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Speaker 2: Our number two of the drive here on Steelers Nation

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Speaker 2: Radio on the Steelers Audio Network. What Shooler and Matt

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Speaker 2: Williamson going over some AFC team win over and unders

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Speaker 2: here today. We'll do NFC tomorrow. Sounds like you're planning

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Speaker 2: to you, Yeah, I think we should. We'll do some

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Speaker 2: fantasy stuff here in our number two as well, but

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Speaker 2: I think maybe a heavier fantasy day tomorrow leading into

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Speaker 2: the big kind of fantasy weekend for everybody.

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Speaker 3: We obviously hit the Steeler roster real heavy yesterday. There

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Speaker 3: hasn't been any like rumblings or news. There hasn't been

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Speaker 3: Howard stuff.

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Speaker 4: No, no, there was last four hours, No there was.

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Speaker 2: You know, there was reports from some people, I wouldn't

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Speaker 2: say the biggest of whigs, but still some credible people

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Speaker 2: that the Steelers had conversations around Marquez Valdez Scantling and

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Speaker 2: he signed with the forty nine Ers today.

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Speaker 4: And actually makes me happy. I don't. I would not.

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Speaker 4: I would not be happy.

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Speaker 2: I had a feeling you were because you said that

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Speaker 2: you weren't really that interested on yesterday's show. So maybe

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Speaker 2: a good job by you getting me to follow up

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Speaker 2: on that there to you know, bring the dude the

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Speaker 2: journalism thing and follow up on the topic that we

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Speaker 2: discussed yesterday.

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Speaker 3: I've heard some people saying that Steelers have had Meyers talks,

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Speaker 3: but who knows.

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Speaker 2: Ye, and we're still I mean, the Gabe Davis front

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Speaker 2: has gone quiet all of a sudden. I wonder if

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Speaker 2: there's still medical stuff for him. Yeah, because it's quiet

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Speaker 2: on the Buffalo front as well too, So it wasn't

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Speaker 2: just Pittsburgh that he was visiting, but all those things. Again,

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Speaker 2: if there's any breaking news, anything new or part in it,

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Speaker 2: obviously we will discuss. Back to the AFC East here

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Speaker 2: and we are on the new England Patriots. Now, who's

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Speaker 2: over under is eight and a half and strength of

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Speaker 2: schedule here very easy, second easiest in the National Football League. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: is this a dark horse playoff contender to you, Matt

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Speaker 2: and your boy Drake may So.

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Speaker 3: A lot of reports and I don't think I'm speaking

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Speaker 3: out of turn. Really thought last year's coach, Past Belichick.

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Speaker 4: Really had no cluetes.

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Speaker 3: Do you know, like this is just a bad coordinated team,

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Speaker 3: bad coach team. I also don't think they had any

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Speaker 3: talent either. I mean, their offensive line was horrendous, the

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Speaker 3: receiving corps, bad defense has some pieces. I think people

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Speaker 3: were getting ahead of ourselves from eight and a half.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Vrabel's a legit coach, and that brings you,

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Speaker 3: you know, credibility for sure.

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Speaker 2: You should win more than two or three games.

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Speaker 3: Certainly, Yeah, I mean side note, I'm a believer. And

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Speaker 3: Tomlin's like the perfect example of this, Pete Carroll, Sean Payton.

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Speaker 3: There's a handful of dudes on the planet that just

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Speaker 3: know how to win NFL games, like you can give them.

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Speaker 2: They're never going to bottom out and go three and fourteen.

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Speaker 3: Right they And Vrabel's one of those, you know, like

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Speaker 3: it have to be pre pretty bad, and I think

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Speaker 3: he gets some respectable and wins close games that he

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Speaker 3: shouldn't and they'll be good on special teams and things,

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Speaker 3: you know, hidden yardage. But I does not look like

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Speaker 3: a nine win roster to me, even with an easy schedule,

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Speaker 3: And I still don't think they win more than three

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Speaker 3: games in division and then you got to go six

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Speaker 3: and five the rest of the way, And I don't

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Speaker 2: I'm completely with you. I think they will clearly take

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Speaker 2: a step forward. I don't think there'll be a pushover.

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Speaker 2: They'll play with an edge, you know, under Vayble, I

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Speaker 2: expect progress, progress totally, but I.

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Speaker 4: Still want four games last year.

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Speaker 2: I still think nine wins is definitely too rich. If

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Speaker 2: they're over under here was seven and a half. I

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Speaker 2: might still take the under.

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Speaker 5: I still might, but I'm definitely a six or seven

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Speaker 5: win Teams seven and ten wouldn't surprise me, no, And

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Speaker 5: that should be a step in the right direct That

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Speaker 5: would absolutely be a step in the right dire in

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Speaker 5: the top five last year exactly like if May looks

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Speaker 5: like a legit dude and like will need a receiver,

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Speaker 5: we still need to line help. Okay, you know, like

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Speaker 5: that's progress. But nine wins, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Another bottom of the barrel one here, Matt. To close

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Speaker 2: out the a FC East, the New York Jets Jets,

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Speaker 2: Jets Jets, just above the Browns. Five and a half

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Speaker 2: is there over under in Vegas right now, and they

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Speaker 3: Clearly, I mean, one of the hardest schedules for their division. Yes,

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Speaker 3: I'm still probably under Again. I like their coaching changes,

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Speaker 3: but it's hard for me to put my money on

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Speaker 3: an over for a team, new coach, new quarterback, especially

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Speaker 3: if it's rookie coach. Rookie quarterback. Fields is not a rookie,

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Speaker 3: but this is a first time coach, and I almost

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Speaker 3: look at first time coaches like I do rookie quarterbacks

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Speaker 3: like you might be super talent, it might have a

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Speaker 3: great career.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna have to do some learning on the job.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's some things that aren't going to go your way,

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Speaker 3: you know, like calling time out. This is Madden where

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Speaker 3: or you know, handling a team. And I just think

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Speaker 3: their passing game is very lackluster, to be kind, and

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Speaker 3: I'm not crushing Fields, but I don't think he's their

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Speaker 3: long term answer. I think they'll be in the quarterback

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Speaker 3: market when it's all said and done. Defense could be good,

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Speaker 3: running game could be good. Oh, line could be good.

