WEBVTT - Ep03 - Ewan McGregor / "American Pastoral" 0:00:22.480 --> 0:00:25.880 Welcome to Playback, a variety podcast. On today's show, we're 0:00:25.920 --> 0:00:28.680 talking about standouts from the Toronto Film Festival and what 0:00:28.760 --> 0:00:31.440 movies might win the coveted People's Choice Award. There a 0:00:31.480 --> 0:00:33.599 little bit later, I'll be talking to you and McGregor 0:00:33.600 --> 0:00:37.360 about his directorial debut, American Pastoral, which premiered in Toronto 0:00:37.520 --> 0:00:51.279 last week. So stick around. Okay, hello everyone, I'm here 0:00:51.280 --> 0:00:54.920 with Janelle Riley, who was fresh back from Toronto. Not fresh. 0:00:55.040 --> 0:00:59.040 I'm exhausted. I looked out. I didn't have to go 0:00:59.680 --> 0:01:02.520 I of Toronto, but it is literally I yet. Last 0:01:02.640 --> 0:01:05.920 night I hit that point where my eyes were pounding 0:01:06.040 --> 0:01:09.040 from exhaustion. I was just so tired. But you know, 0:01:09.200 --> 0:01:12.480 champagne problems totally. When you saw some good movies, I did, 0:01:13.240 --> 0:01:15.520 what's your favorite? When you saw Boy, That's a tough one. 0:01:15.520 --> 0:01:17.440 I mean, there is really a three way race in 0:01:17.520 --> 0:01:20.399 my heart between La La Land, Moonlight, and Nocturnal Animals. 0:01:20.720 --> 0:01:23.800 Nocturnal Animals was probably the biggest surprise. I loved tom 0:01:23.880 --> 0:01:26.840 Ford single Man. It's been seven years and I've been 0:01:26.880 --> 0:01:31.800 waiting for his follow up movie. Yeah. Uh. And by 0:01:31.840 --> 0:01:33.160 the way, after I saw the movie, I went and 0:01:33.160 --> 0:01:36.399 purchased some tom Ford makeup and it's fantastic. Um So 0:01:36.440 --> 0:01:38.759 if they want to send me anything free. Yeah, I'm 0:01:38.800 --> 0:01:40.800 sitting here wondering what kind of a plug that was. 0:01:41.120 --> 0:01:43.399 I just didn't intend to. I was like, everyone looked 0:01:43.440 --> 0:01:45.920 so good in Nocturnal Animals, and then I found out 0:01:45.920 --> 0:01:47.160 he had a makeup line, and I was at the 0:01:47.200 --> 0:01:48.640 department store and I just I was like, I want 0:01:48.640 --> 0:01:52.000 to look like Amy Adams, which is pretty much true 0:01:52.000 --> 0:01:54.720 of any movie, but but specifically in this movie, it 0:01:54.760 --> 0:01:58.200 looks fantastic. I feel like, sometimes you feel like there's 0:01:58.200 --> 0:02:00.640 a movie that was just sort of made for you, 0:02:00.640 --> 0:02:03.840 you know, and Nocturnal Animals just just checked off all 0:02:03.880 --> 0:02:06.880 my boxes. Um let alone. Actually, I think the first 0:02:06.920 --> 0:02:09.360 time I really got to know you, we bonded over 0:02:09.400 --> 0:02:12.200 our mutual love of Michael Shannon. Of course, he's the best. 0:02:12.280 --> 0:02:14.480 He showed up at his premiere or wherever he was 0:02:14.520 --> 0:02:16.760 with his Hawaiian shirt. Did you see the photos? Oh? Yes, 0:02:16.800 --> 0:02:19.560 you should see what he wore to our studio. It's awesome. Yeah. No, 0:02:19.720 --> 0:02:23.679 he's the best and will finally get an Oscar nomination 0:02:23.720 --> 0:02:27.240 for Best Supporting Actor since I guess Revolutionary Road was 0:02:27.280 --> 0:02:30.080 his last Domination should have been nominated last year, left 0:02:30.120 --> 0:02:33.480 over from last year, and it's a fantastic performance. Yeah. Here, 0:02:33.600 --> 0:02:35.520 I haven't seen the film yet, but I do hear 0:02:35.560 --> 0:02:39.600 he steals his scenes so as only he can. But 0:02:39.720 --> 0:02:41.639 regarding Amy, I mean, she's got a pair of movies 0:02:41.680 --> 0:02:44.160 in the race, and both of them were at Toronto Arrival, 0:02:44.560 --> 0:02:47.399 premiered in Venice went to tell you Ride. We spoke 0:02:47.440 --> 0:02:51.240 to her last week on the podcast and uh, you know, 0:02:51.480 --> 0:02:54.839 two very different performances, I would imagine. Obviously I haven't 0:02:54.840 --> 0:03:00.280 seen Nocturnal, but an Arrival. Uh, she's she's pretty staggering. Um, 0:03:00.760 --> 0:03:03.079 just the level of control that she has in this 0:03:03.200 --> 0:03:06.639 role of of who is going to become a mother? 