WEBVTT - #333 - Janelle Monáe

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, what's up, Y'all's Janelle Monnee. Check me out on

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<v Speaker 1>the Bootleg keV Podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Bootleg keV Show special guest in here. Thank you for

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<v Speaker 2>Cominge Monee.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for having me Bootleg keV.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I was telling you this album that you have

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<v Speaker 2>released it just first of all, I heard you had

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<v Speaker 2>a good time last night celebrating I did. I did,

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<v Speaker 2>great album. It feels like the summer. It feels like

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<v Speaker 2>pool vibes. It feels like, you know, barbecue in water, mm,

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<v Speaker 2>alcohol in the air.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, well, thank you so much for listening.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I definitely have vacation vibes on my mind.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you're also in the water on the cover.

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<v Speaker 1>So yes, you know it's all about being I'm more

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<v Speaker 1>like I will say, I'm like water these days. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what life. You gotta you gotta roll like.

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<v Speaker 3>That for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I think like you obviously we know that like

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<v Speaker 2>Afrobeats is kind of like finally getting it's like just

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<v Speaker 2>do commercially, but for you to have like Egypt eighty

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<v Speaker 2>on the project repeatedly, they're kind of like the family

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<v Speaker 2>that started afrobeats. Yeah, so I don't think a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people know that is that was that something like

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<v Speaker 2>you consciously wanted to do, like kind of give them

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<v Speaker 2>their light, because I think that was pretty dope to

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<v Speaker 2>have them on the album.

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<v Speaker 1>All yeah, No, shay Yun Kuti, who is the son

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if you guys don't know, is the son

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<v Speaker 1>of Fela Kuti, who is just legendary.

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<v Speaker 2>The founder of afrobeats, the.

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<v Speaker 1>Founder of so much of the music that we love

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<v Speaker 1>from the continent. And we had done like a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of shows together and you know, he definitely is making

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<v Speaker 1>his dad proud, but he's his own person and he's

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<v Speaker 1>just sick when it comes to horn playing. And I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I want to make sure that we have

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<v Speaker 1>his touch because it's important to me that the diaspora

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<v Speaker 1>is seen here. You know, this is a super Pan

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<v Speaker 1>African album. Blackness from every corner. You know, all of

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<v Speaker 1>my friends are from you know, Ghana, Nigeria, South Africa, Jamaica, Caribbean,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's beautiful when our music, you know, America, North America,

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<v Speaker 1>all of our music cultures can talk to each other.

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<v Speaker 1>So that was that was important on this album that

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<v Speaker 1>you saw saw this melting pot of like I guess,

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<v Speaker 1>appreciation and love for for all things us and.

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<v Speaker 2>It sounds like very good, like it's it'd be like

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<v Speaker 2>some people try to pull stuff in and it's like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it just sounds like like it sounds great

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<v Speaker 2>and organic. So I agree. Yo. I wanted to ask

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<v Speaker 2>you because obviously are you from Kansas City, Kansas to Missouri.

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<v Speaker 3>Kansas City, Kansas all day? You gotta know it?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you like super hip to like because on the

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<v Speaker 2>other side of the order there's Casey Mo and there's

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<v Speaker 2>like Tech nine is like the biggest guy.

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<v Speaker 1>I love Tech nine. Yes, I've been doing Tech nine

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<v Speaker 1>for a long time. We used to be well he

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<v Speaker 1>probably wasn't doing these, but I would remember performing at

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<v Speaker 1>events where he would be and performing talent shows. That

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<v Speaker 1>was all I did. Five hundred dollars first prize and

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<v Speaker 1>Tech nine was like always the guy in Kansas City legendary.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I just always want because I was such a small

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<v Speaker 2>place in terms of like musically.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's on the Missouri side, but we share

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<v Speaker 1>a city and we all. I was always performed, we

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<v Speaker 1>were performing at the same events. We would always somehow

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<v Speaker 1>end up in the same sort of studio with the

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<v Speaker 1>same people. Yeah, I have a whole whole nother past.

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<v Speaker 1>The Weirdos too, that was another rap group. I used

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<v Speaker 1>to be sort of in that group singing. We were

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<v Speaker 1>like a more I don't know, like experimental fujis.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, Yeah, I like that.

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<v Speaker 1>We we love the Fujis and we were like, how

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<v Speaker 1>can we make it even more weird?

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<v Speaker 3>You know when we did stuff together?

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<v Speaker 2>So you know what I mean. I realized too recently

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<v Speaker 2>because I just revisited I revisited Idlewild for like the

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<v Speaker 2>first time. It feels like in like ten years. Wow,

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<v Speaker 2>Because I'm a huge Outcast fan. I got Equimini right there. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but that's like the last real I guess body of

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<v Speaker 2>work we got from both of them. And you're on

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<v Speaker 2>that body of work, it's got to be a big

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<v Speaker 2>like do you ever like think like, damn, I'm on

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<v Speaker 2>the last Outcast album like that?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, this is legendary.

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<v Speaker 1>They're legendary and just as people, I love them, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they they've always been sort of like mentors to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Big Boy did a lot for my career, sure, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and and I always thank them. And then even artistically

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<v Speaker 1>when you look at Outcasts, you know, they always pushed

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<v Speaker 1>something new, you know, you got the roots of funk

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<v Speaker 1>and and but they the way that they did it

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<v Speaker 1>was super innovative and it definitely inspired me to to

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<v Speaker 1>to start wanting to when I first started out to

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<v Speaker 1>be comfortable and confident.

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<v Speaker 3>In being unique.

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<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say, they did such a good job

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<v Speaker 2>of reinventing themselves every album, And you've done a good

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<v Speaker 2>job of kind of reinventing yourself every time you put

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<v Speaker 2>a new body or workout. Is that something that because

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<v Speaker 2>I think fans sometimes get wrapped up in like liking

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<v Speaker 2>their favorite artists for like Justice, But I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>the greats, like we think of Kendrick yourself obviously cast

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<v Speaker 2>like they always are reinventing themselves, like every project, Like

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<v Speaker 2>you know, for you, is that something like do you

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<v Speaker 2>always want to make sure when you're putting out a

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<v Speaker 2>new body of work or you start recording that you

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<v Speaker 2>maybe experiment a little bit more.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Yeah, it's fun.

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<v Speaker 1>I love the journey and evolving and finding out new

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<v Speaker 1>things about myself, discovering new things about what I can do,

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<v Speaker 1>redefining that for myself on my turn, my own turn, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, as artists, you make the rules.

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<v Speaker 1>So everything you know from me today. I literally made

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<v Speaker 1>up those rules that this is this is what I

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<v Speaker 1>want to do, and you know, this is how I'm

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<v Speaker 1>living my life at this time. And it's always beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to honor where you are at that time.

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<v Speaker 1>You can look back on every album and.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, wow, you remember where I was?

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<v Speaker 2>Where were Yeah? Yeah, yeah, talk about because obviously I

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<v Speaker 2>think a lot of people don't realize that, like you

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<v Speaker 2>have like an incredibly sick label and like a guy

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<v Speaker 2>like Jadenna started with you. Yes, And I think Jodenna

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<v Speaker 2>is somebody who is a fucking beast of an artist.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree, he doesn't get enough credit.

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<v Speaker 3>I agree.

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of feel like Classic Man was like a

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<v Speaker 2>gift in the curse because it was such a big record. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you got to dive into Jodenna's catalog. Yeah, super talented.

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<v Speaker 3>And he actually just released a new album.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah he did, he did. And I was gonna say, like,

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<v Speaker 2>for you, what is your well when it comes to

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<v Speaker 2>the label side and your creative company, what approach do

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<v Speaker 2>you take when it comes to finding talent or just

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<v Speaker 2>working with somebody.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, right now, you know, my career has taken off

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<v Speaker 1>in the time that I'll just have to be completely

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<v Speaker 1>honest being an artist and sort of having a label,

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<v Speaker 1>and then yes, it's a lot, but even even you know,

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<v Speaker 1>even with Ja Dinna, we're family, you know, like I

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<v Speaker 1>always I'm always, like more so of a big sister

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<v Speaker 1>to him. If he needs advice, or if he wants

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<v Speaker 1>me to listen to a mix, or if he's like

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<v Speaker 1>should this go on the album?

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<v Speaker 3>Or what do you think about this?

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<v Speaker 1>We talk and and business wise, if he needs advice,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm there for him. But for the most part, I

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<v Speaker 1>like to artists should like be in control of what

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<v Speaker 1>it is that they're doing. I don't ever want to

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<v Speaker 1>talk over that, get in the way of that. And

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<v Speaker 1>also be honest about just what I can take on.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I think everything is partnership level. I think

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<v Speaker 1>right now you don't even need a label. Nobody needs

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<v Speaker 1>a label, really, you really don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean to go straight to the people.

