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Speaker 1: up on this episode of Turning Point Tonight. My name

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Speaker 1: is Joe Bob. Thanks so much for tuning in together.

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Speaker 1: We are charging the course of America's cultural comeback. This

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Speaker 1: is Turning Point Tonight. Now, before we get to any

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Speaker 1: get to what I think was one of the best ideas.

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Speaker 1: And as you read more into it, you start to

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a logistics thing. I don't

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Speaker 1: to put up this amount of money, and if you

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Speaker 1: They said this the steep price of the bond could

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Speaker 1: We the People Media, Gates Garcia and professor, among other things,

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Speaker 1: Gates. I want to start with you here. I feel

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Speaker 4: Well, the Conservative Party is the party of laws, and

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Speaker 4: We've seen rampant abuse of tourist visas turn into defacto

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Speaker 4: visa abuse is contributing to a system that's too big,

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Speaker 1: Gates, I'm not sure about you, but I live in

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't want people who aren't going to put

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Speaker 3: Well, my last name is Garcia.

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Speaker 4: If you're taking an oath or running for US office,

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Speaker 3: Sure, celebrate your heritage, but when you claim to be.

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Speaker 4: My ancestors were from Spain. My dad was actually born

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Speaker 4: Framing oneself as a foreign national before US citizen risk

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Speaker 1: Well put, and I one hundred percent agree. Having said that,

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Speaker 5: Mean, this is just so embarrassing. I really wish liberals

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Speaker 6: And I think Americans are are fed up with that.

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Speaker 5: this woman has gone, you know, over into this conference

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Speaker 6: Leaning on her identity politics.

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Speaker 5: The only problem is that she got it wrong. She

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Speaker 4: First of all, Joe Bob, your show airs for me

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Speaker 4: Around fifteen million dollars annually, let yet ratings continue to plummet.

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Speaker 1: White House, Monica, busy day as always. I let's start

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Speaker 1: which I don't really even agree with my own joke there.

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Speaker 1: But that's the next story I think is really interesting

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Speaker 1: because I'm fascinated looking at it. Is this going to

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Speaker 1: be the next Dylan mulvany bud light situation. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: play you guys a video of a dude who has

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Speaker 1: an it sorry he identifies as let me get this right,

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Speaker 1: he him, they them, and she hers. I thought you

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Speaker 1: had to pick two of them, but I guess I'm

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Speaker 1: not woken off. This guy, Jonathan Vaness, who's a big

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Speaker 1: time on the social media platforms has a new line

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Speaker 1: at Alta Beauty and they are leaning hard into it.

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Speaker 1: Watch this and we'll discuss us.

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Speaker 12: I'm just sleep for the first time, you guys, what's

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Speaker 12: your name?

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Speaker 8: To see what looks like it?

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Speaker 6: Also for the first time, it's gonna be all to fun.

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Speaker 8: Okay, let's see it.

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Speaker 1: All right? That that killed that. We're done with that.

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Speaker 1: I there's a little bit more of that video, but

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Speaker 1: I don't think we really need to see it. I

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Speaker 1: think you understand the point. Sorry for blinding. Uh, the

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Speaker 1: viewers at home gates this bold move here by an

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Speaker 1: actually very popular brand of makeup. I know, I don't

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Speaker 1: know a ton about that world, But do you think

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Speaker 1: that there's gonna be enough pushback on this that it'll

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Speaker 1: be a boycott situation like bud Light was with Dylan mulvaney.

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Speaker 3: You want a viral take. This was genius.

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Speaker 8: They get him, They there she them.

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Speaker 4: It all for the price of one person. I mean,

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Speaker 4: talk about it. Busheting just and honestly, this is insane.

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Speaker 4: Did we not learn anything from bud Light or Sidney Sweety?

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Speaker 4: I mean, American eagle stock is booming here. Here's why

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Speaker 4: this time is different for me. I'm a dad of

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Speaker 4: a ten year old daughter who is just getting into makeup,

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Speaker 4: and we've been to Alta. Now we've been to Alta

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Speaker 4: for the last time. This is so offensive to women.

