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Speaker 1: FT spring training tour continuing. We're going to talk to

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Speaker 1: the A's pretty soon. But this tour is engineered by

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Speaker 1: two camps down Many to go. Royals Camp Done, Guardians Camp.

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Speaker 1: Thank you to both the Royals and the Guardians for

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Speaker 1: being so gracious with hosting us and for giving us

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Speaker 1: access to so many players.

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Speaker 2: That is a big part of what we do as.

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Speaker 1: A network and as a show, and we will do

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Speaker 1: that again with the A's today, Dodgers tomorrow, Mariners on Saturday,

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Speaker 1: Rangers on Sunday. Remember we have live shows over the

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Speaker 1: weekend to continue the Arizona tour. A little Cactus League action.

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Speaker 1: As you can see, they're getting the field ready. There's

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Speaker 1: gonna be games soon too, right AJ, when's the first

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Speaker 1: game tomorrow?

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Speaker 3: Tomorrow? Tomorrow's Friday? Right, Yes, Cubby Birds, Kubby Bears, White

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Speaker 3: Sox tomorrow. I know that one is on Friday, So

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Speaker 3: that's the start. I think. Well, heck, they gotta get ready, Todd.

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Speaker 3: They got the WBZ starting in like two weeks.

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Speaker 4: This should have started the day after the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: Let's go.

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Speaker 1: Well, no, some of them get their Valentine's Day in

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Speaker 1: and then they jump.

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Speaker 2: Right after that. Right, that's part of the deal.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, in all seriousness, Todd, if you were

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Speaker 1: playing the WBC in the first game's Friday, and then

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Speaker 1: the WBC starts in like two weeks. You know how

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Speaker 1: guys say, oh, I need X amount of at bats

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Speaker 1: to be ready for the season. Well, for most of

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Speaker 1: these guys, they treat it like a big deal.

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Speaker 2: They want to be seasoned ready way sooner.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think that starts with live at bats too.

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Speaker 5: It's one of those things where you know only a

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Speaker 5: the same time, hey, man, if I can hop in

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Speaker 5: Of course, you know your body is not fully ready

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Speaker 5: for that. And I always tell everybody you can't really

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Speaker 5: get ready for spring training. That's standing around you put

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Speaker 4: Hour and thirty minutes. It still won't it won't help

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Speaker 5: But yeah, I would like to get extra bats, extra

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Speaker 5: sure I'm in tip top shape to play this this

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be big. We're gonna be covering it extensively.

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Speaker 1: We'll have some postgame shows too.

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Speaker 3: But by the way, you can't play nine innings except

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Speaker 3: if you're Tom Kelly. If you're playing for Tom Kelly,

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Speaker 3: who would play the catcher nine innings the first spring

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it happened. It happened. Marcus Jensen, who's a

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Speaker 3: and he finally took me out one year. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: he'll tests you right away, test you right away.

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Speaker 2: Right after the little I feel like that's a little much. No,

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Speaker 3: I was young man. I was like, I'll play. I'll

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Speaker 3: play forty innings if you want me to. Like twenty two,

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Speaker 3: I'll put You need me to play a doubleheader, I'll

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Speaker 3: do it. I'll figure it out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Tom told you to do that. When you're thirty

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Speaker 3: You might have had a little different conversation.

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Speaker 2: Let's chat in the office.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well we have we have some office conversation

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Speaker 2: So let's charge.

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Speaker 3: Let's charge it out.

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Speaker 1: So this is three days in a row now leading

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Speaker 1: in the Players Association. So since we had our last show,

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Speaker 1: we now know that Bruce Meyer is going to lead

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Speaker 1: I mean, remember aj they had a meeting first the

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Speaker 1: He knows the deal, he knows how to say no,

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Speaker 2: But Meyer has.

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Speaker 1: Been in this role now for a while, going up

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Speaker 1: against Manfred's number two, the deputy Commissioner, whose name is

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Speaker 3: Jeez, Scott, you're putting a loan.

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Speaker 1: I'm just being real about how this stuff goes blah

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I hope they don't. I saw Bruce last night

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Speaker 3: but when I talked to him, he gave me a

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Speaker 3: get this job done and now I'm ready to rock

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Speaker 3: for the players to have someone that was already in

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Speaker 3: the owners know what they're getting in Bruce Meyer. Whether

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Speaker 3: the hell out of the CBA for his side, which

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Speaker 3: We talked Terrek School arbitration case. Bruce Meyer went in

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Speaker 3: there and was the final argument for Trek Scoogle. That's

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Speaker 3: not happy on the owner's side when Bruce Meyer sat down,

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Speaker 3: because he knows the CBA, he knows labor law, and

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Speaker 3: this was a nice hire. Now how long will last?

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Speaker 3: I don't know. Bruce, does he have the greatest personality

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Speaker 3: for personality. Don fear to have the greatest personality in

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Speaker 2: Todd, can I just bring up an analogy that I

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Speaker 2: think will help this case too.

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Speaker 1: So let's say you have an agent and some people

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Speaker 1: are like, Eh, he's not the most fun to get

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Speaker 1: but he always gets me the best deals are the

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Speaker 1: best contracts. That's their job, right. So you may not

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Speaker 1: not the funniest person in the world. I don't want

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Speaker 1: want him to be the guy that knows how to

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Speaker 1: say no if he's trying if another entity like MLB

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Speaker 1: is trying to bully the players, right, because they have

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Speaker 1: a billion lawyers, the Player Association is a billion lawyers. Too,

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Speaker 1: But you can't have a guy that's like, yeah, you

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Speaker 1: know what, that's fine, We'll just do that.

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Speaker 2: It's okay.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you're one hundred percent accurate with that.

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Speaker 4: He's a guy for me.

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Speaker 5: When I was there, he went unnoticed, and I think that's,

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Speaker 5: in all fairness, that's a really good thing. These are

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Speaker 5: But for a guy like this, I said hi to

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Speaker 5: how long again, we don't know, but he's the guy.

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Speaker 5: I think he's going to put it in his back

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Speaker 5: All due respect to the owners, I think they're you know,

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Speaker 5: and how new and how different there. Bruce is going

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Speaker 5: ultimately this changes the game for everybody and everyone involved.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's not held back with any of the

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Speaker 5: No, that's what I was gonna say. It's his game now,

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Speaker 4: So it's falls in your court now, so we'll know.

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Speaker 3: Todd, he can go over the He can go over

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Speaker 3: do it because he's in charge now, and I think

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Speaker 3: I don't know what he's gonna make or what they make,

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Speaker 1: So he was making about one and a half mil

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Speaker 4: We don't know. I had no clue, nobody.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, those mbers happen to be filed it's it's labor law.

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Speaker 4: It's like whatever, they're doing their job, good stuff.

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Speaker 5: But there's a lot there's a lot of little things

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Speaker 5: here now for the players that they'll know more.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, that was it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So those are those are the numbers. That's as

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Speaker 3: As much as listen. Yeah, but Scott, the money's nice, right,

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Speaker 3: Prove it you're behind the players, Prove that you can

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Speaker 2: Let me you don't know that.