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<v Speaker 3>You can go straight to the people.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously being independent, I've been into an independent artist with

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<v Speaker 1>no major label backing. I have my own label, right

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<v Speaker 1>and I know what it's like to sell CDs out

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<v Speaker 1>of your trunk. I know what it's like to live

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<v Speaker 1>in a boarding house, you know, working at office depot

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<v Speaker 1>selling CDs out of your trunk, Like, I totally get that,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's you know, it's it's hard. It's difficult for

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<v Speaker 1>independent artists. But I think if you you know you,

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<v Speaker 1>you can rewrite the rules as well.

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<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say for you, like you are also

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<v Speaker 2>like a huge actress you are in I mean, what

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<v Speaker 2>was the class? What a horror movie you're injury? Like?

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<v Speaker 2>Was it Annabella?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yes, Antebellum.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, for you when you're in like acting mode, right,

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<v Speaker 2>because I know it's it's a lot to like act

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<v Speaker 2>and like you have to give your mental space to

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<v Speaker 2>like being someone else? Does it take away a lot

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<v Speaker 2>from the music m like you have to be in like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm turning down roles because I'm working on music. Or

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<v Speaker 2>can you do both simultaneously?

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<v Speaker 1>I think with me music, I have to be in

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<v Speaker 1>the studio on, hands on with it. I can't just

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I need to be writing, collaborating, living it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, touching it, feeling it. I engineer a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of my sessions, so even.

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<v Speaker 2>You're running your own pro tools.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well I work out of logic. Oh oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I work out of logic. Yeah, and I can work

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<v Speaker 1>out of pro tools, but I prefer to do logic.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, so just I need to be super hands

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<v Speaker 1>on with music, so I do have to say no

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes to you know, roles that may come in. It

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<v Speaker 1>may come in, and sometimes that's difficult. But music has

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<v Speaker 1>been so good to me a lot of the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that I got a lot of my movie

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<v Speaker 1>roles because of my music career, because people were able

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<v Speaker 1>to see me and go into different characters. With Glass Sunyon,

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<v Speaker 1>the movie I just got finished doing, Ryan Johnson said

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<v Speaker 1>that he was like, I saw that you could be,

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<v Speaker 1>you can embody these different characters, and this is what

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<v Speaker 1>we need in this movie. You know. It is because

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<v Speaker 1>of your film for Dirty Computer and seeing you in

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<v Speaker 1>your different music videos and I was like, oh, she

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<v Speaker 1>can do this, So I'm gonna always make time for music.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>What was it like working on set with the Craig

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<v Speaker 2>guy that the double Daniel Craig.

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<v Speaker 1>I love Daniel, I love I love He's so humble.

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<v Speaker 1>James he killed as James Bond and he's so much

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<v Speaker 1>more though too, Like I didn't even just talking to him.

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<v Speaker 2>He had that role that he plays in those two movies.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, manz no his range is just incredible, seeing I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going from that southern drawl to you know, I'm Daniel,

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<v Speaker 1>like the British accent.

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<v Speaker 3>Such a sweetheart.

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<v Speaker 1>The whole cast, Edward Norton, I mean, Fight Club was like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like my top five, me too, Kate Hudson, all

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<v Speaker 1>of them legendary.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was a wild cast. If you just like,

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<v Speaker 2>how much was the budget for this movie? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly exactly, No, we we had a wonderful time. We

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<v Speaker 1>shot that in Greece, and in fact, it actually made

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<v Speaker 1>me get inspired to do this album. I shot that

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<v Speaker 1>film and in the same year I wrote this album.

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<v Speaker 2>Really was it because Greece is like a vibe, low key.

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<v Speaker 3>It was vacation vibe.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, oh, man, like, what kind of what do

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<v Speaker 1>I want to hear when I'm here? You know, when

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<v Speaker 1>I'm on an island. I mean I didn't pay to

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<v Speaker 1>go there. I mean obviously the studio got me there,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was just so inspired, and I started thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about how I wanted to feel even when I couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>go on vacation. I need an album that sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>you're on vacation. And I just knew my producer was

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<v Speaker 1>sending me music while I was on set. I was

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<v Speaker 1>picking the drums and different things, and by the time

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<v Speaker 1>I shot Glass Sungon I came back, I already had

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<v Speaker 1>a musical.

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<v Speaker 2>Bed like yeah, flottenl.

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<v Speaker 1>I definitely wrote and plotted.

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<v Speaker 3>Well. I'm also plotted a lot while I was on set.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, has what has been the most uncomfortable role you've

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<v Speaker 2>played as as someone who acts, because I do feel

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<v Speaker 2>like there's a there's a lot that comes with that gig. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>kind of die.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Antebellum was tough. I don't know if I'll

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<v Speaker 1>ever do a role like that again. It was really

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<v Speaker 1>tough to go and be on a plantation and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>play an enslaved person in modern day times.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a lot on.

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<v Speaker 2>Sea that seems deep. Its heavy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was very heavy.

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<v Speaker 1>And it took a lot for me to get that

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<v Speaker 1>off of me too, because immediately after I wrapped, my

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<v Speaker 1>friends were like, let's go to Mexico, and so I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I need a vacation. But I couldn't shape

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<v Speaker 1>that role and I would just remember showing up just

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<v Speaker 1>like being super uneasy.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, girl, what the fuck is wrong with you?

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, listen, I lived basically lived on the

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<v Speaker 1>plantation for two months. You know. I did it for

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<v Speaker 1>my reasons, to chant, to honor, you know, my ancestors,

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<v Speaker 1>and to bring awareness, you know, to to a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of injustices. But yeah, I don't think I think that

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<v Speaker 1>was probably my hardest.

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<v Speaker 2>So when they say, like, when you act, you can

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<v Speaker 2>like get into the role. I just saw, Uh the

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<v Speaker 2>guy who plays Franklin sat on Snowfall say he like

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<v Speaker 2>channeled the devil to be Franklin Saint it's Snowfall, and

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<v Speaker 2>he's like it, like it messed with him, Like after

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<v Speaker 2>the show is over a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, people don't realize you're you're living and breathing. And

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<v Speaker 1>I always you know, stay out into the universe, like

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<v Speaker 1>reduce Janelle Money. I want you to see the spirit

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<v Speaker 1>of this character. And and yeah, a lot, a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of times it's hard to shake those rolls.

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<v Speaker 2>Off somebody who you had as a mentor, which not

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people can say, is uh, rest in

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<v Speaker 2>peace to Prince Prince, who's one of the greatest creators

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<v Speaker 2>of all time, quite possibly the most talented musician ever.

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<v Speaker 2>He's up there the guitar. He could do it all

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<v Speaker 2>how did you guys initially connect?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, he.

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<v Speaker 1>Is always The story just still freaks me out, and

0:13:51.320 --> 0:13:53.439
<v Speaker 1>that freaks me out, but just I can't even believe

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<v Speaker 1>that it happened.

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<v Speaker 3>But he was supposed to show up. I was opening

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<v Speaker 3>up for.

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<v Speaker 1>Raphael Sadek doing Yeah, exactly, my first album, and I

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<v Speaker 1>get a knock after I get finished performing, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I had I remember, I had a sinus infection that day.

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<v Speaker 3>I was just like.

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<v Speaker 1>Loopy and this really really pretty girl knocks on the

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<v Speaker 1>door and she was like, I have somebody who wants

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<v Speaker 1>to talk to you. And the girl was DJ Rashida,

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<v Speaker 1>who was Princess DJ at the time, but I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know that that was, you know, his DJ, And she

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<v Speaker 1>just gives me the phone and then I'm like hello,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like congested and I'm just like hello, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's like hello Janell and I'm like, Hi, who is this?

0:14:41.000 --> 0:14:47.320
<v Speaker 1>This is Prince Prince, Yeah, Prince, I was supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>come to your gig, but they gave me the wrong time.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm like what, like.

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<v Speaker 1>Just freaking out or trying not to because I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to embarrass myself. And so then he proceeds to

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<v Speaker 1>say listen. I was was to come, we're having a

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<v Speaker 1>jam session. You know, do you and the band want

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<v Speaker 1>to come back and you know jam? And I was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we want to come back and jam. And the rest

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<v Speaker 1>was history. The rest was on the Minneapolis towards No

0:15:14.040 --> 0:15:16.200
<v Speaker 1>he was in La So what he would do is

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<v Speaker 1>and he was one of the best like party throwers

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<v Speaker 1>that you will ever know.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, we have seen some Chappelle skits that I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how true those kids are, but my

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<v Speaker 1>interactions with him have always been like can play guitar

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<v Speaker 1>and party like till the sun comes up seven in

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<v Speaker 1>the morning. I didn't leave that night, me and my band,

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<v Speaker 1>we did not leave till seven in the morning.

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<v Speaker 2>So this was a jam session day seven.

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<v Speaker 3>In the morning.

