1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks with Daniel, Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: What's up everybody? Welcome to Move the Sticks, presented by 3 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: Zaxby's DJ. Bucky. Back with you, Buck. How you doing man? Man? 4 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: Everything is good, no complaints over here. Life is good 5 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:17,600 Speaker 1: watching ball. You gotta work out in. You gotta work 6 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: out in this morning. When we got oh I did, 7 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: I got one in earlier though, we get a bike. 8 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: We gotta run what we're doing. No, no, just to bike, 9 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:25,799 Speaker 1: just to bike bike for forty five minutes, just just 10 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: running around, just trying to get the heart of you 11 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: know YEA forty five will do that for you. I 12 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 1: love the bike, but I'm like a thirty minutes is 13 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 1: my sweet spot. Man. You know, started a little bit 14 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:39,599 Speaker 1: uncomfortable on the backside and yeah yeah, hop off this thing. 15 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: So for me mostly is uh forty five to sixty. 16 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: Sometimes I take multiple classes. Um, I just missed running, 17 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 1: and every time I run, Man, my freaking knees and 18 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: my ankles her. So so I've had getten like the 19 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: bike master. I think you'll find it though, because I 20 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: started doing the bike thing this year and then now 21 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: when I run, my knees feel better. I don't know 22 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: if it's if it's strengthen us some muscles around your 23 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: knee joints, or if it's just all placebo effect. But 24 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: I've convinced myself that now I don't it doesn't hurt 25 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 1: when I run like it used to. Yeah, I mean, 26 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:13,199 Speaker 1: maybe maybe I need to do that. I've been lifting 27 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: weights and everything. It's the final frontier. I think I'm 28 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 1: gonna swap out my shoes and see if if I 29 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 1: can find a new set of shoes to kind of 30 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: get the runt. I know no one wants to hear 31 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: about our running on our workout woes. We won't talk 32 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: about no, No, I think I think the people are 33 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: interested in that. We're gonna have. We're gonna have fun 34 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 1: conversation today. Talk a little bit about what's going out 35 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: in the NFL, but also want to touch on the 36 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:34,639 Speaker 1: big tent kicking off and what we saw from Justin 37 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: Fields in that game. You know, his first contest, first 38 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:40,199 Speaker 1: chance to see him. We know what Trevor Lawrence has done. Um, 39 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: Trey Lance, his one game season is coming gone, So 40 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: we can mix Justin Fields into that conversation. So I'm 41 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: looking forward to that. Um, we want to get to 42 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: a little bit from last night. But I had I 43 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: had a funny story I wanted to tell you first. 44 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: I don't know why I haven't told you this story, 45 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: but I was just going through some of my old notes. 46 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: We'd like to keep track of all these leadership notes 47 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: that we have listen different podcasts. We've had a lot 48 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: of great guests on this show here. But I was 49 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: going back through and I found the story is so good. 50 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: So Jesse Itzler is a entrepreneur. He's uh, he's his 51 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: wife is a woman who owns founded and owns spanks 52 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: like the company. Yeah yeah, so yeah, and so he's, um, 53 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:21,399 Speaker 1: he was I want to say net jets is what 54 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: what he did? Like he uh was part of that 55 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 1: group anyways, wildly successful guy and he but he actually 56 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: started out he was a rapper. So he's a white 57 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: rapper coming up. He had his song which was shake 58 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 1: It Like a White Girl. That was his song. Do 59 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: you remember that song? I do not remember this nineties. 60 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: This is like early nineties, right, So then he's gone 61 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: on to become this this uh was very popular entrepreneur. 62 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: So anyway, he's telling this story. I saw him speak 63 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: of this leadership conference, and he was talking about how 64 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 1: he was coming up. He was just had that one 65 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: single and there was a big there was just this 66 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 1: big blowout concert gonna be in Atlanta and it is 67 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: about kind of the city coming together and kind of 68 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: a difficult time. So they're gonna have, you know, taking 69 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: different artists to come together and do this concert. So 70 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: Vanilla Ice was supposed to do the concert. Obviously, you 71 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: know Vanilla Ice. So Vanilla Eyes backs out the last minute. 72 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: So they called Jesse, can you come in? This is 73 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: like next day. You're kind of local, so can you 74 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: come here. He's like, yes, I'll get there. So he 75 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: gets there and uh, he's like sitting there waiting back 76 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:26,679 Speaker 1: behind stage and it's just they left the lights on 77 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: in the auditorium or whatever. So it was just a 78 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 1: weird kind of a vibe and the crowd was not 79 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: getting along well. So then artists after artists came up 80 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: there and they were getting booed off stage. So he said, 81 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: he's super nervous. He calls his mom. He goes, Mom, 82 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: I don't know what to do. LLL cool J. This 83 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: went on and they just they're booing, their NonStop booing him. 84 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: That's LLL cool J like, what are they gonna do 85 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: to me when I get up there? And she's just like, 86 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: I don't know what to tell your son, and that 87 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: couldn't give him any advice. So he said, you gotta 88 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: think on your toes. So he finished, he said, all right, 89 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: next up and I don't even remember what his stage 90 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: name was, but so Jesse Jesse comes up. Uh. So 91 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: he comes out on stage. He brings his box of 92 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: merch that he was going to sell after the show. 93 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: So he comes out on stage with a box and 94 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:11,839 Speaker 1: he starts taking T shirts and just firing, who wants 95 