1 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Solid Verbal. I'll that for me. I'm 2 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: a man, I'm forty. 3 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 2: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to 4 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 2: be happy. 5 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: You want to be happy for dake Edo State. Is that? 6 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 1: Whoo whoom? And Dan and Tye, welcome back to the 7 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 1: Solid Verbal, Boys and girls. My name is Ty Hildebrand 8 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: joining me over there in beautiful New York City. You 9 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: know him as Dan Rubinstein, Sir, how are you? Ty? 10 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: I'm good. 11 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 2: I just I Sometimes I wake up feeling like, now 12 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 2: that we're talking Pack twelve today, you're not going to 13 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 2: play right. I used to know. I used to really 14 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 2: know this, but now it's just it don't feel right. Ty, 15 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 2: I don't know what it is, and it's made me 16 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 2: put away my pride. 17 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 1: Ooh uh so long. 18 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 2: Ty with this episode with the package Childish Gambino, This 19 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 2: child is Childish Gambino. 20 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: I don't know the name of the song Childish Gambino. 21 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 2: It's it's Redbone, Redbone Daylight. 22 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 1: How are you? Man? You know? Ty? 23 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 2: Now that we have saved the best for last, and 24 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 2: that would be Pack twelve discussion, I shouldn't say that 25 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 2: because we're also talking Notre Dame. Uh and is that 26 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 2: what we're doing. We're doing that right. We are doing 27 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 2: our teams last Pack twelve and Notre Dame, which, if 28 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 2: you're listening to this right now, get your grandparents in 29 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 2: the room, okay, and this is. 30 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: Just fu Okay, Grandpa, grab pop it the song. Verbal 31 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 1: boys are going to talk Notre Day. Stop it, Grandpa. 32 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: I'm yelling. The neighbors are coming out of their homes here, Grandpa. 33 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: I'm excited to do this show. By the way, Yeah, 34 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 1: I'm not going to yell breaking news to save my 35 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: voice my energy for the remainder of this show. But 36 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: people are going to be listening to this show, and 37 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: there are going to be five college football games in 38 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: the books already. You're going to hear this show on 39 00:01:56,640 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: a Sunday, which means that I think we need to 40 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: preemptively do some game recaps. Maybe once we get into 41 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: our Stanford preview, we can do that because they're playing 42 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: a game in did I see Australia, Sydney Australia. They 43 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: already did time, Oh already played Stanford Rice. How about 44 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: that one Oregon State, Colorado State hoo to funk wowsa, 45 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 1: that's right. Another just houdah I didn't see that coming before. 46 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: At forty thousand strong at Alliance Stadium in Sydney, Australia, Allians. Yeah, yeah, 47 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 1: what do we call these games? By the way, we 48 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 1: had someone email us or tweet us asking what the 49 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: proper nomenclature is for these early season games? Are they 50 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:53,639 Speaker 1: appetizer games? Appartifs they're snacks? Sometimes you see on menu 51 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 1: that there's snacks, appetizers, entree and the snacks are just 52 00:02:57,440 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 1: like you know, deviled eggs or something that you wouldn't 53 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: fully hall and appetizer just a bite like a finger food. Yeah, 54 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 1: it's the scene in something about I'm just actually I'm 55 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:07,679 Speaker 1: not going to go there, Ty, I'm just not doing 56 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 1: go there because it's a family program. 57 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 2: We have grandparents listening. That's right, Grandpa, And yeah, it 58 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 2: just snacks, the snacks. 59 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 1: Well, if there are any Australian for ballers who will 60 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: be there, they're already there. Tweet us let us know. 61 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: We actually do have a fair amount of Australian for 62 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: ballers who listen to the program, So send us pictures 63 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: and tweets and all that fun stuff. If you were 64 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: at the football game last night between Stanford and UH 65 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: and Rice. 66 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 2: What a fight between Connor McGregor and Floyd anyway, Holy Holy, 67 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 2: they're not going to be able to show that one again. 68 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: Very good, very good. All right, just making sure we 69 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: cover all our base. Thank you. We do have a 70 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: new home for our pickam pool. Shortly after we did 71 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: the show on Wednesday, we were able to find a solution. 72 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: Go to our web page, look at the posting for 73 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: this particular episode. Look on Twitter, look on Facebook. The 74 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: new link for the pick and Pool could be found there. 75 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: Get in if you haven't already. People who got in 76 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: the old Yahoo one. We're not going to be keeping tabs. 77 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: Feel free to pick your games in there if you 78 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: so desire. We will not be keeping tabs in that one. 79 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: The official one has been moved elsewhere, So go to 80 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: the website check it out again. We're on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, 81 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: all the hotspots. You can find all the information you 82 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 1: need right there. Great job, Ty. So as you eluded Dan, 83 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 1: We've got one conference left. We've got one big independent 84 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 1: team left, Dan. That conference. That conference is the PAC twelve. Yep, 85 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: that an independent team is you Mass. I would like 86 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,840 Speaker 1: to start in the south and go north. It can 87 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 1: be our college football Nile River. Here, you will close 88 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: out with Oregon and No Tree Dame. Okay, As we 89 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: start in the South, I think it's fairly obvious that 90 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 1: the team everyone's got their eye on is the USC Trojans, right. 91 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 1: I think that's correct USC ten and three a year ago. Obviously, 92 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:15,919 Speaker 1: it starts with your twenty eighteen first overall draft choice, 93 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: Sam Darnald, Dan crank up that dang hype machine. Yeah, 94 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 1: that train is a chuggin. If you didn't already know 95 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: every other miscellaneous fact about Sam Darnold, maybe about his 96 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: grandfather being the Marlborough Man, or the fact that he 97 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 1: played multiple sports in high school, any of that kind 98 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: of stuff. If you didn't know it, you will soon. 99 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 1: Here though, is the coolest if you didn't see it, 100 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: we tweeted it. He is co hosting a podcast with 101 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: our friend Yogi Roth. The season of Sam much better 102 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: than the summer of Sam. I don't have anything to 103 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:00,479 Speaker 1: add about him on the field. His numbers last were 104 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 1: remarkably consistent for what a red shirt freshman whatever he was. Yes, 105 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 1: if you watched him, he's got a presence. There's a 106 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: ton of reason to be excited, a ton of reason 107 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 1: to think that he's really special. Do you have anything 108 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 1: to add beyond that. 109 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 2: As it relates to Sam Donald specifically, you know that 110 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 2: he has the capability of being special. The thing that 111 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 2: will affect Sam Donald though, and what his season looks like, 112 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 2: is replacing a couple starters on the line that moved 113 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 2: on to the NFL, replacing two big receivers and Juju Smith, 114 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:35,479 Speaker 2: Schuster and Darius Rogers, and the familiarity is. It's going 115 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 2: to take a little bit of time, but he has 116 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 2: a ton of young, speedy talent to work with, talent. 117 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 1: The guys are stepping up because it's USC. I do 118 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: worry about the line. I do worry about who he's 119 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: throwing to. I like that he's got Ronald Jones back. 120 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 1: That should provide USC with some big playability on the ground. Defensively, 121 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: there's a little turnover at all three levels of their defense, 122 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: but there is a ton of talent coming back there 123 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: as well. I thought about going doodle alert on Cam 124 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: Smith because he's weirdly like Anonymous despite being a star 125 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: middle linebacker. Yeah, I mean, the injuries have hurt, yeah, 126 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: but I'm excited about the potential for this defense with 127 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: some new guys stepping up again. You'll lose guys like 128 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: Adorri Jackson and there are some others, but I still 129 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: feel pretty good as a whole. 130 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you nailed it. Rasheem Green is legitimately 131 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 2: a Pac twelve star. Along the defensive line, very good. 132 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 2: I think he led he All returning tacklers are led 133 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 2: by Rasheem Green. Yes, you're right. Cam Smith is very good. 134 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 2: Port Augustin is probably their best pass rushing option. They've 135 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 2: recruited very well in the secondary. Really, if there is 136 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 2: a weakness to this USC team, I think it is 137 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 2: the speed. And that is not to say that there's 138 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 2: not talents, which there very clearly is, and I'm not 139 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 2: worried that they're going to be at all a letdown, 140 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 2: but it is working in new receivers and perhaps the 141 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 2: back end. They gave up some big plays last year, 142 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 2: and there is a little bit of inexperience that could 143 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 2: be a little bit concerning. Because the level of quarterbacking 144 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 2: in the Pac twelve is pretty high, if not the 145 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 2: highest in the country. So if you're going to nitpick, 146 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 2: those are small issues because the talent is so high 147 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 2: in LA and there's consistency along the coaching staff, and 148 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 2: this is you know, it's crazy to say, given what 149 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 2: we saw with Sark and before that Lane Kiffin. This 150 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 2: is Clay Helton's team. He has a good staff in there. 151 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 2: So USC is probably the team I'm worried about the least. 152 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:33,559 Speaker 2: Other than that schedule without a bye week, the. 153 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: Schedule's kind of right in that goldilocks zone. If you're 154 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 1: looking to make a title run. It's not too easy, 155 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 1: not too ridiculous. Home against Texas at Notre Dame the 156 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 1: non conference. Yeah, and that Texas is a week after Stanford, 157 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: right correct. Tougher games not impossible, good non conference opponents 158 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: home against Stanford. Week two, huge game home against Utah 159 00:08:56,000 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: home I use air quotes here against Ucla. Those might 160 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: be their toughest conference games. 161 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 2: I have the Wazoo game circled Wazoo could be interesting 162 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 2: as well. 163 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: Friday night game. I like that they get Stanford early, 164 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: but the road schedule, look God, Cal at Cal at Wazoo, 165 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 1: the Friday night game at ASU at Colorado the week 166 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: before you s like, could be a bit of a sleeper. 167 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 1: But buying large, this is pretty damn workable. 