Speaker 1: Oh, our special guest has joined us four time Grammy
Speaker 1: Award winning artists, author, actor, activist. His tenth studio album, Reconstruction,
Speaker 1: just released. The album features t I Killer, Mike John Bellen,
Speaker 1: and Friday Here he Is, Look Cray, How.
Speaker 2: You doing, bro?
Speaker 3: What's going on with y'all?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 3: How y'all doing?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 1: I'm doing good. I'm doing good. So help me understand this.
Speaker 1: You blended faith with hip hop? I mean, I mean,
Speaker 1: growing up. I'm sure you with this. You probably came
Speaker 1: up in the church, but you also listened to raps.
Speaker 1: So how did you come up with the comminat like?
Speaker 1: You know what?
Speaker 2: I was blended too, I mean honest with you, I
Speaker 2: didn't grow up in church. You did what?
Speaker 5: Nah?
Speaker 2: I didn't grow up in church.
Speaker 5: Like I like this?
Speaker 2: So how so how do how did we get this? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I grew up.
Speaker 6: I grew up you know, just loving rap. I grew
Speaker 6: up love and rap. I really wasn't. I would look
Speaker 6: at church kids. I thought that was lame. I thought
Speaker 6: it was corny. I didn't grow up in church. I
Speaker 6: was a free thinker. My mama was a you know,
Speaker 6: she was fed by the black panthers. She just was like, hey,
Speaker 6: don't get caught up in all that religion. And you
Speaker 6: know they got too many rules. You can't wear pants,
Speaker 6: he can't wear lipsticks.
Speaker 3: So for me, I just didn't.
Speaker 2: We didn't go to church for real.
Speaker 6: So I got to explore on my own and just
Speaker 6: kind of like see what was real. I tried all
Speaker 6: kinds of stuff, and.
Speaker 3: You know, I love hip hop. I love rap music.
Speaker 2: That was my thing.
Speaker 3: And so when I.
Speaker 6: Did meet the Lord, I had a spiritual transformation, you know,
Speaker 6: like as a grown man.
Speaker 2: Yes, it was already there.
Speaker 6: It was like, all right, how I'm a how do
Speaker 6: I combine what I already know in this new revelation?
Speaker 2: You did what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So, yes, that's kind of.
Speaker 2: What it was for me. Yeah, so I relate.
Speaker 3: I relate to people who you know are on the fringes.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: The church is the greenhouse. I like the jungle.
Speaker 2: I like that.
Speaker 3: Listen with you being a fan of hip hop, what
Speaker 3: do you think about where the current state of hip
Speaker 3: hop is right now? Truthfully?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean so hip hop if I consider myself
Speaker 6: a part of hip hop, if I'm healthy, it's healthy.
Speaker 2: But this is what I say.
Speaker 3: You got a lot of youngins out there who.
Speaker 6: Don't know about what it used to be, so they're
Speaker 6: not learning from the past in order to make the
Speaker 6: present better.
Speaker 2: You did what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: So a lot of it is disposable music, a lot
Speaker 6: of it is just hot takes and just a lot
Speaker 6: of stuff. So, you know, I like when you can
Speaker 6: mix the two. I like when you can take the
Speaker 6: old and mix it with the new and then you
Speaker 6: got some good. So there's some stuff that's out there
Speaker 6: that I did that I like, and then there's some
Speaker 6: stuff that I'm like, Man, y'all ain't gonna.
Speaker 2: Here in two years, you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 2: y'all gonna be gone.
Speaker 1: So when you when you're growing up and you're talking
Speaker 1: about you listening to rap, So who are some of
Speaker 1: your whore some of the the influences.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I listen to everything.
Speaker 6: So, like you gotta understand, I'm I grew up single parent, household.
Speaker 6: You know, no role model. Daddy ran with the Compton Crips, uncles,
Speaker 6: gang members.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 6: I don't have no healthy male influences. So to me,
Speaker 6: rappers were like my mom and dad. So I grew
Speaker 6: up listening to everything. I listened to I mean, you
Speaker 6: name it. I listened to it, old school news school.
Speaker 6: I would go back to before I was born. I
Speaker 6: would listen to Houdini, easy E. Then I go to
Speaker 6: Tupac and then I go to Lil Wayne, then I
Speaker 6: go to DMX.
Speaker 2: And jay Z like everything.
Speaker 3: I listened to it all.
Speaker 1: So do you feel like that Christian hip hop has
Speaker 1: it broken into mainstream or is there still more work
Speaker 1: for you to and others to do.
Speaker 6: I think it's breaking down because people are tired of
Speaker 6: the same old, same old music wise, and so I
Speaker 6: came in. I come kicking the door in, you know
Speaker 6: what I mean. So when I first got started, everybody
Speaker 6: looked at me like I was crazy. They look at
Speaker 6: me like an alien. I would come to interviews and
Speaker 6: they would touch me and they'd be like, so where
Speaker 6: your choir all back?
Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Where your choire all back?
Speaker 2: And what is this? And what you know? What do
Speaker 2: you rap about? Jesus is gone?
Speaker 6: And bro like come on, man, get all get out
Speaker 6: of here. So you know, once I had to, you know,
Speaker 6: I did the the you know, the BT cipher. And
Speaker 6: when I did that, they didn't even know what category
Speaker 6: to put me. In, so they put me with the
Speaker 6: international people. So then I when I get on there
Speaker 6: and I start cutting up, then they're like, man, dude
Speaker 6: is raw?
Speaker 2: Like you know.
Speaker 6: Then hip hop start paying attention and they, you know,
Speaker 6: so now I'm you know the rapper. Rappers are like man,
Speaker 6: I like buddy, you know the game and Royster five
Speaker 6: nine and you know, I Beyonce even it was like man,
Speaker 6: she sawm a video like man, you know. So then
Speaker 6: people was like, Okay, he nice. And now I think
Speaker 6: because I had to take all them lashes, this younger
Speaker 6: group of dudes behind me, it's easy for them. They
Speaker 6: just they just gotta be dope and they got to
Speaker 6: know how to you know, don't know, aboy, I don't.
Speaker 6: I don't. Don't nobody want you to come in condemning people.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying like, we may not condone,
Speaker 6: but we do not condemn.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're listening, but we don't judge. You did.
Speaker 6: What I'm saying, like, listen, that's you and God gotta
Speaker 6: have some conversations. I can't even tell you my journey,
Speaker 6: my story, tell you what the Lord had told me.
Speaker 6: You know, if if it hits you, it hits you,
Speaker 6: if it don't it don't you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 6: that's how I move it?
Speaker 3: Was it difficult for you, especially when you think about
Speaker 3: hip hop now and the sound hip hop is completely
Speaker 3: different as opposed to how it was ten years ago,
Speaker 3: But it comes to you and making your music and
Speaker 3: your found Were you ever what's the word I'm looking for?
Speaker 3: We ever? Was there any any discomfort in wanting to
Speaker 3: stay true to your normal sound and in what you
Speaker 3: do being there? Today's era music sounds completely different than
Speaker 3: what it used to be.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think I'm a bridge, you know, like I'm a.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm in the middle.
Speaker 6: Like I'm little bro to the old school, but I'm
Speaker 6: big bro to the new school. I'm in the middle
Speaker 6: of two generations. Like Ja Cole say, you know what
Speaker 6: I mean that Kendrick Drake Cole like space And so
Speaker 6: for me, it's like I learned from them, but I
Speaker 6: learned from But I learned from them and I live
Speaker 6: with them too. So I just feel like I'm comfortable
Speaker 6: in both worlds, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I'm comfortable.
Speaker 6: I'm like, Yeah, I'm like Travis Hunter on the field.
Speaker 6: You did what I'm saying offense defense. I'm yeah, that's
Speaker 6: what's up.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, I'm fitting both spaces like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let me ask you this. I think I'm very
Speaker 1: interested in this. What do you think the biggest misconception
Speaker 1: is that people still have about you the man versus
Speaker 1: you the Christian.
Speaker 2: You come on you.
Speaker 3: I know you grew up in church, so I already know.
Speaker 3: I was a junior deacon, I singing a junior.
Speaker 6: Chow Lord God, that makes so much sense. That's why
Speaker 6: you That's why you were mess now because that's makes
Speaker 6: perfect says the ones who grow up in it, be like, yeah, man,
Speaker 6: I'm I'm out here.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. Uh No for me, you know.
Speaker 6: You gotta think like like for a lot of folks
Speaker 6: who grew up in church, I don't have the same baggage.
Speaker 6: I don't have the same trauma. I don't I don't
Speaker 6: have like seeing like like the you know, people doing
Speaker 6: one thing on Sunday another thing on Monday. Like I
Speaker 6: don't grew up seeing all of that stuff. So I
Speaker 6: don't have the trauma. I don't have the baggage that
Speaker 6: a lot of people have grown up Now, I got
Speaker 6: different stuff from being a rapper in the church having
Speaker 6: some issues with me. I got different stuff for being
Speaker 6: a black man and like standing up for the rights
Speaker 6: of black people in church, having some issues with that.
Speaker 6: But I don't have a lot of that church trauma.
Speaker 6: My mama got a lot of that, but I just
Speaker 6: don't have it. So for me, the misconceptions people come
Speaker 6: in expecting me to know the hymns and I don't
Speaker 6: know the hymns. I didn't grow up this inst I
Speaker 6: only liked like Kirk Franklin and uh Fred Hammond. I
Speaker 6: only got a couple that I really grew up that
Speaker 6: I know. So the misconceptions don't like I'm like, Bro,
Speaker 6: I'm not what you think I am.
Speaker 2: I'm probably more like you than you know. You know
Speaker 2: what I mean.
Speaker 1: So, so you didn't grow up with James Cleveland and
Speaker 1: Shorty sees it at the Mississippi Math Choir, Alabama.
Speaker 3: Boys, Mighty Clouds and Joy Cloudy.
Speaker 2: Bro. When I tell you, bro, I'll be with my wife.
Speaker 6: My wife grew up in church and she be like,
Speaker 6: that's uh James Cleveland. I'm like, I don't know who
Speaker 6: he's talking about. I had today asked me to do
Speaker 6: this tour. McDonald's Gospel Tour. I'm on a tour and
Speaker 6: I'm like, They're like, man, you up there with the legends.
Speaker 6: I'm like, I don't know none of these people. I
Speaker 6: never heard of none of their music. I ain't gonna
Speaker 6: lie to you.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I'm marry Mary, you know.
