our records and it's all stripped down to just

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<v Speaker 4>strings and brass and drums, nothing electronic at all and

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<v Speaker 4>it's just.

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<v Speaker 3>It's an atmosphere.

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<v Speaker 4>It's an atmosphere that because you've been involved in the

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<v Speaker 4>business the way we have so long. You go on tour,

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<v Speaker 4>you got the samples in the backgrounds and you sing

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<v Speaker 4>over here and the drums and the guitars, electric everything.

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<v Speaker 4>When they strip all that out, it takes you back

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<v Speaker 4>to the high school performing arts. It's almost like everybody,

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<v Speaker 4>it's the door just opens. It's a brand new, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>fresh air to where the vocals have room to breathe,

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<v Speaker 4>like you live in a whole different space. You're not

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<v Speaker 4>fighting against the electronic keyboard or somebody's base being too loud.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, you just get to flow over the strings

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<v Speaker 4>and the harps and the whole nine. And for me,

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<v Speaker 4>whenever we do all the stuff that we do with

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<v Speaker 4>everything jumping around or whatever, whenever they say there's an

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<v Speaker 4>orchestra concert, it's just a sigh of relax and relief

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<v Speaker 4>to where it's like, thank you Jesus, now let's just

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<v Speaker 4>go and sing our songs.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's just the best.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm gonna tell you one thing I'm here, the thing

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<v Speaker 5>that i've I've our goal, or rather, the thing I'm

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<v Speaker 5>most proud of is something we haven't done yet, and

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<v Speaker 5>I hope we do it because we've had this conversation before,

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<v Speaker 5>and that's to do an acoustics show, like you know,

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<v Speaker 5>the guy you know, we've all learned how to play

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<v Speaker 5>guitars and you.

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<v Speaker 6>Know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that's I totally forgot.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, so you know, we talked.

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<v Speaker 6>About this as far as actually doing like, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>a set or unplugged type of show.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, how long have you guys been doing that format

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<v Speaker 1>for our listeners?

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<v Speaker 8>Don't know?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the last time I seen you guys before him,

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<v Speaker 2>it was you three with your guitars, which I didn't know.

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<v Speaker 8>Me, No, we didn't know.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, Nate, Nate plays bass and I played guitar, and

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<v Speaker 6>and uh we started playing around.

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<v Speaker 8>Uh what is it?

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<v Speaker 5>I was forty three, so that was five years ago.

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<v Speaker 5>So that was in twenty fourteen, fifteen something like that,

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<v Speaker 5>and we just started to play. We just felt like

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<v Speaker 5>it was an idea. It was around the time we

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<v Speaker 5>did this.

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<v Speaker 8>Album called Collide, Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 5>One of the guys was like that was working with us,

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<v Speaker 5>was like, yo, you guys know how to play guitars,

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<v Speaker 5>And it was like I guess we should. So, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>Nate and I went to Tower in Vegas and I

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<v Speaker 5>picked up a you know, a modern size strap, and

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<v Speaker 5>he picked up a bass. And I've been playing ever since,

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<v Speaker 5>and Nate's been playing ever since. And it's broad in

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<v Speaker 5>the show to the point now where we've added guitar

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<v Speaker 5>parts to the show and and you know, acoustic and electric,

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<v Speaker 5>and this is something that has opened all of our

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<v Speaker 5>to the possibilities of us taking our music to even

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<v Speaker 5>another stage and you know, potentially just doing an all

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<v Speaker 5>unplugged type of thing because we did it like you

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<v Speaker 5>just like you said the last time you saw us,

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<v Speaker 5>we were doing Come Together, you know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 5>Like you know, and and water runs dry and I'll

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<v Speaker 5>make love to you all acoustical that it was incredible.

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<v Speaker 9>I loved it.

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<v Speaker 8>You got you gotta do that out there.

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to say where y'all got there?

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<v Speaker 10>Of course, really right, I wanted to not invited, man, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 10>I wanted to jump back on y'all on your production

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<v Speaker 10>for a little while you were speaking, Nick, you were

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<v Speaker 10>saying earlier just about how you know the records that

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<v Speaker 10>you guys did and versus the records that you know that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that I'll make love to use in the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the roads.

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<v Speaker 10>I always thought, just as a fan of you guys,

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<v Speaker 10>whenever people would make the argument of like, you know,

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<v Speaker 10>the boys Men versus Jodasy argument like what Jodasy was

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<v Speaker 10>more this, but boys Men was kind of clean cut.

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<v Speaker 10>I will always go to y'all production and I would

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<v Speaker 10>say like, nah, this is what they really own. So

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<v Speaker 10>like Nate, you did a record, the Johnny Guil record,

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<v Speaker 10>I Got you.

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<v Speaker 1>And think of you case.

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<v Speaker 10>And when y'all did the one twelve now that we're

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<v Speaker 10>done like the off the stuff like that, to me,

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<v Speaker 10>I was like, nah, this is what these niggas is

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<v Speaker 10>really on.

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<v Speaker 9>You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 3>So well, you know, we were always wanted to get

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<v Speaker 3>you know about it was.

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<v Speaker 1>The jo Tosy boys of Men thing, Like was that

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<v Speaker 1>a thing? Were you black versus it was?

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<v Speaker 4>It was real, but not created by us. It was

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<v Speaker 4>real because we were already good friends. We freaking love

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<v Speaker 4>like Jodsy is just like I mean, it's ying and Yang.

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<v Speaker 4>There would be no Jodasy with our boys to mend

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<v Speaker 4>and vice versa. And we every time we would see

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<v Speaker 4>him on the road, we try to catch up with him.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, we love those dudes.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean the audience has made it more of the oppetition,

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<v Speaker 4>and it was it was more friendly for us.

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<v Speaker 3>But I mean there there are different identities.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, you know Jodashy, you know they have the

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<v Speaker 4>two singers and they had the producer, and you know,

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<v Speaker 4>we had the four singers and the three producers. I

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<v Speaker 4>mean we kind of did a little bit of everything,

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<v Speaker 4>so everybody had their own little genre, but producing and

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<v Speaker 4>writing with something again that we really enjoyed because we're

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<v Speaker 4>the type of guys that you know, being being emotional.

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<v Speaker 3>We like to sing what we write, you know what

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<v Speaker 3>I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 4>And when we got a chance to get with Face

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<v Speaker 4>and Jimmy and Terry and out, I'm like, all the

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<v Speaker 4>lessons we could possibly learn from those guys, we tried

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<v Speaker 4>to roll over into the stuff that we did. But

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<v Speaker 4>for as far as like I said, we we wrote.

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<v Speaker 4>The first song I ever wrote in my life was

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<v Speaker 4>please don't Know.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I was fourteen fifteen years old, so.

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<v Speaker 4>Well that's years of getting stomped on.

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<v Speaker 3>Like you know, like we talked about, the nobody really

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<v Speaker 3>checked for us. But my point being, we all come

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<v Speaker 3>from that.

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<v Speaker 4>All four of us came from writing words down and

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<v Speaker 4>creating songs and singing them.

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<v Speaker 3>That's how our whole career jumped off.

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<v Speaker 8>So as it went in, you know those.

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<v Speaker 4>Songs you talk about now that we're done, all those

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<v Speaker 4>other songs, and that was the stuff that we just

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<v Speaker 4>naturally did because that was that's part of who we were.

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<v Speaker 4>It just may out have always gotten on the Boys

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<v Speaker 4>to Men albums because I lost many produced songs.

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<v Speaker 10>Man, Yeah, I love Sean like even like your shn

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<v Speaker 10>just soundtrack stuff. And I told you this before in

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<v Speaker 10>presompation like the Visions of the Sunset and like the

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<v Speaker 10>record you did.

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<v Speaker 8>Months Man, I love that round.

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<v Speaker 3>Real quick.

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<v Speaker 8>I want to cut you off.

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<v Speaker 4>But the time I heard that song, when when I

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<v Speaker 4>heard because I know he played keys on it, When

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<v Speaker 4>I first heard that, dude, I had a tear in

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<v Speaker 4>my eye. That's my that's my brother. I had a

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<v Speaker 4>tear when I heard. I was like, Oh, I just

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<v Speaker 4>wanted to crawl up and throt position like.

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<v Speaker 9>I love him to keep a couple of times because

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<v Speaker 9>I loved that song.

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<v Speaker 3>I love, love love that song.

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<v Speaker 4>Man.

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<v Speaker 10>Before I forget, oh, before I forget dude, what happened

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<v Speaker 10>to Uncle Sam.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh he out did getting some of that Jesus money.

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<v Speaker 3>But anyway, he actually is getting Jesus money.

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<v Speaker 4>But we we had him signed the Stone Creek, our

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<v Speaker 4>record labeled back in Philly, and we all, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>we all fell in love with him the first day

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<v Speaker 4>we heard him, and I felt there was something we

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<v Speaker 4>could work with. We went in and produced the record

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<v Speaker 4>and uh, I think the album. The album sold a

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<v Speaker 4>million records and you know, the single, so the million

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<v Speaker 4>records and the album was half so half a Manion Records.

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<v Speaker 4>And then we went back in to renegotiate with Epic

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<v Speaker 4>to do another record, and unfortunately he wasn't really happy

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<v Speaker 4>with his terms. Now, we'll tell you one thing that

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<v Speaker 4>we learned in our business. For us, we don't treat

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<v Speaker 4>people the way we were treated a lot of artisan

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<v Speaker 4>producers be like, well, you know, I went through it,

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<v Speaker 4>and you got to go through.

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<v Speaker 8>We would never know those guys.

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<v Speaker 4>We made sure that the deals you got you were

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<v Speaker 4>happy with, and if you didn't like those deals, we

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<v Speaker 4>could tear those deals up and you could walk. But

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<v Speaker 4>you know, Sam, for some reason at that time, had

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<v Speaker 4>a whole different agenda of what he really wanted to do,

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<v Speaker 4>and we didn't really want, you know, stifle him from that,

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<v Speaker 4>so we said, okay, well that's you want to do.

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<v Speaker 3>Cool.

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<v Speaker 4>So when we walked from him, the label said, well, well,

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<v Speaker 4>if y'all ain't with him, we ain't with him.

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<v Speaker 8>So that's why I.

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<v Speaker 6>Yep, can I ask.

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<v Speaker 11>Y'all it's funny I mentioned that the joasy thing.

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<v Speaker 12>I was kind of always curious how y'all felt, since

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<v Speaker 12>they were kind of allowed to be the bad boys.

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<v Speaker 12>But y'all, especially at the end of the road, it

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<v Speaker 12>was like a whole persona preppiness or whatever. But knowing

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<v Speaker 12>who y'all really are is South Philly, Philly y'all.

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<v Speaker 3>Personally, I personally took to yeah problem.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, I was gonna say, what was that like?

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<v Speaker 12>And how was it like wearing those masks at times

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<v Speaker 12>when you really had to wear the mask?

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like, was Alexander Pool a real person?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>He was after he was a character.

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<v Speaker 6>To watch a TV watch it all the time, and

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<v Speaker 6>that's how he came up with the look because he

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<v Speaker 6>used to trust that way.

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<v Speaker 3>But he ain't live at seventeen Christians. So yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>used to have it.

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<v Speaker 4>I used to have a problem having to do that

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<v Speaker 4>because that wasn't me, wasn't even close to me, you

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<v Speaker 4>know what I'm saying. So to watch them get out

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<v Speaker 4>there and have a chance to just be regular niggas,

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<v Speaker 4>I had a problem with that, right.

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<v Speaker 8>I just wanted.

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<v Speaker 4>I just wanted to be me, and I couldn't because

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<v Speaker 4>I had to protect the entity of my guys.

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<v Speaker 8>And it is what it is.

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<v Speaker 6>I was the suburbs, so you know, you know, I

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<v Speaker 6>had to you know, ilation.

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<v Speaker 3>Withs with me.

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<v Speaker 13>I feel like, you know, I guess at a young age,

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<v Speaker 13>I was looking at it as the music called for

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<v Speaker 13>the entertainment value, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 9>I mean their music was gritty, their music was you

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<v Speaker 9>know what I'm saying, So you have him.

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<v Speaker 13>It was you know, it was that and and we

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<v Speaker 13>weren't there, so we couldn't personify that type of you know, uh,

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<v Speaker 13>we couldn't be that character, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 13>And the funny thing is is what people don't understand

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<v Speaker 13>is what made us non offensive. It is no matter

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<v Speaker 13>what we were singing, we were no character.

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<v Speaker 9>You understand.

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<v Speaker 13>We were characters of our own personification, singing love songs,

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<v Speaker 13>which made it so non offensive. People couldn't pinpoint it.

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<v Speaker 13>They didn't know we was black or white, you know

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<v Speaker 13>what I'm saying, until they actually saw us. You gotta understand,

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<v Speaker 13>the two album was bigger than Koli. How Harmony we

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<v Speaker 13>weren't on Koli. How harmony we weren't on the two albums.

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<v Speaker 1>On the cover, we weren't on the cover.

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<v Speaker 3>That was another fight that they wanted us to cover,

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<v Speaker 3>and we wouldn't want to.

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<v Speaker 1>Pull the Brothers sixties move? Wait, why why why did

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<v Speaker 1>you do that?

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<v Speaker 3>We had uh got it? No?

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<v Speaker 5>I mean basically, we wanted it to be about the music,

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<v Speaker 5>and we understood that, you know, being quite frankly, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>our faces on the cover we felt at this point

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<v Speaker 5>was kind of corny.

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<v Speaker 6>So we were like, we wanted to make, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>the album itself be the concept.

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<v Speaker 8>So and one came up with a damn good logo.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like like I came into with the time, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I drew that, I do it.

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<v Speaker 9>Pencil drew it.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, kyan Ye drew it right, and and and he

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<v Speaker 5>put it all together. Yanye actually drew this. So we

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<v Speaker 5>casked some guys, what's the agent guy that we had

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<v Speaker 5>created created like this metal thing. This was before you know,

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<v Speaker 5>all the technology we have now. It looks just like

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<v Speaker 5>the mold of the.

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<v Speaker 6>Two things set it up in lighting. That was that's

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<v Speaker 6>an actual picture that that new album coming. They different

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<v Speaker 6>angle and.

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<v Speaker 5>Made it look the way that it look and the

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<v Speaker 5>label we were we were at a somebody's beach house,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, meeting with all the heads of Motown because

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<v Speaker 5>this is you know, we were the big group at

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<v Speaker 5>the time, so everybody was talking, you know, wanted to

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<v Speaker 5>hear our ideas, and they fought us, right, no, your

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<v Speaker 5>face has.

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<v Speaker 6>Got to be on the record. Your face got to

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<v Speaker 6>be on the record.

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<v Speaker 5>When they finally saw it and we put it out,

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<v Speaker 5>we saw a paper newspaper article when the album came

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<v Speaker 5>out and it reached a certain level and the label

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<v Speaker 5>was like, yeah, we came up with the idea.

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<v Speaker 6>We didn't want to their faces on the album.

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<v Speaker 1>It was this Herald era or Busby Nah.

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<v Speaker 4>This was before hell, this was before heral. But what's

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<v Speaker 4>funny was that this was during the long CD box

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<v Speaker 4>where it stuck down and the till then and the

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<v Speaker 4>picture was up top. So that's why they were fighting

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<v Speaker 4>because they wanted the faces to be up top. But

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<v Speaker 4>when Wine came up with the idea, I literally remember

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<v Speaker 4>him saying, it's got to look it's got to look

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<v Speaker 4>like the Batman's it's got to look like something that's

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<v Speaker 4>got that. And we fell in love with that idea

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<v Speaker 4>of it, and we tried to take that idea to

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<v Speaker 4>the label, but again they were stuck on we got

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<v Speaker 4>to put.

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<v Speaker 8>Your facers on it.

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<v Speaker 4>And I don't think that they realized even after eight

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<v Speaker 4>or nine million records, how strong the name of the

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<v Speaker 4>group was.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow man, One day, I want to ask you real quick,

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<v Speaker 1>broken hearted man.

