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Speaker 1: San Antonio District judge resigns after a federal corruption probe.

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Speaker 2: A former San Antonio, Texas judge goes to federal prison

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Speaker 2: after pleading guilty to accepting bribes in exchange for rigging

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Speaker 2: cases in his court. Angus McGuinty committed the ultimate judicial sin.

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Speaker 1: Why did you do it? I did it because I

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Speaker 1: was foolish.

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Speaker 2: Listen to How to Bribe a Judge on Revolver podcast

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Speaker 3: The John Annick and Kenny Florian podcast. Let's Show Guy,

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Speaker 3: John Annick, Kenny Florian. Oh God, here're your hosts, John

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Speaker 3: Annick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 4: Oh it might be time for a new show. Open

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Speaker 4: Ken Flow. That thing is burning it up for like

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Speaker 4: three plus years now. Good to see you. Good Monday

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Speaker 4: to you or Tuesday?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 4: Goodness, Well you're not waiting till Wednesday to listen to

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Speaker 4: the show. June fourth, twenty eighteen, Episode one, anak and

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Speaker 4: Flooring podcast. What's that shirt? That's not? The associated press looks.

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Speaker 1: At the age it is not. It is Albino and Preto,

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Speaker 1: which is a a jiu jitsu company associated with Show

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Speaker 1: Your Role Good guys, good guys that run it, and

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Speaker 1: what's up?

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Speaker 4: A and p there you go and it's not automar

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Speaker 4: paget am I pronouncing that that would be correctly?

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Speaker 1: You are? You are? That'd be nice. I need a

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Speaker 1: couple of those.

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Speaker 4: So I saw my ex jiu jitsu coach Pahoopa in Utica,

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Speaker 4: New York. I say, ex jiu jitsu coach because I'm

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Speaker 4: not really an active student or practitioner right now. So

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Speaker 4: we're going to get the two inch dollarer mats can

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Speaker 4: flow in my garage, okay, and largely they'll be for

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Speaker 4: my daughter, my daughter's plural, I should say, for gymnastics.

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Speaker 4: But I said, you know, I'll get the thick dollomer

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Speaker 4: mats unless you got a better suggestion for me. And

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Speaker 4: he's gonna give me privates at my house. I mean,

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Speaker 4: how do I turn that down?

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Speaker 1: Dude? I mean, you should definitely do that. You should

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Speaker 1: definitely do that.

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Speaker 4: You understand why?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Man, no excuses now, Annik, I'm going to get on

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Speaker 1: you now.

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Speaker 4: Well with that type of offer, how do you resist? Right?

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Speaker 4: There are no beginners classes in Coconut Creek at ATT Headquarters,

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Speaker 4: which is right near my house. Right west Palm Beach

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Speaker 4: with traffic about an hour plus away with kids. That's

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Speaker 4: not working for me. So he's bringing the Brazilian jiu

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Speaker 4: Jitsu world class black belt to my garage. I think

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Speaker 4: I don't have any excuses. So we're going to talk

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Speaker 4: to long Ago in a minute. Just want to say

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Speaker 4: off the top, and I'm kind of a broken record

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Speaker 4: when it comes to these UFC crowds, but nic a

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Speaker 4: New York crowd, right, I understand they wooed a little bit.

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Speaker 4: None of us likes the wooing. If you do, you're

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Speaker 4: in the minority at this point. But that aside loud crowd,

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Speaker 4: educated crowd, passionate crowd that added to the live event.

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Speaker 4: And I think my takeaway is there are just a

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Speaker 4: lot of young New Yorkers, Kenny, and a lot of

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Speaker 4: young Northeasterners like eighteen to twenty five that have grown

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Speaker 4: up on this stuff that are either there with their

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Speaker 4: parents or with their babies. They love MMA, they love

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Speaker 4: the UFC. And you can see why New York was

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Speaker 4: said a big initiative because every time we go, whether

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Speaker 4: they packed the place and they make noise.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, it was a it was a solid card overall.

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Speaker 1: I thought the crowd was awesome. And again, anytime we

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Speaker 1: see the UFC spread out, you know, I come from

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Speaker 1: a time where the UFC, you know, at one point

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Speaker 1: few pay per views a year. And now to see them,

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Speaker 1: you know, every weekend, going to a different city all

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Speaker 1: amazing seeing the growth.

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Speaker 4: I wonder how many shows there were the year you

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Speaker 4: made your UFC debut. I think it was two thousand

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Speaker 4: and five, am I right? Yes, yeah, I wonder how

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Speaker 4: many shows there were relative to twenty eighteen. All right,

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Speaker 4: quickly coming up today, so we are going to recap

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Speaker 4: this Marlon but Ice, Jimmy rivera card. What a result

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Speaker 4: in the main event UFC two twenty five preview at

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Speaker 4: least nine selections from Ken Flow in the main event challenge,

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Speaker 4: so nine picks, maybe ten. Former UFC Midway Champion Chris

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Speaker 4: Wyman schedule to join us as well, and I guess

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Speaker 4: in the UFC Midway Championship Made event. But we start

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Speaker 4: this week with the showstopper, Ray Longko.

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Speaker 3: It's now time for the Ray Longo Minutes.

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Speaker 1: And I'm gonna punch a hole in this fucking That's what.

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Speaker 3: I wanted the Ray Long Minute. John nik and Kenny

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Speaker 4: It is time for the Ray Longo Minute. And he

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Speaker 4: is fifty dollars richer. Oh he calls the baby goes

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Speaker 4: that Chris Widman.

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Speaker 1: Oh is that Widman?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 1: Look at this here he is.

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Speaker 6: Christ scared the crap that?

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Speaker 4: How about this?

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Speaker 6: I didn't even know he was here. Kenny, I was.

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Speaker 1: Gonna say we could kill him. I thought you were

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Speaker 1: a ninja.

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Speaker 6: Ray.

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Speaker 1: You should detect this for miles away.

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Speaker 6: He's lucky you didn't get shanked.

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Speaker 1: That's right, that's unreal.

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Speaker 6: But a lot of woo wooing in Utica.

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Speaker 4: Well yeah, I mean, and that part wasn't great, But

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Speaker 4: I wanted to acknowledge them because everything else they did

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Speaker 4: to talk to Wyman here coming up in ten minutes.

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Speaker 4: I guess he wants his own segment. I was gonna

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Speaker 4: say we could just kill two birds, but I think

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Speaker 4: Longo wants his own shine too, after predicting Marlon but

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well I had.

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Speaker 5: It the second round, but I was a little quicker,

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Speaker 5: and I think anybody thought, man, he's looking he's looking

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Speaker 6: Again.

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Speaker 5: You know, I think it's it's new, it's fresh. You know,

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Speaker 5: So yeah, paw what to him? Man n Mark Kenry

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Speaker 4: And no, I agree with you. And Mark Henry texted

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Speaker 4: me yesterday just said, you know, this kid came to

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Speaker 4: But if you give him that split decision loss fourteen

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Speaker 4: I think the championship experience helps. He brought a lot

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Speaker 5: Yeah, without a doubt. Yeah, And those guys are really

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Speaker 5: great guys. He's with the right people. And Wallin's a sweetheart.

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Speaker 5: I think he's great for the sport to He speaks well,

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Speaker 5: he's always nice, I don't know, good.

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Speaker 6: Definitely a good dude with good people around them.

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Speaker 5: So I think the sky's the limit for him.

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Speaker 4: So John Belante fights Sam al Be to a split decision.

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Speaker 4: so I'm not scoring to Ray. I don't know if

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Speaker 4: you saw it. I thought Bellante did enough to win

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Speaker 4: and it's hard to blame him. You know, he falls

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Speaker 4: ten and five, if you can believe that. Any thoughts

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Speaker 4: on the Valante Alb fight, Yeah, I mean.

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Speaker 5: Look, I had him winning the second and third round.

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Speaker 5: I mean, like, look, when they were talking about Till

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Speaker 5: Valante's moving forward. It doesn't matter that happen. But again,

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Speaker 5: it's the inconsistencies that are crazy. But look, I know Valante,

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Speaker 6: An exclamation point on that.

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Speaker 5: And you know, like again I had him winning, but

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Speaker 5: I know Valante could have won that fight.

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Speaker 6: I want to say easily, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 6: But he was trying, the guy was backing up.

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Speaker 5: So I don't know whatever I feel for the guy,

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Speaker 5: I guess hometown favorites didn't matter in this one. I

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Speaker 5: guess London's got that down. London's got that down.

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Speaker 4: New York sucks, but yeah, they don't take care of

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Speaker 5: If there was a time for a hometown decision, ten

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Speaker 5: Friday night.

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Speaker 1: Now, I hear you, man, I hear you. Listen. I

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Speaker 1: want to switch gears a little bit to the UC

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Speaker 1: two twenty five and an amazing card. Man, you know,

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Speaker 1: two titles on the line. Here we got RDA taken

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Speaker 1: on Covington. Who wins that fight.

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Speaker 5: tell you, I don't think Covington's going away easy. But uh,

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna pick Ondia.

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Speaker 1: You think. Do you think he stops him?

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Speaker 5: I think if he stops him, it's gonna be late

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Speaker 5: in the fight, like fourth to fifth round, under the

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Speaker 5: fourth fifth round. Yeah, I'll go with a stoppage on that.

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Speaker 5: And what about to an accumulation of blows too? I

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Speaker 5: think that guy's gonna be there to get hit if

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Speaker 5: he he can't get it to the floor. I mean,

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Speaker 5: I just I think his stand up looks like it hasn't,

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Speaker 5: this type of fight. And if RDA to keep that

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Speaker 5: fight standing, he should be picking this guy apart.

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Speaker 1: All right? What about Wyman's division, Romero and Whittaker getting

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Speaker 1: it on who wins?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm going with Whittaker again. I'm saying it's a repeat,

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Speaker 4: If you go to Ray Longo M m A on Instagram,

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Speaker 4: So well, you look like a psychopath on the poster,

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Speaker 4: I see no reason why you can't make a lot

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Speaker 1: I I want to see Ray alongside Paccino and de

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Speaker 6: But this one, you're gonna say, this one will be

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Speaker 4: Well, we're excited to see it. And I think it

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Speaker 4: I'm just saying, we found.

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Speaker 4: Don't you forget Yeah, we made you.

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Speaker 6: I give you guys all the credit. Man, It's all.

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Speaker 5: It's all about having fun and putting yourself about there.

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Speaker 6: Running many canny keep on moving.

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Speaker 1: I love.

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Speaker 5: My next thing is I'm getting on the match again.

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Speaker 5: That's my next project.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and then we're going to have a super match

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Speaker 1: between you and Annick. See who has better jiu jitsu.

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Speaker 6: There you go, that's that's not gonna work out too

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Speaker 6: good for him better. I got a good, tough game.

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Speaker 7: I'm still.

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Speaker 1: Chuck them out.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm still heavy enough that there's still a lot

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Speaker 4: I think even jiu jitsu matches start on the feet

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Speaker 1: So his jiu JITs is going so well that it's gone.

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Speaker 1: How's that? Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Right, come on, Jeorde, you're not you're not still training?

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Speaker 4: No, I am not active at this time, but that

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Speaker 4: bully is the right verb, because I don't want to

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Speaker 6: That's a lifestyle.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's what he keep saying. That's the best.

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Speaker 6: This is a coat. You didn't buy into the colt.

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Speaker 1: No, no, Mike, We're gonna get him, right, We're gonna

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Speaker 4: I have the best smelling geese in South Florida because

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 5: You know when I first started doing jiu jitsu, Sarah

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Speaker 6: Probably twenty, and he was did you train today? Did

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Speaker 8: Did you ref?

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Speaker 6: Did your ref? Did you train? Did your ref?

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Speaker 5: I didn't do any of this guy was. He was

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Speaker 5: I mean, he just the repetitions he I guess he

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Speaker 6: Good reason, Kenny. I mean I was in the room

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Speaker 5: I mean, there wasn't anybody that guy wasn't destroying back

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Speaker 6: He was a juggernaut.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he really was phenomenal. It was a pleasure watching

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Speaker 4: The whole I was going to say, he work some

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Speaker 5: We're gonna have to have a couple of safe words

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Speaker 6: You're gonna save me. We know we have to go

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Speaker 5: This is uh, I'm already my heart's already beat you

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Speaker 4: I bet, I bet well. I'll be backstage. You will

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Speaker 4: you'll have a prompter, Okay, so that you put you

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, either, I will be able to see it. I'm blind,

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Speaker 5: but that'll be good.

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Speaker 6: All right.

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Speaker 4: We'll make sure you get a haircut before that July

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Speaker 4: trip and uh, look as always.

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Speaker 6: Budd Wait, wait, I have let us? Is it let

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Speaker 1: Yeah? It's let us along the sides, right, we just

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Speaker 6: All right, let me go tow us my sally. I'm

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Speaker 4: Thank you, buddy, to you next week.

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Speaker 7: All right.

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Speaker 1: He's a mad man, oh fuddy.

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Speaker 4: We were the one ones who cast him initially. We

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Speaker 1: He fought halfay Alasansau. It was a very very close fight.

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Speaker 1: It was actually a fight I thought he was gonna

443
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Speaker 1: get the nod. Certainly could have gone either way, and

444
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Speaker 1: it didn't get any easier for him. John Daunson a

445
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Speaker 1: guy that is very tough to fight. No one wants

446
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Speaker 1: to face him. He went out there and won that fight.

447
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Speaker 1: Then he went against al Jamaine Sterling, an excellent grappler,

448
00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,480
Speaker 1: a tough stylistic matchup for him, went out there and

449
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Speaker 1: knocked him out. Then you get Jimmy Rivera, a guy

450
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Speaker 1: from a wrestling background who has serious knockout power, number

451
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Speaker 1: four ranked fighter in the world, you know, a pretty

452
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Speaker 1: quick turnaround for all four of these fights, and he

453
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Speaker 1: goes out there and knocks him out in under a minute.

454
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Speaker 1: Are you kidding? It's just unbelievable what he has done

455
00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:44,959
Speaker 1: and how much energy he's injected into this division, and

456
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Speaker 1: now he's confused things even more. But either way, I mean,

457
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Speaker 1: how can you not get giddy about potential matchups between him,

458
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Speaker 1: Dominic Cruz, TJ. Dillashaw, and Cody Garbrand. Those four at

459
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Speaker 1: the top just ridiculous. I don't I want to ignore half

460
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Speaker 1: Fiela Sunsew. I think that's the rematch that I think

461
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Speaker 1: a lot of people would like to see myself included.

462
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Speaker 1: He should be in the conversation as well, But as

463
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Speaker 1: far as those top four guys, just ridiculous.

