1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:10,880 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. Good morning, I'm Nathan 2 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: Hager and I'm Karen Moscow. Here are the stories we're 3 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: following today. 4 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 2: Boeing shares are lower by four percent with labor unrest 5 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 2: for the planemaker. For the first time in sixteen years, 6 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 2: factory workers at Boeing have walked off the job. Members 7 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:35,559 Speaker 2: of the International Association Machinists and Aerospace Workers, which represents 8 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 2: straw three thousand Boeing employees across the West Coast, have 9 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 2: voted overwhelmingly to do what you just heard, to strike. 10 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 2: Bloomberg Aviation reporter Danny Lee says those members ignored a 11 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 2: plea for peace by new Boeing chief executive officer Calle Ortberg. 12 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 3: This is a new low for buying, considering all the 13 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 3: things I've happened to it over the past several months, 14 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 3: and the fact that Kelly Opberg was brought in to 15 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 3: fix all the shoes that are piling up for Boeing. 16 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 3: This is going to be a true test of his resolve, 17 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 3: his ability to show that for the board who hide him, 18 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:10,680 Speaker 3: how quickly he can fix things. Because he had a 19 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 3: strong track record at his previous company, So what can 20 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 3: he do to perhaps personally intervene and knock some sense 21 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 3: into the previous negotiating talks to see what more can 22 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 3: Boeing off of. Frankly, the twenty five percent over four 23 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 3: years clearly not enough for the work is particularly the 24 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 3: fact that the annual bonus was being taken away. 25 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 2: Bloomberg Aviation reporter Danny lie says ninety six percent of 26 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 2: union members supported the strike. Boeing shares, as I said, 27 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 2: are down nearly four percent this morning. 28 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 1: Well, Nathan, We're also focusing on the FED this morning 29 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: ahead of next week's rate decision. Former Bank of New 30 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: York FED president Bill Dudley says their scope for a 31 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: half point rate cut. Speaking at a forum organized by 32 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: the Bretton Woods Committee in Singapore, the Bloomberg Opinion columnists 33 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: suggested this slowing jobs market is now a more serious 34 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: concern than inflation. However, Mohammad Alarian, Queen's College Cambridge president 35 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: and also a Bloomberg Opinion columnist, is expecting a quarter 36 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: point cut. 37 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 4: We won't get dramatic series of fifties, but we will 38 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 4: be measured for the wrong reason. Will be measured because 39 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 4: the FED will remain over reactive, meaning it will be 40 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 4: two data dependent. I think the key issue about Greenspan, 41 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 4: Bernanke and Yellen when they were willing to lean forward 42 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 4: and take a view of the economy. Chair Powell is 43 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 4: not there yet. 44 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 1: And Mohammed Larian speaking of the Bloomberg's Tom Keen and 45 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: Paul Sweeney yesterday, the Fed decision comes on Wednesday. For 46 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: full Fed coverage, catch our special edition of Bloomberg Surveillance. 47 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 1: The Fed decides at one thirty pm Wall Street Time 48 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: this Wednesday on Bloomberg Radio and Television. 49 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:50,799 Speaker 2: Then Karen Ahead of that Fed decision, Gold has hit 50 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 2: another record high in Fact Bully and is on track 51 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 2: for a weekly gain of almost three percent. As for equities, 52 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 2: they've rallied every day this week. The S and P 53 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 2: five hundred rows three quarters of one percent yesterday. Nadia 54 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,399 Speaker 2: Lovell is Senior US S equity strategist of Global Wealth 55 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 2: Management at UBS. She says it is still a good 56 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 2: time to buy stocks. 57 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 5: You've got to put cash to work. I mean, the 58 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:14,519 Speaker 5: fact is about to cut. We know that debate is 59 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 5: still there all atus twenty five basis points or fifty 60 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 5: basis points, but the cut of cycle is starting, and 61 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 5: therefore you know what you're going to be able to 62 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 5: yield in cash is going to continue to go down, 63 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 5: and so we would look to be adding some about 64 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 5: cash into quality equities and also have bit into fixed income. 65 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 1: Natti. 66 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 2: A level at UBS has a year end target of 67 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 2: fifty nine hundred for the SMP five hundred. That's five 68 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 2: percent higher than yesterday's close. 