WEBVTT - The Fifth Hour: "Packers Choke" Mail Bag 0:00:00.720 --> 0:00:01.480 Kubbooms. 0:00:02.320 --> 0:00:05.400 If you thought four hours a day, twelve hundred minutes 0:00:05.440 --> 0:00:09.160 a week was enough, think again. He's the last remnants 0:00:09.200 --> 0:00:12.480 of the old republic, a sol fashion of fairness. He 0:00:12.600 --> 0:00:15.520 treats crackheads in the ghetto gutter the same as the 0:00:15.640 --> 0:00:17.480 rich pill poppers in the penthouse. 0:00:18.079 --> 0:00:18.400 Wow. 0:00:18.600 --> 0:00:22.320 The Clearinghouse of Hot takes break free for something special. 0:00:22.680 --> 0:00:30.640 The Fifth Hour with Ben Maller starts right now. 0:00:28.960 --> 0:00:34.680 In the air everywhere. The Fifth Hour with Me, Ben 0:00:34.800 --> 0:00:37.879 Mahler and Danny g Radios. We hang out with you 0:00:38.040 --> 0:00:42.839 on a early Sunday, as we are recording this on 0:00:42.960 --> 0:00:46.879 the eleventh day of January, and a podcast. Having a 0:00:46.920 --> 0:00:50.960 podcast going into the audio sweatshop every day on the 0:00:50.960 --> 0:00:53.720 weekend is a double edged sword. It's a blessing and 0:00:53.760 --> 0:00:56.400 a curse. It is a blessing because when you have 0:00:56.680 --> 0:01:00.680 wild Card playoff games on a Saturday, and you don't 0:01:00.720 --> 0:01:04.480 have a radio show on a Saturday, you can come 0:01:04.520 --> 0:01:09.400 in on an early Sunday morning and provide some commentary 0:01:09.520 --> 0:01:11.240 on the plus Now, we will get to the mailbag 0:01:11.319 --> 0:01:14.959 later on, which is a staple of the Fifth Hour podcast. 0:01:15.800 --> 0:01:19.800 Nothing like Ask Ben, nothing at all like Ask Ben. 0:01:19.920 --> 0:01:23.360 But we will begin with a couple of mini Malar 0:01:23.520 --> 0:01:29.360 monologues on what we witnessed in the NFL wild Card 0:01:29.400 --> 0:01:31.760 opener on Saturday. We're gonna start with the late game. 0:01:31.760 --> 0:01:33.760 I was gonna start with the Ram game. I was like, ah, 0:01:33.880 --> 0:01:36.200 I'll just do the Ram game. So they had halftime 0:01:36.800 --> 0:01:39.840 of the Packer Bears game. It looked like there would 0:01:39.880 --> 0:01:42.520 be no reason to bring that game up. It was 0:01:42.600 --> 0:01:47.200 headed toward blowout city and then they played the second half, 0:01:48.480 --> 0:01:50.640 So we're gonna start with that game. We're gonna start 0:01:50.680 --> 0:01:53.160 with that game. It was not a gigantic upset. The 0:01:53.200 --> 0:01:56.520 Packers were only a one point favorite. I took Green 0:01:56.600 --> 0:01:59.559 Bay on benny versus the penny. That was the right side. 0:01:59.840 --> 0:02:02.440 I didn't know they were choking dogs, but they turned 0:02:02.440 --> 0:02:06.040 out to be choking dogs. Oh my god. Do you 0:02:06.040 --> 0:02:07.560 know how in competent you have to beat to blow 0:02:07.560 --> 0:02:10.239 an eighteen point lead in the NFL playoffs? They did 0:02:10.280 --> 0:02:15.320 it anyway. Packers kicker Brandon McManus is the one that 0:02:15.440 --> 0:02:20.680 etched his name on the side of the bathroom wall 0:02:21.240 --> 0:02:26.760 of special team meltdowns in that playoff game on Saturday 0:02:26.840 --> 0:02:31.880 night there at Soldier Field in Chicago. McManus who's been around. 0:02:32.480 --> 0:02:35.480 This is not his first trip to the circus, and 0:02:35.560 --> 0:02:40.640 he experienced a reversal of fortune. Missed two field goals 0:02:40.760 --> 0:02:43.280 and an extra point. The Packers ended up blowing a 0:02:43.320 --> 0:02:47.079 twenty one to three halftime lead. They lose a very 0:02:47.200 --> 0:02:51.720 memorable NFL playoff game thirty one twenty seven to kick 0:02:51.720 --> 0:02:54.919 off the wild card round. There So the Chicago Bears 0:02:55.040 --> 0:02:58.440 win a playoff game and advance. But the better story 0:02:58.560 --> 0:03:00.519 is in the losing locker room, and that is where 0:03:00.520 --> 0:03:04.080 we will begin good jumping off point, the question kicker 0:03:04.280 --> 0:03:09.799 Brandon McManus costing the Packers seven points in a game 0:03:09.840 --> 0:03:13.880 they lost by four points, that epic collapse in Chicago. 