Speaker 1: Misspelling with Tori Spelling and iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 2: Hi my friend, Hey, how are you? I'm okay.
Speaker 3: I was like, really, I was really nervous today because
Speaker 3: even though we've known each.
Speaker 2: Other forever, I feel like, yeah.
Speaker 3: I was like, I've never I don't know if I've
Speaker 3: ever seen you like on a zoom or like in
Speaker 3: the daylight.
Speaker 2: That came out wrong.
Speaker 1: It's scared to see me in the daylight.
Speaker 2: No, I'm scared for you to see me in the
Speaker 2: daylight so thin.
Speaker 3: So I was getting ready for this podcast and usually
Speaker 3: like I just put a little makeup on and I
Speaker 3: was like, oh my god, wait, everything has to look good.
Speaker 1: I can't look I'm gonna judge. I'm gonna judge.
Speaker 2: No, I love you. I know you were judge. I
Speaker 2: need judging for you in my own head.
Speaker 1: The entire podcast. By the way, do you see all
Speaker 1: this stuff? I don't know if you've seen TMZ lately,
Speaker 1: but I come out of these restaurants and you know,
Speaker 1: I love when the paparazzi's there. I know you probably
Speaker 1: don't love it, but I love it because I'm not
Speaker 1: that famous. But and they've been they've been asking me
Speaker 1: about Jim Carrey, Bradley Cooper, It's like, what do you
Speaker 1: say when you're confronted with that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: It's so mean, right, Terry Dubreau, what do you say?
Speaker 1: Well, so you know the big deal that just happened
Speaker 1: with the Jim Carrey in the Lifetime Achievement Award in Paris,
Speaker 1: and he looks so different, and all they want to
Speaker 1: do is talk about the way poor Jim Carey looks.
Speaker 1: So I'll tell you what I said. If you want
Speaker 1: to know I do. So I said, Okay, we've been
Speaker 1: and this is really true. We've been used to seeing
Speaker 1: Jim Carrey for so many years look so young, right,
Speaker 1: And you know, I think when a person gets a
Speaker 1: little older and they change someone like Jim Carrey. Okay,
Speaker 1: so he looks different. Whether or not he's had plastic surgery,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I still think he looks great. And
Speaker 1: by the way, if he's had plastic surgery, what I
Speaker 1: said was, you know, plass surgery could take a long
Speaker 1: time for the swelling to come down. You could look
Speaker 1: different for a while, and don't judge by what necessarily
Speaker 1: he's looking like. Now. I don't know if he's had
Speaker 1: plastic surgery, But I said, you know, he's kind of
Speaker 1: our national comedic treasure. Can't we be a little more kind?
Speaker 2: That's the part I love the most, and that's the
Speaker 2: part they won't use.
Speaker 1: Well, actually that was up TMZ was cool. They said
Speaker 1: that TMZ put it on. Yeah, I was very pleased.
Speaker 2: No, they put it in the whole national treasure.
Speaker 1: Don't you agree?
Speaker 2: Yes, of course. Do you think he got something done?
Speaker 1: Well? I mean he does look different, right, he does
Speaker 1: look different.
Speaker 2: Is it because we haven't seen him in a while.
Speaker 1: I think part of it. We haven't seen him for
Speaker 1: a while, and he maybe he's gotten a little bit older,
Speaker 1: but I don't know. You know, they're doing Every plastic
Speaker 1: surgeon in the world is going online and talking about
Speaker 1: there's less skins, up rye lids and his browser higher,
Speaker 1: and they're like dissecting him with a microscope, which is
Speaker 1: so unfair, I think. And I'm cool And what happened
Speaker 1: to the old stop don't body shame people and don't
Speaker 1: body shame celebrities. It's kind of like body shaming to
Speaker 1: really be doing this.
Speaker 3: Don't you think I'm having PTSD Because my entire career
Speaker 3: since I was seventeen before there was internet. Wow, there
Speaker 3: was you know, the Inquirer, the Globe. It was like
Speaker 3: the tabloid paper magazines and Globe came out with something
Speaker 3: when I was seventeen. I had just started nine on
Speaker 3: two and zero and gotten famous, and they were like,
Speaker 3: she's had all this plastic surgery. So they did something
Speaker 3: like that to a seventeen year old. I had had
Speaker 3: my nose done at the time. That was it and
Speaker 3: cheek implants, you know, new Chin, so much stuff. But
Speaker 3: that one article I remember my dad said at the time. Oh,
Speaker 3: he said, oh babe, don't worry. Next week it'll they'll
Speaker 3: be on to someone else. No, that one article has
Speaker 3: stayed with me my entire life. Really plastic surgery I've
Speaker 3: had done?
Speaker 1: Really? Oh yeah, well okay, not about me, No, no, no,
Speaker 1: about me, No, no, I want to know. But I
Speaker 1: think back then mm hm, there was sort of this
Speaker 1: feeling like you guys were maybe more fair game. Well,
Speaker 1: I guess it's the same now, but at least we
Speaker 1: went through that period of time when the people on
Speaker 1: Fashion Police were commenting on who's the name of the
Speaker 1: actress who's like maybe married to Spider Man. They were
Speaker 1: talking about her hair or something. Yes, and overnight it
Speaker 1: became boo to body shame, and so there was a
Speaker 1: big sea change right then. This is way after they
Speaker 1: were going after you, where people said stop, it not cool,
Speaker 1: and I thought we had gotten past that point. And
Speaker 1: again here we are again with the speculating about everybody's
Speaker 1: plastic surgery. And I just think it's really mean spirited
Speaker 1: and uncivilized. And at least when they were doing it
Speaker 1: to you, plastic surgery was, you know, sort of whoa
Speaker 1: new Nobody was talking about it. It was still mean
Speaker 1: and partinding for seventeen year olds, but so wrong.