69 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: Well Nathan, some stocks on the move this morning. Shares 70 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: of Adobe down more than eight percent. The company known 71 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: for its software for creative professionals, gave a revenue forecast 72 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: for the current quarter that missed Wall Street estimates. That's 73 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: fueling investor in patience for Adobe's AI tools to begin 74 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: generating sales. 75 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 2: On the flip side, Careen. Shares of Oracle are up 76 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 2: six The software maker says annual revenue will rise to 77 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 2: at least one hundred and four billion dollars in fiscal 78 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 2: twenty twenty nine. Analysts say it's an optimistic signal on 79 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 2: the growth prospects of Oracle's cloud infrastructure business. 80 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 1: Well Nathan, Turning to the race for the White House, 81 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: If you've been wondering whether there will be another debate 82 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 1: between former President Donald Trump and Vice President Kamala Harris. 83 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: Bloomberg's Amy Morris tells us, we have a pretty good 84 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 1: indication now it is not going to happen. 85 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 6: Donald Trump ruled out another debate with an all caps 86 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 6: declaration on truth social quote. There will be no third debate. 87 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 6: He insists he won their first debate, so he doesn't 88 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 6: need to participate in another one. Vice President Kamala Harris 89 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 6: spoke at a campaign event in Charlotte, North Carolina, shortly 90 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 6: after Trump's statement. 91 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,359 Speaker 1: I believe we owe it to the voters to have 92 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 1: another debate. 93 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 6: It is not clear if the Vice president was directly 94 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 6: responding to Trump's post. Trump and Harris's running mates, Republican 95 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 6: Senator jd Vance of Ohio and Democratic Minnesota Governor Tim Walls, 96 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 6: are slated to hold their owned on October first, with 97 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 6: CBS News in Washington. Anymore, as Bloomberg Radio right. 98 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 2: Amy, thank you sinking with politics. Donald Trump's making a 99 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 2: new pledge if he's elected, no tax is on overtime pay. 100 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 2: Bloomberg said, Baxter has the story. 101 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 7: Seeking to gain footing after the shaky debate. This is 102 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:20,039 Speaker 7: an effort by him and his strategist to change the 103 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 7: focus from debates and hit the road. To rallies and promises, 104 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 7: as when in Arizona. Aimed at a blue collar workers 105 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 7: that he needs to win, He says, the people who 106 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 7: work overtime are among the hardest working citizens in our country. 107 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 7: Not Over the last three months, Trump has rolled out 108 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 7: a steady drumbeat of tax cut plans. He has not 109 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 7: explained yet how to pay for them, and a Bloomberg 110 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 7: review says they would add more than ten point five 111 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 7: trillion dollars to the national debt over the next ten years. 112 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 7: Ed Baxter, Bloomberg. 113 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 1: Radio, all right, thank you. On Nippon Steele in United States, 114 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: Steel sent a letter to President Joe Biden earlier this 115 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 1: month on the Japanese companies propose takeover of its American peer. 116 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 1: The letter was signed by both company CEOs. Nippon Steele 117 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: has been mounting a last ditch attempt to try and 118 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: muster support for the fourteen point one billion dollar takeover attempt, 119 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: which faces widespread political opposition in the US ahead of 120 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: the presidential election in November. Time now for look at 121 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 1: some of the other stories making news in New York 122 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 1: and around the world. For that, we're joined by Bloomberg's 123 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 1: John Tucker, John Good morning. 124 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 8: And good morning Karen. The Justice Department preparing criminal charges 125 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:35,239 Speaker 8: in connection with an Iranian hack that targeted Donald Trump's 126 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 8: presidential campaign. Let's get to tales from Washington, Bloomberg, Steam podisc. 127 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 9: The prospect of criminal charges comes as the Justice Department 128 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 9: has raised alarms about aggressive efforts by countries, including Russia 129 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 9: and Iran, to medal in the presidential election. It was 130 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 9: not immediately clear when the charges might be announced. Assistant 131 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 9: Attorney General Matthew Olsen, the Justice Department's top national security official, 132 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 9: said in a speech Thursday, Iran is making a greater 133 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 9: effort to influence this year's election than it has in 134 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 9: prior election cycles, and that Iranian activity is growing increasingly 135 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 9: aggressive as this electioneers in Washington. Steve Potosk Bloomberg Radio. 