168 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's fine. They missed Washington and organ as 169 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:28,839 Speaker 2: we know, and yeah, it's fine. I just the no 170 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,079 Speaker 2: bye week feels like a trip up. They have the 171 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 2: non buffer situations with UH with Stanford, Texas and Utah 172 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 2: going and going to Notre Dame. That's that's the sort 173 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 2: of the circle area that I have. But yeah, this 174 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 2: is this is a team that has very little in 175 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 2: the way of worries, and that Wazoo game is a 176 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 2: little bit interesting also because Wazoo's weakness, and we'll get 177 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 2: to it, is the secondary most likely, and USC has newer, 178 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 2: greener receivers, and Wazoo has all sorts of great weapons 179 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 2: on the outside, and USC has you know, some guys 180 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,439 Speaker 2: to work in in their own secondary. So fun matchup. 181 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 1: USC goes eleven and one in the regular season and 182 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:12,559 Speaker 1: they lose to Texas in Week three. Whoa, that's my prediction. 183 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 2: I have eleven and one losing to either Wazoo or Utah. 184 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 2: I could see both of those. But how do you 185 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 2: solve a problem like Utah if you're USC. I think 186 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 2: they've lost one two of the last three years to 187 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 2: the Utes. Kyle Whittingham, I've never numbered out that problem. 188 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 2: I've got Utah going seven and five this year, which 189 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 2: means inevitably they'll go nine and three. 190 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 1: Yep, every year they outperform every year. I've got a 191 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: loss to Texas here. I think USC makes the Pac 192 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:43,599 Speaker 1: twelve Championship. I will decide at the end of the 193 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 1: show whether or not they're going to beat Washington in 194 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: that game. 195 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 2: May I say on USC briefly, please? How does USC 196 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 2: compare in your mind to other teams that are regarded 197 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 2: in a similar way nationally? So Florida State, Clemson, Alabama, 198 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 2: Ohio State. I don't know if I'm forgetting Oklahoma. 199 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: Perhaps. I think I feel better about pretty much all 200 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: of those teams, with the exception of Clemson. And it 201 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: may have very little to do with actual talent and 202 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: more to do with the fact that USC always burns 203 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: us when we have expectations. Not just us, everybody, everybody, 204 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: not just us, right, I think that's right. 205 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:24,319 Speaker 2: I think I like USC more than Oklahoma, agreed, all 206 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 2: things equal. I like the talent that USC has on 207 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 2: defense more so than what Oklahoma has. And I like 208 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 2: I love Ronald Jones. We even mentioned that love Ronald Jones, 209 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 2: and I think I like them. I like them better 210 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 2: than Clemson as well. And I really do like Clemson, 211 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 2: So that's where I'm drawing my line. I think USC 212 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:44,439 Speaker 2: is about the third or fourth best team in the country. 213 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 1: Moving on, let's go to Colorado. Dan ten and four, Okay, 214 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: ten and four a year ago came a bit out 215 00:11:54,920 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 1: of nowhere. Mike McIntyre Coach of the Year. Colorado just 216 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: went gangbusters. It was a great season this year. We've 217 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 1: got Philip Lindsay coming back at running back very nearly 218 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 1: mydod alert very nearly, twelve hundred yards, sixteen touchdowns. Also, 219 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: Shay Fields coming back at wide out, big play guy 220 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 1: ninety six targets, nine touchdowns a year ago. I look 221 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: on defense, though, and I look at the fact that 222 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 1: so many defensive playmakers have now left the program. Jim 223 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: Levitt included, Yes, I look at sef olufou leaving in 224 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 1: the veteran presence he brought to the offense as a 225 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: bit of an issue. They've got some turnover on both lines. 226 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 1: The schedule is just kind of okay. It feels like 227 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 1: a necessary step back. A program headed in the right direction, 228 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 1: but a necessary step back by default. I'll go seven 229 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: to five. 230 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 2: Pretty good schedule, Colorado, I would add it, and I 231 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 2: think all your points are correct. They lose a ton 232 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 2: on defense. We saw the guys in the secondary get drafted. 233 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 2: How good they were for Jim Levitt up front, And yeah, 234 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 2: the safe of loofoul thing was a big deal, although 235 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 2: he seemed to like die in the third quarter of 236 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:15,599 Speaker 2: every other game, so they are used to playing with 237 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:18,559 Speaker 2: Adam Steven Montes did a good job in relief mostly 238 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 2: and schedule wise, the non conference isn't bad. They have 239 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 2: a neutral sych game against Colorado. They traveled to UCLA, 240 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 2: which Ucla has a stupid talented defense, but you know, 241 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 2: TBD on offense under Jedfish and the Rose Bowls not 242 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 2: the most difficult place to play at Oregon State at Wazoo, 243 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 2: at Arizona. 244 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: State at Utah. 245 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 2: So the fact that they get USC at home, they 246 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:43,439 Speaker 2: get Washington at home, and they miss Oregon. Who I mean, 247 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 2: Oregon's going to be okay. They're nothing special, but they 248 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 2: have the capability to look good at times. So a 249 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:53,439 Speaker 2: decent enough schedule I think. I think seven five, eight 250 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 2: and four, which honestly tie again where Colorado was oh 251 00:13:59,000 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 2: my god years ago. 252 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: I would take that in a heartbeat. 253 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 2: Seven and five coming after huge losses on one side 254 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 2: of the ball. 255 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 1: Wow. Great, cool, and you never know too. I mean, 256 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 1: there really is some skill talent that's still in Colorado. 257 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: It's not like the cover's totally bare. Oh. Steven Montez, 258 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: as you mentioned, he looked pretty good in limited action 259 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 1: last year around mid season when he had a fill in. 260 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 1: I thought he was doing a half eason job. Yeah. 261 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 2: And Mike McIntyre, you know Rocky off season four. I 262 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 2: mean not for him for much more important people, but 263 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 2: off field stuff aside, done a really good job on 264 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 2: field stuff. I'm saying seven and five were you're saying 265 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 2: seven and five, I'm gonna say one, two, three, four, five, six, 266 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 2: I'm gonna say. 267 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: It in four. Wow. Okay, Well, I hope so like Colorado, 268 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: I hope so. Yeah, Let's go to Utah. Staying in 269 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 1: the Southern Division of the PAC twelve. Utah went nine 270 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: to four a year ago. Dan Kyle Whittingham announced a 271 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: few days ago that he's going to give the keys 272 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 1: to sophomore Tyler Huntley at quarterback, which was a bit 273 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: of a surprise that he didn't announce senior Troy Williams. 274 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: They do, of course, lose Joe Williams their running back 275 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 1: who went to the forty nine ers, But it'll be 276 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: a new look now for Utah. They also have a 277 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: new offensive coordinator, Troy Taylor, who wants to run more 278 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: of an up tempo passing attack. I'm excited about their defense. 279 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: I think their defense will be able to harass and 280 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: disrupt opposing quarterbacks. But can we get that hot coal 281 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 1: sound out again that we used in our SEC preview 282 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: when we're talking about LSU, Can we get that out? 283 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: Can we talk about Kyle Whittingham and how well he'd 284 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: fare in that situation. 285 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 2: Among PAC twelve head coaches, Moro would be gone instantly. Yeah, 286 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 2: I think rich trod and Todd Graham gone instantly. Clay 287 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 2: Helton might be alright. Whittingham would be gangbuster. Yeah, he 288 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 2: wouldn't even would be okay, not great. You know who 289 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 2: I think would do pretty well? One hundred yards of 290 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 2: burning hot, scalding colds, scalding Coles, Garry Anderson. I feel 291 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 2: like there's a discipline sleeper. 292 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, you got to be disciplined to coach at Oregon State. Yeah. 293 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: Here here is Utah's schedule. They could very easily start 294 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: four to oh play North Dakota on the road at 295 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 1: BYU in the Holy War. Always a tough game, but 296 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: they could win that game San Jose State and then 297 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: at Arizona, right, but then there's a bye and then 298 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: things get weird. Stanford at USC, Arizona State at Oregon, Ucla, 299 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: Wazoo at Washington, and they finish up with Colorado. That's 300 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: a stretch, man, That is a stretch to close out 301 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: your college football season. 302 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 2: They look like, as you said, they look like a 303 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 2: seven and five team that will somehow go eight and four, 304 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 2: nine to three, just because the strength of that The 305 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 2: defensive front is very real, even without Hunter Dimmick, who 306 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 2: basically tackled everybody and owned every backfield last year, in 307 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:18,640 Speaker 2: the last couple of years. 308 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: But lolatulle or lodu leile loll lotulele. I prefer lod 309 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: to leile loll. 310 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 2: I mean, could you imagine if loll lotulele played a 311 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 2: lol volun not be fun for me so much alliteration. 312 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: But defensively, they're going to be very good. 313 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 2: A little bit worried about the secondary, but utfront they 314 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 2: are in a very dominant space. Worried about the offensive 315 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 2: line to somewhat of an extent, and quarterback is a 316 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 2: big mystery to me. Troy Taylor, as you mentioned, comes 317 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 2: over from Eastern Washington where they had a wide open 318 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 2: passing attack. And here's the thing not to discount as well, 319 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:54,400 Speaker 2: even with as much turnover as as there is on offense, 320 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 2: Utah ads Darren Carrington, who has been a dominant pack 321 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 2: twelve received when he is on the field. We saw 322 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 2: him light up Florida State and Stanford. He shows up 323 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 2: for big games. So he will be making the trip 324 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 2: back to Oddson after being kicked off the team, and 325 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 2: that's a good place to start if you are He's 326 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 2: a sophomore, right Huntley. Yeah, it's a good place to 327 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 2: start with a grad transferred star receiver available to you. So, yes, 328 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 2: I like Utah. This is just another Utah team. That's 329 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 2: a very obvious statement, but I think people understand what 330 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:28,400 Speaker 2: I'm trying to say. 331 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 1: I hope they can accomplish a little bit more of 332 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 1: an up tempo passing attack. 