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Speaker 2: It starts now, way, do we still have the Animal

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Speaker 3: Because I got a question for you.

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Speaker 2: Do we do we have that one team Animal Thunderdome

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Speaker 2: just taking a quick moment here on a Friday. If

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Speaker 4: Go for it, ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 1: I'm just glad I was there, boys and girls.

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Speaker 3: I thought he thought I was like this ginormous piece

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Speaker 3: of chicken dion times here. This is Animal Thunderdome. LD

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Speaker 3: do all right, So Claire, we mentioned this yesterday.

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Speaker 2: This Florida man twenty three years old, he got his

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Speaker 2: arm bitten off by a ten foot alligator because he

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Speaker 2: went to relieve himself at a pot while he was

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Speaker 2: at a bar where the line was too long. He

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Speaker 2: fell in the water. He was drunk. And we actually

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Speaker 1: I lose my life, lost an arm.

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Speaker 3: It's not the end of the world.

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Speaker 2: So he's got a pretty good attitude about the situation

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Speaker 2: that he just lost an arm to an alligator. And

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Speaker 2: I put out this pole and I was wondering what

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Speaker 2: your answer would be. The worst way Now he's he's fine.

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Speaker 2: He lost I mean, he lost an arm, but he's

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Speaker 2: gonna be okay. The worst way to to if you

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Speaker 2: were gonna, if you were gonna bite it, you know

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Speaker 2: what I mean, if you're gonna, if you're at the end, Shark, crocodile, bear, lion.

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Speaker 2: I put out the pole, Which one do you go with?

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Speaker 3: All right, I'm gonna give.

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Speaker 5: You my answer, but we've got to come back, and

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Speaker 5: I've got to read you the quotes from this guy.

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Speaker 5: I know we played that one little short segment, so

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Speaker 5: just so you guys know, I know it's a Memorial

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Speaker 5: Day weekend. A lot of you are gonna be out

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Speaker 5: at the beach, maybe a lot of you traveling around

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Speaker 5: in Florida. This guy lost his arm because he said

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Speaker 5: it was too crowded by the bathroom line, so he

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Speaker 5: went and decided to pee by a lake. And when

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Speaker 5: I play, when I read some of these quotes for you,

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Speaker 5: when you come back, you're gonna be like, this is

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Speaker 5: not this I'm reading from the New York Post.

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Speaker 3: These quotes are unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: Don't give us the answer yet, but I want to

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Speaker 2: think about this one worst way to go shark, crocodile bear, lieon,

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Speaker 2: Clay will tell us and we have pole results.

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Speaker 1: Sunday hang with Clay and Buck.

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Speaker 5: Buck and I were texting this story back and forth

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Speaker 5: because it was just so crazy. This guy, this Florida guy.

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Speaker 5: I want everybody to be careful out there, especially if

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Speaker 5: you're going down to Florida for the holidays. Here this guy,

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Speaker 5: Jordan Rivera, said the line was too long at the bathroom,

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Speaker 5: so he decided to go down by the lake to

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Speaker 5: go pee. And here's his quotes. These are real quotes.

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Speaker 5: I just a little lake, so I was trying to

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Speaker 5: go over there and take a little pee. Say, he

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Speaker 3: This is a quote.

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Speaker 5: Something happened where I either tripped or the ground below

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Speaker 5: me kind of just went down, and I ended up

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Speaker 5: in the water. And that's literally the last thing I remember. Okay, Buck,

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Speaker 5: I don't know about you, but I'm gonna bet that

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Speaker 5: this guy was pretty drunk. Because when you say something

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Speaker 5: happened where I either tripped or the ground below me

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Speaker 5: kind of went down and I ended up in the water,

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Speaker 5: it's bad enough to end up in the water. He

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Speaker 3: Here's a quote.

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Speaker 5: I looked over and I saw my arm the way

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Speaker 5: it was, and I was like, whoa. It was the

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Speaker 5: craziest thing. It was almost like out of a movie.

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Speaker 5: And then we had the quote where he says I

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Speaker 5: He said he wanted this is the other thing. He said,

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Speaker 5: dispel that rumor. They don't even serve food at the bar.

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Speaker 5: Couldn't have even served the gator food. It's completely not true.

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Speaker 5: And he said again, these guys saved his life. Another

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Speaker 5: amazing quote. The first thing I would do is shake

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Speaker 5: the man's hand, said Rivera, perhaps forgetting that he lost

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Speaker 5: the arm. Said it feels like it's kind of there. Anyway,

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Speaker 5: him to stop the bleeding, to try, yeah, to try

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Speaker 5: of all the things that could happen when you leave

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Speaker 5: and go outside, Buck full disclosure. Have you ever left

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Speaker 3: The fifth on this mat, I will just will, I

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Speaker 5: I one hundred percent have seen long lines in the

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Speaker 3: This guy was just gonna go pee in the pee

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Speaker 3: in the lake, he says.