136 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 8: UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer has arrived in Washington. It 137 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 8: comes ahead of a meeting with President Biden. Sources are 138 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 8: telling Bloomberg the US and UK are discussing allowing Kiev 139 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:32,239 Speaker 8: to conduct strikes inside Russia using British cruise missiles backed 140 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 8: by US navigational data. Speaking yesterday, Russian President Vladimir Putin 141 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 8: warned against the move. 142 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 10: Addison bud but this will be their direct participation, and 143 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 10: these of course will significantly change the very essence, the 144 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 10: very nature of the conflict. These wo mean that natal countries, 145 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 10: the US and European countries are at war with Russia. 146 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 8: Rut there through an interpreter. The discussion comes after the 147 00:07:56,640 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 8: US confirmed that Moscow has received shipments of ballistic missiles 148 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 8: from Iran. Cruis are battling three wildfires east of Los 149 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 8: Angeles in San Bernardino County. There's a red glow in 150 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 8: the sky and a strong haze in the air as 151 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 8: the flames continue. Three fires have scorts more than one 152 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 8: hundred thousand acres across southern California. Elon Mosk has labeled 153 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 8: the Australian government as fascists over proposed new laws to 154 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 8: crack down on digital misinformation, particularly on social media websites. 155 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 8: Under the proposed legislation, which have yet to pass Parliament, 156 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 8: social media companies could be fined up to five percent 157 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 8: of their annual revenue. Global news twenty four hours a 158 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:37,559 Speaker 8: day and whatever you want it with Bloomberg News. Now, 159 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 8: I'm John Tucker, and this he is Bloomberg. 160 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: Karen, all right, John Tucker, thank you time now for 161 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 1: the Bloomberg Sports Update with John stash Hour. 162 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 11: John, Good morning, Good morning, Karen. Yankees in the Red 163 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 11: Sax first the four at the stadium in Glabor, Torres 164 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 11: let off the game of the home run just made 165 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 11: it over the wall into the first world seats in 166 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 11: right field Yanks. They did not score again for the 167 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 11: next nine in names. Anthony Volpi came up in both 168 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 11: the fourth and six innings with the bases loaded, both 169 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 11: times flew out the left Red Sox got a game 170 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 11: time Danny Jansen home running the fifth off Nester Cortes. 171 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 11: The game was tied at one bottom of the tent. 172 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 12: Two two, so it all grounds it towards the medal. 173 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 12: Bayshi Per Sono thirty year round third Rafaela comes up 174 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 12: throwing on a hot thirty slide, says on Sono. 175 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 11: Wednesday game deef an two to one. Yankee wins second 176 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 11: straight and extra innings. It puts them two full games 177 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 11: ahead of IL Baltimore. The Yankee bullpen was terrific. Four 178 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 11: relievers followed towards test for the night. The Yanks in 179 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:44,319 Speaker 11: ten innings allowed only four Boston hits. They had fourteen strikeouts. 180 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 11: All four teams vying for the three NL wildcard sponsor 181 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 11: the night Off that includes the Mets, who played tonight 182 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 11: in Philadelphia, the Phillies thirty games over five hundred and 183 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 11: their fifty to twenty five, and home Thursday Night football 184 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 11: to kickoff Week two, all Buffalo in Miami thirty one 185 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 11: to ten. The Bills James Cook scored three first half 186 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,439 Speaker 11: touchdowns Dolphins quarterback two a time that we all had 187 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 11: three interceptions. One was returned for TD. He later left 188 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 11: with a concussion. He had two of them two years ago. 189 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 11: The Bills have now beating the Dolphins fourteen to the 190 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 11: last sixteen. The Jets have brought back center Connor McGovern. 191 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:18,719 Speaker 11: He went down last year with a knee injury. Was 192 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 11: plenty to retire, but the Jets worked him outside him 193 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 11: with the practice squad. Rafael Dal was hoping to play 194 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 11: next week's Labor Cup in Berlin. The feeling was it 195 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 11: would be the last event of his career, but Nadal 196 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:32,839 Speaker 11: has withdrawn, saying other players are more deserving. So it's 197 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 11: certainly possible that Midell's career with twenty two Grand stam titles, 198 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 11: is now over. John Stash Thatward Bloomberg Sports, Karen Y Nathan. 