1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: Put away any preconceived notions of meditation. Every time you 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: sit to meditate, remember that it's not about stopping thoughts. 3 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 2: It's not about trying to have a quiet mind. 4 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: It's about witnessing the mind and seeing the mind more clearly, 5 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:16,159 Speaker 1: and getting comfortable with the mind when it's quiet, the 6 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 1: mind when it's busy, when there's lots of thoughts. 7 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 2: When there's no thoughts. 8 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: So having that kind of clarity, I think that gives 9 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: us a real sense of freedom in life. 10 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 3: Twenty twenty one, Here we are Emily Aboudi. Here you are. 11 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 4: Listening to a special five day series called in Focus 12 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 4: from Hurdle, a wellness focus. 13 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 3: Podcast where I sit down with. 14 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 4: Inspiring individuals to talk about everything from their big wins 15 00:00:56,320 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 4: to how they've gotten through some of life's toughest moments. 16 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 3: Show you can. 17 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 4: Expect vulnerability, motivation, and candid discussions with everyone from top 18 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 4: athletes to aspiring entrepreneurs on what it really takes to 19 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 4: follow your passions. My mission is simple to inspire you 20 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 4: to be your best self, move with. 21 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:20,759 Speaker 3: Intention, and have some fun along the way. Now, if 22 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 3: you've been following. 23 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 4: Along at home leading into the new year, I had 24 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 4: some really awesome conversations last week with past guests including 25 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 4: Jess Linden, coach Chris Bennett, Jess Sim's Rigel jury, and 26 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 4: Sadie Lincoln about how they managed the past three hundred 27 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 4: and sixty five days and what their biggest takeaways were. 28 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 4: This week of a show, I felt it was really 29 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:46,559 Speaker 4: important to continue my mission to help hurdlers sort through 30 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 4: the chaos that is the start of a new year, 31 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 4: setting new goals what some may refer to as resolutions, 32 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 4: and really break down. 33 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 3: Some of the most popular topics. 34 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 4: You know, I can't tell you how many time the 35 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 4: ball has dropped it in my head. I have thought 36 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 4: to myself, this is the year I'm gonna be better 37 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 4: at meditation, or this is the year I'm going to 38 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:08,679 Speaker 4: hydrate more, or this is the year where I'm gonna 39 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 4: run X amount of miles and this amount of time and. 40 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 3: Get really smart and swistent. I know you can relate. 41 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 4: So this week on the show, I am talking with 42 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 4: top experts to unpack the tips and tricks that you 43 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 4: need to actually stick with your goals this year and beyond. 44 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 4: I am kicking off the in Focus series. I'm so 45 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 4: excited to say this with my friend Andy Puttagum. 46 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 3: He is the founder and the voice of Headspace. 47 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 4: He says the best in today's episode, The best way 48 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 4: to experience meditation is to actually do it, which sounds 49 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 4: so simple, but behind myself have seriously struggled at making 50 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 4: this a priority over the last few years. 51 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 3: I feel like, you know, there's a lot. 52 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 4: Of stigmas that's around meditation, Like we feel like we're 53 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 4: supposed to be doing it a certain way. 54 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 3: It's supposed to look a certain way. 55 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 4: My legs should be crossed, and I should be sitting 56 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 4: at a special little pillow, and I should be compor calm, 57 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 4: and nothing else should be going on, like I. 58 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 3: Can keep going forever. But the truth is it doesn't 59 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 3: need to look any sort of way at all. 60 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 4: And that is what Anthy and I are hashing out 61 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 4: in today's episode. I love what he has to say 62 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 4: about his best practice tips for implementing meditation into your 63 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 4: regular routine. I also love what he has to say 64 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 4: about the benefits of this practice, which may finally encourage 65 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 4: you to stick with it on the regular. 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I am sitting down. 128 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 5: I'm so elated to be saying this with my good friend, 129 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 5: the founder, the voice of Headspace, Andy Pudicom. 130 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 3: How you doing today, Andy. 131 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,559 Speaker 2: Hi, Emily, I'm very well. Thank you. How you doing? 132 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 3: I know I'm doing pretty well too. 133 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 4: You know, we're on the brink of this new year. 134 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 4: We have this clean slate. How do you feel about 135 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:11,239 Speaker 4: setting new year's goals. 