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Speaker 4: If women can't go in a makeup store anymore, or

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Speaker 4: a bathroom, or have any sacred spaces to share, where

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Speaker 4: can they go? What's next? Isn't beauty? Isn't a beauty

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Speaker 4: company supposed to be promoting beauty? There's nothing beautiful about

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Speaker 4: a man with a beard and chest hair parading around

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Speaker 4: in address.

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Speaker 3: This is already led to a boycott.

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Speaker 4: Rightfully, soa women want to shop for lipstick, not politics.

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Speaker 4: Isn't makeup supposed to be about making women seen? This

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Speaker 4: campaign erases women. Alta isn't marketing to women, They're mocking them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Sierra, I would have thought that companies would have

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Speaker 1: learned from the Dylan mulvaney butd like debacle. But apparently

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Speaker 1: they have or they still think it'll work. What do

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Speaker 1: you think is going on here at the higher ups

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Speaker 1: over there at that company?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think this is a symptom of

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Speaker 5: why the Democratic Party is in such disarray.

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Speaker 6: Total lack of self awareness.

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Speaker 5: You know, these people, these marketing, these old to marketing execs,

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Speaker 5: because are probably sitting in their studio apartments, still wearing

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Speaker 5: a mask, thinking that they're on the cutting edge of culture,

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Speaker 5: you know, when in reality, they probably haven't left their

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Speaker 5: house in seven years and they have no idea what

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Speaker 5: people want to see.

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Speaker 6: And you know, the reality is we're not doing that anymore,

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Speaker 6: and women don't want that.

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Speaker 5: We want to celebrate natural women and natural beauty.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, it's a I feel like this is not

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Speaker 1: like a difficult choice to make. But hey, companies out there,

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Speaker 1: stop stop doing the woke thing. It's not working and

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Speaker 1: everybody hates you for it, So just just chill out

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Speaker 1: on it a little bit. Gates Sierra, guys, thank you

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Speaker 1: so much for joining. Really appreciate you taking the time.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Joe, Bob, thanks, thank you. Coming up next here

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Speaker 1: on Turning Point tonight, we talked to Assistant Attorney General

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to turning point tonight. We're together, we are

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Speaker 1: charting the course of America's cultural comeback. We are joined

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Speaker 1: by the Assistant Attorney General Harmeat Dylan, in charge of

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Speaker 1: the Civil Rights Division. Thank you so much for joining.

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Speaker 1: Really appreciate you taking the time, Thanks for having me today.

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Speaker 1: So broad strokes before we kind of get into some

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Speaker 1: of the nitty gritty of it, what is your office

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Speaker 1: working on specifically? Obviously civil rights is a huge and

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Speaker 1: broad topic. But I think the forefront at this point

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Speaker 1: in time, or re least how I see it, is

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Speaker 1: all of this DEI initiative stuff and dismantling it around

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Speaker 1: the countries and more specifically at the universities. Can you

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Speaker 1: tell us about that?

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Speaker 11: Well?

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Speaker 8: DEI is a concept. I mean, over the years, it's

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Speaker 8: been called different things, and equity and affirmative action as

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Speaker 8: a tool of accomplishing this so called equity goal, but

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Speaker 8: really what it is is, you know, a way to

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Speaker 8: balance outcomes as opposed to opportunities. And I think that

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Speaker 8: over the years, courts have really cut back on the

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Speaker 8: ability of institutions to do that, and particularly where federal

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Speaker 8: or state funding are involved, they're not really allowed to

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Speaker 8: discriminate on the basis of race, and affirmative action is

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Speaker 8: a form of discrimination. So what we've been doing is

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Speaker 8: really taking aim at these issues wherever we find them.

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Speaker 8: We find them in public employment, we find them in

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Speaker 8: public and private education. We find them in government contracting

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Speaker 8: and grant making, and we find them in loan forgiveness.

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Speaker 8: We find them in so many other places, and so

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Speaker 8: we're really playing whack a mole as these things come

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Speaker 8: to our attention. But you're correct, the White House has

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Speaker 8: really taken aim.