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<v Speaker 13>You know, during the time of Broken Hearted, Brandy was

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<v Speaker 13>just coming out. She just had I want to be

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<v Speaker 13>down and I really thought that she she was just

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<v Speaker 13>like a good thing. I knew that she had something

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<v Speaker 13>that I hadn't heard all time, you know, vocally, and

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<v Speaker 13>you know, I contacted her mom and we were all

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<v Speaker 13>talking and saying, Yo, this girl, she's crazy.

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<v Speaker 9>I would love to, you know, you know, do some

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<v Speaker 9>music with her whatnot.

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<v Speaker 13>This is before anything ever transpired relationship wise, and her

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<v Speaker 13>mom agreed, you know, and you know, we all met up.

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<v Speaker 13>I met I went actually went to Carson, which is

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<v Speaker 13>in California.

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<v Speaker 9>Like it was like the hood, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 13>And I hung out like literally all day her her

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<v Speaker 13>boyfriend and ray J when he was little, you know,

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<v Speaker 13>the mom and dad. You know, I have my security

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<v Speaker 13>with me, you know what I'm saying. You know, I

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<v Speaker 13>went down and we hung out and we just ran

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<v Speaker 13>sang rifts and stuff, all of you know, just copying

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<v Speaker 13>each other's ribs. I was pretty pretty young, but not

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<v Speaker 13>that young. And as time progressed, she became like my

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<v Speaker 13>little you know, my little sidekick, you know, like we

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<v Speaker 13>would actually just literally hang out. And as time progressed,

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<v Speaker 13>you know, hanging out so much, you began to catch feelings,

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<v Speaker 13>you know what I'm saying, And it was really innocent feelings,

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<v Speaker 13>really innocent feelings. And you know, fans, by that, she

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<v Speaker 13>started getting older, you know, she started coming into anyway,

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<v Speaker 13>she started, she started coming into her womanhood. And I

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<v Speaker 13>was getting older, man. You know, people we get older closer,

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<v Speaker 13>and that's what happened. And during that time, we did

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<v Speaker 13>used to be in the studio all the time. You know,

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<v Speaker 13>I actually was the one that got her on the

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<v Speaker 13>boys to mentor. I'm the one that actually introduced her

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<v Speaker 13>to the Moesha people. My management manager was Quadri was actually,

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<v Speaker 13>you know, trying to find something for boys to men

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<v Speaker 13>to do. And I said, look, we got Brandy down

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<v Speaker 13>the hallway and she used to be on THEA. You

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<v Speaker 13>know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 9>So they they met up with her mom. You know

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<v Speaker 9>what I mean. I'm the one that hooked her to

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<v Speaker 9>go hooked her up to go on prolem with with Kobee.

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<v Speaker 11>Literally, I did you the reason my girlfriend Johnson stood

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<v Speaker 11>the prime.

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<v Speaker 9>The crazy thing is I wrote Me and my Mom

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<v Speaker 9>wrote the Moesia soundtrack, the Mosha song Me and my Mom,

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<v Speaker 9>you know what I'm saying. So it's like it was

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<v Speaker 9>really publishing them because you know that was my girlfriend

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<v Speaker 9>at the time. They act like I had nothing to

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<v Speaker 9>do with it.

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<v Speaker 11>On Netflix.

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<v Speaker 13>Man, I know, right, but but you know, broken Hearted

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<v Speaker 13>was one of the songs that came out of that.

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<v Speaker 13>The song broken Hearted was already on her album and

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<v Speaker 13>I was like, Yo, we should do a duet. We

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<v Speaker 13>should turn that you on the flip of around and

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<v Speaker 13>just make it a duet, and her mom agreed. Everybody agreed.

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<v Speaker 13>They produced the record and boom we did Broken Hearted

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<v Speaker 13>and we didn't even think it was going to be big,

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<v Speaker 13>but we just knew it was a good song.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it was a great song man.

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<v Speaker 13>Yeah, so you know it was it was a time

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<v Speaker 13>in our lives when we were really young, you know

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<v Speaker 13>what I mean. Of course, people getting relationships and they

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<v Speaker 13>get out of relationship.

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<v Speaker 6>Everybody acts like it's so.

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<v Speaker 13>Harsh of the situation that people break up all the time,

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<v Speaker 13>you know, especially as young as we.

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<v Speaker 11>And we was asking you about the music. Why you

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<v Speaker 11>ain't thank you?

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate you going there.

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<v Speaker 10>This my man, this is my man show, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 10>you know, Oh, I just had one, uh one of

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<v Speaker 10>my deep cut questions on the Evolution album. There was

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<v Speaker 10>a record it was deep in the record and I

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<v Speaker 10>loved it. It was never single, nothing to the limit, man,

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<v Speaker 10>I love that record. What was the if you remember,

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<v Speaker 10>like what was this? Y?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? What was the story behind that?

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<v Speaker 13>One?

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<v Speaker 12>Man?

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<v Speaker 5>So many songs that I personally enjoyed that would never

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<v Speaker 5>sing and they could have been just as viable as

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<v Speaker 5>anything else. But again, it's it's amazing when people's attention

0:19:59.600 --> 0:20:02.600
<v Speaker 5>span turned somewhere else. It doesn't matter how good your

0:20:02.640 --> 0:20:05.320
<v Speaker 5>record is. It doesn't matter how good you are. If

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<v Speaker 5>people are done with you, they've done with you.

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<v Speaker 7>But to the limit is.

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<v Speaker 6>It was one of those records. It's funny because I

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<v Speaker 6>started writing.

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<v Speaker 5>I started writing that record in Jersey, presented most of

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<v Speaker 5>it to the guys, and they wrote the dress you

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<v Speaker 5>know what I'm saying, and and and it was just

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<v Speaker 5>a vibe. The track was made by Puffy producers, and

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<v Speaker 5>we wanted to do something that was sensual and and

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<v Speaker 5>and accommodated to two women. You understood that, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>the ladies were predominant, you know, demographic, So we wanted

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<v Speaker 5>to create a a a scenario where we were kind

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<v Speaker 5>of there everything you know what I'm saying, like and

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<v Speaker 5>having that massage day with your guy, which was us

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<v Speaker 5>you know what I'm saying, And that pretty much was it.

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<v Speaker 6>That was that was a spa day for our for our.

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<v Speaker 5>Significant others, you know what I'm saying, and and and

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<v Speaker 5>doing everything that that every woman would would dream of

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<v Speaker 5>their man doing.

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<v Speaker 6>And that's pretty much it.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a great song.

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<v Speaker 3>Man.

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<v Speaker 1>I love I love that song.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that record.

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<v Speaker 8>I figure I mean to.

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<v Speaker 1>Wine, it's the harmony.

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<v Speaker 11>Wine is let us see the bottle because we get here, Yes,

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<v Speaker 11>y'all gonna keep me here. I'm let me see that.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go.

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<v Speaker 11>What y'all do is what is that you got there?

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<v Speaker 4>Rose?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that harmony wine?

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<v Speaker 7>We got got shoulder. There's a Grammy wine whatever you need.

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<v Speaker 8>We got red.

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<v Speaker 7>We got got Grammy some wine.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, it's just called red.

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<v Speaker 6>That's what does And I know you're a food kind

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<v Speaker 6>of sore, but you know, wine got to be in

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<v Speaker 6>the mix somewhere with that.

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<v Speaker 9>All right?

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<v Speaker 1>Correct? What did you guys get in too? When did

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<v Speaker 1>when did you guys step into uh find spirits so

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<v Speaker 1>to speak?

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<v Speaker 8>This was years and this is called harmony.

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<v Speaker 6>Correct, it's called harmony.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, hey, help you out little bit.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>They're all boys, they're all Bordeaus. They they were grown

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<v Speaker 6>in a chateau a goose, which is this placed all

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<v Speaker 6>the way in you know, France or whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>And all the way yea, all the way and like

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<v Speaker 4>deep deep it's not like a four year old all

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<v Speaker 4>the way all.

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<v Speaker 5>The way to France. That's that's my trump vernacular. And

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<v Speaker 5>you know, basically and uh basically you know this this

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<v Speaker 5>was something that we we've been experimenting and trying to

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<v Speaker 5>get into for years, but we never really found the

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<v Speaker 5>right people to get involved with business wise.

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<v Speaker 6>But we found the folks who found the guys. And

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<v Speaker 6>again there's three wines. It's a Bordeaux Blanc, it's a

0:22:56.200 --> 0:23:01.480
<v Speaker 6>Bordeaux Rose, and it's a Bordeaux red or rouge as

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<v Speaker 6>they call it.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know it's it's an affordable yet very tasty,

0:23:09.640 --> 0:23:14.240
<v Speaker 5>uh multi pallided wine like it's it's it has such

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<v Speaker 5>a great flavor, all of them.

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<v Speaker 6>Like I don't want to say I could commercial, and

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<v Speaker 6>I don't want to sound like you know.

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<v Speaker 9>You got me.

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<v Speaker 13>So you know the crazy thing is is I know

0:23:22.520 --> 0:23:26.240
<v Speaker 13>you appreciate you appreciate this air. The way that they

0:23:26.880 --> 0:23:29.679
<v Speaker 13>grow the grapes, you know where they grow up. They

0:23:29.760 --> 0:23:31.520
<v Speaker 13>play our music to the grapes.

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<v Speaker 3>You keep better.

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<v Speaker 11>Stop they want you better?

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<v Speaker 8>Right people?

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<v Speaker 4>That scientific word for it that we can't remember. You

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<v Speaker 4>know that you know that it helps you know that

0:23:45.600 --> 0:23:48.119
<v Speaker 4>fight off, helps them fight off a lot of different

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<v Speaker 4>infections and things.

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<v Speaker 2>Like that is literally, Yes, I've heard of this before

0:23:52.320 --> 0:23:56.359
<v Speaker 2>where people use music to grow. Yeah, they've done to research.

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<v Speaker 11>So that's the selling point right there, y'all.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, But so we can we can also do some

0:24:03.119 --> 0:24:06.200
<v Speaker 4>some Joey Francesco, some roots records, some Chris McBride. We

0:24:06.240 --> 0:24:08.040
<v Speaker 4>can play that for the grapes too. We just started,

0:24:08.320 --> 0:24:10.160
<v Speaker 4>you know, like a jazz barn harmony.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 5>All the grapes are organically grown because it's better resistant

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<v Speaker 5>to pesticides and disease and all the other stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>So I said that, Okay, So we wanted to make

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<v Speaker 3>I love y'all believe you.

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<v Speaker 6>Wanted to make sure that that the grapes, just like us,

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<v Speaker 6>was organic.

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<v Speaker 1>Got some two product. I had to pull up, some

0:24:32.480 --> 0:24:41.320
<v Speaker 1>apple crown, some peanut butter whiskey.

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<v Speaker 11>This is like the first product that y'all have like

0:24:45.359 --> 0:24:47.159
<v Speaker 11>put out in your career, right am. I?

0:24:48.520 --> 0:24:51.159
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, it really, it really really is.

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<v Speaker 4>And we we talk about that, and the question has

0:24:53.880 --> 0:24:56.960
<v Speaker 4>been asked and one of the things is that we've

0:24:57.080 --> 0:24:59.080
<v Speaker 4>never been the type of group to do the so

0:24:59.280 --> 0:25:02.840
<v Speaker 4>called indoors. This is something that we really really believe

0:25:03.040 --> 0:25:05.639
<v Speaker 4>that it's a part of our lifestyle. Who we are,

0:25:05.840 --> 0:25:08.560
<v Speaker 4>something we can represent, something that we can do, and

0:25:08.880 --> 0:25:11.320
<v Speaker 4>we're just not good at faking it, you know what

0:25:11.359 --> 0:25:11.720
<v Speaker 4>I'm saying.

0:25:11.840 --> 0:25:12.199
<v Speaker 8>So this.

0:25:14.240 --> 0:25:17.000
<v Speaker 3>That you know, being you know, being older, you know

0:25:17.160 --> 0:25:18.560
<v Speaker 3>men now, and you know, being.

0:25:18.440 --> 0:25:20.840
<v Speaker 4>Able to you know, drink a glass of wine and

0:25:20.920 --> 0:25:24.480
<v Speaker 4>relax and chill and be a part of friends, family, harmony, music,

0:25:24.600 --> 0:25:26.919
<v Speaker 4>the sounds of different type of blends and different grapes.

0:25:27.080 --> 0:25:29.840
<v Speaker 4>All of it encompasses who we are and where we

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<v Speaker 4>are at this point in our life.

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<v Speaker 8>So here, here, you're here, all right?

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<v Speaker 2>My last question, have you guys been when's the last

0:25:45.160 --> 0:25:48.040
<v Speaker 2>time you've been? Have you been to the Broad Street

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<v Speaker 2>Creative and Performing Arts?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes?

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<v Speaker 9>At all? Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Were you angry at how immaculate and clean?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes?

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<v Speaker 8>From there?

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<v Speaker 3>Let me go you.

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<v Speaker 1>I was mad as let me get Let me give

0:26:03.680 --> 0:26:06.680
<v Speaker 1>a little insight. It's like it was like a comminium.

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<v Speaker 4>Like so when mister King passed away and they and

0:26:09.560 --> 0:26:12.200
<v Speaker 4>they had a new music teacher. The music teacher there

0:26:12.960 --> 0:26:15.679
<v Speaker 4>was my original music teacher when I was in the seventh,

0:26:15.760 --> 0:26:18.240
<v Speaker 4>eighth and ninth, sixth, seventh eighth grade. They brought her

0:26:18.280 --> 0:26:21.080
<v Speaker 4>from Meredith. So I spent a lot of time of them.

0:26:21.160 --> 0:26:24.280
<v Speaker 4>My son went to this school. So I'm sitting in there.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean it looks like a college. And yeah, the

0:26:29.920 --> 0:26:32.440
<v Speaker 4>fact that we fought the Columbians, you know what I'm saying.

0:26:33.680 --> 0:26:37.760
<v Speaker 3>You know, we didn't really have our own space in

0:26:37.840 --> 0:26:38.920
<v Speaker 3>certain classrooms.

0:26:40.800 --> 0:26:43.520
<v Speaker 4>Hats in the ceiling, basketball on the roof with the

0:26:43.600 --> 0:26:45.440
<v Speaker 4>gates trying to make sure you don't jump off that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was very, very fucking frustrating.

0:26:49.359 --> 0:26:52.040
<v Speaker 2>But I was about to say, like, the acoustics of

0:26:52.119 --> 0:26:56.480
<v Speaker 2>that bath y'all used to that urine infested bathroom on

0:26:56.560 --> 0:26:58.719
<v Speaker 2>the fourth floor, that's where y'are honed.

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<v Speaker 7>That's a plug.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you do you feel like it's not unless there's

0:27:06.480 --> 0:27:07.680
<v Speaker 1>no year inside.

0:27:08.520 --> 0:27:11.800
<v Speaker 8>Yes, you had to use dying for I'm like, how.

0:27:11.720 --> 0:27:15.040
<v Speaker 12>Do y'all not expect this after the school has produced

0:27:15.440 --> 0:27:19.080
<v Speaker 12>the roots Christian McBride boys and men, Like, isn't this

0:27:19.200 --> 0:27:20.880
<v Speaker 12>the natural eleence that I'm.

0:27:20.720 --> 0:27:24.119
<v Speaker 2>Glad that they had Enron, I'm glad they had a

0:27:24.160 --> 0:27:26.760
<v Speaker 2>safe environment. But when I came, I went back. I

0:27:26.840 --> 0:27:29.600
<v Speaker 2>went back there with Tariq a year and a half ago,

0:27:31.000 --> 0:27:35.240
<v Speaker 2>and it was I was like, I could see my

0:27:35.400 --> 0:27:36.560
<v Speaker 2>reflection on the floor.

0:27:40.480 --> 0:27:40.879
<v Speaker 8>I'll tell you.