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Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal top rate right now that's going for

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Speaker 1: Do you know if it's at now per hour if

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Speaker 5: I'm like, you know what smart move law schools.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's good living.

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Speaker 1: Scott, Well, there's not a salary cap on a free

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Speaker 1: how does this affect me? It affects you just about zero.

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Speaker 1: It's the same exact people that would be putting together

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Speaker 1: So does it affect how the next CBA works yet?

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Speaker 1: Really, it's gonna be the same stance from this team

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Speaker 1: field for the Angels. Trout has battled injuries for years,

437
00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,960
Speaker 1: and you've got first year manager Kurt Suzuki in there.

438
00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,520
Speaker 1: Trout has a conversation with him in the org and

439
00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:38,200
Speaker 1: he's like, I've actually feel better in center field. Sounds

440
00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:40,240
Speaker 1: like he feels as if there's less wear and tear there.

441
00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:42,960
Speaker 1: And also, this had been discussed for the past couple

442
00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,320
Speaker 1: of years. If he's just eching all the time, he's

443
00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:47,320
Speaker 1: going to take too many swings. He thinks he'll stay

444
00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:50,720
Speaker 1: healthiest in center field. We posted about it, and actually

445
00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:53,120
Speaker 1: I'll show you one reply from Mike Cameron, who manned

446
00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:56,040
Speaker 1: center fields for a long time in this sport, and

447
00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:57,360
Speaker 1: he said ego is crazy man.

448
00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:01,080
Speaker 2: Of course he got some pushback for that. I understood

449
00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:02,200
Speaker 2: what he was saying, right.

450
00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:05,879
Speaker 1: It's like Todd father you're the best in the world

451
00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:08,080
Speaker 1: for a long period of time, and you feel like

452
00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:09,840
Speaker 1: you still got it and you can handle it out there,

453
00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,840
Speaker 1: and you desperately want to stay on the field, you know, Troudy.

454
00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:16,760
Speaker 1: I'm just going to take the organizational side here and

455
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Speaker 1: just the fan side of watching Mike for years battle

456
00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,720
Speaker 1: through injuries. I know he's taking a lot of swings.

457
00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:25,520
Speaker 1: If he's a DH, to take less swings, you got

458
00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,520
Speaker 1: a DH. He's got years left on this deal and

459
00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,560
Speaker 1: he's not grading out well in the outfield anymore.

460
00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:33,000
Speaker 2: So what do you do here?

461
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Speaker 1: If you're the Angels and you've got a manager on

462
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Speaker 1: a one year contract who doesn't want to say no

463
00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:39,000
Speaker 1: to anybody, let alone the best player.

464
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Speaker 5: Maybe it goes to show you where Mike Trout is

465
00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:47,440
Speaker 5: right now. Maybe he feels really really good. Maybe it's

466
00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:49,960
Speaker 5: a thing where he feels like, all of a sudden,

467
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Speaker 5: if I go in this position and I'm the DH

468
00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:55,600
Speaker 5: and I'm not playing outfield anymore, it's kind of fizzling

469
00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:58,679
Speaker 5: my way out of there. I don't mind it. I

470
00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,199
Speaker 5: like always come out. I think it shows confidence. I

471
00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,680
Speaker 5: think it shows his ability of where he's at and

472
00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:09,120
Speaker 5: his body right now. I don't have all the answers

473
00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,119
Speaker 5: to why he wants to play center field, but I

474
00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:14,040
Speaker 5: feel like, if that's it and that's what he wants

475
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Speaker 5: to do, man let him do it. I feel like

476
00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,679
Speaker 5: he wants to show everybody that he can play, you know,

477
00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,000
Speaker 5: one hundred and forty five hundred and fifty games a

478
00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:24,479
Speaker 5: year and be the guy of old and you know, listen,

479
00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:27,280
Speaker 5: I don't know how many years he has left in

480
00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,560
Speaker 5: his contract, but it's got it's coming.

481
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Speaker 4: Oh he has a lot, Yeah, he has a lot. Yeah.

482
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Speaker 5: I mean, so listen, I'm not worried. I'm not worried

483
00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:38,040
Speaker 5: about it. I'm not worried about it at all. I

484
00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:39,680
Speaker 5: want the guy to go out there and play center field.

485
00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:41,479
Speaker 5: He's one of the most electric players there is when

486
00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:45,160
Speaker 5: he's healthy, and I don't see that as a bad choice.

487
00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:46,879
Speaker 5: But then all he gets hurt, it's going to come

488
00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,000
Speaker 5: back home. Anybody has a chance to get hurt in

489
00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,400
Speaker 5: this game. I think it just goes to show where

490
00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:53,280
Speaker 5: he is and where he's at in his program and

491
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Speaker 5: how confident he is of being healthy.

492
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Speaker 3: Here's I agree with you, Todd on that part. But

493
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Speaker 3: here's here's the one thing I'll say to that though

494
00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,359
Speaker 3: you cover so much more ground in center field. And yes,

495
00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:09,600
Speaker 3: I understand he's more comfortable out there and he's done it,

496
00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,560
Speaker 3: but you have to cover so much more ground. And

497
00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:14,240
Speaker 3: what has Mike Trout had most A lot of his

498
00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:17,680
Speaker 3: issues with right calves and hamstrings and stuff like that.

499
00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,280
Speaker 3: So if you can back right, you have to lessen that.

500
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Speaker 3: If you're Mike Trout at this age, and I kind

501
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:25,960
Speaker 3: of agree with it. You said, if you have to

502
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:29,560
Speaker 3: DH some don't take a million swings. Take find a routine,

503
00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:31,920
Speaker 3: or you take five to ten swings in between you

504
00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:33,440
Speaker 3: don't take you don't have to take one hundred swings in

505
00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,359
Speaker 3: between the bats. And I mean, we just want to

506
00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,520
Speaker 3: see Mike Trout on the field. And if it's center field,

507
00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:40,399
Speaker 3: that gives them the best chance. If it's left field,

508
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,320
Speaker 3: if it's right field, if it's shortstop, if it's first base,

509
00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:46,560
Speaker 3: if it's DH, whatever it is, baseball is better when

510
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:48,280
Speaker 3: Mike Shout's on the field. So if he thinks it can,

511
00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,720
Speaker 3: he can do it. We'll see. Well, we just want

512
00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:53,800
Speaker 3: Mike Trout on the field, so let's just do whatever

513
00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:55,440
Speaker 3: helps him stay on the field the most.

514
00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:58,920
Speaker 2: Okay, well, what helps him stay on the field.

515
00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:02,800
Speaker 1: The most is that that he mostly DHD last year.

516
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:05,120
Speaker 2: He did twenty.