0:03:07.400 --> 0:03:09.440 It's it's, as I was joking with her, it's hard 0:03:09.480 --> 0:03:11.520 to talk about that movie without ruining. I know, I'm 0:03:11.520 --> 0:03:14.040 trying to be very careful. Um, but between these two movies, 0:03:14.040 --> 0:03:16.720 why don't you talk about the two performances and where 0:03:16.760 --> 0:03:19.040 you think the strong suits are. Well, it's interesting because 0:03:19.040 --> 0:03:21.440 I think nocturnal animals. Actually, I don't know how the 0:03:21.480 --> 0:03:23.400 world is going to respond to nocturnal animals. I know 0:03:23.520 --> 0:03:25.560 I loved it. A lot of people loved it. I 0:03:25.600 --> 0:03:27.680 honestly don't know how it's going to play in the 0:03:27.720 --> 0:03:29.320 rest of the world or how it will. I think 0:03:29.320 --> 0:03:32.239 it'll be a pretty big factor in the Oscar Race. Um, 0:03:32.280 --> 0:03:35.400 so it might be the more Oscar friendly movie. But 0:03:35.440 --> 0:03:38.680 I actually think her performance in a Rival might get 0:03:38.720 --> 0:03:43.320 more attention for her. Um, Nocturnal Animals is very stylized. 0:03:43.360 --> 0:03:45.400 She's very good. Like, don't get me wrong, this is 0:03:45.480 --> 0:03:49.040 totally like a wonderful choice to have to make. But 0:03:49.080 --> 0:03:51.120 I do think Arrival there is so much heart and 0:03:51.160 --> 0:03:55.000 emotion where she's has to be very restrained in Nocturnal Animals. 0:03:55.160 --> 0:03:56.880 I also think, um, and you might be able to 0:03:56.880 --> 0:03:59.480 speak to this better than I can. You know. Uh, 0:03:59.520 --> 0:04:01.680 there's a lot of love for Arrival, and it is 0:04:01.680 --> 0:04:04.200 not a traditional sort of movie that you see in 0:04:04.240 --> 0:04:06.360 the Oscar Race, so it might be sort of fun 0:04:06.440 --> 0:04:09.400 to reward her there. But at this point it's I mean, look, 0:04:09.640 --> 0:04:11.800 I just was looking at tweets I sent out a 0:04:11.840 --> 0:04:14.160 year ago. I honestly thought that there would be a 0:04:14.160 --> 0:04:17.239 problem deciding if Cape Blanchett would get nominated for Truth 0:04:17.360 --> 0:04:20.799 or Carol. Yeah me to see, Okay, I loved Truth. 0:04:20.920 --> 0:04:22.680 I thought she was great and Truth I really thought 0:04:22.720 --> 0:04:24.359 she was fantastic and truth and I thought she might 0:04:24.400 --> 0:04:27.320 get nominated for that and we were staggeringly wrong. Yeah, 0:04:27.400 --> 0:04:30.080 it happens. It happens. It does a lot with me, 0:04:30.200 --> 0:04:33.040 believe it or not. Um, you know, the Toronto Audience 0:04:33.040 --> 0:04:34.880 Award is something to talk about, by the way, because 0:04:34.920 --> 0:04:37.560 every year it's it's a good indication of what is 0:04:37.600 --> 0:04:40.559 playing broadly, what is playing well to a broad cross 0:04:40.600 --> 0:04:43.520 section of people, which is instructive as it pertains of 0:04:43.560 --> 0:04:46.760 the Academy Last year Room One, and you know, people 0:04:46.760 --> 0:04:49.120 still didn't give it as due as the season progressed 0:04:49.120 --> 0:04:51.679 and said, oh it's people aren't going to watch that movie, 0:04:51.760 --> 0:04:53.240 you know, blah blah blah. And then it gets not 0:04:53.279 --> 0:04:57.520 only picture but director, and obviously Bree Larson wins Best Actress. Uh. 0:04:57.800 --> 0:04:59.880 To my view, it seems like this this is probably 0:04:59.880 --> 0:05:02.159 the between a couple of movies, La La Land, which 0:05:02.400 --> 0:05:04.679 started in Venice. Went to tell your Ride went to Toronto. 