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Speaker 4: It could be.

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Speaker 3: Steps in the right direction. But that's probably they're probably

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Speaker 3: picking in the top six or seven.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yes, I think even if Fields has a

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Speaker 2: great season, Yeah, they could still be picking in the

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Speaker 2: top ten. I mean, there's just not a lot of

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Speaker 2: talent on that offense. I think the offensive line will

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Speaker 2: get better as the year.

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Speaker 5: Goes along, probably like the Steelers last year, with some

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Speaker 2: I don't think the defense is a disaster, but I

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Speaker 2: don't think the defense is great either.

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Speaker 4: Agreed.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna go I'm I'm with you. I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: go under as well. And I know it's not a

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Speaker 2: very big number, but I know I think they're more

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Speaker 2: more likely to win five games in six games, and

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Speaker 2: so I'll go under.

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Speaker 3: Maybe they get two wins in the division. It's also

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Speaker 3: which would help them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you split with the Patriots, plit with the Dolphins.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you'd take that and lose the Bills.

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Speaker 2: You know a FC west here, Matt, all right, well,

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Speaker 2: pretty high they are. This is definitely definitely the highest

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Speaker 2: the only one towards the bottom of the barrel. We'll

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Speaker 2: go alphabetically out here. Denver Broncos nine and a half

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Speaker 2: is there over and under after going ten and seven

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Speaker 2: last year. Important to note as well too, and their schedule.

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Speaker 2: Matt is is kind of right towards the middle fifteenth fourteenth, so.

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Speaker 3: Towards the best division in general is kind of right down.

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Speaker 3: I don't think there's anyone that's.

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Speaker 2: I would think that they would be a little bit higher,

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Speaker 2: themselves either twice. So Bronco's fourteenth easiest schedule in the

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Speaker 2: NFL nine and a half over under.

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Speaker 4: It's a good number. It is a good number. I'm

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Speaker 4: leaning towards the over though.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I thought they had the best defense in

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Speaker 3: the league, used the first round pick there, signed the

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Speaker 3: linebacker sign of safety. Now, I don't think it'll still

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Speaker 3: be the first best defense in the league, but I'd

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Speaker 3: be shocked if it's not five or six.

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Speaker 4: Peyton's a great example of those guys to me.

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Speaker 3: That I mean, when he inherited that Russell Wilson team,

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Speaker 3: they were eight and nine and they were not a

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Speaker 3: good football team, you know, so he's always gonna be

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Speaker 3: hovering five hundred ish. I think bo Nicks is real.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he might not be superstar, but I think

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Speaker 3: he's real.

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Speaker 2: Well, he is real, like he exists. He's not artificial

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Speaker 2: intelligence out there.

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Speaker 3: They run the ball well, they got a good o line.

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Speaker 3: I think they get the ten ten and seven seems right.

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Speaker 3: But that's a good that's a good line.

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Speaker 2: That's a very good line. And I think you're right.

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Speaker 2: I bet that one had to put a chip down

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Speaker 2: on their record right now, I'd say they go ten

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Speaker 2: and seven. Again, I do think they'll be improved as

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Speaker 2: a team, but I do think that division is tough, man.

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Speaker 4: It is, But right, three and three in the division

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Speaker 4: something like that.

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Speaker 2: But if you go three and three in the division,

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Speaker 2: I think that you go seven and four the rest

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Speaker 2: of the way. I think that's doable for you. That's

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Speaker 2: kind of a middle of the road type of schedule

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Speaker 3: You talk about Kansas City, but Kansas City under Reid

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Speaker 3: and Mahomes like, don't lose division.

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Speaker 2: Games, right, that one might be changing, but.

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Speaker 4: They don't lose division games.

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Speaker 2: If it ever is going to change, this certainly feels

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Speaker 2: like the year that it that it could. Yeah, let's

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Speaker 2: talk about those Chiefs. Is there up next eleven and

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Speaker 2: a half? You know, again, tied with Baltimore, Buffalo and

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Speaker 2: Philly for the highest over under in the league. And

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Speaker 2: strength of schedule they have twenty seventh, so they have

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Speaker 2: the sixth hardest schedule in the league.

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Speaker 4: According to me, they get sh Ravens, they get the Bills.

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Speaker 3: I mean, they get the first place, first place Texans,

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Speaker 3: that type of thing. The rest of the division is

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Speaker 3: getting better. Oh, I think I'm gonna go under. But again,

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Speaker 3: I don't think I'm putting my hard earned broadcasting money

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Speaker 3: on this one. Because they could go five and won

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Speaker 3: the division. They probably will have a winning record in

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Speaker 3: the Vision, it could go six show I'm i almost

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Speaker 3: certain to have a winning record. Part of me thinks

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Speaker 3: Mahomes might be the MVP and throw a hundred million

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Speaker 3: touchdowns this year.

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Speaker 2: Like you said, he's tired of everyone talking about how

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Speaker 2: they're they're closing that gap between him and everybody else.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you've read, you have Spagnolo, you have Mahomes,

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Speaker 3: you have Chris Jones. Like that's a pretty good start.

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Speaker 3: And this team wins games. And I think they were

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Speaker 3: fifteen to.

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Speaker 4: Two last year. They were fifteen and two last year,

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Speaker 4: so I mean, that's pretty good.

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Speaker 2: Everybody talks about it like they took this huge strike.

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Speaker 4: They were fifteen and.

