WEBVTT - Episode 326 w/ NE-YO 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:03.320 Don't mix that drink. Hit it's straight cast. So bo 0:00:03.440 --> 0:00:06.520 up now, I was too late. Don't mix that drink 0:00:06.720 --> 0:00:09.360 hit it's straight cast, so bar up now. I was 0:00:09.400 --> 0:00:16.320 too late. Drink Japanese whiskey preferably Yeah Mazaka eight teams definitely, 0:00:16.640 --> 0:00:19.680 I still got you, like who gottat you spending big 0:00:19.680 --> 0:00:22.840 money since big hat who shot you? Time and is everything? 0:00:22.920 --> 0:00:25.560 So why you gotta whack watch? I got security and 0:00:25.640 --> 0:00:28.360 snipers on the black block. 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I'm really yappy, really drinking your jews 0:01:08.240 --> 0:01:12.120 because y'all drink happy fad Winkle my suit stone Winkle 0:01:12.400 --> 0:01:15.560 always had the piss. I never had the twinkle, nor 0:01:15.600 --> 0:01:18.560 re masculine. Yes, we had to masculate big boy trucks. 0:01:18.600 --> 0:01:20.840 In the big boys, we had to left. I see 0:01:20.840 --> 0:01:23.360 they claiming that they rich to the bill, come to 0:01:23.480 --> 0:01:25.840 they accident or I got him, like they tell drawing 0:01:25.959 --> 0:01:28.120 a new life to me? Like new life to me? 0:01:29.000 --> 0:01:31.520 Is cocaine a whole new white to me? I see 0:01:31.560 --> 0:01:34.200 they copy me without a gun. It's still a robbery. 0:01:34.560 --> 0:01:39.000 Drink camces ahnomenally looks that drink and it's straight cast. 0:01:39.040 --> 0:01:42.080 Sole up now, I was too late. Don't make that 0:01:42.240 --> 0:01:45.360 drink and it's straight cast. So up now I was 0:01:45.400 --> 0:01:50.840 too late. Come in drink with me, Get shook and 0:01:51.040 --> 0:01:56.120 drunk too. Come in drink with me, Get your cousin 0:01:56.360 --> 0:02:02.360 come through. Welcome to Drink Champs, the production of The 0:02:02.400 --> 0:02:16.720 Black Effect and I Heart Radio and it's Drink chas 0:02:16.760 --> 0:02:21.919 motherfucking podcast. He's a legendary queen's rapper. He's like Green 0:02:22.000 --> 0:02:24.440 is your boy in O R. He's a Miami hip 0:02:24.440 --> 0:02:28.120 hop pioneer d J E f N. Together, they drink 0:02:28.160 --> 0:02:30.720 it up with some of the biggest players in the 0:02:30.840 --> 0:02:35.320 most professional unprofessional podcast and yet number one sort for 0:02:35.440 --> 0:02:40.079 drunk fast drink is New year Z does time for 0:02:40.320 --> 0:02:49.840 drink Champs drink up. What would it good be? Hopeys? 0:02:49.840 --> 0:02:51.720 What it should be? This is your boy and right 0:02:51.800 --> 0:02:53.400 what up is d J E f N and it 0:02:53.480 --> 0:03:01.280 is drink chance make some when when you talk about 0:03:02.200 --> 0:03:06.359 a man that got eight albums, been in the game, 0:03:08.240 --> 0:03:13.280 making hits after hits, his he got his own, his playlist, 0:03:13.320 --> 0:03:15.560 pop listening to his playlist, and she just keep going 0:03:16.680 --> 0:03:20.040 and just keep going because he just making world music 0:03:21.800 --> 0:03:25.520 and then writing music for others. We talk about songwriter, composer, 0:03:27.000 --> 0:03:31.080 all of that. Actor, he was even on a mass singer. 0:03:31.160 --> 0:03:36.000 I think she's wild out his motherfucker. This motherfuckers out 0:03:36.000 --> 0:03:40.560 there doing it, still making the still making baby, making music. 0:03:42.560 --> 0:03:45.720 He got he got a little bit stuck up in 0:03:45.760 --> 0:03:48.560 the pandemic and then he then the pandemic helped him 0:03:48.880 --> 0:03:52.800 fixes goddamn marriage like a man to post him In 0:03:52.840 --> 0:03:54.640 case you don't know who were talking about, you don't 0:03:54.640 --> 0:04:04.200 a matter one. The only I remember one time I've 0:04:04.200 --> 0:04:06.400 seen you at soho house. This is right when you 0:04:06.480 --> 0:04:08.400 was going through the break up. I knew nothing. I 0:04:08.520 --> 0:04:11.800 knew not the interview. I was like, oh no, I 0:04:12.240 --> 0:04:14.160 never seen you like that. Yeah, that might that might 0:04:14.200 --> 0:04:17.040 have been a bad I think I think I made 0:04:17.040 --> 0:04:21.160 the good. Was like, nah, but how how is that? 0:04:21.200 --> 0:04:26.920 Because um uh I was I was getting the world 0:04:27.000 --> 0:04:29.400 knew you was breaking up, but the pandemic actually helped 0:04:29.560 --> 0:04:32.400 you out. Yeah, man, so we um. But right before 0:04:32.440 --> 0:04:34.719 the pandemic was was when things was at his worst. 0:04:34.720 --> 0:04:36.640 You know what I'm saying, Like, just couldn't talk to 0:04:36.680 --> 0:04:39.600 each other, you know, like it's clearly beef. But I'm 0:04:39.640 --> 0:04:41.320 on tour, I see you win three weeks, you know 0:04:41.320 --> 0:04:43.719 what I'm saying, that type of thing. So when the 0:04:43.760 --> 0:04:47.040 pandemic hit and everybody had to go home, it kind 0:04:47.040 --> 0:04:48.840 of forced us to sit in each other's face and 0:04:48.880 --> 0:04:50.320 talk about the stuff that we had that we just 0:04:50.400 --> 0:04:54.120 wasn't talking. No, we mean, it wasn't. So when the 0:04:54.200 --> 0:04:56.359 pandemic hit, there was a multitude of places that I 0:04:56.360 --> 0:04:58.520 could have went, but my in the beginning, they wasn't 0:04:58.520 --> 0:05:01.239 really telling us nothing. So I'm like, listen, Cats is dying. 0:05:01.279 --> 0:05:04.279 And when we got to go home and the NBA 0:05:04.320 --> 0:05:06.080 has shut down already, I'm gonna go to my house 0:05:06.080 --> 0:05:07.919 house I'm gonna go where I know my kids is 0:05:07.920 --> 0:05:09.479 at when my why I know my mama at where 0:05:09.480 --> 0:05:11.200 I know my you know, my wife don't like me 0:05:11.279 --> 0:05:13.040 right now, But it's alright, because if we're gonna die, 0:05:13.040 --> 0:05:15.080 we're gonna figure it out. Yeah, it was, it was. 0:05:15.120 --> 0:05:18.000 It was that that was the thought process. It's pretty harsh. 0:05:18.279 --> 0:05:22.800 I'm just saying, really had to confront yeah, talk, I mean, 0:05:22.880 --> 0:05:25.240 and it was. It was scary because you know, I mean, 0:05:25.560 --> 0:05:29.960 I think the whole concept of the pandemic and just 0:05:29.960 --> 0:05:32.360 just you know, people was dying every week and all that. 0:05:32.400 --> 0:05:35.360 I definitely feel like that helped us really go, like, listen, 0:05:36.160 --> 0:05:37.880 people say life is short all the time, but it's 0:05:37.880 --> 0:05:39.240 in our face now we might want to just go 0:05:39.320 --> 0:05:42.240 ahead and figure out if get right whatever it is 0:05:42.240 --> 0:05:44.200 we need to get right, you know, just just just 0:05:44.320 --> 0:05:46.840 in case, just in case, because life is short, let's 0:05:46.880 --> 0:05:49.240 let's figure it out now. I heard you say somewhere 0:05:49.320 --> 0:05:52.160 that you said, uh you said, he was like, yo, man, 0:05:52.200 --> 0:05:56.040 if this album doesn't do well, I wouldn't lose no sleep. Nope. 0:05:56.279 --> 0:05:58.400 Is that is that? Is that the time when when 0:05:58.400 --> 0:06:03.880 you think like that, is it time to hang it up? Okay? 0:06:04.240 --> 0:06:07.760 Not at all. No. So so here's the thing. My 0:06:07.760 --> 0:06:10.200 my definition of success has changed a little bit over 0:06:10.240 --> 0:06:11.880 the years. Like I did them, I got, I got 0:06:11.960 --> 0:06:14.880 the money, I got the fame and recognition, I got 0:06:15.040 --> 0:06:17.359 the accolades, I got grand mus I got all that. 0:06:17.520 --> 0:06:21.160 So like now and now, my my definition of success 0:06:21.279 --> 0:06:24.920 is like you know, people using my music for their 0:06:24.920 --> 0:06:27.440 first dance as they marriage at their wedding, or or 0:06:27.720 --> 0:06:30.320 you know, uh yeah, I got three kids because of 0:06:30.320 --> 0:06:32.920 your music, or what I'm sorry your congratulations. One of 0:06:32.960 --> 0:06:38.560 the two are so so now it's it's like I'm 0:06:38.600 --> 0:06:40.720 not I'm not just I'm not out here on from 0:06:40.760 --> 0:06:43.080 oh man, I hope, I hope I sell a trillion 0:06:43.160 --> 0:06:44.919 records like if I mean, don't get me wrong, nobody 0:06:44.920 --> 0:06:47.599 wants they product to not do well. But if it 0:06:47.680 --> 0:06:50.279 don't do well, my kids are still gonna eat. You 0:06:50.279 --> 0:06:52.240 know what I'm saying. My house ain't going nowhere. I'm 0:06:52.279 --> 0:06:54.560 I'm gonna be right, I'm gonna be right. So so 0:06:54.760 --> 0:06:56.839 at this point, I'm having fun with the music. So no, 0:06:57.040 --> 0:06:59.440 it's the exact opposite. It's not time to not time 0:06:59.480 --> 0:07:02.599 to it up. At this point, I'm I'm enjoying myself 0:07:02.600 --> 0:07:07.880 with this. I'm not letting the the pressure of oh, 0:07:08.040 --> 0:07:10.280 we gotta do so well. I'm not letting that bother me. Man, Like, 0:07:10.320 --> 0:07:13.320 if if I'm doing what makes sense to me, I'm 0:07:13.360 --> 0:07:15.320 doing what feels good to me, and I'm rocking with 0:07:15.400 --> 0:07:18.000 like minded people. And if you don't dig what I'm doing, 0:07:18.200 --> 0:07:20.120 there's so many other options for you, Like you can 0:07:20.160 --> 0:07:22.040 go anywhere. You know, I'm rocking with the Fox is 0:07:22.120 --> 0:07:25.000 rocking with me. Okay, do you do you want some rock? 0:07:25.680 --> 0:07:28.000 H come? Because because you know why, um, you know 0:07:28.280 --> 0:07:31.680 the fans critiqued us when when we didn't give them 0:07:31.680 --> 0:07:36.520 the drink because yeah, if they brought their own bottles, Yeah, 0:07:37.040 --> 0:07:40.040 drink Champs. I'm kind of what's the lady actually gonna 0:07:40.120 --> 0:07:45.160 for the drink? Because we fired Mr. Yeah, we used 0:07:45.160 --> 0:07:50.480 to only have a bottom boy, Jack Bottom. Can the 0:07:50.480 --> 0:07:55.000 bottom boy get their us? What's I go with the 0:07:55.000 --> 0:07:59.480 regular drink? Regular rock? Yeah? Blue Die, Yeah, we upgraded that. 0:07:59.720 --> 0:08:02.800 We we we've got RB nigger head. We can't having 0:08:02.800 --> 0:08:08.440 no dudes for him, No goddamn drink than you're going straight. 0:08:08.920 --> 0:08:13.640 You're going straight? Now? Give me Ginger? Okay, alright, Ginger, Okay, 0:08:13.680 --> 0:08:17.680 that's a unique one. You drink vodka and ginger. Ain't 0:08:17.680 --> 0:08:20.520 gonna lie. Listening to your records, just going through and 0:08:20.560 --> 0:08:22.320 preparing for this. I saw what he was gonna drink. 0:08:22.400 --> 0:08:28.880 Jack Daniels, Jack Danner, how did you get that? I 0:08:28.920 --> 0:08:33.120 don't know what I mentioned you writing music? Slip? You 0:08:33.160 --> 0:08:36.920 cave me slipping, I sweeping, came in slippers and I 0:08:37.000 --> 0:08:39.240 been to you with like a big cue and just 0:08:39.280 --> 0:08:41.480 sitting there just right. Yeah, I mean that's that's a 0:08:41.480 --> 0:08:43.360 flop picture. Yeah, okay, you might have to take a 0:08:43.360 --> 0:08:47.280 photograph like I'm abouta dude. Man, honestly, can't really drink 0:08:47.360 --> 0:08:49.959 much else like wee tequila. We we ain't friends. Man, 0:08:50.559 --> 0:08:53.640 I'm killer at all bad. Yeah, and then call yourself 0:08:53.640 --> 0:08:57.480 with Japanese DELI on that's a killer. It's okay, I've 0:08:57.520 --> 0:09:01.240 never had that. You never had. You're experious today by 0:09:02.720 --> 0:09:07.679 eight pieces, you're getting prepared because we're gonna come right. Okay, 0:09:07.720 --> 0:09:10.360 but alright, so not you're not a Jack James guy. 0:09:10.840 --> 0:09:13.600 Not not a come yet guy. I mean I can 0:09:13.920 --> 0:09:19.440 make me mad. I don't know, it's weird if you 0:09:19.559 --> 0:09:22.280 if you drinking, I'm like, all right, he's gonna he's 0:09:22.280 --> 0:09:30.320 gonna start some ship indeed, Yeah, especially Hennessey. But it's 0:09:30.400 --> 0:09:34.600 great space. You already know how I feel about that. 0:09:34.800 --> 0:09:37.600 You don't drink rare occasions that I drink? Did I drink? Coming? 0:09:37.800 --> 0:09:40.520 Could have do? I definitely like do se, but I 0:09:40.600 --> 0:09:42.400 just can't drink a lot of it because I'd be 0:09:42.440 --> 0:09:44.440 ready to fight. And none of my people ever let 0:09:44.520 --> 0:09:46.240 me fight. And I get even matter because they won't 0:09:46.320 --> 0:09:48.080 let me fight. No, we don't want to see Neo fight. 0:09:48.720 --> 0:09:50.800 Some white want to see Neo fight unless it's like 0:09:50.920 --> 0:09:52.480 get another R and B dude, and we want to 0:09:52.520 --> 0:09:58.920 see like we want. We want you to push each 0:09:58.920 --> 0:10:02.760 other like you hit me, because don't you don't want 0:10:02.760 --> 0:10:05.760 to see you make it great? You make great music? 0:10:05.800 --> 0:10:08.079 And what what what makes you? What makes you stay 0:10:09.679 --> 0:10:11.400 stay doing it? Like you said you got the one? 0:10:11.480 --> 0:10:15.640 You got everything? Um does an artist always be making 0:10:15.640 --> 0:10:18.960 an artist all? I mean, I can't speak for nobody else, 0:10:19.000 --> 0:10:21.199 but I do this because I love it like I didn't. 0:10:21.320 --> 0:10:23.400 I didn't get into the game to be rich and 0:10:23.400 --> 0:10:25.199 famous and all of that, like I mean, those things 0:10:25.240 --> 0:10:28.160 are French benefit cool. But I got into this because 0:10:28.200 --> 0:10:30.520 somebody told me that I can make a living doing 0:10:30.559 --> 0:10:32.680 some ship that I was just gonna do anyway. Like 0:10:32.720 --> 0:10:34.600 I literally I have a studio in my crib. If 0:10:34.640 --> 0:10:36.560 you can't find me, that's where I'm at. Like I 0:10:36.600 --> 0:10:38.200 don't need to, I don't. I don't do it for 0:10:38.240 --> 0:10:40.560 that for that reason. So that's the thing that keeps 0:10:40.559 --> 0:10:43.080 me going, just just a genuine love for the craft. 0:10:43.160 --> 0:10:45.520 Like I'll do music for free. Let me not say that, 0:10:45.559 --> 0:10:52.560 because something can come something stop getting right now, everybody, 0:10:54.559 --> 0:10:59.960 I gotta do it before and then you give us 0:11:00.000 --> 0:11:09.840 wonder no man, because man, the the level of of 0:11:09.880 --> 0:11:14.880 substance in your music, that the it's just remarkable, like 0:11:15.160 --> 0:11:19.480 I and and for you to be so successful and 0:11:19.520 --> 0:11:22.760 can still tap into that area is that's that's like 0:11:23.160 --> 0:11:26.319 how do you do that? Because I'm not defined by 0:11:26.440 --> 0:11:32.200 my success? Like that's not what that will free you? Yeah? Absolutely, 0:11:32.520 --> 0:11:34.920 I mean there's there's definitely a point in your career 0:11:35.040 --> 0:11:36.920 where all right, you have to top of your game 0:11:36.960 --> 0:11:40.520 and and and everybody you know, everybody's favorite, and everybody's 0:11:40.520 --> 0:11:43.240 your best friend or long lost family member, whatever case 0:11:43.320 --> 0:11:46.480 may be. And there there's a point where if you're 0:11:46.520 --> 0:11:48.719 not careful, you could start smelling your own ship, you know, 0:11:48.880 --> 0:11:50.840 so you can start feeling like, wait, maybe I am 0:11:50.960 --> 0:11:54.040 that dude, right, but I've I've I thank God for 0:11:54.120 --> 0:11:55.920 my team because I've always had a type of people 0:11:55.920 --> 0:11:57.920 around me that that was gonna let me know, like, hey, 0:11:57.960 --> 0:12:00.320 if that ain't it, yo, Neil, that ain't it you 0:12:00.320 --> 0:12:01.760 know what I mean? Like that's that's the kind of 0:12:01.760 --> 0:12:03.400 folks that I keep around me. I don't have no 0:12:03.559 --> 0:12:05.559 yes men. I can't do that, you know what I'm saying. 0:12:05.559 --> 0:12:07.720 I need people arond me that I know are looking 0:12:07.720 --> 0:12:09.400 out for me, and that that's the kind of cast 0:12:09.480 --> 0:12:11.760 that I wrote with so being them. And then on 0:12:11.840 --> 0:12:14.360 top of that, I'm just not that dude, Like I've 0:12:14.400 --> 0:12:17.120 always been the kind of cat that wanted what I 0:12:17.160 --> 0:12:18.839 was doing to speak for itself, Like I don't. I 0:12:18.880 --> 0:12:20.440 don't got to sit here and bragg on what I've done. 0:12:20.480 --> 0:12:24.840 Push play that's me right? So um, because because you 0:12:24.880 --> 0:12:27.760 did like a versus But yeah, but we did it 0:12:27.840 --> 0:12:32.040 when it was like you know, in the pandemic. We 0:12:33.240 --> 0:12:34.400 I mean, we did what we had to do at 0:12:34.400 --> 0:12:37.400 the time, so it wasn't that yet. And if you 0:12:37.440 --> 0:12:39.920 were doing over what you should, who would you want 0:12:39.920 --> 0:12:42.640 to do against Because I was honestly going to ask y'all. 0:12:42.679 --> 0:12:45.280 That because I've been talking to the versus people because 0:12:45.280 --> 0:12:46.720 I told him I'm down to do it. They want 0:12:46.720 --> 0:12:48.520 me to do it, like who, and I'm like, I 0:12:48.520 --> 0:12:55.000 don't know Chris Brown. Now, I see, I was on 0:12:55.120 --> 0:12:57.040 an impression that the world wanted to see Chris and 0:12:57.040 --> 0:13:02.800 I should go at it. So you and dream, Okay, 0:13:03.120 --> 0:13:07.200 you're kind of like j Z both for y'all. From 0:13:07.200 --> 0:13:09.040 a songwriter standpoint, I feel like that would be a 0:13:09.080 --> 0:13:21.000 really dope versus You need to relax. No, no, I 0:13:21.040 --> 0:13:23.160 gotta love about be shot about you. But come on, 0:13:23.400 --> 0:13:26.439 it'll be I mean, it would have to make sense, man, 0:13:26.480 --> 0:13:29.400 I mean mind. So it's twenty records, you know, records. 0:13:29.440 --> 0:13:31.640 So as long as the cat got twenty records, we 0:13:31.720 --> 0:13:35.080 can rack out. But tony records versus twenty hits, it's 0:13:35.120 --> 0:13:39.079 gonna be difficult for anybody, you know what I mean? Hey, listen, 0:13:39.760 --> 0:13:42.400 my flex is like it's it's minimal, you know, like 0:13:42.480 --> 0:13:47.600 the machine off. It's minimal, like the machine up. Holy, 0:13:48.000 --> 0:13:50.960 I ain't gonna lie though you ain't bullshit And though 0:13:51.440 --> 0:13:54.320 I went to your catalog said, damn, can you miss 0:13:54.480 --> 0:13:59.600 we've been moving? Can you something you don't work please Jesus, 0:13:59.640 --> 0:14:02.680 can you be you moving? Man? Man, I'm like, damn 0:14:02.800 --> 0:14:05.400 after then at that and you know, um, what's the 0:14:05.440 --> 0:14:07.600 record with Jeremy It was the name of You Love 0:14:08.160 --> 0:14:11.280 You Love shout out to the boy jam. Whenever I 0:14:11.280 --> 0:14:13.280 feel like my my wife is getting a little mad 0:14:13.280 --> 0:14:16.280 at me, I'm like, huh I put that on. Yeah, 0:14:16.559 --> 0:14:20.400 I'm like, I only want you. That's no, that's what 0:14:20.400 --> 0:14:28.880 it's flaying. Thank you for you so put out for 0:14:28.880 --> 0:14:31.320 real versus who who? I don't know that I like 0:14:31.400 --> 0:14:33.400 you and dream like that. I like you and dream 0:14:33.600 --> 0:14:38.720 somebody saying me and Trey one time? Yes a good No, 0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:43.120 I think that dose. I'm with whatever who smoke, let's go. 0:14:43.600 --> 0:14:45.840 And if Chris Brown don't do it, I think you 0:14:45.960 --> 0:14:48.920 and Chris I think I think you gotta be against them, 0:14:48.920 --> 0:14:50.760 the real R and B guys like these people you 0:14:50.880 --> 0:14:54.080 name it. Because now it's a performance. Now it's just 0:14:54.160 --> 0:14:58.120 not just it's just not just play. Yeah, before it 0:14:58.200 --> 0:15:02.400 was remember Chris, me, Chris and USh altogether. That would 0:15:02.400 --> 0:15:04.880 be good. That would did a crazy concert. Did you 0:15:04.920 --> 0:15:09.080 see um the Marion? I was there, I was I 0:15:09.120 --> 0:15:11.480 was in the house. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you heard my 0:15:11.480 --> 0:15:19.720 boy ray Jack listen. Rey Ja is a marketing genius. Okay, 0:15:20.360 --> 0:15:23.520 bad mad at the film Hip Hope with him The 0:15:23.520 --> 0:15:25.840 next day he was acting like it wasn't bother with 0:15:29.080 --> 0:15:36.560 ke freaking because Yo, what the funk were you doing? 0:15:36.640 --> 0:15:40.400 Ray Jack? I kill you that. But as a vocalist, 0:15:41.120 --> 0:15:51.920 what did he do wrong? Um? Okay um everybody. So 0:15:52.000 --> 0:15:54.040 as a singer, you're gonna have good days, you're gonna 0:15:54.040 --> 0:15:56.120 have bad days, and you have to take care of 0:15:56.160 --> 0:15:58.320 your instrument, you know what I'm saying. So if you 0:15:58.440 --> 0:16:01.280 thinking and smoking and and you know, going wild and 0:16:01.320 --> 0:16:03.440 then grab the mic and get on stage, you're probably 0:16:03.440 --> 0:16:05.440 not gonna sound your best. It's just the reality of it. 0:16:05.680 --> 0:16:07.280 So I don't know what. I don't know what what 0:16:07.400 --> 0:16:09.800 Ray was doing prior to get on stage, but it 0:16:10.840 --> 0:16:13.960 was it was not taking care of the situation, you know, 0:16:14.080 --> 0:16:16.440 And and it's it's all good. It happens. Happens. I 0:16:16.480 --> 0:16:18.800 don't have some bad ones. I don't have some Yeah, man, 0:16:19.360 --> 0:16:21.720 he was off beat. It was off key. It happens. 0:16:21.960 --> 0:16:25.120 I don't never beat off key. I definitely had some 0:16:25.120 --> 0:16:27.280 some questions for somebody that don't know what was off 0:16:27.360 --> 0:16:31.200 key and off beat? Yeah, off key is if the 0:16:31.360 --> 0:16:33.160 if the key, if the key of the song is 0:16:33.160 --> 0:16:34.800 is here and you're singing over here, didn't you have 0:16:34.880 --> 0:16:37.800 your off key? Yeah? And that happens. That happens off 0:16:37.880 --> 0:16:40.640 beat is when you can't catch the the beat of 0:16:40.720 --> 0:16:43.480 the record. You know. What I'm saying is that that 0:16:43.480 --> 0:16:46.680 clap that goes everywhere but where everyone else is clapping 0:16:46.680 --> 0:16:50.160 at all, if everybody's here in your right. So you 0:16:50.280 --> 0:16:54.240 had some off key, yes, just never been off because 0:16:54.280 --> 0:16:56.480 your souls ain't gonna let you do. So, will not 0:16:56.520 --> 0:16:58.960 allow me to be off beat? And let it happened? Yes, 0:16:59.600 --> 0:17:04.159 my friend would let me be off meul with me 0:17:04.240 --> 0:17:09.640 like you. You really need friends. Yeah, you know sometimes 0:17:09.640 --> 0:17:13.840 you see. But you made the kind of slightly off 0:17:13.920 --> 0:17:18.560 beat thing fly like you made like you made you 0:17:18.600 --> 0:17:21.240 made that the thing. Okay, became a style. Okay. Now 0:17:22.800 --> 0:17:25.760 I'm saying, I'm feelings. You're trying to get your flowers. 0:17:25.760 --> 0:17:30.280 Baby doesn't look on them. But let's get you show 0:17:30.359 --> 0:17:33.400 every better. When I'm over there to him, I'm did 0:17:33.520 --> 0:17:37.040 we got good energy going on in here? God? Did 0:17:37.040 --> 0:17:39.159 I ask you? Are you smoking? Yeah? Man, let's go. 0:17:39.280 --> 0:17:41.840 That's a smoke chap right there, that's in your local 0:17:41.840 --> 0:17:45.360 dispensary in the California. Wait wait wait yeah, and it's 0:17:45.480 --> 0:17:48.200 organic paper, so it's no tobacco, you know what I mean? 0:17:48.560 --> 0:17:55.520 God damnit, we got you. It's smokers. Now did you 0:17:55.600 --> 0:17:57.840 did you? Did you hear? Tank came on here and 0:17:57.880 --> 0:18:02.240 take sad He said, he said that black love it's 0:18:02.320 --> 0:18:06.600 more threatened than than black violence. Like they accept more 0:18:06.680 --> 0:18:10.199 black violence than they do black love. They said that 0:18:10.240 --> 0:18:12.880 black love's a threat. I thought that was very That's 0:18:12.920 --> 0:18:14.960 really I feel like. I feel like because you think 0:18:14.960 --> 0:18:17.560 about it, if we if we as black people was 0:18:17.640 --> 0:18:20.280 to ever was to ever at any point really come together, 0:18:21.320 --> 0:18:23.119 Come on, man, ain't it ain't nothing that we couldn't 0:18:23.280 --> 0:18:25.040 take over it and a' nothing that we couldn't accomplish it. 0:18:25.040 --> 0:18:27.000 The ain't nothing that we couldn't we we would run 0:18:27.000 --> 0:18:29.760 this if we ever decided to come together. But you know, 0:18:29.800 --> 0:18:31.640 we were crabs in the barrel we do that thing. 0:18:32.280 --> 0:18:34.960 It's unfortunate. I kind of I kind of I need. 0:18:35.000 --> 0:18:36.600 I need my folks to get to get their life 0:18:36.640 --> 0:18:39.080 together on that because it's like any city you go 0:18:39.160 --> 0:18:40.800 to in the world is trying to sound you know 0:18:40.800 --> 0:18:43.159 what I'm saying. They go to where they go the 0:18:44.119 --> 0:18:46.360 literal italy. You know what I'm saying, Like every other 0:18:46.440 --> 0:18:49.240 race doesn't, but us, it's just us. We need a 0:18:49.280 --> 0:18:51.640 little black town. But why not maybe that's the word, 0:18:51.720 --> 0:18:56.400 but maybe that little black we could find creative name. 0:18:56.480 --> 0:18:59.600 But I'm saying just the fact that they'll go somewhere, 0:19:00.000 --> 0:19:01.760 figure out how to get money and then tell their 0:19:01.800 --> 0:19:04.440 people and then they people come and then everybody's getting money. 