1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:01,840 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, me hind there. I just want to give 2 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: you a heads up. The program you are about to 3 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: hear may have some explicit language, it may not. It 4 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 1: also depends on where the vibes and the spirit leads us. 5 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: Hope you enjoy. Welcome to more Anita, a deep dive 6 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 1: into the Latin X experience. With more Anita, we want 7 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: to create a community and a shared space with you 8 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: while sharing knowledge and inspiration. This show is about celebrating 9 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: our culture with guests who exemplify the best of us. 10 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:42,559 Speaker 1: I'm Darrylene Castillo Ethane Viatle me hind. The winter is 11 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 1: coming and during this cold season here in beautiful Nuiva, 12 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 1: You're one of my favorite things to do is cuddle 13 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: up with my dog babies and my boo and watch 14 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: a movie, which is why this episode you are about 15 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: to hear is such a good one for this time 16 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: of year. We have film Talk in the house. Film 17 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 1: Talk is an audio visual podcast and YouTube channel that 18 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: focuses on the analysis of film and television from the 19 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: lens of two Caribbean women from Puerto Rico, Eleana Melendez 20 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 1: and our beloved producer here at Mounanita, Josie Melendez. No, 21 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: they are not related, but why are these badass women 22 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 1: so freaking dope? One they were the first female critics 23 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:34,320 Speaker 1: from NASLA to be approved as Rotten Tomato critics, and 24 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: two they were one of the first female critics to 25 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 1: attend the festival the con in person. They are wrapping 26 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: it for the Latino folks on those red carpets and 27 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: showing that we too have opinions that deserve to be 28 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: heard and noted. On this episode, we discussed how they 29 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: met on the island and how seeing a huge lack 30 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: of representation lad them to creating their own space, and 31 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: how that has led them to becoming some pretty badass 32 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: voices in the critic world. Yes, they critique, and they 33 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 1: do it very well, but they have other goals and 34 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: visions for themselves, and we dive heavy on that. I 35 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: was inspired by this interview for many reasons, and you 36 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: yourself will be as well. The sheer fact that they 37 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: saw a voice that was missing within a space. They 38 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: saw a lack of diversity within opinionated critique groups and 39 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 1: decided to create a space for those who are underrepresented 40 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: to amplify their voices. I think if there's any lesson 41 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 1: you take from this episode. It is to create space 42 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: for yourself. If you don't see that there is one 43 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 1: for you, don't just wait for it to be made 44 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 1: for you. Do it. Make the space and be about it. 45 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: Don't just talk about it. They beat them well. Josie, 46 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 1: our producer for mo Anita, has entered the room with Indiana, 47 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: and Josie and Indiana are also both hosts of a 48 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: podcast called Film Talk, who also listen. I know, I'm like, 49 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 1: I'm like Josie insert applause there there. Um, I was 50 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: just making some jokes because I was like, how do 51 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: you pronounce the podcast? Because to me, I was like 52 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: few mid but like the cinephile, like the pinky and 53 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: the exactly. Um. I was like, this is a bougie 54 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: film podcast, ladies and gentlemen, but there's so much to 55 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: talk about with you guys, like movies. Um. But also 56 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: so proud of you all when I was reading some 57 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: facts about you guys, and you guys were the first 58 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: female critics to attend the festive. All the con is 59 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 1: it con or cols is? It depends, But most people 60 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: depends on who you're talking. I think. So it's just 61 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 1: it's just cans or if you're my dad, you say 62 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: Lada's I was like, what, that's insane. First off, it's insane, 63 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: but also I feel like not that big of a 64 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:23,720 Speaker 1: like it's kind of sad at the same time because 65 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 1: it's like for female critics de Lasla from Puerto Rico 66 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: to actually go and cover Can, like it just kind 67 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 1: of goes to show how little female critics representation there 68 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: is on the island. It literally made me tear a 69 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: little bit because it was one of those things where 70 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: we went and I remember just so many of the 71 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 1: other critics on the island just being so impressed, like 72 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 1: you're going to Can. What the heck? It's so hard. 73 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 1: Will asked around because at last some Puerto Rico, Um, 74 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 1: it's very well known for people to go to the 75 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: can market. Yeah, for publicity and all that, but for 76 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: some criticism. Like we asked around and there were some 77 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: people that have gone with like Anualia, which is the 78 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 1: local newspaper and stuff like that, but we didn't really 79 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: hear about any other women. It's always usually men. So 80 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that someone at some point must have 81 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: gone before us, but we don't know anything about it. 82 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: So many people were making such a big deal, and 83 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 1: it was like, this is kind of sad because we 84 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: should know this. Yeah right right, but you guys did it, 85 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 1: and like you guys are continuing to do it, which 86 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: is badass. And um, I mean every day I'm like, 87 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: I love Josie. We're like, we're big, We're big team 88 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: Josie over here. Right now we're celebrating because a little 89 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: plug for the podcast for the people that don't know, 90 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 1: we made it as the show of the month on 91 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: Apple podcast Give it Up for Moment started started from 92 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: the bottom. Now we're here a man, Yes, salute to 93 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: us as plasa to everybody. August, Carlos and Josie are 94 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 1: huge squad here at so not all um, but beyond that, 95 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 1: how do you guys know each other? Oh we met 96 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:15,239 Speaker 1: in college? Yeah, we met in college. Actually we met 97 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: because I don't know if you've heard of like her campus. Um, 98 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: it's like this, Um, I don't want to say soroyalty. 