0:05:06.040 --> 0:05:08.400 Everyone that sees it is in love with it. Obviously, 0:05:08.960 --> 0:05:11.040 I said, the daby and she'sel yesterday. Oh god, it 0:05:11.080 --> 0:05:15.080 was only yesterday. I said. Look, there might be people 0:05:15.120 --> 0:05:18.000 who La La Land is not their thing, but I 0:05:18.040 --> 0:05:20.720 can't imagine anyone hating this movie, and if they do, 0:05:20.800 --> 0:05:23.760 they might be a serial killer, because it is so 0:05:23.920 --> 0:05:27.520 joyous and fresh, and you can look at it in 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:30.240 a jaded way and say, well, sure, they got Ryan 0:05:30.240 --> 0:05:32.280 Gosliy and Emma Stone and they made a musical, so 0:05:32.360 --> 0:05:34.880 you know they it's Oscar bait. But no way on 0:05:35.000 --> 0:05:37.960 paper was that Oscar bait When people signed up to 0:05:37.960 --> 0:05:41.440 finance a subversive musical. He completely flips the genre and 0:05:41.440 --> 0:05:44.400 it's here in some ways, and uh, you know it's 0:05:44.440 --> 0:05:47.880 it's it's a an expressionistic musical. It's amazing. It's a 0:05:47.880 --> 0:05:51.120 wonderful film. And you don't like musicals, do you not? Really? 0:05:51.480 --> 0:05:53.800 To be perfectly honest, Although that said, Singing in the 0:05:53.839 --> 0:05:55.440 Rain is one of my favorite movies of all time, 0:05:55.480 --> 0:05:57.920 But how can it not be also very subversive? Yah? 0:05:57.960 --> 0:06:00.520 Let's yeah, it's a great movie. It's um interesting because 0:06:00.560 --> 0:06:03.279 when I saw The Land, I said, I think people 0:06:03.279 --> 0:06:05.919 who don't generally like musicals are actually really going to 0:06:05.960 --> 0:06:09.120 love this movie. Um. And then people who do like musicals, 0:06:09.360 --> 0:06:11.280 I'm very curious to see how they Resmond. Now, I 0:06:11.360 --> 0:06:14.279 love musicals, as you know, and I loved it, so 0:06:14.480 --> 0:06:16.720 maybe they'll embrace it, but it is not. Even though 0:06:16.760 --> 0:06:22.760 it takes its homages from you know, big MGM musicals, Um, 0:06:22.800 --> 0:06:25.400 it's not like a traditional musical in any way. I 0:06:25.400 --> 0:06:27.960 think that works for it. I was going to say, 0:06:28.920 --> 0:06:31.440 make fun of me when I say that, but I 0:06:31.480 --> 0:06:34.560 agree with you. You're allowed one or two podcast. Okay, 0:06:34.600 --> 0:06:37.599 we'll keep track. But yeah, I think that somebody until 0:06:37.600 --> 0:06:39.400 Your Ride was making the case to me that the 0:06:39.440 --> 0:06:42.840 fact that it was not particularly in the vein of 0:06:43.040 --> 0:06:46.080 traditional musicals, that that will hurt it in the race. 0:06:46.120 --> 0:06:48.560 And I'm just thinking that would have just set it 0:06:48.640 --> 0:06:51.400 up to be compared to you know whatever sound of 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:54.400 music blah blah blah. But like this is its own thing, 0:06:54.560 --> 0:06:57.320 and uh, you know I I have. I can't imagine 0:06:57.320 --> 0:07:00.000 it not going very far this season, and that couldn't 0:07:00.000 --> 0:07:03.000 include winning the Audience Award. Yeah, I agree. I think 0:07:03.040 --> 0:07:05.320 it's between La La Landed Moonlight and Moonlight is my 0:07:05.400 --> 0:07:07.720 other another one I have here. I saw that in 0:07:07.720 --> 0:07:11.800 Toronto or Tell Your Ride. Obviously a very different movie, 0:07:12.320 --> 0:07:15.400 but a movie that I think it affects everyone who 0:07:15.440 --> 0:07:19.760 sees it. It's it's it's uh. Peter de Bruce and 0:07:19.800 --> 0:07:22.200 I spoke about it last week. But it's the direction 0:07:22.520 --> 0:07:25.680 is really staggering, the performances that Barry Jenkins is able 0:07:25.720 --> 0:07:28.760 to get out of this cast, and the way it's 0:07:28.800 --> 0:07:32.120 just his story laide there and you know, we'll see 0:07:32.120 --> 0:07:35.600 how it goes. I'm sure that Toronto would probably rather 0:07:35.640 --> 0:07:38.400 have like a world premiere when the audience award like 0:07:38.440 --> 0:07:40.560 a lot very interesting, which lyon was the one movie 0:07:40.560 --> 0:07:43.440 I did not see appearing great things about something interesting. 