Speaker 3: Seventeen it like crushed my soul. I never really saw that.
Speaker 3: I never unheard it like it was. I was a
Speaker 3: seventeen year old girl that was like, okay, am I
Speaker 3: pretty I'm trying to find myself in this world.
Speaker 2: But I'm on TV.
Speaker 3: But I'm just like I was in high school for real,
Speaker 3: and it's like yeah, and then yeah, it's kids were
Speaker 3: like it's like, oh my god.
Speaker 1: I know, but you know what, let's let's be empathic here.
Speaker 1: I mean, don't you think Jim Carrey is not ignoring this?
Speaker 1: Don't you think he actually he's trying to avoid it.
Speaker 1: But as strong and as wealthy and famous as he is,
Speaker 1: I'm sure it's affecting him. It would affect anyone, wouldn't it.
Speaker 3: That's interesting you say that because I feel like people think, oh, celebrities,
Speaker 3: they don't have a heart, like they don't care. They're
Speaker 3: you know, non human. You can say whatever about them.
Speaker 3: But even having like I know, it hurts me to
Speaker 3: hear it. Still to this day, when I see something
Speaker 3: on Instagram, I just get immediately my heart plummets. But
Speaker 3: I guess I do wonder too, Like you know, a
Speaker 3: list celebrities do they care?
Speaker 1: They care? Of course, they're human, you know, even for
Speaker 1: a D minus list like me. You know, there was
Speaker 1: a time about ten years ago when I had a
Speaker 1: little I got really fit. My face got a little gaunt,
Speaker 1: so I had a little bow talk, I mean a
Speaker 1: little love filler put in and and I said to
Speaker 1: my guy, go, oh, just put a little more because
Speaker 1: I'm about to lose more weight. And I looked funky,
Speaker 1: and they to this day make fun of me. Now,
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, I don't really care because
Speaker 1: I'm not on TV. Because the way I look, you know,
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with that. And I really and
Speaker 1: maybe because I'm a guy, and maybe because I really
Speaker 1: don't care, but I promise you it. Uh. You know,
Speaker 1: every once in a while, scrolling around at three o'clock
Speaker 1: in the morning and someone will say even to me,
Speaker 1: oh his nose and his filler and his last ex
Speaker 1: seried being is and I go, you know, f you.
Speaker 1: It even bugs me too, right, So if you're human,
Speaker 1: it bugs you, and I just think it's really uncool.
Speaker 3: Right, So you're like as you but also internally you're like, oh,
Speaker 3: that hurts my feelings.
Speaker 1: Like right at three o'clock in the morning, it hurt
Speaker 1: my feelings. I think by the light. Why right when
Speaker 1: I've got during day, I go, oh, f you, I'm
Speaker 1: just lucky to be able to do what I do.
Speaker 1: So but I just think it's you know, it's me.
Speaker 2: It's horrific.
Speaker 3: And yeah, I purposely like I'm fifty two, I'll be
Speaker 3: fifty three in May, and I purposely go the other
Speaker 3: way because everyone says.
Speaker 2: Every photo I put up, people say stop with the filler.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm going to do it, Like I don't know,
Speaker 3: it's like I guess at this point I should be
Speaker 3: like fucking and just have my whole face done, because
Speaker 3: they already say I've had it done. So it's like
Speaker 3: I can't win. But I don't know why that keeps
Speaker 3: me from like doing stuff.
Speaker 1: Well, I think what Chris Jenner did was the most
Speaker 1: brilliant think of all. She just went rather than go, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm on new hormones or I've lost a little bit
Speaker 1: of weight or I'm eating better, she went, f it,
Speaker 1: I had some work done. I love it. Once you
Speaker 1: do that, you know it's over there. You're you're no
Speaker 1: longer a target anymore because you're admitting to it. So
Speaker 1: sometimes at some point, if you decide to do something
Speaker 1: which you don't look like you need anything, you should
Speaker 1: just go, hey, look what I'm doing. Suck it. And
Speaker 1: then and then they'll go, oh, we can't hurt her feelings. Yes,
Speaker 1: we can't hurt her feelings, so we're going to leave
Speaker 1: her alone.
Speaker 2: You know what, You're right.
Speaker 3: I find myself and I don't comment back, typically on
Speaker 3: Instagram when they put the mean comments, and I find
Speaker 3: myself sometimes though, being like, no, it's not true. You know,
Speaker 3: have I had filler in the past, Yes, Like I
Speaker 3: don't have filler. Right now, I have botox, and I
Speaker 3: have that like telling them what I have, like why
Speaker 3: am I like it's like I'm scared to like like, no,
Speaker 3: I haven't had all that done.
Speaker 1: Maybe just disarm them next time and consider going yeah,
Speaker 1: isn't it great? I love it? And more true though
Speaker 1: I know, or just go well or just say well
Speaker 1: more to come, and they'll go, oh, we can't, we
Speaker 1: can't hurt her feelings. They'll move on to somebody else.
Speaker 3: But now, like now that is the hot topic that
Speaker 3: every woman is like, yes, I'm proudly getting a facelift,
Speaker 3: like what you said about Chris Jenner, but like everybody
Speaker 3: is following suit.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: The problem is it's still not okay for a man
Speaker 1: to admit it.
Speaker 2: Oh oh interesting, No, you're right, isn't that weird?