517
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,440
Speaker 1: Two games in right field and one hundred and six

518
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 1: as the DH, and he actually appeared in one hundred

519
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 1: thirty games last year. It was the most games that

520
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 1: he's appeared in since twenty Nope, we're not even in

521
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 1: the twenties since twenty nineteen, okay, And there's a lot

522
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 1: of like, you know, twenty twenty one, thirty six games,

523
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,639
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, one hundred nineteen, twenty three, eighty two games,

524
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:32,880
Speaker 1: twenty four to twenty nine games, one hundred thirty games

525
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 1: last year. He might not have been totally pleased with

526
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:37,440
Speaker 1: his bat, but he still was one hundred and twenty

527
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 1: one ops plus. That's a very valuable bat within an

528
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:42,720
Speaker 1: organization that always needs offense.

529
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,600
Speaker 2: Right, So I don't know if.

530
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,960
Speaker 1: I need to activate roleplay here, but like, if I'm

531
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,200
Speaker 1: the organization, then I'm smart about it. I'm like, dude, enough,

532
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,560
Speaker 1: you're dhing because we haven't to do twenty thirty.

533
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:59,159
Speaker 2: I don't give if that's what so like, yes, but

534
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 2: they can't mistake that was an awful movement.

535
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 1: And if only there was a show that absolutely torched

536
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,959
Speaker 1: that move let me know if you find it.

537
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:11,680
Speaker 2: Oh, is this one?

538
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 3: I'm gonna look.

539
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,159
Speaker 2: Okay, there's a billion clips from it.

540
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,640
Speaker 5: Let me ask you this question with what Mike Cameron said,

541
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 5: ego was crazy. Man, you could take that a couple

542
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:23,639
Speaker 5: of different ways.

543
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:28,400
Speaker 1: Now, yeah, so fans thought that he meant like, oh,

544
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:29,200
Speaker 1: Trout is an ego.

545
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:30,159
Speaker 2: We all know Trout.

546
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:33,480
Speaker 1: He's humble, he's nice, he is he is a great personality.

547
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 1: To me, I took it as Cameron saying, Hey, you

548
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:42,399
Speaker 1: want to be the guy forever, right. Nick Castianos just

549
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 1: moved on from a team. And what was part of

550
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,719
Speaker 1: what sparked that the team saying, hey, dude, you're not

551
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,680
Speaker 1: grading out well defensively anymore, and so we don't want

552
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 1: you out in the outfield. We want to mix it up.

553
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,440
Speaker 1: We're going to replace you in a game. And he

554
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:58,880
Speaker 1: got pissed. So to me, there's this confidence level here.

555
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 1: I'll bring up the end now, top father. A player

556
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 1: gets hurt, or even someone that's not a pro athlete

557
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 1: gets hurt, they think they can return in five minutes,

558
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:07,920
Speaker 1: and you want to return in five minutes.

559
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:09,640
Speaker 2: But sometimes you got to take your time.

560
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 1: So for this one, for me, it's like, hey, centerfield's

561
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 1: not the spot for you anymore.

562
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 2: You don't grade well there, and we got to keep

563
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 2: you on the field.

564
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 1: You're getting paid a ton of money through twenty thirty,

565
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 1: so DH worked. And if you feel like you're taking,

566
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 1: like Aj said, you take it too many swings, you're

567
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 1: a human being.

568
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 2: Take less swings. I don't feel like this is complicated.

569
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:30,359
Speaker 1: But the Angels, I think, feel like they're in a

570
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,359
Speaker 1: tough spot because they have a manager on a one

571
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,440
Speaker 1: year deal. If the manager's on a three year deal,

572
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 1: he's he's almost taken his deal through the end of

573
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,119
Speaker 1: Trat's deal, and he's like, listen, bro, I want to

574
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 1: get along with you, but I want to win games,

575
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,399
Speaker 1: and I'm going to put a better outfield out there. Really,

576
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,239
Speaker 1: I am going to put some blame on perrimanation here

577
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:49,120
Speaker 1: because I've been I've been trusting his process for years

578
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 1: and I'm starting to turn there Todd Father, because I

579
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 1: thought the Solaier move was a disaster and it almost

580
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,400
Speaker 1: put them in a corner where they had to put

581
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,360
Speaker 1: Trout in the outfield because Solaire's not going to play

582
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,199
Speaker 1: the outfield much or shouldn't. Okay, what he should be

583
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 1: doing is like this offseason, I'd be going after Harrison Bater,

584
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 1: so Trout can't even look at center field because you know,

585
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 1: Bader is one of the best in the biz out there,

586
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 1: so I'm spending money on that so that I don't

587
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 1: have this problem, because it would be hard for Trout

588
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 1: to sit down with Kurtzuzuki and be like, I should

589
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 1: play center field. But they're looking right now, like who's

590
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:17,879
Speaker 1: playing centerfield?

591
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 5: Okay, I'll play it, Yeah, yeah, who else are they're

592
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 5: going to put out there?

593
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 3: Dude's well. Adella last year was the guy who played

594
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,199
Speaker 3: center fields. He wasn't bad, was he? I don't know

595
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 3: the number.

596
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,680
Speaker 1: No, I'd rather have him, but he doesn't grade well

597
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,440
Speaker 1: as far as I remember either. I mean, he made

598
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 1: plenty of mistakes last year, but I would rather have

599
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,959
Speaker 1: him out there fresh legs than than Trout, who's had

600
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:43,119
Speaker 1: trouble staying on the field.

601
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:43,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, but.

602
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 1: I mean Josh Slow's there now, but I think he's

603
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 1: better in a corner.

604
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 4: I don't know it's in.

605
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:54,959
Speaker 3: Listening, but whatever. In as far as Cammi's comments my Cameron,

606
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 3: I think, yes, there comes a point in everyone's career.

607
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,439
Speaker 3: Todd you went through. I went through it where you

608
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:02,919
Speaker 3: have to look yourself in the mirror and say, I

609
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 3: can't do what I could do at twenty five years old.

610
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 3: I'm thirty plus. Now I need to take less swings. Hey,

611
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 3: maybe I need to catch less or I need to

612
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:11,920
Speaker 3: play the field less.

613
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 2: Right.

614
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,119
Speaker 3: It kind of happens to everybody. Heck, even Tom Brady

615
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 3: had to freaking succumb to father time at a certain point,

616
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:21,959
Speaker 3: and he thought he'd played for till he was seventy

617
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 3: because he didn't need tomatoes. Right, So you have to

618
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,159
Speaker 3: look yourself in the mirror and say, man, I can't

619
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 3: do this every day in centerfield. If it's best for

620
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 3: me to stay on the field, and listen, Mike wants

621
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 3: to do it. They're gonna let Mike do it, whether

622
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,640
Speaker 3: his manager's on a one year deal, a five year deal, whatever,

623
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 3: because he's still might trout. But whatever Mike helps you

624
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:43,439
Speaker 3: get on the field, please do that because I want

625
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 3: to see you play more.

626
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 4: Agree.

627
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,959
Speaker 5: So inconclusion, yeah, it's still his team at the end

628
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 5: of the day, So I mean, listen.

629
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 2: I agree.

630
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,880
Speaker 1: But like, okay, so let's say there is somebody that's

631
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 1: that's thinking they're going to be there beyond this year,

632
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 1: because this is part of the problem, and this is

633
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 1: where there's always an ownership issue.