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Speaker 3: Lost the Super Bowl, Like what a terrible year, Like

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Speaker 3: these guys are really slippid. I'm leaning towards Under though, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and I don't have a great reason why, but that's

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Speaker 3: a good number. Again, they were fifteen when I said that,

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Speaker 3: I said under, And then I'm like, they won fifteen

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Speaker 3: games last year, and if you count the playoffs, they

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Speaker 3: won what like seventeen, right, seventeen.

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Speaker 2: And three, seventeen and three when it was all said

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Speaker 2: and down their.

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Speaker 4: Finishment, right, Yeah, they stink. I don't know why.

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Speaker 3: Maybe it's a hunch and maybe it's just respect for

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Speaker 3: the division. Yeah, I'm going to lean towards Under, but

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Speaker 3: Like there's two or three people in history that's like

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Speaker 2: Raiders up next Matt And they're a surprising one to me. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: because they're six and a half. I thought I thought

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Speaker 2: Same half teams. I thought they might be eight and

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Speaker 4: They have a quarterback.

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Speaker 3: there's just things you know about him as a coach.

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Speaker 2: I think so too, and I think they'll win more

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Speaker 4: I mean, they must have like the Browns on the

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Speaker 2: I think so too. I think they're They're one of

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Speaker 4: I thought it was an eight and a half for them.

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Speaker 2: It must have changed.

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Speaker 4: Maybe I'm just wrong, but right, Chargers.

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Speaker 3: I have great respect for Harball Division, Herbert, but they

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Speaker 3: Still think they have holes. Their d lines not great.

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Speaker 3: They lost later for the years, you know, after giving

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Speaker 4: You know. I mean, they're gonna run the ball a lot.

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Speaker 4: I'm going under on that one.

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Speaker 2: I'm going under on this as well too. And Matt,

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Speaker 2: I know that this isn't necessarily fair to Harbaugh and

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Speaker 2: like I should have said this for the Chiefs. Forget

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Speaker 2: the Taylor Swift thirteen joke that I made. I'm taking

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Speaker 2: the over for the Chiefs because I'm gonna continue to

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Speaker 3: Derrick Henry conversation, Like like I'm done betting that that

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna bet the Chiefs to do it until they don't. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's great.

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Speaker 2: And again I know that that can be a little

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Speaker 4: But like I think those things more and more of

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Speaker 3: I was meant to say that about the Jets. I mean,

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Speaker 3: not an accident. I've been watching this game for forty

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Speaker 4: I'm a little more than the Apps.

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Speaker 2: I'm thirty four, Matt, and the Pirates have made plenty

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Speaker 4: This isn't their year, but.

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Speaker 2: I'm not buying it until I see it right.

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Speaker 3: And the Lions have maybe I convinced or turned the corner.

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Speaker 3: But of all the terrible organizations, I'm gonna bet on

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Speaker 4: To be good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and again I don't even necessarily even think it

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Speaker 2: I mean, they gotta win ten games.

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Speaker 3: Chargers have always historically found a way to lose, even

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Speaker 2: I'm not picking them to win ten games. No chance either, then,

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Speaker 3: but there's still culture there.

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Speaker 2: Agreed, agreed, AFC South. When we come back to wrap

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Speaker 2: this thing up, Matt, sound like a plan to you.

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Speaker 2: We'll do some fantasy football conversation before we get out

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Speaker 2: of here as well. Plenty still to go here on

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Speaker 2: the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network.

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Speaker 1: Your tune's about Drive on your twenty four to seven

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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Matt, coming down the home stretch here of some over

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Speaker 2: under wind totals for teams across the AFC. We will

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Speaker 2: super quick.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, go ahead.

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Speaker 3: It's not big news. But we just talked about how

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Speaker 3: It's to add Tommy Cutler's they picked up the quarterbacks

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Speaker 3: mean Myers can't go back. I mean, but that's not

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Speaker 3: the reason that they cut boring. They picked up a quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Well, the Italian restaurants in New England should be happy

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Speaker 2: in the Boston area, that's for sure. Uh Texans up

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Speaker 2: on the docket back to back Division champs nine and

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Speaker 2: a half? Is there over under total matt and their schedule,

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Speaker 2: it's easy if I can find it here. Quite the opposite. Actually,

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Speaker 4: That might put a wrinkle on things.

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Speaker 3: I was leaning towards the over pretty strong, assuming they

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Speaker 2: The division, though, is.

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Speaker 4: I mean they should They got to win five.

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Speaker 2: They should win five games in the division. If they

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Speaker 3: Again, that's kind of where I'm at too. I really

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Speaker 4: Well, this is one of the.

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Speaker 3: Their edge pass rushers are every BIS goes a Steelers now.

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Speaker 2: I feel like they've done that a lot. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: They're not getting right and they're not getting right, and

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Speaker 3: I don't know what they will. But they got weapons,

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Speaker 2: That that's where I'm at.

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Speaker 4: It looks like a playoff team all day long.

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Speaker 2: And we'll do that kind of stuff again next week.

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Speaker 2: But I'm gonna pick them to win the division, and

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Speaker 2: that to me signals that I think they're gonna win

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Speaker 4: I doubt they're a nine win.

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Speaker 2: I would lean closer to eleven than nine if he

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Speaker 2: I think that's a good number at nine and a half.

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Speaker 2: But I'll take the over.

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Speaker 3: I feel pretty good about it too. I don't love

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Speaker 2: Right they should go five and one in those games?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, and.

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Speaker 2: I realized they got the first play schedule, so they

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Speaker 3: Or I mean, if you win one of those three,

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Speaker 2: But they have the twelfth easiest schedule in the National

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Speaker 2: Football League.

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Speaker 3: Doesn't surprise me. They always hover around seven or eight like.

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Speaker 2: They don't bottom out.

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Speaker 4: They don't.

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Speaker 2: They don't get close to ten really.

446
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Speaker 3: Even at with like post luck when they're going through

447
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Speaker 3: a new quarterback.

448
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Speaker 4: Every year they win six.

