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Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know are

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Speaker 1: you a Charlotte? Hi? Everybody, welcome back to Are You

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Speaker 1: a Charlotte? Today we have a very fun episode of

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Speaker 1: Catching up with Friends. We are talking to Jason McDonald,

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Speaker 1: who played a character named Emerson in season two episode

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Speaker 1: thirteen Games People Play, where he filmed a storyline with

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Speaker 1: me that got fully cut out, and he has some

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Speaker 1: really great memories. I think I flirted a lot with him.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure. He's a really really interesting guy. I'm

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Speaker 1: going to try to find this footage and share it

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Speaker 1: with all of us, but in the meantime, I'm going

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Speaker 1: to put the polaroids he had of us way way, way,

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Speaker 1: way way back up on the Instagram for everyone to see.

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Speaker 1: This is a fun walk down memory lane with Jason McDonald. Hello, Hey, Chris,

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Speaker 1: are you I'm all right? How are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm good? It's been you know how many years?

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Speaker 1: Twenty twenty five, twenty five, yeah, something like that. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I mean you need to tell us everything. Okay, Okay,

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Speaker 1: Jason McDonald. Everyone who emailed us very sweetly with some

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Speaker 1: memories that I cannot wait to hear.

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Speaker 2: And they're very different from your memories, I'm sure, but

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Speaker 2: it was. It was like the first big booking of

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Speaker 2: my career. So I was so excited to work with you.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean I'd done soap operators and commercials in the

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Speaker 2: theater and stuff, but it was like my birth And

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Speaker 2: I remember auditioning. I didn't audition season one, but they

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Speaker 2: started bringing me in season two and I had auditioned

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Speaker 2: what's the role Steve Brady?

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Speaker 1: No way to be fine?

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Speaker 2: What was his name?

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Speaker 1: David?

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Speaker 2: David? And he was great? He was Terri. Yes. Yes,

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Speaker 2: It's funny because I was working at a restaurant in

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Speaker 2: so and Jenny Bicks came in for dinner and sat

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Speaker 2: at the bar whereas bartending, and she was like, oh

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Speaker 2: my god, we just saw you for like that role.

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Speaker 1: I was thinking, wow, so what happened?

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Speaker 2: Oh well, I didn't get that roll. Then I understood

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Speaker 2: I auditioned for mister Pussy.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, so you auditioned for so many important parts? Wow?

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Speaker 1: I know.

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Speaker 2: And then when I ended up getting which was Emerson

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Speaker 2: on that episode games People Play right that Jenny wrote,

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Speaker 2: and they cut our whole storyline.

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Speaker 1: And why what did we do? Tell me everything? Because

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Speaker 1: I don't have a clear memory.

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Speaker 2: Okay. So it was a bridge party. It was Upper

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Speaker 2: east Side bridge party. We were bridge partners, okay. And

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Speaker 2: then it was like this, you know, high end, upper

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Speaker 2: were making eyes across the room from each other, and

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Speaker 2: then we ended up being partners. And then someone accused

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Speaker 2: us of cheating. And then we went around the corner

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Speaker 2: and you put me up against the book shelf and

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Speaker 2: kissed me. Yeah, you don't remember this. We should talk

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Speaker 2: to Jenny, okay, read it?

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, okay, So this is very bold of Charlotte.

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Speaker 1: I'm impressed. Okay, good, okay. Wow.

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Speaker 2: And then whoever the host? This is so weird that

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Speaker 2: I remember this? Why do remember this?

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Speaker 1: The character?

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Speaker 2: The character's name was Mimi Ousenbach, remember that? And your

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Speaker 2: and your I think the VEO was like, was Sarah's

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Speaker 2: character saying, and Charlotte got kicked out of Mimi Ausenbock's

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Speaker 1: Wow, kind of like clue, like like games people play

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Speaker 2: Wow, that was my memory and I was, and you

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Speaker 2: were so freaking kind like we shot really late that night.

