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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation radio.

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Speaker 2: Rolling along here on the drive, and I messed up

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Speaker 2: the hour number two intro. Hold on, let me do

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Speaker 2: that again, Matt Will All right right, I'm just so

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Speaker 2: excited to get into this wide receiver conversation. I forgot

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Speaker 2: our standard operating procedure here, good evening, Stealer Nation, how

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Speaker 2: we doing well? That's good us too, That's good our

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Speaker 2: number two here of the drive, Matt, how do you

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Speaker 2: want to kick this thing off?

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Speaker 3: Here?

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Speaker 4: Are you know?

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Speaker 2: We we said yesterday that we would discuss candidates via

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Speaker 2: trade in the wide receiver market. I have a list

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Speaker 2: of about a ten or a dozen here. Do you

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Speaker 2: want me to read through these names? Do you want

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Speaker 2: to throw some names at me?

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Speaker 3: We don't need that list.

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Speaker 4: I love it. I love it.

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Speaker 3: We're just gonna go through every team and talk about

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Speaker 3: are there options? And this is how my mind work.

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Speaker 3: So I lay there in bed and I figure things out.

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Speaker 3: So I always start in the AFCs Buffalo bills. You

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Speaker 3: would immediately think no key on Colean, But I was

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Speaker 3: gonna say, let's not forget the Steelers hired the wide

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Speaker 3: receiver coach of the Buffalo Bills. Great call, and they

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Speaker 3: don't seem to be particularly thrilled with Keon Coleman. Now,

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Speaker 3: this is not an AJ Brown level trade where you've

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Speaker 3: got no more problems and you know you're loaded. But

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Speaker 3: if we're going to throw a late pick for somebody

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Speaker 3: the receivers coach worked with and maybe liked, then I

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Speaker 3: always thought he was more of a slot than an

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Speaker 3: outside guy. Maybe you want to use him a little

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Speaker 3: bit differently. These don't have to be first round forty

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Speaker 3: million dollar players, you know what I mean? Sure, so

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Speaker 3: I think he's noteworthy.

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Speaker 2: I think so too, especially the way they've kind of

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Speaker 2: thrown him under the bus in the offseason. Might be

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Speaker 3: So I just wanted to throw names out. I like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean these are that, and I'm sure our listeners

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Speaker 3: will be like, oh that names excited or you know whatever. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: all right, So if we stay in that division, Patriots,

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Speaker 3: I think there's nobody for.

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Speaker 4: The Patriots Jets, they're no less Scarrett Wilson.

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Speaker 3: But I don't think he's on the market.

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Speaker 4: Be their best player on their roster right now.

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Speaker 3: Right, I mean, maybe it would get to like trade

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Speaker 3: deadline time again when they dumped Quinnin Williams and Gardener

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Speaker 3: that they just are really selling off. But I don't

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Speaker 3: think so. He didn't really work and play well with

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Speaker 3: Rogers too. Weird reason to.

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Speaker 4: Detailed button up approach the Dolphins, Jaylen Waddle and Tyreek.

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Speaker 3: I mean he's on the roster, he's injured. I don't

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Speaker 3: think he'll be a Dolphin. I don't think he'll get traded.

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Speaker 3: I think he'll get cut. He's coming off a massive injury.

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Speaker 3: I don't think he's for the Steelers. But it's a

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Speaker 3: veteran name that's on a roster right now that I

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Speaker 3: think will move that people know.

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Speaker 4: You think he'll get cut or you think he'll be moved.

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Speaker 3: I think he'll get Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think he's just contract contract and he's thirty two right.

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Speaker 3: Wattle, I don't know if they'd move or not worth

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Speaker 3: talking about because there was a lot of rumors even

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Speaker 3: within the vision that the Bills and Dolphins had a

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Speaker 4: Interesting.

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Speaker 3: Interesting, and they should be in total rebuild.

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Speaker 2: They should be and he's only twenty seven. And part

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Speaker 2: of this conversation for me, Matt two is pairing with

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Speaker 2: DK metcalf right.

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Speaker 4: And I think he would.

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Speaker 2: Be a nice oh yeah, jelly to peanut, butter right

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Speaker 2: That's the type of partnership i'd be looking to form.

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Speaker 3: The problem and he's still be young. As you mentioned,

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Speaker 3: the problem is he's in a costume. Oh yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: you're not getting him for a second round pick. I

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Speaker 2: Don't think anyone's gonna trade anybody aside from the Bengals.

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Speaker 3: Told Bateman be on the move. He's been kind of,

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Speaker 3: not gonna trade the Steelers.

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Speaker 3: I think Judy could be had, but not that interesting.

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Speaker 3: I'm not interested, and I don't think they're in trade.

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Speaker 2: The Steelers yep AFC South Cults are interesting, Yes they are.

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Speaker 3: There's a chance they could bring back Piers, but even

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Speaker 3: if they don't, they might be able to might be

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Speaker 3: after Peers. But they did trade to Donnie Mitchell at

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Speaker 3: the trade deadlines. They're one fewer receiver than originally thought.

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Speaker 3: But I don't think that's crazy to be interested in

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Speaker 3: Jags Brian Thomas Jr. I think could get moved.

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Speaker 2: He's the one that comes along with AJ Brown. He's

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Speaker 2: the veteran guy that comes up on every single one

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Speaker 3: Yes, I mean just because they didn't use them properly.

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Speaker 3: We talked about that in the first segment. They did

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Speaker 3: give money to Myers. They got a ton invested in Hunter.

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Speaker 3: I don't know that he really fits this system. They

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Speaker 3: he's going to be a first or second round pick

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Speaker 3: third season at an awesome rookie year.

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Speaker 2: Maybe I should have set the stage asking you this first,

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Speaker 2: what would you be willing to part with in terms

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Speaker 3: Maybe let's just go through the name because if somebody,

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Speaker 4: I was gonna say they have some you'd be interested in,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're going to I don't think Nico you could

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Speaker 3: maybe something like that develops where they start talking contract

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Speaker 3: also already have a lot invested in DK. I mean,

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Speaker 3: do you want seventy million and two receivers? Probably not,

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Speaker 3: but I could paint the picture Titans. I think Ridley's

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Speaker 3: he may even be hitting free agency. We talked about

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Speaker 3: him already, so no.