333 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 2: I think that'd be a neat look for Utah. Me 334 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 2: huge help to the defense big time. Well if it succeeds. 335 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,640 Speaker 1: If it succeeds, yeah, and if they're not going three 336 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 1: and out more often than they usually would, and then yes, yeah, 337 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:47,880 Speaker 1: but we'll see. Okay, Ucla they went four and eight, 338 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 1: part of the four and eight club from a year ago. 339 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:53,919 Speaker 1: You know, the club, ty not really not a grouping 340 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: of teams that people are concerned about with that record. 341 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: Josh Rosen, he was nicked up. His sophomore year did 342 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 1: not go as well as it was supposed to. He's 343 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:06,880 Speaker 1: healed up though, he's back this year. And Dan very 344 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 1: nearly a Fantasy Things selection was Josh we selected, you 345 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 1: selected Josh Rosen in his hot takes late. Yeah, Josh 346 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 1: Rosen on his third offensive coordinator, also something that we 347 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 1: very closely considered. 348 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 2: Right, Oh, absolutely, Josh Rosen's in a good place. I'm 349 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 2: the line was pretty atrocious last year, which is not 350 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 2: a good sign. No real pass catcher stepped up, not 351 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 2: a great sign. There's talent there. They couldn't run the 352 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 2: ball at all. So so Jamaba will be the guy again. 353 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:38,880 Speaker 2: I don't think last year was his fault. They were 354 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 2: just incredibly inefficient offensively, particularly or most notably after Josh 355 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 2: Rosen went down. But here is the wonderful news, Tye. 356 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 2: And this is I say this with earnest nature. This 357 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 2: defense is stupid talented. 358 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:58,399 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Tom scrap Bradley, Tom Scrapradley, Yeah, Tom scrap Bradley. 359 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 2: They lose a couple of you literal huge places along 360 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 2: the line, but they've recruited incredibly where while they're including 361 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 2: the number one overall recruit in the country Phillips. Yeah, 362 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 2: so he should at least situationally wreak havoc at times. 363 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 2: And I think they got the number one corner in 364 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 2: the country. And Darnay Holmes, who if you watched him play, 365 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 2: is sort of like fly paper like that. Well, he's 366 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:22,239 Speaker 2: stuck on you there it is. 367 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 1: That's that. 368 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 2: And they're just across the board. They've rec you know, 369 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 2: they lose pieces in the secondary, and they bring in 370 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 2: four more. Kenny Young is as good a middle linebacker 371 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:35,959 Speaker 2: perhaps the side of a Zeem Victor in the conference. There, 372 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 2: they're just they're gonna lie if the offense does anything. 373 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: Tie. 374 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is going to be a top twelve defense 375 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 2: in the country. 376 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 1: You would think that Jed Fish could build a passing 377 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 1: attack with Josh Rosen, You would think, you know, I mean, 378 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 1: he did it with Jake Rudoc at Michigan. He should 379 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:56,360 Speaker 1: be able to do it with Josh Rosen, a demonstrably 380 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:59,959 Speaker 1: better quarterback at UCLA. He's got an experienced group of 381 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 1: wide outs, Darren Andrews, Jordan Lasley. But who's good? Who's good? 382 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: Are any of them? I don't know. They're hair old, 383 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 1: experience roots, they're experienced. Okay. He's got a running game 384 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: that needs to get a lot better. And this is 385 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: something that we can't just pan over. They were terrible 386 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:23,920 Speaker 1: at running the football, real real bad. A lot returning 387 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 1: at running back, a lot returning along the offensive line. 388 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: They need to figure that out. 389 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 2: I got a grad transfer in from Miami, so they're 390 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:35,199 Speaker 2: they're trying, they're shoring up. Oh here's the other thing, Ty, 391 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 2: we got to pour out. I don't know, are you 392 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 2: drinking anything? 393 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:38,199 Speaker 1: I am not. 394 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 2: I've got water, just had some. I had some lemon 395 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 2: ginger tea And that's not a good thing to pour out. 396 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 2: But Jet Fish going to UCLA to run their offense 397 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:50,360 Speaker 2: means the end of the Michigan Ohio State photoshop War 398 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:56,120 Speaker 2: between Jet oh Smith and Wow. A lot of good 399 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 2: men were lost tie in the photoshop War of six 400 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 2: twenty sixteen, twenty fifteen, and I don't know who won 401 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,919 Speaker 2: that war. But I know who lost that war, and 402 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 2: that was America. It was an embarrassment for everybody. 403 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:13,120 Speaker 1: We've got two teams left in the Pac twelve seuth, 404 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 1: both of the Arizona schools. Dan, run me through your 405 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 1: favorite Arizona school. 406 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 2: I guess Arizona State. The quarterback situation is a little 407 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 2: bit more settled. Defensively, they've got to be better and healthier. 408 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 2: They bring back I think the defense. Yeah, the defense 409 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 2: brings back a good amount of guys. They just struggled 410 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 2: last year. So that's one of the experience. Is it good, 411 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 2: That's one of those questions. But Arizona State as playmakers. 412 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 2: They have one of the best receivers in the conference 413 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 2: in Nikhil Harry. He is a big body and catches 414 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 2: a lot, has a very large catching radius. And if 415 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,439 Speaker 2: they can figure out a quarterback, I don't know, if 416 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 2: they haven't named a quarterback at the time of this recording, 417 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 2: it's gonna be Blake Barnett or Manny Wilkins. 418 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 1: Right now, it looks more like Manny Wilkins. 419 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 2: Okay, So he looks to be the option, a more 420 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 2: dual threat option perhaps for ASU. So I'm going to 421 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 2: go with that. They have a new defensive coordinator and 422 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 2: Phil Bennett who comes over from Baylor, new offensive coordinator 423 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 2: comes over from Alabama, and Billy Napier at least a 424 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 2: co offensive coordinator. So talent wise, I think Arizona State 425 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 2: is in a better place quarterback place, In terms of 426 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 2: passing the ball down field, I think they're in a 427 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:31,120 Speaker 2: better place. And line play, especially on defense, certainly isn't 428 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 2: a better place. So I am with ASU. The schedule 429 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:37,120 Speaker 2: doesn't seem terrible. There's another shootout at Texas Tech. Last 430 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:42,400 Speaker 2: year was in Tempe, but the schedule seems all right enough. 431 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 2: It just seems mixed to me. So ASU has nothing 432 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 2: to blame whatever happens in twenty seventeen. They have nothing 433 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 2: to blame except just on themselves. 434 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 1: I think the overriding theme for ASU is that there's 435 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,640 Speaker 1: a ton of potential on that team and it's all 436 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,479 Speaker 1: very young. They were so beat up last year. Beat up. 437 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 1: Twenty seventeen is not going to be the year they 438 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 1: quote unquote turn it around. They might build for twenty 439 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 1: eighteen this season. I think that's Lane Kiffin, well for 440 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,679 Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin, for Chim Kelly. Who knows where the rumors 441 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 1: take US, Yeah, but I don't think this is their 442 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 1: year to be world beaters. But I like the talent. 443 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: There is talent there which is exciting. The other school 444 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 1: in the Pac Twell South would be Arizona Dan. They 445 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 1: went three to nine last year. I like Nick Wilson 446 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 1: at running back. I like their running game. I don't 447 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,640 Speaker 1: like anything in their defensive front seven because they lose 448 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 1: a ton and I am not feeling very optimistic about 449 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 1: the direction of this program now under Rich Rodriguez, I 450 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 1: really liked and I think I still like the higher 451 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:52,199 Speaker 1: of Marceliates to sort of overhaul the defense after they 452 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 1: parted ways with Jeff Castile. 453 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 2: Who of course ran his three three five Marcelliates running 454 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 2: more of a nickel four two five type look a 455 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 2: hybrid type defense. It was a mess last year, it 456 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,880 Speaker 2: really was, and getting talented Tucson has been an issue. 457 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,400 Speaker 2: Figuring out identity on both sides of the ball has 458 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 2: been an issue. And when you look at the backfield 459 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 2: combinations that they have available to them, so that would 460 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:20,679 Speaker 2: be either Brandon Dawkins or Khalil Tait or the thirty 461 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 2: seven year old minor league baseball player who has come 462 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:27,199 Speaker 2: in any combination of at least those first two guys 463 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 2: and Nick Wilson. I don't know if you remember JJ 464 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 2: Taylor from last year. Yeah, of course played, and yeah 465 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 2: in Nick Wilson instead, little guy and is so quick, 466 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 2: the tiny little burst that he has, he gets from 467 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 2: the backfield to the second level and what he feels 468 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 2: like like what's the name of the Dalson warping in 469 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 2: Street Fighter too, He's just warping to the second level 470 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,639 Speaker 2: and he got beat up because he is sort of tiny. 471 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 2: But when he is operating, he is one of the 472 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,159 Speaker 2: more fun players to watch in this conference. But the 473 00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:00,399 Speaker 2: problem is literally everything else. They feel like team like 474 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 2: they should be running like the veer or the triple 475 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:06,400 Speaker 2: option or something and just steer into you a unique look, 476 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:10,120 Speaker 2: and I just it's it's gonna be another long year. 477 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 1: I fear in Tucson. Not optimistic in Tucson. No, ok 478 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 1: maybe they get to four or five wins. I don't know, Dann. 479 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 1: Let's go North. Okay, are you seeing a loss on 480 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 1: the Husky schedule this year? Washington? You didn't last year? 481 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 1: Do I see a loss? Yeah? 482 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 2: Probably a loss. I'm not sure I do really well 483 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:36,120 Speaker 2: listen schedule wise, No, sc right during the regular season. Right, 484 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 2: who else do they miss in the South? I think 485 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,879 Speaker 2: maybe one of the Arizona. Yeah, they don't play Arizona. Okay, 486 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 2: that's fine. 487 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 1: Talk about a great, great success story from last year. 488 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,439 Speaker 1: They won eleven and one in the regular season. They 489 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:51,119 Speaker 1: lost at home to usc but they still made the 490 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:55,160 Speaker 1: Pac twelve championship game. They clobbered Colorado by thirty one, 491 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 1: won the conference. Then they go on they play Alabama 492 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 1: and the College Football Playoff. They lost by seventeen. But 493 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 1: as a whole fair to say Washington was still underrated 494 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: in that they weren't taken seriously the whole way through. 