0:03:14.160 --> 0:03:20.239 Is this game entirely on his shoulders as is being reported? 0:03:20.680 --> 0:03:24.040 So I have on this one dollar store guy named 0:03:24.120 --> 0:03:30.080 Earl and ring doorbell camera, and we will combine all 0:03:30.200 --> 0:03:32.959 of these things together and we are going to win 0:03:33.680 --> 0:03:37.200 a podcast award. I don't think we're cool enough to 0:03:37.240 --> 0:03:38.920 win one of those, and we don't suck up to 0:03:39.040 --> 0:03:40.920 enough people, so I don't know that's gonna happen. But 0:03:41.040 --> 0:03:45.320 a using malormath, and that's the only math we use 0:03:45.360 --> 0:03:49.280 on the Fifth Hour podcast. Brandon McManus on the Mallard 0:03:49.320 --> 0:03:53.200 pie chart gets seventy five percent of the blame pie. 0:03:54.200 --> 0:03:58.120 And yes, kickers aren't football players, they're idiot kickers, hired 0:03:58.440 --> 0:04:04.400 mercenaries with one job and a very fragile mind. I 0:04:04.440 --> 0:04:08.600 get that. However, However, here's the thing, the low information 0:04:09.000 --> 0:04:12.400 box score bandit, as we like to call him. They'll 0:04:12.440 --> 0:04:15.000 see Jordan Love's three hundred and twenty three yards and 0:04:15.040 --> 0:04:18.120 four touchdowns and want to give him a full pardon 0:04:18.240 --> 0:04:22.440 and a parade. You can't blame Jordan Love. He had 0:04:22.480 --> 0:04:26.520 four touchdowns and no interceptions and three hundred twenty three yards. 0:04:26.560 --> 0:04:29.200 You don't know ball if you blame him. Not so fast, 0:04:29.240 --> 0:04:33.839 my friend, because on the Mallard Show scorecard, Jordan Love 0:04:33.920 --> 0:04:40.760 gets a hefty slice of guilt cheese Fondu, guilt cheese fondu. 0:04:41.440 --> 0:04:46.000 Why not one, not two, not three, but four four 0:04:46.120 --> 0:04:50.000 straight possessions in the middle part of that game, punt punt, 0:04:50.160 --> 0:04:53.159 punt punt in the meat of the game. That is 0:04:53.279 --> 0:04:57.760 offensive paralysis. Now, Jordan Love went from a butcher knife 0:04:57.800 --> 0:05:02.080 in the first half to a dollars store butter knife 0:05:02.600 --> 0:05:07.520 after halftime. First half chef's kiss, absolute chef's kiss second half. 0:05:07.880 --> 0:05:12.280 It looked like he popped a melatonin at intermission and 0:05:12.400 --> 0:05:16.640 needed a blankie. Under fifty percent completions in the second half, 0:05:17.160 --> 0:05:21.480 shrinking like a cheap sweater. You don't blow a twenty 0:05:21.560 --> 0:05:25.320 one to three lead, you win the turnovers to nothing 0:05:25.680 --> 0:05:30.479 and still lose unless you and your quarterback are performing 0:05:30.600 --> 0:05:34.039 mensa level and competence. Now, add on, the Packers did 0:05:34.120 --> 0:05:37.480 have not one, not two, three, four four fumbles. They 0:05:37.560 --> 0:05:41.280 recovered all of them, sure, but those are half turnover, 0:05:41.360 --> 0:05:44.080 so that's four fumbles each a half a turnover. They 0:05:44.160 --> 0:05:47.560 usually stop a drive, so that's like two turnovers. It's 0:05:47.600 --> 0:05:50.280 like tripping over your own luggage while running to the gate. 0:05:50.880 --> 0:05:56.520 So McManus again lit the match. However, Jordan Love poured 0:05:56.600 --> 0:06:01.000 the gasoline on top. Now page two at the end 0:06:01.240 --> 0:06:04.080 of the what is this the seventh season? I believe it? 0:06:04.080 --> 0:06:08.120 Oh my god, where does the time go? Matt LeFleur, 0:06:08.240 --> 0:06:12.960 Green Bays coach seven years and his team again showing 0:06:13.040 --> 0:06:17.119 a lack of moxie like my dog late in the game. 0:06:17.160 --> 0:06:20.240 There the composure in big moments in a playoff game. 0:06:20.320 --> 0:06:28.200 So the question cheesehead fans want Mattlefleir fired. They want 0:06:28.279 --> 0:06:32.560 him sent to a war tribunal after the Packers choked 0:06:32.560 --> 0:06:36.640 it away in Chicago to be eliminated from the NFL plauffs. 