Speaker 1: I mean not, And Tory, what's weird is why are
Speaker 1: women looking so good after plastic surgery and men are
Speaker 1: still looking so weird? Have you noticed that? It's almost
Speaker 1: and I promise you yes, these A List celebrities and
Speaker 1: I don't know, okay, I'm speculating these A List celebrities
Speaker 1: are going to the same one that the A List,
Speaker 1: the A List male celebrities are going to the same
Speaker 1: plastic surgeons as the A list female and they're if
Speaker 1: they're having it, they're coming out looking very different.
Speaker 2: Right, well, what what is that mental different?
Speaker 1: No? I think the plastic surgeons aren't necessarily realizing you
Speaker 1: have to dial it back. You have to have a
Speaker 1: lighter hand, Like if you're going to do a guy's
Speaker 1: upper lidge, right, don't take all the skin, don't expose
Speaker 1: the entire upright lid platform. You know why they never
Speaker 1: looked like that. I mean when a woman is twenty five,
Speaker 1: often commonly you can see all of her upbryeld skin.
Speaker 1: They have no hooding at all. Okay, and so a
Speaker 1: man never looked like that. So for a woman, if
Speaker 1: she developed you.
Speaker 2: Said hood sorry, I don't know, right, like a ten
Speaker 2: year old kid.
Speaker 1: Right, But for a woman and she goes from like
Speaker 1: twenty five to fifty five, and she's developed laxity in
Speaker 1: up ryelids, and you take it away, you take it away,
Speaker 1: she just looks twenty five again, she looks great. If
Speaker 1: you do that to a man, you didn't turn back
Speaker 1: the clock. You altered them. And that's the thing about
Speaker 1: plastic surgery. Even if it's perfectly executed, but you can
Speaker 1: see it. It looks altered. It's no good, right.
Speaker 2: Yes, you're right. They should just be like, oh you
Speaker 2: look so fresh, you look great.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so for a man the twenty years, Yeah, for
Speaker 1: a man, the principle is, don't take all the skin,
Speaker 1: don't pull the neck completely tight, you know, just go
Speaker 1: about seventy five percent of the way. All right. With
Speaker 1: a woman you can go all the way.
Speaker 2: I don't want that when the time comes, I don't
Speaker 2: want it all the way though.
Speaker 1: Well, let's say you had some laxity in your neck,
Speaker 1: all right, like I did. Let's say you had this
Speaker 1: this thing right, okay, so.
Speaker 2: All right, this is all slipping.
Speaker 1: So if you did this, if you did this, do
Speaker 1: it right now. Okay, does that without without distorting the lips, right,
Speaker 1: do it like that? That's all the way. Doesn't that
Speaker 1: look great? Oh?
Speaker 2: That looks great?
Speaker 1: Okay, So that's all the way for you. For a man, if.
Speaker 2: I'm doing this now, I must do this the rest of.
Speaker 1: The mis If a man is sixty five and he
Speaker 1: looks like that, it's there's something and not congruent, some
Speaker 1: incomebruent about it. There's something like why does this sixty
Speaker 1: five seventy year old man have no laxity. It doesn't work.
Speaker 1: It looks altered, particularly with the gray hair or the
Speaker 1: no hair. It just looks weird. It doesn't look weird
Speaker 1: for a woman. It doesn't look weird for a woman.
Speaker 1: So that's the basic principle. I don't think plastic surgeons
Speaker 1: are appreciating right now.
Speaker 3: That's like when I used to, like when I first
Speaker 3: started getting like a botox touch up, like when I
Speaker 3: was in my thirties. I remember I would go with
Speaker 3: like a guy friend, and yeah, it didn't look good.
Speaker 3: It was like, oh wow, like you know, I looked frozen.
Speaker 3: It was cool, Like he looked frozen. And he was like,
Speaker 3: oh no.
Speaker 1: It's too much. It's you shouldn't look shiny and frozen
Speaker 1: as a guy. It doesn't. We just were supposed to
Speaker 1: have lines. It's masculine to have the elevens, to have
Speaker 1: transverse forehead lines. You're supposed to have some crows feed,
Speaker 1: all right. I mean you look at who is the
Speaker 1: guy who drove the Ferrari and why that's one of
Speaker 1: the most gorgeous men of all time? You know the
Speaker 1: tv PI, what's the most Selick. Tom Okay, you take
Speaker 1: Tom Selleck at thirty five, right, he had wrinkles. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it looked awesome. If Tom Sellick today were to have
Speaker 1: female type plastic surgery and have everything erased, it would
Speaker 1: look weird.
Speaker 3: But in all fairness, like that was the eighties. Like
Speaker 3: what it's like the Golden Girls notion. It's like, it's true,
Speaker 3: everyone's starting earlier and earlier, but.
Speaker 1: Even you know, thirty five year old, forty year old
Speaker 1: guys got upper eye lid litting and wrinkling, it's still
Speaker 1: still good. You know. The only one I've seen who
Speaker 1: really has gotten away with it completely.
Speaker 2: I don't know that not plastic surgery. I just mean
Speaker 2: looking like kill his age, but he's still so hot.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, he's great. But the one who's have gotten
Speaker 1: away with and I don't know what he's done, okay,
Speaker 1: but the one who sort of hasn't aged at all
Speaker 1: and it doesn't look like plastic surgery is Brad Pitt.
Speaker 1: Brad Pitt really looks good. And I don't know if
Speaker 1: he's had a face left, but we know he has,
Speaker 1: but I don't know if he's had a face, but.
Speaker 2: He looks really good. Yeah, I saw f one and
Speaker 2: I was like, what, but.
Speaker 1: I have a theories to what he looks good and
Speaker 1: not weird? Looking like ready, why Brad Pitt? Okay, you
Speaker 1: tell me yours first.
Speaker 3: I feel like his overall like being in skin, and
Speaker 3: everything got better when he got sober.