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<v Speaker 4>The only thing that makes me feel good about it

0:27:43.640 --> 0:27:45.920
<v Speaker 4>was the fact that one day I went back and

0:27:46.040 --> 0:27:48.520
<v Speaker 4>I was driving down the street and I say, you

0:27:48.600 --> 0:27:51.800
<v Speaker 4>know what, I know how to get there, but I'm

0:27:51.800 --> 0:27:52.880
<v Speaker 4>gonna use my navigation.

0:27:53.800 --> 0:27:56.960
<v Speaker 3>So I put in my navigation, drove up to the

0:27:57.040 --> 0:27:59.960
<v Speaker 3>corner and I'm just pausing. I'm waiting.

0:28:00.119 --> 0:28:01.920
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, all right, well, let me just get I

0:28:02.000 --> 0:28:04.280
<v Speaker 4>want to get up to the corner and turn and

0:28:04.440 --> 0:28:06.000
<v Speaker 4>see what my navigation says.

0:28:06.960 --> 0:28:09.120
<v Speaker 3>When that navigates, you said, boys boulevard.

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<v Speaker 4>Dude, Yes, now here's the thing. You know, people always

0:28:18.960 --> 0:28:21.520
<v Speaker 4>get the little hey, what's boulevard? And this is uh,

0:28:21.840 --> 0:28:25.160
<v Speaker 4>you know, everybody get the gradess name. But dude, when

0:28:25.160 --> 0:28:28.600
<v Speaker 4>it showed up in the navigation, that that's official.

0:28:28.880 --> 0:28:34.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, parkway is on there.

0:28:34.200 --> 0:28:38.960
<v Speaker 3>Yes, what I was like, Wow, you know what else?

0:28:39.080 --> 0:28:39.280
<v Speaker 9>Maybe?

0:28:39.480 --> 0:28:41.520
<v Speaker 13>You know what else made took away that jealousy a

0:28:41.560 --> 0:28:44.440
<v Speaker 13>little bit, Donnate, I ain't gonna lie. What took away

0:28:44.480 --> 0:28:46.680
<v Speaker 13>that jealousy a little bit is when I heard the

0:28:46.760 --> 0:28:50.240
<v Speaker 13>choir saying they did not sound as good or even.

0:28:57.240 --> 0:29:00.320
<v Speaker 9>That choir man. We were smashing them son.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 12>My last question, which is who was the most famous

0:29:06.200 --> 0:29:10.800
<v Speaker 12>graduate before the roots and Boyson men of Kappa like, we.

0:29:10.840 --> 0:29:15.240
<v Speaker 3>Had some actors, honestly, and to be and to be existed.

0:29:15.760 --> 0:29:18.920
<v Speaker 4>The school only existed I think six years before we

0:29:19.080 --> 0:29:21.240
<v Speaker 4>got there. It was a brand new idea.

0:29:22.280 --> 0:29:23.719
<v Speaker 8>Wow. The building.

0:29:24.040 --> 0:29:26.560
<v Speaker 4>The reason why we were interjacked up building was because

0:29:26.600 --> 0:29:30.240
<v Speaker 4>the original school was downtown and a building that was

0:29:30.280 --> 0:29:32.600
<v Speaker 4>just an idea they were trying to school, and then

0:29:32.640 --> 0:29:35.960
<v Speaker 4>it started to do well and they were like, yeah, streets,

0:29:36.480 --> 0:29:38.000
<v Speaker 4>to move it to another place and we'll turn it

0:29:38.040 --> 0:29:40.640
<v Speaker 4>into a school, and for now to just hang out

0:29:40.640 --> 0:29:41.360
<v Speaker 4>with the Columbians.

0:29:41.840 --> 0:29:43.400
<v Speaker 3>We did make the Plumbians famous, you know that.

0:29:47.160 --> 0:29:48.160
<v Speaker 9>They haven't like.

0:29:48.200 --> 0:29:48.880
<v Speaker 6>It's a country.

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<v Speaker 8>Uh what's your name?

0:29:54.520 --> 0:29:54.880
<v Speaker 9>Went there?

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<v Speaker 12>Uh?

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<v Speaker 8>Oh yeah?

0:29:59.400 --> 0:30:09.320
<v Speaker 1>Uh remember not but her girlfriend that cousin, Pam, the

0:30:09.400 --> 0:30:15.160
<v Speaker 1>one wanted to know not cousin, sirmon yeaes sir mean

0:30:15.880 --> 0:30:16.800
<v Speaker 1>she she was.

0:30:17.000 --> 0:30:19.920
<v Speaker 3>It was seemed more as an acting school before we

0:30:20.120 --> 0:30:20.520
<v Speaker 3>got over.

0:30:22.080 --> 0:30:22.719
<v Speaker 1>And what's his name?

0:30:22.840 --> 0:30:24.920
<v Speaker 8>Who was saying? Uh?

0:30:25.880 --> 0:30:26.720
<v Speaker 1>I said black?

0:30:27.360 --> 0:30:28.600
<v Speaker 4>Get his name black?

0:30:30.880 --> 0:30:33.400
<v Speaker 1>I was friends with spoonsy ray j.

0:30:34.040 --> 0:30:39.440
<v Speaker 9>I say mine, yes, right, that's right.

0:30:40.400 --> 0:30:45.080
<v Speaker 2>Heel not DeAndre No no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

0:30:46.000 --> 0:30:47.280
<v Speaker 2>you're thinking husband.

0:30:47.360 --> 0:30:47.880
<v Speaker 9>That's Roger.

0:30:48.720 --> 0:30:49.280
<v Speaker 8>I can't remember.

0:30:50.880 --> 0:30:53.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, DeAndre with he's married to.

0:30:54.600 --> 0:30:55.080
<v Speaker 7>Saturdays.

0:30:55.880 --> 0:30:59.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh boy, all right, I want her after something

0:30:59.160 --> 0:31:00.840
<v Speaker 1>because losing his patients.

0:31:00.920 --> 0:31:03.000
<v Speaker 4>Actually I'm drunk now, I'm good.

0:31:05.480 --> 0:31:06.040
<v Speaker 8>I got one.

0:31:09.040 --> 0:31:11.120
<v Speaker 1>Nerds on the Yeah. Now this is music.

0:31:11.160 --> 0:31:14.840
<v Speaker 10>Now, y'all boys done, y'all with the right ones. Drink

0:31:15.480 --> 0:31:18.080
<v Speaker 10>all right, So all right, so so wyya. So I've

0:31:18.120 --> 0:31:20.960
<v Speaker 10>always heard, like you know, a lot of vocal teachers

0:31:21.080 --> 0:31:23.960
<v Speaker 10>and like vocal professors, they always say, well, you know,

0:31:24.000 --> 0:31:26.840
<v Speaker 10>you shouldn't stretch your neck when you move or when

0:31:26.840 --> 0:31:28.600
<v Speaker 10>you're sing, you shouldn't you know, move your net.

0:31:28.960 --> 0:31:31.880
<v Speaker 1>But being a diciple.

0:31:32.200 --> 0:31:38.920
<v Speaker 10>Listening, like you're the most like we know, the Yanye movement.

0:31:39.280 --> 0:31:41.880
<v Speaker 10>So I want to know, was that something that you

0:31:42.080 --> 0:31:45.000
<v Speaker 10>got kind of like bounced back from from vocal teachers

0:31:45.120 --> 0:31:47.440
<v Speaker 10>or was that just something that you just did because

0:31:47.480 --> 0:31:50.960
<v Speaker 10>you have the most distinctive like head and neck movements.

0:31:57.080 --> 0:32:00.560
<v Speaker 13>It was Honestly, I never got any blowback from any

0:32:00.600 --> 0:32:04.560
<v Speaker 13>of the any of the like the vocal coaches or teachers,

0:32:04.560 --> 0:32:07.280
<v Speaker 13>because we didn't really have vocal coaches teachers, you know,

0:32:08.480 --> 0:32:09.120
<v Speaker 13>like if we're.

0:32:08.960 --> 0:32:11.400
<v Speaker 9>Saying choir, of course, I couldn't not even Dumpson you

0:32:11.480 --> 0:32:15.200
<v Speaker 9>know what I'm saying. I would have uh you know

0:32:15.240 --> 0:32:15.720
<v Speaker 9>what I'm saying.

0:32:17.200 --> 0:32:19.680
<v Speaker 8>I wouldn't. I went I went to Dumpson fan because

0:32:19.760 --> 0:32:20.400
<v Speaker 8>that's that's them.

0:32:20.480 --> 0:32:23.240
<v Speaker 9>Dude, he ain't like me, you know what I'm saying.

0:32:24.280 --> 0:32:28.000
<v Speaker 2>They would I saw Dumpson in and Miss Davis at

0:32:28.080 --> 0:32:30.280
<v Speaker 2>this Uh Miss Davis is still there.

0:32:31.040 --> 0:32:33.200
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, one hundred years old. Yeah, one hundred years old.

0:32:33.520 --> 0:32:34.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she's still hanging on.

0:32:34.800 --> 0:32:35.000
<v Speaker 3>Boy.

0:32:35.200 --> 0:32:42.280
<v Speaker 9>Yeah here honestly is it's it's just a dynamic thing.

0:32:42.320 --> 0:32:44.320
<v Speaker 13>I mean, of course I can do that without my neck,

0:32:44.400 --> 0:32:48.240
<v Speaker 13>but I feel like it gives me a better, I guess,

0:32:48.280 --> 0:32:50.400
<v Speaker 13>a better movement, you know what I'm saying.

0:32:50.440 --> 0:32:53.160
<v Speaker 9>You know, sometimes you see somebody playing the saxophone, and

0:32:54.760 --> 0:32:56.320
<v Speaker 9>you know what I'm saying. They're doing that because it

0:32:56.440 --> 0:32:57.280
<v Speaker 9>gives them more.

0:32:57.120 --> 0:32:59.160
<v Speaker 3>Of a you know what I mean, of of of

0:32:59.720 --> 0:33:01.720
<v Speaker 3>a you get to sing it, but he wants to

0:33:01.800 --> 0:33:02.800
<v Speaker 3>feel it when he sings it.

0:33:03.200 --> 0:33:05.520
<v Speaker 14>Yeah, but how much your how much your vibrato comes

0:33:05.520 --> 0:33:09.320
<v Speaker 14>from your neck versus like how much comes from your diaphragm? Well, no,

0:33:09.440 --> 0:33:12.920
<v Speaker 14>I mean like like there's different comes from from this

0:33:13.360 --> 0:33:16.520
<v Speaker 14>like within, yes, chesty, you know what I mean. So

0:33:16.840 --> 0:33:21.360
<v Speaker 14>I kind of it depends on what I'm singing, because sometimes.

0:33:20.960 --> 0:33:24.040
<v Speaker 13>I move it from my throat tom or I move

0:33:24.080 --> 0:33:25.360
<v Speaker 13>from a diaphragm to my chest.

0:33:25.400 --> 0:33:26.040
<v Speaker 9>You know what I'm saying.

0:33:26.240 --> 0:33:28.880
<v Speaker 13>It depends on what I'm the tone that I'm trying

0:33:28.960 --> 0:33:30.640
<v Speaker 13>to get out, you know what I mean a lot

0:33:30.680 --> 0:33:33.640
<v Speaker 13>of times you guys hear the ending of a song,

0:33:33.760 --> 0:33:37.400
<v Speaker 13>it takes it's more of a chesty head type, you

0:33:37.480 --> 0:33:40.240
<v Speaker 13>know what I mean, dynamic because it's the power. You

0:33:40.320 --> 0:33:42.520
<v Speaker 13>know what I'm saying. It's where you know, the power

0:33:42.640 --> 0:33:44.400
<v Speaker 13>comes from. And if I got to hold the long note,

0:33:44.440 --> 0:33:46.040
<v Speaker 13>that's when I switch it to my diaphragm.

0:33:46.160 --> 0:33:46.720
<v Speaker 9>You know what I mean.

0:33:47.400 --> 0:33:48.560
<v Speaker 3>But to you another one.

0:33:48.680 --> 0:33:51.120
<v Speaker 4>This guy didn't learn how to sing false settle until

0:33:51.400 --> 0:33:53.360
<v Speaker 4>almost four or five six years end of his.

0:33:53.440 --> 0:33:58.600
<v Speaker 3>Voice I had, I had zero fallse setup.

0:33:58.680 --> 0:34:02.600
<v Speaker 9>So I literally I literally started trying.

0:34:02.960 --> 0:34:06.080
<v Speaker 13>I literally became like a student of my own voice,

0:34:06.480 --> 0:34:08.440
<v Speaker 13>you know what I'm saying. So I know where certain

0:34:08.480 --> 0:34:11.560
<v Speaker 13>pieces of my voice take me. I could sing it

0:34:12.160 --> 0:34:15.120
<v Speaker 13>in many different ways, but I also know what the

0:34:15.440 --> 0:34:16.400
<v Speaker 13>audience calls for.

0:34:16.920 --> 0:34:19.560
<v Speaker 7>And my how do you find that? How do you

0:34:19.600 --> 0:34:21.800
<v Speaker 7>find the right way to sing the right thing? What

0:34:21.960 --> 0:34:22.200
<v Speaker 7>is its?

0:34:22.320 --> 0:34:29.000
<v Speaker 13>Just like Nate said, I just sing. I literally just sing.

0:34:29.200 --> 0:34:31.839
<v Speaker 13>I mean, I don't have to be doing shit. I'll

0:34:31.880 --> 0:34:34.560
<v Speaker 13>be in the house and I hear like an acoustic

0:34:34.680 --> 0:34:37.759
<v Speaker 13>and I'll just I'll sing and then I'll figure something out.

0:34:37.800 --> 0:34:39.759
<v Speaker 13>And then once I figure it out, I'll practice that

0:34:39.880 --> 0:34:42.440
<v Speaker 13>over and over again. Because I always believe that I

0:34:42.600 --> 0:34:45.560
<v Speaker 13>can be better. I never feel like, you know, like

0:34:45.600 --> 0:34:47.960
<v Speaker 13>people say, oh my god, you're the best. No, I'm

0:34:48.040 --> 0:34:50.520
<v Speaker 13>striving to get better and better every day because if

0:34:50.520 --> 0:34:52.680
<v Speaker 13>you're the best, you can't grow anymore, you know what

0:34:52.760 --> 0:34:56.479
<v Speaker 13>I'm saying. So I want to be better and better

0:34:56.680 --> 0:35:00.400
<v Speaker 13>with with whatever style I choose to sing, because I

0:35:00.480 --> 0:35:03.000
<v Speaker 13>know that there's going to be multi fast, fastness of

0:35:03.120 --> 0:35:04.600
<v Speaker 13>style styles.

0:35:04.320 --> 0:35:05.799
<v Speaker 9>That I'm going to need to, you know what I mean,

0:35:05.880 --> 0:35:07.520
<v Speaker 9>sing in order to be an artist.

0:35:07.640 --> 0:35:10.680
<v Speaker 10>You know, is there a particular music just as as

0:35:10.760 --> 0:35:12.440
<v Speaker 10>long as you guys have been doing and just as

0:35:12.560 --> 0:35:15.040
<v Speaker 10>season of singers as you are, is there still a

0:35:15.160 --> 0:35:18.880
<v Speaker 10>particular style of music that gives you more trouble than

0:35:18.960 --> 0:35:22.680
<v Speaker 10>the other, like like jazz versus gospel versus classical, or

0:35:23.200 --> 0:35:26.160
<v Speaker 10>you know, is there we are? What what's still a

0:35:26.280 --> 0:35:26.719
<v Speaker 10>challenge to you?

0:35:27.080 --> 0:35:27.279
<v Speaker 7>Yeah?

0:35:27.719 --> 0:35:29.480
<v Speaker 9>We we we we we are.