464
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Speaker 4: Yeah, half A Ela Sunso always seems to be the

465
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Speaker 4: forgotten man, and I'm glad you sort of injected him

466
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Speaker 4: into that conversation. But when I talked to Marlon and

467
00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:23,359
Speaker 4: Ice before the fight, he said, nothing's guaranteed in this sport, right,

468
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Speaker 4: I really got to just go out and beat this

469
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Speaker 4: guy who's won twenty fights in a row. I think

470
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Speaker 4: very highly of this opponent and ideally finish him. But

471
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Speaker 4: I don't even know that in Marlin's wildest dream, Kenny,

472
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Speaker 4: he would have produced this type of result and almost

473
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Speaker 4: guaranteed himself a title shot. Because given what you said

474
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Speaker 4: about the pecking order at one hundred and thirty five

475
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Speaker 4: pounds and the fact that you have Cody and TJ

476
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Speaker 4: coming up on August fourth, Dominic Cruz is sort of

477
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Speaker 4: still lurking a little bit, and I guess he could

478
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Speaker 4: make an argument to get the winner of that fight

479
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Speaker 4: for sure. To knock out Jimmy Rivera, who had won

480
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Speaker 4: twenty in a row and thirty three seconds eliminates a

481
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Speaker 4: lot of the gray area in this division. And I

482
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Speaker 4: think even for a guy like Halfa Ayela Sunsu, he's

483
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Speaker 4: got a thing. Man. This is the one thing I

484
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Speaker 4: couldn't afford to have happen, to have Marl and Weiss

485
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Speaker 4: go out there and make it so decisive and so quick.

486
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Speaker 4: We're going to table that thought for a minute, because

487
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Speaker 4: we are going right back to Garden City, New York.

488
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Speaker 4: Good friend of the program former you have seen middleweight champion,

489
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Speaker 4: father of Free, host of Wideman's World on MSG Networks.

490
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Speaker 4: Chris Widman is with us. Chris, appreciate a few minutes. Man, Ah, wow,

491
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Speaker 4: do you play the guitar?

492
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Speaker 1: Dude?

493
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Speaker 7: Just one of the many things I do?

494
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Speaker 4: Yes, Slee, this guy, I mean.

495
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Speaker 9: I I haven't actually touched this in a long time,

496
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Speaker 9: but he is very good guitar player.

497
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Speaker 1: Ray Is this guy does it all.

498
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Speaker 9: We have to relationship with him teaching me how to

499
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Speaker 9: play the guitar, and then then he stops trying.

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Speaker 7: Wow.

501
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Speaker 4: Yeah, so we'll have to get along to play the guitar.

502
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Speaker 5: So uh.

503
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Speaker 4: Sorry, man, there's a little delay. I will say it

504
00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:58,920
Speaker 4: was great to see you this weekend. I'm not sure though,

505
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Speaker 4: that you're getting not dominated for Father of the Year. Dude,

506
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Speaker 4: you got cj Oh, there's Longo again. Here we go?

507
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Speaker 4: Can flow?

508
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Speaker 1: Ah?

509
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Speaker 7: Did you cut me him? Come on?

510
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Speaker 1: I know?

511
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Speaker 9: Yeah, but Longo you did have a minute at first

512
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Speaker 9: when this show first started with you.

513
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Speaker 7: You did what you went fifteen minutes. So I don't

514
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Speaker 7: like it.

515
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Speaker 4: Well, at least we led with Longo. Imagine how upset

516
00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:28,280
Speaker 4: he would have been if we put him after you.

517
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Speaker 4: But I say that of.

518
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Speaker 7: Course he requested this.

519
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Speaker 1: Hey seer the back.

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Speaker 9: Longo when he was three hundred pounds with Kevin James.

521
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Speaker 9: I can't believe before and after.

522
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Speaker 4: Man, it's a basic He's a welterweight now. So I

523
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Speaker 4: joked about you not being Father of the Year. You're

524
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Speaker 4: a tremendous father. Of course, I joked becausej was in

525
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Speaker 4: the lobby, you know, fighting off the sleep at one

526
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Speaker 4: o'clock in the morning. But hey, John Bealante's fighting CJ

527
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Speaker 4: is front and center. Man, Thank you man.

528
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Speaker 7: I appreciate that. Yeah, it was my son.

529
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Speaker 9: He's definitely like I would never imagine bringing my my

530
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 9: five year old to a UFC fight. I don't even

531
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Speaker 9: know if I would think that's okay to do. But

532
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Speaker 9: my son, he's, uh, he's pretty mature for a five

533
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Speaker 9: year old, and he loves he loves fighting. He loves

534
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Speaker 9: his uncle John, and uh, he kind of understands it.

535
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Speaker 9: So we brought him and he had he had the

536
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Speaker 9: time of his life. I mean, he got a day

537
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Speaker 9: off of school, came, he came with his mom, flew

538
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Speaker 9: out to Utica and was able to you know, so

539
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Speaker 9: they spent some time together and then was able to sit.

540
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Speaker 9: You know, Kate started to watch watch the fights, so

541
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Speaker 9: he had a time of his life and.

542
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Speaker 4: They showed him on camera and everything. So speaking of

543
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Speaker 4: Uncle John, and then we're going to get to everything

544
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Speaker 4: that you've got going on. But for John Belante, this

545
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Speaker 4: was obviously a tough one to swallow.

546
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Speaker 1: Man.

547
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Speaker 4: You know, he falls to six and seven in the UFC.

548
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Speaker 4: Most people that I talked to thought he did enough

549
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Speaker 4: to win the fight. Oh I know, I know, yeah,

550
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Speaker 4: I think he's six and seven in the UFC. If

551
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Speaker 4: I'm not mistaken, I think he came in at five hundred.

552
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Speaker 4: But you don't mince words with him, whether it's in

553
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Speaker 4: the corner or after the fact. I mean, what did

554
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Speaker 4: you say to him after the fact, and what did

555
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Speaker 4: you think about the fight?

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Speaker 9: You know, I thought he won the fight. Yeah, I

557
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Speaker 9: don't think it was his best performance at all. There's

558
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Speaker 9: a there's a bunch of things that go through my

559
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,439
Speaker 9: head with that fight, because Sam Alby does bring an

560
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Speaker 9: interesting problem to the table when you fight him. Number One,

561
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Speaker 9: he's very I think he's just very frustrating the fight

562
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Speaker 9: because I don't feel like he's the most athletically gifted.

563
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Speaker 9: He doesn't look like he's the most polished striker, but

564
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Speaker 9: but he does pose a lot of problems because he

565
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Speaker 9: won't go away. He's very tough. It's not like, you know,

566
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Speaker 9: you see a guy like that, you feel like you

567
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Speaker 9: should just go out there and kill him. But he

568
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Speaker 9: sticks around, and he could frustrates you and then before

569
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Speaker 9: you know it, you're you're you're starting to you know,

570
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Speaker 9: get your ass kicked. So you have to really stay

571
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Speaker 9: focused and keep your composure. And he's a very good counterpuncher.

572
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Speaker 9: And Belante is a type of fighter who likes to

573
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Speaker 9: get off first and walk forward. So it was an

574
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Speaker 9: interesting matchup stylistic. You know, John had also had gotten

575
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Speaker 9: knocked out by his one knockout. I feel like it's

576
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Speaker 9: from Tom Mohler and another southpaw, and he hit he

577
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Speaker 9: hit Valante when he was coming in with the right

578
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Speaker 9: hand with his with the right hook from a southball

579
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Speaker 9: position and that's that was that was sam Alvi's that's

580
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Speaker 9: sam Alvis's biggest punch is his.

581
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Speaker 7: Right hook from southpaw and and and off the counter.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 9: So there was a lot going on in that fight

584
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Speaker 9: that most people might have not realized it was definitely

585
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Speaker 9: was a chess match. I feel like Valante was dominating

586
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Speaker 9: the first round. Probably the most dominant in the fight

587
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Speaker 9: was that round, and then he got clipped at the

588
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Speaker 9: end of the last ten seconds and.

589
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Speaker 7: Lost that round.

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Speaker 9: And he kind of he was really dominating that round

591
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Speaker 9: with kicks, and I feel like he kind of got

592
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Speaker 9: away from his kicks. But I still think that in

593
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Speaker 9: the second, third round he won, but it was close

594
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Speaker 9: enough to where you can't say he got screwed. I

595
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Speaker 9: don't feel like, you know, either way, It's like someone

596
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Speaker 9: was going to be upset with the decision either way.

597
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Speaker 4: So Longo just said that he feels like maybe this

598
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Speaker 4: will be a wake up call and that he would

599
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Speaker 4: really like to see John at least present the threat

600
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Speaker 4: of the takedown, especially in matchups like this. As some

601
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Speaker 4: of our listeners may know, this is a guy who

602
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Speaker 4: won a high school, you know, state wrestling title in

603
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Speaker 4: New York. I mean, how feasible is that that that

604
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Speaker 4: John would try to mix it up a little bit

605
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Speaker 4: now moving forward in the UFC.

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Speaker 9: So, I actually spoke to John this morning and this

607
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Speaker 9: is what I said to him. You know, it's kind

608
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Speaker 9: of still early after the fight.

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Speaker 7: I don't want to, you know, I don't want to

610
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Speaker 7: you know, be.

611
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Speaker 9: Overly critical at this point, but I did say, you know,

612
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Speaker 9: I think it's a good opportunity for wake up call

613
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Speaker 9: pretty much because, uh, for a lot, for a lot

614
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Speaker 9: of his last fights, he was kind of getting in

615
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Speaker 9: the mindset that wrestling is boring, and I don't like

616
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Speaker 9: to put on boring fights. So that's why I stand up.

617
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Speaker 9: And I just feel like that's not the smartest mentality

618
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Speaker 9: to have. I think if he would have was going

619
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Speaker 9: to hit a takedown in that fight, people actually would

620
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Speaker 9: have been more exciting. You know.

621
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Speaker 7: People want to see things that they don't expected.

622
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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 9: Even that was a complete stand up fight, it wasn't

624
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Speaker 9: the most I didn't fight at all, So I feel

625
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 9: like being able to mix things up is very important.

626
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Speaker 9: I hope this is a wake up cluot for him

627
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 9: because he does have really good wrestling. He's a very

628
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 9: strong guy, and on the feet when you're standing up,

629
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Speaker 9: I feel like strength isn't as much of a factor

630
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Speaker 9: as it is when it's a grappling, when it turns

631
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 9: into grappling, So I think it would be really beneficial

632
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,359
Speaker 9: for him to use the takedowns and let's say, you know,

633
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Speaker 9: if he doesn't submit the guy, if he exerts a

634
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 9: little extra energy, I mean, he's winning those rounds and

635
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Speaker 9: I take down to any one of those rounds is

636
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Speaker 9: winning him that fight. And so it's kind of I

637
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 9: feel like he really has to It's not something you

638
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 9: can tell him, you know, the day of the fight

639
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 9: and start to saying, you know, let's go, let's get

640
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:39,640
Speaker 9: some takedowns.

641
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Speaker 7: It has to be saying a program in his head.

642
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Speaker 9: For the full camp, and he needs to be going

643
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Speaker 9: for it and being persistent with it and not being

644
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 9: afraid to do it because a lot of guys get

645
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Speaker 9: worried about getting tired, you know when you go for

646
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,199
Speaker 9: takedowns and not able to be successful with it. So

647
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 9: I feel like that's something that he has to get

648
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Speaker 9: over and I think, I hope this is a wake

649
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Speaker 9: up clot for him so he starts utilizing his wrestling.

650
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Speaker 1: Chris, I want to switch gears a little bit. Talk

651
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 1: about you. How is your thumb post surgery, man, and

652
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:09,399
Speaker 1: do you have any potential dates that you're looking at

653
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 1: it when you could be back?

654
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Speaker 7: So I just got done with physical therapy this morning

655
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Speaker 7: my thumb.

656
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Speaker 9: Last week I got my cast off and they did

657
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Speaker 9: an X ray. The actually I came back, it was

658
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 9: one hundred percent heel. The doctor said, it's better, better

659
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 9: than even I thought it was gonna look. And then

660
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Speaker 9: they did a cat scan to double check. And really

661
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 9: that's how you can really tell the bones because I

662
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 9: got to add.

663
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 7: A fusion, so my bones are fusing together where they

664
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Speaker 7: took my hippone and put in my thumb.

665
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Speaker 1: Wow.

666
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 9: And then based on the catskin, it looks it looks amazing,

667
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 9: it looks great, it looks like it's fully healed. So

668
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 9: he said, just for the next three weeks, kind of

669
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Speaker 9: take it easy, don't go crazy. And he thinks I'm

670
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 9: gonna be good to go. And I you know, when

671
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 9: I was out in Utica, I hit pads a few

672
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 9: times with Mark Henry and and Anderson, Marlon Moras's coach,

673
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 9: and you know, I was being careful.

674
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Speaker 7: Of my hand, but it felt.

675
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Speaker 9: It feels great to be coming back and on the mend,

676
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Speaker 9: and I can see the light at the end of

677
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Speaker 9: the tunnel finally, because you know, after the first surgery,

678
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 9: it was really hard to see the light at the

679
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Speaker 9: end of the tunnel because if they were telling they

680
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 9: were telling me that it was scar tissue, the pain

681
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 9: I was feeling, and if that was something I was

682
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Speaker 9: gonna have to deal with for the rest of my career,

683
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Speaker 9: I don't know how I was gonna do it, because

684
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Speaker 9: it was it was miserable.

685
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 7: Thank god, it wasn't just scar tissue.

686
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 9: It was my bones breaking apart, because that's something that

687
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 9: you got to get fixed. And uh so I did

688
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Speaker 9: and now i feel like I'm in a really good

689
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Speaker 9: spot and I'm excited for the future.

690
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Speaker 1: That's wild man. So listen, what what can you do

691
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 1: with that hand? At this point you said you were

692
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 1: hitting pads. Were you hitting pads with that hand? Are

693
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: you able to grab or grapple with that with that

694
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Speaker 1: hand yet?

695
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 6: Uh?

696
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Speaker 9: I think he said for the next three weeks, don't go,

697
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 9: don't do crazy grappling. But I started drilling, and I

698
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 9: worked with Jamal Patterson when I was on Unica two.

699
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 9: We did I drill jiu jitsu for the first time

700
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 9: in a while, and I'm using my hand. It's not painful,

701
00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 9: it feels great, but I feel like, you know, I

702
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 9: think we will know when you've been.

703
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 7: In this sport long enough.

704
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 9: Right when you feel amazing is when you're probably at

705
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 9: most danger of re injuring something. So I have right

706
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 9: now is where I really have to show patients. And

707
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 9: and so I'm doing. I'm doing a lot though, I

708
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 9: mean a lot of old strength and conditioning stuff. So

709
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 9: now I'm starting to finally lift again. I'm trying to

710
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 9: get my muscles back in that arm. It's been almost

711
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 9: ten months to where I could really use it. So

712
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Speaker 9: I did curls the other day and some chest stuff

713
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 9: and stuff I haven't been able to do for a while.