Speaker 6: So every night I'm getting on stage and all the
Speaker 6: church moms just got their arms folded up looking at me,
Speaker 6: like what you doing here?
Speaker 3: And then I just get to tell him.
Speaker 6: I say, Hey, you may not like what I do,
Speaker 6: but you got a son in jail. You got a
Speaker 6: grandson who you know what I'm saying, who needs something
Speaker 6: different to listen to?
Speaker 2: I speak they language you did.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: It's like when David tried to put that armor on,
Speaker 6: it didn't fit. He's like, this don't fit me. You know,
Speaker 6: give me a sling and some stones. I'm gonna get
Speaker 6: the jibt and that's me. I'm like, just give me
Speaker 6: the sling in the stone that that that the choir
Speaker 6: rod don't fit me.
Speaker 3: I like that, you know what I'm saying. So where
Speaker 3: you grew up at where you from originally so so.
Speaker 6: Originally I'm Houston, Texas, and then over the years, I
Speaker 6: moved to the West Coast.
Speaker 2: And now I'm in Atlanta. So you know, I got
Speaker 2: that little hybrid of South and.
Speaker 1: Okay, well you you pretty much stayed in I mean,
Speaker 1: you pretty much stayed in the Bible Belt because you know,
Speaker 1: the South, that's the Bible.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, for sure. For show. When I left to
Speaker 2: the West Coast, that's when I was a little freer,
Speaker 2: you know. But I get it. I got a lot
Speaker 2: of homeboys who grew up.
Speaker 6: In church, and I'd be like in my mind, I'm like,
Speaker 6: you know, why do you what are you doing?
Speaker 2: Is you in or you out?
Speaker 6: Like when I'm smoking, I'm smoking. I'm not smoking and
Speaker 6: going to Sunday school like this. I just didn't understand it,
Speaker 6: Like it was a weird concept for me, you know
Speaker 6: what I'm saying, Like, Yeah, it's like, man, be finish
Speaker 6: on this church trip.
Speaker 2: I'm finna get with Serena. I'm like, why are you
Speaker 2: going to church trip to get with a girl? Why
Speaker 2: should you go to the club. I don't understand, Like
Speaker 2: foreign concept to me.
Speaker 3: Hey, now I'm gonna say I really, I really enjoyed
Speaker 3: that I was able to listen to the album earlier. Today,
Speaker 3: I enjoyed the new album Reconstruction. You know, life for
Speaker 3: the part to Holidays. How long how long normally does
Speaker 3: it take you to have a vision in what your
Speaker 3: treat when it comes to making an album, and how
Speaker 3: long does it actually take?
Speaker 6: Yeah, if I'm not inspired the music gonna be, it's
Speaker 6: not gonna it's not gonna hit a nerve, right, you
Speaker 6: know what I mean.
Speaker 2: It's just I'm dolling it in.
Speaker 3: So it's gotta be inspiration and inspiration.
Speaker 6: See, I think y'all can probably relate to this, like
Speaker 6: it's the reason why people like y'all. So the reason
Speaker 6: why people connect with y'all because they feel like y'all
Speaker 6: connected to the culture.
Speaker 2: Y'all don't feel so high.
Speaker 6: And mighty, even though I know Shanna be on his
Speaker 6: private jets eating sandwiches, and you.
Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying, Like Delta, you don't feel what
Speaker 2: I'm saying.
Speaker 6: I know you be on your private jet vibe. I'm
Speaker 6: more like, Oh Joe, they mad at me because I
Speaker 6: don't spend enough money. You know what I'm saying, That's
Speaker 6: that's my vibe.
Speaker 2: My boy was mad at me today.
Speaker 6: He said, come on, man, just just you know, spend
Speaker 6: another fifty six dollars in upgrade the vehicle. When you
Speaker 6: go to the rental car players say, I'm just going
Speaker 6: from A to B. It don't make a difference to
Speaker 6: me what I'm saying, right, But but uh, you know
Speaker 6: that I don't forgot what I was what you asked
Speaker 6: me again? Yeah, yeah, So what I was gonna say
Speaker 6: is when I'm connected to the people, I feel like
Speaker 6: I'm I can talk.
Speaker 3: About issues that are relevant.
Speaker 6: You know, if my pastor said something that was dope,
Speaker 6: he said, you know, I was going through the motions
Speaker 6: and just you know, he said, hey, man, you smell
Speaker 6: like cologne in green rooms. He said, you need to
Speaker 6: get some some some sheep stuff on your feet. Man,
Speaker 6: you don't you need to smell like it's like the sheep.
Speaker 6: And what he was saying was you need to be
Speaker 6: connected to the people who need help and who you
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying, You in the green rooms and
Speaker 6: you on the private jets and you ain't really connected
Speaker 6: to the people. So for me, it's like, man, I
Speaker 6: got to ride the public transportation on one day, you know,
Speaker 6: I need to go to McDonald's and just pull up
Speaker 6: and I'm gonna tapt everybody up, and I'm you know
Speaker 6: what I'm saying. And then I get in the studio
Speaker 6: and I'm writing for that kid who you know is
Speaker 6: twenty eight and he's still working at McDonald's and he
Speaker 6: trying to figure out what his life gonna look like.
Speaker 6: And you did what I'm saying. So then I get
Speaker 6: in the studio, then it get real for me. Then
Speaker 6: I start coming up with some good concepts and.
Speaker 2: That's how you get that album.
Speaker 6: So it took me a little over a year and
Speaker 6: a half because I had to live some life.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: I like that. I like that.
Speaker 1: I like that you realize, in any aspect, when you
Speaker 1: become outspoken, it potentially costs you opportunities. But you're spoken
Speaker 1: openly about your faith. Do you feel that's cost you
Speaker 1: some opportunities?
Speaker 3: It did early early on, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: I mean, you know, I think people are more open
Speaker 6: to spirituality nowadays, Like even gen Z like they.
Speaker 2: Open to it. It's not like taboo like it used
Speaker 2: to be, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: So early on it was like I couldn't get a
Speaker 6: sponsorship or you know, like, oh man, I got the
Speaker 6: number one album in the country. I beat Maroon five,
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. And I can't get a
Speaker 6: Verizon deal, Like come on Verizon, like holler at me,
Speaker 6: you know what I mean. But it's like, well, we
Speaker 6: don't want to offend nobody. And I'm like, bro, you
Speaker 6: gotta be rapped out in the middle. I'm like, Bro,
Speaker 6: you got rappers who who are literally junkies rapping about
Speaker 6: being junkies and you and you giving them deals.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: I'm sitting here giving people hope and talking about relevant
Speaker 6: matters and you know me, ta, I kill him Like
Speaker 6: we got a song grieving the loved ones that we lost.
Speaker 2: I'm like, come on, man, what are we doing here?
Speaker 6: So so, yes, I caught flack for that early on,
Speaker 6: and then I just, you know, just hate because people.
Speaker 2: Was like gospel rap, Christian rap.
Speaker 3: I remember, I'll never forget Bro.
Speaker 6: I went my shout out to Bobby Jackson when he
Speaker 6: was coach of the Sacramento Kings.
Speaker 2: You know, he loved the Lord. He said, hey, man,
Speaker 2: why don't you come to a practice.
Speaker 6: I said, for sure, man, I'll be honest, you know.
Speaker 6: So I'm in the practice, you know, players shooting around.
Speaker 6: He pull all the players together. He like, hey, y'all, Uh,
Speaker 6: I had my little my boxes back when I had
Speaker 6: mixtapes when we listened to CDs.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, my box and mixtapes. And
Speaker 3: Bobby Jackson said, hey, y'all, y'all, gather around.
Speaker 2: Gather around, y'all.
Speaker 3: We got us a gospel rapper here today.
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh no, Bobby, you shouldn't have
Speaker 2: said that. You should have just said a rapper, rapper.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. You should have Ah.
Speaker 6: You know, not that I don't love the Lord, but
Speaker 6: I just knew what they brain was gonna think when
Speaker 6: they heard that. So soon as he said that, you
Speaker 6: can just see everybody be like man. And so then
Speaker 6: I got my little mixtape. I'm not trying to pass
Speaker 6: out on mixtape.
Speaker 3: It's free.
Speaker 6: And then I heard and one of the players, man,
Speaker 6: I ain't gonna say his name, but you know, Boogie
Speaker 6: took my CD and said, I don't want no God rep.
Speaker 2: You did what I'm saying. And I was like, what
Speaker 2: you know?
Speaker 6: So you know it was it was It was wild man,
Speaker 6: that's that's the type of stuff I used to have
Speaker 6: to deal with. Now it's cool, but back in the day, man,
Speaker 6: it was rough. Who do you think judged you harder?
Speaker 6: Path to the rappers?
Speaker 3: Is that a question?
Speaker 2: Yeah? But who killed Jesus? The religious people what? Because
Speaker 2: they say, they say, you playing with the Lord man?
Speaker 6: The religious people were boy, boy, yeah, they.
Speaker 2: Will crucify you. Boy. You make a case. More people
Speaker 2: than die behind religion than any other.
Speaker 3: The funny thing about it. The most religious, the most
Speaker 3: religious that condemn everything else outside of what their beliefs
Speaker 3: may be. They do the first things behind closed doors.
Speaker 6: And that's you see. So that's why I tell people.
Speaker 6: You know, I got a song on the album called
Speaker 6: Erase Me. I don't push religion, I push relationship. You
Speaker 6: did what I'm saying, because let's just let's look at
Speaker 6: it like like my wife, for instance, if.
Speaker 2: I'm religion is rules and duty.
Speaker 6: If I come home at night and I knock on
Speaker 6: the bedroom door, I say, hey, baby, it's my duty
Speaker 6: to get you these flowers.
Speaker 2: So here you go. I'm sleeping on the couch.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, Right, But if I come
Speaker 6: home and if it's about relationship.
Speaker 2: Then I say, you know, a girl, I was thinking
Speaker 2: about you all day.
Speaker 3: I love the.
Speaker 6: Relationship that we got, and I was just thinking about
Speaker 6: how awesome you are and how much I appreciate you.
Speaker 6: And I got you these flowers to show you my
Speaker 6: love for you. That's relationship, okay, And it's gonna be
Speaker 6: a good night. Yeah you say, I feel what you're
Speaker 6: putting down with me. I see what you put down.
Speaker 6: I hate you put down. I did, and so does she.