0:07:43.480 --> 0:07:46.240 You might already know this, but Naomi Harris, who's the 0:07:46.240 --> 0:07:50.600 only person in all three segments in Moonlight, came into 0:07:50.600 --> 0:07:52.840 our studio and you know she shot her scenes in 0:07:52.840 --> 0:07:55.440 three days. Yes, it's crazy, and I assume that meant 0:07:55.520 --> 0:07:58.080 that she shot scenes from the first segment one day, 0:07:58.280 --> 0:08:00.400 the middle segment the next day. No, she would say 0:08:00.440 --> 0:08:03.120 she started off the morning an old age makeup, did 0:08:03.160 --> 0:08:04.960 the middle scenes, did the beginning to see because it 0:08:04.960 --> 0:08:07.280 was all based on location, and then in the day 0:08:07.280 --> 0:08:09.400 an old age makeup again. And that just adds a 0:08:09.400 --> 0:08:11.440 whole Because I asked her, I said, do you want 0:08:11.440 --> 0:08:13.560 to talk about the fact you only shot in three days? 0:08:13.600 --> 0:08:16.120 Because you know, um, are you afraid people might sort 0:08:16.120 --> 0:08:18.720 of like be dismissive? And be like, well, you know, 0:08:18.840 --> 0:08:22.200 it's it's only a three day performance, we should nominate it. Uh, 0:08:22.240 --> 0:08:23.760 And she was like no, she was more than happy 0:08:23.800 --> 0:08:25.640 to Well, let's be clear. She flew in from the 0:08:25.720 --> 0:08:29.000 junk for Bond in Mexico City to South Florida to 0:08:29.000 --> 0:08:31.000 shoot those three days, so she was in a completely 0:08:31.040 --> 0:08:35.120 other headspace. That makes the performance that much more amazing 0:08:35.160 --> 0:08:38.400 to me. And I actually interviewed her during right before 0:08:38.440 --> 0:08:41.680 Toronto and we spoke about that, and uh, I think 0:08:41.679 --> 0:08:43.520 she's a luck for a nomination. Oh, I do too. 0:08:43.600 --> 0:08:46.240 And it's interesting because another luck for a nomination is 0:08:46.280 --> 0:08:49.200 Michelle Williams and Manchester by the Sea And again not 0:08:49.280 --> 0:08:51.960 a lot of screen time, but what they do and 0:08:51.960 --> 0:08:54.840 that screen time is phenomenal. Can we talk about Amazon 0:08:54.920 --> 0:08:57.240 putting that clip out there? I didn't know they did. 0:08:57.520 --> 0:09:00.680 They've released the unless I'm mistaken, I said, I've been 0:09:01.480 --> 0:09:04.360 five days, but I know they screened the clip of 0:09:04.800 --> 0:09:07.800 Michelle's big moment in Manchester by the Sea at CinemaCon 0:09:08.000 --> 0:09:10.200 and now it's used in the trailer a little bit. 0:09:10.840 --> 0:09:13.480 And now they've released this clip and it's it's bugs 0:09:13.520 --> 0:09:15.360 me because it's a moment you have to build to. 0:09:16.080 --> 0:09:20.400 I mean, I guess anything that gets people to see 0:09:20.440 --> 0:09:23.440 the movie and anything that sells that performance is good. 0:09:23.480 --> 0:09:25.360 But yeah, I don't I don't want them to give 0:09:25.360 --> 0:09:31.920 that away. I can't imagine Keneth Lunargain is happy with that. Yeah. 0:09:32.080 --> 0:09:34.480 By the way, I was at the Nocturnal Animal screening 0:09:34.480 --> 0:09:36.920 where the screen went black three minutes. I don't know 0:09:36.920 --> 0:09:39.840 if you heard about that, and I literally, yeah, I 0:09:39.880 --> 0:09:42.640 literally think I heard a head roll because you know, 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:44.840 what a perfectionist Tom boy. I'm sure Tom was upset 0:09:44.840 --> 0:09:47.200 about that, But what a testament to the movie and 0:09:47.200 --> 0:09:49.200 how great it was that we were all just like, 0:09:49.400 --> 0:09:51.960 first we thought it was part of the movie. You're like, oh, what, 0:09:51.960 --> 0:09:54.559 what brilliant thing has he done here? And then we 0:09:54.559 --> 0:09:56.240 were just just like, you know, on the edge of 0:09:56.280 --> 0:09:58.560 our seats, like bring it back. That reminds me of 0:09:58.559 --> 0:10:02.040 the time that I saw Chay and the subtitles didn't 0:10:02.080 --> 0:10:04.160 work for like twenty minutes. Oh my god. None of 0:10:04.240 --> 0:10:07.560 us thought that that was a mistake. Everyone just thought, oh, 0:10:07.600 --> 0:10:11.800 this is just Soderberg, keep up. And then the movie 0:10:11.840 --> 0:10:13.560 stopped and the guy came in and said, oh, sorry, 0:10:13.559 --> 0:10:15.920 the subtitles weren't working, and we were like, okay, oh 0:10:16.000 --> 0:10:21.760 that's so fine. Um. Snowdon Yes premiered in Toronto Oliver Stone. 