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Speaker 4: He he has one more year left on his deal.

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Speaker 3: about him. But I'm not giving you anything for him.

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Speaker 4: No, I'd be interested if he was a free agent.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe a seventh round pick or something, but no,

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Speaker 2: I'd I'd rather take a crack on on free agency.

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Speaker 3: I don't think the Chargers of anybody, they would move Chief,

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Speaker 3: same Chief, same.

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Speaker 2: Raiders already did with Jacobe Myers, right, Bronco's Bronco is

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Speaker 2: gonna be looking to add.

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Speaker 3: Ye, I think they're looking to add. You go to

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Speaker 3: the NFC that covers the AFC, yeah, that covers the FC.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna start with the NFC East and a big

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Speaker 4: name a J.

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Speaker 3: Brown.

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Speaker 4: AJ Brown.

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Speaker 3: He worries me because I thought he declined a little

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Speaker 3: He's had several lower body injuries. You might be buying

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Speaker 3: a declining asset. And he's got a lot of money.

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Speaker 4: Oh doing, Yes, he does. He sure does.

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Speaker 3: Like I'm not giving a first him.

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Speaker 4: He has one, two, three, four more years left on

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Speaker 3: And they're massive cap pits.

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Speaker 4: They're all like twenty five thirty million dollars cap hits.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and can see. I think the Steelers are

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's some teams that could never pull us off.

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Speaker 3: a really deep wide receiver draft, and I'm definitely dipping

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Speaker 3: maybe not in the first round, especially if you trade

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Speaker 3: for a J. Brown, You're rocking your first und pack absolutely,

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm still drafting one in the fourth or whatever,

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Speaker 3: would lean away from Brown.

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Speaker 2: He's another one that if we're having this conversation last

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Speaker 2: year or a couple of years ago, I'd be very interested.

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Speaker 2: He'll be twenty nine this summer.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so him in Metcalf for teammates and all this.

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Speaker 3: But I also would rather stagger their ages.

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Speaker 2: I'd rather stagger ages and skill sets, body types.

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Speaker 3: Right, right, right, let's see here Washington, I think so no, No,

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Speaker 3: I mean mclaurin's not going anywhere.

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Speaker 2: Sizeable contract to right, and they need them Giants.

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Speaker 3: No, giants are a no. And I mean you can

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Speaker 3: get really far down the weeds. Maybe Slaton, but he

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Speaker 4: We're not in that market anymore. Uh NFC North, the

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Speaker 4: Chicago Bears, I think there's.

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Speaker 3: Gonna get traded or gonna get moved. They want burden

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Speaker 3: on the field, they want a dunes in the field.

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Speaker 3: They went the ball going to Loveland. He's got a contract,

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Speaker 3: they inherited him. He's not a great player anymore though either.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's good. Everybody would love to have him.

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Speaker 3: But it's kind of like a j Brown too, like

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Speaker 3: what are you buying it a career? Which makes me

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Speaker 3: think too, like these guys are making money and they're

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Speaker 3: give up less draft capital than you think.

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Speaker 4: That's a good point.

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Speaker 3: You might just get him for a third, you know,

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Speaker 3: They'd like Tesla, but not enough to move one of

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Speaker 3: South Godwin, I think you can get. Yeah. I was

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Speaker 2: I was looking at a earlier I was looking at

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Speaker 2: And for the Bucks, Patrick Queen was listed as one

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Speaker 3: Right if you're not gonna give Queen money after the year.

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Speaker 3: you can get Godwin with without Queen. That one would

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Speaker 4: Falcons snow. I wouldn't be interested in anyone else yet.

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Speaker 3: No, they like Coker too. He's not gonna he's cheap

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: See, here's what's going to happen. We had this conversation

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Speaker 3: But or they're going to cut him and you'll compete

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Speaker 3: Him and Shanahan have just never seen eye eye and

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Speaker 3: he was once great. Oh yeah, and I'm still using

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Speaker 4: I don't think so.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Seattle's a no. They're gonna be looking.

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Speaker 4: They're gonna be looking.

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Speaker 3: And what if I go one more Marvin Harrison Junia.

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Speaker 2: So what if the Cardinals called you up and said

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Speaker 3: No, but lightly less than that two and five? Okay,

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Speaker 4: No, he hasn't. He's he's been a disappointment.

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Speaker 3: He's been a disappointment. Now, I've often referenced reception, perception,

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Speaker 3: You already have your your field stretcher in Metcalf. Harrison's

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Speaker 2: Do you think he'd be a nice one of those

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Speaker 3: But I would use him more as a big power

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Speaker 3: like everyone, I thought he was a super prospect, but

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Speaker 3: I think we all overrated him a little coming.

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Speaker 4: Out of a part of that Ohio State and that fruit tree.

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Speaker 3: But just watching them move at the NFL level, it's

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Speaker 2: If you could do that, I'll say that I'll drive

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Speaker 2: Let's put this show, put the rest of it on replay.

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Speaker 2: We gotta we gotta a train to catch here to

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Speaker 3: I mean, they're totally rebuilding, and Michael Wilson came on

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Speaker 4: Maybe that's one that I would definitely, yeah, pick up

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Speaker 3: Yeah, without a doubt.

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Speaker 4: That was fun.

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Speaker 2: There's our wide receiver trade candidate's conversation, and that's something

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Speaker 2: we'll be keeping an eye on here. Once free agency

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Speaker 3: And these teams that are trading receivers know that it's

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Speaker 3: I'll just hold my pick and draft receiver one. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Right, So maybe it's a good time to.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe you can pluck one, to pluck one. I

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Speaker 2: When we come back, we'll have our daily draft discussion

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Speaker 2: right here on the Drive Steelers Nation Radio on the

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Speaker 2: Steelers Audio Network, your tuns.

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Speaker 1: About Drive on your twenty four to seven home of

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Speaker 1: the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Can I just say real quick, Matt, I'm like following

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Speaker 2: along with the live updates on you know some Mississippi newspapers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah about Trinidad and his his NCAA eligibility hearing.

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Speaker 4: Isn't it insane that this is the point that we're at.

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Speaker 3: It's gotten pretty crazy.