495 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 1: We got a couple weeks out from the playoff and 496 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,120 Speaker 1: people at least here on the East Coast were trying 497 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: to find wayte to doubt Washington. 498 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,399 Speaker 2: And not their fault either. Not there if everybody they 499 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 2: played had bad years, so they put seventy on everybody. 500 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,439 Speaker 1: Maybe that's just my team. Now as we turned the 501 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 1: calendar to twenty seventeen, Look, there is virtually no reason 502 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 1: to doubt this offense. Everybody is back outside John Ross. 503 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 2: They did struggle once the talent level got higher. On defense, 504 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 2: they did not throw the ball at all well against Colorado, 505 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 2: which did certainly had NFL talent in the secondary. They 506 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 2: didn't do all that much against USC, and they the 507 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 2: offense struggled a ton upfront, especially against Alabama, which means 508 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,439 Speaker 2: they can go eleven and one again, he's without a 509 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 2: doubt easily. But I don't know that they've gotten so 510 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:07,160 Speaker 2: much better on offense that they can they can overcome 511 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 2: when they have to play Ohio State or Clemson or 512 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:13,160 Speaker 2: Florida State or even USC in the Pac twelve Championship 513 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,239 Speaker 2: game like that, to me is still very much an 514 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,679 Speaker 2: issue that it's just going to take a little bit 515 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 2: more time to address. But here's the good news. Tie, 516 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 2: here's the outstanding news. For as glitchy as the numbers 517 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 2: that Jake Browning put up, certainly with the help of 518 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 2: John Ross, but Jake Browning is one of the best 519 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 2: five quarterbacks in the country, if not higher. This team 520 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 2: was led by its defense and that's what came to 521 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 2: play against everybody, and the fact that they do lose 522 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 2: a ton of key pees in the secondary is concerning. 523 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 2: But Taylor rap should step right in at safety and 524 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 2: be outstanding. We saw him come on late. They get 525 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 2: Azee Victor back who decided to come back after injury, 526 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 2: and they have I think, without a doubt, the best 527 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 2: inside defensive line duo in the conference through the Yeah, yeah, 528 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 2: vide Vea and Greg Gaines are as good a duo 529 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 2: as there is. So they're in a fantastic place. They 530 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 2: need to sort of figure out pass rushers. But I 531 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 2: love Pete is it Quitkowski something like that, the defensive 532 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 2: coordinator who followed Chris Peterson from Boise. Yeah, it's outside 533 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 2: of you know, the UCLA game and traveling to Stanford. 534 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 2: Their road schedule is nothing because even going to Stanford, 535 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 2: that's not a difficult place to play. It's not a 536 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 2: hornet's nest as you like to say. So schedule is wonderful. 537 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 1: Offense is loaded, front seven is loaded. Secondary has has 538 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 1: some questions, a lot to replace back there. But yeah, 539 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 1: the strength is a schedule. You got I think only 540 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 1: one losable game at Stanford. 541 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 2: Ty stop me. When we get to a team you're 542 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 2: positive we'll score twenty points against Washington Okay, yep, at Rutgers, Montana, 543 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 2: Fresno State at Colorado, Okay, just waiting there, at Oregon State, 544 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 2: cal No, Okay, at Arizona State UCLA. 545 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 1: Maybe, Okay, maybe, so. 546 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 2: It took to Halloween to get to maybe a team 547 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 2: scoring twenty points. 548 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, it's. 549 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 2: A good schedule again at Stanford, Utah Wazoo. So yeah, 550 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 2: it's a very good schedule. I am gonna go twelve 551 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 2: and ohero regular season. I don't know what happens when 552 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 2: they play USC in the Pac twelve championship game. I'm 553 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 2: inclined to go Washington at first glance, and I think 554 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 2: maybe I'll stick with that. I could be swayed from 555 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 2: that position, but I'm pretty high in this team. I 556 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 2: like the fact that they have so much coming back 557 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 2: on offense, and I still feel really good about about 558 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 2: their defense. With the schedule that they've got before them, 559 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 2: I don't feel like there are a whole lot of 560 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 2: teams in there that can burn them through the air. 561 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 2: I feel have them losing to either UCLA or on 562 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:47,959 Speaker 2: the road against Stanford. 563 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 1: Yep, yep, I could see that. No USC on there though, 564 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 1: That's that's a big thing. I'm high on Washington right now, 565 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 1: one of my four playoff teams. Cool, let's go to Stanford. 566 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 1: Talk to me about Stanley. Actually, you know what, so 567 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 1: this show again go on up went it's it's Sunday morning. 568 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 1: Oh my god, what a weekend. But there's still time 569 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 1: left before work. Stanford will be one to know by 570 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 1: the time people hear this. So off off the cuff. 571 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 1: This is not prescripted. God, I want them to lose. 572 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 1: Now off the cuff. Yeah, let's record record a game recap? Okay, sure, sure? 573 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 1: Games in Australia. Three two Dan? You know on Saturday 574 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 1: night or should I say Sunday morning? Down under? M 575 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: H Stanford? Uh thirty eight? Rice ten Dan, really nice 576 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 1: Stanford performance. 577 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 2: I reckon It was a croc plotting down on that gest. 578 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 1: Do they say reckon in Australia? I think so? I know. 579 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 1: I know they call it Australia. I know that from 580 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: the Foster's commercials when they said Australian for beer, right, 581 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 1: But I'm terrible at doing accents, so I'm not gonna try. 582 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 2: I think it's you. You replace the letter I with 583 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 2: oh I. Oh that's where they're like, you call the 584 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 2: add a noife. 585 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 1: Humhmm. Yeah. I'm very bad at impressions. Can I be 586 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 1: real with you for a second here, please, This is 587 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 1: a real place, tie for real people. It's a little 588 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 1: embarrassing to emit this before tens of thousands of people, 589 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 1: But I believe that your raging, perpetual throbbing Stanford boner 590 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 1: is officially contagious. How you getting a whiff? I don't 591 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 1: know how I caught it from you? Oh? Man? I 592 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 1: can you catch it from an Can you catch it 593 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 1: from a handshake? Ty? You can catch it from a handy? Absolutely? 594 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 1: No, no handshake? Different? Oh different, different thing? Yeah, it flies, 595 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 1: tie it flies, man. I am in on the Cardinal 596 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 1: this year. I am all in. What has you lathered up? 597 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 1: First off? I love the fact that they've got an identity. Okay, 598 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 1: they're gonna beat you up. They're gonna pound it down 599 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 1: your throat. We're gonna set up play action and they're 600 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 1: just gonna play defense, and they're gonna find a way 601 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 1: to win nine or ten games. I love their defense 602 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 1: this year. They're gonna be so difficult to move the 603 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 1: football against up front. I'm a little worried, but they're 604 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 1: tough to move the football against in the back seven 605 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 1: at a minimum. 606 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is all reasonable. I'm myself. I'm very high 607 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 2: on Stanford. It mostly has to do with the defense. 608 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 2: I think offensively, they'll be fine, but they may have 609 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 2: the best linebacking corps in the conference unless you really 610 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 2: believe in USC, and that's fine too, I'll accept that answer. 611 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 2: Their secondary looks incredible. The offensive line is ridiculously deep, 612 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 2: I know, a shocker to everybody. Bryce Love, as you mentioned, 613 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 2: should be very good. You won't be Christian McCaffrey, but 614 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 2: very few people are. If it's not Keller christ who's 615 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 2: coming back from an injury, it'll be one of two 616 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 2: blue chips waiting in the wings. The red shirt freshman's 617 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 2: name is kJ Costello, who I know a lot of 618 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 2: people are big on. They've got good receiving targets. They've 619 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 2: bought like seven to five star tight ends battling it out. 620 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 2: It feels like a very Stanford year. September is tough, 621 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 2: and that's just what Stanford does. They lose a game 622 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 2: in September and that's fine. They have USC on the road. 623 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 2: Excuse me, in week two after the austral Well, I 624 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 2: guess it's like two weeks after the Australia trip. Yeah, 625 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,239 Speaker 2: they have UCLA a couple of weeks later at San 626 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 2: Diego State. I am not up to date on the Aztecs. 627 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 2: I know don l Pumfrees gone. I also know that 628 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 2: they had, for the most part, an excellent defense last year. 629 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,279 Speaker 2: They're not They're probably not going to lose to San 630 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:24,399 Speaker 2: Diego State, but it's on the road. 631 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 1: It's in San Diego. 632 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 2: Who knows, it's a it's a garbage stadium, so that 633 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 2: could affect things. They Other than that, they're pack twelve 634 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,960 Speaker 2: schedule pretty great. They've Oregon at home, they have Washington 635 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,840 Speaker 2: at home, they have calum the big game at home, 636 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 2: they travel to Utah, and they finish with Notre Dame 637 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,800 Speaker 2: at home. We will get to but I mean having 638 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 2: two of the three best teams on their schedule at home. 639 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:50,880 Speaker 1: Fine, great. I feel ten and two. I or the 640 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:54,360 Speaker 1: losses USC week two. If you're going to get Stanford, 641 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,280 Speaker 1: get them early. I think a week two loss against 642 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 1: USC at USC and then I think a against Washington 643 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:05,359 Speaker 1: in a war, a close game, a war. I feel 644 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:09,400 Speaker 1: better about what Washington has in terms of veteran leadership 645 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 1: on their offense to get the job done. Okay, then 646 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 1: I do Stanford, but I think that's a war of 647 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 1: a game ten and two, ten and two regular season. 648 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 2: Okay, now that'll be the the Washington offense against the 649 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,879 Speaker 2: Stanford defense will have to be a better performance from 650 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 2: the Stanford defense this year. But there are a ton 651 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:29,000 Speaker 2: of upperclassmen on this Stanford defense, so it should be fun. 652 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:33,759 Speaker 1: Ten and two for me. Yeah, Wazoo, Dan, talk to 653 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 1: me about Wazoo. 