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: a shirt? You over here? Throws all it, empties his 96 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: whole box of merchandise he planned on selling. Empty the 97 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 1: whole box into the crowd, and he said, once I 98 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 1: threw my last T shirt, I said, thank you very much. 99 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 1: Salt and Pepper's up next, and I got out. That's 100 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: a great laughing I just had. I was going to 101 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: all these leadership notes and I've got these college coaches, 102 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 1: NFL coaches, general managers, and then I had that story there. Oh, 103 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 1: I gotta tell the story, crowd your roll man, No, hey, no, yeah, 104 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: I know what I'm not. That is hilarious. That's funny, 105 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: all right. We just seeing the game last night, Buck, 106 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: I mean, the game last night was pretty good. I think, Um, 107 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: we're the point of year where team should crystallize and 108 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:01,799 Speaker 1: terms of their identity and how they want to play. 109 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 1: And I would say I was very impressed by the 110 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 1: way that L. A. Rams played on both sides of 111 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: the ball offensively. Sean McVeigh is back to being the 112 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: magician when it comes to the deception and pulling rabbits 113 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: out the hat. Uh. They have gone back and fully 114 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: leaned into the jet sweep motion that they did a 115 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: few years ago when he was when he burst onto 116 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 1: the scene. And the thing that makes it so difficult 117 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 1: when they're using the jet sweep or fly sweep action, 118 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: they will run to the motion, they'll run away from 119 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:32,359 Speaker 1: the motion. They will throw to the side of the 120 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: motion they're throw away from it. They've added movement based 121 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: bootlegs and passing game to come with it. And so 122 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 1: from the defense, all of that, I Candy kind of 123 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: leaves you paralyzed and it makes it very difficult for 124 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 1: you to figure out who's the who's the edge setter, 125 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 1: who's the leverage player. If we're in Man, Do we 126 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 1: want to play Man? Do we want to play Zone? 127 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: You play Zone, and it makes it easy for Jerry 128 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 1: Golf to just pick you apart. If you play Man, 129 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: you're susceptible to some of the uh food leg action 130 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: and also the running game. And so he has really 131 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:07,359 Speaker 1: done a good job of embracing that creativity and in 132 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: the way they do the pre snap stuff while still 133 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: retaining the physicality of the running game and really setting 134 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 1: the game up whale for Jerry gud We're always trying 135 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: to think outside the box, right, some things have been 136 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: done the same way, and we see innovation take this 137 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 1: league by storm, and you know we saw it. You 138 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: know when think about when Chip Kelly first came into 139 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 1: the league, how nobody was prepared for that had some 140 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: success early on, and now teams have adopted that. Now 141 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 1: we're seeing this trend with a lot of the jet 142 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: motion stuff that you're talking about. I started thinking about 143 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 1: if you think outside the box. We always have had, 144 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: you know, you coach a position. You know, maybe we 145 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 1: have a run game coordinator, pass game coordinator, But why 146 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 1: can't you think outside the box and go out and 147 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: try and find a creative mind In college maybe it's 148 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: a position coach or what have you, and say you 149 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: are going to be our shift coach. I said, you 150 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 1: are shifting motion guy. Yeah, I have one for you. 151 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: The Pittsburgh still is MC Canada. Yeah. Mcnada has given 152 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 1: them that. If if you go back and you look 153 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: at his history, he was a guy that really was 154 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 1: all about the jet sweep fly sweep action. UH. At Wisconsin, 155 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: I told you I saw him the Big Ten Championship game. 156 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: Melvin Gordon ran for two hundred plush yards on fly sweeps. 157 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: UM is Melvin Gordon and James White, and they be 158 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: the breaks off Wisconsin seven. I mean to be the 159 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: breaks off of Nebraska's seven. It put a seventy burger 160 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: on him. UM. He did the same thing at Pittsburgh 161 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: when they knocked off Clempson when they were number one. 162 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 1: He was the offensive coordinator. And so he's been able 163 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: to utilize some of that and some of the stuff 164 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: that you see from them a lot more pre snap 165 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: window dressing, uh, particularly down in the red zone near 166 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: the goal line when they used Chase Claypool as their 167 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: fly sweep runner. And so we have seen that. I 168 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: think what you're seeing from the Carolina Panthers. It hasn't 169 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: necessarily hit it on a national scene, but they're mixing 170 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: in some some tempo, some of the stuff that they 171 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: were doing in New Orleans when Joe Brady and Teddy 172 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: Bridge watered together, and they're having that and I completely 173 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: agree Cliff Kingsbury. You talked about the coaching clinic that 174 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: he put on Sunday night, one to two minute drill, 175 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: But to me, what was most impressive the ability to 176 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: get in and out of tempo. And I think the 177 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: best way when I've talked to defensive coordinators, Dave said 178 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: that the challenges now when people play all fast all 179 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: the time, because you can adjust to that, you can 180 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: set up a game plan for that, but when they 181 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: jump in and out of it, man, it just keeps 182 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: you on your toes because you never know when they're 183 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: gonna repeat a play or they're gonna keep your that 184 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: package on and they keep you on for four or 185 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: five plays in a row. We've seen quarterbacks do that, 186 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees will sometimes, but the 187 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 1: way that Kingsbury is able to kind of jump started 188 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 1: offense at a moment's notice with the quarterback who's a 189 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: perfect fit for what he wants to do. Yeah, the 190 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: innovation from the college game, I think definitely deserves to 191 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 1: be explored and really tapped into. And we talked before 192 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 1: the season started about a little bit of a trend 193 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 1: of taking, you know, defensive coaches putting them on the 194 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:56,599 Speaker 1: offensive side of the ball. Offensive coaches put them on 195 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball so they could work together. 