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Speaker 2: The first late in the process twenty nineteen. That season,

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Speaker 2: the twenty nineteen season was the one hundred and fiftieth

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Speaker 3: No, right man, right, Yeah, the first.

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Speaker 2: One hundred and twenty years of college football, we didn't

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Speaker 2: even have a national championship game. It took them one

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Speaker 2: maybe we should do champion. We should get the top

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Speaker 3: Right ship, I won the cotton ball, I won the

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Speaker 2: Mean it took him all the first one hundred and

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Speaker 4: These last five or six years. It's like it's like

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Speaker 2: That's interesting, Like it's it's just insane that we have

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Speaker 2: guys now and he's not the first one.

441
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Speaker 3: He won't be the last.

442
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Speaker 4: One that's like doing this type of thing. It's it's

443
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Speaker 4: just absolutely nuts. It is the wild West.

444
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Speaker 2: And I don't know if there's ever going to be

445
00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,480
Speaker 2: a perfect solution for any of it. No, I know,

446
00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:40,440
Speaker 2: but I would love to get to a point where,

447
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,600
Speaker 2: because this is what we're doing already, like where the

448
00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:47,479
Speaker 2: NFL almost kind of controls college just college football, not

449
00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,840
Speaker 2: the rest. Let the nc double A do everything else.

450
00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:53,800
Speaker 2: They don't control the college football postseason anyways. That's that's

451
00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:57,639
Speaker 2: run by ESPN and ABC and Disney and the SEC

452
00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:59,960
Speaker 2: and the Big Ten. Which that's a funny kind of

453
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Speaker 2: trivia quirk for you. Technically, there's never been an NCAA

454
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Speaker 2: A football champion because the NCAA, because the NCAA has

455
00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,960
Speaker 2: never crowned the football champions. It was the AP for

456
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:11,960
Speaker 2: so long, and then it was the BCS, and now

457
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:15,040
Speaker 2: it's it's not like March Madness, which is crowned by

458
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Speaker 2: the NC which is it's it's it's they've never controlled

459
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Speaker 2: the postseason in the National.

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Speaker 3: Champ Probably not.

461
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Speaker 4: That's a good question.

462
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Speaker 3: I don't know.

463
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Speaker 4: W has never won one, so I can't tell you.

464
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:29,280
Speaker 4: Hug it back to you later on that one nowhere, Matt.

465
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Speaker 2: With that, Bucky Brooks put out his top five prospects

466
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Speaker 2: at each position in the NFL Draft quarterback. I just

467
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Speaker 2: want to kind of continue to monitor these and kick

468
00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:43,280
Speaker 2: these around at like who's after Mendoza from he goes,

469
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Speaker 2: Tye Simpson two, Carson Beck three, NUS.

470
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Speaker 4: Four, Drew Hour five.

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Speaker 2: But with the caveat of let's wait and see this

472
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Speaker 2: NCAA eligibility hearing in Trinidad Chambliss, where he's gonna play

473
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Speaker 2: into this thing, I would be shocked if the only

474
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Speaker 2: I shouldn't say the only concern with him, because then

475
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Speaker 2: that makes it sound like he's a perfect prospect, which

476
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:05,960
Speaker 2: of course, but the.

477
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Speaker 4: Big thing with him is the size, the height.

478
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

479
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:10,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like the Bryce Young conversation.

480
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Speaker 3: That's the first check box you want to check one

481
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 3: one in one way or another.

482
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 2: And I okay, So as we say that out loud,

483
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:20,000
Speaker 2: the cynic in me is almost like does he want

484
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 2: to avoid the Senior Bowl in the combine so that

485
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Speaker 2: he doesn't have to do the official measurable things.

486
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Speaker 3: But then, I mean, everybody's gonna get it eventually grow,

487
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,440
Speaker 3: you know, right right, there's no way of avoiding that.

488
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Speaker 2: But that's the big concern with him. Everything else, there's

489
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,200
Speaker 2: a lot to like there. So yeah, yeah, that's interesting

490
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,880
Speaker 2: to me. Uh Carson Beckett three, though, I think that's

491
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Speaker 2: the first time I've seen Carson beck is QB three.

492
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Speaker 2: I've seen him as four and five, but I think

493
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Speaker 2: it's the first time i've seen him at QB three.

494
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Speaker 3: I guess I get it. Seems a little rich.

495
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:47,960
Speaker 4: Seems seems a little rich.

496
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think he's the shuck early second older.

497
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Speaker 4: Guy move he wide receivers.

498
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Speaker 2: Top five Jordan Tyson out of Arizona State one, Carnel

499
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Speaker 2: Tait two, Makay Lemon three.

500
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Speaker 4: Those are kind of the big three.

501
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, they seem to be their own tier. But I

502
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 3: don't think there's a big gap between Tier one and two.

503
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 2: Though I don't think there's a big gap, but I

504
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 2: think those three are kind of it's like the Mendoza conversation,

505
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,200
Speaker 2: Like those three are the three. And then I'm always

506
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,160
Speaker 2: interested to see where everybody else goes from there.

507
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:15,440
Speaker 3: Yeah.

508
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, Zacharia Branch out of Georgia four, Chris brasel out

509
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,200
Speaker 2: of Tennessee five for him.

510
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Speaker 3: Those aren't the names you usually see in the top.

511
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 3: It's not.

512
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:31,920
Speaker 2: Right Casey concept Shield, Yeah exactly, but that's Brasl's interesting

513
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:36,359
Speaker 2: because he's like six five, big boy, long strider.

514
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 3: You know, Tennessee runs like two routes. I mean, so

515
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 3: he's not a developed come out of your break, snap

516
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:46,160
Speaker 3: off an out route, but they don't make many six

517
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Speaker 3: five pounds that might run a four to three eighth

518
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:50,639
Speaker 3: or whatever.

519
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 2: And then Zachari Branch is an interesting one to me

520
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,919
Speaker 2: because he in the conversation that you and I had,

521
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 2: I can't remember it was last week at some point

522
00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 2: in the last few weeks. He's kind of the you

523
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 2: laid out the NFL now, the Edelmans and the Whelkers. Yeah,

524
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 2: the Tyler Lockett's like the slot specialists six foot ye

525
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 2: kind of going the way the Dodo bird.

