1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 2: Welcoming back in our number two Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. 4 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 2: We appreciate all of you hanging out with us. Encourage 5 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 2: you as always go subscribe to the podcast. Make sure 6 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 2: you don't miss a minute. You can search out my 7 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 2: name Clay Travis buck Sexton. Lots of original, unique you 8 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 2: can't hear anywhere else content. Certainly you can keep up 9 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 2: with all fifteen hours of the show as we hang 10 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 2: out with you guys and break down everything that's going 11 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 2: on in the world. And we got a lot coming 12 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 2: your way again. Alex Berenson going to join us top 13 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:38,879 Speaker 2: of the third hour and talk about his lawsuit. We've 14 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 2: already talked about the situations in Chicago, New York City 15 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 2: crime out of control as we began the week and 16 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:48,840 Speaker 2: looked at that data. In about thirty minutes, I'll talk 17 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 2: with you guys. I'll put on my lawyer hat and 18 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 2: explain what's going on with the Fox News dominion trial 19 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 2: that is scheduled to begin tomorrow in Delaware surrounding the 20 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:01,639 Speaker 2: twenty twenty election and what on Fox News. I'll tell 21 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 2: you where I see that case going and how I 22 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 2: would analyze it. But I wanted to come back to 23 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 2: what we just finished off the first hour with, which 24 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 2: is the battle that is currently underway surrounding the bud 25 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 2: Light brand since they put a man pretending to be 26 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 2: a woman in front of their bud Light cans with 27 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 2: her slash his whatever you want to say face on 28 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 2: the cans, I actually think. But I put up a 29 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 2: bud a Buck. I put up a question over the 30 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 2: over the weekend, we are buds. I put up a 31 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 2: question over the weekend, and you can go vote in 32 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 2: this poll question. Because while bud Light, I do believe 33 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 2: is worthy of substantial condemnation for what they did with 34 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 2: this ad, and we're gonna break it down for you 35 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 2: and play what they're trying to do now to make 36 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 2: up for that. Don't forget Nike put this same person 37 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 2: buck in a sports bra and in women's leggings and 38 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:09,239 Speaker 2: tried to sell to everyone out there the idea that 39 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 2: women should buy this because they had the which I 40 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 2: think is even more offensive. 41 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 1: So it's not just bud Light. 42 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 2: They were engaging in the same kind of behavior as Nike. 43 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 2: I think Nike's actually worse and sixty two percent of 44 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 2: you actually agree over let's see twenty six thousand of 45 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 2: you voted, sixty two percent said the Nike ad was worse. 46 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 2: Thirty eight percent said bud Light. What's different, though, Buck, 47 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 2: is the average bud Light drinker is far more likely 48 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 2: to be upset by this decision than the average Nike purchaser. 49 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 2: And so I want to play for you. Bud Light 50 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 2: is now scrambling, and they have a patriotic version of 51 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 2: their branding that they're now trying to spread widely. 52 00:02:58,200 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: Listen to this. 53 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 3: Let me tell you a stack about a beer rooted 54 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 3: in the heart of America, found in a community where 55 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:16,239 Speaker 3: a handshake is a sure contract, brood for those who 56 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 3: found opportunity and challenge and hope and tomorrow raised by 57 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 3: generations willing to sip share risk. 58 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:35,119 Speaker 1: Remember all right, I can't, I can't anymore. I can't 59 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: do it. 60 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 4: But yes, if a politician, let's just say, try an 61 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 4: ad that was similar to this, it would go viral 62 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 4: immediately for being so disingenuous and cheesy. 63 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: And it's amazing. 64 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 4: I mean, I saw the guy, you know, the the 65 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 4: CEO of Budweiser, has a has an interesting background. 66 00:03:58,760 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: You know it. 67 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 4: Yeah he's a marine and now he's making like twelve 68 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 4: million dollars a year to run Bubwiser. That's one of 69 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 4: those jobs, by the way, hard to get. But I mean, 70 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 4: how don't do this? Is really the job description meaning 71 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 4: don't allow your marketing team to gratuitously insult the people 72 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 4: that are actually drinking your beer on a daily basis. 73 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: But it was kind of amazing me. 74 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 4: I felt like if they actually understood the real situation now, 75 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 4: they would just start. They would come out and maybe 76 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 4: go to some of the old school Budweiser ads. They 77 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 4: maybe have a little sense of humor about things. They'd 78 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 4: have be a little self deprecating in some of the ads. 79 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 4: This like we're just gonna put a horse in waving 80 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 4: fields of grain and we're gonna have piano mood music, 81 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 4: like am I getting a massage? Or am I watching 82 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 4: a commercial here? The whole thing was just so pr 83 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 4: slick nonsense. It's embarrassing. But I think that the problem 84 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 4: is Clay. They don't want to do the obvious things 85 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 4: here for because they're afraid that the wokeness will come 86 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:07,840 Speaker 4: after them. Right, they should just be like, yeah, you're right, 87 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 4: this crazy we should have never done that. And you 88 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 4: know what, let's run an old ad where we have 89 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 4: a bunch of guys who are on the beach and 90 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 4: there's pretty ladies and it's great. 