634
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 2: Right.

635
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 1: People are on like year to year situations basically there,

636
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 1: so it puts you in a tougher spot to be

637
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 1: able to back something up when Trout's going to be

638
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,199
Speaker 1: there longer than you. Let's say I'm Kurt Zuzuki and

639
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 1: I'm on a longer term deal, so I feel more

640
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 1: stable in my position and Todd Father we have an

641
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 1: offseason chat. Hey, Trouty, you played one hundred and thirty

642
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 1: games last year, Bro, that was way more than you'd

643
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 1: played previously, and we want you to stay on the field.

644
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 1: You can be our best bat. Your defense has been

645
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:37,120
Speaker 1: great in the past. You're in your mid thirties and

646
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 1: it's not great and as well anymore. And I can't

647
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:42,959
Speaker 1: see you, but I feel like you're probably doing that

648
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 1: thing where you kind of roll your eyes and you

649
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 1: rotate your finger, like, yeah, keep going, Kurt, but I

650
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 1: need you to mostly DH and then play a little

651
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 1: bit of corner outfields a skipper.

652
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 5: I haven't got a grade since high school. I'm not

653
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 5: worried about grades. I'm worried about getting on the field

654
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 5: and helping this team. I gotta go because I got

655
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 5: another workout to tend to. We'll talk and spring.

656
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 1: Okay, great, so I know you hung up, but I'll

657
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 1: have you hitting third dhing on opening Day.

658
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 2: Awesome. Thanks, But I mean to me aj like it's

659
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 2: hurting the team. It is. I'm sorry.

660
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 1: Like his percentage chance of getting hurt is much higher

661
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 1: in centerfield. We all know that that's a fact.

662
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,959
Speaker 4: But everybody has a percentage chance of getting hurt. Scott.

663
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 5: That's where I'm not trying to argue with you. I'm

664
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 5: just telling, yeah, he's been hurt a lot more. But

665
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 5: if he's healthy and he's not rehabbing or getting massaged

666
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 5: out after every game and ice and this and that,

667
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 5: if he's if he's there, which we don't know hopefully

668
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 5: he is, then I'm not worried about him.

669
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 1: Man, Let him go play DH and some corner outfield

670
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 1: he doesn't want to.

671
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 2: Centerfield is a demanding position.

672
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 1: It's it's one of the most demanding positions, and you

673
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 1: need you need someone out there that's that's a stud.

674
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 2: At the position.

675
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 4: He's still a stud at that episode.

676
00:29:57,920 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 2: Stud Bat, stud Bat.

677
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 1: I'm taking a hard stance on this one, because this

678
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 1: is a team that needs to win every game they can.

679
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 1: And I just feel like we always talk about these

680
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 1: stories that wouldn't be a thing with another team. Another

681
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 1: team would have had a center fielder in there that

682
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 1: they feel really good about, and then it would put

683
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 1: Trott in a position where he couldn't even ask for centerfield.

684
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 5: I want to go back. You don't think he's a

685
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 5: good center fielder when he's healthy.

686
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,959
Speaker 2: Not anymore? No, not above average, not anymore.

687
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 4: All right, Well we'll disagree on that one too.

688
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 1: Perfect storm right, He's not an above average center fielder. He's

689
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 1: been injured a lot. He actually stayed on the field

690
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 1: as a DH. I love the guy, I love the player.

691
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 1: I want him playing as many games as possible every time.

692
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 1: This happens almost every year besides last year. Obviously you

693
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 1: didn't miss as much time. When he goes down, you

694
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 1: just feel like someone popped a balloon and you're like,

695
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 1: all right, and Traut got hurt and the Angels are toast.

696
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 5: You got to put money on yourself and if you

697
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 5: if you're confident enough and you feel that way, I

698
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 5: want to play. I want to play center field, like

699
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 5: go ahead, go ahead, you think Angels are winning the

700
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 5: World Series?

701
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 1: No, but I think I think if the Angels want

702
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 1: to shock the world and win eighty two games or

703
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: whatever the heck, their goal is, you need a full

704
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 1: fledged Trout, hey, j I mean if you were the manager,

705
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 1: would you be okay with this? Would you be like, yeah,

706
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 1: go for it, knowing that there is a higher percentage

707
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 1: chance he's gonna get hurt and it's going to screw

708
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: your team over.

709
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 3: Scott, I'm gonna ask you this. Do you remember the

710
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 3: time that Bryce Harper got bench for not running a

711
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 3: ball out by Matt Williams? He was not on a

712
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 3: one year contract and who got fired from the Nationals.

713
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 2: But wait, what does that have to do with it?

714
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 3: Not Bryce Harper? You said, if I'm the manager on

715
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 3: the long term deal, I'm telling him he ain't playing

716
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 3: center field, Dude, Matt Williams tried to out Bryce Harper.

717
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 3: Guess who was not in Washington very long after that?

718
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 3: Not Bryce Harper. Right, Mike Trout is the icon of

719
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 3: the Angels franchise for a long time. Now, Mike Trout

720
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 3: wants to play center field, you give him a shot.

721
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 3: If it doesn't work out after a month, you say, Mike,

722
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 3: you're banged up. Here's the metrics. Right you pull out

723
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 3: the I old iPad and you say, Mike, here's the metrics.

724
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 3: The defensive run saves ain't great. Now we're gonna try

725
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 3: someone else. And then you go to whatever his DRSS

726
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 3: were last year in right field and you say, Mike,

727
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 3: you were better in right field last year, or you're

728
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 3: gonna be better in left field. We need you to

729
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 3: play there. And then if Mike says no, then you

730
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 3: have another conversation. But for right now, you give him

731
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 3: the shot in spring training, You give him a month

732
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 3: or whatever it takes, and if it's not working out,

733
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 3: then you go to him. But right now, he's Mike

734
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 3: Trout and he's got he's earned that right to try.

735
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 1: Okay, that's fine. I mean, I see what you guys

736
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 1: are saying. I just disagree. I would have had the

737
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 1: combo now because I already had the years.

738
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 3: I guarantee you, I guarantee you. They've already had this conversation.

739
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 3: Why do you think he played right field last year?

740
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 3: Because they had this conversation. Why do you think he

741
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 3: dh last year? They had this conversation. Mike Trout went

742
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 3: in the off season, built a new golf course, worked

743
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 3: out probably the best shape of his life. Right here,

744
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 3: he is, I want to play center field. You give

745
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 3: him the shot. The Angels aren't winning the World Series

746
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 3: more than likely, right right, American League West, Mariners, Astros, Rangers,

747
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 3: Athletics are all probably better than the Angels. Correct. Correct,

748
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 3: Give him a shot.

749
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't think it's gonna go well, but I

750
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 1: hear you it's not really gonna matter. That's actually a

751
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 1: good way over there, Non negative, Nancy. I'm only saying

752
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 1: it because he's missed so much time. When you guys

753
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 1: miss that much time and he's thirty four years old,

754
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 1: you don't put him in center field.

755
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 4: I get it. I get it.