Speaker 2: Okay. And so here's the thing.
Speaker 6: All I'm saying is if you treating God like it's
Speaker 6: religion like duty, that ain't you. All you doing is
Speaker 6: following orders, And as soon as you feel like he
Speaker 6: ain't looking, you're gonna wild out. But if you got
Speaker 6: a good relationship with him, then you're gonna do stuff
Speaker 6: because you like man, I love you, Man, I just
Speaker 6: want to do what you want me to do. It
Speaker 6: ain't me following rules. So that's what I'm saying. I
Speaker 6: don't rock with the legalistic rule following religious folks. I'm
Speaker 6: with people who got such a good relationship with God,
Speaker 6: they don't want to do nothing stupid because it's like, man,
Speaker 6: I got a good relationship.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm on.
Speaker 1: How old were you when you when when the Lord
Speaker 1: spoke to you or you got that say you know what,
Speaker 1: this is my calling. I went to high school with
Speaker 1: a guy we call him preacher carry McNeill, and he's
Speaker 1: a pastor, and everybody knew as long as I can remember,
Speaker 1: he carried a Bible. I mean he had He probably
Speaker 1: was like eleven twelve years old, and he carried that
Speaker 1: Bible and we called him preacher.
Speaker 2: I don't think anybody called him his real name except
Speaker 2: the school teachers.
Speaker 1: Everybody called him preacher and short enough to this day
Speaker 1: he's a pastor.
Speaker 2: How old were you when you received the word when
Speaker 2: you received a call and said, you know what? This
Speaker 2: is what it's the paggion I'm about to be on.
Speaker 6: I think I was. I was nineteen twenty. I start
Speaker 6: getting real sick because you know, nineteen twenty I was like,
Speaker 6: all right, I met God.
Speaker 2: This is real. I want to change.
Speaker 6: But you know how it is when anybody, when they
Speaker 6: have an awakening, they be real passionate.
Speaker 3: It's like when your friend first become a vegan.
Speaker 2: He like, man, don't don't eat no meat. You don't
Speaker 2: need to eat meat. Meat is bad. You got a
Speaker 2: vegan spot over here.
Speaker 6: You know, you just on fire like it's an awakening.
Speaker 6: So I have my awakening. But then you know, real
Speaker 6: life hits you and you realize like, okay, wait a minute,
Speaker 6: this excitement is great, but I still got to live
Speaker 6: real life.
Speaker 3: And then you start having problems, and then the temptations come.
Speaker 6: Along, and then you know when you mess up, which
Speaker 6: I did because you know, the ladies was a struggle
Speaker 6: for me. You did what I'm saying. I'm twenty years old,
Speaker 6: so you did what I'm saying. So for me, I
Speaker 6: was like, well, I'm messed up so bad. I can't
Speaker 6: really go back out here. You hear what I'm saying,
Speaker 6: because I don't want to be no hypocrite. But the
Speaker 6: reality was, you know a lot of times that shame
Speaker 6: keeps us from growing. It's like a baby taking steps.
Speaker 6: Like when a baby fall you don't say you stupid baby,
Speaker 6: why you falling? You say, it's all right, get it up,
Speaker 6: keep walking. So that's what I needed to get up
Speaker 6: and keep walking in And so twenty about twenty three,
Speaker 6: I was real serious, but I wasn't like your man
Speaker 6: what's his name? That she was just talking about the preacher.
Speaker 6: Preacher man Kurt Frankly, No, you're man that you went
Speaker 6: to school with.
Speaker 2: Oh boy, carry yeah, carry carry, make me a preacher.
Speaker 2: I wasn't like him. You did what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: I was because I had models of dudes who was
Speaker 6: They still kept their sauce, but they love God. You
Speaker 6: see what I'm saying. If I'm being honest with you,
Speaker 6: I don't know your brother that well, but I feel
Speaker 6: like I was probably like your brother because when your
Speaker 6: brother got up to do his Hall of Fame speech, Man,
Speaker 6: that was that to me is the way you you.
Speaker 2: Walk your faith out. It ain't it what It didn't
Speaker 2: feel like. He was like, now, don't everybody open up
Speaker 2: to the Book of thirty two songs? You did, know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: He just was like being real is a real moment.
Speaker 6: He shared his love for his brother. He talked about
Speaker 6: what God did.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I was like, man, you
Speaker 2: got to love that, you got to respect that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you wouldn't know that if you just met him. You
Speaker 2: wouldn't know that. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I don't remember when he actually became, but he
Speaker 1: was always you know, you know we were like, oh,
Speaker 1: you'll said we we we were actually junior DC. We
Speaker 1: had to lead devotional service. We had to leave prayer.
Speaker 1: So it wasn't just and you know, we couldn't get
Speaker 1: up there and say the Happy Easterday. We had to
Speaker 1: say this long, long speech that took at least a
Speaker 1: minute minute and a half, or we had to pray,
Speaker 1: or we had to do something. So our grandfather, you know,
Speaker 1: kept us very, very involved in the church. And but
Speaker 1: like you said, I kind of went away from that
Speaker 1: because it's like when you make somebody do something all
Speaker 1: the time. So we had to go to Bible study,
Speaker 1: we had to go to choir practice, we got to
Speaker 1: go to this and we at church, you know, every
Speaker 1: every single Sunday, and we at Bible study, and we
Speaker 1: at devotional and we add all this stuff.
Speaker 2: I'm like, man, as soon as I ain't got to go,
Speaker 2: I ain't going. He kept like when I went to college,
Speaker 2: I was like, well, I ain't got no church, even
Speaker 2: though there's a church right across the street from the school.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he like went to college and found the church
Speaker 2: and still.
Speaker 1: A whole and yeah, and when and Imber I remember,
Speaker 1: I remember.
Speaker 2: One year he got me.
Speaker 1: He got me a gift, had in a head in
Speaker 1: a nice little box and everything.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, brother, to look it up. We
Speaker 2: both in the lead.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he left it at my house and at at
Speaker 1: the house in Glibery, at my grandmother's house, and literally
Speaker 1: say my sister Libery called her Liby call a buck.
Speaker 1: She says, Spanky left your your birthday grift on on.
Speaker 2: In the room. I was like, Okay, it was a Bible, and.
Speaker 3: You thought it was gonna be You thought he was
Speaker 3: gonna put you with some ice.
Speaker 1: He's to this day, as a matter of fact, I
Speaker 1: still and then when I thought about it, was like man, Bible,
Speaker 1: Denver Broncos Shannah Sharp number eighty five, got all the
Speaker 1: stuff on it. I mean, it's like it's one of
Speaker 1: my It's one of my most prized possessions because I
Speaker 1: know he gave he gave it to me, the sincerity
Speaker 1: in which he gave it to me, that's what That's
Speaker 1: what meant. The most he could have bought me anything,
Speaker 1: could have bought me a car, could have brought me
Speaker 1: a chain, but it was this like this, and uh
Speaker 1: that that Bible means. That Bible means a lot to me.
Speaker 1: And he's still he still calls ay to the day,
Speaker 1: He'll call out of the blue, and I don't know
Speaker 1: how he knows. God is giving him a special ability
Speaker 1: because when I really need it, because he.
Speaker 2: Can, man, he can, he can, he can.
Speaker 1: He can get through to me when a lot of
Speaker 1: other people can't.
Speaker 2: And he just like, get me your Bible. Bruh.
Speaker 6: He gave you what was precious to him. You know
Speaker 6: what I'm saying. He gave you what's pressure to him.
Speaker 6: And now I have I have to just take a
Speaker 6: pause for a second because you said something and it
Speaker 6: hit me.
Speaker 2: You said you said.
Speaker 3: Buck and spanky, right, yeah, yeah, it hit me.
Speaker 2: Y'all country in a.
Speaker 1: Month, we grew. We definitely grew. I grew up in Rule,
Speaker 1: South Georgia. We had about we had thirty five hundred people.
Speaker 1: We had about three hundred people, three hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: people in my high school has I think fifty eight.
Speaker 2: Fifty nine people in my graduating class.
Speaker 1: So yeah, well you bout somebody somebody black walk around.
Speaker 2: You're still calling them buck in the nineteen hundreds.
Speaker 1: Bro, I mean, you get a nickname. If you're in
Speaker 1: the South, you got a nickname. Oh, that's your name.
Speaker 1: That's your name for life.
Speaker 2: Life. Even though you're bituary, they're gonna put your real name,
Speaker 2: but they're gonna put your nickname in parenthesis. What was
Speaker 2: your nickname? I didn't have.
Speaker 1: I mean I didn't really They called it dead Nah No, No,
Speaker 1: most of the time they called me they called me Shateaux.
Speaker 1: Why because I like to find the things. When I
Speaker 1: was growing up, I was my shirt. Yeah, I get
Speaker 1: all my money on the AzID shirt. I might have
Speaker 1: thirty dollars. My brother would go get like three shirts.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get one shirt. So they started calling me Schateau.
Speaker 1: But uh, but you know what, it's funny that it's
Speaker 1: funny that you say that and your experience because everybody,
Speaker 1: how they they received God. When they received God, everybody
Speaker 1: goes through everybody goes through go through something, and with
Speaker 1: you not to have gone through anything traumatic, you said, hey,
Speaker 1: you just felt it was it was that time he
Speaker 1: had spoke to you earlier. You kind of like started
Speaker 1: to try, like you all gung ho like. Now put
Speaker 1: that aside, because I'm I'm back, I'm wilding out, So
Speaker 1: he ain't pleased with me right now.
Speaker 2: But guess what, you came right back. Yeah, it came back,
Speaker 2: had to.
Speaker 3: You know, I had my season, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Now, my childhood was crazy.
Speaker 6: You know, my Mama was great, but I just did
Speaker 6: a bunch of stupid stuff, you know, growing up, and
Speaker 6: so I had a lot of trauma I hadn't processed anyway.
Speaker 6: So for me, it was like trying to work through
Speaker 6: that and it was like some stuff it's like, yes,
Speaker 6: you need God, you need the Bible, you need prayer,
Speaker 6: but you also need therapy, my dog, you know what
Speaker 6: I'm saying, You need some extra help to process some
Speaker 6: of the stuff that I was going through. And the
Speaker 6: music was the therapy for me for a season, just
Speaker 6: like I had to get this stuff off my chest
Speaker 6: and just you know what I mean, let people, you know,
Speaker 6: let me. It helped heal. It was healing for me.