0:10:22.440 --> 0:10:25.000 It also played at Comic Con, which was an interesting 0:10:25.040 --> 0:10:26.880 place to screen it, and they had a big panel 0:10:26.880 --> 0:10:30.479 there where he made headlines with his POKEMONO stuff. He's 0:10:30.520 --> 0:10:32.760 got great sound bites, like he came in and I 0:10:32.800 --> 0:10:35.480 asked him if you know he's become more paranoid since 0:10:35.559 --> 0:10:37.640 making Snowden and like covering the camera on his phone 0:10:37.640 --> 0:10:41.560 and he's like, well, paranoia implies that I might not 0:10:41.679 --> 0:10:45.080 be right seeing Oh. By the way, Oliver Stone in 0:10:45.120 --> 0:10:50.760 our studio, UM, basically production designed his own shots. When 0:10:50.800 --> 0:10:52.880 we were doing the interview. He he had us film 0:10:52.960 --> 0:10:55.240 him and then he got behind the camera, checked it out, 0:10:55.280 --> 0:10:57.040 made sure the lighting was good, made sure he was 0:10:57.080 --> 0:10:59.920 seated in the right place. Um. And you can make 0:11:00.000 --> 0:11:02.000 fun of him if you want, but it looked terrific 0:11:02.760 --> 0:11:05.960 and it was very sweet he does. UM. I like 0:11:06.040 --> 0:11:08.280 that movie a lot. It's very entertaining. It's very un 0:11:08.360 --> 0:11:11.320 Oliver Stone in some ways because it's uh, I don't 0:11:11.320 --> 0:11:14.280 want to say that it's anonymous, but it just has 0:11:14.400 --> 0:11:18.000 a slicker sheen and his movies tend to have it 0:11:18.040 --> 0:11:21.760 doesn't you know again it's I don't mean this to 0:11:21.800 --> 0:11:23.760 sound like a knock see. I do think it feels 0:11:23.920 --> 0:11:25.480 like an all of our Stone movie, like one he 0:11:25.520 --> 0:11:28.079 would have made in the eighties. Um. I think it's 0:11:28.080 --> 0:11:31.880 his best movie in twenty five years since jfk uh 0:11:31.960 --> 0:11:35.000 in telling the story of a Well that's kind of 0:11:35.000 --> 0:11:37.240 faint praise. Let's be honest. I'm just trying to think 0:11:37.280 --> 0:11:42.320 what's happening savages Nixon, Nix and I love Nixon has 0:11:42.400 --> 0:11:45.720 very good performances. But I think it's his best felt 0:11:45.760 --> 0:11:47.960 since Jeff Any Given Sunday. I'm a huge fan. Well, 0:11:48.000 --> 0:11:50.559 you know what, I do love that movie. Yeah, yeah, 0:11:50.760 --> 0:11:52.560 But I do think it's an all of our Stone film, 0:11:52.600 --> 0:11:55.440 and that it surprised me in learning what a patriot 0:11:55.520 --> 0:11:57.760 Edward Snowden was, you know, and that he wanted to 0:11:57.800 --> 0:12:00.760 be a marine before an injury sort of forced him 0:12:00.760 --> 0:12:02.199 to the sidelines. And it made me think of you 0:12:02.240 --> 0:12:04.800 know ron Kovic and uh born on the Fourth of July, 0:12:05.040 --> 0:12:08.000 or Charlie Sheen's character and Platoon. You know, these people 0:12:08.000 --> 0:12:12.760 who went into something very raw, raw America and you know, 0:12:12.840 --> 0:12:16.280 sort of got turned around, have their worldviews challenge absolutely 0:12:17.480 --> 0:12:19.040 every time I look at my computer, I think that 0:12:19.080 --> 0:12:20.440 I need to put something on the camp. Oh I 0:12:20.480 --> 0:12:22.600 did because I saw I also saw a Black Mirror 0:12:22.679 --> 0:12:26.439 the new season and yeah, there's I am terrified to 0:12:26.480 --> 0:12:29.200 turn on my phone at this point, speaking of there 0:12:29.240 --> 0:12:32.240 is an Oscar worthy performance in uh this new season 