756
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 5: But if he's telling me as a manager, hey skip,

757
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 5: I work this offseason.

758
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 4: I feel good.

759
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 5: I'm I'm ready to get back in the center field.

760
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 5: I want to prove to everybody I have no fluke.

761
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 5: I'm gonna help this team win. I'm gonna be a leader.

762
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 5: And guess what, you're first team manager. What will you

763
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 5: say to that? You're like, you know what? Gave me goosebumps?

764
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 5: Right there, let's go. The Mike Trout of old is

765
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 5: coming back and guess what, like AJ just said, Honestly,

766
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 5: if he's not getting the balls, if all of a sudden,

767
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 5: you know, he made an error here or there, or

768
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 5: he's like man and you know what, I need a

769
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 5: break by DH mean put me there.

770
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, then do it.

771
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 5: But if he looks if he looks good, and you

772
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 5: get involved, which I still disagree with you. I still

773
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:13,439
Speaker 5: think he's above average center fielder, We'll see what happens there.

774
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 5: But spring training's gonna tell a lot. Spring training's gonna

775
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 5: tell a whole heck of a lot because he's gonna

776
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 5: do with four or five innings, take a day off,

777
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 5: maybe two, another four or five, you know, and it's

778
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 5: gonna ramp up a little bit.

779
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:25,359
Speaker 2: That's fair, right.

780
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,399
Speaker 1: You let him run around in spring training and see

781
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 1: what it looks like and see how he feels.

782
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,760
Speaker 2: Okay, next up. Injury not good.

783
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 1: We've talked about it a little bit, but it sounds

784
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 1: more serious than initially anticipated. And we don't even know

785
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 1: as of now, unless there's something that's come out in

786
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 1: the last like thirty to sixty minutes. Jordan Westburg is

787
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 1: hurt for the Orioles and he is a very valuable

788
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 1: piece of the puzzle Jacob Calvin Meyer with the tweet

789
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 1: from this morning to help explain what's going on there.

790
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 1: Manager Craig Albernaz, when asked if Westburg's injury to whatever

791
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 1: body parts, since they won't say, we don't know, it

792
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 1: could be oblique, elbow is worse than originally feared. Quote,

793
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 1: just want to make sure that we're doing our diligence

794
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,280
Speaker 1: and make sure Jordan isn't the best chance to play

795
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,800
Speaker 1: this year. And then Calvin Meyer put at the bottom

796
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 1: this year question mark. So aj when we initially learned

797
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 1: about the oblique because he had some imaging done also

798
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 1: on his elbow. This is from the Baltimore Banner saying

799
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:26,359
Speaker 1: that he underwent imaging on the elbow. Prognosis is to

800
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 1: be determined. Currently unable to participate at camp. So we

801
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 1: initially heard about the oblique and then you know, it

802
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: was like, oh, they'll slow play it, but he should

803
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 1: be ready for spring training. So I'm gonna like give

804
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 1: the educated guest that it's more elbow related at this point,

805
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 1: that's the bigger concern, and then we'll see what happens here.

806
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 1: But this would be a huge blow. They've got some

807
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: depth there in the infield. But Westburg is an all

808
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 1: star caliber player.

809
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's one of the leaders on this team. If

810
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,280
Speaker 3: you talk to the Orioles, I'll tell you that Jordan

811
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,720
Speaker 3: Osburg is a big leader for him. Orhere'd the elbow

812
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,800
Speaker 3: come from? We were all talking oblique, like Todd, what happened?

813
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 3: He was doing some crunches he heard an elbow, like

814
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 3: what happened? Because remember the whole talk was early on,

815
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 3: like you said, Scott Oblik oblk oblique and now and

816
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,839
Speaker 3: the thing that's weird is when you said when Craig

817
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 3: Alberna said the year, like, is he gonna miss the

818
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 3: whole year? A bleak? Is you know, it could be

819
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 3: a month or two, but elbow, I guess could be

820
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 3: a year if you get the old Thomas Jonas.

821
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 5: Tomas Jean. Yeah, this is this is different. This is

822
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 5: different than what we've expected, and specifically for me, when

823
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,240
Speaker 5: you hear about an injury you don't hear much about

824
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 5: and then it finally comes out what it was, not

825
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:37,839
Speaker 5: the exact prognosis, then you're like, hmm, okay, why were

826
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 5: they trying to hide this a little bit more? I've

827
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 5: had tons of o bleaks I'm sure AJ has. They're

828
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 5: painting the in the side, literally, but eventually they do

829
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,280
Speaker 5: go away after about you know, twenty five thirty days.

830
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:55,879
Speaker 5: Elbow knock on wood man, it's scary, so there could

831
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 5: be a whole bunch of things in there, you know,

832
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 5: hoping it's maybe a little tenlbow or something. So he

833
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 5: takes a couple of weeks off and he's fine. But

834
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 5: position player with an elbow, that kind of scary it is.

835
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 1: And hey, AJ, they kept Mountcastle. I mean, Ken has

836
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,280
Speaker 1: talked about how he might be on the trade block,

837
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 1: but Kobe Mayo is still there, so you're able to

838
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: mix the match a little bit and fill the spot

839
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 1: with someone who could be a regular big leaguer, you know,

840
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:28,800
Speaker 1: a full time player.

841
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 2: Those guys got to prove something good position I know, yeah,

842
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 2: you guys.

843
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 3: You know Mountcastle has had some good years, he's had

844
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 3: some injuries. To Kobe Mayo hasn't proven anything. I'm sorry.

845
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 3: I mean, he's been a prospect forever and he every

846
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 3: time he comes up he doesn't hit, which is what's

847
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 3: supposed to be his tool. So maybe this SERI he

848
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 3: figures it out. But Jordan Westberg, you know this when

849
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 3: he's in there, he's going to give you a good

850
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:50,280
Speaker 3: at bat and he's going to hit you some power.

851
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 3: He's a good defender, and like I said earlier, if

852
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 3: you talk to guys in the oriols, they'll say Jordan

853
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,800
Speaker 3: Westberg is a leader in that room and that's important.

854
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a stud.

855
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 1: Hopefully it's not too bad for him, but it sounds

856
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 1: like Westbrook and Holiday will not start the season for Baltimore,

857
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 1: a team that's looking to rebound from what was a

858
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:11,879
Speaker 1: disaster year.

859
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 5: Results come to Blue Jays first, first two months, watch out,

860
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 5: they might take us commandingly.

861
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: Well, that actually perfectly transitions us to the New York

862
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: Yankees and Ryan McMahon. McMahon might get some reps at

863
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 1: shortstop in spring. Todd Father, do you like this? I mean,

864
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 1: he's a supreme defender over at third. How about a

865
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 1: little shortstop time to see if he can be a

866
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 1: backup option if needed. According to manager Aaron Boone, I

867
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 1: mean those Yankees are going to be chasing the Blue Jays,

868
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 1: you would think all year battling it out with them.

869
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 1: What do you think about McMahon getting some time over

870
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 1: there at shortstop? Since you know you're not gonna have

871
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,360
Speaker 1: Vulpi to start the year and his caballero and everyday shortstop.