526
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Speaker 3: A little little bit, and I think that's what he is. Oh,

527
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 3: he definitely and I know size he's listed at five

528
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 3: to ten, but he's also thinner.

529
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Speaker 4: He might be five to ten, like if he's wearing

530
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 4: a pair of winter boots.

531
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Speaker 3: Now I don't know this exactly, but his average depth

532
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 3: of target despite being supposedly very fast, Oh, he is

533
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Speaker 3: very fast. I mean he's not a sluggish little guy.

534
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 3: But they throwing the ball like ating behind the line

535
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 3: of scrimmage all the time, you know, like they don't

536
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,160
Speaker 3: even get him downfield at times.

537
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Speaker 2: It's a lot reminds me of when we discussed Luthor

538
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,199
Speaker 2: Burden coming out of Missouri last year. Yeah, it's like

539
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Speaker 2: I really like the prospect, but I'd like to see

540
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,399
Speaker 2: him with more of a route tree yeah, and a

541
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:55,440
Speaker 2: more NFL style offense, like Missouri was doing a lot

542
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 2: of like just throwing the ball in the backfield and trying.

543
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Speaker 3: To make protect So like how can we get our

544
00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 3: good play or the ball? You know, And in this case,

545
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 3: I'm sure Georgio is better equipped, but it was get

546
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,160
Speaker 3: the little guy out in space and see what happens.

547
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,199
Speaker 3: But there's there's not a ton to go off of

548
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:11,679
Speaker 3: route tree stuff.

549
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 2: That's it's a very wide receiver is going to every

550
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,879
Speaker 2: year now, it is because these classes are just every

551
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,440
Speaker 2: year there's eight, nine, ten wide receivers that that are.

552
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:23,639
Speaker 2: You could see that guy walking onto a field and

553
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:24,639
Speaker 2: having an instant impact.

554
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean George Pickens was the ninth wide receiver

555
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 4: drafted in his draft class.

556
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Speaker 3: This class seems to have a lot of size too,

557
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:32,920
Speaker 3: so I don't think you have to take the little

558
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 3: guy necessarily.

559
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 2: Has a lot of size, has a lot of depth,

560
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,679
Speaker 2: doesn't have that true kind of number one bonifid that

561
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:39,639
Speaker 2: we've talked about, but a lot to like.

562
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 3: There'll be a lot of highly productive ones all this class.

563
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 4: Ones without a doubt, without a doubt, no doubt.

564
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Speaker 2: And then the last thing that kind of caught my

565
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:51,920
Speaker 2: mind is his top five tight ends. Kenyon Sadik number one, duh,

566
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Speaker 2: he might be a top twenty prospect overall. Max Clair

567
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 2: out of Ohio State two, Dollin Bentley out of Utah.

568
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 4: Three he he's an interesting one.

569
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 2: Joe Royer number four out of Cincinnati, and five Eli

570
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 2: Stowers out of Vanderbilt. I think Eli Stowers should be

571
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 2: higher on that list. I'm also shocked he doesn't have

572
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 2: Michael Trigg in his top five tight ends.

573
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,640
Speaker 3: Ye, which I don't understand either.

574
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 4: He's a freak and he has off the field stuff.

575
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 2: He started his career at USC and then transferred to

576
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 2: Old Miss and then finished at Baylor, and hey, that's

577
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 2: not crazy uncommon in the total era, but a lot

578
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 2: of his was more issues and yeah yeah, yeah, legal

579
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:35,400
Speaker 2: stuff and team stuff and late to meetings and practices and.

580
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,920
Speaker 3: Kind of maturity or.

581
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 2: And getting kicked off the team type stuff. But if

582
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 2: you take that away.

583
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,719
Speaker 4: I mean he is as a prospect for freak.

584
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 2: He's six five, two hundred and forty pounds, runs like

585
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 2: a stallion, like I mean, he's he might be a

586
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 2: better version of Darnell Washington, you know what I mean,

587
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 2: Like he could be Darnell Washington, but with.

588
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 4: More athletic Yeah, yeah, so I don't I.

589
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,200
Speaker 3: Just wonder if Bucky's here and stuff off the field,

590
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:00,879
Speaker 3: which wouldn't know.

591
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 2: Which would't WHI wouldn't shock me because you know, I've

592
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 2: heard some of that stuff and I'm not Bucky Brooks the.

593
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 3: Former scout and dialed in with you know, NFL network,

594
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:10,199
Speaker 3: So maybe that's it.

595
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 4: Concerns. I'd have a hard time not putting him in

596
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 4: my top five tight ends. I think he might be

597
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 4: a top one.

598
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,159
Speaker 2: Hundred player prospect, is yeah, I think he might be

599
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 2: a top one hundred player in this draft.

600
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 3: Let let alone, you know.

601
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 2: Just positional rankings and and all of those things. But

602
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 2: those were just some some little tidbit. Yeah, that caught

603
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 2: my eye from from Bucky's latest top five at each

604
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 2: each position he has Peter Woods defensive tackles, another one

605
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 2: I kind of been keeping an eye on. I'd love

606
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 2: to nab a guy there that we don't see coming.

607
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 3: There's a lot of those too.

608
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 2: Peter Woods number one out of Clemson, he's he's a stud.

609
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 2: Caleb Banks out of Florida, the big boy that we

610
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 2: got to have Max on to talk about at some point,

611
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 2: number two, and then Lee Hunter out of Texas Tech,

612
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 2: who I think might be the diamond in the rough

613
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 2: of of this Trench's class at number three.

614
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 3: None of those guys is like the Quinn Williams coming

615
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 3: out of school to take a top five to eight pick,

616
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 3: but they're all have bring a lot to the table

617
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 3: and a lot of injury.

618
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 2: They could be a Steffan to it where maybe a

619
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 2: year or two into their career, everyone's like, how.

620
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 4: Did this guy last until the second round?

621
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, yeah, I think should be very involved

622
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 3: in that shop.

623
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 4: You know, and then he has Ruben Bain ranked ahead

624
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 4: of David Bailey. That's what I'm keeping an eye on.

625
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:22,719
Speaker 3: Two.

626
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 2: Those are kind of the consensus one two edge rushers.

627
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 2: But how does everybody rank them? He goes Ruben Bain one,

628
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 2: David Bailey two. Yeah, those were kind of just some

629
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 2: of the things that are in our daily draft discussion.