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Speaker 2: At the big ticket item of the elite institutions of

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Speaker 2: higher learning, which are not coincidentally the worst offenders when

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Speaker 2: it comes to treating people on the basis of race

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Speaker 2: as opposed to individual merit.

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Speaker 1: So I have a curious I'm just curious my own

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Speaker 1: thoughts here. I had heard when you first came into office,

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Speaker 1: and this is kind of hold the fighting the swamp thing.

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Speaker 1: Almost half of your entire department just got up and left.

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Speaker 1: What has that been like in the pursuit of dismantling

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Speaker 1: all these DEA initiatives around with you know, also battling

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Speaker 1: kind of the internal swamp at the Justice Department, or

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Speaker 1: you know, hopefully getting rid of that while you're there.

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Speaker 8: Well, pushing quota based and outcome based DEI is a

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Speaker 8: holy grail of the left really and the civil rights movement.

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Speaker 8: And in the first Trump administration they really didn't take

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Speaker 8: aim at this. They kind of laid low. And the

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Speaker 8: second President Trump administration is bodily and forcibly confronting these

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Speaker 8: inequities and injustices in our system. And so that's my

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Speaker 8: job is to really frontally confront these issues. And so

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Speaker 8: I made it clear to the lawyers in the Civil

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Speaker 8: Rights Division there were over four hundred of them at

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Speaker 8: the time, that their job was to follow the law,

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Speaker 8: as the United States Supreme Court has to creed and

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Speaker 8: students for fair admissions and other cases, as the law

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Speaker 8: of the Statutes of the Civil Rights Act themselves indicated,

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Speaker 8: also as the President's execut orders, which also have the

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Speaker 8: force of law, require and that caused over two hundred

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Speaker 8: lawyers in the Civil Rights Division to quit in the

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Speaker 8: first couple of weeks of my tenure, but that trend

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Speaker 8: hasn't really stopped. We now have over three hundred lawyers

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Speaker 8: who've quit, including a couple this week. So I think

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Speaker 8: that's actually a good thing overall when you look at

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Speaker 8: alignment of the organization with its goals. We really don't

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Speaker 8: want people working here who are opposed to our goals.

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Speaker 8: And you know, I don't want any lawyer having to

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Speaker 8: do a job and a bunch of clock every day.

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Speaker 8: I don't believe in the outcome. Unfortunately, the law dictates

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Speaker 8: what our outcomes are here in the Civil Rights Division,

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Speaker 8: and you know, they can practice law elsewhere if they like.

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Speaker 8: So we are looking to hire and bring in lawyers

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Speaker 8: not of any particular viewpoint, but commitment to the rule

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Speaker 8: of law is an essential scenic quana of being hired

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Speaker 8: here in the Civil Rights Division today, and that means

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Speaker 8: something different than it did a few years ago.

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Speaker 1: And you can probably confirm that you're not making any

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Speaker 1: DEI hires. You're just looking for the best to bread.

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Speaker 1: As I imagine I saw you on I think it

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Speaker 1: was a judiciary panel where you got into the idea

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Speaker 1: of individual liberties versus this kind of collectivist nature. And

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Speaker 1: that's probably a little bit more in the weeds than

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Speaker 1: we generally get on the show. But I really would

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Speaker 1: like you to expand on that thought because I thought

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Speaker 1: it was really interesting and also super important for how

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Speaker 1: the US citizen these populous looks at what the government

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Speaker 1: is supposed to do? Can you kind of expand on

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Speaker 1: that a little bit?

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Speaker 11: Well?