0:06:36.680 --> 0:06:40.479 What are the chances that this happens? What are the 0:06:40.600 --> 0:06:45.279 chances that matt LeFleur is Gonzo? All Right, So the 0:06:45.360 --> 0:06:49.960 Mallor sportsbook odds at plus four hundred, that is a 0:06:50.080 --> 0:06:55.479 twenty percent chance that the Flur gets whacked. It's not 0:06:55.640 --> 0:06:58.840 zero hope, but not exactly def con won either. It's 0:06:58.880 --> 0:07:01.680 a two hundred hitter in baseball, which is usually not 0:07:01.760 --> 0:07:05.159 a problem unless you're Miguel Rojas for the Dodgers against 0:07:05.160 --> 0:07:08.119 the Toronto Blue Jays in Game seven of the World Series. 0:07:08.120 --> 0:07:12.120 But I digress. So the Packer nation? Is that a thing? Still? 0:07:12.200 --> 0:07:16.240 Packer Nation? They're waving their pitchforks like it's some kind 0:07:16.240 --> 0:07:20.320 of medieval cheese riot. You think they ever had a 0:07:20.400 --> 0:07:23.680 cheese riot in medieval times? The great thing about medieval 0:07:23.720 --> 0:07:26.080 times is the people that were living in medieval times 0:07:26.080 --> 0:07:28.360 did not realize they were in medieval times. They were 0:07:28.360 --> 0:07:31.880 just living their lives. So anyway, yeah, this isn't Jerry 0:07:32.000 --> 0:07:36.640 Jones with the flamethrower. This is sleepy Green Bay, a 0:07:36.720 --> 0:07:41.160 commune in the NFL a co op, so it's always 0:07:41.160 --> 0:07:44.480 more complicated. If this was another town, you'd say, Matt 0:07:44.560 --> 0:07:51.760 Lafleur is gone. His ass is grass in Green Bay, though, eh, 0:07:51.960 --> 0:07:54.200 I mean going into the playoffs, Lafleur was on my 0:07:54.280 --> 0:07:57.239 short list of coaches that were on the hot seat 0:07:57.480 --> 0:07:59.960 if they didn't win, and the Packers obviously didn't win 0:08:00.000 --> 0:08:03.080 and they blew a massive lead. The issue is always 0:08:03.120 --> 0:08:08.400 the over five hundred thousand shareholders that the Packers have. 0:08:08.680 --> 0:08:12.360 There's no one billionaire sugar daddy. If there was one 0:08:12.400 --> 0:08:15.200 billionaire sugar daddy like Jerry Jones, say okay, that's easy, 0:08:15.480 --> 0:08:20.160 that's an easy move. Decisions move much more slowly. It's 0:08:20.240 --> 0:08:24.920 like it's like molasses. It's slower than molasses. In late January. 0:08:25.040 --> 0:08:29.520 You don't fire a coach there, you don't. You submit 0:08:29.600 --> 0:08:34.080 a request, It gets laminated, it gets passed around and 0:08:34.160 --> 0:08:38.679 voted on by a guy named Earl wearing cheese stained 0:08:38.760 --> 0:08:44.600 overalls and a foam cheesehead. And LeFleur he's got some alibis, 0:08:45.240 --> 0:08:50.280 mainly the highest paid non quarterback in the NFL, Michael Parsons, 0:08:51.679 --> 0:08:54.160 did not walk through that locker room door as a player, 0:08:54.880 --> 0:08:58.040 and Tucker Kraft, who had been a breakout star at 0:08:58.080 --> 0:09:01.520 tight end, did not play all, both to them enjoying 0:09:01.520 --> 0:09:05.600 some rice Crispies Snap crackle pop. So it's like baking 0:09:05.600 --> 0:09:08.720 a cake and not having eggs and then being shocked 0:09:08.760 --> 0:09:13.000 when you're on the British baking show and the thing collapses. Regardless, 0:09:13.800 --> 0:09:17.000 you have a twenty one to three lead. You gotta 0:09:17.040 --> 0:09:19.439 win that game. I mean, you don't need me to 0:09:19.480 --> 0:09:22.200 tell you that. And after warning everyone, here's the thing. 0:09:22.200 --> 0:09:25.040 At halftime, they did a little halftime walk and talk 0:09:25.240 --> 0:09:29.720 the walkie talkie at halftime and he said, it's a 0:09:29.800 --> 0:09:34.160 Bears are a comeback team. You warned everyone and then 0:09:34.720 --> 0:09:37.439 couldn't get your team to make enough plays to stop 0:09:37.480 --> 0:09:42.000 that from happening. That's coaching malpractice. And there's fingerprints everywhere. 0:09:42.040 --> 0:09:46.240 That's not stepping on a rake, that's juggling chainsaws blindfolded. 