99 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: It's very much soty branding. Her campus is like this 100 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: big platform that has like different chapters in different um colleges, 101 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: like Universities Online magazine. Yeah, it's kind of like a 102 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: Refinery twenty nine, but for like college women. They called 103 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: themselves like the Collegiates UM. So yeah, so her campus 104 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: has a chapter in UPR, so we were we became 105 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: like part of that chapter. So we became part of 106 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: the team and we met through there literally like a 107 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: month before her came Maria. We met barely got to 108 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: know each other, and then we couldn't see each other 109 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: for like two months. Yeah, but we just we met 110 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: through there. We rose to like director's positions pretty quickly, yeah, 111 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: because I started off as a junior editor and then 112 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: like like a couple of weeks or like a month, 113 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: they were like your senior editor now, because I was 114 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: like pumping out articles so quickly. And that's how I 115 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: met Alanna because I would basically like edit the articles 116 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: for the entire chapter. And then Eleana specifically worked with 117 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: the social media. Yeah, I was a social media director 118 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: for a hot minute, and then we actually we founded 119 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: the press team that didn't exist for that for that 120 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 1: chapter at the time, and I was like, why doesn't exist, 121 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: especially like with everything that's happening on campus, like with 122 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: Jerricane Maria, with protests, with budget cuts, like there wasn't 123 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: on campus like student Run. I mean there still is 124 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure there is a student run um like 125 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: like you know, press outlet, but it was still very um, 126 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure at the time, it was very male driven. 127 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: It was very male oriented and just it was a 128 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: majority of men and male journalists there. And I was like, 129 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: we have female journalism students that are here on her campus. 130 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 1: We should give them a platform to be able to 131 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: like practice their journalism and what they're doing and actually 132 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: cover things from a female perspective. So I was like, 133 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: let's just make a press team, which is really just 134 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: let's make a press team. So you just make a 135 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: separate chat, right, You're like girls girls only. We did have. 136 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: That was the fun part of it. It wasn't necessarily 137 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 1: girls only. You had non binary people. You have sometimes 138 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: queer mean as well. So it's like, girl it's for 139 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: the cheese days and gays, it's for the inclusivity exactly. Yeah. 140 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: So we just saw, you know, all these marginalized voices 141 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: just not really being given a platform, even on our 142 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: own diverse campus. I was like, well, let's just let's 143 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: go from there. So yeah, that's kind of how we 144 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: we started out, and then we did a road to 145 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 1: Oscars campaign. It's That's how our publication kind of journey 146 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: started when it came to like talking about movies, which 147 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: was the road to Oscars, which was the first time 148 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: that I was like actually excited about the Oscars because 149 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: I was covering for something and that was the first 150 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 1: time that I was interested in it because I have 151 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: a lot of friends that are like the Oscars are 152 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: their sins, they were born hire like hills. Yes, but 153 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: I was, I mean, I'm one of the people that 154 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 1: was like Oscars used to be in my life until 155 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: I've just never until I got older and then like 156 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: realizing that the industry um likes to use me as 157 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: a token, and then I was like, I don't like 158 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:57,319 Speaker 1: the Oscars anymore than I went like five years without 159 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:00,839 Speaker 1: watching it, and then I still I'm still like in 160 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: a limbo of like watching Awards shows. I still haven't 161 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 1: gotten like the hook of like that exciting energy again. 162 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 1: And I think it's just like maybe because being in 163 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 1: the industry and like feeling the weight of it all, 164 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 1: like it's it's you're also attending the Tony Is, which 165 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: is much better, but the Tony's we gotta have you 166 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:27,199 Speaker 1: guys in the Tonys. We gotta get you guys in 167 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: the Tony that's the next time film talk. That's in 168 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: the Broadway Musical edition. I love this. Oh my god. 169 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: Can I be a part of the crew. Can I 170 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: be a part of the group chat? Exactly? We just 171 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:46,199 Speaker 1: discussed like Broadway musical adaptations, and like this is why 172 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: I love you for that. Actually I want I want 173 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 1: in okay, backstage with the Tony Trophy. Girl, you know, 174 00:10:54,920 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 1: let's do it. Let's do it. Let's talk about your podcast. 175 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 1: I mean, everybody loves the movie. I love movies. I 176 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: just saw Women King. Yeah, completely transformed my life. I 177 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 1: cried throughout the whole thing. I don't know what the 178 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:21,719 Speaker 1: I don't know if it was my hormones, what the 179 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: hell I was going through, but that that screens turned 180 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 1: on and like the words started going like the Star Wars, 181 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 1: like the Street of the Words, and I was like, 182 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 1: fans like are you okay? And I'm like okay. But 183 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 1: it just reminds me how when Black Panther came out 184 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 1: where regans were crying up because we watched it back 185 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: home in Puerto Rico. Puerto Ricans were crying in the 186 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:46,719 Speaker 1: Black Panther theaters and you'd be like why. And it's 187 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 1: because there's so much of African culture that makes up 188 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 1: the Caribbean, and it was like for a lot of us, 189 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 1: that's like that's the closest we'll get to seeing aspects 190 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 1: of our culture. And so many people that were like 191 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 1: that are actually like black and puitter ego that often 192 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: get denied or told like no, don't know what's going on. 193 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: It was a good gateway for that kind of conversation. 