0:12:32.240 --> 0:12:35.520 of Black Mirror from Bryce Dallas Howard in an episode 0:12:35.520 --> 0:12:38.440 directed by Joe Wright called Nose Dive that yeah, you 0:12:38.520 --> 0:12:41.320 just have to see Bryce Dallas Chastain. Well, you know, 0:12:41.360 --> 0:12:44.000 I first, this is a total name dropping story, but 0:12:44.000 --> 0:12:45.920 I have to tell it. I was at the airport 0:12:45.960 --> 0:12:50.960 with her yesterday and yeah, sorry with Bryce and the 0:12:51.000 --> 0:12:53.600 woman's checking your ticket was looking at her and going 0:12:54.440 --> 0:12:57.800 do you use a stage name? And she's like uh, 0:12:57.840 --> 0:13:01.800 and she knew exactly and she's like, well, who do 0:13:01.840 --> 0:13:03.560 you think I am? And the woman was like and 0:13:03.559 --> 0:13:06.400 she actually. Bryce filmed this little interaction with the woman 0:13:06.400 --> 0:13:08.240 and I think she's going to post it on social media, 0:13:08.880 --> 0:13:13.160 but no, it's like it happens all the time. Um. 0:13:13.240 --> 0:13:15.760 And then like I was standing waiting for her outside 0:13:15.760 --> 0:13:17.280 of customs and a couple of people came up to 0:13:17.280 --> 0:13:19.680 me and they were like, Um, your friend is is 0:13:19.679 --> 0:13:22.640 Is she the one from zero Dark thirty. Yeah it was. 0:13:23.080 --> 0:13:24.680 And by the way, you know how much I hate 0:13:24.679 --> 0:13:30.120 to fly, and I need to be like very um 0:13:30.200 --> 0:13:32.680 um filled with zanix in order to get on a plane. 0:13:32.720 --> 0:13:33.960 And I got to give a shout out to Bryce 0:13:34.000 --> 0:13:37.760 Dallice Howard because she kept me so calm and collected. 0:13:38.320 --> 0:13:39.920 And we got on the plane and you know, I 0:13:39.920 --> 0:13:42.880 said goodbye because she was in first class obviously, and 0:13:42.920 --> 0:13:44.760 it was the most relaxed I've ever been on a flight. 0:13:45.800 --> 0:13:47.280 I'll probably need to talk to her next time I 0:13:47.280 --> 0:13:49.719 get on a plane. There. Let's talk about Jackie, which 0:13:49.760 --> 0:13:52.400 was the big acquisition out of the festival. Fox Searchlight 0:13:52.440 --> 0:13:54.440 picked it up after being involved in the development of 0:13:54.440 --> 0:13:57.480 the movie. It's a perfect hone for them. I mean 0:13:57.520 --> 0:14:01.800 Darren Aronofsky, who produced Jackie, did not direct it. Uh. 0:14:01.800 --> 0:14:04.600 And Natalie Portman they obviously collaborated on Black Swall and 0:14:04.679 --> 0:14:07.880 very successfully for Fox Searchlights. Yeah. Yeah, and Pablo Lorraine 0:14:07.920 --> 0:14:09.480 is the director, just had a tribute and Tell Your 0:14:09.559 --> 0:14:13.760 Ride and had two movies Reason Aruta was the other one. Uh. 0:14:13.840 --> 0:14:16.959 And you can I say something gossipy? Oh please? Naruta 0:14:17.000 --> 0:14:19.760 stars Guy el Garcia Burnell, who used to date Natalie Portman. 0:14:20.120 --> 0:14:23.320 Oh my gosh, the connections are amazing. Well, tell me 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:25.800 about Natalie's performance. I haven't seen the movie yet. I mean, 0:14:25.880 --> 0:14:28.520 she's great, and here's you know, the truth is I 0:14:28.600 --> 0:14:31.960 somehow missed the whole Kennedy Camelot thing, Like I'm not 0:14:32.040 --> 0:14:34.000 as fascinated by them as a lot of people. I 0:14:34.000 --> 0:14:36.400 don't know if it's an age thing or just that 0:14:36.480 --> 0:14:39.960 I think quote unquote royalty is silly. But she is 0:14:40.120 --> 0:14:42.440 really amazing. I mean, it's a great study of grief. 