0:09:47.240 --> 0:09:51.480 So yeah, plus four hundred feels about right. It feels 0:09:51.520 --> 0:09:55.000 about right, about twenty percent chance. Is it possible? Yeah? 0:09:55.240 --> 0:09:59.120 Would it be painful? Yeah? And that loss was a 0:09:59.240 --> 0:10:05.280 body blow, bodyblow, body blow. Yet Green Bay doesn't fire fast. 0:10:05.320 --> 0:10:10.000 They don't they stew And I never liked stew I don't. 0:10:10.280 --> 0:10:11.920 It's kind of like a brought worst left on the 0:10:11.960 --> 0:10:14.560 grill too long. I like a well done food. But 0:10:14.720 --> 0:10:17.560 generally speaking, you don't want your brod cook too much 0:10:17.600 --> 0:10:21.440 because then it kind of pops open. It's it's not 0:10:21.520 --> 0:10:23.679 that great. It's not that great. All right, last word 0:10:23.760 --> 0:10:26.000 on the Packer Bears game. All right, So let's talk 0:10:26.040 --> 0:10:29.680 about the handshake heard round the NFC North in the 0:10:29.760 --> 0:10:35.360 NFL playoffs question coaches Ben Johnson and Matt LeFleur sharing 0:10:35.400 --> 0:10:39.079 a very tense handshake at the conclusion of the NFC 0:10:39.160 --> 0:10:42.360 Wildcard game. How did you see it? Well, how did 0:10:42.360 --> 0:10:45.840 I see it? On the judge's scorecard. That wasn't a handshake. 0:10:46.280 --> 0:10:49.160 This was a drive by DAP is what that was. 0:10:49.200 --> 0:10:52.480 That was a hit and run greeting. Ben Johnson did 0:10:52.480 --> 0:10:57.839 not shake Matt Leffleur's hand. He processed him. You don't reminder, 0:10:57.880 --> 0:10:59.760 it was like you see those videos every once in 0:10:59.760 --> 0:11:03.440 a while out on the interweb, and it's like the 0:11:03.520 --> 0:11:08.560 Amazon delivery driver gone rogue on a ring doorbell where 0:11:08.559 --> 0:11:13.760 they toss the package, they throw it, they're throwing a fastball, 0:11:14.240 --> 0:11:18.040 they snap the photo, they peel out of the driveway, 0:11:18.120 --> 0:11:21.720 they burn rubber, the whole thing for the Packers, blowing 0:11:21.760 --> 0:11:26.400 an eighteen point lead. The season goes poof abra cadabra, gonzo, 0:11:27.200 --> 0:11:31.439 and there's Matt Lafleur standing there waiting for some football decorum, 0:11:32.520 --> 0:11:36.400 and instead Ben Johnson's like, screw this guy. He gives 0:11:36.400 --> 0:11:41.040 in the old nice knowing you pal. I got to it. 0:11:41.040 --> 0:11:43.480 I loved every second of it I did. Does that 0:11:43.520 --> 0:11:45.640 make me a bad person? Know it does not. It 0:11:45.679 --> 0:11:50.600 was good TV, great theater. And this league needs more pettiness, 0:11:51.400 --> 0:11:55.760 not less. It needs more everyone. Everyone is treated like 0:11:55.800 --> 0:12:01.000 a king. They're spoiled, rotten. They're spoiled, rotten, rich, every 0:12:01.080 --> 0:12:04.880 one of the Ben Johnson doing this drive by like 0:12:04.920 --> 0:12:08.160 an Amazon drivers pulling in what thirteen million a year 0:12:08.160 --> 0:12:14.400 from Chicago, thirteen millionaire. Matt Lafleur is making five million, 0:12:14.679 --> 0:12:17.040 which makes him the poor coach in these two for 0:12:17.120 --> 0:12:21.840 Green Bay. So these guys are not starving artists. They're not. 0:12:22.600 --> 0:12:27.679 This is ego. Sumo wrestling is what this is. So 0:12:27.800 --> 0:12:30.480 give me the tension, give me the side eye. I 0:12:30.600 --> 0:12:33.800 need more side eye I do. It's a breath of 0:12:33.880 --> 0:12:38.640 fresh air, and sports are better when the smiles are 0:12:38.800 --> 0:12:42.480 fake and the handshakes are a little icy, And that 0:12:42.679 --> 0:12:47.280 wasn't disrespect, that was punctuation. I thought it was great. 0:12:47.280 --> 0:12:49.920 And then Ben Johnson got knocked over by one of 0:12:49.920 --> 0:12:54.200 his own players moments after that. It was quite the scene. 0:12:54.800 --> 0:12:57.079 Quite the scene. So the Chicago Bear fans, you talk 0:12:57.080 --> 0:13:00.480 about the spectrum of emotion at halftime, they were ready 0:13:00.480 --> 0:13:03.440 to run out Ben Johnson and Caleb Williams and Kavi 0:13:03.520 --> 0:13:07.200 Williams didn't play all that great. It's really bizarre. The 0:13:07.200 --> 0:13:09.840 fourth quarter was wild and crazy. But for most of 0:13:09.840 --> 0:13:12.199 that game, Caaleb Williams was not a very good quarterback. 