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Speaker 3: Run the ball, okay, play the acent decent defense. I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna go under though. I just think you're gonna see

451
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Speaker 3: Jones for two games, Richardson for two games, Jones for

452
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Speaker 3: two games. That's a tough way to live. They admit

453
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Speaker 3: some o line changes. They get a lot of weapons.

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Speaker 3: I think their coaching staff is average, and I mean

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Speaker 3: that not positive or negative average. I'm gonna go Underna.

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Speaker 3: Also think Jacksonville could be better this year. I know

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Speaker 3: we'll get to them. I'm not sure that they're all

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Speaker 3: push over two wins. Colts might win two games in division.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're an interesting one because the line though. I

460
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Speaker 2: don't think that they will bought them out. They they

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Speaker 2: have it. It's another one of those kind of organizational things.

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean, Like kind are who they are.

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Speaker 2: But I definitely think they're closer to a six or

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Speaker 2: seven win team than they are to an eight or

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Speaker 2: nine win team. Yeah, so I will I will go

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Speaker 2: under as well. I bet you they win about six

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Speaker 2: or seven.

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Speaker 3: You know, all these lists and things, I mean, who's

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Speaker 3: the best team, who's the best defense, who is the

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Speaker 3: best receivers?

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Speaker 4: In a mail bag.

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Speaker 3: Two weeks ago or whatever, I was asked, who's the

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Speaker 3: most average franchise in the league?

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Speaker 4: Colts came with the Colts like they're just right down

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Speaker 4: the middle.

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Speaker 2: They're fisher of NFL franchise.

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Speaker 4: That's probably the Colts.

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Speaker 3: If you game a quarterback, maybe they get the ten wins,

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Speaker 3: but probably win the Super Bowl, not win the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: But you know, there's something about history with these organizations.

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Speaker 2: Talking about the best of the worst.

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Speaker 4: Who's the most average? Who's the most average? Right?

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Speaker 2: Culture is a very good answer, very good answer. Uh.

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Speaker 2: Also there at seven and a half matt are the

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Speaker 2: Jacksonville Jaguars.

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Speaker 4: But their strength schedule is probably very similar.

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Speaker 2: Strength of schedule sixth easiest actually in the National Football League,

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Speaker 2: so favorable in that regard, I'm going over.

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Speaker 4: I think they come in second in that division. Eight

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Speaker 4: or nine wins, yeah, not ten.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I still think they have problems. I'm a

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Speaker 3: Lawrence true. I mean, it's hard to talk me off

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Speaker 3: the Lawrence train.

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Speaker 4: Are you boys gonna give you grief about that weekend?

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Speaker 4: They do?

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Speaker 3: And I get it because there's a lot of bad

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Speaker 3: tape out there. But I just think Connor and Thomas

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Speaker 3: and the new coaching staff and an easy schedule.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't happen now for Trevor Lawrence. It's hard to say.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, I know, it's put up a shut

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Speaker 3: up time. I don't feel super strong about this, but

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Speaker 3: seven and ten seems like kind.

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Speaker 4: Of a disaster year for that organization.

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Speaker 3: I think they're better than that. But I mean, this

505
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Speaker 3: is not my favorite bet of the week or anything.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this one's intriguing to me because I believe it.

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Speaker 2: Liam Cohen me too, and I like Travis Hunter. I

508
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Speaker 2: like what they did with the with the pick.

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Speaker 4: I don't know though, that they're far from a complete team.

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Speaker 2: They're far from a complete team. I don't know if

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Speaker 2: I see five or six wins, but I could see

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Speaker 2: seven and ten.

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Speaker 4: It's also one of the organizations that you bet against.

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Speaker 2: That's every kind of where I'm leaning. So I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: go under. We'll splity, we'll split on that. I know

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Speaker 2: we've had a couple that we've disagreed on. Yeah, I'll

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Speaker 2: go under again. I don't think they're gonna win four

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Speaker 2: or five games.

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, but I'm leaning.

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Speaker 2: Towards not giving them the benefit of the doubt until

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Speaker 2: I see it. And again, I believe in Liam Cohen,

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Speaker 2: but first time head coach as well too. You know,

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Speaker 2: he might have to take a lump or two on

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Speaker 2: the j out.

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Speaker 4: It's a great call.

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Speaker 3: I mean I think that I think the team in

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Speaker 3: the franchise will make progress. Does that mean you go

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Speaker 3: eight to nine? And when your bet? Not necessarily, it

529
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Speaker 3: might just be like, oh, Lawrence looks like a.

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Speaker 2: Real seven ten would be progressed. Top five pick last year.

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Speaker 3: And Lawrence was playing like the eleventh best quarterback in

532
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Speaker 3: the league. It's like, okay, this is going the right direction.

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Speaker 3: It was worth the higher and you still lose.

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Speaker 4: Your bet, right.

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Speaker 2: All right, Matt, winding this down here for the AFC,

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Speaker 2: for the AFC South, for this exercise, for today, the

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Speaker 2: Tennessee Titans. You just speaking of organizations turning over a

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Speaker 2: new leaf. Tennessee certainly amongst that group towards the bottom

539
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Speaker 2: of the barrel, five and a half is there. Over

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Speaker 2: and under. They do have the eighth easiest schedule in

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Speaker 2: the NFL. According to Lawrence sharp Man, I think I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna go under, not like not like one or two wins,

543
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Speaker 2: but I think I'm gonna go under.

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Speaker 3: I think I'm going over, But I also think I'm

545
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Speaker 3: taking too many overs, and you can't.

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Speaker 4: You got to balance these.

547
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Speaker 2: But it's just that glass of coffee you have there

548
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 2: is that money. It's a mug is half full for

549
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Speaker 2: Matt Williams and today, like I've.

550
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Speaker 3: Heard teams, people say, well, two years ago Stroud goes

551
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Speaker 3: second overall and then that team.

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Speaker 4: Wins double digits.