630
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 2: He does have Kyle Lewis listed as the number two

631
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:41,719
Speaker 2: safety behind Caleb Downs, so he's got all into Kyle Lewis.

632
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 3: I've seen anybody put him in that bucket.

633
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 4: But that makes sense to me.

634
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's his I mean, I think he can

635
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 2: really excel is.

636
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 3: Off the ball line.

637
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 4: One of those yeah, one of those kind of just

638
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 4: sub package center pieces.

639
00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 3: Modern day.

640
00:29:58,280 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 2: I don't think he has the body frame to be

641
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 2: a true off ball linebacker every down guy, but.

642
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 3: I assume that. I wonder what he works out, what

643
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 3: group he works out with at the Combine.

644
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 2: So you know, that's a good question, and our buddy

645
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 2: Bob Labriola sent us the official combine list.

646
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 4: Let me, I'm not sure if I can find this.

647
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 2: I can find this real quick if you if you

648
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 2: just give me a second, I actually have it right.

649
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 3: Here here's someone also pronounced that Louis not Lewis French.

650
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 2: Chris Carter told me Kyle Lewis, and he's any pit people.

651
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 2: Oh kaya, Louis, he's the starting striker for the French

652
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 2: socker team the upcoming World Cup.

653
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 4: Oh wait, Labs's list to me only had offensive players,

654
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 4: not any defensive coyers on there.

655
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm not sure where how they Maybe they

656
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 2: have him as both here like I got the list

657
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 2: here on the.

658
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 3: And some of those guys they asked a cross train too,

659
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 3: like you know, like the Steeler three four outside linebackers

660
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Speaker 3: will drop and do something.

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Speaker 2: They have him listed at linebacker for the combine. That's fine,

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Speaker 2: That doesn't mean he's penciled in there has to be there.

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Speaker 3: It might be marked for him too, because if he

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Speaker 3: runs and jumps and tests better than all the heavier

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Speaker 3: guys as opposed to runs and tests and jumps than

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Speaker 3: all the lighter guys.

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Speaker 2: You look better, you know, spoken like somebody who has

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Speaker 2: a true background in.

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Speaker 4: This sunting world.

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Speaker 3: I tell you a little tricks.

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Speaker 4: One more segment to go on the other side.

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Speaker 2: When we return, we will close down with your tweets

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Speaker 2: as we have been doing for the last couple weeks

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Speaker 2: and we'll continue to do throughout the offseason. You know

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Speaker 2: where to get at us if you want to get involved.

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Speaker 2: One more segment to go here on the Drive on

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Speaker 2: this Thursday, Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network.

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Speaker 1: Your tunes about Drive on your twenty four to seven

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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Final segment here of the Drive on this Thursday, as

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Speaker 2: we get closer to the end of the week and

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Speaker 2: we close down as always with some of your tweets

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Speaker 2: here your question, comments, concerns, reactions, participation. You can always

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Speaker 2: get at us at wesle Yuler at Williamson NFL is

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Speaker 2: where we can be found on the ex Twitter. One

686
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 2: guy who tweets us regularly listens to the show regularly.

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00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 2: I know he comments on some of your YouTube stuff too.

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Speaker 2: Michael Edessio.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he's a good dude.

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Speaker 2: I think we've met him a couple of times a

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Speaker 2: training camp before and always asks good questions and this

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Speaker 2: was an interesting one that I think think pairs well

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Speaker 2: with We've had a decent amount of wide receiver conversation

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Speaker 2: on on this show this week, and I think this

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Speaker 2: fits with some of the conversation very well, And honestly,

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Speaker 2: I'll give Michael a bit of a tip of the

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Speaker 2: cat because this is something I should have probably thought

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Speaker 2: of to discuss at some point, He says, Guys, in

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Speaker 2: the relation to the ongoing wide receiver's discussion, if Aaron

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Speaker 2: Rodgers does return and he goes and you know in

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Speaker 2: parentheses big if yeh, knowing kind of his attitude and

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Speaker 2: disdain at time for young wide receivers, would that change

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Speaker 2: stop projecting the Steelers to use early draft capital on

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Speaker 2: wide receivers, multiple rookie wide receivers, and look at free

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00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 2: agency anymore. I'm not saying that's what I want them

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Speaker 2: to do, nor am I saying that's what Omar will do.

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Speaker 2: But I think it's something to consider. You know, look

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Speaker 2: at all the vets that Aaron Rodgers has preferred last

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Speaker 2: year and through his career at wide receiver.

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Speaker 4: That's a very interesting point by Michael.

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Speaker 3: It is, and I guess it would have some influence.

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Speaker 3: It wouldn't change my tune at all about landing some

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Speaker 3: sort of prominent free agent. Doesn't mean to break the

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Speaker 3: bank free agent, but somebody that we've all heard of,

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Speaker 3: you know that it's in fantasy leagues or whatever they

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Speaker 3: kind of sum it up and still using draft capital.

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Speaker 3: Because I do want to stagger the ages of your

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Speaker 3: top three guys.

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Speaker 2: I think that's important every position group. Yeah, but maybe

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Speaker 2: the ones like wide receiver in defensive back where athleticism

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Speaker 2: is paramounts.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I'm all hitting the way and that's

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Speaker 3: fall at the same time, or being up for free

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Speaker 3: agency at the same time, or being expensive at the

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Speaker 3: same time.

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Speaker 4: Like, that's not kid ourselves.

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Speaker 2: There's not going to be someone Cam Hayward's agent wide

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Speaker 2: receiver that's doing Cam Haywards.

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Speaker 4: At his position in the league at thirty eight years old.

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Speaker 3: That's just that's not happened, right, So, and I also

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Speaker 3: think you have to think big picture, Like I know

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Speaker 3: that every year you're trying to win the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 3: but if you do still use a first round receiver

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Speaker 3: or pick on a receiver, Rogers isn't good. At most,

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Speaker 3: you're getting him one more year. I mean, we're not

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Speaker 3: going to have this conversation yet again next year about

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Speaker 3: Rogers and who he likes and all that. It's going

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Speaker 3: to be some other quarterback, hopefully somebody that's a year younger.