Speaker 2: Oh so I felt like the lifestyle changed.
Speaker 1: Well, I just mean, why does Brad Pitt at sixty
Speaker 1: with no wrinkles and no Lasia's face, why does that
Speaker 1: look okay? Whereas another male at sixty sixty five with
Speaker 1: no wrinkles and no laxity, why do they look weird?
Speaker 1: Because Brad Pitt's looks are based on feminine beauty. If
Speaker 1: you look at him in the Legends of the Fall,
Speaker 1: he's hotter than any female who's in the movie, right,
Speaker 1: he's prettier. So I think, if you're a pretty guy,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, if you're a raw blow, if you're a
Speaker 1: John Stamos, if you're a Brad Pitt, you can have
Speaker 1: feminizing plastic surgery and it looks good. But if you're
Speaker 1: you know, a different kind of handsome that's not based
Speaker 1: on a feminine look and you have feminizing plastic surgery,
Speaker 1: it's super weird.
Speaker 2: Would you drop the scalpel like that you did. Yes,
Speaker 2: you just explained it all. This is right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you have to be a feminine looking guy to
Speaker 1: have full plastic surgery when you're in your sixties, late fifties,
Speaker 1: early seventies to not look weird. Boy, there you go.
Speaker 2: What if you already well, I don't know, like look
Speaker 2: like a masculine woman. Me, I don't know.
Speaker 1: You don't look like a masculine What do you mean about?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I read the comments over the years and it sticks
Speaker 3: in my brain. Are people mean you say I look
Speaker 3: like Wendy Williams and Marlon and Sean Wayms from White Chicks?
Speaker 1: Wow, that is so incredibly mean.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you can smile. I think it's fun.
Speaker 1: I don't think. I think, well, those are the people.
Speaker 1: I mean, we're poaching on the housewife with the comments.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? You know, it's it's so
Speaker 1: much easier to sit as a keyboard warrior behind this,
Speaker 1: you know, behind your little screen, being so mean to
Speaker 1: people poaching at you. But you know what's weird. The
Speaker 1: weird phenomenon of being famous is that. And see if
Speaker 1: you agree, well, tell me if you do agree with this,
Speaker 1: there could be a thou you're the greatest. I love you,
Speaker 1: look how hot you look? And three you've had too
Speaker 1: much plastic surgery. You look a certain terrible way and
Speaker 1: you don't even see the good comments. All you really
Speaker 1: register are the negative comments.
Speaker 3: Right, yes, oh thousand percent. But that's like in life
Speaker 3: in general, whether it's in high school, if it's in
Speaker 3: your workplace, if it's in your community. People could say
Speaker 3: great things to you, and it's that one person that
Speaker 3: bullies you or says something that you heard about and
Speaker 3: you're like, oh, you can't un hear it.
Speaker 1: So that's true. You could be going about your day
Speaker 1: and having the greatest day and that one comment from
Speaker 1: that one person just ruins everything, even though everyone has
Speaker 1: told you up until that point, how great you look,
Speaker 1: and oh my gosh, you've done you're doing so well.
Speaker 1: I think that's human nature. I think that's something we
Speaker 1: all have to work on. It's really hard and it's unfortunate.
Speaker 2: I agree. Wait, offline, can we talk about my facelift
Speaker 2: in the future.
Speaker 1: By the way, truthfully, you are the world's easiest facelift.
Speaker 1: You you can, You're going to do it. If you
Speaker 1: do it in the future, you're going to do a christianametrical.
Speaker 2: I'm screwed.
Speaker 1: No you're not. You're going to do a Christian everything because, uh,
Speaker 1: you're gonna look I mean, you look great, because when
Speaker 1: you do this, it is like, I know, isn't that pretty? People?
Speaker 3: Well, a lot of times I see these facelifts, beautiful women.
Speaker 3: I'm like, gosh, they look great. Oh you know what.
Speaker 2: Sorry, I'm like distracted.
Speaker 1: You know what.
Speaker 2: I love when people.
Speaker 3: Here's how I am starting to know people got a facelift,
Speaker 3: even if I can't really tell. They start wearing ponytails
Speaker 3: all the time. Everyone has their hair back in a ponytail.
Speaker 3: I'm like, wow, they're proud. They're proud they have a
Speaker 3: new draw line. Great and new neck awesome. Okay, sorry,
Speaker 3: what was I saying?
Speaker 1: That's that's a good sign? Yeah yeah, well well I
Speaker 1: mean that the position goes away.
Speaker 2: I'm worried about.
Speaker 3: I see people and all of a sudden, their chin's
Speaker 3: gone because it gets olden, it gets too Do you
Speaker 3: think that's too tiny?
Speaker 1: You're to know. I think what happens with certain faces
Speaker 1: is when you get some laxity in particularly along the
Speaker 1: jaw line, it makes the shape the shape of the
Speaker 1: face more square.
Speaker 3: Ew just like people get killer in their drawing, it
Speaker 3: can be more square.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, but you know it can widen the face,
Speaker 1: and that can have a masculinizing effect on a female
Speaker 1: and for some people, just by virtue of doing you know,
Speaker 1: lower mini lift and getting more definition along the jaw line,
Speaker 1: it's super feminizing in a good way for women. Obviously,
Speaker 1: that's a really good thing. And I think that's kind
Speaker 1: of what happened to Chris Jenner in a way. She
Speaker 1: really got a really nice dep definition and it really
Speaker 1: had an incredibly positive effect on her facial shape.
Speaker 2: You know, do you feel like, I mean she had
Speaker 2: had something done before.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she admitted to it. Yeah, she admitted to having
Speaker 1: a facelift before.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, well that's scary because you're like, well, if
Speaker 3: I don't get it right this time, second time, maybe
Speaker 3: third times, the charm like.