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Speaker 3: Last year Washington Daniel go second overall, and this year

554
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Speaker 3: that's Ward is gonna be that guy easy schedule. They

555
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:10,919
Speaker 3: actually have a legit o line coaches. Second year, I

556
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Speaker 3: think they get the six but six and eleven seven

557
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Speaker 3: at most, you know, Like, again, I see progress, I

558
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 3: see a better quarterback.

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Speaker 4: But I think it's.

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Speaker 3: Gonna be a really rocky road. And they just don't

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Speaker 3: have a lot of talent. The defense is missing some things.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go over, but very reluctantly. Again, I think

563
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Speaker 3: this is a team that has shows progress, whether progress

564
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Speaker 3: doesn't mean more wins always, you know, And but five

565
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Speaker 3: seems like a pretty bad year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I'm leaning that way though.

567
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Speaker 4: That's a good line.

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Speaker 2: I like it's a good line. I like cam Ward.

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Speaker 4: I do too.

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Speaker 2: I believe you and Dale did this same exercise. Motes

571
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Speaker 2: and I did this exercise. Actually, you know what we

572
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Speaker 2: might we might have stolen it from you guys know

573
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Speaker 2: now that I'm recalling, but where you leading up to

574
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Speaker 2: the draft, you pick as the Steelers every pick up

575
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Speaker 2: until where oh right, right, right right. So you're on

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Speaker 2: the clocket pick one, who do you take?

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Speaker 4: Here? Do you take? Okay?

578
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Speaker 2: Then that guy's off the boards. You're on the clock

579
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Speaker 2: at pick two? Who do you take?

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Speaker 3: This is what teams do because worst case scenario is

581
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Speaker 3: the wrong nineteen guys.

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Speaker 2: And it's a fun exercise to do in kind of

583
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Speaker 2: the radio offseason format that we have. I think Motes

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Speaker 2: and I did that, maybe great.

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Speaker 3: Edge rushers you're not even taking in your top twenty

586
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Speaker 3: because I'm the Steelers don't need him totally.

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Speaker 2: I think I think Motes and I did that. I

588
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Speaker 2: want to say three or four different times leading up

589
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Speaker 2: to the draft, and every time I took cam Ward first,

590
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Speaker 2: Like for me, the question really started with after him, where.

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Speaker 4: Would you go? You know, would.

592
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Speaker 2: You take a pass rusher? Would you take Travis Hunter?

593
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Speaker 4: Where you know? Where you going?

594
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Speaker 2: I believe in cam Ward. I think you're right. I

595
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,440
Speaker 2: think Titans fans will feel better about their future after

596
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 2: this season, but I don't think it necessarily translates to

597
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Speaker 2: six wins. So I'm gonna go under.

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Speaker 3: I know, they really seem like a five or six

599
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Speaker 3: win team to me, like maybe seven.

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Speaker 4: I can't imagine eight.

601
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Speaker 2: Division helps though, Yeah, they could go three and three

602
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Speaker 2: in the division.

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Speaker 4: They three and three in the division, and if they do.

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Speaker 3: That itself makes me. When you said that, I'm like, Okay,

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Speaker 3: I'm now I'm a little more confident the over three

606
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Speaker 3: and three in the divisions. Not asking that much, it's

607
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 3: really not yeah, right, if you could sweep the Colts or.

608
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Speaker 2: Whatever, Man, maybe I should know. I'm sticking. I'm sticking

609
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Speaker 2: with my guns with it. I'm sticking with it. So

610
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 2: there's the AFC over and unders. Okay, we'll do NFC tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: I'm plenty of fantasy football tomorrow as well too, certainly.

612
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Speaker 2: But to close things down today, Matt, you want to

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Speaker 2: take a look at your tight end power ranking. Sure,

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Speaker 2: we'll do that, to take a look at some fantasy

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Speaker 2: football before we get up out of here. On the

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Speaker 2: other side, West Huler, Matt Williamson, it is the Drive

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Speaker 2: here on Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network.

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Speaker 1: Your Teams about Drive on your twenty four to seven

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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Down the home stretch here of the drive on this Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: A reminder, Matt, you're always good about doing this stuff.

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Speaker 2: We will have a show tomorrow on Thursday, and then

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Speaker 2: off on Friday for the extra long weekend before we

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Speaker 2: really get rocking.

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Speaker 3: And.

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Speaker 4: Many days off after that, and.

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Speaker 2: Then after that, you know, yeah, not that Like this

628
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Speaker 2: probably sounds morbid, but like I always say to my buddies, like,

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Speaker 2: once football season starts, like unless one of my grandparents

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Speaker 2: pass away, that's the only way I'm getting a day

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Speaker 2: That's the only way I'm getting a day off a show.

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Speaker 3: This sounds real morbid, But I joke with my parents.

633
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,199
Speaker 3: I'm like, don't die on draft day, dude.

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Speaker 2: That's way more morbid than what I was saying.

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Speaker 3: I'm tied up for the they're in the draft, I mean,

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Speaker 3: and Sundays during the season is not the best time either.

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Speaker 2: So no, it's not a lot of dudes like to

638
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 2: do the no fall weddings.

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Speaker 4: You can't have a fall wedding.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but for you and I, it's like, literally, you

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00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:13,920
Speaker 2: can't have a fall wedding or we will not be there.

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Speaker 3: I told you one of my absolute best friends got

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Speaker 3: married on the day Hinsfield. At the time opened. It

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00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 3: was Pitt versus Central Florida, and I didn't go. I

645
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 3: mean I was employed by Pitt at the time. I

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Speaker 3: was on the sideline.