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Speaker 8: Yes, I when you you know, the founders of this

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Speaker 8: country were part of a stream of really radical thought,

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Speaker 8: and you know, sort of an Enlightenment period where the

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Speaker 8: concept was the elevation of man or woman as individuals

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Speaker 8: with individual rights and individual responsibilities. That's very different than, frankly,

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Speaker 8: thinking of most cultures historically, and certainly radically opposed to

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Speaker 8: the marx that we saw in the twentieth century. And

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Speaker 8: DEI is really a form of Marxism. It's a form

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Speaker 8: of collective justice and group think and group outcomes, and frankly,

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Speaker 8: to be more clear about it, a system of racial

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Speaker 8: spoils and a concept that we can right prior wrongs

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Speaker 8: committed by individuals by punishing people today who had nothing

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Speaker 8: to do with that and giving people spoils today who

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Speaker 8: had no discrimination against them. And so you know, these

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Speaker 8: are at odds with the founding principles of our country,

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Speaker 8: our constitution, and our declaration of independence. And so I

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Speaker 8: individual responsibility, individual opportunity, and not group outcomes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would happen to agree. Where do you see

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Speaker 1: the biggest hurdle for the civil rights approach that you're

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Speaker 1: taken at the Justice Department? And I know you probably

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Speaker 1: can't comment too specifically, but of the states, the institutions,

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Speaker 1: the localities that are pushing back, who do you see

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Speaker 1: is pushing back the hardest or the most difficult to

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Speaker 1: kind of get through.

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Speaker 8: Well, I'm not sure it's difficult as such, because the

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Speaker 8: law is on our side. But there are competing concerns.

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Speaker 8: For example, a competing concern and being articulated when we

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Speaker 8: go after these universities for grossly violating the rights of

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Speaker 8: Asian and white students and discriminating against male applicants and

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Speaker 8: so forth. As well, you know academic freedom, Well, we

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Speaker 8: have the right to academic freedom and so forth. I

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Speaker 8: don't really think that's quite on point. But what we're

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Speaker 8: not doing is getting into micromanaging these schools. As we're

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Speaker 8: talking to them about correcting their wrong practices. They can

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Speaker 8: go ahead and teach Marxism and you know, women's studies

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Speaker 8: and ethnic studies and underwater basket leaving all day. It

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Speaker 8: may affect the extent to which they qualify for federal

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Speaker 8: funding if what they're doing is, you know, inconsistent with

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Speaker 8: the national interest, but you know they can. There's no

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Speaker 8: rule that says that schools have to get federal funding,

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Speaker 8: So you know that we're doing a sort of a

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Speaker 8: case by case analysis. But the other limiting factor is, frankly,

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Speaker 8: just personnel. You know, a lot of people left the

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Speaker 8: Civil Rights Division, and if I had all a full

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Speaker 8: compliment of people here, we could be doing a lot more.

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Speaker 8: But we're doing a lot with what we have so far.

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Speaker 1: I might be totally out of my depth as a

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Speaker 1: guy who's definitely not a lawyer, But with all of

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Speaker 1: these cases that you've got going on, how much I

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Speaker 1: guess precedent do you think you're going to be setting

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Speaker 1: versus how much you're just enforcing existing law that has

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Speaker 1: already been decided. They're just deciding to break it. If

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Speaker 1: that question makes sense.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, no, we're doing both. That's a great question. First

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Speaker 8: of all, you start with implementing the current law. But look,

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Speaker 8: in my entire career of over thirty years, I've been

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Speaker 8: pushing the envelope in all of these issues already. So

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Speaker 8: it's actually been very gratifying to see the United States

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Speaker 8: Supreme Court, while I've been s in this position here

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Speaker 8: in this office, agree with some of the aggressive positions

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Speaker 8: I've taken in California in trial and appellate courts on

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Speaker 8: issues like you know, I I sued Google over discriminating

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Speaker 8: against a white male engineer and telling in me was inferior.

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Speaker 8: That was a cutting edge case. Today, that's the law today.