136 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an interesting one. 137 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 1: I think this year, more than perhaps any other year 138 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: in memory, everyone's sort of desperate to say goodbye to 139 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: the year past and to maybe look ahead to something new. 140 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: And it's an interesting one through the lens of mindfulness, right, 141 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: kind of where we're sort of encouraged to be more present, 142 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: not really sort of looking forward or looking back. I 143 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: don't really I don't do a lot of kind of 144 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: New Year's resolution setting, you know, is a truth, not 145 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: because I don't think it's useful or important. I think 146 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: it can be incredibly helpful, but I try and think 147 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: of it more on I don't like to wait something 148 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: happens in January. 149 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 2: I don't want to wait. 150 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: Until the next New Year to make a resolution to 151 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: change that. I try and think of it in it 152 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: on a daily basis. So at the end of every day, 153 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: kind of what went well, what may me happier, what 154 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: made the people around me happier, Let's do more of that? 155 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: What kind of made me unhappy, what made the people 156 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: around me unhappier, Let's do less of that. 157 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 2: And I tried, really. 158 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: Trying and do that on a daily basis so when 159 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: it gets to the end of the year, it doesn't 160 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: feel like I've got a big bag of resolutions that 161 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: I need to kind of make to carry into the 162 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: next year. But I think they can be the intention 163 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: that thing is is really really. 164 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 3: Important, a big bag of resolutions. I like that. I 165 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 3: like that visual. 166 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 4: Okay, So for the individuals that are focused on making 167 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 4: mindfulness a more regular part of their routine, making meditation 168 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 4: a more regular part of their routine, where would you 169 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 4: suggest that they even begin. 170 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:42,679 Speaker 2: So, look, there's. 171 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: A a few options one, there's not just a few 172 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: options now, there are many many options in the world. 173 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: You know when we when we started only ten years ago, 174 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: there weren't any other options, at least not on your phone. Now, 175 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 1: I think kind of there's something in excess of five 176 00:08:55,880 --> 00:09:00,040 Speaker 1: thousand different apps out there, and there's you know, centers. 177 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:03,839 Speaker 2: And all kinds of different places you can go. I'm 178 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 2: a little bit biased. I think headspace is a great 179 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 2: place to begin, especially. 180 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 1: If you haven't done any sort of meditation before, if 181 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: you've taken a long break from your practice and you're 182 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: looking for a friendly, accessible way to get back into it. 183 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: And then of course we've got our our new show 184 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: coming out on Netflix. 185 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, talk to me about the show. 186 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 1: So my hope is that that will be a way 187 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: more direct way for people to kind of get into meditation. 188 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:33,319 Speaker 1: If it's something they haven't that exposure to in the past, 189 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: if it's something kind of new they want to try, 190 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: you can do it in the privacy of your own home, 191 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: on the sofa on the floor whilst watching Netflix. Maybe 192 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: it's a break in other programming. Maybe it's something that 193 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 1: you're choosing to do just to feel better. But we 194 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: were chatting with Netflix working on actually a different show, 195 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: and the pandemic began, and we started to talk about 196 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: as a team, like what can we do that would 197 00:09:57,800 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: be helpful to people that we could actually serve up 198 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: to folks in their in their own homes. We knew 199 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: we could see from the data Headspace that folks were 200 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: struggling with stress, with anxiety, with sleep. 201 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 2: You can see all those numbers kind of increasing. 202 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: Okay, so is this something we can put together that 203 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: folks could watch at home. So you know, you know 204 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: we've you've used You've used Headspace. We've always used a 205 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 1: lot of illustration, We've always used a lot of animation. 206 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: There was no way that we could film anything live 207 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,679 Speaker 1: during the pandemic. So we thought, okay, well let's get 208 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: to work on putting together an animated series, and the 209 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: team have done an amazing job. There's eight episodes, all animated, 210 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: with I hope a combination of it's not meant to 211 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 1: be educational, you know that there is an element of 212 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 1: being guided through an experience and actually having a go 213 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:49,559 Speaker 1: at meditation in each show, but there's also some kind 214 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: of personality to it there. I like to think of 215 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 1: it as a sprinkling of the spring thing of the Himalayas. 216 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 1: So taking my experience from from the monastery and actually 217 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 1: bringing some of those stories is that that I sort 218 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: of benefited from over there and weaving those through the 219 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: through the episodes. 220 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:09,839 Speaker 3: So is there an animated Andy Boudigum. 