714
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Speaker 9: And holy crap, as I saw it, but I feel

715
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 9: it feels good, man, It feels good to be back.

716
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Speaker 7: This is what my thumb looks like, just so you

717
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Speaker 7: get a visual.

718
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Speaker 4: I don't know, Okay, yeah, no, it looks a lot better.

719
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Speaker 4: I mean I remember it several months ago, and that

720
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 4: doctor Frankenstein scar.

721
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Speaker 9: Yes, I mean I thought everything's out to scoptic at

722
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Speaker 9: this point.

723
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 7: It's crazy.

724
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 1: Open it up with an axe?

725
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 7: Yeah right?

726
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 1: Wait was it doctor Longo? Did he do the surgery?

727
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 6: Why are you guys making fun of my surgery? Yeah?

728
00:30:58,400 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 6: This is horrible.

729
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 7: They did it all he did old school.

730
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 4: Man Ray Longo just cannot get enough.

731
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 6: I can't you guys. I feel like you snubbed me

732
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 6: for him today and I'm not leaving.

733
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 7: You can't let me shine?

734
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 5: I guess.

735
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 9: Uh, finally, you guys never had me on your podcast.

736
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 9: I'm finally here and longos I'm sharing.

737
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 4: A long ago all right. I feel like you always

738
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 4: have to share the mic. Last time we had you

739
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 4: in a car with Steven Wonner Boy Thompson. I mean,

740
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 4: maybe we just need to give Chris Widman his own

741
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 4: monthly minute or something like that, but real quickly, because

742
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 4: Robert Whittaker and Joel Romero are fighting for a second

743
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 4: time this weekend, and I sort of feel like if

744
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 4: I'm team Widman, the result that I want is a

745
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 4: Robert Whittaker win because that is the fresh matchup. And

746
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 4: in my opinion, you are are the biggest needle mover

747
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 4: in this division. You bring more pay per view eyeballs

748
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 4: than anyone in that top five. You beat a guy

749
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 4: in Kelvin Gastolm finished him. Uh, and he's the other

750
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 4: guy with all the momentum. I mean, are you team

751
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 4: Whittaker this weekend or is it not that simple?

752
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 6: You know?

753
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 7: I guess, I guess you.

754
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 9: I mean, if the UFC was to tell me that

755
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 9: Whittaker wins, I have the title shot as opposed to

756
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 9: Yoa Merrow winning, I'm not having obviously I'm Robert Whittaker.

757
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 7: Uh, but I really I don't have.

758
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 9: Any control of that, and that's not what I'm hearing.

759
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 9: And but I mean it makes sense what you're saying.

760
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 9: So I guess I should be team Whittaker. But I

761
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 9: wouldn't mind the Yoa Maroo rematch too, so we'll see.

762
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 9: I mean, it's an interesting thing.

763
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 10: You know.

764
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Speaker 9: I'm coming off an injury where for Gastlm in my

765
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 9: last fight. Uh, And he's the guy that you know

766
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 9: everyone's talking about could be fighting for the title next,

767
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 9: and I'm ranked ahead of him and finished him last

768
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 9: in my last fight.

769
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 7: So I mean, I really do have a good case

770
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 7: to fight for.

771
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 9: The title next. And it's it's kind of an interesting thing.

772
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 9: I don't really don't know this. This fight should be good.

773
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 9: I could see Whittaker winning again too, so yeah, I

774
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 9: don't know.

775
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 4: So you do lean towards Robert Wing He's about a

776
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 4: two to one favorite. I know you're a betting man.

777
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 4: I'll admit to being surprised that Joel Romero was as

778
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 4: high as plus one ninety five in some spots this morning.

779
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 4: Do you think the fights as wide as that betting

780
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 4: line indicates, or are you expecting it to be close

781
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 4: as the first matchup was so.

782
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Speaker 9: That I mean, there's a couple of things that go

783
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 9: through my head. Well, I mean, why are those odds

784
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 9: makers making that I did? Is he is he starting

785
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 9: to finally look like he's forty years old and we

786
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 9: haven't seen it. I don't know he's last time I

787
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 9: seen him, he still look pretty damn jacked.

788
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, And I.

789
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 9: Mean he does get tired. But he's coming up a

790
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 9: good win against Luke Rockold. But Whinaker has a good

791
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 9: style against him. You know, he's not afraid to be patient,

792
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 9: and he lets the fight you know, kind of last

793
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 9: for a while.

794
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 7: He'll counter only when it really is there. I don't

795
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 7: think he you know.

796
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 9: He's not putting himself in danger's way too often, and

797
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 9: the longer the fight goes definitely better in his favor.

798
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Speaker 9: I will still say, I will give you over Meri

799
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 9: credit though he's still very dangerous in later rounds. Even

800
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 9: though even even though he could be taking his time

801
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 9: getting off the stool, and he looks exhausted. He's still

802
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 9: very dangerous at all times. So I mean, in my

803
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,320
Speaker 9: in my mind, I feel like Yo Americ could obviously

804
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 9: just go out there and land a big shot and

805
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:17,839
Speaker 9: finish him.

806
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 7: But I think the odds.

807
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 9: Are right in the in the fact that you know,

808
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 9: the longer the fight goes, it's probably more probable that

809
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:24,399
Speaker 9: Whitker would win.

810
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, last thing, Widman's World MSG Networks is

811
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:30,359
Speaker 4: pretty good, man. I watched some of it this morning.

812
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 4: Skate with the New York Islanders. Is that still going on?

813
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,720
Speaker 4: How does that work? How often are you shooting Widman's World?

814
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 7: It's not too often. Maybe once every two months.

815
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:44,800
Speaker 9: I've been doing it, and I have I have another

816
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 9: one that we're we're going to be shooting soon and

817
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 9: they and they want to change the segment to a

818
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 9: half an hour and stead of these short short segments.

819
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 9: So it's pretty cool and it's awesome stuff, man, like

820
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 9: that one that I got to Skate with Islanders. I'm

821
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 9: a lifelong New York Islander fan, and so to be

822
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 9: able to I thought I was going to be in

823
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 9: New York Islander when I was a kid. So to

824
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,240
Speaker 9: be able to skate with those guys and play hockey

825
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:05,439
Speaker 9: with them is like a drink.

826
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Speaker 7: Come Drew. It was so much fun. They're so so

827
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 7: so damn good.

828
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Speaker 6: It's crazy.

829
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Speaker 4: All right. Last thing we give away money on this podcast. Okay,

830
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,360
Speaker 4: fifty bucks is yours if you can correctly tell me

831
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 4: who wins this weekend interim UFC welchway title fight. Half

832
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:25,839
Speaker 4: Fayel dos Aos Colby Covington RDA very slight favorite right now,

833
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 4: closest fight on the card according to Vegas. You're going

834
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 4: RDA or Kolbe Chaos.

835
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,359
Speaker 7: I'll go RDA, all right.

836
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 4: Half a Hel dos Aos and we'll send you fifty

837
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 4: bucks if you win. Formed UFC midweight champ Chris Wyman

838
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 4: could get the winner this weekend's title fight between Robert

839
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,840
Speaker 4: Whitaker and Joel Romero, and maybe even at MSG before

840
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 4: we close the book on twenty eighteen. Appreciate your time, man,

841
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 4: Good to see you in Utica there, and we hope

842
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:50,879
Speaker 4: to see you back in the octagon soon.

843
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 7: But thanks so much, awesome, thanks guys, thanks for having

844
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 7: me on.

845
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 4: All Right, there, he is Chris Wyman here on the

846
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 4: Nice Flooring Podcast. So I give these parents a lot

847
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 4: of credit bringing their kids to you UFC events, you know,

848
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 4: till one o'clock in the morning. Nothing easy about it,

849
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 4: but CJ behaved and power to him. But it is

850
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 4: interesting when you look at the pecking order in this

851
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 4: middleway division. Chris said, that's not what he's hearing. So

852
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,359
Speaker 4: maybe he's hearing Jacka d Soza. That was the fight

853
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 4: that that long ago kept talking about, So maybe that's

854
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 4: the fight Widman versus Soza. Despite the fact that Jacka's

855
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 4: coming off the loss, maybe Kelvin Gasolm will be next

856
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 4: for the winner of Robert Whitaker and Joel Romero. I

857
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 4: know you saw Gastolm this weekend. I mean, I guess

858
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,800
Speaker 4: we have to see how this fight plays out. Because

859
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 4: Romero wins, you could be staring at a trilogy a

860
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 4: lot of different things. But Widman, on the strength of

861
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,439
Speaker 4: a win and a finish over Kelvin Gastolom, who now

862
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 4: has all this momentum, you'd have to say he's at

863
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 4: least in the conversation.

864
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 1: I think so listen. I think based on what Chris

865
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 1: has done being the former champion, beating Kelvin Gaslm, it

866
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 1: does get tricky. However, you know, I think for fans

867
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,359
Speaker 1: and for the UFC, they want to see some kind

868
00:36:55,400 --> 00:37:00,839
Speaker 1: of momentum, which obviously Kelvin has, right, I think right now,

869
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: so tough situation, tough situation, especially Chris coming off an injury,

870
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 1: they probably want to see him get another win. And

871
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: then I think, especially with a win over someone like

872
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 1: a Jackha Ray Sosa, that would certainly put him in

873
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:13,839
Speaker 1: a position to fight for the belt next.

874
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 4: And if you're asking me who has a stronger case,

875
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 4: Chris Wiman or Calvin Gasolim based upon the schedule and

876
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 4: the competition, I would say Kelvin Gasolim, right because to

877
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 4: your point, he has two wins over Michael Bispaying the

878
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879
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,920
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881
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882
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,200
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883
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Speaker 4: ken Flow, So Marlon Medics, Jimmy Rivera. We have the

909
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Speaker 4: fight August fourth, Cody Garbrandt and TJ. Dillashaw. That's the

910
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 4: second meeting between those two guys, and I guess in

911
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 4: theory code he wins. Maybe they run it back Dominic Cruz,

912
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 4: Hafey Ela Sunsao. But Marlon Marice, right, I think his

913
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 4: next fight's going to be for the championship. I'm not

914
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,839
Speaker 4: sure exactly how it's going to play out, but one

915
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:12,879
Speaker 4: way or another, I think Marlin, but Ice doesn't sign

916
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 4: another bout agreement that doesn't say UFC Bantam Waight Championship

917
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 4: of the World.

918
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 1: It's possible, man, I listen. Does he deserve it? Sure,

919
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 1: But there's another guy, Dominic Cruz, who's been waiting for

920
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 1: a long time as well. And you know, as far

921
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 1: as marketing and all that stuff, I think Dominic, you know,

922
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 1: is going to be able to pull in big numbers

923
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 1: with whether it's TJ or Cody, maybe even more over Marlin,

924
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 1: you know, but as far as cutting your own promo,

925
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 1: I mean, Marlon Morice has already done that just in

926
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 1: his last two fights. He's an exciting fighter. He's a

927
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 1: guy who goes out and looks for the knockout all

928
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:54,280
Speaker 1: the time, dynamic as any fighter in the UFC period.

929
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Speaker 1: So I don't think it's a sure thing at all.

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00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 1: Especially again, if Cody wins that fight, they got into

931
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 1: the trilogy, they got to finish that out. I think

932
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 1: that's the direction they would probably head and then you know,

933
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Speaker 1: maybe have him fight Dominic. You know in the meantime, again,

934
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 1: all those fights, all those fights are fantastic. Why do

935
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Speaker 1: you think that would.

936
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 4: Be Well, it sounds like you maybe would be okay

937
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 4: with sort of penalizing Wideman more than penalizing crews for

938
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 4: the inactivity, right. I mean, I don't believe Dominic fought

939
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:30,439
Speaker 4: at all in twenty seventeen, right, whereas Widman at least

940
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 4: just fought last summer. So it seems to me, with

941
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 4: all due respect and Dominic Cruz probably my best friend

942
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 4: on the roster, but I think he's going to be

943
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 4: penalized for the inactivity. And I think when you do

944
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 4: what Marlon but Ice just did, and when you're a

945
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 4: finisher like this, I think he's almost impossible to deny.

946
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 4: And honestly, Kenny, I didn't think this was necessarily at

947
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 4: stake for Marlon, but Ice going into this fight because

948
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 4: of the loss to Hafeye Ella Sansaw a few fights ago.

949
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 4: But here's a guy who has now fought four times, right,

950
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 4: his UFC debut was a year ago yesterday, And I

951
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 4: just think that that you go out and do this.

952
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 4: I really believe Marlin's going to be next.

953
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Speaker 7: Now.

954
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 4: Of course, Cody could put a wrench into that, and

955
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 4: if he finishes TJ, there is that. But I also

956
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 4: think Cody Garbrand's a guy who has a champion said

957
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 4: he sort of wanted to stay active, and if we

958
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 4: get a quick result here, you know, maybe that trilogy

959
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 4: gets delayed a little bit. In Marlin's the guy. I

960
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 4: don't know. I just think that Marlin's going to be

961
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 4: rewarded for what he did this week.

962
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Speaker 1: You make a strong point. I think his best bet, though, John,

963
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,359
Speaker 1: will be if one of these guys get injured. Knock

964
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Speaker 1: on wood, everybody, yeah, right, you know, if one of

965
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 1: these guys gets injured going into it, and again to

966
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 1: your point, I think with Dominick's injuries and kind of

967
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 1: you know, that roller coaster ride that he's been on

968
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 1: man for the last several years. I guess you could say,

969
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 1: you know, the UC would probably rely heavily on someone

970
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:49,800
Speaker 1: like a Marlon Morice who hasn't been injured at this point,

971
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 1: you know, to step in there for the title fight,

972
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 1: which is unfortunate for Dominic with everything he's done in

973
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 1: the sport. So it is tricky. It is tricky, But

974
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 1: I have a hard time believing that either Marlin or

975
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 1: Dominic would hop in there. If Cody does get the

976
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 1: win here against TJ, which is of course possible with

977
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 1: both those guys with that kind of firepower heading into

978
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,800
Speaker 1: that title fight, it's going to be interesting.

979
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:14,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. And one hundred

980
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 4: and thirty five pounds is certainly healthy and certainly better

981
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 4: with Marlon, but I in it. And UFC two twenty

982
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 4: seven is exactly two months from today here we are

983
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 4: June four, August four. One way or another, there's going

984
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 4: to be a bandam Way title fight that brings us

985
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 4: to Jimmy Rivera Kenny And you know, I know there

986
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 4: have been some shenanigans and even some stuff that wasn't

987
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 4: reported that happened outside of this fight after the fact,

988
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 4: between these two corners, not just the video that you saw,

989
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 4: but by and large, Jimmy Rivera is a real classy

990
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 4: guy and his wife's very classy, and he won twenty

991
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 4: straight fights in modern day mixed martial arts, and I

992
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 4: think this is a lesson in a lot of things, right.