199 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 7: Coast to coast on Bloomberg Radio, nationwide on Sirius XM, 200 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 7: and around the world on Bloomberg dot Com and the 201 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 7: Bloomberg Business app. 202 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 8: This is Bloomberg. 203 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:57,679 Speaker 2: Daybreak, Good Morning on Nathan Hager. Boeing is grounded. As 204 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 2: of midnight Pacific time, members of the planemaker's largest union 205 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 2: on the West Coast have walked off the job for 206 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 2: their first strike in sixteen years. John Holden, as president 207 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 2: of the International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers, this. 208 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 12: Is about respect, This is about addressing the past, and 209 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 12: this is about fighting for our future. 210 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 2: And this could be a crippling move for a company 211 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 2: still reeling from the quality control issues found out its 212 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:25,599 Speaker 2: seven thirty seven max Jet just at the start of 213 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 2: the year. For the latest were joined now by Bloomberg's 214 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 2: Danny Lee. Danny good morning. This was, from what we understand, 215 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:35,559 Speaker 2: an overwhelming strike vote. Why did the rank and file 216 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 2: reject this offer? 217 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, Nathan, good morning. Well, clearly the vote was a 218 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 3: signal of just how poor the union members for this 219 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 3: deal was third three thousand of them voting, and you 220 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 3: can see the strength of the rejection and look you 221 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 3: can see how Bone responded. They were quite consideratory in 222 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 3: their tone, acknowledging that the fact that they were committed 223 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 3: to resettings relationship with the unions. And you know, you 224 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 3: just look at what the deal was put in front 225 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 3: of members. Twenty five thousand, twenty five percent rather increase 226 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 3: in salary over four years but losing annual bonuses. That 227 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:17,439 Speaker 3: was not enough and when union members wanted something more 228 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 3: like forty percent. There was a big gap there between 229 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 3: what Boeing is offering and what the union members really want. 230 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 3: And so this is a this is a first kind 231 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 3: of mini blow to new CEO Kelly ott Berg, drafted 232 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 3: in to try and sort out not just this, but 233 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 3: a wider set of problems with Boeing related to the business, 234 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:40,839 Speaker 3: it's operations, it's finances, its culture. And so it's now 235 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 3: down to him to see his true resolve, what he 236 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 3: can do and particularly how quickly he can get things 237 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 3: back on track. 238 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 2: So what can he do at this point? Where do 239 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:54,679 Speaker 2: contract talks go from here? 240 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 3: Well, we need to see both sides getting around the 241 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 3: table or a very big table. Frankly, and the union 242 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 3: overnight saying it was planning and keen to have more 243 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 3: talks as quickly as possible for Boeing. They've not given 244 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 3: an indication yet of when they will talk. I'm sure 245 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:16,839 Speaker 3: both sides will get together soon. The challenges, you know, 246 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 3: what will be put on the table first by Boning. 247 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 3: Clearly the first offer not good enough, and you know 248 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 3: the question of a salary over job security and other 249 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 3: entitlements such as healthcare, healthcare and retirement. So there's a 250 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 3: lot Boeing still has to to put together. And you know, 251 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 3: the top the clock is ticking frankly with the amount 252 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 3: of money that it risks burning through this strike, the 253 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 3: fact that it's factories now in Seattle where many of 254 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 3: its commercial jets are built, most of them, the fact 255 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 3: that it's down tools now, and the fact that they 256 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:51,959 Speaker 3: will not be able to deliver planes, build planes, deliver 257 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 3: planes to customers, and therefore they cannot bring in the 258 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 3: cash to arrest what is a wider serious issue. It's 259 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 3: cash burn and it's stress on its balance sheet. 