872
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's okay, I mean nothing that's going to be

873
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:58,800
Speaker 5: like whoa man, that's a really good idea. I like

874
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 5: him over at third base and anything I is a

875
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 5: versatile enough to play shortstop most likely. Most likely there

876
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:07,879
Speaker 5: are two different positions, a lot more ground to cover

877
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 5: at shortstop, a lot more stuff. You gotta worry about,

878
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 5: double plays, you know, tagging guys out, being the leader

879
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:16,839
Speaker 5: a little bit more there too, as well.

880
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 4: Positioning.

881
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 5: It's a different ballgame and the field looks that much

882
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 5: bigger when you go to shortstop. So I do like

883
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 5: I'm a third He'll be the third baseman, but you

884
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 5: have to have a backup. Maybe there's something else they

885
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 5: got going on in case they got to move him

886
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 5: over and put somebody else there at third base. I

887
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 5: know Rosario is an option. There's all different types of

888
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 5: players you can put there, but the more natural position

889
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 5: is third base.

890
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 3: Scot or tug. Do you know the hardest position to

891
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 3: find in a lot of times for a baseball team

892
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 3: is do you know you guys know what that is?

893
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:56,439
Speaker 3: A backup utility player that can play shortstop in case

894
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 3: your shortstop goes down, that guy is super valuable if

895
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 3: you can find a utility guy that can play shortstop

896
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 3: when if your shortstop goes down for a week or

897
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 3: two weeks or a month, that guy is There's you

898
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 3: can't put a value on that guy for a team

899
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 3: to know that that guy is there, because the great

900
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 3: shortstop is his second for me only to the great

901
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 3: catcher as far as importance on a team, because they

902
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 3: command the infield, they command everything, and and it's tough.

903
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 3: Now can a man do it, probably, but can he

904
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 3: do it for a long period of time, we don't know.

905
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 3: But according to what Scott said, if if Scott said

906
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 3: like Scott said about Mike Trout, I'm not telling him.

907
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,320
Speaker 3: I'm just telling him he can't do it. So Scott,

908
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 3: he can't play it because you said it.

909
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 2: They're saying Ryan McMahon can't play shortstop.

910
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, because he you know, he's willing to and they're

911
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:48,760
Speaker 3: gonna give him a shot, Scott. So since Mike Trout

912
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 3: can't do it, McMahon can't do it because you said

913
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 3: it in role play with your phone.

914
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:58,280
Speaker 2: The phone, that's a troll comment, they said, totally. Situation

915
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 2: is a little different.

916
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 1: Right Man is a nice third, but he's no Mike

917
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,800
Speaker 1: Trout and that's what's causing this problem. You should be

918
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,800
Speaker 1: able to, as a manager put your chest pieces in

919
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:12,760
Speaker 1: the best position to win you games.

920
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 2: Period.

921
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 1: Every player says the same thing, I want to win

922
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 1: the most games possible. Cool, let me tell you how

923
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 1: to win the most games possible.

924
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 2: We know it and it's you playing.

925
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 3: Every player games, hold on, hold on. Every player says

926
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,240
Speaker 3: that every Every.

927
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 1: Player publicly says that some of them might be full

928
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 1: of shit, but every player publicly does every player not

929
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,840
Speaker 1: say my number one, number one goal this year, Sam Kennedy,

930
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 1: as possible, did Sam Kennedy.

931
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 3: Say that Raffi Devers did that when he would pick

932
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 3: up the glove, Remember he would pick he would pick

933
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 3: up the glove. We needed to play first. He wouldn't

934
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 3: pick up the glove.

935
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 2: That was Tom Warner. That's a different Red Sox Detective.

936
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,760
Speaker 1: Sam Kennedy talked about how he basically kind of dodged

937
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,280
Speaker 1: the question about Alex Bregman and the no trade clause,

938
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 1: which is weird and I cannot wait to talk to

939
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 1: Bregman at some point and just be like, hey, dude,

940
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 1: I think we should just lay it out once and

941
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 1: for all. We're the reds going to give you no

942
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 1: trade cause guarantee you. He's going to say no, and

943
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 1: then I don't know what the Red Sox response to that.

944
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 2: Is, But okay, sorry, I got Mountain around the al East.

945
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 3: I got, I got my Boston executives with strange quotes, confused,

946
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 3: I apologize.

947
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 2: No, You're good.

948
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 1: They were all strong candidates for Dork of the Week

949
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: this This was probably in our history of Fair Territory,

950
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 1: one of the most rigorous battles. And I actually don't

951
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 1: even know which one got chosen because there was probably

952
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,879
Speaker 1: five or six Dork of the Week candidates this week

953
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 1: for Kennon Alana and I didn't get to watch the

954
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 1: end of the episode because we have our show, so

955
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 1: I will be listening to that on Apple Podcasts on

956
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 1: my car ride home after this show.

957
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 2: But let's get to that's what he said.

958
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what he said.

959
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 2: That's what he said, that's what he said. That's what

960
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:47,439
Speaker 2: he said.

961
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 1: All right, So let's spin forward the Chris Bryant conversation.

962
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 1: He's on the sixty day il. He has barely played

963
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,280
Speaker 1: since being a member of the Rockies. He is at camp,

964
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 1: and he did speak, so let's listen to what he

965
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 1: said and then we'll talk about it.

966
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 7: But yeah, it's difficult.

967
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 2: It's not.

968
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 7: Easy waking up in pain every day. So yeah, so

969
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 7: now we're here, and I think just trying to determine

970
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 7: next steps while I'm here and with the training staff

971
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 7: and the doctors.

972
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 1: So I mean, to me, when I hear that Todd father,

973
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:31,399
Speaker 1: I don't feel like he's ever gonna play again.

974
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 2: I mean, he's in significant back pain. He's got a.

975
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:38,800
Speaker 1: Degenerative whatever it's called chronic back situation. You know, my

976
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: questions are is he going to ever play again? Nobody knows,

977
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 1: you know, except for maybe doctors and him. And then also,

978
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 1: is there nothing that can be done? You're like where

979
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 1: we're at with medicine. You know, if somebody's waking up

980
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 1: in massive amounts of pain and they're in their early thirties,

981
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 1: that's a problem for anybody.

982
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, And not to be an example, but that happened

983
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,760
Speaker 5: to me at the end of my career. Just anytime

984
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 5: I woke up in the middle of the night or

985
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 5: in that morning, it took me a good.

986
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 4: Two three hours sometimes four hours just to be able

987
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 4: to walk upright.

988
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,399
Speaker 5: And it's you know, I don't know what a pain

989
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:17,800
Speaker 5: he's experiencing, the general dist disease and the lumbar I mean, nothing,

990
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 5: nothing compares to you. Your back is, you know, right

991
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 5: in the middle there, and I just I feel for

992
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 5: the guy man, and you know, for him to come

993
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 5: out and say that, I hope there's something they can do.