196 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: And I'm thinking like, in an instance like this, if 197 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: you had somebody, if you take you take a you know, 198 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 1: somebody that's a defensive coach, that's coach on the defensive 199 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:08,839 Speaker 1: side of the ball his whole life, and you had 200 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: somebody that just during the week was responsible for priests, 201 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: snap shifts, motions, and how to manipulate what you get 202 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 1: out of them. You can be able to ping pong 203 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: off of each other and say, okay, if we line 204 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: up like this, but then we shift to this, you 205 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 1: know where could defensively you be vulnerable in this scheme. 206 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:26,559 Speaker 1: You know what inside out how you react to different 207 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 1: alignments and shifts and motions and be able to creatively 208 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 1: kind of collaboratively come up with with the game plan 209 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 1: that way, I think, you know, I go back to 210 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: the baseball thing we talked about. With baseball has gone 211 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: more towards collaborative leadership from the front office. It's not 212 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 1: just one person, it's five or six guys that work 213 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: together and trust each other. Man. I almost think some 214 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,719 Speaker 1: of this stuff having offensive coaches and defensive coaches kind 215 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: of separated. Man, I think the teams that are smart 216 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 1: gonna be able to add on to those staff and 217 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: have those lines kind of blur a little bit where 218 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: they are really working together. Yeah, I think so, And 219 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,439 Speaker 1: I think it has to be one of those deals. 220 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: And I think, especially early, I think young coaches should 221 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: try and coach on both sides of the ball. I 222 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: can tell you just from my my playing experience, um, 223 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 1: playing offense, but then going to defense, I didn't know 224 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: the game fully until I had a chance to go 225 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: on to the other side. And the things that you 226 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 1: think the defense is doing on offense, when you get 227 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:21,559 Speaker 1: on defense, you find out like, oh, they're not even 228 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: thinking about that at all, Like that has nothing to 229 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: do that has nothing to do with the coverage. And 230 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 1: so I just think for a full comprehensive understanding, I 231 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: think you should challenge yourself in that vein I think 232 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: even you know, like to take this to the scouting world. 233 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: But I think we have seen some teams use their 234 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:42,319 Speaker 1: scouts as coaches for a little bit then bring them back. 235 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 1: The Patriots have been famous for being able to do that. 236 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:46,959 Speaker 1: I think Brian Flores has done that. Nick Cesario Um 237 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 1: has gone and been a coach and come back. I 238 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 1: think it does give you a different perspective. And I 239 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 1: think with all of that, when you talk about collaborative leadership, 240 00:10:55,920 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 1: the more you exposed to Um, the more perspective if 241 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 1: you have. And I think he can make you a 242 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:05,959 Speaker 1: better expert at that little aspect that you're really trying 243 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 1: to have a high level of expertise at. Yeah, I mean, 244 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:12,319 Speaker 1: I just I think sometimes we just get hung up 245 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: on your receivers coach for thirty years, and you're a 246 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: DBS coach for thirty years, and then there's just you know, 247 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 1: you kind of stay in your own room and you 248 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 1: coach your own guys. But I think you can learn 249 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: a lot from from working across the aisle for lack 250 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: of a better term, Yeah, And I think so. And 251 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: that's why I'm fascinated by the Raheem Morris situation in 252 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: Atlanta because he went from being a respective defensive coordinator 253 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: to being a wide receiver coach, last pass game coordinator 254 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: to now he's back as the defensive coordinator and the 255 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: interim head coach. That's a lot of different things the 256 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 1: guys that we've seen do that Tom Landry, like Tom 257 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: Landry did that. Tom Landry went from being a defensive 258 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: back to a defensive coordinator to a head coach and 259 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: an offensive play caller for the Dallas Cowboys. I mean 260 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 1: that's old school perspective in terms of being able to 261 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: really understand the game. And as we continue to go 262 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:04,439 Speaker 1: out and think about hey coaches, Hey, coaches have to 263 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: be able to solve problems. And if you're trying to 264 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 1: put yourself in that track, man, the more that you've 265 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: been exposed to, the better should prepare you for when 266 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: you are a head coach and bringing some of those 267 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 1: innovations into the building. We're always coming up with different 268 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 1: ideas for for research to help us out here. So 269 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:21,719 Speaker 1: when these ideas come to our head, I like just 270 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: getting them out and then we can put them on 271 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 1: the research department to see what they can come up with, 272 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 1: because I'd be curious to know if we looked at 273 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: games that were kind of one score games, right, so 274 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 1: you go into halftime one score games and then look 275 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 1: at the point differential in the second half of those games. 