194 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: And I love that we're seeing that now with Woman 195 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 1: King too. Yeah. Yeah, it was just like and even 196 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 1: my sorry babe, but even my fiance, like, you know, 197 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: he got he got on the crying train a little bit. 198 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: He's like, I'm not, I'm not crying, by the way, 199 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 1: come on and know, there's no manlier thing than crying 200 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 1: in the theater. Honestly, it was such a beautiful movie. 201 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: And it also just obviously to see women of color 202 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 1: like in that light and like just kicking ass. Like, honestly, 203 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: I'm a crier at the movies. I'll cry over anything. 204 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: I'll cry, you know, as as problematic as Wonder Woman was, 205 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:51,079 Speaker 1: I cried with that intro scene. I'm like seeing I'm 206 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 1: seeing all these powerful women. I remember we were. It 207 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: was during COVID. We went to see it in a 208 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: drive through INMPR, and I just like both of us 209 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: were like, these women strong. Look Honestly, it's kind of 210 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 1: sad but also like uplifting because it's like, Wow, the 211 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: bar is set so low that just seeing a screen 212 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: full of women being strong is something that will get 213 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: us emotional because we don't actually see that often, but 214 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 1: it goes to show how the importance of it. Like, 215 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:27,199 Speaker 1: even if we do, I don't know if I'll ever 216 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: get used to it, even if the industry does like 217 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 1: somehow miraculously shift more towards being more genuinely inclusive with 218 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: UM It's media, but it's just it's just something else. 219 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: It hits different. I think that's just like that's like 220 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: the simplest way for me to put it. Just hits 221 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: different when I am sitting in a theater and I'm seeing, like, 222 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: especially women of color, because like you can see something 223 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: like I'm not to shade women talking, but like when 224 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 1: you see UM these like oh super quote unquote like 225 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 1: feminist movies that are all just purely exclusively white women, 226 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:04,839 Speaker 1: I can't really connect to that much. I just can't. 227 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 1: It's just not the same. It just doesn't hit the 228 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: same because it's kind of like, for some reason there 229 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 1: is like this there's usually I don't want to generalize, 230 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: but it is sometimes this air of oh my god, 231 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 1: white women are the only women that exists, are like 232 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: they're the only ones oppressed, and it's like, oh, intersexual, no, 233 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: feminism doesn't exist. So no, it's just one of those things. 234 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 1: I think, that's all. Yeah, So it's just one of 235 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: those you know, talking about movies, like it's one of 236 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 1: those things that I think kind of not to tute 237 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: our own horns kind of sets us apart when we 238 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 1: are women talking film because we're not the only women 239 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: talking film. Obviously we're not a majority, of course, but 240 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: our perspective as women and you know technically women of 241 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: color and women of the Caribbean born and raised in 242 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 1: the Caribbean is something that we bring to the table 243 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: and we're able to be a little bit more critical 244 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: in our lens um and not just kind of accept 245 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: whatever quote unquote representation comes our ways, Like oh my god, 246 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: you should be like going off about women talking and 247 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 1: like I was not that inspired by women talking, especially 248 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 1: like in Josie. You know, you told me about the 249 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 1: kind of the the source the women that they were 250 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: from you is based on a story from Bolivia, and 251 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: it's like, that's a lot of American country. Yeah. So 252 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: so it's very interesting because it's basically being done as 253 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: a gateway for these white actresses to have you know, 254 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: that Oscar Bus And it's like, but what about the 255 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: actual story story? Yeah, what about the meat of it? 256 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 1: What about the thing? What about the facts? The facts? 257 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: What about the facts? What about the context? Let's talk 258 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: about the context. That's why when I see things that 259 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 1: are just kind of when they have like these token 260 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: castings for these bigger shows, it's kind of hard for 261 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: me to be like super excited about it, which is sad. 262 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: I don't like to be a cynical person, but it 263 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: comes to a point where you're not even cynically, you're 264 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 1: just critical. So I do want to see our stories 265 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: being uplifted. I do want to be part of that 266 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: driving force that make sure that we do talk about 267 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: these things and we do see this media but it's 268 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: not it is not something totally inappropriate to criticize it 269 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 1: if it's not done well. Like Cordit the Chronicles, it 270 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 1: was one of those few moments where I was like, 271 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: oh my god, this is actually done, like relatively well, 272 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: like I actually really enjoyed this. This was filmed a 273 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: pr you have like you have Caribbean at least Caribbean 274 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 1: sounding actors, because I feel like that's like the the 275 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: bar is set so low when you have people playing uh, 276 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 1: characters from the Caribbean, from the Dominican Republic Puerto Rico, UM, 277 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 1: speaking Spanish, it sounds like Google Translate. It's just not translate. 278 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 1: And when I'm telling to see you right now, when 279 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: we get the scripts, when we get the the scripts 280 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: to audition for these things, UM, from the actor's perspective, 281 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 1: it literally is Google Translate. Also the other thing, too, 282 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:07,719 Speaker 1: is that that really frustrates me is with Spanish and 283 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:11,719 Speaker 1: with what these scripts are pushing out and giving to us, 284 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 1: the actors. There's two things, okay. One the ones that 285 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:19,120 Speaker 1: give us the English scripts and they're like, you guys translated, 286 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:22,120 Speaker 1: you do it because all Spanish is the same, right, 287 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: So you guys, you the actor, you are also a 288 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: translator now and now you just translate it yourself, right, Okay. 289 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:33,400 Speaker 1: That pisses me off because where's my translator feeds? And secondly, 290 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: we all don't sound the same, you know what I mean, Like, 291 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:39,360 Speaker 1: if there's a specific kind of Spanish you want, then 292 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: you need to state that right because now we're talking facts. 