Speaker 6: So that's that's why, you know, But that was my outlet,
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. It was kind of like, uh,
Speaker 6: you know, I never I never had now the crazy part.
Speaker 6: And I'm six four, you know what I mean. My
Speaker 6: dad is six six', five my brothers six, seven and
Speaker 6: you know we didn't grow up my.
Speaker 2: Pops if we would have grew up my.
Speaker 6: POPS i feel like IF i would have had he
Speaker 6: was like a playground all. Star IF i would have had,
Speaker 6: HIM i felt like somebody would have pushed me towards
Speaker 6: my mama didn't know. Sports the coaches, like, well you
Speaker 6: should let me take.
Speaker 2: Him she's, like, NAH i don't like.
Speaker 6: THAT i feel, like you, KNOW i might have had
Speaker 6: a different, path a different. Life you may not have
Speaker 6: heard my. Music you may you know What i'm. Saying
Speaker 6: you may have seen.
Speaker 2: Me you, KNOW i didn't What god in, you bro.
Speaker 2: Exactly you didn't know What i'm saying.
Speaker 1: Exactly so he gonna put you on the road where
Speaker 1: you need to be when you need to be.
Speaker 3: There, yeah all right with. Me, Yeah i've been in
Speaker 3: the studio and you KNOW i. HAVE i have a
Speaker 3: background in gospel as.
Speaker 2: WELL i.
Speaker 3: WAS i sang in the junior. CHOIR i sing with
Speaker 3: the senior. Choir so if at any, point you know
Speaker 3: you want to work together and and, YEAH.
Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, Yeah i'm.
Speaker 3: Here let me tell YOU i know hip, hop and
Speaker 3: then we can we. Heard, yeah we can intertwine the
Speaker 3: two and we could do some we could Do god's.
Speaker 6: Work i'm A i'm gonna pray about that because you
Speaker 6: know What i'm, Saying let me pray about.
Speaker 2: That, please please pray for.
Speaker 3: It you never pray about.
Speaker 2: THAT i, COULD i.
Speaker 3: COULD i.
Speaker 6: Could now let's just start off on just you being
Speaker 6: like my financial. Advisor, okay you know What i'm. Saying
Speaker 6: that's gonna start. There, See that's that's WHY i love.
Speaker 6: You that's WHY i love you because it's about baby.
Speaker 6: Steps it's about baby before you.
Speaker 3: Walk SO i can help you in the area of
Speaker 3: being financially savvy and financially. Conscious, brother and we you on.
Speaker 6: Tour because Because god gave me the money to be
Speaker 6: a good store with, it you know What i'm.
Speaker 2: Saying and IF i, don't you.
Speaker 3: Gotta.
Speaker 6: You, see everybody need, coaches you know What i'm. Saying
Speaker 6: So i'm just like you could coach me on how
Speaker 6: to not spend the.
Speaker 2: Bag you know WHAT i.
Speaker 3: Mean, hey, Listen i'm gonna tell you one.
Speaker 2: Thing.
Speaker 3: YEP i got assistant Named, ruth And i'm gonna tell
Speaker 3: you the.
Speaker 2: Truth.
Speaker 3: Wenna we're gonna make. Magic we're gonna MAKE.
Speaker 6: I wish, you, MAN i wish you because, listen you
Speaker 6: know What i'm, saying Don't i'm, tight and Then i'll
Speaker 6: be you, know SOMETIMES i be hanging with rappers and
Speaker 6: rappers we want to spend, money And i'm, like, man,
Speaker 6: y'all really.
Speaker 2: Just be out. HERE i just feel LIKE i need
Speaker 2: to hold on the. Mind you feel?
Speaker 3: Me a matter of? Fact this this is all? Right
Speaker 3: let me get a little serious, Now i'm not even
Speaker 3: playing all, right my, finances my area, expertise uh. Huh
Speaker 3: i'm brilliant in that area when it comes to save
Speaker 3: and deals and stuff like. That but Then i'm gonna
Speaker 3: need you to talk to.
Speaker 2: Me, okay, okay come, on it's a.
Speaker 3: Marriage and your twenty not have my. Discipline you had
Speaker 3: you could boom coach your boy up in that. Area
Speaker 3: Because i'm trying To i'm trying to get to The Promised.
Speaker 2: Land, YEAH i THINK i can help, you. BRO i
Speaker 2: THINK i can help.
Speaker 6: You.
Speaker 3: Bro i'm not Even.
Speaker 1: Yeah your problem is you done been to The Promised
Speaker 1: land far too many.
Speaker 2: Times. Right get What i'm put down?
Speaker 6: Now you you you wandering in the desert right, now my,
Speaker 6: brother you got to get out the.
Speaker 3: Desert you see What i'm.
Speaker 6: Saying you gotta get out to you gotta quit striking
Speaker 6: the rock to get water out of. It you did
Speaker 6: What i'm, saying and just let The lord bring you
Speaker 6: the living.
Speaker 2: Water you dig What i'm.
Speaker 3: Saying, People he brought it to, me but this TIME
Speaker 3: i want to make Sure i'm drinking it the right.
Speaker 4: Way, OKAY i wish, you you know, what help me understand,
Speaker 4: this BECAUSE i think IT'S i think it's gonna it's extremely.
Speaker 2: Hard if you think that.
Speaker 1: If you've really never been monogamous in a, relationship you
Speaker 1: think the first time that you're gonna be monogamous is
Speaker 1: when you get. MARRIED i think that you set yourself
Speaker 1: up a. Failure, yeah, yeah go, ahead go. Ahead i'na
Speaker 1: let you take it awaycause you Know i'm gonna.
Speaker 3: Say you need some training.
Speaker 2: Wheels you need some training. Wheels, yeah, no real. TALK
Speaker 2: i know this from.
Speaker 1: Experience, yes BECAUSE i think people think that marriage, solves
Speaker 1: but it does.
Speaker 7: Not.
Speaker 6: No, no because if you look in to find wholeness
Speaker 6: in another, person you're gonna fail every.
Speaker 3: Time you know What i'm.
Speaker 6: Saying you people be, saying, OH i want somebody to complete. Me,
Speaker 6: well if you don't feel like you're a complete, person
Speaker 6: you don't.
Speaker 2: Need to be getting nobody. Else feel What i'm, saying
Speaker 2: you're half a person right. Now you need to. Chill
Speaker 2: you get yourself.
Speaker 1: Whole happiness is not something it's not something you. Find
Speaker 1: happiness is something you can. Create, yeah, MAN i think
Speaker 1: not someone. Else are found in someone.
Speaker 6: Else, yeah like like you, know, YEAH i got married
Speaker 6: young BECAUSE i. KNEW i was, LIKE i didn't have
Speaker 6: all the. ANSWERS i didn't know exactly EVERYTHING i. KNEW
Speaker 6: i wanted to Follow. GOD i want to do it
Speaker 6: the right. WAY i was, blessed you know What i'm.
Speaker 6: SAYING i was young AND i, made you, know a
Speaker 6: decision based off of WHAT i knew at the.
Speaker 3: TIME i was blessed to get somebody who's.
Speaker 6: Amazing BUT i will say from coming from being a
Speaker 6: young but.
Speaker 2: LISTEN i.
Speaker 6: WAS i Pledged Kappa ALPHA psi In Middle Tennessee State.
Speaker 6: University it Was it's a wild. SITUATION i can. Imagine,
Speaker 6: yeah it was a wild.
Speaker 2: Situation you did What i'm.
Speaker 6: Saying we going TO, tsu were going To, Fisk i'm
Speaker 6: going To, Texas i'm going To Prayer.
Speaker 2: VIEW i was, like it was kind of.
Speaker 6: Crazy so WHAT i WHAT i had to do WAS
Speaker 6: i had to develop some discipline as a single man
Speaker 6: BEFORE i could really jump.
Speaker 2: In, yeah you know What i'm, saying you got you
Speaker 2: gotta get, it you gotta get it under. Control yeah that's,
Speaker 2: right that's.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 6: Yeah SO i had to develop some discipline as a
Speaker 6: single man and, realize, HEY i can, SHIELD i can't
Speaker 6: let me just be you, know uh, abstained and learn
Speaker 6: to just.
Speaker 3: Let me walk With.
Speaker 6: God AND i felt, like you, KNOW i was running my,
Speaker 6: race and THEN i started running my.
Speaker 2: Race i'm running after The.
Speaker 6: Lord i'm just doing What i'm supposed to, do get
Speaker 6: my my life, together my finance.
Speaker 2: Together i'm. Focused i'm.
Speaker 3: Running and THEN i hear somebody running next to. ME i, say, oh,
Speaker 3: shoot she shined and she. Fast that's that's how it
Speaker 3: happened to, me that that just just like, that BECAUSE
Speaker 3: i was, running you hear, me and BEFORE i looked,
Speaker 3: UP i looked, up you, know somebody was running with.
Speaker 3: Me so WHAT i did right, away WHAT i did
Speaker 3: right away is that when it got, baptized because the
Speaker 3: last that's gonna started wearing off this, man.
Speaker 2: It was it was for.
Speaker 3: Me it was a it was a mental. Reset So
Speaker 3: i've been on point for you, know for some time
Speaker 3: since this person like Join. Massa So i'm, LIKE i
Speaker 3: want TO i want to go to The Promised land
Speaker 3: where you at? Though, okay, okay so boom that's my la.
Speaker 6: Therapy, now my man, said he started wearing, off like
Speaker 6: the water start drying.
Speaker 3: Up, yeah, YEAH i had to take another.
Speaker 2: Depth this man is. Wild well what do you what
Speaker 2: do you?
Speaker 1: Think thus? Far you're still, It you're still young? Man
Speaker 1: what do you what do you what do you think
Speaker 1: your greatest accomplishment?
Speaker 2: Is thus? Far is your?
Speaker 1: Faith your walk With? God studio, album the? Success what
Speaker 1: do you think your greatest accomplishment is its?
Speaker 6: Show ain't my walk With? God my walk With? God boy,
Speaker 6: Boy i'm gonna make it To heaven. Limping he even
Speaker 6: had to carry.
Speaker 2: Me you know What i'm. SAYING i always tell, people, LISTEN.
Speaker 6: I ain't A christian BECAUSE i got it all. Together
Speaker 6: i'm A christian Because i'm weak AND i need a.
Speaker 6: Savior boy, boy he didn't have to carry me in.
Speaker 2: There.