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Speaker 2: That was m we were and you had your dog there,

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Speaker 2: And I met Cynthia because you guys were good friends,

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Speaker 2: and she was there doing something and we hung out.

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Speaker 2: We hung out in your dressing room and we talked.

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Speaker 2: Yeah? That was it. That was my one day on

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Speaker 1: I'm so sad. I'm so sad for us what happens.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's been a good story for me for

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Speaker 2: the past twenty five years. It was good.

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Speaker 1: I'm so glad. I'm so glad. I mean, it makes

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Speaker 1: me wonder. When I watched the episode, I did feel like, gosh,

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Speaker 1: John bon Jovi and therefore, yeah, you know, it's never

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Speaker 1: really no one can compete with John bon Jovie. That

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Speaker 1: to have another version of that. So I wonder I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna ask Jenny because I do feel like there was

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Speaker 1: had gotten the collection of DVDs, that there were some

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I had said something to Jenny when we were

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Speaker 2: I was on her show Welcome to Flatch for two weeks.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, tell us about that this is so incredible. So wait,

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Speaker 2: And then you fast forward to twenty twenty and I

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Speaker 2: auditioned for this Fox comedy called what was called This

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Speaker 2: Jenny know that I played Emerson in her episode and

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Speaker 2: twenty years ago that fun. When I did my chemistry read,

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Speaker 2: which we did over Skype, Wow, Jenny was like hi,

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Speaker 2: jasaon like like nothing change. It was like she remembered.

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Speaker 1: I love it. No, Jenny's amazing, amazing, amazing. We have

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Speaker 2: Yeah. There was a guy that guest starret on Welcome

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Speaker 1: She from Yeah, yeah, yeah, she's the best she was.

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Speaker 2: And then then when we you know, when I booked

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Speaker 2: you look the same, No, but thank you. Yeah she's lovely.

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Speaker 2: But here's here's a story, Kristen.

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Speaker 1: So tell me.

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Speaker 2: No one tells you when you're cut out of something.

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Speaker 2: So I had some friends over to watch the episode

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Speaker 2: They didn't cut the storyline because of us.

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Speaker 1: Oh thank god.

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Speaker 2: It was a timing time thing or something, or they

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Speaker 2: But I think it was the John bon Jovi thing.

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Speaker 1: But usually it existed. I'm just guessing that John bun Jovi,

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Speaker 1: So where are you now?

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Speaker 2: In Park Slope in Brooklyn?

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Speaker 1: Wait, there was a something in your bio about an

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I was in Atlanta for a few years and

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Speaker 2: opened an acting studio down there. But I'm teaching here

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Speaker 2: in Brooklyn now at Terry Nickerbocker Studio.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, Terry nicker Rocker. That's cool.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I teach on camera, so fantastic.

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Speaker 1: You know, on camera is so important because almost no

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, with self tapes being the thing.

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Speaker 1: Now, oh my god.

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Speaker 2: And these kids who had Terry Nickerbocker, I call them kids.

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Speaker 2: They're in their twenties, but I understand, you know, so

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Speaker 2: voice and movement and all of the Meisner and they

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Speaker 1: Like I love it so much. I love it so much.

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Speaker 2: with Kristen Davis? It's still it's still going on. Yeah, yeah, Okay, this.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, he's really upsetting thing. But at least you got

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Speaker 2: And she was amazing, and you know that show was

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Speaker 2: It's funny. I moved to la like I said, shortly

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Speaker 2: well I did this great role with Kristian Davis, and

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Speaker 1: Now, yeah, we need to find these scenes and post

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Speaker 1: You've been on everything ever made, and I'm just sad

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Speaker 1: was like some embarrassing something at that at that phase.

435
00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:16,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, well like mister pussy.

436
00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:20,680
Speaker 1: Right exactly, mortifying, mortifying. So wait, what was the ending?

437
00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,240
Speaker 1: So I push you up against the bookcase and we kiss,

438
00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:24,040
Speaker 1: and then what happened?