0:35:29.800 --> 0:35:32.920
<v Speaker 13>Like I said, Uh, Sean to me is h he

0:35:33.080 --> 0:35:37.160
<v Speaker 13>has a really good jazz ear. So when it comes

0:35:37.200 --> 0:35:40.239
<v Speaker 13>to something like that, I always look to Sean to

0:35:40.320 --> 0:35:42.960
<v Speaker 13>start it. Now, I know what it's supposed to sound like,

0:35:43.480 --> 0:35:46.240
<v Speaker 13>but I know when Sean starts it, I know where's

0:35:46.239 --> 0:35:48.200
<v Speaker 13>supposed to go. So once he starts it, I know

0:35:48.320 --> 0:35:49.840
<v Speaker 13>where I fit in, you know what I'm saying, So

0:35:50.520 --> 0:35:51.600
<v Speaker 13>there's no hiccup there.

0:35:51.960 --> 0:35:54.000
<v Speaker 9>Same with Nate. Nate has a great jazz here.

0:35:54.080 --> 0:35:58.880
<v Speaker 13>Nate's like his musical roundnesses is just like fucking crazy

0:35:58.960 --> 0:36:02.480
<v Speaker 13>to me. But when he starts something, we all know

0:36:02.680 --> 0:36:05.000
<v Speaker 13>exactly where it goes. So it can be a jazz

0:36:05.080 --> 0:36:08.360
<v Speaker 13>song or it can be like like, uh, like Ribbon's

0:36:08.360 --> 0:36:10.279
<v Speaker 13>in the Sky, you know, you know what I mean?

0:36:10.440 --> 0:36:14.440
<v Speaker 13>That a cappella version that's jazzy and R and B is.

0:36:14.520 --> 0:36:17.360
<v Speaker 13>It's a lot of different facets. So when it comes

0:36:17.440 --> 0:36:19.320
<v Speaker 13>to oh yeah, I'm not sure if y'all heard that

0:36:19.400 --> 0:36:20.960
<v Speaker 13>record record.

0:36:20.840 --> 0:36:23.279
<v Speaker 9>When it comes when it comes to that, we all,

0:36:24.280 --> 0:36:27.160
<v Speaker 9>I guess, give enough of a strength to not make

0:36:27.200 --> 0:36:28.759
<v Speaker 9>it a hurdle, you know what I mean.

0:36:29.640 --> 0:36:33.080
<v Speaker 4>I understand there's no knowing you're comfort You're not in

0:36:33.160 --> 0:36:35.800
<v Speaker 4>so much a comfort zone, but knowing we all know

0:36:35.960 --> 0:36:38.840
<v Speaker 4>that when someone sings apart, we know if that's the

0:36:38.920 --> 0:36:41.040
<v Speaker 4>part they should sing. Like there are times when we'll

0:36:41.560 --> 0:36:45.160
<v Speaker 4>we'll sing something and we'll be like, nah, I think

0:36:45.280 --> 0:36:46.880
<v Speaker 4>Sean should sing it because he's got a.

0:36:46.880 --> 0:36:48.160
<v Speaker 3>Little bit more of this or whatever.

0:36:48.440 --> 0:36:51.000
<v Speaker 4>And we know that you know what I'm saying, and

0:36:51.360 --> 0:36:53.680
<v Speaker 4>we we tend to know when to fall in or

0:36:53.680 --> 0:36:56.280
<v Speaker 4>a guy somebody, perfect example, will come to the studio.

0:36:56.280 --> 0:36:58.120
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, yeah, well I want to want to say

0:36:58.160 --> 0:37:00.920
<v Speaker 4>this and why Like no, what I think should probably

0:37:01.000 --> 0:37:04.000
<v Speaker 4>do this part? Because we all know each other's voices,

0:37:04.080 --> 0:37:06.640
<v Speaker 4>so whenever we hear anything that anybody brings.

0:37:06.480 --> 0:37:09.040
<v Speaker 3>Us, we know who should sing what and where and

0:37:09.120 --> 0:37:09.800
<v Speaker 3>where it should go.

0:37:10.880 --> 0:37:13.520
<v Speaker 7>So what's technically what's the warm up game?

0:37:13.680 --> 0:37:13.719
<v Speaker 4>Like?

0:37:13.840 --> 0:37:14.919
<v Speaker 7>Like how does how does that work?

0:37:15.160 --> 0:37:15.400
<v Speaker 1>As in?

0:37:15.520 --> 0:37:18.040
<v Speaker 14>Like I once talk to Christian McBride and he said

0:37:18.080 --> 0:37:20.799
<v Speaker 14>that he he warmed up, he practiced for the ten

0:37:21.000 --> 0:37:23.200
<v Speaker 14>to ten minutes before the gig and that was it.

0:37:23.640 --> 0:37:25.360
<v Speaker 14>And I assume that with you guys, it's way different

0:37:25.400 --> 0:37:30.040
<v Speaker 14>than that. Like I'm sure seth Riggs or that I

0:37:30.080 --> 0:37:31.640
<v Speaker 14>don't know. I don't warm up at all.

0:37:32.600 --> 0:37:35.400
<v Speaker 1>Love to you ya, wow, just walk in.

0:37:37.800 --> 0:37:39.360
<v Speaker 8>I don't just when I wake up.

0:37:39.400 --> 0:37:41.640
<v Speaker 9>When I wake up in the morning, I see when

0:37:41.640 --> 0:37:43.000
<v Speaker 9>I wake up in the morning and I know I

0:37:43.080 --> 0:37:43.520
<v Speaker 9>have a show.

0:37:43.640 --> 0:37:46.040
<v Speaker 13>I sing the highest note that I'm going to sing

0:37:46.640 --> 0:37:49.160
<v Speaker 13>on the show, and if it comes out clear, I

0:37:49.239 --> 0:37:49.719
<v Speaker 13>know I'm good.

0:37:49.840 --> 0:37:50.200
<v Speaker 3>You're good.

0:37:50.880 --> 0:37:51.680
<v Speaker 8>And another that's.

0:37:52.600 --> 0:37:55.640
<v Speaker 1>Those requirements like take the air conditioning off.

0:37:55.880 --> 0:37:56.600
<v Speaker 9>I don't sleep.

0:37:56.840 --> 0:38:00.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, we don't like air conditions and all that and.

0:38:01.960 --> 0:38:02.279
<v Speaker 6>The like.

0:38:04.880 --> 0:38:09.080
<v Speaker 8>Okay, Wine likes it blazing.

0:38:08.760 --> 0:38:11.080
<v Speaker 4>Hot and I like it more in the in the

0:38:11.239 --> 0:38:13.200
<v Speaker 4>middle kind of we don't like it cold, but we

0:38:13.239 --> 0:38:16.279
<v Speaker 4>don't like it steamy, like Wine are going to and

0:38:16.360 --> 0:38:17.560
<v Speaker 4>turn the shower on and steam.

0:38:17.600 --> 0:38:18.160
<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm saying.

0:38:18.239 --> 0:38:24.200
<v Speaker 7>But another reason why Vegas and Tampa just for the record, well, another.

0:38:24.040 --> 0:38:26.520
<v Speaker 4>Reason why I like to practice because I never really

0:38:26.640 --> 0:38:30.879
<v Speaker 4>know where I'm gonna end up depending on what we're

0:38:30.920 --> 0:38:32.160
<v Speaker 4>singing and what we're doing.

0:38:32.360 --> 0:38:32.880
<v Speaker 8>I don't know.

0:38:33.360 --> 0:38:35.799
<v Speaker 4>I know what parts I'm supposed to sing for each song,

0:38:36.400 --> 0:38:38.279
<v Speaker 4>but I don't know what I'm gonna I don't know

0:38:38.320 --> 0:38:40.120
<v Speaker 4>what I'm singing because I don't know where I'm gonna be.

0:38:40.880 --> 0:38:43.040
<v Speaker 5>So this is kind of like open and believe it

0:38:43.160 --> 0:38:47.200
<v Speaker 5>or not, Like sometimes that opens up for interesting things

0:38:47.239 --> 0:38:49.279
<v Speaker 5>to come out of your group. Mm hm, it's kind

0:38:49.320 --> 0:38:51.840
<v Speaker 5>of cool sometimes, like right now we're going through a

0:38:51.880 --> 0:38:54.279
<v Speaker 5>seasons change in LA. So my voice is a little

0:38:54.360 --> 0:38:57.760
<v Speaker 5>raspuler and if you're recording or if you're doing something,

0:38:57.840 --> 0:38:59.840
<v Speaker 5>sometimes that sounds cool, you know what I mean. We

0:39:00.040 --> 0:39:04.200
<v Speaker 5>forget that, Like our voices are instruments, and sometimes those

0:39:04.239 --> 0:39:09.160
<v Speaker 5>little like those quirks, those idiosyncrasies vocally could bring out

0:39:09.200 --> 0:39:12.839
<v Speaker 5>a texture that might resonate soulfully, you know what I'm saying,

0:39:12.920 --> 0:39:16.400
<v Speaker 5>because you might not feel as as clean or whatever,

0:39:16.840 --> 0:39:19.600
<v Speaker 5>but it has such a rasp and a ruggedness to it.

0:39:19.960 --> 0:39:21.960
<v Speaker 6>It makes you sing different, you know what I'm saying.

0:39:22.000 --> 0:39:24.840
<v Speaker 5>It's almost like a mayor when you play different drum skins,

0:39:25.120 --> 0:39:27.400
<v Speaker 5>you know what I'm saying, When you got like different snares, whatever.

0:39:27.560 --> 0:39:32.120
<v Speaker 5>It has different resonances, different sounds and textures and feels

0:39:32.120 --> 0:39:32.840
<v Speaker 5>when you strike it.

0:39:33.360 --> 0:39:36.440
<v Speaker 6>It's the same thing vocally with us, Like, yeah, we

0:39:36.640 --> 0:39:37.600
<v Speaker 6>want to sound good.

0:39:37.480 --> 0:39:41.440
<v Speaker 5>All the time, but you know, when it comes to weather,

0:39:41.680 --> 0:39:43.320
<v Speaker 5>when it comes to stuff like that, we just adapt

0:39:43.920 --> 0:39:46.400
<v Speaker 5>to what our voices are doing at that moment and

0:39:46.480 --> 0:39:47.239
<v Speaker 5>we just have that time.

0:39:48.400 --> 0:39:51.120
<v Speaker 4>And I always wish I had more power in the

0:39:51.239 --> 0:39:54.880
<v Speaker 4>tenor range, but I don't like I used to, you know,

0:39:54.960 --> 0:39:57.120
<v Speaker 4>I used to sit back and listen to Sean and

0:39:57.200 --> 0:39:59.800
<v Speaker 4>want to be like damn, I could sing it, but

0:40:00.200 --> 0:40:00.640
<v Speaker 4>just can't.

0:40:00.880 --> 0:40:03.040
<v Speaker 3>I can't. I don't have that light to it like

0:40:03.120 --> 0:40:03.920
<v Speaker 3>I just don't.

0:40:03.800 --> 0:40:06.319
<v Speaker 4>Have that that rip you know what I'm saying now

0:40:07.000 --> 0:40:10.759
<v Speaker 4>above them, I do, but in that it's like I

0:40:10.840 --> 0:40:13.800
<v Speaker 4>can sing it, but I just don't. I always wanted

0:40:13.840 --> 0:40:16.640
<v Speaker 4>to be that have that tenor guy that just could

0:40:16.760 --> 0:40:17.200
<v Speaker 4>just rip.

0:40:17.400 --> 0:40:19.400
<v Speaker 8>I just I just don't. I don't have that in it.

0:40:19.520 --> 0:40:20.040
<v Speaker 3>I don't have that.

0:40:20.960 --> 0:40:26.560
<v Speaker 14>Away voices does age voices because I was I saw

0:40:26.600 --> 0:40:29.040
<v Speaker 14>Billy Joel two years ago and he's playing things in

0:40:29.200 --> 0:40:31.920
<v Speaker 14>C but it sounds and be flat, like it's a

0:40:31.960 --> 0:40:34.000
<v Speaker 14>whole step down because his voice is down. Do you guys,

0:40:34.120 --> 0:40:34.799
<v Speaker 14>You guys don't have that.

0:40:37.200 --> 0:40:43.439
<v Speaker 3>Personally? Yeah, that's g I guess, because again I tend

0:40:43.480 --> 0:40:45.879
<v Speaker 3>to be all over the place. I don't key.

0:40:46.040 --> 0:40:48.360
<v Speaker 4>It doesn't really matter for the most part for me,

0:40:48.880 --> 0:40:51.960
<v Speaker 4>Like you change your drop no, let me rephrase that.

0:40:52.840 --> 0:40:55.080
<v Speaker 4>When you start to drop it lower, it affects me

0:40:55.200 --> 0:40:58.600
<v Speaker 4>one because of my my, my pitch, my the perfect

0:40:58.640 --> 0:41:00.600
<v Speaker 4>pitch thing. It irritates me because I know it's the

0:41:00.640 --> 0:41:03.640
<v Speaker 4>wrong kid. So I struggle to sing it in a

0:41:03.680 --> 0:41:04.200
<v Speaker 4>different kee.

0:41:04.840 --> 0:41:08.080
<v Speaker 8>And Manuan used to fight a lot because he can't sing.

0:41:08.160 --> 0:41:10.720
<v Speaker 4>I mean not that he can't, but because he sings

0:41:10.800 --> 0:41:14.920
<v Speaker 4>so many of those songs like every song is like every.

0:41:14.800 --> 0:41:17.440
<v Speaker 3>Song is way up in the stratosphere. Some of them

0:41:17.480 --> 0:41:20.239
<v Speaker 3>we have to adjust, and I'll be like, dude, you

0:41:20.400 --> 0:41:22.680
<v Speaker 3>really want to drop this, Dude, I can't, Like I

0:41:22.719 --> 0:41:24.120
<v Speaker 3>can't do eight of them in a row. I'm like,

0:41:28.560 --> 0:41:29.600
<v Speaker 3>we gotta fight with that.

0:41:29.800 --> 0:41:33.320
<v Speaker 4>But I mean it can become a struggle when again,

0:41:33.400 --> 0:41:36.200
<v Speaker 4>when you got that kind of fight with the way

0:41:36.320 --> 0:41:38.960
<v Speaker 4>his voice is, when you got to dig into a

0:41:39.040 --> 0:41:43.120
<v Speaker 4>song that way on every singles, I mean, if you

0:41:43.320 --> 0:41:45.880
<v Speaker 4>did a thirty minute Boys to Men said.

0:41:46.120 --> 0:41:50.960
<v Speaker 3>This, this clown sings into the role up there, I'll

0:41:51.000 --> 0:41:53.040
<v Speaker 3>make love to you up there there.

0:41:53.280 --> 0:41:58.200
<v Speaker 15>Ben died me up like everything he ends everything in

0:41:58.360 --> 0:42:01.360
<v Speaker 15>the sky so on, and may be like, well, you know,

0:42:01.480 --> 0:42:07.000
<v Speaker 15>it's just twenty minutes like Nigga's twenty minutes, twenty minutes,

0:42:07.880 --> 0:42:12.600
<v Speaker 15>twenty different, oh, saying that sometimes these songs won't make it.

0:42:13.480 --> 0:42:15.080
<v Speaker 9>Oh, and then I'll move down the.

0:42:17.280 --> 0:42:17.480
<v Speaker 8>Like that.

0:42:18.040 --> 0:42:21.200
<v Speaker 9>We have to do the hits, that's bottom line. We

0:42:21.320 --> 0:42:22.080
<v Speaker 9>have to do the hits.

0:42:22.200 --> 0:42:26.880
<v Speaker 13>But sometimes like there's some songs that aren't major hits

0:42:27.360 --> 0:42:34.640
<v Speaker 13>that I'm like, Nigga like color Color, but the.

0:42:34.680 --> 0:42:39.440
<v Speaker 1>Song right that that isn't rebody loves that record.

0:42:39.600 --> 0:42:40.640
<v Speaker 3>Everybody loves singing that.

0:42:40.800 --> 0:42:41.320
<v Speaker 1>We'll sing that.

0:42:41.600 --> 0:42:42.680
<v Speaker 8>That's the only one we had.

0:42:42.600 --> 0:42:44.000
<v Speaker 6>To sing every fucking day.

0:42:44.480 --> 0:42:47.560
<v Speaker 11>Every day, stand and ring in any show.