91 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: And they won't do that anymore though. 92 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 2: Well, and I was watching a lot of the early 93 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 2: two thousand ads because I went back, and a lot 94 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 2: of you remember how funny bud Light used to be. 95 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 2: Exactly the number one reason that you would watch beer 96 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 2: commercials was they were engaging in a battle to be 97 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 2: as funny as possible. Whether it's the what's up? Remember 98 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 2: the doctor Gallawitzki got gallawik it's of course Clay. 99 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 4: The best ads during the Super Bowl were generally the beer. 100 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 2: Ads, right, Yeah, I want this is a funny story, buck, 101 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 2: So I'll just give you a couple of stories on 102 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 2: bud Light. Bud Light when I started out Kick, to 103 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:00,919 Speaker 2: show you how woke and crazy the universe of beer 104 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 2: advertising has become, reached out because they wanted to advertise 105 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 2: on OutKick. This was around twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen, so 106 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 2: they were the official beer of OutKick. They would never 107 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 2: touch OutKick now and we're like a thousand times as 108 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 2: big now as we were seven or eight years ago. Also, 109 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 2: this is kind of a funny story, Buck. When I 110 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:29,720 Speaker 2: was a kid, I went to church camp and a 111 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 2: lot of people out there listening probably know, especially in 112 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 2: the South, you would go to We went down to 113 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 2: Panama City Beach and we stayed in this. I bet 114 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:40,239 Speaker 2: that there's no way this physical structure is still there. 115 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 2: But you walked in and there were like twenty bunk 116 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 2: beds and everybody stayed there. And this would have been 117 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 2: like nineteen ninety ish, so around that era ninety one 118 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 2: something like that, basically when America was still awesome. And 119 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 2: I had on an old T shirt that my parents 120 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 2: had for me. That was a Spuds Mackenzie T shirt. 121 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 2: So when I was a little kid, bud Whit, those 122 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 2: of you out there remember this. They had Spuds Mackenzie, 123 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 2: who was a little dog, the original party animal. Spuds 124 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 2: Mackenzie was always surrounded by like smoking hot chicks in 125 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 2: a bikini, this dog. And so I had a Spuds 126 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 2: Mackenzie shirt. I had had it for a long time. 127 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 2: My parents got it for me. My parents don't even drink, okay, 128 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 2: but everybody likes Spuds Mackenzie. Somehow, I packed that shirt 129 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 2: to go on the church youth trip and our church 130 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 2: youth director was like, sorry, you can't wear your Spuds 131 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 2: Mackenzie shirt kid on the church youth camp. It's a 132 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 2: little bit too risque. My point on that is they 133 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 2: were just trying to all entertain America. And now the 134 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 2: question Buck is should we add on more steam or 135 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 2: should because they advertise and spend money. I shouldn't say advertised, 136 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 2: but they donate money to Republicans, should we step back 137 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 2: and say, oh, there's nothing more here? 138 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: I think you add on more steam. 139 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 2: I wouldn't touch bud Light if I were you, I 140 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 2: would make fun of anybody that you know who gets 141 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 2: a bud Light because I think this is one of 142 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 2: the few times when you have an opportunity to really 143 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 2: score points and run up the scoreboard on your side. 144 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 2: There's lots of fungible bud Light alternatives, and you need 145 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 2: to make corporate America aware that if they're only going 146 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 2: to pander to the woke, there is a consequence associated 147 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 2: with that. And I think that's why bud Light is 148 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 2: running scared Buck and trying to put on these ridiculous propagandistics. 149 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 2: Suddenly patriotic ads. 150 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:42,079 Speaker 4: You know, we all, remember that this is much less 151 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 4: a thing you'll hear these days that it used to be. 152 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 4: But I'm sure you grew up with this thing too, 153 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 4: which was, you know, sometimes you got to punch a 154 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 4: bully in the face to get the kids to stop 155 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 4: bullying you. Right now these days, of course, that's not 156 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 4: allowed anymore. But the same thing I think is true 157 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 4: of a lot of these corporations. I mean, they have 158 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 4: to be. This is why we've supported Ron de Santis 159 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 4: standing up to Disney, for example. I think that you 160 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 4: have to make an example of some of these companies 161 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 4: that just out of you know, there's always a combination 162 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 4: of cowardice slash ideological. 