994
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 5: I'm not going to count him out just yet, but

995
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 5: this could be a whole year long process. I mean

996
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 5: there's a lot they can do. Surgery, I don't know,

997
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 5: you know, can they give them, you know, a couple

998
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 5: of needles here to maintain it? We have no clue,

999
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 5: but you can see it on his face and the

1000
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 5: way he's talking. You feel for the guy man because

1001
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 5: he is He's a great dude. He's a great player

1002
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 5: and love playing against him.

1003
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 3: It's sad. It's just sad, that's it. It's just sad

1004
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:02,320
Speaker 3: that he didn't beget to become what everyone thought he

1005
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 3: would become when he first came up with the Cubs

1006
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 3: in twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, that that great

1007
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 3: run the Cubs had there.

1008
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 2: So.

1009
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 3: Remember he was the original guy for the player manipulation

1010
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 3: of service time. And remember they had the billboard for

1011
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,240
Speaker 3: I think it was Adidas that had the big billboard

1012
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 3: let's get Chris Bryan here whatever, right outside Wrigley. It

1013
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:27,800
Speaker 3: was a shame. It's a shame because everyone thought he

1014
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 3: was on a Hall of Fame track. You know, I

1015
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:31,240
Speaker 3: think you were a Rooie of the Year in MVP.

1016
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,359
Speaker 3: They won a World Series in Chicago. Then he gets

1017
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 3: traded it didn't work out there. Then he signs this

1018
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 3: huge deal with the Rockies and he hasn't been able

1019
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 3: to play, and if he never plays again, the amount

1020
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 3: of games that he's gonna miss. I mean, you could

1021
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 3: put this contract is one of the worst contracts of

1022
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 3: all time. Whoever you want to Strasburg, Rendel, whatever, whoever,

1023
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:49,800
Speaker 3: Chris Davis, whoever you want to throw out there, is

1024
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 3: the worst contracts of all time. This Chris Bryan won

1025
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 3: is definitely gonna be on the list if he doesn't

1026
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 3: play again. And it's in the biggest part of what

1027
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 3: people understand is it's sad. It's just sad. This guy's

1028
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 3: played baseball's entire life. Now it's going to be taken

1029
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 3: away from something that is kind of out of his control.

1030
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 3: It's just sad. It's just sad for Chris and his family.

1031
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 3: And I know he made a lot of money, but

1032
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 3: it's still sad.

1033
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 1: And if you want to learn more about the injury,

1034
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 1: we have an injury Territory show. Will Carol injury Expert

1035
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 1: covers it. And just to give you a sneak peek,

1036
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,800
Speaker 1: I mean, he said players do not come back from this,

1037
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 1: so he's not thinking that he's going to play again.

1038
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 1: And that would be one hundred and seventy games played

1039
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 1: with the Rockies out of a possible one thy one

1040
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 1: thirty four, so fifteen percent of games in that seven

1041
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 1: year contract.

1042
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 2: And yeah, this is not.

1043
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 1: Like a player going out there under performing because when

1044
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 1: he played the first year of Colorado, I think he

1045
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 1: got hurt at some point during that season, but he

1046
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 1: was hitting pretty well.

1047
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 2: I'm looking real quick.

1048
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 1: I think he had like one twenty eight ohps plus,

1049
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 1: which is pretty close to a lot of the numbers

1050
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 1: he was putting up before that. But then once once

1051
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 1: he went down, I mean, he just has not been

1052
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 1: able to pick it back up. So it sounds like

1053
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 1: something chronic that could knock him out for the rest

1054
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 1: of his career, got a few extra minutes for slap.

1055
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:14,720
Speaker 2: So I got two things.

1056
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 4: Prepped for you.

1057
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 1: Actually, first we're going to start with Sean Manaia, a

1058
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:26,320
Speaker 1: former athletic spending a little time in a college bullpen

1059
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 1: in casual clothing spotted. You know, he pitched for what

1060
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 1: Indiana State and he's at their game going up against Miami.

1061
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 2: So he was down in Coral Gables and he hung

1062
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:44,359
Speaker 2: out in the bullpen with the guys. To me, that's

1063
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:44,919
Speaker 2: pretty cool.

1064
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:47,799
Speaker 1: You got a big league accomplished pitcher in there who

1065
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 1: used to pitch, you know, out of school. That's not

1066
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 1: pumping out big leaguers left and right. If he calls

1067
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 1: and he's like, hey, I can stop by, I'd be like, cool,

1068
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 1: you can do whatever you want. You want to sit

1069
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:58,359
Speaker 1: in the dugout in the Freedom bullpen for a game.

1070
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:00,840
Speaker 1: And Sean is also one of the nicest guys in

1071
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 1: the sport too. He went like the Nice Guy Award

1072
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 1: I think last year in New York when he was

1073
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:07,359
Speaker 1: with the Mets. So you know, pop father pretty cool, right.

1074
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, that is pretty cool. And you know he didn't

1075
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 4: step on toes either.

1076
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:13,359
Speaker 5: He didn't go in the dugout you know, some people

1077
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 5: are probably like, oh, you should have did this and

1078
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 5: that went to the outfield. You know, shoot the shit

1079
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 5: with a couple of guys, maybe go over a couple

1080
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 5: different placements of the ball in your hand, just talk shop.

1081
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 5: And they were in the game there until late, you know,

1082
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 5: against the top twenty five Miami team. So that's got

1083
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 5: to be really exciting. The bullpen coach looked like he

1084
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 5: was having a good time there. Somebody was warming up.

1085
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 5: Looked like he just came off the street and was just, hey, man,

1086
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 5: do you mind if I sit next to you. He's

1087
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 5: that type of dude. He's a chill and to come

1088
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:46,800
Speaker 5: back to where he used to play and you know,

1089
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 5: talk a little shop about pitching.

1090
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 4: I mean, everybody should have been around him right there.

1091
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 4: It was so cool.

1092
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 3: It was awesome. It was awesome. He went back. His

1093
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 3: alma mater was down there. He went back, and of

1094
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 3: course he wants in the bullpen talk to the guys.

1095
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 3: Why not. I mean, he's in spring training right there

1096
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 3: in Port Saint Lucy drove down to Miami, and what

1097
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 3: a thrill for those kids, What a throw for those

1098
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 3: kids that are in college in Indiana State to have

1099
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 3: shanm and I. I sit next to him and talk

1100
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 3: to him, and I thought it was awesome. As someone

1101
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 3: that has a kid playing in college, if there was

1102
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 3: somebody that came down and talked to him and helped

1103
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:21,840
Speaker 3: him a little bit, if not only in baseball, on

1104
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 3: life and from what I know of Sean ma and I,

1105
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 3: he seems like a great guy. So if you can

1106
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:28,360
Speaker 3: get someone like that to come in and speak to

1107
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 3: your children and they help them, I'm all for it.

1108
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 4: Yep, no doubt.

1109
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 2: All right, let's get to one little move that went down.

1110
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 1: Minor league signing, but a guy who could crack the

1111
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 1: big league team, Mitch Garber agreeing with the Mariners on

1112
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 1: a minor league contract. He's thirty five years old, he

1113
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,359
Speaker 1: spent the last two years with the Mariners. He's going

1114
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 1: to compete for the backup catcher job to Cal Raley.