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<v Speaker 1>It was it was just it was amazing. And he

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<v Speaker 1>was just talking to me. He was like he was

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<v Speaker 1>telling me everything he loved about what he had seen

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<v Speaker 1>me do. And I was like, I didn't even know

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<v Speaker 1>you looked on the internet.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, like you know who I am.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just like I would just think you would be somewhere,

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<v Speaker 1>get up in some sort of castle, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Right with no Wi Fi.

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<v Speaker 1>But he was very aware and I always tell people

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<v Speaker 1>the best thing about him is like even though he

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<v Speaker 1>was mysterious, he never let his mystery get in the

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<v Speaker 1>way of his mentorship. He was always like wanting to

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<v Speaker 1>give advice and you know, open up if you have

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<v Speaker 1>any questions about the business. And didn't even charge me

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<v Speaker 1>anything to be on my album.

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<v Speaker 2>Give me the most. You have three pretty serious mentors, Prince, Puff, Daddy,

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<v Speaker 2>Big Boy. Give me three lessons each of them of you.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, Prince is like obviously like the blueprint for you know,

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<v Speaker 1>owning your you know, like as an artist, not being

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<v Speaker 1>afraid to fight for what you were old on the

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<v Speaker 1>business side of things, and also creating a blueprint.

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<v Speaker 3>That felt so free.

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<v Speaker 1>And you could do anything, you know, and just and

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<v Speaker 1>just also speaking with him, he just always reminded me

0:17:16.400 --> 0:17:19.080
<v Speaker 1>that musically there was nothing that I could not do.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think with Puff, who has been a person

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<v Speaker 1>of his word, you know, we have a partnership together.

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<v Speaker 1>When he had first heard me and doing the science

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<v Speaker 1>fiction singing about that and you know, doing doing whatever

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to do as an artist creatively, he always said, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to mess that up. I just want

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of the world to see what I saw.

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<v Speaker 1>What I just saw tonight. I just want to help.

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<v Speaker 1>So I called him at a really good time. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he's just always been an advocate for me.

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<v Speaker 1>If I need to have like any busines in his conversations,

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<v Speaker 1>I can, I know I can call him and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>listen to him as well.

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<v Speaker 3>And then he just taught.

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<v Speaker 1>Me to just like be a fan of your own

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<v Speaker 1>ship too, you know, promote your stuff.

0:18:12.720 --> 0:18:14.600
<v Speaker 2>If you love it, you promote your ship.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you worked hard, and I think with big Boy,

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<v Speaker 1>Big Boy was just I mean, I gotta give it

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<v Speaker 1>to him. You know. The reason why Puffy even knew

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<v Speaker 1>about me was because of the work that Big Boy

0:18:27.160 --> 0:18:28.600
<v Speaker 1>gave to me. I was singing back up, I was

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<v Speaker 1>also on Idle Wild. You know, he was really really

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<v Speaker 1>promoting me with Purple Ribbon. He taught me the important stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, staying with family, like staying with the people

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<v Speaker 1>for like a little little bit. Yeah, my, but I

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<v Speaker 1>always had my label, but I would do partnership. Yeah, yes,

0:18:50.640 --> 0:18:53.320
<v Speaker 1>look at you. A lot of people do not remember kill.

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<v Speaker 2>A Mike Scar This new album, when is it coming out?

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<v Speaker 2>I listened to it a couple of weeks ago. It's incredible,

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<v Speaker 2>one of the greatest rappers of all time.

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<v Speaker 3>I gotta I gotta listen to it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's incredible. Who has the best parties? Prince or Diddy?

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<v Speaker 1>Ooh, that's so tough because both of them know how.

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<v Speaker 3>To party, the legendary party different.

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<v Speaker 1>It's different. I wonder if they I never went to

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<v Speaker 1>a party where they.

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<v Speaker 3>Did it together. The world. Yeah, it would explode, like Prince.

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<v Speaker 1>Party, man, because you're gonna get music from like both

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<v Speaker 1>of them are going to play the best music, have

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<v Speaker 1>the most beautiful people there, good food. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>Princeville listen, I please, because it's good for different reasons,

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<v Speaker 1>like for different reasons, so both both, I'll say both

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<v Speaker 1>like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that we are in like a weird area

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<v Speaker 2>of being ignorant of what that means. And I think that, like,

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<v Speaker 2>to certain pronouns, and can you kind of just like

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<v Speaker 3>They them and free, ask motherfucker?

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<v Speaker 2>Free motherfucker is the most important one. Yes for you, though,

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<v Speaker 2>like can you kind of? I feel like there should

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like this is all new, Like why it's

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, you know, we are all here having

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<v Speaker 1>even if I have this saying embrace the things that

0:23:26.840 --> 0:23:29.400
<v Speaker 1>make you unique, even if it makes others uncomfortable.

0:23:30.040 --> 0:23:31.239
<v Speaker 3>And I just live by that.

0:23:31.400 --> 0:23:37.320
<v Speaker 1>And my hope is that as we're having this earth experience,

0:23:37.400 --> 0:23:40.520
<v Speaker 1>everybody can understand that we come from different walks of life.

0:23:40.880 --> 0:23:45.080
<v Speaker 1>Some people are a different evolutions and discoveries on who

0:23:45.119 --> 0:23:48.359
<v Speaker 1>they are. And just because you may not understand anything

0:23:48.400 --> 0:23:51.439
<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean that you shouldn't respect it, right. So, I

0:23:51.480 --> 0:23:55.280
<v Speaker 1>think in terms of me being non binary, I think

0:23:55.320 --> 0:23:57.040
<v Speaker 1>I was non binary a long time ago. I just

0:23:57.080 --> 0:24:00.200
<v Speaker 1>didn't have the language. And so that's it's important. That's

0:24:00.240 --> 0:24:03.560
<v Speaker 1>why it's so important to even have certain words and

0:24:03.560 --> 0:24:06.840
<v Speaker 1>and and a community putting, you know, the words to

0:24:06.880 --> 0:24:09.320
<v Speaker 1>how you're feeling. I mean, Prince said it best. I'm

0:24:09.320 --> 0:24:11.840
<v Speaker 1>not a woman, I'm not a man. I'm something that

0:24:11.880 --> 0:24:15.640
<v Speaker 1>you'll never understand. And I always identify with that word,

0:24:15.840 --> 0:24:16.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, with those words.

0:24:16.920 --> 0:24:18.880
<v Speaker 2>Prince might have been the first non binary polist.

0:24:21.320 --> 0:24:23.679
<v Speaker 1>Listen, So I feel all of me, you know, I

0:24:23.720 --> 0:24:27.040
<v Speaker 1>feel I feel all of me. I honor all of me,

0:24:27.280 --> 0:24:32.240
<v Speaker 1>and I see my my spirit and and and me

0:24:32.359 --> 0:24:36.560
<v Speaker 1>outside of the binary constructs of I think that's what today.

0:24:36.600 --> 0:24:39.760
<v Speaker 2>I think a lot of people don't understand what it means. Right.

0:24:39.359 --> 0:24:42.920
<v Speaker 1>It's they can google it, It's very definitely. It's it's

0:24:42.960 --> 0:24:45.600
<v Speaker 1>out it's out there, you know, the Google. As my

0:24:46.640 --> 0:24:48.600
<v Speaker 1>older older aunt will say.

0:24:49.280 --> 0:24:54.359
<v Speaker 2>I always tell people to like, if you're so wrapped

0:24:54.440 --> 0:24:57.640
<v Speaker 2>up on calling somebody the wrong thing because it makes

0:24:57.680 --> 0:25:00.240
<v Speaker 2>you feel better, but it makes someone else feel bad

0:25:00.240 --> 0:25:03.720
<v Speaker 2>about themselves. Yeah, it's like, how much of an inconvenience

0:25:03.800 --> 0:25:08.159
<v Speaker 2>is it to like respect a word? Like you're not

0:25:08.200 --> 0:25:11.520
<v Speaker 2>asking somebody to like do anything crazy, like just call

0:25:11.560 --> 0:25:13.359
<v Speaker 2>somebody what they prefer to be called, because if you

0:25:13.600 --> 0:25:16.040
<v Speaker 2>if you don't, it could potentially, you know, make someone

0:25:16.080 --> 0:25:16.560
<v Speaker 2>feel bad.