0:13:12.559 --> 0:13:14.240 But you're not supposed to talk about that because the 0:13:14.240 --> 0:13:17.240 only thing people remember is the final score. And you 0:13:17.360 --> 0:13:22.000 win the game and everything's great, everything smells like wonderful cologne, 0:13:22.360 --> 0:13:26.600 and you lose the game and you're rotting shrimp is 0:13:26.640 --> 0:13:28.280 what you are out in the sun, all right. Now, 0:13:28.640 --> 0:13:33.120 Onto the early game. Onto the early game. The LMS 0:13:33.240 --> 0:13:38.040 had to come back not once but twice against lowly Carolina. 0:13:38.120 --> 0:13:42.439 Are you kidding me? It was fingerbiting hair falling out 0:13:42.640 --> 0:13:45.160 that all that. It was a win. It was a win. 0:13:46.320 --> 0:13:50.160 So let us discuss the question. So what did the 0:13:50.280 --> 0:13:55.440 Rams beating Carolina actually say about Sean mcvay's team as 0:13:55.480 --> 0:13:59.800 they advanced to the divisional round. So we have overdosed 0:14:00.200 --> 0:14:04.320 and Neon Eraser on this mini Malar monologue as the 0:14:04.400 --> 0:14:11.200 Rams take down the Panthers in wild Card Saturday, now 0:14:11.480 --> 0:14:16.000 number one, number one, I'll tell you what it said 0:14:16.000 --> 0:14:19.520 to me. The Rams are who we thought they were. 0:14:19.560 --> 0:14:23.960 They play with their peas and carrots. They do. They 0:14:24.000 --> 0:14:28.720 don't just eat the meal. They're not workmenlike. They're not methodical. 0:14:28.760 --> 0:14:30.520 They don't go out and just take care of bins. 0:14:30.560 --> 0:14:34.400 They rearrange it on their plate. They do, they do, 0:14:34.960 --> 0:14:39.120 they do. Now, we covered this on Benny Versus the Penny, 0:14:39.200 --> 0:14:42.640 and you listening to this, your fem I'm happy for 0:14:42.680 --> 0:14:45.560 my guys in Chicago. We talked already about the Bears game. 0:14:45.600 --> 0:14:49.120 But you're Femi eug and all those guys who are 0:14:49.240 --> 0:14:52.720 are loyal to the show tree in Chicago. I'm happy 0:14:52.720 --> 0:14:54.920 for you guys because the Bears have sucked for a while. 0:14:55.400 --> 0:14:58.120 But in terms of Benny Versus the Penny, we talked 0:14:58.160 --> 0:15:01.200 about the Ram game. We said, hey, I took Carolina 0:15:01.240 --> 0:15:03.600 and some of you guys were trying to bust my balls. 0:15:03.680 --> 0:15:07.520 On social media and you're oh Man Meller, you're Rams. 0:15:07.840 --> 0:15:13.200 Oh Carolina, they covered the spread. I mean, okay, I 0:15:13.240 --> 0:15:17.200 took Carolina on Benny versus Benny. The Rams have been 0:15:17.240 --> 0:15:18.880 doing this all year. This is not new. They blew 0:15:18.920 --> 0:15:21.560 a nineteen point lead, I believe to Philadelphia. They blew 0:15:21.560 --> 0:15:25.040 a sixteen point lead in another game. And it's like 0:15:25.080 --> 0:15:28.160 they're running a community theater production of how to keep 0:15:28.200 --> 0:15:32.440 the underdog engaged? What are you doing? Like, just go 0:15:32.520 --> 0:15:34.880 for the juggular, go for the kill shot. They don't 0:15:34.880 --> 0:15:39.000 do it now. Matthew Stafford first quarter, he was cooking 0:15:39.040 --> 0:15:41.640 with gas. He was Gordon Ramsey out there. There were 0:15:41.640 --> 0:15:45.160 flames in the air everywhere, him and Puka Nakua unstoppable. 0:15:45.200 --> 0:15:46.640 This looked like it was gonna be a forty to 0:15:46.680 --> 0:15:49.440 ten win, and then they had to play the rest 0:15:49.440 --> 0:15:52.120 of the game. The middle of the game, he goes 0:15:52.160 --> 0:15:56.000 from Matthew Stafford goes from Gordon Ramsey cooking with gas, 0:15:56.280 --> 0:15:59.880 and then he's rubbing rocks together like he's auditioning for Survivor. 