163 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 1: You know, lockstep right. 164 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 4: So so on the one hand, it might just be 165 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 4: these companies are afraid that they're going to get attacked 166 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 4: by the woke. 167 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 1: Left democrat lunatics. 168 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 4: There's also some places now, as we see in the 169 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:33,199 Speaker 4: case of Disney, where no that some of the decision 170 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 4: makers really believe this stuff. But either way, you've got 171 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 4: to raise the costs of doing business for them in 172 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 4: this environment or else it just continues on. And I 173 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 4: think that the right generally speaking, culturally, psychologically, we figured 174 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 4: out that we can either start to do things in 175 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:56,679 Speaker 4: response to the way that the politics are. Everything is 176 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 4: being politicized all the time, or we can just let 177 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:02,199 Speaker 4: every corporation do the bidding of the far left lunatics 178 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 4: and you know, hope that they don't come for us 179 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 4: for a little while longer. 180 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 1: It's pretty it's pretty clear, I think what has to happen. 181 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I would also add this the response if 182 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 2: I were in charge of marketing at bud Light, obviously 183 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 2: I never would have been this stupid, And because I 184 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 2: understand who drinks bud Light, and I understand what that 185 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 2: response would have been. But I think the response to 186 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 2: bud Light should be, we're going to advertise to everybody. 187 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 1: That's the way out here, right. 188 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 2: The way out is for them to say, we're going 189 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 2: to buy every audience in America. We're gonna buy Fox News, 190 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 2: We're gonna buy Clay and Buck, We're also going to 191 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 2: buy MSNBC, and we might occasionally have an ad that 192 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 2: appeals to trans people. I think most Americans would say 193 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 2: if that was the response, Okay, you're you're a business 194 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 2: that's marketplace is entirely determined by you want one hundred 195 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:56,079 Speaker 2: percent of the marketplace to consider bud light. 196 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: So that's what you're gonna do. 197 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's basically Michael Jordan's saying Republicans by 198 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 2: sneakers too, and Buck. My wife texted me because she's 199 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 2: pretty fired up about this Dylan mulvany ad in a 200 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 2: sports bra and I know a lot of women are 201 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 2: out there too, And she just sent me and said, 202 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 2: the Nike ad is so much worse. They've spent decades 203 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 2: trying to end sensationalizing the unattainable female body and ads, 204 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:24,839 Speaker 2: and then this is like trying to appeal to women 205 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 2: who are maybe not an ideal athletic shape to work 206 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 2: out and wear gear. And then she says, in one 207 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 2: single ad, they showed an ideal woman's body should look 208 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 2: like an anorexic man's. And I mean, I can't get 209 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 2: over the idea of your trying to sell sports bras 210 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 2: to women by putting a dude with no boobs, a man, 211 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 2: a man literally with the penis and testicles in a 212 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 2: sports bra and having him dance around. 213 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 4: And it's also I think it's worth noting that the 214 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:59,559 Speaker 4: you're supposed to accept this Also, you can't even criticize 215 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 4: this on an aesthetic level, like why are you elevating 216 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 4: this person? Like what about this individual's physique or anything else. 217 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 4: If you don't say that that he is a beautiful woman, 218 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 4: you're a bad person. 219 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's whatever. 220 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 4: They immediately make this a moral crusade because the aesthetics 221 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 4: of this are obvious, which is that that actually Dylan 222 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 4: mulviney looks like a deranged person. Yeah, like a person 223 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:30,559 Speaker 4: that really needs severe mental illness and mental health intervention. 224 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 4: But no, you're actually supposed to go beyond even it's 225 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 4: not about Okay, this is you know, this is how 226 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:36,199 Speaker 4: Dylan does things. 227 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: Whatever. 228 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 4: It's you don't think that this is beautiful and to 229 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 4: be celebrated, you're a bigot you think about this and 230 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 4: other commercials, right, I mean, it's not a nice thing 231 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 4: to do. But you'd be like, yeah, you know, I 232 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 4: don't think that models that you know, that attractive, or 233 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 4: I don't think that guy's that you know that charismatic 234 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 4: or handsome or whatever. You must celebrate the esthetics of 235 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 4: Dylan mulvaney or you're an immoral, awful person. You're a 236 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 4: bit That's the totalitarianism that is at play here. 237 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 2: This is where you're right that they are soon going 238 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 2: to pivot to If you are a guy and you're 239 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 2: not interested in hooking up with a chick with a penis, 240 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 2: you're transphobic, Like there's something wrong with you. 