654 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 2: Okay, Wazoo is the wild card team once again, and 655 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 2: that's you know, that's Mike Leach's destiny is to keep 656 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,439 Speaker 2: producing the ultimate wild card. Although this Mike Leach team 657 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 2: almost feels even Leachier than normal. They could run the 658 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:53,240 Speaker 2: ball like really well for an air raid team short 659 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,279 Speaker 2: of what West Virginia has done the past couple of years, 660 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,320 Speaker 2: and somewhat with with Oklahoma State. So here's my feeling 661 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,759 Speaker 2: about Wazoo. Luke Fawk somehow still in college. Yeah, God 662 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 2: bless Van Wilder. Don't love the offensive line, love the 663 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,719 Speaker 2: trio of running backs. They lose a couple of big 664 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 2: wide receivers, but they throw it to like seventy three 665 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,480 Speaker 2: dudes in a year, so that's not something I'm terribly 666 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 2: concerned about. Defensively, guess what they have, Tye, Please try 667 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 2: to guess. 668 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,879 Speaker 1: They've got a really good front seven and a really 669 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 1: questionable secondary. I'm going to stop you right there. They've 670 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 1: got a dude. Oh oh oh, who got who do 671 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:30,360 Speaker 1: we got? Who do we got? Pay it with me? 672 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:36,400 Speaker 1: Ty Hercules Mataafa Yeah him. So he is a complete terror. 673 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,960 Speaker 2: He rushes the quarterback extraordinarily well in that sort of 674 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 2: rush and outside linebacker hybrid role that he plays in 675 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,880 Speaker 2: that Alex Grinch defense. He is so fun to watch 676 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 2: and blocking him is it's more of a suggestion than 677 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 2: it is a completion, and he is. 678 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 1: He is that good. 679 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:59,360 Speaker 2: So Washington State, even with deficiencies in the back, like 680 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:03,680 Speaker 2: we mentioned, they terrorize backfields. They produce negative plays. Our 681 00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:05,920 Speaker 2: friend Bill Connolly was writing about this in his preview, 682 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 2: and if you are going to give up big plays, 683 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,879 Speaker 2: it's probably wise to be able to generate negative plays 684 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 2: at the same time to balance things out and set 685 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:18,360 Speaker 2: yourself up for turnovers. In Washington State, for the most part, 686 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,759 Speaker 2: they struggled against the better teams on their schedule, but 687 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:24,279 Speaker 2: they took advantage of bad and struggling teams. I will 688 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,640 Speaker 2: the Oregon game almost hurt more than it did watching 689 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 2: Oregon against Washington and Washington score seventy because this is 690 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,640 Speaker 2: Wazoo and I am a dumb, condescending Oregon fan. But 691 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,000 Speaker 2: my god, were they good in that game? So I 692 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:40,080 Speaker 2: like Wazoo. I have concerns that will lead to losses, 693 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,879 Speaker 2: but they're gonna be real fun again this year. Luke 694 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 2: Fwawk is like, I don't know, somewhere over four thousand 695 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,360 Speaker 2: yards away from being a top five yardage quarterback in 696 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 2: college football ever, so good for him. 697 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 1: He could challenge five thousand yards this year. Who it's 698 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,760 Speaker 1: within reach. They return a lot, They return a lot, 699 00:37:57,840 --> 00:37:59,880 Speaker 1: and I don't know if you mentioned it. If you, 700 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 1: I apologize, I'm going to reiterate. Their front seven is 701 00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 1: surprisingly good and Mike Leach does this thing where he 702 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,640 Speaker 1: tries to get his defenses. They give up yards right, 703 00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,239 Speaker 1: and the secondary this year, of course, is questionable, but 704 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,400 Speaker 1: they try to create negative plays and forced turnovers, and 705 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,880 Speaker 1: that's fun to watch as a fan. It's fun to 706 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,960 Speaker 1: watch because if they're making plays, they're big ones. So 707 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 1: I'm excited about them. I'm feeling seven five, eight and 708 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,600 Speaker 1: four somewhere in that range. I'm I'm gonna go more 709 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,880 Speaker 1: eight and four than seven and five, though, Yeah, I 710 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:35,480 Speaker 1: think that's right. I'm good with that. Oregon State, Yeah, 711 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:39,879 Speaker 1: Oregon State went five and seven a year ago. I 712 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 1: like their running back situation this year. I don't like 713 00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:47,480 Speaker 1: their rush defense this year. I also don't like their schedule, 714 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:51,799 Speaker 1: which is extremely challenging. Otherwise though, I like what Gary 715 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 1: Anderson's doing. I think he is positioning the Beavers quite 716 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,640 Speaker 1: well for the future. It's just gonna be a bit 717 00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:58,280 Speaker 1: of a rebuilt. 718 00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,520 Speaker 2: It's an impossible schedule, and you're right. Last year teams 719 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,440 Speaker 2: ran through Oregon's defensive line like they were a not 720 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,759 Speaker 2: even below average. They were a very poor red rover team. 721 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,080 Speaker 2: They were just they were not good at putting up 722 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:13,840 Speaker 2: the wall. Oregon State the talent level has certainly increased. 723 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,840 Speaker 2: Their backfield is totally underrated. They have probably one of 724 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,239 Speaker 2: the best two or three backfields and the conference. Ryan 725 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,880 Speaker 2: Knall is very good. Thomas Tyner, who you'll remember was 726 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,520 Speaker 2: a starter at Oregon a couple of years ago, retired, 727 00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,600 Speaker 2: is back. They have I think a TCU transfer now there, 728 00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,080 Speaker 2: so they should be able to move the ball if 729 00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,680 Speaker 2: the offensive line improves. Jake Luton is the quarterback. He 730 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,360 Speaker 2: was at Idaho and then went to a JC and 731 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:40,080 Speaker 2: so he is sort of an unknown quantity. But they 732 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:44,480 Speaker 2: should incrementally improve. But yeah, as you were sort of 733 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,400 Speaker 2: alluding to, might not reflect on the final record. I 734 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:48,920 Speaker 2: don't think they're making a bowl game this year. 735 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,200 Speaker 1: Also, did you know that Jake Luton is six'? Seven 736 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,920 Speaker 1: is that? True that is one hundred percent. True, finally 737 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:58,480 Speaker 1: the new Brock osweiler on The west coast love. It. 738 00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:03,160 Speaker 1: YEAH i Like Oregon state for the. Future tough schedule 739 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:07,160 Speaker 1: though this. Year. Yeah also in The pac Twelve, north 740 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,480 Speaker 1: let's go To. Cal cal's got a new. Coach they 741 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:13,399 Speaker 1: went five and seven a year. Ago they Hired Justin 742 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:18,200 Speaker 1: wilcox away From. Wisconsin, right he was their defensive. Coordinator, 743 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,640 Speaker 1: yep he went out and he Hired Bo, baldwin who 744 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:25,560 Speaker 1: was a NOTED fcs coach At Eastern. Washington, right that's. True. 745 00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:31,719 Speaker 1: Yep the red field another situation where, DEFENSIVELY i think 746 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:35,960 Speaker 1: you got to ask. Questions their road schedule is extremely. 747 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:40,200 Speaker 1: Difficult they're just young across the. Board on, offense they've 748 00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,680 Speaker 1: got an entirely new offensive. Line this is not going 749 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,399 Speaker 1: to Be cal's, year which gives me all the more 750 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:51,680 Speaker 1: reason to pick my. Dude, yeah my dude From, cal 751 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:57,080 Speaker 1: Gimme Demetrius Robertson dan Former Notre dame, commit hemmed and hawed, 752 00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,520 Speaker 1: around eventually decided that he was going to go To. 753 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:03,600 Speaker 1: Cal not a bad place to. Be he had ninety, 754 00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:09,040 Speaker 1: targets seven hundred and sixty seven yards and seven touchdowns 755 00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:11,640 Speaker 1: a year. AGO i think he factors in in a 756 00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:16,359 Speaker 1: big way on their. OFFENSE i just agree just Because 757 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,840 Speaker 1: i'm worried about quarterback for The Cal faris and that 758 00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:20,320 Speaker 1: to us to throw him the ball. 759 00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:24,279 Speaker 2: Tie i'm a little bit worried about a lot of 760 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,880 Speaker 2: things With cal's, offense BUT i think it'll eventually be all. 761 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:31,239 Speaker 2: Right there's some talent. THERE i also Like Melkie's stovall and, defensively, 762 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,759 Speaker 2: yes they're not where they were a couple of years 763 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 2: ago in terms of it being a total dearth of. 764 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,879 Speaker 2: Talent the talent level certainly has. Increased it's not where 765 00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,400 Speaker 2: it needs to be to start competing week, out weekend 766 00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:43,560 Speaker 2: and week out in THE pac Twelve. 767 00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:45,680 Speaker 1: North but The tim De ruter hire is very. 768 00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:49,040 Speaker 2: Nice he comes over former head, Coach Bo, baldwin former head, 769 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:52,360 Speaker 2: coach SO i like what appears to be the stability 770 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,479 Speaker 2: and foundation for the. FUTURE i like the staff a whole. 771 00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,880 Speaker 2: Lot Steve greatwood who was the long long Time oregon 772 00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,759 Speaker 2: offensive line, coach takes over FOR, cal and you, know 773 00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,919 Speaker 2: is very good at identifying talent that isn't necessarily blue 774 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:07,080 Speaker 2: chip coming out of high school but develops into high level. 775 00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,240 Speaker 2: Players SO i think they did a really good job 776 00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,560 Speaker 2: in terms of pointing the program in the right. Direction 777 00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,920 Speaker 2: but this, year first of, all weird non conference. Schedule, Time, 778 00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:19,960 Speaker 2: yeah At North, carolina then they Host Ole miss and 779 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,320 Speaker 2: that's a week BEFORE, usc and then they go To 780 00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:25,440 Speaker 2: oregon and To Washington Washington state back at, Home so 781 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:30,480 Speaker 2: it's a Rough september and through Mid. OCTOBER i, guess 782 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:34,040 Speaker 2: and you, know what what we can get from THIS 783 00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,000 Speaker 2: cal season because it's probably not going to make a bowl, 784 00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,359 Speaker 2: Game but what we can get is what they look 785 00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,680 Speaker 2: like near the end of the, year and if there's 786 00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,319 Speaker 2: a spark of, this if there's a, oh a glimmer of, 787 00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,799 Speaker 2: that that is what we can take. AWAY i think 788 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:50,680 Speaker 2: they're recruiting pretty well all things. Considered So i'm just 789 00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:54,920 Speaker 2: in Late October, november let's see what potential looks like FOR. 790 00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:58,640 Speaker 2: Cal and if there's some optimism there because of what 791 00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:00,359 Speaker 2: happens later on in the, season that's. 792 00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,920 Speaker 1: Great that's. Why that's why you get a good, Dude Demetrius. 793 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,480 Speaker 1: Robertson you got to give him something to look forward. 794 00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,040 Speaker 1: To this is the he was the guy that was 795 00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,319 Speaker 1: he the guy That Brian kelly. Like they drove the 796 00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:13,600 Speaker 1: bus all day down To. Georgia, yep well it almost. 797 00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,360 Speaker 1: Worked it almost. Worked it was a noble. EFFORT a 798 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,239 Speaker 1: lot of it was fun on social, media but he 799 00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,719 Speaker 1: ultimately decided to go to. Call so we wish. Him 800 00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,520 Speaker 1: whill had a good season last year and he is 801 00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:25,760 Speaker 1: he is MY pac twelve. 802 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,640 Speaker 2: Dude good food At. Berkeley by the, way have you 803 00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:28,960 Speaker 2: been To? 804 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:29,600 Speaker 1: Berkeley never? 805 00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:33,440 Speaker 2: Been no Man chinese? Food you can eat Good mexican 806 00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:35,080 Speaker 2: bake Sale betty for great fried. 