Speaker 1: Boy so those, footprints those, footprints those set of, footprints
Speaker 1: that's him carrying.
Speaker 2: You that's not you walking. Along facts big.
Speaker 6: Facts, YEAH i, mean you, know you get a renewed,
Speaker 6: mind you get a new, nature you, know. You you
Speaker 6: you start following in it as he leads in, guys
Speaker 6: but you know you're still human and you gotta wrestle
Speaker 6: through your. Humanity but for, me you, KNOW i didn't
Speaker 6: have all of the, things number one, albums, uh, success
Speaker 6: all the trappings of. SUCCESS i didn't had all them.
Speaker 6: Things AND i thought that was gonna make me feel.
Speaker 6: ACCOMPLISHED i thought that was gonna bring me a sense of.
Speaker 6: Satisfaction WHAT i realized is it's never. Enough you only
Speaker 6: climb a, mountain get to the top to, realize oh
Speaker 6: there's another, mountain you.
Speaker 2: Know What i'm.
Speaker 6: Saying it's, like oh, man it's just and then you
Speaker 6: get to the top of, one and now you fighting
Speaker 6: everybody else trying to get up there so you can
Speaker 6: keep your, spot like you know WHAT i. Mean and
Speaker 6: it's just kind of, like think about. It if you
Speaker 6: think about you get yourself A Super bowl ring as
Speaker 6: soon as the next season. Start what you're, doing you
Speaker 6: know What i'm, saying chasing another. One SO i feel
Speaker 6: like the greatest accomplishment for, me If i'm being, honest
Speaker 6: is being a present father in my kids' lives BECAUSE
Speaker 6: i never had.
Speaker 2: That.
Speaker 6: Right it's breaking a CYCLE i don't know my mama
Speaker 6: don't know her, dad or she knows her. Dad she
Speaker 6: didn't grow with her. DAD i don't know if he
Speaker 6: grew with his. Dad my dad didn't grow up with his.
Speaker 6: DAD i didn't grow up with my. Dad so for,
Speaker 6: me it's breaking that. Cycle and now our kids are
Speaker 6: being raised with their father present in their.
Speaker 2: Lives you know WHAT i. Mean Like i'm gonna be
Speaker 2: the first.
Speaker 6: Grandfather they that that's gonna. Exist LIKE i never knew a,
Speaker 6: grandfather like a biological. GRANDFATHER i never knew. That my
Speaker 6: mama ain't never knew a. Grandfather So i'm gonna be
Speaker 6: the first grandfather that any of my, generation any generation
Speaker 6: in our family has seen in.
Speaker 2: Generations it's.
Speaker 1: Crazy, Yeah, man, Look, craig thank you for stopping. By,
Speaker 1: man we really appreciate your. Time much continued. Success four
Speaker 1: Time Grammy award winning. Artists he's an, author he's an active,
Speaker 1: activist he's an. Actor his tenth studio Album, reconstruction with
Speaker 1: the album features from T, I, Killer, Mac John, bellen
Speaker 1: And Friday. Man continue, Success congratulations on your walk With.
Speaker 2: God we all can use that and trudg me trust
Speaker 2: me and, MAN.
Speaker 6: I know you, Know so, Listen, man before you, DIP
Speaker 6: i just gonna say. THAT i was gonna say. That, man,
Speaker 6: LISTEN i always tell people, THIS i said all, time
Speaker 6: And i'm telling y'all as. Well, man be, encouraged because
Speaker 6: if you woke up, today that Mean god ain't done
Speaker 6: right in your. Story so, man you, know keep, pressing,
Speaker 6: bro keep pressing like we ain't no like people throw people,
Speaker 6: Away god don't throw. Nobodyway that's why my album Called.
Speaker 6: Reconstruction you know What i'm, Saying god don't throw people.
Speaker 6: Away god figure out how to reconstruct them into something
Speaker 6: better than they.
Speaker 3: Was, So, MAN i just want to tell you, that,
Speaker 3: man be.
Speaker 6: Encouraged like you, know you you, Valuable you got worth,
Speaker 6: purpose and, man, listen you know we we we Gonna
Speaker 6: we're gonna continue rocking with, you supporting, you praying for,
Speaker 6: you And, man you, KNOW i love.
Speaker 2: Y'all, man appreciate. Y'all thank you for having me on
Speaker 2: the night cap you. Did thank, You. BROY i appreciate. That,
Speaker 2: man continue.
Speaker 1: Success yeah much love create chat. Man that was that
Speaker 1: was the unbelievable. Conversation Oh, Joe that's one of the
Speaker 1: best CONVERSATIONS i think we've. Had we've had a lot
Speaker 1: of people come on here and have a, conversation BUT
Speaker 1: i think that's one of our better. CONVERSATIONS i, KNOW
Speaker 1: i definitely needed to hear a lot of what he was.
Speaker 2: Saying, yeah, yeah all.
Speaker 1: Right on show the big news of the day when
Speaker 1: a video emerged this warning That Rajah jackson unleashed a
Speaker 1: violent attack On Seiko Stu Psycho, stu rendering him unconscious
Speaker 1: during a wrestling event In Los. ANGELES lapd confirmed TO
Speaker 1: tmz the officers were called to the wrestling Show saturday,
Speaker 1: night took a police, report and have launched an investigation
Speaker 1: into the. Incident the shocking moment unfolded at a Private
Speaker 1: Knocks Pro academy wrestling. Event rajah knocked Out Cycle stu
Speaker 1: then continued pumblingly pummeling him long after he was. Down rajah's,
Speaker 1: Dad Rampage, jackson put out a, STATEMENT i want to
Speaker 1: clear up misinformation about my Son. Raja i've been confirmed
Speaker 1: that the Wrestler Stuart smith Aka Cycho stu is awakened.
Speaker 1: Stable rajah was unexpectedly hit in the head of the
Speaker 1: head by. Him moments before The smith's, Match raja was
Speaker 1: told that he could get his payback in the. RING
Speaker 1: i thought it was a part of the. Show it
Speaker 1: was bad judgment and a work that went. Wrong rajah
Speaker 1: is an MM a, fighter not a pro, wrestler and
Speaker 1: he had no business being involved involved in an event like.
Speaker 1: THIS i don't can know my son's action at. All
Speaker 1: he suffered a concussion from sparring only days ago and
Speaker 1: had no business doing anything remotely close to physical. Contact
Speaker 1: as a, Father i'm deeply concerned with his health and
Speaker 1: his well being of Mister. Smith that being, Said i'm
Speaker 1: very upset that any any of this, happened but my
Speaker 1: main concern now that Mister smith will make a speedy.
Speaker 1: RECOVERY i apologize on behalf of the kick for this.
Speaker 1: Situation video later emerged of the incident that happened hours.
Speaker 2: Before just take a look at, THIS O, JOE i
Speaker 2: see that he's not a.
Speaker 5: YE i KNOW'D i.
Speaker 3: Was, Hey I'm i'm. Confused what what what did he
Speaker 3: do to his? Head did did he hit? Him did
Speaker 3: he smack?
Speaker 1: Him it's supposed to have been a, prompt SO i
Speaker 1: guess they were supposed to be, rehearsing, okay, okay and
Speaker 1: they were supposed to take this into the, me just
Speaker 1: like it's, scripted just like w, yeah, Yeah and SO
Speaker 1: i guess he suffered his Dad rampage said he suffered
Speaker 1: a concussion. EARLIER i guess as far in session BECAUSE
Speaker 1: i SAW i saw that video where he got kicked
Speaker 1: in the head and he kind of stumbled a little.
Speaker 2: Bit, OH i saw.
Speaker 3: That WHEN i saw, THAT i saw that on On. Twitter, okay.
Speaker 2: Okay and then you see a situation like, this.
Speaker 1: You gotta be, careful you, know been putting people in
Speaker 1: situations that they're not used to because so, out they'll tell,
Speaker 1: him so now you can get your opportunity to get. Back,
Speaker 1: well he thought he was getting back because he picked
Speaker 1: the guy up and he's you, know he powers slammed
Speaker 1: him and the first thing to hit was the psychos dude's.
Speaker 2: Head so once he slammed, him he's out.
Speaker 8: Right he's.
Speaker 3: Out and is that where he kept punching the?
Speaker 1: DUDE i saw, Him, Yes AND i guess they thought
Speaker 1: it was a part of the script because nobody in a, bean,
Speaker 1: right and then they, realized, like, nah this ain't a
Speaker 1: part of the.
Speaker 2: Script.
Speaker 3: Right that's. Tough that's.
Speaker 2: Tough it is it is when it comes to.
Speaker 3: Rastling obviously it wouldn't be anything. REAL i mean that that's.
Speaker 3: Unfortunate that's. Unfortunate, dude is okay now, though, right?
Speaker 1: Dude that that's what that's What rampay, says that he's.
Speaker 1: Awake But i'm just going by what What rampay. Said
Speaker 1: so his, FATHER i don't.
Speaker 3: Know that's that's, tough, man that's. Tough that's.
Speaker 8: Tough i'm not.
Speaker 3: SURE i, mean why he would go on with the
Speaker 3: fight if he felt, insulted you, Know, uh at the,
Speaker 3: beginning he. Didn't he didn't have to do.
Speaker 1: IT i think they told, Him Oh, joe you, know
Speaker 1: he went through with it because, Said, okay now you
Speaker 1: can get your.
Speaker 2: Payback so he was, saying but the thing is pay
Speaker 2: back to.
Speaker 3: Gain if it's not, real if it's not real and it's,
Speaker 3: scripted there's no payback to. Gain you you just should
Speaker 3: you should just called it off of.
Speaker 1: Anything BUT i don't think they thought it would get to,
Speaker 1: this you know What i'm. Saying it's, like you, know,
Speaker 1: uh he, snapped there's no, where there's there's nowhere around.
Speaker 1: It you hear stories of somebody blacking out and just
Speaker 1: like just going, crazy going. Haywired he. Snapped he, did
Speaker 1: because that's when you what uh uh and and law.
Speaker 1: Enforcements that's what they call overkill when, somebody when somebody
Speaker 1: gets stabbed one hundred, times yes a lot of, times
Speaker 1: the knife is still going into the same. Wound that's.
Speaker 1: Overkilled what he did was he. Snapped he just lost
Speaker 1: his ability to.
Speaker 2: Stop damn. Man that's.
Speaker 8: That's.