Speaker 1: Well, I think you know, she had a procedure that
Speaker 1: improved or decreased the width, made the jawnline more narrow.
Speaker 1: I think she had some stuff taken off the submandibular
Speaker 1: glands here, which is a procedure that that surgeon does
Speaker 1: very well, and that that really I mean she just
Speaker 1: looks great.
Speaker 3: It's really sexy when you keep going from like vertical
Speaker 3: to horizontal and vertical.
Speaker 1: You know, you know what it is. He's trying to
Speaker 1: call me. Would you do me a favor? Would you
Speaker 1: text my wife until her I'm doing your podcast?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: Or get her on FaceTime? Don't you enjoin it? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Get her on FaceTime? Say, hey's Tori, I'm doing it
Speaker 1: podcast with your husband. Will you you're calling him? Join us?
Speaker 1: Why not? This will be fun.
Speaker 2: I'm doing a podcast with your husband. Can we FaceTime you?
Speaker 1: Otherwise she's going to keep calling me during this podcast
Speaker 1: like what she was. Oh, yes, join us.
Speaker 2: Coming in hot, that's lady and gentlemen.
Speaker 1: Heatherd Brow Oh my god, Now I have.
Speaker 2: To figure out how to do it. Oh god, wait, no,
Speaker 2: that's wrong way Hi wait, I'm trying to I can't
Speaker 2: figure out how to around. He didn't want to not
Speaker 2: answer you, so we decided to just get you on videos.
Speaker 1: My god. No, it was just about I just need
Speaker 1: him to call my daughter when you guys are done?
Speaker 1: What's on an emergency? Everything's fine?
Speaker 2: How are you, honey? I'm good. I love you. I
Speaker 2: love you till.
Speaker 1: You're coming on my show.
Speaker 2: I'm so excited two weeks me too. Love you both, okay,
Speaker 2: love you.
Speaker 1: Just call me when you're done to you Okay, I
Speaker 1: will love you. Okay, love you guys.
Speaker 2: Bye bye.
Speaker 1: Almost thirty years married.
Speaker 3: I don't know how you guys do it, because you guys,
Speaker 3: I see them in real life.
Speaker 2: They're really in love. It's I don't sorry that came
Speaker 2: out wrong.
Speaker 3: It's just you know, when you've raised kids and been
Speaker 3: together so long, I don't know you guys still have marriage.
Speaker 1: Marriage. Marriage, as you know is there is a challenge, right.
Speaker 1: It has its ups and downs. We've found a way
Speaker 1: to work through the downs. The ups are easy. We've
Speaker 1: you know, we've all had downs. But uh, she's so
Speaker 1: cool and she would laugh at she wouldn't agree with this.
Speaker 1: But I'm really easy going. So one of you is
Speaker 1: super easy going and she's not me, not so easy going,
Speaker 1: Heather to broken be. But but she's sweet, and I'm sweet. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you know, the best sweet and the biggest heart
Speaker 1: you know. And I'm the kind of person where in
Speaker 1: the middle of the fight, I'm over it and I'm
Speaker 1: already apologizing. Even if I know I'm right, i start apologizing, which,
Speaker 1: by the way, pisses her off because she knows I
Speaker 1: don't really.
Speaker 2: I was going to be like, oh my gosh, I
Speaker 2: wish I've had someone like that.
Speaker 1: No, not nou It would piss you off too. I'll
Speaker 1: tell you what. You're arguing with your significant other and
Speaker 1: they're over it and they go, you know, I'm really sorry.
Speaker 1: You know they're not They're disingenuous and they're not sincere.
Speaker 1: They just don't want to fight anymore. They're really like,
Speaker 1: let it go, and you know, you want your pound
Speaker 1: of flesh in the middle of that argument and they're
Speaker 1: giving up and going, I give up. That's not good enough. Okay,
Speaker 1: yeah for you, for your your mails, your audience. You know,
Speaker 1: we're in a relationship with intense people just letting go
Speaker 1: hand cream right now I am. I'm putting on my
Speaker 1: hand cream. You know, I as a surgeon, I don't
Speaker 1: want to get really you know, creepy old man hands,
Speaker 1: because you know, people come in for a constant they
Speaker 1: look at your hands, particularly when you're getting a little
Speaker 1: bit older, and they're going, oh, I don't want this
Speaker 1: craggly old hand guy operating on me. So I use
Speaker 1: a lot of hand creams.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I was just looking at your hands
Speaker 3: via this and I was like, oh my gosh, only hands.
Speaker 1: No, I put it on my arms, I put on
Speaker 1: my knees.
Speaker 3: No, no, it would be a good business only hands only, surgeon. Yeah,
Speaker 3: people would pay big money to see your hands, because
Speaker 3: I was just like, you just put your hands up,
Speaker 3: and I was like zoomed in, like yccess because you're right,
Speaker 3: you're going to look at a surgeon's hands.
Speaker 1: Of course you are, so so oh go.
Speaker 3: Ahead, Oh no, no, no, I just want to ask
Speaker 3: you a question. I have creepy hands because I never
Speaker 3: listened to everybody around me and didn't put on hand cream.
Speaker 3: And my face is like, fine, it's my hands.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well can you do well? You know I'm not
Speaker 1: here to promote my skin care line. I don't want
Speaker 1: to be that guy, but you know of someone like me.
Speaker 1: I have my own skincare line with Heather for eleven years.
Speaker 1: We have and I didn't bring this up to do this.