993
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 4: And you noticed Tiger Schulman immediately went into teaching mode

994
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 4: after the fight to tell Jimmy what he did wrong,

995
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 4: and obviously he It wasn't a lot shot in my opinion,

996
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 4: right defensively, Jimmy, there was an opening and Marlon went

997
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 4: right through it. But I think for Jimmy this has

998
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 4: got to be awfully difficult. You know, you didn't get

999
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 4: the Dominic Cruz fight. Maybe you weren't all in on

1000
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:13,879
Speaker 4: them at ice fight, but you accept that fight. It's

1001
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 4: a main event and before you can even have any

1002
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 4: sort of feeling out, the fight's over.

1003
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 1: It was a tough one for him. It was definitely

1004
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,399
Speaker 1: a tough one for him. He's a guy who has

1005
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 1: had an amazing win streak in the sport. Just the

1006
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 1: fact that he was able to get twenty consecutive wins

1007
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 1: in a sport where so many things could go wrong.

1008
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 1: It is just amazing. Unfortunately for him, this past Friday

1009
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 1: night was one of those nights where things went wrong

1010
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 1: again for him and he got caught against one of

1011
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 1: the best strikers in the division. Okay, there's no shame

1012
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 1: in that it happened early on. Sometimes Jimmy, you know,

1013
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 1: gets off to a little bit of a slow start.

1014
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 1: Once he finds his rhythm, Jimmy's a very hard guy

1015
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:55,839
Speaker 1: to stop it. And I agree with you. I think

1016
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 1: he's a very respectful guy. He's a classy individual. He's

1017
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 1: a true martial artist. I really was impressed with the

1018
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:06,839
Speaker 1: Shulman brothers and what they've done with their team and

1019
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:10,800
Speaker 1: how they went immediately into coach mode, as you said,

1020
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 1: after the fight, to kind of tell him what he

1021
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 1: did wrong and show him exactly what happened. And I

1022
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 1: think he's going to be back. He's going to be

1023
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 1: stronger than ever. He's a guy that could still win

1024
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 1: a belt in that division. He's not old. He's a

1025
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 1: guy who is a martial artist, who's always improving, always evolving.

1026
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 1: And this is one of those performances where you look

1027
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 1: back and you go, Okay, well, maybe not as good

1028
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 1: as I think or I thought it was, and I

1029
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:41,359
Speaker 1: have to always be ready in every single fight. And

1030
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 1: I think we'll see Jimmy Rivera back and we'll see

1031
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 1: him back in the wind call.

1032
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 4: I think you summed it up well. I think he

1033
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 4: handled the loss well after the fact. I mean his

1034
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 4: chin was up. I don't even think he was sort

1035
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 4: of crying backstage, right. I think he just sort of

1036
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:56,839
Speaker 4: chalked it up to a little mistake that he made

1037
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 4: and he paid the ultimate price. But it's gonna be

1038
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 4: interesting to see how they spin him forward, because I

1039
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 4: think if you're Jimmy Rivera, you go full core press

1040
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 4: trying to get that Domina Cruz fight back. And I

1041
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:08,399
Speaker 4: actually think that that's what's gonna happen. I think they're

1042
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 4: gonna do Rivera and Cruz again because that fight was

1043
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,760
Speaker 4: set up and agreed to once before. But crazy, crazy

1044
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,360
Speaker 4: main event. You know, we've obviously been in those seats

1045
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 4: calling these fights, Kenny for a long time, and I

1046
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 4: just can remember very few instances where I've been so

1047
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 4: surprised and literally jumping out of my suits. So congratulations

1048
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 4: to Mark Henry, to Frank Edgar Cardowell, Mada, Marlon but

1049
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 4: I and the entire team. Gregor Gillespie is one of

1050
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 4: the best lightweights in the world. He doesn't have a

1051
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 4: number next to his name right now, twelve and oh

1052
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 4: after submitting Vince Pachelle with his patented arm triangle choke. Kenny,

1053
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,720
Speaker 4: he's five and oh in the UFC four consecutive finishes,

1054
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 4: a bonus in three of them. And I know you

1055
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 4: have acknowledged that this is not a flawless fighter. This

1056
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 4: is a fighter that makes some mistakes, and you saw

1057
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,399
Speaker 4: even Poschelle touched him a few times in this fight

1058
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 4: and seems to cut kind of easily. But Kenny, I've

1059
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 4: been talking about Gregor Gillespie for a long time, and

1060
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 4: when we talk about the best lightweights in the world

1061
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 4: and some of the guys who might pose a threat

1062
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 4: to Kabib Nirmago Metov, I feel like Gillespie doesn't sort

1063
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 4: of get mentioned in that class because he is a

1064
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 4: developing fighter and he only turned pro in twenty fourteen

1065
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 4: because of a devastating injury that delayed his pro debut

1066
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 4: two years. But Gregor Gillespie is a total beast man

1067
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 4: and I cannot wait to see him take his shots

1068
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 4: at this division's elaite because I think he'll be very

1069
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:27,359
Speaker 4: competitive with most of them.

1070
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 1: Double G. That's what I'm calling him, Gregor Gillespie. Double G.

1071
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 1: You know, this is the guy that I've been hearing

1072
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 1: about for a very long time just because of his

1073
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:38,439
Speaker 1: kind of legendary training sessions. This is the guy who

1074
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 1: just stays on you, man like a blanket is conditioning

1075
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 1: is legendary, you know, from when I'm hearing this guy

1076
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 1: puts a pace on the road that is just insane

1077
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 1: for several miles. So he's in tremendous shape mentally, very

1078
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 1: very strong athlete physically of course as well. Got power

1079
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 1: with his hands, and again he beats guys with his

1080
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 1: will more often than not. He's gonna grind you out

1081
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 1: with that wrestling pedigree. And I agree he's one of

1082
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 1: the few guys who match up style wise with Habib Normaga.

1083
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 1: Medoff has a very similar style to Habib. I would

1084
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 1: say his submissions are even sharper for sure. Definitely has

1085
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 1: a better submission game than Habib, a better finisher potentially

1086
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 1: than Habib. Is he as big and is he as

1087
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 1: strong as Habib? I'm not so sure. Is he as

1088
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,439
Speaker 1: great of a wrestler as Habib? I'm not so sure.

1089
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:34,359
Speaker 1: It's one of those fights that I think or one

1090
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 1: of those things that we will find out when they

1091
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 1: actually fight. But Gregor Gillespie is a guy that I

1092
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:42,320
Speaker 1: guarantee you no one in that division wants to face.

1093
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 1: Why he's not a top ten guy yet I think

1094
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 1: he's creeping up that ladder and style wise, you don't

1095
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 1: want to deal with someone like that. No one wants

1096
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:53,320
Speaker 1: to fight Habib Rmaga Medof unless it's for a belt,

1097
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 1: right or you know now that he has a belt,

1098
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 1: and no one wants to fight Gregor Gillespie. Now he

1099
00:47:58,160 --> 00:47:59,799
Speaker 1: has stepped into that role as kind of the new

1100
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 1: Beingmaga Medoff. Yeah, I think especially once he sharpens up

1101
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 1: defensively and he gets his head moving, he gets his

1102
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 1: feet moving a little bit better, he mixes up his

1103
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 1: strikes a little bit. That guy he could absolutely win

1104
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 1: the belt in that division. There's no doubt in my mind.

1105
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 1: You look at everything he's done prior to even stepping

1106
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:20,280
Speaker 1: into the octagon, being undefeated, being a four time All American,

1107
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 1: being a national champion NCAA Division IE level is just insane.

1108
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 4: Only true freshman All American and the decorated history of

1109
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 4: Edinburgh University in Pennsylvania, and as we've said on the broadcast,

1110
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 4: I think his last three fights, I can't say it

1111
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 4: a knife enough. His head coach in college said on

1112
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 4: game day, I have never had an athlete raise their

1113
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:45,280
Speaker 4: game more. And you're talking about the legendary training sessions,

1114
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 4: and in college it was really more about he was

1115
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 4: okay in the gym, but once the bright lights come on,

1116
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:53,320
Speaker 4: forget about it. With this guy, there's just a relentlessness

1117
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 4: and an ability to sort of put all the nerves

1118
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 4: and everything else behind him. Go ahead, and you got something.

1119
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: No absolutely in immaturity as well. You know, just look

1120
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:03,720
Speaker 1: at the way that he handles himself in the interview

1121
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 1: with you, and then when we talked to him after

1122
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 1: the fight. He's extremely realistic in his perception on the

1123
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,360
Speaker 1: sport and where he thinks he is in the sport

1124
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 1: and how he's developing as a fighter. Just a very

1125
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 1: respectful guy that is a true martial artists man and

1126
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 1: a true fighter. He's not out there, you know, and

1127
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 1: again you can criticize him, but he said, you know, listen,

1128
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:26,840
Speaker 1: if I go out there and start, you know, talking trash,

1129
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 1: He's like, it's not going to be authentic. That is

1130
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 1: not me. So I really respect that guy.

1131
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 4: And he took me out to the parking lot to

1132
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 4: see his fishing boat after the fight. He was literally

1133
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 4: had his fishing boat parked in the parking lot there

1134
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 4: in Utica, New York, and has already gotten several fishing

1135
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 4: trips in already. But you mentioned something in terms of

1136
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 4: the strength and the size. Now, it's hard to quantify

1137
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 4: his strength against some of the bigger lightweights like Kevin Lee,

1138
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:54,800
Speaker 4: but there's no doubt he's giving up size to somebody

1139
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 4: like Kevin Lee and some of those guys in the

1140
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:58,880
Speaker 4: top five and the top ten at one hundred and

1141
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 4: fifty five pounds to say it's some easy weightcut for

1142
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 4: Gregor Gillespie and not to say that he's going to

1143
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:06,879
Speaker 4: be a featherweight in the future, but I think it's

1144
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 4: going to be very interesting to see who signs on

1145
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 4: the dotted line to fight this guy. And you're right,

1146
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 4: maybe some of the defensive defensive issues on the feet,

1147
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 4: but just a total beast. The chokes are there, and

1148
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:19,800
Speaker 4: Vince Paschelle thought that he was going to be able

1149
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 4: to sort of beat Gregor with his strength and physicality,

1150
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 4: right like Vince is a Brazilian jiu jitsu brown belt.

1151
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 4: You know, a guy who trains a lot of jiu jitsu,

1152
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 4: a guy who is strong in his own right for

1153
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 4: one hundred and fifty five pounds, a guy who enters

1154
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 4: that octagon probably north of one hundred and eighty pounds,

1155
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:36,879
Speaker 4: and he just felt like Gregor was gonna have a hard

1156
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 4: time taking him down. I'm not sitting here trying to

1157
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,799
Speaker 4: classify Puschelle as a top twenty lightweight. But Kenny, he

1158
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 4: just fought one of the bigger guys in this division

1159
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 4: and chewed him up and spin him out with relatives.

1160
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 1: Absolutely, and Pichelle again, look at his record. This is

1161
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 1: a guy only had one loss prior to that. He

1162
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 1: does have experience. He was very confident heading into this fight.

1163
00:50:56,080 --> 00:51:00,120
Speaker 1: He's a guy who has some decent skills there. And

1164
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:03,479
Speaker 1: Gregor Gillespie just made it look easy, man, He really

1165
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 1: made it look easy. So just a great night for

1166
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 1: him on Friday.

1167
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:10,760
Speaker 4: So in terms of who they might match him up against,

1168
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:12,759
Speaker 4: you know, your guess is as good as mine. I

1169
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 4: know they're working on some things. Edson Barboza is a

1170
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 4: guy who I think isn't matched up right now, unless

1171
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 4: I'm mistaken, most of the guys in the top fifteen

1172
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 4: and the bottom half are matched up. I mean, Anthony Pettis,

1173
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 4: I think is out there. But we'll see what happens.

1174
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:27,840
Speaker 4: There's going to be a lot of movement at one

1175
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 4: hundred and fifty five pounds, and Gregor Gillespie's getting somebody

1176
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 4: in the top fifteen and it's going to be very

1177
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 4: interesting to see how far he can take it. So

1178
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 4: got to sort of pick and choose some of these fights,

1179
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:38,720
Speaker 4: Kenny that went down in Utica, New York. I settled

1180
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 4: on the David Tamer Nick Lentz fight because I think

1181
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 4: there's a bigger conversation in terms of fence grabs and

1182
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:47,319
Speaker 4: fighters getting away with fouls. Now, when David Tamor fought

1183
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:50,320
Speaker 4: for Karr Close in Detroit back into temperature car Close,

1184
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 4: you know, accused David Tamber of greasing, and so it's

1185
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 4: not something that you know is new to the Tamer

1186
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 4: brothers getting sort of an allegation that they have cheated, right,

1187
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 4: And I guess maybe it's not the most appropriate verb

1188
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:04,400
Speaker 4: when it comes to the fence grabs, And a lot

1189
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:06,359
Speaker 4: of fighters would probably say, hey, if I get away

1190
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 4: with one, so be it. But you get away with

1191
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 4: one fence grab in a fight against somebody like Nick Lentz,

1192
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 4: and it changes the whole complexion of the fight. Somebody

1193
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:16,840
Speaker 4: like Nick Lentz, all he needs potentially is one takedown

1194
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 4: right to suffocate you and choke you out. That has

1195
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:22,400
Speaker 4: been his game. And I got a real issue with

1196
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 4: these fence grabs and fighters getting away with it and

1197
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 4: not getting an immediate point deduction when it looks to

1198
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,360
Speaker 4: the referee like it could have been a takedown. Do

1199
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 4: you have any thoughts on that trend in MMA and

1200
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 4: what we can do to get it out of the sport.

1201
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:38,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, listen, I don't like it either. It's

1202
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:40,840
Speaker 1: something I have done. I remember I did it, I

1203
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:43,320
Speaker 1: think once against Sean Shirk. It was something that I

1204
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 1: just kind of just reached for. I was like, oh,

1205
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 1: I gotta base myself out. I just grabbed the fence

1206
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 1: and then ended up, you know, having to let go

1207
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:52,719
Speaker 1: and he slammed me on my head. But so sometimes

1208
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 1: it's things that you're not even conscious, you know, aware of.

1209
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:58,720
Speaker 1: But in other cases we've seen it before where guys

1210
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 1: are knowingly grabbing the cage, especially the Reftael's hey, don't

1211
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 1: grab the cage. He lets go, and then he goes

1212
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 1: right back and grabs the cage again. You know, it

1213
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 1: angers me and I think for referees, if you see

1214
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 1: a guy do it once, Okay, listen, I get that.