Speaker 1: Fun it's it's it's a it's a very tough situation
Speaker 1: for all parties. Involved hopefully Uh raja you, know gets
Speaker 1: the assistance that he. Needs hopefully uh, Uh Psycho, stu
Speaker 1: he makes a full and speeded. Recovery uh and. Uh
Speaker 1: but this is a very very very very unfortunate. Situation,
Speaker 1: Oh vikings trade Quarterback Sam howe to The eagles signed
Speaker 1: Quarterback Carson. Wentz, Oh, joe do you Like Carson wentz MENTORING. J. J.
Speaker 3: McCarthy, yeah, YEAH i Mean Carson wentz once who had,
Speaker 3: success a lot of success with The eagles Before Jaden
Speaker 3: hurts took. Over Carson wentz was extremely good and very
Speaker 3: promising before tearing HIS. A c if, you if, you if,
Speaker 3: you if you don't, remember so him mentoring MENTORING jj
Speaker 3: could be could be, good could be, good and it'd
Speaker 3: be a good backup as well FOR J. J. McCarthy
Speaker 3: SO i THINK i think that's pretty. Dope and that's
Speaker 3: it's also a player WHERE jj doesn't have to be
Speaker 3: looking over his shoulder as, well, RIGHT i think that also.
Speaker 3: Bothers i'm not SAYING jj is a, veteran but players
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 5: Quarterback you want a long.
Speaker 2: Leash you don't want a short.
Speaker 3: Way shortly, exactly throw an interception And.
Speaker 1: I'm coming to the sideline and coach shaking his head
Speaker 1: and you see the quarterback on the sideline warming, up warming.
Speaker 3: Up, yeah, yeah that's not it's a situation where he
Speaker 3: doesn't have to worry about. That what's gonna be cann
Speaker 3: can be kind of, tricky and since so that's SOMETHING
Speaker 3: jj doesn't have to worry. ABOUT i THINK. J. J
Speaker 3: McCarthy is going to be fine as long as as
Speaker 3: long as BROTHER J Justin jefferson is. Healthy Jordan madison
Speaker 3: has to have what two or three, games three, games
Speaker 3: he'll be. Fine Aaron, jones they Got hokins and they Got,
Speaker 3: hokinson SO jj gonna be. Alright he's gonna be all.
Speaker 1: RIGHT espn Analyst Sam ocho Criticized barris Quarterback Kayler williams
Speaker 1: for wearing his socks, halfway calling it sloppy and lack of.
Speaker 1: Leadership another thing is a little, thing but a big,
Speaker 1: thing even just some of the uniform.
Speaker 2: Stuff look at the socks halfway.
Speaker 8: Down that means. Nothing come, on come, on, baby come.
Speaker 8: ON i love.
Speaker 3: IT i love you to.
Speaker 8: Death it means, Nothing it.
Speaker 2: Doesn't it.
Speaker 3: Means. Nothing you, know wearing your socks, high wearing your
Speaker 3: socks low means. Nothing come, on we're doing too much,
Speaker 3: now just come, on come.
Speaker 1: ON i guess if it's an opportunity to, CRITICIZE i don't.
Speaker 1: Know LIKE i, SAID i Like Kayler. WILLIAMS i think
Speaker 1: he's gonna be. GOOD i like him in this. Offense you,
Speaker 1: know obviously he's gonna have to do a better job
Speaker 1: of getting the ball out of his, hand realizing that
Speaker 1: he can't make every. PLAY i love they surrounded him with.
Speaker 1: Talent you go out, there take a. RECEIVER i think
Speaker 1: of the second. Round they GOT Dj, moore they got A,
Speaker 1: dooms they took a court a tight end in the first,
Speaker 1: round pairing With Cole. Commit they've rebuilt the offensive. LINE
Speaker 1: i like what they've done In chicago to Help Caleb
Speaker 1: williams reach his. Potential now it's going to be incumbent
Speaker 1: on him to reach that potential because they've given him a,
Speaker 1: hedge which is the offensive line to protect, him and
Speaker 1: they've given him skill position players to make his. Job
Speaker 1: he don't have to lift as much as he normally
Speaker 1: he normally would have to.
Speaker 2: Lift.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Absolutely BUT i agree with you, All. Joe i'm
Speaker 1: not getting caught up into something like. That it's not
Speaker 1: that big of a.
Speaker 8: Deal, npicking, like come, on come on.
Speaker 2: Now, yeah we talk about.
Speaker 1: Socks Lamar jackson needs five hundred rushing yard this season
Speaker 1: to Pass Cam newton for the most five hundred plus
Speaker 1: rushing yard seasons by quarterback IN nfl.
Speaker 2: History does he get? It? O?
Speaker 3: Ya, absolutely we talk about can't we? Up we talk
Speaker 3: about About Lamar. Jackson we talk about Young bull From,
Speaker 3: Pompado we talk about Young bull that wouldn't went To
Speaker 3: boyd And Beach High. School one of the better quarterbacks
Speaker 3: and not JUST, nfl THE Afc north as. Well he
Speaker 3: ain't gonna get.
Speaker 2: It.
Speaker 3: ABSOLUTELY i would love to see him repeat what he
Speaker 3: did last, year a forty one touchdown, season four thousand
Speaker 3: plus something. YARDS i don't even know how many rushing
Speaker 3: yards he had last, year but he had one hell
Speaker 3: of a. Season he had AN mvp. Season unfortunately he
Speaker 3: didn't get THE. Mvp But i'm sure he's probably gonna
Speaker 3: repeat what he did last.
Speaker 7: Year as much AS i Love Lamar, jackson as much
Speaker 7: AS i love The, ravens The bengals went in THE
Speaker 7: Afc north, THOUGH i JUST i just had to throw
Speaker 7: that in there.
Speaker 1: Too you know, what talk to, Me i'm not gonna
Speaker 1: be surprised That Lamar jackson rushed for ten thousand.
Speaker 3: Yards where's he at right?
Speaker 2: Now you think he's gonna get ten thousand he gonna.
Speaker 1: Have he gonna ended his career with forty fifty thou
Speaker 1: passing yards and ten he's gonna. Be he's gonna be Like,
Speaker 1: lebron Like lebron got, fit gonna have like forty plus thousand,
Speaker 1: points and then he's gonna have like you know this many,
Speaker 1: rebounds ten thousand, rebounds ten thousand. Six Lamar jackson's gonna
Speaker 1: have forty thousand and fifty thousand passing.
Speaker 2: Yards and ten thousand rush. Yards nothing that we ain't
Speaker 2: not gonna.
Speaker 3: SEE i don't think he'll get ten thousand plus passing.
Speaker 3: YARDS i think as he gets older three rush yards rush.
Speaker 3: YARDS i think as he gets older and the skill
Speaker 3: being able to run the ball, DETERIORATES i think he
Speaker 3: makes up for it in other, areas which is why
Speaker 3: he's gotten so well and so good and polished in
Speaker 3: the passing.
Speaker 2: Game how many? Yards how many roust Yards lamar? Got
Speaker 2: he probably over six? Thousand now he got sixty one
Speaker 2: hundred right? Now oh?
Speaker 5: Yo?
Speaker 3: Yeah but, no, yeah another another. Folk that's a whole
Speaker 3: that's a whole lot of rushing On.
Speaker 2: Oh, cho think about?
Speaker 1: It o, yo that man had eight hundred last year
Speaker 1: and like, Nothing, yeah, yeah, yeah that's THINK i mean
Speaker 1: He lamar came out in twenty twenty. Eighteen lamar came
Speaker 1: out in twenty, eighteen, right, yeah think about?
Speaker 5: That yeah eight years?
Speaker 2: Deep you? Right he getting ten. Bands this game has.
Speaker 3: Changed though game has, CHANGED i don't even see. IT
Speaker 3: i don't even see See. LAMAR i mean, honestly even
Speaker 3: with the rushing, YARDS i don't even see him as
Speaker 3: a runner. Quarterback he's a Throw he's a throw of the.
Speaker 5: Ball.
Speaker 3: First if you if you notice how his game has
Speaker 3: changed and evolved over.
Speaker 2: Time, yeah he's got.
Speaker 3: Better Lamar jackson is running the ball if he just
Speaker 3: has to and has no other goddamn.
Speaker 2: Choice, yeah we.
Speaker 1: Know, Uh, look in order for him to this offense
Speaker 1: to go and for him for them to, win he
Speaker 1: had to. Evolve he just couldn't be what he once.
Speaker 1: Was and he's gotten better and better every year throwing the.
Speaker 1: Football they've given him added. Weapons so, YEAH i. Don't,
Speaker 1: yeah he's gonna get better and. Better and ALL i say, is,
Speaker 1: look if he can get his arms to be eighty
Speaker 1: percent of his.
Speaker 2: Legs he'd be the best quarterback in the.
Speaker 3: League.
Speaker 2: Yeah for, now he damned there ninety percent. Arm damn
Speaker 2: there ninety percent of his.
Speaker 8: Legs, yeah that's what makes him so goddamn dangerous.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh joe Draft kings ranked EVERY afc AND nfc
Speaker 1: wide receiver duo heading into the upcoming.
Speaker 3: Season here they, go hold, on hold on asking me
Speaker 3: that Ask she might have seen it. Already there it
Speaker 3: is that, is hold, on here we. Go, okay you
Speaker 3: see who number one? Is a check? Chack do y'all
Speaker 3: see the number one is huh.
Speaker 2: The team that mister the playoffs last, year that ain't.
Speaker 3: Got nothing to do with what we're talking. ABOUT i just,
Speaker 3: said do you see who number one?
Speaker 2: Is, yeah we see.
Speaker 3: That, okay wait a, minute.
Speaker 5: How the?
Speaker 3: Hell? Okay?
Speaker 2: Oh oh, no?
Speaker 3: Oh this, order this, order this is this order is
Speaker 3: a no.
Speaker 2: Noe, okay tell what you got for?
Speaker 3: One where the hell is golfing of Mon Ross Saint?
Speaker 3: Brown that's THE Ac oh, oh that's THE. Nfc you mean.
Speaker 2: This is THE. Afc you're looking at THE. Afc my.
Speaker 3: BAD i thought it WAS i thought it was a
Speaker 3: Whole my. Bad i'm. Glad i'm glad you said something to.
Speaker 1: Say we ranked EVERY afc quarterback wide receiver. Duo you
Speaker 1: Told ash to send it to you on your, screen
Speaker 1: and you got.
Speaker 2: IT i.