0:16:00.760 --> 0:16:04.880 He overdosed on stupid bills. It looked like he had 0:16:05.200 --> 0:16:10.680 gastronidis whatever it is, you know, the food poisoning, pale, shaky, miserable, 0:16:12.120 --> 0:16:16.840 all of that, and yet the end of the game, 0:16:16.880 --> 0:16:18.800 he pulls the rabbit out of the hat. The Rams 0:16:18.840 --> 0:16:22.000 matriculate the ball down the field and they get the 0:16:22.120 --> 0:16:25.280 touchdown to go ahead. They have it. They were down 0:16:25.280 --> 0:16:27.320 by four, they had to have a touchdown. So the 0:16:27.440 --> 0:16:30.680 ras Mataz was there at the end the game winning drive. 0:16:30.720 --> 0:16:34.880 And you exhale, unless, of course, you're a gambler and 0:16:34.960 --> 0:16:39.040 you bet on the Rams, and that's not the case 0:16:39.040 --> 0:16:41.840 for most people. Unfortunately, most people aren't gambled. I love gambling, 0:16:41.840 --> 0:16:44.000 but most people don't gamble. And all that matters is 0:16:44.040 --> 0:16:47.160 wins and losses. Wins and losses. Now in my world 0:16:47.280 --> 0:16:52.040 of benny versus the penny. In my world, good teams win, 0:16:52.400 --> 0:16:54.840 great teams cover. The Rams are not a great team. 0:16:55.200 --> 0:16:57.800 And that's the thing. The Rams are good, they're not great. 0:16:58.120 --> 0:17:06.240 And Sean McVay absolutely brilliant chef. The Rams thought outside 0:17:06.280 --> 0:17:08.919 the box. They took somebody who wasn't quite ready to 0:17:08.920 --> 0:17:11.080 be a head coach and made him a head coach. 0:17:11.280 --> 0:17:16.640 And unless McVeigh decides to quit and go do bad television, 0:17:17.280 --> 0:17:20.479 he'll be the Rams coach for another ten years. At 0:17:20.560 --> 0:17:24.760 least it's insane. And he's good. The guy's good. And 0:17:24.840 --> 0:17:29.280 so McVeigh just a masterpiece as a coach. And yet 0:17:29.800 --> 0:17:31.960 he's like a brilliant chef but keeps leaving the oven 0:17:32.000 --> 0:17:36.760 door open. So he's wonderful and has this terrible habit. 0:17:37.440 --> 0:17:40.600 It's just knock it off all right now, Page two. 0:17:40.680 --> 0:17:45.040 So the Carolina Panthers believe that they are not these 0:17:45.119 --> 0:17:50.520 same old Panthers after this close playoff loss to the 0:17:50.600 --> 0:17:52.600 LA RAM So I want to address that the question 0:17:53.240 --> 0:17:55.680 there's a quote actually will wrap the question around. The 0:17:55.760 --> 0:18:00.320 quote from Carolina defensive back Mike Jackson. What a tough 0:18:00.400 --> 0:18:02.720 name to have if you're a star football player. A 0:18:02.760 --> 0:18:04.879 lot of people have the name Mike Jackson. But anyway, 0:18:05.280 --> 0:18:09.040 he said, quote, we just showed people that we aren't 0:18:09.200 --> 0:18:14.080 the old Panthers. Mike Jackson said, close quote question, how 0:18:14.080 --> 0:18:17.600 do you feel about that commentary that we are not 0:18:17.760 --> 0:18:20.919 the same old Panthers? So I have two words I 0:18:20.960 --> 0:18:26.160 wrote down on my board, my chalkboard. Stop it are 0:18:26.240 --> 0:18:30.520 my two words. That is a participation trophy parade is 0:18:30.520 --> 0:18:32.639 what that is? What do you do if I was 0:18:32.680 --> 0:18:35.600 coaching the Carolina Panthers. So I'm Dave Canallis. I would 0:18:35.640 --> 0:18:38.160 be like, dude, you're out of here. Get out of here. 0:18:38.320 --> 0:18:43.840 You don't get a victory lap for losing capital l losing. 0:18:44.440 --> 0:18:48.520 This isn't Little League with the orange slices. We're not 0:18:48.600 --> 0:18:53.679 doing that here. Hello, Like, what do you want? We 0:18:53.720 --> 0:18:58.000 will give you. I'll go into the prize chest and 0:18:58.040 --> 0:19:02.960 I'm gonna give you a neon blue eraser, that bright neon. 0:19:03.280 --> 0:19:05.359 I'll give you a teal how about the teal neon 0:19:05.520 --> 0:19:09.879 teal eraser? Good? All right, so Carolina, unless I miss something, 0:19:10.200 --> 0:19:13.040 still walked off the field with a giant l, big 0:19:13.240 --> 0:19:17.480 fat giant el. And now this and some other quotes 0:19:17.520 --> 0:19:19.760 I saw coming out of the Panthers' locker