0:42:47.600 --> 0:42:48.640
<v Speaker 9>I was just do y'all do.

0:42:50.520 --> 0:42:53.920
<v Speaker 3>I will tell you that's one that we definitely need

0:42:54.000 --> 0:42:55.840
<v Speaker 3>our brother on. We need Mic on that record.

0:42:58.400 --> 0:42:59.680
<v Speaker 1>What's the status of y'all in Mike?

0:42:59.719 --> 0:42:59.839
<v Speaker 9>Now?

0:43:00.480 --> 0:43:01.440
<v Speaker 1>Things cool?

0:43:01.600 --> 0:43:02.200
<v Speaker 8>Is not cool?

0:43:02.280 --> 0:43:03.600
<v Speaker 1>Or you're speaking on it was?

0:43:03.719 --> 0:43:06.200
<v Speaker 4>I think I think we as a group, us three

0:43:06.400 --> 0:43:09.680
<v Speaker 4>are We're cool with where we are with Mike. We

0:43:10.000 --> 0:43:11.920
<v Speaker 4>just don't know where we are with Mike.

0:43:12.600 --> 0:43:14.720
<v Speaker 3>I'll leave it. I mean again, it's like we've.

0:43:14.600 --> 0:43:16.800
<v Speaker 4>Gone through a lot and do some bad things, some

0:43:16.920 --> 0:43:20.239
<v Speaker 4>good things. Is you know we love him, don't We

0:43:20.320 --> 0:43:22.920
<v Speaker 4>don't hate him. We don't wish any ill feel anything

0:43:22.960 --> 0:43:23.400
<v Speaker 4>about him.

0:43:23.440 --> 0:43:27.040
<v Speaker 3>But unfortunately we tried to bring him back a couple

0:43:27.080 --> 0:43:28.200
<v Speaker 3>of times, and you know, some of.

0:43:28.280 --> 0:43:30.759
<v Speaker 4>Our milestones where it was the twentieth album or you know,

0:43:30.840 --> 0:43:33.759
<v Speaker 4>twenty years or twenty five, and it just didn't work

0:43:33.840 --> 0:43:37.160
<v Speaker 4>out because unfortunately a lot of people don't realize that

0:43:38.120 --> 0:43:40.400
<v Speaker 4>Mike has been away from the group longer than he

0:43:40.560 --> 0:43:41.200
<v Speaker 4>was in the group.

0:43:42.160 --> 0:43:45.439
<v Speaker 3>Right Like he left in nineteen ninety nine.

0:43:45.640 --> 0:43:50.560
<v Speaker 4>We had that just started in ninety two, so bringing

0:43:50.640 --> 0:43:53.280
<v Speaker 4>him back for the twentieth anniversary, in the twenty fifth anniversary,

0:43:53.719 --> 0:43:56.640
<v Speaker 4>Mike McKinny is a different guy that we didn't grow

0:43:56.760 --> 0:43:59.759
<v Speaker 4>up with from ninety nine to twenty twenty.

0:44:00.280 --> 0:44:03.400
<v Speaker 3>He's just a different person. He's just been gone for

0:44:03.560 --> 0:44:04.359
<v Speaker 3>a long time.

0:44:04.840 --> 0:44:08.000
<v Speaker 4>And at that time, we were all growing up families

0:44:08.280 --> 0:44:11.640
<v Speaker 4>becoming men, like, oh, this is when we really started

0:44:11.680 --> 0:44:15.040
<v Speaker 4>to learn different things about ourselves that we needed to

0:44:15.120 --> 0:44:18.080
<v Speaker 4>grow up around each other so we could understand those

0:44:18.160 --> 0:44:20.759
<v Speaker 4>different things about each other. But he was all the

0:44:20.800 --> 0:44:21.600
<v Speaker 4>way over there, so.

0:44:21.719 --> 0:44:24.360
<v Speaker 3>We don't even know. In some cases, honestly, it sounds

0:44:24.440 --> 0:44:26.440
<v Speaker 3>sad to say it. We don't even know who he

0:44:26.600 --> 0:44:27.239
<v Speaker 3>is right now.

0:44:27.239 --> 0:44:30.120
<v Speaker 16>Who he is now, and honestly, we really know who

0:44:30.160 --> 0:44:35.360
<v Speaker 16>he was back with that on top of Mike was

0:44:35.520 --> 0:44:37.640
<v Speaker 16>Mike was always the.

0:44:37.920 --> 0:44:39.399
<v Speaker 9>Other dude, you know what I'm saying.

0:44:39.480 --> 0:44:44.040
<v Speaker 13>Like if we got if we got freaking uh paffinders,

0:44:44.160 --> 0:44:47.360
<v Speaker 13>Mike would get a rodeo if we got you know

0:44:47.400 --> 0:44:49.960
<v Speaker 13>what I'm saying, ben'ses, Mike would get get a push

0:44:50.400 --> 0:44:51.399
<v Speaker 13>if you know what I'm saying.

0:44:51.800 --> 0:44:55.439
<v Speaker 9>He just was always separate from us, like we would

0:44:55.520 --> 0:44:57.840
<v Speaker 9>hang out and Mike would not be there. You know

0:44:57.920 --> 0:44:58.439
<v Speaker 9>what I'm saying.

0:44:59.239 --> 0:45:00.960
<v Speaker 4>He just came in to the school in the same

0:45:01.040 --> 0:45:06.040
<v Speaker 4>year that I came in, and Mike had Mike had

0:45:06.040 --> 0:45:09.880
<v Speaker 4>a pitch problem, and you know it kind of alienated

0:45:09.960 --> 0:45:11.760
<v Speaker 4>him away from a lot of people in the choir

0:45:11.840 --> 0:45:14.719
<v Speaker 4>in the school at that time, because Mike also had

0:45:14.760 --> 0:45:17.200
<v Speaker 4>that attitude, well, I'm gonna do what I can and

0:45:17.280 --> 0:45:19.640
<v Speaker 4>if you don't like it, fuck you. And that's kind

0:45:19.680 --> 0:45:22.520
<v Speaker 4>of what this attitude. Well, he's like, I'm I'm gonna

0:45:22.520 --> 0:45:25.399
<v Speaker 4>try to sing it. If it don't get there, talk

0:45:25.400 --> 0:45:27.560
<v Speaker 4>about me all you want, the hell with you? And

0:45:27.640 --> 0:45:29.440
<v Speaker 4>if you talk about me too much, then we might

0:45:29.560 --> 0:45:31.040
<v Speaker 4>have to have some physical altercation.

0:45:32.640 --> 0:45:33.640
<v Speaker 3>And that's just who he was.

0:45:34.840 --> 0:45:35.279
<v Speaker 9>I see that.

0:45:36.239 --> 0:45:38.080
<v Speaker 11>What part of Philly was Mike from? What part of Philly?

0:45:38.160 --> 0:45:38.480
<v Speaker 1>Is he from?

0:45:39.360 --> 0:45:39.680
<v Speaker 8>Logan?

0:45:40.680 --> 0:45:40.919
<v Speaker 9>Okay?

0:45:41.719 --> 0:45:44.440
<v Speaker 1>Actually showing where were you from in Philly?

0:45:45.320 --> 0:45:47.360
<v Speaker 6>Of the suburbs of southwest Philadelphia?

0:45:48.080 --> 0:45:51.239
<v Speaker 11>What is that called up? What is he saying? I

0:45:51.239 --> 0:45:52.120
<v Speaker 11>don't understand what is that?

0:45:52.280 --> 0:45:55.920
<v Speaker 6>I don't ever any damn suburbs in the southwest Philadelphia.

0:45:57.040 --> 0:46:00.840
<v Speaker 6>Belmart Terrace right down the stone from my park and

0:46:01.000 --> 0:46:02.120
<v Speaker 6>Paul Brothers.

0:46:03.840 --> 0:46:05.319
<v Speaker 1>And you know what I'm saying.

0:46:05.719 --> 0:46:07.359
<v Speaker 9>That's that's where I come from.

0:46:07.760 --> 0:46:11.480
<v Speaker 1>I know, I grew up in South thirty six ty,

0:46:11.520 --> 0:46:11.800
<v Speaker 1>I get it.

0:46:12.040 --> 0:46:14.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I grew up in Southwest like fifty eighth and

0:46:14.920 --> 0:46:18.480
<v Speaker 4>fifty from Wooland Avenue like Greenway Avenue and then.

0:46:18.600 --> 0:46:21.759
<v Speaker 1>Crest you know what Crush what?

0:46:24.080 --> 0:46:24.279
<v Speaker 9>Yeah?

0:46:24.280 --> 0:46:26.000
<v Speaker 1>All right, so I used to bag a crush son

0:46:26.760 --> 0:46:27.160
<v Speaker 1>for real?

0:46:27.840 --> 0:46:27.880
<v Speaker 3>What?

0:46:28.280 --> 0:46:31.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's where I used to get what?

0:46:31.360 --> 0:46:32.680
<v Speaker 3>Man, help me with your bags? Messed?

0:46:32.719 --> 0:46:33.960
<v Speaker 8>Well, how you get a quarner, nigga?

0:46:34.000 --> 0:46:34.040
<v Speaker 3>What?

0:46:34.719 --> 0:46:39.279
<v Speaker 8>Anyway, I grew up over there, and then when I

0:46:39.400 --> 0:46:39.960
<v Speaker 8>started going to.

0:46:39.960 --> 0:46:42.200
<v Speaker 3>Perfoman ours whatever, I moved into South Philly. So I

0:46:42.239 --> 0:46:42.920
<v Speaker 3>grew up over there.

0:46:42.960 --> 0:46:43.960
<v Speaker 8>But no, I'm com from.

0:46:44.440 --> 0:46:46.719
<v Speaker 3>Matter of fact, my street was all the street right

0:46:46.800 --> 0:46:47.799
<v Speaker 3>in front of Crush.

0:46:48.440 --> 0:46:51.239
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I know who that is. My grandmam lived around

0:46:51.280 --> 0:46:53.320
<v Speaker 2>that way. So that's how I know. Thursday was just

0:46:53.360 --> 0:46:58.480
<v Speaker 2>shopping for Grandma. I'm at Crest boy, Okay what now?

0:46:58.960 --> 0:46:59.279
<v Speaker 1>Damn it?

0:46:59.320 --> 0:46:59.640
<v Speaker 8>All right?

0:46:59.719 --> 0:46:59.839
<v Speaker 1>Now?

0:47:01.440 --> 0:47:01.759
<v Speaker 8>All right?

0:47:02.640 --> 0:47:08.440
<v Speaker 1>Do you guys do you guys ever get sentimental for

0:47:08.520 --> 0:47:09.440
<v Speaker 1>Philly at all?

0:47:10.719 --> 0:47:13.840
<v Speaker 3>And do you act on it?

0:47:14.239 --> 0:47:17.880
<v Speaker 1>Okay? So a gps the fucking directions in the fucking.

0:47:17.640 --> 0:47:19.240
<v Speaker 7>Street name yes, they get nostalgica.

0:47:20.360 --> 0:47:23.840
<v Speaker 2>My ship's a little bit different, Like I will actually

0:47:24.040 --> 0:47:29.160
<v Speaker 2>designate maybe every other month, I will.

0:47:31.360 --> 0:47:32.880
<v Speaker 1>I will actually ride the L.

0:47:35.760 --> 0:47:41.080
<v Speaker 2>I've done it before before every roots picnic, Like when

0:47:41.160 --> 0:47:46.239
<v Speaker 2>rehearsals start, I'll designate about six hours to just sit

0:47:46.480 --> 0:47:50.960
<v Speaker 2>on the L from sixty ninth Street all the way

0:47:50.960 --> 0:47:53.600
<v Speaker 2>to the other end and full circle it just to.

0:47:56.280 --> 0:48:00.440
<v Speaker 3>It didn't work, lashes.

0:48:00.440 --> 0:48:02.120
<v Speaker 4>I was caught every time because it's all part of

0:48:02.160 --> 0:48:04.759
<v Speaker 4>the outfit. So either way, it's nothing I could hide

0:48:04.800 --> 0:48:06.799
<v Speaker 4>with unless I just put a hood over my head.

0:48:06.840 --> 0:48:09.799
<v Speaker 4>This is to might think I'm crazy, right, But.

0:48:09.920 --> 0:48:11.759
<v Speaker 2>I mean, do you guys, like, when's the last time

0:48:11.800 --> 0:48:16.000
<v Speaker 2>that you really, like just like just I really went

0:48:16.160 --> 0:48:19.960
<v Speaker 2>to landmarks of your life or like try to chase ghosts.

0:48:20.000 --> 0:48:21.080
<v Speaker 2>I call it chasing ghosts.

0:48:21.200 --> 0:48:23.279
<v Speaker 8>Where I did that last time?

0:48:23.640 --> 0:48:25.480
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, a couple of years ago, I took my kids

0:48:26.480 --> 0:48:29.719
<v Speaker 5>to my actual block where I lived.

0:48:29.800 --> 0:48:33.000
<v Speaker 6>Like, I took all my kids. My wife was like, Yo,

0:48:33.080 --> 0:48:36.440
<v Speaker 6>we're gonna go to my neighborhood where I grew up.

0:48:37.120 --> 0:48:39.080
<v Speaker 11>Like the whole ship was it like an episode of

0:48:39.120 --> 0:48:40.160
<v Speaker 11>Black Were they scared?

0:48:41.280 --> 0:48:43.200
<v Speaker 5>No, they were They were just kind of astounded because yeah,

0:48:43.200 --> 0:48:45.399
<v Speaker 5>they kids, they callie kids.

0:48:45.400 --> 0:48:47.960
<v Speaker 6>They survived, you know what I'm saying. So when when

0:48:48.000 --> 0:48:50.840
<v Speaker 6>they actually got out the car and they saw.

0:48:50.719 --> 0:48:53.799
<v Speaker 1>You got out the car, oh yeah, we got yeah yeah,

0:48:54.760 --> 0:48:55.759
<v Speaker 1>And and and.

0:48:56.360 --> 0:49:00.160
<v Speaker 5>They saw rundowns, you know, houses and the street. It's

0:49:00.200 --> 0:49:02.120
<v Speaker 5>all fucked up in the whole nine yards.

0:49:02.160 --> 0:49:04.240
<v Speaker 6>And they was like, Daddy. My daughter was like, Daddy,

0:49:04.760 --> 0:49:05.680
<v Speaker 6>which house was yours?

0:49:05.800 --> 0:49:05.920
<v Speaker 10>Right?

0:49:06.000 --> 0:49:07.759
<v Speaker 6>And I said, well, that's my house right there, you know.

0:49:07.880 --> 0:49:09.520
<v Speaker 6>I pointed out the house that's where I grew up.

0:49:09.640 --> 0:49:14.560
<v Speaker 5>She's like, well, it's a really small house. Yeah, it's

0:49:14.600 --> 0:49:16.560
<v Speaker 5>a small house. Like five of us grew up in

0:49:16.640 --> 0:49:18.799
<v Speaker 5>that house. So yeah, like you know, and I took

0:49:18.840 --> 0:49:21.000
<v Speaker 5>him to get cheese, steaks and the whole nine yards.

0:49:21.080 --> 0:49:24.520
<v Speaker 5>So yeah, like that, we we got a dope city,

0:49:24.760 --> 0:49:27.480
<v Speaker 5>you know what I mean? Like this Brian me sometimes

0:49:27.600 --> 0:49:30.960
<v Speaker 5>this got his moments. But ultimately, I tell you what,

0:49:31.239 --> 0:49:32.759
<v Speaker 5>I go back there a lot.

0:49:34.000 --> 0:49:36.680
<v Speaker 1>Did they ginger by your spot? That's what we wanted

0:49:36.680 --> 0:49:36.960
<v Speaker 1>to get to?

0:49:37.640 --> 0:49:38.120
<v Speaker 6>Southwest?

0:49:38.200 --> 0:49:39.839
<v Speaker 11>Not southwest, it's gonna be last.

0:49:40.440 --> 0:49:41.760
<v Speaker 6>No, it's still black.