807 00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:38,919 Speaker 1: Chicken it's good. Food college. Town we got one team 808 00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,640 Speaker 1: left here in the Package. North where is MY i 809 00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:47,920 Speaker 1: do have a? Sound, oh oh my. God The Oregon, Ducks, 810 00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:51,680 Speaker 1: dan part of the four and eight. Club, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome. 811 00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:53,719 Speaker 1: BILL i don't think people look at it as a. 812 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:57,080 Speaker 1: Club AND i will congratulate you, though for being the 813 00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:01,640 Speaker 1: first person to tie Together oregon being The ducks and 814 00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:02,399 Speaker 1: the video Game. 815 00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:05,360 Speaker 2: Duck we've had that sound for three, Years, DAN i 816 00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:11,120 Speaker 2: know for three. Years i'm still congratulating, You willie taggered 817 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,840 Speaker 2: after going four and. Eight getting rid Of Mark helfrich also, 818 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,839 Speaker 2: important though not as. Flashy we talked about it when 819 00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:20,959 Speaker 2: we Mentioned, colorado but they did Bring Jim levitt over 820 00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:25,399 Speaker 2: to coach their. Defense he will have his work cut 821 00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:27,759 Speaker 2: out for, Him, dan because the defense was pretty damn 822 00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,399 Speaker 2: bad last. Year, so big, PICTURE i Think oregon's doing 823 00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:34,000 Speaker 2: very very good things and what they hired and what 824 00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:37,040 Speaker 2: they are doing schematically with their offense and, defense and 825 00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:40,200 Speaker 2: their return a promising young quarterback And Justin. Herbert the 826 00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,920 Speaker 2: hires were. Great they're recruiting obviously very. WELL i think 827 00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:46,240 Speaker 2: they're in the top, ten top, five. Whatever looking. Forward 828 00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:48,920 Speaker 2: but we're talking about this, season and here's what we 829 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,880 Speaker 2: know About oregon this. Season Justin herbert should be pretty. 830 00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,480 Speaker 2: Good he was playing behind a very experienced and what 831 00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,200 Speaker 2: should be maybe the strength of the. Offense in the offensive, 832 00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:00,560 Speaker 2: line they return four or five, starters Including Ryl crosby 833 00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:02,920 Speaker 2: who's very good at left. Tackle they have a very 834 00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,160 Speaker 2: good running back In Royce freeman who could Set oregon, 835 00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:08,480 Speaker 2: records and a couple really good guys behind. Him their 836 00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:11,080 Speaker 2: week at receiver and that was made weaker By Darren 837 00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,400 Speaker 2: carrington being kicked off the, team so they will be 838 00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,600 Speaker 2: working in a lot of. Youth the number one receiver 839 00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,000 Speaker 2: will probably be looks Like Dylan, mitchell who was a 840 00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,560 Speaker 2: big promising kid From tennessee a couple of years. Ago 841 00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:25,000 Speaker 2: the problem is they have the capability of being very 842 00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,960 Speaker 2: good on offense because of those. Players they really, do 843 00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,680 Speaker 2: and if you look at the efficiency, numbers it tells 844 00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:32,839 Speaker 2: a story of they should be able to score forty 845 00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:36,279 Speaker 2: plus points per. Game the problem is you take the 846 00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:38,520 Speaker 2: good with the. Bat as we talked about on OUR 847 00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:42,840 Speaker 2: sec preview With, arkansas this defense is at least a 848 00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:47,480 Speaker 2: year away from being respectable because talent, wise it's not. 849 00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,960 Speaker 2: There they infuse the defensive line with A clemson transfer 850 00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:52,880 Speaker 2: In Scott. PAGANO i, THINK i know they got ANOTHER 851 00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:56,160 Speaker 2: jc guy in recently who had been committed To missouri last. 852 00:45:56,200 --> 00:46:01,640 Speaker 2: Minute but they have a really good linebacker and the 853 00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:04,680 Speaker 2: secondary is gonna be pretty rough. Again they're gonna try 854 00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:08,200 Speaker 2: to work in some younger, guys but playing Against Jake, 855 00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:11,640 Speaker 2: browning playing Against Josh, ROSEN i think they miss usc 856 00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:16,600 Speaker 2: but even still they're gonna give up. Points so if 857 00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:18,719 Speaker 2: they Are bowl, eligible WHICH i think they should. BE 858 00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,120 Speaker 2: i think they're in like six and, six seven and five. Range, 859 00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:25,840 Speaker 2: yeah if they get to that, point you'll be hearing 860 00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:30,520 Speaker 2: a lot OF i barely survived that. Call, YEAH i 861 00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,520 Speaker 2: sort of got. Akil that's any good. POINT i can't 862 00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:35,040 Speaker 2: do it. Anymore are You are you going to be 863 00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:35,920 Speaker 2: staying up for these late? 864 00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:37,680 Speaker 1: Games? Yeah, PROBABLY i mean it. 865 00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:39,640 Speaker 2: DEPENDS i didn't stay up for the second half of 866 00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:41,239 Speaker 2: The cow game last, year And i'm kind of GLAD i. 867 00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:43,400 Speaker 2: Didn't but it's it's gonna be forty nine to forty 868 00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:46,719 Speaker 2: five's one way or the. Other, Right it just it's 869 00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:50,040 Speaker 2: gonna be a very big twelve year For. Oregon you 870 00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,640 Speaker 2: Got Royce freeman to. Watch though he's exciting Have Royce. 871 00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:56,879 Speaker 2: Freeman there's some some fron freshmen coming in and hopefully 872 00:46:56,920 --> 00:47:02,399 Speaker 2: defensively they at least show off show up in three four, 873 00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:04,719 Speaker 2: games they're, like, oh they just forced a three and. 874 00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:09,360 Speaker 1: Out let's cherish. This let's make sure we never. FORGET 875 00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:12,919 Speaker 1: i kicked around Calling Charles nelson either the full or Half. 876 00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:16,160 Speaker 1: Nelson he's a maddening, player by the, way so maybe just. 877 00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:18,799 Speaker 1: Half then he's a player that if he were On Notre. 878 00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:23,160 Speaker 2: Dame outside Of Notre dame, fans people would be, like, 879 00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:26,600 Speaker 2: oh he's pretty. Fun he played on, defense. Offense they 880 00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:28,759 Speaker 2: use him in a variety of. Ways but if you 881 00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,919 Speaker 2: watch Every oregon game With Charles, nelson you're, like will 882 00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:33,000 Speaker 2: you please just stop dropping? 883 00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:34,759 Speaker 1: Pons? Yeah please, please please? 884 00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,839 Speaker 2: Please and, so, yeah he's sort of, madding but when 885 00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:39,359 Speaker 2: he is, on he is he is really. 886 00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:43,239 Speaker 1: Fun he's. GOOD i also Workshopped Tony Brooks james As 887 00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:46,520 Speaker 1: TONY bj But i'm deciding against that. ONE a little 888 00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:51,440 Speaker 1: two mobster just not not. Suitable Tony brooks. Flames, oh 889 00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:53,399 Speaker 1: he averaged like seven or eight yards per carry last. 890 00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:54,560 Speaker 1: YEAR i do like. IT i do like. 891 00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:57,560 Speaker 2: Him he's built in sort of the More Michael, James 892 00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:01,440 Speaker 2: Kenyon barner. Mold, okay so we're feeling six and, six 893 00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:01,879 Speaker 2: seven and. 894 00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:03,960 Speaker 1: Five will he? TECH i think. So, yeah it'll be 895 00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:06,440 Speaker 1: a very big twelve year For. Oregon one of the 896 00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:10,120 Speaker 1: fantasy things that we did not draft Is Willie taggart's 897 00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:14,040 Speaker 1: connection To Jim harball and The harbor. Fam the fact 898 00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:17,120 Speaker 1: that he's kind of a de Facto. Harrball he played 899 00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:21,040 Speaker 1: At Western kentucky Under Jack. Harball for four years he 900 00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:23,359 Speaker 1: was a. Starter that's the kind of thing where If 901 00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:26,080 Speaker 1: oregon puts a few wins, together or if it does 902 00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:29,440 Speaker 1: something interesting, that my, friends is a college game day 903 00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:31,040 Speaker 1: feature By Tom ornaldy waiting to. 904 00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:35,480 Speaker 2: Happen so their schedule starts, out it's fine because they 905 00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:39,160 Speaker 2: It's Southern Utah nebraska at. Home excuse, Me nebraska and 906 00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:41,960 Speaker 2: the god tenorly. 907 00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:42,520 Speaker 1: That's, right that's. 908 00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:45,880 Speaker 2: Right they go To, woming which is going to be, 909 00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:49,440 Speaker 2: tricky But wyomi's defense isn't. Great they go To Arizona, 910 00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,040 Speaker 2: state which is probably they're probably going to be better 911 00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:53,760 Speaker 2: than they were than they were last year When oregon 912 00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,719 Speaker 2: beat them Cal Washington state at. Home so before That 913 00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:58,759 Speaker 2: Washington state, game sure they could be five and oh 914 00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:02,800 Speaker 2: and get a game day segment before comp it's gonna. 915 00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:04,040 Speaker 1: Happen, Absolutely. 916 00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:09,719 Speaker 2: Yeah back half of the, schedule especially sort Of october 917 00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:12,960 Speaker 2: Early november At stanford AT ucla and That's Washington state 918 00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:17,120 Speaker 2: before Then utah At. Washington that's a tough. Stretch that, 919 00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:21,560 Speaker 2: is if they can, go if they can go two 920 00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:26,600 Speaker 2: and three in that five game, stretch that's. Gravy that's complete. 921 00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:30,480 Speaker 2: Gravy so, yeah it'll be it's a transition reboot. 922 00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:34,480 Speaker 1: Year that does. It for THE pac, Twelve, dan it. 923 00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:37,160 Speaker 2: Does so who is winning THE pac? Twelve washington obviously 924 00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,240 Speaker 2: if you have them to the, PLAYOFF. 925 00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:43,000 Speaker 1: I am gonna Go washington Over washington twelve and zero 926 00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:47,600 Speaker 1: regular season undefeated obviously in THE pac. Twelve i'm gonna 927 00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,839 Speaker 1: GO usc eleven to, one but undefeated in THE pac. 928 00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:53,960 Speaker 1: Twelve And i'm gonna Go washington OVER usc in THE 929 00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:55,160 Speaker 1: pac twelve championship. 930 00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,400 Speaker 2: Game, wait, so oh, yeah you have them losing To. 931 00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:01,280 Speaker 2: Texas that's, RIGHT, Usc that's. Right blow theory in. Effect 932 00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:04,399 Speaker 2: Tom herman early. On, yep that's What i'm, Thinking new 933 00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:10,240 Speaker 2: luck That texas hype coming in, strong coming in double hype, 934 00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:13,319 Speaker 2: game double hype. Game all, Right and so let's see 935 00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:16,920 Speaker 2: who is the most Improved pac twelve team where by 936 00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:18,759 Speaker 2: the end of the, year like you know what they 937 00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:21,160 Speaker 2: really you, know The COLORADO i would say of this, 938 00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:25,360 Speaker 2: year it could BE. Ucla. OKAY i Like Josh rosen 939 00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:27,880 Speaker 2: when he's, on he needs to be more Consist Does 940 00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:29,000 Speaker 2: Josh rosen care about? 941 00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:33,560 Speaker 1: Football do we? Know does he even care about? Football? 942 00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:37,960 Speaker 1: Tyler speaking of, which ladies and, gentlemen welcome back SERIOUS 943 00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:40,400 Speaker 1: xm the solid verbal eight, eight, eight, nine, nine nine. 944 00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:43,440 Speaker 2: Ten give us a call on The Deve deva's dental. 945 00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:47,120 Speaker 2: Hotline we're talking THE pac twelve. Season is This Sam 946 00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:50,600 Speaker 2: darnold And USC's year to? Shine i'm sure The jets hope. 947 00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:54,319 Speaker 2: So but let's see how it plays Out. Crosstown If 948 00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:57,560 Speaker 2: Josh rosen can keep his mouth, shut can he open 949 00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:01,320 Speaker 2: up more points FOR? Ucla big, question no doubt about. 950 00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:02,000 Speaker 1: It what About? 