0:25:16.600 --> 0:25:20.760
<v Speaker 1>You know, yeah, yeah, you know. Compassion. I think also

0:25:20.960 --> 0:25:23.680
<v Speaker 1>education is important, you know. I think once we get

0:25:23.720 --> 0:25:29.240
<v Speaker 1>more educated on what it means and you you really

0:25:29.280 --> 0:25:32.240
<v Speaker 1>have conversations with folks, you will realized you may have

0:25:32.320 --> 0:25:35.560
<v Speaker 1>more in common with them than you think. And yeah,

0:25:35.640 --> 0:25:37.640
<v Speaker 1>my hope is that That's why I love being That's

0:25:37.640 --> 0:25:39.440
<v Speaker 1>why I love music, That's why I love art, That's

0:25:39.440 --> 0:25:42.199
<v Speaker 1>why I love making it because what I'm able to do,

0:25:42.240 --> 0:25:44.159
<v Speaker 1>and what we're able to do is bring people together

0:25:44.720 --> 0:25:48.119
<v Speaker 1>and have these conversations at concerts. You're learning different things,

0:25:48.240 --> 0:25:51.200
<v Speaker 1>and you know, and I love and happy pride. I

0:25:51.240 --> 0:25:53.600
<v Speaker 1>don't know when this is coming out, but this is June,

0:25:53.880 --> 0:25:59.639
<v Speaker 1>you know. Yeah, I love that we're also in a

0:25:59.640 --> 0:26:03.520
<v Speaker 1>space where we're celebrating us unapologetically as you can see,

0:26:03.560 --> 0:26:06.480
<v Speaker 1>and sometimes that triggers and it has as we see

0:26:06.480 --> 0:26:08.360
<v Speaker 1>with the laws that are being made right now, it's

0:26:08.400 --> 0:26:12.720
<v Speaker 1>crazy against you know, my trans family and lgbtq I

0:26:12.800 --> 0:26:16.080
<v Speaker 1>plus community being a part of that community. Imagine me

0:26:16.160 --> 0:26:18.320
<v Speaker 1>not having the platform that I have and having to

0:26:18.640 --> 0:26:21.040
<v Speaker 1>sort of live in a small town and you know

0:26:21.119 --> 0:26:27.320
<v Speaker 1>everybody supports uh anti lgbt q I plus bills and

0:26:27.720 --> 0:26:31.960
<v Speaker 1>anti you know, uh trans bills and even being black

0:26:32.040 --> 0:26:35.399
<v Speaker 1>right now, you know they're taking out black history in Florida,

0:26:36.800 --> 0:26:40.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, horrible, horrible person. So you know we have

0:26:40.080 --> 0:26:44.840
<v Speaker 1>to It's serious, like respecting people's it all matters.

0:26:45.200 --> 0:26:48.560
<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's funny too because they're like like I don't

0:26:48.560 --> 0:26:49.920
<v Speaker 2>want to say there because I don't like to I

0:26:49.920 --> 0:26:51.960
<v Speaker 2>don't like to group anybody in. But a guy like

0:26:52.000 --> 0:26:58.080
<v Speaker 2>the Scantists, for example, will scream about how everything's getting censored,

0:26:58.720 --> 0:27:01.960
<v Speaker 2>like and everything's like cant culture. But then you're canceling

0:27:03.040 --> 0:27:06.679
<v Speaker 2>like yeah, like you know, like black history, like in

0:27:06.720 --> 0:27:10.639
<v Speaker 2>a state. It's kind of crazy. It's like, yeah, people

0:27:10.760 --> 0:27:13.560
<v Speaker 2>politicians are are crazy. You have Doughchi on the album,

0:27:13.600 --> 0:27:15.960
<v Speaker 2>who's one of my favorite new artists. Obviously she's cool,

0:27:16.080 --> 0:27:19.880
<v Speaker 2>she's incredible. She's from Canaba, Yes, she's a I did

0:27:19.960 --> 0:27:22.400
<v Speaker 2>radio in Tampa, so it's dope to see her doing

0:27:22.400 --> 0:27:22.800
<v Speaker 2>her thing.

0:27:22.840 --> 0:27:25.520
<v Speaker 3>But she's too and she's.

0:27:25.359 --> 0:27:28.600
<v Speaker 2>Like very high level creative. Like I saw her when

0:27:28.640 --> 0:27:30.800
<v Speaker 2>she first signed with TD. She did like this like

0:27:31.080 --> 0:27:33.600
<v Speaker 2>industry performance and it was so crazy. What was it

0:27:33.680 --> 0:27:36.000
<v Speaker 2>like working with her all of that?

0:27:36.320 --> 0:27:39.919
<v Speaker 1>Like we have kindred spirits and you know, I just

0:27:40.000 --> 0:27:42.760
<v Speaker 1>as soon as I heard her music, I loved her

0:27:42.880 --> 0:27:44.800
<v Speaker 1>and I felt her spirit. And then when we met,

0:27:45.320 --> 0:27:47.560
<v Speaker 1>she just told me how much of an inspiration I

0:27:47.720 --> 0:27:51.080
<v Speaker 1>was to her, and watching me gave her, you know,

0:27:51.280 --> 0:27:55.040
<v Speaker 1>a lot of confidence to just do her, you know,

0:27:56.359 --> 0:27:58.919
<v Speaker 1>and you see that, you see that she is somebody

0:27:58.960 --> 0:28:03.760
<v Speaker 1>who's tapped in, you know, to her innovation and what

0:28:03.920 --> 0:28:06.879
<v Speaker 1>makes her unique. And I love that about her. And

0:28:07.760 --> 0:28:09.920
<v Speaker 1>it was beautiful. We were in the studio. We had

0:28:09.920 --> 0:28:14.159
<v Speaker 1>so much fun making phenomenal like that song. Because when

0:28:14.200 --> 0:28:17.240
<v Speaker 1>I heard Persuasive, I was like, Oh I love this song.

0:28:17.359 --> 0:28:19.520
<v Speaker 1>I love it. And so when we got together when

0:28:19.520 --> 0:28:21.720
<v Speaker 1>I was working on my project, I was like, oh,

0:28:21.880 --> 0:28:26.080
<v Speaker 1>you would be perfect for this sort of song. And

0:28:26.119 --> 0:28:28.240
<v Speaker 1>I didn't even tell her. I played her like five

0:28:28.320 --> 0:28:30.040
<v Speaker 1>songs and I didn't even tell her this is a

0:28:30.080 --> 0:28:31.080
<v Speaker 1>song I want you to be on.

0:28:31.320 --> 0:28:32.440
<v Speaker 3>She heard phenomenal.

0:28:32.800 --> 0:28:36.000
<v Speaker 1>She was like, she jumped up, say hey, so she's

0:28:36.240 --> 0:28:40.720
<v Speaker 1>she's just humble, creative, a beautiful person. She came over

0:28:40.880 --> 0:28:42.920
<v Speaker 1>last night to celebrate with me. Oh nice, Yeah she

0:28:42.960 --> 0:28:44.800
<v Speaker 1>I didn't even know she was coming. She surprised me.

0:28:44.880 --> 0:28:49.240
<v Speaker 2>So that's dope for you. Did you have any idea

0:28:49.640 --> 0:28:52.520
<v Speaker 2>that you were going to break Twitter when you flashed

0:28:52.520 --> 0:28:56.400
<v Speaker 2>the crowd when perform, because you you own Twitter for

0:28:56.440 --> 0:28:57.000
<v Speaker 2>about a week.

0:28:57.120 --> 0:28:59.040
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, No, I did not.

0:28:59.440 --> 0:29:03.000
<v Speaker 1>I literally was at my friend's party, living my life

0:29:03.000 --> 0:29:06.840
<v Speaker 1>as I always do, and you know, I did not.

0:29:07.200 --> 0:29:09.760
<v Speaker 1>I was having a good time. I felt like I

0:29:09.800 --> 0:29:13.000
<v Speaker 1>was in a safe space, right, and that's it. I

0:29:13.040 --> 0:29:15.400
<v Speaker 1>was honoring exactly how I was feeling.

0:29:16.000 --> 0:29:18.200
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, because like, did you, I mean, you had

0:29:18.240 --> 0:29:20.480
<v Speaker 2>to have some sort of idea this is gonna be

0:29:20.520 --> 0:29:21.440
<v Speaker 2>on the internet a little bit.

0:29:22.240 --> 0:29:23.280
<v Speaker 3>I was very shocked that.

0:29:23.360 --> 0:29:27.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean, after after I realized that there were so

0:29:27.680 --> 0:29:30.360
<v Speaker 1>many cameras, you know, because I try not to live

0:29:30.400 --> 0:29:31.240
<v Speaker 1>my life like I'm.

0:29:31.120 --> 0:29:32.640
<v Speaker 3>Janelle Mone, there are cameras.

0:29:32.720 --> 0:29:35.920
<v Speaker 1>Let me let me not yeah, and these and the

0:29:35.960 --> 0:29:38.000
<v Speaker 1>party that I was at was the same party that

0:29:38.040 --> 0:29:40.880
<v Speaker 1>inspired my album. So I know a lot of the

0:29:40.920 --> 0:29:43.520
<v Speaker 1>people who were there, and you know, they've been to

0:29:44.120 --> 0:29:48.000
<v Speaker 1>my place and we've created a safe space with everyday

0:29:48.040 --> 0:29:52.400
<v Speaker 1>people and with Wonderland and our parties, and so it

0:29:52.440 --> 0:29:56.760
<v Speaker 1>didn't really come out until like that video was older.