276 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: To me, now you get a sense for who can adjust, 277 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 1: who can figure out and solve problems as you go 278 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: into the second half? Um, and who can't? You know, 279 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:50,679 Speaker 1: think who are the teams that have leads going to 280 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 1: the end of the half and then can't be able 281 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 1: to adjust to the adjustment per se. I was just 282 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: thinking about that because you look at like the Jets, 283 00:12:57,480 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 1: you come into that game that four yards and second 284 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 1: half we talked about the other day four yards. Yeah, 285 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: I mean, and so what did Buffalo do. Buffalo came 286 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: out and said, we're gonna play man, and we're gonna 287 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:08,079 Speaker 1: we're gonna blitch you like crazy and force you to 288 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: try and communicate and pick things up. And the Jets 289 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,199 Speaker 1: couldn't do it. Um, So to me, I would. I 290 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:14,839 Speaker 1: would just be curious about that because I'm talking about 291 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: preparing for a game, but man being able to adjust 292 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 1: in game, to me, that's where you find a good stuff. 293 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: So here here's what's funny. DJ have a bunch of 294 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:26,199 Speaker 1: conversations with coaches about this. Obviously, UM as high school coach, 295 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: I'm always curious to see what others do. UM and 296 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: I'll lean on two guys that we know and know 297 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 1: very well. One is in battle, but one UM is 298 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: still highly respected. One is Dennis Thurmont. So Dennis Thurmant 299 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 1: and I talk all the time, and DT told me 300 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: that the guys who are the best at halftime adjustments 301 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: have already made their adjustments before the game, meaning that 302 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: in their head they have a plan A for how 303 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: this game is going to plan out play out. But 304 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 1: they also have a plan for a if we get 305 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: in trouble, where can we get in trouble at If 306 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 1: we have a trouble trouble here A let's have a 307 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: tentative backup game plan already ready to go, and so 308 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 1: we'll go to our adjustments here. Mike Nolan, when he 309 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: was working with us at at NFL Network, he also 310 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: told me, Yeah, you don't go in like you don't 311 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: go in at halftime and into twelve minutes. You just 312 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 1: pull something out of the sky and say, hey, this 313 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: is how we're going to adjust. He said, those things 314 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: are thought about during the week. Now, you may not 315 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 1: communicate those things to the players, but as a staff, 316 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 1: you've talked about Ay, if they're giving us problems with 317 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: the running game, what is our what is our backup thing? 318 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: What is the third option or whatever. Dennis told me 319 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: something that was interesting. He said, every team, every coordinator 320 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: should have a binder on the sideline, which is their playbook. 321 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: And he says, some of the things that you touch 322 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: on in training camp you may not ever touch on again, 323 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: but in a game, you may have to go to 324 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: the book and show the players. He remember, in training 325 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: camp we talked about this tactic. We may have to 326 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 1: use it today because they're showing is something that we 327 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 1: hadn't prepared for. So hey, everyone take a look at it. 328 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: Almost like the big book. Everyone take a look at 329 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: remember the pictures. Okay, this is Oh yeah, coach, we 330 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 1: got it. Okay, so we're gonna go to it. And 331 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: so it should be a very thought out process. I 332 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 1: think Bill Watts used to talk about a the novelty 333 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 1: of having someone drawn up in the dirt is great, 334 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: but the great ones never drawed up in the dirt. 335 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: The great ones have already thought about it and then 336 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: they put it up. So it may seem like an 337 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 1: improvise reaction, but it's something that's been thoroughly baked out 338 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: and cooked up so that the guys can adjust. Oh 339 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: that's great, yeah to me again, just part of your preparation. 340 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 1: But but being able to see what you see and say, Okay, 341 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: this is not working. We knew that was a chance 342 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: that could happen. Let's go, let's go to this this 343 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: other game plan that makes a lot of sense. By 344 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 1: the way, you can check out DT on our prototype series. 345 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: We did that prototype series. We went through every position 346 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: and showed you how, um you know, how we try 347 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: and scout those positions by bringing a bunch of great 348 00:15:57,640 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: guests to help us out. And DT was on the 349 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: corner the dB conversation we had which was Corners and 350 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 1: Safety's NFL dot Com slash MTS prototype. You can find 351 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 1: that whole series if you missed it. Um, all right, 352 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 1: buck the game we hit on the game last night, 353 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: we hit on these adjustments. Let's jump down to the 354 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 1: college game because I want to get your thoughts on 355 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 1: on what you saw a big ten kicking off. Um. 356 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: I know rhet was fired up about the Indiana beaten 357 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: Penn State in that game, but I think scout are 358 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: more curious what's going on with the Ohio State, particularly 359 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 1: with the quarterback. Yeah, I mean, I think I think 360 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: all eyes are on Justin Fields. Um. And this reminds 361 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: me a little bit of a race, a track and 362 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: field race, maybe the four hundred, so into four hundred 363 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: because of the distance you have to stagger to lanes. 364 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: I feel like for Justin Fields, Trevor Lawrence has been 365 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: in lane five four. So Trevor Lawrence is already out there, 366 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: he's taken off, he's running, and so Justin Fields has 367 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 1: to figure out is there a way for me to 368 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: make up the stagger? And so against Nebraska was his 369 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 1: first opportunity to begin to maybe close the gap a 370 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 1: little bit on usin on Trevor Lawrence. And I'll say this, 371 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: these guys have forever been linked together. From high school. 