293 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 1: Now we're talking sticking to the facts. Secondly, I hate 294 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 1: when it's gool translate Spanish. I hate when I could 295 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 1: read it and I'm like, if I'm supposed to be 296 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: cheat gana or whatever is whatever that's giving me here, 297 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 1: and they're gonna use some term that, I'm like, we 298 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 1: would they would never say that. That's not even Let 299 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: me call my sis who's may Ghana and she knows. 300 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 1: I'm like, yo is this and she's like, Sis, we 301 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: would never say that. I'm like, exactly, I'm the kind 302 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 1: of person that I'm like, I'm just like, we're gonna 303 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 1: say how We're gonna say We're gonna say it properly, 304 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: or I'm gonna say it how Darylyn Domnicana says it. 305 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 1: Because you want to hired Darryln Dominicana, then you're gonna 306 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: hire Darylin the Minicana. I will say, most of the 307 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 1: time when I do stuff like that, I don't get 308 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 1: hired for the role. And then not only that, and 309 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 1: then when you find out the writing team is all 310 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: white American people, and then you're like, that makes sense, 311 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 1: that actually checks out since it happens so often. I 312 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 1: was doing a tape for the series Regular for a 313 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 1: new show that that's coming out on HBO. I won't 314 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 1: say the name of it, but my teacher, his friend 315 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: is a writer, and my teacher is a Latino Latino guy, 316 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:51,199 Speaker 1: and he's like, oh, oh yeah, I know this series 317 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:54,880 Speaker 1: coming out on HBO. It's written by all white men. 318 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: My friend my friend is one of the white men, 319 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: and I'm like, and he's like, Daryl, and do whatever 320 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:02,439 Speaker 1: the funk you want on the self take because they 321 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 1: don't know what the funk they're doing, okay, and it's 322 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:06,919 Speaker 1: that kind of energy. I know some people that have 323 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 1: gotten the role and then since the Latins and specified, 324 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 1: they're like, hey, I'm Puerto Rican? Can I make my 325 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 1: character Puerto Rican? The lecture right right? It feels like 326 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 1: those are like really rare instances, but sometimes they do 327 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:23,640 Speaker 1: work because you can feel that on the other side, 328 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: because if they embrace what that actor is bringing into 329 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 1: the role and actually support that and nurture that, then 330 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:37,159 Speaker 1: honestly all for it. But also where's the check? You know, 331 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 1: thank you, That's what I'm saying. And then the shows 332 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:44,360 Speaker 1: that feel authentic, the shows that feel good for us, 333 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 1: right then they're gone, Like what do you guys think 334 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 1: that's about? Oh started, You're like how much time do 335 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: we have? Because it's so sad, because um, I was 336 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: able to write about this a while ago. You know, 337 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:04,400 Speaker 1: all the good shows with like good representation and just 338 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 1: that are happy, like, yes, there are shows that a 339 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 1: lot of people had problems with, and yes we are 340 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 1: allowed to criticize our shows in our movies because nothing's 341 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: perfect and if something is tringful, call it out. But 342 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 1: we are losing these shows that are like we got 343 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 1: so many romcoms recently, like Baker in the Beauty for example, 344 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 1: And yet the shows that get renewed are those like nauticals. 345 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: And yes, there is a reality and that it does happen. 346 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 1: We're not going to deny. But why is this the 347 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 1: only thing you want to see? Right? Is so good? 348 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 1: Though I got to be so good? I feel like there, 349 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:40,360 Speaker 1: I feel like I would just watch it for the actors, honestly, 350 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: like bad Bunnies, And you guys are the guy the 351 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: guy that played I'm sad. I don't know his name, 352 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 1: but like, oh my god, the guy that plays and 353 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 1: he's coming into he he's the new Black panther. Oh, 354 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 1: oh my god. You guys know that, right? Oh my god? 355 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: You okay? That man is I'm sorry, yeah, he's my 356 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,880 Speaker 1: wallpaper right now. I'm not even joking. He's coming. He's 357 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 1: coming for everyone's next hope. So respectfully presents on screen respectfully. 358 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 1: No if I speak, No, if I speak sometimes I'm like, 359 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: I have to be professional. I don't. I don't know, 360 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 1: you know what, let's talk about it. That man period. Fine, 361 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 1: And then just you know, it was just so funny 362 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 1: to see so many people, like even the creator of 363 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: that character criticized his body and his body shape is like, oh, 364 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 1: he's not fit enough. And I'm like, sir, where where's 365 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 1: your Where is your Planet fitness gym membership? Your membership? 366 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: If you sixty five year old white man, where is it? 367 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:58,919 Speaker 1: I'm no. I mean even my even even like my 368 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 1: fiance was like, oh man, I could, I'm like, I know, 369 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,360 Speaker 1: he's that guy. And also what makes him even more 370 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: attractive is the fact that he's just been calling out 371 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 1: white people and like the discrimination that's happening nothing like 372 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 1: other people in the industry, And I'm like, it's still 373 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:24,919 Speaker 1: but it's but also he's good, right, so then you're like, damn, 374 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:29,679 Speaker 1: and he's like freaking Oscar like level of actor. Like 375 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 1: I'm hoping they better get another SAG Ensemble nomination. Honestly, 376 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 1: movies out right now. I mean we talked about women King. 377 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: That's like really changing the game and shifting the vibe. 378 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 1: But like I'm kind of bored with everything else. Yeah, 379 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 1: it's an interesting season right now. It just I haven't 380 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:47,439 Speaker 1: seen it, but a lot of people are liking it, 381 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 1: even though it only did like four point eight million 382 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: in the box office, which is kind of really does 383 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 1: well in the box office nowadays. Let's talk about this 384 00:22:55,920 --> 00:23:00,160 Speaker 1: if you're talking crue like right right, but let's talk 385 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 1: about how the film. Okay, like who really goes to 386 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,119 Speaker 1: the movies anymore. That's saying like if you have an 387 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 1: AMC membership card, that's probably like the people that are going. 