0:19:04.520 --> 0:19:07.639 Like we don't do that. That's that's that's sad. You 0:19:07.640 --> 0:19:09.400 know what's sucked up when we do it. They call 0:19:09.440 --> 0:19:16.440 it rico. Wow, jeez, why Yeah, that wasn't a joke. 0:19:16.600 --> 0:19:19.240 It wasn't. I mean, it cut like one. But I 0:19:19.440 --> 0:19:22.240 just think about it was trying to do that. He 0:19:22.280 --> 0:19:24.919 was trying to put his people on and they actually 0:19:25.000 --> 0:19:27.480 flipped that on him to make that a bad thing. 0:19:27.600 --> 0:19:30.320 So maybe like sometimes damn if you do damn people don't. 0:19:30.320 --> 0:19:32.199 But listen, I mean, the odds is always against us. 0:19:32.240 --> 0:19:34.200 That ain't never not been true. However, if it was 0:19:34.240 --> 0:19:36.359 impossible for us to get there, there would be no 0:19:36.440 --> 0:19:39.520 black billionaires. There would be there. We wouldn't we wouldn't 0:19:39.520 --> 0:19:41.639 be in there if it wasn't possible possible for us 0:19:41.640 --> 0:19:43.680 to get in there. So it's about once we get 0:19:43.720 --> 0:19:46.000 in there, what we do when we're in there, that's 0:19:46.000 --> 0:19:48.840 what that's what's importing. Well, Neo, our show is about 0:19:48.840 --> 0:19:51.360 giving people the flowers. So we want to personally give 0:19:51.400 --> 0:19:53.720 you your flowers. You got, we got them ready, want 0:19:53.720 --> 0:19:56.200 to personal to give your flowers. You know what I'm saying, 0:19:56.880 --> 0:20:05.360 you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. 0:20:05.520 --> 0:20:07.680 Snoop Dogg said it's better than when the Grammy because 0:20:07.680 --> 0:20:09.760 it's from his people. But you got Graham, come on now, 0:20:09.880 --> 0:20:14.480 so it might not be better for you now that 0:20:14.560 --> 0:20:16.760 you got Yeah, you know they you know they took 0:20:16.840 --> 0:20:18.440 time when they put your name on it. That's right, 0:20:18.560 --> 0:20:22.920 that's right. Somebody sat there life, that's right, goddamn it straight. 0:20:23.040 --> 0:20:29.159 That's why I appreciate it. Man. So the more to 0:20:29.200 --> 0:20:32.520 gram me have to wait to put this put to it. 0:20:32.880 --> 0:20:35.560 But um so what are you like more making the 0:20:35.600 --> 0:20:39.000 record or performing the record? Making the record straight away 0:20:39.160 --> 0:20:41.479 straight away? Um so, I'm forty two years old at 0:20:41.480 --> 0:20:44.320 this point, right, Uh, the knees don't be knee and 0:20:44.359 --> 0:20:46.720 like that. You keep it all the way with perform 0:20:47.160 --> 0:20:49.720 even I love to perform. I love you know just 0:20:49.760 --> 0:20:52.399 that that energy exchange that happens between the artists and 0:20:52.600 --> 0:20:57.280 the crowd. But I can write. If my knees decided 0:20:57.320 --> 0:20:58.960 to stop working on Mark, I can still write a song, 0:20:59.040 --> 0:21:00.840 you know what I'm saying. So it's always going to 0:21:00.920 --> 0:21:04.400 be the writing for me, which is how you started. Yeah, Yeah, 0:21:04.400 --> 0:21:06.640 that was my first love. That was my first big break, 0:21:06.720 --> 0:21:08.840 you know what I'm saying. I got success as a 0:21:08.840 --> 0:21:10.600 writer before I got success as an artist. What was 0:21:10.600 --> 0:21:13.399 your first big break? Mario's You Should Let Me Love You? 0:21:14.400 --> 0:21:16.560 That was the first one. Yes, damn, I don't counting 0:21:16.560 --> 0:21:24.160 your pockets. Yeah, man, that got your deal. That got 0:21:24.200 --> 0:21:26.560 you your deal kind of kind of. I got my 0:21:26.640 --> 0:21:29.440 deal somewhat by accident. I mean I don't I don't 0:21:29.440 --> 0:21:32.159 believe an accident. Don't believe coincidences. All I know is 0:21:32.200 --> 0:21:34.280 we didn't walk into the Deaf Gym building that day 0:21:34.600 --> 0:21:36.560 with the hopes of leaving what the record did? We 0:21:36.600 --> 0:21:39.880 went in there that day so that my homeboy Sauce UH, 0:21:40.080 --> 0:21:43.600 amazing producer UH used to be the group something for 0:21:43.640 --> 0:21:46.399 the people like Early nine, you remember them. So we 0:21:46.440 --> 0:21:48.480 went to Deaf Jam that day so that he could 0:21:48.520 --> 0:21:51.760 reunite with an old friend of his from high school. Uh, 0:21:52.000 --> 0:21:54.159 little known to me at the time. That friend was 0:21:54.240 --> 0:21:56.920 Tina David at the time, was you know, David was 0:21:56.960 --> 0:22:03.280 a legend. David cover you and Chris. Yeah, absolutely absolutely. 0:22:03.400 --> 0:22:04.840 We went up there so that they could, you know, 0:22:04.960 --> 0:22:06.520 get there, you're not in it feels so good on 0:22:07.080 --> 0:22:09.080 um And by the time we left the building, I 0:22:09.119 --> 0:22:11.920 had performed for l. A. Reid and the whole nine 0:22:11.960 --> 0:22:14.399 and then yeah, we left for the record there, not 0:22:14.560 --> 0:22:16.040 for the record there. It was cool, It was cool. 0:22:16.160 --> 0:22:17.560 It was weird because it's like, you know, it's the 0:22:17.560 --> 0:22:19.359 whole situation was like you're looking for your keys. You 0:22:19.359 --> 0:22:20.959 can't find the damn keys to flip the whole house 0:22:20.960 --> 0:22:22.359 and down looking for these keys. You said, you know what, 0:22:22.400 --> 0:22:24.159 to hell with it, I'll find another way to get there. 0:22:24.160 --> 0:22:26.879 And then the ship's falling a lap. That's what it was. 0:22:27.200 --> 0:22:30.879 That's what it was because I so many different times 0:22:30.880 --> 0:22:33.080 that we, you know, trying to get a deal talking 0:22:33.080 --> 0:22:35.440 to this rep. That rep. Center songs over here, this, 0:22:35.440 --> 0:22:37.640 this is and everything is thanks for no thanks all right? Cool? 0:22:37.920 --> 0:22:39.840 So I said, you know what, I'm just right. It 0:22:39.880 --> 0:22:41.480 would just be right. It's my money over here anyway, 0:22:41.480 --> 0:22:43.880 I just write so we went and we went over there. 0:22:44.280 --> 0:22:45.560 I mean, we was in New York because we were 0:22:45.560 --> 0:22:47.359 shopping music around. We didn't go to Damn Jam on 0:22:47.440 --> 0:22:49.440 purpose because we had already went like two days prior. 0:22:50.040 --> 0:22:51.760 So on the way back to the hotel, he's like, yo, 0:22:51.880 --> 0:22:53.679 let me stop here quick and say, what's uping at home? Girl? 0:22:53.680 --> 0:22:56.359 I ain't seen it forever? All right? Cool? So you 0:22:56.400 --> 0:22:59.000 know they're doing that. I'm sitting in the corner waiting. Uh. 0:22:59.040 --> 0:23:02.320 He starts playing her some the music that. Yeah. So 0:23:02.400 --> 0:23:04.640 she looked at me. She goes, your does your music? Yeah? 0:23:04.680 --> 0:23:07.560 You wrote this? Yeah that you're singing too? Yeah? Can 0:23:07.600 --> 0:23:11.200 you dance a little bit? Yeah, Okay, let's turn the 0:23:11.280 --> 0:23:14.280 music up. She said, go for it. I'm like, what, no, 0:23:14.400 --> 0:23:17.040 mind you again. I'm just I'm well, I'm hungry, Like, 0:23:17.480 --> 0:23:19.400 can y'all pick this up so we can go eat 0:23:19.480 --> 0:23:25.280 Damn I'm hung already go I'm like, all right, y'all 0:23:25.440 --> 0:23:29.720 know in in Tina Davis's office. Yeah, so she turns 0:23:29.760 --> 0:23:31.760 your music up and she says back, like, go for it, 0:23:32.480 --> 0:23:35.720 stone face go oh ship, Well, I'm not gonna challenge me. 0:23:35.760 --> 0:23:38.200 So I got up. I'm performed before the whole not again, 0:23:38.280 --> 0:23:40.720 no response whatsoever. So I'm like, all right, this is 0:23:40.760 --> 0:23:42.520 a waste of time. As soon as I got finished, 0:23:42.520 --> 0:23:46.439 she said, hey, yeah, Mr Reed, I think I got 0:23:46.480 --> 0:23:50.280 somebody you should beat. And the rest of his root 0:23:50.280 --> 0:23:56.080 from there, the rest is history. Accidentally got a record 0:23:56.080 --> 0:23:59.719 there in the midst of you actively trying to shop 0:24:00.160 --> 0:24:02.200 this moment, you wasn't trying to shut not at all, 0:24:02.880 --> 0:24:06.600 not at all. And Read and l a Read he 0:24:06.680 --> 0:24:09.440 doesn't put on baby face all this Now? Is this 0:24:09.520 --> 0:24:11.159 surreal for you? Do you know who? L A Read? Is? 0:24:11.720 --> 0:24:14.040 Absolutely a matter of fact. When she got off the phone, 0:24:14.080 --> 0:24:19.840 I said, you said, Mr Read, that's that's that's She's like, yeah, yeah, 0:24:20.080 --> 0:24:23.480 we're about to go meet him right now. Okay cool. 0:24:23.760 --> 0:24:29.439 So yeah it was. It was definitely a surreal situation. Um, 0:24:29.600 --> 0:24:32.199 you got in there, he says his first words to me, 0:24:32.200 --> 0:24:34.440 and so you're the next big thing. Huh, Like funk, 0:24:34.480 --> 0:24:36.879 what the fund is happening right now? Because the selling 0:24:36.920 --> 0:24:39.440 you or something else. So I performed for him, him 0:24:39.440 --> 0:24:41.959 and his tastemakers. It's him and like like nine other 0:24:42.000 --> 0:24:44.439 people in the room. Everybody. I feel like the Chinese 0:24:44.480 --> 0:24:47.040 woman was in there. There was definitely a Chinese woman 0:24:47.080 --> 0:24:49.840 in there. You don't come about Yeah, you know what 0:24:49.840 --> 0:24:54.560 I'm talking about, Karen Karen kwak, God damn it. So 0:24:55.000 --> 0:24:57.560 the performer, performer, performer, I get done. He goes, all right, 0:24:57.600 --> 0:24:59.040 thank you very much. Can I talk to about people? 0:24:59.320 --> 0:25:02.240 Step outside. We sat outside in the lobby of his 0:25:02.440 --> 0:25:05.080 of his office for like an hour, like a solid hour, 0:25:05.160 --> 0:25:06.560 to the point I turned this offs like yeah, man, 0:25:06.600 --> 0:25:09.320 let's just go. Clearly they ain't interested. It wouldn't be 0:25:09.359 --> 0:25:11.719 taking this long. Let's just go. So as we're leaving, 0:25:12.480 --> 0:25:14.320 somebody pokes their head out the wind like, hey, um, 0:25:14.480 --> 0:25:17.520 what is your lawyer information? Because Mystery wants to give 0:25:17.520 --> 0:25:20.680 you a record deal? And it was it was like 0:25:20.800 --> 0:25:24.920 a I'm trying to find the words to explain how 0:25:26.520 --> 0:25:28.359 I was there, but I wasn't there, you know what 0:25:28.440 --> 0:25:30.560 I mean. It's like, this is this is not really 0:25:30.640 --> 0:25:32.560 this can't be really happening. You know how hard, how 0:25:32.680 --> 0:25:34.680 long we've been trying to make this happen, and and 0:25:34.800 --> 0:25:37.120 just on the on the humbug it happens. This can't 0:25:37.160 --> 0:25:38.920 be real now I'm gonna wake up in a minute. 0:25:39.240 --> 0:25:43.400 But yeah, it was. It was a beautiful situation. Man, 0:25:43.480 --> 0:25:50.399 what's up you ain't got quick time, so I'm ready. Okay, 0:25:50.640 --> 0:25:53.200 cool cool, cool cool, Holy mo, get on my notes, 0:25:53.880 --> 0:25:58.120 Let me go on my notes. Okay, yes, yes, yes, 0:25:58.240 --> 0:26:01.440 yes yes. So what are the writers? Were you inspired 0:26:01.480 --> 0:26:05.200 by that? Other song writers that I was inspired or 0:26:05.240 --> 0:26:07.600 any artists that you're inspired by? Um, well, you know 0:26:07.680 --> 0:26:09.880 what it's It's actually funny in that moment when I'm 0:26:09.920 --> 0:26:12.960 in Tina David's office and uh, she's asking me about 0:26:13.000 --> 0:26:15.359 the music I got finished performing. He was waiting to 0:26:15.400 --> 0:26:17.240 go in l A's office, and she said to me, 0:26:17.640 --> 0:26:19.480 is there any artists out there that kind of like 0:26:19.600 --> 0:26:21.440 keeps you on your toes? You know what I'm saying, 0:26:21.440 --> 0:26:23.159 somebody that you always check them for it just to 0:26:23.400 --> 0:26:25.200 you know, keeps you on your toes. And the second 0:26:25.240 --> 0:26:28.440 she said that, usher's yeah, video came on. Yeah that 0:26:28.520 --> 0:26:30.919 dude right there. She's like, interesting, I'm about to put 0:26:30.960 --> 0:26:33.359 you in front of the man and made him shit. 0:26:34.000 --> 0:26:36.840 It was it was yeah, it was right moment. Yeah, 0:26:37.960 --> 0:26:42.320 Holy moli GUACAMOLEI man, this is some good ship. This 0:26:42.480 --> 0:26:45.280 is some good ship, all right? Um play hard with 0:26:45.400 --> 0:26:48.600 David Gutta at a calm. Yeah. I don't know how 0:26:48.600 --> 0:26:52.199 to pronounce this ship. How how did how did they 0:26:52.240 --> 0:26:54.480 call you? How who called you? What was happening? How 0:26:54.520 --> 0:26:57.639 did you so? I? Um I did something with David 0:26:57.640 --> 0:27:01.600 Ghetto already and then um so okay, so the funny thing, 0:27:02.440 --> 0:27:04.600 damn can I even say this? Yeah? The music is 0:27:04.680 --> 0:27:08.320 all right? So that hook that work hard, play hard? 0:27:08.960 --> 0:27:12.200 That was supposed to be uh for the remix to 0:27:12.600 --> 0:27:17.159 with Wiz Khalifa's uh the WIRs Khalifa joint? Which one? 0:27:17.160 --> 0:27:19.560 He got a lot of joints. The wonder where the 0:27:19.600 --> 0:27:21.280 one way he says something about work hard, play hard 0:27:21.320 --> 0:27:24.280 on which one it would the record he probably don't 0:27:24.280 --> 0:27:29.639 even remember. He got to huh, you've been sucking up 0:27:29.680 --> 0:27:40.240 all down you ain't been well. It wasn't that record, 0:27:40.280 --> 0:27:42.359 but it was supposed to be the remix to to 0:27:42.560 --> 0:27:46.080 wis Wis Kalifa joint, and Uh I finished it and 0:27:46.200 --> 0:27:48.080 David get David was like, no, this is this is 0:27:48.160 --> 0:27:49.960 this is bigger than the remix. This is this is 0:27:50.000 --> 0:27:52.640 a record. So then he put uh put a con 0:27:52.720 --> 0:27:54.600 on it akin been a friend for a long time, 0:27:54.680 --> 0:27:57.320 you know, it's just the hommy Yeah, man, it was 0:27:57.400 --> 0:28:00.200 it was It was easy. David Gjenna is one of 0:28:00.280 --> 0:28:04.200 them cats. That before he became David Getta. He's just 0:28:04.280 --> 0:28:05.959 he's just a music dude. You know. Some of these 0:28:06.000 --> 0:28:08.159 cats that do it clearly for for the money and 0:28:08.240 --> 0:28:09.760 for the recognition of it. David ghett to do it 0:28:09.800 --> 0:28:11.960 because he loved music, you know. And and that's that 0:28:12.080 --> 0:28:16.120 was our initial connection. We've been cool ever since. Trying 0:28:16.119 --> 0:28:25.280 to sell you properly in Africa. He didn't, Yeah, but 0:28:25.400 --> 0:28:26.840 he didn't. He didn't do it like I'm trying to 0:28:26.920 --> 0:28:28.440 sell you something. He was like, he was like, this 0:28:28.560 --> 0:28:30.640 is cool, right, yeah, yeah, you should be a part 0:28:30.640 --> 0:28:36.960 of the Yea, he got me. What's the price? Man? 0:28:37.119 --> 0:28:41.000 You're going? Man? All right, I just want to say that. Man, 0:28:41.000 --> 0:28:43.880 I gotta gon do it Africa. That's just hard. That's 0:28:43.880 --> 0:28:49.960 just even if Yeah yeah Africa. Man, he's still building 0:28:50.040 --> 0:28:55.840 Wakando over there. Yea, I might ride. Oh man, Man, 0:28:55.880 --> 0:28:57.600 We've got a quick time of slim. Okay, this is 0:28:57.640 --> 0:28:59.560 a game. It's a game played with all the guests. 0:28:59.600 --> 0:29:02.400 All right, so we ask you do you are a 0:29:02.720 --> 0:29:05.840 b choice if you be politically to conrect and do 0:29:05.880 --> 0:29:09.720 you wanna uh not please the fifth? The fifth, then 0:29:09.720 --> 0:29:12.000 you gotta take a shot both and if you say 0:29:12.080 --> 0:29:15.280 neither you take a shot. But so it's pretty pretty 0:29:15.360 --> 0:29:16.880 much FO you want to take, you want to stick 0:29:16.920 --> 0:29:20.680 with the rock, We take the shots. We don't leave 0:29:20.680 --> 0:29:24.160 you the same. I'm gonna drink this Japanese whiskey. I 0:29:24.200 --> 0:29:27.880 mean streaming Japanese deadly. Y'all know what I'm saying. You 0:29:27.920 --> 0:29:31.520 know what I'm saying. You know. Yeah, I'm from Japan, 0:29:31.680 --> 0:29:39.880 you know, by the way. But yeah, smoke, Okay, I'm 0:29:39.920 --> 0:29:45.680 gonna get mine, Juanna, I'm gonna get mine ready in 0:29:45.760 --> 0:29:48.520 the building. You're ready? Yeah? Why do I feel like 0:29:48.560 --> 0:29:50.960 you're about to give me in trouble? No? No, no, 0:29:52.320 --> 0:29:53.840 I mean you can't play and safe. We just drink 0:29:53.880 --> 0:29:58.560 a lot. Yeah, you want to go first? You all right? 0:29:58.640 --> 0:30:01.320 Got it? Oh? This is good. It's a good you're 0:30:01.360 --> 0:30:09.000 drinking off top. Uh, Michael Jackson or Prince, I don't 0:30:09.360 --> 0:30:16.960 get my shot ready? Uh just take the shot, damn shot? 0:30:18.360 --> 0:30:25.080 What I got? Yeah? Leave him the bottom. Just kind 0:30:25.080 --> 0:30:31.160 of question a moment. Okay, you're drinking. Look that was 0:30:31.240 --> 0:30:34.960 either don't have to you can take half of that. 0:30:35.280 --> 0:30:45.880 You can take half. You might as well get your 0:30:46.080 --> 0:30:49.000 shot ready. You definitely don't have to pull that heaven 0:30:49.000 --> 0:30:51.720 because you're definitely you're not gonna do that. You definitely 0:30:51.880 --> 0:30:55.320 you definitely. UM have to be politically correct on this one. 0:30:55.400 --> 0:31:00.959 All right, let's go Beyonce or just take this up. 0:31:01.400 --> 0:31:06.239 Let take that off. Let me just hold o my god. Okay, wait, 0:31:06.280 --> 0:31:10.520 what's what's what's the question? Exactly? Whatever? It is? It 0:31:10.720 --> 0:31:17.280 musically being reality period your mind? Yeah, you just take 0:31:17.360 --> 0:31:23.440 literally correct. I can't. Yeah, I can't. I can Okay, 0:31:23.600 --> 0:31:27.720 don't you just do Yeah? Yeah, you gotta go crazy 0:31:28.320 --> 0:31:31.760 solottle kid. I feel like this game is fixed. Let 0:31:31.760 --> 0:31:36.959 me just say that I've been set up. Yes you have, sir. 0:31:38.560 --> 0:31:40.120 This is one I don't know, but it could go 0:31:40.240 --> 0:31:48.800 either way. Tupac or dmx A Tupac, Alicia Keys or 0:31:48.960 --> 0:31:59.840 Kadu sh uh uh okay note against Alicia. I love 0:31:59.840 --> 0:32:01.560 you to death. I love you. Don't don't don't think 0:32:01.600 --> 0:32:04.320 I'm hey, did you did you? Did you support Erica 0:32:04.360 --> 0:32:08.800 bardus incense? I did not. I don't think no married man, 0:32:08.920 --> 0:32:13.200 you have pussy instance, my wife loves you too. But 0:32:14.440 --> 0:32:16.560 like that, I don't even act likely notable. But the 0:32:16.560 --> 0:32:21.440 product is I did. I did, But because I think 0:32:21.480 --> 0:32:26.520 that's women empowerment. I believe in our house to smell 0:32:26.600 --> 0:32:30.080 like Erica. But I don't think so, sir, I don't 0:32:30.120 --> 0:32:35.440 think I think that's accurate. Uh, ice cube or iced tea, mhm, 0:32:40.040 --> 0:32:41.720 all of them. Respect for ice Cube, but I'm gonna 0:32:41.760 --> 0:32:43.560 say ice because he let me see call go booty 0:32:43.600 --> 0:32:48.760 one time. I'm sorry, said, what did you say, doesn't 0:32:49.160 --> 0:32:52.320 mean squeeze called booty ones like? Respectfully? Yes it was, 0:32:52.640 --> 0:32:55.240 it was respectfully. It was a Halloween party, right, And 0:32:55.320 --> 0:32:57.560 how does this work? You have grappy, wife's asked, I 0:32:57.640 --> 0:32:59.040 literally walked up to your mind. I had had a 0:32:59.080 --> 0:33:00.800 couple of drinks at this point. I walked up to 0:33:00.920 --> 0:33:03.680 him and I said, because she had on like she has. 0:33:05.040 --> 0:33:06.400 So I walked up to him and I was like, bro, 0:33:06.760 --> 0:33:10.920 all due respect, h I've wanted to squeeze Coco's asked 0:33:10.920 --> 0:33:12.440 for a really long time. And he said, you know what, 0:33:12.560 --> 0:33:14.120 and I'm just kind of pimp to let you do it. 0:33:15.520 --> 0:33:18.120 And he called over and he whispered something in her ear, 0:33:18.560 --> 0:33:20.200 and she looked at him and smiled, and it looked 0:33:20.240 --> 0:33:21.960 at me and smiled and turned around and bent the 0:33:22.040 --> 0:33:24.240 thing over and I grabbed as much of a handful 0:33:24.320 --> 0:33:28.880 as I could. He gave me a pound and we 0:33:28.960 --> 0:33:30.880 finished and we drinking hung out for its to night. 0:33:30.960 --> 0:33:34.160 That was that. I'm trying to figure out who's more 0:33:34.240 --> 0:33:38.760 gainst in the situation, him or cocoa or is it 0:33:38.920 --> 0:33:42.560 all It might just be a I'm taking a shot 0:33:42.600 --> 0:33:46.000 for that. I'm sorry that the shot shut up. My 0:33:46.080 --> 0:33:54.200 friend shot right now outside just because of that. That was. 0:33:54.840 --> 0:33:57.920 That was a moment for me. He got there, a 0:33:58.120 --> 0:34:03.440 moment weized all of us. He threw me off with 0:34:03.520 --> 0:34:05.560 that one. You got. I ain't never been I'm not 0:34:05.760 --> 0:34:08.319 able to say something on my show like I'm saying 0:34:08.360 --> 0:34:11.600 here like this is good. Okay, you know what I think. 0:34:11.760 --> 0:34:13.919 I think he knew that I ain't posed no threat 0:34:14.520 --> 0:34:16.800 met him on adition that it was cool. It was 0:34:16.840 --> 0:34:19.879 a no no, we understand. And that thing is very soft. 0:34:23.120 --> 0:34:28.840 Chris Brown or Usher Ussher only because Chris Brown is 0:34:28.880 --> 0:34:31.279 talented as hell, but Usher, I grew up Usher. You 0:34:31.320 --> 0:34:33.440 know what I'm saying, Like, that's Ushers part of the 0:34:33.520 --> 0:34:35.719 reason that Neo exists. I'm keep it all the shop 0:34:35.840 --> 0:34:44.560 like that's Jackson five or new addition, damn uh, new addition, 0:34:45.520 --> 0:34:47.920 new edition. Because my I was I was a fan 0:34:48.000 --> 0:34:49.360 of the Jackson five, but I was more of a 0:34:49.440 --> 0:34:51.600 fan of Mike than what Michael was doing as opposed 0:34:51.640 --> 0:34:54.680 to the whole Jackson five situations. New addition. The first 0:34:55.040 --> 0:34:56.840 first concert I even went to in life was a 0:34:56.880 --> 0:35:00.800 new edition. It was a coming home concert. Well you 0:35:00.840 --> 0:35:03.040 know everybody like BBD got a section, Bobby Brown got 0:35:03.120 --> 0:35:05.279 a section, Rob Tredsman got a section, and they all 0:35:05.360 --> 0:35:07.120 came back that they broke up. This is after they 0:35:07.120 --> 0:35:11.120 broke up. Agamea first concert ever in life, and they 0:35:11.160 --> 0:35:14.080 came out in these red suits with this embroidered tiger 0:35:14.160 --> 0:35:16.120 on the joint and these these red baller caps. And 0:35:16.160 --> 0:35:19.879 I'm like, yo, one day, one day, like if you saw, 0:35:20.000 --> 0:35:22.000 if you saw me a lovers and friends, that whole 0:35:22.040 --> 0:35:29.040 red ensemble that was inspired by the addition. H Jeremiah, 0:35:29.200 --> 0:35:31.600 he got quiet because or trade songs on my bad 0:35:33.640 --> 0:35:39.799 Jeremiah Trade songs, Uh, Jeremiah much love of trade song, 0:35:39.920 --> 0:35:43.880 But jeremiahs is a Jeremiah is a is a. I 0:35:43.960 --> 0:35:45.960 look at Jeremy Moore as a writer and a musician 0:35:46.000 --> 0:35:47.600 than an artist, you know what I'm saying, Like like, 0:35:47.640 --> 0:35:49.319 don't get me on his art His artistry is dope, 0:35:49.320 --> 0:35:52.200 his songs is dope. But I have the respect for 0:35:52.280 --> 0:35:54.800 that man, for the way that he makes music and 0:35:54.840 --> 0:35:57.320 the music that he the music that he makes. Jeremah 0:35:57.440 --> 0:35:59.480 Jeremiah the big up Jeremond. I don't think I forgot 0:35:59.600 --> 0:36:02.640 forgot bro. He looked out for me when I needed 0:36:02.719 --> 0:36:05.640 them when I'm very thankful for that. When when the 0:36:05.719 --> 0:36:08.400 you love record. So I'm sending the studio with a man, 0:36:08.560 --> 0:36:10.839 rock star, and we're just having a random conversation about 0:36:10.840 --> 0:36:13.080 people that I haven't worked withducing rock star, rock Star, 0:36:13.400 --> 0:36:16.200 shout out the boy rock star. So we're just talking 0:36:16.200 --> 0:36:18.279 about people that I've never worked with. To get my 0:36:18.360 --> 0:36:26.359 light mynd like that I would, but rock star sending 0:36:26.400 --> 0:36:28.480 the studio, rock started talking about people ain't working with 0:36:28.600 --> 0:36:32.640 yet Jeremie's name popped up. He was like, work, hold on, hey, 0:36:32.960 --> 0:36:35.320 pull up. Nick pulled up. He pulled up with with 0:36:35.440 --> 0:36:38.360 the bag he had, putting me like seven records, seven 0:36:38.400 --> 0:36:41.680 amazing records. I'm like, listen as my pride won't let 0:36:41.719 --> 0:36:43.960 me pick more than one because because I'm looking, I'm 0:36:44.000 --> 0:36:46.439 listening to these records like, damn, why ain't thinking that? Damn? 0:36:46.520 --> 0:36:49.920 I don't know how many of crazy that lyric it was. 0:36:50.000 --> 0:36:51.680 It was one of those moments. So I picked the 0:36:51.719 --> 0:36:54.239 one that I felt safe with and that was the 0:36:54.520 --> 0:36:57.840 Love Record And yeah, man, rest history. Shout out to 0:36:57.840 --> 0:37:02.200 the boy Jereminda. She already got my shot ready, Yeah, 0:37:02.560 --> 0:37:05.759 because I don't think I could choose in this one. 0:37:06.480 --> 0:37:12.600 Jay z or Nas got my shot ready set up. 0:37:13.880 --> 0:37:20.919 Look at what solo? This is not cool. It's not cool. 0:37:21.120 --> 0:37:24.640 Has anybody ever been carried out of this show? Afterwards? 