Speaker 3: Know i'm looking at. It i'm looking at it, like,
Speaker 3: well wait a, Minute well, NO i Think Lamar, Lamar
Speaker 3: lamar And lamar and they should be. Two Lamar AND's
Speaker 3: they should be. Two lad mcconkeye And herbert should be.
Speaker 3: Three oh wait a, minute hell, no, MAN c The, STROUD.
Speaker 3: Cj stroud And Nico collins should be Before Pat mahomes And Rashid.
Speaker 3: Rice hey, boy this is good right, here this is.
Speaker 2: Good this is.
Speaker 3: Good so at Two i'm Putting lamar And Zave flowers
Speaker 3: and Then i'm Going nick O'Collins and c The. Shroud
Speaker 3: Then lad McConkie And Justin, herbert Because lad McConkie And Justin,
Speaker 3: Herbert ladarius, Mconkie, boy they be they be cutting up out.
Speaker 2: There uh look where they got your. Team look where
Speaker 2: they Got.
Speaker 3: Miami, yeah and they're only doing that because of. That
Speaker 3: they're only doing that because two and and and recapped down.
Speaker 3: Here they'll be back this. Year they'll be back this. Year,
Speaker 3: Hey Josh allen And Khalil. Shakour so after after After,
Speaker 3: herbert then Then i'm Going mahomes And Rashid rice and
Speaker 3: Then Josh allen secure and after, that the the order
Speaker 3: is pretty. Much you got some people that haven't even
Speaker 3: done anything. Yet, yeah you got some people that haven't
Speaker 3: done anything. Yet so.
Speaker 2: Yeah in THE.
Speaker 3: Nfc, okay we see where THE NFC a where THE nfc? At,
Speaker 3: okay here we, go here we, Go, OKAY A. J,
Speaker 3: brown that's, right.
Speaker 5: Whoa, whoa, whoa whoa.
Speaker 3: Whoa for, One i'm okay With Jayleen HURSTON A. J,
Speaker 3: Brown but with at at two at, Two i'm going,
Speaker 3: on are you?
Speaker 1: Sure you Sure Jayalen hurst AND A. J brown is
Speaker 1: better than. Golfing i'm In Ross Saint, brown are you?
Speaker 2: Sure?
Speaker 3: Well, hell if that's the, case Then Matt stafford belong
Speaker 3: in front of, everybody mass stop and poop in the,
Speaker 3: court belong in front.
Speaker 2: Everybody if that's, what are we sure it gets it?
Speaker 2: Arrested it?
Speaker 5: Does it.
Speaker 3: Does it's a good. One it's a good. One and
Speaker 3: then and when you think about, it you think About Jaylen,
Speaker 3: brown talk About Jayleen, brown you think About Jayleen hurst
Speaker 3: AND A. J. Brown they didn't put up argantious. Numbers,
Speaker 3: no and it put up gargantious. Numbers but if we
Speaker 3: if if, anything.
Speaker 2: Jay golf And Am Saint brown.
Speaker 3: Do and so they're pooking the core in in mass.
Speaker 1: Effort AND i, LIKE i, LIKE i Like Jaye, dames
Speaker 1: BUT i don't think him and McLaurin along in front
Speaker 1: Of golf and uh and Common.
Speaker 2: ROTH i can make a.
Speaker 1: CASE i can make a case that Almend rodd And
Speaker 1: god should be.
Speaker 3: One Mike, Evans Mike evans In Baker, mayfield they. Low
Speaker 3: being at six is way too. Low being in six
Speaker 3: is way too.
Speaker 2: Low, really.
Speaker 3: And obviously Justin jefferson And jayz. Didn't they didn't have
Speaker 3: opportunity to play together.
Speaker 2: Yet, right SO i understand them being that. Low who
Speaker 2: would you go?
Speaker 3: First who would who would you put? First honestly me
Speaker 3: me chat, chat tell me what y'all THINK i would.
Speaker 2: Put i'll put Golf, In Saint brown in.
Speaker 3: SECOND i would Put Matthew stafford And pooking the COOL.
Speaker 2: I would, PUT i would, PUT.
Speaker 3: I would, HAVE i would Have, DAK.
Speaker 2: I, MIGHT i might PUT i.
Speaker 1: Might i'm gonna Put Baker mayfield And Mike everans in
Speaker 1: my top.
Speaker 2: Five.
Speaker 3: Yeah, ABSOLUTELY i would Put dak IN cd third and then,
Speaker 3: Fourth i'd Have Baker mayfield And Mike evans THEN i. Go, yeah,
Speaker 3: absolutely or Before hurst and J. J i might put
Speaker 3: mcdames and McLaurin, first BECAUSE i mean after that after
Speaker 3: that's a toss.
Speaker 2: Up.
Speaker 8: Damn THAT'S i like.
Speaker 3: THIS i like, this but number, One i'm definitely going
Speaker 3: but uh absolutely absolutely hell pooping the cool went crazy
Speaker 3: last year, too so that's WHY i.
Speaker 1: Second, Oh, joe what would you change about this? List
Speaker 1: these are the fastest players based on end game. Speed
Speaker 1: you Got tier, one you got, time you Got, Rieke Daryl,
Speaker 1: Green Bullet Bob, Hayes Chris. Johnson then you Got, Bo Randy,
Speaker 1: Rashi Raheem, Moster DeShawn, Jackson Devin, Hester Joey. Galloway then
Speaker 1: you Got Willie, Gaul, Trendon, Holiday Cliff, Branch Mike, Vick Markeuith,
Speaker 1: goodwin god Good, Goodwin Dante, Hall Ron, Brown Ron brown can.
Speaker 1: Run people don't realize. That then you Got John, Ross Ike,
Speaker 1: Taylor Jacobe, Ford Jacoby ford could, Run Mike, Wallace Mike
Speaker 1: wallace could, Fly Champ, Bailey, Jamal charles pat P Julio.
Speaker 1: Jones then you Got Herschel, walker D R C, Xavi You're,
Speaker 1: Worthy Percy, Harved Adrian, Peterson, Barriss Odell.
Speaker 2: Lamar then you.
Speaker 1: Got Charles, Woodson Tyler, lockett Uh Cordier, Patterson Bill, Myle Jonathan,
Speaker 1: Taylor Jamison, Williams Fabian, Washington Rod, woodson.
Speaker 2: Missing anybody out? Yo? Uh they should have Had james
Speaker 2: yet on, Here.
Speaker 3: Jarius, Hayward babe did he? Say did he is he on?
Speaker 2: There? Nope?
Speaker 5: UH i.
Speaker 3: Forgot they Got Bethel, johnson who played with The, patriots
Speaker 3: AND i forgot who else he played. For he's another,
Speaker 3: BURNER a Mad carroll Remember Mark carroll Played, yeah m
Speaker 3: Hm Green, Bay Jesus, christ that boy could.
Speaker 2: Run yeah, Yeah.
Speaker 8: Lee i'm trying to, think who About? Burners, BURNERS.
Speaker 1: I can't lie that top, list that top, LIST i,
Speaker 1: Mean Bob hayes running gold, medal so it's called The
Speaker 1: it's hard to argue. Him Derril green never lost THE
Speaker 1: nfl fastest.
Speaker 2: Man we know what.
Speaker 1: Riek Chris johnson had the fastest forty times four to
Speaker 1: two four and we know.
Speaker 2: Prime, yeah but the time is. Time.
Speaker 3: Yeah the funny thing about it Is Randy moss ran
Speaker 3: four two two and people don't even realize that he
Speaker 3: ran four two when he was At Florida. State he
Speaker 3: left to go To. Marshall Randy moss ran four two
Speaker 3: at six. Four SO i really Think Randy moss should
Speaker 3: be in, that in that.
Speaker 2: Top, one top. One. YEAH i Think Ron brown Wasn't Ron,
Speaker 2: bright Didn't Ron? BROWN i Think Ron brown was on
Speaker 2: The olympic team in eighty.
Speaker 1: Four Didn't Ron? Brown want A? U we are he
Speaker 1: on The olympic team in eighty four With dada In
Speaker 1: Sam grandy, Uh Carl lewis.
Speaker 8: You know?
Speaker 3: What you, know what's the most impressive?
Speaker 2: Team did he, YEAH i thought. So Ron brown could.
Speaker 3: Fly everybody on this list is, impressive BUT i don't
Speaker 3: think people understand Watching moss. Highlights they don't do you
Speaker 3: no justice unless you were able to see that up
Speaker 3: closer than personal because he start, off he start off
Speaker 3: gliding and you don't really know him moving until you're
Speaker 3: trying to catch him or he gonna threw that hand
Speaker 3: up and he running by.
Speaker 1: You, BOY i, think but, SEE i Think helster was
Speaker 1: more shifted than. Fast oh, No henster was.
Speaker 3: Fast who, Now Devin, Hester university Of, Miami Devin. Helston,
Speaker 3: yeah oh for he was fast and shifted well now he.
Speaker 2: COULD i mean he wasn't faster Than willie gaul on.
Speaker 3: HOLIDAY i mean you got to understand once you get
Speaker 3: past full three and, UP i mean you fast as. Hell,
Speaker 3: yeah which is which which makes most of the people
Speaker 3: that's on this list that that that's special because not
Speaker 3: only can you go in a straight, line but you
Speaker 3: can also. Transition you had great ladder. Movement you were
Speaker 3: able to stop and restart and get right back right
Speaker 3: back up the top. Speed everybody can't do. That most
Speaker 3: people are just fast and the straight. Line everybody on
Speaker 3: this list can actually play. Football they're good At.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah think about how many track runners can just run
Speaker 3: in a straight. Line you put them on the football
Speaker 3: field and it won't be the.
Speaker 2: Same.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well Neil my didn't didn't do too well at
Speaker 1: football because he couldn't remantles.
Speaker 2: On he learnt that thing.
Speaker 3: Back who was the track runner that played At, FLORIDA
Speaker 3: i mean that ran track At Florida university Of, florida
Speaker 3: but played football, Too Jeff. Demps Jeff. Demps Jeff. Demp,
Speaker 3: hey he was fast as, hell.
Speaker 1: Boy, yeah all them guys Look. Tennessee willigall From. Tennessee
Speaker 1: Standley morgan was At. Tennessee uh, uh who's the other?