Speaker 1: This was not planned, no, I know. But we have
Speaker 1: a hand cream called the Champagne Beauty body Cream, which
Speaker 1: has all these nutritionally supportive things to maximize the last
Speaker 1: of production. Blah blah blah. That's what I've been using
Speaker 1: twice a day forever.
Speaker 2: Going back to the Chris Jenner thing. Oh so I
Speaker 2: don't know. Wait she said the name of her surgeon. Correct, Yeah,
Speaker 2: the guy in New York. In New York.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 3: So I read it online and I was like, I
Speaker 3: don't know. I like tanked myself. I was like, oh
Speaker 3: my god, like she looks younger than Kim looks now
Speaker 3: And I was just like, is this the new wave?
Speaker 2: I just want to know what I should do?
Speaker 3: So I went online to make a point a consultation.
Speaker 3: The consultation was five thousand. I didn't go to the consultation,
Speaker 3: but I emailed and they reached out if you'd like
Speaker 3: to book a consultation.
Speaker 2: It's five thousand dollars just for a consultation.
Speaker 1: Oh it gets it gets worse. Do you know those
Speaker 1: those New York guys. You know what the average selling
Speaker 1: price of a facelift is in Manhattan for those guys,
Speaker 1: three hundred and fifty thousand dollars.
Speaker 2: Oh man?
Speaker 1: Yeah, And when you know, and really, is it really
Speaker 1: any different than a thirty five thousand dollars facelift? And
Speaker 1: Ensino No, it really isn't. That's the whole thing, this
Speaker 1: whole and that my understanding is that wasn't even a
Speaker 1: deep plane facelift. You know, wherever there are these fancy
Speaker 1: terms in front of the face, deep plane, ponytail, nano fat, delivery,
Speaker 1: new age. It's a lot of advertisement. I would just
Speaker 1: don't be persuaded by all the fancies, you know, kind
Speaker 1: of advertising terms that we in the business put in
Speaker 1: front of things to have patients come into our office,
Speaker 1: like ozembic face. Oh my gosh, plastic surgeons love this
Speaker 1: phenomenon of ozembic face panic. I call it where Oh,
Speaker 1: if you're on a GLP one, and everybody I know
Speaker 1: is on a GLP one, Okay, why shouldn't they be.
Speaker 1: It's great for you and it keeps the weight off right,
Speaker 1: but oh my gosh, your skin. As soon as you
Speaker 1: go on the GLP one, you're gonna have ozempic face.
Speaker 1: You need to come into our offices and start having filler.
Speaker 1: Put it in its sort of the last thing in
Speaker 1: the world you should do. O ozempic face panic. Maybe
Speaker 1: just slow down the weight loss and or at least
Speaker 1: wait a little bit and that it'll recover the elasticsey recovery.
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, when you deliver a baby and
Speaker 1: you look at your stomach skin the first three weeks
Speaker 1: right after delivery. Yes, okay, compare that to how it
Speaker 1: looks seven months later.
Speaker 2: You're right, it does go back.
Speaker 1: The face who after ozembic face does the same thing.
Speaker 1: Because you think about it, it's super rapid weight loss,
Speaker 1: just like when you deliver a baby. It's super rapid
Speaker 1: weight loss. You know, it's the placenta and the baby.
Speaker 1: It's like twelve pounds and all of a sudden, it's
Speaker 1: not being stretched out anymore. And can you imagine saying
Speaker 1: to people, oh, it's pregnancy belly, you need to come
Speaker 1: in within a week. We wouldn't shame them. No, it's
Speaker 1: just people that don't understand. But people online will say
Speaker 1: a million things about GLP ones, but they don't even
Speaker 1: understand what it can do for you beyond just weight loss,
Speaker 1: Like there's so many benefits and it's like it's it's
Speaker 1: all about sugar and the inflammatory effects of sugar. You know,
Speaker 1: it's about these GLP one by the way, whereas it
Speaker 1: I I don't even I don't even practice OBC medicine,
Speaker 1: But I'm so obsessed with these GLP one drugs that
Speaker 1: I studied for a year and I took the American
Speaker 1: Board of OBC Medicine Certification exam and I got board certified.
Speaker 1: Is that, oh, I have a this is this is
Speaker 1: just you know, I have a full diploma. So I'm now,
Speaker 1: you know, triple board certified plaster and general surgery. And
Speaker 1: now do you know about the pep tides? Are you
Speaker 1: into the pep tides?
Speaker 3: I've done them. I've done them before. I'm not sure
Speaker 3: do they matter?
Speaker 1: Do they work?
Speaker 2: I did yeah years ago. The injections like when it
Speaker 2: first started. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Well, but an AD is like one of those peptides.
Speaker 1: I don't like an A D. I mean, I look
Speaker 1: after people I talked to are on ne e D.
Speaker 1: All my patients are on all the peptis. I'm in
Speaker 1: Beverly Hills and I moved my practice to Beverly Hills.
Speaker 1: Patient comes in burn Console, I go, all, right, what
Speaker 1: peptides do on? Oh you're on LAZI, you're on ND,
Speaker 1: you're on GHKC, you the okay, and oh you're on
Speaker 1: ratitude the whole you know, right, gosh, you know, but
Speaker 1: the evidence is for these peptides. It's based on rat studies. Rats.
Speaker 1: There's no human studies for ninety percent of these things.
Speaker 1: You like rats, but about eighty nine percent of rat
Speaker 1: studies are not translatable to humans. So what cures cancer
Speaker 1: in rats doesn't cure cancer in humans. It's a lot
Speaker 1: easier to cure diseases and turn back the clock in
Speaker 1: a rat that it is in a human. We're much
Speaker 1: more complicated. So this is like the wild wild West
Speaker 1: of human experimentation going on with peptides. Having said that,
Speaker 1: I am obsessed with them.