0:29:57.320 --> 0:30:01.840
<v Speaker 1>It was old, so somebody was like, well, me, now capitalized,

0:30:01.880 --> 0:30:04.840
<v Speaker 1>and that's the world we live in. Let me capitalize.

0:30:04.880 --> 0:30:08.600
<v Speaker 1>Like it was, nobody posted anything safe space. And then

0:30:08.680 --> 0:30:13.480
<v Speaker 1>when they sort of saw I think my visual that

0:30:13.560 --> 0:30:17.000
<v Speaker 1>I put out, they were like, oh, well, while we're here,

0:30:17.760 --> 0:30:21.800
<v Speaker 1>I saw her last you know, last week. But it's

0:30:21.840 --> 0:30:25.800
<v Speaker 1>all love, free the nipple, free the nipple. I mean,

0:30:26.240 --> 0:30:28.960
<v Speaker 1>Rick Ross has freed his nipple. I support him.

0:30:29.280 --> 0:30:30.040
<v Speaker 2>You're right about that.

0:30:30.320 --> 0:30:33.400
<v Speaker 1>Di'angelo when he did Untitled, he was freed his nipple,

0:30:33.520 --> 0:30:36.240
<v Speaker 1>you know that from behind that piano and freed the nipple.

0:30:36.720 --> 0:30:37.760
<v Speaker 3>You know, I can go on and on.

0:30:39.480 --> 0:30:42.000
<v Speaker 1>Times, right, DJ Kallet you know we support free the

0:30:42.080 --> 0:30:43.720
<v Speaker 1>nipple right for all people.

0:30:44.320 --> 0:30:46.920
<v Speaker 2>I agree that it is a double standard that T shirt.

0:30:48.240 --> 0:30:50.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and so so it helped.

0:30:50.400 --> 0:30:52.320
<v Speaker 2>With the promotion because now everybody's like, I mean you

0:30:52.360 --> 0:30:52.880
<v Speaker 2>were trending.

0:30:53.240 --> 0:30:55.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, listen, I lived my life. I think

0:30:56.160 --> 0:30:58.480
<v Speaker 1>I never think like, ooh, this is going to get

0:30:58.480 --> 0:31:03.040
<v Speaker 1>them talking. I'm having an earth experience and of honoring

0:31:03.080 --> 0:31:03.520
<v Speaker 1>all of me.

0:31:04.320 --> 0:31:06.120
<v Speaker 3>That's it. That's all I can do.

0:31:07.280 --> 0:31:10.000
<v Speaker 2>Give me. If you're on an island stranded for three

0:31:10.080 --> 0:31:12.120
<v Speaker 2>hundred and sixty five days, you can only bring five

0:31:12.280 --> 0:31:13.680
<v Speaker 2>albums with you on an iPod.

0:31:14.480 --> 0:31:17.080
<v Speaker 1>Now stop it. First of all, an iPod. I have

0:31:17.160 --> 0:31:17.840
<v Speaker 1>not heard that word.

0:31:18.120 --> 0:31:20.840
<v Speaker 2>So you're not going to have Wi Fi island.

0:31:21.480 --> 0:31:23.480
<v Speaker 1>Here's your phone, so I have to use Well, my

0:31:23.520 --> 0:31:24.880
<v Speaker 1>iPod died though.

0:31:24.920 --> 0:31:28.760
<v Speaker 3>Though that's a okay, I don't know, right, Okay, it's

0:31:28.960 --> 0:31:32.560
<v Speaker 3>it's to keep it, keep.

0:31:32.440 --> 0:31:35.000
<v Speaker 2>It there, going to be suage.

0:31:35.480 --> 0:31:38.040
<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm definitely taking the age of pleasure because I

0:31:38.120 --> 0:31:40.760
<v Speaker 1>know that we made that project to be on an island,

0:31:40.840 --> 0:31:44.200
<v Speaker 1>to be on an island to transport me and if

0:31:44.600 --> 0:31:47.880
<v Speaker 1>I need a soundtrack to that, to to that that

0:31:48.040 --> 0:31:54.000
<v Speaker 1>experience that I want to have. Oh okay, I have

0:31:54.080 --> 0:31:59.080
<v Speaker 1>to take some prints. So maybe I'll take Purple.

0:31:58.800 --> 0:32:04.320
<v Speaker 3>Rain all right, mm.

0:32:03.280 --> 0:32:05.440
<v Speaker 1>He has so many albums. I gotta take some Stevie.

0:32:06.160 --> 0:32:07.959
<v Speaker 1>I gotta have some comfort.

0:32:07.560 --> 0:32:08.880
<v Speaker 2>Shout to Stevie.

0:32:08.440 --> 0:32:15.640
<v Speaker 1>Innervisions or Music of my Mind one of those. I

0:32:15.840 --> 0:32:25.800
<v Speaker 1>also would probably take just soundtrack. I would take mm

0:32:27.520 --> 0:32:32.040
<v Speaker 1>some Harold Bud. He has an album Harold Bud, which

0:32:32.160 --> 0:32:35.959
<v Speaker 1>is like it puts me in a super meditative space.

0:32:38.400 --> 0:32:41.480
<v Speaker 1>Oh god, this is tough. This is really really tough.

0:32:41.520 --> 0:32:43.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't even know why I'm answering this. I just

0:32:43.600 --> 0:32:45.160
<v Speaker 1>feel like I'm gonna be like, why didn't I say

0:32:45.200 --> 0:32:47.520
<v Speaker 1>that album?

0:32:47.680 --> 0:32:49.240
<v Speaker 3>What else would I take? What else do I?

0:32:49.360 --> 0:32:50.840
<v Speaker 2>What about? Give me a hip hop one?

0:32:50.920 --> 0:32:56.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh? Okay, maybe I might take.

0:32:59.240 --> 0:33:00.480
<v Speaker 3>Maybe I take the below.

0:33:00.880 --> 0:33:02.880
<v Speaker 2>Okay, speaker Box club.

0:33:03.640 --> 0:33:05.760
<v Speaker 3>That's a nice speaker box exactly.

0:33:06.360 --> 0:33:10.160
<v Speaker 1>That would take that because that's like I remember wanting

0:33:10.240 --> 0:33:16.640
<v Speaker 1>to make like music, like fun, creative. I remember that

0:33:16.920 --> 0:33:21.080
<v Speaker 1>that that helped me tap into to my own uniqueness.

0:33:21.600 --> 0:33:25.440
<v Speaker 2>You mentioned Stevie Wonder. Uh, Stevie Wonders awfully obviously a

0:33:25.440 --> 0:33:28.240
<v Speaker 2>fan of yours. When you meet Stevie Wonder, what is

0:33:28.280 --> 0:33:30.640
<v Speaker 2>that like? So like, I feel like he's got like

0:33:30.640 --> 0:33:32.200
<v Speaker 2>one of those people kind of like princes. They I

0:33:32.200 --> 0:33:33.720
<v Speaker 2>feel like they might have an aura you.

0:33:33.680 --> 0:33:36.040
<v Speaker 1>See around them for sure, for sure, if Nora, but

0:33:36.120 --> 0:33:40.400
<v Speaker 1>also very funny, such a jokester, such a trickster, will

0:33:40.400 --> 0:33:43.680
<v Speaker 1>say whatever is on his mind. I'm like, you should

0:33:43.760 --> 0:33:45.800
<v Speaker 1>let people see more of this side of you, because

0:33:45.800 --> 0:33:49.880
<v Speaker 1>people do put he I mean, his music, it's like holy,

0:33:50.160 --> 0:33:53.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, he's the blueprint for a lot of a

0:33:53.200 --> 0:33:56.880
<v Speaker 1>lot of music. But just to like m He was

0:33:56.880 --> 0:34:01.280
<v Speaker 1>on my last project, Dirty Computer, and just I recorded

0:34:01.360 --> 0:34:04.239
<v Speaker 1>him talking. We had just a conversation and we were

0:34:04.240 --> 0:34:05.400
<v Speaker 1>just talking about all the heaviness.

0:34:05.400 --> 0:34:06.480
<v Speaker 3>This is somebody who's.

0:34:06.240 --> 0:34:10.839
<v Speaker 1>Lived in multiple generations, you know, somebody who was here

0:34:12.160 --> 0:34:19.200
<v Speaker 1>pre integration and got a chance to usher in so revolutions,

0:34:19.400 --> 0:34:22.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, with his music, and he just has stories

0:34:22.040 --> 0:34:23.439
<v Speaker 1>that nobody has, right.

0:34:24.520 --> 0:34:26.279
<v Speaker 2>He probably does. There's not a lot of people who

0:34:26.280 --> 0:34:29.960
<v Speaker 2>are walking this earth through can tell stories like him.

0:34:30.000 --> 0:34:30.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:34:30.320 --> 0:34:34.000
<v Speaker 1>Just a beautiful spirit and yeah, I love him. I

0:34:34.040 --> 0:34:35.120
<v Speaker 1>love him all right.

0:34:35.120 --> 0:34:37.200
<v Speaker 2>So the album is out. Everybody go get a.