0:37:25.280 --> 0:37:28.600 Everyone survives afterwards? Is it's a little bit crazy afterwards. 0:37:28.680 --> 0:37:35.879 But okay, we've had some wild ones h that I mentioned. 0:37:35.880 --> 0:37:38.320 I'm not a shot taker that I mentioned that nobody is. 0:37:38.360 --> 0:37:40.400 We're just here. We just he we all side. We 0:37:40.480 --> 0:37:50.040 celebrated yo yo yo shuh The Dream or Ryan Leslie? Wow, Um, 0:37:51.920 --> 0:37:54.040 all right. I've always felt like they never got the 0:37:54.040 --> 0:37:57.120 flowers deserved, but I never got the recognition deserved. But 0:37:57.200 --> 0:38:00.040 I do it as a genius. Um. But from the 0:38:00.120 --> 0:38:02.680 standpoint of you know who took it and did and 0:38:02.760 --> 0:38:04.480 did what they were supposed to do with it for 0:38:04.560 --> 0:38:06.799 whatever reason, I gotta give it to the day Dream. 0:38:07.640 --> 0:38:09.880 Bryan Leslie is dope, dope as hell. We've act. We 0:38:09.880 --> 0:38:12.000 actually got records together that the world has never heard. 0:38:12.640 --> 0:38:16.239 But yeah, the Dream. Yeah, man, you know what, you 0:38:16.280 --> 0:38:18.800 know what's dope about the Dream? I okay, So I 0:38:18.920 --> 0:38:22.040 personally don't like the songs where it'd be like one 0:38:22.080 --> 0:38:24.120 word repeated over and over and over and over and 0:38:24.239 --> 0:38:27.680 fucking over again. That's just annoyed at me. But the Dream, 0:38:28.560 --> 0:38:30.480 for whatever reason, when he do it, it don't annoy me. 0:38:30.800 --> 0:38:33.040 Like when he doing that's I was like that, Yeah, 0:38:33.040 --> 0:38:35.200 all right, that's seventeen times you say that one word. 0:38:36.239 --> 0:38:38.839 But the ship is dope though, like I like, yo, 0:38:38.960 --> 0:38:41.479 I have respect for that dude because like I've tried 0:38:41.560 --> 0:38:43.279 that before, Like let me, let me see if I can. No, 0:38:43.480 --> 0:38:45.400 I don't like this ship. I'm annoyed by myself. I 0:38:45.440 --> 0:38:47.600 can't do it, but he should be working, So shout 0:38:47.640 --> 0:38:50.719 out to the Dream. It was dope. Tory Lanes or 0:38:50.760 --> 0:38:56.640 the Weekend, Uh, the weekend, the weekend Tory Lanes. I'm 0:38:56.640 --> 0:38:59.600 gonna lie Tory Lanes. It's cool, little dude, talented, a 0:38:59.600 --> 0:39:02.400 little dude, but the Weekend is a is a and 0:39:02.640 --> 0:39:04.439 that that thing is like an entity like I don't 0:39:04.440 --> 0:39:06.440 even know. I don't even know where to how to 0:39:06.520 --> 0:39:09.040 categorize him. He's something else. I agree with you everything 0:39:09.080 --> 0:39:10.759 something else. These things about that a hunted house that 0:39:11.040 --> 0:39:14.920 goddamn uh uh one of them damn amusement parks. What 0:39:15.120 --> 0:39:17.879 what R and B cat is doing that haunted house? Yeah, 0:39:18.080 --> 0:39:22.040 his own haunted house. Like it's different, different dudes and 0:39:22.080 --> 0:39:33.840 different dude Mario or Marian. Uh the set up question, No, No, 0:39:35.800 --> 0:39:41.080 I can make a distinction here. I'm gonna Mario. So 0:39:41.200 --> 0:39:44.279 I broke this down for somebody, uh during the BT 0:39:44.400 --> 0:39:46.640 weekend because everyone because of course everybody's asking me about 0:39:46.640 --> 0:39:52.880 the damn versus I don't. A performer, Mario will always 0:39:52.920 --> 0:39:57.920 have issue against a singer Mario because a singer Mario 0:39:58.520 --> 0:40:02.640 can get all everybody in the room with just his voice. 0:40:02.920 --> 0:40:05.959 He can literally stand in one spot and just sing 0:40:06.440 --> 0:40:10.160 and get the whole room. Whereas the performer Marian, he 0:40:10.239 --> 0:40:11.719 gott to do a double flipping land on his head 0:40:11.760 --> 0:40:14.160 and then turn around and split and eat some watermelon. 0:40:14.280 --> 0:40:18.960 That's There's so much that has to happen. Was a 0:40:18.960 --> 0:40:21.360 little uncoming. It was a little uncoming. It was I 0:40:21.480 --> 0:40:23.719 think I think that I think everyone It was a 0:40:23.760 --> 0:40:29.440 little uncoming. But but yeah, so I'm always gonna go 0:40:29.440 --> 0:40:31.600 away with a singer, you know, remind you I I 0:40:31.719 --> 0:40:34.399 dubbed myself a performer. I'm a performer that can sing, 0:40:35.160 --> 0:40:37.640 but I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I wouldn't go up against 0:40:37.719 --> 0:40:40.920 Mario in a battle, in a singing battle like nobody's 0:40:41.040 --> 0:40:44.200 doing that was doing that, that's what that dude does. No, 0:40:44.520 --> 0:40:48.319 that's not so shot. Marian and Mario, everybody, everybody knows 0:40:48.320 --> 0:40:59.759 who want that thing? S soso double xl uh. You 0:40:59.840 --> 0:41:03.080 know what? The source? The source? Because the source actually 0:41:03.120 --> 0:41:05.640 put me on a cover at one time. Yeah me 0:41:05.719 --> 0:41:09.040 and keeps your cold it's fire. Yeah, that was weird. 0:41:11.480 --> 0:41:13.680 I'm gonna get my shot ready for this next one. 0:41:15.000 --> 0:41:19.160 Fifty cents or jeezy damn, just get my shot ready. 0:41:22.320 --> 0:41:27.880 Get that pop got ready for both of them? I do, 0:41:28.160 --> 0:41:32.160 and they are both friends. Solo, can't you slottle slot 0:41:32.520 --> 0:41:41.480 good choice, get easier as you go. Yeah, it's getting 0:41:41.480 --> 0:41:45.080 easier right now. It's not Jermaine depris on pop daddy. 0:41:45.480 --> 0:41:54.399 Damn uh that's a shot. Damn the fucking set up. Damn, 0:41:56.160 --> 0:42:02.239 come on, come on, this is thank god. I ain't 0:42:02.280 --> 0:42:06.759 had nothing to do today different so I'm going to 0:42:06.840 --> 0:42:13.840 bed after Oh oh, just get the good one. This 0:42:14.000 --> 0:42:22.440 is my favorite major or independent independent. Wow comes, I'm 0:42:22.440 --> 0:42:28.480 not gonna you have debates over no. Speaking from personal experience, 0:42:28.600 --> 0:42:30.319 major label is dope when it's done the right way. 0:42:30.960 --> 0:42:33.560 But nowadays, how often is it done the right way? Right? 0:42:33.800 --> 0:42:35.080 You know what I mean? We we've got to a 0:42:35.120 --> 0:42:39.040 point where where all you really use a major label 0:42:39.080 --> 0:42:40.719 four is a bank. You know what I'm saying. It's 0:42:40.760 --> 0:42:42.400 it's it's money that you don't gotta pull out your 0:42:42.400 --> 0:42:44.759 own pocket. But as far as the legwork, as far 0:42:44.800 --> 0:42:46.960 as you know, all of that, that's that's that has 0:42:47.040 --> 0:42:49.759 to happen. Like castes that are doing it theirself, catch 0:42:49.800 --> 0:42:52.319 that are promoting themselves, cats is making records in their 0:42:52.400 --> 0:42:55.520 bathroom on Monday and dropping them ships on Spotify Tuesday. 0:42:55.920 --> 0:42:57.879 You know, it's a real thing. It's it's happening there. 0:42:58.320 --> 0:43:01.720 And the more are the more these young artists realized 0:43:01.760 --> 0:43:03.200 that the power is kind of in their own hands. 0:43:03.960 --> 0:43:06.520 The less and less the less unless you feel like 0:43:06.600 --> 0:43:09.080 you would need a major label. And mind you, I'm 0:43:09.080 --> 0:43:11.000 talking about the major labels that don't the way they 0:43:11.000 --> 0:43:12.680 said the EXXL had you on the cup and not 0:43:15.320 --> 0:43:24.120 for that you sucked up me with you. I just 0:43:24.200 --> 0:43:26.200 got to text, so you know, what I mean, we 0:43:26.280 --> 0:43:31.640 just got the tex little gun, salut the clock, Let's go, 0:43:32.880 --> 0:43:40.000 let's go Independence, shout of clock. But I'll tell you, 0:43:40.320 --> 0:43:43.279 I'm gonna tell you something I got spoiled after having 0:43:43.360 --> 0:43:46.480 hit records, after having streaked records. When I first came 0:43:46.520 --> 0:43:49.520 out was the warri Port we me and Capone, we 0:43:49.640 --> 0:43:52.160 had records that was was considered hits. But just in 0:43:52.239 --> 0:43:55.200 New York said that that streak records right the minute 0:43:55.239 --> 0:43:59.360 I touched hit all fifty markets, the minute I hit 0:43:59.400 --> 0:44:02.040 the number one. It was hard not to try to 0:44:02.120 --> 0:44:04.600 not have that same feeling. So it's like it's like 0:44:04.640 --> 0:44:06.880 if they say when when a person does drugs or 0:44:06.920 --> 0:44:09.799 does crack, that that first hit is always the best, 0:44:09.880 --> 0:44:11.759 So you always go out there and you're chasing that. 0:44:12.200 --> 0:44:14.480 That's the same thing like when I was here when 0:44:14.520 --> 0:44:17.600 I hit, When I hit a different it's a different 0:44:17.640 --> 0:44:20.000 time period of social media that pre social media all that. 0:44:20.080 --> 0:44:22.560 So I had to sell a million records. I had 0:44:22.600 --> 0:44:24.680 to go to a million places, you know what I mean. 0:44:24.719 --> 0:44:26.719 Like it wasn't as easy as what like I used 0:44:26.760 --> 0:44:28.680 to be called on that Like I'm like people look 0:44:28.719 --> 0:44:30.520 at me like I'm prehistoric, you know what, I'm saying, 0:44:30.560 --> 0:44:36.080 I'm doing you I heard you know, people know what 0:44:36.200 --> 0:44:37.880 the fact is, I came out of the nineties. So 0:44:37.920 --> 0:44:40.440 people think that I'm prehistoric because they just think everybody 0:44:40.440 --> 0:44:42.680 everything in the nineties is you know what I mean. 0:44:42.800 --> 0:44:44.840 But I did get it. I did get used to 0:44:46.000 --> 0:44:48.759 um that major label look and that you know, going 0:44:48.960 --> 0:44:51.840 being able to go to every morning show throughout the 0:44:51.920 --> 0:44:53.800 whole country, being able to go and then when you 0:44:53.840 --> 0:44:56.520 get the independent you don't get that same look. You 0:44:56.560 --> 0:44:57.759 know what I'm saying, You have to you have to 0:44:57.840 --> 0:45:01.160 work very, very harder to get the little results that 0:45:01.239 --> 0:45:03.920 you actually get when you get them when you're work, 0:45:04.000 --> 0:45:05.840 when you're with a record label, they believe in you 0:45:05.960 --> 0:45:08.279 and wants to actually do the work. That's that's all 0:45:08.320 --> 0:45:10.839 switch which should be to the combination of both being 0:45:10.920 --> 0:45:14.239 independent to the point where the major is just your distribution. 0:45:14.560 --> 0:45:16.719 It's the right deal for you, and then they take 0:45:16.760 --> 0:45:19.480 you to the next level. That that's always all componis 0:45:19.520 --> 0:45:21.879 when we argue about that, that's all we we where 0:45:21.920 --> 0:45:25.520 we see out of eyes. Stay independent, but get that 0:45:25.600 --> 0:45:28.279 major labeled distribution. You know what I'm saying. So when 0:45:28.320 --> 0:45:30.960 you because man, I ain't gonna lie it'd be hard 0:45:31.120 --> 0:45:35.319 to go to go back to the non suitets. What's 0:45:38.080 --> 0:45:41.080 the economy, loud, I don't want to stay there. I 0:45:41.200 --> 0:45:53.600 can season, you don't have to. I've never been independent. Okay, 0:45:56.120 --> 0:45:58.120 we're taking a shot for you're not going independent. Keep 0:45:58.160 --> 0:46:03.360 that big check money man talking to check money. Let's go. 0:46:04.080 --> 0:46:10.040 Mm hmmm h Japanese Delion is fighting back. Yes, sir, yeah, yes, 0:46:10.080 --> 0:46:15.480 stay stay stay Major, stay Major. No no, no, I'm so. 0:46:15.680 --> 0:46:18.960 I've never been an independent artist, so I don't completely 0:46:19.000 --> 0:46:22.240 know the struggle of independent artists other than you basically 0:46:22.320 --> 0:46:25.360 have to do everything yourself, right, I get, I understand 0:46:25.400 --> 0:46:27.000 what that is. I get that, you know. Shout out 0:46:27.040 --> 0:46:29.319 to my motown team. They do me absolutely, talking right 0:46:29.360 --> 0:46:31.920 over there right spending their motown money, baby, definitely, But 0:46:32.200 --> 0:46:35.239 start spending your own money. It's different. There are also 0:46:35.239 --> 0:46:37.520 about give up ownership. Let's keep that in mind as well. 0:46:37.640 --> 0:46:39.560 To be on the major label, you don't have to 0:46:39.640 --> 0:46:43.160 go up. I don't mind. I don't mean. Well, you 0:46:43.239 --> 0:46:44.880 know what, So I watched something the other day and 0:46:45.000 --> 0:46:46.640 I think it was older. I'm not sure, but it 0:46:46.760 --> 0:46:51.080 was it was the boy uh that made sense. It 0:46:51.160 --> 0:46:53.440 made sense. He was like he was like he just 0:46:53.520 --> 0:46:55.319 wanted to buy his masters back. He wanted to get 0:46:55.360 --> 0:46:57.200 his masters back, and and they was giving him a 0:46:57.239 --> 0:46:58.640 hard time about getting the masters back. He said, what 0:46:58.680 --> 0:47:00.239 are you gonna do with the master? Yeah, it's like 0:47:00.320 --> 0:47:01.840 what you're gonna do put the ships on your on 0:47:01.880 --> 0:47:03.279 your dress, Like what you're gonna do with the ship? 0:47:03.560 --> 0:47:04.759 If you don't know what to do? It it's worth 0:47:04.920 --> 0:47:07.640 it's worthless, it's worth. So I get that. I get that. 0:47:08.080 --> 0:47:13.120 I think the independent route just is attractive to me 0:47:13.280 --> 0:47:16.040 because it's like your own agenda, you know what I'm saying. 0:47:16.440 --> 0:47:19.600 They're definitely on a Record Labels agenda, you know, on 0:47:19.640 --> 0:47:22.600 their timeline. You gotta do ship when when they need 0:47:22.680 --> 0:47:23.880 you to do it, when they want you to do it. 0:47:24.120 --> 0:47:25.799 Whereas the independent you could just do your own thing. 0:47:25.920 --> 0:47:27.880 Like I would love to do a so on Monday 0:47:27.920 --> 0:47:29.719 and drop the ship too, say, because I felt like it. 0:47:29.760 --> 0:47:32.200 I would love to do that, Like that's that's that's 0:47:32.239 --> 0:47:33.960 the kind of freedom. That that's the kind of freedom 0:47:34.040 --> 0:47:36.919 that I feel like, you work, you work this hard 0:47:37.000 --> 0:47:39.240 for this long to get to get that kind of freedom. 0:47:39.680 --> 0:47:41.839 It's like the same. Not all money is good money. 0:47:42.640 --> 0:47:44.920 So you might make some less money as an independent, 0:47:45.000 --> 0:47:48.719 but that freedom is just as less money as an 0:47:48.760 --> 0:47:50.680 independent I mean say, if if that was the case, 0:47:51.200 --> 0:47:53.480 that freedom might be just as valuable for someone made 0:47:53.480 --> 0:47:55.759 a little bit more. Always is always the exception. Like 0:47:55.920 --> 0:47:59.120 you're looking at the rocket Fellers where they own their masters. 0:47:59.200 --> 0:48:00.600 You look at the master each to look at the 0:48:01.000 --> 0:48:03.280 you know, um, the cash money is always the exception 0:48:03.360 --> 0:48:04.600 to that rule, you know what I mean with with 0:48:04.800 --> 0:48:08.360 people like that, like those, But I mean that's the 0:48:08.760 --> 0:48:10.919 they're there are definitely exceptions to the rule. They're they're 0:48:10.960 --> 0:48:15.640 the rare occasions where the independent thing work, not only work, 0:48:15.719 --> 0:48:18.960 but but flourish. Yeah, completely, I bet you. I bet 0:48:18.960 --> 0:48:23.000 you little Wayne, I bet you, um Turk. All of 0:48:23.040 --> 0:48:24.800 them never felt like they was on an independent label 0:48:25.160 --> 0:48:31.000 because they have those independent labels. Was sucking conglomerates be 0:48:31.160 --> 0:48:36.120 then theirselves like it's the like independent because it's independently owned. 0:48:36.200 --> 0:48:38.239 Like it's just y'all know I think y'all are y'all 0:48:38.280 --> 0:48:44.960 are a major label? Okay, all right? A connoty pain? 0:48:48.239 --> 0:48:49.760 Why do you want to put all my friends against 0:48:49.800 --> 0:48:54.400 each other? That's the evil Dominican and the evil Columbia. 0:48:54.760 --> 0:49:03.359 I'm gonna say, uh, I'm man, let's do it. I'm 0:49:03.400 --> 0:49:06.080 glad you're playing the game. He's playing the game. He 0:49:06.320 --> 0:49:08.120 is playing the game. I love it. I love it. 0:49:08.200 --> 0:49:10.520 Thank thank you, thank you. You be a little too 0:49:10.560 --> 0:49:15.960 for Okay, you know a little so little okay, m 0:49:16.239 --> 0:49:23.359 M Quincy Jones or Stevie Wonder, this is you might 0:49:23.360 --> 0:49:33.080 as well kept pouring out of here. This was a 0:49:33.200 --> 0:49:40.279 great idea. We're right second, Quincy Jones or you said, 0:49:40.320 --> 0:49:44.960 Quincy Jones, step Wonder okay, Uh Stevie Wonder. And I 0:49:45.000 --> 0:49:46.800 would say this because because he could see it on 0:49:46.840 --> 0:49:51.240 the low, Shock said he see him in the elevator. 0:49:51.320 --> 0:50:00.160 He pressed the body because boys up to big walking. Well, 0:50:00.880 --> 0:50:08.960 come on, I think you see y'all finger pop and 0:50:09.000 --> 0:50:14.800 ship for years. That's the one that I love you 0:50:14.840 --> 0:50:18.040 to death. I ain't say that with me, no, God, 0:50:18.320 --> 0:50:21.719 Stevie Wonder, because I learned. I learned how to sing 0:50:22.440 --> 0:50:25.439 listening to Stevie Wonder and Michael Jackson. I hate more voice, 0:50:25.680 --> 0:50:29.560 so okay. So I come from uh musical family. Everybody 0:50:29.600 --> 0:50:31.759 and my family do something. My sister came out the 0:50:31.840 --> 0:50:36.480 wound just blowing right, so it's effortless for her. My 0:50:36.520 --> 0:50:38.000 ship was not effortless. I had to had to like 0:50:38.320 --> 0:50:41.799 learn how to sing and drink tea and definitely drink. 0:50:43.400 --> 0:50:47.200 But my mom used to listen to like, you know, temptations, 0:50:47.280 --> 0:50:51.520 Oh Jay's teddy pentagrams, turn them off, big heavy voices, 0:50:51.880 --> 0:50:53.239 and I ain't had that ship. And my mom was 0:50:53.320 --> 0:50:55.439 my hero. That was that was like, that was my person, 0:50:55.520 --> 0:50:56.959 you know what I'm saying. So I wanted to sound 0:50:57.040 --> 0:50:59.160 like the ship that she liked to listen to, but 0:50:59.200 --> 0:51:01.320 I ain't sound like that. So she introduced me to 0:51:01.360 --> 0:51:04.200 Michael Jackson. She introduced me to Stephen want because it 0:51:04.280 --> 0:51:08.480 was kind of a similar tone to what huh literally 0:51:08.560 --> 0:51:17.440 not Michael Jackson, kids your coaches. All I met was 0:51:17.520 --> 0:51:25.279 Kennyson growing up. I was mad jealous one second met 0:51:25.360 --> 0:51:27.840 Michael and one of the steve me one as a 0:51:27.920 --> 0:51:30.400 job I met as an adult. Wait, we could get 0:51:30.400 --> 0:51:33.000 into that. Hold on, don't don't go too fast, you're 0:51:33.000 --> 0:51:35.040 going too fat. Now we're going to beat That's the 0:51:35.120 --> 0:51:37.680 first way we're gonna We're gonna straight to Michael and 0:51:37.840 --> 0:51:42.279 print stories if you have, we love them here. Yeah, 0:51:43.400 --> 0:51:45.800 when Patty the Bell print story was kind of crazy, 0:51:45.960 --> 0:51:49.480 it was that was a good show speaking of that 0:51:50.680 --> 0:51:53.919 wall of Drilla. Never expected to see Patty the mail 0:51:54.520 --> 0:51:58.280 as she drank. We didn't expect everything that was amazing. 0:51:58.400 --> 0:52:00.640 And she drank and she signed my guacam only company too. 0:52:00.719 --> 0:52:07.360 Let's make some noise for me close up and I 0:52:07.440 --> 0:52:09.360 made it deal immediately, let's go back to you. You 0:52:09.480 --> 0:52:12.800 might distribution. I went mad, I went I went independent 0:52:12.840 --> 0:52:21.600 this time. Okay, okay, off the water, throw off the wall. Because, 0:52:21.840 --> 0:52:23.759 as I was just saying, I learned how to sing 0:52:24.360 --> 0:52:27.000 listening to Mike and Steve. The first Michael Jackson music 0:52:27.040 --> 0:52:34.040 that I ever heard was off the Wall. Kanye Wessel 0:52:34.120 --> 0:52:44.239 for Rell fu fuck um fuck that blue Dotter is 0:52:44.280 --> 0:52:49.239 looking at Emmett. I'm too nice. I mean, this is 0:52:49.320 --> 0:52:54.960 this is, this game is made. I told you I 0:52:55.000 --> 0:52:57.280 don't take shots. I don't know. I don't have shot etiquette. 0:52:57.280 --> 0:53:09.239 I don't know what I'm just say etiquette it because 0:53:09.239 --> 0:53:11.840 it's long long, we're not even have we all have 0:53:11.960 --> 0:53:14.799 way through? Were not with the show? Over the show? Yea, yeah, 0:53:14.960 --> 0:53:17.600 we have way through. My answers is about changing on 0:53:18.760 --> 0:53:22.920 this one. This one. It's gonna be ill all right, 0:53:23.200 --> 0:53:29.800 tank or keep sweat, uh, keep sweat. Gotta go with 0:53:29.840 --> 0:53:37.960 the history go absolute o G radio or podcast that's 0:53:38.000 --> 0:53:42.719 independent of major all over, and I can honestly say 0:53:43.520 --> 0:53:46.759 that in the history of me, I've made my money 0:53:46.840 --> 0:53:49.279 via radio. Then I have your podcast. We can respect that. 0:53:49.960 --> 0:53:52.000 Respect that, you know, as soon as the podcast checks 0:53:52.000 --> 0:53:57.040 are rolling in, Hey, yeah, no problem, no problem, we 0:53:57.239 --> 0:54:00.880 respect that, all right, e F And you want to go, Okay, 0:54:01.840 --> 0:54:03.680 I get it now. I didn't. I didn't get it before. 0:54:04.160 --> 0:54:10.680 For Dora's or baseball hats, I didn't get it that first, sorry, 0:54:12.320 --> 0:54:22.440 or because it sounds like a new clearly you live 0:54:22.600 --> 0:54:26.239 quality and else the number three topic wearing niggers in 0:54:26.320 --> 0:54:30.360 the world cats or had the shower back there? I do? 0:54:31.320 --> 0:54:33.480 That was a lot. I know, k I'm saying something, 0:54:35.719 --> 0:54:40.759 so all right, I feel like world world known people 0:54:40.800 --> 0:54:43.160 know the for door like if you if you you 0:54:43.239 --> 0:54:47.279 think neo, you think for door world. However, they both 0:54:47.600 --> 0:54:50.879 embodied me like it's just it's just it's just who 0:54:50.920 --> 0:54:55.320 the hell I am for doors for do? Okay? I 0:54:55.400 --> 0:54:57.480 love a baseball cat, but I feel like I look 0:54:57.560 --> 0:55:00.680 better at the door. I love that they a little 0:55:00.719 --> 0:55:04.360 emoji for the big but the cat, like you, like, 0:55:04.400 --> 0:55:10.160 we wouldn't know what that Okay, Our Green or Curtis Mayfield, Damn, 0:55:11.719 --> 0:55:15.160 let's go, come on, let's drink it. Yeah, I'm ahead. Uh, 0:55:16.520 --> 0:55:18.680 I'm gonna get mine ready at least I really don't 0:55:18.719 --> 0:55:22.799 want to take another shot. Fuck y'all. Damn damn. Yeah, 0:55:23.160 --> 0:55:26.080 that's not a you can't do that. Yeah, you gotta 0:55:26.200 --> 0:55:29.840 show respect to the old JS. So I look serious. 0:55:30.400 --> 0:55:38.359 M hm awk our Green grets may that man find 0:55:38.440 --> 0:55:42.000 christ def Jam. We've been talking about that, people telling 0:55:42.000 --> 0:55:48.160 about the Grits Jef Jam my Motown. Who um, you 0:55:48.239 --> 0:56:02.960 know what think's drinking that? I'm take a shot. I'm 0:56:03.000 --> 0:56:07.400 gonna advise, I'm gonna listen to your advisorysory committee, not 0:56:07.560 --> 0:56:09.880 real ship because def Jam set it up in Motown, 0:56:09.920 --> 0:56:12.920 spiked at home. You know. So they both played very 0:56:13.000 --> 0:56:18.920 intricate injurgle role in my success. So I can't slot 0:56:19.000 --> 0:56:25.040 to both pick up tons of two tons of tongs. 0:56:25.320 --> 0:56:27.560 He's doing a great jobs, gonna get it ready and 0:56:27.960 --> 0:56:37.040 the tinay Rick James and Bobby Brown Bobby Brown head 0:56:37.840 --> 0:56:40.920 No I fock Rick James, Rick James. But as far 0:56:41.000 --> 0:56:45.880 as influenced me personally, Bobby Brown is my imagination. Did 0:56:45.960 --> 0:56:49.719 you hear that Bobby Brown frog um chicken with cocaine. 0:56:52.080 --> 0:56:54.920 I did not hear that. However, I am not shocked 0:56:56.200 --> 0:56:58.120 surprised by that at all, as they said he had 0:56:58.160 --> 0:57:03.400 so much cocaine one time that he got he bred chicken. 