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I'm wanting to see 266 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 5: an economy where businesses focus on their core missions rather 267 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 5: than indulging in woke political activism. 268 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: And what you see happening. 269 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 5: And look, some of it's annoying. Some of it they're 270 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 5: virtue signaling, and it is great, and honestly, I think 271 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 5: you know what's going on here. You see bud light 272 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 5: and doing all this stuff. But some of this stuff 273 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 5: I think is really insidious. When you look at movements 274 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 5: like ESG, Environment, Social governance, what they are trying to 275 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 5: do is they're trying to hijack corporate power in order 276 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 5: to advance in ideological agenda. 277 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 4: Totally true, folks. I mean, on the one hand, we're 278 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 4: sitting here and enjoying a moment at bud Light's expense 279 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 4: because of what's going on here. But the plans that 280 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 4: the left has, I understand they do. That's a good 281 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 4: word to use too, that Governor Dessantis used their insidious. 282 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 4: It is insidious, for example, that George Soros decided, for 283 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 4: ideological reasons, that he would start backing district attorneys with money. 284 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 4: I mean, no one had really ever thought to do 285 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 4: this in this way before. To systematically seed prosecutor's offices 286 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 4: across the country with people who are going to make 287 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 4: crime as legal as they can and still keep their 288 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 4: jobs in these democrat enclaves. That's insidious when you see 289 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 4: play these corporations. Sure, there are some who are just clumsy, 290 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 4: but there are real movements afoot. There are real movements 291 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 4: and efforts underway to advance a far left agenda, using 292 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 4: your retirement funds, using the financial sector, using banks. 293 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: To freeze people out. 294 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 4: Banks won't even do transactions with some firearms companies, for example. 295 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 4: Like that really is power that is being wielded, and 296 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 4: it's every day. 297 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 2: The advertising industry is the wokest industry in all of America. 298 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 2: It's important for you to realize that more than sports journalists, 299 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 2: more sports wow more than sports because they have fallen victim, 300 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 2: whether it's Tucker Carlson, whether it's Clay and Buck Show, 301 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 2: whether it is anybody out there, Sean Hannity again, if 302 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 2: every product wants to advertise to every audience, I'm one 303 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 2: hundred percent in favor of it. But the left has 304 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 2: become incredibly skilled at doing two things. One, they try 305 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:14,880 Speaker 2: to cancel AD dollars and they are incredibly demonic about 306 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:18,679 Speaker 2: their focus on that. Two, in addition to trying to 307 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 2: cancel AD dollars, anytime we complain about an AD, they say, 308 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 2: what's the big deal? Why are you complaining about an 309 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 2: AD in the first place, So they try to stifle 310 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 2: all dollars going to competing, competing marketplace shows. And then 311 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 2: whenever you point out how woke the advertising industry has gotten, 312 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 2: they immediately say, this isn't a big deal. Why are 313 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 2: you trying to shoot down that ad in the first place. 314 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 2: They are going after you on both ends of the 315 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 2: spectrum understand how this game is being played. And they 316 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 2: are so duplicitous and so venal and so dishonest that 317 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 2: I think you have to hold bud Light accountable here. 318 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 2: Identity theft can happen to anyone while you're living your life, 319 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 2: buying items online, airline tickets, even registering your kids for 320 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 2: summer camps. Your infos often at risk. The amount stolen 321 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 2: online every year in the billions of dollars. 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If you do, they'll hook you 331 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 2: up and take care of you. Again, important to understand 332 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 2: cybercrime and identity theft are affecting our lives. No one 333 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 2: can prevent all identity theft or monitor all transactions at 334 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 2: all businesses, but you can help protect yourself with LifeLock. 335 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 2: Join now twenty five percent off. Go to LifeLock dot 336 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 2: com use my name, Clay. Welcome back in Clay Travis 337 00:18:56,960 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 2: buck Sexton Show. Okay, it was supposed to start today, 338 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 2: but the dominion lawsuit against Fox News surrounding the allegations 339 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:11,159 Speaker 2: that they have made of defamation basically is in a 340 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 2: Delaware courtroom. They have seated a jury and it now 341 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 2: is supposed to start tomorrow. Now, it's still possible this 342 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 2: thing could settle, and it could always settle in the 343 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:24,439 Speaker 2: middle of the trial as well. There's lots of different 344 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 2: moving parts still on this. But I do think it's 345 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 2: significant from a First Amendment perspective, and so I wanted 346 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 2: to address it some with you guys and let you 347 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 2: know where it's going. 