221 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 2: Do you know? I don't know, there might be. I 222 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 2: think they tried to stay clear of it. Actually we 223 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:20,079 Speaker 2: did chat about it. 224 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:22,839 Speaker 1: I mean, Sesame Sesame Street went a different way and 225 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 1: our partnership with Sesame Street they did. They went all 226 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: out and they gave me a little animated character to 227 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: to chat to Cookie Monster with. But in this one, 228 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: we didn't want to make it, you know, it's it's 229 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: always a really interesting balance. It's the show's not about me, 230 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 1: and so we didn't want to kind of like bring 231 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 1: it in in that way. It's more kind of about 232 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 1: the experience and the wisdom that I learned from from 233 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:47,439 Speaker 1: my teachers and kind of trying to convey that through 234 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: sort of illustration animation. 235 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 2: So I think that the guys have struck a really 236 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 2: good balance. 237 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 3: I think that'll be awesome. I'm excited to see it. 238 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 5: I'd love to I'd love to kind of bring it 239 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 5: back a little bit to maybe some more kind of 240 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 5: best practice tips that you have for someone that is 241 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 5: trying to get into that at home meditation practice, maybe 242 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 5: an environmental tip or a tip to alleviate judgment as 243 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 5: you go on. 244 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, all good ideas. 245 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 1: I mean, look, there are a ton but here are 246 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:22,959 Speaker 1: something I think of the most useful, same time, same place. 247 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: So there's some basic behavioral psychology kind of involved here. 248 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: If we are able to repeat something that feels beneficial 249 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: in some way on a regular basis, then over time 250 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 1: we start to have an association with that place in 251 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 1: the house or with that place in our living space, 252 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 1: and at a particular time linking it with something that 253 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: you already do. So if in the morning you, let's say, 254 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: have a share every day, I'm. 255 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 2: Assuming ross people do or have a cup of. 256 00:12:57,440 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 1: Coffee feet or breakfast. You think, okay, breakfast to meditate 257 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 1: sharer and meditape. So in linking it with something with 258 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 1: a pre established routine, you're that much less likely to 259 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: forget it. 260 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 2: You're that much more likely to do it. 261 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 1: Otherwise it just becomes another thing on the to do 262 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: list other things. I think if you do it first 263 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: thing in the morning, look be flexible. Some people are 264 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 1: morning people, some people are evening people, some people are neither. 265 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 1: But I think if you can do it first thing 266 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: in the morning, it means you get it done, rather 267 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: than waking up and trying to do it while still 268 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:35,439 Speaker 1: horizontal in bed. I recommend getting up, go to the bathroom, 269 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: open the window, splash a bit of cold water on 270 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: your face, maybe even have a drink. Make sure you're 271 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: properly awake. That way, you're less likely to fall back asleep. Similarly, 272 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 1: if you try it lasting at night, try and do 273 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 1: it sitting up if you can. Again, if you're tired, 274 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 1: you're lying in bed already, there's a really good chance 275 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:53,839 Speaker 1: you're going to fall asleep. Not the end of the world, 276 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 1: but maybe not the doesn't make for the best meditation session. 277 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,559 Speaker 1: Maybe don't do it immediately after a heavy meal, when 278 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: all of the the blood rushes to the stomach, our 279 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: body tends to feel very heavy, and so we're kind 280 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: of more likely to fall asleep. But all of those 281 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: kind of practical tips, I would say more important than 282 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 1: any of those is kind of the way we approach 283 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 1: the practice. So by that, I mean that the attitude 284 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: we bring towards it. So I'd say put away any 285 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: preconceived notions of meditation. Every time you sit to meditate, 286 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: remember that it's not about stopping thoughts. It's not about 287 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: trying to have a quiet mind. It's about witnessing the 288 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: mind and seeing the mind more clearly, and getting comfortable 289 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 1: with the mind when it's quiet, the mind when it's busy, 290 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: when there's lots of thoughts. 291 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 2: When there's no thoughts. 292 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: So having that kind of clarity, I think that gives 293 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: us a real sense of freedom in life. And then 294 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: with that attitude, I think remembering that, yeah, that the 295 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 1: mind has always thought. 296 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 2: Just because we are sitting down now and. 297 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: We're calling it meditation, Why should the mind suddenly stop thinking. So, 298 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: don't beat yourself, don't give yourself a hard time, don't 299 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 1: think that you're doing something wrong if the mind is 300 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: still busy when you sit to meditate, I be kind 301 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 1: to yourself. 