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Speaker 5: Next thing you know, he's attacked by an alligator and

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Speaker 2: So I gave you the options if you're meeting your

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Speaker 3: And I have data to back this up.

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Speaker 5: I think I think it's crocodile, and I'll tell you

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Speaker 5: why my worst I think crocodile would be the worst.

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Speaker 5: I know, alligator, crocodile, this is an allex but you

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Speaker 5: know this is a large reptile that eats you. I'll

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Speaker 5: tell you my theory on why it's the worst. Two

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Speaker 5: analysis points. One in the water. I think not only

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Speaker 5: would you be likely to be attacked by an alligator

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Speaker 5: or crocodile, you would know that you were being eaten,

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Speaker 5: ripped to pieces. But I also think the likelihood is

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Speaker 3: Awful way to go. They do the death role, that's right.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so I think you combine getting killed by a

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Speaker 5: live animal and also drowning, which sounds like the worst

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Speaker 5: possible way to go other than like getting burned to

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Speaker 3: Tell you it was.

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Speaker 2: It was shocking to see there are this little pole,

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Speaker 2: little Friday pole. There are thousands of people that weighed

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Speaker 2: in four thousand plus votes. Crocodile came in with the

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Speaker 2: worst way to think in the animal kingdom at least

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Speaker 2: of these options. I wanted to throw hippopotamus on there

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Speaker 2: think of them as cute even though they're actually quite dangerous.

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Speaker 2: But it was fascinating to read the analysis that people

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Speaker 2: came up with Clay. In the comments, people went deep

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Speaker 2: but everyone was like, lion, No big deal. Lions are

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Speaker 2: apparently they're just like, ah, they grab you by the

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Speaker 2: would end you quickly. Yeah, they say end quickly. Shark,

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Speaker 2: you're talking massive blood lost trauma. That probably also pretty

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Speaker 2: which you also have with the crocodile very scary. Some

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Speaker 2: The bear one was actually way worse than I thought

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Speaker 2: it would because apparently bears they kind of maul slowly.

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Speaker 2: So anyway, people went very deep into the comments here.

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Speaker 2: Crocodile was the winner of the worst A bad way

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Speaker 5: What do you think happened to this guy? Do you

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Speaker 5: think he was just My theory would be he was

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Speaker 5: because I don't believe the alligator was there like coming

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Speaker 5: out at the water's edge was where alligators their ambush hunters.

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Speaker 2: It's where they do it. And and then you know

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Speaker 2: it was, you know, it just went for it. I

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Speaker 5: Mean that is I mean again when he says, like

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Speaker 2: I asked, carry this question really, and as a as

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Speaker 2: So the the the habitat of the American alligator goes

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Speaker 2: up into it's obviously Florida's like you know, Grand Central

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Speaker 3: It's a great point.

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Speaker 5: And also Florida people can get pretty cocky because you know,

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Speaker 5: a good point because there are places like Memphis, for instance,

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Speaker 2: Say, I just checked folks in Tennessee. You're you think

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Speaker 2: you're all safe in Tennessee and Clay's home state. There

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Speaker 2: are alligators in Tennessee, but not many. There are now

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Speaker 2: It definitely seems unfair that you would, you know, go

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Speaker 3: From alligator.

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Speaker 2: But you know, I mean there was a there was one.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's total, like, the odds of this are

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Speaker 2: one in a million. You know, there was a great white,

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Speaker 2: So there's sometimes things, crazy things happen.

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Speaker 5: There's a great shark attack book about I think it

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Speaker 5: was like in the nineteen twenties, and it's part of

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Speaker 5: what inspired Jaws.

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Speaker 2: A great Matawan Creek I know. Oh dude, I could see.

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Speaker 2: We can talking with Montawan Creek all the time. Three

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Speaker 2: bull shark nineteen eleven.

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Speaker 3: Maybe you think it was.

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Speaker 5: This is like way off the coast, right, somebody seven

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Speaker 2: Nineteen sixteen off in the Jersey shore, there was a

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Speaker 2: brackish creek connecting to the ocean. It was nineteen sixteen.

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Speaker 3: Look, I'm just gonna put this out there. This is

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Speaker 5: This was a great white, they think all along, they

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Speaker 2: I'd always had I had read in other shark attack books.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I think everybody out there, if you like

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Speaker 3: It's a fabulous book.