0:14:43.080 --> 0:14:46.160 It's just a powerful you know, you believe her as 0:14:46.160 --> 0:14:48.840 a mother, you believe her as a first lady, as 0:14:48.920 --> 0:14:53.080 this you know widow Um. Yeah, it's it's interesting even 0:14:53.120 --> 0:14:54.920 though we know what the story is. I kind of 0:14:54.920 --> 0:14:58.240 don't want to give away too much. I'm curious why 0:14:58.240 --> 0:15:00.440 it took so long for someone to pick Get Up. 0:15:00.680 --> 0:15:03.920 I mean, does it is an esoteric film? I think 0:15:03.920 --> 0:15:07.520 it's actually really commercial interesting. Yeah, I mean it was actually, 0:15:07.520 --> 0:15:09.880 to be honest, it was the one thing that people 0:15:09.920 --> 0:15:12.040 were really saying they really want to see after you know, 0:15:12.080 --> 0:15:16.760 obviously La La land Um. I remember talking to some 0:15:16.800 --> 0:15:19.080 critics who got shut out of the first Present industry 0:15:19.120 --> 0:15:20.680 screening because it was so full and it was in 0:15:20.720 --> 0:15:23.520 their biggest theater. Yeah, it's uh, it's rare for a 0:15:23.560 --> 0:15:26.240 movie nowadays to get picked up in Toronto and get 0:15:26.240 --> 0:15:28.280 turned around as a as a contender. It happened with 0:15:28.320 --> 0:15:30.480 The Wrestler a number of years ago. It happened with 0:15:30.520 --> 0:15:34.400 Still Alice a couple of years ago. Um. But you know, obviously, 0:15:34.440 --> 0:15:37.160 I think with with just the turmoil surrounding Birth of 0:15:37.160 --> 0:15:39.480 a Nation, Searchlight would probably like to have something else 0:15:39.480 --> 0:15:42.040 to play with this season. So good for them that 0:15:42.120 --> 0:15:46.120 they have something else to work with. But yeah, it's 0:15:46.160 --> 0:15:49.120 it'll be very interesting to see Natalie Portman back in 0:15:49.160 --> 0:15:51.640 the race. Yeah, I mean she's great. Last time we 0:15:51.640 --> 0:15:53.480 saw her in the race, she was pregnant on stage 0:15:53.480 --> 0:15:58.120 winning an oscar and looking amazing. So yeah, great. Well, 0:15:58.360 --> 0:15:59.760 and you know, I actually went to the Birth of 0:15:59.800 --> 0:16:03.200 Any screen in Toronto, even though I've already seen the movie. Uh, 0:16:03.200 --> 0:16:05.400 and I have to say it played great, did it? Yeah? Yeah, 0:16:05.440 --> 0:16:07.200 I mean I read the stuff about the standing ovations 0:16:07.200 --> 0:16:09.440 and everything, although it, let's be honest, everything in Toronto 0:16:10.000 --> 0:16:15.400 people give standing ovations. Yeah, but I do still love 0:16:15.400 --> 0:16:17.720 that film, and I will say that in my circles 0:16:17.840 --> 0:16:20.520 just kind of my conversations with Academy members. More often 0:16:20.520 --> 0:16:22.240 than not, people are more concerned with what the movie 0:16:22.320 --> 0:16:24.400 is going to be, and they want to separate art 0:16:24.400 --> 0:16:26.200 from the artist. We'll see how it plays out. I'm 0:16:26.200 --> 0:16:28.680 sure we'll be talking about it all season. Do you 0:16:28.720 --> 0:16:31.640 think having mel Gibson in the race this year helps 0:16:31.720 --> 0:16:34.720 or hurt Snate Parker? It's interesting. I mean, it's certainly interesting. 0:16:35.520 --> 0:16:39.920 Our editor Andy What wrote a piece about that recently. UM, 0:16:39.960 --> 0:16:46.120 it's it will present the idea of hypocrisy pretty starkly, 0:16:46.240 --> 0:16:49.400 I think. Uh. In regarding that film, Mel Gibson's film 0:16:49.440 --> 0:16:53.840 hexall Ridge, which played Venice and only Venice, UM great movie, 0:16:54.320 --> 0:16:55.800 I have no doubt. I mean, he is a really 0:16:55.800 --> 0:16:59.200 good filmmaker. I really liked Apocalypto. I did too. I 0:16:59.200 --> 0:17:01.800 think it's a fantastic filmmaker. I think that The Passion 0:17:01.840 --> 0:17:03.760 of the Christ is an amazing film. I've never seen 0:17:03.800 --> 0:17:07.520 it never will because you don't want to deal with I. 0:17:07.720 --> 0:17:10.159 You know, I have issues with torture on film. It's well, 0:17:10.160 --> 0:17:13.840 then yeah, you should skip the Passion. Torture and hurting 0:17:13.920 --> 0:17:16.680 dogs will turn me off to any movie. Stay away 0:17:16.680 --> 0:17:19.639 from white Gut then Oh my god, I did so 0:17:19.800 --> 0:17:23.320 you know, they did not sell that movie fairly. Oh 0:17:23.359 --> 0:17:25.080 good god. That was one of my favorite movies of 0:17:25.200 --> 0:17:26.879 last year though, And well, hey, look I like a 0:17:26.920 --> 0:17:29.640 Morris Paros, so I guess there are exceptions, I guess. 