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Speaker 3: Than your first round pick this year wide receiver and

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Speaker 3: they can grow up together. You know what I mean,

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Speaker 3: Archer cellars or whatever. You know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: I think it's a very interesting conversation point there by Michael.

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Speaker 2: But I get back to what you're saying. You cannot

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Speaker 2: if Aaron Rodgers returns for let's what we all know

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Speaker 2: would be the final Tour.

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Speaker 3: It'd have to be right and not like the.

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Speaker 2: Kiss or Elton John final tours where they said like

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Speaker 2: seven different times that it was the final Tour. This

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Speaker 2: is the final Tour. You can't let him dictate your

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Speaker 2: roster that much. No, you just can't.

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Speaker 3: You can't.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna be there for six months and then he's

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Speaker 2: gonna be gone.

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Speaker 3: Right, if he was the best quarterback in the league

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Speaker 3: and you thought you could win it all and you're

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Speaker 3: pushing your chips in, that's different. That doesn't mean they

757
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Speaker 3: can't win it all next year if he were to

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Speaker 3: come back. But you can't look at it like we're

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Speaker 3: going to mortgage the future just to get him Marcus

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Speaker 3: Valdez scanty, or.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna make a bunch of decisions just to make

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Speaker 2: him happy when he's on We're basically leasing him for

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Speaker 2: the next few months right right now.

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Speaker 4: There could be a middle ground there.

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Speaker 3: I think there would be where.

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Speaker 2: They'll say, we'll get you a veteran wide receiver or

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Speaker 2: two in free agency, but we're still going to bring

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Speaker 2: in some young guys that are gonna be significant parts

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Speaker 2: of this offense.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and we want them to learn from you. Erin,

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Speaker 3: I run the routes and we're be in the right

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Speaker 3: spot because they're gonna help coach up to the quarterback

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Speaker 3: and yeah, and all that entire dynamic and relationship.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that has to be a big part of the

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Speaker 2: conversation ahead of his potential return.

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Speaker 4: I would think already.

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Speaker 2: We know the leadership mentorship of Will Howard and the

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Speaker 2: potential for insert another name there, But I think that

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Speaker 2: has to apply to the entire offense, all the skill

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Speaker 2: position players.

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Speaker 3: And he was helpful to Zach Frasier.

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Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, absolutely absolutely.

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Speaker 2: R J tweets us and says, if Kenny g ends

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Speaker 2: up leaving in free agency, what would you guys do

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Speaker 2: or how would you view that room? Caleb Johnson feels

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Speaker 2: like the ultimate unknown incomplete with this new.

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Speaker 4: Coaching staff, you'd have to address it. I mean yeah,

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Speaker 4: you cannot go with with Jalen Warren and Caleb Johnson

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Speaker 4: as you're one and two.

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Speaker 3: No, not even a chance.

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Speaker 2: And that's that's not a jay and warn as you're one,

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Speaker 2: you can do that. You can't go with Caleb Johnson

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Speaker 2: as your two.

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Speaker 3: I mean I'm worried if you resigned game well to

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Speaker 3: go with just those three. I mean, I won four

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Speaker 3: guys I can count on at that position they get

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Speaker 3: hurt and well, not four guys. I can count on

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Speaker 3: four options because Johnson you can't count on.

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Speaker 4: I mean that no, I think even if.

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Speaker 3: And you won't know the answer until you get the camp,

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Speaker 3: and that's too late to go get a running.

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Speaker 2: Back, even if new even if new offensive line coaches,

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Speaker 2: new running back coach, Mike McCarthy, Brian Angelico.

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Speaker 4: They all go. I love Caleb Johnson.

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Speaker 2: I think he was totally miscast totally misused last year.

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00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 2: I still think you need a insurance piece, whatever you

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Speaker 2: want to call it, another body. And that's also that's

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00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 2: a physically demanding position too, where you know guys are

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Speaker 2: going to get beat up and miss timed.

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Speaker 3: They're gonna right. I mean, it wouldn't shock me no

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Speaker 3: matter what they use like a fifth round pick on

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Speaker 3: a running that.

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Speaker 2: Was gonna be my next get. My next question was,

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Speaker 2: do you go to that well again in the draft

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Speaker 2: you try and nab somebody on the cheap, proven backup

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Speaker 2: and free agency. I guess it could be both.

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Speaker 3: It could be both. I have mixed feelings on game

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Speaker 3: Well too, Like I could see him trying to outprice himself,

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Speaker 3: which I wouldn't blame him, and maybe somebody would jump

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Speaker 3: on it, but I would kind of have a cap

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Speaker 3: in terms of spending limit with him too. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I think the world would go round without him, but

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Speaker 3: he was a really successful, important part of this last team.

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Speaker 3: But Johnson, to me, there's guys like Johnson and Roman

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Speaker 3: Wilson and to a greater degree like Corey Trice, where

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Speaker 3: I'm real happy that they're Steelers. Well I wish they

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Speaker 3: had already hit and they were stars, but I mean

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Speaker 3: they are Steelers folks, and they're not going anywhere. But

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Speaker 3: I don't know how you can count on them. I mean,

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Speaker 3: like they might come to camp and be great, they

831
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Speaker 3: might not make the team, you know, and there's a

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Speaker 3: wide range, so they're real like cherry on the top

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Speaker 3: guys for me whenever I team build, like I almost

834
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Speaker 3: team build as if they don't exist.

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Speaker 2: That's a good that's a good way to frame it. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: thing out of them, it's awesome.

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Speaker 3: But if I'm counting on them and they let me down,

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Speaker 3: well then shame on me.

839
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 2: If you end up looking at them a few weeks

840
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:22,359
Speaker 2: into the season and you go ooh, you're the rug

841
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 2: that's really tying this whole thing together.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, great, right now, I got it an extra But

843
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 3: they better not.

844
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Speaker 4: Be your sofa and your flat screen TV.

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Speaker 3: Yeah right, right right. I mean, I think you have

846
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 3: to look at those guys like, man, if we get

847
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,359
Speaker 3: something out of them, that's great, because we might there

848
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 3: was something we liked one day, but the count on

849
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Speaker 3: them is part of the foundation of the house.

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Speaker 4: No, no, it's absolutely the right way to frame it.