0:34:37.160 --> 0:34:39.680
<v Speaker 1>Page of pleasure. And did we talk about how I

0:34:39.719 --> 0:34:40.480
<v Speaker 1>did the album?

0:34:40.560 --> 0:34:41.279
<v Speaker 2>How'd you do it?

0:34:41.360 --> 0:34:41.720
<v Speaker 3>Okay?

0:34:41.840 --> 0:34:43.839
<v Speaker 1>So my friends that I was talking about that same

0:34:43.880 --> 0:34:47.960
<v Speaker 1>party everyday people, Yep, they could not find a spot

0:34:48.040 --> 0:34:51.399
<v Speaker 1>and so I offered our spot wonder Land in La

0:34:51.640 --> 0:34:53.560
<v Speaker 1>We have a spot in Atlanta.

0:34:53.160 --> 0:34:55.200
<v Speaker 2>And now in La creative space.

0:34:55.320 --> 0:34:59.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, creative space, you know, studio, indoor, outdoor vibes, right,

0:34:59.760 --> 0:35:03.520
<v Speaker 1>and and I offered our spot, and I was like,

0:35:03.600 --> 0:35:07.800
<v Speaker 1>let's do like maybe one hundred people test everybody is

0:35:07.880 --> 0:35:12.160
<v Speaker 1>during the pandemic and the people who are at the

0:35:12.200 --> 0:35:16.359
<v Speaker 1>party again, most beautiful brown and black people from all

0:35:16.360 --> 0:35:23.400
<v Speaker 1>of the globe, from Africa, South Africa, Ghana, Nigeria, Jamaica,

0:35:23.600 --> 0:35:28.000
<v Speaker 1>the Caribbeans, New York, LA, Midwest, like all of us

0:35:28.040 --> 0:35:32.759
<v Speaker 1>together in a safe space and in the pandemic when

0:35:32.800 --> 0:35:37.480
<v Speaker 1>you hadn't been around people reintegrating. It was just like

0:35:37.960 --> 0:35:40.919
<v Speaker 1>but it was like, oh, this is life, Like, this

0:35:41.239 --> 0:35:42.640
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<v Speaker 1>I was like, Okay, I know I want to make

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I oftentimes our safe spaces are police come in, shut

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<v Speaker 1>Play it and if people are not shazaming, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>to the interview. So you were testing out records in

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<v Speaker 1>That's what was yeah on without people knowing. And I

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<v Speaker 1>was just in the corner with a drink, like, oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And then that's I tested all my songs float, Water, Slide,

0:39:53.560 --> 0:39:56.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, Champagne, shit, Lipstick, Lover, just like that, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's just it feels really good to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>sort of have it out because I've been living with

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<v Speaker 1>it for so long, me and my friend.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like a great way to like it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's the same way like when people go try to

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<v Speaker 2>like they're in Atlanta, they go to the strip club

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<v Speaker 2>and to try to test the record. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>like you want to see how people react.

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<v Speaker 3>In time because the right people.

0:40:13.960 --> 0:40:17.239
<v Speaker 1>I got super specific about that too, because oftentimes we're

0:40:17.280 --> 0:40:19.160
<v Speaker 1>like we want everybody, and I was like, no, let

0:40:19.160 --> 0:40:22.160
<v Speaker 1>me get specific. If my friends fuck with it, yes.

0:40:22.120 --> 0:40:24.759
<v Speaker 2>It's yeah, And it's like a genuine reaction if they

0:40:24.760 --> 0:40:26.480
<v Speaker 2>don't know what it is or know that it's you.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly, You'll be able to see like an unbiased Yeah, exactly,

0:40:31.680 --> 0:40:32.319
<v Speaker 1>that's pretty great.

0:40:32.320 --> 0:40:34.320
<v Speaker 2>How many songs didn't get you Zamed?

0:40:34.840 --> 0:40:37.200
<v Speaker 1>You know, maybe a couple, you know, we will not

0:40:37.280 --> 0:40:40.080
<v Speaker 1>talk about them. We'll develop those and maybe they'll become something.

0:40:40.120 --> 0:40:42.600
<v Speaker 1>But I'm so proud of what we've been able to do.

0:40:42.640 --> 0:40:44.640
<v Speaker 1>And shout out to Nate Rocket Wonder and since A

0:40:44.800 --> 0:40:47.880
<v Speaker 1>Bueno and Nana Quapina. They were with me providing that

0:40:47.960 --> 0:40:50.960
<v Speaker 1>safe space you know, as I you know, evolve, it's

0:40:51.040 --> 0:40:53.840
<v Speaker 1>it's a you, and they kept the fun in it

0:40:53.960 --> 0:40:56.319
<v Speaker 1>because I was like, I have to make sure that

0:40:56.360 --> 0:40:59.600
<v Speaker 1>when I'm in the studio, I'm not overthinking, I'm not

0:41:00.840 --> 0:41:04.040
<v Speaker 1>thinking about everybody. I'm getting specific and I'm having a

0:41:04.040 --> 0:41:07.720
<v Speaker 1>good time. You know, the journey is just as important

0:41:07.719 --> 0:41:08.280
<v Speaker 1>as the result.

0:41:08.440 --> 0:41:10.400
<v Speaker 2>I was going to say when you record, because like

0:41:10.840 --> 0:41:13.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, you hear like certain artists just have like

0:41:13.320 --> 0:41:16.799
<v Speaker 2>hard drives of just unreleased music, and then there's other

0:41:16.880 --> 0:41:19.320
<v Speaker 2>artists who are very specific and intentional when they record

0:41:19.440 --> 0:41:21.440
<v Speaker 2>music and they take a little bit more time. Do

0:41:21.480 --> 0:41:24.040
<v Speaker 2>you like, how big is the pull up music you're

0:41:24.040 --> 0:41:26.000
<v Speaker 2>pulling from to pick to put on the album?

0:41:27.680 --> 0:41:30.239
<v Speaker 1>I didn't have like ooh, I did twenty songs. Like

0:41:30.520 --> 0:41:34.279
<v Speaker 1>I knew the sounds, right, I knew like what I want.

0:41:34.280 --> 0:41:36.960
<v Speaker 1>I knew float. I wanted that to be sort of

0:41:36.960 --> 0:41:41.160
<v Speaker 1>the cornerstone, the entry point into the album. I knew

0:41:41.200 --> 0:41:44.040
<v Speaker 1>I wanted the sounds to be super horny. This is

0:41:44.080 --> 0:41:48.719
<v Speaker 1>the age of pleasure. I knew that I wanted to,

0:41:49.920 --> 0:41:52.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, because we were listening to afrobeats at the parties.

0:41:52.840 --> 0:41:55.719
<v Speaker 1>We were listening to reggae Caribbean, we were listening to

0:41:55.760 --> 0:41:58.399
<v Speaker 1>Ama Piano. We were listening to all of that, so

0:41:58.440 --> 0:41:59.960
<v Speaker 1>that naturally seeped over.

0:42:00.160 --> 0:42:01.080
<v Speaker 3>To the sounds.

0:42:01.239 --> 0:42:04.680
<v Speaker 1>So once I knew the musical bed, I then would

0:42:04.719 --> 0:42:08.919
<v Speaker 1>take themes like Lipstick Lover, for instance, that's really really

0:42:08.920 --> 0:42:11.880
<v Speaker 1>really my life, you know, being the person either put

0:42:11.960 --> 0:42:15.480
<v Speaker 1>lipstick on somebody's neck or somebody put lipstick on my neck.

0:42:15.520 --> 0:42:17.840
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, that's a song. I looked in

0:42:17.880 --> 0:42:19.480
<v Speaker 1>the mirror, saw the Red Prince.

0:42:19.880 --> 0:42:20.399
<v Speaker 3>That's a song.

0:42:20.520 --> 0:42:21.040
<v Speaker 2>That's a song.

0:42:21.120 --> 0:42:21.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's it.

0:42:22.080 --> 0:42:24.840
<v Speaker 1>You write about those things that happened. So once I

0:42:24.880 --> 0:42:29.400
<v Speaker 1>got specific about again who it was for, how I

0:42:29.440 --> 0:42:31.840
<v Speaker 1>wanted people to feel, it was easy.

0:42:32.040 --> 0:42:34.799
<v Speaker 2>It was like water, so you'll go from just an

0:42:34.880 --> 0:42:37.160
<v Speaker 2>idea of like looking in the mirror seeing lipstick and

0:42:37.160 --> 0:42:39.799
<v Speaker 2>be like, okay, yeah, there's a song I gotta make.

0:42:40.120 --> 0:42:40.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:42:40.800 --> 0:42:44.440
<v Speaker 1>Oh well, speaking of instead of doing twenty fifty songs,

0:42:44.520 --> 0:42:47.839
<v Speaker 1>I actually have a spreadsheet where I wrote down fifty concepts,

0:42:48.280 --> 0:42:50.640
<v Speaker 1>oh between fifty and eighty concepts.