439
00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,040
Speaker 2: And then the host of the thing finds us and

440
00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,640
Speaker 2: it's like leave, you have to leave now, there's none

441
00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:30,679
Speaker 2: of this. You know, this won't be tolerated or something I.

442
00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:32,560
Speaker 1: Don't know, and that's it.

443
00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,280
Speaker 2: We had to just skulk out of the bridge party

444
00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:38,800
Speaker 2: again and then I was done. Gosh was cooked.

445
00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:40,880
Speaker 1: We were like embarrassed school children.

446
00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:43,040
Speaker 2: We should ask Jenny because there might have been a

447
00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,040
Speaker 2: subplot that she had a thing for me, that's why,

448
00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:45,840
Speaker 2: and you kissing me?

449
00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:49,680
Speaker 1: Was like, hey, yeah, it could have happened. I don't

450
00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,480
Speaker 1: think she was with her her now husband at that point.

451
00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,440
Speaker 1: I'm going to find out. I did talk to Jenny

452
00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:57,959
Speaker 1: for the LA episodes and she was talking about how

453
00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,800
Speaker 1: I believe her words were tragically single. All of the

454
00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,480
Speaker 1: writers were at this point, so they were just using

455
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,800
Speaker 1: all of their stuff from real life, you know, in

456
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,240
Speaker 1: the show, which of course makes her a good show.

457
00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:10,280
Speaker 1: But I'm going to ask her now.

458
00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:12,679
Speaker 2: I didn't mean Jenny had it. I meant the character

459
00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:14,320
Speaker 2: that had a thing for me. I'm like, no, I

460
00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:15,000
Speaker 2: would never.

461
00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,600
Speaker 1: No, No, I know, I know, but I mean I

462
00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:25,520
Speaker 1: do think it's a way to, you know, exercise unfulfilled things. Yes, indeed, yes, indeed,

463
00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:27,439
Speaker 1: I mean I do think it's kind of amazing that

464
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,040
Speaker 1: you met her in a restaurant and then ended up

465
00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,640
Speaker 1: on our show and then many many, many many years

466
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,840
Speaker 1: later ended up on her show. I love it so much. Yeah,

467
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:36,639
Speaker 1: it's amazing.

468
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,439
Speaker 2: And that that Zoom Chemistry reader on Sky Chemistry Read

469
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:44,040
Speaker 2: I did with her and Paul Figue it was like so.

470
00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:45,920
Speaker 1: Much fun, so so great.

471
00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:47,880
Speaker 2: That's the best.

472
00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:48,880
Speaker 1: What a great guy.

473
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:52,040
Speaker 2: But the combo of those two were just such a

474
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,080
Speaker 2: joy to work with and they're wonderful.

475
00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:56,760
Speaker 1: Paul. It is also good friends with Michael Patrick, our

476
00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,120
Speaker 1: show runner who took over that you were saying after

477
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:03,120
Speaker 1: Darren left, and they have houses in Arrowhead, like Arrowhead,

478
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 1: and we were up there and we ran into Paul

479
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 1: and I was like, what a crazy little world. I love.

480
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:09,359
Speaker 1: I love these creative people, you know.

481
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's his style, like the way he dresses.

482
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:27,959
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's I know, he's super fascinating. Jason.

483
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,679
Speaker 1: I'm just so happy you emailed us because this is

484
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:34,679
Speaker 1: like an unfound you know, gem, Like thank god you

485
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,160
Speaker 1: are here to tell us the things that I don't

486
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:40,440
Speaker 1: always remember, because it's like that shadow memory where you're

487
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 1: like I feel like there's something missing, Like sometimes I'll

488
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,760
Speaker 1: watch a show, there's something missing here and we need

489
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 1: to find the footage. So now we're going to be

490
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,400
Speaker 1: on a new, a new journey of trying to uncover

491
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:56,200
Speaker 1: this footage. Yeah, it must exist, right, I think it