Speaker 2: Tides and podcasts, the wild wild West. Here we go.
Speaker 1: Well, I love I love podcasts for me.
Speaker 2: Too, but it's world like not new.
Speaker 1: But you don't know. I mean my entertainment, you know,
Speaker 1: used to be television. I almost never watch television. Now
Speaker 1: I listen to and watch podcasts like my favorite thing
Speaker 1: to do. I'm obsessed with. I think that's how we
Speaker 1: get our information out from podcasts. Right, this is true.
Speaker 2: And you have a podcast though.
Speaker 1: Idea, Well, our podcast is just like what are we
Speaker 1: doing with our life between me and heaven? Between us?
Speaker 1: I don't yeah. I mean, if if a person's interested
Speaker 1: in what Heather and Terry debrou welcome. If you're not,
Speaker 1: don't bother listening.
Speaker 2: But you guys are super engaging. Like I I love it.
Speaker 1: But you know what the good news is in terms
Speaker 1: of the wait thing, there's a new drug about to
Speaker 1: come out, okay called REDDA True Tide. Have you heard
Speaker 1: of it? I'll bet you have rihtta. You heard of this? Yes,
Speaker 1: it's about to be FDA approved. People are already compounding
Speaker 1: and using it online. But it's by Eli Lilly, the
Speaker 1: one who does monjar O zep bound. It's the next level.
Speaker 1: It's the triple Agatis. There's another hormone in it besides
Speaker 1: g IP and GLP one. It's it's cut glucagon too.
Speaker 1: It's got a fat burner in it. And I'm telling
Speaker 1: you nobody's going to be overweight in the future. We're
Speaker 1: gonna take everybody's gonna be on these GP one. By
Speaker 1: the way, there's another one in the pipeline that's got
Speaker 1: all of that in it, plus a muscle enhancer called
Speaker 1: myostatin inhibitor that Eli Lilly. So we're all going to
Speaker 1: be and this is within probably three years. We're all
Speaker 1: going to be skinny and muscular without having to do anything.
Speaker 1: And it's true. This is not hyperbole, it's not bus
Speaker 1: at all. This is a real thing. Your audience can
Speaker 1: go online and look at Reddit true tide plus myostatin inhibitor,
Speaker 1: and it's like, oh my gosh, very very soon, this
Speaker 1: whole weight loss. Nobody's going to be overweight anymore, you know,
Speaker 1: or or not muscular.
Speaker 2: Or or not old not anymore.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. And we're all gonna have to find
Speaker 1: something to do before the robots take over. It's scary.
Speaker 2: Have you seen Ryan Murphy's The Beauty My Chance?
Speaker 1: I loved it.
Speaker 2: By the way, the last episode, don't say a word.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to tell you anything about it. I
Speaker 1: would never spoiler alert.
Speaker 2: I've watched it as the entire series, but not the last.
Speaker 1: So I love the first six episodes. And it got
Speaker 1: a little funky and silly. Oh yeah, no, it was
Speaker 1: good till okay, it tends to. Yeah, it did a
Speaker 1: little jumping of the shark. It got a little, uh,
Speaker 1: kind of ridiculous for a moment. I think maybe the
Speaker 1: last episode is the most ridiculous one. I'm not ruined
Speaker 1: anything all.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it happens it's so bummed.
Speaker 1: I know, but don't you think it's great?
Speaker 2: It's so good.
Speaker 3: Well, I originally wanted to see it because Death Becomes
Speaker 3: Her as one of my favorite movies of all time
Speaker 3: with Meryl Streep, Goldie Hawn, Bruce Willis where you know,
Speaker 3: get that and you know the thing forever the substance
Speaker 3: with de me moour, Yes, And that was a terrifying
Speaker 3: version of it.
Speaker 1: Right, Well, this is kind of terrifying the beauty too,
Speaker 1: isn't it in a way? People blowing up?
Speaker 3: I just blinked on her name? What is her name?
Speaker 3: The Isabella Rossolini? Right, Remember she gives it to Meryl
Speaker 3: Streep and then she goes now a warning and she's like,
Speaker 3: now warning. So I was like, that's so that's why
Speaker 3: she's in this one, right because original to call back.
Speaker 1: But here's the question for you. Someone comes to you
Speaker 1: and they go, hey, we've got this new injection all
Speaker 1: right that we're going to inject at you, and you're
Speaker 1: going to turn into a super young, best version of
Speaker 1: yourself that you possibly could be, and you're going to
Speaker 1: be unrecognizable to everybody who's ever known you, including your kids.
Speaker 1: But you're going to be incredibly gorgeous and perfect and
Speaker 1: a ten out of ten? Are you doing it?
Speaker 3: Am I thinking about this as tory spelling or just
Speaker 3: like a female. This is impossible that no one would
Speaker 3: recognize me. Like if I turn into like suddenly a
Speaker 3: twenty year old Donna Martin, They're still going to recognize me.
Speaker 1: No, wait a minute. You saw what happened to when
Speaker 1: they get injection of the beauty there.
Speaker 3: So it's not a younger version of you. It's a
Speaker 3: little bit different.
Speaker 1: Right, like that FBI agent suddenly got a British accent. No,
Speaker 1: you wouldn't, because well, the point is Isabella Rossellini on
Speaker 1: that show, despite the fact that her husband did took
Speaker 1: the shot, her kids took the shot, she not taking
Speaker 1: the shot, not taking it yet. I'm not going to
Speaker 1: tell you about the last episode. I know that's not spoiler.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: I know by the way, the last episode just you know,
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with what we've been talking about.