Speaker 1: Receiver Anthony Miller. Tennessee, hey them guys could. Run the
Speaker 1: only way they really couldn't run At tennessee was a
Speaker 1: slim pickings. Hm but all the rest of them, guys
Speaker 1: they're kind of like The Ohio state. Guys you Know Ohio.
Speaker 1: State how they how those all those receivers can. Run
Speaker 1: that's How tennessee used to.
Speaker 2: Be, Okay.
Speaker 1: Sam, graddy anybody anybody we, missing no shoe anybody we leave.
Speaker 3: Out that's WHAT i WAS i was trying to think not.
Speaker 3: Really that's a that's a good guy damn list.
Speaker 1: Boy, yeah That's Bob hayes changed the. Game he made.
Speaker 1: Teams everybody that you had to do away with. It
Speaker 1: he Brought he brought his own coverage in because can
Speaker 1: you imagine trying to cover trying to the world's fastest.
Speaker 2: Man you try to play man the man on it.
Speaker 3: Ain't. Happening there was some speed on, there.
Speaker 1: Boy Warner brothers acquires the script for A Kobe bryant
Speaker 1: movie based on the nineteen ninety six. Draft the new
Speaker 1: film will focus On kobe's nineteen ninety six draft, day
Speaker 1: and it's intensively Titled with The Eighth. Pick the eighth
Speaker 1: pick in the draft was held by The nets coach
Speaker 1: but Recent message defector and coach Current arkansas Boss John.
Speaker 2: Calipari The New.
Speaker 1: Jersey New jersey was reportedly eager to Draft, bran only
Speaker 1: to pass under considerable external. Pressure Oh, yo are you
Speaker 1: excited about the first biop About Kobe Bean?
Speaker 3: Brad, yeah absolutely. ABSOLUTELY i think it's gonna Be it's
Speaker 3: gonna be dope to relive and retell the story of
Speaker 3: how it all. Started we know how it ended as
Speaker 3: far as when it comes to his. Career but let's
Speaker 3: talk about how it all.
Speaker 8: Started you, know.
Speaker 3: How The mamba mentality came. About ye in the, beginning the,
Speaker 3: BEGINNING i think THAT i think it's gonna be. Dope
Speaker 3: it's gonna be dope for me BECAUSE i don't know
Speaker 3: his whole. STORY i know the finished product THAT i
Speaker 3: got to see ON, espn you, KNOW i, GOT i
Speaker 3: got they got to see that that. Part you, KNOW
Speaker 3: i obviously had many conversations With kobe, before you, know
Speaker 3: before he. PASSED i had the opportunity to go sit
Speaker 3: the court side with my, son LITTLE. Cj WHEN cj was,
Speaker 3: UH i MEAN cj might have been maybe what nine
Speaker 3: ten years.
Speaker 2: Old i'm.
Speaker 3: Excited i'm excited for that because it's so many different
Speaker 3: layers To kobe's story THAT i don't know, about especially
Speaker 3: when it comes to the draft. Process during those. DAYS i,
Speaker 3: HELL i was still in high.
Speaker 8: School.
Speaker 2: Huh, YEAH i.
Speaker 1: STILL i still got the text before he. PASSED i
Speaker 1: TEXTED I dm Him december twenty, eight twenty. NINETEEN i
Speaker 1: still have, it still got, it. Dang, Yeah i'm definitely
Speaker 1: Going i'm definitely tuned into that. One definitely going to
Speaker 1: tune into that. One all, RIGHT o, shoe it's time
Speaker 1: our final segment of the. Evening it's time.
Speaker 8: FOR q AND a damn.
Speaker 3: MAN i REMEMBER.
Speaker 2: I just.
Speaker 3: POSTED i just posted a picture For kobe's. Birthday kobe
Speaker 3: AND i we sat down in news. Cafe well we
Speaker 3: sat there by two, hours, man mm, hmmm sat there
Speaker 3: by two hours and talked about.
Speaker 2: Life in.
Speaker 3: General at this, TIME i was WHEN i was just just,
Speaker 3: scruntled as they call, it WHEN i was With cincinnati
Speaker 3: and H i had, GOT i, GOT i had gotten in. Trouble.
Speaker 3: Man it was a great. Conversation it Was i'm not
Speaker 3: going to disclose it road to here, now but but
Speaker 3: it's it's one of those conversations like WHEN i sat
Speaker 3: With Denzel courtside that one.
Speaker 2: Time mm. Hmm it was on my.
Speaker 3: Head it was one of those.
Speaker 8: Conversations it was is? Dope it was.
Speaker 2: Dope it was more you'll never. Forget, yes it.
Speaker 3: Was more of a, lashing a lashing out for the
Speaker 3: acting out in the manner THAT i.
Speaker 2: Did mm.
Speaker 3: Hmm it ain't it ain't that that understanding that there's
Speaker 3: no WAY i was gonna win that battle against that power.
Speaker 3: Structure so why are you even?
Speaker 8: Trying in a sense, right.
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Speaker 1: your money?
Speaker 2: Yet if? Not oh got a. Catch i'm gonna do
Speaker 2: What yannis. Do i'm gonna DO i put on.
Speaker 3: It what hit me in the back of the. Head,
Speaker 3: Hey i'm a. Block i'm gonna block. That i'm gonna block.
Speaker 2: That hey he ain't doing it with. Covey oh uh
Speaker 2: teacher the rail salute my.
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Speaker 1: eternity no, more But Holy trinity connection is worth it
Speaker 1: and forever Praise.
Speaker 2: God this, dude there's a, clown such a.
Speaker 1: PHONY i would rather take D mx over him IF
Speaker 1: i wanted to listen to rap music to get closer To.
Speaker 2: God uh, Huh, WELL i, mean what did you do to?
Speaker 2: You m? Man? People, man y'all need to y'all need to. Chill.
Speaker 2: Man you don't like the man, Music, okay that's, fine.
Speaker 1: But people like. HIM i like the conversation that we
Speaker 1: had and the man, said the man, said the man,
Speaker 1: said he, said he wasn't. PERFECT i THINK i think
Speaker 1: sometimes don't. Shoe when we were talking about religion and
Speaker 1: somebody's trying to walk With. God people automatically assume that
Speaker 1: the guy that that he or she are, perfect and
Speaker 1: that's not what that.
Speaker 2: Means he said that.
Speaker 3: Too he said he's walking With god because he's not
Speaker 3: perfect and he needs that. Savior.
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Speaker 1: Out but felt? That BUT i guess he, SAID i
Speaker 1: feel the need to keep The shawn in his last,
Speaker 1: year and my trip.
Speaker 2: It, oh, no they need. To they definitely need.
Speaker 4: To, Uh.
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Speaker 2: they take your door?
Speaker 1: Out considering if they're gonna keep four, quarterbacks your door
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Speaker 1: keep Not Snoop.
Speaker 2: Huntly that's WHAT i.
Speaker 1: LOOK i don't got no problem you want to take him,
Speaker 1: Out BUT i think your duel would have been, better,
Speaker 1: sir being in that situation because there's a possibility that
Speaker 1: situation she could come up and he happens to be
Speaker 1: the quarterback of The Cleveland.
Speaker 2: Browns that's WHAT i.
Speaker 1: THINK i think that's what the consensus is, was is
Speaker 1: that a guy that you're gonna keep on the, roster
Speaker 1: put him in a situation that he might actually see
Speaker 1: come game. Time, Yeah, Look deshaun's gonna be on the.
Speaker 1: Team he has ninety two million dollars still guaranteed this
Speaker 1: year and next, year twenty, five twenty. Six SO i
Speaker 1: don't see a scenario where they're gonna cut him out.
Speaker 1: There probably keep him ON ir for the entirety of this.
Speaker 5: Year.
Speaker 2: Uh he, Tore he tore THE ki leads late last
Speaker 2: and then he ended up retelling. It so he's not
Speaker 2: playing this.
Speaker 1: Season King graf, said if you're both in your, prime
Speaker 1: Could chad beat you in a one on one tight
Speaker 1: end versus. Receiver, LOOK i came back. FEDAL i could
Speaker 1: never back. Pedal that's why he played. WELL i was
Speaker 1: played safety in high, school BUT i was mainly a
Speaker 1: lineback on a wide.
Speaker 3: Receiver, WELL i, COULD i would have locked your ass.
Speaker 3: UP i could back put. IT i would have locked you.
Speaker 3: Up i'm telling you right, now you wouldn't have caught one.
Speaker 3: Ball we talked about ten. Reps And i'll let you
Speaker 3: Have John. Alway i'll let you Have John airway AND i.
Speaker 3: Play matter of, FACT i ain't gonna. Play I'm i'm
Speaker 3: gonna play. Man i'm playing your. Face i'm playing your,
Speaker 3: face And i'm gonna put my hold. On listen to,
Speaker 3: Me i'm gonna put my palm right between the eight
Speaker 3: and the, fold AND i guarantee you won't get off
Speaker 3: the ball telling Me i'm too. LIGHT i ain't too.
Speaker 3: Light that's the same. Thing Ray lewis, said you saw
Speaker 3: what happened to?
Speaker 2: Him? YEAH i. Did Captain kirk, said WHAT'S? Upo who's? Better?
Speaker 2: Uh who's the better one on one rivaly in THE
Speaker 2: nfl Than Ray lewis And Eddie? George that's a good.
Speaker 2: ONE i.
Speaker 3: WOULDN'T i wouldn't consider them a. Rivalry they did play
Speaker 3: against each, other they got some good hits on each.
Speaker 2: OTHER i.
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Speaker 2: TITANS i think they said one on One eddie And
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Speaker 2: Time and And Mike. Irvin you, see when.
Speaker 3: We talk about, rivalries is players that have that that
Speaker 3: continuously play against each other over. Hell you, know you
Speaker 3: want to know to, me the greatest rivalry of. ALL i,
Speaker 3: mean there's some good, ones but for, Me Mike, Evans, yeah.
Speaker 3: Marsh now that's a. Rivalry, Yeah now that's a rivalry
Speaker 3: that we were excited to and couldn't wait because they
Speaker 3: were division, opponents, yep and we knew they were gonna
Speaker 3: face each other twice a year and they literally did
Speaker 3: not like each.
Speaker 2: Other, right that's a.
Speaker 3: RIVALRY i MEAN i GOT i got played Against reavers,
Speaker 3: twice you, know two weeks back to. Back that's. It
Speaker 3: never never never saw him. Again and that's that's really
Speaker 3: not a.
Speaker 2: RIVALRY dj Underscored.
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