348 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 1: Now. 349 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:37,919 Speaker 2: You guys know, I sold my company out Kick to 350 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 2: Fox two years ago, so this was I was not involved. 351 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 2: I'm not going to be a witness in this case. 352 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 2: I'm not involved in any way. I wasn't on Fox 353 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 2: News at the time of this issue, so I am 354 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 2: not speaking with some insider knowledge at all. I haven't 355 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:58,159 Speaker 2: spoken to anyone at Fox to my knowledge about this case. 356 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 2: But I do think purely from a new perspective. It's 357 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 2: on the front page of the New York Times for 358 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 2: instance today that it is an interesting case, and buck 359 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 2: I have been reading a great deal about this, and 360 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 2: my position on it in general is Times v. Sullivan, 361 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 2: which is, I believe the nineteen sixty four case which 362 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 2: the Supreme Court used to lay out essentially a defamation 363 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 2: standard for purposes of newspapers as it pertains to public 364 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:32,159 Speaker 2: figures is still the law of the land. There's been 365 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:34,400 Speaker 2: a lot of discussion about whether it needs to change, 366 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 2: because the challenge of proving a defamation case against a 367 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 2: public figure, and in this case, dominion would be one, 368 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 2: is very challenging. But I have read basically every news 369 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 2: story on this. I'm only reacting to what has been 370 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 2: put out into the public arena. I don't see remotely 371 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 2: how this is going to be a case that legally, 372 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 2: legally now it may take five years to play out 373 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 2: and eventually go all the way to the Supreme Court. 374 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 2: But I don't understand how Fox is liable here for 375 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 2: putting on people who made the allegation that the twenty 376 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 2: twenty election was stolen. That's the job of a news 377 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:17,639 Speaker 2: network is to cover the news, and so you're not 378 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 2: responsible for everything that is said in an opinion space 379 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 2: from others. So to me, this is ultimately not that 380 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 2: difficult of a case to decide. 381 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:32,479 Speaker 4: So also for full disclosure purposes, obviously, my my wife 382 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 4: works for Fox News, so what I'm weighing in on. 383 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 4: She also hasn't been deposed, she's not testifying, like she's 384 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 4: not involved in this case. She's a producer there, She's right, 385 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 4: But I think that's important too. I mean there's you know, 386 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 4: thousands of Fox employees. Yeah, you know, I know what 387 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:48,400 Speaker 4: I'm saying, Like, you know, I don't want I don't 388 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 4: want one of those left wing groups to hit it. 389 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,479 Speaker 4: It's like, does it even disclose the fact that it's okay, 390 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 4: that's good for the company. It's a good point, but 391 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 4: it's not like she's a key But with well you 392 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 4: have to because you know, Fox bought your side everything else. 393 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 4: But I'm just saying for me too, so the wife, 394 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 4: the wife works for Fox News. I would say this, 395 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:11,360 Speaker 4: everything you have seen in recent years from the left 396 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 4: and from a Democrat shows a ruthless desire to suppress 397 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 4: opposing voices. If you stand in the way of the 398 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 4: Democrat apparatus, they plan to crush you, to silence you, 399 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 4: to kick you off, to shut down your server to 400 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 4: you know, you name it, right, whatever they can do. 401 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 4: And it's in that environment that now we're possibly going 402 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:38,239 Speaker 4: to see. It hasn't happened yet, but if Fox were, 403 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 4: let's you say, to lose this in court, that you 404 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:46,360 Speaker 4: would have people now setting a standard of you are 405 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:51,919 Speaker 4: responsible for opinion that other people on a point of 406 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 4: maybe this is an opinion about like, you know, is 407 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:58,680 Speaker 4: so and so like beating his wife, and then you're 408 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 4: just you know, you're this is about the election. This 409 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 4: was about something that mattered to the whole country, and 410 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 4: obviously millions and millions of people felt very strongly about it. 411 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 4: So it was a matter of public importance that you 412 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 4: would then punish a network for airing opinions of people 413 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,399 Speaker 4: shown as such. Right, yes, they're not going after the hosts, 414 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 4: they're going after the fact that where does that stop 415 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 4: and start? And then, of course, by the way, you know, 416 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 4: what are the outer limits of that new standard. So 417 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 4: when you know who is going to go and do 418 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 4: we get to go and sue MSNBC for putting that 419 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 4: now convicted felon and massive fraud and CNN by the way, 420 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 4: Michael Avenatti on TV over and over again spewing lies, 421 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 4: spewing lies about Brett Kavanaugh, never mind