372 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 1: They were always number one and number two with both Scott, 373 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 1: both guys flipping times as number one or the number 374 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 1: two guys, and I think it would continue to be 375 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 1: that way. Trevor Lawrence is a fantastic prospect, but I 376 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: think Justin Fields is also a fantastic prospect. Against Nebraska. 377 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: I mean to do is twenty twenty one. He's very efficient. 378 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: He showed that he could run the ball and do 379 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:28,880 Speaker 1: all the things that you want to see the athletic 380 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: quarterback do in today's game. And the connection that he 381 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 1: had with two of the receivers that are higher state. 382 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,719 Speaker 1: You had two receivers go over a hundred yards. He 383 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 1: was dialed in. I mean, look, I think how your 384 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:43,439 Speaker 1: State certainly kept practicing during this time, and I felt 385 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 1: like the sharpness that we saw from him was a 386 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 1: reflection of that compared to what we saw from trade 387 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 1: Lance where they said it was kind of stop start, 388 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 1: they didn't do it the whole time. I felt like, oh, 389 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: how you stay practiced the entire time and they didn't 390 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:58,159 Speaker 1: skip a beat when they got a chance to get 391 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 1: on the field and that included aston fields. Yeah, I 392 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: know it was. It was impressive. You go back and 393 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: watch the tape some of the things I just wrote down. 394 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 1: You see obviously the size of the athletic ability, the physicality, 395 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 1: the velocity was outstanding, really pushing the ball outside the 396 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 1: numbers of some big time throws there. The accuracy, the 397 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:19,640 Speaker 1: ball placement that the accuracy was was good. The completion 398 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:21,439 Speaker 1: centers off the charts, even on the one that was 399 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:23,439 Speaker 1: that was incomplete. It was actually dropped. It was a 400 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 1: good throw. He forced one got bailed out by a penalty. Um. 401 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 1: But but overall I thought the actually was good. The 402 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 1: ball placement. At times, you know, you can nit pick 403 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: him and say I had this shoulder that shoulder, But 404 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: I mean, gosh, the guy shouldn't have had an incompletion 405 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: the entire day, So you feel good about that. Um. 406 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 1: The The interesting thing is number one is there of 407 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 1: the time. So when he gets to the top of 408 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 1: his drop first read in the progression, he's open, ball's gone. 409 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 1: When number one wasn't there, I thought he looked to 410 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 1: run a little bit, which is fine, go make a play. 411 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 1: And then I thought he held the ball a little bit, 412 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 1: so to me, like that would be if you're gonna 413 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 1: say he was more accurate than Trey Lance in that game. Absolutely, Um, 414 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 1: both similar athletes. They both run the run the ball 415 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: really well. Trey Lance ran I think for a buck 416 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 1: fifty and a couple of scores in that game. So running, 417 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: let's make that kind of a little bit differ. Think 418 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 1: Trey Lance is more physical, Uh, fields a little bit faster, 419 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: but a wash both is gonna help you in that regard. 420 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: I thought that trade lance advantage for him was just 421 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 1: you see him kind of work through progressions. Now he 422 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:26,199 Speaker 1: has some misfires in that game, no doubt, but I 423 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: think you see him just work through things a little 424 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 1: bit differently, uh than Fields does. The overall thing that 425 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: I circled down at the bottom though, was these guys, 426 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 1: all three of these guys, expand your playbook. There's nothing 427 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: you can't do. I mean, you can expand it. You 428 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 1: can move him around. Fields has the best throw of 429 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:46,959 Speaker 1: the year. I thought it was the catch got all 430 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 1: the attention for being able to get the toe down 431 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:50,640 Speaker 1: in the back of the end zone. But he's rolling 432 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 1: all the way to the right. He's got to throw 433 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 1: that kind of back to the middle of the end 434 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 1: zone and it's caught with unbelievable footwork to get up 435 00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 1: to get a foot down for the score. But man, 436 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: it was I can throw to be able to make 437 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: that type of throw. So I'm looking at that this 438 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 1: is where the NFL is going and and be excited 439 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 1: about it, and we can spend that. We're gonna spend 440 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:11,360 Speaker 1: the next months trying to separate this versus this, that 441 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 1: versus that between these three quarterbacks, any of the teams 442 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:16,440 Speaker 1: get these three guys are gonna be happy because they 443 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 1: can do anything you want to do and expand your playbook, 444 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 1: you know. D in DJ. I think this is a 445 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: situation where we will see that these guys go one, 446 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 1: two and three if they all come right. I just 447 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 1: think it's one of those situations one, two and three 448 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:32,400 Speaker 1: and we'll assume that Trevor Lawrences one. But I really 449 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:34,679 Speaker 1: think it's one two in three. And I think whoever 450 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 1: it takes gets, whoever is going to be satisfied with 451 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:39,199 Speaker 1: the quarterback that they get, and they're just going to 452 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:42,679 Speaker 1: have to build around them. Um. It's a fascinating discussion 453 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: and conversation because, um, I think a lot of the 454 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 1: debate will center on Fields and Lance as opposed to 455 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: Fields and Lawrence. I think we'll pin it feels like 456 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: Lawrence is kind of in his own world right now. 457 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:58,360 Speaker 1: We're kind of fighting it out for number two and 458 00:20:58,359 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: and And the other thing is that we've got the 459 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 1: b Yu kid kind of hanging out in the background here. 460 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 1: Who's Jay A lot of buzz He's good? Yeah, like Zach, 461 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 1: I gotta do him. I haven't looked at it me 462 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: and so I gotta stay he's good and the sense 463 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 1: that he has some of that that athleticism stuff and 464 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:17,880 Speaker 1: the armed talent and look by U plays rocking sock 465 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 1: and football. Now they hit you in the mouth and 466 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 1: they're physical and they're tough, and he embraces the toughness. 