951 00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:04,560 Speaker 2: Washington we're still talking about a playoff team from last. 952 00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:06,840 Speaker 2: YEAR a lot of people forget. That what do you 953 00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:11,280 Speaker 2: think will the nerds At stanford miss do? Everything christian, 954 00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:15,160 Speaker 2: McCaffrey big, question no doubt about. It and, Hey Chip 955 00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:17,960 Speaker 2: kelly's not walking through that door At. Oregon but will 956 00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,720 Speaker 2: the flash come back For Willie taggart in The? Ducks 957 00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:25,680 Speaker 2: inquiring minds want to know what About? Wazoo what's going 958 00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:29,239 Speaker 2: on up there In pullman with crazy Pirate Mike leach 959 00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:33,440 Speaker 2: better stay, tuned that's for. Sure Was colorado a flash 960 00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:35,960 Speaker 2: in the? Pan or do they have something going on In? 961 00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:40,280 Speaker 2: Boulder big, question zero doubt about that. One can either 962 00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:43,080 Speaker 2: of The arizona schools get something going down? THERE i 963 00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:44,600 Speaker 2: feel like we're sleeping on. 964 00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:45,319 Speaker 1: Them what do you? 965 00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:48,480 Speaker 2: Think how About? Utah they always seem like a thorn 966 00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:51,880 Speaker 2: in somebody's. Side what can that thorn turn into a? 967 00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:55,520 Speaker 2: ROSE i KNOW i want to know new coaches up 968 00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:59,160 Speaker 2: there In, berkeley but can they be liberal with the? 969 00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:02,320 Speaker 2: Winds and what About Oregon? State who are they gonna 970 00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:05,640 Speaker 2: sneak up? On i've got some. Guesses lock it in 971 00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:09,120 Speaker 2: and once, again triple a triple nine two to give 972 00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:11,600 Speaker 2: us a call in The Dave davi's dental. Hotline and 973 00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:15,920 Speaker 2: because you requested, it and because he gets tied in a, 974 00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:19,960 Speaker 2: ladder childish there he, Is Dan. 975 00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:25,040 Speaker 1: Maye your serious sexam preview for THE pac? 976 00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:28,880 Speaker 2: Twelve who are you? Picking by the, Way i'm Picking Stanford. 977 00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:32,880 Speaker 2: Stanford that's a good. PIP i thought about Going. Stanford, 978 00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:38,200 Speaker 2: yeah there's something about the combination and if this Is 979 00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:41,960 Speaker 2: stanford pending the defensive line coming, together that to me 980 00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:45,040 Speaker 2: is a huge question given who they have on their. 981 00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:48,000 Speaker 2: Schedule BUT i love the defense other than, that and 982 00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:50,879 Speaker 2: love the lineup front and. OFFENSE i Like bryce LOVE 983 00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:54,440 Speaker 2: i the pass catching targets are. THERE i Like David. 984 00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:57,320 Speaker 2: SHAW i like the, continuity keeping the coordinators In bloomgren 985 00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:01,400 Speaker 2: And Lance. Anderson SO i Am i'm going with The, cardinal. 986 00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:06,600 Speaker 1: The Raging Stanford boner still in. Play it's, True we've 987 00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:13,040 Speaker 1: got one final team here to, Discuss, dan what's fair is? 988 00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:17,640 Speaker 1: FAIR i played Duck. Hunt you can play the old 989 00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:21,480 Speaker 1: timers music if You, Grandpa, grandpa if you so, desire 990 00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:26,480 Speaker 1: you can play it all Out, grandma grandmother T the 991 00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:29,480 Speaker 1: boys at the solid verbal are Talking Notre dame. Football 992 00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:32,319 Speaker 1: you're in a room by, Yourself, Dan no one buys, It. 993 00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,239 Speaker 1: Joe people are actually anymore type. 994 00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:38,359 Speaker 2: People SO i was in that booth in the old 995 00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:41,520 Speaker 2: studio and it was you, know generally on the weekend 996 00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:45,520 Speaker 2: or after. Work but there is now a even Though 997 00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:49,280 Speaker 2: i'm in mostly a soundproof, room it's probably like ninety percent, 998 00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:53,080 Speaker 2: soundproof there is a window in the, door and people 999 00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:57,719 Speaker 2: do walk, by so there's a good possibility that When 1000 00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:01,720 Speaker 2: i'm Yelling, grandpa somebody could walk by and be very, 1001 00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:03,279 Speaker 2: confused which is. 1002 00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:07,399 Speaker 1: Great so you may have heard That Notre dame went 1003 00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:09,879 Speaker 1: four and eight last, year also part of the four 1004 00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:13,880 Speaker 1: and eight, Club. Dan in case you ever forget What 1005 00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:16,319 Speaker 1: Notre dame's record, was you can just ask our dear 1006 00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:19,719 Speaker 1: Friend Matt brown over at your, Website. Espionation more than, 1007 00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:22,680 Speaker 1: That matt's a good. Dude he just wrote a, Book 1008 00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:26,960 Speaker 1: go buy. IT i admire truly the tenacity with which 1009 00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:31,880 Speaker 1: he's committed himself to this joke because he's still riding 1010 00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:34,400 Speaker 1: the wave and dog you need the patience of a 1011 00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:36,239 Speaker 1: dead horse for it to Be august and still talking 1012 00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:39,279 Speaker 1: About Notre dame going four to. Eight, yes SO i 1013 00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:42,080 Speaker 1: hope for his sake When Notre dame starts the year 1014 00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:44,680 Speaker 1: one to zero that you just have enough content to 1015 00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:46,799 Speaker 1: sustain through to come up with new jokes things like. 1016 00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:51,520 Speaker 2: THAT i like that we are Criticizing Matt brown and anybody. 1017 00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:53,160 Speaker 1: Else i'm not. Criticizing i'm saying that. 1018 00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:58,000 Speaker 2: Criticizing we are bringing Up we are alluding to the 1019 00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:00,680 Speaker 2: fact that people like remembering their record beating a dead, 1020 00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:06,040 Speaker 2: horse whereas years now the making fun Of Notre dame 1021 00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:09,160 Speaker 2: fans as being old and out of. Touch we ourselves 1022 00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:10,840 Speaker 2: and you're included with, this even though you don't do. 1023 00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:15,239 Speaker 2: It this is a show that we traffic in dead. 1024 00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:18,600 Speaker 2: Horses oh, yeah oh, yeah. Yeah so we are self. 1025 00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:21,760 Speaker 2: Aware it might be not, funny but we're self. Aware 1026 00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:24,400 Speaker 2: the horse sound itself is a dead horse in this. Program, 1027 00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:29,439 Speaker 2: yeah shout out To brandon. McKissick we were that's right last. 1028 00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:31,120 Speaker 2: Year here's HOW i. 1029 00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:36,280 Speaker 1: Feel last. Year it was truly a combination of factors 1030 00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:39,799 Speaker 1: that led to four and. Eight the frustrating part is 1031 00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:42,680 Speaker 1: that it was never all the factors at. Once so 1032 00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:45,080 Speaker 1: as a, fan you always had this glimmer of. Hope you, 1033 00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:47,760 Speaker 1: know the offense looks, good but the defense is. Terrible 1034 00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:50,479 Speaker 1: defense looks, good but the offense can't move the. Ball 1035 00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:53,640 Speaker 1: it goes a lot deeper than, that And Notre dame 1036 00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:55,759 Speaker 1: found themselves in a bunch of close games where there 1037 00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:57,719 Speaker 1: was a glimmer of, hope and then they lost most 1038 00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:00,360 Speaker 1: of them and it was just a. Mess but it 1039 00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:02,880 Speaker 1: was a better team than the record would. Indicate you 1040 00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:05,359 Speaker 1: talk to anybody who looks at the, stats and of 1041 00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:09,279 Speaker 1: course the games are not played on. Paper But Notre 1042 00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:11,160 Speaker 1: dame was a better team than four and eight last. 1043 00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:14,720 Speaker 1: Year it just it didn't. MATERIALIZE a lot went. Wrong, 1044 00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:17,400 Speaker 1: WELL i take everything back this, year there is a 1045 00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:20,640 Speaker 1: lot of reason for. Optimism they're loaded at running back 1046 00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:24,200 Speaker 1: With Josh adams And Dexter williams And Tony jones junior 1047 00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:27,279 Speaker 1: is red shirt freshman who could get some work In 1048 00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:31,839 Speaker 1: chiplong's new. Offense they've also got about ten options out, 1049 00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:40,360 Speaker 1: wide including including my Boy Ekwanimia Saint. Brown, dan he's a, 1050 00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:42,399 Speaker 1: big tall wide. Out you might have heard of. Him 1051 00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:44,759 Speaker 1: you selected a. Dude oh, no you? OKAY i was 1052 00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:46,319 Speaker 1: going to say you selected a dude from your own. 1053 00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:50,560 Speaker 1: Team he's an independent. Duartson, yeah, okay an independent. Dude 1054 00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:54,120 Speaker 1: you mentioned a nickname For Equinemias Saint BROWN. 1055 00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:57,080 Speaker 2: Eq is that not okay? Anymore could you please repeat 1056 00:56:57,120 --> 00:57:02,160 Speaker 2: that back for the JURY. Q with that in, Mind, 1057 00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:03,440 Speaker 2: dan you know Where i'm going with. 1058 00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:08,160 Speaker 1: This, God i've been it's been inside, me it's been threatening, 1059 00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:11,600 Speaker 1: Me dan for weeks on. END i thought about this 1060 00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:14,040 Speaker 1: one in the car ride up to our live, show 1061 00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:19,440 Speaker 1: The minister of underwhelming. Nicknames, OH i am so excited 1062 00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:25,560 Speaker 1: FOR eq to give opposing defenses so much trouble you know? What? 1063 00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:30,800 Speaker 2: Ty hell, yeah hell, yeah Because i'm also looking at 1064 00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:32,480 Speaker 2: an equalizer right, Now SO i. 1065 00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:34,720 Speaker 1: Am i'm with. It. Ty we are on the same 1066 00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:38,240 Speaker 1: team with that. One the potential here for audio jokes 1067 00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:44,439 Speaker 1: for a guy NICKNAMED. Eq maybe my own college football. Singularity, 1068 00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:45,480 Speaker 1: yeah and. 1069 00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:47,680 Speaker 2: If Brandon wimbush isn't any. Good you could see him 1070 00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:49,160 Speaker 2: being the victim of a high pass. 1071 00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:52,560 Speaker 1: Right maybe a base defense will be a little too 1072 00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:55,600 Speaker 1: much fun A we're very bad at what we. Do 1073 00:57:55,680 --> 00:58:01,720 Speaker 1: there's no limited on this. OFFENSE i. Disagree literally every 1074 00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:04,680 Speaker 1: audio term could be applied. Here, Equinemias Saint. Brown it's 1075 00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:06,439 Speaker 1: not just. Him they've got a lot of options out. 1076 00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:10,160 Speaker 1: Wide Cam smith is a transfer who comes over From Arizona. 1077 00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:11,520 Speaker 1: State right, now it looks like he's gonna be the 1078 00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:14,880 Speaker 1: number two. Guy a lot of talent to work, with 1079 00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:18,360 Speaker 1: not just at wide out but at tight, end both 1080 00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:22,120 Speaker 1: With durham Smythe Alise. Mack they've got a really good 1081 00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:24,480 Speaker 1: line led By Quentin, Nelson mike mcglinchy on the left. 1082 00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:27,640 Speaker 2: Side is it not Alais A jones? Anymore It's Alise. 1083 00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:30,280 Speaker 2: Mack hell, YEAH i like. That keep me on my. 1084 00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:34,600 Speaker 1: Toes he returns from academic suspension a year. Ago the 1085 00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:37,840 Speaker 1: big question Is Brandon wimbush and how he's going to. 1086 00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:41,480 Speaker 1: Perform not enough is being mentioned about the game of 1087 00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:46,640 Speaker 1: three dimensional chess That Brandon wimbusch found himself in waiting 1088 00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:52,320 Speaker 1: out the murky quarterback situation Between Shaun kaiser And emilik'sayer 1089 00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:53,880 Speaker 1: they both. Left now he gets two. 1090 00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:57,120 Speaker 2: Years he gets two. Years and so we're talking two new, 1091 00:58:57,160 --> 00:59:04,480 Speaker 2: coordinators a new, quarterback a newly at peace and yoga 1092 00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:10,520 Speaker 2: meister head Coach kelly WHO i think the, Latest and 1093 00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:13,640 Speaker 2: we actually have a page a running list of People 1094 00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:17,360 Speaker 2: Brian kelly has blamed for. Things the newest thing is 1095 00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:20,600 Speaker 2: last year he blamed the time he had to spend on. Fundraising, 1096 00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:24,280 Speaker 2: correct that's the new. Thing, okay it's, Tough, honestly it 1097 00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:27,000 Speaker 2: is tough to keep. Track but, Yes Notre dame has 1098 00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:29,040 Speaker 2: to be better this. Year but it is a challenge 1099 00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:33,000 Speaker 2: because Now Notre dame hasn't in a, while at least 1100 00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:35,120 Speaker 2: it hasn't felt like they've had a guy who has 1101 00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:39,120 Speaker 2: been like savior part of the you, know illusion because 1102 00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:41,640 Speaker 2: Of Notre. Dame but it was, Like Notre dame is 1103 00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:44,640 Speaker 2: going to be fine because they have this big armed 1104 00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:47,520 Speaker 2: quarterback And Brandon wimbush and they're starting over with a 1105 00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:51,240 Speaker 2: lot of talent on. Offense But wimbush is the. Guy 1106 00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:52,520 Speaker 2: how do you feel about? 