492
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:58,919
Speaker 1: must exist somewhere. The question is did it end up

493
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,960
Speaker 1: on those DVDs? Because that would be interesting because there

494
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,359
Speaker 1: have been a couple times where people will say, oh, X,

495
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 1: Y or Z is on the DVD, and I'll just

496
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 1: be shocked because I don't think I ever. I think

497
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,320
Speaker 1: at that point in time when the DVDs came out,

498
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 1: I was just kind of trying, like I wasn't really

499
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,239
Speaker 1: in a rewatching type of a mindset, you know, I

500
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 1: was just trying to keep moving forward, you know. Yeah,

501
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 1: but now many years later, it's fun to rewatch.

502
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 2: Did you rewatch the early stuff before you started the

503
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 2: second iteration? No?

504
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:29,720
Speaker 1: Uh uh no, no, because it never would have entered

505
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 1: my mind, Like for me, because you know, we've played

506
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 1: these characters for so long, and because we're all still

507
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 1: friends in life, so there was like a through line

508
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:43,879
Speaker 1: even when we weren't publicly you know, filming or whatever.

509
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:48,240
Speaker 1: It never entered my mind that I needed to catch

510
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 1: up you know what I'm saying. Yeah, sure, I think

511
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:55,359
Speaker 1: it would have been interesting to do so, because as

512
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 1: I'm rewatching now, I mean, there's so much I don't remember.

513
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 1: But I also feel like one of the things that

514
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,160
Speaker 1: I think is interesting about playing a character for this long,

515
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 1: which is so rare of course, is that you know,

516
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,439
Speaker 1: you change and grow, and the character changes and grows

517
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:12,959
Speaker 1: with you to some extent. Right, Like, it's not like

518
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 1: I am Charlotte and Charlotte is me, but we're all

519
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:19,199
Speaker 1: all of us who are continuing on. We were I

520
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,440
Speaker 1: think thirty three when we started the show or something

521
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:23,919
Speaker 1: roughly like that, and you know now and just like

522
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 1: that was into our fifties and we're all living our

523
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 1: lives too, so like, you don't necessarily need to match everything.

524
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 1: And this is part of what people would get upset about, right, like, oh,

525
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 1: that character would never do that. No, people change and grow.

526
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:40,159
Speaker 1: That's life. That's the joy of life. You know, you

527
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:43,919
Speaker 1: don't need to be like didactically committed to well, Charlotte

528
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:45,919
Speaker 1: wore her hair like this when she was forty, so

529
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 1: she would wear her hair like this. I mean, that's

530
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,200
Speaker 1: not how life is, you know. Yeah, and thank god, right,

531
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 1: it would be boring if it was that way.

532
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 2: It's funny how people can really get into the nitty

533
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 2: rideo itself, right, and I think they know, but you're

534
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,400
Speaker 2: absolute right, we change, we grow.

535
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 1: We change, we grow, and I mean, like kind of

536
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,400
Speaker 1: our essence might not you know, it's an interesting thing,

537
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 1: like I think that. I mean, I think also for us.

538
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 1: The thing that's interesting too is like, because we have

539
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:17,880
Speaker 1: been friends this whole time, we don't have to second

540
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,400
Speaker 1: guess things as much as I think you would if

541
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,679
Speaker 1: you somehow were operating in a vacuum where you weren't

542
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 1: in touch with the people. You know what I'm saying,

543
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,200
Speaker 1: Like as a fan, we're like a family group where

544
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 1: we all see each other, you know, in New York

545
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,400
Speaker 1: or in La or I went to Lake Harrow ahead

546
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 1: with Michael Patrick. Whatever. You don't what I'm saying. Different things,

547
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 1: different things. We've got kids, We've got all different things, right,

548
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 1: But it creates a through line and a connectedness that

549
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 1: can't be manufactured or changed really, right, Like it's just

550
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 1: fundamental in a way.