0:17:29.680 --> 0:17:33.440 So well, then let's let's let's make a declaration. What's 0:17:33.440 --> 0:17:35.920 gonna win that People's Choice prize because that is going 0:17:35.960 --> 0:17:40.159 to you know, recent winners are the King's Speech, some dog, millionaire, 0:17:41.200 --> 0:17:50.080 uh what else? Gosh room we said. Uh um, I 0:17:50.160 --> 0:17:52.240 really don't know right now. I kind of want to 0:17:52.240 --> 0:17:56.600 say Moonlight because I feel like it's there's something about 0:17:56.600 --> 0:17:58.679 the number of theaters they play into. Yeah, I know 0:17:58.720 --> 0:18:01.920 it's regarding all. I mean, law La Land, it's gonna 0:18:01.920 --> 0:18:05.000 be La La Lander. Moonlight is my guests, and I 0:18:05.080 --> 0:18:08.000 kind of feel like, again, it's wrong of me to 0:18:08.040 --> 0:18:10.000 say that La La Land is the obvious choice because 0:18:10.000 --> 0:18:13.280 it's the one everyone loves and it's so accessible. When 0:18:13.320 --> 0:18:15.840 I do think it was made from a place of like, 0:18:16.000 --> 0:18:18.920 I'm making this movie for me, you know, and hopefully 0:18:18.920 --> 0:18:22.440 other people will like it. But um, I just think 0:18:22.600 --> 0:18:25.520 I don't know, I mean, like seeing people's reactions to Moonlight, 0:18:26.280 --> 0:18:32.320 like Pete like and I just don't think there's anything. Well, 0:18:32.560 --> 0:18:34.160 it's not fair for me to say there's nothing else 0:18:34.200 --> 0:18:36.440 there out there like it because of the same could 0:18:36.480 --> 0:18:39.760 be said of La La Land. Yeah. Yeah, you say moonlight, 0:18:39.880 --> 0:18:42.480 I'll say La La Land. I think that's what it is. 0:18:42.600 --> 0:18:44.639 And then I would not rule out nocturnal animals. But 0:18:44.640 --> 0:18:47.160 that might be wishful thinking. But wishful thinking help. Last 0:18:47.240 --> 0:18:49.040 year when my favorite movie of the year, Room One, 0:18:49.400 --> 0:18:52.400 there you go. Well, another movie that played Toronto. We're 0:18:52.400 --> 0:18:54.399 gonna get into with the interview section here in a 0:18:54.440 --> 0:18:58.040 minute was American Pastoral, Ewan McGregor's directorial debut. I'll be 0:18:58.080 --> 0:18:59.560 talking to him and just a little bit, so stick 0:18:59.560 --> 0:19:24.720 around for that. Welcome back everyone, I'm here with Ewan McGregor, 0:19:24.840 --> 0:19:28.800 the star and director of American Pastoral. You would thank 0:19:28.800 --> 0:19:30.440 you for being here today. My great pleasure. Thanks for 0:19:30.480 --> 0:19:35.960 having me. This is your directorial debut. Uh yeah, my 0:19:36.000 --> 0:19:37.960 first feature film. I did a short film a long 0:19:38.000 --> 0:19:40.960 long time ago, but it was very like literally very short, 0:19:41.119 --> 0:19:45.520 and this was my first feature film. Yes, and a 0:19:45.560 --> 0:19:47.119 long time in the coming. I'll be wanting to do 0:19:47.119 --> 0:19:49.680 it for a long long time, but I was waiting 0:19:49.680 --> 0:19:51.199 to find the right story. Well, I was just going 0:19:51.240 --> 0:19:52.639 to ask, I assume you wanted to do it for 0:19:52.640 --> 0:19:55.479 a while. So what was it about this material that said, okay, 0:19:55.520 --> 0:19:58.080 this is the one. Well I was attached to this 0:19:58.160 --> 0:20:00.679 as as an actor to play this weed for I 0:20:00.680 --> 0:20:05.680 think maybe three years, or maybe over three years. And 0:20:05.720 --> 0:20:07.920 we kept we kept up, we we we we kept 0:20:07.920 --> 0:20:11.000 having um, we kept losing directors a bit like The 0:20:11.080 --> 0:20:13.200 Drummer and Spinal Tap, they would sort of follow it. 0:20:13.280 --> 0:20:18.080 No one died, but it was one of those situations 0:20:18.080 --> 0:20:21.400 where it happened to me before in movies where after 0:20:21.480 --> 0:20:25.560