302 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 3: We need that, we all need a little bit of grace. 303 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 5: I think that for many of us in twenty twenty, 304 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 5: just this concept of dealing with hard stuff and things 305 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 5: not necessarily have been how we had hoped or gone 306 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 5: how we had hoped for someone that kind of is 307 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 5: just really going through it and they sit down to meditate, 308 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 5: and that mind it's just so clouded with everything that's 309 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 5: going on, aside from putting aside the judgment, like what 310 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 5: do you say to that person to just help them 311 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 5: stick with it? 312 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, there were a lot of different analogies 313 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: you can kind of use with meditation. I think one 314 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 1: a lot of people are familiar with is maybe sort 315 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: of going to the gym and maybe kind of we 316 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: haven't trained for a few. 317 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 2: Years, maybe we've never trained before. Well, we would never. 318 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 1: Go to the gym and do one day of you know, 319 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 1: walking for half an hour on the treadmill and say, okay, 320 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: well this doesn't work. I'm no fitter than I was 321 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: when I came in. We would say, okay, well, I'm 322 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: going to stick with this for a few months, hopefully 323 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: at least, and sort of see how I feel over 324 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: that time. 325 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 2: Same thing is true for meditation. 326 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: Know that there is no quick fix here like a 327 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 1: mind and a body that has been living through all 328 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 1: the stresses and strains of twenty twenty. And it's been 329 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 1: different for everybody. Some people are definitely at the extreme 330 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 1: end that takes time to kind. 331 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 2: Of let that go. 332 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: But whilst we might feel sort of fearful of knowing 333 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: that the alternative is so much worse, the alternative is 334 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: holding on to all of that and sort of carrying 335 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: that around with us in our life, and. 336 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 2: At some stage that has to come to the surface. 337 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 1: So far better that we create an environment where we 338 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: can gently let go of that, thinking of those emotions, 339 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 1: of the tension that we've been storing up, and hopefully, 340 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: as I said, going into next year, feeling a little 341 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: bit lighter. 342 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:06,360 Speaker 5: Aside from the actual act of meditation. What else in 343 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 5: your life is a mindful practice for you? I know 344 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 5: for me, something like running or cooking or journaling. What 345 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:16,640 Speaker 5: are what are activities that you indulge in that are 346 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 5: that are more mindful than you as well as enjoyable. 347 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 1: Yes, So, I mean, one thing I'd say is that 348 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 1: every single moment in the day is. 349 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 2: An opportunity to be mindful. 350 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 1: There are exercises and activities that I think sort of 351 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 1: encourage us to be more mindful, and that a more 352 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 1: conducive to a mindful sort of attitude. But I yeah, 353 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: I think it's really important to remember kind of that 354 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:41,199 Speaker 1: we can do it at any point, even if we're 355 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 1: at work and we're engaged in something that we don't 356 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:46,160 Speaker 1: necessarily kind of want to be like, it's still possible 357 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 1: to be mindful even if it's of our resistance to 358 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 1: that activity. 359 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 2: But on my. 360 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:55,719 Speaker 1: In my sort of you know, own time, surfing for 361 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 1: sure is still a big sort of I want to say, 362 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:01,120 Speaker 1: it's a big feature of my I don't do it enough, 363 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,479 Speaker 1: but it's something I love to do and something that 364 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 1: feels innately mindful. There is there's the aspect of being 365 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 1: out in nature away from everything, and there's also just 366 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 1: a sense of being like immersed and connected with the 367 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:19,400 Speaker 1: world around also being free from any sense of control 368 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:21,160 Speaker 1: as well. If you go into the ocean and think 369 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 1: you have any control over what's happening out there. I 370 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 1: think it's a risky it's a risky move. 371 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 2: So I love to surf. 372 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 1: I still love to run, I love to cycle, I 373 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 1: love to row. So a lot for me, a lot 374 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 1: of it is very sort of physical activity. But when 375 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:38,399 Speaker 1: I'm with my kids as well, whether it's a bit 376 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: of music, a bit of art, it's at quite a 377 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:44,919 Speaker 1: kind of basic level for me personally. But like, engaging 378 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 1: in those things definitely gets me out of my thinking mind. 379 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 1: It makes me feel more grounded, and inevitably I'm better 380 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:56,400 Speaker 1: able to connect with other people around me, And. 381 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 5: I think that's really special, just this idea of being 382 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 5: full present during these activities. It's there's such a difference 383 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 5: of being with your kids and being fully present versus 384 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 5: being with your kids between eighteen things and not giving 385 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 5: that activity your specific attention. Like it doesn't take any 386 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 5: more or less time to do an activity and be 387 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 5: fully present. 