1115
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 1: So they also have Andrew Kisner on that roster right now.

1116
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 1: So AJ, if you're in Kisner spot, are you pay

1117
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 1: when you see something like this or is it pretty

1118
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:06,320
Speaker 1: standard where someone comes into camp and you see what happens.

1119
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:10,399
Speaker 3: It's pretty standard. Also, remember Garb didn't catch a whole

1120
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:12,800
Speaker 3: lot of games, right He went a while. Remember, for

1121
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 3: a while, they're like, he can't catch at all. He

1122
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:16,800
Speaker 3: didn't catch for a long time when he signed that

1123
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 3: deal with the Mariners originally, and then finally they're like, well,

1124
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:21,800
Speaker 3: we got to really catch him at some point. I

1125
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 3: think he went like a year and a half or

1126
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 3: someone without catching. And remember they eased him in. They

1127
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 3: ran it like a spring training game. He caught like

1128
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 3: five innings and cal Rawley came in and caught the

1129
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:32,839
Speaker 3: rest of the game, so he wasn't catching a whole lot.

1130
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:35,800
Speaker 3: If your kissner, you're like, okay, well it's another battle.

1131
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:39,400
Speaker 3: We'll see what happens. But it's the big leagues. You

1132
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 3: got to compete and you got to produce if you

1133
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 3: want to keep your job.

1134
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 4: Exactly.

1135
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:48,800
Speaker 5: Competition is healthy, it's healthy. You know, sign him in

1136
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 5: what they said as a minor league deal too as well. Yeah,

1137
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 5: there's competition, but you got to understand your worth and

1138
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:57,799
Speaker 5: you know what you were brought up to be. Play

1139
00:50:57,880 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 5: your game and everything will take care of itself.

1140
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 1: One more minor league signing, because we didn't get to

1141
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 1: it the other day and a couple of people were

1142
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 1: asking us about it and just for info for anyone.

1143
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 1: Minor league signing means that the team can essentially cut

1144
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:13,320
Speaker 1: you and it'll cost them nothing. Right, it's not a

1145
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 1: guaranteed big league contract. If you're a big leaguer, then

1146
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,359
Speaker 1: you get paid whatever the deal is that you could

1147
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 1: make millions of dollars on a minor league contract. I

1148
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:24,760
Speaker 1: believe Dylan Moore signed a contract where if he cracks

1149
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:26,439
Speaker 1: the big you know, he gets like three million bucks

1150
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 1: whatever it is. So it just doesn't guarantee that the

1151
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 1: player is going to get whatever he's signing for. Walker

1152
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:37,320
Speaker 1: Buehler signed a minor league contract with the San Diego Padres.

1153
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 1: Everyone knows Bueller for his Dodger days. That's when he

1154
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 1: shined and he's bounced around a little bit now. But

1155
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 1: he'll get a chance to crack a Padres rotation. They're

1156
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 1: bringing in a few of these flyers ag. I know

1157
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:50,799
Speaker 1: you guys talked about the Padres the other day. They

1158
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 1: had so much news that day with Castiano signing and

1159
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 1: aj Preller signing the extension. I feel like under the

1160
00:51:55,120 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 1: radar went Harmon Marquez and Scriffin, Canning and now Walker Buehler,

1161
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:03,880
Speaker 1: all guys that have a legit shot to be a

1162
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:04,760
Speaker 1: part of this rotation.

1163
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 3: Depth. It's all depth. What do we say they didn't

1164
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 3: have enough pitching, they didn't have those teams? What do

1165
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 3: the Dodgers do? What do the good teams do? The

1166
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 3: Blue Jays build depth. If you have enough depth, you

1167
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:16,319
Speaker 3: get through the season. If everyone works out, you get

1168
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 3: to the postseason, and then you move some guys to

1169
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 3: the bullpen if you need to and just add depth.

1170
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 3: You need depth to get through the season. These are

1171
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 3: nice depth pieces that can help the Padres win this year.

1172
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 1: And are all three of those guys going to be

1173
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 1: part of the Padres rotation for the season.

1174
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:32,320
Speaker 2: Absolutely not.

1175
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:35,360
Speaker 1: But even if one of them makes it through and

1176
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 1: becomes a factor, then it was great Canning's recovering. I

1177
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:39,840
Speaker 1: don't know if he's ready yet anyway, but he was

1178
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:41,439
Speaker 1: off to a nice start with the Mets. It looked

1179
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 1: like they unlocked something when he went from the Angels

1180
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 1: to the Mets. Herman Marquez used to have some good

1181
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 1: times and it's coming off you know, this will be

1182
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 1: his first full season coming off injury. I know he

1183
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:54,399
Speaker 1: wasn't good last year, but also he finally gets out

1184
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:58,279
Speaker 1: of Colorado and it's not just the environment there it's

1185
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 1: also for marquees joining a different pitching program. The Rockies

1186
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 1: up until this year were probably pretty far behind. Now

1187
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 1: they're bringing in a new staff, but maybe Marquez is

1188
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 1: able to find something. So that rotation right now is

1189
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 1: King Paveta, Musgrove, Randy Vazquez, and then could be Marquez,

1190
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:18,320
Speaker 1: eventually could be Canning, could be Walker Buehler. And lastly,

1191
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:22,319
Speaker 1: we look at the spring training tour calendar as we'll

1192
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 1: put a little check mark after today on the Ace

1193
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 1: foul Territory. Spring training calendar is engineered by Fast and All,

1194
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 1: So thank you to the a's for Katze and Rooker

1195
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:36,760
Speaker 1: and Jacob Wilson was great. And then Dodger Camp tomorrow

1196
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:41,760
Speaker 1: Saturday is Mariners Camp Live, Rangers Camp Live on Sunday

1197
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 1: next week Brewers, Reds, Cubs, Diamondbacks, Giants, and that'll finish

1198
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 1: up our Arizona.

1199
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 2: Portion of the tour before we flip it over to Florida.

1200
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:54,880
Speaker 1: So Dodger Camp tomorrow, AJ you'll have a lot of

1201
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 1: Rizzo helping you out there too.

1202
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:57,359
Speaker 2: Todd Father will be there.

1203
00:53:57,680 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 1: I will be annoying everyone in the chat, whether you

1204
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 1: like me, love me, or absolutely despise my haircut.

1205
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 2: I will be in the chat with.

1206
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:06,760
Speaker 3: You tomorrow.

1207
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 2: And wait on my way out. This is how I

1208
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 2: want to say goodbye. This is important. I wrote this

1209
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:13,320
Speaker 2: down from yesterday.

1210
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 1: I watched the whole live stream last night. So for

1211
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 1: Todd Father, the former Derby champ, I'm Scott Braun.

1212
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 2: And for the hit Machine, thank you, I love you.

1213
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 2: Alex call loved AJ growing up. He called him the

1214
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 2: Machine as a kid. Yes see you Friday, Come Voya.