0:57:03.719 --> 0:57:06.920 He bred. I ain't gonna lie to that work. I 0:57:07.000 --> 0:57:09.360 don't know where. I ain't allow to you order me. 0:57:09.480 --> 0:57:14.200 He wants to know how that part like, because that 0:57:14.320 --> 0:57:18.640 was either some complete bullshit like it was going to 0:57:18.720 --> 0:57:21.960 be the best chicken regards, this is the best you 0:57:22.040 --> 0:57:25.120 taking by and that it's the best, yo, don't let you. 0:57:31.200 --> 0:57:35.120 Who told us that Rick James their babysitter? Wow? Who 0:57:35.200 --> 0:57:40.040 told that? Was it snow that Rick James? Was it? Conway? 0:57:41.680 --> 0:57:45.080 It was snow that Rick James was just babysitter somebody kids? 0:57:45.320 --> 0:57:47.720 By the way, that snow by the way, whoever that 0:57:48.000 --> 0:57:50.560 was your parents is out of live. I'm saying he 0:57:50.680 --> 0:57:58.400 talked about his mom. That's a strange I'm not I'm 0:57:58.440 --> 0:58:02.680 a good babysittering. What are you doing as what are 0:58:02.680 --> 0:58:04.560 you doing as a parent to where it becomes a 0:58:04.600 --> 0:58:08.760 good idea for Richard James to watch the I gotta 0:58:08.840 --> 0:58:12.160 be there, I gotta Rick you mean slide you gotta 0:58:12.200 --> 0:58:19.040 be there. What's happening? What does that Evan? It was 0:58:19.080 --> 0:58:29.360 definitely picture what you got to go? Something was ship hey, listen, 0:58:29.880 --> 0:58:36.600 ship hold little man, damn bottle every two hours. Okay, 0:58:37.040 --> 0:58:43.360 Whitney Houston or Amy wine House. Whitney Houston Love Amy 0:58:43.400 --> 0:58:45.120 wine House. But there will be no Amy wine House 0:58:45.120 --> 0:58:51.400 where wit Houston, Adele or Mariah Maria Love be now Adele. 0:58:51.880 --> 0:58:53.680 I got record with Mariah. She came to the studio 0:58:53.680 --> 0:58:57.160 and didn't my record and drink and I ain't gonna lie. 0:58:57.160 --> 0:58:58.960 I was so embarrassed when she came to the studio 0:58:59.120 --> 0:59:00.840 because we didn't clean up. You know, I had like 0:59:00.920 --> 0:59:04.280 a clubhouse studio. And then Marian carry walls to like, 0:59:04.320 --> 0:59:06.040 what do you do? You do you take the garbage out? 0:59:06.080 --> 0:59:08.000 Now like he's not so much like you just go 0:59:08.240 --> 0:59:12.840 with it, but but hold on. But I deflected, Neil. 0:59:12.880 --> 0:59:14.600 You know what I did. I said, you drinking wine? 0:59:14.640 --> 0:59:17.600 She said yes, I yeah, and we went and then 0:59:17.680 --> 0:59:20.080 she had her eyes on the wine and not how 0:59:20.160 --> 0:59:24.640 filthy my studio was. Riots in the back of her head. 0:59:24.680 --> 0:59:26.880 She was like, it's dirtiest hand, but let me just 0:59:26.960 --> 0:59:29.160 say good, let me just tell your something. So we 0:59:29.240 --> 0:59:32.240 had so so she was walking around and like I've 0:59:32.320 --> 0:59:34.520 never seen my my my niggas groupy out like this, 0:59:34.680 --> 0:59:37.640 like my niggas was really following her up and down 0:59:37.720 --> 0:59:40.800 the studios. So I said, I said, I said, I said, 0:59:40.840 --> 0:59:43.720 my Ryan, I said, you can't show stop following my rife. 0:59:44.000 --> 0:59:46.200 And then Mariant hits me to to the side. She said, 0:59:46.400 --> 0:59:49.360 they may never see me again. Just left them, just 0:59:49.560 --> 0:59:55.160 left them. And because I was taking the too far, 0:59:55.240 --> 0:59:56.400 because this is my guest, you know what I mean, 0:59:56.480 --> 1:00:01.720 I'm like this before cameras and U Instagram. But she said, 1:00:01.760 --> 1:00:05.000 she said, she leaned over so politely said no, they 1:00:05.080 --> 1:00:08.160 may never see me again. Let them you know. You 1:00:08.200 --> 1:00:10.480 know what she meant was, I ain't never coming back. 1:00:15.200 --> 1:00:23.040 I am coming back different. That's like a life that's 1:00:23.080 --> 1:00:26.600 a life accomplishment. Yes, yes, I got a record. I did. 1:00:26.760 --> 1:00:28.600 I did ship with Mariah. I did shout out the 1:00:28.600 --> 1:00:32.280 big shout out the big life accomplished that that line 1:00:32.360 --> 1:00:37.440 is all because everybody felt like, yeah, yeah, that's it. 1:00:38.080 --> 1:00:43.560 That's it. Dicky Smalls or big punt Biggie Smalls, a 1:00:43.720 --> 1:00:47.200 big pun Biggie Smalls, all respect to Big Punk. But 1:00:48.160 --> 1:00:50.080 I was introduced a Biggie Smallest first, I fell in 1:00:50.160 --> 1:00:53.920 love with Biggie word played first, big smalls good. It's 1:00:53.960 --> 1:00:56.680 the last one, the last one the interview, but the 1:00:56.760 --> 1:00:59.920 last for quick Time and slide Everyone these is a 1:01:00.200 --> 1:01:03.200 m a trick question. It really is a trick question. 1:01:06.600 --> 1:01:10.920 Isn't what it kind of is? Loyalty or respect? Loyalty 1:01:11.360 --> 1:01:15.240 or respect? Can you be loyal to somebody that you 1:01:15.320 --> 1:01:22.080 don't respect? Step? Not really right? If I don't. If 1:01:22.080 --> 1:01:23.760 I don't respect you, why would I Why would I 1:01:23.760 --> 1:01:26.960 waste my loyalty? Only final respect you? So it's a 1:01:27.360 --> 1:01:32.880 definitely loyalty. Let me respect respect, definitely respect. Okay, yeah, 1:01:33.560 --> 1:01:36.000 god damn it. We survived quick time, you did it. 1:01:36.560 --> 1:01:41.320 I'm gonna take a shot for surviving. I'm gonna take surviving. Yeah, 1:01:42.160 --> 1:01:46.760 quick time yet. Okay, okay, And let me just tell 1:01:46.760 --> 1:01:49.840 you something. We've been doing this for six years. There's 1:01:49.880 --> 1:01:54.920 only two people who came here and changed cheers. You 1:01:55.120 --> 1:01:57.880 just made a list. But who else you think is 1:01:57.920 --> 1:02:00.960 the other person came here and changed? Changed like I 1:02:01.040 --> 1:02:06.440 mean change clothes, like clothes changed. But actually actually I didn't. 1:02:06.440 --> 1:02:09.920 I was going you had a whole plan was changed. 1:02:11.160 --> 1:02:13.000 You know what I'm about to drink and smoke and 1:02:13.040 --> 1:02:15.960 it's probably gonna be bad. I love rock. Let me right, 1:02:16.880 --> 1:02:19.000 I'm with family and friends. Let the rock. Why I'm 1:02:19.080 --> 1:02:21.200 good good? Who's the only I ain't got dressed up 1:02:21.200 --> 1:02:23.880 for you? Who's the other person that you think that 1:02:24.000 --> 1:02:31.440 came here and came here and changed? Clowes did Patty 1:02:31.520 --> 1:02:40.920 the change and love it. She she came ready to 1:02:41.040 --> 1:02:42.800 rock hat out here and make a lot of people there. 1:02:43.000 --> 1:02:45.440 We picked up my boy, go go. We picked up 1:02:45.480 --> 1:02:47.520 with the ghost. We had a red carpet for because 1:02:47.520 --> 1:02:50.080 we don't even have to you know what I'm saying. 1:02:50.280 --> 1:02:53.600 And yeah, but she she stayed ready. But she didn't 1:02:53.600 --> 1:02:56.320 take my easies. He took my easy slippers because he 1:02:56.360 --> 1:02:58.160 wanted to go to the bathroom. Wanted to go to 1:02:58.160 --> 1:02:59.920 the bathroom, and I had my slippers right there, and 1:03:00.040 --> 1:03:01.960 so I opened it up and she did it. And 1:03:02.040 --> 1:03:05.160 then when she when she didn't, she started she started dancing. 1:03:05.280 --> 1:03:08.200 I said, holy movie, we want, we want. We got 1:03:08.320 --> 1:03:12.160 hanging about dancing. And soon as she put the easiest 1:03:12.200 --> 1:03:15.920 off slippers off, I'm framing them right now, I'm framing them. 1:03:15.960 --> 1:03:17.720 And so when you walk in my crib, you first 1:03:17.720 --> 1:03:20.160 walk in my crib. You're gonna see the yeasies that 1:03:20.240 --> 1:03:22.680 Palliati about war because see the video footage of her 1:03:22.760 --> 1:03:26.800 wearing it, Because that implies you have a very large crib. No, no, no, 1:03:26.960 --> 1:03:29.600 actually actually don't. Yeah, because actually next to that, I 1:03:29.680 --> 1:03:32.680 got memorabil you just said doing the six years. But 1:03:32.800 --> 1:03:35.840 actually I got Floyd may Whether his whole outfit that 1:03:35.880 --> 1:03:37.760 he wore a drink chance is, I'm the biggest Floyd 1:03:37.800 --> 1:03:40.240 Mayweather fan, So he sent me that. And then I 1:03:40.320 --> 1:03:44.080 got um Lennox Lewis boxing gloves. I got a memorable bill. 1:03:44.160 --> 1:03:46.240 You like a sting going on. You know what I'm saying, 1:03:48.080 --> 1:03:51.000 If you know what, I'll take that. I'll take that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 1:03:51.000 --> 1:03:52.720 I'll take that. I'm just saying that. Yeah, yeah, you'll 1:03:52.720 --> 1:03:55.760 be up in there amongst the gad that's cool, and 1:03:55.840 --> 1:03:57.560 we're taking a shot for that. I think we shouldn't 1:03:57.560 --> 1:04:01.440 take a shot of that. Let take a shot for yourself. 1:04:02.320 --> 1:04:08.520 Everyone shot yourself. I know, I knew I was coming 1:04:08.520 --> 1:04:12.480 to gym saying take a shot, take a shot with 1:04:12.520 --> 1:04:20.680 you're heavy short, I'm drunk, God damn man. Oh I 1:04:20.760 --> 1:04:23.320 stick got my drink on the side too. My spade. 1:04:23.840 --> 1:04:31.440 You sad she chose violence. Yes, listen, listen, listen. We 1:04:31.560 --> 1:04:34.240 used to have a Dominican guy named Mr Lee pouring drinks. 1:04:34.280 --> 1:04:36.960 Now we got a girl for you. You know what? Yes, yes, yes, 1:04:37.400 --> 1:04:39.400 because it would have been weird if you're having a 1:04:39.520 --> 1:04:46.880 un all his love songs. You're saying strange dynamic. Yeah, Joe, 1:04:46.960 --> 1:04:49.200 do you like being married? I like being married. I'm sorry, 1:04:50.240 --> 1:04:52.360 you know I love being married. Yeah, I love streets 1:04:52.440 --> 1:04:55.320 is gross? Yeah, I'm sorry. It's it's true. It's true. 1:04:55.320 --> 1:04:57.360 It ain't it ain't it ain't ship. It ain't ship 1:04:57.440 --> 1:04:59.040 out there, but some ships you don't want. It's real, 1:04:59.360 --> 1:05:02.200 it's real. Like you see somebody do some whole ship. 1:05:02.200 --> 1:05:05.480 You'd be like, I'm going home pretty much, yo, real talk. 1:05:05.560 --> 1:05:08.520 I don't really, I ain't really ain't really outside like that, 1:05:08.960 --> 1:05:12.600 you know what. I gotta say that. I realized that. 1:05:12.640 --> 1:05:14.240 I'm sorry to cut you off. I know. That's the 1:05:14.280 --> 1:05:20.680 other day. My fun. My fun is being bored, like 1:05:20.840 --> 1:05:22.840 that's fun to me. But see, I ain't bory. It 1:05:22.920 --> 1:05:27.000 may be boring to maybe, but I'm having a fucking ball. 1:05:27.120 --> 1:05:30.720 I'm at the crib. I'm killing the refrigerators right there. 1:05:31.000 --> 1:05:33.760 My bedroom is right there, my kids is here. I 1:05:33.800 --> 1:05:37.080 got my video game, nigger, I'm good a good video games. 1:05:37.120 --> 1:05:41.160 Oh damn yeah, I mean well, not all that Zelda 1:05:41.720 --> 1:05:46.120 I have, Legend of Zelda I have. I'm gonna play. 1:05:46.320 --> 1:05:49.200 I'm a PlayStation dude. Yeah yeah, I'm waiting on that 1:05:49.240 --> 1:05:51.240 Street Fight of six to come. Ain't got that Nintendo, 1:05:52.120 --> 1:05:56.400 I don't. That's all the games. This nigger got all 1:05:56.480 --> 1:06:00.280 the games I've not seen that he got. He got. 1:06:00.440 --> 1:06:03.040 That's in the Super Mario Brothers. He had Mike Tyson 1:06:03.120 --> 1:06:05.439 punch Out and Rob knew how to play that. Nick 1:06:05.560 --> 1:06:08.280 Ros is not his age Ross is alright, age bro, 1:06:08.800 --> 1:06:12.640 this this young and you know to play Mike Typson, 1:06:15.240 --> 1:06:19.680 come on home, Bro, even lying us Bro, Bro like 1:06:20.160 --> 1:06:21.720 and this is a crazy ship. This is a is 1:06:21.720 --> 1:06:25.880 a cheat colde and Mike Tyson. How the funk he 1:06:25.960 --> 1:06:32.320 knew that I said this? He yeah, yeah, yeah. I 1:06:32.320 --> 1:06:33.880 think it's be out your lying, bro, at least be 1:06:34.000 --> 1:06:37.560 keeping it real. You forty two, yeah, I'm forty four. Goddamn, 1:06:37.600 --> 1:06:42.480 Holy moly, holy ship. Okay, we said, okay, stay down 1:06:42.600 --> 1:06:46.160 with featuring Young Blue or just just Blue. He took 1:06:46.200 --> 1:06:48.840 the young offer. He took the young He just Blue 1:06:48.880 --> 1:06:52.040 now okay, shout out to the boy Blue. Yeah, man, 1:06:52.400 --> 1:06:55.000 so how did this happen? What was going on? Um? 1:06:56.080 --> 1:06:57.840 Stay down was one of my favorite actually one of 1:06:57.920 --> 1:07:01.200 my favorite joints on this album because uh so it's 1:07:01.200 --> 1:07:02.880 all right, so real ship. What happened is I wrote 1:07:03.160 --> 1:07:06.120 two songs about the same thing, right, and I didn't 1:07:06.160 --> 1:07:07.960 want to get rid of either song, so I just 1:07:08.080 --> 1:07:10.680 chopped the bitches in half and put them together. Um uh. 1:07:10.880 --> 1:07:15.080 The the addition of Blue, that was my nigga. Mr. 1:07:15.120 --> 1:07:18.320 Shout out to my man, Mr. Uh, that's that's my 1:07:18.440 --> 1:07:20.640 cat that just keep his ears to the street. Right. 1:07:20.720 --> 1:07:22.880 He introduced me to Blue, introduced me to blues music, 1:07:23.200 --> 1:07:24.960 and I was impressed by the young boy, you know, 1:07:25.840 --> 1:07:27.920 went over to his house, you know, to to kick 1:07:27.960 --> 1:07:29.440 it with him, to just kind of fill him out, 1:07:29.800 --> 1:07:32.560 and like, I feel like he's getting he's getting love 1:07:32.720 --> 1:07:35.480 right now. But just that's that's that's the that's the 1:07:35.520 --> 1:07:38.400 nigg to watch for real real because like what he's 1:07:38.400 --> 1:07:42.040 giving y'all is good. But like I've heard some ship 1:07:42.360 --> 1:07:44.920 like like he come with some ship ship like for 1:07:45.440 --> 1:07:50.400 shout out to the boy Blue. Has it been on 1:07:50.600 --> 1:07:53.760 another thing? How has it been filming the World of 1:07:53.880 --> 1:07:57.280 Dance Show. So The World of Dance Show unfortunately is 1:07:57.360 --> 1:08:00.760 not coming back now. They they did it, so I 1:08:00.920 --> 1:08:03.080 didn't realize that it was such an expensive show to shoot. 1:08:03.880 --> 1:08:06.200 It's a very very expensive show to shoot. I mean, 1:08:06.320 --> 1:08:08.640 I mean Jelos on the show. Of course, it's an 1:08:08.720 --> 1:08:11.360 expensive show to shoot. But I will say that the 1:08:11.480 --> 1:08:14.040 four years that we did that ship, it was amazing. Um. 1:08:15.280 --> 1:08:16.680 You know what it feel like when you come to 1:08:16.760 --> 1:08:18.680 work and everybody at work feel like they want to 1:08:18.720 --> 1:08:20.920 be there, and I'm talking about it is that. It 1:08:21.040 --> 1:08:23.360 was that thing like like this, the energy from the 1:08:23.479 --> 1:08:26.160 production people, to the dancers that's doing it, to to me, 1:08:26.640 --> 1:08:29.120 j Lo Derek, it was just it's just a great 1:08:29.160 --> 1:08:31.479 experience all the way across the board. Yeah, my girl 1:08:31.560 --> 1:08:34.640 forced me to watch it and I ended up liking it, 1:08:34.720 --> 1:08:37.200 like she's a jail fanatic. And then and then we've 1:08:37.200 --> 1:08:39.799 watched all the ladies. You know she's talking about sometimes 1:08:40.320 --> 1:08:42.479 now you know what you're talking about. So how was 1:08:42.520 --> 1:08:45.679 the Mass Singer? Yo? So I did the Mass Singer 1:08:45.800 --> 1:08:48.040 UK and I did that because I felt like if 1:08:48.080 --> 1:08:49.720 I did it here, I would have got caught easy. 1:08:49.720 --> 1:08:51.840 I feel like people have recognized my voice. But in 1:08:51.920 --> 1:08:53.760 the Massing of UK there was like, yo, if you 1:08:53.800 --> 1:08:56.400 can change your voice, change it, like whatever it is 1:08:56.439 --> 1:08:58.120 you gotta do to not get caught. Do that. And 1:08:58.200 --> 1:09:01.200 I'm like, oh, ship, all right, we're cool. So that 1:09:01.280 --> 1:09:05.040 ship is beautiful and weird. It's fun. I can't breathe. No, no, no, 1:09:05.479 --> 1:09:07.479 I mean, aside from the fact that you can't breathe, 1:09:07.520 --> 1:09:11.400 don't you see units in those elaborate suits. No, little fans, Nah, 1:09:12.080 --> 1:09:17.080 come on, Disney characters, give that ship. I mean that's Disney. No. 1:09:17.240 --> 1:09:23.120 But the wow ship is that even backstage, nobody knows 1:09:23.160 --> 1:09:25.439 who anybody is. Like, okay, so it's it's it's like 1:09:25.560 --> 1:09:27.400 one cat that helps you, like you know, work through 1:09:27.400 --> 1:09:29.800 the music and then like a handler and that's the 1:09:29.960 --> 1:09:33.080 only people that see your actual face everywhere, like you 1:09:33.160 --> 1:09:35.680 walk them around backstage. They give you this, uh it's 1:09:35.720 --> 1:09:38.200 like a like a it's like a visor, like a 1:09:38.280 --> 1:09:42.280 mirror advisor over your face and it's COVID pretty much. 1:09:42.800 --> 1:09:44.720 And it's big black hoodie with the words don't talk 1:09:44.760 --> 1:09:47.479 to me right across the front of it. You. No 1:09:47.640 --> 1:09:49.960 one knows who anybody is even after the show, even 1:09:49.960 --> 1:09:51.360 after I got limited. I was like, all right, so 1:09:51.479 --> 1:09:55.000 real talk, Who's who's who's in the sausage suit. I 1:09:55.040 --> 1:09:56.519 can't tell you, gotta wait till the show comes out. 1:09:56.560 --> 1:09:58.680 Come on, man, I'm going home tomorrow. You can tell me. 1:09:59.479 --> 1:10:01.840 I can't at you. But yeah, it was. It was 1:10:01.920 --> 1:10:05.080 a dope experience. I loved it, especially because because they 1:10:05.120 --> 1:10:08.040 allowed me to like try to change my voice, try 1:10:08.080 --> 1:10:09.920 to sing a different way to not get caught. And 1:10:10.040 --> 1:10:12.599 honestly I was. I was a little piste off because 1:10:12.680 --> 1:10:14.360 read the aora you know what you know read or 1:10:15.320 --> 1:10:17.640 I know read or read it or knows me. We 1:10:17.760 --> 1:10:20.479 worked together. I'm like, if anybody gonna catch me read 1:10:20.479 --> 1:10:23.400 it or read it or did not catch me. It 1:10:23.520 --> 1:10:25.600 was some guest judge that came in on like the 1:10:25.680 --> 1:10:27.680 last two shows and finally tig out who the hella was. 1:10:28.200 --> 1:10:31.400 I'm like, readA real for real, that's what it is, Okay, 1:10:31.479 --> 1:10:34.400 I get She's like, no, no, they I knew who 1:10:34.479 --> 1:10:37.240 you were. The second shodow, I couldn't say anything bullshit, 1:10:37.680 --> 1:10:39.640 you didn't know what hell it was? But it was. 1:10:39.800 --> 1:10:41.240 It was all good though it was. It was. It 1:10:41.320 --> 1:10:44.080 was a great experience. I just feel like I really 1:10:44.120 --> 1:10:48.639 don't want to. I really don't want one. I'm about 1:10:48.680 --> 1:10:50.880 to hear me slurn over here. Come on, that's what 1:10:51.000 --> 1:10:54.320 you can skip one. You can skip one. We're gonna 1:10:54.960 --> 1:10:56.880 rocket y'all girl, mand I can't tell you what, but 1:10:56.920 --> 1:10:59.920 we're gonna take a shot for you. And you would 1:11:00.000 --> 1:11:03.960 read the order in the mask. No that she was fun. 1:11:04.320 --> 1:11:10.160 I didn't saying right, should not read the plan. Mhmm, 1:11:15.040 --> 1:11:19.360 you're good. You're good, Yo. Listen, listen Neal, I'm gonna 1:11:19.360 --> 1:11:24.240 be honest your whole lection out here. Bro. Appreciate that 1:11:26.200 --> 1:11:27.760 I got to see your career from the beginning, from 1:11:27.760 --> 1:11:29.880 when you first worked with Pete Crack. Yeah. Man, you 1:11:29.960 --> 1:11:33.559 never gave Peter Cracker record back though she asked one, 1:11:34.240 --> 1:11:38.160 he won the crack he asked one. He record. He 1:11:38.280 --> 1:11:39.920 didn't tell me you want to record. Shout out to 1:11:39.960 --> 1:11:41.720 Pete Crack. I was in Philly just recently, like a 1:11:41.800 --> 1:11:46.479 couple of days ago. Yo. So so I was there. 1:11:46.960 --> 1:11:49.280 We was at the Dall Center. It was ridiculous. We 1:11:49.360 --> 1:11:52.519 pulled up and I'm like, oh wait, funk, we're in Philly. Yo. 1:11:52.880 --> 1:11:55.800 Can somebody get ahold of Petty Crack? Compete Crack come 1:11:55.840 --> 1:11:59.000 out on stay, Pete Crack pulled him. He was like, Bro, 1:11:59.080 --> 1:12:00.439 I was at a whole family the bart with you. 1:12:00.479 --> 1:12:01.840 I was on the grill, I was getting it in, 1:12:02.520 --> 1:12:04.519 but I paused that to come fork with you. And 1:12:04.560 --> 1:12:08.519 I'm like, yo, yo when this nigga came out on stage, 1:12:08.640 --> 1:12:11.880 because mind you, it's Philly. You know, it's hot everywhere 1:12:11.960 --> 1:12:14.200 right now, but it's it's dumb hot. It's like nine 1:12:14.680 --> 1:12:16.960 degrees at night. It's nuts to the point where even 1:12:17.000 --> 1:12:19.160 the crowd is like, hey, n ship, you know what, 1:12:19.560 --> 1:12:21.599 I'm gonna rock with you sitting down near this hot 1:12:21.640 --> 1:12:26.559 out here. Right when this nigga came out on stage, Nick, 1:12:26.880 --> 1:12:30.160 the whole place went nuts. Shout out to the boy, 1:12:30.200 --> 1:12:31.880 Petty Crack, because he literally pulled up on me in 1:12:31.880 --> 1:12:33.080 the last I called it. I called him in the 1:12:33.200 --> 1:12:35.320 last minute. I called him in the night in the 1:12:35.439 --> 1:12:37.719 ninth and he pulled up on me and he rocked 1:12:37.720 --> 1:12:40.000 out and it was beautiful. Let me look at you 1:12:40.479 --> 1:12:43.160 face to face, man, and man, you gotta get Pete 1:12:43.200 --> 1:12:46.720 Crack ahead. Petty, how let you pet you have my 1:12:46.800 --> 1:12:52.080 personal phone. Numb nigga could call me bro. That's literally 1:12:52.160 --> 1:12:54.439 from the beginning, and that was my first single as 1:12:54.479 --> 1:12:57.479 an artist on that gym why I Got You, Brother, 1:12:57.600 --> 1:13:02.439 and they did. They asked you to Crack brought that 1:13:02.840 --> 1:13:08.120 so they wanted So they knew that they wanted to 1:13:08.200 --> 1:13:09.920 go with Stay as the first record, and mind you, 1:13:10.120 --> 1:13:13.240 l A had like like a whole game plan and 1:13:13.280 --> 1:13:14.760 he was like, right, so we're gonna put this out first. 1:13:15.120 --> 1:13:17.360 This record is not gonna go to number one, but 1:13:17.439 --> 1:13:19.360 it's gonna do just well enough to get attention, to 1:13:19.400 --> 1:13:22.680 get people, and then we gonna hear him was so 1:13:22.760 --> 1:13:25.519 sick and we and we off. J. L A re 1:13:25.640 --> 1:13:28.000 told me this like months before it happened. I'm like, 1:13:28.080 --> 1:13:30.800 this is a psychic But anyway, so they knew they 1:13:30.800 --> 1:13:32.200 wanted to go with Stay, but they felt like it 1:13:32.280 --> 1:13:35.080 needed something. So that's when Jay was like, we gotta 1:13:35.080 --> 1:13:36.680 get a hip hop feature on there. And I was like, 1:13:36.720 --> 1:13:39.200 all right, well, I'm it's jay Z soly listen whoever 1:13:39.240 --> 1:13:41.920 you decide, I'm rocking whatever. So he came with Pete. 1:13:42.200 --> 1:13:45.360 I wasn't familiar with who Pete Crack was when he 1:13:45.439 --> 1:13:48.080 put him on the record, but I loved what he 1:13:48.160 --> 1:13:51.840 did to it. He killed it. Dully Kelly, Damn Kelly. 1:13:52.400 --> 1:13:54.519 I'm like I don't know who you are, but I 1:13:54.720 --> 1:13:59.240 don't even know what right, So so yeah, so Jay 1:13:59.280 --> 1:14:01.679 brought him around and and it was it was love. 1:14:01.800 --> 1:14:04.000 It was all up. He'd been a real nick for 1:14:04.040 --> 1:14:07.559 a long long time. Is my brother? We both Nicko Rican, 1:14:08.520 --> 1:14:11.719 We're both black and Puerto Rican. Yeah, yeah, I love Beattie. 1:14:11.800 --> 1:14:14.960 We haven't spoken a long time, but shas beatty crack. 1:14:15.000 --> 1:14:18.280 I love. He's a Drink Chance of alumni, straight up 1:14:22.560 --> 1:14:25.479 and working and working with Pitt. Yeah, that's the next picture. 1:14:26.640 --> 1:14:30.479 That's another dude. That's another drink Chance and family. Listen, 1:14:30.520 --> 1:14:32.080 I'm gonna keep a funk with ya because I'm drunk. 1:14:32.600 --> 1:14:34.519 I don't have a lot of industry friends because I 1:14:34.600 --> 1:14:36.800 don't do funny. Well, Like, if I don't funk with you, 1:14:36.880 --> 1:14:38.880 you're gonna you're gonna know, like right away, you know 1:14:38.920 --> 1:14:41.880 what I mean. And the whole concept of hanging out 1:14:41.920 --> 1:14:44.800 with somebody, taking pictures with somebody because it's it's it's 1:14:44.840 --> 1:14:47.760 good for your image. Like if y'all take a picture together, 1:14:47.760 --> 1:14:48.720 you know what I mean? He likes that. To guy, 1:14:48.760 --> 1:14:50.680 I don't. I don't give a damn. I don't rock 1:14:50.800 --> 1:14:53.760 like that. If I don't, I don't sunk with a 1:14:53.800 --> 1:14:57.840 lot of people funk with pit Bull because he's because 1:14:57.960 --> 1:14:59.920 aside from this music ship, aside from all of that, 1:15:00.040 --> 1:15:02.560 he's like a straight up, like just real you know. 1:15:02.760 --> 1:15:05.240 He's a genuine cat, you know, and he's always been 1:15:05.280 --> 1:15:08.000 at from from before the success, from before the success. 