about Trump. Are 422 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 4: we going to you know, remember he got involved with 423 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 4: Julius When people forget this, I mean, are we going 424 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,119 Speaker 4: to go back and hold and maybe some of your 425 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,119 Speaker 4: saying yeah we should. Well, that's the other part of 426 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 4: this fight fire with is CNN accountable for putting complete 427 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 4: liars on air talking about Russia collusion and members of 428 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 4: the not just Trump Trump's family, those are you know, 429 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 4: those are individuals who weren't in government, suggesting that they 430 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 4: were somehow also in on this traitorous collusion plot. 431 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 1: All lunatic lies. 432 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:23,119 Speaker 4: Oh, Trump is held responsible for I'm sorry, Fox is 433 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 4: held responsible for opinion because it involves Trump. But CNN 434 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 4: and MSNBC and The New York Times and others can 435 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 4: be lunacy factories for years and that's all just covered 436 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 4: under you know, free speech, man, I mean, Clay, the 437 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 4: double standard here is too obvious. 438 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 2: Also, I don't see any damages. And this is me 439 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 2: again analyzing it from a legal perspective. I haven't seen 440 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 2: dominion prove that they have lost a single dollar in revenue. 441 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,959 Speaker 2: They were still involved in the twenty twenty two election, 442 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:59,199 Speaker 2: and so I question the analysis from a damages perspective 443 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 2: and again legally, and this is the same analysis that 444 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 2: I gave you, by the way, on the Alvin Bragg 445 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 2: allegations and charges that he filed against Trump. Legally, this 446 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 2: is eventually, I believe, going to get tossed because of 447 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 2: the basic law. And again, facts are decided by juries. 448 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 2: The law is decided by judges. But I think one 449 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,360 Speaker 2: of the challenging parts about that is it can take 450 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 2: years for the full fruition of the legal process to 451 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 2: play itself out. 452 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,959 Speaker 1: So I would encourage all of you to pay attention 453 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 1: to it. 454 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:37,159 Speaker 2: I would also say keep in mind the way that 455 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 2: this story is being covered. The New York Times in 456 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 2: the Washington Post, for instance, are covering the Dominion versus 457 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:48,400 Speaker 2: Fox News lawsuit in a breathless, fanatical degree. They still 458 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:53,120 Speaker 2: haven't covered the Twitter files, the actual collusion that existed 459 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 2: between big media, Twitter, big Tech, and the Democrat Party. 460 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 2: By in large of the New York Times and the 461 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:06,159 Speaker 2: Washington Post audience have no idea what Elon Musk revealed 462 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 2: associated with the Twitter files. Now we're talking to you 463 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 2: about Dominion. We're going to talk with you and the 464 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,439 Speaker 2: Fox News. Next hour, we're going to talk with you 465 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,919 Speaker 2: about Alex Berenson and the lawsuit that he has filed 466 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 2: against Pfizer and against the Biden administration surrounding COVID. Our 467 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,120 Speaker 2: job is to talk to you about every story that's 468 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,439 Speaker 2: out there, to make you as well informed as you 469 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 2: possibly can be. But pay attention. I mean, it's a 470 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 2: very valid question to be asking. Wait a minute, Okay, 471 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 2: you'd think that Fox News versus Dominion or dominion versus 472 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 2: Fox News is a monster story that deserves to be 473 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 2: on the front page every day. Why New York Times 474 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 2: of Washington Post have you still not covered the Twitter files? 475 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 2: Why New York Times have you barely covered the Hunter 476 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 2: Biden laptop story associated with the New York Post. Why 477 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:51,360 Speaker 2: are you picking and choosing stories based on the narrative, 478 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 2: agenda and which direction you think that's going to go. 479 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 2: I think these are all very very valid questions, and 480 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 2: it's frustrating to me, Buck, because I know this audience 481 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 2: is pretty well informed about all of these different stories, 482 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 2: not only left wing obsessions but also right wing stories. 483 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 2: The left wing people, the people who read just the 484 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 2: New York Times every day, the people who read just 485 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 2: the Washington Post every day. Many of them have no 486 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 2: idea what's actually going on or what the truth is 487 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 2: on so many of the most important stories of our day. 488 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:25,199 Speaker 2: They just don't even know they exist. 489 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 4: You know, this is always a revelation when they do 490 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 4: any effort to see, just to compare, whether the Democrats 491 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 4: really know what the Republicans think or really what the 492 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,360 Speaker 4: When the left is asked what does the right think 493 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,920 Speaker 4: on this, they have no idea. They have a caricature 494 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 4: version of what the right believes on anything. When you 495 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,199 Speaker 4: when they ask, I mean, you could sit here, you 496 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 4: and I could do the whole we could go through 497 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 4: here are the left wing talking points. We know exactly 498 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 4: what they're going to say every day issues watch them 499 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 4: every day, day in and day out. I mean they 500 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 4: still reads The New York Times in print, for heaven's sake. 501 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,879 Speaker 1: To cover every day. I know what they say. 502 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 4: It's hanging out in the enemy camp and seeing their plans, 503 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 4: so we know what they think. 