551
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 2: And then you develop a shorthand with those people.

552
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:53,439
Speaker 1: Right, yes, exactly exactly, and then the writing does so

553
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,439
Speaker 1: much right, But they kind of write for us at

554
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 1: this point, you know, So it's it's all very interesting.

555
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 1: I mean, at some point I hope I will get

556
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 1: some objectivity about it, and just like that, I'm not

557
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 1: quite there yet. It doesn't I don't feel finished with

558
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,160
Speaker 1: the whole thing, right. But on the other hand, I'm

559
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 1: now looking back, so I'm getting gaining some perspective, some

560
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 1: interesting perspective on looking back at our at our earlier,

561
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 1: earlier incarnations.

562
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, I have one more memory about that

563
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:24,919
Speaker 2: night that we tell me.

564
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 1: I can't wait.

565
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 2: I remember we broke for dinner at like two am

566
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 2: or something, and they served like sliced turkey. It was

567
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 2: like a Thanksgiving type and you were like and you

568
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 2: were like, oh my god, trip to fen. We're all

569
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 2: going to be asleep. We're not. I'm not going to

570
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:41,439
Speaker 2: eat this.

571
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 1: So what did I get? Did I get?

572
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, I mean I I think we ended up

573
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 2: having something else. But you're like, don't eat the turkey.

574
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:49,919
Speaker 2: Don't eat the turkey.

575
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 1: Those are the weird things, you know, when you're working

576
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,479
Speaker 1: all night, you have to like do some weird things

577
00:27:56,520 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 1: to stay perky, you know, like you have to have

578
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 1: some rules. And I guess no, Turkey is a pretty

579
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 1: good rule. At that point in time, we saw Sunrise,

580
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 1: you know, two or three times a week, Thursday, Friday,

581
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:14,880
Speaker 1: probably definitely sometimes Wednesday, depending on the week and how

582
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 1: we were doing, Like it was super super nightty hours.

583
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,640
Speaker 1: But that was just how we had to do it,

584
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 1: partly because sometimes we had the you know, exterior night scenes.

585
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 1: But then we'd get so turned around that even if

586
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 1: we didn't, like you said, we were fully at Silver Cup, right,

587
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,959
Speaker 1: So there we are, fully in the studio until sunrise,

588
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 1: which you would never hear about now, Like I don't

589
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 1: feel like anyone does that now.

590
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean everyone's so money conscious now, and well,

591
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 2: you guys are shooting on film, right, I mean it.

592
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 1: Was It's a totally thing, so totally different thing. I

593
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 1: do much slower process the olden days. Man slower in

594
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 1: some ways and then not because I remember back then

595
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 1: we shot a lot more pages than we do when

596
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 1: we would work most recently, Yeah, because we had to,

597
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 1: Like we would do crazy things like if we were

598
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 1: out somewhere location wise, because locations in New York are

599
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,479
Speaker 1: so expensive. All of us remember that they would have

600
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 1: like those really big lights and we would like roll

601
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 1: them down the streets, like we'd have one location on

602
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 1: one corner and then another location on the other corner.

603
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 1: We just roll the lights down the sidewalk in New

604
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 1: York like crazy times. And I remember at one point

605
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 1: when we were going back to it just like that,

606
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 1: Sarah and I had this conversation of, you know, wouldn't

607
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,239
Speaker 1: be great to go back to wait the way that

608
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 1: we used to film, and we used to film so

609
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 1: fast and you know, so kind of gorilla filmmaking in

610
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 1: the streets, and we didn't do that. I don't even know.

611
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 1: I don't even know if we could do that, because

612
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 1: I know Michael Patrick and I talked one time too.

613
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 1: I think when you look back, certainly at the first

614
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 1: season and the second season of the show, there's some

615
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 1: times where the like the special effects and the lighting

616
00:29:57,960 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 1: they're not great. You know, it's kind of like charming,

617
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 1: nostalgic to look at, but they're not like amazing, right.