1:15:08.040 --> 1:15:11.040 He's always been just a genuine dude. And uh yeah, man, 1:15:11.120 --> 1:15:14.679 that's that's that's one of my real friends, not industry friends. 1:15:15.080 --> 1:15:16.920 Not we see each other and we say what's up, 1:15:16.920 --> 1:15:18.479 because that's what you're supposed to do in the industry. Like, 1:15:18.560 --> 1:15:20.679 that's one of my real friends. Like if the ship 1:15:20.760 --> 1:15:22.840 hit the fan, I would call people and he would 1:15:22.840 --> 1:15:24.320 pick the phone up for me, you know what I mean, 1:15:24.400 --> 1:15:28.360 Like real friendship. Did you get to watch his drink Champs? 1:15:28.439 --> 1:15:33.960 It was class try to get because he's friend. He 1:15:34.040 --> 1:15:37.439 brought they brought the vodka through. Yeah, he brought. He 1:15:37.520 --> 1:15:39.400 brought the first Mama Wanna that I started drinking and 1:15:39.479 --> 1:15:42.280 it was crazy. Is he came by himself, by himself 1:15:42.320 --> 1:15:46.600 because he literally that that speaks to the kind of 1:15:46.640 --> 1:15:49.000 cat is like you know what, I'm at home. I'm 1:15:49.000 --> 1:15:50.479 at home and pull up on my home boys. We're 1:15:50.479 --> 1:15:52.400 gonna do this it's gonna be fun like the career 1:15:52.400 --> 1:15:54.759 of only nobody with me. That's that's that's that speaks 1:15:54.760 --> 1:15:56.280 to the kind of cat that people shout out to 1:15:56.280 --> 1:15:58.640 the boy shout out to Mr. Worldwide. The time of 1:15:58.720 --> 1:16:01.760 my life, It's time of our lives. That's the It 1:16:01.840 --> 1:16:04.280 was the second one we did, the second one, we did? 1:16:04.960 --> 1:16:07.280 Uh when we did the first one? This is the 1:16:07.760 --> 1:16:11.120 super Yeah. Well, I mean, I mean give me. Everything 1:16:11.960 --> 1:16:16.719 was was massive. Like I've performed at Womley Stadium before, 1:16:17.320 --> 1:16:19.960 but when I performed at Womeny Stadium with this cat, 1:16:20.560 --> 1:16:23.040 It's eighty people jumping up and down at the same time. 1:16:23.080 --> 1:16:27.360 Grab somebody sexy, tell him electric, nigga, it was. It 1:16:27.439 --> 1:16:32.880 was electric. You have no idea. So it was different. 1:16:32.880 --> 1:16:35.040 It's different with that dude. So so he hit me 1:16:35.080 --> 1:16:36.720 with the second When he sent me the track, he 1:16:36.840 --> 1:16:38.000 was like, we gotta we gotta hit him again. We 1:16:38.040 --> 1:16:42.200 gotta do something. And mind you the concept of because 1:16:42.479 --> 1:16:44.479 at this point, I'm rich, I'm not paying rent, I'm 1:16:45.400 --> 1:16:48.680 I'm ownership at this point. But you know, I got 1:16:48.800 --> 1:16:51.280 casts around me. That's that's you know, up and coming 1:16:51.320 --> 1:16:52.760 and you know, trying to make it happy and I'm 1:16:52.760 --> 1:16:54.519 working with young writers and trying to get them right. 1:16:54.880 --> 1:16:58.120 And I'm listening to I'm listening to somebody tell their story, 1:16:58.680 --> 1:17:00.960 you know, about the whole. I knew my real was 1:17:01.000 --> 1:17:05.840 gonna be later by the week ago. I knew I 1:17:05.960 --> 1:17:08.200 worked my ass off, but I still can't pay it though. 1:17:08.479 --> 1:17:10.920 I'm sitting listening to this cat tell the story to 1:17:11.040 --> 1:17:13.559 his home. But like yo, I knew I wasn't gonna 1:17:13.560 --> 1:17:15.519 be able to pay the rent, but it only costs 1:17:15.520 --> 1:17:17.840 twenty bucks again the club. So I went to the 1:17:17.880 --> 1:17:23.080 mother club and I'm like, yea, that is the realist ship. Ever, 1:17:23.240 --> 1:17:25.439 it's like I can't pay it today, I ain't gonna 1:17:25.439 --> 1:17:28.320 be able to pay it tomorrow. But tonight I can 1:17:28.320 --> 1:17:30.320 get this guy damn club. I can get in there 1:17:30.320 --> 1:17:32.280 to have a good time. And I'm like, that's that's it, 1:17:32.720 --> 1:17:34.479 that's it. I knew my real was gonna be later. 1:17:34.520 --> 1:17:36.240 By the week ago. I worked my ass off. I 1:17:36.280 --> 1:17:38.679 still can't pay it, though, but I got just enough 1:17:39.120 --> 1:17:41.160 to get off in this club, had me a good 1:17:41.240 --> 1:17:45.160 time before my time is up. N you just wrote 1:17:45.200 --> 1:17:49.560 the hook come in hugs love yeah, and sent that 1:17:49.680 --> 1:17:53.160 to bit and the rest is history. The rest is history. Yeah, man. Yeah, 1:17:54.320 --> 1:17:57.280 I write from personal experience. I write from the experience 1:17:57.320 --> 1:17:59.519 of the people around me that's willing to tell me 1:17:59.600 --> 1:18:01.599 the story. You know what I'm saying. I always try 1:18:01.640 --> 1:18:04.559 to make it relatable. You know, everybody knows I ain't 1:18:04.560 --> 1:18:07.240 paying rent right now. I mean, at least if you're smart, 1:18:07.240 --> 1:18:08.960 you know I ain't paying on that rent. So you 1:18:09.080 --> 1:18:12.479 know I wasn't talking about myself. Same way, same way. 1:18:12.560 --> 1:18:15.320 It's like, I'm a married man, but I cannot write 1:18:15.360 --> 1:18:18.080 every song from the aspect of a married man. Ain't married. 1:18:18.160 --> 1:18:20.519 I heard you said, because everybody ain't married, I don't 1:18:20.840 --> 1:18:24.639 write sauce like when you was depressed. You don't even 1:18:24.720 --> 1:18:29.000 right it for fully, for all depressed people, because everybody's 1:18:29.000 --> 1:18:31.599 not depressed, because everybody ain't depressed. I try. I try 1:18:31.640 --> 1:18:35.120 to tap into the different aspects of what the human 1:18:35.160 --> 1:18:37.679 beings is going through. That's just what I'm going Also 1:18:37.760 --> 1:18:41.000 heard you say that hurt music like when when you 1:18:41.080 --> 1:18:43.519 go through a hurt situation, it makes for better music. Yo. 1:18:45.120 --> 1:18:47.880 I've never been able to completely understand it, but I 1:18:48.280 --> 1:18:51.880 have I have an understanding of it. It's like, okay, 1:18:51.960 --> 1:18:55.000 so everybody on the face of the planet knows what 1:18:55.280 --> 1:18:58.479 love is to us to a degree, even if you've 1:18:58.560 --> 1:19:00.720 never felt it, you know that it exists. You know 1:19:00.800 --> 1:19:02.599 that it's a force that exists, and it's and it's 1:19:02.960 --> 1:19:04.560 it's hard to put a finger on, but but you 1:19:04.640 --> 1:19:07.679 know that it's there. So if you take the number 1:19:07.720 --> 1:19:10.719 of people that are in love or experiencing love versus 1:19:10.800 --> 1:19:13.479 the people that are not, versus the people that are 1:19:13.520 --> 1:19:15.800 searching for it, versus the people that are that are 1:19:15.840 --> 1:19:20.040 in in in the darker elements of love, I promise 1:19:20.080 --> 1:19:22.120 you was more people over here than it is over here. 1:19:22.680 --> 1:19:25.880 So for whatever, so so them them, them funked up 1:19:25.920 --> 1:19:29.720 situations just make four amazing song lyrics. Because it's like, 1:19:29.720 --> 1:19:31.920 all right, if I need to cry, I need something 1:19:31.960 --> 1:19:33.680 to cry too. I need I need a song, I 1:19:33.760 --> 1:19:36.360 need some If I can't find a person that can 1:19:36.400 --> 1:19:38.760 relate to what I'm going through, I'm gonna put this 1:19:38.840 --> 1:19:41.160 song on because I know that whoever wrote this song 1:19:41.280 --> 1:19:45.160 knows exactly what I'm feeling. With Pinky Ring, Pinky Ring, 1:19:45.280 --> 1:19:47.560 you made pinky ring. That was different. That was that 1:19:47.680 --> 1:19:51.240 was anger, That wasn't that was I was. I was 1:19:51.360 --> 1:19:54.920 upset and no, no, no, no, it wasn't a disrecord. 1:19:55.240 --> 1:19:59.120 I didn't say anything about her, so to speak. I 1:19:59.160 --> 1:20:01.679 didn't say anything all about her. I was just speaking 1:20:01.720 --> 1:20:05.640 on the way that I was handling this situation. Straight up, 1:20:06.200 --> 1:20:11.599 shut up. We forgive you, thank you, and she gave 1:20:11.680 --> 1:20:16.600 me some good. That was when I seed you at Shoolls. 1:20:16.640 --> 1:20:19.599 I ain't gonna lie because I met you very early 1:20:19.680 --> 1:20:23.600 on with Tina Davis, and I seed you very very successful. 1:20:24.160 --> 1:20:28.439 And when I knew that, I knew. I knew he 1:20:28.600 --> 1:20:30.639 was going to work it out for some reason, because 1:20:30.760 --> 1:20:32.840 because I believe in love. I'm sorry, I know I 1:20:33.280 --> 1:20:37.120 made all these gangster records mean stuffing. You're passion the nigger. 1:20:37.120 --> 1:20:39.719 I get it, I get it. But but I knew 1:20:40.640 --> 1:20:42.920 even because at that time, I can tell you what hurt, 1:20:43.280 --> 1:20:46.439 I don't know what we were going through. Bro. So okay, 1:20:46.640 --> 1:20:51.160 So the peaky ring record, right, she came back, the 1:20:51.240 --> 1:20:54.200 wedding ring, I turned into a pinky ring that was 1:20:55.080 --> 1:20:59.559 completing other cap that was me moving around hurt as hell, 1:21:00.040 --> 1:21:03.559 trying to not look hurt like I'm out with my niggas. 1:21:03.560 --> 1:21:06.120 We had strip clubs like and I get back to 1:21:06.200 --> 1:21:07.680 the room at the end of the night and just 1:21:07.840 --> 1:21:10.200 cry myself to sleep. I was fucked up. I was 1:21:10.320 --> 1:21:12.400 fucked up for real, for real, and I couldn't. I 1:21:12.439 --> 1:21:14.519 couldn't show people that, you know what I'm saying that 1:21:14.720 --> 1:21:16.519 the pride of me was like, no, I'm good. Yeah, 1:21:16.640 --> 1:21:18.040 she didn't want to be you know what, I'm straight, 1:21:18.400 --> 1:21:19.840 and in the back of my head, I wanted to 1:21:19.880 --> 1:21:23.200 go home, nigger. I was hurt, hurt like it was bad. 1:21:23.280 --> 1:21:25.360 It was bad. So so the fact that you could 1:21:25.360 --> 1:21:28.200 see that means that I wasn't hiding that ship as 1:21:28.240 --> 1:21:30.720 well as I thought. No, No, I saw this and 1:21:30.800 --> 1:21:32.640 we had so hard. So we just me and you, 1:21:32.720 --> 1:21:36.360 a bunch of white people. And I looked at it 1:21:36.439 --> 1:21:40.160 and I said, no, that didn't need He's not gonna 1:21:40.200 --> 1:21:44.560 say you know what. And by the way, this is 1:21:44.640 --> 1:21:47.680 the time when we really first started drink champs. But 1:21:47.800 --> 1:21:50.080 I didn't want to pause. I didn't want to take 1:21:50.080 --> 1:21:52.320 advantage of you. I didn't want to. I was just like, 1:21:52.479 --> 1:21:56.000 you know what, nigga, that drink chaps. Yeah, that would 1:21:56.000 --> 1:22:02.720 have been hard, that ship would have been because Beau, 1:22:02.920 --> 1:22:07.040 you know what, the crazy you've ever been a guy 1:22:07.160 --> 1:22:10.200 that told the dude you'll leave that bitch and did 1:22:10.240 --> 1:22:14.960 he get back? That don't have a good seat. Now 1:22:19.560 --> 1:22:21.640 you know the children that you don't never want to 1:22:21.680 --> 1:22:24.519 be that dude to be like yo man yo, and 1:22:24.640 --> 1:22:26.560 then you get back when you get back with a 1:22:26.720 --> 1:22:33.280 whole that's that's real. That's real now. I uh, I 1:22:33.400 --> 1:22:35.519 knew that I didn't want to get to get a divorce. 1:22:35.560 --> 1:22:37.800 I mean coming, you know, you know what it is 1:22:37.920 --> 1:22:41.920 for negative even decide to get married, like especially like, 1:22:42.080 --> 1:22:45.800 let's keeping a nig in my position to be like 1:22:45.920 --> 1:22:49.240 you know what, cool on all, y'all, this one is 1:22:49.479 --> 1:22:52.920 just this one right, like that ship ain't like that's heavy. 1:22:53.120 --> 1:22:56.320 That's heavy. So if I go there, if I go 1:22:56.479 --> 1:22:58.880 to that extreme like I wanted to be just you, 1:22:59.520 --> 1:23:02.280 I ain't trying to get divorced. That's an all moment, y'all. 1:23:03.240 --> 1:23:14.400 To three, that's a woman's Yeah, that's a shot moment. Yeah, 1:23:15.800 --> 1:23:18.960 that's also a shot clock time. We can do it 1:23:19.040 --> 1:23:22.519 because we're taking a shot for your wife, kid, say no, 1:23:22.800 --> 1:23:26.560 it's also a for my wife's also a let's go 1:23:28.240 --> 1:23:31.640 and for y'alla for year, Yeah you go too far. 1:23:32.640 --> 1:23:36.200 This is for y'all. Kindling y'all, and you believe in it. 1:23:36.360 --> 1:23:40.200 Love because I love love and I love love. Let's 1:23:40.200 --> 1:23:46.439 get it in and I also love love thanks Mr Lee. 1:23:47.000 --> 1:23:50.600 I've been together. I've been together. I've been together with 1:23:50.680 --> 1:23:53.599 my wife fifteen years. We've been married ten. I've been 1:23:53.640 --> 1:23:57.519 married six, we've been together eight. God damnit make some 1:23:57.640 --> 1:24:01.680 noise for that. I how did you count wrong? How 1:24:01.720 --> 1:24:04.799 did you count that wrong? Taking a lot of shots? 1:24:05.640 --> 1:24:09.880 I didn't want he was married for no I I 1:24:09.960 --> 1:24:12.400 was telling him how long I was married. He shared 1:24:12.439 --> 1:24:15.400 his information with me. Because you're not married, right, technically 1:24:16.760 --> 1:24:19.280 you better relax. I mean, I'm pretty pretty much married, man, 1:24:19.320 --> 1:24:21.320 So what are you gonna do it? Hey? Man? Relaxed? 1:24:24.120 --> 1:24:28.519 You want to get and then you want to tell 1:24:28.560 --> 1:24:34.360 me to relax. Come straight up, don't do that. We 1:24:35.040 --> 1:24:37.439 we lived together, we're married as far as i'm that's 1:24:37.439 --> 1:24:46.040 that's Latino marriage. You don't like you, but let me 1:24:46.080 --> 1:24:50.720 ask you. You got to work with Beyonce and wed. Yes, 1:24:51.200 --> 1:24:53.920 let's let's let's talk about that. Man. So in which 1:24:53.960 --> 1:24:55.680 one you want to talk about first? But your we one? 1:24:56.360 --> 1:25:02.639 So pick the wrong one? We got drinks ship. I'm 1:25:02.680 --> 1:25:06.439 being carried out. Um No. So when I first met Rihanna, 1:25:06.520 --> 1:25:10.880 she was a brother was not I was perform broy 1:25:11.600 --> 1:25:13.479 she was young, young. She was like this might have 1:25:13.560 --> 1:25:16.080 been sixteen and seventeen somewhere there when first when I 1:25:16.200 --> 1:25:19.880 first first met her death Jamp had Tianna Taylor too. 1:25:19.920 --> 1:25:25.120 It was it was Rihanna, Tianna just got uh black Butterfly. 1:25:28.040 --> 1:25:33.479 Oh damn you? Hey, hey, Spike Tea, what's pop? Listen? 1:25:33.600 --> 1:25:39.639 We drunk? That was all of Yes, Uh, I don't 1:25:39.640 --> 1:25:42.040 want to what I meant sa Marie Rihanna and and 1:25:42.280 --> 1:25:48.800 uh black Butterfly? That yeah, uh still Yeah. When I 1:25:48.840 --> 1:25:51.400 first met Rihanna, she was very much still. She was 1:25:51.439 --> 1:25:54.280 a kid, you know. Always we started working together, you know, 1:25:54.439 --> 1:25:56.360 japol me and studio what you know, I'm writing with 1:25:56.520 --> 1:25:58.160 or whatever the case may be. I'm sorry, man, you 1:25:58.240 --> 1:26:00.160 can't just be saying it. That's so nonchally to my 1:26:00.360 --> 1:26:03.760 jay Z. Yes, I'm sorry. Jay Z put me in 1:26:03.800 --> 1:26:05.840 the studio with Rihanna very very young, which she was 1:26:05.960 --> 1:26:09.000 very very young, and you know, we're writing and I'm 1:26:09.040 --> 1:26:11.680 taking the Jimmy jam Terry Lewis approach like I'm just 1:26:11.720 --> 1:26:15.040 sitting having conversations about what's going on with her so 1:26:15.200 --> 1:26:17.000 that I can then turn around right the record. Right. 1:26:17.720 --> 1:26:21.400 So the odds ship is that as Rihanna is growing 1:26:21.520 --> 1:26:26.040 up and becoming the sex symbol that Rihanna is and 1:26:26.240 --> 1:26:29.479 all of my nigga's run. He's like, yo, yo, you 1:26:29.560 --> 1:26:33.639 saw Rihanna in them shorts. And I'm like, because it's 1:26:33.680 --> 1:26:36.760 like baby sisters, you know, my little sister. I'm like 1:26:37.360 --> 1:26:40.120 the DJ record out, yet this is not this is 1:26:40.200 --> 1:26:45.240 this is after the DJ Okay cool out and us 1:26:45.280 --> 1:26:47.479 have seen her and the niggas is on it, and 1:26:47.880 --> 1:26:51.640 I'm like, I'm like, I'm I'm pretty to these conversations, 1:26:51.720 --> 1:26:55.080 but I can't engage. It's like, yeah, yo, nigga Rihanna. 1:26:55.200 --> 1:26:59.880 Yeah yeah, trying to down can't. Yeah, I can't engage 1:27:00.000 --> 1:27:02.760 these conversations because she's weird because like we've had like 1:27:02.960 --> 1:27:07.160 in depth conversations about real ship, like this is literally 1:27:08.439 --> 1:27:10.400 yeah yeah at this point, you know what, because I'm 1:27:10.439 --> 1:27:13.200 trying to write records for so we're talking about everything. 1:27:13.240 --> 1:27:16.120 We're talking about dudes, We're talking about all of that ship, right, 1:27:17.439 --> 1:27:21.040 And it's just weird because it's like as she gets older, act, 1:27:21.240 --> 1:27:23.840 you know, act, she's growing into a young woman. It's 1:27:23.920 --> 1:27:27.439 like every nig around me is like yo, Rihanna, and 1:27:27.520 --> 1:27:31.439 I'm like, uh stop, She's weird. She was just weird 1:27:31.560 --> 1:27:33.200 for me, Like I couldn't. I couldn't look at us 1:27:34.200 --> 1:27:37.320 that little from from the first day I met her, 1:27:37.400 --> 1:27:42.400 it was like I under the wing protecting you after that, 1:27:42.760 --> 1:27:44.519 and then it's still that. You know what I'm saying, 1:27:44.840 --> 1:27:46.960 Like we ain't as close as we once was, but 1:27:47.080 --> 1:27:48.880 like you know what I'm saying to this day, and 1:27:49.200 --> 1:27:51.519 was like, yo, Rihanna get it. I'm like, yeah, right, cool, Yeah, 1:27:51.560 --> 1:27:54.320 that's that's cool. I can't. I can't engage in that 1:27:54.360 --> 1:27:56.800 because that's because because of where we started at, you 1:27:56.840 --> 1:27:59.080 know what I mean, But you do respect Brihanna is. 1:28:00.320 --> 1:28:05.320 Rihanna is a worse Rihanna is the chick that's gonna 1:28:05.360 --> 1:28:08.360 show first and leave last, which is why when I 1:28:08.479 --> 1:28:10.080 heard she was a billionaire, I was like, yeah, that 1:28:10.200 --> 1:28:14.200 makes sense because she's accordable. Period. It's like, what we're doing, 1:28:15.080 --> 1:28:17.360 it ain't done yet. How many days it's been four 1:28:17.439 --> 1:28:19.679 or five, We're still here. Fuck it until it's done. 1:28:19.720 --> 1:28:23.920 I'm here, Like that's who Rihanna is. Yeah man, yeah man. 1:28:26.280 --> 1:28:28.200 And that's what it takes to get to that billion 1:28:28.320 --> 1:28:30.280 straight up, that's what it takes. You gotta you gotta 1:28:30.360 --> 1:28:32.920 do this ship, like like you ain't got nothing else 1:28:32.960 --> 1:28:34.400 to do, or even if you've got something else to do, 1:28:34.479 --> 1:28:37.120 you've chosen to be here. Goddamn it. That's that's Rihanna. 1:28:37.720 --> 1:28:41.080 Now let's just get to be So is your first 1:28:41.120 --> 1:28:44.760 time working, first time working with Beyonce. I'm in the 1:28:44.840 --> 1:28:48.200 studio and uh, I'm I'm I'm in the studio as 1:28:48.240 --> 1:28:50.400 a writer at this point. You know, I gotta deal. 1:28:50.479 --> 1:28:52.240 I'm on def Jam and I'm working on my album, 1:28:52.280 --> 1:28:56.560 but I'm also just righting. Period. We get a commission 1:28:56.600 --> 1:29:00.120 to do some ship for Britney Spears. M interesting, I'm like, 1:29:00.400 --> 1:29:11.160 oh ship before Brie she was Britney. Motherfucker brit Oh Ship. Yeah, 1:29:11.280 --> 1:29:13.920 let's get it. So, I'm in the studio, I'm working 1:29:13.960 --> 1:29:16.200 and writing them, writing songs with Britney Spears in mind. 1:29:16.880 --> 1:29:20.280 Uh shout out to my nigger, Top Time. Top Times 1:29:20.320 --> 1:29:22.920 comes in the studio every other day, just listening to 1:29:23.040 --> 1:29:25.920 what I'm doing and every other song. He was like, yo, yeah, 1:29:25.960 --> 1:29:29.560 let me copy of that, and I'm thinking and for 1:29:29.840 --> 1:29:32.360 for the label. It's cool. Yeah, yeah, go ahead, go ahead. 1:29:33.200 --> 1:29:35.320 If I'm doing it for somebody specifically, you're not supposed 1:29:35.320 --> 1:29:37.120 to give away a copy of the ship, but again 1:29:38.560 --> 1:29:43.200 my nigger. So Um, I did a song called Flaws 1:29:43.240 --> 1:29:46.320 and All like the Gun again, Flaws and All. If 1:29:46.360 --> 1:29:49.439 anybody knows this record, Flaws and All, but it's Beyonce 1:29:49.640 --> 1:29:52.880 record now, But it started out as a Britney Spears record. 1:29:52.920 --> 1:29:56.600 I wrote the record for Britney Spears. Talk comes in 1:29:57.280 --> 1:29:59.920 listening shout out to my boy shor shout out ty talk. 1:30:00.000 --> 1:30:02.040 I'm saying, listen, listen to what me and she is doing. 1:30:02.040 --> 1:30:03.200 It's like, yo, let me get let me get a 1:30:03.240 --> 1:30:05.559 copy of that. I'm ride home to the ship whatever. 1:30:05.760 --> 1:30:08.080 Al Right, cool, yeah, whatever, we give them the ship nigga. 1:30:08.920 --> 1:30:10.439 Maybe a week later he was like, yeah, so that 1:30:10.520 --> 1:30:13.639 flaws on All ship. Yeah, don't put that into Brittany pack. Yeah, 1:30:13.720 --> 1:30:18.599 Beyonce is taking that. What what the fun? What? Wait? 1:30:19.200 --> 1:30:21.120 Yeah you know yeah, yeah, Beyonce is taking it. Don't worry, boy, 1:30:21.120 --> 1:30:24.200 don't worry. I don't worry about beyonest is taking that. So, um, 1:30:25.080 --> 1:30:28.400 what's the other one? What's the other one? Uh? Question 1:30:28.479 --> 1:30:34.840 exists question existence on Rihanna's Uh Good Girl Girl, Good Girl, 1:30:34.920 --> 1:30:39.080 Gone Bad album, another song that was supposed to go 1:30:39.200 --> 1:30:43.040 to Britney Spears. So Outside came in. It was like, yeah, 1:30:43.160 --> 1:30:44.600 let me get a copy of that. I'm ever just 1:30:44.720 --> 1:30:46.080 ride to it. Let me get a copy of that. 1:30:48.080 --> 1:30:50.519 A week later, he's like, yeah, that's that's on Rihanna ship. Yeah, 1:30:50.520 --> 1:30:54.439 don't put that in the Brittney pack. That's Brianna Nigga. 1:30:55.120 --> 1:30:59.040 Every Beyonce is the replaceable was not for Britney Spears. 1:30:59.040 --> 1:31:01.440 I wrote that. I wrote that it for my everyplaceable. 1:31:02.080 --> 1:31:04.960 It must not know about me, sir, that one. That 1:31:05.040 --> 1:31:07.760 one wrote that for me. And that's sound good. It 1:31:07.800 --> 1:31:14.599 sound good. You didn't drink that tea, Honey, you alive? 1:31:16.080 --> 1:31:19.360 Text me to curse good. I love like you said. 1:31:19.840 --> 1:31:23.439 He was blown before, Like you don't have vocals before, 1:31:23.479 --> 1:31:28.080 and then I have not. The police don't hear my 1:31:28.600 --> 1:31:30.960 super ballot. Listen when you get ready, I'll let your 1:31:30.960 --> 1:31:35.960 boy ballots all that. No, but but yeah, Beyonce is 1:31:36.120 --> 1:31:39.000 a placeable. I wrote that ship to keep. Initially I 1:31:39.040 --> 1:31:41.759 wrote that ship for myself. Yeah, I mean the story 1:31:41.920 --> 1:31:43.720 is okay. So I grew up in the house with 1:31:43.960 --> 1:31:48.240 my mother, my grandmother, my sister, and five aunts all 1:31:48.360 --> 1:31:52.519 women until I was like sixteen, right, So I have 1:31:52.760 --> 1:31:56.200 one aunt in particular that was This was the aunt 1:31:56.280 --> 1:31:59.040 that had a new boyfriend like every fucking month. Every month. 1:31:59.120 --> 1:32:02.160 It was, girl, I love him, he makes me feel 1:32:02.200 --> 1:32:06.080 he makes me right there to say the least. So 1:32:07.320 --> 1:32:10.000 this was then in the house that had a little 1:32:10.040 --> 1:32:12.160 bit more money than everybody else. She was by no 1:32:12.240 --> 1:32:14.200 means rich. She was living in the house with us. However, 1:32:15.160 --> 1:32:18.760 she had more money than everybody else. So when she 1:32:18.880 --> 1:32:21.160 started so when she bought a car for this dude, 1:32:21.400 --> 1:32:25.720 she bought a jag for this dude. Mind, you you 1:32:26.040 --> 1:32:30.800 are living in a house with seventeen other people and 1:32:30.920 --> 1:32:34.880 you bought a shag for this dude. It was so 1:32:35.000 --> 1:32:37.320 it was it was like it was the talk of 1:32:37.439 --> 1:32:41.559 the crib for like, mind, I'm like eight eight years old, 1:32:41.640 --> 1:32:44.720 but I remember this because every conversation, like like my 1:32:44.880 --> 1:32:47.559 mom and my grandma Aunties, they used to like commune 1:32:47.600 --> 1:32:49.840 in the kitchen, you know, get their little wine and 1:32:49.960 --> 1:32:52.759 you know, their their little reef and just just talk 1:32:53.320 --> 1:33:04.920 that this this is nineteen, this might be this be nicety, right, 1:33:05.960 --> 1:33:08.000 and they were just sitting just just talk about, you know, 1:33:08.080 --> 1:33:10.560 just what's going on, talking about her, Like you you 1:33:10.720 --> 1:33:12.559 you you're spending money on this dude. You didn't even 1:33:12.600 --> 1:33:15.599 got you, ain't got a jag? Which was wrong with you? Right? 