467 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 1: He has good receivers on the outside, UM that can 468 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 1: make plays. It's unfortunately right now the way their schedule is. 469 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 1: I think there's a downtown and the schedule they won't 470 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 1: you won't get challenged as much. But the traits and 471 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:36,360 Speaker 1: all this stuff is there. I think I think we're 472 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 1: talking about four guys that could be first round probables. 473 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 1: I don't know if there's another one that could jump 474 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 1: in there, but I definitely think Zach Wilson is certainly 475 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 1: in that conversation as the first round talent. Yeah, it's 476 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 1: gonna be fun, um to watch these guys as we 477 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 1: go through. But I mean, do you feel like it Buck, 478 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 1: We we've talked a little bit about this, UM. I mean, 479 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: I just I don't see the pocket passer surviving. Look 480 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 1: at the last two we've had, right, the last two 481 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: pure pocket passers. Tell me if I'm missing somebody, but 482 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 1: are really Josh Rosen and Dwayne Haskins. Those are the 483 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 1: last two pockets. Cars hasn't worked out now it hasn't 484 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 1: worked out. And some of the reasons that we're pointed 485 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,199 Speaker 1: out in the run up to the draft and did it, 486 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,120 Speaker 1: Like everybody loved how both of those guys could throw 487 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: from a clean pocket, Like when the pocket was cleaned, 488 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 1: they can throw from the grass. You know that ain't 489 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,679 Speaker 1: give anymore. But but once he got muddied and a 490 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 1: little um junkie and cloudy in the pocket, Yeah, it 491 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: makes it very, very tough because you don't have the escapability. 492 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 1: And I think what everyone is looking for with every 493 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 1: coach is looking for someone that can make you right. Um, 494 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 1: when you have a guy that can erase your poor 495 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: play calls like you can live to play another day. 496 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: And what those mobile athletic guys can do is they 497 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 1: can make you right even when you call the wrong play. 498 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 1: I mean, we can talk about Josh Allen. Josh Allen 499 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 1: can make the Buffalo Bills right sometimes by running around 500 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 1: and making them play, whether it's a scramble or scramble toss. 501 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: They can do that. Lamar Jackson, you create things you 502 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 1: can do it. I'm looking at Kyler Murray and Russell 503 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: Wilson play and Justin Herbert, Justin Hurt, like everybody, Joe Burrow, 504 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 1: like that is the way. That is the way of 505 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,920 Speaker 1: the world right now. And if you don't have one 506 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:17,199 Speaker 1: of those guys that can run around and create an extend, 507 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:18,959 Speaker 1: it just puts a ton of pressure on you as 508 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 1: a play calling And that's why I'm really curious to 509 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 1: see what eventually happens with Baker Mayfield. Um. Baker Mayfield 510 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 1: has been kind of sold or packaged as one of 511 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 1: those guys, but from an athletic standpoint, that's not really 512 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 1: who he is. And so um, when you make the 513 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 1: comparison about the pure pocket guy, they have been surpassed 514 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 1: by the athletic playmaker and the pocket. I think it's 515 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: important to clarify when we talk about the athletic playmaker, 516 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: I'm not talking about the run first quarterback. What I'm 517 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 1: talking about is a quarterback that can deal from the pocket. 518 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 1: Plus he's a he's a playmaker. Plus he can he 519 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 1: can throw it from the pocket if he's cleaning, he 520 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,119 Speaker 1: can pick your part that way. But he all so 521 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 1: gives you maybe the quarterback run game, maybe the ability 522 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 1: to get on the edge on the bootleg passing game 523 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 1: and be a legitimate threat. Maybe he can extend plays. 524 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 1: That is what every offensive coordinator, head coach wants now. 525 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 1: They want that guy that can do it inside and 526 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 1: outside the pocket. Yeah, I just man it. Uh, creative. 527 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 1: I think it's kind of one of those words that 528 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 1: whenever really heard in the quarterback evaluation process, right, accuracy, poise, 529 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 1: decision making. I don't know that creativity you know, or 530 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 1: you know, playmaking. To me, like there's a greater emphasis 531 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 1: on that now than at any point time since we've 532 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:42,679 Speaker 1: been scouting. Yeah, it's dead. And also the minds that 533 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 1: are calling the plays. We're seeing guys with a different 534 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 1: level of experience calling plays. The creativity tapping into the 535 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 1: college game, Uh, taking a player where he is and 536 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 1: expanded upon what those things he displays as a college player. 537 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 1: How can we mix that in with what we have? 538 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 1: And the game is shifting that way, not only because 539 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 1: of the quarterbacks, but because of the way the game 540 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 1: is played at the lower levels. You have these wide 541 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 1: receivers who have never necessarily run the four route tree, 542 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: and so you can't expect them to in a year 543 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: or two come in and do these old school, intricate routes. 