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Speaker 2: I am missing my cousin's wedding opening weekend when we're

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Speaker 2: in New York. I am missing one of my best

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Speaker 2: friends from high school's wedding end of September when we're

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Speaker 2: in Dublin.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Two, that's two, just this fall, and it's usually like

653
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Speaker 2: that every single year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, my friends are pretty much done getting married, but

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Speaker 3: I mean went through that same thing in the early

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Speaker 3: twenties and breaking into business.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, man, is what it is. Time for our fantasy

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Speaker 2: football focus to get us up out of here for today,

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Speaker 2: Matt and we will talk your tight end power rankings

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Speaker 2: and number one atop the rankings. I think this better

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Speaker 2: be number one atop everybody's rankings. Yeah, you've got some

663
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 2: splaining to do. It's brock Bauers coming off of maybe

664
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 2: the best season we've ever seen for a rookie tight

665
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 2: end in the NFL.

666
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 4: Ridiculous.

667
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 3: I mean, he was one of the best receivers let

668
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 3: alone tight ends numbers wise last year. And he passes

669
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 3: the eyeball test all day long and what's crazy. So

670
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 3: I think that there's a three man top tier, but

671
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 3: he's clearly number one. And it even increases more if

672
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 3: Jacobe Myers gets moved. Now they haven't shown this in

673
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 3: the preseason. It's a new coach, new offensive coordinator, new quarterback.

674
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 3: Can't a new quarterback. I can't envision them not running

675
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 3: the entire passing game through Bowers. I mean they did

676
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 3: last year, but it'd be nuts to me if that's

677
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 3: why you take the job. You know what I mean,

678
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 3: I mean, that's your best asset is an organization. And

679
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 3: if Roderick Jones were sitting here or any of those

680
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 3: unbelievable Georgia first round picks from the last two three

681
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 3: four years, every time any of those dudes are interviewed,

682
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 3: who was the best guy? You had Bowers our best player,

683
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 3: like amongst first round picks. They looked at him like

684
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 3: that was our best player. Yeah, and it's one hundred

685
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 3: percent translated.

686
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 2: Oh, he's unbelievable.

687
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 4: He's unbelievable and miss you know.

688
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 2: With an upgrade at quarterback, yeah, and a upgrade at

689
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 2: running back.

690
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 3: I think they'll get more first downs and more opportunities

691
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 3: run more plays. Maybe catch two or three more touchdowns.

692
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 2: You know he could be in for another special season.

693
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, certainly.

694
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

695
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's going like middle of the second round in

696
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 3: fantasy drafts, and I don't have a problem with it.

697
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 2: I he has been going pretty high, but you're right.

698
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 2: I think it's a pretty safe bet as well. It

699
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 2: might not have the highest ceiling for you, but I

700
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 2: think it's a pretty high floor there.

701
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, certainly.

702
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 3: Like when Kelsey was in his prime and he was

703
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 3: going in that neighborhood, it was a really nice feeling, though,

704
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 3: And my tight end is going to score like a

705
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 3: receiver every week.

706
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 4: He's gonna give me thirteen fourteen touchdowns, like having an

707
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 4: extra starter. It really is.

708
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a great point.

709
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 4: So I think there's a three man first tier though,

710
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 4: because number one.

711
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 2: Trey McBride number two. And I like this because I

712
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 2: nabbed him later on. I don't remember exactly what round

713
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 2: that I got him in our fantasy draft last week

714
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 2: with all my high school buddies, but I felt very

715
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 2: good about the value of where I got him. Yeah,

716
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 2: I think he's another guy who could be in for

717
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 2: a big statistical season.

718
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 3: They just gave me a huge contract. He's their number

719
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 3: one receiver. He has one negative, but it's not sticky.

720
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 3: I mean he only caught one touchdown I think last

721
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 3: year and still was one of the highest scoring tight

722
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 3: ends in the league for fantasy maybe. I mean, there's

723
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 3: some dudes in history like Julio Jones Andre Johnson didn't

724
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 3: catch that many touchdowns for whatever reason.

725
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 4: Julio was a weird outlier. It's a weird outlier like that.

726
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 2: He had like eighteen hundred yards receiving and two touchdowo.

727
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 3: Touchdowns, and Andre Johnson was that way, you know, where

728
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 3: there's a big enough body of work where it's like

729
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 3: this probably isn't the fluke, but I'm gonna go with

730
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 3: that's a fluke.

731
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 4: I mean, he's a top.

732
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 3: Target, him and Marvin Harrison and get the ball over

733
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 3: and over and over.

734
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 4: I bet he ends up with six plus touchdowns.

735
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 3: And if he would have last year, he'd have been

736
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 3: right on Bowers nipping on his heels for best tight

737
00:31:59,040 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 3: end the league.

738
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally. Yeah, hens tons of targets and I would

739
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 2: expect that to continue. Yeah, George Kittle number three still

740
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 2: in the tier one of this conversation in your mind.

741
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, and like his fantasy career is a little frustrating

742
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 3: because it's just a Shanahan thing, Like this is a

743
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 3: Debo week, this is an Ayuk week, this is a

744
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 3: Kiddle week. So there's always been like three or four

745
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 3: weeks a year where he only gets your four or

746
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 3: five points and somebody else blows up in a great offense.

747
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 4: But all those dudes are hurt.

748
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 3: I mean, Ayuk's hurt, Deebo's gone, Jwan Jennings is whole now,

749
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 3: Pierce All's the number one tight receiver, but he's unproven

750
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 3: and young, you know, I mean, other than McCaffrey, I

751
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 3: think the ball's got to go to Kittle over and

752
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 3: over and over, and he's not slowing down at all.

753
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 3: Like Kelsey's not the top anymore. Kittle's I think, the

754
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 3: best player at his position right now in the NFL

755
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 3: all around. Yeah right, I mean he's a hall of

756
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 3: famer who's playing like a hall of famer.

757
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 2: That's Tier one. Those top three guys.

758
00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 4: Yes, and then these next two are together.

759
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 2: Sam Laporta young still just twenty four years old. I

760
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 2: mean he could what if he takes a step forward

761
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 2: this season and what he could become and TJ Hawkinson,

762
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 2: who's been another one of these kind of main stays.

763
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 4: For a while. Absolutely.