Speaker 1: This Isabelle ross LDI, whether or not she's gonna take
Speaker 1: the shot has a total shocking ending. Yes, total shock
Speaker 1: that you're going to go what, yeah, you're gonna.
Speaker 2: Go in Ashton Kutcher, do you think I.
Speaker 1: Think he's forty four. Here, somebody needs to check that.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna guess forty four. He looks great. By the way,
Speaker 1: Why did he's forty eight? He's forty eight? Okay, even okay.
Speaker 3: Okay, does this go with your theory of a beautiful man?
Speaker 1: But he's not like he hasn't had a facelift.
Speaker 2: I can promise you I don't think he's had a facelift.
Speaker 2: But he he looks real.
Speaker 1: Good, you know, whether he's had botox or not. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's always been incredibly, incredibly handsome guy. He's still is
Speaker 1: right always.
Speaker 3: But Mila Kunis is his wife. She looks incredible, like
Speaker 3: the two of them are just very the held up.
Speaker 1: Well do you know them? I would imagine they'd be
Speaker 1: in your circle. I do.
Speaker 2: I do know them.
Speaker 1: I hear they're very nice, right, very very nice.
Speaker 2: It's very nice. Yeah, well I'm very nice. And my
Speaker 2: face is falling. So is that mean it means nothing?
Speaker 1: Your face is not falling.
Speaker 3: It's the mean people, the Jonah age.
Speaker 1: This is what I advise people. If you know one
Speaker 1: day you're going to bite the bullet and do the
Speaker 1: facelift thing, yes, if you know for sure, you're going
Speaker 1: to do it. And if you do this to your
Speaker 1: face and it looks markedly better, earlier is better than later.
Speaker 1: Earlier is better than later, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: because it's a lot less surgery, a lot less surgery,
Speaker 1: a lot easier to recover from.
Speaker 2: Can you tell me this five years ago?
Speaker 1: I don't think you. I don't think you need it now.
Speaker 1: I don't think you needed it five years ago ago.
Speaker 2: That's so yeah.
Speaker 3: The thing now, like, yeah, forty seven year olds, forty
Speaker 3: eight year olds are getting it, and I'm.
Speaker 1: Like that, by the way, thirty eight year olds are
Speaker 1: coming in now for it, and doctors are selling doctors
Speaker 1: are selling thirty four year olds on face. Do not
Speaker 1: do this at thirty four, because it's not going to
Speaker 1: settle right if you do too many, and once the
Speaker 1: angle of its droppings, it all, it all relaxes with time, right,
Speaker 1: But once it drops in a weird angle, if you've
Speaker 1: had too many and you start to look altered, it's
Speaker 1: really hard to go back from that.
Speaker 2: So you know, I agree with you not to let
Speaker 2: it go so much that it's like whoah.
Speaker 1: But not too early either. I mean, look, if you're
Speaker 1: thirty eight you've lost three hundred pounds and your face
Speaker 1: is droopy. Okay, that's fine, But if it's just starting
Speaker 1: to you know, the future of plastic surgery, the very
Speaker 1: near future is going to be non invasive skin tightening
Speaker 1: things that we do. Right, These they're not that great yet,
Speaker 1: but they're getting better. These radio frequency micro needling things
Speaker 1: where you, you know, punch little microscopic holes and you
Speaker 1: use growth factors in your own blood, you know, and
Speaker 1: you deliver energy transmission devices. I mean, I went to
Speaker 1: med school. I graduated med school in eighty six, right,
Speaker 1: that was twenty four now it was fourteen plus twenty. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was forty one years ago. All right. If you
Speaker 1: would have told me when I graduated med school that
Speaker 1: in twoenty twenty six you're going to be using a scalpel,
Speaker 1: a scissors and lifting and pulling back. In fact, you're
Speaker 1: going to even go deeper than you've ever done before
Speaker 1: and cutting it off and stitchy, I always said, no, way,
Speaker 1: forty one years from now, we'll be using lasers and energy.
Speaker 1: It'll be you know, Star Trek, and we're still doing
Speaker 1: scalpels and scissors and sutures. It's weird. Isn't it. We
Speaker 1: need to get it to the point where we stop
Speaker 1: with the cutting and the bleeding and the complications and
Speaker 1: go and get this collagen and the elastin to tighten up.
Speaker 1: And it's now about no.
Speaker 3: No, don't say that. Heather would be very mad. You
Speaker 3: wouldn't have a job. Well, you have to make the
Speaker 3: big books.
Speaker 1: Well I've I've sort of, you know, done pretty well already.
Speaker 1: I don't need it. I do. I do surgery because
Speaker 1: I love it. I do surgery because I've acquired specialized
Speaker 1: skills at revisional surgery that very people have. I can
Speaker 1: fix complications that you know, plast surgeon may see once
Speaker 1: in their career. I see them every week. So I
Speaker 1: enjoy it. I don't really do it for that reason anymore.
Speaker 1: I could certainly stop right now. And I do a
Speaker 1: lot of other things too. I have a skincare line,
Speaker 1: I'm a medical legal expert. I do eb you know,
Speaker 1: I don't really need to operate, you know a little bit.
Speaker 2: I was making a joke. I love, by the way,
Speaker 2: botched like huge fan I used to.
Speaker 3: I just remember when I first started watching it, I'd
Speaker 3: be like, oh my god, this is what people say
Speaker 3: is wrong with me, My nose is watched. But then
Speaker 3: I started to honestly fall in love with your passion
Speaker 3: and how you change people's lives, and I see it
Speaker 3: right now.
Speaker 2: It's like me when I talk about food.
Speaker 3: I'm a foodie, Like you're talking about what you do
Speaker 3: and I could see how you love it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm very, very I've been very lucky in my life.