260 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 2: So we're at the very early stages of this obviously, 261 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 2: so much more to come as we continue monitoring. What 262 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 2: is the beginning of the first strike for Boeing's largest 263 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 2: union in sixteen years. Thanks for keeping us updated on it. 264 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 2: Danny Lee of Bloomberg News with us this morning as 265 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 2: this strike is just getting underway. Now, we want to 266 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 2: turn to our exclusive conversation with the Secretary of the 267 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 2: US Department of Transportation, Pete Boodhajidge. Before Boeing's union members 268 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 2: voted to strike, he sat down with Bloomberg Salaa Mosen 269 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 2: on the Big Take DC podcast. They talked about trust 270 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 2: and air travel, the safety concerns at Boeing, and getting 271 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 2: the plane maker back on track. They began with the 272 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 2: question of whether Pete Bootajidge enjoys flying commercial given airline concerns. 273 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 13: Mostly, I think we've all had our headaches. I am 274 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 13: on an airliner, maybe not every day, but almost, and 275 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 13: like millions Americans, experience the benefits but also the huge 276 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 13: frustrations that go with air travel. We've worked hard to 277 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 13: establish America's safety record that has made air travel the 278 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 13: safest way to get around. We work hard to keep 279 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 13: it that way and press the airlines to do their part. 280 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 13: And then there's the customer service side, where it's clear 281 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 13: that airlines need to do a better job of taking 282 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 13: care of passengers, and we have not just pressed them 283 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 13: and encouraged them to improve their performance, but introduced new 284 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 13: passenger rights that have created protections that didn't exist just 285 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 13: a few years ago and that we think are much 286 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 13: needed and overdue. 287 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 14: What is the Transportation Department under Secretary ped Buddha Judge 288 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 14: doing to make holiday travel a little less frustrating this year. 289 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 13: Well, the first thing we've done is press the airlines 290 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 13: to improve their performance. It's one of the reasons why 291 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 13: last year saw the lowest rate of flight cancelations in 292 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 13: about a decade, and we're working to make sure that, 293 00:15:55,520 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 13: through things like realistic scheduling and adequate staffing, build on 294 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 13: improving that record. The other thing that's important is that 295 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 13: they take care of passengers when there is a delay 296 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 13: or an issue. One of the things we've done is 297 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 13: introduce a new toolflight rights dot gov that's got airline 298 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 13: by airline information about what you can expect your airline 299 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 13: to do to take care of you when you have 300 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 13: a problem, and those are customer service promises that we 301 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 13: enforce and hold them accountable for meeting. We've also taken 302 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 13: action to increase the benefits that go back to a 303 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 13: customer when there's an issue. For example, automatic refunds when 304 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 13: your flight is canceled, something that has been a real 305 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 13: headache and led to us imposing hefty penalties on airlines 306 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 13: that weren't following through. We're trying to take the drama 307 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 13: out of that by saying that you don't even have 308 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 13: to ask to get a refund. And lastly, a lot 309 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 13: of enforcements. We have issued the toughest enforcement actions in 310 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 13: the history of the department in cases like that of 311 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 13: Southwest Airlines that melted down almost two inters ago now 312 00:16:56,800 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 13: and left so many passengers strandedstigating what happened with Delta 313 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 13: over the summer right now. 314 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 14: So this holiday season November and December, can consumers expect 315 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 14: that some of these things are already in play. We 316 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 14: can expect that we can sit with our family members, 317 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:14,120 Speaker 14: as Joe Biden promised. We can expect that we can 318 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 14: get refunds. The way you're describing. 319 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 13: As a passenger today, you have protections that you did 320 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 13: not have a year ago, or two years ago or more, 321 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 13: and we're going to continue building on those. So yes, 322 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 13: if you're heading to see family for the holidays, for example, 323 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 13: those automatic refund protections are the law of the land now. 324 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 13: And if you don't get treated that way, let us know, 325 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 13: because we'll follow up with enforcement. We have seen more 326 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 13: airlines comply with what we've been asking them to do 327 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:46,919 Speaker 13: with regard to family seating and for passengers who are 328 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 13: wheelchair users. Now we've been acting to make sure that 329 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 13: they have a better experience because some of the stories 330 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 13: we've heard about what they have faced traveling on airlines 331 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 13: are just completely unacceptable, and we're developing rules that would 332 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 13: change the experience and empower those passengers significantly. 