0:42:50.800 --> 0:42:53.080
<v Speaker 2>So it'll be like a spreadsheet of like ideas like that. Yeah,

0:42:53.120 --> 0:42:55.000
<v Speaker 2>you'd be like, you know what, I feel like I

0:42:55.040 --> 0:42:55.920
<v Speaker 2>can go somewhere with this.

0:42:56.080 --> 0:42:59.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like ooh, you know, she kissed me on my

0:42:59.520 --> 0:43:02.560
<v Speaker 1>neck lipstick prints. I got to write about that, you know,

0:43:02.600 --> 0:43:05.520
<v Speaker 1>I would just things that happened at the party. I

0:43:05.640 --> 0:43:08.200
<v Speaker 1>like the way that I saw him look at her.

0:43:08.560 --> 0:43:11.480
<v Speaker 1>You know that's that's a line, like I'm just going

0:43:11.680 --> 0:43:15.560
<v Speaker 1>watching everything. And you know, as Nina Simone would say,

0:43:15.600 --> 0:43:17.640
<v Speaker 1>an artist's job is to reflect the times.

0:43:18.239 --> 0:43:19.680
<v Speaker 3>And a time was had.

0:43:20.080 --> 0:43:22.440
<v Speaker 2>The time was had, it was. I mean, you've learned

0:43:22.480 --> 0:43:25.320
<v Speaker 2>from the best. Yeah, Prince and Puffy, what are we

0:43:25.360 --> 0:43:25.799
<v Speaker 2>talking about?

0:43:25.840 --> 0:43:28.000
<v Speaker 1>Okay, we talk about Grace Jones though, Let's talk about

0:43:28.000 --> 0:43:28.600
<v Speaker 1>the women.

0:43:29.640 --> 0:43:30.160
<v Speaker 3>Okay.

0:43:30.360 --> 0:43:33.239
<v Speaker 1>Grace Jones is on this project. Yeah, I mean she

0:43:33.440 --> 0:43:36.040
<v Speaker 1>taught me so much, you know, even as I'm on

0:43:36.080 --> 0:43:39.920
<v Speaker 1>my own journey of honoring all of me. You know,

0:43:39.960 --> 0:43:41.640
<v Speaker 1>she's done a lot of what I've already done in

0:43:41.680 --> 0:43:43.400
<v Speaker 1>her own way, and so it was just great to

0:43:43.480 --> 0:43:45.880
<v Speaker 1>have her in the studio. I spent seventy two hours

0:43:45.880 --> 0:43:48.440
<v Speaker 1>with her. Wow, and she recorded a lot of stuff.

0:43:48.480 --> 0:43:50.600
<v Speaker 1>And so you have her on there speaking French, you

0:43:50.640 --> 0:43:51.360
<v Speaker 1>have nia Along.

0:43:51.560 --> 0:43:53.360
<v Speaker 2>I was gonna ask the n Along that's on the

0:43:53.400 --> 0:43:54.840
<v Speaker 2>album is the nia Along me alone?

0:43:54.880 --> 0:43:59.360
<v Speaker 1>Oh? Ni Along the one and the ni Alone? Yeah,

0:43:59.400 --> 0:44:02.600
<v Speaker 1>she came over over and recorded and she always like

0:44:02.760 --> 0:44:03.400
<v Speaker 1>she's amazing.

0:44:03.560 --> 0:44:05.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I mean obviously shout out to Friday, you.

0:44:05.360 --> 0:44:09.279
<v Speaker 3>Know, yeah exactly. That helped and boys in.

0:44:09.280 --> 0:44:11.960
<v Speaker 2>The hood, I mean she's yeah, she's one of them.

0:44:12.280 --> 0:44:14.480
<v Speaker 2>She is when you're growing up.

0:44:14.880 --> 0:44:21.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, one of the leaders. Yeah for me too.

0:44:21.719 --> 0:44:24.600
<v Speaker 1>That's how I knew. I was like, oh, I'm definitely queer. Yeah,

0:44:24.680 --> 0:44:26.040
<v Speaker 1>ne A long as my girlfriend.

0:44:25.800 --> 0:44:28.000
<v Speaker 2>So did ne Along. Was she the one who made

0:44:28.000 --> 0:44:29.440
<v Speaker 2>you realize you attracted the women?

0:44:29.960 --> 0:44:34.000
<v Speaker 1>Definitely was the first. I don't know, maybe not the first,

0:44:34.040 --> 0:44:36.719
<v Speaker 1>but she confirmed it.

0:44:36.840 --> 0:44:40.520
<v Speaker 2>Son Along confirmed I could get down with checks for sure.

0:44:40.600 --> 0:44:42.920
<v Speaker 1>For me. Yeah, when I saw her, I was like,

0:44:43.160 --> 0:44:44.680
<v Speaker 1>but then I didn't know if I wanted to be

0:44:44.800 --> 0:44:47.160
<v Speaker 1>her or be with her. She's one of those people

0:44:47.160 --> 0:44:49.160
<v Speaker 1>where you look at her and you're like, I want

0:44:49.160 --> 0:44:51.759
<v Speaker 1>to be just like that. And obviously I am inspired

0:44:51.760 --> 0:44:52.120
<v Speaker 1>by her.

0:44:52.160 --> 0:44:53.920
<v Speaker 2>And which movie was it that you saw her in?

0:44:54.000 --> 0:44:54.879
<v Speaker 2>It made you be like.

0:44:55.120 --> 0:44:57.440
<v Speaker 3>Jesus boys in the hood.

0:45:00.640 --> 0:45:04.160
<v Speaker 1>And then love Jones for sure, I mean, come on,

0:45:04.840 --> 0:45:07.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, but I'm so happy to have her as

0:45:07.320 --> 0:45:11.080
<v Speaker 1>a friend and you know, like a big sister. And

0:45:11.840 --> 0:45:14.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, even went down to when I was releasing

0:45:14.040 --> 0:45:16.920
<v Speaker 1>my press photos. Before I released them, she you know,

0:45:17.000 --> 0:45:18.800
<v Speaker 1>I let her see them and she was like, oh

0:45:19.280 --> 0:45:21.360
<v Speaker 1>you should you should release that, like this is the

0:45:21.400 --> 0:45:23.719
<v Speaker 1>one you coming out the water like this is it?

0:45:23.760 --> 0:45:26.920
<v Speaker 1>So there were a lot of wonderful women from Doci

0:45:27.080 --> 0:45:31.200
<v Speaker 1>to am Marae to Grace to Nia to Sister Nancy.

0:45:30.719 --> 0:45:32.640
<v Speaker 2>Which is dope to I was gonna say, it's also

0:45:32.680 --> 0:45:35.120
<v Speaker 2>dope to see Sister Nancy because obviously Sister.

0:45:34.960 --> 0:45:38.520
<v Speaker 3>Nancy's oh jo g let's talk about.

0:45:38.360 --> 0:45:42.200
<v Speaker 2>Og in the reggae world, like, man, like what is

0:45:42.239 --> 0:45:45.480
<v Speaker 2>the Like, how do you get a hold of Sister Nancy?

0:45:46.080 --> 0:45:48.360
<v Speaker 1>I just reached out, Like who do you reach out to?

0:45:50.040 --> 0:45:52.359
<v Speaker 1>I just have my I had somebody on my team

0:45:52.360 --> 0:45:56.480
<v Speaker 1>who knew her nephew, and then we got in touch

0:45:56.520 --> 0:45:58.319
<v Speaker 1>with her. And when I got on the phone with her,

0:45:58.960 --> 0:46:01.120
<v Speaker 1>she knew a lot about me and I was like, what,

0:46:01.840 --> 0:46:04.440
<v Speaker 1>I love you, and I just her story is so cool.

0:46:04.560 --> 0:46:06.440
<v Speaker 1>You know her during the time that she came up,

0:46:07.040 --> 0:46:11.799
<v Speaker 1>reggae DJ's were not for women. Reggae dj specifically women

0:46:11.840 --> 0:46:15.520
<v Speaker 1>who DJ during that era were not really accepted, you know,

0:46:15.600 --> 0:46:18.000
<v Speaker 1>they were told Her family told her to go do this,

0:46:18.160 --> 0:46:19.839
<v Speaker 1>you need to be doing this, and she was like, no,

0:46:20.320 --> 0:46:22.480
<v Speaker 1>this is what I'm gonna do. And now you can't

0:46:22.480 --> 0:46:24.560
<v Speaker 1>go to a house party or a reggae or party

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<v Speaker 1>in general without playing Bomba.

0:46:26.200 --> 0:46:27.680
<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say. She was one of also, like

0:46:27.719 --> 0:46:30.600
<v Speaker 2>one of the most sampled songs ever ever.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah you can.