0:49:42.719 --> 0:49:44.640
<v Speaker 8>Oh yeah, no, Well I was in South Philly.

0:49:45.520 --> 0:49:47.839
<v Speaker 3>My house at the time was probably like one hundred

0:49:47.840 --> 0:49:52.319
<v Speaker 3>and thirty grand like they done took the whole South

0:49:52.360 --> 0:49:52.919
<v Speaker 3>Philly area.

0:49:53.000 --> 0:49:55.040
<v Speaker 4>But I mean, I get a soft spot when I

0:49:55.160 --> 0:49:57.920
<v Speaker 4>go back because like and I don't really you know,

0:49:58.040 --> 0:50:00.239
<v Speaker 4>we talk about this kind of stuff. But last year

0:50:00.760 --> 0:50:03.320
<v Speaker 4>Christmas Eve, I took my son and I took my

0:50:03.400 --> 0:50:07.279
<v Speaker 4>best friend who passed away from COVID. He was in

0:50:07.360 --> 0:50:10.200
<v Speaker 4>phil He's just living Philly. So I called him said, listen, dude,

0:50:10.200 --> 0:50:13.000
<v Speaker 4>I need you to just go to Target. I just

0:50:13.080 --> 0:50:16.359
<v Speaker 4>need you to buy every sock they got. I need

0:50:16.400 --> 0:50:19.560
<v Speaker 4>you to buy every sleeping bag they got. I need

0:50:19.640 --> 0:50:24.360
<v Speaker 4>you to buy every pair of gloves. And we just

0:50:24.480 --> 0:50:27.719
<v Speaker 4>went out and gave out socks and sleeping bags and

0:50:27.880 --> 0:50:31.200
<v Speaker 4>tents to homeless people because I know I used to

0:50:31.320 --> 0:50:34.719
<v Speaker 4>pass them every day. You know what I'm saying when

0:50:34.800 --> 0:50:37.239
<v Speaker 4>I went downtown. You know what I'm saying. And I

0:50:37.360 --> 0:50:40.080
<v Speaker 4>know that Philly has a big homeless problem. So I

0:50:40.239 --> 0:50:42.600
<v Speaker 4>just got a real soft spot for homeless people. I mean,

0:50:42.680 --> 0:50:45.080
<v Speaker 4>whether knowing what their story is or not, it just

0:50:45.200 --> 0:50:47.759
<v Speaker 4>has always bothered me. So I like going back to

0:50:47.880 --> 0:50:51.280
<v Speaker 4>Philly and just showing up and just giving people stuff.

0:50:52.040 --> 0:50:54.160
<v Speaker 4>Like I passed a homeless guy and just give him

0:50:54.160 --> 0:50:56.279
<v Speaker 4>a hundred bucks and just just so he can get

0:50:56.320 --> 0:50:58.560
<v Speaker 4>the react. Just I don't even I don't even care

0:50:58.719 --> 0:51:00.600
<v Speaker 4>what he does with it, because it's not has nothing

0:51:00.600 --> 0:51:02.920
<v Speaker 4>to do with me. I just I just want I

0:51:03.080 --> 0:51:06.160
<v Speaker 4>just want to feel the reaction that it means something

0:51:06.200 --> 0:51:08.440
<v Speaker 4>to him, and hopefully he'll do the right thing. But

0:51:08.719 --> 0:51:11.399
<v Speaker 4>growing up in that town, knowing where we all come

0:51:11.480 --> 0:51:14.080
<v Speaker 4>from and not having nowhere near what we have now,

0:51:14.680 --> 0:51:17.520
<v Speaker 4>to go back and to put smiles on people's faces

0:51:17.600 --> 0:51:20.880
<v Speaker 4>like that and to try different things like that, that's

0:51:20.920 --> 0:51:22.440
<v Speaker 4>what I get a soft spot for when.

0:51:22.280 --> 0:51:24.640
<v Speaker 10>I love man, Do you think there's that kind of

0:51:24.680 --> 0:51:26.840
<v Speaker 10>what got you into doing the rehabs and doing the

0:51:26.920 --> 0:51:28.759
<v Speaker 10>housing like you're just showing it in.

0:51:28.719 --> 0:51:29.200
<v Speaker 8>A little bit.

0:51:29.400 --> 0:51:32.800
<v Speaker 4>I'm really My dad brought me up in my brothers

0:51:32.840 --> 0:51:34.719
<v Speaker 4>and family on you know, always being able to do

0:51:34.840 --> 0:51:37.000
<v Speaker 4>so much in hands, whether this is music or whatever.

0:51:37.080 --> 0:51:39.040
<v Speaker 4>It happens great, but at the end of the day,

0:51:39.080 --> 0:51:40.720
<v Speaker 4>a man has to be able to take care of himself.

0:51:40.760 --> 0:51:42.800
<v Speaker 4>And the only thing he did his best two tools

0:51:43.239 --> 0:51:45.880
<v Speaker 4>is his hands, so we were always taught to figure

0:51:45.880 --> 0:51:48.759
<v Speaker 4>out something to do with them. So that was like

0:51:48.840 --> 0:51:51.040
<v Speaker 4>a combination of the two. For me, knowing that I

0:51:51.200 --> 0:51:53.560
<v Speaker 4>come from nothing and knowing that I have the ability

0:51:54.080 --> 0:51:56.120
<v Speaker 4>not just with my hands, but a financially, I have

0:51:56.200 --> 0:51:58.120
<v Speaker 4>the ability I didn't have before. So it was like

0:51:58.239 --> 0:52:01.239
<v Speaker 4>bringing them all together. So that was we came up

0:52:01.280 --> 0:52:04.040
<v Speaker 4>with an idea of for our charity called the Boys

0:52:04.080 --> 0:52:06.480
<v Speaker 4>Cement House, And one of the biggest one of the

0:52:06.560 --> 0:52:08.520
<v Speaker 4>ideas was to try the build. This is you know

0:52:08.800 --> 0:52:10.920
<v Speaker 4>for COVID and all the creations, was to try to

0:52:11.000 --> 0:52:14.600
<v Speaker 4>build these boys to mend houses in these urban communities

0:52:14.680 --> 0:52:17.680
<v Speaker 4>where you know, kids, you know, after school programs, people

0:52:17.760 --> 0:52:19.640
<v Speaker 4>can come, get on the computer, all that kind of stuff,

0:52:19.840 --> 0:52:22.759
<v Speaker 4>to where people would have the ability to enjoy, you know,

0:52:22.880 --> 0:52:25.120
<v Speaker 4>the things that we couldn't enjoy when we were kids.

0:52:25.200 --> 0:52:27.640
<v Speaker 4>So doing the stuff with my hands and building that's

0:52:27.680 --> 0:52:29.640
<v Speaker 4>something that I've always loved to do and will always

0:52:29.680 --> 0:52:32.120
<v Speaker 4>continue to do. And like I said that that that

0:52:32.239 --> 0:52:34.759
<v Speaker 4>homeless thing is really is really really big for me

0:52:34.880 --> 0:52:38.400
<v Speaker 4>because I always believe that there's stories and all people,

0:52:39.040 --> 0:52:41.320
<v Speaker 4>and you know, we all pass most homeless people and

0:52:41.360 --> 0:52:43.920
<v Speaker 4>be like, oh, yeah, well you know, he probably you know, drugs, it.

0:52:44.120 --> 0:52:46.840
<v Speaker 4>We always assume that, but if we actually knew the

0:52:46.960 --> 0:52:50.440
<v Speaker 4>story of each individual, I'm sure we always think different

0:52:50.520 --> 0:52:53.000
<v Speaker 4>and the fact that we don't know them makes us

0:52:53.120 --> 0:52:54.399
<v Speaker 4>all think of them the same way.

0:52:54.440 --> 0:52:56.360
<v Speaker 3>And I think they get a bad rap on the time.

0:52:58.000 --> 0:53:00.440
<v Speaker 12>Living in caliar change your life and changing about the

0:53:00.480 --> 0:53:01.759
<v Speaker 12>homeless because it's no way.

0:53:02.080 --> 0:53:04.319
<v Speaker 4>Well, I've I've been to skid roll there and I've

0:53:04.360 --> 0:53:06.200
<v Speaker 4>taken stuff to them too, and I know that their

0:53:06.200 --> 0:53:09.920
<v Speaker 4>homeless problem has gotten worse. I know that their homeless

0:53:09.960 --> 0:53:13.720
<v Speaker 4>people are more aggressive than most. And again it's because

0:53:14.280 --> 0:53:16.239
<v Speaker 4>it's the stories. I mean, you got to remember some

0:53:16.280 --> 0:53:20.120
<v Speaker 4>of these people are belong there, that they just did

0:53:20.360 --> 0:53:23.040
<v Speaker 4>wrong things or their drugging, and then some people might

0:53:23.080 --> 0:53:25.799
<v Speaker 4>have been a day and a half from paying their

0:53:25.840 --> 0:53:28.719
<v Speaker 4>mortgage and they lost everything. Or someone might have lost

0:53:28.760 --> 0:53:31.080
<v Speaker 4>their job and their wife left them and there and

0:53:31.160 --> 0:53:33.840
<v Speaker 4>their kid died from something like we don't know their.

0:53:33.760 --> 0:53:36.400
<v Speaker 9>Story is crazy.

0:53:36.520 --> 0:53:38.520
<v Speaker 8>So for anybody without.

0:53:38.239 --> 0:53:40.880
<v Speaker 4>A doubt, it can drive you into so many different

0:53:40.920 --> 0:53:42.040
<v Speaker 4>situations that we don't know.

0:53:47.520 --> 0:53:50.799
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna end with this question. You guys are are

0:53:51.239 --> 0:53:57.080
<v Speaker 2>beyond ubiquitous. Okay, You're You're like oxygen or water. So

0:53:57.160 --> 0:53:59.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm certain that at some point certain things didn't impress you.

0:54:00.640 --> 0:54:05.399
<v Speaker 2>But what what key figure individually? I'm asking this question,

0:54:06.600 --> 0:54:09.840
<v Speaker 2>Who's Who's the person that you met that really was

0:54:10.080 --> 0:54:15.880
<v Speaker 2>like an oh shit, this is really happening moment that

0:54:16.160 --> 0:54:21.600
<v Speaker 2>really like heart palvitations or you know that you were

0:54:21.600 --> 0:54:24.400
<v Speaker 2>impressed that you got to meet and and.

0:54:25.480 --> 0:54:26.720
<v Speaker 1>Or work with or whatever.

0:54:27.080 --> 0:54:27.400
<v Speaker 9>Prince.

0:54:29.040 --> 0:54:32.799
<v Speaker 13>Really Yeah, for me, it was Prince because I mean

0:54:33.560 --> 0:54:37.200
<v Speaker 13>I just you know, he's a mysterious dude, you know

0:54:37.280 --> 0:54:37.799
<v Speaker 13>what I'm saying.

0:54:38.239 --> 0:54:40.560
<v Speaker 9>You know, so not too many people, you know, don't

0:54:40.680 --> 0:54:42.959
<v Speaker 9>really know too much about him, not too many people

0:54:43.040 --> 0:54:45.600
<v Speaker 9>around him, you know what I'm saying. And it was

0:54:45.719 --> 0:54:47.680
<v Speaker 9>always like, you know, you always wonder.

0:54:47.800 --> 0:54:50.319
<v Speaker 13>So after Purple Rain, you know, I was really really

0:54:50.480 --> 0:54:52.960
<v Speaker 13>into that, that whole Purple Rain thing, and you know,

0:54:53.800 --> 0:54:56.839
<v Speaker 13>when we actually were invited to his house, I mean,

0:54:56.920 --> 0:55:00.719
<v Speaker 13>to his studio, yeah, you know what I mean. I

0:55:01.160 --> 0:55:04.799
<v Speaker 13>literally I didn't really like let the fellas know too much,

0:55:04.920 --> 0:55:07.759
<v Speaker 13>but I was like in awe, like.

0:55:08.080 --> 0:55:11.560
<v Speaker 9>Wow, this dude is really Prince, you know what I'm saying.

0:55:15.000 --> 0:55:15.760
<v Speaker 8>It's really.

0:55:19.840 --> 0:55:23.200
<v Speaker 1>Seem I know, I feel I met Michael Jackson.

0:55:23.400 --> 0:55:25.239
<v Speaker 13>Michael as cool as hell, you know what I'm saying.

0:55:25.320 --> 0:55:28.279
<v Speaker 13>But Michael is is not as mysterious, you know what

0:55:28.360 --> 0:55:33.120
<v Speaker 13>I'm saying. You know, Yeah, I'm just talking about like

0:55:33.160 --> 0:55:35.600
<v Speaker 13>when I met him. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

0:55:35.719 --> 0:55:38.160
<v Speaker 13>He was really a cool dude, and so was Prince.

0:55:38.239 --> 0:55:41.680
<v Speaker 13>But it was almost like when I'm when we met him,

0:55:42.239 --> 0:55:44.920
<v Speaker 13>I almost felt like I wasn't supposed.

0:55:44.480 --> 0:55:45.359
<v Speaker 3>To be meeting him.

0:55:45.520 --> 0:55:51.000
<v Speaker 9>You feel what I'm saying? Man, Like, am I really

0:55:51.920 --> 0:55:52.440
<v Speaker 9>like this is?

0:55:52.640 --> 0:55:53.200
<v Speaker 8>This is Prince?

0:55:53.280 --> 0:55:54.960
<v Speaker 13>But I was keeping it cool. You know what I'm saying.

0:55:55.000 --> 0:55:57.000
<v Speaker 13>I wouldn't be like good Prince, but I was just

0:55:57.120 --> 0:56:00.400
<v Speaker 13>like yo. And then you know, they turned. It was

0:56:00.400 --> 0:56:02.200
<v Speaker 13>a lot of stories. It turned into a lot of

0:56:02.640 --> 0:56:06.080
<v Speaker 13>real funny stories as time progress, you know what I'm saying.

0:56:06.600 --> 0:56:08.719
<v Speaker 9>But I swear it was. That was one of the

0:56:08.800 --> 0:56:11.080
<v Speaker 9>moments where I was like, oh ship, you know what

0:56:11.120 --> 0:56:11.359
<v Speaker 9>I mean.

0:56:11.440 --> 0:56:14.640
<v Speaker 13>And I've met almost everybody I've wanted to meet, you

0:56:14.719 --> 0:56:15.319
<v Speaker 13>know what I'm saying.

0:56:16.120 --> 0:56:19.240
<v Speaker 2>Speaking of which, have you ever heard of his demo

0:56:19.880 --> 0:56:24.280
<v Speaker 2>for seven, which is based on the Simple remix?

0:56:25.320 --> 0:56:25.360
<v Speaker 3>No?

0:56:25.920 --> 0:56:26.719
<v Speaker 7>You never heard the p.

0:56:28.600 --> 0:56:35.040
<v Speaker 4>I'm a Prince collegist, I you know, I mean whatever, Okay,

0:56:35.640 --> 0:56:37.880
<v Speaker 4>shop pause that hold that thought because Prince College.

0:56:37.920 --> 0:56:39.560
<v Speaker 8>And I'm gonna see if you get this real quick.

0:56:39.920 --> 0:56:45.040
<v Speaker 4>This is a little trivia trivia The two albums. It's

0:56:45.080 --> 0:56:51.000
<v Speaker 4>a song, very very big song for us. Yeah, I know, yes,

0:56:51.560 --> 0:56:54.480
<v Speaker 4>the harmony behind uh uh, thank.

0:56:54.320 --> 0:57:03.520
<v Speaker 1>You you alogists also boys the men. I was just so,

0:57:03.680 --> 0:57:06.560
<v Speaker 1>what was it stolen from? What was it stolen from?

0:57:06.600 --> 0:57:09.799
<v Speaker 1>Seven watched them?

0:57:10.160 --> 0:57:13.960
<v Speaker 4>Okay, Yeah, I got the background harmonies between behind One's League.