1:33:16.120 --> 1:33:17.840 And I'm privy to all of this because I'm not 1:33:18.120 --> 1:33:21.679 I'm literally the only male in the carib So I'm 1:33:21.680 --> 1:33:23.439 sitting watching Time and Jerry, but all of this is 1:33:23.520 --> 1:33:25.320 going on. I have no idea that this ship is 1:33:25.360 --> 1:33:27.800 gonna be song lyrics later on in life. I'm just 1:33:27.880 --> 1:33:29.920 I'm just locking I'm just locking it in. So I 1:33:30.080 --> 1:33:34.960 remember when she found out that this dude was rolling 1:33:35.000 --> 1:33:37.599 around in that same jack But like with other bitches 1:33:37.840 --> 1:33:41.280 type ship, I remember, I was privy to all the 1:33:41.400 --> 1:33:44.840 conversations like girls, right, you're gonna be high. I ain't 1:33:44.840 --> 1:33:54.560 gonna I love you. But that ain't her name, that's 1:33:54.560 --> 1:33:56.479 her nickname because that no, no, no, that that's what 1:33:56.520 --> 1:33:59.920 I'm talking about. You take a shot, cook y'all talk. 1:34:00.000 --> 1:34:02.680 I can take a shot. You can you can't leave 1:34:02.680 --> 1:34:06.240 cooking suddenly become the person that is not succumbing to 1:34:06.360 --> 1:34:10.040 pure preser all of a sudden, miss me, we got you? 1:34:15.040 --> 1:34:18.720 So I so the song is a true story, is 1:34:18.760 --> 1:34:22.000 a completely true story, like I remember, because I remember 1:34:22.080 --> 1:34:24.519 this dude. He stuck around just a little bit longer 1:34:24.560 --> 1:34:27.519 than everybody else, right, and he was always the dude 1:34:27.560 --> 1:34:29.519 that like, like wanted to rub your head when you 1:34:29.560 --> 1:34:31.160 come in the group. It's going on a little man, 1:34:31.479 --> 1:34:35.120 You'll get the hell off me, bro, know you. I 1:34:35.160 --> 1:34:40.760 feel like I did not like this dude because he 1:34:40.880 --> 1:34:43.439 was just trying so hard to be liked, you know 1:34:43.479 --> 1:34:47.040 what I mean. So I remember the day that he 1:34:47.160 --> 1:34:49.559 pulled up and mind you, because mind you, the auntie 1:34:49.560 --> 1:34:51.200 hasn't talked about it. Hold on, He's like, oh, yeah, 1:34:51.200 --> 1:34:53.640 you know we're coming over tomorrow. Oh no, I got 1:34:53.680 --> 1:34:55.320 all this stuff in this box right here. Yeah, all 1:34:55.400 --> 1:34:58.439 his stuff is right here. So he pulls up. I'm 1:34:58.479 --> 1:35:00.720 watching Tom and Jerry walking in house. You do look 1:35:00.880 --> 1:35:04.400 rub my head was on America. Fuck me off that 1:35:05.680 --> 1:35:11.280 to this day, to this day, here part of you 1:35:11.439 --> 1:35:14.639 called trauma? You did you? You called trauma in my life? 1:35:15.200 --> 1:35:20.320 Did no? No? So so he go back in the 1:35:20.439 --> 1:35:23.880 room where where we're cookie at, and he's looking for 1:35:24.000 --> 1:35:26.600 something specifically, like baby, hey, where my mother jacket that. 1:35:26.760 --> 1:35:29.400 She's like, oh yeah, to the left, yeah, in that 1:35:29.520 --> 1:35:31.519 box right there, to the left of the closet. That's 1:35:31.520 --> 1:35:36.800 all your ship right there. And I'm like, mind you, 1:35:36.920 --> 1:35:45.200 I'm eight, So I'm like you so like they get 1:35:45.240 --> 1:35:46.880 into it. You know what I'm saying. You you roll 1:35:46.960 --> 1:35:48.680 around in the car and I bought you with this bit, 1:35:50.200 --> 1:35:51.920 and I'm just sitting there just soaking it all in. 1:35:52.320 --> 1:35:54.559 It's hilarious to me at this I'm eight years old. 1:35:54.560 --> 1:35:56.720 It's hilarious, is funny said, because I didn't like to 1:35:56.760 --> 1:35:59.360 snik in no way. So I'm like, I'm I'm enjoying 1:35:59.400 --> 1:36:02.519 the fact that he's getting it. Remember his name, I 1:36:02.600 --> 1:36:04.720 ain't ain't gonna ain't. I ain't gonna get his ning. 1:36:05.280 --> 1:36:07.600 Not now. You caused tarum in my life where I 1:36:07.640 --> 1:36:11.439 wear hats because of you know, give you know credit, bro. No. 1:36:12.400 --> 1:36:16.840 But so the cat, like I vividly recalled this cat 1:36:16.960 --> 1:36:19.439 walking out of the house with that box, with all 1:36:19.479 --> 1:36:21.599 this stuff, and they're talking about you don't never find 1:36:21.880 --> 1:36:24.880 a little you're like little you know up today, You'll 1:36:24.880 --> 1:36:27.200 never find somebody little you like me, And it's like 1:36:27.479 --> 1:36:30.799 and all the aunties just just laughing, just dying laughing. 1:36:30.920 --> 1:36:32.439 And I wanted to be a part of the laughter 1:36:32.680 --> 1:36:34.040 like I was. I was eight years old. I just 1:36:34.439 --> 1:36:36.280 it was joy in the house and I wanted to 1:36:36.360 --> 1:36:38.360 be a part of that joy. So I'm laughing too. 1:36:38.400 --> 1:36:39.800 I don't know what the hell I'm laughing, and I'm 1:36:39.840 --> 1:36:44.200 just laughing with them, and I remember so fast forward 1:36:44.240 --> 1:36:47.880 to Stargate, I mean the studio with him and they 1:36:47.960 --> 1:36:50.439 played me at the beginning. It's just just the guitar, 1:36:50.640 --> 1:36:53.080 the guitar sound that you hear on a replaceable. It's 1:36:53.200 --> 1:36:56.400 just that initially, and I'm like, I wanted to country 1:36:56.439 --> 1:37:00.240 ship today and like, yeah, let's try this. Saw some 1:37:00.240 --> 1:37:02.640 country ship. So I'm listening to this ship and for 1:37:02.760 --> 1:37:05.559 whatever reason that that that that image of old boy 1:37:05.920 --> 1:37:08.639 talking at the crib with this box, with this cardboard 1:37:08.680 --> 1:37:11.400 box with all this ship in it just pops into 1:37:11.479 --> 1:37:14.600 my head. So so I wrote the song and I'm like, 1:37:14.680 --> 1:37:17.000 I'm like, but but this was this was my Auntie story. 1:37:17.280 --> 1:37:18.640 Let me try to flip it to where it's like 1:37:19.000 --> 1:37:20.920 like I'm telling the girl to leave because she did 1:37:21.000 --> 1:37:22.760 some foul ship or whatever, like, yeah, let me try that. 1:37:23.200 --> 1:37:24.840 So I wrote it like that. I wrote it in 1:37:24.960 --> 1:37:27.960 first person, like it's me telling the girl, awesome, you 1:37:28.080 --> 1:37:30.040 must not know I can have another U in a minute. 1:37:30.080 --> 1:37:32.479 Matter of fact, she'll be here in a minute. But 1:37:32.560 --> 1:37:34.080 then I listened back to the ship and I'm like, 1:37:34.120 --> 1:37:37.320 all right, at this point in life. The problem the 1:37:37.720 --> 1:37:41.880 majority of my fan basis female. Do chicks really want 1:37:41.920 --> 1:37:43.800 to hear me say I can have another U in 1:37:43.840 --> 1:37:45.679 a minute, matter of fact, she'll be here in a minute. 1:37:47.240 --> 1:37:51.960 Maybe not maybe not right? That's that? Yeah, like that 1:37:52.160 --> 1:37:56.080 that that ship comes across real mean, real misogynistic, you 1:37:56.120 --> 1:37:59.200 know what I'm saying. So but but then a little bit, 1:37:59.360 --> 1:38:04.280 a little bit, I'm sitting with starting and I'm like, yo, okay, 1:38:04.320 --> 1:38:08.200 so there's clearly something to this record, but this, this 1:38:08.280 --> 1:38:10.360 ship might not be for me, y'all. This we might 1:38:10.439 --> 1:38:12.160 need to we might need to get a female to 1:38:12.240 --> 1:38:15.200 sing this. Because if you take that same concept, that 1:38:15.320 --> 1:38:17.519 same lyric, I can have another U in a minute, 1:38:17.560 --> 1:38:19.600 matter of fact, he'll be here in a minute, and 1:38:19.720 --> 1:38:21.479 you give it. You let a chick sing, and it's 1:38:21.560 --> 1:38:26.120 it's it becomes empowering. You see a seeing women behind 1:38:26.200 --> 1:38:27.760 her with the fist of like, that's right, girl, we 1:38:27.760 --> 1:38:29.280 ain't gonna take it. Like you can see that ship. 1:38:29.800 --> 1:38:31.280 So I'm like, yeah, this, we might need to get 1:38:31.320 --> 1:38:34.479 this to a female. So basically, you sold men out, 1:38:35.640 --> 1:38:39.639 I mean, boyfriends and baby Daddy's all over the world 1:38:39.760 --> 1:38:41.599 was mad at me for a little while behind that ship. 1:38:41.680 --> 1:38:49.800 They was, they were let's listen all up. But at 1:38:49.840 --> 1:38:54.040 the end of the day, if I can't get if 1:38:54.080 --> 1:38:56.120 I can get in good with the smarter race, I'm 1:38:56.160 --> 1:38:59.680 problemnna do that. You can't. That's the start of this. 1:38:59.840 --> 1:39:06.200 That's that vision. I can't figure some sh out my wife, 1:39:06.320 --> 1:39:09.800 come and figure it out, because I was like, why 1:39:10.240 --> 1:39:12.040 the same ship? And then again, I can't hook up 1:39:12.040 --> 1:39:14.800 with Nintendo. You can't hook up with Nintendo. I don't 1:39:14.800 --> 1:39:17.320 know how to look up. I'm not the fact that 1:39:17.400 --> 1:39:22.280 you said Nintendo and not Xbox or he's still it 1:39:22.400 --> 1:39:24.639 speaks to the fact that you can't help Nintendo. Let's 1:39:24.680 --> 1:39:35.240 all good. You can't, so good, keep the like this 1:39:35.520 --> 1:39:39.960 is not worth Let's go on, let's go, Let's get 1:39:40.000 --> 1:39:42.760 that week guds going again. You met Michael Jackson. I 1:39:42.880 --> 1:39:47.960 met Michael Jackson. How was it? Um threal? Which Michael 1:39:48.040 --> 1:39:51.000 Jackson's What era of Michael Jackson is? I met my 1:39:51.120 --> 1:39:57.439 definitely white. I met Mike roughly eight months before he passed. 1:39:57.640 --> 1:40:00.200 Oh wow, yeah, that's when you first met. That's for 1:40:00.360 --> 1:40:06.360 the first first minute that so I get a phone 1:40:06.439 --> 1:40:10.880 call one day my personal cell phone. I'm actually in 1:40:10.960 --> 1:40:13.559 the car en route to rehearsal because he was getting 1:40:13.560 --> 1:40:15.640 we was gearing up to get on tour. So I 1:40:15.720 --> 1:40:18.160 get a call. I answered. The call is an unknown 1:40:18.240 --> 1:40:20.559 I normally don't answer unknown numbers, like if I don't 1:40:20.560 --> 1:40:23.040 got you saved in my phone, enough with you. But 1:40:23.160 --> 1:40:25.120 I answered this one just because on a humbug. I'm 1:40:25.120 --> 1:40:29.760 in the car. Whatever, So I pick it up. Hello, Hi, Hey, 1:40:30.920 --> 1:40:35.040 who is this? It's Michael because it was a crank caller. 1:40:35.640 --> 1:40:44.360 Michael Who Michael Jackson? All right, click because clearly somebody's 1:40:44.400 --> 1:40:46.640 working with me at this click. Somebody messing with me, right, 1:40:47.200 --> 1:40:49.680 So within five minutes of that phone call, I get 1:40:49.680 --> 1:40:52.080 another phone call from my assistant. At this point, he's like, Yo, 1:40:52.720 --> 1:40:55.160 so um are you sitting down? I'm like, I'm in 1:40:55.240 --> 1:40:57.040 the car. We're talking about it. It's like, Yo, Michael 1:40:57.120 --> 1:40:59.280 Jackson is about to call you and talk to you 1:40:59.280 --> 1:41:03.000 about some music. I'm like about to call me or 1:41:03.080 --> 1:41:06.680 already called me like ten minutes ago. Down. Oh she 1:41:06.760 --> 1:41:09.400 didn't already call you? Yeah? I hung up in his thinking, 1:41:09.600 --> 1:41:15.200 hung up on, Michael, you're being late with this call, baby, 1:41:15.320 --> 1:41:23.920 hang up with Michael was so so he calls me back, 1:41:24.360 --> 1:41:25.880 and of course our front. I'm like, yeah, you know, 1:41:25.920 --> 1:41:28.240 I was, I was, I was going under a bridge. 1:41:28.760 --> 1:41:33.080 We got this bad reception. But he was like he 1:41:33.200 --> 1:41:35.880 basically said, I would love to get in the studio 1:41:36.040 --> 1:41:40.640 and work with you. And I'm like, I'm literally not 1:41:40.880 --> 1:41:43.360 inside my body right now, Like, what do you want 1:41:43.400 --> 1:41:46.599 to work with me? Alright, cool, let's let's let's set 1:41:46.640 --> 1:41:48.160 it up. Let's get it together. You know there's people, 1:41:48.280 --> 1:41:50.720 call my people whatever. Whatever. He said, he wanted to meet. 1:41:50.760 --> 1:41:52.280 I want to I want to meet with you, and 1:41:52.320 --> 1:41:53.439 I want to talk to you about the kind of 1:41:53.520 --> 1:41:55.720 music I want to produce. So we set it up. 1:41:56.680 --> 1:41:58.760 We set up to meet at Leo Cohen's shout out 1:41:58.800 --> 1:42:01.040 to Leo Cohen. Up set up to me that Leo 1:42:01.120 --> 1:42:03.599 Cohen's crib because he wanted to meet somewhere private out 1:42:03.640 --> 1:42:05.839 the way, you know what I'm saying. And I completely 1:42:05.880 --> 1:42:12.800 understood that York in New York Y, so I don't 1:42:12.800 --> 1:42:19.080 I don't know, you get details. So I go. I 1:42:19.160 --> 1:42:22.760 go to Leo Cohen's house, whichever one it was in 1:42:23.040 --> 1:42:25.680 at the time, right, you know, we chopped up for 1:42:25.760 --> 1:42:27.760 him and he's like, he's here, he's just just going. 1:42:28.280 --> 1:42:30.320 He put me in like a study, like because because 1:42:30.360 --> 1:42:32.599 it's Leo Cohen, so he has a study in his house. 1:42:33.760 --> 1:42:36.479 He's there, he's yeah, he answered the door. It's there. 1:42:37.280 --> 1:42:39.479 So he puts me in the study, which is like 1:42:39.560 --> 1:42:41.760 a room three times besides of this room just full 1:42:41.800 --> 1:42:44.559 of books. It's Leo Cohen. All right, cool. So Michael 1:42:44.640 --> 1:42:46.880 Jackson walks in. He has on an all black suit, 1:42:47.120 --> 1:42:52.439 sup sup shirt, whole suit, he Nigga. So I'm gonna 1:42:52.479 --> 1:42:56.920 tell you, so I knew. I knew that Michael Jackson 1:42:57.000 --> 1:42:59.400 was like six ft tall, but like when he walked 1:42:59.439 --> 1:43:02.679 in the room, he's six ft tall. Michael jacks sick. Yeah, 1:43:02.680 --> 1:43:06.320 he's sixty six too big. His tall dude, Michael is 1:43:06.320 --> 1:43:08.800 a tall dude. Yeah right now, you didn't know that 1:43:09.920 --> 1:43:12.960 Michael Jackson was easily six ft tall. Yeah, tall dude. 1:43:13.439 --> 1:43:15.040 But when he walked in the room and Nigga was 1:43:15.080 --> 1:43:18.400 ten feet tall, Like like he walked in he had 1:43:18.479 --> 1:43:25.320 on these aviator the aviator glasses with the mirror joints though, 1:43:25.400 --> 1:43:28.280 like this ship that like the bike cops were like, 1:43:28.360 --> 1:43:30.439 you know, how fast you were going? Like them cops? 1:43:30.640 --> 1:43:32.960 He had on them ships right with the fucking with 1:43:33.120 --> 1:43:34.720 the with the whole ship on his wrist, like he 1:43:34.920 --> 1:43:37.680 broke his thumb with some ship. And he walks in 1:43:38.320 --> 1:43:40.719 and his first words to me are, oh my gosh, 1:43:40.760 --> 1:43:43.760 you know what my favorite song of yours is? Now? 1:43:43.920 --> 1:43:46.920 Mind you? Tom stops at this moment because I'm like, 1:43:47.040 --> 1:43:50.360 Michael Jackson is asking me if I know what his 1:43:50.520 --> 1:43:58.840 favorite song? This is Michael, he had like like an 1:43:58.920 --> 1:44:01.720 arm break, like a break some ship. Like like, I'm saying, 1:44:01.720 --> 1:44:03.439 that's that's on the left hand, the whole joint on 1:44:03.560 --> 1:44:09.120 the right glove finger with the whole joint with didn't 1:44:09.120 --> 1:44:10.760 have that on. You didn't have it on, Okay, So 1:44:10.920 --> 1:44:12.800 mind you. He says to me, oh my god, you 1:44:12.840 --> 1:44:14.840 know what my favorite song of yours is, and then 1:44:14.960 --> 1:44:18.400 the nigga commences to singing the song. Please don't worry 1:44:18.479 --> 1:44:21.280 about me. I'm fine with the hand pop on the 1:44:21.280 --> 1:44:23.559 whole line. Now. I never felt like a twelve year 1:44:23.560 --> 1:44:28.439 old girl in my life. In that moment, I was 1:44:28.479 --> 1:44:30.720 a twelve year old girl. Did you compose yourself? I 1:44:30.840 --> 1:44:33.360 kept I kept it cool, And I'm like, this is Mike. 1:44:33.479 --> 1:44:35.240 I can't. I can't fan out of front of this 1:44:37.360 --> 1:44:41.360 nor hands. No, I cannot this is Michael fucking Jackson. No, 1:44:41.439 --> 1:44:46.439 I gotta, I gotta maintain. But inside it was oh 1:44:46.520 --> 1:44:49.200 my god, I say my music, it was that inside, 1:44:49.560 --> 1:44:52.040 But I kept on the inside, right, So we said 1:44:52.120 --> 1:44:53.800 we talked for about an hour and a half, which 1:44:53.800 --> 1:44:57.920 is about music in general and how choreography looks like 1:44:58.160 --> 1:45:02.400 he said, he said, choreo your feet now looks like Calistenics. 1:45:03.960 --> 1:45:08.800 And I was like, okay, that's interesting. No, no, he 1:45:08.880 --> 1:45:11.080 was like. He was like, it's like people aren't dancing 1:45:11.160 --> 1:45:13.040 for the joy of dancing anymore. Like it looks it 1:45:13.120 --> 1:45:16.000 looks like a robix now. And I'm like, okay, okay, 1:45:16.120 --> 1:45:18.400 that's interesting. So so we talked about, you know, what 1:45:18.520 --> 1:45:20.000 he wanted to do with the next album, what he 1:45:20.040 --> 1:45:22.640 wanted to sound like the whole nine and uh, he 1:45:22.720 --> 1:45:25.800 gave me a phone number. So for the next like 1:45:26.000 --> 1:45:28.479 two weeks, I'm back and forth on the phone with 1:45:28.640 --> 1:45:33.120 Michael fucking Jackson. I'm sending him records. He's critiquing the records. 1:45:33.120 --> 1:45:35.599 They called me like, yo, I really love number three. 1:45:36.200 --> 1:45:38.960 Number three is so special, but I feel like the 1:45:39.040 --> 1:45:41.160 hook is just not right, Like if you just just 1:45:41.400 --> 1:45:44.400 just retouch the hook on number three, and like so 1:45:44.640 --> 1:45:47.800 so it's like about six records that me and Mike 1:45:48.040 --> 1:45:50.760 put together via just on the phone, just talking about 1:45:50.760 --> 1:45:52.760 the ship's right if she's to send in a hard driver. 1:45:53.080 --> 1:45:56.360 I've done nothing with him, but um, the plan was 1:45:56.439 --> 1:46:00.080 to get in and record these records after the so 1:46:00.320 --> 1:46:03.439 you saw the film, this is it. So after that tour, 1:46:03.880 --> 1:46:05.639 we were supposed to get in the record these records. 1:46:05.680 --> 1:46:07.720 And of course, you know, he passed before he even 1:46:07.720 --> 1:46:10.439 got a chance to do that tour. So yeah, so 1:46:10.640 --> 1:46:13.240 I still got the records. They're just sitting You're sitting 1:46:13.320 --> 1:46:14.639 waiting for me to figure out what the hell I'm 1:46:14.640 --> 1:46:17.479 gonna do with him. It's just it's never filed any 1:46:17.520 --> 1:46:19.439 of his no, no, no, so I saw it's all 1:46:19.479 --> 1:46:21.639 me on the vocals. But it's records that I wrote 1:46:21.680 --> 1:46:24.439 with Mike. The prep we was prepping them for him 1:46:24.520 --> 1:46:27.840 to get them after the tour. He died before the tour. 1:46:28.080 --> 1:46:30.479 We didn't get a chance to get him. So I 1:46:30.560 --> 1:46:34.920 got the records, and nothing feels right, if that makes sense, Like, 1:46:34.960 --> 1:46:36.680 it don't feel right to drop him as my own 1:46:36.720 --> 1:46:38.880 because I wrote them from Mike. Don't feel right to 1:46:38.920 --> 1:46:41.000 sell them because I wrote them from Mike. You know what, 1:46:41.080 --> 1:46:42.640 I mean, and I would never want the motherfucker to 1:46:42.680 --> 1:46:44.880 fix their mouth, to be like Neo trying to make 1:46:44.920 --> 1:46:46.960 some money off of Mike's name. If I just put 1:46:47.040 --> 1:46:49.160 them ships out like these as the records and me 1:46:49.200 --> 1:46:51.560 and Michael's gonna do before he passed, you know what 1:46:51.600 --> 1:46:53.680 I mean? So so I would you sell it to 1:46:53.760 --> 1:46:58.160 like Chris Brown or something like that would be crazy. 1:46:59.680 --> 1:47:01.960 All the love in the world to Chris Brown, all 1:47:02.040 --> 1:47:06.439 of that, But these records were written for Michael Jackson. 1:47:06.840 --> 1:47:09.920 I'm not putting another voice on his records. I'm not 1:47:10.160 --> 1:47:12.560 doing it. I can't. I personally can't do it. I 1:47:12.640 --> 1:47:14.920 can't do it. I can't do it, and I and 1:47:15.040 --> 1:47:18.920 I don't. I don't doubt that that Chris or or 1:47:19.080 --> 1:47:21.880 Bruno Mars and some elements were smashed these ships, I 1:47:21.880 --> 1:47:23.960 don't doubt it at all. But the fact that I 1:47:24.040 --> 1:47:26.920 wrote them for Mike, intended for Mike and Mike's voice, 1:47:26.960 --> 1:47:30.000 I can't. I can't. I can't tell you my Mike story. 1:47:30.080 --> 1:47:34.200 I've never met Mike, but um for roll called me. 1:47:35.400 --> 1:47:38.040 This is the most exciting for Rolls every story man, 1:47:38.360 --> 1:47:40.720 and and It's and and It's life. He called me, 1:47:40.800 --> 1:47:44.560 and It's like, yo, Mike called us and said that 1:47:44.640 --> 1:47:47.760 he wants records from us. So it's like, yo, that's 1:47:47.800 --> 1:47:50.639 fucking dope. He said, we seen them all these fucking 1:47:50.680 --> 1:47:54.720 records and if it goes so, then were seen on 1:47:54.800 --> 1:47:56.800 these records. And then Mike gets on the phone with 1:47:56.920 --> 1:48:00.280 us and says, no, we don't want this, we want something. 1:48:00.360 --> 1:48:05.760 Nor we wild wrapped one, nor would wrap one. I 1:48:05.840 --> 1:48:08.880 want super Doug, but nor wouldn't rap on it. Don't 1:48:09.479 --> 1:48:11.200 You didn't know that till for real said it, right? No? 1:48:11.479 --> 1:48:13.439 I did not on the show. No, no, no, I 1:48:13.520 --> 1:48:16.880 knew that because he called He called me. He was like, 1:48:17.040 --> 1:48:22.560 how I would walk around knowing that. I was like, 1:48:22.640 --> 1:48:34.639 oh yeah, just having Mike reference from oh yeah, I'm 1:48:34.680 --> 1:48:45.040 taking a show that now, Yeah, thank you. Okay, look 1:48:45.120 --> 1:48:49.320 that's different. Yeah, that's different. That's yo. The whole Fellers. 1:48:49.880 --> 1:48:55.960 So it was crazy. The whole concept of the people 1:48:56.040 --> 1:48:58.800 comparing like Drake to Michael Jackson. People are preparing Chris 1:48:58.920 --> 1:49:03.799 to Michael Jackson. It's a compliment. It's an absolute compliment, 1:49:03.840 --> 1:49:06.839 and I hope the book has taken it as such. However, 1:49:09.120 --> 1:49:12.880 how dare you like the numbers that this man was 1:49:12.960 --> 1:49:16.200 doing at the time that he was doing them. Mind you, 1:49:16.320 --> 1:49:20.720 this is before YouTube, Spotify, all these different things that 1:49:20.880 --> 1:49:23.080 allows the whole world to get the music. At the 1:49:23.120 --> 1:49:26.280 same time, that ship didn't exist when Michael was doing 1:49:26.360 --> 1:49:29.200 what he was doing, and the numbers that he was doing, 1:49:29.320 --> 1:49:32.280 Like even if you matching Mike's numbers right now, it's like, 1:49:32.400 --> 1:49:34.840 you still can't compare NI because you're doing it right now. 1:49:35.560 --> 1:49:40.280 Do that in the eighties the video market, Come on, 1:49:41.560 --> 1:49:45.320 there is no comparison. That's not You can never say 1:49:45.360 --> 1:49:47.800 that talent ain't going to exist after Michael Jackson yet, 1:49:47.960 --> 1:49:50.160 sure of course. So let me just tell you. So. 1:49:50.320 --> 1:49:52.439 The funny thing is so all the records that he 1:49:52.560 --> 1:49:56.600 made for Mike, he gave the Justini I know I 1:49:56.720 --> 1:50:00.639 heard that, and and one of them the baby face, 1:50:02.080 --> 1:50:06.759 so it's crazy. And then he was basically telling me, Laurie, 1:50:06.840 --> 1:50:08.960 I need you to pick these beats for me, Like 1:50:09.120 --> 1:50:11.960 I had to kind of go pick the worst beats 1:50:13.520 --> 1:50:16.160 because because you know, I like, I like gangs, this, 1:50:16.520 --> 1:50:17.920 I like, you know what I mean. And that was 1:50:17.960 --> 1:50:19.560 an honor though it was it was it was a 1:50:19.680 --> 1:50:21.240 real honor. But I never got to meet Mike. At 1:50:21.280 --> 1:50:24.479 least you got to know that Mike was sitting somewhere 1:50:24.520 --> 1:50:31.360 in the world like I need something like this, call it, 1:50:31.760 --> 1:50:44.600 then call it. There's no bigger accolade than that. But 1:50:45.000 --> 1:50:50.160 that might be the best Michael Jackson depression. Other people tried, 1:50:50.280 --> 1:50:57.720 but I believed him. Just now listen, this is this 1:50:57.880 --> 1:51:00.800 is the machine. We are trying to get everyone in 1:51:00.880 --> 1:51:03.920 the room high because we are good people and I'm not. 1:51:04.439 --> 1:51:06.640 Can I tell you how genius of a concept this 1:51:06.760 --> 1:51:10.400 whole show is because you you already know you're dealing 1:51:10.439 --> 1:51:13.560 with artists, artists coming in there with the politically correct like, 1:51:13.720 --> 1:51:17.280 let me they got, they got The answer to your 1:51:17.360 --> 1:51:19.720 question is already set, like I'm gonna say this as 1:51:19.800 --> 1:51:22.439 to not to say that, and you get him a 1:51:22.520 --> 1:51:28.800 fucking and you get him drunk. You listen, you're gonna 1:51:28.800 --> 1:51:32.240 say the real ship the girls want, not you don't 1:51:32.320 --> 1:51:35.720 talk to real ship. Genius concept. But by the way, 1:51:35.880 --> 1:51:38.120 me and him was in the locker room with you guys, 1:51:38.800 --> 1:51:40.760 I mean, work your records. I worked for them, Jim. 1:51:41.920 --> 1:51:48.679 So he's a real real DJ, re create DJ motherfuckers 1:51:48.720 --> 1:51:54.960 with the c driving you know what I mean. He's 1:51:55.000 --> 1:51:57.120 that type of any gigs who worked your records to 1:51:57.280 --> 1:51:59.920 the part of the Street Team. Nowords too as well. 1:52:00.240 --> 1:52:02.200 So now only is a DJ. He he ran the 1:52:02.280 --> 1:52:05.800 street team. So and then me, I was, I'm a 1:52:05.880 --> 1:52:07.960 real artist. Like I'm a real artist. I don't know 1:52:07.960 --> 1:52:10.400 what I got platform blacks, you know what. I don't 1:52:10.400 --> 1:52:16.120 want to reproduce your fan So I'm fancies. Don't tell 1:52:16.160 --> 1:52:18.560 me you staff somebody to come porn. I mean I 1:52:18.680 --> 1:52:22.160 thought about it. You heard of many that may consider right, 1:52:22.240 --> 1:52:24.439 but now I didn't go there. But so that's the 1:52:24.520 --> 1:52:26.960 reason why. Like, and you know what it is. Oh, 1:52:27.800 --> 1:52:31.519 bring it on, bring it on rental. It's gonna make 1:52:31.600 --> 1:52:39.760 him talk more. Yeah, the way you do it is hilarious. Yea. 1:52:39.840 --> 1:52:41.679 I need one of them ships at the crib bl 1:52:43.200 --> 1:52:44.800 you know what I'm saying. I need I need this 1:52:44.920 --> 1:52:47.720 ship set up to the A C system in my house. 