room. They're 0:19:19.800 --> 0:19:24.800 doing this verbal gymnastics routine, grabbing for anything that feels 0:19:24.960 --> 0:19:29.000 like a win. And is it true that Vegas had 0:19:29.040 --> 0:19:31.560 them at two hundred to one to win the Super Bowl? 0:19:31.960 --> 0:19:35.320 To win the Super Bowl? That is not disrespect. That 0:19:35.440 --> 0:19:40.119 is a that is a bright billboard, times square billboard 0:19:40.160 --> 0:19:45.359 that reads, you don't belong here, You don't belong here. 0:19:45.880 --> 0:19:50.400 They were the biggest home underdog in NFL playoff history 0:19:50.400 --> 0:19:54.240 of the Carolina Panthers. That wasn't shade. That was sunlight, 0:19:54.520 --> 0:19:58.359 exposing a team that was unqualified to be in the 0:19:58.359 --> 0:20:02.639 playoffs and the fat that they covered the spread. This 0:20:03.000 --> 0:20:08.240 wasn't the Panthers rising. It was a whoopedie damn dow situation. 0:20:09.119 --> 0:20:13.960 It was the Rams who were guilty of Malfeasan's in sleepwalking. 0:20:14.040 --> 0:20:16.919 After they built up a double digit lead early in 0:20:16.960 --> 0:20:20.400 the game, Sean mcvay's crew played down to their opponents, 0:20:20.440 --> 0:20:25.080 called sandbagging like a shark nibbling instead of biting. The 0:20:25.119 --> 0:20:28.240 shark could always bite, but instead nibbles. It was a 0:20:28.280 --> 0:20:33.080 classic playoff trap game. And even then Carolina could not 0:20:33.320 --> 0:20:36.960 actually close the deal because Bryce Young isn't that guy. 0:20:37.280 --> 0:20:40.320 You're not that guy, Pal, You're not that guy. And 0:20:40.400 --> 0:20:43.680 saying that we're not the old Panthers, the same old 0:20:43.680 --> 0:20:48.560 Panthers after a loss is like bragging you did not drown, 0:20:48.760 --> 0:20:52.639 even though you just swallowed half of the chlorine water 0:20:52.920 --> 0:20:55.560 in the pool. Like what are we doing here in 0:20:55.600 --> 0:20:58.960 the NFL? You've got it's amazing. This isn't called the scoreboard, 0:20:59.160 --> 0:21:02.000 and you have you've never heard this bore. You've got 0:21:02.040 --> 0:21:09.200 winners and you've got losers. No motivational posters survivors. The 0:21:09.960 --> 0:21:16.240 Panthers lost, they lost. End of story. That's it all right, 0:21:16.280 --> 0:21:20.520 Now onto the mail bag. It's all about the mail 0:21:20.560 --> 0:21:24.400 bag in Ohio. Al, can you get me in the mood? Ohio, Al. 0:21:25.480 --> 0:21:40.720 It's the mail bag, all right, very good, So let's 0:21:40.720 --> 0:21:43.520 get to it. These are actual letters by actual listeners 0:21:43.560 --> 0:21:45.320 of the show. You can send a message in care 0:21:45.440 --> 0:21:49.280 of Real fifth Hour at gmail dot com. That's Real 0:21:49.359 --> 0:21:53.879 fifth Hour at gmail dot com. Name and city, name 0:21:54.240 --> 0:21:56.240 and city. Make sure to put that there if you 0:21:56.280 --> 0:22:00.280 want credit. Keep your questions short, and our answers will 0:22:00.280 --> 0:22:02.760 be long. If your questions are long, our answers will 0:22:02.760 --> 0:22:07.119 be short. First one up from snow Dog in Fullerton. 0:22:08.119 --> 0:22:11.680 It really is the Siberia of Southern California's Happy New Year, 0:22:11.760 --> 0:22:15.320 he says, snow Dog. A little late, but I think 0:22:16.359 --> 0:22:19.480 I'm still in the window now the windows A couple 0:22:19.480 --> 0:22:21.840 of days after New Year's you're way past the window, 0:22:22.600 --> 0:22:26.280 way way, as you know, fer Dog. It's the eleventh 0:22:26.320 --> 0:22:29.760 of January. You have crossed over. We crossed the Rubicon 0:22:29.840 --> 0:22:33.560 long ago, anyway, snow Dog says, or ferg Dog says, 0:22:33.600 --> 0:22:36.600 you asked on the weekday show, who'd want to listen 0:22:36.640 --> 0:22:41.600 to your nine year old podcast. Well, I say everyone should. 