1215
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 1: I get that. You know, it's up to the referee

1216
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 1: at that point to say, hey, was this intentional or not.

1217
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:22,360
Speaker 1: But referees are so scared to get to do a

1218
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 1: point deduction in this sport, whether it's a it's an

1219
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 1: illegal blow or grabbing of the cage or whatever it is,

1220
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 1: they're just so scared to do it. I feel like.

1221
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:35,320
Speaker 1: So I think once we see referees really take charge

1222
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:37,839
Speaker 1: and start to take points away, we will see these

1223
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 1: files reduced. In my opinion, well, once they know that, hey,

1224
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 1: referees are actually gonna you know, they could take away

1225
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 1: a point if you do a low blow right off

1226
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 1: the bat whoa. You know, if you're grabbing the cage.

1227
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:50,720
Speaker 1: There needs to be some kind of fear uh injected

1228
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 1: into the fighters a little bit.

1229
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 4: Well because the next fight Lauren Murphy against the jar

1230
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 4: U Banks, you saw Murphy clearly post when sort of

1231
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 4: a subtle fence grab might have kept her right, she's

1232
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 4: trying to play by the rules, and it wouldn't have

1233
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:06,439
Speaker 4: affected the scorecards, although to my argument, the whole fight

1234
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 4: complexion could have changed, but it was thirty twenty seven

1235
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 4: times two for Tamer and then twenty nine to twenty

1236
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:13,720
Speaker 4: eight from the third judge, so it wouldn't have affected

1237
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,319
Speaker 4: the outcome if it had gone to the scorecards necessarily.

1238
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 4: But just a big moment in that fight, and obviously

1239
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 4: Nick Lentz was furious about it, and I just feel

1240
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:24,840
Speaker 4: for the guy. Any thoughts on Walt Harris, Ben Saunders,

1241
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 4: Julio Arse, Sam Alvi the main card winners. I just

1242
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 4: have a thought on Ben Saunders, because this is a

1243
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:33,320
Speaker 4: guy that some argue is long in the tooth or

1244
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:36,360
Speaker 4: shouldn't deserve his spot on the UFC roster. And I

1245
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:39,280
Speaker 4: just love seeing these guys Kenny so deep into the game,

1246
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 4: getting bonus money and getting six figure paydays, like for

1247
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:45,280
Speaker 4: Ben Saunders his last fight against Alan Joe Ban Obviously

1248
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:48,280
Speaker 4: it was not very good, said he redlined it very emotional,

1249
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 4: but he did get a fifty thousand dollars bonus and

1250
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 4: then he knocks out Jake Ellenberger here. I don't know

1251
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 4: what his win and show money is But here's Ben

1252
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 4: Saunders after so many UFC fights, he remember the Brandon

1253
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 4: Wolf fight in O eight that we covered on MMA Live,

1254
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:04,359
Speaker 4: with all of those knees and still getting it done

1255
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 4: and still making a whole lot of money, you know,

1256
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:09,759
Speaker 4: fifteen years into a pro career. I just I like

1257
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 4: seeing the veterans get bonus man and it couldn't happen

1258
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 4: to a better guy in Killoby.

1259
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, absolutely, Saunders is a great guy. He's a

1260
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:19,759
Speaker 1: true martial artist, a guy who's been at this for

1261
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 1: a very long time, very hard worker. And to see

1262
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 1: him get this win over a tough veteran in Jake

1263
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 1: Ellenberger was great. And to get it done really through

1264
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 1: his patent move. You know, you get in Ben Saunders clinch.

1265
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 1: I don't care who you are, you're in danger. You

1266
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 1: are in danger. And that's why I was so surprised

1267
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:41,799
Speaker 1: that ellen Burger really put himself in that situation. And

1268
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 1: if you're doing your homework, you don't go to your

1269
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 1: you don't go to your opponent's strengths. And I was

1270
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:48,840
Speaker 1: really surprised that ellen Burger really didn't break out of

1271
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:52,359
Speaker 1: there earlier, him being the shorter man him knowing that

1272
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 1: Saunders is so damn dangerous in that clinch, whether it's

1273
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:58,359
Speaker 1: elbows or knees, and the fact that he got hurt

1274
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 1: with the knee, in my opinion earlier in that clinch position, Yes,

1275
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:05,359
Speaker 1: I thought was just not a good decision on ellen

1276
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:07,399
Speaker 1: Burger's part. It was tough for me to see ellen

1277
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:09,720
Speaker 1: Burger lose. Just a great guy in this sport who's

1278
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:13,279
Speaker 1: like Saunders, has been doing this a long time. But yeah,

1279
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 1: I mean, these are the great opportunities for these fighters,

1280
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:17,959
Speaker 1: and when they get these bonuses, it really does change

1281
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 1: their lives, you know, it really does. And you could

1282
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 1: see how fired up Saunders was after the fight, and

1283
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 1: it's a guy who really is passionate about what he does.

1284
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:30,320
Speaker 1: So you have to respect and appreciate.

1285
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:32,239
Speaker 4: That, no doubt about it. And for Jake ellen Berger,

1286
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:34,399
Speaker 4: the last time the UFC was in his home state

1287
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:38,280
Speaker 4: of Nebraska, he main evented in Omaha twenty thirteen against

1288
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:40,960
Speaker 4: Diego Sanchez. And I think there's a show in Lincoln,

1289
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 4: Nebraska on August twenty fifth, and if Jake can get right,

1290
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 4: I think that would be sort of a nice way

1291
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:47,799
Speaker 4: for maybe him to walk away. If he can get

1292
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 4: the right opponent. I don't even know if he has

1293
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:51,839
Speaker 4: the appetite for it right now, but I think the

1294
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:54,279
Speaker 4: stars seem to be aligning for Jake ellen Berger. If

1295
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:56,760
Speaker 4: he wanted to have sort of a going away party

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00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 4: in Nebraska, perhaps he'll be given that opportunity. So Sam

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00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:02,279
Speaker 4: Alve beats John Belante, And my question to you on

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00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:05,280
Speaker 4: this one is the call out of Corey Anderson. And

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00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:07,839
Speaker 4: for Corey Anderson, I know he's paying respects. I think

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00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 4: he lost his uncle over the weekend, so our condolences

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00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:13,880
Speaker 4: to the family of Corey Anderson. But unless there's something

1302
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 4: Sam Alvi sees in terms of maybe a shin that

1303
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 4: he can crack to me stylistically, I would think Corey

1304
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 4: Anderson would be among the worst matchups for Sam Alviy.

1305
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 4: Not to say that Alvi doesn't have very good takedown defense,

1306
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 4: but Corey Anderson is just volume takedown artist and an

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00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 4: improved striker. But why the call out do you think

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00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 4: of Corey Anderson? Makes some sense out of this one for.

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Speaker 1: Me to be candidate. I think that for Sam Alvi,

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00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 1: who has excellent knockout power, he's seeing a guy in

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00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 1: Corey Anderson who has been knocked out and knocked out

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00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 1: brutally in a few fights now and recently, so I

1313
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 1: think that's why he wants it. And Cory Anderson at

1314
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 1: times does get caught up trading for the sake of trading,

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00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 1: so I think that that's where he's and I think

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00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 1: also Sam Alvi probably thinks that he has the wrestling

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00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 1: prowess or enough wrestling knowledge to maybe fourth those takedown

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00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 1: attemps from Amberson, who really could be a problem, as

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00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 1: you said, you know, with his takedown game and his

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00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 1: ability to mix things up. If Corey's able to do

1321
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 1: that and really disguise those things, disguise when he wants

1322
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 1: to strike, and disguise when he wants to take people down, yeah,

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00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 1: I absolutely think he can beat a guy like Alvi.

1324
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 1: The problem for Corey is sometimes he's not so good

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00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 1: at hiding what he's going to do. He telegraphs a

1326
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 1: little bit, you see things coming, and then he gets caught.

1327
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 1: So we'll see again, this is a guy in Alvio.

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00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 1: I think still has the power at two hundred and

1329
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 1: five pounds, as he demonstrated early in that first round

1330
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 1: against or late in that first round against Valante. But

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00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 1: I think that's a fight that does make sense.

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00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:47,800
Speaker 4: I think it makes sense too, And I think Alvi

1333
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 4: is thoughtful in all of these callouts, so there's certainly

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00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:53,439
Speaker 4: thought behind what he's trying to do. And how about

1335
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 4: smile and Sam Alvi can flow? You know? Ten and

1336
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 4: five in the UFC. As we mentioned last week on

1337
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 4: the podcast forty fourth Pro Fight, he's only been finished twice, right,

1338
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 4: and Brunson the only guy to do it in the UFC.

1339
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:08,440
Speaker 4: I mean sit in cage side like Valante stung him

1340
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 4: a couple times and he don't even flinch man a

1341
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 4: lot of what he does. Yea, yeah, exactly. So Guy Smiley,

1342
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 4: as Jimmy Smith called him, smiling, Sam Alvic ten and

1343
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 4: five in the UFC, All right, a couple other things,

1344
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 4: Jose Torres and Jared Brooks, did you see this on

1345
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 4: UFC Fight Pass or where you do on the prefeightch.

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Speaker 1: I caught the finish, which was very unfortunate. This is

1347
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:34,760
Speaker 1: what happens when we get too emotional, we get too excited,

1348
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:36,200
Speaker 1: We get a guy up in the air and we're

1349
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 1: just like, yeah, I just want to slam the hell

1350
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:41,440
Speaker 1: out of this guy. It doesn't matter how it happens.

1351
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 1: You gotta be aware of where you are positionally when

1352
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:48,080
Speaker 1: you're looking for a takedown. I think he just got

1353
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:51,160
Speaker 1: a little too excited, a little bit too emotional when

1354
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:53,560
Speaker 1: he had him up in the air and said I'm

1355
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 1: just gonna slam this guy ended up power bombing himself. Unfortunate.

1356
00:59:58,720 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 1: Never a good thing when you do that to you.

1357
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Speaker 4: And then finally Nathaniel Wood over Johnny Eduardo. I know

1358
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:06,080
Speaker 4: a lot of people are excited about Nathaniel Wood. Fans

1359
01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 4: in London seem to think that this guy can really

1360
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Speaker 4: sell some tickets and nice for him to get a

1361
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Speaker 4: win in the UFC debut. You know, I shared an

1362
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 4: elevator with Johnny Eduardo after the fact, and these are

1363
01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:17,240
Speaker 4: the things that are hard, right. Here's Johnny Eduardo coming

1364
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 4: up on forty years old, takes on this young lion

1365
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:23,200
Speaker 4: outstrikes the shit out of him for a big portion

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01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:25,400
Speaker 4: of this fight, but didn't close the door at the

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01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:27,240
Speaker 4: end of that first round, ends up getting finished and

1368
01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:29,840
Speaker 4: putting sort of his UFC job in Jeopardy. Did you

1369
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:31,840
Speaker 4: see Nathaniel Wood's performance over the weekend?

1370
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:34,919
Speaker 1: I did it. We were filming at that time, But yeah,

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01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 1: I heard about the finish and Johnny Eduardo, a tremendous striker,

1372
01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:41,800
Speaker 1: was the striking coach over at Novunyao for a very

1373
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:46,400
Speaker 1: long time. Right dynamic Fast puts together beautiful combination when

1374
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 1: he's on, boy he is on, and yeah, unfortunate for

1375
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:54,120
Speaker 1: him late in his career, but I hear good things

1376
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 1: about what and.

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Speaker 4: Last thing I'll say, Julio R say with a win

1378
01:00:57,880 --> 01:01:00,440
Speaker 4: over Daniel tamber By submission with the rear nae choke.

1379
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:02,760
Speaker 4: I really like the composure of this young RSA kid.

1380
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 4: And on a night where Jimmy Rivera came up short

1381
01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:07,160
Speaker 4: in the main event, it was not all or not

1382
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:09,800
Speaker 4: for Tiger Shulman's mma because I think in Julio rs

1383
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 4: they really have a future contender. All right, coming up

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Speaker 4: time to make some picks. Let's get to the main

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Speaker 4: Event challenge.

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01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:23,520
Speaker 1: It's the Main Event challenge and the time is most

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01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:29,480
Speaker 1: definitely hi finished fine, how do you everything.

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01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:32,960
Speaker 3: Both well to win the Main Event Challenge? To John

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01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 3: Annick and Kenny Florian podcast.

1412
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:38,960
Speaker 4: All Right, Team Annick led It sixty four forty eight

1413
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:41,600
Speaker 4: Going into UFC Utica, Ken Flow went head ahead with

1414
01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:45,640
Speaker 4: Wade Roberts. Flow needed a big week and he gets

1415
01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:47,840
Speaker 4: it nine to six For the Flow you had Marlon

1416
01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:51,600
Speaker 4: but ice by knockout round three pretty close there. Either way,

1417
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:53,240
Speaker 4: a big week for you, so it shaves the team

1418
01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:56,200
Speaker 4: Annic lead a bit seventy to fifty seven heading into

1419
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Speaker 4: UFC two twenty five. Big opportunity to gain some ground

1420
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Speaker 4: this week for you, kid, because ten selections are coming

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Speaker 4: your way and joining us to make picks today representing Washington, DC.

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Speaker 4: Anakin Florian podcast listener Ian mcinnernie is with us, Ian,

1423
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:10,280
Speaker 4: how are you man?

1424
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Speaker 6: Great?

1425
01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:11,680
Speaker 8: How are you guys doing?

1426
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:14,200
Speaker 4: We're doing well. It's good to have you with us,

1427
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:16,200
Speaker 4: and we are going to start firing through some of these.

1428
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:18,120
Speaker 4: Ken Flow is going to try to keep the momentum going.

1429
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:20,680
Speaker 4: If you don't have video, the dude is actually stretching

1430
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:24,480
Speaker 4: right now, all right, So we start with the featured

1431
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:27,280
Speaker 4: prelimb at heavyweight. You can see this on FS one.

1432
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:31,280
Speaker 4: Curtis Razor Blades minus one fifty five favorite over Alistair Overreim,

1433
01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:34,600
Speaker 4: who comes back at plus one twenty five? Ian, who

1434
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:38,440
Speaker 4: do you like here? Alistair Overreim or Curtis Razor Blades.

1435
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:41,680
Speaker 11: So I'm actually more conflicted about this fight than any

1436
01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 11: other fight on the card. So I think of it

1437
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:45,200
Speaker 11: as like the smart part of my brain versus the

1438
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:48,280
Speaker 11: pride never die a part of my brain. And I'm

1439
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:51,480
Speaker 11: definitely hoping that Curtis Blades doesn't just out wrestle us

1440
01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:54,000
Speaker 11: over In for three rounds and it's be a boring decision.

1441
01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:56,840
Speaker 11: So I'm going to go with Alistair Overream v NAP's decision.