544 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 1: It is better to meet them where they are. And 545 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 1: so a lot of these guys that used to what 546 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 1: do we call it, grab grass a go five grass 547 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 1: it down. A lot of guys grew up in that 548 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,679 Speaker 1: high school and college and so that's what they used to. 549 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 1: And so you can make a decision. I'm gonna I'm 550 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 1: gonna take the time to develop them or I'm gonna 551 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 1: meet them where they are and I'm gonna hope that 552 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,879 Speaker 1: they can grow and expand to where we want them 553 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 1: to be. Um, I was speaking of quarterbacks. How about 554 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,360 Speaker 1: the guests we have coming up tomorrow? Uh? So excited 555 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,119 Speaker 1: about that. For a long time, I think he was 556 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 1: alone in the conversation as the goat. I think Tom 557 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 1: Brady changed things over the last couple of years. But Uh, 558 00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 1: Thursday's episode, I say tomorrow, Thursday's episode, We're gonna Joe 559 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 1: Montana on the show. Couldn't be more fired up about that? 560 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 1: Good yet? Man? He is He is the guy that 561 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 1: everybody talks about as a prototype, and not necessarily because 562 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 1: it's his physical stature, but because he was an ultimate 563 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 1: winner and he was an ultimate winner in key situations. Uh, 564 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: two minute drills, we saw him too minute drills and 565 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl against Cincinnati, being was calmly cool. He 566 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,360 Speaker 1: led his team down the thing, and he saw him 567 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: do it over and over. I can tell you haven't 568 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,119 Speaker 1: spent time in Kansas City. Right after he left. He 569 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 1: left an impact on the organization in terms of what 570 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: they expected from the quarterback and how they expected the 571 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 1: quarterback to be able to get it done a certain situations. 572 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 1: So yeah, he's the goal standard of quarterback place. It 573 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 1: would be great to talk to you. I want to 574 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,120 Speaker 1: talk to him about that about going to Kansas City 575 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: you're at. You come from a place where you've done 576 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 1: nothing but win big and go to a place where 577 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:49,479 Speaker 1: you're trying to get over that hump. Now, he got 578 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 1: him in the postseason, had success. I didn't get a title, 579 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 1: but I think that he brought some of that accountability 580 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,439 Speaker 1: with him there that changed it. And to me, you 581 00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 1: look at Lebron and where he's gone and what he's 582 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 1: done at the different spots he's been with the accountability 583 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 1: that he brings. I think Tom Brady is another, you know, 584 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,360 Speaker 1: a great example of not only getting the player it's 585 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,400 Speaker 1: that they kind of bring the culture with him. When 586 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 1: you have somebody of that magnitude, they absolutely bring the 587 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 1: culture with them. They set the standard. When you hear 588 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 1: Tom Brady talk in Tampa, he talks about a we 589 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,160 Speaker 1: haven't done anything yet. We gotta get ready for next week. 590 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,400 Speaker 1: Whatever we just did on Sunday doesn't matter. We gotta 591 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 1: focus in. And I think because he is a guy 592 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 1: that is so focused on continuing to improve, it makes 593 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 1: it harder for other guys to kind of take a 594 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 1: deep breath when they have notable account accomplishments. Is raising 595 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 1: the level of play, and a great quarterback can do that. 596 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 1: A great quarterback with winning experience in particular, can change 597 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 1: the way that everybody goes about their business. And for 598 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:51,880 Speaker 1: most teams, they would tell you it is a lot 599 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,879 Speaker 1: helpful when your best player is the quarterback who is 600 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 1: also your hardest worker, because then it changes the standard 601 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 1: and raises the expectations for the work ethor that everybody 602 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,719 Speaker 1: in the building is disupposed to it to display. All Right, 603 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 1: last question before we roll out of here. I'm just 604 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 1: curious on this. We've got Ravens Steelers coming up this week. 605 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 1: I think the most physical game of the year when 606 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 1: those two teams get together. As a player in the NFL, 607 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 1: what was what was the physical matchup every year that 608 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 1: you had on the calendar. Was there one in the 609 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 1: division where you said, Okay, we know this is gonna 610 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 1: be Uh, it's gonna be rockham sockerm So there too. 611 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 1: And it's funny that you brought up the Ravens Steelers. 612 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 1: Whenever I was at any team and the Steelers came 613 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,440 Speaker 1: to town, it was always a conversation at the meeting, 614 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 1: Hey still doesn't come to time, bring you big boy pass? 615 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 1: Like that's kind of the thing that they created. Uh. 616 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 1: In terms of a rivalry game being on both sides 617 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 1: of the Kansas City Raiders, rivalry was something from Kansas 618 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 1: City standpoint, we it was raided week. We always felt 619 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 1: like we owned them, our physicality would wear them down. 620 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 1: From the Raiders standpoint, it was always using Kansas City 621 00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 1: as the measuring stick and making sure that we could 622 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 1: rise up to their level of play. Um, those games 623 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 1: are memorable though, Uh in Green Bay, I think the 624 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 1: Green Bay Chicago game would kind of qualified as that 625 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: physical game. But man, those games are memorable because you 626 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 1: love those games. To me, I equate everything to playoff 627 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 1: football because it's that they win to go home mentality 628 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 1: and when that urgency comes. Man, you talked about the 629 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 1: big hits, so for the Ravens and still I can't 630 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 1: wait to watch it. Man, you being on that raven side, 631 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 1: What what was that like? Because I know that was there, 632 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 1: but also the Tennessee Titans for a while was also 633 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 1: kind of that game. Yeah. I mean I actually talked 634 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 1: about this with Chris Fowler an interview with him. If 635 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 1: if you missed, if anybody missed that, go check it out. 636 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 1: It was It was fun to talk with him. But 637 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 1: he was talking him about the difference in the college 638 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 1: game in the NFL game, and I said, I remember 639 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 1: my brother came out to visit when I was first 640 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 1: work in the NFL, work with the Ravens, and he 641 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 1: came down there on the field of my field past 642 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 1: before the game. It's Raven Steelers. So the warm ups 643 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 1: end and he's getting ready to start heading towards the 644 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 1: tunnel to go back up to a seat. Sounds like no, no, no, no. 645 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 1: I said, stay down here for the first series. So 646 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 1: you stay down there on the field for the first 647 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 1: series and see how physical and how fast. That's a 648 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 1: different deal. Now, I mean that that was that was 649 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 1: Bart Scott and Ray Lewis and Hindes Ward and I 650 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 1: mean Joey Porter all those dudes like that. That's different. 