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Speaker 8: The United States Supreme Court, in a nine to zero

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Speaker 8: decision authored by Justice Katanji Brown Jackson, said that there

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Speaker 8: are not different standards for white or black, or any

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Speaker 8: color or category applicants under Title seven, our Federal Employment

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Speaker 8: Discrimination Statute. Everyone is treated equally. What a radical concept,

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Speaker 8: but the Court had not articulated as such until this year,

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Speaker 8: although some of US lawyers like me have been doing that,

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Speaker 8: taking that approach because we saw that that was a

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Speaker 8: trend of the law for years. We have cutting edge

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Speaker 8: cases happening right now in the Voting Rights Act area

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Speaker 8: as well. The United States Supreme Court has taking up

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Speaker 8: a case involving racial jerry mandering that may drive the

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Speaker 8: stake through racial jerry mandering, which has been a way

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Speaker 8: of life in protecting safe districts for minority candidates as

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Speaker 8: well as frankly safe districts for Republicans around them for decades,

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Speaker 8: and you know, these definitions are changing. Is very interesting.

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Speaker 8: Texas is trying to do redistricting this week, and that's

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Speaker 8: all the drama with these legislators who got on the

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Speaker 8: run to Illinois, very jerrymandered state itself. That is all

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Speaker 8: kicked off by a letter that I sent to State

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Speaker 8: of Texas over for districts in Texas that are inconsistent

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Speaker 8: with federal law. And now it's very interesting that the

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Speaker 8: governor announced that the redrawn districts also includes several districts

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Speaker 8: that are majority minority, but they will be competitive for

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Speaker 8: Republicans and Democrats to as a jump ball, like both

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Speaker 8: both parties can compete for those they're no longer safe

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Speaker 8: for one party or the other. That's a very America.

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Speaker 8: Demographics change, political viewpoints change, and we shouldn't be locked

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Speaker 8: into some racial spoils that are institutionalized.

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Speaker 1: That is fascinating and kind of wrapping up. Is there

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Speaker 1: anything I mean, we talked a lot about the DEI.

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Speaker 1: Is there anything that is on your docket that the

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Speaker 1: American people should look out for in the coming months

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Speaker 1: and coming years.

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Speaker 8: Well, you know, gosh, there's so much that we're dealing

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Speaker 8: with that we haven't had a chance to get to

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Speaker 8: k through twelve discrimination, transgender related issues or something. The

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Speaker 8: DJ is tackling head on. Where we have the first

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Speaker 8: ever Second Amendment section coming soon into the Civil Rights Division,

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Speaker 8: where we will be standing up for the rights of

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Speaker 8: American citizens visa be their gun rights under the Second Amendment.

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Speaker 8: That's a new thing that we instituted here under my leadership.

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Speaker 8: And so we're really excited to redefine what civil rights

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Speaker 8: means for Americans within the meaning of the law but

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Speaker 8: also current priorities of this administration. And I'm really thrilled

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Speaker 8: and honored that President Trump and Pam Bondi put their

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and we're all excited to see you guys, probably

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Speaker 1: not the terminology I should use, but crack some heads

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Speaker 1: over there at the DOJ. It's been really interesting to

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Speaker 1: watch and we're looking forward to everything you guys have

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Speaker 1: coming down the pike here, Assittant Attorney General Harmeat Dylan,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for taking the time, Thanks for

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Speaker 1: think it's Matt Walsh that has been putting this video

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Speaker 1: all over the place. It is fascinating, it is horrifying.

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Speaker 1: It is so many different things, crazy being the utmost.

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Speaker 1: Watch this and we'll discuss I.

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Speaker 13: Will die on this hill. I'm specifically talking about the

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Speaker 13: Innga here. We're not talking about the Mishika.

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Speaker 8: That's a whole.

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Speaker 13: Separate type of sacrifice. If we're just looking at to

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Speaker 13: want to ensue you the catch up people of the

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Speaker 13: Incan Empire. They practice sacrifices like most other civilzations throughout

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Speaker 13: history did in times of crisis, so famine, natural disasters.