1442
01:03:57,000 --> 01:03:59,680
Speaker 11: He'll be smap at distance and I'll be hopefully a

1443
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:00,800
Speaker 11: good fight, all right.

1444
01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:03,080
Speaker 4: Reem is a slight dog for Ian there Kenny. Curtis

1445
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:05,960
Speaker 4: Blades has not lost since his UFC debut against Francis

1446
01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:07,720
Speaker 4: and Ghano back in the Day four and zero, with

1447
01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:11,120
Speaker 4: a no contest over his last five Overreim, returning here

1448
01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:14,600
Speaker 4: for the first time since that brutal loss to that

1449
01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:17,040
Speaker 4: same man Francis and Ghano back in December. So who

1450
01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:20,360
Speaker 4: do you like, the young Curtis Blades or the veteran

1451
01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:21,520
Speaker 4: Alistair over.

1452
01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, for me, I think I'm I'm in

1453
01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:28,840
Speaker 1: a similar kind of dilemma as Ian is, and more specifically,

1454
01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:31,160
Speaker 1: what kind of Overream is gonna show up. He's one

1455
01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:34,880
Speaker 1: of the most inconsistent guys who is an elite fighter,

1456
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:37,920
Speaker 1: and now he's getting a little bit older now, so

1457
01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:40,400
Speaker 1: it's tough to know what kind of overream is going

1458
01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:42,800
Speaker 1: to show up. I think Curtis Blades is more consistent

1459
01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:47,000
Speaker 1: with what we've seen lately. Can he take him down consistently?

1460
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I gotta say I was surprised

1461
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:54,840
Speaker 1: by his Blade's last performance against Mark Hunt. I did

1462
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:57,280
Speaker 1: not pick him in that fight. I think he showed

1463
01:04:57,280 --> 01:04:59,960
Speaker 1: that he is a different fighter, both mentally and technically.

1464
01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:03,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Blades here.

1465
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:06,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, Curtis Blade certainly answered a lot of questions in

1466
01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:07,760
Speaker 4: that Mark Han fight. We'll see if he can keep

1467
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:10,200
Speaker 4: it going against Alastair over All. Right, first fight on

1468
01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:13,840
Speaker 4: pay per view in the UFC's welterweight division. Mike Jackson

1469
01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:16,160
Speaker 4: can't call him the truth. There's only one Paul Pierce,

1470
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Speaker 4: let's be clear about that. But Mike Jackson monest two

1471
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Speaker 4: oh five favorite against the also oh to one as

1472
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Speaker 4: a pro CM punk who is plus one sixty seven

1473
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:27,400
Speaker 4: ian Mike Jackson or CM punk for you.

1474
01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:30,360
Speaker 11: So it's based purely upon the Mickey goll fight and

1475
01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:34,160
Speaker 11: how long each fight lasted CM Punk via Anacon device.

1476
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:37,960
Speaker 4: All right, CM Punk at plus one sixty seven. And

1477
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:40,040
Speaker 4: for the record, I think Mickey gall who beat both

1478
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:42,880
Speaker 4: of these guys, can Flow is picking CM Punk in

1479
01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:45,360
Speaker 4: the fight. Hey, that may be neither here nor there

1480
01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:48,200
Speaker 4: for you. Are you going CM Punk or the photographer

1481
01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:55,600
Speaker 4: slash Fighter? Mike Jackson Man the photographer slash Fighters?

1482
01:05:58,320 --> 01:05:59,920
Speaker 1: Oh Man, Kenny.

1483
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:02,120
Speaker 4: Well, before you think I'm banging on him, I'm gonna

1484
01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:04,760
Speaker 4: sit down with Mike Jackson for our fighter meeting on Thursday.

1485
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:09,080
Speaker 4: He hasn't fought since twenty sixteen. He just photographed an

1486
01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:12,920
Speaker 4: MMA show two weeks ago, so he still does both crafts, right,

1487
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:15,640
Speaker 4: He's more active as a photographer than fighter, that's for sure.

1488
01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:18,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, you got a point.

1489
01:06:18,040 --> 01:06:19,320
Speaker 4: All right. Anyway, who do you like?

1490
01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:19,520
Speaker 6: Kid?

1491
01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:20,120
Speaker 4: Who do you like?

1492
01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:22,920
Speaker 1: You know what, I'm gonna go and see him punk

1493
01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:25,120
Speaker 1: as well. I'm gonna stay on track with Ian here.

1494
01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:28,360
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's because I'd like to see

1495
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:31,120
Speaker 1: him kind of getting a win. I felt like, you know,

1496
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:32,920
Speaker 1: he puts so much on the line when he goes

1497
01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:35,120
Speaker 1: out there and competes. You know, you have to respect

1498
01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:37,120
Speaker 1: him for that. All the other guys will probably deserve

1499
01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:40,080
Speaker 1: the spot above CM Punk. Sure. I think there's a

1500
01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:41,640
Speaker 1: lot of fighters that have been putting in a lot

1501
01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:44,160
Speaker 1: of time over the years who are good that are

1502
01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:47,640
Speaker 1: not in the UFC yet. However, obviously CM punk brings

1503
01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:50,120
Speaker 1: in a lot of eyeballs. I respect the hell out

1504
01:06:50,120 --> 01:06:54,800
Speaker 1: of him for working as hard as he has and yeah,

1505
01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:56,800
Speaker 1: let's see what happens on Saturday Night.

1506
01:06:56,840 --> 01:07:00,720
Speaker 4: Man Ceampunk's UFC debut was September of two thousand and sixteen,

1507
01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:04,320
Speaker 4: so he's had nearly two years to make improvements. And

1508
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:06,960
Speaker 4: for Mike Jackson, Kenny, I bet he's more insulted that

1509
01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:10,160
Speaker 4: the great Kenny Flourian is picking Sampo and he is

1510
01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:14,320
Speaker 4: that I called him a fighter photographer, But uh, I digress.

1511
01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:17,080
Speaker 4: Let's get back to the heavyweight division. Flows tie too,

1512
01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:21,280
Speaker 4: Evasa tie to Evasa minus one sixty five the favorite

1513
01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:23,400
Speaker 4: here to beat andre Orlovsky, who is at plus one

1514
01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:25,480
Speaker 4: thirty five. He in the thirty nine year old Orlovsky

1515
01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:28,160
Speaker 4: has won two in a row since he was left

1516
01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:31,160
Speaker 4: for dead by many fans. The question is does he

1517
01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:33,160
Speaker 4: make it three in a row against touiy Vasa.

1518
01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:36,320
Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, you said every time I've written off

1519
01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:38,360
Speaker 11: Arlowski in the past, who's just come back and just

1520
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:41,800
Speaker 11: decided to completely dismiss my opinion of him. But I

1521
01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:43,880
Speaker 11: just I was so impressed by tuey Vasa against his

1522
01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:46,920
Speaker 11: fight with cil A Laskar. I think he's gonna Parolowski away.

1523
01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:49,080
Speaker 11: But I also think, unfortunately our lost, he's gonna last

1524
01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:51,160
Speaker 11: longer than he should or really needs to. I think

1525
01:07:51,160 --> 01:07:53,480
Speaker 11: it's gonna be a late round two TKO and a

1526
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:54,560
Speaker 11: kind of unfortunate fight.

1527
01:07:55,320 --> 01:07:57,919
Speaker 4: Ken flow tooy Vasa Orlovsky. Who's the pick to click?

1528
01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:02,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a tough one because I like Arlowsky

1529
01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:04,840
Speaker 1: so much, but this is another guy, if I'm being candid,

1530
01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:09,840
Speaker 1: who has been quite inconsistent as well. So I gotta

1531
01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:14,480
Speaker 1: go with ty tooey Vasa. I think his power. I

1532
01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:16,760
Speaker 1: see him landing one of those big shots, and I

1533
01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:19,479
Speaker 1: don't know if anyone in that division, if he lands

1534
01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:21,559
Speaker 1: that big shot, can with stand a shot like that

1535
01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:24,720
Speaker 1: with four ounce glove. So I gotta go with tuy

1536
01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:26,240
Speaker 1: Vasa here, all right?

1537
01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:28,320
Speaker 4: Moving on down this pay per view main card women's

1538
01:08:28,360 --> 01:08:31,240
Speaker 4: featherweight division, Meghan Anderson making her UFC debut. She will

1539
01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:33,400
Speaker 4: do so as a plus two to ten underdog against

1540
01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:36,960
Speaker 4: Holly Holm. Home currently sitting at minus two sixty five.

1541
01:08:37,479 --> 01:08:40,120
Speaker 4: So first fight guys of twenty eighteen for Holly Holm,

1542
01:08:40,200 --> 01:08:43,439
Speaker 4: of course, her last fight against Cyborg in December of

1543
01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:47,120
Speaker 4: last year. Holly Holme, Meghan Anderson Ian, who do you like?

1544
01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:50,559
Speaker 11: You know, women's fights are always hard to pick, especially

1545
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:53,400
Speaker 11: with Holly Holm and how she's been lately, but nothing

1546
01:08:53,439 --> 01:08:55,280
Speaker 11: about him. Meg and Anderson tells me that she's going

1547
01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:57,599
Speaker 11: to put away Holly Holm, But I say Home by.

1548
01:08:57,520 --> 01:09:01,240
Speaker 4: Decision ken Flow, first three round fight for Holly Holm

1549
01:09:01,320 --> 01:09:03,920
Speaker 4: since her second UFC appearance against Marian Renault all the

1550
01:09:03,960 --> 01:09:07,240
Speaker 4: way back in July of twenty fifteen, massive edge in

1551
01:09:07,360 --> 01:09:10,840
Speaker 4: terms of championship experience for Holly Home. You think she

1552
01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:13,200
Speaker 4: gets it done here against the newcomer Meghan Anderson.

1553
01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:16,360
Speaker 1: I think she does. I think Holly will get it

1554
01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:19,240
Speaker 1: done again. I want to see a Holly Holme who

1555
01:09:19,280 --> 01:09:21,760
Speaker 1: just takes the pressure off her shoulders and goes out

1556
01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:26,280
Speaker 1: there and just fights without putting all this immense pressure

1557
01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:28,719
Speaker 1: on her on herself. And I think if she's able

1558
01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:31,559
Speaker 1: to do that, she really has a pensil to beat anybody. Uh,

1559
01:09:33,360 --> 01:09:36,880
Speaker 1: doesn't matter Meghan. I think she's tough. I just think

1560
01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:39,680
Speaker 1: experience wise and big fights, that is gonna be the

1561
01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:42,920
Speaker 1: difference here. I think Meghan has the potential to be

1562
01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:45,400
Speaker 1: a champion later on in this sport. I'm not sure

1563
01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:47,679
Speaker 1: that time is now, though, I'm gonna go with Holly.

1564
01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:50,800
Speaker 1: I just saw her at Fox Sports. Man. Uh, it's

1565
01:09:50,840 --> 01:09:54,559
Speaker 1: impressive just her athletic build. She is jacked, man, I

1566
01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:56,519
Speaker 1: like wanted to put I had a T shirt on.

1567
01:09:56,560 --> 01:09:58,240
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm gonna put my jacket on here.

1568
01:09:58,280 --> 01:10:01,519
Speaker 1: I don't really feel she is. She looks like she's

1569
01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:06,920
Speaker 1: in phenomenal shape. She seems ready, she looks healthy. So yeah,

1570
01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:08,679
Speaker 1: I think Holly's gonna win that one.

1571
01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:11,280
Speaker 4: And even though she has said she's a natural bandam

1572
01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:13,400
Speaker 4: weight and she believes that that is where she can

1573
01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:17,680
Speaker 4: regain her glory. Right, no cut this weekend, and she

1574
01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:21,639
Speaker 4: obviously continues to keep herself in peak physical shape. All right,

1575
01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:24,880
Speaker 4: co main event for the UFC Interim Welterweight title. I

1576
01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:27,200
Speaker 4: wish I could stand up for this, but we're on camera.

1577
01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:30,320
Speaker 4: So this, as I mentioned earlier, as close as any

1578
01:10:30,360 --> 01:10:34,520
Speaker 4: fight on the car Dosanjos minus won twenty five Covington

1579
01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:36,719
Speaker 4: also in the minus at least on my site minus

1580
01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:39,559
Speaker 4: one oh five. So we will proceed for our purposes

1581
01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:43,479
Speaker 4: with Covington as the underdog, call him even money title

1582
01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:45,439
Speaker 4: fight here. Ian will need the round and the method

1583
01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:48,480
Speaker 4: of victory. Who walks away with the UFC Interim welterweight

1584
01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:49,400
Speaker 4: title in Chicago.

1585
01:10:50,040 --> 01:10:52,200
Speaker 11: I'm actually kind of surprised how close the line is here.

1586
01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:55,080
Speaker 11: I was especially surprised just because how much damage that

1587
01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:57,360
Speaker 11: Covington took in the first round of the Maya fight.

1588
01:10:57,880 --> 01:10:59,320
Speaker 11: His face is pretty beat up in that fight, and

1589
01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:02,080
Speaker 11: even though he definite one, it just I'm kind of

1590
01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:05,280
Speaker 11: surprised by that. And I think if if RDA can

1591
01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:07,559
Speaker 11: put hands on Covington and Keith the pace that he

1592
01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:11,080
Speaker 11: normally keeps, I think it's going to be just a relatively.

1593
01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:13,400
Speaker 8: Easy night for RBA. I'm picking RDA via round three.

1594
01:11:13,240 --> 01:11:17,960
Speaker 4: TKO, Round three TKO Hafeyl dosanjos Can Flow. Twenty fifth

1595
01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:21,840
Speaker 4: UFC appearance for dosos Manny. Remember he started zero to

1596
01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:23,720
Speaker 4: two in the UFC back in two thousand and eight

1597
01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:25,960
Speaker 4: and two thousand and nine. Since he has won seventeen

1598
01:11:25,960 --> 01:11:28,919
Speaker 4: times in the UFC. He was the undisputed lightweight champion.

1599
01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:32,000
Speaker 4: Now he goes for a belt in a second division.

1600
01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:34,880
Speaker 4: Covington eight and one in the UFC. Who do you

1601
01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:37,880
Speaker 4: like flow? I've been dying to know Dosanjos Covington and

1602
01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:39,479
Speaker 4: ultimately how do they get it done?

1603
01:11:39,560 --> 01:11:39,680
Speaker 8: Well?