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He of a substack and being 532 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 4: right about pretty much everything about COVID fame. He has 533 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 4: a couple of books out to we'll talk to him 534 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 4: about his lawsuit against the Bided administration for suppressing his 535 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 4: free speech rights. Also interesting that we'll get to this 536 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 4: in a moment. Elon Musk came out and said, and 537 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 4: this is Tucker's airing this interview to night. 538 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch it. 539 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 4: It's gonna I'm sure it's gonna be really interesting Elon 540 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 4: and Tucker to fascinating individuals who are doing a lot, 541 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 4: I think for free speech in this country and just 542 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 4: really free thought in this country in general. But there's 543 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 4: a little preview clip out from Tucker's show that we 544 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 4: want to get to in a moment of where he 545 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 4: says that, well, what is the government what kind of 546 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 4: access was the government giving to people on Twitter? Before? 547 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 4: Elon it's like pre Elon pe. We'll get into that 548 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 4: in just a second. But we've got I want to 549 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 4: hear from all of you. We've got phone calls coming 550 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 4: in also our VIP emails. Here's one by the way, 551 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 4: subscribe at clayanbuck dot com. And this one comes from Chris. 552 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 4: Have you heard about multiple car manufacturers not installing AM radio. 553 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 4: There was an article that said they will not be 554 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 4: installing AM and how this will impact conservative talk shows 555 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 4: and limit the conservative message. I view this as a 556 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 4: way for liberals to silence the conservative movement and message. 557 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 4: Please look into it. Thank you from our VIP Chris, Chris. 558 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 4: We are all over this. It is really important. It's 559 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 4: obviously very important to us, but it's a i'sportant to 560 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 4: the conservative movement and honestly to all Americans because there's 561 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 4: a big safety component of this. Clayed out with it 562 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 4: himself recently. But I just want to want to tell 563 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 4: you that. I mean, you've got eighty million Americans who 564 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 4: depend on AM radio every month, So people are listening 565 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 4: to baseball games, monitoring weather, listening to shows like this one. 566 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 4: I mean, Clay, when you were driving into Fort Lauderdale 567 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 4: last week and you were trying to figure out what's 568 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 4: going on with the weather, where were you looking for 569 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 4: the real time updates? 570 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:31,479 Speaker 2: I was hitting on my AM dial trying to figure 571 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 2: out what was going on, because again, for people who 572 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 2: were in South Florida and experienced it, this is the 573 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 2: most rain that any part of Florida has gotten in 574 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 2: a twenty four hour period in the history of any 575 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 2: kind of records. 576 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 1: And so I was going along fine, and you know, I. 577 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 2: Rely on ways, and I rely on Google Maps to 578 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 2: try to get me around the best way that they 579 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 2: can buck the flash floods hit so fast in Fort 580 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 2: Lauderdale that ways and also the Google Maps were completely worthless. 581 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 2: I've never been in a situation like that before where 582 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 2: And I think I told you on Friday last week. 583 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 2: It reminded me a little bit of The Office where 584 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 2: Michael Scott's character is being told by a garment in 585 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 2: his car just keep driving right into the lake. And 586 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 2: he drives directly into the lake. That's how rapidly the 587 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,719 Speaker 2: water came up. I couldn't get to my hotel, and 588 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 2: so I legitimately put it on the AM dial and 589 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 2: started rotating it around to try to get emergency updates on. 590 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 1: What was going on. If I hadn't had an AM dial, 591 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 1: I would have been screwed. 592 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 4: I mean, AM is still the backbone of the emergency 593 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 4: alert system in this country. 594 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 1: Everybody. 