333 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 14: You're talking about enforcement and penalties is one aspect there 334 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 14: are you thinking millions of dollars? How high a penalty 335 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 14: are you willing to levy on these airlines? 336 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 13: Well, the case of Southwest, it was a one hundred 337 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 13: and forty million dollar enforcement action, which was more than 338 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:23,679 Speaker 13: we had seen in a decade or more put together 339 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 13: before that, partly because we thought it was very important 340 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 13: to send a message to airlines. What we saw was 341 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 13: at some of the past levels of penalties a million 342 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 13: here to a million, there really wasn't enough to change behavior. 343 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 13: And we're going to continue to be ready to do that. 344 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 13: And now, one thing I want to mention ish we 345 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 13: talked about one hundred and forty million. That's not all 346 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:45,439 Speaker 13: cash going back to the treasury. We did impose a 347 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 13: cash fine of about thirty five million dollars, but part 348 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 13: of what we did in the enforcement orders have the 349 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 13: majority of those dollars actually go back to passengers in 350 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 13: the form of vouchers, compensation, and other things that went 351 00:18:57,480 --> 00:18:59,239 Speaker 13: back to the consumer, because the whole point of this, 352 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 13: of course, to make sure consumers are better taken care of. 353 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 14: I want to talk about Boeing. What have you been 354 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 14: able to do to get that company back on track? 355 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:10,640 Speaker 13: Well, if A took an unprecedented measure in restricting Boeing's 356 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 13: ability to produce aircraft at a higher rate until they 357 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:18,199 Speaker 13: demonstrated the safety of their production and the quality of 358 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:22,400 Speaker 13: their production process. Aviation in America by far the safest 359 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 13: way to travel and has made the last decade or 360 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 13: two the safest period in the history of aviation. That 361 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,479 Speaker 13: means that when there is a near miss or an 362 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 13: incident something like the plug door blowing out in January 363 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 13: and Alaska, we treat that as seriously as the FA 364 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:40,880 Speaker 13: used to treat the most recent fatal crash. I think 365 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 13: that's part of why they've been able to say that 366 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 13: there has not been a fatal airliner crash in years, 367 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 13: and again, it takes a lot of work to keep 368 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 13: it that way. Boeing was put on notice that they 369 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 13: were under a microscope. They've provided an updated plan and 370 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,119 Speaker 13: now we are watching to see how they're doing and 371 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 13: meeting the terms of that plan. They also have new leadership, 372 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 13: and I've conveyed to Bone and the importance of them 373 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 13: prioritizing a culture of quality and safety so that they 374 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:10,159 Speaker 13: can meet the FA's expectations and really the expectations of 375 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:10,959 Speaker 13: the American public. 376 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 14: There's another place where trust and air travel is really 377 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:17,120 Speaker 14: low right now. Since we're talking about trust, I'm talking 378 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 14: about pricing and rewards transparency, So what it actually costs 379 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,479 Speaker 14: to take the trip that you've planned, and the value 380 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 14: of the loyalty points that you've signed up to get. 381 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:27,919 Speaker 14: One example that you guys have been working on at 382 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 14: the department is a lot of work on junk fees. 383 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 14: Share a little bit about what you're doing on that front. 384 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 14: With consumer productions. 385 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 13: We're making sure that you get refunded if you don't 386 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 13: get what you paid for on your fees, same as 387 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 13: we do on your ticket. So you paid for Wi fi, 388 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 13: the Wi Fi doesn't work, get your money back. Same 389 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 13: with baggage. We have another rule about transparency, and this 390 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 13: is really about making sure that you can tell when 391 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:52,959 Speaker 13: you're comparison shopping for an airfare, the all in cost 392 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 13: of the ticket that you're buying, including those ancillary fees 393 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 13: or bags or picking a seat or something like that. 394 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:01,919 Speaker 13: I thought that being Tan's parent about fees was a 395 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:05,679 Speaker 13: relatively low bar to require the airlines to meet. 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