388 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 3: So it's like, take advantage. 389 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: Of that right, and it makes a difference to the 390 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: way we feel. It makes a difference to the way 391 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 1: the other people feel like children in this case, and 392 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: they know by the way I mean I think as 393 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 1: I think sometimes yeah, they they don't really kind of 394 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: noticing what we're doing kind of on our phones in 395 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:45,199 Speaker 1: between every two other sentence, and but they do know, 396 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:48,400 Speaker 1: and they do notice. And my own experience, and I'm 397 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 1: I'm not suggesting, by the way, for a moment that 398 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:54,959 Speaker 1: I do this perfectly, because I definitely don't. And there 399 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: are definitely times when I catch myself and there's work 400 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:00,119 Speaker 1: emails and texts coming in and I'm trying to a 401 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,719 Speaker 1: conversation and kind of over breakfast with the kids. 402 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 2: But I think it's something for us all to aspire to. 403 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:08,160 Speaker 2: For sure, What. 404 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:11,400 Speaker 3: Are you excited about in the new year. 405 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 1: I'm always quite excited at see and quite optimistic just generally. 406 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 1: I don't know why, I just partly maybe is the 407 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 1: training over the years, I tend not to spend a 408 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 1: lot of time looking back or thinking back in a 409 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 1: negative way. I'm really grateful for the experiences that I've had, 410 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 1: and you know, of course I go back to those 411 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: those memories sometimes. But I love I love the idea 412 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: of stepping into the unknown, and for me kind of 413 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 1: going into twenty twenty one, it's not because there's something 414 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 1: specific I'm excited about I'm excited because I don't know 415 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 1: what's going to happen, and I feel like so much 416 00:20:55,240 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: of mindfulness, of practices, a willingness to be vulnerable, of 417 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: being okay with uncertainty in not knowing, And for me, 418 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,479 Speaker 1: that's kind of I guess the embodiment of that is 419 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,640 Speaker 1: sort of just stepping into something new without really kind 420 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 1: of knowing, but just willing to be present with life 421 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 1: as it unfolds. 422 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:19,679 Speaker 5: For those of us, all of us coming off of 423 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 5: a tough year, what advice do you offer to the 424 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 5: people listening to this, maybe watching this, to take that 425 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 5: next step and take ownership maybe over what's going to happen, 426 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 5: and maybe even putting it in that positive perspective. 427 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:41,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, No, I don't know if I'm if I'm 428 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 1: in any position to give any advice Emily, but for 429 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 1: what it's worth, you know, I look back this year 430 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 1: and so I've spoken to a lot of people at 431 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 1: both ends of the spectrum. People who've been through everything 432 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 1: and lost loved ones and their own health impacted their 433 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:58,679 Speaker 1: jobs and everything else, and people who haven't been that 434 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 1: impacted to buy it. And I think, for you know, 435 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: there are different challenges for everyone. But I do think 436 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,399 Speaker 1: at the end of this year, it's really tempting in 437 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: difficult situations to want to get past them as quickly 438 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 1: as possible and to move on to something new. And 439 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: it's almost human nature, I think, you could say, and 440 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,360 Speaker 1: I would look at that a bit like in meditation. 441 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:25,439 Speaker 1: So on days when the mind is quiet, when our 442 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 1: emotions are very sort of peaceful and happy, of course 443 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 1: it's easy to sit. I'm not sure how much we 444 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,679 Speaker 1: learn about the mind actually, because we tend to just 445 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,400 Speaker 1: sit and it'say, oh, it's so nice on the days 446 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: we sit and the mind is busy and the emotions 447 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: are challenging. Although it's difficult, I feel like we we 448 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 1: normally learn something about ourselves, we learn something about our mind. 449 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 1: The same is true of the external world as well. 450 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 1: I feel like out of this year, we have all 451 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: been forced to reflect on what is most important to 452 00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: us in our life, who is most important in our life, been, 453 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: where is even most important in our life, and make kind. 454 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,679 Speaker 2: Of choices as a result of that. 455 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: So my hope is that people won't just look back 456 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:10,479 Speaker 1: at this year and go, oh, it's the worst year ever. 457 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,199 Speaker 1: I can't wait to get away from it, it's more 458 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 1: kind of okay, coming