595 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 4: There's a reason why, as I said in all the 596 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 4: Zombie Apocalypse movies, when everything else is gone, when your 597 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 4: cell phone doesn't work, when the powers down, when you 598 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 4: got to AM radio is there. It is the baseline 599 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 4: mass communication tool. I mean, FEMA and first responders across 600 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 4: the country rely heavily on AM radio for public warnings 601 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 4: to be delivered in emergencies. That's because AM's reach is 602 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 4: unmatched and it's free. So look, you can actually do 603 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 4: something to stop this. And obviously this show is asking 604 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 4: you to mobilize as much as you can. Text AM 605 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 4: to five to eight eight six and tell Congress that, look, 606 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 4: we need to have AM radio in cars and trucks. Again, 607 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 4: mobilize for his team. Text AM to five to eight 608 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 4: eight six. Tell your Congressman that we need AM radio 609 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 4: and cars and trucks. Like I said, we need it 610 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 4: for safety, and we need it for free speech. We 611 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 4: need it so that there's actually a place where we 612 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 4: can continue to do the conversations like we're having here. 613 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 4: I mean, think of the decades that what Rush meant 614 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 4: for the conservative movement was only possible because of AM radio. Right, 615 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 4: Rush kept AM radio going in a way that had 616 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 4: enormous impact on the country for decades, and it can 617 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 4: have impact for decades to come. But can't have these 618 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 4: car companies deciding for just frivolous reasons to get rid 619 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 4: of it. So I think it's really important, Clay that 620 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 4: we focus in on the safety reasons to have AM 621 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:09,839 Speaker 4: and also the free speech reasons to. 622 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:13,279 Speaker 2: Have a no doubt and imagine what the reaction would 623 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 2: be if something left wing was getting shut down. They 624 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,840 Speaker 2: would be up in arms over the fact that it's occurring. 625 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 4: Look at how upset NPR got recently over being labeled, 626 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 4: which is just a statement of fact. It is publicly 627 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 4: funded media, NPR and PBS very upset over this, which 628 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 4: brings me to Elon and you know. 629 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 1: You know what's nice butt AM radio. 630 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,360 Speaker 4: It's going out over the radio waves and you're hearing 631 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 4: what's being said here on the show. You know what 632 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 4: the problem is with a lot of these digital services 633 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 4: and apps, especially the free ones, Google and YouTube and 634 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 4: all this stuff, a lot of manipulation going on. This 635 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 4: is from that Tucker interview we mentioned. Listen to this 636 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 4: preview clip where they talk about for those who are 637 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,240 Speaker 4: on Twitter, there's you know, the tweets that everyone sees, 638 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,720 Speaker 4: there's DM direct message, like a text message via Twitter. 639 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,319 Speaker 1: Listen what the government had play this do a degree 640 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:06,920 Speaker 1: to which various government agencies had effectively had full access 641 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,759 Speaker 1: to everything that was going on Twitter? Blew my mind. 642 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 1: I was not aware of that. 643 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 4: Would that include people's dms? Yes, the government had unfettered 644 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:21,280 Speaker 4: access effectively if it wanted it could get it easily. 645 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,800 Speaker 4: Just reach out to their Twitter intermediary, it seems to play, 646 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 4: and they could see your dms. Think about Think about 647 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:32,279 Speaker 4: that means for journalists who are contacting sources, for example, 648 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,760 Speaker 4: people that think they can reach out confidentially via Twitter. 649 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 4: Before Elon was a confidential in the least Big Brother 650 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:41,719 Speaker 4: was watching all of it. 651 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 2: Do you just presume, because I do, that somebody has 652 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:48,719 Speaker 2: access to every text message that I send? 653 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 1: Yes? Right, I mean I and I've thought that for 654 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:53,760 Speaker 1: a long. 655 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:58,239 Speaker 2: Time about dms, that they probably have access to them. 656 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:03,920 Speaker 2: And that is staggering the amount of information that theoretically 657 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 2: your government is taking of your private. 658 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:08,800 Speaker 1: Information on a day to day basis. 659 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 4: I mean it truly is nothing online these days is 660 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:17,839 Speaker 4: truly private. That's the reality, especially given the technological it's 661 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 4: one thing when the government comes up with end runs, 662 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:21,759 Speaker 4: you know, oh we have a way of hacking the 663 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:23,919 Speaker 4: encryption or getting around that's a big part of it. 664 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:25,880 Speaker 1: But in the case of Twitter and by the. 665 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 4: Way, same thing's going on Facebook, same thing's going on 666 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 4: ont YouTube. 667 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:29,879 Speaker 1: It's oh, there's a. 668 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,359 Speaker 4: Democrat in power in the White House. Whatever you guys need, 669 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 4: you want to see this stuff, you want us to 670 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 4: shut down this person, kind of like what they did 671 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,279 Speaker 4: to our friend Alex Berenson, who is coming up here 672 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 4: in a few minutes to talk about what does it 673 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,919 Speaker 4: mean when the federal government, when the Biden White House, 674 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,880 Speaker 4: when the most powerful government ended in the world, decides 675 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:47,800 Speaker 4: that you don't. 676 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 1: Have free speech rights. 677 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:52,839 Speaker 4: He's suing and we'll talk to him in a minute.