618
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 1: But I think once we made the films, then everyone's

619
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 1: expectations of what it would look like visually really just

620
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 1: bumped up. But also even in this third season, like

621
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 1: when I watched the third season of the show, our

622
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 1: visuals are like wow, you know, I mean they're wow

623
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 1: in a way of the time, right, like long lenses

624
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 1: in the city. It was kind of like our seventies

625
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 1: you know, you know Scorsese type, you know, vibe going on.

626
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 1: But and we obviously couldn't keep that going either. But

627
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 1: I love it so much. But I think once we

628
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 1: did the films, we really we really got high expectations,

629
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,959
Speaker 1: I guess in terms of our visuals, and we couldn't

630
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 1: really go back. But it would have been nice to

631
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,479
Speaker 1: go back just in terms of being quick. But I

632
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 1: just don't know if you can do it that way

633
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 1: these days, you know. Yeah, it's a different time.

634
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 2: It is. You know. It was part of the fun

635
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 2: thing for me working on Welcome to Flat which with

636
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 2: Jenny and Paul, was that, you know, there was a

637
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 2: lot of improv and there was a lot of just

638
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 2: you know, we would do a couple of takes as

639
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 2: scripted and Paul be like, okay, just just you know,

640
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 2: let's just have fun with this. Amazing and that felt

641
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 2: so different to me, especially for a network half hour

642
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 2: comedy that was like unheard of. Yeah, but because it

643
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 2: was Paul and Jenny, yeah, they were they were given

644
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 2: free reign, and we had so much fun and so

645
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,479
Speaker 2: much stuff that ended up on the show was just

646
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 2: like stuff that happened in the moment, and wow, that

647
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 2: felt really like, Wow, this is special.

648
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 1: I need to watch this show. I somehow did not

649
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 1: watch it either, which I don't know where. I was like,

650
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Speaker 1: how can I miss Jenny's whole show?

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Speaker 2: I know, two seasons.

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Speaker 1: Two seasons amazing.

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Speaker 2: It just kind of went under the radar, And I.

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Speaker 1: Feel like that's also a problem of where we are

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Speaker 1: right now. There's so much stuff. Yeah, and you can't

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Speaker 1: like focus, you know. Yeah, Yeah, I loved it.

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Speaker 2: The strike. The strike killed us because we have gotten

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Speaker 2: We would have been renewed for a third season that definitively,

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Speaker 2: but that strike just messed up the timeline and everything.

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Speaker 1: So that's so sad.

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Speaker 2: But it was such a joy to get to work

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Speaker 2: with Jenny Bicks again, and to work with her, like,

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Speaker 2: you know, over multiple episodes was really really fun.

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Speaker 1: I love Jenny and her writing.

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Speaker 2: Her writing so good, her writing your show on that

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Speaker 2: show just the best.

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Speaker 1: I know. She's great. She's great. We have her on

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Speaker 1: the podcast any time I can get her on.

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Speaker 2: Sure, she's up in Maine most of the time, isn't she.

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Speaker 1: She is the last time we skyped or whatever, you

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Speaker 1: know whatever, one of the things. Thank god, I'm not

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Speaker 1: sure of the technical, but yes, yes, she's living her

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Speaker 1: fabulous life but also writing and you know, doing great.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Good, well you our joy and I'm just so sad

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Speaker 1: that we're not immortalized in our show together.

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Speaker 2: May exists, maybe maybe I'm going.

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Speaker 1: To find it. I'm going to.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to.

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Speaker 1: I'll keep you posted. And thank you for saving those

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Speaker 1: polaroids or taking pictures of those polaroids or whatever. I

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Speaker 1: love it crazy, amazing.

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Speaker 2: Well, thanks for having me. I'm so excited to be

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Speaker 2: on here and just to get to reconnect with you

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Speaker 2: and me too.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for emailing. All right, all right, have a great day. Bye,

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Speaker 1: thank you, Bye,