1:52:48.120 --> 1:52:50.320 A C. Oh. So when you walk in my house, 1:52:51.320 --> 1:52:56.600 no choice but to take the shoes. He went to 1:52:56.680 --> 1:52:59.880 the room. He went to the room, cleanse the rooms. 1:53:00.000 --> 1:53:03.799 At this stage, Nig's gonna be in the house. Honest. 1:53:04.600 --> 1:53:07.360 I don't know why. I don't know why. I just 1:53:07.400 --> 1:53:09.400 gotta tell you the truth right now. Then we gotta 1:53:09.439 --> 1:53:20.360 take a shot. Yo. I was having a uh, I 1:53:20.479 --> 1:53:24.400 was having a conversation just recently, what somebody about about 1:53:24.439 --> 1:53:26.680 the state of R and B. State of R and B. 1:53:27.040 --> 1:53:28.680 You know, the album is out, so everybody want to 1:53:28.720 --> 1:53:29.960 talk to me about the state of R and B. 1:53:31.360 --> 1:53:34.760 And I had I had a realization, like in the 1:53:35.000 --> 1:53:39.040 in the midst of this of this question. So you 1:53:39.120 --> 1:53:41.439 know that, like right this second, hip hop is the 1:53:41.520 --> 1:53:45.080 biggest genre of music in the world period, in the world, 1:53:45.479 --> 1:53:47.960 right and it's been that for like the last few years. 1:53:48.920 --> 1:53:52.479 So when that happened, because before that it was like 1:53:52.600 --> 1:53:55.320 what it was rock or country or some ship. But 1:53:55.400 --> 1:53:57.599 then it then it happened with hip hop, and then 1:53:57.640 --> 1:54:00.680 all of a sudden, every other genre gets the hip 1:54:00.720 --> 1:54:04.400 hop makeover. Now we got trap country records, you know, everything, 1:54:05.200 --> 1:54:10.479 everything has gotten trap country basically. That's that's I mean, 1:54:10.520 --> 1:54:11.960 that's how it started. I don't know what you call 1:54:12.040 --> 1:54:15.960 him now, but that's how it started. So it occurred 1:54:16.000 --> 1:54:19.000 to me that like, yo, everything got like a hip 1:54:19.080 --> 1:54:23.679 hop makeover. When hip hop became the most special genre 1:54:23.720 --> 1:54:25.880 of music on the face of the planet, R and 1:54:25.960 --> 1:54:29.080 B included, and you look at the new generational R 1:54:29.160 --> 1:54:31.200 and B and what and how they do what they do. 1:54:31.520 --> 1:54:34.920 And mind you, some people have issue with today's R 1:54:34.960 --> 1:54:37.000 and B because it don't feel like R and B 1:54:37.080 --> 1:54:39.040 in the nineties and nineties was the last time R 1:54:39.080 --> 1:54:42.000 and B had its own identity like traditional, It wasn't 1:54:42.440 --> 1:54:45.800 the ugly cousin of hip hop right kind of what 1:54:45.960 --> 1:54:48.200 it is now. So but you look at the new 1:54:49.040 --> 1:54:52.080 the new generation that's coming up, and you look at 1:54:52.280 --> 1:54:55.160 what they're coming coming up on. They're coming up on 1:54:55.280 --> 1:54:58.400 hip hop. So of course that even they R and 1:54:58.520 --> 1:55:01.600 B is gonna feel like hip hop because they came 1:55:01.680 --> 1:55:04.960 up looking up to the hip hop niggas. So you 1:55:05.040 --> 1:55:07.960 know when people actually like the whole concept of the 1:55:08.120 --> 1:55:10.800 vulnerability of R and B and what that was like 1:55:11.280 --> 1:55:13.080 we we we came up in the air where niggas 1:55:13.120 --> 1:55:15.200 was begging on the record and that was what it was. 1:55:15.320 --> 1:55:18.320 That was what it was like, Baby baby please was 1:55:18.440 --> 1:55:21.640 what it was. You know what I'm saying, We're singing 1:55:21.680 --> 1:55:24.600 and the wife beat up like this is what it was. 1:55:25.880 --> 1:55:28.240 But these young cast is coming up off of the 1:55:28.360 --> 1:55:32.000 hip hop niggas. They want to be that, you know 1:55:32.000 --> 1:55:34.240 what I'm saying. It's like, all right, I say, and 1:55:34.280 --> 1:55:36.920 I gotta be that. And that's a blurry line something 1:55:37.080 --> 1:55:39.480 I'm not even saying. The R and B. They straight 1:55:39.800 --> 1:55:43.520 rapping with auto tune, really right, it's rapping to a melody, 1:55:44.040 --> 1:55:45.160 a lot of a lot of the R and B 1:55:45.360 --> 1:55:47.840 right now. But but it's like, I can't be mad 1:55:47.920 --> 1:55:49.640 at them because I have to look at where they're 1:55:49.680 --> 1:55:52.640 coming from, what they're coming up, listening to who they're 1:55:52.640 --> 1:55:55.800 coming up on. Hip Hop became the biggest genre music 1:55:55.880 --> 1:55:58.800 in the world, so not everybody is paying paying attention 1:55:58.880 --> 1:56:01.440 to hip hop. So no matter what genre you doing, 1:56:02.400 --> 1:56:05.000 you got hip hop right here. So even if it's 1:56:05.040 --> 1:56:06.680 if it's country, if it's R and B, if it's 1:56:06.720 --> 1:56:10.080 if it's if it's uh, if it's Spanish, whatever the fuck, 1:56:10.480 --> 1:56:12.200 it's going to have a hip hop element to it 1:56:12.320 --> 1:56:22.960 because everybody sucks with hip hop. Take a selfies, what happened? No, no, no, no, 1:56:23.080 --> 1:56:27.240 no no. So I can't be mad at these names 1:56:27.320 --> 1:56:30.280 for that. I can't be mad because cats ain't singing 1:56:30.320 --> 1:56:31.960 the way they were singing when I was coming up. 1:56:32.040 --> 1:56:34.360 You know, I grew up on fucking boys man in 1:56:34.520 --> 1:56:38.560 jeto see. And you also sunk in church a little bit, 1:56:38.640 --> 1:56:42.840 a little bit like church, like church. No disrespected church, 1:56:42.880 --> 1:56:46.520 no respected religion in Christian Christianity would have a m 1:56:47.560 --> 1:56:49.720 I went to church with my grandmother because I had 1:56:49.760 --> 1:56:51.440 to go to church with my grandmother because she was 1:56:51.480 --> 1:56:55.200 not accepting the kids not being in church on Sunday. 1:56:56.120 --> 1:56:59.760 I am a spiritual person. I believe in God. I 1:57:00.040 --> 1:57:04.960 don't so much lock into commercial religion, not really, you 1:57:05.000 --> 1:57:07.040 know what I'm saying. I know that God exists. I 1:57:07.160 --> 1:57:09.320 know that there's a power higher than myself. I know 1:57:09.480 --> 1:57:11.440 that I felt a hand on my back though my 1:57:11.760 --> 1:57:14.040 entire life. You know what I'm saying, so many different 1:57:14.080 --> 1:57:15.760 situations where I was supposed to be sucked up and 1:57:15.800 --> 1:57:18.880 I wasn't because of his hand on my back. Right, 1:57:19.160 --> 1:57:21.880 So I know that that exists. The fine print of 1:57:21.960 --> 1:57:24.200 it is where it is where it gets questionable to me, 1:57:24.320 --> 1:57:27.240 because I know that the nature of man, you know 1:57:27.280 --> 1:57:30.200 what I'm saying, and and and man is about control, 1:57:30.400 --> 1:57:32.680 is about power. And if I can say something to 1:57:32.760 --> 1:57:36.520 you that's gonna make you let me control you, I'm 1:57:36.560 --> 1:57:39.520 gonna say that as the human being. You know what 1:57:39.560 --> 1:57:41.200 I mean. So, so that's so that's what makes me 1:57:41.320 --> 1:57:49.280 go spirituality, God, Sure, Christianity, UH, Catholicism. All of these 1:57:50.000 --> 1:57:54.000 these commercial choices, all of these, all of these businesses. Ye, 1:57:55.440 --> 1:57:57.200 I'm in, but I'm not in, you know what I mean. 1:57:57.480 --> 1:58:00.240 I ain't gonna never show on what nobody believes. You 1:58:00.280 --> 1:58:01.480 know what I'm saying. At the at the end of that, 1:58:01.520 --> 1:58:03.800 if it's if it's making you smile, rock by all 1:58:03.920 --> 1:58:06.280 means rock, and who am I to take that from you? 1:58:07.160 --> 1:58:10.360 But at the same time, I'm not going to sit 1:58:10.440 --> 1:58:14.320 up and feel like my destiny, vert uh past, this 1:58:14.520 --> 1:58:18.080 life is determined on whether or not I apply to 1:58:18.160 --> 1:58:20.720 your fucking program, you know what I mean? Like it 1:58:20.800 --> 1:58:23.360 ain't it ain't that for me. I'll talk to guy personally. 1:58:23.480 --> 1:58:26.120 I'll sit by myself and talk to God. I don't 1:58:26.160 --> 1:58:28.920 need to go to your building every Sunday and put 1:58:29.000 --> 1:58:31.280 on my Sunday best and watch the women in the 1:58:31.320 --> 1:58:33.520 hats talk crazy about me when I walk away, Like, 1:58:33.600 --> 1:58:35.280 I don't have to do that. I don't have to 1:58:35.320 --> 1:58:36.840 give you ten percent of what the hell I what 1:58:36.960 --> 1:58:39.720 the hell I worked hard for to prove that I 1:58:39.840 --> 1:58:43.320 believe in a higher power. That's not that's not necessary. 1:58:43.760 --> 1:58:46.120 As parts of the Bible that will tell you churches 1:58:46.120 --> 1:58:48.160 two or three four two three, two or three and 1:58:48.680 --> 1:58:51.840 joined in my presence. That's church. Church could be your money. 1:58:51.880 --> 1:58:53.960 Gotta go over there. Yeah, I do all that. I 1:58:54.000 --> 1:58:56.480 ain't gotta sit back and feel judged by y'all because 1:58:56.480 --> 1:58:58.760 I ain't been here in months. You know what I'm saying. 1:58:58.760 --> 1:59:06.480 It's like you see Neo in here praise God whenever 1:59:06.520 --> 1:59:09.440 the last time we saw him praise God. I'm not. 1:59:09.520 --> 1:59:11.200 I don't got to sit through that. I ain't got 1:59:11.240 --> 1:59:12.760 to deal with all that. You know what I'm saying, 1:59:13.440 --> 1:59:15.160 Me and my wife, my kids will sit down and 1:59:15.200 --> 1:59:17.280 pray and then have a conversation about the higher power. 1:59:17.320 --> 1:59:19.720 And that's the church. Were good good, you know what 1:59:19.720 --> 1:59:21.960 I'm saying. That's me go back to your training. Thought 1:59:22.000 --> 1:59:23.840 though you were talking about, Oh yeah, I'm drunk, so 1:59:23.880 --> 1:59:25.520 I'm under tangent. What was I talking? You were talking 1:59:25.520 --> 1:59:27.600 about like that. You grew up on Jody C Boys 1:59:27.680 --> 1:59:31.600 de Man, right, I grew up on R and B Cats. 1:59:32.240 --> 1:59:33.960 You know what I'm saying. Jody C was in leather 1:59:34.360 --> 1:59:36.640 in the desert talking about I'll cry for you and 1:59:36.720 --> 1:59:39.400 then got on stage at the MTVV the Music Awards 1:59:39.440 --> 1:59:43.600 and masks and machete's like this Thuggist ship. Ever, Stuggists 1:59:43.680 --> 1:59:46.040 R and B Ever, however, and Niggas was like, do 1:59:46.160 --> 1:59:48.960 you believe in love and the power that it gives? Right? 1:59:49.320 --> 1:59:51.200 I grew up on that. I didn't grow up on 1:59:51.960 --> 1:59:54.120 what some of the newer generation is coming up on it. 1:59:54.400 --> 1:59:56.440 So I can't fault them for the way that they 1:59:56.520 --> 1:59:59.320 do what they do because they're following the ship that 1:59:59.440 --> 2:00:02.480 inspired in them, you know what I mean. Like people 2:00:02.480 --> 2:00:03.720 are like, how do you feel about what do you 2:00:03.760 --> 2:00:05.800 feel about the state of R and B right now? 2:00:06.080 --> 2:00:08.440 And I think back to like my uncle's and how 2:00:08.520 --> 2:00:10.280 my uncle's used to run up on me and my friends, 2:00:10.320 --> 2:00:13.560 Like that ain't real music now, listen is bullshit? You 2:00:13.760 --> 2:00:16.360 just listen to listen to that, And it's like I've 2:00:16.480 --> 2:00:19.600 become my uncle's to my son's, you know what I mean. 2:00:19.800 --> 2:00:23.920 Like I'm listening to what they listening to like a 2:00:24.120 --> 2:00:26.760 ship what they are right now? My old my older 2:00:26.840 --> 2:00:29.200 son is nine. He's weird. So it's some other some 2:00:29.280 --> 2:00:32.720 other ship. But it's not music to me. It's like, Okay, 2:00:32.760 --> 2:00:35.040 so there's there's some game and I'm about to give 2:00:35.040 --> 2:00:37.320 your props. You should send me a check. Uh, there's 2:00:37.360 --> 2:00:41.280 this game called Friday Night Funking, right it's a it's 2:00:41.280 --> 2:00:45.440 a video game. But in the video game, the characters 2:00:45.520 --> 2:00:50.960 are quote unquote battle rapping against each other. But it's 2:00:51.000 --> 2:00:54.560 no lyrics. It ain't even words. It's just sounds and 2:00:54.680 --> 2:01:01.840 beeps and ship. Yeah. And my son's loves this ship 2:01:02.520 --> 2:01:04.440 to where they feel like this is a battle rap 2:01:04.480 --> 2:01:10.280 and I'm like, son, just so lost, oh so lost, 2:01:10.800 --> 2:01:13.120 but they love this ship and I'm like, that is 2:01:13.240 --> 2:01:15.720 not battle rap. What are you doing? What are you 2:01:16.200 --> 2:01:18.800 And and instantly I'm like, oh ship, I'm My uncle's 2:01:19.280 --> 2:01:21.400 sitting listening to me and my friends listen to what 2:01:21.480 --> 2:01:25.480 we listened to, like Nigga, that ain't music, earth fire 2:01:26.600 --> 2:01:29.800 if it's legit just noises. That's not being uncle, mind 2:01:29.880 --> 2:01:32.720 you mind you to my uncle's What I was listening 2:01:32.760 --> 2:01:36.680 to at the time was just just I don't know, man, 2:01:36.800 --> 2:01:39.920 I think of a Niggai group on Earth win and 2:01:39.960 --> 2:01:43.520 fire and listening to dos effects, no no facts. That's yeah, 2:01:43.560 --> 2:01:45.360 that makes sense, you feel me so so so it's 2:01:45.440 --> 2:01:48.640 it's the same thing. It's secular. All this ship happens 2:01:49.040 --> 2:01:51.280 in cycles. I'm looking at my son's like, yo, that 2:01:51.360 --> 2:01:53.800 ain't music, And instantly my uncle's popping in the back 2:01:53.840 --> 2:01:55.920 of my head, like, Yo, that ain't music, and I'm like, fuck, 2:01:56.360 --> 2:01:59.720 it's music to him. It's music to him, And what 2:01:59.840 --> 2:02:02.400 the funk he decided to do with music behind? This 2:02:02.960 --> 2:02:05.960 is going to come from this inspiration and I can't. 2:02:06.040 --> 2:02:09.120 I can't. I can't shoot on him for that. I 2:02:09.240 --> 2:02:12.080 can't talk. I can't talk bad. I can't talk down 2:02:12.200 --> 2:02:14.680 for him for that because that's my uncle's talking down 2:02:14.760 --> 2:02:16.800 for me, down to me for listening to the docs 2:02:16.840 --> 2:02:19.680 effects talking the far side of ship, like when he 2:02:20.160 --> 2:02:21.560 was on Earth, Wind and Fire and all of that. 2:02:22.440 --> 2:02:24.960 So I can't. I can't fault him for it. But 2:02:25.040 --> 2:02:27.680 at the same time, I can also go, you know what, Okay, 2:02:27.680 --> 2:02:31.360 all right, that's music, but this is music too, the 2:02:31.440 --> 2:02:35.080 way your mom and your aunt put on the exactly exactly. 2:02:35.200 --> 2:02:37.720 So that's that's the that's the place I'm taking right now. 2:02:38.000 --> 2:02:40.200 But just to hold just to sit back and realize 2:02:40.760 --> 2:02:43.840 that this ship is secular. Like like, so, I got 2:02:43.920 --> 2:02:48.360 five kids. My oldest is twelve, my girls twelve, my 2:02:48.520 --> 2:02:53.080 youngest is one, and I find myself saying things to 2:02:53.160 --> 2:02:56.320 my kids that my mama said said to me, like 2:02:56.480 --> 2:02:58.840 the second I said it's like, yo, I remember this 2:02:59.480 --> 2:03:02.720 to the point we're like, I gotta call my mom Like, yo, yo, 2:03:02.800 --> 2:03:07.960 I'm sorry. I apologize because you was literally just really 2:03:08.040 --> 2:03:10.920 just trying to figure it out, like just trying to 2:03:11.000 --> 2:03:13.320 make it make sense as you went alone, Like you 2:03:13.520 --> 2:03:15.840 was really on that because I'm in this ship, like, oh, 2:03:16.480 --> 2:03:19.080 how do I in this climate make sure that my 2:03:19.240 --> 2:03:22.960 young prince understands that he's a young prince? You feel me? 2:03:24.160 --> 2:03:27.760 How do I do that right now when when he's 2:03:27.760 --> 2:03:30.080 being bombarded with everything else? Like how do I do that? 2:03:30.240 --> 2:03:32.280 And so so. Yeah, I literally had to call my 2:03:32.360 --> 2:03:37.920 mom ast Yo. I appreciate the way that you made 2:03:37.960 --> 2:03:40.640 it make sense, even if it barely made sense to 2:03:40.720 --> 2:03:42.480 you in the moment, you made it make sense to me. 2:03:42.560 --> 2:03:44.680 And I appreciate that because I'm going through it right 2:03:44.720 --> 2:03:50.680 now and that ship is hard. It's hard. I'm sorry, 2:03:50.760 --> 2:03:58.200 I'm drunk. You're living living at different times. Yo. Bob's 2:03:58.240 --> 2:04:02.320 cart telling a spice flipped your miss independent. Yeah, did 2:04:02.400 --> 2:04:06.080 you clear it? I didn't not clear it, but the 2:04:06.200 --> 2:04:10.280 star the streets cleared it right away, which which made 2:04:10.320 --> 2:04:12.600 it virtually impossible for me to not clear it even 2:04:12.640 --> 2:04:14.360 if I was thinking about not clearing it, which, by 2:04:14.400 --> 2:04:17.200 the way, I was never thinking about not clearing it. 2:04:18.480 --> 2:04:22.640 I'm saying, first and foremost, before the song was presented 2:04:22.680 --> 2:04:25.600 to me, the concept of vibes Cartel and who he 2:04:25.840 --> 2:04:28.880 was was presented to me like this is that dude? 2:04:29.800 --> 2:04:32.600 Oh and by the way, he did this with your song. 2:04:32.840 --> 2:04:34.760 It was presented to me like that. So I'm like, so, 2:04:35.400 --> 2:04:38.320 what are we talking about right now? Of course it's fine. 2:04:39.680 --> 2:04:41.960 Why would I have a problem with this? To this day, 2:04:42.240 --> 2:04:44.760 I can't, like you know, I can't be over there 2:04:45.120 --> 2:04:49.080 and perform misindependent without showing, without giving props to what 2:04:49.240 --> 2:04:53.960 the funk he did? You know what I'm saying? Yeah, man, 2:04:54.080 --> 2:04:57.280 like you created a whole another vibe and essence off 2:04:57.320 --> 2:04:59.640 of this ship that I was trying to do. I 2:04:59.760 --> 2:05:04.040 got give you love for that. Yeah. Like, uh, I 2:05:04.160 --> 2:05:06.320 think his name is a Monti White, Mony White. He 2:05:06.440 --> 2:05:11.720 did my song over nothing on boy Um and I 2:05:11.840 --> 2:05:14.280 co signed it to you. You gotta have to bro, 2:05:14.880 --> 2:05:17.640 you gotta realize it's a whole. It's it's generations coming 2:05:17.760 --> 2:05:21.720 behind you, like generations on generations on generations, and if 2:05:21.760 --> 2:05:23.720 you decide to not let nobody funk with what you 2:05:23.800 --> 2:05:25.440 did because it's what you did, and you can have 2:05:25.520 --> 2:05:28.600 this pride about it. Them generations don't get it. Them 2:05:28.720 --> 2:05:30.680 generations don't get to experience it. They don't get to 2:05:30.840 --> 2:05:32.720 enjoy it. They don't get to they don't get to 2:05:32.760 --> 2:05:35.280 know who Noriega was, you know what. But but but 2:05:35.600 --> 2:05:38.840 I don't always co sign everything. I mean, of course 2:05:38.840 --> 2:05:40.600 I can't lie to you. I can't look at you're 2:05:40.600 --> 2:05:44.080 looking for. I can't because there's been a certain records 2:05:44.120 --> 2:05:46.960 that sample like there's certain people that be like, yo, 2:05:47.040 --> 2:05:49.360 this is this is no real or whatever, and they're 2:05:49.400 --> 2:05:52.320 trying to like like immulate me, and I don't like it, 2:05:54.680 --> 2:05:59.000 but they shouldn't that. Why would you okay some ship 2:05:59.120 --> 2:06:01.320 that that's a whacker version of what you did? Why 2:06:07.000 --> 2:06:10.960 I wouldn't do if certain records I do love um 2:06:11.520 --> 2:06:15.320 Um Flow right of the artists she did, super dog Over, 2:06:15.720 --> 2:06:20.680 I approved it, um Amani White Billy Irish, I approved it. 2:06:21.280 --> 2:06:25.240 But let us say everything does that like I hate 2:06:25.280 --> 2:06:28.160 when someone touches bad from TV. From TV is my 2:06:28.280 --> 2:06:32.360 record with Big Pun. Pun will never be able to 2:06:32.480 --> 2:06:35.280 come and redo this again. So why the fund would 2:06:35.280 --> 2:06:36.880 you do it? Yeah? You know what I'm saying, So 2:06:37.000 --> 2:06:39.640 don't touch So I won't. I won't if anything from 2:06:39.720 --> 2:06:42.640 bad from TV, I won't clear if Beyonce sample man 2:06:42.720 --> 2:06:54.960 from TV is good he got do you know right now, 2:06:58.000 --> 2:07:01.320 y'all such and such from whatever? Not but that But 2:07:01.440 --> 2:07:03.480 that's also what I like though. I like when a 2:07:03.600 --> 2:07:06.840 person take the record and make it their own. When 2:07:06.880 --> 2:07:09.680 they take it and try to remake minds, that's what 2:07:09.880 --> 2:07:12.600 makes me angry. Same ships like, So, I rather you 2:07:12.760 --> 2:07:15.280 take it and you don't reproduce it like like like 2:07:15.480 --> 2:07:17.840 remix it or complimented like make something else. No, So 2:07:17.960 --> 2:07:19.680 it's it's the plight of it's the plight of a 2:07:19.840 --> 2:07:23.600 a songwriter that is also an artist, which you know, 2:07:23.800 --> 2:07:26.120 back day every hip hop artist was. If you was 2:07:26.160 --> 2:07:29.160 writing your own lyrics, you're a songwriter and an artist, right. 2:07:29.560 --> 2:07:31.760 So somebody come along and want to sample something that 2:07:31.880 --> 2:07:34.160 you did. If you're not gonna take it and take 2:07:34.200 --> 2:07:37.560 if you're not gonna bring it to another level, leave 2:07:37.560 --> 2:07:39.720 it the funk alone, Because why would I ever want 2:07:39.760 --> 2:07:41.640 the last memory of my ship to be the whack 2:07:41.680 --> 2:07:43.880 ship that you created? Why would I ever want that 2:07:43.960 --> 2:07:46.040 to be? Nah? I wanted to when they think of 2:07:46.080 --> 2:07:47.200 my ship, I don't want them to think of the 2:07:47.720 --> 2:07:50.000 greatness that I brought to it. Now, if you're gonna 2:07:50.040 --> 2:07:53.600 add to that greatness, yeah, rock out ba all means, 2:07:54.000 --> 2:07:56.120 but you ain't for to bring my ship down. It 2:07:56.200 --> 2:07:58.000 ain't gonna lead people back to the rand. It's like, 2:07:58.120 --> 2:07:59.400 you know, I used to funk with this song and 2:07:59.440 --> 2:08:01.080 it's such as sample and I was like, fun that 2:08:01.160 --> 2:08:10.520 song that happened. That's true, that's real. I'm like real ship. 2:08:13.120 --> 2:08:16.560 So as a songwriter, I always respect the artists that's 2:08:16.600 --> 2:08:19.080 gonna take this ship and make it their's Beyonce. Like, 2:08:19.160 --> 2:08:22.520 if you listen to my demo of Irreplaceable and listen 2:08:22.600 --> 2:08:26.000 to Beyonce is Irreplaceable, you hear slight differences, you'll hear 2:08:26.000 --> 2:08:29.080 the nuances that make that ship a Beyonce record. Right, 2:08:29.560 --> 2:08:31.800 she didn't follow what I did to the fucking t 2:08:32.720 --> 2:08:35.840 because for all that, nigga, let me keep it and 2:08:35.920 --> 2:08:38.280 let me just do it myself. So I always have, 2:08:38.360 --> 2:08:40.560 I always have. I've always had the utmost respect for 2:08:40.560 --> 2:08:42.520 the artist is gonna take it and make it. There's 2:08:43.040 --> 2:08:45.280 you know what I'm saying, Like, it's don't don't don't 2:08:46.280 --> 2:08:48.040 don't do it just for the fucking take of doing it, 2:08:48.720 --> 2:08:50.840 because you're working with my legacy. Like that. You know 2:08:50.880 --> 2:08:53.080 what I'm saying. Like the last time somebody heard my 2:08:53.120 --> 2:08:55.280 ship was on some white ass remix. That's something did 2:08:55.360 --> 2:08:57.800 because he just felt felt like it. No, I'm not. 2:08:58.000 --> 2:09:01.200 I'm not rocking with Da Nola's time you heard a 2:09:01.200 --> 2:09:05.040 remix of my ship was something that Beyonce touched. Mie 2:09:05.080 --> 2:09:09.400 Floss Life Floss. Yeah, you know what I mean. Difference. 