1107 00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:59,320 Speaker 1: That, NO i, MEAN i don't think he's earned, That. 1108 00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:00,040 Speaker 2: But isn't that like the sort of you know he 1109 01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:03,760 Speaker 2: no doubt about its, starter and the hope to like 1110 01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:06,440 Speaker 2: at least turn this team into an eight win team 1111 01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:07,280 Speaker 2: is on. 1112 01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:10,360 Speaker 1: Him it is on. Him it is on. Him, thankfully 1113 01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:12,360 Speaker 1: it's not all on. Him he's got enough of a 1114 01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:15,800 Speaker 1: supporting cast that if he's just fair To, midland they 1115 01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:17,840 Speaker 1: should still find a way to win seven or eight. Games, 1116 01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:21,160 Speaker 1: OKAY i have got a great offensive line in front of. 1117 01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:24,200 Speaker 1: HIM i love Mcglenchean. NELSON a great offensive line defensively 1118 01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:28,280 Speaker 1: is also a story worth. Mentioning can't focus entirely on 1119 01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:31,240 Speaker 1: the offense because they did Bring Mike elko over to 1120 01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:34,760 Speaker 1: be defensive coordinator From. Wake he will find a way 1121 01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:38,080 Speaker 1: to pressure the quarterback even if there is some turnover up. 1122 01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:41,720 Speaker 1: Front the reports out of practice For Notre dame is 1123 01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:45,960 Speaker 1: that they're missing fewer. Tackles, now, again it's only. Practice 1124 01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:49,160 Speaker 1: read into that however deeply you'd like, to But Notre 1125 01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:51,120 Speaker 1: dame has really had an issue with that over the 1126 01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:55,200 Speaker 1: last couple of. Seasons missing, tackles guys running through. Tackles 1127 01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:58,640 Speaker 1: all the fancy stats that we talk about don't Mean 1128 01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:01,400 Speaker 1: jack if he can't tackle on. Defense if they get 1129 01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:04,720 Speaker 1: better in that singular, RESPECT i will feel much much 1130 01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:07,280 Speaker 1: better about where this defense is. HEADED i don't like 1131 01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:09,560 Speaker 1: that they Lose Isaac rochelle And Jaron jones along the, 1132 01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:12,480 Speaker 1: line BUT i think otherwise they should be. Fine. 1133 01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:16,640 Speaker 2: TYE i love the optimism of sort of talking about 1134 01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:19,200 Speaker 2: practice reports that they're better at tackling their own. 1135 01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:24,360 Speaker 1: Team they're better at tackling for and eight is Where 1136 01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:27,720 Speaker 1: i'm coming. From it's Where i'm coming. From EVEN i 1137 01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:31,720 Speaker 1: didn't say, that, Well i'm saying it for. You forny 1138 01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:35,160 Speaker 1: is Where i'm coming. From that's my starting. Point there's 1139 01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:38,240 Speaker 1: nowhere to go but. Up, yeah they're really taking it 1140 01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:43,960 Speaker 1: to the scout. Team, really they're looking like national championship. 1141 01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:49,320 Speaker 2: Contenders eight's the scound four eight and. Four, yeah that's. 1142 01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:52,240 Speaker 2: Fine the schedule is such where there really isn't are 1143 01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:53,280 Speaker 2: there like difficult. 1144 01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:56,440 Speaker 1: RUNS i don't think there. Are it's everything pretty evenly. 1145 01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:57,440 Speaker 1: BALANCED i think. 1146 01:01:57,280 --> 01:01:59,960 Speaker 2: They van the season in a tough way going To Miami, 1147 01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:02,880 Speaker 2: navy who is just. Listen even as with as much 1148 01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:07,120 Speaker 2: As navy has, lost they are they're. Tricky Notre name's 1149 01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:09,520 Speaker 2: on a losing streak against The, midshipman and then they 1150 01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:11,920 Speaker 2: go To, stanford so it's a tough way to finish 1151 01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:14,600 Speaker 2: the schedule. Out but if This Notre dame team has 1152 01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:17,880 Speaker 2: their head on screwed screwed on, properly then they'll be 1153 01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:20,600 Speaker 2: fine and they'll win seven or, eight maybe nine games 1154 01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:23,640 Speaker 2: if if everything comes together And Brandon wimbush is What 1155 01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:28,920 Speaker 2: Notre dame fans really do believe he. Is, yeah middle 1156 01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:32,760 Speaker 2: of the, Schedule Boston, College Michigan, State Miami North. CAROLINA 1157 01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:35,120 Speaker 2: i mean that's the sort of Mid september Early october 1158 01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:39,160 Speaker 2: BEFORE usc AND Nc, state which is a tricky one 1159 01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:42,720 Speaker 2: two ty, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah it's IT'S i think 1160 01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:45,000 Speaker 2: both of those games are In South bend, Though, right that's, 1161 01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:46,240 Speaker 2: Correct all, right that's good. 1162 01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:50,959 Speaker 1: Enough but that is that's. Tough so it's. Tough it'll 1163 01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:54,360 Speaker 1: be a challenging. Schedule it's pretty solid the full way. 1164 01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:57,360 Speaker 1: THROUGH a lot does fall On, wimbush But i'm glad 1165 01:02:57,360 --> 01:02:59,439 Speaker 1: that it all is not falling on. Him i'm glad 1166 01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:02,640 Speaker 1: that he's got a decent supporting. Cast, yes without a, 1167 01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:06,040 Speaker 1: doubt And durham smythe is a wonderful. Name give, me 1168 01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:09,120 Speaker 1: stop me when we get to a team that you're 1169 01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:14,800 Speaker 1: not sixty percent. Sure Notre dame can can beat not sixty? Percent? Sure? 1170 01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:19,240 Speaker 1: Okay so you are, yeah forty percent or? Less? Sure? 1171 01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:26,200 Speaker 1: Okay Temple, Georgia yeah that's. 1172 01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:32,720 Speaker 2: Fair, Yeah Boston college on the road At Michigan, State, Miami, 1173 01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:34,520 Speaker 2: ohio At North. 1174 01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:37,160 Speaker 1: CAROLINA i feel like they should be able to Beat North. 1175 01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:39,320 Speaker 1: Carolina the. Show they should be able to Beat North. Carolina. 1176 01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:42,240 Speaker 1: Yeah North carolina is doing a major overhaul this. 1177 01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:44,960 Speaker 2: Year it could be monsoon season, though tie crap we 1178 01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:49,400 Speaker 2: saw last year Crap STATE Usc. 1179 01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:54,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah that's that's a no. BRAINER Nc state on 1180 01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:56,920 Speaker 1: the Border Wake. 1181 01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:02,280 Speaker 2: Wake should be beatable again At miami another possible monsoon. 1182 01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:05,240 Speaker 2: Game another Possible that, Game Notre, dame that Game Star, 1183 01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:06,600 Speaker 2: high that game scares. 1184 01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:12,800 Speaker 1: Me, navy you feel like they've got their act. Together 1185 01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:15,440 Speaker 1: they should be able to Be. Navy. Okay and on 1186 01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:17,480 Speaker 1: the road Against. STANFORD i feel like that is Definitely 1187 01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:19,680 Speaker 1: stanford a week After navy is not a good. 1188 01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:23,840 Speaker 2: Look oh that's, right the Post navy body, blow the 1189 01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:24,479 Speaker 2: Post navy. 1190 01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:24,760 Speaker 1: Drip. 1191 01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:28,360 Speaker 2: Pooh you know, what, ty do you have our full 1192 01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:30,320 Speaker 2: soundboard capability at your disposal right? 1193 01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:32,480 Speaker 1: NOW i? Do? Okay you? Ready? 1194 01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:35,560 Speaker 2: YEAH i don't know what the spread is going to 1195 01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:39,920 Speaker 2: be At stanford For Notre dame lock up the cardinal form. 1196 01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:45,800 Speaker 1: Lock of the. WEEK i think that's totally, fair totally. 1197 01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:48,520 Speaker 2: All, right just making sure it Is august twenty fourth 1198 01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:51,000 Speaker 2: when we're recording. It we just peeled back that layer 1199 01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:53,040 Speaker 2: of the Scheduling onion. 1200 01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:58,280 Speaker 1: At Miami november, Eleventh navy On november, eighteenth and then At. 1201 01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:02,480 Speaker 1: Stanford so the punch Of, Miami navy And stanford to 1202 01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:06,000 Speaker 1: end the year is pretty, challenging to be quite. Honest 1203 01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:08,360 Speaker 1: and we'll be a test. 1204 01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:12,000 Speaker 2: If we're going to stretch it out even. LONGER USC 1205 01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:15,360 Speaker 2: Nc State Wake. Forest they should win one or two 1206 01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:18,480 Speaker 2: of those games still body bull potential and all three of. Them, 1207 01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:22,120 Speaker 2: yeah those are that's it looks like in The navy's 1208 01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:24,480 Speaker 2: defense probably is going to be, wonderful but it's still 1209 01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:30,000 Speaker 2: going to be. Tough that's six straight just, DIFFICULTIES i would, 1210 01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:31,640 Speaker 2: say all, Right. 1211 01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:33,560 Speaker 1: So there you have, it eight and. Four eight and 1212 01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:36,960 Speaker 1: four is my. Prediction, yeah what's your playoff? Prediction? Dan 1213 01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:38,280 Speaker 1: oh my? 1214 01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:41,080 Speaker 2: God what did what did it show? Up on the 1215 01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:43,320 Speaker 2: live show we did For Espian. Nation my four random 1216 01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:48,040 Speaker 2: teams were Like, FLORIDA usc, Okay so in Actuality it'll Be, 1217 01:05:48,160 --> 01:06:00,320 Speaker 2: Stanford Ohio, State, Alabama Florida state BECAUSE i think the 1218 01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:02,880 Speaker 2: The Ohio State oklahoma game will Eliminate oklahoma BECAUSE i 1219 01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:05,120 Speaker 2: think they lose a game in conference as. 1220 01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:09,200 Speaker 1: Well we've got one team. DIFFERENT i agree On, BAMA 1221 01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:12,040 Speaker 1: i agree In Florida, STATE i agree On Ohio. State 1222 01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:17,240 Speaker 1: i'm gonna Go washington instead Of. Stanford Those, therefore what 1223 01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:20,600 Speaker 1: is a team right? Now And i'm loading the rankings. 1224 01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:24,080 Speaker 1: Up what is a team right now that is outside 1225 01:06:24,080 --> 01:06:27,320 Speaker 1: of the top twenty. Five we've sort of talked about this, 1226 01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:29,160 Speaker 1: before and you can take a second to load it. 1227 01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:33,360 Speaker 1: Up that will finish in the top, fifteen top. Fifteen, 1228 01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:40,479 Speaker 1: wow here are the others receiving, VOTES, Tcu, Utah Notre, 1229 01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:45,920 Speaker 1: Dame Boise, STATE Nc, State Northwestern, Pittsburgh, Oregon. Oregon what 1230 01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:50,080 Speaker 1: THE Nc state And utah are two that are intriguing to. 1231 01:06:50,120 --> 01:06:53,560 Speaker 1: Me Notre. DAME i am inclined to say they're a 1232 01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:55,960 Speaker 1: top twenty five. Team they're gonna be a top twenty five, 1233 01:06:56,040 --> 01:07:00,400 Speaker 1: Team but will they finish in the top. FIFTEEN i 1234 01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:02,760 Speaker 1: think that's a red herring because they've finished up With. 1235 01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:05,600 Speaker 1: Stanford as we just, mentioned that's probably a loss so 1236 01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:08,000 Speaker 1: that would cause them to. Drop SO i think the 1237 01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:11,040 Speaker 1: answer is from MERE Nc state In. Utah you know, What. 1238 01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:14,480 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go To utah. Here, Yeah i'm gonna agree with. 1239 01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:19,960 Speaker 1: You so, look that does it for our twenty seventeen conference. 1240 01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:22,600 Speaker 1: Previews thank you to everyone who listened to all five 1241 01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:24,680 Speaker 1: shows or just one of our. 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