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Speaker 13: But the unique thing about the Quetchua is that when

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Speaker 13: you're looking at like the Inco civilization, you essentially have

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Speaker 13: the elites and then you have everyone else. Sacrifices were

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Speaker 13: volunteers from the elite class, because they believed that the

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Speaker 13: elites were closer to the gods and could therefore appease

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Speaker 13: them better. Also, in terms of sacrifice, they were kind

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Speaker 13: about it. Hear me out, because unlike the Mashika, when

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Speaker 13: you're like ripping out a still beating heart out of

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Speaker 13: someone's chest, the Inca would intentionally use coca leaves and

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Speaker 13: would use chicha and would drug up the sacrifice and

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Speaker 13: then leave them on a mountain, a cold chili mountain,

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Speaker 13: to be exposed to the elements, which, if you're good,

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Speaker 13: a volunteer sacrifice where you're heavily drugged before you die. Also,

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Speaker 13: I mean, I can equate human sacrifice throughout history to

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Speaker 13: so many things, and I think the fact that a

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Speaker 13: lot of people are commenting, oh, but the sacrifice is

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Speaker 13: again indicative of the fact that you have received a

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Speaker 13: quite white education, because you are knowing them for the

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Speaker 13: bad things that they have done and not all of

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Speaker 13: the wonders that they accomplished. So I hope that this

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Speaker 13: maybe helps you understand a different part my most favorite

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Speaker 1: This is one of those where like how much do

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Speaker 1: we really need to say there. I think she said

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Speaker 1: it all just for herself, but in case it needs

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Speaker 1: to be reiterated at any length, Sacrificing children is bad.

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Speaker 1: We shouldn't do that. We also shouldn't glorify cultures that

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Speaker 1: did that. Some cultures are different and some cultures are better.

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Speaker 1: That's just the way the world works. I believe the

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Speaker 1: Christian Western culture is the best, and the American ideal

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Speaker 1: is the best exemplification of that culture where we don't

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Speaker 1: sacrifice kids. And by the way, well they were kind

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Speaker 1: about it. She literally said it. They were kind about

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Speaker 1: their child sacrifice, as if a volunteer eight year old

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Speaker 1: being drugged and left on a mountain to die to

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Speaker 1: appease the gods was kind in any stretch of the imagination.

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Speaker 1: The bottom line here is that sometimes you should just

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Speaker 1: be able to take these people's arguments and go, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna respond to that, even though what

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Speaker 1: we're doing right here is responding to that. It's just

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Speaker 1: in case it needs to be explained, and he lives

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Speaker 1: out there, there's really no justifying sacrificing children, especially if

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Speaker 1: you're gonna make the case like she is that Ah

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Speaker 1: they did it in a they killed you in a

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Speaker 1: more humane way. Get out of here anyways, that's gonna

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Speaker 1: do it for us here at turning Point, Ton, I

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Speaker 1: appreciate you sticking around. Charlie's gonna take us out. We'll

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Speaker 1: be back, same time, same place tomorrow. God bless America.

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Speaker 12: So I'm glad to see that they're still doing it

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Speaker 12: because I think it helps us in the long bat

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Speaker 12: for the country. But it is a disaster for the country.

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Speaker 12: It's a disaster for our daughters. Uh, it's an absolute embarrassment.

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Speaker 12: I mean again, as a father of a girl athlete,

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Speaker 12: to say that, like, hey, you're just gonna have to

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Speaker 12: deal with it because that guy's.

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Speaker 1: Not yet.

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Speaker 12: How would you, Oh, I'd be vocal, I'd.

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Speaker 9: Be what's parents that have to deal? I mean I

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Speaker 9: think it's I think dads need to start rising up

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Speaker 9: and saying we're not going to put up with this stuff.

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Speaker 9: I mean, what is this?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 9: Well, hey, and because I know you, I don't think

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Speaker 12: With this now, not even like and this will get

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Speaker 12: me into trouble, but like.

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Speaker 1: You have to call it out yet, you know.