0:22:42.119 --> 0:22:45.280 Skipping the old shows is like reading the Bible without 0:22:45.320 --> 0:22:50.159 reading any of the Old Testament. There's many life lessons 0:22:50.200 --> 0:22:53.760 buried in those podcasts. Well, thank you, ferg Dog. I 0:22:53.760 --> 0:22:57.439 appreciate that. And of course it's a disposable form of 0:22:57.600 --> 0:23:02.200 entertainment sports talk radio where you do the show that day, 0:23:02.240 --> 0:23:04.520 you're talking about what's going on that day, and then 0:23:04.520 --> 0:23:06.400 the next day there's another show and you're talking about 0:23:06.400 --> 0:23:09.760 what's going on that day. It's not presented as an 0:23:09.840 --> 0:23:13.919 evergreen product. It's not a show designed to last the 0:23:13.960 --> 0:23:15.959 test of time. You're talking about what's going on in 0:23:16.000 --> 0:23:20.720 that moment. Email continues. Last week, someone asked a question 0:23:20.800 --> 0:23:26.040 about Nostridamis. Well, I've got one regarding Nostradinis, the true 0:23:26.160 --> 0:23:31.439 profit of doom, says ferg Dog. He predicted Sam Donold 0:23:31.520 --> 0:23:34.399 will win eight straight Super Bowls with the Seahawks and 0:23:34.440 --> 0:23:37.280 go down as the greatest football player of all time. 0:23:37.840 --> 0:23:39.720 What do you think is more likely to come true 0:23:39.720 --> 0:23:43.280 that that or the Raiders winning more than five games 0:23:44.160 --> 0:23:48.040 next season? All right, So a fer Dog or snow dog. 0:23:48.160 --> 0:23:52.000 If you gave me one thousand dollars of funny money 0:23:52.160 --> 0:23:54.840 and said, what's more like to happen? I would bet 0:23:54.920 --> 0:23:59.160 on the Raiders winning six games next year. We don't 0:23:59.160 --> 0:24:00.600 know who the Raiders is going to HIGs their coach. 0:24:00.640 --> 0:24:02.520 It'll be some DRABBRONI. We have no idea who they're 0:24:02.520 --> 0:24:05.199 gonna hire. So they'll hire somebody to come in and 0:24:05.240 --> 0:24:08.880 be the new village idiot, which is a great job. 0:24:08.920 --> 0:24:10.480 You can paid a lot of money, you don't have 0:24:10.520 --> 0:24:12.120 to win, and then you get fired. You still get 0:24:12.119 --> 0:24:14.520 paid a lot of money. And Pete Carroll's gonna make 0:24:14.520 --> 0:24:18.760 fifteen million dollars a year for the next couple of years. Anyway, 0:24:19.240 --> 0:24:23.400 the point is that the Raiders play a bad schedule. 0:24:23.840 --> 0:24:25.800 They'll have the number one pick in the draft. They'll 0:24:25.800 --> 0:24:27.639 have the number one pick in the second round. They 0:24:27.640 --> 0:24:29.160 will not have the number one pick in the third 0:24:29.240 --> 0:24:32.720 round because they traded that to Seattle Forerchino Smith. Yeah, 0:24:32.720 --> 0:24:34.200 but I'll tell I'll take the Raiders. I'll take the 0:24:34.280 --> 0:24:37.200 Raiders a Lucky Tony writes, and he says, hey, Ben, 0:24:37.640 --> 0:24:41.760 in the prison dream, I woke up mid swing, so 0:24:41.880 --> 0:24:45.639 nobody got shanked. But I love these dreams from Lucky 0:24:45.680 --> 0:24:48.560 Tony that's so good. I like them more than when 0:24:48.560 --> 0:24:51.080 he calls up and just drops a porn star's name 0:24:51.119 --> 0:24:54.400 and then hangs up. Anyway, Lucky Tony says in the 0:24:54.520 --> 0:24:58.720 Prison Dream, I woke up mid swing, so nobody got shanked. 0:24:59.240 --> 0:25:03.159 I did fun with the knife, but that's been a 0:25:03.520 --> 0:25:07.439 reoccurrence in night dreams. Around the time I sent my 0:25:07.640 --> 0:25:11.720 song shout out, Mexican John Dutton, Terry and England also 0:25:11.760 --> 0:25:14.359 sent a song that never got played. Could one of 0:25:14.400 --> 0:25:18.600 you kind sers verify that they are in the system? Bears, 0:25:19.160 --> 0:25:22.760 I'm happy for Lucky Tony. Lucky Tony, I'm sure he 0:25:22.840 --> 0:25:25.000 got a little chubby when the Bears won that game 0:25:25.080 --> 0:25:27.800 last night. He had to be very concerned at halftime. 0:25:28.440 --> 0:25:30.879 I think we did play Terry in England's song. I 0:25:30.880 --> 0:25:32.640 believe we did end up playing it on the air. 0:25:33.880 --> 0:25:35.919 We did not play it when it needed to be played, 0:25:35.920 --> 0:25:38.199