764
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 3: Now I don't think the feeling trade changes my tune

765
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 3: on Hawkinson, but Addison being out, Hawkinson's gonna get.

766
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 4: A spike as well.

767
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 3: Laporta had some injuries early, but then finished the season

768
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 3: really really strong, only in his third year, really talented.

769
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 3: Hawkinson's another year removed from a major injury. Now, guys

770
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 3: in this neighborhood I don't draft very often because they

771
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 3: still go pretty high. I seem to get one of

772
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 3: the top three, or I have some guys I really

773
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 3: like that I've ranked ahead everybody else that I hope

774
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 3: people aren't listening, but I bet they are.

775
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 2: If you're one of Matt's friends who's making the trip

776
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 2: to Deep Creek this weekend, hit pause and save this

777
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 2: for later.

778
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 3: But I think you're real happy with Laporta and Hawkinson.

779
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 3: I mean, I think that they're b pluses.

780
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 2: Mark Andrews number six, another mainstay on the list. But

781
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 2: you think maybe he takes a little bit of a

782
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 2: step back hit a weird.

783
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 4: Year he was.

784
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 3: He had a car accident right before the season and

785
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 3: started the season really slow, and he didn't and he

786
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 3: dropped the touchdown.

787
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, the big play that you are mad.

788
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 4: At him, blah blah blah.

789
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 3: But he finished the season extremely strong. Likely's out for

790
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,359
Speaker 3: I think the first six weeks of the season. They

791
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 3: don't throw the ball a ton. But he's still Lamar's

792
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 3: favorite guy.

793
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 2: Which means something, means plenty.

794
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 3: Most of the lists I look at have him at

795
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 3: like eight or nine, and I think that's tight ends

796
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 3: fade away slow.

797
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,320
Speaker 2: I mean even Kelsey, Even Kelsey, everyone's like it's a

798
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 2: it's a down year. He still had close to a

799
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 2: thousand yards and a handful of touchdowns right in a

800
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 2: down year.

801
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:47,760
Speaker 4: The great tight ends fade away slow.

802
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he is certainly one of those guys.

803
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 4: Now these next two or the two that I like

804
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 4: and have, I was.

805
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 2: Gonna say this next guy, Tucker Craft, it's seven, Uh,

806
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 2: pretty high on your list there, Explain yourself, Matthew.

807
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 4: Most people have him like eleven or twelve.

808
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 2: Nice young not like most people have him at sex

809
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:06,879
Speaker 2: when you've got to miss seven. But that's I think

810
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 2: the highest I've seen him.

811
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 3: I mean, like, you're gonna get him in every draft

812
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,359
Speaker 3: if you take him as a seventh tight end.

813
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 4: Off the board. I just love his tape. He is nasty.

814
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,479
Speaker 4: He kind of reminds me of Kiddle twenty four as well.

815
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they they drafted a receiver in the

816
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 3: first round, but I'm a big, big Jordan Love fan.

817
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 3: They don't have a true number one receiver. All their

818
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 3: receivers are smallish too. Like he's the red zone guy,

819
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 3: He's great after the catch. I just think he's about

820
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 3: to erupt. Is maybe like the next best tight.

821
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 2: End this non fantasy football question, just real quick. If

822
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 2: you could take him or Sam Laporter right now you're

823
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 2: starting a team Madden style?

824
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 4: Who you going with?

825
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 2: Because both twenty.

826
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 3: Four Craft, But I'm in the minority, Okay, Laporta is

827
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 3: a better body of work. I just think Craft is

828
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 3: more physical. More like if I if all the Steeler

829
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 3: tight ends.

830
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 4: Evaporated, right and you can win one of those guys,

831
00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 4: I would take Craft because of the physicality.

832
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 2: And number eight your first rookie on this list, and

833
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 2: I know we'll get to another one. Two very talented

834
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 2: tight end rookies in this class.

835
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 3: Tyler Warren so history lesson it used to be. In

836
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 3: the fantasy world, rookie tight ends are a stale huge.

837
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 2: No, No, Like we talked about that adage forever of quarterbacks,

838
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 2: accuracy can't get better in the NFL. That's what they

839
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 2: do until they do. That was kind of like the

840
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 2: tight end thing and fantasy football for so long was

841
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 2: don't take a rookie tight end until brock Bowers happens.

842
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 4: And even Pitts a.

843
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 3: Couple of years ago had a thousand yards like that.

844
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 3: It never happened, takes age twenty seven when they hit

845
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 3: their stride. We brought that up over and over. So

846
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 3: when I worked for ESPN, if you would the ESPN

847
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 3: Fantasy ranks, like if you're if you're drafting on ESPN,

848
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 3: how we did it back then? There were eleven of

849
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 3: us that had to vote, and I would go to

850
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 3: Bristol for like five days.

851
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 2: Yes, I remember you telling me about it.

852
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 4: That's pretty cool. It was awesome, a lot of fun. Way,

853
00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:58,280
Speaker 4: it was a blast.

854
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,360
Speaker 3: It was like Matthew Berry and you know, and we

855
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 3: all I was one of the eleven that got a football,

856
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,399
Speaker 3: and yeah, we'd fight it out like this guy should

857
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 3: be about of this guy And I'll never forget because

858
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 3: it was he was like the eighth pick in the draft.

859
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 3: It was Eric Ebron and half the rooms like, this

860
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,320
Speaker 3: guy's an awesome prospect. He's gonna get a ton of balls.

861
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,439
Speaker 3: Detroit stinks he needs a ball, and the other halfs

862
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 3: like rookie tight end. You're right right, and we'll never

863
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 3: forget sitting there with some of the dudes that are

864
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,800
Speaker 3: well known in the fantasy community fighting about Eric Hebron.

865
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 4: But times changed and you.