651 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 1: That just it looks different. And man, when you get 652 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 1: down there and field and you know what, haven't played, 653 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 1: but it sounds different in those games. Oh DJ, That's 654 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 1: that's what everyone lives for. And it's funny, right because 655 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 1: sometimes on the outside you can't understand the division games 656 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 1: and how man, how can this team beat this They 657 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 1: haven't beat anybody else. But it's a rivalry game and 658 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 1: it just raises the stakes and so everyone knows, like 659 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 1: in practice it's a little fast, just a little crisper. Uh. 660 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 1: There's more urgency uh demanded by the coaches. The players 661 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 1: also kind of understand that. And so with this game 662 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 1: coming up, I think it's about which team is going 663 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 1: to impose their will on the other team. The Pittsburgh 664 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 1: Steelers right now are viewed as maybe the best team 665 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 1: in the a f C. And so you know, the 666 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 1: Ravens want to have something to say about that. So, yeah, 667 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 1: that that physicality and toughness, I can't wait. It's it's 668 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 1: musty TV. I'm surprised it's not a prime time it's 669 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 1: not the prime time game this week. I don't know. 670 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 1: It's a shame that it should always be a prime 671 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 1: time Sunday. They're both gonna get off the bus blitzing 672 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: because this year their number one and number two in 673 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 1: the NFL in terms of blitzer right. I think it's 674 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 1: percent for the Ravens for the Steelers. Um So, now 675 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 1: they're gonna get off the bus blitz and it's gonna 676 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 1: be aggressive, it's gonna be fun um So, you know, 677 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 1: I think I think it's funny that you bring up 678 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 1: the blissing thing, right So, because for the Pittsburgh Steelers, 679 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 1: they've been known as blitzberg in the past, but this 680 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 1: year is a little different. Before it was always zone dog. 681 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 1: They were blitz and bring and have three deep three 682 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 1: under zone coverage. But now they're a little more man 683 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 1: demand and that has been a huge change for them 684 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 1: in the Mike tom Lane era because they have tried 685 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 1: man They just wung to miss a number of times 686 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 1: at cornerback that could play man demand, and it appears 687 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 1: now they finally have the right um situation in rotation 688 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 1: and then with Baltimore. Baltimore has always been a very aggressive, creative, 689 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 1: come after your team and with wing Martin deal and 690 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 1: getting those guys. And I can't wait to see how 691 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 1: they utilize Yannik and got Way, how they bring him 692 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 1: into the fold. Because you have Matt, you don you 693 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 1: have Kale's campbell, you now have in Gockway. You talk 694 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 1: about being able to heat him up to get some 695 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 1: one on one situations five minute pressure package at Wink 696 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 1: Mortondale's disposal now is absolutely ridiculous. And look, Roethsberg has 697 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 1: played better than he did against Tennessee. Against Tennessee, they 698 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 1: won't beat the Ravens. So um, he usually has a 699 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 1: way of kind of rising up to the occation when 700 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 1: they when they face ball team. But he's gotta played better. Yeah, 701 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 1: he's a different He's a different cat this year DJ 702 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 1: because he's playing small ball. It's all horizontal, it's all 703 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 1: quick rhythm passing is get the ball to the playmakers. 704 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 1: The keep in my mind for the Baltimore Ravens, can 705 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 1: they tackle in space? Can you get ju Ju Deonte Johnson, 706 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 1: James Washington and Clay Chase Claypool. Can you get them 707 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 1: to the ground when you have one on one tackles 708 00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 1: because they're living off the yak and the rack. And 709 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 1: then the second thing will be can you continue the 710 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 1: running game? Um? And I think for Pittsburgh is they're 711 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 1: gonna bless the snot out of Lamar Jackson in the 712 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 1: run game. And so when they do that, Ken, Joe 713 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 1: Hayden and those guys on the outside, hold up one 714 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 1: on one because I think they're gonna say I mean, 715 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna sell out and absolutely trying to 716 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 1: obliterate whatever they do at the mesh point. That's that's 717 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 1: the recipe, and we just have to see how what 718 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 1: it looks like, no doubt, Ravens coming off and bye 719 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 1: and that one too, so they'll be rested and ready 720 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 1: to go. Stealers coming off a very physical win over 721 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans. So we'll get into that game a 722 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 1: little bit more as well as some of these other 723 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 1: top games on the next episode, which by the way, 724 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 1: is going to feature Joe Montana. Can't wait for that one. 725 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 1: Anything else you want to have before we jump out 726 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 1: of here? Buck, No, man, I'm excited. I'm excited to 727 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 1: have Joe Montana. It would be great here we go. 728 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,239 Speaker 1: Can't wait for it. Thank you guys for checking us 729 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 1: out today. UH encourage you to subscribe. 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