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Speaker 2: We got a few tweets so since we started the

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00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 2: show today, Matt, the Steelers have finalized their twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: six coaching staff. We're not gonna jump into that now

854
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,320
Speaker 2: because we're gonna do some We're gonna do some reading

855
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Speaker 2: and some research and we'll have a whole segment on

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00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 2: that on that tomorrow on on Friday's show, We've gotten

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Speaker 2: a bunch of tweets.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 4: Matt tweeted us.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to trying to look at everybody here, Matt

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Speaker 2: tweeted us. Brad tweeted us, Tom tweeted us. I think

862
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Speaker 2: even one or two more, Christopher and Matthew. I don't

863
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:19,760
Speaker 2: need to read through all these names, but just thoughts

864
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 2: on this coaching staff. How does it compare to Mike Tomlins?

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Speaker 2: Is it bigger, is it smaller? All this stuff We

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Speaker 2: will get into all of that tomorrowkay, Okay, So because

867
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Speaker 2: I want to have more time to really look into Yes.

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Speaker 3: It's similar. They didn't have They don't have six more

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Speaker 3: spots than they did or anything.

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Speaker 2: But yes, but I will tell you this. The previously

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Speaker 2: unannounced hires, Okay, because we've covered the vast majority in

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Speaker 2: the Brian Angelico's and Patrick.

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Speaker 3: Grant talk to them knowledge.

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Speaker 4: Yes, a lot of Wikipedia scouting.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: A couple unannounced hires that were included in today's announcement.

877
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Speaker 2: Robert Kugler as tight ends coach. We had discussed him

878
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Speaker 2: very briefly.

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Speaker 3: Say his name came up, yeah, but.

880
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 2: He had never really gone past We had never gotten

881
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 2: an official report like he had heard that he was

882
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,959
Speaker 2: in the in the conversation a front runner but hadn't

883
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 2: gotten official report. So Robert Kugler tight ends game management

884
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 2: and assistant quarterbacks coach Tim Burbench believe pronounce.

885
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 3: That there's a game management coach. It already.

886
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 2: It already looks like this staff is a little bit

887
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 2: bigger than Tomlins.

888
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 3: And again, there wasn't a game management guy last year, right, and.

889
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 2: The coordinator and some of these things that they didn't

890
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:35,760
Speaker 2: have in the past. So those two strength and conditioning

891
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 2: assistant Abe money Er, I believe it's how he pronounced

892
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 2: his last name, and uh one additional retention strength and

893
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 2: conditioning assistant Justice Gallic So three new previously unannounced hires

894
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 2: there tight ends game management and quarterback assistant and strength

895
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 2: and conditioning assistant.

896
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,840
Speaker 3: So I would bet the staff is several people lark.

897
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:02,799
Speaker 2: It sounds like it is. I'm kind of piecing that

898
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 2: together in my head. But like I said, give you,

899
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 2: give us tonight to really piece this thing together and

900
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 2: and we'll have more concrete a discussion and information on

901
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 2: that tomorrow. Frankie z tweets us a mock draft input

902
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 2: question here. I don't know why, am I burping all

903
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 2: of a sudden, like this coffee's hitting me.

904
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:23,839
Speaker 4: How will we feel about this?

905
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 2: If the Steelers went Peter Woods, defensive lineman who we

906
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 2: just discussed out of Clemson at pick twenty one, Malachi

907
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 2: Fields in the second round, wide receiver out of Notre

908
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 2: Dame at pick fifty three.

909
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 3: Sign me up for Field to fifty three all day long, and.

910
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 4: I tell you Peter Woods at twenty one.

911
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I know, I don't know a problem

912
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:41,919
Speaker 3: with that.

913
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 2: That'd be like kind of the tackle thing that you

914
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,879
Speaker 2: did with Broderick and Faltanu and going back to back

915
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 2: at you know, not the exact same position, but you know,

916
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:54,240
Speaker 2: you just went with an interior defensive lineman with Harmon

917
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 2: last year. But if Peter Woods was available at twenty one,

918
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 2: I would not hate that at all. No.

919
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 3: I bet he tests a well in Indy. I bet

920
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 3: his stock stars rise in a little bit.

921
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 2: He's one of those you remember the conversation though, when

922
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 2: the Steelers drafted Cam Hayward at pick thirty one, they

923
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 2: had him ranked like sixteenth on their big board. Oh sure, sure,

924
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 2: And it wasn't a priority that year, but it was like,

925
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:17,879
Speaker 2: how we're picked thirty one.

926
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 4: We have this guy sixteen we have to take. You

927
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 4: have to take him, right, it could be guy, It

928
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 4: could be one of those like we've got Peter Woods

929
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 4: as a top fifteen player in this entire draft, and

930
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 4: he's available at pick twenty one.

931
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 2: We're gonna take them. I would, I'm not I'm not

932
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 2: quite yet at saying I would. I would sign up

933
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 2: for that right now, but I think there's a good

934
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 2: chance that by the time we get into March in

935
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 2: April that I would.

936
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 3: Be pretty happy.

937
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 2: I would say Malechi Fields at fifty three and Peter

938
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 2: Woods at twenty one.

939
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll trade.

940
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 3: I think I would take Fields at fifty three right now.

941
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 3: I think so, yeah, but that would preclude then you

942
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 3: couldn't take one in the first round. Yeah. Right, It's

943
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 3: not the world worse, but I mean right, yeah.

944
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:55,879
Speaker 2: But yeah, if you could get you know, Woods, who

945
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 2: might be a top fifteen prospect at twenty one, Fields

946
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 2: who might be a top forty prospect at fifty three.

947
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 3: I know it's a long time ago, but before his

948
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 3: final year at Clemson, Woods was projected as like a

949
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 3: top five guy in this draft. Yeah, he all forget that.

950
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, if this was like a way too early power

951
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:14,359
Speaker 2: ranking set. Oh, he would have been a top ten.

952
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 2: He would have been on top ten on everybody.

953
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 3: Hi, everybody board. Yeah, had kind of a disapointing season

954
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 3: as all the Clemson.

955
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 2: Got the last one. David tweets us and said, did

956
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 2: you guys see your girl? Cynthia Freeland's most recent mock

957
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 2: draft today, very interesting pick for the Steelers at twenty

958
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 2: one with the eye emojis, so I pulled it up. Okay,

959
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:32,800
Speaker 2: Cynthia Freeland.