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Speaker 12: Enough of the nonsense, Like there there's no political capital

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Speaker 12: in destroying your child's future. Uh, to be woke, to

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Speaker 12: be able to get the applause, you know, like from

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Speaker 12: you know that crowd who hates your guts anyway, And so,

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Speaker 12: you know, I think it's so fundamentally important that we

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Speaker 12: all have to become unafraid to speak up on these

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Speaker 12: kinds of issues. And when you do, you realize there's

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Speaker 12: actually a lot of us, it's the vast majority. But again,

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Speaker 12: for years we've been put into these corners. There was

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Speaker 12: a time where if you said these things, you'd be canceled,

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Speaker 12: you'd be thrown off social media, you'd be thrown out

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Speaker 12: of the PTA meeting. You know, you couldn't do that.

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Speaker 12: So we have to stand strong for this. I've gone

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Speaker 12: through enough of the you know, the child athlete sports thing.

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Speaker 12: I have five kids. I'll get in trouble as a

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Speaker 12: dad again for saying this, which is like, you know,

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Speaker 12: there's nothing quite as painful as like a three year

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Speaker 12: old's like triple header and softball. Like if you're going

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Speaker 12: to put in years of that kind of time and

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Speaker 12: then your daughter or your you know, your kid becomes

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Speaker 12: a great athlete and you just say, oh, well, I

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Speaker 12: guess it was a good run. They're better than the

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Speaker 12: other girls. But there's three dudes. They just took their spot.

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Speaker 12: I guess we're just gonna take it. You know that's

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Speaker 12: not gonna work that that's the way society fails.

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Speaker 9: So in closing your don I know that, and thanks

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Speaker 9: for being generous of your time. You've got a pack schedule.

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Speaker 9: The question we get a lot from the audience is Charlie,

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Speaker 9: how do I deal with the hate? Picking up on

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Speaker 9: something you said. You said it briefly, you said, the

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Speaker 9: hate feels me. I love the hate. Yeah, because if

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Speaker 9: you look at these amazing students, and do you notice

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Speaker 9: don we give the best tickets to our students? They

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Speaker 9: should write these are the warriors right here. So when

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Speaker 9: they say, Charlie, how do I deal with the hate

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Speaker 9: in my high school? How do I do with that

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Speaker 9: hit my college? You are uniquely positioned to be able

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Speaker 9: to answer that because you've been hauled in front of Congress,

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Speaker 9: You've been investigated, you've got a decade. Hey, I think

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Speaker 9: of the second most death threats in the country, next

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Speaker 9: to your father. How do you deal with that? What's

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Speaker 9: your advice to the patriots of all ages that don't

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Speaker 9: know how to deal with that kind of hate.

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Speaker 12: Listen, you get used to it, okay. So for me,

867
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 12: it actually started less about just the hate. It was

868
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 12: more about the cancel of culture. It was you know,

869
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 12: we built hotels and buildings. We did that in a

870
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,839
Speaker 12: lot of cities, most of them are liberal cities. We

871
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 12: were you know, I got invited to every cool person

872
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 12: party in New York City for decades, and then you know,

873
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 12: it was gone like that, And I was like, wow,

874
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 12: Like these people that I thought were friends for decades,

875
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 12: they don't call anymore. Then when you won, they called it, Oh,

876
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:08,879
Speaker 12: I love what you were doing. I was like, no, dude,

877
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 12: I was reading your Facebook posts like, you know, you're

878
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 12: just trying to have the best of both worlds. It

879
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 12: does take time, but but I realized it was it

880
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 12: was actually better, even from a business standpoint, to be

881
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:23,360
Speaker 12: a leader for a large group. But if it was

882
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 12: fifty percent of the country, it's like, wow, there's still

883
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 12: something there, right. I'd rather be you know, thought of

884
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:31,400
Speaker 12: by them as someone who's willing to have that conviction

885
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 12: to fight for these things, then be sort of agnostic

886
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 12: to the general population. It was just another guy that

887
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 12: was there. So it took a lot of time. I

888
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 12: mean it took a lot of you know, you know,

889
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 12: I lost hundreds of millions in business, not just on

890
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 12: the sort of the law fair side of things that

891
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 12: we were fighting, but just people canceling goes, well, one

892
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 12: person in a group of one hunter doesn't like you,

893
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 12: so we're just not going to go to your hotels.

894
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:53,359
Speaker 1: That was hard to.