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Speaker 5: Now, if you're gonna it's it's not necessarily the one

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Speaker 5: I bet a lot of other people have read this

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Speaker 5: It's all about the history of sharks and swimming and

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Speaker 6: Hey, my friends love your show.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate that.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'll give you a brief. I just heard. I've

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Speaker 6: there were two fishermen out in the lake, hurt him screaming.

437
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Speaker 6: By the time they got to him, of course he

438
00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,560
Speaker 6: was a demoratic shot. But they got him to the shore.

439
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Speaker 6: They took him to a little hospital in Andalujah, Alabama,

440
00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,320
Speaker 6: which one of my buddies that I trained with was

441
00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:34,160
Speaker 6: running the Merchy room that day. They saw him kind

442
00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,159
Speaker 6: of sewed off the ard of the braking ardery and

443
00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:39,000
Speaker 6: brake theal vein all that and the shoulder tied all

444
00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,080
Speaker 6: that off. Dress That didn't send him to us in

445
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Speaker 6: Mobile at the University of South Alabama. So I was running

446
00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:47,040
Speaker 6: the Merchy room that day. He comes in and basically

447
00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,960
Speaker 6: we were suscitating him, got him well. The general the

448
00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:53,119
Speaker 6: authomedic surgeons took him and over a period of days

449
00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:57,159
Speaker 6: cleaned his arm up, finally closed the wound, and he

450
00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,159
Speaker 6: finally was discharged. They went back in that lake and

451
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,080
Speaker 6: started looking for the alligator, and they found it, and

452
00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,680
Speaker 6: they gutted the alligator and found that guy's arm in there.

453
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Speaker 6: But the cool thing that years later, when I was

454
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Speaker 6: already in practice as a heart surgeon here in Birmingham,

455
00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,439
Speaker 6: but I have been for thirty four years, I was

456
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Speaker 6: going through the grocery store and I don't know if

457
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Speaker 6: y'all ever heard of Guidepost magazine. I don't know if

458
00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:22,119
Speaker 6: you've ever y'all ever kept up with that, but it

459
00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:26,560
Speaker 6: was like a little Christian magazine and I just happened

460
00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,440
Speaker 6: to call the caption on it that said eat arm

461
00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:31,800
Speaker 6: eaten by an alligator. And that was that guy from

462
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Speaker 6: back in the nineteen eighty seven, and I tracked him

463
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Speaker 6: down by phone. He still lives in Andalujah, Alabama. So

464
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Speaker 6: that's just a quick story something that made you know.

465
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Speaker 6: I just thought it was interesting when I heard y'all.

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Speaker 5: Have you ever seen that before? I mean, I don't

467
00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:49,960
Speaker 5: imagine that down a mobile. Y'all get too many, ye

468
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Speaker 5: Alabama's not a thing you think.

469
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Speaker 6: Well, we got a bunch of snakes. I took care

470
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Speaker 6: of one of the worst Rattle state bites, and I

471
00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,480
Speaker 6: gave one guy, a logger who was a lumberjack. He

472
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:06,560
Speaker 6: got bit by seven foot long Eastern common back and

473
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,440
Speaker 6: he came in and shock and him. You know what

474
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,119
Speaker 6: that venom does is make you every license your blood

475
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,119
Speaker 6: cells and you your pea blood. Your blood doesn't clot.

476
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 6: We gave him one hundred and nineteen amps and any

477
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:21,399
Speaker 6: venom before he thought he would have died. And you know,

478
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,240
Speaker 6: we took care of a lot of snake bites, some

479
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,200
Speaker 6: sharp bites, a lot of burns, but nothing like that.

480
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Speaker 6: I mean nothing where And I to this day, I've

481
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:31,639
Speaker 6: still got a pick. I used to carry a camera

482
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Speaker 6: on my locker back in the day. Of course, I

483
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,119
Speaker 6: was a polaroid, and I took pictures of all the

484
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,720
Speaker 6: stuff I saw when not you know, through all the

485
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:40,920
Speaker 6: trauma we took care of him back in those days.

486
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Speaker 6: I've still got a picture of that guy land on

487
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Speaker 6: the stretcher with his arm off right there at the shoulder.

488
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Speaker 6: But he lucky to be a very fortunate guy.

489
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Speaker 2: A huge concern. I know that people always talk about

490
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Speaker 2: it if you get yeah, but.

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Speaker 6: You know that they took even the first thing that

492
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Speaker 6: did that just we you know, we made sure the

493
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Speaker 6: bleeding was stopped, and then I would pick surgeons for

494
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:02,920
Speaker 6: three days, took him in the operating room every day,

495
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,640
Speaker 6: washed him out, irrigated the wounds, and then finally once

496
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 6: it was clean, pretty clean, they just mobilized the skin

497
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:12,879
Speaker 6: and closed it like a stump like you do, and

498
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 6: an amputation on the leg. And he finally went home.