388 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:09,919 Speaker 1: That's why I go to the movies. That's the only 389 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 1: way I can't afford it. Um, that's a big thing. 390 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: The movie to the movies uture it is a premium 391 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: it's not accessible especially like I still live in Puerto Rico. 392 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 1: It's it's still here. I can go to the movies 393 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 1: for lesson ten bucks, as in like a normal thing, 394 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 1: and that's still something that I have to like, you know, 395 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: kind of plan out. It's like, Okay, I'm going to 396 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 1: the movies this weekend. This is my like my little 397 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 1: budget beccodding in the movies in New York. Jesus Christ. 398 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 1: I think something that's really crazy and a lot of 399 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 1: like these big time filmmakers, especially like these white filmmakers 400 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 1: that are just completely ignoring like, oh, people don't go 401 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 1: to the movies anymore, movies, movies anymore. Normal is the 402 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: only thing that's working because the families are the ones 403 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: that are saving the movie theaters. They're taking their kids, 404 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 1: so they're not in my house as much. But the 405 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 1: thing is that also that's your revenue because it's literally 406 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 1: like family like five and six and that's more than 407 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 1: a hundred bucks. It's volume, right, people have to like like, Okay, 408 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,919 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take my kids to see Black Panther. That's like, 409 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 1: I know, like my family we were able to go 410 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 1: to the movies so often because we would go to 411 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 1: like first showings that were like, you know, the budget screening. 412 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:25,199 Speaker 1: I am the ten am that was that is the 413 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 1: show you That's how I grew up. My mom would 414 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,679 Speaker 1: literally because my parents would love to take me to 415 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 1: the movies, and that's those are earliest memory. But it's 416 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,399 Speaker 1: also like we also get them now, I mean selected movies. 417 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,679 Speaker 1: We get him on our couches, right, and like with 418 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 1: the pandemic now everybody's like, honestly, I will say, I 419 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 1: did check if Woman King was streaming you know whatever, dude, 420 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: like that whatever it was on, if it was on 421 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: a platform, and it wasn't, And I was like, I 422 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 1: have to go to the movies. Then I go to 423 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 1: the movies and then I'm like I walk in and 424 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm transported back in the eighties and 425 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 1: I'm like, hell designed this the or what's going on 426 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 1: in here? Those are the best ones. But wait, I 427 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 1: will say after I got out and like I missed 428 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 1: this man. Nostalgia. This is nostalgia, like this feeling of 429 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 1: like I remember like when my mom used to drop 430 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: me off at the mall. Like I know, you guys, 431 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 1: you kids don't know what I'm talking. Yeah. Yeah. Puerto 432 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 1: Rico State guys talking about you, like talking about some 433 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 1: of these other gen z eears on here know what, 434 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 1: Yeah they don't. I don't know about the mall, you know, 435 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 1: but yeah, that nostalgia, like that that energy, like it 436 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 1: just brought it back and me and my fiance I 437 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 1: was like, I was like, we should go to the 438 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 1: movies more often. And also I remember because that was 439 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 1: like a big thing during COVID, right like COVID that 440 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 1: was like how are we going to get? Oh? And 441 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 1: what was the thing that was around before the movie 442 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:01,359 Speaker 1: movie past? Oh my god. I did marketing project and 443 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:05,400 Speaker 1: as an underground on the case that is movie Pass. 444 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:11,400 Speaker 1: Movie Pass is really scandal because let me tell you, wait, 445 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 1: isn't it coming back? Email? I got one of the 446 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 1: exclusive emails telling me that it might be coming back, 447 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,159 Speaker 1: and like if I want to be put on the list, 448 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:27,639 Speaker 1: like hello, loyal followers. Know it almost has like cult 449 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 1: status and like the movie movie community because movie Pass 450 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 1: was high key not a scam. I don't want to 451 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 1: see an outright scan if I remember correctly, because it 452 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 1: was like three or four years ago that I studied this, 453 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 1: like an entire semester dedicated to this, like straight up 454 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: at in a marketing management class, and their strategy was, 455 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 1: you know, oh, you pay what ten bucks a month 456 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 1: to see, like I don't know, three movies or as 457 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 1: many movies as you want in the movie theater. But 458 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: here's the thing. Not it's not like here in Puerto 459 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 1: Rico where there's a monopoly with the movie theater chain. 460 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,679 Speaker 1: It's just one movie theater chain you have to deal with. 461 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,479 Speaker 1: You got to deal with multiple movie theater chains across 462 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 1: the United States. You have to deal with like independent 463 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,679 Speaker 1: movie theaters, and you would have they would have to 464 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:17,439 Speaker 1: like buy blocks of tickets from these theaters and those tickets, 465 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 1: sell them and use them for their members. And it 466 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 1: was just not sustainable because then first at first it 467 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 1: wasn't limited and like, okay, you clearly people are going 468 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 1: to use it. If you're paying tennle or is a 469 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 1: month to watch as many movies as you want, you 470 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,440 Speaker 1: bet your little behind that people are going to line 471 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,679 Speaker 1: up at the movie theaters almost every day to do 472 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: that because you're already paying. And then they limited to 473 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: three movies a month, and people still did that, and 474 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:49,120 Speaker 1: it still wasn't profitable enough because most of the money, 475 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:53,159 Speaker 1: the big box office money is that opening weekend, and 476 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:54,879 Speaker 1: then they started limiting that. It's like, oh, you can 477 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: use these tickets to see something that's not on opening weekend. 478 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,959 Speaker 1: I remember that. Yeah, it's like a whole thing that 479 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,679 Speaker 1: it just kept like falling in on itself strategy wise, 480 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,360 Speaker 1: So it's just kind of crazy. I'm interested in intrigue 481 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 1: just because I'm so invested already. I'm like, I'm invested 482 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,479 Speaker 1: in movie past. It's not even for tea. I just 483 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: need to see how the story ends because it's like 484 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 1: to be continued. So I think I think it's interesting. 