1604
01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:42,719
Speaker 1: Listen, I think those lines are probably very close because

1605
01:11:42,760 --> 01:11:45,120
Speaker 1: of just the way that these guys match up. Now,

1606
01:11:45,360 --> 01:11:49,360
Speaker 1: Kobe Covington in that fight against Damian Maya didn't want

1607
01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:51,679
Speaker 1: to go to the ground at all with Maya, whether

1608
01:11:51,720 --> 01:11:54,880
Speaker 1: he was on bottom or on top, and this fight

1609
01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:57,800
Speaker 1: against RDA is a little bit different. Rda, Yes he's

1610
01:11:57,840 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 1: a Brizilian just to black belt. Yes he is solid

1611
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:02,640
Speaker 1: on the ground. He is no Dammian Maya, however, so

1612
01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:06,439
Speaker 1: don't be surprised if Colby actually takes a completely different

1613
01:12:06,479 --> 01:12:09,280
Speaker 1: approach than he did against Damian Maya. If he decides

1614
01:12:09,320 --> 01:12:12,120
Speaker 1: to fight like he did against Damian Maya, RDA is

1615
01:12:12,120 --> 01:12:14,800
Speaker 1: gonna knock him out. I just I really believe that

1616
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:17,000
Speaker 1: it might take a little while, because Colby has quite

1617
01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:20,519
Speaker 1: the chin and he hasn't taken so much damage throughout

1618
01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:23,280
Speaker 1: his career, so I think it would take a little bit,

1619
01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:26,479
Speaker 1: but I think RDA would knock him out of fitz

1620
01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:28,559
Speaker 1: days on the feet, so I think for RDA, he's

1621
01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:31,680
Speaker 1: got to stop those takedowns. We've seen RDA struggle in

1622
01:12:31,720 --> 01:12:34,400
Speaker 1: the past with other wrestlers like a Beam Normaga, Madoff

1623
01:12:34,400 --> 01:12:37,080
Speaker 1: with a Clay Guida, guys who can put him on

1624
01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:40,639
Speaker 1: his back. Ardia not really known for his guard skills,

1625
01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:46,519
Speaker 1: so he also is facing a larger fighter in Kobe Covington.

1626
01:12:47,479 --> 01:12:50,640
Speaker 1: But I think RDA speed. I think his ability to

1627
01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:55,800
Speaker 1: put together lightning combinations, his ability to pressure guys. I

1628
01:12:55,840 --> 01:12:57,920
Speaker 1: think that's gonna be the difference here. I do think

1629
01:12:58,040 --> 01:13:00,519
Speaker 1: RDA gets the win. I think it could potentially be

1630
01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:04,240
Speaker 1: closer than we don't really think. Again, if Kolby's able

1631
01:13:04,240 --> 01:13:06,320
Speaker 1: to wrestle them to the to the matt, I think

1632
01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:07,559
Speaker 1: we'll have a fantastic fight.

1633
01:13:08,360 --> 01:13:12,000
Speaker 4: But I got Urdia here, all right, r DA outstanding breakdown.

1634
01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:13,400
Speaker 4: By the way, kid, I am going to need a

1635
01:13:13,439 --> 01:13:15,120
Speaker 4: round and a method if you'd be so kind.

1636
01:13:15,160 --> 01:13:18,800
Speaker 1: That's right, let's go with. Let's go at second round,

1637
01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:20,920
Speaker 1: second round t k O R D Y.

1638
01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:23,719
Speaker 4: But really good stuff there from the flowur main event

1639
01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:26,880
Speaker 4: rematch between UFC Midway Champion Robert Whittaker and the number

1640
01:13:26,920 --> 01:13:29,479
Speaker 4: one contender Joel Romero last time they fought, of course,

1641
01:13:29,720 --> 01:13:32,760
Speaker 4: Whittaker walking away with the interim belt later promoted to

1642
01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:36,000
Speaker 4: undisputed champion. That is the title he defends here. Ian.

1643
01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:37,760
Speaker 4: He will do so as the minus two thirty five

1644
01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:42,040
Speaker 4: favorite Romero about plus one ninety potentially some value there.

1645
01:13:42,240 --> 01:13:44,120
Speaker 4: Who wins the main event Ian and how do they

1646
01:13:44,160 --> 01:13:44,639
Speaker 4: get it done?

1647
01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:47,280
Speaker 11: I think this fight goes very similar to the last

1648
01:13:47,280 --> 01:13:50,320
Speaker 11: one and maybe even better for Whittaker. Hopefully he's coming

1649
01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:52,000
Speaker 11: into full strength of coming off the injury in a

1650
01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:55,160
Speaker 11: long way off. You know, I just rewatched the fight

1651
01:13:55,280 --> 01:13:57,120
Speaker 11: last night, and just the way that Whittaker early took

1652
01:13:57,120 --> 01:13:59,960
Speaker 11: control of the fight towards the end there was pretty

1653
01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:05,840
Speaker 11: impressive against Yoel. I'm taking Whittaker for a round five TKO.

1654
01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:10,160
Speaker 4: Round five TKO for Bobby Knuckles, the Reaper Robert Whittaker,

1655
01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:13,200
Speaker 4: So Kenny, no UFC interim belt for Yoel Romero walking

1656
01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:16,320
Speaker 4: in because of course, for that February title fight against

1657
01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:18,639
Speaker 4: Luke Rockold, he missed weight, but he did win the fight.

1658
01:14:18,680 --> 01:14:22,000
Speaker 4: He did finish Luke Rockold and he had that of course,

1659
01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:24,559
Speaker 4: is the only fight for him since the July eighth meeting.

1660
01:14:24,560 --> 01:14:27,760
Speaker 4: With Whittaker. Whittaker ends the entire layoff here because he

1661
01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:31,040
Speaker 4: hasn't fought since they went five rounds a year ago. Kenny,

1662
01:14:31,080 --> 01:14:34,160
Speaker 4: how does Act two go between Whittaker and Romero?

1663
01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:38,519
Speaker 1: You know, for anyone who has, you know, certainty of

1664
01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:41,759
Speaker 1: what's going to happen in this particular fight is lying

1665
01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:45,080
Speaker 1: through their teeth because there's so many question marks. First

1666
01:14:45,080 --> 01:14:48,000
Speaker 1: of the way these guys match up, it's a crapshoot

1667
01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:50,519
Speaker 1: number one. And then there's so many question marks from

1668
01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:54,280
Speaker 1: that first fight. We had Whittaker who blew his knee

1669
01:14:54,320 --> 01:14:56,599
Speaker 1: out in that first round thanks to a bleae kick

1670
01:14:56,640 --> 01:15:02,560
Speaker 1: from Yoel Romero, and so that happened, we had Whittaker

1671
01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:05,599
Speaker 1: winning the final three rounds, amazing how he was able

1672
01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:08,760
Speaker 1: to come back. And then we had Romero, who I

1673
01:15:08,760 --> 01:15:11,200
Speaker 1: didn't think fought so well. I think if there's someone

1674
01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:13,559
Speaker 1: who can make more adjustments in this fight, I think

1675
01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:16,080
Speaker 1: it's Romero. I think he didn't do a great job

1676
01:15:16,120 --> 01:15:18,919
Speaker 1: of isolating once he takes you down. That's his big weakness,

1677
01:15:18,920 --> 01:15:21,800
Speaker 1: which is crazy considering as an Olympic wrestler. Yes, he

1678
01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:24,160
Speaker 1: could put you on your back, but he's not great

1679
01:15:24,240 --> 01:15:28,120
Speaker 1: at keeping you there sometimes you know again, So I

1680
01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:30,880
Speaker 1: imagine that they must have been working on that with

1681
01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:33,519
Speaker 1: him for this fight here against Whittaker. That's what he

1682
01:15:33,560 --> 01:15:36,320
Speaker 1: needs to do here. Mix in those takedowns where not

1683
01:15:36,360 --> 01:15:39,160
Speaker 1: only he can score points and win rounds, but he

1684
01:15:39,200 --> 01:15:41,960
Speaker 1: can kind of rest and pace himself throughout this five

1685
01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:45,519
Speaker 1: round fight. I just don't see him going five hard

1686
01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:48,320
Speaker 1: rounds against someone like Robert Whittaker. Whittaker knows how to

1687
01:15:48,360 --> 01:15:52,040
Speaker 1: pace himself. He always comes in tremendous shape, as fast

1688
01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:54,160
Speaker 1: and explosive as Romero is. I think Whittaker is going

1689
01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:58,520
Speaker 1: to be faster with his hands. Particularly. Can't he consistently

1690
01:15:58,520 --> 01:16:01,120
Speaker 1: stop the takedown if Romeiro decides to just take a

1691
01:16:01,160 --> 01:16:04,559
Speaker 1: wrestling approach, I don't think so. I don't think many can.

1692
01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:09,559
Speaker 1: But I think Whittaker his ability to make good decisions

1693
01:16:09,640 --> 01:16:13,720
Speaker 1: at the right time. He showed tremendous mental toughness in

1694
01:16:13,800 --> 01:16:17,760
Speaker 1: that first one, going essentially what twenty four minutes with

1695
01:16:18,120 --> 01:16:22,599
Speaker 1: a destroyed knee. So I'm gonna go with Whitaker here.

1696
01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:26,200
Speaker 1: I think he gets it done by knockout in round three.

1697
01:16:26,800 --> 01:16:29,639
Speaker 4: Round three knockout for Robert Whittaker. All right, A lot

1698
01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:31,760
Speaker 4: of consensus between you guys. But I think when we

1699
01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:34,200
Speaker 4: get to some of these prelims and the quick picks,

1700
01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:36,400
Speaker 4: there will be a chance for Flow to separate a

1701
01:16:36,439 --> 01:16:39,800
Speaker 4: little bit, all right, Mersad Bectick minus won seventy versus

1702
01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:42,360
Speaker 4: Ricardo Lamas plus one forty Lamas back for the first

1703
01:16:42,400 --> 01:16:46,000
Speaker 4: time since that vicious knockout against Josh Emmon in December. Ian,

1704
01:16:46,040 --> 01:16:48,599
Speaker 4: you going Bectick as the favorite or Lamas as the dog.

1705
01:16:49,160 --> 01:16:50,920
Speaker 8: I'm going Bectick as the favorite.

1706
01:16:51,160 --> 01:16:55,920
Speaker 4: Can Flow Bechtick or Lamas for you? Jeez, tough one.

1707
01:16:56,000 --> 01:17:03,160
Speaker 1: I just realized I didn't make my quick pick here Underside's.

1708
01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:03,080
Speaker 4: Say you can you know what you can pass for

1709
01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:03,960
Speaker 4: Now we're gonna move on.

1710
01:17:04,160 --> 01:17:06,000
Speaker 1: Let's go to it pass. How's that all right?

1711
01:17:06,320 --> 01:17:10,960
Speaker 4: Claudia Goodelia minus five hundred Carla Asparza plus three seventy

1712
01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:14,559
Speaker 4: five Aspars's won two in a row upset Cynthia Calvio

1713
01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:17,559
Speaker 4: back in December. Vegas doesn't seem to care, though, if

1714
01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:20,080
Speaker 4: this betting line is any indication Gadelia, of course taking

1715
01:17:20,120 --> 01:17:23,920
Speaker 4: time off after her loss to Jessica onraj last September.

1716
01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:27,640
Speaker 4: Ian Goodelia as the prohibited favorite or Karla Asparza.

1717
01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:30,719
Speaker 8: For you, Gadelia by Malin it can.

1718
01:17:30,600 --> 01:17:32,920
Speaker 4: Flow Goadelia Asparza.

1719
01:17:33,600 --> 01:17:35,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I gotta go with Gadelia here. I think she's

1720
01:17:35,400 --> 01:17:39,000
Speaker 1: gonna stop those takedowns and from there aspars Is it's

1721
01:17:39,000 --> 01:17:41,320
Speaker 1: gonna be tough for on the feat all right.

1722
01:17:41,360 --> 01:17:44,639
Speaker 4: Anthony Smith minus two seventy five for Shot Evans plus

1723
01:17:44,680 --> 01:17:47,600
Speaker 4: two point fifteen Anthony Smith moving up to two oh

1724
01:17:47,720 --> 01:17:50,320
Speaker 4: five despite winning three of his last four midleweight sugar

1725
01:17:50,400 --> 01:17:53,000
Speaker 4: Shot also moving back up to the division he once

1726
01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:55,320
Speaker 4: owned after a two fight stint down at middleweight and

1727
01:17:55,360 --> 01:17:58,360
Speaker 4: that did not bear fruit for Sugarshad Evans or Smith

1728
01:17:58,400 --> 01:17:59,519
Speaker 4: for you Ian in this one?

1729
01:18:00,520 --> 01:18:03,160
Speaker 8: Uh Smith? And I really hope this is Rashad's last.

1730
01:18:02,920 --> 01:18:05,840
Speaker 4: Fight, Yeah, Ken Flow Smith Evans, what do you think?

1731
01:18:06,320 --> 01:18:08,639
Speaker 1: All I'm gonna say is I can't go against Rashad.

1732
01:18:09,560 --> 01:18:11,400
Speaker 1: He's a long time friend. Now, I gotta go with

1733
01:18:11,479 --> 01:18:12,040
Speaker 1: Rashad here.

1734
01:18:12,280 --> 01:18:14,200
Speaker 4: Well, and you get three points kid if he wins.

1735
01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:18,160
Speaker 4: All right. Joseph Benavidez minus two forty five Sergio Pettis

1736
01:18:18,200 --> 01:18:20,639
Speaker 4: plus one ninety seven. Benavitez Ian back for the first

1737
01:18:20,640 --> 01:18:24,040
Speaker 4: time since December of twenty sixteen. You last saw Pettis

1738
01:18:24,040 --> 01:18:27,519
Speaker 4: in a loss against Henry Shudo in December. Benavitez or

1739
01:18:27,560 --> 01:18:28,120
Speaker 4: Pettish for.

1740
01:18:28,080 --> 01:18:31,519
Speaker 8: You, Benavidez is the best flyway not named Demetrius Johnson.

1741
01:18:31,560 --> 01:18:34,560
Speaker 4: So Benevidez, Ben Flow, Benavidez or Pettis.

1742
01:18:34,680 --> 01:18:37,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Benavitez as well here. I do

1743
01:18:37,800 --> 01:18:39,519
Speaker 1: think it's going to be a more difficult fight than

1744
01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:42,840
Speaker 1: people anticipate. Pettis. I'm a fan of man. He's really

1745
01:18:42,840 --> 01:18:45,040
Speaker 1: made serious improvements in the last couple years.

1746
01:18:45,439 --> 01:18:48,920
Speaker 4: All right, Ian mcinernie, congrats on graduating law school, by

1747
01:18:48,920 --> 01:18:50,960
Speaker 4: the way, best of luck passing the bar, and thanks

1748
01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:52,439
Speaker 4: for listening and hopping on with us today.

1749
01:18:52,439 --> 01:18:53,800
Speaker 8: Man, thank you so much.

1750
01:18:53,840 --> 01:18:55,880
Speaker 11: I really hope the new TV deal includes both of you.