895
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 12: Get used to. But once you got used to it,

896
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 12: you realized there's still hope and what you're fighting for

897
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 12: is so much more important the grand scheme of things. Again,

898
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 12: you don't have to do everything like I did. I

899
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:05,359
Speaker 12: sort of took the aggressive approach on everything. You can

900
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 12: have these conversations respectfully. I love what you do, and

901
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:10,879
Speaker 12: we've done We did this in sixteen and fifteen.

902
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 9: Been doing it for ten years, Donna and I. Well,

903
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 9: who thinks don should come to a college campus with

904
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 9: me this tonight?

905
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 1: What that peja?

906
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 9: I think?

907
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 12: By popular demand, by popular demand, listen. We were doing

908
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 12: it before it was like a daily thing, when it

909
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 12: was like, hey, once a month we'd go to We

910
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 12: went to Penn State. We went to one it was

911
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 12: up in Michigan, Michigan State. We went up there. At

912
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:36,280
Speaker 12: this is sixteen campaign and it was me and Charlie

913
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 12: and another friend of ours, Temmy Yeah, and we literally

914
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 12: were about to get on the stage and the state

915
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 12: police were there and they showed up, the state police,

916
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 12: like the Michigan State Police showed up and were like,

917
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 12: hey man, you know, we can't tell you not to

918
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 12: do this, but like this is bad, and you know,

919
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 12: the university of course made sure that all the radicals

920
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 12: could get in even though we oversold to the groups

921
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 12: that were people like us, and that was fine, you've

922
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 12: seen all of this, and they go, we can't stop

923
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,760
Speaker 12: you from doing it, but we also can't guarantee your safety.

924
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 12: And we're putting out like a notice right now that

925
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 12: like you should not do this, like it's against you know,

926
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:15,720
Speaker 12: common sense to be going out there. And we basically

927
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 12: looked at each other. So I literally said, like I

928
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 12: would rather get my ass kicked right here right now. Uh,

929
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 12: you know, then capitulate to the woke mob.

930
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Speaker 1: And we did.

931
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Speaker 12: And it was actually amazing. We were backstage, we were

932
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 12: about to go on and like what was it was

933
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 12: like the offensive line of the football team showed up

934
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 12: like he's like, we love you guys, We're just here.

935
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 12: If anything goes wrong, don't you worry? Like I mean,

936
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:44,800
Speaker 12: these guys were like are un hired, unannounced, like security detail.

937
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 12: I'm looking at this guy. I'm not a small guy.

938
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 12: I'm six one one ninety five, and I was like

939
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 12: looking at this guy, was like I don't want to

940
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 12: meet that guy if he's on the other side. But like, uh,

941
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 12: we went out and the energy in the room there

942
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 12: there was a tension, and you know, our guys sort

943
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 12: of hit these guys with facts and reality and just

944
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 12: sort of shut him down. And so you know what

945
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 12: Charlie does when he goes there, he doesn't lose his cool.

946
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,360
Speaker 12: He keeps the tumbary. He talks about facts, and you

947
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 12: realize their arguments fall apart so quickly because they don't

948
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 12: actually have anything other than sort of the high level

949
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:17,799
Speaker 12: SoundBite that they're talking about. And so when you're able

950
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 12: to reason with him, you see most of these people

951
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 12: they walk away. They're like I thought I was going

952
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:22,879
Speaker 12: to own this guy, and they're just they're broken. When

953
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 12: they walk off the stage. Everyone sees it, everyone knows it.

954
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:28,359
Speaker 12: So you don't have to do it perhaps the way

955
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 12: we did it. And I'm even trying to alter some

956
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 12: of that now because now again there's a broader coalition.

957
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 12: We don't have to just be so forceful with it.

958
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:38,800
Speaker 12: You can do it with facts, logic, reason and decency.

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Speaker 9: Don I speak on behalf of all of our students.

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Speaker 9: Thank you for all you do for our movement.

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Speaker 1: You work your

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Speaker 9: Tail off, Donald Trump, John here everybody day