485 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,639 Speaker 1: I have no expectations, so I think that's better than 486 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 1: low expectations. But I'm intrigued. But AMC works for a 487 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 1: MC because it's their chain, it's just exclusively their thing, 488 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 1: so they can control it. They can actually like make 489 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 1: money off of it. But when you're like a third party, 490 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 1: then it's like cooling. I am excited to see where 491 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 1: movie theaters, where all that kind of goes, because I 492 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 1: think it is something that still is special. It still 493 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 1: has a special feel. And I don't want to I 494 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: don't want to see it go, you know what I mean? 495 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 1: But and I don't it's just kid me a singlehandedly. 496 00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 1: She really is, right, let's talk about it. Doesn't standing up? 497 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 1: Does she sleep? Ever, She's like, it's like, I don't know, 498 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 1: I don't know something. I don't know the Vampire. No. 499 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 1: I notally did that one movie where like literally the 500 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 1: point of the movie was not to fall asleep. What 501 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 1: movie was It's called The Invasion. I think it's from 502 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 1: like two thousand six. Remember the Aliens. You would get 503 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 1: like affected by the aliens, you couldn't fall asleep. And 504 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 1: she like start like sheking caffeine. Yeah, that's how she 505 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 1: just does her career. She like ever since then, she 506 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,959 Speaker 1: never broke character, like you know how and cafar now 507 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 1: that they're teaching a class on bad bunny and we 508 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 1: just have to teach a class on the cool kid. 509 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 1: That's it's it's the it's these cultural phenomena that genuinely 510 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 1: you can teach a class on, Like who would have 511 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 1: thought people would go so hard for Nicole Kimman in 512 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 1: this Fierce Pinch breaks you know to the point that 513 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 1: your impact is is when drag queens like famous Drag World, 514 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 1: famous drag queens like Spoof you're commercial and you're went 515 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 1: to see Tricksie and got the Radio City Music Hall 516 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 1: and they literally did an entire spoof. Can you believe 517 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 1: at Radio City Musical? You know how many seats are 518 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 1: in there? So wild for two drag queens changed in 519 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 1: my Dame thing. I saw so many kind of famous 520 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: people in, like the queer community there, like g Gorgeous 521 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 1: was there, Judo Birch was there, and I'm like, oh 522 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 1: my god, everybody flew to New York to see these 523 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:35,239 Speaker 1: two biological women just beyond that stage and do some 524 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 1: very interesting quick changes and just spoof. It was called 525 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 1: the spoof was GAMC And I think that's iconic. That's incredible. 526 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 1: Look look how far we look, how far we've come. Honestly, 527 00:30:49,280 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 1: it was alright, keep going, We're gonna keep going. But 528 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 1: for you guys like um, I mean obviously you've been 529 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 1: on some red carpets and done the thing like do 530 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 1: you guys see yourself going beyond film, like critiquing other 531 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 1: things other than film. You guys are so well versed 532 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 1: in culture and like wheels are turned in. I feel 533 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 1: like this is we're just like this is like our 534 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 1: gateway into filmmaking. It's like, well, if they don't want us, 535 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 1: see how we are who will snake our way in. 536 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,239 Speaker 1: We'll start criticizing what they make and then we'll make 537 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 1: anything better. That's this industry. You gotta get in somehow. 538 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 1: And logo you fake it. I made that logo ill 539 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 1: this to see all this, all all these things that 540 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 1: was me because I was like, you know what, I'm 541 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 1: not gonna why would I hire anyone? I already do 542 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 1: this for fun. You're like, this is me, this is 543 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 1: what I do. This is the real me. No, it's 544 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 1: just something that is. It's like, if we're going to 545 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 1: do something, we're going to do it right. We need 546 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 1: it needs to look as fregid as possible. Ever since 547 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 1: there was a lot of people are going to try 548 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 1: to discredit us. And that's what we found. A lot 549 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 1: we've been denied access to a lot of places that 550 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 1: are easily accessible to men, and like, point blank, it's 551 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 1: the truth. And that's definitely been the journey and that's 552 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 1: what we've been trying to change. Um we recently. Our 553 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 1: most recent project is that we are have the Puerto 554 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 1: Rican Critics Association because there wasn't an association before, and 555 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 1: four of us were like, let's make this a thing 556 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 1: because there's a monopoly where traditional outlets are more favored 557 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 1: like radio and newspapers, but showed that we can do 558 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 1: this virtually. We can do this from wherever, and it 559 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 1: shouldn't be limited to like five people. Clearly there are 560 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 1: talent to people doing putting the work in the effort 561 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 1: and for obviously not everyone pursues this like to a 562 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,479 Speaker 1: professional degree like we've been doing. We've been pursuing it, 563 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 1: you know, a little bit more professionally, but that doesn't 564 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 1: like take away like from the people that are genuinely 565 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 1: putting in so much effort into their YouTube channel, into 566 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 1: their their written reviews um because it is at the 567 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 1: end of the day where some of us do this 568 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 1: for fun, but also the the great thing about it 569 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 1: is that we have fun with it. It is a 570 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 1: passion for the arts. It is a passion for for 571 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 1: the movies. Like I think that's kind of a common 572 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 1: thread that unites us um as film critics and just 573 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 1: like people who love film in general. And that's what 574 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 1: makes it not always feel like a job to do. 575 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 1: It's just genuinely feels like, oh my god, we're going 576 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 1: to cover this festival that even if it is technically 577 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 1: a work trip like I've never traveled internationally before that 578 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 1: before can like my passport was pristine, My passport was decorative. 