0:57:14.280 --> 0:57:17.800
<v Speaker 2>It's probably one of Princess great Yes. When I heard that,

0:57:17.880 --> 0:57:19.600
<v Speaker 2>I was like, Okay, I would have done the same

0:57:19.640 --> 0:57:23.840
<v Speaker 2>thing too, because as nice little pockets of harmony that

0:57:24.000 --> 0:57:24.480
<v Speaker 2>you could pay.

0:57:24.840 --> 0:57:26.880
<v Speaker 4>Just hoping he ain't get us for it, dude, because

0:57:26.880 --> 0:57:30.080
<v Speaker 4>I was like, I think we should maybe we shouldn't.

0:57:30.560 --> 0:57:35.560
<v Speaker 3>It's too late. No, No, he didn't.

0:57:37.120 --> 0:57:41.360
<v Speaker 1>He probably liked it.

0:57:43.200 --> 0:57:45.640
<v Speaker 6>He borrowed, but he did.

0:57:45.960 --> 0:57:46.160
<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

0:57:46.200 --> 0:57:52.480
<v Speaker 2>But the the Tevin Campbell uh demo for the p which, okay,

0:57:52.880 --> 0:57:56.920
<v Speaker 2>I more more than classic print songs. I'm really a

0:57:57.040 --> 0:58:03.520
<v Speaker 2>friend of like his worst songs, and this is his

0:58:03.680 --> 0:58:05.080
<v Speaker 2>second worst song ever.

0:58:06.320 --> 0:58:08.160
<v Speaker 1>Worse than Illusion coma Pimp.

0:58:08.720 --> 0:58:14.160
<v Speaker 2>Well, no, absolute worst song is actually a song called

0:58:14.200 --> 0:58:17.920
<v Speaker 2>Work that Fatal.

0:58:18.600 --> 0:58:25.600
<v Speaker 1>Yes, but yeah, wow his uh actually you know what

0:58:26.000 --> 0:58:26.560
<v Speaker 1>I think.

0:58:28.040 --> 0:58:31.360
<v Speaker 2>I still think that that track that Tevin did, that track,

0:58:32.000 --> 0:58:35.680
<v Speaker 2>but yes, he the there's a there's a four bar

0:58:35.800 --> 0:58:38.040
<v Speaker 2>drum break at the very end of the simple remix

0:58:38.840 --> 0:58:43.240
<v Speaker 2>that he used as the basis of of that song,

0:58:43.320 --> 0:58:45.600
<v Speaker 2>and always I love that remix too.

0:58:45.640 --> 0:58:51.240
<v Speaker 1>I bought that a single as a kid, the single remix. Yeah,

0:58:51.360 --> 0:58:54.880
<v Speaker 1>I love that record, man. Yeah, all all right, So

0:58:54.960 --> 0:58:56.240
<v Speaker 1>who's your person, Sean?

0:58:57.040 --> 0:58:58.080
<v Speaker 9>Uh, it would have to be.

0:59:00.960 --> 0:59:04.720
<v Speaker 6>Like he's the reason why I even seen like you

0:59:04.800 --> 0:59:10.880
<v Speaker 6>know what I mean, Like just his whole vocal. I

0:59:11.000 --> 0:59:12.120
<v Speaker 6>was always in love with his.

0:59:13.640 --> 0:59:14.160
<v Speaker 9>Vibroada.

0:59:15.480 --> 0:59:20.240
<v Speaker 5>And you know, quite naturally, when you copy somebody or

0:59:20.280 --> 0:59:22.880
<v Speaker 5>when you you you listen to somebody every day, you

0:59:23.600 --> 0:59:26.960
<v Speaker 5>can't help but the copy, you know, some vocally. So

0:59:27.120 --> 0:59:31.400
<v Speaker 5>sometimes I'll hit something that might sound like Mike and

0:59:31.640 --> 0:59:35.880
<v Speaker 5>and and it's not by design, It's just it just

0:59:36.000 --> 0:59:38.720
<v Speaker 5>comes out, you know what I'm saying. And you know,

0:59:39.320 --> 0:59:42.400
<v Speaker 5>to to know that Mike was the type of dude

0:59:42.440 --> 0:59:45.120
<v Speaker 5>that when we did see him, he would ask how

0:59:45.200 --> 0:59:45.720
<v Speaker 5>our family?

0:59:46.600 --> 0:59:47.280
<v Speaker 6>How you doing?

0:59:48.160 --> 0:59:52.040
<v Speaker 7>Like you know, it was normal, like to to have these.

0:59:52.000 --> 0:59:56.600
<v Speaker 6>Conversations with a guy who is the greatest entertainer the

0:59:56.680 --> 1:00:00.560
<v Speaker 6>world has ever seen, and to actually we worked with

1:00:00.640 --> 1:00:04.320
<v Speaker 6>him intimately, you know, Uh, was I did the one more?

1:00:04.400 --> 1:00:05.160
<v Speaker 6>Can I give things?

1:00:05.680 --> 1:00:08.760
<v Speaker 5>You know when not Levin did, and for him to

1:00:08.920 --> 1:00:12.520
<v Speaker 5>personally invite me and come to the studio before even

1:00:13.040 --> 1:00:15.480
<v Speaker 5>you know, did the song. We're just chopping it up

1:00:15.520 --> 1:00:18.360
<v Speaker 5>about stuff and then he goes in tells me what

1:00:18.480 --> 1:00:20.280
<v Speaker 5>I need to sing blah blah blah blah and do it.

1:00:20.400 --> 1:00:24.240
<v Speaker 5>Like in my wildest dreams, I would have never thought

1:00:24.760 --> 1:00:27.480
<v Speaker 5>having a relationship.

1:00:26.960 --> 1:00:31.280
<v Speaker 6>Like this wasn't just like people like we were.

1:00:31.480 --> 1:00:33.920
<v Speaker 5>We were cool with the with the man, and he

1:00:34.200 --> 1:00:36.480
<v Speaker 5>understood us and we understood him, you know what I'm saying,

1:00:36.520 --> 1:00:38.400
<v Speaker 5>and and that was the cool thing about that.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was actually I'm glad you mentioned that.

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<v Speaker 2>The one question we never asked Jimmy jam was the

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<v Speaker 2>making of the title track for Were you guys there

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<v Speaker 2>for the creation of it or were you just brought

1:00:49.600 --> 1:00:52.120
<v Speaker 2>in at the end to sing your parts on the

1:00:52.160 --> 1:00:53.800
<v Speaker 2>title track of History because.

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<v Speaker 12>We sang it.

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<v Speaker 6>We said he wasn't there, but we sang it and.

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<v Speaker 9>Was my dad?

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<v Speaker 6>Remember he was there?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

1:01:04.240 --> 1:01:05.960
<v Speaker 6>When we actually sang the record.

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<v Speaker 9>Though, was when we sang the harmonies to History. Mike

1:01:09.600 --> 1:01:10.440
<v Speaker 9>was in the studio.

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<v Speaker 13>He came in and we talked for like three hours

1:01:12.760 --> 1:01:15.280
<v Speaker 13>before we actually said, Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I wanted to because that song is so intricate

1:01:19.600 --> 1:01:24.960
<v Speaker 2>and you know, made in ninety five before like Ableton,

1:01:25.080 --> 1:01:27.400
<v Speaker 2>and like the type of demands that he had to

1:01:27.640 --> 1:01:32.000
<v Speaker 2>create that song really wasn't common, right, you know, so

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<v Speaker 2>you know awful.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't ask it.

1:01:34.800 --> 1:01:36.880
<v Speaker 2>I didn't ask Jimmy jam on air, but I asked, like,

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<v Speaker 2>what was your like the Nightmare project that and he said,

1:01:39.640 --> 1:01:42.200
<v Speaker 2>oh no, without a doubt history because he kept we

1:01:42.320 --> 1:01:44.040
<v Speaker 2>were present something. He's like, all right, push it more,

1:01:44.280 --> 1:01:46.800
<v Speaker 2>push it more, push it more, you know, Ethison, and

1:01:47.040 --> 1:01:48.800
<v Speaker 2>it goes all over the place. I wanted to know,

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<v Speaker 2>were you guys there for the stacking of.

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<v Speaker 1>That like we did our partner.

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<v Speaker 8>Then they took it and kind of ran okay.

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<v Speaker 9>I see.

1:02:01.080 --> 1:02:03.320
<v Speaker 6>Too, because he compressed us and squished us all the

1:02:03.360 --> 1:02:04.200
<v Speaker 6>way down barely.

1:02:07.520 --> 1:02:10.560
<v Speaker 1>I as you guys singing on it. So Sean, I

1:02:10.720 --> 1:02:12.840
<v Speaker 1>was asked, you man, you're so.

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<v Speaker 10>I didn't know until like a couple of years ago

1:02:15.840 --> 1:02:21.160
<v Speaker 10>that Anthony David is your cousin. Yeah, yeah, and big

1:02:21.240 --> 1:02:24.440
<v Speaker 10>old Anthony days my brother man. And he told me

1:02:24.600 --> 1:02:27.960
<v Speaker 10>when y'all did the record. Y'all covered Tears for Fears

1:02:28.000 --> 1:02:31.080
<v Speaker 10>Everybody Wants through the World on his album as well.

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<v Speaker 10>So I'm for twenty eleven and he was telling me

1:02:34.240 --> 1:02:37.280
<v Speaker 10>just about tracking that and I said, so, man, so

1:02:37.360 --> 1:02:38.880
<v Speaker 10>what was it like like Sean and the studio? He

1:02:38.960 --> 1:02:41.000
<v Speaker 10>was like, dude, SHAWNA is just one take. He's like

1:02:41.080 --> 1:02:43.280
<v Speaker 10>he's singing all these harmonies, like he's finding notes in

1:02:43.360 --> 1:02:48.440
<v Speaker 10>between the notes. Like he just had just nothing but positivity,

1:02:48.560 --> 1:02:49.560
<v Speaker 10>like to say about your man.

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<v Speaker 6>So I did not realize he could even sing.

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<v Speaker 1>Really aw him.

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<v Speaker 5>We were all coming out of Madison Square Garden in

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<v Speaker 5>New York and we were in the ND. I read

1:03:02.000 --> 1:03:05.640
<v Speaker 5>and and he was with her, and I was like,

1:03:06.080 --> 1:03:07.920
<v Speaker 5>what's up, cousin. I was like, what are you doing here?

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<v Speaker 9>And he was he was like singing.

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<v Speaker 5>I was like you what you know what I'm saying, like, nigga,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know you could sing like I had, Like

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<v Speaker 5>he never because he would come to Philly for the

1:03:21.320 --> 1:03:23.280
<v Speaker 5>summer sometime we would hang out and you know that

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<v Speaker 5>whole thing.

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<v Speaker 6>So he never once told me that he had them,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, he could sing or write or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 5>So when I first saw him on you know then

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<v Speaker 5>and then I saw him on TV and now he

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<v Speaker 5>got his album, and I was like, I'm ship.

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<v Speaker 6>So it's like, you know, and what's funny is is

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<v Speaker 6>uh Chinye my second cousin tiny?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 11>So your people's Atlanta?

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<v Speaker 6>Wow, yeah, I got, I got.

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<v Speaker 5>I got a lot of family in Savannah, where my

1:03:50.760 --> 1:03:55.960
<v Speaker 5>mother and my father's from. So I got a lot

1:03:56.160 --> 1:04:00.280
<v Speaker 5>of people in Savama, so you know, yeah, like it's crazy.

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<v Speaker 5>It's crazy, like I got a lot of family members

1:04:02.360 --> 1:04:05.600
<v Speaker 5>that you know. I found out that one of the

1:04:05.680 --> 1:04:09.280
<v Speaker 5>guys from remember the song, uh, some things going on.

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<v Speaker 1>Because yeah, two damns, man, something's going on, and they had.

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<v Speaker 6>And then it was restaurant.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, is like a second cousin of mine too. So

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<v Speaker 5>it's like I'm just kind of like it's I got

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<v Speaker 5>a music Wow, man, it's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>What was your thoughts were talking about groups?

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<v Speaker 10>What was your thoughts on okay, two questions, what were

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<v Speaker 10>your thoughts on fifteen minutes by Mark Morrison?

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<v Speaker 1>And what were your thoughts on Nelson? But no, I

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<v Speaker 1>said not more that's the turn of the mac which

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<v Speaker 1>is one of the green songs up.

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<v Speaker 10>But but Mark Nelson fifteen minutes, fifteen minutes as yet,

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<v Speaker 10>we used.

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<v Speaker 6>To we used to clown Mark with that fifteen minutes story.

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<v Speaker 8>I'll tell you that as yet story for me.

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<v Speaker 7>I am, let's go.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember verbatim. I was sitting at the crib.

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<v Speaker 4>I was watching uh b E t H and I

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<v Speaker 4>was this commercial came on, so I got up, walked

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<v Speaker 4>in the kitchen getting something to drink.

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<v Speaker 8>Came A song came.

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<v Speaker 3>Video came on and I heard. I heard the first verse.

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<v Speaker 1>And we ha love of it.

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<v Speaker 3>And then I heard uh drag yeo and I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>hold up. I kept listening and I'm like, oh, somebody

1:05:34.000 --> 1:05:36.200
<v Speaker 3>is trying to steal our ship. Who the fuck is this?

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<v Speaker 4>So I ran into the room and I looked at

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<v Speaker 4>the TV and I'm like, who the fuck is this

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<v Speaker 4>yellow nigga?

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<v Speaker 3>Who's this?

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<v Speaker 9>This is this other but curly motherfucker.

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<v Speaker 8>Then I saw Mark.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, this motherfucker. He went and did.

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<v Speaker 4>Another Boys to Men and didn't fuck eat. He's trying

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<v Speaker 4>to get us. He's trying to get us.

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<v Speaker 8>I can't remember. I don't know if it's wine or show.

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<v Speaker 8>I called somebody.

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<v Speaker 4>I called. I said, yo, Mark is trying to do

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<v Speaker 4>it to us because he got a group and they're

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<v Speaker 4>singing our ship.

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<v Speaker 3>That's exactly what I said, dude. Now mind you.

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<v Speaker 4>I ain't heard nobody that close ever, so I knew

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<v Speaker 4>it had to be somebody in the nucleus to know

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<v Speaker 4>how we did stuff. So I'm like, the way the

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<v Speaker 4>background harmonies was moving.

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<v Speaker 8>I was like, somebody it was.

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<v Speaker 9>It was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was the greatest baby face to you.

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<v Speaker 8>Man.

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<v Speaker 3>I lost it, I really and I was like, dude,

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<v Speaker 3>they're trying to do They're trying to get us.

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<v Speaker 4>I was somebody because he kept playing and it sounds

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<v Speaker 4>incredible like that, by far was one of the baddest

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<v Speaker 4>songs I had heard, and the and that like that

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<v Speaker 4>was one of the baddest songs of the nineties.

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<v Speaker 8>That song was nuts.

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<v Speaker 4>The fact that they had different guys singing different parts.

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<v Speaker 4>They had to face guy, they had to hide guy,

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<v Speaker 4>they had to falls up, they had the guy with

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<v Speaker 4>the flips and the man. I'm telling you, they were

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<v Speaker 4>the close. That song right there was the closest song

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<v Speaker 4>I've ever heard any group on the planet sing to

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<v Speaker 4>what we do?

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<v Speaker 9>All right?

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<v Speaker 1>Can I add? Can I add an unpopular take? Because

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<v Speaker 1>I have a theory.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh oh, and if you verified or if you choose

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<v Speaker 2>to verify it or not verify it, it's okay.

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<v Speaker 9>But I have a.

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<v Speaker 1>Because here's the thing I always wanted to know.

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<v Speaker 2>That, why did Face's rain of hits just abruptly stop

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<v Speaker 2>in two thousand and one, coincidentally the same time that

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<v Speaker 2>the members of as Yet left the Fold, or at

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<v Speaker 2>least under A left uh for managing the Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, were they his ghost writers?

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<v Speaker 8>Well, I will tell you this.

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<v Speaker 3>You didn't know that Mark did some writing with Face.