499
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 6: And like I say, the guy moved back to and

500
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Speaker 6: I just happened to see his name on a Guidepost

501
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 6: magazine and I tracked him down and he's still lived

502
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 6: and we talked and he remembered vaguely about the merger

503
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Speaker 6: room experience.

504
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Speaker 3: Is the dog okay? By the way, producer Ali is

505
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Speaker 3: asking what.

506
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Speaker 6: The dog did not get injured. The dog was barking

507
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 6: and that's the only reason that those guys that were

508
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 6: fishing in the lake hurting because the dog was barking.

509
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 6: Of course, when they got over there, all they saw

510
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 6: was just blood in the water and blood on the shore.

511
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Speaker 6: Then they saw him, but he was in shock. You know,

512
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:50,160
Speaker 6: his blood pressure was about.

513
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Speaker 2: Well, doctor John, I'm sure, I'm sure he appreciates that

514
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 2: you helped get him patched up and save his life.

515
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Speaker 2: Doctor John from Alabamah, thank you. I gotta take of

516
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Speaker 2: a story of a story scariest. But this is what

517
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Speaker 2: I mean. You're in Alabama. If I were in Alabama,

518
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 2: so hey, if you want to go, you wanna go

519
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 2: splash around the pond, I'd splash.

520
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:09,160
Speaker 3: Around the pond. No, well not anymore. Well Andalusia.

521
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Speaker 5: I mean, I'm not kidding Buck, And I bet there

522
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,119
Speaker 5: are people who have made this drive. If you have

523
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 5: ever gone down from you know, the Midwest, Nashville, Birmingham, Indianapolis,

524
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 5: if you're driving down to the Gulf Coast, there's a

525
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:28,440
Speaker 5: good chance you've gone through Andalusia. It is the speeding

526
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Speaker 5: ticket trap of anywhere.

527
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Speaker 2: Now when you say that, does that mean that even

528
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:36,119
Speaker 2: if you're only to me, if if you get pulled

529
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Speaker 2: over and you're going, you know, within ten miles an

530
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:41,920
Speaker 2: hour of the limit, like that's that's a little too tight.

531
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Speaker 5: Well, And it's one of those places, buck where. And

532
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Speaker 5: I know you guys out there know this. Some of

533
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,879
Speaker 5: you are probably like looking down at at your speedometer

534
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,159
Speaker 5: right now because you're like, oh, Clea's mentioned it.

535
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Speaker 2: They will change the speed limit by multiple times, you know,

536
00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:57,919
Speaker 2: but like it'll go.

537
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Speaker 5: You're rowing along fifty five, you know, it's a back

538
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 5: road to Andalusia. Suddenly it's thirty five right like and

539
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 5: out of nowhere, and you really haven't changed anything, and

540
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 5: the cops are just sitting right there, just waiting to

541
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:12,679
Speaker 5: pull you over. And I'm joking about it, but I

542
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 5: got hit in Andalusia. I mean, I'm not kidding. I

543
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 5: think I built their elementary school. It was like every

544
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 5: year I'd drive down to the destined you know, Panama

545
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 5: City Beach thirty a area, Florida Gulf Coast, and you

546
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,119
Speaker 5: get down to what they call La Lower Alabama, and

547
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,439
Speaker 5: I bet we got people who've listened down there, and

548
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,880
Speaker 5: so this is southern Alabama where you're getting into Andalujah, Buck.

549
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,159
Speaker 5: But I'm not gonna lie. I wouldn't think, you know,

550
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 5: the guy just hops in the lake. I'm sure he

551
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:42,399
Speaker 5: didn't think that he was going to suddenly get attacked

552
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 5: by an alligator, you know, just out for a jog.

553
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 5: You know, I thought when the doc was telling us

554
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 5: the story there, sometimes these alligators will come running out

555
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,919
Speaker 5: and grabbed dogs like we saw that video. Unfortunately, had

556
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 5: that senior citizen that woman who was out walking like

557
00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 5: I think a cocker spaniel, a poodle whatever, and the

558
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,879
Speaker 5: alligator came and grabbed the poodle and then they end

559
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 5: up grabbing the person to associated with that. But man,

560
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 5: that that area, that area of Alabama is the all

561
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 5: time speed speed capital. Nice people, but many they will

562
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:17,920
Speaker 5: they maybe you have.

563
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,160
Speaker 2: Not done a lot for the Tourism Bureau of Andalusia today,

564
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 2: if I may say so, speeding tickets an alligator attacks, sir,

565
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 2: I used to get

566
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Speaker 5: Speeding tickets everywhere and uh and I really got popped

567
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 5: a lot down on the drive to destined