579 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 1: So you know, without like pursuing this, like, it would 580 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 1: not have opened as many doors as it has for 581 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 1: us so far. And I feel like it's just kind 582 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:05,720 Speaker 1: of the beginning. Yeah, let aar Yeah, absolutely no. That honestly, Ken, 583 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 1: I think was a turning point for us because, like, 584 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 1: for example, because of film criticism, because we were credited 585 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 1: as pressed for the festival, I was able to pitch 586 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 1: my feature at the festival to a producer. At the 587 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:18,880 Speaker 1: heart of it, like I want to be a screenwriter, 588 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:20,359 Speaker 1: and then I wants to be a screenwriter. We wanted 589 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 1: to get into filmmaking. And one thing that we always 590 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 1: stress is that we do this to pay tribute and 591 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 1: promote and support the people that are paving the way 592 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,399 Speaker 1: for us, the people that are doing the work now, 593 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,279 Speaker 1: because film criticism is still very much male, is still 594 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,280 Speaker 1: very much white, and that's why a lot of films 595 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,280 Speaker 1: like The Woman King sometimes did not get the respect 596 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 1: it deserves. And now that we're seeing after the pandemic 597 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,920 Speaker 1: really gave access to more people of color doing film criticism, 598 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 1: and that's why we've been seeing better reception for these 599 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:56,719 Speaker 1: films because the people that get it are getting absolutely 600 00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 1: absolutely and also not only that, but you guys are. 601 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 1: And it's something that I always talk about, um with 602 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,359 Speaker 1: I mean the artists that come through here. It's like 603 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 1: you have to do it and talk about it to 604 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 1: at least put that out there and then not only that, 605 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,880 Speaker 1: but be about it. And you guys are both. I 606 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 1: mean I see it every day front seat with what 607 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 1: Josie does with what I need that here, um, and 608 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 1: then how Josie seats about Lana and then what you 609 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 1: guys are doing together within the work that you're doing. Um, 610 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 1: it's evident and it's and y'all are sucking doing it. 611 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 1: And I'm telling you right now as a person who 612 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,759 Speaker 1: is behind the camera and in some of these rooms, 613 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 1: like it is necessary. We need you so um, continue 614 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,440 Speaker 1: doing the damn work and doing the damn thing um 615 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 1: because it's important and uh, we need better scripts. Honestly, 616 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 1: it's a desert out here sometimes in terms of right 617 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 1: good writers. They need to higher Josie jesus hey for 618 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 1: real though now that I think that's something that we 619 00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:01,279 Speaker 1: see often um in this space, especially like you know, 620 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,360 Speaker 1: when you're at a film festival. We were in Toronto 621 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,280 Speaker 1: just now in September, and you watch like ten eleven, 622 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 1: fifteen movies in a weekend, like in to span a 623 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:13,759 Speaker 1: few days, and you consume so much media and like such, 624 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,360 Speaker 1: what is such a common threat is that everybody wants 625 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,319 Speaker 1: to be a director. Everybody wants like their name to 626 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,400 Speaker 1: be you know, big, loud and proud, which is valid. 627 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 1: But what happens more often than not is like our 628 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 1: reviews tend to be like, oh, it looks great, but 629 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:33,280 Speaker 1: the writing is atrocious. The writing is really it really 630 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 1: needs work. The story needs to be fleshed out, you know, 631 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,799 Speaker 1: you know, not to not to name any names, not 632 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 1: to name any names, but like Steven Spielberg's new film, 633 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:47,719 Speaker 1: I mean, it takes a lot for me to the 634 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:49,759 Speaker 1: West Side Story. It was better than The Stablements because 635 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 1: I did not buy with West six Story. But West 636 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,719 Speaker 1: Story said, but it's because West Story is an adaptation. 637 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 1: There is a previous story. I mean, it's an adaptation 638 00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,719 Speaker 1: of an adaptation. There is story. And then with the 639 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,920 Speaker 1: Fable Men's like Aana wrote a great review for Screenspec, 640 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 1: but it's it's missing, it's missing a lot, but of 641 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,560 Speaker 1: course it's Steven Spielberg, so it's getting praised, of course, 642 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 1: but you know, you know, exactly exactly, we'll believe it 643 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 1: at that. Well, here, this is the moment of the 644 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,879 Speaker 1: show that I ask you speed questions, and I love 645 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:27,960 Speaker 1: that Josie's like in the hot seat right now. This 646 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,360 Speaker 1: is like a because she's always the one sending me 647 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:35,600 Speaker 1: the questions. It's your turn. Okay, what's a movie you've 648 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 1: seen a thousand times and you enjoy it every time? 649 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 1: First of prey yea oh oh, that's a good one. 650 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,759 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with my background right now. People can't 651 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,719 Speaker 1: see it, but it's portrait Relighting on Fire, which is 652 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:49,480 Speaker 1: probably gonna be like, oh my god, is she okay? 653 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:54,120 Speaker 1: And I'm maybe I love, I love, I love. Just 654 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,600 Speaker 1: guess me. Every time it's like being emotional, but in 655 00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 1: a in a beautifully aesthetic pleasing sense. I just like 656 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 1: when a movie can make me cry every single time, 657 00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:04,319 Speaker 1: I'm like, that's good writing. That's how you know the 658 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,239 Speaker 1: writing is good. At the same moment you cry, it's 659 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:15,200 Speaker 1: automatic scaring. Okay. If you could have any celebrity, actor, producer, director, 660 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:18,560 Speaker 1: any any celebrity as a guest on your podcast, who 661 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:25,440 Speaker 1: would it be? And why Ryan Johnson tell me? Why 662 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:29,160 Speaker 1: tell me? He's a white man. However I find him. 663 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:32,319 Speaker 1: You guys, we also don't. We don't hate white man, 664 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:37,080 Speaker 1: just like I find him. I find him so fascinating 665 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:41,400 Speaker 1: because he is, like i'd like to think he's an ally. 666 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 1: Every time I hear him speak, I mean, the final 667 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 1: shot with another Adam mus we can't say, but like 668 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:51,800 Speaker 1: glass Onion was good. The way that Ryan Johnson has 669 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:56,359 Speaker 1: such an interesting lens, and I feel like he's one 670 00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,280 