out of this year, what are 459 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 1: the things that I can take away that will lead 460 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 1: to a better life, not just next year, to kind 461 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: of bey on that as well, and that those lessons 462 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 1: or whatever you kind of you know, want to call 463 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:30,880 Speaker 1: them will be genuinely beneficial. So I think coming out 464 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: of the year with that attitude, I feel you kind 465 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 1: of can't help but going to next year thinking that 466 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 1: we're all hopefully more resilient than we were then we 467 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 1: went into twenty twenty. We've been tested in a way 468 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 1: we perhaps didn't expect to be tested, and we've shown 469 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 1: ourselves in you know, however small the ways might be, 470 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: that actually we are able to cope in a difficult situation, 471 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 1: and we are able to take on challenges when they arrive. 472 00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 4: To finish us off. I know that there are so 473 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:04,919 Speaker 4: many benefits to meditation. I mean, the science is literally endless. 474 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 3: For you. 475 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 5: If you had to point to one or two of 476 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,880 Speaker 5: the benefits that in all of your years of practicing, 477 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 5: Andy has just kind of really brought you back to 478 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 5: this practice time and time again, what would you say 479 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:23,360 Speaker 5: that is? And I ask you this under the premise 480 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,919 Speaker 5: that for those that are still just like having a 481 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:29,479 Speaker 5: hard time getting on the train. Yeah, what is it 482 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 5: for you that keeps you, you know, on the train 483 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 5: not getting off? 484 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, so a great question. 485 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 1: It's difficult to put down, just like, you know, into 486 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 1: into one thing. It's more of a feeling, you know, 487 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 1: than an idea perhaps, I mean, definitely a softer kind of. 488 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 2: Mind, you know. 489 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 1: I think I used to be a lot more kind 490 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 1: of judgmental critic of myself and others, and none. 491 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 2: Of us enjoy that mind state. It's not a you know, 492 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 2: why would we give ourselves such a hard time when 493 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 2: life is tricky enough as it is, and then to 494 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:14,400 Speaker 2: put that on others as well. 495 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 1: I think that it's a lot so to knowing that 496 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:22,360 Speaker 1: it definitely softens my mind and takes off the sort 497 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:25,119 Speaker 1: of the sharp edges. I think is something that keeps me, 498 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: keeps me coming back, And then I think, at its 499 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:35,159 Speaker 1: most basic level, just a sense of appreciation for just 500 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:40,199 Speaker 1: how transitory like this life is. I think ordinarily we 501 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 1: are very caught up in our thinking mind and everything 502 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 1: that's kind of going on all the time, understandably, but 503 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 1: because of that, we're not really spending that much time 504 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 1: on being present, And the only time we can really 505 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 1: be appreciative and grateful for this life is. 506 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 2: Here in the present. 507 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,440 Speaker 1: We might have an idea of it in our mind, 508 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: but that's an idea of appreciating it rather than actually 509 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 1: appreciating it kind of here and now. And I think 510 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,719 Speaker 1: the more time we spend in that, the more we 511 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 1: realize that, wow, life is really really sure. There is 512 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 1: only so much time, There is only so much energy. 513 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,479 Speaker 2: Where are we going to put that? Like, what are 514 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 2: we going to say to usselves what's important in our lives? 515 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,880 Speaker 2: And where are we going to sort of focus our attention? 516 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,119 Speaker 1: And I just feel like the more time I spend 517 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 1: being present, I know, the happier I am and the 518 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 1: more appreciative I am to be alive. 519 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,120 Speaker 2: So that's what keeps me coming. 520 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 5: Back A beautiful takeaway, Andy, how do the hurdlers keep 521 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 5: up with you? 522 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 3: How do they keep up with Headspace? Give me all 523 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 3: the details? 524 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 1: Sure, well, I guess we can circle back to the 525 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 1: Netflix thing. Come like I'd love, I'd love and join 526 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 1: me on this little journey on Netflix. It starts January first. 527 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 1: On the Headspace gude to meditation. You could download the 528 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 1: Headspace app. I would it would be my pleasure to 529 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 1: talk you through some some meditations and kind of get 530 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 1: you get you started with some meditation. You can obviously 531 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 1: go to the Airspace website, or you can just catch 532 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 1: me on Twitter or Instagram. 533 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 3: All the usual places, All the usual places. 534 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 5: I'm over at Emily a Body and at Hurdle Podcast. 535 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 3: Thank you Andy for your time. I appreciate it. 536 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 2: Please lovely to see you again Emily. 537 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 3: Another hurdle conquered. Catch you guys next time.