866
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:34,320
Speaker 3: Draft Warren already in the in the preseason, they're really

867
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 3: doing a lot to manufacture targets for him, Like Loveland

868
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 3: is a lot lower for me because Loveland's more of

869
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 3: a beat you one on one guy, where Warren they

870
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,839
Speaker 3: designed they will him over just like Penn State did.

871
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 3: And beat writers already talking about how he's gonna be

872
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 3: their toush push guy, which is awesome for fantasy. If

873
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 3: he gets two rushing touchdowns is a tight end. I

874
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 3: bet he ends up with one hundred rushing yards. You know,

875
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 3: even no Jones and richardson run and plus Jones is

876
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 3: so conservative, I think he's a dumpodo.

877
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so it's a bit of a leap of faith,

878
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 4: But I like Orrin could have a really good year.

879
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 2: I think he's going to be a focal point of

880
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 2: that Colts offense for sure, a couple veterans David and

881
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:19,359
Speaker 2: Joku at nine and Travis Taylor Swift Kelsey at ten.

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Speaker 4: There's not much else in Cleveland, and they always designed him.

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Speaker 2: He's a good like every year. He's a solid fantasy

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Speaker 2: football player.

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Speaker 3: They throw the ball a lot and he does a

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Speaker 3: lot after the catch, and I think their coach likes

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Speaker 3: him and design stuff for him. Kelsey's weird because I

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Speaker 3: think they're going to really drop his snapcounts.

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Speaker 4: But red zone and third down he's gonna be out there.

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Speaker 2: Still gives you eight hundred yards and seven or eight touchdowns.

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Speaker 3: He might get twelve. I mean they'll do ring around

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Speaker 3: the rosie at the two yard line. And who do

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Speaker 3: you think Mahomes is going to throw the ball to

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Speaker 3: in the end zones? We am correct, So he might

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Speaker 3: not have the volume, but I bet he has the.

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Speaker 4: High quality touches totally. Matt.

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Speaker 2: We got like two or three. It's here, yeah, number eleven,

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Speaker 2: Evans ingram I twelve, Dalton Kincaid thirteen, Dallas Goddard. He's

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Speaker 2: an intriguing one to me with some of the injury style.

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Speaker 4: I'm a big fan but he said through the ball

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Speaker 4: very much.

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Speaker 2: They don't, and when they do, it's to one of

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Speaker 2: those two talented wide receivers.

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Speaker 4: I love the player.

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Speaker 2: And then Colson Lovelin the second rookie.

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Speaker 4: At fourteen, and then after that it gets pretty thin.

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Speaker 2: Kyle Pitts Senior at fifteen? Are you kind of out

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Speaker 2: on him from at least certainly a fantasy football perspective.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to be my starter in a twelve

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Speaker 3: team league, that's for sure. I mean, maybe I would

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Speaker 3: just let him sit on my roster and see if

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Speaker 3: he's turned the page or not. kN Kaid's kind of

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Speaker 3: like that to another first round tight end. But the

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Speaker 3: Bills don't have a number one like Drake London, so

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Speaker 3: maybe they give him more involved.

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Speaker 4: That whole neighborhood's a little wishy washy for me.

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Speaker 2: One thing that I wanted to ask you before we

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Speaker 2: get out of here. You have John hus Smith at

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Speaker 2: twenty one. Yeah, Pat Fryarmouth at twenty three destroys them both.

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Speaker 2: That's kind of what I'm thinking, right is it's just

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Speaker 2: like a.

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Speaker 4: When John new was a dolphin. I think I had

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Speaker 4: him at seven.

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Speaker 2: And you probably you probably had pad a few spots right,

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Speaker 2: like in the top fifteen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he was like in that God.

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Speaker 2: Which makes sense. Two dogs only one bone, two tight ends,

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Speaker 2: only one.

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Speaker 4: Ball, gonna play a lot totally. Yeah, I mean would

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Speaker 4: rather have John Friar mouth Man.

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Speaker 2: I think I would lean towards I don't know, I

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Speaker 2: might say I think I would lean towards John hu

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Speaker 2: just because of the year that he had last year.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think catches more touchdowns.

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Speaker 2: Friar Mooth certainly could touch Cautch more touchdowns. And we

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Speaker 2: saw it seems like Aaron Rodgers really likes Friar Moose.

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Speaker 4: They definitely have something going on.

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Speaker 2: Like every practice we were at they were always doing

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Speaker 2: extra stuff and working together.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think maybe that changed.

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Speaker 2: But that's what would be my answer.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Like if we break that in terms of how the.

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Speaker 2: Steelers to play him on Sundays to win games, I'm.

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Speaker 4: Gonna love it.

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Speaker 2: Oh, but but not not to get me points in

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Speaker 2: a fantasy football set.

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Speaker 3: Now, Like I have a dynasty team where they were

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Speaker 3: my two or two tight end and I'm like, oh, bam.

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Speaker 2: That's tough for that's tough for you to live with

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Speaker 2: it before. Now they're brutal if it was your Madden franchise,

952
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Speaker 2: you'd be like, this is great.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but it wouldn't shock me that uh, Washington, Smith

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Speaker 3: and Friarmouth all get like two thirds of the snaps.

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Speaker 2: Agreed, you know, agreed, and that's gonna that's not great

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Speaker 2: for pure fantasy football conversation, Matt, good stuff today, Tomorrow,

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Speaker 2: NFC over unders and plenty of fantasy football conversation the

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Speaker 2: wider right, that's going to be a long one. Maybe, yeah,

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Speaker 2: it would be some league news.

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Speaker 4: Maybe we'll do it.

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Speaker 2: Maybe we'll do a couple of rounds of mock draft

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Speaker 2: fantasy football style as well to head us into the weekend.

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Speaker 2: So plenty to get too before we get up out

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Speaker 2: of here tomorrow. But that will do it for today

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Speaker 2: for Matt Williamson. I'm West Shuler. As always, you know

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Speaker 2: where to find us. It's on your twenty four to

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Speaker 2: seven home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio

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