1751
01:18:56,240 --> 01:18:58,479
Speaker 11: And shout out to my boys Clayton, Cletchi and Ioh.

1752
01:18:58,479 --> 01:18:59,120
Speaker 8: Thank you so much.

1753
01:19:01,280 --> 01:19:02,559
Speaker 4: That's a sharp gat right there.

1754
01:19:02,680 --> 01:19:05,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, he he knows the stuff. Let's let's go. Let's

1755
01:19:05,920 --> 01:19:08,160
Speaker 1: go with Lamas. I need a point here, Let's go

1756
01:19:08,200 --> 01:19:09,080
Speaker 1: with lumps. All right.

1757
01:19:09,240 --> 01:19:12,200
Speaker 4: Well, it's not quite that point where you got to chase,

1758
01:19:12,240 --> 01:19:13,840
Speaker 4: but I think in a fight like that, if you're

1759
01:19:13,880 --> 01:19:16,080
Speaker 4: torn and the other guy's peaking bechtic. You can do

1760
01:19:16,160 --> 01:19:18,840
Speaker 4: worse than getting lamas at plus one forty. All right,

1761
01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:20,559
Speaker 4: A couple of things on the way out can flow.

1762
01:19:20,600 --> 01:19:24,040
Speaker 4: Several listeners asked me if I would ask you about this, So,

1763
01:19:24,240 --> 01:19:26,840
Speaker 4: darrun till the weight cutting video that has been out

1764
01:19:26,880 --> 01:19:29,760
Speaker 4: there circulating certainly disturbing to a lot of people. I

1765
01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:31,960
Speaker 4: don't know if you saw it from Patty Power he

1766
01:19:32,120 --> 01:19:36,640
Speaker 4: loses vision during the weight cut. Kenny described his experience

1767
01:19:36,720 --> 01:19:38,800
Speaker 4: cutting down to one hundred and forty five pounds at

1768
01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:40,960
Speaker 4: one point is staring death in the face, Kenny. I

1769
01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:43,560
Speaker 4: know you have the pictures to prove it, so I

1770
01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:47,400
Speaker 4: would imagine you are not all that surprised to see

1771
01:19:47,439 --> 01:19:51,080
Speaker 4: these types of images and videos because you have lived

1772
01:19:51,160 --> 01:19:51,559
Speaker 4: through this.

1773
01:19:52,280 --> 01:19:55,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, listen, it sounds weird. Everyone was horrified,

1774
01:19:55,160 --> 01:19:58,080
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, and this like that's a that's a

1775
01:19:58,080 --> 01:20:01,639
Speaker 1: weight cut. It's a weight cut. But this is this

1776
01:20:01,720 --> 01:20:03,800
Speaker 1: is a part of the sport, and it's the same thing.

1777
01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:07,160
Speaker 1: You know, if someone is explaining their ordeal getting to

1778
01:20:07,200 --> 01:20:09,680
Speaker 1: the top of Mount Everest and oh my god, that

1779
01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:13,120
Speaker 1: sounds ridiculed. I can't believe someone would do that. Yeah,

1780
01:20:13,240 --> 01:20:15,160
Speaker 1: that that's a part of it. It's not something I

1781
01:20:15,479 --> 01:20:20,040
Speaker 1: think everyone should be going through. But yeah, listen, I

1782
01:20:20,120 --> 01:20:21,800
Speaker 1: went from one hundred and eighty six, one hundred and

1783
01:20:21,800 --> 01:20:24,320
Speaker 1: eighty seven pounds to one hundred and forty five. Can

1784
01:20:24,360 --> 01:20:26,280
Speaker 1: you say that again, one hundred and eighty seven to

1785
01:20:26,320 --> 01:20:29,759
Speaker 1: one hundred and forty five pounds. That that's it sucks

1786
01:20:29,880 --> 01:20:32,840
Speaker 1: and listen, But you know what, that's also my fault

1787
01:20:32,840 --> 01:20:35,160
Speaker 1: for walking at one hundred and eighty seven pounds prior

1788
01:20:35,200 --> 01:20:37,519
Speaker 1: to a title fight against Jose Aldo. That's my fault.

1789
01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:40,519
Speaker 1: That that's me for being a dummy. So it could

1790
01:20:40,560 --> 01:20:42,599
Speaker 1: have been easier for me, and I guarantee it could

1791
01:20:42,600 --> 01:20:45,840
Speaker 1: have been way easier for Darren Till. And you know,

1792
01:20:45,920 --> 01:20:48,280
Speaker 1: Darren Till had had a lot of adversity had to

1793
01:20:48,320 --> 01:20:50,439
Speaker 1: deal with that week. You know, we heard some you know,

1794
01:20:51,240 --> 01:20:53,000
Speaker 1: rumors about him having to go to the hospital and

1795
01:20:53,040 --> 01:20:55,439
Speaker 1: all that's so like, you know, not not for him,

1796
01:20:55,479 --> 01:20:57,840
Speaker 1: but for his his girlfriend or his wife.

1797
01:20:57,560 --> 01:20:57,640
Speaker 3: And.

1798
01:20:59,400 --> 01:21:02,000
Speaker 1: You know, but it doesn't mean that he shouldn't have

1799
01:21:02,200 --> 01:21:04,639
Speaker 1: He should have been in there a lot lighter that week, right,

1800
01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:06,920
Speaker 1: And that same thing goes for me or anybody who's

1801
01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:09,320
Speaker 1: trying to cut ridiculous amounts of weight. It can always

1802
01:21:09,400 --> 01:21:14,160
Speaker 1: be better. So yeah, that's.

1803
01:21:13,640 --> 01:21:17,080
Speaker 4: Not to say that Kenny didn't sort of get ahead

1804
01:21:17,080 --> 01:21:19,080
Speaker 4: of it six or eight or ten weeks out, but

1805
01:21:19,120 --> 01:21:20,960
Speaker 4: you're sort of just saying for the masses that you

1806
01:21:21,040 --> 01:21:23,760
Speaker 4: could have gotten more ahead of it, thus making fight

1807
01:21:23,840 --> 01:21:27,000
Speaker 4: week less traumatic. And it's very hard for me to

1808
01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:29,120
Speaker 4: watch those videos. But I've been in locker rooms and

1809
01:21:29,120 --> 01:21:31,479
Speaker 4: I've seen these visuals, you know, I've shared saunas with

1810
01:21:31,560 --> 01:21:34,599
Speaker 4: these fighters during fight week, and there's nothing easy about it.

1811
01:21:35,439 --> 01:21:37,360
Speaker 4: I really hope that we get to a point where

1812
01:21:37,439 --> 01:21:39,479
Speaker 4: we're not having these massive weight cuts, But it's just

1813
01:21:39,520 --> 01:21:41,200
Speaker 4: hard for me to believe that this isn't going to

1814
01:21:41,200 --> 01:21:43,520
Speaker 4: be a part of the sport going forward in some capacity,

1815
01:21:43,600 --> 01:21:46,360
Speaker 4: because it's a great way to gain an advantage over

1816
01:21:46,400 --> 01:21:46,880
Speaker 4: your opponent.

1817
01:21:47,080 --> 01:21:49,040
Speaker 1: I've been thinking about this, and I think one way

1818
01:21:49,280 --> 01:21:52,320
Speaker 1: that it would certainly help would be if you had

1819
01:21:52,400 --> 01:21:55,639
Speaker 1: a way in thirty days prior to fight night. Yeah,

1820
01:21:55,640 --> 01:21:57,599
Speaker 1: if you had a way in that was you know,

1821
01:21:58,160 --> 01:22:01,880
Speaker 1: you had an official there, an official as in, you know,

1822
01:22:02,000 --> 01:22:04,960
Speaker 1: maybe it comes in earlier in the day or whatever

1823
01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:08,680
Speaker 1: in the morning and you check their weight where you

1824
01:22:08,800 --> 01:22:10,559
Speaker 1: make sure that not only you know, you check their

1825
01:22:10,640 --> 01:22:13,040
Speaker 1: hydration levels, and you check their weight to make sure

1826
01:22:13,080 --> 01:22:15,920
Speaker 1: that they didn't cut weight, that they didn't dehydrate themselves

1827
01:22:16,160 --> 01:22:18,360
Speaker 1: on that thirty days prior to fight night, so it

1828
01:22:18,400 --> 01:22:22,160
Speaker 1: looks like, hey, no, look I'm close to weight. I

1829
01:22:22,160 --> 01:22:24,360
Speaker 1: think that would make a lot of sense and also

1830
01:22:25,040 --> 01:22:28,880
Speaker 1: save a lot of fights going forward, because now you

1831
01:22:28,920 --> 01:22:31,479
Speaker 1: have thirty days. Go listen, you didn't make the weight

1832
01:22:31,520 --> 01:22:33,400
Speaker 1: that we wanted to. If you're gonna fight at one

1833
01:22:33,439 --> 01:22:36,320
Speaker 1: fifty five, we wanted you at one hundred and seventy pounds.

1834
01:22:36,600 --> 01:22:38,360
Speaker 1: You are not one hundred and seventy pounds, or your

1835
01:22:38,439 --> 01:22:41,519
Speaker 1: hydration isn't right. We're gonna find another guy to replace you,

1836
01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:44,360
Speaker 1: and you have thirty days to do it. As opposed

1837
01:22:44,400 --> 01:22:46,080
Speaker 1: to going in there on fight we can going, oh

1838
01:22:46,120 --> 01:22:48,080
Speaker 1: wait a second, this guy is thirty pounds to loser

1839
01:22:48,120 --> 01:22:50,720
Speaker 1: or whatever it is, twenty you know. I think it's

1840
01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:54,320
Speaker 1: just that would be a thing that would help the organization.

1841
01:22:54,680 --> 01:22:58,320
Speaker 1: It would make it safer for the fighters, and maybe

1842
01:22:58,360 --> 01:23:01,519
Speaker 1: you just make it standard across the board, no matter

1843
01:23:01,560 --> 01:23:04,599
Speaker 1: what the state is. The State Commission maybe doesn't come in,

1844
01:23:04,680 --> 01:23:08,360
Speaker 1: but maybe a UFC official or UFC you know, comes

1845
01:23:08,400 --> 01:23:10,960
Speaker 1: in and make sure that thirty days prior to fight

1846
01:23:11,080 --> 01:23:13,840
Speaker 1: night that their hydration and their weight is where it

1847
01:23:13,880 --> 01:23:15,000
Speaker 1: needs to be well.

1848
01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:17,040
Speaker 4: And I like this solution. I think it's a little

1849
01:23:17,080 --> 01:23:19,920
Speaker 4: bit ambitious to think that universally it would be accepted

1850
01:23:19,960 --> 01:23:22,800
Speaker 4: across all athletic commissions. The California State Athletic Commission is

1851
01:23:22,840 --> 01:23:24,920
Speaker 4: doing a lot of that stuff right now with pre

1852
01:23:25,160 --> 01:23:28,799
Speaker 4: event weigh ins and preventing guys from competing in weight classes.

1853
01:23:28,880 --> 01:23:30,880
Speaker 4: Right I think there was something with Henn and Barrow

1854
01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:34,920
Speaker 4: and some other fighter where they were prevented from fighting

1855
01:23:34,920 --> 01:23:36,880
Speaker 4: at bantam weight unless they could prove it in their

1856
01:23:36,880 --> 01:23:37,559
Speaker 4: next fight. You know.

1857
01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:40,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, And as you said, this is a difficult thing.

1858
01:23:40,840 --> 01:23:43,400
Speaker 1: You're talking about around six hundred fighters that you know,

1859
01:23:43,439 --> 01:23:44,920
Speaker 1: and all the different events that they'd have to do

1860
01:23:44,960 --> 01:23:47,320
Speaker 1: this for. But I do think it's worth it because

1861
01:23:47,360 --> 01:23:51,000
Speaker 1: the payoff and the potential losing of fights going forward.

1862
01:23:51,320 --> 01:23:53,639
Speaker 1: I think in the long run this makes a whole

1863
01:23:53,680 --> 01:23:54,200
Speaker 1: lot of sense.

1864
01:23:54,720 --> 01:23:56,680
Speaker 4: But I don't disagree with people who say it's going

1865
01:23:56,760 --> 01:24:00,719
Speaker 4: to take another death in combat for us to make

1866
01:24:01,240 --> 01:24:05,240
Speaker 4: wholesale changes, meaning guys and women fighting at their natural

1867
01:24:05,280 --> 01:24:07,960
Speaker 4: weight and do it now. It's sad to say but

1868
01:24:08,160 --> 01:24:11,200
Speaker 4: I don't disagree with that. All Right, that's it for today.

1869
01:24:11,240 --> 01:24:13,400
Speaker 4: Thank you to our guest Chris Wyman Ray Longo. Huge

1870
01:24:13,400 --> 01:24:15,559
Speaker 4: weekend coming up with UFC two twenty five of course

1871
01:24:15,600 --> 01:24:17,960
Speaker 4: in Chicago, so hopefully you'll all tune in for that

1872
01:24:18,240 --> 01:24:20,840
Speaker 4: fight pass FS one pay per view. We'll be back

1873
01:24:20,840 --> 01:24:24,000
Speaker 4: to recap the whole thing next Monday, June eleven. Also

1874
01:24:24,040 --> 01:24:26,479
Speaker 4: next week hopefully, so, Ken Fall and I did some

1875
01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:29,680
Speaker 4: genetic testing as part of a World Cup promotion with

1876
01:24:29,840 --> 01:24:32,639
Speaker 4: Fox and twenty three and meters. So the United States

1877
01:24:32,680 --> 01:24:35,280
Speaker 4: of America is not participating in the World Cup.

1878
01:24:35,320 --> 01:24:37,200
Speaker 1: Is Peru in, by the way, they are in?

1879
01:24:37,400 --> 01:24:41,679
Speaker 4: Absolutely So I have this sneaking suspicion that Ken Flow's

1880
01:24:41,720 --> 01:24:43,920
Speaker 4: genetic test is going to come back that he's Peruvian

1881
01:24:43,920 --> 01:24:45,759
Speaker 4: and he's going to be wearing a Peru JR. Jersey

1882
01:24:45,760 --> 01:24:48,360
Speaker 4: for the show next week. But based upon our results,

1883
01:24:48,360 --> 01:24:50,280
Speaker 4: we're going to reveal who we are supporting in the

1884
01:24:50,320 --> 01:24:53,160
Speaker 4: twenty eighteen World Cup. Hopefully we'll even have the jerseys

1885
01:24:53,200 --> 01:24:55,360
Speaker 4: for you next week to prove it. So with that,

1886
01:24:55,439 --> 01:24:58,040
Speaker 4: for everyone of Fox Sports, for Ken Florian, I'm John Ana,

1887
01:24:58,080 --> 01:25:00,479
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1890
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1891
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