960
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 3: She always does this from a statistical analytical standpoint.

961
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 2: She has a pick twenty one the Pittsburgh Steelers, selecting

962
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,959
Speaker 2: Jeremiah Love, running back out of Notre Dame.

963
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 3: Wow. I don't think he'll get there.

964
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 4: I would be shocked if he got there.

965
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:49,399
Speaker 3: Yeah.

966
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 2: I know running backs and the value and all that,

967
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:55,240
Speaker 2: but he is. He might be a top three player

968
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 2: in this draft.

969
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,240
Speaker 3: It's funny he said that because on our show today

970
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 3: I was asked, not who are the best value prospects?

971
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 3: Mendoza is the top prospect in the draft, but who

972
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:13,800
Speaker 3: are the best players? And I went Love at three

973
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 3: behind two Ohio State dudes. And that's what I mean.

974
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 2: Dame Brugler had him at three. Yeah, I think of

975
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 2: all the just the big boards, not the mock.

976
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 3: Draft big boards, who's the best play.

977
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 2: I haven't seen him outside of the top ten yet, right, right, right,

978
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 2: And most of the time he's been in the top five.

979
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 2: Like there's a couple that have him at seven or eight,

980
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 2: and most of the time he's been in the top five. Yeah,

981
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:37,280
Speaker 2: So that'd be a that would be a very interesting

982
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 2: I mean, that would be the true best player available situation.

983
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:44,799
Speaker 3: He needs explosives, he needs explosives and dripping with explosive

984
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 3: play rate. Yeah.

985
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 2: And part of her reasoning was the past game. She

986
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 2: feels like, we'll improve under McCarthy. It's a top ten

987
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,839
Speaker 2: offensive line in the NFL, and it'd be a great

988
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 2: landing spot for him to kind of plug in and

989
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:00,040
Speaker 2: have an instant impact running back, you know, rookie.

990
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:02,320
Speaker 3: Ce Like at that point, I mean, obviously Gainwell wouldn't

991
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 3: have been the mix, you know, which you'd have to

992
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 3: make that decision first. Yes, if he weren't, he'd be

993
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 3: a much better version of Gamewell, I mean, receiving back

994
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:11,280
Speaker 3: and all that.

995
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 4: That would be one of those ultimate wild cards of like, yeah,

996
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 4: it's just too good to pass off, you've got him

997
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 4: third or fourth on your big board, and he's there

998
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,280
Speaker 4: at pick twenty one. I know it's running back.

999
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,320
Speaker 3: Right right, and that's a reason it's even a conversation.

1000
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 2: But you know what becomes very interesting for me and

1001
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 2: I I'm surprised that this wasn't pointed out in the

1002
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 2: in the tweet as well. This makes it even more

1003
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 2: of a debate, is at pick twenty two, right behind

1004
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 2: Jeremiah Love, she has Jordan Tyson, the Arizona state wide receiver,

1005
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 2: going to the Chargers.

1006
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 3: Oh, I'd probably take Tyson.

1007
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 2: If it was Tyson and Jeremiah Love both on the

1008
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 2: board and I get to make the pick, I think

1009
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:48,319
Speaker 2: I would take to He's my wide receiver number one. Yeah,

1010
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 2: so if I could get him at pick twenty one,

1011
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 2: I'd be doing jumping jacks.

1012
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:54,919
Speaker 3: Unless the receiver was somehow the need was gone, yeah,

1013
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 3: like you made a trade and sign somebody.

1014
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:58,799
Speaker 2: Like there was only one or two off the board

1015
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 2: at that point, and you're looking at it and you're going, hey,

1016
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 2: there's going to be a really good receiver at fifty three.

1017
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 3: That so we could take.

1018
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 2: Jeremiah Love here and then we can go and get

1019
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 2: a really Good just get playmakers all over the place.

1020
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 3: I can.

1021
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 2: That would be a fun Would you rather Jeremiah Love

1022
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 2: or Jordan Tyson if they were both available at pick

1023
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 2: twenty one, I'd be I'd be running to the podium

1024
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 2: to draft both.

1025
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 4: I think I would lean Tyson. But that's a that's a.

1026
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 3: Very, very problem.

1027
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 2: That would be a wonderful problem to have. Matt Good

1028
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 2: Show today had a lot of fun, touched on a

1029
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 2: lot of different stuff. Tomorrow on the program we will

1030
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 2: have a full roll out Steelers finalized twenty twenty six

1031
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 2: coaching staff. I also want to uh do some.

1032
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:44,720
Speaker 3: I turned in my first mock.

1033
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 2: I was gonna sayte and I wanted to wait till

1034
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 2: that got released by the.

1035
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 3: Steelers or Max and I each did one.

1036
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 2: And also we have the I think most people know

1037
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 2: by now, But the Football, which is an NFL Films

1038
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 2: documentary on football in Pittsburgh, is coming out at the

1039
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 2: end of this month February twenty eighth.

1040
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 4: Actually it gets released.

1041
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:12,800
Speaker 2: That one of the hosts on this show's birthday February

1042
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:17,879
Speaker 2: twenty eighth. Oh, the director of that, Leo McCafferty, who

1043
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 2: is a Pittsburgh guy. He works for NFL Films now

1044
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 2: worked for the Penns in the past, worked for the

1045
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 2: Steelers once upon a time as an intern back in

1046
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 2: the day. He directed this Football Town NFL Films thing,

1047
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:31,840
Speaker 2: and he's going to join us on the phone tomorrow

1048
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 2: just to kind of talk about it and pump up

1049
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 2: this really cool NFL film. Oh yeah, NFL Films documentary

1050
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 2: on just the football lineage and history and love here

1051
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 2: in western Pennsylvania. So we'll have a lot of fun

1052
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 2: doing all of that and more tomorrow. Big thanks to

1053
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,720
Speaker 2: Nate Dogg on the ones and twos as always, mister

1054
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 2: TV Tyler V on the YouTube video side of things

1055
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,320
Speaker 2: for Matt Williams, and I'm Wesheiler. Take care everybody. We

1056
00:48:57,360 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 2: will talk to you tomorrow. As always, you know where

1057
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 2: to find us on your tour. Twenty four seven Home

1058
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Speaker 2: of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio