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Speaker 2: Is the John Anick and Kenny Florian podcast.

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Speaker 3: John Annick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 1: I love him, I can't get enough of him. And

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Speaker 1: Frank out.

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Speaker 3: There are a couple of absolutely self involved.

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Speaker 2: You're your hosts, John Anick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 4: Gosh, can't flow that. Frank Mere Todd Duffy call just

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Speaker 4: feels like a lifetime ago. It was some respects, It

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Speaker 4: life goes. Happy Monday, everybody, Happy Veterans Day. It is Monday,

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Speaker 4: November eleven, twenty twenty four. Thanks for checking back in.

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Speaker 4: It is episode five twenty four of the Anak and

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Speaker 4: Florian Podcast, and it comes to live on a day

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Speaker 4: on which Ken flow. We honor members of the United

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Speaker 4: States Armed Forces, of course, those who have served, those

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Speaker 4: presently serving. And I don't know if it was on

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Speaker 4: and it featured a lot of veterans, some of whom

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Speaker 4: greatly appreciate when you walk up to them and say

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Speaker 4: thank you for your service. Others would like to hear anything,

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Speaker 4: but and I did think it was sort of interesting

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Speaker 4: cleaning up. But some veterans would like you to say,

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Speaker 4: how was your service? You know, did you bury any

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Speaker 4: I guess don't be afraid to extend the conversation, you

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Speaker 4: know with all these people who you know, did what

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Speaker 4: be many days during the calendar year on which we

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Speaker 5: We wouldn't be doing this if it wasn't for them

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Speaker 5: and their service. And you know, I have talked about

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Speaker 5: And just it's it's amazing what what they do for us,

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Speaker 5: And yeah, I think one of those things now to

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Speaker 4: Well, and to those who have served, just buckets of

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Speaker 4: our full fledge UFC three on nine recap. We were

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Speaker 4: very excited about that the greatest of all time, John

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Speaker 4: to UFC bantamweight contender amins A Hobby as promised. I

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Speaker 4: Now we get into the meat and bones of the

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Speaker 4: programmed ladies and gentlemen as we recap UFC Fight Night

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Speaker 4: Magne versus Protest Headlines is brought to you by Quervo.

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Speaker 4: Now's a good time to enjoy the tequila that invented tequila.

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Speaker 4: I love that little that little seer. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 4: you got wipes and stingers and we got Carlos the

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Speaker 4: Nightmare protests. Now you peeled back the film and maybe

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Speaker 4: Carlos protests yet again, perhaps putting a capstone on his

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty four Rookie of the Year campaign, now completed

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Speaker 4: with a knock out of Neil Magni, comes at four

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Speaker 4: point fifty of Round one. Lot too unpack here despite

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Speaker 5: And again if you asked me, well, Kenny, surely now

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Speaker 5: I mean this guy, listen, he is so good at

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Speaker 5: On the finish, I had to watch it several times

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Speaker 4: So when you talk about Neil Magni's legacy and his

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Speaker 4: We still don't talk enough about a defense and footworks

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Speaker 4: So this UFC welterweight division is wicked interesting. We had

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Speaker 4: He's not gonna fight down Gilbert Brown.

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Speaker 5: That's the one I was looking at, was Jeff Neil.

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Speaker 4: Walter Waite is just insane right now. December seventh was

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Speaker 4: So it's bounced around. But stepe is close to plus

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Speaker 7: Uh you know, I think listen, I think if you

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Speaker 5: Isn't young, he's thirty seven. However, steep A is forty two.

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Speaker 5: forty eight, Yeah, not young, but it's it's kind of you.

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Speaker 5: There's there's a multiplier similar to dog years that you

437
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Speaker 5: have to kind of.

438
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Speaker 1: Include in there.

439
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Speaker 5: And it's not exactly a fresh you know, forty two

440
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Speaker 5: years old for Steve A.

441
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Speaker 1: Miacic, but he's he's again similar to Tyson.

442
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Speaker 5: He's still going to have the power, He's still going

443
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Speaker 5: to have the will, there is no question about that.

444
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Speaker 5: And John Jones sometimes gets a little sleepy early in

445
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Speaker 5: fights and that's where you can catch them. And step

446
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Speaker 5: A definitely would would like nothing more than to play

447
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Speaker 5: spoiler here.

448
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Speaker 6: Yeah, And I'll tell you the other thing is I think.

449
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Speaker 7: That you know, so what's that saying like today's fifty

450
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Speaker 7: is yesterday's or today's forty is yesterday's fifty, or vice versa,

451
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Speaker 7: whatever it is. But I always go back to It's

452
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Speaker 7: hard for me because I go back to I used

453
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Speaker 7: to watch the old timers games with my father and they,

454
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Speaker 7: you know, he tell me about all the great baseball plays,

455
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Speaker 7: this guy was that this, you know, it was a

456
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Speaker 7: history lesson, and then they watched I was a young kid,

457
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Speaker 7: right and I'm watching these guys go out and there

458
00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,080
Speaker 7: they're almost crippled, you know, they can't swing the bat,

459
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Speaker 7: they're hobbling around the bases. And these guys probably weren't

460
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Speaker 7: more than forty eight years old at that time, you

461
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Speaker 7: know what I mean? So psychologically, like I'm pulling for

462
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Speaker 7: anybody who's in an upper rage this event right, put

463
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Speaker 7: it off. So you know, I'm never really breaking down

464
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Speaker 7: fights for the right reason. I'm breaking them down for

465
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Speaker 7: my own crazy reasons, and that's why I'm a horrible handicapper.

466
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Speaker 5: But yeah, like they were running around bases hitting balls,

467
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Speaker 5: not fighting in heavyweight fights.

468
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Speaker 6: Right exactly. And they could even do that, right. So,

469
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Speaker 6: I don't know.

470
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Speaker 7: I think we're in a different time, and you know

471
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Speaker 7: we have the nutrition is better, not that the food

472
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Speaker 7: is for me. You know what to do, recovery, all

473
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Speaker 7: the motalities they have for everything, and if you follow that,

474
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Speaker 7: you lead a clean life and you're not drinking.

475
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Speaker 6: I don't know, man, I think you're going to be

476
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Speaker 6: in good shape.

477
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Speaker 4: Your dad ever tell you about Sandy Kofax?

478
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Speaker 7: Not really, but I think I'm gonna say I saw

479
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Speaker 7: Sandy Kofax pitch against the Yankees when I was younger.

480
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Speaker 4: Sandy Kofax retired when he was thirty because of chronic

481
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Speaker 4: pain in his left arm. Wow, well, the youngest player

482
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Speaker 4: ever inducted into the Hall of Fame at thirty six

483
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Speaker 4: years of age left, arm of God throw Sandy Kofax.

484
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Speaker 4: All right, So, from a technical standpoint in this fight

485
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Speaker 4: between Steve A Miachich and John Jones, one thing that

486
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Speaker 4: the step A coaches have suggested is that inactivity would

487
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Speaker 4: be detrimental for stepe in this fight. I think being

488
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Speaker 4: inactive in motion, so always moving. And they also were

489
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Speaker 4: talking rhythmically just about his defense for John Jones's myriad weapons,

490
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Speaker 4: sort of just being a part of his rhythm. In

491
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Speaker 4: this type of fight, you can't get John Jones in

492
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Speaker 4: the gym necessarily. But Ray, what do you think about

493
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Speaker 4: how steep A navigates this John Jones challenge either on

494
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Speaker 4: the feed or on the ground technically speaking?

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Speaker 7: Uh yeah, Like again, I think on the feed, I

496
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Speaker 7: think he's got a really good chance because again power is.

497
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Speaker 6: The only you know, the last thing to leave you. Uh.

498
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Speaker 6: And on the ground, I don't know.

499
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Speaker 7: I mean Jones, I think would want to do to

500
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Speaker 7: him what he did to Cyril Gun, and I don't.

501
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Speaker 7: I don't think he. I think Steve A will hold up. Obviously,

502
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Speaker 7: he's gonna hold up way better than Cyril Gun. I

503
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Speaker 7: don't care if he was fifty. He's going to do

504
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Speaker 7: better than that.

505
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Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, right, right right.

506
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Speaker 7: You know, look, it's an interesting fight, you know, it

507
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Speaker 7: really is. It's a it's a really really interesting fight.

508
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Speaker 7: But you know, I'm not going to say any bad

509
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Speaker 7: words about Steve A because I love the guy and

510
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,400
Speaker 7: I love his team, but uh, I'm pulling.

511
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Speaker 6: For step I think he stands for all the right things.

512
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Speaker 7: Yeah, and uh again, I'd love to I'd love to

513
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Speaker 7: see an and I think if there's a guy to

514
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Speaker 7: do it, it is steep Bay because I think he is

515
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Speaker 7: that blue collar grind Yeah, you know, like again is

516
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Speaker 7: you know, he's a family guy. I'm sure we stayed

517
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Speaker 7: on a straight and narrow and the other guy, we

518
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 7: don't know what the hell he's doing. But I think

519
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 7: the inactivity probably will hurt Jones more than it will

520
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Speaker 7: hurt Steepe, even with the age.

521
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Speaker 4: Cody, can you chase for me what the closing odds

522
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,440
Speaker 4: were for John Jones against seedle Goan YOUFC two eighty

523
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Speaker 4: five March of twenty twenty three, because Ray, I do

524
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Speaker 4: think it speaks to part of your point there, the

525
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Speaker 4: relative gameness of steep A. Right, He's not gonna be

526
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Speaker 4: looking for a way out when potential chokes are happening.

527
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Speaker 4: So I don't know. I'm encouraged by the prospects of

528
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Speaker 4: this fight, and I do think there are a lot

529
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Speaker 4: of unknowns on the John Jones side, and I'm going

530
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Speaker 4: to have a lot more answers than I do questions.

531
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Speaker 4: I think after the fighter meetings with these two individuals

532
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Speaker 4: on Thursday, maybe you're not going to get complete truths

533
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Speaker 4: from both men. I'm just curious the extent to which

534
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Speaker 4: this fight is still box office Ray. I mean, John

535
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Speaker 4: Jones is John Jones, But I think there are a

536
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Speaker 4: lot of pundits in talking heads, maybe who don't work

537
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 4: for the company, who are going to want to allow

538
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Speaker 4: the extent to which this fight is box office given

539
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Speaker 4: just how many question marks there are, given the lack

540
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Speaker 4: of competition from both of these two men over the

541
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Speaker 4: last five years.

542
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Speaker 5: Yeah, and and the human body is extremely complicated. And

543
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Speaker 5: when someone's coming back from something like a torn muscle,

544
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Speaker 5: many times, if your recovery is not perfect, both in

545
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Speaker 5: the rest that you put into your body and the

546
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 5: recovery the rehab that you do or don't do, it

547
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 5: can lead to other muscular issues, shoulder problems because of

548
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,239
Speaker 5: torn peck that leads to the back of the you know,

549
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,440
Speaker 5: the back of the shoulder, the top of the shoulder.

550
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Speaker 5: You know, what does that do with how you carry

551
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Speaker 5: your hand and what does it do for the power

552
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Speaker 5: that you may have you know lost.

553
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Speaker 1: So there's a lot of question marks for sure.

554
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Speaker 5: And in this fight, I mean, Jones is coming back

555
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 5: from from a major surgery and again he's another guy

556
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 5: that has had a lot of tough fight as well,

557
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,399
Speaker 5: so it's going to be really interesting.

558
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Speaker 7: But Kenny for those type of things because trust me

559
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 7: as a coach, I dealt I watch.

560
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 6: Guys, my guys fight injured.

561
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Speaker 7: Com I want to say kind of all the time,

562
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Speaker 7: you know, eighty percent of the time. But time is

563
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 7: a really good healing factor, you know what I mean,

564
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 7: if you're not killing yourself and you're not those fights

565
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:24,120
Speaker 7: and no stressful camps. Every time I think that could

566
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 7: the time could be an asset in actually healing. It's

567
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 7: always going to make things feel better because again you

568
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:35,159
Speaker 7: have access to great physical therapy. Now, uh, supplementation is

569
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 7: on point. You know, if you're eating the right diet,

570
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 7: it all adds up. And whoever, you know, when you

571
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Speaker 7: get to a certain point, those are things that could

572
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Speaker 7: really make a difference in a fight.

573
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Speaker 4: I'm in love with your accent. Earlier today you were

574
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 4: talking about Steve A. Ray and you were like, he's

575
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Speaker 4: a fireman. You know, just everything you fucking say, it's

576
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 4: just music's in my ears. I'm looking up the live

577
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,120
Speaker 4: betting line right now on Steve A. Miachich and John

578
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Speaker 4: Jones on Draftking Sportsbook, because Stevee is up to plus

579
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Speaker 4: five twenty five and he opened plus two forty and

580
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,479
Speaker 4: this is but one lens through which to look at

581
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 4: this fight, right, But John Jones against Seedle Gone closed

582
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 4: minus one forty three, and right now he's like minus

583
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 4: seven hundred against the most accomplished on paper heavyweight champion

584
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Speaker 4: of all time, STEVEE four times defended this belt across

585
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,159
Speaker 4: two rains. I know he's forty two, but I remember

586
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 4: one time on a hot mic saying Glover to share

587
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:30,880
Speaker 4: a breaks through at forty two.

588
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Speaker 6: Right.

589
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Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know. I just feel like I'm

590
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 4: on an island sometimes when I say this fight seems

591
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 4: more competitive than the betting line would indicate it. Every

592
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Speaker 4: time I go into the fucking sports book keemflow, the

593
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 4: price gets bigger, so maybe I don't know what I'm

594
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 4: talking about.

595
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Speaker 7: That's but I think Love is a great example because

596
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 7: he's another grinder and old timer that really did well.

597
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 6: I could see Steve by doing that too. Man, I'm

598
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,239
Speaker 6: betting him. I'm going to bet him. Not that I'm

599
00:28:58,280 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 6: bet but if I.

600
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 4: Get bet him, Kenny's got to save a lot of

601
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 4: his bullets because we're doing an extensive UFC three h

602
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 4: nine preview in like an hour. So, Kenny, I'm just

603
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 4: gonna have you not go too deep right now if

604
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 4: that's actually possible. But in terms of the bet ray

605
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 4: it sounds to me, I mean, how do you bet?

606
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 4: Do you? I mean we've asked you this question certainly

607
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 4: before in five hundred and twenty four shows. But if

608
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 4: you're trying to place a bet, how do you do that?

609
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 4: Are you doing it on an application? Are you doing

610
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 4: it with your local guy Loopy over there?

611
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 6: Or what be through? It would be through Loopy.

612
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 4: Loopy three thousand?

613
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 8: Right?

614
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 4: Hey, Yeah, I'm aa count four one, three, eight, two seven,

615
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 4: give me two hundred bucks on Steve A Miachick. Do

616
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 4: we just lose Ray longo as Hey?

617
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 1: We lost him? Loopy cut it? Yeah?

618
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 4: So last week for the first time in five hundred

619
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Speaker 4: and twenty three appearances on the show, ray Longo tried

620
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 4: to play program director. Oh there he is, Hi, Raymond.

621
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Speaker 1: We were talking.

622
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Speaker 6: We left off at Loope on the corner.

623
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Speaker 4: Yeah, lupa ya hey. So last week on the program

624
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Speaker 4: you Want you decided you wanted to like play program

625
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 4: director on the show for the first time in five

626
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 4: hundred and twenty three episodes. You want like the questions

627
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 4: and the topics in advance.

628
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Speaker 6: Right, Well, you know, listen, I do other podcasts.

629
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Speaker 7: I get in like a you know, well another I

630
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Speaker 7: guess a night itinerary.

631
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Speaker 6: Yeah, of what's going to happen? I don't know.

632
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Speaker 1: I'm just oh, oh, now we're not good enough for you?

633
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 1: Is that? What's going on?

634
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 4: Right?

635
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 6: What is he doing right now? Is he praying?

636
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 4: I'm thinking about who I'm going to replace you with

637
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 4: on the podcast?

638
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 6: Can I get some help on the show?

639
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 4: This is insane? Right? So I don't get sensitive or

640
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 4: defensive about too many things, but preparation is one of them. Oh,

641
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 4: I'm a producer on EU program. I sent a rundown

642
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 4: five hundred and twenty four times, right, And I don't

643
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 4: know if you have electronic mail or not. We can

644
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 4: certainly send you that and get you the topics in

645
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 4: advance so that when it's John Jones, Steve A. Miasch,

646
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 4: it's fight week, you don't answer the first question and

647
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 4: take it right to fucking take call. So all right,

648
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 4: so Ray wants all the topics in advance, so we

649
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 4: can get that done for you for episode five. I

650
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 4: don't really you're going on nice, so I don't know

651
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 4: the extent to which you're handsomely paid or otherwise by

652
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 4: these other shows. What are these podcasts you know on

653
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 4: that send you all the topics in advance? And while

654
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Speaker 4: we're on the subject, I'm.

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Speaker 7: Just saying, wow, what this was the myth to be

656
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 7: an argument? I'm just saying that I have been times

657
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Speaker 7: where I get a list of things that we're talking about.

658
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Speaker 1: Who are you seeing on the sideway? That's what we

659
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Speaker 1: want to know.

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Speaker 4: This hasn't happened in a while, So I do think

661
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Speaker 4: in the nature of organic conversation, we have to reserve

662
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Speaker 4: the right to bounce all over the place, right, whether

663
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Speaker 4: you're we are to talk about your hairline or your barber,

664
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Speaker 4: or gratuity or anything else. Are you getting tuned up

665
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 4: for UFC three on nine or no, yeah, yeah, I

666
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 4: mean we're not trying to look like Michael Kiasa, like

667
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 4: we've been living on a fucking bust in Alaska eating

668
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Speaker 4: poisonous plants.

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Speaker 7: Right now, we're attacking Kisa, one of the nicest people

670
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Speaker 7: in martial laws.

671
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 6: How do you? How do you attack that guy?

672
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Speaker 4: Yes, is the man, but let us not pretend it's

673
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Speaker 4: certain ways. He hasn't looked like he's been living on

674
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Speaker 4: a bus in the Pacific Northwest or Alaska, eating like

675
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 4: poisonous plants. I wasn't the person who wrote that. I

676
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 4: think it was Jeff Gallo quoting some movie. Ken fil

677
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 4: has heard this more times than he cares to it.

678
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Speaker 5: I was in line with him checking in and uh,

679
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 5: he smelled a little ripe one time.

680
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Speaker 4: But anyways, I love him.

681
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Speaker 1: It happens to me. Happens to me.

682
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Speaker 4: So we have a lot of things to get to

683
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Speaker 4: and of course, I kid, it's all love, right. I

684
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 4: am curious as to some of these other programs, but

685
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 4: some other things in my notes, if I could so,

686
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Speaker 4: your guy Charlie Campbell is not fighting Mauricio Rufi at

687
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 4: UFC three on nine, and Kenny watched the film on

688
00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 4: this guy, and he's pretty damn impressive. To what extent

689
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Speaker 4: had you dove into the preparation for this kid, MAURICEO. Rufie,

690
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 4: who is kicking off the pay per view here coming

691
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Speaker 4: up this weekend.

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Speaker 7: Well, I mean, uh, you know, he pulled out I

693
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Speaker 7: think pretty early, but uh right, very very impressed with Rufie.

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Speaker 6: What what he did with Malaukee was that his name?

695
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Speaker 4: Yep?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I mean he just dissected him.

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Speaker 7: You could see he's at a different level because Malauche's

698
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Speaker 7: a you know, he's an average good stand up fighter,

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Speaker 7: you know, but he just picked him apart. He looked

700
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Speaker 7: fantastic in that fight. So and plus he's coming from

701
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Speaker 7: a team that's absolutely on fire. Whatever those is he

702
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Speaker 7: part of the nerds. I mean those guys, even what

703
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Speaker 7: protested the other night, these guys are just they're on

704
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Speaker 7: a roll band.

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Speaker 6: So you have to respect that. And yeah, that was that.

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Speaker 6: I thought that was going to be a very interesting

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Speaker 6: fight for Charlie.

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Speaker 7: I'm sorry it's not happening, but Rookie's no joke, you know.

709
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Speaker 7: But Charlie, Charlie's a Charlie's is a tough kid too.

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Speaker 7: So it would have been interesting.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Charlie's a really tough kid. There's no way that

712
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Speaker 4: Mauricio Rufi unless I could stand corrected here, but there's

713
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Speaker 4: no way that he would be minus eight hundred or

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Speaker 4: so against Charlie Campbell. I wouldn't think because he's a

715
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Speaker 4: massive favorite against this fighter whose name I'm not gonna

716
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Speaker 4: pronounce yet because we're gonna have fun later in the

717
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Speaker 4: main event challenge. Oh, we've got a few more minutes

718
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Speaker 4: here with the great and I mean great legendary coach

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Speaker 4: Ray Long. So Chris Widman taking on Eric Anders in

720
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Speaker 4: the Middleway division. This preliminary bout can be seen live

721
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Speaker 4: on ESPN News. Madison Square Garden hasn't necessarily been kind

722
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Speaker 4: to your guy, So we'll see how it goes here

723
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Speaker 4: at the Mecca for Wyman. Any idea what the betting

724
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Speaker 4: line is on this fight?

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00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:52,359
Speaker 6: Raymond, I'm gonna say Wideman is the favorite.

726
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 4: So Chris Widman is not the favorite. Wow, So it

727
00:34:56,600 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 4: sounds to me like you need to call on Andre

728
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,839
Speaker 4: Loopy three thousand and tell him that professionally better four one,

729
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 4: three eight two seven needs another straight wager. Chris Wyman

730
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 4: right now plus one twenty in climbing on DraftKings sports.

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Speaker 6: Book plus one twenty. That's that's that's that's close. Ye's close.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's close.

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Speaker 6: Why white men's winning. White Man's winning the fight.

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Speaker 4: So he's owing two at MSG. Eric Anders now thirty seven,

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00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 4: Wiman forty years of age. Ray kind of non committal.

736
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Speaker 4: Beyond this fight? How much do you think this result

737
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 4: is going to play into what happens for Chris beyond

738
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Speaker 4: Saturday night?

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Speaker 6: Ooh uh man, you really have to again.

740
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 4: A question that probably should have been sent to you prior.

741
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 7: I apologize you should you should have That's a question

742
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 7: only he can answer. But I think I think it

743
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 7: will have something to do with what what holds the future?

744
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 6: For sure?

745
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 4: Yeah? Who are these podcasters who are getting you the

746
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 4: questions in advance?

747
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,439
Speaker 1: I'm going to keep you than a fired up John

748
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 1: annak of it.

749
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 4: Just name one of them, name one unfiltered.

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Speaker 5: Oh my god, he's jealous. He's jealous, Ray, and he's pissed.

751
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 4: What the what is the what is? What is?

752
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:17,360
Speaker 6: What is?

753
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 4: He's neither of those emotions.

754
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you're disappointed. That's the worst one.

755
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 4: Ray.

756
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 6: I think he's fired me on He's about to get on.

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00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, well it's amazing, right because I I'm not sensitive

758
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 4: to your minute man whatsoever. We actually have converted some

759
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 4: of these minute men. They're coming over to my fucking

760
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 4: side of things. We need a group name for my cronies,

761
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 4: you know that happen. So some numbers on Jake Paul,

762
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 4: might Tyson if I could, right. So, I don't know

763
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 4: where the betting handle is right now, but I do

764
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,879
Speaker 4: know that when I sent our handicappers the line, Jake

765
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Speaker 4: Paul was minus two sixty as the betting favorite, and

766
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 4: Myke Tyson was plus two hundred. And if you don't know,

767
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 4: this is happening in Arlington, Texas on Friday night, I

768
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 4: believe in the heavyweight division, Jake Paul right now is

769
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Speaker 4: minus two to twenty. Mike Tyson is plus one seventy five.

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Speaker 4: Mike Tyson by knockout is plus two sixty. Jake Paul

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00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 4: by knockout or TKO or DQS plus one twenty five

772
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 4: over under six and a half round slightly juiced to

773
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Speaker 4: the under minus one thirty for under six and a

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Speaker 4: half rounds. Ray forced to put one hundred dollars on

775
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 4: this fight. It sounds like maybe you're taking a flyer

776
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 4: on Mike Tyson by knockout at plus two sixty.

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00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 6: I would take that. Yeah, that's what chen.

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00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 4: I know you're going to talk about this a little

779
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:40,879
Speaker 4: bit later, but what are your thoughts on that?

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00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 5: Gosh, well, listen, he certainly has a chance, and from

781
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 5: what he's saying, he said he's gonna get right into

782
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 5: his face and get right to work early. I think

783
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:53,359
Speaker 5: that's his best chance. So we're gonna see. I'll save

784
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 5: my bullets. But uh, yeah, god, it's still at the

785
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 5: end of the day, it's a twenty seven.

786
00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 1: Year old taken on a fifty eight year old.

787
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Speaker 6: So I don't know, you know, you know what, you

788
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 6: know what's horrible to me? This is the horrible part

789
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 6: to me.

790
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 7: Imagine if Tyson was twenty seven and this guy's twenty seven,

791
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 7: what happens in that fight, Oh what happens he'd.

792
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 1: Killed whoever he is.

793
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,320
Speaker 6: Gods are probably minus minus two thousand.

794
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 7: So this even, no matter what happens, this kid's gonna

795
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 7: think that he beats id. It's it's amazing to me.

796
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 7: It's a it's absolutely amazing to me.

797
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 6: Like when his.

798
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 7: Brother fight Floyd Mayweather, it was one hundred and thirty

799
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 7: five pounder. I and then think that he you know,

800
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 7: the guy was, How old was hee? Forty eight forty seven?

801
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 3: Right?

802
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:40,800
Speaker 4: Hey, what happens between Jake Paul and a prime Peter McNeely.

803
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 6: I'll tell you what. I bet you Peter McNeely wins.

804
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:48,240
Speaker 6: I bet you McNeely wins.

805
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 7: Those are the guys that they would line McNeely up with.

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00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,399
Speaker 1: Moving on to Massachusetts, kid.

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00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 6: Yeah, So.

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00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,800
Speaker 2: With grubhub, there's no fees on restaurant orders over fifty dollars.

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00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 2: You eat the food, grub Hub will eat the fees.

810
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 4: Wait.

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Speaker 2: Wait, grubhub is gonna eat the fees. Wait, like the receipts.

812
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 2: It's a metaphor for how grubhub is doing away with fees.

813
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 2: No delivery fees, no service fees, no rainy day fees.

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00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 3: Well, what if it rains?

815
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 1: Can I still her delivery?

816
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 5: Please?

817
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,320
Speaker 2: You can still get any type of food delivered without

818
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 2: getting off the couch.

819
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 6: In that case, what about the new bands fee? Uh?

820
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 2: Well, I've never heard of that one, but I guess

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Speaker 2: we'll eat that too. No fees on restaurant orders over

822
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,720
Speaker 2: fifty dollars only on Grubhub. Probably eat the fee details

823
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 2: at grubhub dot com.

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00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 4: Our famed artist average Joe Romero, who designed the poster

825
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 4: for UFC three oh eight. He's done all of our

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Speaker 4: one More Sleep designs. His MSG design right now is

827
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Speaker 4: at john Anek dot com. He loves when we invoke

828
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 4: the Boston accent. So if you're looking for something to

829
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Speaker 4: do later today, folks, go to Google dot com and

830
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 4: google Peter McNeely and just find some videos. It is

831
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Speaker 4: a fucking gold mine just listening to that man talk

832
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Speaker 4: preconcusted and otherwise. I say that with all due respect,

833
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 4: But Peter McNeely man, yeah, prime Peter McNeely or Peter

834
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 4: McNeely now against Jake Paul, I'll fucking watch. I don't care,

835
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 4: all right. A few other things I'd like to get to. So,

836
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 4: Chris Widman, to what extent are you excited emotional to

837
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 4: make that walk with him here coming up in a

838
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 4: few days. I mean, it's got to be pretty exciting

839
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 4: for you, new hip and everything else to make this

840
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:13,720
Speaker 4: walk with Chris at MSG.

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00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm excited. Man. He sounds great.

842
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 7: You know, we've been talking and he's I'm sure Jimo's

843
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:23,399
Speaker 7: doing a great job with him. He seems injury free,

844
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 7: which I always love. Yeah, and uh yeah, I think

845
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,839
Speaker 7: Whiteman's a he's a different breed. I think I think

846
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 7: he's I'm I'm saying he's He's definitely winning that fight

847
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 7: and then we'll see what happens after that.

848
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 6: But I think it's a great fight for him.

849
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:40,800
Speaker 7: I like Eric Anders, but I think it's a really

850
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 7: you know, it's a it's a it's a even fight,

851
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 7: like you know what I mean. And I've thrown him

852
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 7: into a guy that's ranked number two or like an

853
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 7: up and coming guy. The's are both guys at the

854
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 7: tail end of their career, and I think it's gonna

855
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 7: be a fun fight.

856
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 4: All right, Wiman wins. I shave my eyebrows with a

857
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 4: zero attachment, right, so not with a razor, but I

858
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:03,879
Speaker 4: shaved my eyebrows down to his zero. Oh I might

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00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 4: not be able to do that on TV. Huh, So

860
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 4: all right, whyman wins, I'll shave my eyebrows with a

861
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 4: one attachment. Andre's wins. You shave your head with a one.

862
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 6: No, I'm not doing that. I can't get That's like ulysses,

863
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 6: I lose my hair. I have no nothing.

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00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 4: I was trying to think how confident you were in

865
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 4: your gut and our hair grows back.

866
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 6: The thing is, I'm a man of my words. I

867
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 6: don't want to say nothing. I don't want to do.

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00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 4: All right, a few other things before we get you

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00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:40,240
Speaker 4: out of here, Raymond, if I could so, Al Jamaine

870
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 4: Sterling and mob sar Ivloyev is obviously on the calendar

871
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,359
Speaker 4: here in the not too distant future. What is your

872
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 4: best guess though? For Morob Dwalash Willie in terms of

873
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:54,319
Speaker 4: the calendar for this first Bannamweight Championship title defense? Is

874
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 4: he healthy?

875
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 7: As far as I know he's healthy, He's coming in

876
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 7: this week. We're going to do to Sarah and moving

877
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 7: his picture up with the other champions. So when are

878
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 7: you doing that Wednesday night?

879
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh.

880
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, so that's really nice.

881
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,240
Speaker 4: I might have to am I invited either or no?

882
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 4: Maybe not after today's show.

883
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 6: That door is always open for you guys.

884
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 4: You don't ask, well, no, if you don't know, this

885
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 4: is a particularly special thing. If my reaction to you

886
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 4: saying that is any indication, if memory serves Al Jamaine

887
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 4: Sterling wins the undisputed title on a DQ and Ray

888
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 4: doesn't anoint him and put him up there until he

889
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 4: actually wins the title cleanly. Morob is going up on

890
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 4: Wednesday night. What time are we doing this?

891
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 6: I think six pm.

892
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 4: Oh I can't get there by six, but I wish

893
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:50,399
Speaker 4: you guys all the best. That's amazing. As Morob joins

894
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 4: the Wall of Champions there at Longo MMA in Garden City,

895
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 4: New York. Is that open to the public or.

896
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 6: No Ah, I don't.

897
00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 7: I mean, we didn't plan it like that. But uh,

898
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 7: that's a that's a that's interesting. That's another interesting. We

899
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 7: got to start pumping out the eds.

900
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 1: So they're showing up now, they're showing up now.

901
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 6: They might show up now.

902
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, but uh but yeah, no Morab, I mean he's

903
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 7: been far in al Jo, so I think he is healthy,

904
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 7: but he's probably looking I think he's just enjoying himself.

905
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:23,840
Speaker 7: A well deserved victory lap for that guy too. So

906
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 7: I say by February or March, he's back in there.

907
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 4: It is interesting because we've talked at length on this

908
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 4: podcast over the years about Jessica Andraj's decision to defend

909
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 4: her title after slamming rosanama Unis on her head like

910
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 4: three months later on UFC fight pass against Jong Way

911
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 4: Lee in China, and I was critical privately internally to

912
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:50,399
Speaker 4: Bala Muhammad in some part of him just turning this

913
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:52,799
Speaker 4: thing around so quickly. I mean, thank goodness, it wasn't

914
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,800
Speaker 4: Salt Lake City. But I think even just not allowing

915
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 4: his body proper time to heal after the Leon Edwards

916
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 4: fight puttentially could have resulted in this infection. So a

917
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 4: victory lapper. Otherwise, I do think it's wise for Arab

918
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 4: to sit back and just allow the championship reign to

919
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 4: marinate just a little bit. I don't see anything wrong

920
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 4: with that.

921
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 7: I agree hundred percent with you and he and he

922
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 7: he was an active guy too. It wasn't like he

923
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:22,240
Speaker 7: was inactive, right, Oh, he'd rather stay busy.

924
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 6: But this is this was a big deal for this kid. Yeah,

925
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 6: you know, going back, you saw the.

926
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 7: Crowds in Georgia and even France everywhere. I mean, he's

927
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 7: just he's Look, he's a likable guy.

928
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:33,839
Speaker 6: Man.

929
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 7: You could tell by his videos and how good he's

930
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 7: doing on social media and even what he did with

931
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 7: that kid on stage. He's just you have to love

932
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 7: the guy. He's he is a man of the people.

933
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:45,800
Speaker 7: He's never going to disappoint.

934
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 4: I don't believe he's the man. He is so great

935
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 4: for the sport. He put it really well. He is

936
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 4: just just totally infectious in the best of all ways.

937
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 4: And we can't have to see the title defense whenever

938
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 4: it happens. All right, Raymond, We're gonna let you get

939
00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 4: ou with the rest of your Monday. I know it's

940
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 4: a big week. You're looking great, You're looking lean and mean.

941
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,240
Speaker 4: My man, I mean you not eat at all this weekend?

942
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 4: Do you do a seventy two hour fast?

943
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 6: I wish I could do a seventy twelve fast.

944
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 4: I have to try that well metabodically, just being wired

945
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 4: like I am. I feel like I'm burning a lot

946
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 4: of calories on this podcast today. Just kind of all up.

947
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 4: Where are you sleeping Friday night? Ray on the eve

948
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:26,879
Speaker 4: of UFC three oh nine, You're sleeping at home?

949
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 6: No, I'll be at the whatever wherever the host hotel is.

950
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 4: Tell well, we have an Antiki Florian podcast appearance that

951
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 4: we would request your presence at. You can talk to

952
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 4: Jason Aik about a rate. If you need to be

953
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 4: paid for this appearance, Jay, we'll cut you in, but

954
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 4: we are going to be on Friday night, November fifteenth.

955
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 4: Ken Flow will be there at the floor room on

956
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:52,879
Speaker 4: the corner of twenty eighth and sixth one oh five

957
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 4: West twenty eighth Street, New York, New York, very close

958
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 4: to the host hotel. It's a UFC three on nine

959
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 4: party and we're going to be there at nine thirty

960
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 4: pm with our listeners and viewers and Friday night. Mike

961
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 4: graceis Yeah, Friday night, that's perfect.

962
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 7: Let's go muscles, I'd see it.

963
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,360
Speaker 6: What are you? Are you steroids?

964
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 1: I think I think he's on the juice.

965
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 4: Hey, UFC three ZHO nine party. Ray Longo is going

966
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 4: to be here loud and proud. That's breaking news. So

967
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:27,839
Speaker 4: uh hey, we love you, wish all the best from

968
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:28,879
Speaker 4: Chris Widman.

969
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 6: And Kenny Well.

970
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 7: We say he's on the juice obviously we're talking about

971
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 7: prune juice.

972
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 6: Of course I gotta go. All right, I'll see you.

973
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 7: At the whatever the floor room now it's the floor room, yeah, fluid.

974
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 4: And if I surprise you on Wednesday night, yes, let's

975
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:48,879
Speaker 4: do it. I'll try to get there all right. Ray,

976
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 4: appreciate your time brother, much.

977
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 6: Love awesome, buddy, Love you guys, take it easy.

978
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 4: There is the future Hall of Famer Ray Longo with

979
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 4: us every week here on the anakan Florian Podcast. And

980
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,840
Speaker 4: just you all wait until Eric anders in and just

981
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 4: silences all of those throaty New Yorkers on Saturday Night.

982
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 4: I'm just kidding. I'm really just kidding. I wrote in

983
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 4: a couple of other jokes later today that are sure

984
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 4: to offend. We'll see if I actually get to them

985
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 4: in this era in which everybody is so sensitive. So

986
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:18,840
Speaker 4: we have a few minutes here before we are joined

987
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:23,400
Speaker 4: by doctor June Chin and Amon's a hobby. There are

988
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 4: a few other things I'd like to get to on

989
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 4: the UFC Fight Night, and then some three h nine

990
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 4: stuff as well, some John Jones stuff. By the way,

991
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,839
Speaker 4: how's your shoulder? I mean, rumor has it that you're

992
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,360
Speaker 4: like a one armed man right now. I got a

993
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:37,879
Speaker 4: little impingement on my left shoulder right now.

994
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 1: So it's a little little stiff. I don't know where.

995
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:42,399
Speaker 1: I think it's just a little bit of arthritis. Doing

996
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 1: a lot of shooting.

997
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 4: So oh well, shooting takedowns.

998
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 1: Guns a little different, a little different, little.

999
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 4: Bit, all right, So are you gonna now take a

1000
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 4: break from shooting guns.

1001
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 5: No, like, I haven't been, and that's why it's getting worse.

1002
00:47:57,800 --> 00:47:59,319
Speaker 5: So I think I do I need, I need to

1003
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 5: take time.

1004
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 1: Off the letter of recovery.

1005
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 5: I'm talking about recovery people doing stupid stuff. I'm the

1006
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 5: stupid guy.

1007
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:07,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, what about jiu jitsu? When's the last time you rolled?

1008
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 1: Gosh?

1009
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 5: Not in a while, not in a little Not in

1010
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:13,919
Speaker 5: a little while, yeah, not a little while.

1011
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,240
Speaker 4: Well, if any of you guys are out there, Brian

1012
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 4: Battle and the likes Ken Flow's got a padded jiu

1013
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:20,959
Speaker 4: jitsu room in his house so you can go train

1014
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 4: with him. So ry near. De Ritter. R DR gets

1015
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 4: Gerald Murshart out of the guys by submission, as he

1016
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 4: suggested he would arms try and gole comes at one

1017
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 4: forty four round three. This guy's already calling for a

1018
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 4: fight will kamzat Chimaya. But uh, what do you make

1019
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 4: of the UFC debut for RDR?

1020
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 1: He looked good, man.

1021
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 5: I think his grappling skills I thought were impressive, you know,

1022
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 5: because especially given the fact that Meurshardt is no slouch

1023
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:47,839
Speaker 5: there on the ground, and I felt like De Ritter

1024
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 5: was was looking really good there was very fast, and

1025
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,399
Speaker 5: again I saw that before the fight, but I think

1026
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 5: his athleticism really was the difference. His length is a

1027
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:58,360
Speaker 5: bit of a problem as well, but he just he

1028
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 5: he moves really well. He knows how to engage his

1029
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,800
Speaker 5: grappling at the right time, and I think he was

1030
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 5: getting the better of the takedown game against Mershark that

1031
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:08,840
Speaker 5: was giving him a lot of trouble and because.

1032
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 1: Of that he came away with the wins. So I

1033
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 1: don't think he's ready for someone like Hamzad. I think

1034
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 1: he should slow his role there.

1035
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 5: I don't think there's a whole lot of people in

1036
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 5: that division that are ready for Hamzad. But I like

1037
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 5: the confidence and I like the fact that we have

1038
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 5: yet another dangerous dude at one hundred and eighty five

1039
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 5: pounds in the UFC.

1040
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 4: Man, you put nine hundred if you're one thousand dollars

1041
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:31,479
Speaker 4: on Mansour Abdul Malik. He did not have to wait

1042
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 4: very long for that to cash can flow. The TKO

1043
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 4: comes in large part due to a knee that would

1044
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 4: have felled lesser men. He gets dousche Go Tadorvich out

1045
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:40,240
Speaker 4: of there two forty four, round one.

1046
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:44,360
Speaker 5: My guy is a problem he's a problem John like.

1047
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:48,359
Speaker 5: He has that athleticism, he has that power, and now

1048
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:51,320
Speaker 5: he has very good guidance and coaches and people around

1049
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 5: him to steer him in that right direction.

1050
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:56,959
Speaker 1: And he is going to be a tough guy to beat.

1051
00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 5: And if you're gonna beat him, face him now, because

1052
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 5: as he gets more experience, he will be that.

1053
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 1: Much more dangerous.

1054
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 5: But one thing's for sure, He's the kind of guy

1055
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 5: that if he just clips you, he can knock you out.

1056
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 1: So I'm excited to see what he brings in the future.

1057
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 4: Middleweight and welter waight are both on fire. I'm not

1058
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 4: sure if you saw Chuck Buffalo Charles Radkey's knockout of

1059
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 4: Matthew Semmelsberger. I don't know if you have anything for

1060
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 4: us on that, But dude, like I just think bigger picture,

1061
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 4: like a guy like Chuck Buffalo. Right, he's competing on

1062
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 4: the same night as Carlos protests, Right, And how far

1063
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:31,760
Speaker 4: do you think Charles Radkey thinks he is from that level?

1064
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:35,280
Speaker 4: I would suggest you not very far. Fifty five seventy

1065
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 4: eighty five just crawling with absolute killers. And I'm not

1066
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:40,799
Speaker 4: trying to make some grand statement about Chuck Buffalo and

1067
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 4: his future in the rankings. But dude, he's a great

1068
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 4: athlete powerstroke. I mean, I'm I buy Chuck Buffalo. I

1069
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 4: buy his coaches, I buy his team. I think he

1070
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 4: can make a real run.

1071
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 1: Absolutely.

1072
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 5: I think the big thing for Chuck Buffalo is going

1073
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:58,840
Speaker 5: to be the you know, that space between his ears

1074
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 5: right is how becus he stays, how discipline he stays

1075
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 5: throughout his training, because you know, he is consistently, you know,

1076
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 5: showing flashes of brilliance. That knockout was a thing of beauty.

1077
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 5: That short shot was just a crushing punch. And he's

1078
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 5: the kind of guy as well who carries that level

1079
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:21,360
Speaker 5: of athleticism and power that can give anybody a problem

1080
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 5: if he hits you right, if he's setting it up

1081
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 5: properly and using his IQ out there, he's gonna get

1082
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:28,880
Speaker 5: a lot more wins like that, all right.

1083
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 4: We also congratulate Demand black Sheer big submission win over

1084
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 4: Cody Staman. Staman historically a very hard guy to get

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Speaker 4: some comments about his future after UFC three h nine

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Speaker 4: and in part I don't want to spend too much

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Speaker 4: many indications are that he will not, But if he

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Speaker 4: is of greater appeal to him is Alex Padeda and

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Speaker 4: not Tom Aspinall. Now a lot of people have been

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Speaker 4: suggestive that now John Jones is ducking Tom Aspinall. And

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Speaker 4: I just want to get your thoughts on this and

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Speaker 4: what ultimately you think could happen on the other side

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Speaker 4: of the UFC three on it.

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Speaker 5: Well, I think you know, similar to investments, you have

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Speaker 5: to weigh your risk management, right, It's about risk management

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Speaker 5: and what is going to bring in that potential money in, right,

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Speaker 5: So you're looking at it from the standpoint of a businessman.

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Speaker 5: You're looking at the standpoint also of legacy as well.

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Speaker 5: So let's let's pick that apart a little bit. Pereira

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Speaker 5: is a bigger draw than Aspinall.

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Speaker 1: As of right now.

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Speaker 5: The dude is a legit superstar Aspenall no slouch in

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00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 5: that department probably as well. But I would argue that

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Speaker 5: Pereira at this stage of the game is going to

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Speaker 5: bring in more money in a fight with John Jones

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Speaker 5: than say Aspinall.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so there's that.

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Speaker 5: So there's more money involved, and you know, you have

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Speaker 5: the star power as far as legacy of what Parira

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Speaker 5: is doing right now, I think he's gaining more attention

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Speaker 5: than perhaps even Aspinall.

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Speaker 1: Aspinall is a little more quiet, you know, a little

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Speaker 1: more reserved.

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Speaker 5: And then I would say, based on their overall skills,

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Speaker 5: Aspinall is a.

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Speaker 1: More dangerous fight for John Jones.

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Speaker 5: Why because Perea amazing on the feet, absolute killer, so

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Speaker 5: is Aspinall. The big difference is their ground game, right,

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Speaker 5: Aspinall is still a killer, He's a submission hound on

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Speaker 5: the ground, where maybe is a little bit weaker in

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Speaker 5: that department, not bad, but certainly not.

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Speaker 1: At the level of Aspinall.

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Speaker 5: So when you're weighing all those things, it's like, yeah,

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna make more money against a potentially easier fight

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Speaker 5: than Pereira.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's do that. And I think that's where he's

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Speaker 1: coming from.

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Speaker 4: To what extent was George Saint Pierre Ever criticized for

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Speaker 4: anything resembling legacy preservation? Right? I mean he fought Michael Bismack.

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Speaker 4: He came back not when Luke Rockold was the undisputed

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Speaker 4: Midway champion, right, with all due respect, right, but he

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Speaker 4: came back into stating in which he was a betting

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Speaker 4: favorite to in the Middleway championship. He did not defend

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Speaker 4: that belt. Right now, I'm not saying that there was

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Speaker 4: an obvious like next guy at eighty five that he

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Speaker 4: was not necessarily willing to fight, right, but right, Robert

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Speaker 4: Whitaker was I think the guy, but right like was

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Speaker 4: George Ever criticized for trying to preserve his legacy the

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Speaker 4: way maybe John is being criticized right now?

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Speaker 5: No, I don't think he was okay, all right, so

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Speaker 5: I don't remember anyway.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So Tom Aspenall is a guy that I have

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00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 4: repeatedly put over. I absolutely love the guy. I think

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Speaker 4: he is destined for greatness and financial freedom and all

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Speaker 4: of those things. But for John Jones right to walk

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Speaker 4: off into the sunset after this fight and try to

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Speaker 4: preserve that legacy, I don't think is something that should

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Speaker 4: be judged nor criticized at this stage of his career.

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Speaker 4: I don't think that he needs that capstone that is

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Speaker 4: beating Tom aspinall Or Alex Paneda. And yes, Poleton right

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Speaker 4: now is the biggest superstar competing actively in mixed martial arts,

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Speaker 4: and I think that would be proven at the box office.

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Speaker 4: But great meritocracy. As we've said, if this was the

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Speaker 4: Anakin Florian Fighting Championships, yeah, we would make John Jones

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Speaker 4: fight Tom aspinall Or. We would probably cut the greatest

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Speaker 4: of all time, right ken Focus, We're fucking my throat

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Speaker 4: as promoters, right, absolutely, Johnny Bones. So we rule with

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Speaker 4: an iron fist, all right, So, manol Fure, I have

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Speaker 4: to get to this if I could, before we get

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Speaker 4: to doctor June Chin and then of course Aiman's a

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Speaker 4: hobby coming up before our full fledged UFC three h

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Speaker 4: nine previews. So I'm loving this back and forth publicly

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Speaker 4: between minol Fure and Valentina Chefchenko. This is going to

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Speaker 4: be the next Women's flyweight Championship fight. But Valentina Shipchenko

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Speaker 4: just in maybe her most impressive career performance to date,

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Speaker 4: defeated Alexa Grosso not all that long ago, but Manol

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Speaker 4: Fure has not been able to fight a lot over

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Speaker 4: the last several years. She did have a knee injury herself,

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Speaker 4: but by and large it's been hard for her to

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Speaker 4: get fights. And she's beaten rozami Unis and Aaron Blanchfield

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Speaker 4: back to back in twenty five minute fights. So here's

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Speaker 4: the quote from Manolf Fuore, stop making people wait. Let's

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Speaker 4: do it soon enough so I can send you to

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Speaker 4: retirement and move on. And how about this reply from

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Speaker 4: Valentina Shipchenko, you lose your retired deal ill mannered first grader.

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Speaker 4: Valentina Schefchenko called her a fucking ill mannered first grader,

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Speaker 4: and then Fu're responded, deal, I'll take you seriously when

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Speaker 4: you've signed the contract. Damn teacher's pet. So I'm liking

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Speaker 4: the back and forth. Right, one gets called a first

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Speaker 4: grader and then the other, suggesting that there's some promotional

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Speaker 4: protection going on either way. Kenny, it's a great fight.

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Speaker 4: I love the back and forth. And uh, friction is

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Speaker 4: a good thing. We didn't have any with Steve Bay

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Speaker 4: and John until like a few minutes ago, which we

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Speaker 4: will get too soon, right, So I'm excited for my

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Speaker 4: own Fu're and Valentina Shipchenko one hundred percent.

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Speaker 1: Man, bring the drama, Bring the drama.

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Speaker 5: I think it gets the fans excited, and I think

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Speaker 5: it makes fights even spicierself.

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Speaker 1: Bring it all.

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Speaker 4: Fuere undefeated in the weight class. She's won twelve and

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Speaker 4: a low, but has twelve in a row. I should

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Speaker 4: say she hasn't fought since the win over Aaron Blanchfield,

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Speaker 4: which took place in March. The row i'm a unis

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Speaker 4: win was last September, but yes, I mean John Jones.

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00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 4: It has finally been brought to his attention that step

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Speaker 4: a Miatcic called him a bit under his breath, and

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Speaker 4: perhaps that'll mean that we have some more intensity than

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Speaker 4: we otherwise with have on Thursday or Friday. All right

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Speaker 4: now with us on the guest line on this live

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Speaker 4: Veterans Day edition of the anak Imploring Podcast. She is

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Speaker 4: the chief medical officer for Leefwell, a professor at NYU

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Speaker 4: and Syracuse University, and she has been a national leader

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Speaker 4: in integrated medicine for more than twenty years. Doctor June

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Speaker 4: Shin is with us live. Doctor good to see you.

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Speaker 4: We appreciate a few minutes today how are you hi?

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Speaker 4: So we have a lot to get to with you,

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Speaker 4: So congratulations on all your success literature and otherwise. I

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Speaker 4: but medical cannabis is among the topics we're going to

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Speaker 4: need when it comes to this initiative. To what extent

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Speaker 4: are you satisfied? I guess with the progress that has

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Speaker 4: been made over the last decade or so.

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Speaker 9: I think it would be fantastic. And the ultimate progress

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Speaker 9: is it's normalized and health insurance can cover both the

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Speaker 9: cannabis and the care.

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Speaker 4: So in terms of attacking that on the day to

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Speaker 4: sort of get to a place that maybe sounded ambitious

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Speaker 4: a few years ago that now I guess is within reach.

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Speaker 9: Well, I think rescheduling is a great inflection point. You know,

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Speaker 9: I've been in the cannabis medical space for a few decades,

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Speaker 9: and you know, a lot of my colleagues, a lot

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Speaker 9: of health providers do not want to learn about cannabis medicine,

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Speaker 9: or they're shrug their shoulders. When a patient comes in

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Speaker 9: Could this be good for my insomnia? They'll usually say,

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Speaker 9: you know, I have no idea. Try going to a dispensary,

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Speaker 9: and when the patient gets the dispensary, they're not getting

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Speaker 9: any guidance. So I think things are changing. I think

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Speaker 9: some of my colleagues are realizing, whether they like it

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Speaker 9: science is following the medicine and medical cannabis has its place,

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Speaker 9: and providers and scientists and researchers really have to step

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Speaker 9: in and provide support for patients.

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Speaker 1: So, doctor, why do you think that is the case.

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Speaker 5: Why are other areas of medical personnel, why are they

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Speaker 5: of data, is a lack of education? Are they kind

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Speaker 5: of more stuck in their ways?

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Speaker 1: What do you attribute that to?

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Speaker 9: I think those are great comments. That's a little bit

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Speaker 9: of both. You know, it's still a Schedule one, so

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Speaker 9: federally it's illegal, right, so it basically is in the

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Speaker 9: category of no medical use. And I would say stigma.

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Speaker 9: A lot of health providers, you know, grew up in

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Speaker 9: the time where there's war on drugs. They were not

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Speaker 9: taught about, uh, cannabis in medical school plant as medicine.

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Speaker 9: And because they didn't go through training they are with

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Speaker 9: plant based medicine, they are just not familiar with talking

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Speaker 9: about it. And I think health providers in general are

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Speaker 9: a very conservative group.

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Speaker 5: What are the some what are some of the things

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Speaker 5: that you hear, maybe some falsehoods about cannabis that you

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Speaker 5: hear They kind of gets you to roll your eyes

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Speaker 5: a little bit and then like that, you know, what,

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Speaker 5: what are some of the common misconceptions about cannabis.

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Speaker 9: I think the one biggest common misconception is that cannabis

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Speaker 9: is a is a gateway drug. I think a lot

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Speaker 9: of providers think that if they start condoning the use

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Speaker 9: of medical cannabis to their patients. They'll just go ahead

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Speaker 9: and ask for stronger painkillers or stronger you know, benzos.

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Speaker 9: It'll just lead to stronger and stronger medication use and dependency.

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Speaker 4: And with us here on the American Podcast can flow

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Speaker 4: in terms of medical cannabis versus recreational I think it's

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Speaker 4: important to note Leefwell is a medical company, it's not

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Speaker 4: a recreational one. But you guys have helped people attack

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Speaker 4: a lot of genuine health concerns, whether it's anxiety or depression.

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Speaker 4: Can you speak to what particular conditions in which you've

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Speaker 4: seen like the most benefit for people who have committed

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Speaker 4: to medical cannabis use.

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Speaker 9: Now, we see about fifteen thousand patients per month across

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Speaker 9: thirty seven states, and we've been for the last five

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Speaker 9: years half a million lives, So we facilitate a lot

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Speaker 9: of patient care and I would say the top conditions

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Speaker 9: are chronic pain, insomnia, anxiety, and PTSD. But I do

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Speaker 9: want to note that yes, there's medication, there's medical cannabis,

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Speaker 9: and then there's recreational cannabis. But there's a fine line

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Speaker 9: between and recreational cannabis is therapeutic use, and when we

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Speaker 9: find that state have legalized from medical cannabis to adult

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Speaker 9: use cannabis or recreational cannabis, we actually see an uptick

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Speaker 9: in patients calling us in wanting more therapeutic guidance. So

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Speaker 9: there's there's an interesting play there.

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Speaker 4: Top five qualifying conditions for medical marijuana cards based on

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Speaker 4: a sample of fifteen thousand leaf Well patients anxiety, chronic pain, insomnia,

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Speaker 4: post traumatic stress disorder, and depression. And when I think

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Speaker 4: about the value of cannabis in my life over the years,

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Speaker 4: and certainly it hasn't been any sort of gateway, but

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Speaker 4: you know, sometimes it's hard for me to pinpoint the

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Speaker 4: extent to which maybe it has helped me with certain things,

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Speaker 4: whether it's sleep, even whether it's with my creative writing,

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Speaker 4: you know. But I think there have been undeniable benefits.

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Speaker 4: But I think people like me and the public eye

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Speaker 4: have been reluctant at times to talk about that. Whereas

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Speaker 4: if I can, you know, align with a tequila which

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Speaker 4: is straight poison in my system, I can get an

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Speaker 4: alcohol deal like yesterday.

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Speaker 9: Well, I think when when we're looking at this movement

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Speaker 9: towards plant based medicine, we're realizing that anxiety, chronic pain, PTSD, depression,

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Speaker 9: all of this is interrelated. If you're not sleeping well,

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Speaker 9: your depression will get worse, your chronic pain will get worse.

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Speaker 9: You know, if you've ever had a migraine and you

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Speaker 9: didn't sleep well well, your migraine is going to be

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Speaker 9: worse the next day. So everything is interrelated. And when

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Speaker 9: you look at cannabis medicine, when you look at the plant,

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Speaker 9: it's both an anti inflammatory, it's a pain reliever, right,

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Speaker 9: so you're getting to the root cause of the issue,

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Speaker 9: and it also elevates your mood. So when you think

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Speaker 9: about the different things that this plant can do, Yes,

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Speaker 9: I could prescribe four or five six different medications.

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Speaker 1: I could prescribe.

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Speaker 9: Xanax ambient, a pain reliever, anti inflammatory, or I can

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Speaker 9: have the patient try a plant based medicine first.

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Speaker 4: So to what extent when you're in a classroom as

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Speaker 4: a professor, are you teaching this and what are some

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Speaker 4: of the other things that you are that you are

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Speaker 4: teaching right now?

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Speaker 9: So I teach undergo graduates at Syracuse, so you can

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Speaker 9: actually major in cannabis science. I teach the pharmacokinetics. So basically,

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Speaker 9: why the cannabis, medicine works in your body, and NYU

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Speaker 9: they're more graduate and professional students. So I might have

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Speaker 9: a lawyer, a social worker, a physician, a lawyer, folks

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Speaker 9: that want to understand cannabis, the science behind cannabis, and

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Speaker 9: how they can apply it to their field.

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Speaker 4: So, in terms of the obstacles that maybe you encountered

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Speaker 4: early on in your career, to what extent did you

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Speaker 4: have pause in sort of pushing through with this as

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Speaker 4: far as your own professional development was concerned, knowing, right,

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Speaker 4: because we experienced it a little bit with mixed martial arts, right,

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Speaker 4: because it's still fighting, And there was a time when

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Speaker 4: I was at ESPN and MMA was the redheaded stepchild.

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Speaker 4: Kenny and I were fighting for this sport and people

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Speaker 4: are like, no, that's blood sport, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: So I think there is a little bit of a

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Speaker 4: parallel there, and I'd imagine at times you were like, oh,

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Speaker 4: I don't know if I can fully commit to cannabis.

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Speaker 4: We're glad you did well.

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Speaker 9: The first decade of my career as a young physician,

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Speaker 9: I didn't tell anyone that I was helping patients integrate

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Speaker 9: cannabis into their healthcare so number one, I just didn't

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Speaker 9: say anything. I didn't want to lose my license. I

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Speaker 9: didn't want to be labeled as the pot doctor. But

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Speaker 9: now I think, you know, a few decades later, unfortunately

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Speaker 9: it took a few decades. Things are really changing and

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Speaker 9: we see the science behind it. You know, we have

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Speaker 9: an FDA approved cannabis based medicine called EPI Dialects for seizures.

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Speaker 9: So in the beginning I could totally relate. I just

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Speaker 9: kept my mouth shut. I help patients, but I did

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Speaker 9: not advertise it.

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Speaker 5: Where do you see things going in the next five

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Speaker 5: years to ten years, doctor? Do you see a more

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Speaker 5: normalized perception of medical cannabis use.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, and we are already seeing it. I think when

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Speaker 9: the cannabis medicine gets rescheduled, I think that's going to

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Speaker 9: be a big step forward for dispensaries for medical state organizations,

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Speaker 9: so dispensaries that grow the medicine cultivated manufacture, and I

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Speaker 9: see more research more FDA based cannabis medicine too.

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Speaker 4: Doctor Juncin with us rather fittingly on this Veterans Day

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Speaker 4: edition of the antikin Florin podcast that amains a lot

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Speaker 4: of men and women who have served and fought for

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Speaker 4: our country. See the benefits to medical cannabis. How much

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Speaker 4: crossover is there for you in terms of connecting with

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Speaker 4: veterans who are leaning into medical cannabis to deal with

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Speaker 4: their everyday lives and some of the challenges post service.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: At leefwhile we have mental health specialists and a lot

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Speaker 9: of vas that come in will say, you know, I've

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Speaker 9: been on this antidepressant plus anti anxiety medication for so long,

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Speaker 9: I haven't gotten off of it, but it doesn't really help.

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Speaker 9: I do find supplementing it with medical cannabis can help

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Speaker 9: my acute panic attacks, you know, instead of my xenax.

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Speaker 9: I find that it can help me better than my ambient.

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Speaker 9: For example, I don't feel as groggy the next day,

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Speaker 9: and sometimes I have you know, veterans that I'll say,

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Speaker 9: you know what, it just helps me be a little

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Speaker 9: more comfortable in my own skin. Sometimes I'm just feeling

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Speaker 9: really unsettled and I just feel like crawling out of

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Speaker 9: my skin. And the cannabis works a lot better than alcohol.

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Speaker 9: I don't feel so dragged down the next day, and

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Speaker 9: all I need is just a little bit to uplift

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Speaker 9: my mood and to calm my nervous system down.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I've taken one xanax in my life. I will

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Speaker 4: never take another one. That is for sure. That drug

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01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:15,800
Speaker 4: is not for me. The next day, I don't even

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Speaker 4: know what plant of them on. I don't know where

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Speaker 4: I am. Leaf Well, though, is a medical company, and

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Speaker 4: if you have these genuine health concerns, it's an easy

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Speaker 4: and risk free process to get your card. Thirty eight

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Speaker 4: states are covered right now. You can get approved within minutes.

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Speaker 4: it than to need it and not have it. Doctor

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Speaker 4: Junshin on Instagram. You can follow the company at Leafwell

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Speaker 4: and you can follow doctor Chin at doctor Juneshin that

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Speaker 4: has links as well to a lot of your work.

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Speaker 4: I did a deep dive this morning the book Cannabis

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Speaker 4: and CBD for Health and Wellness. Doctor Chin, thank you

1455
01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:53,559
Speaker 4: great stuff. We appreciate you joining us today and hopefully

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Speaker 4: we can connect maybe in the next few months and

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01:09:55,920 --> 01:09:57,639
Speaker 4: see how things are going. But we appreciate your time

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Speaker 4: very much.

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Speaker 9: Thank you so much. And before I bob, i'd love

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Speaker 9: to give a special shout out to the fighters that

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Speaker 9: show their support for medical cannabis. Nate Diaz, Sean O'Malley,

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Speaker 9: Justin Gaithegee and all the fighters breaking the stigma around cannabis.

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Speaker 9: And of course we can't forget Elias Theodoreo and everything

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Speaker 9: that he contributed to advancing this medicine. So thank you

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Speaker 9: so much both for having me today.

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Speaker 4: You're giving me chills dropping that Elias Theodoro reference on

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Speaker 4: the way out. Doctor. That is very kind of you

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Speaker 4: to not just mention all of those athletes, but Elias

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Speaker 4: remains firmly in our hearts and minds a lot of

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Speaker 4: the time. Doctor June Shinn, the company is leif Well.

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Speaker 4: We appreciate your time and we'll talk to you soon.

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Speaker 9: Thanks so much, by bye.

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Speaker 4: All right, leaf Well's doctor June Shinn, chief medical officer,

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Speaker 4: joining us today here live on the program and a

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Speaker 4: lot of good information in terms of medical cannabis and

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Speaker 4: its value. So some good stuff there, all right. So

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Speaker 4: I was sort of short changed the John Jones Steve

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Speaker 4: A Miachich bitch reference a little bit, right, So in

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Speaker 4: the Countdown special they referenced they was sitting there with

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Speaker 4: his Lovely Life Wife Ryan and John Jones at UFC

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01:11:03,479 --> 01:11:05,479
Speaker 4: two eighty five beats Siel Gone and he says, you know,

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Speaker 4: I know the us he puts on the fights, and

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Speaker 4: Steve Bay said something about, you know, John Jones being

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Speaker 4: a bitch. Whatever the fuck he said. I mean, Steve

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Speaker 4: a is pretty it is the guy, right, But John

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Speaker 4: is now saying here during fight week that he's gonna

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Speaker 4: wish he didn't say that, So I hate to say, like, finally,

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Speaker 4: but it is nice because without this Kenny, I mean,

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Speaker 4: John Jones historically doesn't even look his opponent in the eyes.

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Speaker 4: He has said they're part of his journey, it's not

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Speaker 4: about them. But can I be a little bit promotionally

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Speaker 4: excited that, you know, we have something now to work

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Speaker 4: off of.

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Speaker 5: It's both a blessing and a curse because in doing

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Speaker 5: something like that and in causing this friction between yourself

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Speaker 5: and someone like John Jones, I think it builds more interest, right, Like,

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Speaker 5: oh okay, I like it.

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Speaker 1: I like this, I like this spice here, But potentially

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Speaker 1: you awaken a giant in John Jones.

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Speaker 5: It's like, do not give that guy hiddie fuel to

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Speaker 5: want to hurt you anymore? And you know John Jones's

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Speaker 5: eyes have changed since that commin Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So John Jones at one point in time came out

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Speaker 4: to a song called Angry Johnny by Puss, and I

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Speaker 4: strongly encourage you to figure out what walkout it was,

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Speaker 4: because I couldn't actually find it, but to go find

1507
01:12:19,040 --> 01:12:22,200
Speaker 4: that song. I have talked to John Jones about this song,

1508
01:12:22,280 --> 01:12:25,120
Speaker 4: but he kind of buried Angry Johnny, and that's why

1509
01:12:25,160 --> 01:12:27,479
Speaker 4: he doesn't walk out to that song anymore. He's just

1510
01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:29,439
Speaker 4: not an angry guy. And if you've ever seen a

1511
01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:32,000
Speaker 4: John Jones walk out, you know he's smiling ear to ear.

1512
01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:35,720
Speaker 4: It's an incredibly electric thing when he walks out, just

1513
01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:39,160
Speaker 4: the way he fills that tunnel Stepe, I guess set

1514
01:12:39,200 --> 01:12:41,920
Speaker 4: it on countdown sitting in an interview, Cody tells me,

1515
01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:44,639
Speaker 4: So we'll see the extent to which that gets brought

1516
01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:46,639
Speaker 4: up at the press conference. A few other things before

1517
01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:49,559
Speaker 4: we get to Amans A hobby can flow. Bitcoin went

1518
01:12:49,640 --> 01:12:52,160
Speaker 4: over eighty two thousand this morning.

1519
01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:55,640
Speaker 5: Yes, it's past eighty four thousand, on its way to

1520
01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:57,400
Speaker 5: eighty five, my friend, So we.

1521
01:12:57,479 --> 01:12:59,559
Speaker 1: So get your moon boots kid.

1522
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:02,880
Speaker 4: Well, so you actually sent a text if I could

1523
01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:04,799
Speaker 4: to me and my brother when it was at seventy

1524
01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:06,760
Speaker 4: nine and you said we might need to get back

1525
01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:09,880
Speaker 4: in here, boys, And yeah, I mean I didn't make

1526
01:13:09,880 --> 01:13:13,120
Speaker 4: the deposit, and here we are and it's over eighty five.

1527
01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:14,880
Speaker 4: But yeah, man, I just need to be buying this

1528
01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:17,479
Speaker 4: shit like every week, regardless of price. I mean, what

1529
01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:18,200
Speaker 4: are we doing here?

1530
01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:20,920
Speaker 5: I'm glad you guys trusted me on that and on

1531
01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:21,479
Speaker 5: that investment.

1532
01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:23,400
Speaker 4: No, I'm right, I mean, what kind of gift away?

1533
01:13:23,479 --> 01:13:25,960
Speaker 4: Send you a Boston coffee cake or somethingful at the

1534
01:13:26,040 --> 01:13:28,720
Speaker 4: very least. All right, One other thing that I just

1535
01:13:28,760 --> 01:13:30,800
Speaker 4: wanted to get to if I could, perhaps a little

1536
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:32,880
Speaker 4: bit self indulgent, but I wanted to shout out the

1537
01:13:32,920 --> 01:13:38,280
Speaker 4: referee drew in my daughter's soccer game this weekend. So man,

1538
01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:42,400
Speaker 4: this UFC fan base trends so young. So it's halftime

1539
01:13:42,439 --> 01:13:44,439
Speaker 4: of this game and the referee comes over to me

1540
01:13:44,479 --> 01:13:46,080
Speaker 4: and he says, hey, mister Annick, I just wanted to

1541
01:13:46,120 --> 01:13:48,400
Speaker 4: introduce myself. I heard you screaming from the sidelines. I

1542
01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:50,280
Speaker 4: thought you were going to drop a dateline Abu Dhabi

1543
01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:53,640
Speaker 4: on everybody, you know. So I walk up to this

1544
01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:57,240
Speaker 4: amazing individual after the game and I said Hey, man,

1545
01:13:57,280 --> 01:13:59,800
Speaker 4: what's your T shirt size? Medium A ladge, because I

1546
01:13:59,800 --> 01:14:02,160
Speaker 4: want to bring you a shirt next weekend, you know,

1547
01:14:02,200 --> 01:14:03,840
Speaker 4: because you'll be back f in the games. He's like,

1548
01:14:03,840 --> 01:14:05,280
Speaker 4: you're not gonna be here next week and you'll be

1549
01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:07,680
Speaker 4: with John Jones in New York City. Like, man, this

1550
01:14:07,720 --> 01:14:10,760
Speaker 4: guy's completely locked in. I'm talking about next Saturday's game,

1551
01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:13,120
Speaker 4: and he was wise enough to tell me I wasn't

1552
01:14:13,120 --> 01:14:15,320
Speaker 4: even going to be there. But it did provide an

1553
01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:17,640
Speaker 4: important reminder for me. And I have talked on the

1554
01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:20,400
Speaker 4: program a little bit in the past about worries of

1555
01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:23,840
Speaker 4: mine that I'm going to be that obnoxious coaching or

1556
01:14:24,240 --> 01:14:29,120
Speaker 4: sporting parent. And earlier in the game, this referee, who

1557
01:14:29,160 --> 01:14:32,040
Speaker 4: is a huge supporter of mine, you know, I felt

1558
01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:33,439
Speaker 4: like he was a little bit late on the trigger

1559
01:14:33,479 --> 01:14:35,920
Speaker 4: for an off sides call. So I screamed close to

1560
01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:38,160
Speaker 4: the top of my lungs, like linesman's all over it,

1561
01:14:38,479 --> 01:14:40,360
Speaker 4: you know. And then the next thing you know, this

1562
01:14:40,439 --> 01:14:42,800
Speaker 4: referee is coming up to me and saying dateline Abu Dhabi.

1563
01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:44,320
Speaker 4: So I just need to be a little bit careful

1564
01:14:45,800 --> 01:14:49,320
Speaker 4: with my treatment of officials. And but I do feel

1565
01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:53,599
Speaker 4: like these girls need vocal support and encouragement and if

1566
01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:55,479
Speaker 4: I'm going to be the loudest non coach, then that's

1567
01:14:55,520 --> 01:14:58,599
Speaker 4: the way it's going to be now with us as

1568
01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:00,400
Speaker 4: we go back out to the guest, and we are

1569
01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:03,200
Speaker 4: very happy to have this man with us. Perhaps a

1570
01:15:03,200 --> 01:15:06,040
Speaker 4: week too late, but he has a number fourteen next

1571
01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:08,000
Speaker 4: to his name. That's why we waited. We want to

1572
01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:09,960
Speaker 4: see just how high this fucking ranking was going to

1573
01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:14,360
Speaker 4: be the number fourteen ranked bandamweight contender representing the great

1574
01:15:14,360 --> 01:15:18,560
Speaker 4: TriStar Jim Montreal, Quebec, Canada. Amon's a hobby Aim and

1575
01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:21,920
Speaker 4: John Ana Kenny Floorian. Great to see your brother. Congratulations,

1576
01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:22,760
Speaker 4: how we feeling.

1577
01:15:23,560 --> 01:15:27,200
Speaker 1: Let's go, oh yeah, look at that?

1578
01:15:30,720 --> 01:15:32,240
Speaker 4: Hey? Can you hear him? Ken Flu I'm having a

1579
01:15:32,240 --> 01:15:37,599
Speaker 4: hard time you talk to you guys there he is. Well,

1580
01:15:37,640 --> 01:15:40,680
Speaker 4: congratulations man, I know you haven't lost a fight in

1581
01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:44,080
Speaker 4: more than five years, but five straight wins in the

1582
01:15:44,200 --> 01:15:47,280
Speaker 4: UFC and a number next to your name. It's a

1583
01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:50,559
Speaker 4: tremendous accomplishment, you know, because in this division it's very

1584
01:15:50,600 --> 01:15:54,000
Speaker 4: hard to realize a world title, but this is the

1585
01:15:54,120 --> 01:15:58,080
Speaker 4: step and getting a number is exceedingly difficult. I'd imagine

1586
01:15:58,120 --> 01:16:01,040
Speaker 4: you are feeling kind of on top of the world

1587
01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:03,320
Speaker 4: after what you accomplished just ten days or so ago.

1588
01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:06,520
Speaker 8: Yeah, I feel incredible. You know, it's a big accomplishment

1589
01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:06,760
Speaker 8: for me.

1590
01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:09,519
Speaker 3: I feel like part of the reason why I got

1591
01:16:09,520 --> 01:16:11,439
Speaker 3: the number was also like how I beat him. I

1592
01:16:11,479 --> 01:16:13,400
Speaker 3: feel like I'll classed him. You know, my face looks

1593
01:16:13,439 --> 01:16:16,840
Speaker 3: real good. Me, me and Kenny gsp. You know, we

1594
01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:18,680
Speaker 3: know about the JAB, you know, want to think or

1595
01:16:18,680 --> 01:16:21,040
Speaker 3: two about the jab, you know. So I was really

1596
01:16:21,040 --> 01:16:22,479
Speaker 3: happy that I was able to do that and come

1597
01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:24,000
Speaker 3: out on skates, especially.

1598
01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:24,639
Speaker 8: For like my wife and kids.

1599
01:16:24,680 --> 01:16:27,240
Speaker 3: And I'm hoping that you know, to give me an

1600
01:16:27,240 --> 01:16:28,439
Speaker 3: even smaller number next time.

1601
01:16:28,439 --> 01:16:30,000
Speaker 8: You know, I'm going to fight somebody with a good name.

1602
01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:33,600
Speaker 5: And you know, obviously I've been seeing you in the

1603
01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:35,680
Speaker 5: gym for a very long time, man, and you've been

1604
01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:38,080
Speaker 5: knocking on that door for a while. It seemed like

1605
01:16:38,160 --> 01:16:40,200
Speaker 5: everything kind of really came together for you. Was it

1606
01:16:40,320 --> 01:16:43,080
Speaker 5: this camp in particular, or is it I mean, obviously

1607
01:16:43,160 --> 01:16:44,760
Speaker 5: it's the years that you've been putting into it. But

1608
01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:47,400
Speaker 5: what's different about aman's a hobby right now?

1609
01:16:48,160 --> 01:16:49,840
Speaker 8: I mean for us, for me through hell.

1610
01:16:50,800 --> 01:16:51,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, you did good.

1611
01:16:51,880 --> 01:16:56,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, And then like it's funny because after I won.

1612
01:16:56,160 --> 01:16:58,040
Speaker 3: He told me, He's like, if you thought that was hard,

1613
01:16:58,080 --> 01:17:01,760
Speaker 3: wait for the next camp. There we go, and I

1614
01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:03,799
Speaker 3: was on it. I was back in the gym on Monday,

1615
01:17:03,880 --> 01:17:06,240
Speaker 3: even like Saturday, went straight to the hotel room, watched

1616
01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:08,240
Speaker 3: the fight over to figure out what went wrong, what

1617
01:17:08,320 --> 01:17:10,000
Speaker 3: went well, and.

1618
01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:11,639
Speaker 8: What can we build off of, and then just back

1619
01:17:11,680 --> 01:17:11,920
Speaker 8: to work.

1620
01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:13,559
Speaker 3: I've been in the gym every day, but only once

1621
01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:15,599
Speaker 3: a day, and I've been like you know, shadow boxing

1622
01:17:15,640 --> 01:17:17,599
Speaker 3: and working on a few things, just to brush up

1623
01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:20,760
Speaker 3: a couple of mistakes and just cleaning it up, you know,

1624
01:17:20,800 --> 01:17:22,160
Speaker 3: but just getting back in slowly.

1625
01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:25,439
Speaker 5: So it's for us taking it easy on you because

1626
01:17:25,479 --> 01:17:27,600
Speaker 5: your brother or his brother, or is he is he

1627
01:17:27,680 --> 01:17:31,680
Speaker 5: putting a little bit more I don't know, pressure or

1628
01:17:31,720 --> 01:17:33,280
Speaker 5: pain on his brother.

1629
01:17:33,479 --> 01:17:43,080
Speaker 1: I think I think it's probably the latter, right, Yeah.

1630
01:17:42,080 --> 01:17:44,120
Speaker 8: Yeah, he's putting all the pain on me, that's for sure.

1631
01:17:44,240 --> 01:17:47,360
Speaker 3: And I'm happy because I know Rob font joined the team,

1632
01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:50,200
Speaker 3: and so we've been doing the training.

1633
01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:51,920
Speaker 8: Camps in parallel. It worked out only a couple of

1634
01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:52,519
Speaker 8: weeks apart.

1635
01:17:52,600 --> 01:17:54,760
Speaker 3: So uh, you know, it's nice to have someone in

1636
01:17:54,760 --> 01:17:56,760
Speaker 3: the ranking too that's going side by side with me,

1637
01:17:56,840 --> 01:17:58,720
Speaker 3: you know, like Iron sharp is iron, So it's been

1638
01:17:58,720 --> 01:18:00,599
Speaker 3: great having him with me. He's a great guy, very

1639
01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:03,400
Speaker 3: consistent in his training, and I'm happy to have him.

1640
01:18:03,800 --> 01:18:07,120
Speaker 3: And you know, I'm just looking forward to what I

1641
01:18:07,120 --> 01:18:08,960
Speaker 3: can accomplish next. If I can get that much better

1642
01:18:09,080 --> 01:18:10,559
Speaker 3: for us, thinks. You know, there's a lot of room

1643
01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:14,240
Speaker 3: for improvement. So I'm hoping that. You know, he's he's

1644
01:18:14,280 --> 01:18:17,479
Speaker 3: my Phil Jackson. You know, he's my guy, So I'm

1645
01:18:17,479 --> 01:18:18,719
Speaker 3: hoping he pushes me even further.

1646
01:18:19,280 --> 01:18:21,040
Speaker 4: Amin's a hobby with us here live on the Anak

1647
01:18:21,040 --> 01:18:23,679
Speaker 4: and Florian podcast. So here's what you wrote about your

1648
01:18:23,680 --> 01:18:26,519
Speaker 4: brother faras a hobby on Instagram after the fact. And

1649
01:18:27,040 --> 01:18:29,080
Speaker 4: I brought this to the show in part because Kenny

1650
01:18:29,160 --> 01:18:32,639
Speaker 4: and I are exceedingly close with our brothers. God blessed

1651
01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:34,320
Speaker 4: me with an amazing brother. A huge thank you to

1652
01:18:34,360 --> 01:18:36,320
Speaker 4: Faros for pouring his heart and soul into my journey.

1653
01:18:36,320 --> 01:18:38,760
Speaker 4: Your dedication and sacrifices have made all the difference in

1654
01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:40,960
Speaker 4: reaching the top fifteen in the UFC. I'm so lucky

1655
01:18:40,960 --> 01:18:44,360
Speaker 4: to have you by my side. I'm wondering if you

1656
01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:47,200
Speaker 4: can speak to the sacrifice a little bit, because I

1657
01:18:47,240 --> 01:18:49,680
Speaker 4: know how much you have sacrificed and Kenny is so

1658
01:18:49,840 --> 01:18:52,439
Speaker 4: happy that you're realizing all this success. But when you

1659
01:18:52,520 --> 01:18:59,200
Speaker 4: think about Farass's brotherly sacrifice here, what exactly is front

1660
01:18:59,240 --> 01:19:01,439
Speaker 4: of mind for you? You think about all he's devoted

1661
01:19:01,479 --> 01:19:02,360
Speaker 4: to your career.

1662
01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:07,439
Speaker 3: Like if you were in training camp with us, you'd

1663
01:19:07,479 --> 01:19:09,920
Speaker 3: realize how on edge my brother gets because you know,

1664
01:19:10,120 --> 01:19:11,920
Speaker 3: I'm his baby brother. That's why I put that picture

1665
01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:13,920
Speaker 3: of you know, like now when you see us side

1666
01:19:13,920 --> 01:19:15,960
Speaker 3: by side, you don't realize the age difference.

1667
01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:18,599
Speaker 8: You know, there's eight year difference. He raised me like

1668
01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:19,320
Speaker 8: he's my father.

1669
01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:21,640
Speaker 3: So I kind of put that picture so people have

1670
01:19:21,680 --> 01:19:24,240
Speaker 3: an idea of like how much he's into it.

1671
01:19:24,680 --> 01:19:26,639
Speaker 8: And you know, he watches tape, he studies.

1672
01:19:26,680 --> 01:19:28,439
Speaker 3: He's always looking for the next big thing that we

1673
01:19:28,479 --> 01:19:31,280
Speaker 3: need to work on. What's the modern game of jitsu

1674
01:19:31,400 --> 01:19:33,680
Speaker 3: going towards like how can we stick stick to the

1675
01:19:33,720 --> 01:19:36,439
Speaker 3: modern game, And he's always looking for how can.

1676
01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:38,160
Speaker 8: We improve striking? Like you know, if you watch me

1677
01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:41,479
Speaker 8: fight my striking, I'm not a kickboxer. I'm not a boxer.

1678
01:19:41,479 --> 01:19:42,160
Speaker 8: I'm not a muyta.

1679
01:19:42,280 --> 01:19:44,479
Speaker 3: I don't fit in any mold, you know, I think

1680
01:19:44,520 --> 01:19:47,759
Speaker 3: like the best pieces of the different styles. I'm basically

1681
01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:50,599
Speaker 3: shapeless and formless, you know, and for us really works

1682
01:19:50,640 --> 01:19:55,080
Speaker 3: on making sure that I fight to the tactics that

1683
01:19:55,160 --> 01:19:57,559
Speaker 3: needed for my opponent. And you know, he pours himself

1684
01:19:57,560 --> 01:19:59,960
Speaker 3: in the research and I just have to do the labor.

1685
01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:02,280
Speaker 3: I have to do the work, you know, and I

1686
01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:05,000
Speaker 3: like that he doesn't. You know, I'm also doing some thinking,

1687
01:20:05,040 --> 01:20:06,679
Speaker 3: but you know, he does a lot more of the thinking.

1688
01:20:07,000 --> 01:20:09,479
Speaker 3: And in terms of finances too, you know, if I've

1689
01:20:09,479 --> 01:20:12,919
Speaker 3: never needed any sponsor, is really like big money sponsors

1690
01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:14,640
Speaker 3: to really come help out, because you know, Frost has

1691
01:20:14,680 --> 01:20:17,519
Speaker 3: always got my back and him having the connections in

1692
01:20:17,560 --> 01:20:19,320
Speaker 3: the MMA world, we have access to a lot of

1693
01:20:19,320 --> 01:20:22,080
Speaker 3: different training partners that can fly in and help us out.

1694
01:20:22,520 --> 01:20:24,519
Speaker 3: So it's a nice to have for us because he's

1695
01:20:24,520 --> 01:20:28,439
Speaker 3: great connections and he's very supportive and he gives his

1696
01:20:28,479 --> 01:20:28,800
Speaker 3: body on.

1697
01:20:28,880 --> 01:20:29,960
Speaker 8: He puts his body on the line.

1698
01:20:29,960 --> 01:20:32,519
Speaker 3: Like we're hitting pads five days a week and sometimes

1699
01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:34,840
Speaker 3: twice in a day, and I hit like a truck. Boys,

1700
01:20:34,920 --> 01:20:36,840
Speaker 3: let me tell you I had one day for us,

1701
01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:38,679
Speaker 3: wasn't there because you had to go corner two guys

1702
01:20:38,680 --> 01:20:40,679
Speaker 3: who were fighting on two separate cards in a week.

1703
01:20:41,000 --> 01:20:42,960
Speaker 3: So one of my other quartermen held pads for me

1704
01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:46,519
Speaker 3: and the guy couldn't move for three days. Yeah, and

1705
01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:48,759
Speaker 3: then for Ust is just doing it for three months straight,

1706
01:20:48,880 --> 01:20:50,639
Speaker 3: you know. So it's interesting and I'm not the only

1707
01:20:50,640 --> 01:20:51,519
Speaker 3: guy he holds pads for.

1708
01:20:51,760 --> 01:20:54,160
Speaker 4: Of course, Kenny, was it the last three or four

1709
01:20:54,160 --> 01:20:57,280
Speaker 4: of your fights that foras a hobby was your chief corner? Yes?

1710
01:20:57,600 --> 01:20:59,720
Speaker 5: After bj Penn, I started working with for Us on

1711
01:20:59,720 --> 01:21:02,839
Speaker 5: a full time basis. And you know, he's a brilliant,

1712
01:21:02,880 --> 01:21:06,479
Speaker 5: brilliant dude who's always researching, like like Amon said, and

1713
01:21:07,080 --> 01:21:08,800
Speaker 5: he helped me in my career a lot.

1714
01:21:09,760 --> 01:21:12,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, he your brother and you two, but he's a

1715
01:21:12,120 --> 01:21:14,799
Speaker 4: total gangster at a genius, and he has this aura

1716
01:21:14,840 --> 01:21:17,759
Speaker 4: about him. It's not that I get starstruck around faras

1717
01:21:17,800 --> 01:21:19,479
Speaker 4: a hobby, but I do get a little bit starstruck

1718
01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:26,360
Speaker 4: around so outside of martial arts, I'd imagine there are

1719
01:21:26,360 --> 01:21:28,559
Speaker 4: a lot of things that you're better than your brother at. Right,

1720
01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:31,360
Speaker 4: what's one thing that you are better than farast Well.

1721
01:21:31,240 --> 01:21:33,520
Speaker 8: People say I'm more handsome, that's for one.

1722
01:21:36,800 --> 01:21:40,240
Speaker 3: Listen, he's not gonna accept this, but I'm better than

1723
01:21:40,280 --> 01:21:41,880
Speaker 3: him at Madden, and I'm better than him.

1724
01:21:41,760 --> 01:21:44,639
Speaker 8: As street fighter. Okay, and I'm.

1725
01:21:44,479 --> 01:21:46,760
Speaker 3: Willing to put that on the line if we if

1726
01:21:46,760 --> 01:21:49,240
Speaker 3: we want to stream it, I'm ready to stream it. Man,

1727
01:21:49,320 --> 01:21:51,720
Speaker 3: we play back to back, you know what I mean.

1728
01:21:51,800 --> 01:21:54,080
Speaker 8: It is what it is. But you know, we've been playing.

1729
01:21:54,320 --> 01:21:55,559
Speaker 8: We've been competing our whole lives.

1730
01:21:55,560 --> 01:21:58,040
Speaker 3: That's how brothers are, our four brothers going up, right,

1731
01:21:58,200 --> 01:22:02,640
Speaker 3: We've been at each other's throats, whether it's you know, grappling, wrestling, striking.

1732
01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:05,320
Speaker 8: Video games, running, jumping whatever.

1733
01:22:06,160 --> 01:22:08,080
Speaker 3: Right, So there's always a few things, you know, always

1734
01:22:08,160 --> 01:22:10,160
Speaker 3: very competitive, but also always in a really good way.

1735
01:22:10,479 --> 01:22:12,320
Speaker 8: But yeah, yeah, no, definitely.

1736
01:22:12,320 --> 01:22:14,320
Speaker 3: But you know, he always tell everyone that he has

1737
01:22:14,320 --> 01:22:15,920
Speaker 3: a higher IQ than me, that's for sure.

1738
01:22:16,439 --> 01:22:18,840
Speaker 4: Ha Aman's a hobby with us here on the Anakin

1739
01:22:18,880 --> 01:22:22,400
Speaker 4: Floorian podcast. I think you're like eight days in front

1740
01:22:22,400 --> 01:22:24,559
Speaker 4: of your thirty seventh birthday. Is that accurate?

1741
01:22:25,120 --> 01:22:25,280
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1742
01:22:25,360 --> 01:22:27,160
Speaker 8: But I feel great. I feel twenty seven. Boys, I

1743
01:22:27,160 --> 01:22:28,000
Speaker 8: don't feel.

1744
01:22:29,320 --> 01:22:31,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, I mean your wife.

1745
01:22:31,160 --> 01:22:32,720
Speaker 8: I'm like, yo, you better get in shape because I

1746
01:22:32,720 --> 01:22:34,000
Speaker 8: feel young Like you better.

1747
01:22:34,560 --> 01:22:36,920
Speaker 3: Baby, that's gonna get it in shape because this boy

1748
01:22:36,960 --> 01:22:38,320
Speaker 3: is getting younger well.

1749
01:22:38,400 --> 01:22:40,559
Speaker 4: Right. And in terms of the MMA, Miles, there have

1750
01:22:40,640 --> 01:22:43,320
Speaker 4: been some injuries that have resulted in some time off

1751
01:22:43,360 --> 01:22:47,679
Speaker 4: but last lost twenty nineteen and yeah in fine Fedal,

1752
01:22:47,720 --> 01:22:49,840
Speaker 4: as the Brits would say, at thirty seven years of age.

1753
01:22:49,880 --> 01:22:52,360
Speaker 4: So in terms of your next fight, it is interesting

1754
01:22:52,400 --> 01:22:54,920
Speaker 4: because Rob font is a guy potentially that would have

1755
01:22:54,960 --> 01:22:56,559
Speaker 4: showed up in your bracket. Now, of course, you guys

1756
01:22:56,600 --> 01:22:59,400
Speaker 4: are teammates and you're not gonna fight, but there are

1757
01:22:59,439 --> 01:23:01,720
Speaker 4: several things working in your favor when it comes to

1758
01:23:01,720 --> 01:23:04,120
Speaker 4: the matchmaking process. Chief among them, you now have a

1759
01:23:04,200 --> 01:23:05,840
Speaker 4: number next to your name, which opens up a lot

1760
01:23:05,840 --> 01:23:07,679
Speaker 4: of fights. I don't have to tell you that there's

1761
01:23:07,680 --> 01:23:10,599
Speaker 4: a hobby. Surname obviously rings true with a lot of people.

1762
01:23:11,120 --> 01:23:13,920
Speaker 4: But most important might just be the five fight winning streak,

1763
01:23:14,000 --> 01:23:15,800
Speaker 4: which is going to be appealing for one of these

1764
01:23:15,800 --> 01:23:18,240
Speaker 4: other Bandam weights to try to end it. So of

1765
01:23:18,280 --> 01:23:20,799
Speaker 4: the names that are out there, some are off a loss,

1766
01:23:21,200 --> 01:23:24,360
Speaker 4: some are off a win, but bro, they're all big names,

1767
01:23:24,400 --> 01:23:27,680
Speaker 4: whether it's Corey Samdhagen or Jose Aldo or Marlon Chido Vera,

1768
01:23:27,760 --> 01:23:31,920
Speaker 4: Henry Shudo. What can you tell us as to a

1769
01:23:31,960 --> 01:23:34,880
Speaker 4: timeline and who you realistically think is going to be

1770
01:23:34,920 --> 01:23:37,160
Speaker 4: the name or two that might show up in your breacket?

1771
01:23:37,280 --> 01:23:39,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, like it might sound selfish, but I

1772
01:23:39,760 --> 01:23:42,160
Speaker 3: think because of my fight fight win streak, I want

1773
01:23:42,160 --> 01:23:44,560
Speaker 3: somebody with a smaller number, Like I'm not ready to

1774
01:23:44,560 --> 01:23:46,600
Speaker 3: give a guy a chance that's behind me, right, I

1775
01:23:46,640 --> 01:23:47,680
Speaker 3: want somebody ahead of me.

1776
01:23:47,920 --> 01:23:48,120
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1777
01:23:48,160 --> 01:23:51,040
Speaker 3: I know, sometimes the top fifteen guys, like between ten

1778
01:23:51,080 --> 01:23:53,599
Speaker 3: and fifteen, they usually fight guys behind them, like outside

1779
01:23:53,640 --> 01:23:56,000
Speaker 3: the top fifteen. But I think with the momentum, let's

1780
01:23:56,040 --> 01:23:59,360
Speaker 3: go forward, you know, give me another chance for forward momentum.

1781
01:23:59,720 --> 01:24:02,360
Speaker 8: And I'm really excited because they said that they're coming in.

1782
01:24:02,520 --> 01:24:05,080
Speaker 3: There's a rumor that they're coming first quarter of next

1783
01:24:05,120 --> 01:24:08,320
Speaker 3: year to Canada. So if they are, I was really

1784
01:24:08,360 --> 01:24:10,719
Speaker 3: like that because I feel like I've been really blowing

1785
01:24:10,760 --> 01:24:12,639
Speaker 3: up my name in Canada, especially in the last two

1786
01:24:12,640 --> 01:24:16,040
Speaker 3: performances here, so ideally it would be a bigger name

1787
01:24:16,800 --> 01:24:18,799
Speaker 3: with a lower number in Canada.

1788
01:24:18,960 --> 01:24:20,480
Speaker 8: That's really what I want.

1789
01:24:20,680 --> 01:24:23,679
Speaker 4: I don't want to do any Canada Canadian on Canadian

1790
01:24:23,680 --> 01:24:25,400
Speaker 4: crime right here. But let me just ask you. I

1791
01:24:25,400 --> 01:24:28,559
Speaker 4: didn't plan this at all. But Mike Malot right, obviously,

1792
01:24:28,560 --> 01:24:31,080
Speaker 4: he responded really well to that loss. He's a great

1793
01:24:31,160 --> 01:24:33,479
Speaker 4: fucking guy, right, But is any part of Aman's a

1794
01:24:33,479 --> 01:24:36,120
Speaker 4: hobby as Mike Malott is getting all of this shine

1795
01:24:36,160 --> 01:24:38,719
Speaker 4: and getting featured on paper, you're thinking like I've fucking

1796
01:24:38,800 --> 01:24:40,800
Speaker 4: pin here and done that. I gotta wait for Like

1797
01:24:40,840 --> 01:24:42,720
Speaker 4: what about me? Is any part of you thinking like,

1798
01:24:42,880 --> 01:24:45,360
Speaker 4: hey man, I can carry the torch for Canada Because

1799
01:24:45,400 --> 01:24:47,599
Speaker 4: there were times when talking heads like me, we're talking

1800
01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:49,479
Speaker 4: about Mike Mallatt and maybe we should have been talking

1801
01:24:49,479 --> 01:24:49,840
Speaker 4: about you.

1802
01:24:50,400 --> 01:24:52,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, like obviously there's no hate towards Mike

1803
01:24:52,840 --> 01:24:55,000
Speaker 3: because he can't control it. But I saw him in

1804
01:24:55,040 --> 01:24:57,799
Speaker 3: the lobby after we both want our fights in Edmonton,

1805
01:24:58,320 --> 01:25:01,080
Speaker 3: and I told him something that I realized only last

1806
01:25:01,479 --> 01:25:03,600
Speaker 3: during fight week when I finished media day on the

1807
01:25:03,640 --> 01:25:05,439
Speaker 3: Wednesday for a fight week and I did the scrum

1808
01:25:05,439 --> 01:25:08,160
Speaker 3: and I did all the interviews. I came out there

1809
01:25:08,200 --> 01:25:10,680
Speaker 3: feeling so hype because everyone was so nice to me

1810
01:25:10,760 --> 01:25:13,479
Speaker 3: because I had one four straight. Then I came to

1811
01:25:13,520 --> 01:25:17,080
Speaker 3: the realization that the media is a double edged sword.

1812
01:25:17,640 --> 01:25:19,680
Speaker 3: When you do bad and they talk trash about you,

1813
01:25:19,760 --> 01:25:22,519
Speaker 3: they cut you. When you do good and they hype you,

1814
01:25:22,560 --> 01:25:25,439
Speaker 3: if you believe that hype, it cuts you because if

1815
01:25:25,479 --> 01:25:28,240
Speaker 3: you've developed that ego, you're gonna under esimate your guy.

1816
01:25:28,280 --> 01:25:30,920
Speaker 8: You're not gonna fight to your potential. So if I

1817
01:25:30,960 --> 01:25:32,160
Speaker 8: truly believe.

1818
01:25:32,200 --> 01:25:34,840
Speaker 3: They don't know much about fighting because they've never done it.

1819
01:25:35,439 --> 01:25:37,640
Speaker 3: I can't believe them when they speak well about me,

1820
01:25:37,720 --> 01:25:39,760
Speaker 3: and I can't believe them when they talk bad about me.

1821
01:25:39,800 --> 01:25:42,120
Speaker 3: And that's why I told Mike Maule, I said, listen, brother,

1822
01:25:42,760 --> 01:25:43,720
Speaker 3: they talk trash about you.

1823
01:25:43,720 --> 01:25:45,320
Speaker 8: Don't forget the three on the bus. And not just

1824
01:25:45,320 --> 01:25:47,160
Speaker 8: because they're gonna talk good about you now doesn't mean

1825
01:25:47,200 --> 01:25:48,920
Speaker 8: you get the right to believe them. Don't believe in

1826
01:25:48,960 --> 01:25:49,439
Speaker 8: me either way.

1827
01:25:49,520 --> 01:25:52,919
Speaker 3: The only people you believe is your coaching staff, your teammates,

1828
01:25:52,960 --> 01:25:54,040
Speaker 3: and other people your peers.

1829
01:25:54,080 --> 01:25:56,479
Speaker 8: Like me, I see the potential in you. My brother

1830
01:25:56,520 --> 01:25:58,240
Speaker 8: sees the potential. These are the guys that have.

1831
01:25:58,400 --> 01:26:02,479
Speaker 3: Opinions that weighe something so good or bad. I don't

1832
01:26:02,720 --> 01:26:04,800
Speaker 3: care what the media says about me. I'm gonna just

1833
01:26:04,880 --> 01:26:07,519
Speaker 3: keep trucking along. And I believe in myself and my

1834
01:26:07,560 --> 01:26:09,599
Speaker 3: team believes in me, and that's we know where we're headed.

1835
01:26:10,120 --> 01:26:12,799
Speaker 4: In part. You are now media though, and I'm curious

1836
01:26:12,840 --> 01:26:16,000
Speaker 4: how you've navigated right. No, we're going to get to

1837
01:26:16,000 --> 01:26:18,760
Speaker 4: your television career. You're budding TV career, But how have

1838
01:26:18,840 --> 01:26:21,360
Speaker 4: you navigated being critical of fighters. I've had a lot

1839
01:26:21,400 --> 01:26:24,040
Speaker 4: of conversations with Anthony Smith about this, who's still on

1840
01:26:24,120 --> 01:26:28,120
Speaker 4: the active roster and he's not being paid to make friends.

1841
01:26:28,160 --> 01:26:30,719
Speaker 4: I know, maybe American TV is a little bit different

1842
01:26:30,840 --> 01:26:33,479
Speaker 4: than what you're experiencing right now, but how are you

1843
01:26:33,600 --> 01:26:38,760
Speaker 4: navigating the very real reality. I guess, for lack of

1844
01:26:38,760 --> 01:26:41,040
Speaker 4: a better word, that you have to criticize your fellow fighters.

1845
01:26:41,040 --> 01:26:43,639
Speaker 8: Now, yeah, that's the toughest spot.

1846
01:26:43,680 --> 01:26:46,640
Speaker 3: So I try to do it from like a coach's perspective,

1847
01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:49,880
Speaker 3: Like I talk to them like when I'm doing the media,

1848
01:26:49,880 --> 01:26:52,000
Speaker 3: when I'm doing the analyst job, I speak to them

1849
01:26:52,040 --> 01:26:55,479
Speaker 3: as if I'm their coach, because even as their coach,

1850
01:26:55,720 --> 01:26:57,360
Speaker 3: I have to tell them what's up. But I have

1851
01:26:57,400 --> 01:27:00,120
Speaker 3: to do it in a way that doesn't discourage them, right,

1852
01:27:00,120 --> 01:27:01,599
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna tell them, hey, listen, man, this isn't

1853
01:27:01,600 --> 01:27:02,920
Speaker 3: working too well. This is kind of what you got

1854
01:27:02,920 --> 01:27:05,760
Speaker 3: to look forward to. So there there is advice with

1855
01:27:05,840 --> 01:27:09,240
Speaker 3: the criticism in a way just to like soften the blow.

1856
01:27:09,439 --> 01:27:11,920
Speaker 3: And because like even like on Saturday, I did a

1857
01:27:11,960 --> 01:27:13,360
Speaker 3: live and I'm not gonna lie.

1858
01:27:13,360 --> 01:27:16,360
Speaker 8: I think the ritter's performance was a little bit lackluster.

1859
01:27:16,400 --> 01:27:19,400
Speaker 3: I'd never watched him fight before, but I was shocked

1860
01:27:19,520 --> 01:27:21,479
Speaker 3: about how he takes punches and I didn't think he

1861
01:27:21,520 --> 01:27:23,560
Speaker 3: took them super well. Yeah, and the mire carts not

1862
01:27:23,600 --> 01:27:25,120
Speaker 3: a big, big, big striker.

1863
01:27:25,400 --> 01:27:28,080
Speaker 8: I didn't like his cardio. Man, they were both.

1864
01:27:27,920 --> 01:27:30,200
Speaker 3: Fatigued, holding each other's hands, laying down and the after

1865
01:27:30,280 --> 01:27:31,800
Speaker 3: how long did it take for them to stand up?

1866
01:27:32,120 --> 01:27:34,080
Speaker 3: You know? I mean, it's obviously not great for me,

1867
01:27:34,200 --> 01:27:35,760
Speaker 3: Like I don't I don't want to bump into them

1868
01:27:35,800 --> 01:27:37,920
Speaker 3: and they want to fight me, sure, but you know

1869
01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:39,640
Speaker 3: I have to tell them like, hey, man, listen, this

1870
01:27:39,720 --> 01:27:42,599
Speaker 3: is the truth. UFC is not one FC. It's here

1871
01:27:42,640 --> 01:27:45,160
Speaker 3: with the big dogs now. And I mean that in

1872
01:27:45,200 --> 01:27:48,120
Speaker 3: the most positive way. But if everybody ever needs advice,

1873
01:27:48,439 --> 01:27:49,559
Speaker 3: I'm always there to give it.

1874
01:27:49,600 --> 01:27:49,760
Speaker 6: You know.

1875
01:27:50,320 --> 01:27:52,320
Speaker 4: Well, I love listening to you, and I really think

1876
01:27:52,360 --> 01:27:55,519
Speaker 4: that you should set the goals high as far as

1877
01:27:55,560 --> 01:27:57,840
Speaker 4: what you can do in television, because I really think

1878
01:27:57,840 --> 01:27:59,600
Speaker 4: that you have a lot of potential there. All right,

1879
01:27:59,640 --> 01:28:01,720
Speaker 4: A couple quick hit questions on the way out with

1880
01:28:01,840 --> 01:28:05,360
Speaker 4: the butting UFC bantam weaight contender, Amen's a hobby thirty

1881
01:28:05,360 --> 01:28:08,640
Speaker 4: six going on twenty seven, All right. Toughest matchup for

1882
01:28:08,760 --> 01:28:11,160
Speaker 4: you at one hundred and thirty five pounds of these

1883
01:28:11,200 --> 01:28:14,880
Speaker 4: three guys, Marob Dwallers, will let Umar Nrmago Medov or

1884
01:28:14,960 --> 01:28:17,760
Speaker 4: Shan O'Malley toughest guy of those three for you to be.

1885
01:28:21,320 --> 01:28:24,719
Speaker 3: I'm assuming Umar because he's got two out of three.

1886
01:28:24,800 --> 01:28:27,840
Speaker 3: I feel like Morav only has one, you know, and

1887
01:28:28,479 --> 01:28:30,560
Speaker 3: I think the least would be Seana Malley.

1888
01:28:31,280 --> 01:28:34,920
Speaker 4: All right, greatest bandam weight of all time, Domina Cruz

1889
01:28:34,960 --> 01:28:39,080
Speaker 4: al Jamaine Sterling or somebody else Domina Cruz all right,

1890
01:28:39,120 --> 01:28:42,640
Speaker 4: and then factor fiction. Your next opponent comes out of

1891
01:28:42,680 --> 01:28:48,360
Speaker 4: these four names. Jose Aldo, Marlon, Chito Vera, Henry Sahudo,

1892
01:28:49,080 --> 01:28:49,919
Speaker 4: Cory Sandheig.

1893
01:28:50,800 --> 01:28:51,479
Speaker 8: I'll be sick.

1894
01:28:52,920 --> 01:28:53,760
Speaker 4: I'm trying.

1895
01:28:54,280 --> 01:28:55,920
Speaker 8: I'll be sick. I'm hoping, you know.

1896
01:28:55,960 --> 01:28:59,080
Speaker 4: I mean, I know it's well right, That's what I'm saying.

1897
01:28:59,120 --> 01:29:01,360
Speaker 4: Like I know the song Don't Fight would be fun too.

1898
01:29:01,360 --> 01:29:03,599
Speaker 4: But I have four big names here, and I think

1899
01:29:03,640 --> 01:29:07,599
Speaker 4: they're all within the realm of possibility, you know, all.

1900
01:29:07,600 --> 01:29:07,960
Speaker 8: They're all for.

1901
01:29:08,120 --> 01:29:09,479
Speaker 3: You know, it would be great, you know, I even

1902
01:29:09,520 --> 01:29:13,160
Speaker 3: like backstage this last time, because you know, like obviously

1903
01:29:13,160 --> 01:29:16,000
Speaker 3: I have these mantras right for every fight and things.

1904
01:29:15,880 --> 01:29:18,920
Speaker 8: Like that, and one of my mantras was I love

1905
01:29:18,960 --> 01:29:21,160
Speaker 8: the pain. That another fight was I love the fear.

1906
01:29:22,000 --> 01:29:24,479
Speaker 3: And for us, like this time backstage, like before we

1907
01:29:24,520 --> 01:29:26,120
Speaker 3: walked out, I finished all my warm up and I'm

1908
01:29:26,160 --> 01:29:28,519
Speaker 3: just like pacing, ready to make the walk on my own.

1909
01:29:29,120 --> 01:29:31,200
Speaker 3: And if Us was telling me my old mantra is

1910
01:29:31,240 --> 01:29:33,720
Speaker 3: to like, you know, like to relieve my stress, and

1911
01:29:33,760 --> 01:29:35,479
Speaker 3: he's like, you don't forget. You love the pain, you

1912
01:29:35,520 --> 01:29:37,320
Speaker 3: love the fear. It's gonna set you free. And I

1913
01:29:37,360 --> 01:29:38,920
Speaker 3: walked up to him, I went to shake his head.

1914
01:29:38,960 --> 01:29:41,680
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm living the dream. Baby, There's nowhere else

1915
01:29:41,680 --> 01:29:44,360
Speaker 3: I'd rather be. And I never felt so like so

1916
01:29:44,600 --> 01:29:47,160
Speaker 3: sure that I've got my my game down.

1917
01:29:47,240 --> 01:29:48,800
Speaker 8: Pat, I'm going to go out there and I'm just

1918
01:29:48,800 --> 01:29:50,640
Speaker 8: gonna live the dream. I'm gonna live it.

1919
01:29:50,680 --> 01:29:50,880
Speaker 6: Now.

1920
01:29:51,280 --> 01:29:52,120
Speaker 4: We're thrilled for you.

1921
01:29:52,200 --> 01:29:52,400
Speaker 1: Man.

1922
01:29:52,680 --> 01:29:56,920
Speaker 4: Well, pain is your mistress as you continue to embrace

1923
01:29:56,960 --> 01:30:01,559
Speaker 4: the journey and live the hobby. On Instagram, at Aman

1924
01:30:01,640 --> 01:30:05,400
Speaker 4: Zahabi spelled ai E M A double n my man

1925
01:30:05,439 --> 01:30:08,519
Speaker 4: continued success on all fronts, and I just hope I

1926
01:30:08,560 --> 01:30:10,800
Speaker 4: get the assignment the next time that you're competing. I

1927
01:30:10,800 --> 01:30:12,679
Speaker 4: hope it's live on pay per view, but you deserve

1928
01:30:12,760 --> 01:30:15,240
Speaker 4: everything that you have earned, my man, and we're happy

1929
01:30:15,240 --> 01:30:23,000
Speaker 4: to have fifteen minutes with you today, young man. All right,

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Speaker 4: I don't know if we lost it, but that was

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Speaker 4: my into there is, guys.

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Speaker 3: If anybody wants to learn from for us, you can

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Speaker 3: check out Juji club dot com.

1934
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Speaker 4: Juji Club dot com. Bro Thank you, brother, thank you guys.

1935
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Speaker 4: See you all right there. He is the UFC bandam

1936
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Speaker 4: Wick contender, Aiman Zahabi after a big winning Edmonton against

1937
01:30:40,600 --> 01:30:43,800
Speaker 4: Pedro Munios, Camflow can't stop smiling. It's really incredible when

1938
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Speaker 4: you think about I don't know if it was the

1939
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Speaker 4: Hickardohamos loss in twenty nineteen or whatever, it was five

1940
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Speaker 4: straight wins for this kid and talking like he's got

1941
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Speaker 4: legitimate championship aspirations.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Well, I've always seen a lot of potential in aiming

1944
01:30:58,520 --> 01:31:01,680
Speaker 5: and obviously so well coached, and this is a guy

1945
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Speaker 5: who really puts in the work, really has done the homework,

1946
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Speaker 5: and now getting that experience is one thing to do

1947
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Speaker 5: in the gym, it's another to do in the cage.

1948
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Speaker 1: He's now doing it in the cage and I expect

1949
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Speaker 1: big things from him. Man.

1950
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Speaker 4: One of the toughest things for a now ranked contender

1951
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Speaker 4: like aman Zahaby can be to get that next big

1952
01:31:18,200 --> 01:31:21,080
Speaker 4: fight right and right. He doesn't care if it's Corey

1953
01:31:21,120 --> 01:31:23,040
Speaker 4: sand Haagen coming off a loss. Just give me one

1954
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Speaker 4: of those big names. And we've talked in the past

1955
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Speaker 4: about the iron lung Paul Felder. I think he got

1956
01:31:27,720 --> 01:31:29,400
Speaker 4: as high as number six or seven in the world,

1957
01:31:29,439 --> 01:31:31,960
Speaker 4: but he could never get that Dustin Porier or Justin

1958
01:31:32,000 --> 01:31:36,160
Speaker 4: Gatchee fight that might have opened things up financially and otherwise.

1959
01:31:36,320 --> 01:31:40,160
Speaker 4: And I love seeing teams of hobby celebrate this ranking

1960
01:31:40,160 --> 01:31:42,200
Speaker 4: in this five fight winning street, because not everybody can

1961
01:31:42,200 --> 01:31:45,040
Speaker 4: be a world champion right now. The question is can

1962
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Speaker 4: he get that big fight against one of those big

1963
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Speaker 4: names and win that fight and then you're off and running.

1964
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Speaker 5: Say, this sport is brutal, man, and it's never been tougher,

1965
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Speaker 5: and to be ranked in the UFC is a big

1966
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Speaker 5: effing deal.

1967
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Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, thanks to aman Zahaby. Now go three

1968
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Speaker 4: wide once again as we welcome on our chief handicapper.

1969
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Speaker 4: He is big gun. Brian Petrie off another big week.

1970
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Speaker 4: How are we doing, man? Tough one for the Bengals.

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Speaker 10: God Hey, yeah, another one score loss, had it, had

1972
01:32:15,400 --> 01:32:19,240
Speaker 10: it again? But yeah, you know, we keep moving, We

1973
01:32:19,360 --> 01:32:21,040
Speaker 10: keep moving. We don't talk about that joby.

1974
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Speaker 4: Well, part of me brings it up in the context

1975
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Speaker 4: of your sweatshirt.

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Speaker 6: Right.

1977
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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I'm always rocking, but I still kind of

1978
01:32:28,920 --> 01:32:30,640
Speaker 4: think you could take a flyer on a Bengals to

1979
01:32:30,680 --> 01:32:33,600
Speaker 4: win the whole goddamn thing on any given Sunday with

1980
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Speaker 4: number nine spinning it.

1981
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Speaker 10: You know, I tell you, I mean number nine is

1982
01:32:36,840 --> 01:32:39,800
Speaker 10: having an MVP like year. Our defense, our defense are

1983
01:32:39,800 --> 01:32:42,120
Speaker 10: great first half. If they just kept it up, we

1984
01:32:42,160 --> 01:32:44,240
Speaker 10: would have won the game. But yeah, that's the then

1985
01:32:44,280 --> 01:32:46,200
Speaker 10: the breakdown. But I wore this out the other day

1986
01:32:46,240 --> 01:32:48,639
Speaker 10: and some guy goes, man, I want to be wearing

1987
01:32:48,640 --> 01:32:50,400
Speaker 10: that hoodie. It's like, what am I supposed to just

1988
01:32:50,479 --> 01:32:53,120
Speaker 10: burn on my clothes because we lost a fucking game?

1989
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Speaker 4: God get out, all right, So Pronunciation of the Week

1990
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Speaker 4: is back. Yeah, So I've got a few files today

1991
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Speaker 4: and we will get a few of them expeditiously. Well,

1992
01:33:04,760 --> 01:33:07,200
Speaker 4: the only one that you prepared for was a young

1993
01:33:07,280 --> 01:33:09,200
Speaker 4: lady competing in the first five. The night she'll take

1994
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Speaker 4: on Veronica Hardy. She fights out of Salvador, but here Brazil,

1995
01:33:13,160 --> 01:33:16,720
Speaker 4: same campus ja yelton Almeta Galpaudaluta. She is one of

1996
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Speaker 4: one of the UFC and uh, we just would like

1997
01:33:20,240 --> 01:33:23,719
Speaker 4: to hear you pronounce this Brazilian name as best you could.

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Speaker 10: I mean, it looks pretty simple to me, right, I

1999
01:33:26,680 --> 01:33:29,040
Speaker 10: will admit the only person I've heard say her name

2000
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Speaker 10: is Bruce Buffer, So I don't know if that's a

2001
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Speaker 10: great thing you hear.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go eduarda Mara.

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Speaker 4: So that's pretty good. I do wonder what Buffer's lifetime

2004
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Speaker 4: percentage of accurate pronunciations is. All right, Yeah, so edwarda Moura,

2005
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Speaker 4: I think you're pretty good. Let's hear uh, let's hear

2006
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Speaker 4: how she says it. That's cada ed kept she holds

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Speaker 4: that a.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, No, it's good.

2009
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Speaker 5: That's more of an accent thing than it is necessarily

2010
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Speaker 5: a pronunciation thing.

2011
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Speaker 1: I give it to BP. That's a hit for Square.

2012
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Speaker 4: We also have the file of your favorite Fighter's favorite fighter,

2013
01:34:15,080 --> 01:34:18,200
Speaker 4: Charles du bronx oli Era as we go full throttle

2014
01:34:18,200 --> 01:34:20,920
Speaker 4: Brazilian Portuguese. But I just want you guys to hear Charles,

2015
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Speaker 4: in all of his glory, saying his name Cody. If

2016
01:34:24,040 --> 01:34:25,759
Speaker 4: we have that file you can trigger at anytime.

2017
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Speaker 3: Charlas Olivia, Charles Olivia, that's you.

2018
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Speaker 4: I get nervous just hearing him say his name. Maybe

2019
01:34:37,880 --> 01:34:40,720
Speaker 4: that means I'm excited for three or nine I think

2020
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Speaker 4: it is. And then we have two other files. People

2021
01:34:45,000 --> 01:34:47,640
Speaker 4: having a hard time with these, incidentally, Cody, let's get

2022
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Speaker 4: to the next one.

2023
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Speaker 6: John Jones, John Jones.

2024
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Speaker 4: Yeah, does not sound like a complete savage. Can you

2025
01:34:56,360 --> 01:35:00,879
Speaker 4: give me that? John Jones again, John Jones, John Jones,

2026
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Speaker 4: he's in a Netflix movie now and he's just taken

2027
01:35:05,479 --> 01:35:08,519
Speaker 4: that voice right to the big screen because he's got

2028
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Speaker 4: a great theatrical voice, like John Jones could get voiceover

2029
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Speaker 4: work immediately, all right. And then our final file, and

2030
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Speaker 4: you got to listen this through the whole thing. It's

2031
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Speaker 4: actually not our final file, but it is kind of

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Speaker 4: for right now. Just listen to Jim Miller's whole file

2033
01:35:21,479 --> 01:35:23,680
Speaker 4: right now, because Jim Miller, I mean, part of the

2034
01:35:23,720 --> 01:35:25,639
Speaker 4: reason they record it is because there are people who

2035
01:35:25,680 --> 01:35:28,000
Speaker 4: live in countries outside of the United States of America

2036
01:35:28,200 --> 01:35:31,120
Speaker 4: that need to know if it's heem kneeler or whatever

2037
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Speaker 4: it is. So listen to Jim.

2038
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Speaker 1: Jim Miller, Jim Koby keep cut him off.

2039
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Speaker 6: Dan Miller, Dan Miller.

2040
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Speaker 4: You see Dan Miller.

2041
01:35:45,600 --> 01:35:49,280
Speaker 1: I always thought he was a Jimithy. That's interesting, thank you.

2042
01:35:49,479 --> 01:35:52,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, they keep getting cut off. All right,

2043
01:35:52,160 --> 01:35:54,559
Speaker 4: we have eight fights to break down. They're thirteen fights

2044
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Speaker 4: right now, do UFC three h nine three prelims, five

2045
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Speaker 4: main card selections. First prelim ella is Brian. We will

2046
01:36:00,880 --> 01:36:02,920
Speaker 4: start with you on this one light way Damon Jackson

2047
01:36:02,960 --> 01:36:08,440
Speaker 4: minus one thirty five the aforementioned Jim Miller's plus one fourteen.

2048
01:36:09,560 --> 01:36:13,160
Speaker 4: So Jackson's last fight came two days after his thirty

2049
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Speaker 4: sixth birthday, was the unanimous decision loss to Chepe Mataskal.

2050
01:36:16,360 --> 01:36:18,080
Speaker 4: We had him on the show. Of course, Ken Flow

2051
01:36:18,280 --> 01:36:21,479
Speaker 4: talked about all the circumstances surrounding that fight. It feels

2052
01:36:21,520 --> 01:36:24,840
Speaker 4: like the UFC is rewarding him here by giving him

2053
01:36:24,880 --> 01:36:27,240
Speaker 4: one of the bigger names of his career, at least

2054
01:36:27,280 --> 01:36:29,759
Speaker 4: on paper, and the iron Man Jim Miller BP close

2055
01:36:29,840 --> 01:36:31,880
Speaker 4: at least on the betting front. How to see it

2056
01:36:31,920 --> 01:36:32,400
Speaker 4: play out?

2057
01:36:33,040 --> 01:36:34,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's gonna be a dog fight, boys. This is

2058
01:36:35,240 --> 01:36:36,080
Speaker 1: these boys.

2059
01:36:35,840 --> 01:36:38,920
Speaker 10: Are gonna go after it. It seems like Damon Jackson

2060
01:36:38,920 --> 01:36:40,800
Speaker 10: when he got his hair fix in Turkey. They might

2061
01:36:40,800 --> 01:36:43,080
Speaker 10: have put a little something in his chin too, because

2062
01:36:43,400 --> 01:36:45,880
Speaker 10: this dude, you know, hasn't been knocked out a little bit,

2063
01:36:45,920 --> 01:36:49,160
Speaker 10: and he was a little durability issue. But no, this

2064
01:36:49,240 --> 01:36:52,640
Speaker 10: guy is an exciting fighter. His striking's good, is grappling

2065
01:36:52,760 --> 01:36:55,360
Speaker 10: is good. But he's gonna run into a guy Jim Miller,

2066
01:36:55,360 --> 01:36:58,840
Speaker 10: who I think is better grappling everywhere. Damon Jacksons a

2067
01:36:58,840 --> 01:37:01,519
Speaker 10: little bit longer, maybe has some better scrambles, but Jim

2068
01:37:01,560 --> 01:37:04,040
Speaker 10: Miller has seen it all. He's coming off with kind

2069
01:37:04,040 --> 01:37:06,760
Speaker 10: of a one sided beating. And listen, it wasn't maybe

2070
01:37:06,760 --> 01:37:08,320
Speaker 10: one side, but if you look at the stats, it

2071
01:37:08,360 --> 01:37:10,840
Speaker 10: looks one sided against King Green, which was a very

2072
01:37:10,840 --> 01:37:13,479
Speaker 10: fun fight, bloody as all get out. But Jim Miller

2073
01:37:13,520 --> 01:37:16,160
Speaker 10: is a warrior. He's a dog in there. You're not

2074
01:37:16,240 --> 01:37:19,840
Speaker 10: gonna get too many Jim Miller fights left. And I'll

2075
01:37:19,880 --> 01:37:22,760
Speaker 10: be damned if I pick against Jim Miller in this

2076
01:37:22,920 --> 01:37:25,040
Speaker 10: close to a spot here at the dog money, I'm

2077
01:37:25,120 --> 01:37:26,160
Speaker 10: dancing with Jimmy Miller.

2078
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Speaker 1: Gimme Jim.

2079
01:37:28,760 --> 01:37:31,519
Speaker 4: Jim Miller plus one fourteen right now on Draft Kings Sportsbook.

2080
01:37:31,520 --> 01:37:35,599
Speaker 4: Can Flow turned forty one in August, extending his record

2081
01:37:35,640 --> 01:37:38,479
Speaker 4: here UFC appears number forty five. He will also look

2082
01:37:38,520 --> 01:37:40,679
Speaker 4: to extend his record for UFC wins. He's got twenty

2083
01:37:40,680 --> 01:37:42,360
Speaker 4: six of those can flow. What do you think about

2084
01:37:42,439 --> 01:37:44,080
Speaker 4: Jimmy Miller here plus money this weekend?

2085
01:37:44,760 --> 01:37:46,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is gonna be an interesting one.

2086
01:37:46,280 --> 01:37:49,280
Speaker 5: I think both are just about even when it comes

2087
01:37:49,280 --> 01:37:52,960
Speaker 5: to the striking game. I think the person who wins

2088
01:37:53,000 --> 01:37:56,960
Speaker 5: this fight is probably going to be the better takedown guy,

2089
01:37:57,040 --> 01:38:01,320
Speaker 5: the better wrestler, and who that is, I'm not exactly sure.

2090
01:38:02,040 --> 01:38:04,360
Speaker 5: I think clinch fighting is going to be crucial as well.

2091
01:38:05,280 --> 01:38:07,000
Speaker 5: You know, when you get to fight this close, I

2092
01:38:07,000 --> 01:38:08,680
Speaker 5: think a good way to go is always kind of

2093
01:38:08,680 --> 01:38:11,120
Speaker 5: going with the underdog. So I totally understand that Jim

2094
01:38:11,120 --> 01:38:13,559
Speaker 5: Miller picked by Brian Petrie. I'll lean the way of

2095
01:38:13,640 --> 01:38:17,200
Speaker 5: Damon Jackson just because of the age and both kind of,

2096
01:38:17,240 --> 01:38:19,400
Speaker 5: you know, suffer a little bit from consistency issues, But

2097
01:38:19,800 --> 01:38:22,080
Speaker 5: I'm gonna lean the way of Damon Jackson, all right.

2098
01:38:22,080 --> 01:38:24,799
Speaker 4: Next prelim for us to break down is at middleweight

2099
01:38:24,920 --> 01:38:27,599
Speaker 4: Eric Anders minus one forty two Chris Widman plus one

2100
01:38:27,680 --> 01:38:31,120
Speaker 4: twenty so last finish for Chris Widman. This is something

2101
01:38:31,120 --> 01:38:32,760
Speaker 4: that I look at not that either one of these

2102
01:38:32,760 --> 01:38:36,599
Speaker 4: guys has necessarily been prolific finishers of late but last

2103
01:38:36,640 --> 01:38:41,520
Speaker 4: finish for Widman, Uniondale, New York, twenty seventeen against Kelvin Gasolom.

2104
01:38:41,520 --> 01:38:45,280
Speaker 4: He is zero and two at MSG. Eric Anders thirty

2105
01:38:45,320 --> 01:38:47,240
Speaker 4: seven years of age, Brian. We don't know how much

2106
01:38:47,280 --> 01:38:49,640
Speaker 4: he's going to compete beyond Saturday night either, but he

2107
01:38:49,680 --> 01:38:52,439
Speaker 4: did look pretty good against Jamie Pickett back in March.

2108
01:38:52,800 --> 01:38:54,920
Speaker 4: Another close one on paper here at eighty five BP.

2109
01:38:55,040 --> 01:38:55,559
Speaker 4: Who do you like?

2110
01:38:55,960 --> 01:38:56,360
Speaker 8: Man?

2111
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Speaker 10: I hate picking Chris Rodman fights at this point. I

2112
01:39:00,240 --> 01:39:03,559
Speaker 10: love Chris Wyman. Obviously we're friends with Ray Longa. I

2113
01:39:03,600 --> 01:39:06,559
Speaker 10: got Long Island and my blood, and it's stop picking

2114
01:39:06,600 --> 01:39:09,519
Speaker 10: against against Chris Wyman. I'm gonna go with your boy.

2115
01:39:09,720 --> 01:39:13,320
Speaker 10: Wyman's my boy, but I'm gonna go with your boy.

2116
01:39:13,640 --> 01:39:14,320
Speaker 1: Eric Anders.

2117
01:39:14,560 --> 01:39:16,639
Speaker 10: Wyman just needs to go back to his old school

2118
01:39:16,680 --> 01:39:19,000
Speaker 10: wrestling grappling roots if he wants to win this fight.

2119
01:39:19,320 --> 01:39:21,599
Speaker 10: I just don't see it happening. Eric Anders seventy eight percent.

2120
01:39:21,640 --> 01:39:23,760
Speaker 10: Take down the fence has looked really good. If someone

2121
01:39:23,840 --> 01:39:25,920
Speaker 10: takes him down and he gets up really well. They're

2122
01:39:25,960 --> 01:39:28,120
Speaker 10: both not the fastest guys at one eighty five They're

2123
01:39:28,120 --> 01:39:30,479
Speaker 10: not gonna light the scoreboard, but Anders does, though a

2124
01:39:30,479 --> 01:39:33,559
Speaker 10: little more volume, has a really good left hand. Chris's

2125
01:39:33,600 --> 01:39:36,840
Speaker 10: defense is left to be a little desired there. I

2126
01:39:36,840 --> 01:39:39,400
Speaker 10: thought he looked very good against Bruno Silvia. You battle back,

2127
01:39:39,439 --> 01:39:41,040
Speaker 10: he rallied that dog fight. I know there was a

2128
01:39:41,080 --> 01:39:43,200
Speaker 10: lot of weird fouls or what you want to call it,

2129
01:39:43,240 --> 01:39:45,760
Speaker 10: but I think he looked much better than the Brad

2130
01:39:45,800 --> 01:39:49,200
Speaker 10: Tavares fight. I just think Eric Anders he's gonna he's

2131
01:39:49,200 --> 01:39:51,000
Speaker 10: gonna have a little bit of an extra gear here

2132
01:39:51,120 --> 01:39:53,280
Speaker 10: and uh, and he's gonna put it on Chris. Hopefully

2133
01:39:53,320 --> 01:39:55,439
Speaker 10: it's a decision win for Anders, becuse I want to

2134
01:39:55,439 --> 01:39:57,559
Speaker 10: see Chris get put out. But yeah, I can't. I

2135
01:39:57,560 --> 01:39:59,080
Speaker 10: can't find my way on the Wiman's side.

2136
01:39:59,080 --> 01:40:04,400
Speaker 4: Give me eric Ana nicely diplomatically delivered Brian Patriot can

2137
01:40:04,439 --> 01:40:07,680
Speaker 4: flow Chris Wman, Eric Anders Wiman plus one twenty or

2138
01:40:07,680 --> 01:40:10,720
Speaker 4: so right now on Draftking Sportsbook. Your thoughts, Yeah, interesting.

2139
01:40:10,360 --> 01:40:13,080
Speaker 1: You know, maybe my memory is off.

2140
01:40:13,120 --> 01:40:16,719
Speaker 5: I thought that Chris did quite well against Bruno Silva,

2141
01:40:16,800 --> 01:40:19,800
Speaker 5: and you know it is Eric Ander is a better

2142
01:40:19,840 --> 01:40:23,519
Speaker 5: fighter than Bruno Silva. I'm not sure, you know, I

2143
01:40:23,560 --> 01:40:27,680
Speaker 5: think that both are dangerous and good at different things.

2144
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Speaker 5: You know, I think Chris looked way way better. I

2145
01:40:31,680 --> 01:40:35,320
Speaker 5: think we'll see an even better version on Saturday Night

2146
01:40:35,360 --> 01:40:38,240
Speaker 5: against Eric Anders. And while Eric can get things done,

2147
01:40:38,840 --> 01:40:41,559
Speaker 5: I think if he does get it done, probably by decision.

2148
01:40:41,600 --> 01:40:43,040
Speaker 1: But I like Chris Widman here.

2149
01:40:43,080 --> 01:40:45,400
Speaker 5: I think there's value here with him being the underdog,

2150
01:40:45,479 --> 01:40:47,800
Speaker 5: and I think he's ready.

2151
01:40:47,520 --> 01:40:50,639
Speaker 4: To rock all right. That brings us to the feature

2152
01:40:50,840 --> 01:40:53,040
Speaker 4: prelim in the pandamweight division. This is the fight a

2153
01:40:53,040 --> 01:40:55,240
Speaker 4: lot of people are talking about BP, Marcus McGee three

2154
01:40:55,280 --> 01:40:57,439
Speaker 4: and OO in the UFC thus far, and here the

2155
01:40:57,479 --> 01:41:00,760
Speaker 4: minus one thirty five betting favorite against Jonathan my Ntinez,

2156
01:41:01,360 --> 01:41:04,760
Speaker 4: who comes back plus one fourteen. We'll see if Jay

2157
01:41:04,880 --> 01:41:08,360
Speaker 4: Matt can respond in kind to what I felt was

2158
01:41:08,360 --> 01:41:10,560
Speaker 4: a disappointing loss to Jose Automo. You HAVEC three to

2159
01:41:10,600 --> 01:41:12,680
Speaker 4: Zho one and Rio back in May. What do we

2160
01:41:12,720 --> 01:41:14,519
Speaker 4: think Brian McGhee or Martinez for you?

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01:41:15,200 --> 01:41:16,680
Speaker 1: All I know is Kenny's.

2162
01:41:16,360 --> 01:41:18,120
Speaker 10: Usually a little more ruthless when it comes to the

2163
01:41:18,200 --> 01:41:21,639
Speaker 10: longo guys he picks against him, he takes the Chris side.

2164
01:41:22,000 --> 01:41:24,680
Speaker 1: He goes with this Carolina boy makes me look like

2165
01:41:24,720 --> 01:41:25,519
Speaker 1: an asshole. I love it.

2166
01:41:26,320 --> 01:41:29,040
Speaker 10: Listen, this is a great fight. Marcus McGee surprised me

2167
01:41:29,080 --> 01:41:31,400
Speaker 10: when he came to USC against Jeremy Newsom. I did

2168
01:41:31,479 --> 01:41:33,840
Speaker 10: not think he was had the level that he had.

2169
01:41:33,880 --> 01:41:36,040
Speaker 10: I heard good things about him in the room over

2170
01:41:36,080 --> 01:41:37,880
Speaker 10: there in Arizona, but I didn't think he was this guy.

2171
01:41:37,920 --> 01:41:40,679
Speaker 10: He's that guy, dude. He's bricked up. He has big,

2172
01:41:40,720 --> 01:41:42,800
Speaker 10: big power, and he can he can win anywhere. And

2173
01:41:42,840 --> 01:41:46,719
Speaker 10: Jonathan Martinez is very technical, right, little disappointing against Josado,

2174
01:41:46,800 --> 01:41:47,760
Speaker 10: but Joseado's a stid.

2175
01:41:47,840 --> 01:41:49,160
Speaker 1: I mean, what are we gonna do with Josado?

2176
01:41:49,240 --> 01:41:51,720
Speaker 10: But Martinez has really good low kicks, a knee up

2177
01:41:51,720 --> 01:41:54,599
Speaker 10: the middle eight times. The beautifully hands are still coming along.

2178
01:41:54,640 --> 01:41:57,000
Speaker 10: But his takedown of fences really well, really good too.

2179
01:41:57,240 --> 01:41:59,320
Speaker 10: So this is a really tough This is where you're

2180
01:41:59,360 --> 01:42:02,360
Speaker 10: sitting on the fence where it's technique on martinez sidevers

2181
01:42:02,479 --> 01:42:04,759
Speaker 10: power on mcgisa and not saying Marguee does have power,

2182
01:42:04,800 --> 01:42:06,280
Speaker 10: but he's the powerful guy.

2183
01:42:06,560 --> 01:42:07,639
Speaker 1: And for some.

2184
01:42:07,479 --> 01:42:11,519
Speaker 10: Reason, my dumb Midwestern gut is going, there's Noice baiting here,

2185
01:42:11,560 --> 01:42:14,320
Speaker 10: it's McGee. So for whatever reason, I'm all over McGee.

2186
01:42:14,320 --> 01:42:16,519
Speaker 10: I MNUS won thirty five I like the low number here.

2187
01:42:16,760 --> 01:42:19,000
Speaker 10: I think he might just outwork and outpaced and lance

2188
01:42:19,040 --> 01:42:21,160
Speaker 10: on big shots and Jonathan Martinez, who has been put

2189
01:42:21,160 --> 01:42:22,920
Speaker 10: out before. So I think it's gonna be a good

2190
01:42:23,000 --> 01:42:24,280
Speaker 10: night for Marcus McGee.

2191
01:42:25,080 --> 01:42:28,200
Speaker 4: Ken Flow McGee repping the MMA lab of course, incredible

2192
01:42:28,320 --> 01:42:32,960
Speaker 4: bantam weight room, Kyler Phillips, Mario Bautista, Sean O'Malley, Raoul

2193
01:42:33,080 --> 01:42:36,720
Speaker 4: Rosas Junior spar there as well. Maybe it is McKees

2194
01:42:36,880 --> 01:42:39,360
Speaker 4: McGee's time to shine. He is thirty four years of age.

2195
01:42:39,400 --> 01:42:41,120
Speaker 4: Kenny nine and one is a pro going for a

2196
01:42:41,160 --> 01:42:43,960
Speaker 4: six straight win here. Martinez had that six fy win

2197
01:42:44,040 --> 01:42:46,040
Speaker 4: streak not all that long ago. Big things that thirty

2198
01:42:46,040 --> 01:42:47,760
Speaker 4: five can flow your Mike is hot.

2199
01:42:48,000 --> 01:42:50,400
Speaker 5: Well, Martinez is not an easy out for anybody in

2200
01:42:50,439 --> 01:42:53,000
Speaker 5: that division. I think he has a great leg kicking

2201
01:42:53,080 --> 01:42:59,240
Speaker 5: game and was really out experienced and out boxed by

2202
01:42:59,280 --> 01:43:02,640
Speaker 5: the veteran Joe's Ado in his last fight. And I

2203
01:43:02,680 --> 01:43:06,920
Speaker 5: think Marcus McGee is much more than just power. I mean,

2204
01:43:07,000 --> 01:43:09,679
Speaker 5: he certainly is fast, he's got a lot of weapons.

2205
01:43:09,720 --> 01:43:10,839
Speaker 1: He's got a lot of tools.

2206
01:43:10,880 --> 01:43:13,960
Speaker 5: We saw him against Bologno's the dream Killer hit that

2207
01:43:14,000 --> 01:43:16,599
Speaker 5: beautiful wheel kick, so he's got a lot.

2208
01:43:16,479 --> 01:43:18,240
Speaker 1: Of different spinning attacks and things.

2209
01:43:18,640 --> 01:43:22,639
Speaker 5: But more than anything else, you know, hearing him talk,

2210
01:43:22,760 --> 01:43:26,040
Speaker 5: this is a very intelligent individual who is committed to

2211
01:43:26,240 --> 01:43:29,439
Speaker 5: the game. He's a student of the game, and I

2212
01:43:29,560 --> 01:43:32,200
Speaker 5: like his momentum heading into this. This is by far

2213
01:43:32,320 --> 01:43:36,400
Speaker 5: the most difficult fight of his career. But I like

2214
01:43:36,520 --> 01:43:39,680
Speaker 5: McGee here in I think McGee could face you know,

2215
01:43:39,680 --> 01:43:41,680
Speaker 5: could fight for the belt one day. I do think

2216
01:43:41,760 --> 01:43:45,839
Speaker 5: he's that good and well schooled, and yeah, I like McGee.

2217
01:43:46,760 --> 01:43:48,640
Speaker 4: Great way to lead into the pay per view, is

2218
01:43:48,640 --> 01:43:52,479
Speaker 4: it not? What a great featured prelim that forecast to

2219
01:43:52,520 --> 01:43:55,680
Speaker 4: be my main card opener. At lightweight, Mauricio Rufi is

2220
01:43:55,760 --> 01:43:59,840
Speaker 4: minus seven fifty taking on hamis Yantop who is plus

2221
01:43:59,840 --> 01:44:04,080
Speaker 4: five five. So, Brian, this looks like James lawn Top.

2222
01:44:04,280 --> 01:44:07,719
Speaker 4: Sure on paper, let's hear uh, let's hear this file

2223
01:44:07,800 --> 01:44:10,040
Speaker 4: if we could, so people don't think I'm crazy.

2224
01:44:10,120 --> 01:44:19,879
Speaker 3: You hamis young top, hamis jup Thomas.

2225
01:44:19,920 --> 01:44:23,040
Speaker 4: You on Top is plus five twenty five and this

2226
01:44:23,240 --> 01:44:26,040
Speaker 4: is a career opportunity for him, Brian, twenty five year

2227
01:44:26,040 --> 01:44:30,679
Speaker 4: old Peruvian? You like that can flow Peruvian. He's going

2228
01:44:30,680 --> 01:44:32,840
Speaker 4: to the UFC and he is getting it cracked at

2229
01:44:32,880 --> 01:44:36,519
Speaker 4: one of this division's top prospects. Bloated betting line VP,

2230
01:44:36,600 --> 01:44:37,639
Speaker 4: how do you see a plane out?

2231
01:44:38,560 --> 01:44:40,439
Speaker 1: Oh man? I listen.

2232
01:44:40,680 --> 01:44:42,559
Speaker 10: Lontap was a guy who I looked at a little

2233
01:44:42,560 --> 01:44:44,479
Speaker 10: bit when he came out of the Contenan series. There

2234
01:44:44,479 --> 01:44:46,599
Speaker 10: were some good things coming out of Peru. Peru's got

2235
01:44:46,640 --> 01:44:48,360
Speaker 10: some really good fighters coming out right now, and he

2236
01:44:48,439 --> 01:44:51,720
Speaker 10: was one of them. Good striker, twenty five years old, young, right,

2237
01:44:52,240 --> 01:44:55,040
Speaker 10: tough as all get out, but he's been a little

2238
01:44:55,080 --> 01:44:57,040
Speaker 10: flat and you know, see, we'll just find your young guy.

2239
01:44:57,120 --> 01:45:00,439
Speaker 1: You know that you're finding your footing. But roofie, that's

2240
01:45:00,439 --> 01:45:00,840
Speaker 1: how he says.

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01:45:00,920 --> 01:45:04,080
Speaker 4: I say, rufie, right, yeah, like the drug that you

2242
01:45:04,200 --> 01:45:05,200
Speaker 4: put in yeah.

2243
01:45:05,360 --> 01:45:08,760
Speaker 1: Right. For some reason with the Brazilian and the RS,

2244
01:45:08,800 --> 01:45:10,560
Speaker 1: I thought it was huffy or something. I didn't know.

2245
01:45:10,600 --> 01:45:15,639
Speaker 10: I'm glad I said rufie. This motherfucker is becoming quickly

2246
01:45:15,720 --> 01:45:18,080
Speaker 10: becoming one of my favorite fighters on the Contender series

2247
01:45:18,120 --> 01:45:18,920
Speaker 10: and his debut.

2248
01:45:19,360 --> 01:45:21,320
Speaker 1: This dude is smooth on the feed.

2249
01:45:21,400 --> 01:45:24,599
Speaker 10: He's come from the fighting nerds where those motherfuckers don't lose.

2250
01:45:25,560 --> 01:45:28,839
Speaker 10: Big guy for this division kind of reminds me Striking

2251
01:45:28,960 --> 01:45:32,600
Speaker 10: Prime Connor McGregor ESK when Connor was on top. He

2252
01:45:32,720 --> 01:45:35,400
Speaker 10: has that kind of flow state with him which is

2253
01:45:35,520 --> 01:45:38,640
Speaker 10: just beautiful to watch. I'm all over Rufie here. I

2254
01:45:38,680 --> 01:45:41,200
Speaker 10: think long on top much respect, he can come in

2255
01:45:41,520 --> 01:45:42,840
Speaker 10: and steal all this dude type.

2256
01:45:42,960 --> 01:45:43,200
Speaker 4: Say.

2257
01:45:43,240 --> 01:45:45,000
Speaker 10: I know I'm going two in the UFC and twenty

2258
01:45:45,000 --> 01:45:47,080
Speaker 10: five years old. I'm stepping up a short notice. I'm

2259
01:45:47,080 --> 01:45:48,559
Speaker 10: gonna go take all this dude type, right.

2260
01:45:48,760 --> 01:45:49,240
Speaker 1: I love that.

2261
01:45:49,320 --> 01:45:51,760
Speaker 10: I love that mentality. I just don't think it's gonna happen.

2262
01:45:51,800 --> 01:45:53,920
Speaker 10: I think Rufie is as good a fight for the

2263
01:45:53,920 --> 01:45:54,519
Speaker 10: title one day.

2264
01:45:54,520 --> 01:45:55,639
Speaker 1: I think this dude is legit.

2265
01:45:55,920 --> 01:45:58,000
Speaker 10: I have friends texting me after last time he fought, like,

2266
01:45:58,040 --> 01:46:00,360
Speaker 10: who the fuck is this guy? So I'm glad they

2267
01:46:00,360 --> 01:46:02,960
Speaker 10: got an opponent, and I think he's gonna do work

2268
01:46:03,000 --> 01:46:04,160
Speaker 10: in look great saturd Night.

2269
01:46:04,560 --> 01:46:06,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, cam Flo BP not the only one to compare

2270
01:46:06,720 --> 01:46:10,439
Speaker 4: this striker to Condra McGregor his UFC debut against Jamie Malachey,

2271
01:46:10,439 --> 01:46:13,719
Speaker 4: of course spectacular, also shine down the Contender series last year,

2272
01:46:14,160 --> 01:46:16,240
Speaker 4: and now fighting out a number card yet again, but

2273
01:46:16,280 --> 01:46:18,160
Speaker 4: this time not on the early prelums, but live on

2274
01:46:18,240 --> 01:46:21,080
Speaker 4: pay per view. Your thoughts on this one between Rufie

2275
01:46:21,280 --> 01:46:24,679
Speaker 4: minus seven fifty and Yon Top plus five twenty five.

2276
01:46:25,040 --> 01:46:28,639
Speaker 5: If you guys think for one second, then I'm gonna

2277
01:46:28,680 --> 01:46:34,040
Speaker 5: go against the Peruvian here, young cop with that warrior mentality,

2278
01:46:34,080 --> 01:46:35,759
Speaker 5: with that Peruvian.

2279
01:46:35,160 --> 01:46:38,120
Speaker 1: Blood, get him, Kenny, You're probably right, Tom.

2280
01:46:38,800 --> 01:46:42,240
Speaker 5: I like Rufie man. This dude's serving up Rufie colatas, Okay.

2281
01:46:42,280 --> 01:46:46,680
Speaker 5: He's putting people out left and right. His striking is phenomenal.

2282
01:46:46,880 --> 01:46:49,120
Speaker 5: And it's not only his striking that looks similar to

2283
01:46:49,160 --> 01:46:55,160
Speaker 5: Con McGregor. He carries that scene confident deme inener where

2284
01:46:55,560 --> 01:46:58,640
Speaker 5: it almost seems like everything's happening in slow motion in

2285
01:46:58,680 --> 01:47:03,120
Speaker 5: front of him, and he's moving at a completely different speed.

2286
01:47:03,280 --> 01:47:05,639
Speaker 1: So there's certainly something special about him.

2287
01:47:05,640 --> 01:47:07,760
Speaker 5: He's with the right team, and as much as it

2288
01:47:07,800 --> 01:47:12,120
Speaker 5: pains me to go against the proving Top, I think

2289
01:47:12,200 --> 01:47:14,960
Speaker 5: Rufi's gonna be something special in the future. Would not

2290
01:47:15,040 --> 01:47:18,080
Speaker 5: be surprised to see him fighting for the Belta in

2291
01:47:18,120 --> 01:47:20,920
Speaker 5: a couple of years anyway. So this dude's I mean

2292
01:47:20,960 --> 01:47:23,600
Speaker 5: what he was calling out like, he was already criticizing

2293
01:47:23,600 --> 01:47:25,799
Speaker 5: and calling out Islam Mahashchev already.

2294
01:47:26,120 --> 01:47:26,880
Speaker 8: I mean, I love it.

2295
01:47:26,920 --> 01:47:29,680
Speaker 1: He's set in the stage, because I.

2296
01:47:29,640 --> 01:47:33,000
Speaker 5: Think him and his team understand that he's a little

2297
01:47:33,000 --> 01:47:35,599
Speaker 5: bit different, and I'm not sure any man has sounded

2298
01:47:35,640 --> 01:47:38,280
Speaker 5: sexier saying Yon top than you did about thirty seven.

2299
01:47:39,360 --> 01:47:42,160
Speaker 4: All right? Next up, Women's flyweight division number eleven, Karini

2300
01:47:42,160 --> 01:47:46,400
Speaker 4: Silva Modust two eighty five, taking on ninth rank Viviani

2301
01:47:46,400 --> 01:47:50,080
Speaker 4: outa Ujo, who is plus two thirty so little behind

2302
01:47:50,080 --> 01:47:52,679
Speaker 4: the scenes intel here when rosami Unis needed an opponent

2303
01:47:52,720 --> 01:47:55,479
Speaker 4: for that five round fight in Denver in July, Karini

2304
01:47:55,600 --> 01:47:58,719
Speaker 4: Silva was a top choice of McK maynard at the time.

2305
01:47:58,800 --> 01:48:02,080
Speaker 4: Ultimately they went with Tracey Cortes. But Silva's right there

2306
01:48:02,120 --> 01:48:03,840
Speaker 4: four to oh in the USC. She's looking to take

2307
01:48:03,880 --> 01:48:07,360
Speaker 4: out at Ujo's spot in the top ten, and Silva's

2308
01:48:07,400 --> 01:48:09,760
Speaker 4: the big favorite here this weekend on pay per VIEWPP.

2309
01:48:09,600 --> 01:48:12,639
Speaker 1: Your thoughts, Yeah, this is a good step up for Silva.

2310
01:48:12,680 --> 01:48:15,439
Speaker 10: Silva has four or five fights in UFC, four of

2311
01:48:15,479 --> 01:48:17,800
Speaker 10: the finishes she's coming off a decision winning the last

2312
01:48:17,800 --> 01:48:20,439
Speaker 10: time out. She's looked really fucking good. She gets to

2313
01:48:20,479 --> 01:48:22,720
Speaker 10: fight to the ground, she dominates on the feat She's

2314
01:48:22,800 --> 01:48:25,360
Speaker 10: really good at her own pace, her own distance, and

2315
01:48:25,520 --> 01:48:27,559
Speaker 10: being a young fighter, I really like that. I really

2316
01:48:27,560 --> 01:48:31,320
Speaker 10: respect that. And she's fighting a good competition here. Vivian Ajou.

2317
01:48:31,680 --> 01:48:33,360
Speaker 10: You know, Kenny's not the only one who can say

2318
01:48:33,439 --> 01:48:39,519
Speaker 10: names around here, guys. Vivian Azoul she she She's followed everybody.

2319
01:48:39,560 --> 01:48:41,400
Speaker 10: She's been in there with, everybody has looked good. Has

2320
01:48:41,439 --> 01:48:44,360
Speaker 10: never been finished in the UFC. I would love to

2321
01:48:44,400 --> 01:48:47,800
Speaker 10: see Creamy Silva get a finish here, really, Stamper, you know,

2322
01:48:47,960 --> 01:48:51,280
Speaker 10: Kenny's not the only one with tricks. Boys, give me Silva.

2323
01:48:51,479 --> 01:48:54,479
Speaker 10: I'm very confident in this as well. I wish the

2324
01:48:54,560 --> 01:48:56,920
Speaker 10: number is a little lower. I understand why it's not,

2325
01:48:56,960 --> 01:48:58,960
Speaker 10: because Silva's the real deal, but I wish we could

2326
01:48:58,960 --> 01:49:00,559
Speaker 10: get a cheaper prices. That's just me be in a

2327
01:49:00,560 --> 01:49:03,040
Speaker 10: gambling mind. But I like Silva love And.

2328
01:49:03,040 --> 01:49:05,599
Speaker 4: Can we get you to say Kudi Chiba versus Brazilia,

2329
01:49:05,680 --> 01:49:06,479
Speaker 4: because that's what we have.

2330
01:49:06,479 --> 01:49:09,040
Speaker 1: Here, Kudi Chiba versus Brazilia.

2331
01:49:09,160 --> 01:49:13,040
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, yea, look at you man, just lightening

2332
01:49:13,160 --> 01:49:16,760
Speaker 4: up this entire room. Ken Flow, Kuti Chiba on one,

2333
01:49:16,840 --> 01:49:20,200
Speaker 4: Sidelia on the other, out of Uzo, fighting out of

2334
01:49:20,200 --> 01:49:22,479
Speaker 4: the nation's capital. She is six and five in the UFC.

2335
01:49:22,880 --> 01:49:26,840
Speaker 4: She has fought five former title challengers. She also went

2336
01:49:26,920 --> 01:49:30,800
Speaker 4: five rounds with Alexa Grosso in twenty twenty two experience

2337
01:49:30,880 --> 01:49:32,559
Speaker 4: to be sure, but she has lost three of four.

2338
01:49:32,680 --> 01:49:35,160
Speaker 4: Your thoughts on Karini Silva here taking on Viviani out

2339
01:49:35,160 --> 01:49:35,880
Speaker 4: of Uzo.

2340
01:49:36,080 --> 01:49:39,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, listen, I think at Uzo is a very good fighter.

2341
01:49:39,400 --> 01:49:41,559
Speaker 5: I think she's really tough. She's gonna get in the

2342
01:49:41,600 --> 01:49:44,960
Speaker 5: face of h Karini Silva. I just think Karna Silva

2343
01:49:45,040 --> 01:49:49,280
Speaker 5: is dope. She does dope things. I think she's extremely technical,

2344
01:49:50,120 --> 01:49:54,360
Speaker 5: she's extremely composed, and she too, is one of those

2345
01:49:54,400 --> 01:49:57,160
Speaker 5: Brazilians that I see competing for the belt at some point.

2346
01:49:57,280 --> 01:49:59,519
Speaker 5: She's big for the division. Man, she's gonna be a

2347
01:49:59,680 --> 01:50:03,160
Speaker 5: pro and as good as Anoujo is. I just think

2348
01:50:03,240 --> 01:50:05,800
Speaker 5: Silva was a little bit better, or maybe a lot

2349
01:50:05,800 --> 01:50:09,080
Speaker 5: of bit better in pretty much every single area. So

2350
01:50:09,400 --> 01:50:11,160
Speaker 5: I think it's gonna be fun while at last, though,

2351
01:50:11,240 --> 01:50:13,799
Speaker 5: but gimme Kadini Silva.

2352
01:50:14,280 --> 01:50:16,240
Speaker 4: All right, Right back to ken Flow here to lead

2353
01:50:16,320 --> 01:50:17,920
Speaker 4: us off on what is a featured bout in the

2354
01:50:17,920 --> 01:50:21,320
Speaker 4: middleweight division, and this time bo Nickel, not charged with

2355
01:50:21,400 --> 01:50:23,519
Speaker 4: opening the pay per view, moves down the card, still

2356
01:50:23,560 --> 01:50:26,599
Speaker 4: finds himself as a massive betting favorite of course, Nickel

2357
01:50:26,720 --> 01:50:31,080
Speaker 4: minus one thousand. Paul bar Jew Craig is plus six fifty.

2358
01:50:31,200 --> 01:50:33,840
Speaker 4: So first three UFC fights for Bo Nicol. As you

2359
01:50:33,840 --> 01:50:36,439
Speaker 4: guys know, he was in the pay per view opener

2360
01:50:36,800 --> 01:50:40,320
Speaker 4: Massive Pressure. Spot only needed the stool one time a

2361
01:50:40,320 --> 01:50:43,440
Speaker 4: couple of round one wins than round two against Cody Brundage.

2362
01:50:43,720 --> 01:50:45,960
Speaker 4: Did need the stool for either of his Contender Series

2363
01:50:46,000 --> 01:50:50,040
Speaker 4: fights either. Pretty Unstoppable Kenny, even if he was a

2364
01:50:50,040 --> 01:50:53,240
Speaker 4: little bit dissatisfied with his last win. What are your

2365
01:50:53,240 --> 01:50:56,360
Speaker 4: thoughts on him here? Minus one thousand against eighteen times

2366
01:50:56,439 --> 01:50:57,679
Speaker 4: UFC veteran Paul Craig.

2367
01:50:58,200 --> 01:51:00,400
Speaker 5: You know, when you've competed at such a high level

2368
01:51:00,439 --> 01:51:03,640
Speaker 5: like Bo Nickel has in the sport of wrestling, you know,

2369
01:51:03,840 --> 01:51:06,439
Speaker 5: competing at the international level of course, right, I mean,

2370
01:51:07,120 --> 01:51:09,400
Speaker 5: you're going to see all the different levels of the game,

2371
01:51:09,479 --> 01:51:11,840
Speaker 5: and you're gonna make a lot of mistakes along the way,

2372
01:51:11,880 --> 01:51:16,360
Speaker 5: and you're going to understand that there is constant improvement involved.

2373
01:51:16,360 --> 01:51:18,880
Speaker 5: When you're doing anything at a high level, you gotta

2374
01:51:18,920 --> 01:51:21,360
Speaker 5: be there or you get left behind, especially when you're

2375
01:51:21,360 --> 01:51:23,040
Speaker 5: talking about one on one competition.

2376
01:51:23,439 --> 01:51:24,280
Speaker 1: And I don't think.

2377
01:51:24,240 --> 01:51:28,439
Speaker 5: Bo Nickel is you know upset about his last performance

2378
01:51:28,479 --> 01:51:30,240
Speaker 5: because he's trying to act like he's a big deal

2379
01:51:30,280 --> 01:51:30,679
Speaker 5: or anything.

2380
01:51:30,840 --> 01:51:33,479
Speaker 1: He means it. He was not happy because he knew

2381
01:51:33,520 --> 01:51:34,439
Speaker 1: that he could do better.

2382
01:51:34,479 --> 01:51:37,879
Speaker 5: However, getting back to that stool, I think is important

2383
01:51:37,920 --> 01:51:39,160
Speaker 5: when it comes to experience.

2384
01:51:39,240 --> 01:51:39,840
Speaker 1: He needs that.

2385
01:51:39,920 --> 01:51:41,960
Speaker 5: You do not want to be going into big fights

2386
01:51:42,200 --> 01:51:44,960
Speaker 5: only having experienced like three minutes of total time in

2387
01:51:45,040 --> 01:51:45,439
Speaker 5: the UFC.

2388
01:51:45,600 --> 01:51:47,320
Speaker 1: It's just not a good place to be, so I

2389
01:51:47,360 --> 01:51:48,120
Speaker 1: think it's a good thing.

2390
01:51:48,160 --> 01:51:52,160
Speaker 5: Ultimately, Paul greg Craig is going to be dangerous off

2391
01:51:52,160 --> 01:51:54,640
Speaker 5: of his back, and that's probably where he's going to

2392
01:51:54,680 --> 01:51:56,760
Speaker 5: be at some point, either by getting knocked down by

2393
01:51:56,760 --> 01:52:00,080
Speaker 5: bow Nickel or getting taken down by bow Nickel. You

2394
01:52:00,160 --> 01:52:02,120
Speaker 5: gotta watch out for his armbars, you gotta watch out

2395
01:52:02,160 --> 01:52:05,200
Speaker 5: for those long legs snatching up triangles and things like that.

2396
01:52:05,680 --> 01:52:08,200
Speaker 5: But bo Nickel is going to be a problem there

2397
01:52:08,240 --> 01:52:10,679
Speaker 5: as well, so long as he keeps good positioning there.

2398
01:52:11,680 --> 01:52:14,880
Speaker 5: I see bo Nickel being absolutely dominant in this fight,

2399
01:52:14,960 --> 01:52:17,560
Speaker 5: and because he doesn't have a whole lot of experience,

2400
01:52:17,760 --> 01:52:19,599
Speaker 5: him and his team have done a great job thus

2401
01:52:19,640 --> 01:52:22,080
Speaker 5: far in taking the right fights at the right time.

2402
01:52:22,479 --> 01:52:24,600
Speaker 5: Paul Craig is not an easy fight, but it's the

2403
01:52:24,680 --> 01:52:26,080
Speaker 5: right fight at the right time.

2404
01:52:26,880 --> 01:52:29,720
Speaker 4: Paul Craig wins over Maha Minachlive and Jamal Hill. He's

2405
01:52:29,880 --> 01:52:34,080
Speaker 4: nine eight and one in the UFC, and it's impossible

2406
01:52:34,160 --> 01:52:36,320
Speaker 4: for me to think that bo Nichol's gonna lose eight

2407
01:52:36,320 --> 01:52:39,560
Speaker 4: times no matter how long his UFC career goes or doesn't.

2408
01:52:40,000 --> 01:52:43,160
Speaker 4: But Paul Craig is six', four he's a former light.

2409
01:52:43,200 --> 01:52:47,639
Speaker 4: Heavyweight he's fought five former light heavyweight champions or title,

2410
01:52:47,720 --> 01:52:52,559
Speaker 4: challengers and on, Paper brick Clearly nichol's TOUGHEST mma challenge.

2411
01:52:52,600 --> 01:52:56,800
Speaker 4: Today But Boos Mma, petri what do we?

2412
01:52:56,840 --> 01:52:59,160
Speaker 1: Think, Listen i'm a huge Bow nickel. Fan i'm a.

2413
01:52:59,200 --> 01:53:01,320
Speaker 1: SUPPORTER i so happy when he signed with THE. Yc

2414
01:53:01,600 --> 01:53:02,160
Speaker 1: he did everything.

2415
01:53:02,200 --> 01:53:04,640
Speaker 10: Right he did the went, amateur then he did a

2416
01:53:04,640 --> 01:53:06,520
Speaker 10: couple pro, fights and he got the contendacaries.

2417
01:53:06,560 --> 01:53:08,240
Speaker 1: Twice this guy probably.

2418
01:53:08,000 --> 01:53:11,640
Speaker 10: Got offered money FROM Pfl Bellow tour one and he's, like,

2419
01:53:11,680 --> 01:53:13,240
Speaker 10: NO i want to. Compete we're the. Best SO i

2420
01:53:13,280 --> 01:53:15,560
Speaker 10: have so much respect for. Him my only complaint with

2421
01:53:15,640 --> 01:53:17,280
Speaker 10: him IS i just wish you would fight. More maybe

2422
01:53:17,280 --> 01:53:18,680
Speaker 10: that's a selfish thing for me BECAUSE i want to

2423
01:53:18,720 --> 01:53:20,800
Speaker 10: see him fight. More BUT i also think he kind

2424
01:53:20,840 --> 01:53:23,479
Speaker 10: of addresses in an interview recently that he's doing enough

2425
01:53:23,479 --> 01:53:25,759
Speaker 10: training to build up to do all the right, fights

2426
01:53:25,920 --> 01:53:28,160
Speaker 10: which is a great. Mentality BUT i also believe that

2427
01:53:28,800 --> 01:53:30,040
Speaker 10: you get experienced by.

2428
01:53:29,920 --> 01:53:31,240
Speaker 1: Fighting in this, world you know WHAT i.

2429
01:53:31,240 --> 01:53:33,000
Speaker 10: Mean you can train all you want in that gym

2430
01:53:33,160 --> 01:53:34,599
Speaker 10: and in your, room and you got a great room

2431
01:53:34,640 --> 01:53:36,320
Speaker 10: With American Top, team and they built your gym out

2432
01:53:36,360 --> 01:53:39,240
Speaker 10: there In, pennsylvania but you gotta fight a little, more

2433
01:53:39,479 --> 01:53:41,160
Speaker 10: in my, opinion if you really want to, mean if

2434
01:53:41,200 --> 01:53:43,040
Speaker 10: you're gonna fight a top five guy, next it's gonna

2435
01:53:43,040 --> 01:53:44,920
Speaker 10: be a completely different. World BUT i like him in

2436
01:53:44,960 --> 01:53:48,200
Speaker 10: this spot here Against Paul. Craig his stand up is really.

2437
01:53:48,200 --> 01:53:51,240
Speaker 10: Good it's, powerful it's, explosive but he gets a little

2438
01:53:51,320 --> 01:53:54,840
Speaker 10: rushed with. Himself Against Cody brundage when he wasn't at his,

2439
01:53:54,960 --> 01:53:57,519
Speaker 10: pace when he wasn't at his, distance he freaked out

2440
01:53:57,560 --> 01:53:59,600
Speaker 10: and panic, wrestled And cody stuffed a few of his

2441
01:53:59,640 --> 01:54:01,240
Speaker 10: stakes because he pinonick.

2442
01:54:01,280 --> 01:54:02,120
Speaker 1: Wrestles, yeah you.

2443
01:54:02,160 --> 01:54:05,360
Speaker 10: Know Against, woodburn he landed those great shots at his own.

2444
01:54:05,360 --> 01:54:07,800
Speaker 10: Distance he has to get used to fighting at other

2445
01:54:07,800 --> 01:54:10,960
Speaker 10: people's distance and still landing strikes And Paul, craig as

2446
01:54:11,040 --> 01:54:13,680
Speaker 10: much as been in THE ufc and as long tenured he,

2447
01:54:13,840 --> 01:54:16,280
Speaker 10: is his stand up is not. Good is striking is

2448
01:54:16,320 --> 01:54:19,680
Speaker 10: not Goods Chin his is not. Great you, know you

2449
01:54:19,720 --> 01:54:22,120
Speaker 10: know he's got a great ground, Game he's good on.

2450
01:54:22,160 --> 01:54:25,240
Speaker 1: Top my only concern is what what? AMOUT i can't play.

2451
01:54:25,000 --> 01:54:26,920
Speaker 10: Bow at one minus one, thousand So i'm trying to

2452
01:54:26,920 --> 01:54:30,519
Speaker 10: figure out if it's con be knockout or, submission And

2453
01:54:30,680 --> 01:54:32,360
Speaker 10: bo might be one of those ego guys that.

2454
01:54:32,440 --> 01:54:33,320
Speaker 1: GOES i want to take.

2455
01:54:33,200 --> 01:54:35,400
Speaker 10: This guy down and submit him, right and he's been submitted,

2456
01:54:35,400 --> 01:54:37,400
Speaker 10: before BUT i want to prove That i'm an afraid

2457
01:54:37,400 --> 01:54:37,480
Speaker 10: of the.

2458
01:54:37,560 --> 01:54:39,600
Speaker 1: Triangles i'm not afraid of the arm. Bars i'm not

2459
01:54:39,600 --> 01:54:41,800
Speaker 1: gonna Be jamal Hill or And. Caliv i'm gonna go

2460
01:54:41,840 --> 01:54:43,360
Speaker 1: down And i'm gonna top this guy because that's WHAT bo.

2461
01:54:43,520 --> 01:54:46,000
Speaker 10: Does so it's interesting to. See i'll see HOW i

2462
01:54:46,040 --> 01:54:47,960
Speaker 10: play that. Prop but it's all, over Bow. Nickel we're

2463
01:54:48,000 --> 01:54:49,280
Speaker 10: going bow here all.

2464
01:54:49,360 --> 01:54:52,440
Speaker 4: Right co main event right back TO Uvp Lightweight division number.

2465
01:54:52,440 --> 01:54:55,960
Speaker 4: Two CHARLES oliverremnus two fifty eight seventh. Rank Michael chandler

2466
01:54:56,040 --> 01:54:59,040
Speaker 4: is plus two. Ten schedule for five rounds if he

2467
01:54:59,160 --> 01:55:02,440
Speaker 4: Beat chandler k about as close to winning the undisputed

2468
01:55:02,440 --> 01:55:04,840
Speaker 4: title as any fighter ever has without winning. It he

2469
01:55:04,840 --> 01:55:07,480
Speaker 4: almost knocked Out. Olivera that was the first meeting back

2470
01:55:07,520 --> 01:55:09,840
Speaker 4: in twenty twenty one AT ufc two sixty. Two SO

2471
01:55:10,200 --> 01:55:14,360
Speaker 4: i actually went To chandler's private jet location yesterday In

2472
01:55:14,400 --> 01:55:17,560
Speaker 4: Fort lauderdale to surprise him right as he was heading

2473
01:55:17,560 --> 01:55:20,280
Speaker 4: To New York. City and among the, Things kenny THAT

2474
01:55:20,320 --> 01:55:23,560
Speaker 4: i brought up with Mister chandler was that first fight

2475
01:55:23,600 --> 01:55:25,600
Speaker 4: With Charles, Olivera AND i can't think of that many

2476
01:55:25,640 --> 01:55:29,080
Speaker 4: instances IN ufc. History we've seen crazy comebacks Like Check

2477
01:55:29,160 --> 01:55:33,800
Speaker 4: kongo Against Pat barry, right But Shane carwin against Brock

2478
01:55:33,880 --> 01:55:36,280
Speaker 4: lesner was the only one that was front of mine for,

2479
01:55:36,360 --> 01:55:38,960
Speaker 4: me that a fighter got that close to winning an

2480
01:55:39,040 --> 01:55:42,920
Speaker 4: undisputed title without winning, it Like Michael chandler with a

2481
01:55:42,960 --> 01:55:46,080
Speaker 4: different refin there becomes the undisputed champion that. Night he

2482
01:55:46,240 --> 01:55:50,280
Speaker 4: was maybe one strike, away AND i just wonder how

2483
01:55:50,320 --> 01:55:54,120
Speaker 4: that plays into this. Rematch brian minus two point fifty

2484
01:55:54,120 --> 01:55:56,320
Speaker 4: eight for ol Of era plus two ten For. Chandler

2485
01:55:56,640 --> 01:55:57,040
Speaker 4: who do you?

2486
01:55:57,080 --> 01:56:00,520
Speaker 10: LOVE i hope it's in the four front in his. Mind,

2487
01:56:00,560 --> 01:56:02,760
Speaker 10: OBVIOUSLY i don't want him to be dwelling over. It

2488
01:56:03,160 --> 01:56:05,600
Speaker 10: but if he would have made a couple adjustments in

2489
01:56:05,640 --> 01:56:07,600
Speaker 10: that first, fight in that first, round he would be,

2490
01:56:07,680 --> 01:56:10,560
Speaker 10: champion Right AND i think he has the ability and

2491
01:56:10,640 --> 01:56:14,040
Speaker 10: the definitely the empower and explosiveness to do that, again

2492
01:56:14,080 --> 01:56:16,760
Speaker 10: to Hurt oliver and to maybe put him. OUT i

2493
01:56:16,840 --> 01:56:18,960
Speaker 10: just Think Charles oliver is in a different wavelength right.

2494
01:56:19,000 --> 01:56:21,760
Speaker 10: Now i'm Glad chandler gave up on the McGregor. Fight

2495
01:56:21,840 --> 01:56:23,960
Speaker 10: that's Not chandler's. FAULT i was one of the guys

2496
01:56:24,000 --> 01:56:26,120
Speaker 10: that said you should wait for the McGregor. FIGHT i

2497
01:56:26,160 --> 01:56:28,120
Speaker 10: just don't know if com McGregor's ever gonna fight. Again In,

2498
01:56:28,200 --> 01:56:31,440
Speaker 10: chandler that's a big, fight big pay, day big, opportunity

2499
01:56:31,560 --> 01:56:34,240
Speaker 10: SO i get. It but now he's moving. On he's

2500
01:56:34,280 --> 01:56:36,200
Speaker 10: laying out what he wants for the. Future he wants

2501
01:56:36,240 --> 01:56:39,160
Speaker 10: to be the oldest champion or a lightweight CHAMPION ufc.

2502
01:56:39,360 --> 01:56:40,320
Speaker 1: HISTORY i love. THAT i love the.

2503
01:56:40,360 --> 01:56:42,920
Speaker 10: Mentality he looks to be in phenomenal shape as. Well And,

2504
01:56:43,000 --> 01:56:45,240
Speaker 10: chandler though to me at this point in his, career

2505
01:56:45,280 --> 01:56:47,720
Speaker 10: is a one round. Fighter he slows, down he makes

2506
01:56:47,720 --> 01:56:50,320
Speaker 10: mistakes later on in the, fight and that's what he

2507
01:56:50,320 --> 01:56:53,600
Speaker 10: did Against. Oliver lack, focus got. Caught that's gonna happen

2508
01:56:53,640 --> 01:56:56,160
Speaker 10: against a guy Like Charles. Oliver But Charles olvera just

2509
01:56:56,200 --> 01:56:58,920
Speaker 10: looks so sharp on the feet on the. Ground he's

2510
01:56:59,040 --> 01:57:01,960
Speaker 10: nasty in. There he's fighting more, regularly WHICH i. LIKE

2511
01:57:02,040 --> 01:57:04,560
Speaker 10: i feel like he's really in his prime, now which

2512
01:57:04,600 --> 01:57:07,200
Speaker 10: is a scary thing to. Say AND i see it

2513
01:57:07,280 --> 01:57:09,879
Speaker 10: kind of being. SIMILAR i see it being very similar

2514
01:57:09,920 --> 01:57:11,760
Speaker 10: to the first, fight Where chandler might have a good

2515
01:57:11,840 --> 01:57:14,800
Speaker 10: round and then it's gonna be your classic club and

2516
01:57:14,880 --> 01:57:18,000
Speaker 10: Sub in my opinion for Oli, ERA i think he's

2517
01:57:18,040 --> 01:57:20,680
Speaker 10: gonna sit, them sit him, down tap him, out a

2518
01:57:20,680 --> 01:57:23,360
Speaker 10: little satin tap is what we call. IT i Like

2519
01:57:23,480 --> 01:57:25,880
Speaker 10: Charles olivera to win by. Submission that's How i'm gonna

2520
01:57:25,880 --> 01:57:29,080
Speaker 10: play this fight as. Well, Yeah ken.

2521
01:57:29,120 --> 01:57:31,640
Speaker 4: Flow Michael chandler now thirty eight years of. Age perhaps

2522
01:57:31,720 --> 01:57:33,560
Speaker 4: the time off in some part is a good. Thing

2523
01:57:33,800 --> 01:57:36,040
Speaker 4: he has talked a little bit about patients in some

2524
01:57:36,080 --> 01:57:39,680
Speaker 4: of those fight ending or potentially fight ending, situations but

2525
01:57:39,720 --> 01:57:41,480
Speaker 4: easier said than DON i don't know that this is

2526
01:57:41,480 --> 01:57:43,200
Speaker 4: a tiger that's going to all of a sudden change his.

2527
01:57:43,280 --> 01:57:46,480
Speaker 4: Stripes he hasn't fought since the loss To dustin POURRIEATE

2528
01:57:46,560 --> 01:57:50,960
Speaker 4: ufc two eighty. One that Was november twenty twenty, two same,

2529
01:57:51,040 --> 01:57:54,440
Speaker 4: building third time For chandler fighting In Madison Square. Garden

2530
01:57:55,760 --> 01:57:58,400
Speaker 4: problem could just be the opponent ken, flow though not the. Layoff,

2531
01:57:58,480 --> 01:58:00,880
Speaker 4: Right Charles olivera looked really good and losing a split

2532
01:58:00,920 --> 01:58:03,080
Speaker 4: To Armansaiergiana do you HAVE c three hundred AND i

2533
01:58:03,120 --> 01:58:05,760
Speaker 4: agree With, petrie LIKE i Think Charles olivera is in

2534
01:58:05,840 --> 01:58:09,080
Speaker 4: his fighting prime right. Now pretty widespread on the Number

2535
01:58:09,160 --> 01:58:10,760
Speaker 4: Kenny chandler And olivera in the comin.

2536
01:58:10,800 --> 01:58:14,040
Speaker 5: Event, YEAH i, mean, Listen olivera has a lot of,

2537
01:58:14,080 --> 01:58:17,320
Speaker 5: skills especially when it comes to, offense AND i think

2538
01:58:17,360 --> 01:58:20,480
Speaker 5: he's still, hungry AND i also think he's still striving

2539
01:58:20,520 --> 01:58:23,280
Speaker 5: to be a better fighter all the. TIME i Think

2540
01:58:23,360 --> 01:58:26,080
Speaker 5: chandler is putting in a lot of excellent work as.

2541
01:58:26,080 --> 01:58:27,640
Speaker 1: Well he's clearly.

2542
01:58:27,680 --> 01:58:31,240
Speaker 5: Committed but the problem With chandler is he's going To.

2543
01:58:31,320 --> 01:58:35,000
Speaker 5: CHANDLER i, mean how do you turn off someone who

2544
01:58:35,360 --> 01:58:38,600
Speaker 5: is going to go kind of face first into danger

2545
01:58:38,880 --> 01:58:44,320
Speaker 5: and that doesn't just happen, overnight and it's what makes

2546
01:58:44,400 --> 01:58:47,360
Speaker 5: him so exciting and so. Beloved but to do that

2547
01:58:47,400 --> 01:58:51,320
Speaker 5: against someone LIKE, olivera who has a lot of knives

2548
01:58:51,720 --> 01:58:54,120
Speaker 5: that he can throw at, YOU i think it's extremely,

2549
01:58:54,240 --> 01:58:58,080
Speaker 5: risky AND i think because of, THAT olivera wins this.

2550
01:58:58,160 --> 01:59:02,040
Speaker 5: Fight chandler can win this fight because we have Seen

2551
01:59:02,080 --> 01:59:03,040
Speaker 5: oliver are hurt.

2552
01:59:03,040 --> 01:59:03,440
Speaker 6: Before.

2553
01:59:03,640 --> 01:59:06,200
Speaker 5: Right he doesn't have the best chin in that he

2554
01:59:06,280 --> 01:59:09,680
Speaker 5: does get dropped from time to, time and his defense isn't,

2555
01:59:09,720 --> 01:59:13,040
Speaker 5: perfect BUT i think it's getting better all the, time

2556
01:59:14,120 --> 01:59:16,360
Speaker 5: And oliver is just gonna be too much of a.

2557
01:59:16,400 --> 01:59:17,080
Speaker 1: PROBLEM i think For.

2558
01:59:17,200 --> 01:59:21,520
Speaker 5: Chandler chandler's best bet is early and then after THAT

2559
01:59:21,560 --> 01:59:25,040
Speaker 5: i Think oliver takes over and finishes the job all.

2560
01:59:25,120 --> 01:59:27,360
Speaker 4: Right that brings us to the main event AT ufc

2561
01:59:27,400 --> 01:59:30,160
Speaker 4: three on nine for the heavyweight. Championship John jones minus

2562
01:59:30,200 --> 01:59:32,920
Speaker 4: six point. Fifty the number eight rank, Contender STEVE. A

2563
01:59:33,040 --> 01:59:36,480
Speaker 4: miachic is plus four. Seventy SO i set it up

2564
01:59:36,480 --> 01:59:38,720
Speaker 4: a little bit in terms of the inactivity off the

2565
01:59:38,760 --> 01:59:40,680
Speaker 4: top can. Flow John jones just one fight in the

2566
01:59:40,720 --> 01:59:43,880
Speaker 4: last four years and nine, months but a dominating win

2567
01:59:43,880 --> 01:59:46,000
Speaker 4: Over Seal ganda win the UNDISPUTED a heavyweight title AT

2568
01:59:46,040 --> 01:59:49,040
Speaker 4: ufc two to eighty. Five then the torn pectoral. Muscle

2569
01:59:49,400 --> 01:59:53,000
Speaker 4: it shall be done Here november, sixteenth under the lights

2570
01:59:53,040 --> 01:59:57,560
Speaker 4: at the world's most famous. Arena my twin Brother Jason

2571
01:59:57,600 --> 02:00:01,440
Speaker 4: annak is in the chat. Room let in, right let me.

2572
02:00:01,480 --> 02:00:06,720
Speaker 4: In we're gonna let him. In i'm trying to Get Ken, flows,

2573
02:00:10,280 --> 02:00:15,680
Speaker 4: hey grappling. Commentator let. Him how About June chin From

2574
02:00:15,760 --> 02:00:19,720
Speaker 4: Leaf Well Dropping, diaz O'Malley gaegee And Elias. TEHDORA i,

2575
02:00:19,760 --> 02:00:23,000
Speaker 4: mean what a G you just messed Up theodoro's name

2576
02:00:23,720 --> 02:00:27,120
Speaker 4: and she did. Not we've been live for two. Hours

2577
02:00:27,120 --> 02:00:27,720
Speaker 4: what do you have for?

2578
02:00:27,840 --> 02:00:27,920
Speaker 8: Me?

2579
02:00:28,160 --> 02:00:30,800
Speaker 4: Hey, Hey john bought me.

2580
02:00:30,880 --> 02:00:31,600
Speaker 1: This you like?

2581
02:00:31,640 --> 02:00:34,280
Speaker 4: It peatriot's. Green he was, like, oh you like wearing?

2582
02:00:34,360 --> 02:00:35,480
Speaker 4: Bandanas my wife hates.

2583
02:00:35,520 --> 02:00:35,680
Speaker 6: Him.

2584
02:00:35,720 --> 02:00:37,520
Speaker 4: NO i just wanted to say hello, boys BUT i

2585
02:00:37,560 --> 02:00:39,320
Speaker 4: had to just quickly say WHAT i did last week

2586
02:00:39,320 --> 02:00:40,160
Speaker 4: To Ken? Folk CAN i do?

2587
02:00:40,200 --> 02:00:40,360
Speaker 6: That and?

2588
02:00:40,360 --> 02:00:43,120
Speaker 4: Interrupt? Yeah, So, KENNY i don't know if you were,

2589
02:00:43,120 --> 02:00:44,920
Speaker 4: aware but And i'm happened to be wearing the. Shirt

2590
02:00:44,920 --> 02:00:49,360
Speaker 4: BUT Pgf Professional Grappling. FEDERATION i was just part of

2591
02:00:49,400 --> 02:00:51,839
Speaker 4: season seven AND i just ever break it. Down brandon,

2592
02:00:51,880 --> 02:00:56,320
Speaker 4: mccatharine b mack, YOU i mean the, Coaches, Hodger Gracie Carlos,

2593
02:00:56,760 --> 02:01:01,200
Speaker 4: Albarado Dean. Wester it's. Unbelievable, anyway who AM i forgetting doesn't,

2594
02:01:01,200 --> 02:01:03,640
Speaker 4: Matter but just So, kenny twenty. Fighters this happened to

2595
02:01:03,640 --> 02:01:06,360
Speaker 4: be two. Five it was season, Seven so twenty fighters

2596
02:01:06,680 --> 02:01:10,400
Speaker 4: compete for on five on four different. Teams one hundred

2597
02:01:10,400 --> 02:01:13,160
Speaker 4: grand goes to the winning. Team there's thirty matches a

2598
02:01:13,240 --> 02:01:15,760
Speaker 4: Day monday Through, thursday one hundred and twenty no gee.

2599
02:01:15,840 --> 02:01:19,400
Speaker 4: Matches they get into a playoff of eight fighters and

2600
02:01:19,440 --> 02:01:22,520
Speaker 4: that fighter wins twenty. G's but this guy the slogan

2601
02:01:22,640 --> 02:01:26,040
Speaker 4: is everything you love about sports plus jiu jitsu flow like.

2602
02:01:26,280 --> 02:01:28,480
Speaker 4: YOU i wish you had been, there and the only

2603
02:01:28,520 --> 02:01:30,240
Speaker 4: REASON i came on was just to sort of share

2604
02:01:30,280 --> 02:01:32,280
Speaker 4: that with. YOU i could have done it off, camera

2605
02:01:32,360 --> 02:01:34,840
Speaker 4: but it was a very interesting, experience a lot of jiu.

2606
02:01:34,920 --> 02:01:36,320
Speaker 4: Jitsu but my mind was, blown.

2607
02:01:36,720 --> 02:01:39,080
Speaker 5: DUDE i love seeing the fact that jiu jitsu is

2608
02:01:39,600 --> 02:01:42,000
Speaker 5: really just, now in the last year or, so getting

2609
02:01:42,040 --> 02:01:46,040
Speaker 5: the love it, deserves and people are becoming creative with

2610
02:01:46,160 --> 02:01:48,560
Speaker 5: the rule sets and how they're formulating this.

2611
02:01:48,600 --> 02:01:50,160
Speaker 1: Stuff it's exactly what the sport.

2612
02:01:50,280 --> 02:01:53,360
Speaker 5: Needs and to have legends Like Hadrick gracie and all those,

2613
02:01:53,400 --> 02:01:57,240
Speaker 5: guys you, know helping those fighters along is pretty.

2614
02:01:57,280 --> 02:01:57,480
Speaker 1: Sick.

2615
02:01:57,520 --> 02:01:59,800
Speaker 5: Man so it's great to. SEE i just started seeing

2616
02:01:59,800 --> 02:02:01,960
Speaker 5: the promotion for, it, Man so that's, uh that's.

2617
02:02:02,000 --> 02:02:02,440
Speaker 1: Exciting.

2618
02:02:03,040 --> 02:02:05,120
Speaker 4: ANYWAY i know you guys are about to pick the main.

2619
02:02:05,200 --> 02:02:08,320
Speaker 1: Event what's, Up? Bride what's up you?

2620
02:02:08,480 --> 02:02:08,640
Speaker 9: Got?

2621
02:02:08,720 --> 02:02:09,560
Speaker 4: John you got the main?

2622
02:02:09,600 --> 02:02:12,000
Speaker 1: Event? Bro he got the main? Event? Jay you saving?

2623
02:02:12,040 --> 02:02:15,760
Speaker 4: That oh, well you mean in The battle of The.

2624
02:02:16,000 --> 02:02:18,800
Speaker 4: LEGENDS i didn't care about a year. Ago, SORRY i

2625
02:02:18,800 --> 02:02:20,480
Speaker 4: don't care about it right. NOW i know you guys

2626
02:02:20,520 --> 02:02:22,400
Speaker 4: about to hype every up didn't care about a year.

2627
02:02:22,440 --> 02:02:24,840
Speaker 4: Ago don't care about it. Now neither one of them

2628
02:02:24,880 --> 02:02:26,760
Speaker 4: is gonna Fight aspen. All neither one of them is

2629
02:02:26,760 --> 02:02:30,680
Speaker 4: gonna fight. Aspenall you, know go, Ahead, John, Sorry, NO i.

2630
02:02:30,680 --> 02:02:33,080
Speaker 4: DON'T i, MEAN i, Dude, like neither one of them has,

2631
02:02:33,200 --> 02:02:36,120
Speaker 4: Fought like some of these kids have gone to, college

2632
02:02:36,160 --> 02:02:40,160
Speaker 4: matriculated as, freshmen and, graduate and neither one of these

2633
02:02:40,200 --> 02:02:42,880
Speaker 4: men has really fought in that entire. Time jones for

2634
02:02:42,920 --> 02:02:45,120
Speaker 4: two minutes and Steep a like not at. All SO

2635
02:02:45,400 --> 02:02:47,760
Speaker 4: i understand part of that. Sentiment we talked a little

2636
02:02:47,760 --> 02:02:49,440
Speaker 4: bit off the top of the. Show the extent to

2637
02:02:49,440 --> 02:02:51,640
Speaker 4: which this fight is actually box. Office we do have

2638
02:02:51,720 --> 02:02:53,480
Speaker 4: to let you. Go but it real quick handful in

2639
02:02:53,560 --> 02:02:56,520
Speaker 4: terms of what he was talking about THAT pgf, Right

2640
02:02:56,640 --> 02:02:58,480
Speaker 4: and it looks like maybe you and Doctor June chin

2641
02:02:58,560 --> 02:03:00,960
Speaker 4: got hit in that medical cannabis early. Today. Jay, anyway

2642
02:03:01,440 --> 02:03:06,880
Speaker 4: So i'm just KIDDING pgf, right like the entire league

2643
02:03:07,040 --> 02:03:10,760
Speaker 4: happening in the course of a, Week, kenny the draft

2644
02:03:10,840 --> 02:03:13,520
Speaker 4: like to, me one hundred and twenty jiu jitsu matches

2645
02:03:13,520 --> 02:03:15,160
Speaker 4: back to back to. Back it just sounds like too

2646
02:03:15,240 --> 02:03:19,320
Speaker 4: much for, me, Right, Kenny i'm telling you like THE pgf,

2647
02:03:19,400 --> 02:03:22,360
Speaker 4: STUFF i think is really really interesting formatically the way

2648
02:03:22,360 --> 02:03:25,160
Speaker 4: they set it all. Up the. DRAFT i sort of was, Thinking,

2649
02:03:25,200 --> 02:03:27,240
Speaker 4: kenny if you AND i started a fight, promotion AN

2650
02:03:27,320 --> 02:03:30,160
Speaker 4: mma fight. PROMOTION i know sometimes commissions have a hard

2651
02:03:30,200 --> 02:03:32,920
Speaker 4: time with guys competing multiple times in short order with

2652
02:03:33,040 --> 02:03:36,280
Speaker 4: cuts AND mma concussions, tough but it's not like jiu

2653
02:03:36,360 --> 02:03:39,960
Speaker 4: jitsu injuries can't happen, either. Right imagine AN mma league

2654
02:03:40,320 --> 02:03:43,680
Speaker 4: that was in ten, days potentially the whole, league the,

2655
02:03:43,800 --> 02:03:46,680
Speaker 4: draft everything in ten day and let me just get in.

2656
02:03:46,720 --> 02:03:49,240
Speaker 4: Here there's, Alternates, kenny and no points for a, jaw

2657
02:03:49,520 --> 02:03:52,360
Speaker 4: it's six points for a. Kill joint locks are three.

2658
02:03:52,400 --> 02:03:55,800
Speaker 4: Points you score points for your team. Anyway you're just

2659
02:03:55,840 --> 02:03:57,920
Speaker 4: fascinating and. FLOW i was thinking about you the whole. Time,

2660
02:03:57,960 --> 02:04:00,240
Speaker 4: so but you guys can pick the main. Event i'm

2661
02:04:00,280 --> 02:04:02,600
Speaker 4: happy to be, There john right behind. You don't get me,

2662
02:04:02,600 --> 02:04:05,400
Speaker 4: Wrong i'll be enjoying. It but, Uh STEVE. A miachich

2663
02:04:05,520 --> 02:04:09,280
Speaker 4: like good? Luck uh get out of.

2664
02:04:09,280 --> 02:04:14,600
Speaker 1: HERE i can't wait to see you guys. In it's de.

2665
02:04:14,760 --> 02:04:16,400
Speaker 8: Livable So.

2666
02:04:18,000 --> 02:04:20,440
Speaker 4: Jason doesn't seem to Think STEVE. A Miach is is

2667
02:04:20,480 --> 02:04:22,640
Speaker 4: as live an underdog as some. Others but let us

2668
02:04:22,680 --> 02:04:25,040
Speaker 4: get back into this main. Event and it is sort of,

2669
02:04:25,120 --> 02:04:28,640
Speaker 4: Interesting brian when you think About Steve a's last two

2670
02:04:28,680 --> 02:04:32,960
Speaker 4: fights happening a very long time ago at the Ufc, apex,

2671
02:04:33,040 --> 02:04:36,240
Speaker 4: right and YET i feel like he's got a chance

2672
02:04:36,280 --> 02:04:39,600
Speaker 4: to realize some success, here potentially in this matchup with

2673
02:04:39,640 --> 02:04:42,840
Speaker 4: the greatest of all. Time so what are your, Thoughts Brian,

2674
02:04:42,920 --> 02:04:47,160
Speaker 4: Petrie John jones minus six Fifty STEVE. A miachich plus four.

2675
02:04:47,240 --> 02:04:48,760
Speaker 4: Seventy we need a, Pick.

2676
02:04:48,960 --> 02:04:50,680
Speaker 1: YEAH i, MEAN i Get jason.

2677
02:04:50,800 --> 02:04:53,120
Speaker 10: SENTIMENT i don't know IF i would would word it

2678
02:04:53,160 --> 02:04:54,520
Speaker 10: the way he would, it but that's why he's the

2679
02:04:54,560 --> 02:04:57,800
Speaker 10: fucking best, listen nothing we. Want we Want tommy as

2680
02:04:57,920 --> 02:05:00,040
Speaker 10: want to Fight John, Jones that's what we, want and

2681
02:05:00,560 --> 02:05:05,360
Speaker 10: then Maybe Alex. Pajeda but Steep, a this guy had

2682
02:05:05,360 --> 02:05:07,080
Speaker 10: a little bit of trouble WITH ufce a while, ago,

2683
02:05:07,160 --> 02:05:09,480
Speaker 10: right like he didn't click with. Them he thought he

2684
02:05:09,520 --> 02:05:11,920
Speaker 10: was getting, overlooked he thought he was getting rushed, him

2685
02:05:11,920 --> 02:05:13,920
Speaker 10: and deigned to have a great. Relationship so this is

2686
02:05:13,960 --> 02:05:16,600
Speaker 10: an ultimate respect For, Steepe, like, hey it's been three

2687
02:05:16,640 --> 02:05:19,560
Speaker 10: and a half. Years we get. It we're putting you

2688
02:05:19,600 --> 02:05:22,080
Speaker 10: in this. Fight we're gonna respect. You you're the heavyweight goat,

2689
02:05:22,120 --> 02:05:24,480
Speaker 10: POTENTIALLY i know that's up for. Debate we're gonna put

2690
02:05:24,480 --> 02:05:26,480
Speaker 10: you against another. Goat, Right we're gonna respect what you've

2691
02:05:26,520 --> 02:05:29,360
Speaker 10: done to get this. Done but that doesn't mean that

2692
02:05:29,400 --> 02:05:31,760
Speaker 10: the fight's gonna be. BAD i think this is interesting fight.

2693
02:05:31,800 --> 02:05:35,000
Speaker 10: Here you like Steep a OR a lot of people

2694
02:05:35,000 --> 02:05:35,960
Speaker 10: are gonna Like stepe at this.

2695
02:05:36,080 --> 02:05:37,160
Speaker 1: NUMBER i.

2696
02:05:37,320 --> 02:05:40,840
Speaker 10: Don't i'm all Over John. Jones someone asked me a while,

2697
02:05:40,840 --> 02:05:42,480
Speaker 10: ago what do you Think john's gonna open? UP i

2698
02:05:42,520 --> 02:05:44,280
Speaker 10: thought he was gonna open out minus eight. Hundred he

2699
02:05:44,360 --> 02:05:46,280
Speaker 10: might have this might be beat. DOWN i thought he'd

2700
02:05:46,320 --> 02:05:48,800
Speaker 10: be eight to one you're showing me six fifty to

2701
02:05:48,800 --> 02:05:51,720
Speaker 10: one or six fifty currently right. NOW i love that

2702
02:05:51,760 --> 02:05:53,720
Speaker 10: On John. JONES i Think John jones has done everything

2703
02:05:53,760 --> 02:05:56,200
Speaker 10: right for this. Camp he brought In Gave, stevenson who

2704
02:05:56,280 --> 02:05:58,560
Speaker 10: is one of the if not the best heavyweight wrestler

2705
02:05:59,040 --> 02:06:01,160
Speaker 10: or currently is the best heay weight wrestling the. World Gordon,

2706
02:06:01,280 --> 02:06:04,200
Speaker 10: ryan who is. Unbelievable we were talking about jiu. Jitsu

2707
02:06:04,320 --> 02:06:07,360
Speaker 10: that guy is. INSANE i, MEAN i saw a video

2708
02:06:07,400 --> 02:06:09,920
Speaker 10: Where John jones is, LIKE i bet you five hundred

2709
02:06:09,960 --> 02:06:11,360
Speaker 10: BUCKS i can get up from your. Guard he cut

2710
02:06:11,440 --> 02:06:13,040
Speaker 10: it Like Gordon ryan just pinned this guy on the

2711
02:06:13,040 --> 02:06:16,040
Speaker 10: ground and it's him so impressive and every you, know

2712
02:06:16,200 --> 02:06:18,560
Speaker 10: not to mention all Of john's skills is striking EVERYTHING i.

2713
02:06:18,600 --> 02:06:20,080
Speaker 10: Know we've only seen a little bit of him at.

2714
02:06:20,080 --> 02:06:22,520
Speaker 10: Heavyweight he looks a little leaner than he did Against Cyril.

2715
02:06:22,520 --> 02:06:24,640
Speaker 10: Gone and the one thing About steepe is we've never

2716
02:06:24,640 --> 02:06:27,160
Speaker 10: really seen stepa grapple too. Much we've seen him anti.

2717
02:06:27,200 --> 02:06:29,840
Speaker 10: GRAPPLE dc took him down and pounded him out a little,

2718
02:06:29,840 --> 02:06:31,880
Speaker 10: bit but that's WHAT dc wants to. Do john's gonna

2719
02:06:31,880 --> 02:06:33,360
Speaker 10: take you down and put an elbow through your fucking

2720
02:06:33,400 --> 02:06:36,080
Speaker 10: head and look for a, neck. Right this guy's nasty in,

2721
02:06:36,160 --> 02:06:37,200
Speaker 10: there AND.

2722
02:06:37,960 --> 02:06:40,320
Speaker 1: I was never. Huge John jones is the goat, guy.

2723
02:06:40,480 --> 02:06:43,000
Speaker 10: Right maybe It's dana banging into my head for over

2724
02:06:43,000 --> 02:06:44,680
Speaker 10: the past couple of, months but, yeah this guy is

2725
02:06:44,680 --> 02:06:48,640
Speaker 10: something special And i'm all Over Johnny Bones jones here can't.

2726
02:06:48,640 --> 02:06:53,480
Speaker 4: Float John jones prohibitively favored according to some minus fifty

2727
02:06:53,600 --> 02:06:55,720
Speaker 4: minus six to FIFTY sepa me And chicks plus four.

2728
02:06:55,880 --> 02:06:59,520
Speaker 4: Seventy now is the time we need your. Selection oooh.

2729
02:06:59,520 --> 02:07:03,080
Speaker 5: Boy all, Right so, yeah, LISTEN i think there's a

2730
02:07:03,200 --> 02:07:05,200
Speaker 5: there's a lot of question, marks as we talked about

2731
02:07:05,240 --> 02:07:07,880
Speaker 5: earlier in the show about you, know What John jones

2732
02:07:07,960 --> 02:07:09,800
Speaker 5: is going to show, up what STEEP A miachi is

2733
02:07:09,800 --> 02:07:12,440
Speaker 5: going to show. Up one thing is clear is That

2734
02:07:12,520 --> 02:07:17,000
Speaker 5: John jones is prepping very seriously for this. Matchup AND

2735
02:07:17,120 --> 02:07:19,720
Speaker 5: i think maybe there's been some other matchups where he

2736
02:07:19,880 --> 02:07:22,760
Speaker 5: didn't do his due diligence right on some of those,

2737
02:07:22,800 --> 02:07:26,040
Speaker 5: things and SO i think he's he's working, hard he's

2738
02:07:26,040 --> 02:07:29,840
Speaker 5: putting in the, work he's staying. Focused you, KNOW i

2739
02:07:30,120 --> 02:07:32,280
Speaker 5: think he's been hearing a lot of backlash from the,

2740
02:07:32,320 --> 02:07:34,680
Speaker 5: fans AND i think he wants to make a, statement

2741
02:07:34,840 --> 02:07:39,040
Speaker 5: and a Motivated John jones is a Dangerous John. Jones,

2742
02:07:39,040 --> 02:07:42,280
Speaker 5: however he's taking taking a guy on And STEVE. A,

2743
02:07:42,400 --> 02:07:45,960
Speaker 5: miachich who you know has knockout. Power he has proven

2744
02:07:46,000 --> 02:07:48,919
Speaker 5: that against you, know some great strikers like Alstro. Overing

2745
02:07:49,040 --> 02:07:51,120
Speaker 5: yes it happened with ground and, pounds so you, know

2746
02:07:51,200 --> 02:07:53,280
Speaker 5: and so he can take people, down he can defend,

2747
02:07:53,320 --> 02:07:56,440
Speaker 5: takedowns he has a shit ton of experience when it

2748
02:07:56,480 --> 02:07:59,760
Speaker 5: comes to big. Fights so all those things are very Positive.

2749
02:07:59,760 --> 02:08:02,200
Speaker 5: Sun but at forty two years, old with a long,

2750
02:08:02,280 --> 02:08:06,320
Speaker 5: layoff going against WHO i think is the, Goat John,

2751
02:08:06,400 --> 02:08:11,040
Speaker 5: jones there's a lot going against him, here AND i think, that.

2752
02:08:12,680 --> 02:08:16,200
Speaker 1: You, Know jones is really good.

2753
02:08:16,280 --> 02:08:19,880
Speaker 5: EVERYWHERE i think, Again stepe's best shot is trying to

2754
02:08:19,920 --> 02:08:23,080
Speaker 5: Catch John jones. Early John jones is the kind of,

2755
02:08:23,080 --> 02:08:25,839
Speaker 5: guy like a lot of other great and intelligent, fighters

2756
02:08:25,840 --> 02:08:28,440
Speaker 5: that takes time to analyze. You he wants to figure

2757
02:08:28,480 --> 02:08:31,920
Speaker 5: you out and then pick you. Apart and it's in

2758
02:08:31,920 --> 02:08:34,680
Speaker 5: that first five to seven minutes where you could potentially

2759
02:08:35,000 --> 02:08:36,480
Speaker 5: test the vulnerability Of John.

2760
02:08:36,560 --> 02:08:39,120
Speaker 1: Jones but after that it's going to be extremely.

2761
02:08:39,160 --> 02:08:42,040
Speaker 5: DIFFICULT i Like John jones, here most likely by finish

2762
02:08:42,360 --> 02:08:44,120
Speaker 5: that does not take away from everything Step.

2763
02:08:44,160 --> 02:08:45,720
Speaker 1: A miachich has accomplished in this.

2764
02:08:45,840 --> 02:08:49,680
Speaker 5: Sport he's an amazing, dude an amazing, fighter AND i

2765
02:08:49,720 --> 02:08:52,600
Speaker 5: am happy that he is going to get a very

2766
02:08:52,720 --> 02:08:54,360
Speaker 5: large check at the end of that, night.

2767
02:08:55,520 --> 02:08:57,240
Speaker 1: That he will all.

2768
02:08:57,320 --> 02:08:59,240
Speaker 4: Right our bets FOR ufc three on nine coming up

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Speaker 4: in a, minute real, Quick, brian any action On Jake

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02:09:02,000 --> 02:09:05,800
Speaker 4: paul And Mike. Tyson Jake paul minus two Twenty Mike

2771
02:09:05,840 --> 02:09:09,080
Speaker 4: tyson plus one seventy, five both guys in the plus

2772
02:09:09,080 --> 02:09:11,160
Speaker 4: column when it comes to winning by. Knockout will you

2773
02:09:11,160 --> 02:09:11,880
Speaker 4: have any action on the.

2774
02:09:11,880 --> 02:09:15,480
Speaker 10: Fight i'm not A Jake paul. Hater i've actually respected

2775
02:09:15,520 --> 02:09:17,840
Speaker 10: what he's. Done he's gotten. Better he doesn't have to do.

2776
02:09:17,880 --> 02:09:21,080
Speaker 10: This you're fighting a six year old. Man it just

2777
02:09:21,160 --> 02:09:23,080
Speaker 10: sours me just a little, bit even though It's Mike.

2778
02:09:23,120 --> 02:09:25,480
Speaker 10: Tyson sowers me a little. BIT i saw he's making

2779
02:09:25,480 --> 02:09:27,040
Speaker 10: like forty. Million tyson's making twenty.

2780
02:09:27,080 --> 02:09:29,120
Speaker 1: Million go get, paid, boys get your.

2781
02:09:29,160 --> 02:09:31,160
Speaker 10: Money that's. Cool but IF i had a gun HIM

2782
02:09:31,160 --> 02:09:33,640
Speaker 10: i had to, pick it'd Be Jake paul Ken.

2783
02:09:33,680 --> 02:09:35,920
Speaker 4: FLOW i know a lot of people are scoffing At

2784
02:09:36,000 --> 02:09:38,480
Speaker 4: Jake paul fighting a fifty eight year Old Mike. Tyson

2785
02:09:38,600 --> 02:09:41,640
Speaker 4: but yet it's not as Though Jake paul is minus one, thousand,

2786
02:09:42,000 --> 02:09:45,560
Speaker 4: right he is five times less a favorite Than Bo.

2787
02:09:45,720 --> 02:09:47,440
Speaker 4: Nickels so what do you have for us On Tyson

2788
02:09:47,480 --> 02:09:49,960
Speaker 4: paul before we get back to the real matter at?

2789
02:09:50,080 --> 02:09:52,360
Speaker 5: End, no, LISTEN i think for those that are betting this,

2790
02:09:52,440 --> 02:09:54,680
Speaker 5: FIGHT i do think there's a little bit of value On,

2791
02:09:54,720 --> 02:09:55,760
Speaker 5: mike no question about.

2792
02:09:55,800 --> 02:09:57,040
Speaker 1: It you, know you can't count him.

2793
02:09:57,040 --> 02:09:59,520
Speaker 5: Out, however you, know just like a you, know in

2794
02:09:59,560 --> 02:10:03,560
Speaker 5: a lot of different, sports physicality matters or a lack,

2795
02:10:03,640 --> 02:10:07,040
Speaker 5: thereof and as you get, older you start to lose those. Gifts,

2796
02:10:07,080 --> 02:10:10,320
Speaker 5: Now Mike tyson is certainly not your typical fifty eight

2797
02:10:10,400 --> 02:10:13,960
Speaker 5: year old, either SO i think that's something to take into. Consideration,

2798
02:10:14,320 --> 02:10:18,560
Speaker 5: however twenty seven versus fifty, eight that's a huge. DISPARITY

2799
02:10:18,600 --> 02:10:22,280
Speaker 5: i have to Have Jake paul as the favorite, here,

2800
02:10:22,400 --> 02:10:25,640
Speaker 5: Right and you, know and he's proven himself to be

2801
02:10:25,680 --> 02:10:29,920
Speaker 5: a decent, boxer and obviously he's blessed with some physicality

2802
02:10:29,920 --> 02:10:32,280
Speaker 5: in his own, right competed as a restler when he was,

2803
02:10:32,360 --> 02:10:35,440
Speaker 5: younger no stranger to. That he's had some good boxing

2804
02:10:35,480 --> 02:10:39,800
Speaker 5: matches against some decent fighters perhaps past their. Prime So

2805
02:10:39,840 --> 02:10:41,520
Speaker 5: i'm leaning the way Of Jake, paul BUT i do

2806
02:10:41,520 --> 02:10:44,280
Speaker 5: think there's some value For Mike, tyson especially early in this,

2807
02:10:44,360 --> 02:10:45,560
Speaker 5: fight to get it done with his.

2808
02:10:45,680 --> 02:10:48,840
Speaker 4: POWER i feel Like Jake paul's mentality IS i need

2809
02:10:48,880 --> 02:10:50,320
Speaker 4: to get this fifty eight year old out of there

2810
02:10:50,320 --> 02:10:52,160
Speaker 4: at all costs if there's going to be any upside to.

2811
02:10:52,200 --> 02:10:54,520
Speaker 4: This So Jake paul plus one twenty, FIVE i think

2812
02:10:54,560 --> 02:10:57,600
Speaker 4: by knockout OR tko would be the value proposition for.

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Speaker 1: NOT i. Am i'm gonna.

2859
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Speaker 1: Bit so we're gonna start. Simple we're gonna put a

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Speaker 1: two hundred fifty dollars bet On marcus.

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Speaker 5: Uh and then we're gonna do a seven hundred and

2866
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