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<v Speaker 8>I do know that now.

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<v Speaker 3>What songs they were good?

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<v Speaker 1>Noight, no, this question.

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<v Speaker 3>I have had him and I have had that conversation,

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<v Speaker 3>and I know he's done some writing.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I don't know what. We never got into

1:08:28.640 --> 1:08:32.080
<v Speaker 4>what songs. But Mark came to them as a writer,

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<v Speaker 4>not a singer.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, he was under yap and under his wife's thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Then he got yeah he got he got put into

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<v Speaker 4>as Yet. That wasn't his his get up.

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<v Speaker 11>I know where does he live now?

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<v Speaker 8>He's he's actually back in New York.

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<v Speaker 3>And I just talked to him two days ago.

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<v Speaker 11>Okay, I just meant like, what kind of houses you

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<v Speaker 11>living in?

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<v Speaker 9>Trump Tower?

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<v Speaker 8>That's no, no, no, he's not he's not not not

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<v Speaker 8>not quite that now.

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to ask me. He faced that question when

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<v Speaker 2>he did the show. But you know, we had such

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<v Speaker 2>a good vibe. I didn't want to be like, I

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<v Speaker 2>tell you, I'll tell you this dude.

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<v Speaker 4>He's the one thing with face man and I tell

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<v Speaker 4>you and and I'm sure the guys can vouch man.

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<v Speaker 4>One thing that though we wrote, we though we wrote

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<v Speaker 4>pretty good songs, we learned how to critique our own.

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<v Speaker 3>Ability to write songs by writing with this guy. Meaning

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<v Speaker 3>you would hear him. He would write a song, he

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<v Speaker 3>would write a lyric or verse, and he would sing

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<v Speaker 3>it over.

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<v Speaker 4>He would play it over and over again, and he

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<v Speaker 4>take out a word, he put another word in, He

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<v Speaker 4>take out another word, put another word in. Now, if

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<v Speaker 4>all of us were listening, we'd be like, it flows

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<v Speaker 4>just fine. His theory, and it's really interesting theory.

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<v Speaker 3>His theory is.

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<v Speaker 4>The song will never be done and till you stop,

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<v Speaker 4>because if you don't stop, if you're a good enough songwriter,

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<v Speaker 4>you'll always find a better.

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<v Speaker 1>Way to turn a way to make it better.

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<v Speaker 4>So eventually, it's not about how good you are as

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<v Speaker 4>a songwriter. It's when you know and have the ability.

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<v Speaker 3>To stop, right because otherwise you just sit there. You

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<v Speaker 3>know what I'm saying. He was, No, that's not and

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<v Speaker 3>somebody like him, Like we learned how to.

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<v Speaker 4>Put certain notes on certain words because people would hear

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<v Speaker 4>it's a it's a it's let's just say it was

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<v Speaker 4>a major third chord that hit the home run of

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<v Speaker 4>a song, like what's the song saying cash?

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm drinking and.

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<v Speaker 9>Will be there?

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<v Speaker 4>Like the way he puts certain words that lands on

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<v Speaker 4>certain chords there for you to remember those words.

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<v Speaker 3>You ever notice when we think a song, we may

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<v Speaker 3>not always know the song. We'll go no no no, no,

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<v Speaker 3>no no no. And I love you because I love

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<v Speaker 3>you are the notes that he put there on purpose

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<v Speaker 3>that you he knew you were going to remember that part.

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<v Speaker 3>That's how he writes records, which is extremely interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>I never knew that before we sat with him, And

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<v Speaker 4>you don't really know unless you have the conversation.

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<v Speaker 6>About the funny thing about us the songwriter.

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<v Speaker 5>Think the funny thing about songwriters now too, in comparison

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<v Speaker 5>the songs that are out now that I listen to

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<v Speaker 5>the R and B songs.

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<v Speaker 6>To be specific, they were there. They're written a lot

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<v Speaker 6>like how.

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<v Speaker 5>We used to write our songs previous, Like you know,

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<v Speaker 5>there were songs that we would write and we would

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<v Speaker 5>let baby face there, for example.

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<v Speaker 6>And he also would say, you.

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<v Speaker 5>Know, say less, thanks, you know, like with everything that

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<v Speaker 5>you're saying, you know, we would try to fit in

1:11:52.640 --> 1:11:55.400
<v Speaker 5>a sentiment I love you and everything and if we're

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<v Speaker 5>growing together and blah blah blah blah blah blah and

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<v Speaker 5>all other stuff, and he would basically say say less,

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<v Speaker 5>like yeah, sometimes that's it. You don't need to say

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<v Speaker 5>anything else. And and and I've noticed that a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of a lot of songs now with R and B Records,

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<v Speaker 5>And I got a sixteen year old son, and he

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<v Speaker 5>can't even follow a lot of the lyrics that go

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<v Speaker 5>on with our artists because there's so much being said that.

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<v Speaker 1>They're almost trying to be rappers, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 10>It's almost like in the real rap I mean you

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<v Speaker 10>kind of I mean, if we're gonna keep it all

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<v Speaker 10>the way funky, we kind of got to me.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we kind of got boned to blame for that.

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<v Speaker 1>Like me, you would talk, you know, but.

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<v Speaker 4>We were taught in songwriting that you have to understand

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<v Speaker 4>that the average audience of who you're writing for, you

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<v Speaker 4>gotta look at them as happen in seventh grade education,

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<v Speaker 4>it can't give them too much.

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<v Speaker 3>You gotta get right to the point so they'll never

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<v Speaker 3>forget it.

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<v Speaker 10>Said the same thing we had him, and he was

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<v Speaker 10>saying he was like all that Parliament. He said, Man,

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<v Speaker 10>I was just trying to write nursery rhymes.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, and that's what it was.

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<v Speaker 4>Ship Face just has you tell you it's deeper than

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<v Speaker 4>his songwriting, dude, it's his freaking melodies. His melodies are

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<v Speaker 4>things that just they just live inside you.

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<v Speaker 3>Dude.

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<v Speaker 4>They're like to answer your question because I know you

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<v Speaker 4>asked this question about the this could be the last question.

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<v Speaker 7>It went more.

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<v Speaker 4>For I never really had a person that I met

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<v Speaker 4>in the business that I felt that way about that.

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<v Speaker 8>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 4>They kind of lit me up because my favorite, my

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<v Speaker 4>favorite person that passed away already was was Sam Cook.

1:13:34.720 --> 1:13:37.920
<v Speaker 4>I was a big Sam Cook soul stirs fan, Highway

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<v Speaker 4>q ses like all that. I grew up on that,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, Southern gospel stuff and San.

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<v Speaker 8>Guys. I'm in Chicago.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah No, I figured at least Bobby Woman could feel

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<v Speaker 2>that voice exactly.

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<v Speaker 8>So I grew up with all that.

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<v Speaker 4>But I will tell you that Face for me on

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<v Speaker 4>the songwriting aspect was the only person because I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>I love Jimmy's Jam and Terry Lewis because of it

1:14:05.320 --> 1:14:08.120
<v Speaker 4>feels and the things that they did. But I always

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<v Speaker 4>wanted to know how this guy was able to write

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<v Speaker 4>the song where the Again, it's always intriguing to me

1:14:16.680 --> 1:14:21.000
<v Speaker 4>how he puts the right notes on the right words

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<v Speaker 4>right lyric means everything to a song. Dude, I don't

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<v Speaker 4>care what your people used to say, Well, here I

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<v Speaker 4>got a poem. Can you make this into a song?

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<v Speaker 4>It's not that simple. Unless you know how to physically

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<v Speaker 4>put the right words on to the right note that

1:14:36.240 --> 1:14:39.439
<v Speaker 4>people remember, it's not going to have the significance. He

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<v Speaker 4>is a genius at figuring out the best way to

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<v Speaker 4>do that to where if you don't know the words,

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<v Speaker 4>you just hum the melody and then maybe three words

1:14:48.560 --> 1:14:51.040
<v Speaker 4>you know, And it's on those notes that he.

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<v Speaker 3>Made sure he put there on purpose.

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<v Speaker 4>That that's the guy that if you ask me in

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<v Speaker 4>my career, that I kind of was being around him

1:14:59.520 --> 1:15:02.600
<v Speaker 4>and working with him, that that was all struck for me.

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<v Speaker 10>Face was like that for me, you know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 10>just as a as a you know, songwriter, like I

1:15:07.560 --> 1:15:10.400
<v Speaker 10>would study him and Face and he was kind of

1:15:10.560 --> 1:15:13.479
<v Speaker 10>like him and Stevie were my two. Like when you

1:15:13.560 --> 1:15:16.679
<v Speaker 10>talk about like putting you know the power of this melody.

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<v Speaker 10>Stevie was just someone who his melodies would be like

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<v Speaker 10>very simple and you could just sing it. But the

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<v Speaker 10>ship he playing under that ship, nigga, you know what

1:15:29.040 --> 1:15:32.200
<v Speaker 10>I mean? Like you know, piano players.

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<v Speaker 1>Could never agree. It's like, well, I know, I think

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<v Speaker 1>this is an F thirteen.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't know.

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<v Speaker 8>You can't see the ship.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, you don't know. He just feels just feel.

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<v Speaker 8>Well paid. Bill.

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<v Speaker 2>I think this episode officially tops the Huey Lewis episode

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<v Speaker 2>as the most educational.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow education. This is high level game right here. Bro,

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<v Speaker 1>This like you know, talking to I did more listening.

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<v Speaker 14>Man should teach choral music at at the universities because

1:16:14.120 --> 1:16:15.200
<v Speaker 14>clearly they be real.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm like I would take that class.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean just guess I.

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<v Speaker 7>Put some I got wine.

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<v Speaker 9>So the man, Thank you, Bro, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 9>Thank you for always being real.

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<v Speaker 13>Always thank you the same every time we see you, Man,

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<v Speaker 13>it's always the same.

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<v Speaker 9>It's like we left off.

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<v Speaker 12>Man.

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<v Speaker 9>You know you're a real brother. You really really loved

1:16:47.080 --> 1:16:49.760
<v Speaker 9>over here, man, and anytime you need us, you know what.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm telling you I don't do much ship in

1:16:51.960 --> 1:16:53.400
<v Speaker 4>Corona without getting paid nigga.

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<v Speaker 12>So you you.

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<v Speaker 6>Mos, ladies and gentlemen.

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<v Speaker 9>Like, this is all.

1:17:05.000 --> 1:17:06.200
<v Speaker 8>This is all kappa.

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<v Speaker 1>My guys love we love we love that or I

1:17:10.080 --> 1:17:10.720
<v Speaker 1>appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 2>I love you guys. This is much man all right, well, guys,

1:17:14.400 --> 1:17:17.760
<v Speaker 2>thank you this. I'm not blowing smoke. I this is

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<v Speaker 2>this is this should have been a master number two niggas.

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<v Speaker 2>Man boy, this should have been a masterclass. Thank you

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<v Speaker 2>very much.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate this. On behalf man for real. Thank y'all,

1:17:29.360 --> 1:17:30.040
<v Speaker 1>Thank y'all for real.

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<v Speaker 10>Y'all made every slow jam tape I ever made for

1:17:32.960 --> 1:17:36.559
<v Speaker 10>a girl from like seven when when y'all made.

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<v Speaker 6>Was having.

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<v Speaker 8>Just wait, wait, don't you call them butt tape. Let's

1:17:52.479 --> 1:17:54.679
<v Speaker 8>be let's be real.

1:17:56.840 --> 1:17:58.240
<v Speaker 3>My crew will tell you we used to call you

1:17:58.360 --> 1:17:59.720
<v Speaker 3>with a butt tape because.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, wait, okay, I promise you this is the last question.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the last question because you guys have kids now,

1:18:09.960 --> 1:18:13.200
<v Speaker 2>watching your kids and seeing how gen Z is, do

1:18:13.439 --> 1:18:18.000
<v Speaker 2>you have hope musical hope for the future. And I'm

1:18:18.040 --> 1:18:20.680
<v Speaker 2>not and I'm not you know, I'm not trying to

1:18:20.800 --> 1:18:23.800
<v Speaker 2>make this at like from the old guy.

1:18:24.400 --> 1:18:27.519
<v Speaker 4>I'm what you does, and I'll speak because I guess

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<v Speaker 4>my son that's involved in music right now is the oldest.

1:18:31.880 --> 1:18:34.280
<v Speaker 4>I do have a little hope he grew up with us.

1:18:34.680 --> 1:18:38.560
<v Speaker 4>He understands it, he shares it with his friends. He

1:18:38.680 --> 1:18:42.320
<v Speaker 4>can see the difference now. I was always concerned that

1:18:42.640 --> 1:18:45.840
<v Speaker 4>most kids nowadays can't see the difference. I was also

1:18:45.960 --> 1:18:48.479
<v Speaker 4>concerned that we would turn into our grandparents or our

1:18:48.560 --> 1:18:52.599
<v Speaker 4>father's like, oh, well, we don't like that, But there

1:18:52.680 --> 1:18:55.200
<v Speaker 4>really is something to the music that we've done. Because

1:18:55.240 --> 1:18:57.760
<v Speaker 4>if you notice the nineties and everything is starting to

1:18:57.800 --> 1:19:00.200
<v Speaker 4>come back around because a lot of these kids just

1:19:00.320 --> 1:19:03.920
<v Speaker 4>weren't exposed to it. I think the exposure is more

1:19:03.960 --> 1:19:07.400
<v Speaker 4>important than anything. They will make the right decisions, but

1:19:07.479 --> 1:19:08.599
<v Speaker 4>they have to be exposed.

1:19:08.920 --> 1:19:10.880
<v Speaker 10>I saw that, and to your point, and they I

1:19:11.120 --> 1:19:14.120
<v Speaker 10>saw that a couple of years ago when they had

1:19:15.600 --> 1:19:17.439
<v Speaker 10>it was it was a social media thing where they

1:19:17.520 --> 1:19:21.000
<v Speaker 10>had My the Running Man Challenge or whatever, but everybody

1:19:21.120 --> 1:19:24.200
<v Speaker 10>was dancing to my Boo by ghost Town DJs, and

1:19:24.520 --> 1:19:26.439
<v Speaker 10>I saw like a bunch of kids, It's like, oh,

1:19:26.840 --> 1:19:28.519
<v Speaker 10>what is this song? And like that was one of

1:19:28.560 --> 1:19:31.920
<v Speaker 10>the first times I saw a song from like ninety six.

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<v Speaker 10>That song is from ninety six. That shit reentered.

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<v Speaker 1>It went like number one again after like however, like

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<v Speaker 1>twenty plus.

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<v Speaker 8>They just got to be exposed.

1:19:40.479 --> 1:19:42.679
<v Speaker 1>Man, it's got to be exposed. It's happened to Fleetwood

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<v Speaker 1>Mac right now, yeah, exactly?

1:19:44.479 --> 1:19:45.639
<v Speaker 4>Is that now?

1:19:46.200 --> 1:19:48.519
<v Speaker 2>The top five songs in twenty twenty one built like

1:19:48.560 --> 1:19:51.240
<v Speaker 2>crazy craz telling you man the melodies.

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<v Speaker 8>Man, it's happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, gentlemen, I thank you very much from the bottom

1:19:56.680 --> 1:19:57.200
<v Speaker 1>of my heart.

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<v Speaker 3>For doing it.

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<v Speaker 10>Thank y'all, brothers, man, for real, this is gon amazing

1:20:00.040 --> 1:20:03.280
<v Speaker 10>your town. Oh man, Like, just thank y'all for everything.

1:20:03.360 --> 1:20:04.439
<v Speaker 10>Thank you for the music for real.

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<v Speaker 1>Find Tickeolo and La Laser Hair Removal formerly known as.

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<v Speaker 8>Big Bill.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, we'll see you on the next go around

1:20:17.640 --> 1:20:19.600
<v Speaker 2>a quest Love Supreme on Quest Love sounding oft I

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<v Speaker 2>We'll see y'all next time.

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<v Speaker 8>Thank you. Hey, this is Sugar Steve.

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