Speaker 1: of those few Maale directors that understands what the female 671 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:03,360 Speaker 1: gaze is and actually knows how to portray it. And 672 00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:05,560 Speaker 1: but in his own way. It's not like he's trying 673 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,480 Speaker 1: to be like a cheap copycat. I don't know, I 674 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:12,799 Speaker 1: just it just feels like Ryan Johnson is such an 675 00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,399 Speaker 1: interesting individual and I would love to pick his brain 676 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:20,400 Speaker 1: because you know, he was such a figure of controversy 677 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,719 Speaker 1: for making a good Star Wars movie. You know that 678 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,880 Speaker 1: people really really just dug their nails into because it 679 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:32,640 Speaker 1: gave the female characters something to work with. I think 680 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,000 Speaker 1: that's the peal. He makes few more characters that are people, 681 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:39,520 Speaker 1: they are humans, They are flawed, they are complex, they 682 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:46,640 Speaker 1: are women are actually Leia or Ghana more to work 683 00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:50,560 Speaker 1: with in that one movie than the entire franchise put together. 684 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:54,160 Speaker 1: Leia has always been such a good character because of 685 00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,799 Speaker 1: Carrie Fisher. She's more than just that bikini. She is 686 00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,400 Speaker 1: more than just that bikini. I mean, Carrie Fisher constantly 687 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:04,120 Speaker 1: would have to rewrite her lines for George Lucas light 688 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,399 Speaker 1: pa Queen Um. So I feel like Ryan Johnson then 689 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,160 Speaker 1: moving on from that and just making his own franchise 690 00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:13,520 Speaker 1: at this point that uplifts women of color and puts 691 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,320 Speaker 1: them in this as the focal point in these films, 692 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:19,280 Speaker 1: which is basically what the Knives Out franchise has become. 693 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,719 Speaker 1: I think is so interesting, and I feel like I 694 00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:24,160 Speaker 1: would just love to have him sit down and just 695 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:27,160 Speaker 1: be like, not to just you know, be a fan girl, 696 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:32,960 Speaker 1: but genuinely sit down and just like pick his brain. Honestly. Yeah. 697 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,839 Speaker 1: For me, a very selfish one would be Joseph Quinn 698 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:45,000 Speaker 1: because I think he's neat. He's just the professional. The 699 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:51,759 Speaker 1: selfish one said that instead of Richard Madam, evolution has 700 00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:59,760 Speaker 1: taken the ulterior motive. The ulterior motive love that, Okay, ladies. 701 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,359 Speaker 1: Last question, what reminds you of home or makes you 702 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:10,120 Speaker 1: feel like home hot as hell, sweat night like the answer, Yeah, 703 00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,920 Speaker 1: for me, it's my grandmother's cooking because um, right now, 704 00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,200 Speaker 1: she can't cook as much because of her heart, and 705 00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:21,600 Speaker 1: she always makes sure to make me um either or 706 00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:25,560 Speaker 1: boyos whenever I go to visit every time, So like 707 00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:29,359 Speaker 1: food is just the way to our hearts, is I 708 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:33,600 Speaker 1: think it's it's food. It's walking around and just sweating 709 00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:39,040 Speaker 1: your ass off, just existing but enjoying it because you know, 710 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 1: as much, yeah, as much as you're like down, you know, 711 00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:47,080 Speaker 1: because of the heat. It's it's something that you learn 712 00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:50,440 Speaker 1: to appreciate, especially like I haven't lived anywhere but Puerto 713 00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:54,160 Speaker 1: Rico my entire life yet so far, but every time 714 00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,600 Speaker 1: I leave and it's like cold, Like yeah, it's like 715 00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,000 Speaker 1: a little relief, I suppose, you know, for the first 716 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:00,479 Speaker 1: couple of days, Like oh, I don't have to depend 717 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,040 Speaker 1: on air conditioning. I can like wear a cute fit 718 00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:07,080 Speaker 1: with layers. But there's just nothing like home. Is, nothing 719 00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:11,480 Speaker 1: like being able to you know, where, like refreshing clothing, 720 00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:15,520 Speaker 1: like where my guadia's my style is, you know, my 721 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:21,719 Speaker 1: style is, But that's fine. I love to you know, 722 00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:25,000 Speaker 1: I'm I can be feminine, but I can also like 723 00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:30,840 Speaker 1: rock and aboio aesthetic and that's what I right now. Yes, yes, indeed, 724 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,040 Speaker 1: if we want to follow you, if we want to 725 00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:37,160 Speaker 1: like follow your journey. Obviously you have your dope podcast. Um. 726 00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,840 Speaker 1: Is there anywhere on social media that we can follow 727 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:43,839 Speaker 1: you on? What's the plug? Um? You can follow me 728 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:47,640 Speaker 1: at Captain Melendez on Twitter and letterbox if you want 729 00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:50,279 Speaker 1: to see what else I think about movies that don't 730 00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:54,400 Speaker 1: get covered on the channel. Um, and yeah, follow film 731 00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:58,120 Speaker 1: Talk on YouTube, Spotify, Apple podcasts wherever you consume your podcast. 732 00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,120 Speaker 1: But people tend to like to watch us and I 733 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,000 Speaker 1: think that's neat. And you can follow me at the 734 00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,720 Speaker 1: Josie Marie on Twitter and letterbox and of course film 735 00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:08,000 Speaker 1: talk f I L M M E T A l 736 00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:11,640 Speaker 1: K wherever you like getting your podcast. But yes, do 737 00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:13,920 Speaker 1: watch us on you tube because Nana is really good 738 00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,759 Speaker 1: with the editing. Thank you, I love this, Alana. We 739 00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:18,560 Speaker 1: might we might need to tax this because we got 740 00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:20,399 Speaker 1: some videos that we're talking about from what aneath. That's 741 00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:22,880 Speaker 1: so Josie put the plug in on that. Well he is. 742 00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,880 Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much, for spending some time with us. Josie, 743 00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,200 Speaker 1: thank you for coming in the hot seat. It's such 744 00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:31,640 Speaker 1: a pleasure to hear more about what you do and 745 00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:33,880 Speaker 1: thank you for all you do from a meta and 746 00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:42,279 Speaker 1: you guys are different being thank you for having us honestly, Yeah, 747 00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:44,319 Speaker 1: it's been a pleasure and I just I think that 748 00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:46,439 Speaker 1: your voices are so important and it needs to be heard. 749 00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:49,239 Speaker 1: So I hope that that's what we're doing here on 750 00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,480 Speaker 1: what Anita, and I hope that it continues to reach 751 00:43:51,520 --> 00:44:02,000 Speaker 1: more people because it's necessary and Monannita is a production 752 00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:05,200 Speaker 1: of Sonato in partnership with I Heart Radio's Michael Luda 753 00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:09,040 Speaker 1: podcast Network. For more podcasts from I heart Radio, visit 754 00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:12,160 Speaker 1: the I heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you 755 00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:13,520 Speaker 1: listen to your favorite shows.