0:46:31.920 --> 0:46:34.080
<v Speaker 1>And so to get her to do some original stuff

0:46:34.680 --> 0:46:37.600
<v Speaker 1>was just like just the dream come true, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And so, yeah, well, the body of work is out, Yes,

0:46:41.200 --> 0:46:43.719
<v Speaker 2>go stream it, go download, and go buy it. I'm

0:46:43.760 --> 0:46:45.359
<v Speaker 2>sure you got some crazy merch. Is it out?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, merch? Go to JMA dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>I need tours on the way tour.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I'll be touring the end of August through the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of October.

0:46:56.400 --> 0:46:56.680
<v Speaker 3>We are.

0:46:56.920 --> 0:47:02.799
<v Speaker 1>We are all North American tours right, tour stops now, and.

0:47:04.719 --> 0:47:06.080
<v Speaker 3>I haven't announced Europe yet.

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<v Speaker 2>Are Do you know who you're taking on the road

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<v Speaker 2>with you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still picking because I'm going to do some opening

0:47:11.840 --> 0:47:14.080
<v Speaker 1>acts in different markets, all the people that I love.

0:47:14.160 --> 0:47:16.719
<v Speaker 1>Yet I think Jideo may do some dates as well,

0:47:16.840 --> 0:47:22.640
<v Speaker 1>so it'll be great. It's gonna feels it's a movement, movement.

0:47:23.080 --> 0:47:25.640
<v Speaker 2>The theaters are TV screen soon that that you have

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<v Speaker 2>in the in the pipeline.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm working on a TV show about the Josephine Baker,

0:47:32.840 --> 0:47:35.600
<v Speaker 1>who was also an inspiration is also an inspiration for

0:47:35.680 --> 0:47:38.520
<v Speaker 1>me in her time as a spy during the French resistance.

0:47:38.560 --> 0:47:40.040
<v Speaker 1>A lot of people don't know, like they see the

0:47:40.040 --> 0:47:43.960
<v Speaker 1>banana skirt and you know, obviously she was super liberated

0:47:44.040 --> 0:47:46.560
<v Speaker 1>and she had moved to France because America wouldn't even

0:47:46.640 --> 0:47:48.120
<v Speaker 1>let her perform in some of the clubs.

0:47:48.160 --> 0:47:49.480
<v Speaker 2>And I'm not even I don't know who that is.

0:47:49.520 --> 0:47:50.040
<v Speaker 3>You don't know who.

0:47:49.960 --> 0:47:55.279
<v Speaker 1>Josephine Baker, Oh my god, like the freest spirit, you know,

0:47:55.520 --> 0:47:58.400
<v Speaker 1>doing that for the French resistance. But she was an

0:47:58.480 --> 0:48:03.600
<v Speaker 1>incredible performer. Mister chaining artists, Yes, beautiful.

0:48:04.640 --> 0:48:05.120
<v Speaker 3>While being a.

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<v Speaker 2>Specially are you playing her?

0:48:06.719 --> 0:48:11.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm going to play her, So I'm excited. I'm ready. Yeah,

0:48:11.200 --> 0:48:11.960
<v Speaker 3>it's gonna be great.

0:48:12.280 --> 0:48:13.960
<v Speaker 2>Have you as a streaming network?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well we're partnering with A twenty four.

0:48:17.160 --> 0:48:21.600
<v Speaker 2>A twenty four they did, they do and uncut Gems

0:48:21.640 --> 0:48:24.840
<v Speaker 2>and yes, by the way, Moonlight one of my favorite movies,

0:48:24.920 --> 0:48:27.239
<v Speaker 2>like ever, such an incredible movie.

0:48:27.360 --> 0:48:29.480
<v Speaker 3>My first movie was that, Like did.

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<v Speaker 2>You understand like being in that movie? How one? It

0:48:33.239 --> 0:48:36.600
<v Speaker 2>obviously was critically acclaimed, but it also felt like a

0:48:36.719 --> 0:48:39.400
<v Speaker 2>very important step in the kind of just like normalizing

0:48:40.320 --> 0:48:43.840
<v Speaker 2>like being gay kind of like in the urban community

0:48:43.840 --> 0:48:46.080
<v Speaker 2>a little absolutely, like did you realize that when you

0:48:46.080 --> 0:48:47.200
<v Speaker 2>guys were filming that movie?

0:48:47.360 --> 0:48:49.280
<v Speaker 1>When I read the script, you know, it just brought

0:48:49.320 --> 0:48:51.839
<v Speaker 1>tears to my eyes just thinking about how so many

0:48:51.880 --> 0:48:56.480
<v Speaker 1>people were going to be seen that that probably would

0:48:56.520 --> 0:48:59.959
<v Speaker 1>never have imagined anybody telling their story, you know, from

0:49:00.120 --> 0:49:03.319
<v Speaker 1>the ghettos of Miami to Atlanta, you know, deep down

0:49:03.360 --> 0:49:06.320
<v Speaker 1>south around the world, like little black boys would would

0:49:06.320 --> 0:49:09.160
<v Speaker 1>feel seen. And it was just great to be an ally,

0:49:10.960 --> 0:49:13.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, playing an ally in the in the film

0:49:13.440 --> 0:49:15.640
<v Speaker 1>as Teresa. A lot of people I can't tell you

0:49:15.719 --> 0:49:17.480
<v Speaker 1>the number of people that come up and like, because

0:49:17.480 --> 0:49:22.120
<v Speaker 1>of Teresa, I know how to be an ally and

0:49:22.160 --> 0:49:25.520
<v Speaker 1>be supportive to my younger you know, sibling or cousin

0:49:25.760 --> 0:49:29.640
<v Speaker 1>or you know, younger person in my life. And so yeah,

0:49:29.680 --> 0:49:31.759
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know that it was gonna It just meant

0:49:31.800 --> 0:49:34.040
<v Speaker 1>something to me, and so I'm happy it meant something

0:49:34.040 --> 0:49:37.200
<v Speaker 1>to a lot of other people because there right, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I got yeah film a movie, movie of the year

0:49:42.000 --> 0:49:44.040
<v Speaker 1>or what do you call it? Is it? And the

0:49:44.160 --> 0:49:48.120
<v Speaker 1>war goes to Best Picture. Yeah that was a whole debacle.

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<v Speaker 1>But we don't even go into that because remember they

0:49:50.760 --> 0:49:52.839
<v Speaker 1>called somebody else and then we.

0:49:52.760 --> 0:49:54.640
<v Speaker 3>Had to go up and get them off. Yeah.

0:49:55.880 --> 0:49:57.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you get one of those at home.

0:49:58.280 --> 0:49:59.560
<v Speaker 3>No, unfortunately.

0:49:59.680 --> 0:50:02.160
<v Speaker 2>But you know, I always wonder how that works, because

0:50:02.160 --> 0:50:02.440
<v Speaker 2>I know.

0:50:02.360 --> 0:50:03.560
<v Speaker 3>It's in my heart. I don't know.

0:50:04.160 --> 0:50:06.600
<v Speaker 2>I think they're going to start giving like engineers and people.

0:50:06.360 --> 0:50:07.280
<v Speaker 3>Like as they should.

0:50:07.520 --> 0:50:09.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like if you're in the movie.

0:50:10.560 --> 0:50:15.200
<v Speaker 3>Come on oscars, send me my the writer and the director,

0:50:15.440 --> 0:50:16.400
<v Speaker 3>the director.

0:50:16.680 --> 0:50:19.640
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes I think the producer. I don't know, I need

0:50:19.680 --> 0:50:23.600
<v Speaker 1>to like check listen, it'll give me something.

0:50:23.480 --> 0:50:25.080
<v Speaker 3>More, you know what.

0:50:25.280 --> 0:50:27.680
<v Speaker 1>Actually, if I get one or if I don't I

0:50:27.719 --> 0:50:30.719
<v Speaker 1>love the work like I love I love me. Even

0:50:30.719 --> 0:50:34.040
<v Speaker 1>if Moonlight never got nominated, I'm so proud that was.

0:50:35.120 --> 0:50:37.919
<v Speaker 2>They put out some amazing content. Beef Beef was them right.

0:50:38.160 --> 0:50:41.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I haven't seen Beef pretty Will, but everything everywhere

0:50:41.480 --> 0:50:42.160
<v Speaker 1>all at once.

0:50:43.040 --> 0:50:44.919
<v Speaker 2>That one definitely the best movie.

0:50:46.040 --> 0:50:48.000
<v Speaker 3>Change like that changed the game.

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<v Speaker 2>So good.

0:50:49.000 --> 0:50:49.759
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, good, all right.

0:50:49.840 --> 0:50:52.120
<v Speaker 2>I appreciate you coming through, Thank you for having go

0:50:52.160 --> 0:50:54.840
<v Speaker 2>get the new album. Looking forward to everything else you

0:50:54.840 --> 0:50:56.399
<v Speaker 2>got coming on the way toward coming soon.

0:50:56.680 --> 0:50:58.760
<v Speaker 1>All that good, all right, good to see you too.

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