2:09:09.640 --> 2:09:17.240 How about Prince You ever met Prince? Yes? Yes, yes, Lesten. 2:09:18.840 --> 2:09:20.800 I live on this planet, in this and in this 2:09:21.000 --> 2:09:24.120 realm of reality with everybody else. Prince could fly. I 2:09:24.120 --> 2:09:27.160 don't get with nobody. Everyone says this motherfucker could deny, 2:09:27.320 --> 2:09:34.240 could defy gravity anyone. Everyone said so. It's right after 2:09:35.160 --> 2:09:37.720 Year and a Gentleman, which was my biggest album ever, 2:09:38.000 --> 2:09:41.480 right next album Leabre Scale. I go into the label, 2:09:41.520 --> 2:09:43.120 I tell them, yo, I want to do like a 2:09:43.240 --> 2:09:46.240 thirty minute like mini movie and let the album be 2:09:46.360 --> 2:09:48.360 the soundtrack to the movie. And they're like, Yo, that's 2:09:48.400 --> 2:09:52.080 a dope idea, let's do it. Mind you this. I'm 2:09:52.120 --> 2:09:54.880 fresh off the heels of Red Tails. I did red 2:09:54.920 --> 2:09:57.960 Sales with with George Lucas Life Flex, and then I 2:09:58.080 --> 2:10:05.880 did uh Battles with George Lucas George star Wars. George 2:10:05.960 --> 2:10:08.640 Lucas said, I want to pick up the Red Tails, 2:10:08.720 --> 2:10:13.960 the Tuskegee Airman, the Black, the Black Fleet of fighters 2:10:14.160 --> 2:10:17.080 in the Air Force. So he did Red Tails and 2:10:17.120 --> 2:10:18.360 then let me be a part of that, and that 2:10:18.440 --> 2:10:21.280 she was amazing. She was beautiful. So I'm fresh off 2:10:21.320 --> 2:10:23.600 the hills of that, and I come into the label excited, like, Yo, 2:10:23.840 --> 2:10:25.560 I'm off this movie ship. I want to do some 2:10:25.640 --> 2:10:27.200 movie ship. I want to do like a thirty minute 2:10:27.200 --> 2:10:29.080 movie and let the album beet the soundtrack. This is 2:10:29.160 --> 2:10:32.600 what lever Scale was supposed to be. What I didn't 2:10:32.640 --> 2:10:36.480 realize that in the realm of screen and script writing, 2:10:37.120 --> 2:10:41.280 a page equates to a minute, right, so one page 2:10:41.360 --> 2:10:43.240 is one minute. I told him I want to do 2:10:43.360 --> 2:10:46.080 like a thirty minute mini movie. I brought them a 2:10:46.080 --> 2:10:49.320 script with a hundred forty five pages in it. It 2:10:49.440 --> 2:10:51.640 was like, that's that's that's not a mini movie to 2:10:51.720 --> 2:10:54.120 teach your film what what the funk are you doing? 2:10:54.480 --> 2:10:56.520 So my mind, I didn't know. I didn't know this. 2:10:57.120 --> 2:10:59.000 So I learned that through that process. Al right, cool. 2:10:59.040 --> 2:11:00.440 So I had to take this hun of forty five 2:11:00.440 --> 2:11:02.280 pages and busted down the thirty. By the time I 2:11:02.400 --> 2:11:04.800 figured out how to do that, the clock is ticking. 2:11:04.840 --> 2:11:06.800 We gotta get this ship out. We don't have time 2:11:06.880 --> 2:11:10.200 to cast and shoot a whole fucking movie for thirty minutes. 2:11:10.520 --> 2:11:15.080 So all right, let's do Let's do six long form videos. Right. 2:11:15.360 --> 2:11:18.560 So you got you got Champagne Life, you got uh, 2:11:18.720 --> 2:11:22.200 you got beautiful Monster, you got one in a million. 2:11:23.120 --> 2:11:25.000 One are the million ins with it to be continued. 2:11:25.280 --> 2:11:27.920 That never continues because Devin jam was like, Nigga, we 2:11:27.960 --> 2:11:29.440 don't give you no more money for this ship, Like 2:11:29.560 --> 2:11:32.400 this is nuts because mind you, I'm literally just do 2:11:32.680 --> 2:11:35.360 I'm figuring it out as I go along, right, and 2:11:35.400 --> 2:11:37.080 they rock you with me. They let me do it 2:11:37.160 --> 2:11:40.600 because like you're the Genleman was like, I ain't get 2:11:40.600 --> 2:11:44.480 what you wanna do, and and I'm just really figuring 2:11:44.520 --> 2:11:47.240 the ship out as I go. So the album didn't 2:11:47.240 --> 2:11:49.240 perform well, you know, and the singles did I but 2:11:49.280 --> 2:11:51.200 the album didn't perform when I was fucked up about it. 2:11:52.320 --> 2:11:56.200 That same year, we get invited to Prince's Grammy party. 2:11:56.640 --> 2:11:58.560 Prince used to throw a party at his house for 2:11:58.640 --> 2:12:01.760 the Grammys. Every everything purple. There was a lot of 2:12:01.840 --> 2:12:06.480 purple there was an I'll say there was an overabundance 2:12:06.920 --> 2:12:09.600 of purple, and not everything was purple. But if it 2:12:09.680 --> 2:12:11.400 was ten ships in the room, not at them ships 2:12:11.480 --> 2:12:15.360 was purple. Anyway, So I go to we go to 2:12:15.440 --> 2:12:18.520 the party. We're in the pool house, right because it's paid, 2:12:18.760 --> 2:12:21.040 it's it's the spot, and in this pool house and 2:12:21.080 --> 2:12:24.160 there's like a plex glass ship or we're literally standing 2:12:24.200 --> 2:12:26.040 on top of the swimming pool. And I just think 2:12:26.080 --> 2:12:27.840 this is the coolest ship ever because I'm a little 2:12:27.880 --> 2:12:30.560 green at this point. But anyway, Prince is on the 2:12:30.680 --> 2:12:34.280 stage with his band rocking out, just just all some 2:12:34.480 --> 2:12:37.120 freestyle and just rocking out, crooning, just just rocking out 2:12:37.160 --> 2:12:40.560 and playing his guitar. He sees me, he puts his 2:12:40.640 --> 2:12:43.840 guitar down and be line straight to me. He gets 2:12:43.960 --> 2:12:46.120 right up on my ear because because this is how 2:12:46.160 --> 2:12:48.880 Prince speaks to you. If you've ever talked, if you've 2:12:48.880 --> 2:12:51.040 ever spoken to Prince, you know this. He'll get real 2:12:51.160 --> 2:12:53.440 close so that he don't gotta talk real loud. He 2:12:53.520 --> 2:12:55.760 got right up on my air and he said Leebra 2:12:55.800 --> 2:12:58.080 Scale was a good album and don't let anybody tell 2:12:58.120 --> 2:13:01.920 you different, and walked away and say ship to me 2:13:01.960 --> 2:13:03.480 for the rest of the night. That's all they say 2:13:03.520 --> 2:13:08.760 to me. The whole night. I was fucked up about 2:13:08.840 --> 2:13:10.800 Leabra Scale, like I really wanted it to be really 2:13:10.880 --> 2:13:13.720 good and it wasn't good, and it was it was 2:13:13.800 --> 2:13:16.800 performing poorly the whole nine and you know, the label 2:13:16.880 --> 2:13:19.080 is trying to be nice about ship, but the ship 2:13:19.200 --> 2:13:22.320 is not working. He walked up to me and was like, yo, 2:13:22.600 --> 2:13:25.120 Libra Scale is a good album, and don't let anybody 2:13:25.200 --> 2:13:27.280 tell you different. I was like, nig we could go 2:13:27.400 --> 2:13:29.960 double wood. I don't give a fuck. Prince said that 2:13:30.080 --> 2:13:38.960 this is a good album straight princess, so I wouldn't. 2:13:39.720 --> 2:13:42.400 That was a great moment. That's that's that's one print story. 2:13:43.200 --> 2:13:45.840 I really wasn't trying to get you to take another shot. 2:13:46.240 --> 2:13:47.920 We gotta take a shot to that print story. We 2:13:48.000 --> 2:13:50.600 have to take the shot. Print story. I'm sorry, I'm 2:13:50.640 --> 2:13:55.200 sorry you disrespect for this because you know what, Oh, 2:13:58.480 --> 2:14:01.160 I'm gonna take and then went the whole was like, 2:14:04.120 --> 2:14:06.760 but now self explanatory, I'm gonna take a piss, guys, 2:14:06.800 --> 2:14:12.760 I'll be back. That's the most humbling, disrespectful statement that 2:14:15.080 --> 2:14:18.600 it's humble because it's like, yeah, I shouldn't know but 2:14:18.960 --> 2:14:24.000 it's disrespectful because it's like straight up, straight up and 2:14:24.080 --> 2:14:27.920 that was the intend um did I hit it on? 2:14:28.160 --> 2:14:35.200 Pretty much? Okay? So I called. I called the album 2:14:35.480 --> 2:14:39.160 for a couple of reasons. As as I said earlier 2:14:39.360 --> 2:14:42.760 in this in this whole situation, I've always prided myself 2:14:42.920 --> 2:14:47.320 on my my products speaking for itself. I don't got 2:14:47.400 --> 2:14:49.040 to sit here and sell you on what the funk 2:14:49.120 --> 2:14:51.200 I do. I don't got to sit him brag to 2:14:51.280 --> 2:14:55.320 you about what I've done. I can push play and 2:14:56.240 --> 2:14:59.080 that is going to be enough for you to understand 2:14:59.160 --> 2:15:00.960 who I am, what I am, how I am, how 2:15:01.040 --> 2:15:04.240 I rocked right. So that and then on top of that, 2:15:04.800 --> 2:15:08.000 I think it's been it's been sixteen, it's been almost 2:15:08.040 --> 2:15:11.000 twenty years at this point. Do you really need like 2:15:11.760 --> 2:15:15.280 a full on explanation to a neo album at this 2:15:15.560 --> 2:15:17.680 point in the game, you know what I'm saying. So 2:15:18.680 --> 2:15:21.840 it's like, neo music is music to live life too, 2:15:22.040 --> 2:15:27.440 write be it be it the nigga you just broke 2:15:27.520 --> 2:15:29.680 up with, or the chicken just broke up with, or 2:15:29.920 --> 2:15:33.240 the new love that you just found, or it's Sunday 2:15:33.240 --> 2:15:35.520 and you just want to clean the crib or it's 2:15:35.560 --> 2:15:37.800 Saturday and you're gearing up to go out and turn up. 2:15:38.200 --> 2:15:41.120 There's not an aspect of life that you can name 2:15:41.520 --> 2:15:43.760 that you can't put a neo song too and allow 2:15:43.880 --> 2:15:48.080 that song to be the soundtrack to that moment. And 2:15:48.200 --> 2:15:49.800 that's and that's how I rock, and that's how I've 2:15:49.800 --> 2:15:52.480 always rocked, and this album is kind of a celebration 2:15:52.560 --> 2:15:58.360 of that. Straight up. My flexes light blow, my flexes light. 2:15:58.560 --> 2:16:00.920 I ain't gonna you know, I don't gotta point the 2:16:00.960 --> 2:16:03.760 diamonds out, but when you see him, goddamn you feel me. 2:16:04.040 --> 2:16:09.280 That's what I said. I gotta put it out. Any 2:16:09.400 --> 2:16:12.880 song that you wrote for somebody and gave him and 2:16:12.960 --> 2:16:17.520 that you regretted that, I was like, damn. This is 2:16:17.560 --> 2:16:20.040 a question that has been popping up a lot lately, 2:16:20.640 --> 2:16:23.600 and I can only think of, really and truly one 2:16:23.800 --> 2:16:26.400 instance where it happened like that. And I don't like 2:16:26.520 --> 2:16:28.520 talking about it because people like to take ship and 2:16:28.600 --> 2:16:31.400 turn it into hate. And I'm not hating because I 2:16:31.560 --> 2:16:33.240 love this nigga. You know what I'm saying. This is 2:16:33.320 --> 2:16:36.040 my guy shout out to my man Luke James. We 2:16:36.120 --> 2:16:39.199 did a record together, right, well, mind you, we didn't 2:16:39.240 --> 2:16:41.920 necessarily do a record together. It was a record that 2:16:42.000 --> 2:16:44.440 I wrote, and he fused with it, and he was 2:16:44.520 --> 2:16:46.720 like and he sucked with his people fun with it. 2:16:46.800 --> 2:16:50.280 It was like, Yo, let's let's cut this on Luke James, right, 2:16:50.520 --> 2:16:52.200 And I was all for it because Luke James one 2:16:52.240 --> 2:16:55.320 of the dopest voices right now period. The nigga is dope. 2:16:55.640 --> 2:16:59.240 So I'm like, yeah, let's do it. So the song 2:16:59.760 --> 2:17:02.640 was the way that I did. The song was in 2:17:02.720 --> 2:17:07.080 a key and a pitch higher then Luke James regularly sings. 2:17:07.800 --> 2:17:10.440 So they took the song and they dropped it down 2:17:10.520 --> 2:17:14.280 to a key that was comfortable for Luke James. Now, 2:17:14.480 --> 2:17:16.960 anybody that knows anything about music, when you take a 2:17:17.040 --> 2:17:19.720 song and you dropped the key, you take a city, 2:17:19.760 --> 2:17:22.000 you take a little bit of energy from the record, 2:17:22.560 --> 2:17:24.560 you know what I'm saying. And in the case of this, 2:17:24.800 --> 2:17:27.800 it was exactly that. It was like what the record 2:17:27.959 --> 2:17:31.320 was versus what the record became. It just wasn't as good, 2:17:31.760 --> 2:17:34.160 And I felt away because I'm like, fun man, for 2:17:34.280 --> 2:17:36.200 all of that, we could have just gotten a lab 2:17:36.240 --> 2:17:39.200 and did some did something from scratch, you know what 2:17:39.240 --> 2:17:42.160 I'm saying, Because again, a funk with Luke James's my guy. 2:17:42.520 --> 2:17:44.320 The name of the joint was was making Love to Me? 2:17:45.160 --> 2:17:48.280 And if you listen to my demo of it and 2:17:48.360 --> 2:17:50.560 then you listen to his version of it, you see 2:17:50.600 --> 2:17:52.720 how many keys they dropped it down, and it just 2:17:53.120 --> 2:17:55.000 it just didn't make the song work for what it 2:17:55.080 --> 2:17:57.600 was supposed to be, you know what I mean. So again, 2:17:57.959 --> 2:18:00.720 all love to Luke James. This is not a dead Okay, 2:18:01.040 --> 2:18:03.160 fuck any blog that's trying to turn this into a disc. 2:18:03.400 --> 2:18:05.560 It's not that I got love for Luke James. I 2:18:05.640 --> 2:18:08.280 love that dude, but that particular song just didn't become 2:18:08.320 --> 2:18:09.879 what it should have been. You know what I mean? 2:18:10.280 --> 2:18:12.200 Is that a risk? Because when you write a song 2:18:12.320 --> 2:18:15.560 for somebody, is it is it? Is it you laying 2:18:15.720 --> 2:18:18.240 your your vocals down and then sending it to them 2:18:18.560 --> 2:18:22.680 Because if this ever comes out, now, this is your 2:18:23.440 --> 2:18:27.039 what do they call that ship? Uh? Your reference track? 2:18:27.800 --> 2:18:29.840 So it has that ever been a problem for you 2:18:29.959 --> 2:18:32.680 because you gotta you gotta realize like hip hop and 2:18:32.760 --> 2:18:35.840 hip hop, because if I don't move them and being 2:18:35.920 --> 2:18:42.600 myself could have done at the same time, look at 2:18:42.640 --> 2:18:44.880 me crazy. Let's just let's just take the band aid 2:18:44.920 --> 2:18:49.039 off the thing right, UM and R and B yes, 2:18:49.520 --> 2:18:52.879 you know um having someone help you with your your stuff. 2:18:53.200 --> 2:18:58.680 It's not not at all, But so is that? Has 2:18:58.720 --> 2:19:00.680 that ever been a problem for you? Like you're sitting 2:19:00.720 --> 2:19:04.240 in reference tracks and maybe the engineer got mad at 2:19:04.320 --> 2:19:08.880 somebody and sent it out. Now, the version that Neo 2:19:09.040 --> 2:19:14.240 just did for Selee Dion, it's out there, and it's 2:19:14.280 --> 2:19:18.000 Neo's version as opposed to Slean Dion's version. Like I'll 2:19:18.000 --> 2:19:20.440 just give your example. Have you ever had a ranto 2:19:20.480 --> 2:19:24.000 a problem? Like? Um, it never became a problem, but 2:19:24.120 --> 2:19:26.520 it was a It was a lesson to learn in 2:19:26.600 --> 2:19:30.760 the realm of uh songwriting and trying to shop records. 2:19:31.240 --> 2:19:35.440 So if I write a record, right, I I can sing. 2:19:35.560 --> 2:19:37.520 So if I write a record, I'm gonna sing the 2:19:37.600 --> 2:19:41.800 reference to that record. Not every songwriter right can sing 2:19:42.200 --> 2:19:45.560 get somebody else to sing it. But the smart songwriter 2:19:46.520 --> 2:19:49.440 is gonna tell the person referencing the record to keep 2:19:49.480 --> 2:19:53.240 it as basic and minimal as humanly possible. Because what 2:19:53.360 --> 2:19:55.120 you don't want to do, You don't want to outsing 2:19:56.280 --> 2:19:58.080 the pression that you're trying to shop it to you 2:19:58.160 --> 2:19:59.760 know what I mean? Like you want to you want 2:19:59.760 --> 2:20:01.240 to keep and you want to keep it in a 2:20:01.320 --> 2:20:04.880 realm where the person listening to it can hear whether 2:20:04.959 --> 2:20:08.000 they can bring to it in order to make it 2:20:08.360 --> 2:20:10.680 their record. You know, if you're going there and you're 2:20:10.680 --> 2:20:13.280 doing all the libs and you're singing this ship like you, 2:20:13.480 --> 2:20:15.480 like you're trying to audition for the Ship to be 2:20:15.560 --> 2:20:18.440 your record, you're probably not gonna sell that joint. Even 2:20:18.480 --> 2:20:20.680 if it's dope, even if it's amazing, You're not gonna 2:20:20.720 --> 2:20:23.280 sell that record because nobody's gonna listen to it and 2:20:23.360 --> 2:20:26.560 be able to hear themselves on it. They can only 2:20:26.640 --> 2:20:29.920 hear you, right, So it's only it's only ever really 2:20:30.000 --> 2:20:32.280 been that, you know. I had to I had to 2:20:32.400 --> 2:20:35.040 learn that. Uh. I had to learn that early on 2:20:35.160 --> 2:20:38.879 because in the beginning writing the record, I'm excited about 2:20:38.920 --> 2:20:41.160 the ship and I'm singing that, I'm doing the harmonies 2:20:41.200 --> 2:20:43.400 and the lives and I'm doing this ship like like 2:20:43.520 --> 2:20:46.720 it could potentially be my record, to where it's like 2:20:47.120 --> 2:20:50.280 people people are listening to it and giving it the 2:20:50.400 --> 2:20:52.600 love and giving it the respect, but nobody wants to 2:20:52.680 --> 2:20:55.080 buy it because it's like this, this is your record, 2:20:55.160 --> 2:20:57.600 this is you, you know what I mean. So it's 2:20:57.600 --> 2:21:00.440 always only been that. That's that that type of situation. 2:21:01.320 --> 2:21:06.199 Let's talk about crazy with jay Z. How man, how'm 2:21:06.280 --> 2:21:12.080 this happened? Oh so so l a read signed me 2:21:12.320 --> 2:21:16.880 to death Jam And it was right when jay Z 2:21:17.120 --> 2:21:24.439 had become president of Death Chance. Jay Z is president, 2:21:25.360 --> 2:21:30.040 he's my friend. I can say he took anybody the whole. 2:21:30.280 --> 2:21:32.120 He took the whole label budget, and nobody had a 2:21:32.120 --> 2:21:40.200 budget of that. Dog. I just so. I mean when 2:21:40.240 --> 2:21:43.320 I when I first met jay Z, uh when I 2:21:43.440 --> 2:21:45.880 first got to deal and I don't mean where then was. 2:21:45.920 --> 2:21:47.800 I think it was in the l A office and 2:21:49.280 --> 2:21:51.960 I walked to the age to jay Z and I, 2:21:52.440 --> 2:21:55.080 you know, I extend my hand and he he shakes 2:21:55.120 --> 2:21:57.120 my hand. But his first words to me it was like, Nigga, 2:21:57.120 --> 2:22:00.320 why you get that song away? I don't. And he's 2:22:00.320 --> 2:22:03.600 talking about Marios. You should let me love you like Nicka, 2:22:03.600 --> 2:22:06.080 Why you get that song away? Not hey, how you doing? 2:22:06.160 --> 2:22:08.160 Welcome to the label, none of that ship. Nigga, why 2:22:08.200 --> 2:22:10.800 you get that song away? It was that and and 2:22:11.120 --> 2:22:13.680 and that kind of like set the set the tone 2:22:13.800 --> 2:22:17.520 for like our entire relationship. Like jay Z has always 2:22:17.600 --> 2:22:22.320 been that dude that's gonna just keep it funky about whatever, 2:22:22.600 --> 2:22:24.000 you know what I'm saying. That was a point where 2:22:24.000 --> 2:22:28.120 I was questioning, questioning my worth and my value in 2:22:28.200 --> 2:22:30.640 the game because I hadn't reached the level of some 2:22:30.879 --> 2:22:33.800 of some of my peers. And he and jay Z 2:22:33.959 --> 2:22:36.840 said to me, He's like, Nigga, you will never not 2:22:37.040 --> 2:22:39.959 be all right because you can always right yourself out 2:22:40.000 --> 2:22:43.440 of whatever situation. Regardless of what's going on with you. 2:22:43.800 --> 2:22:46.480 You can always right your way out like you have. 2:22:46.959 --> 2:22:49.960 You have that. It's cats out here that couldn't write 2:22:49.959 --> 2:22:52.000 a song that will sing, that will sing the ship 2:22:52.080 --> 2:22:54.120 out of a song, but couldn't write a song if 2:22:54.160 --> 2:22:56.400 their life depending on it, That person is depending on 2:22:56.520 --> 2:22:59.680 somebody to write a song for them. You're not that 2:23:00.080 --> 2:23:01.920 and you will never be that dude, So you'll never 2:23:02.040 --> 2:23:04.560 be fucked up. You'll never be in a position that 2:23:04.640 --> 2:23:07.040 you can't get out of. And like I took that 2:23:07.080 --> 2:23:08.480 ship to heart, you know what I mean, Like he 2:23:08.680 --> 2:23:11.400 like he's he's always been that dude to me, Like 2:23:11.800 --> 2:23:22.800 I'm doing yeah, yeah, reasons to take shots, Like I'm 2:23:22.840 --> 2:23:25.480 sitting over here trying to be cordial, but you over here, 2:23:26.879 --> 2:23:29.560 like listen, there there's a reason that I got to 2:23:29.640 --> 2:23:31.520 the levels that I got to because I had some 2:23:31.640 --> 2:23:34.840 of the most amazing motherfucker's in my corner in my 2:23:35.000 --> 2:23:37.800 ear telling me how to move, you know, from from 2:23:37.920 --> 2:23:40.040 jay Z to l A. Reid to you know, to 2:23:40.200 --> 2:23:42.800 my Nigga Tango to Sean like it was it was 2:23:42.879 --> 2:23:46.280 people around me that genuinely wanted to see me win. 2:23:46.440 --> 2:23:49.280 And I feel like that's rare nowadays, you know what 2:23:49.320 --> 2:23:51.680 I'm saying. I had people in my corner that was like, Nah, 2:23:51.800 --> 2:23:54.440 we want to see this dude get there, and we're 2:23:54.440 --> 2:23:56.400 gonna make sure that he has the tools that he 2:23:56.520 --> 2:24:00.040 needs to get there. Like I've never not recogned, not 2:24:00.120 --> 2:24:02.560 eyes that, you know what I'm saying, Like, like I 2:24:02.840 --> 2:24:05.440 know that this ship don't happen for everybody, and you know, 2:24:05.600 --> 2:24:07.800 for this, for the way that it does happen for 2:24:07.840 --> 2:24:12.400 certain people, it's it's it's always uh, it's always something interesting, 2:24:12.480 --> 2:24:14.360 it's always something traumatic, you know what I'm saying. Like 2:24:15.120 --> 2:24:18.640 my journey from where I was to where I am 2:24:19.760 --> 2:24:24.360 has been paved in fucking gold bro and I don't, 2:24:24.440 --> 2:24:27.960 I don't, I do not not recognize that as a 2:24:28.040 --> 2:24:30.680 blessing because it don't happen like that for everybody, So 2:24:31.160 --> 2:24:39.520 it's a blessing. I appreciate everybody. For you. I'll run 2:24:39.600 --> 2:24:46.800 for that for you. Meal, You're a remarkable motherfucker. You're impeccable. Motherfucker. 2:24:48.080 --> 2:24:50.880 You out here, you got hits after hits. Not only 2:24:50.959 --> 2:24:54.560 you got hits for yourself, you got features with other people. 2:24:54.640 --> 2:24:59.520 That's hits. And then you have writing you're right for 2:25:00.040 --> 2:25:04.440 mother motherfucker. That's crazy. They try to give me the 2:25:04.520 --> 2:25:07.720 right for another fucker. I was too lazy, Like you 2:25:07.840 --> 2:25:15.640 gotta like shot because what is exactly you gotta do 2:25:15.720 --> 2:25:17.840 the right for motherfucker. You gotta hang out with them. 2:25:18.080 --> 2:25:25.000 You gotta have no listen, you don't gotta either. If 2:25:25.080 --> 2:25:28.440 you are blessed with the opportunity to sit and talk 2:25:28.520 --> 2:25:31.600 to the artists that you're writing for, that's a blessing, bro, 2:25:31.840 --> 2:25:34.880 because like in the beginning, the beginning to talk to 2:25:34.920 --> 2:25:39.040 you writing records and hoping that somebody here that ship 2:25:39.160 --> 2:25:41.320 and can't relate to it, like you ain't had no 2:25:41.680 --> 2:25:44.240 inside track on who this person is, what this person 2:25:44.240 --> 2:25:46.680 is going through, how this person would deal with X 2:25:46.800 --> 2:25:49.160 y Z situations. You don't know none of that with 2:25:49.320 --> 2:25:51.680 with those situations where you're not with them. Are you 2:25:51.800 --> 2:25:55.280 writing general records where you right yere like they're just 2:25:55.440 --> 2:25:58.120 like these general records that are gonna work. I have 2:25:58.200 --> 2:26:01.320 always tried to lock myself in two things that are timeless, 2:26:01.920 --> 2:26:04.400 things that are never gonna go anywhere. The sound of 2:26:04.480 --> 2:26:06.880 a piano that ship ain't gonna go out of style, 2:26:07.400 --> 2:26:09.680 the sound of a guitar, the sound of a drum 2:26:09.760 --> 2:26:12.039 that ship ain't will never go out of style. Love 2:26:12.320 --> 2:26:14.680 as a feeling, as an emotion, as a topic, and 2:26:14.800 --> 2:26:18.280 gonn never go out of style. Anybody love love? Yeah, 2:26:18.879 --> 2:26:20.720 if you felt it, if you've never felt it, if 2:26:20.720 --> 2:26:22.480 you're craving it, you you ain't never felt that you 2:26:22.520 --> 2:26:24.400 want to feel it? You have felt it, you know, 2:26:24.480 --> 2:26:26.640 the black, white and gray that ship, That ship will 2:26:26.680 --> 2:26:29.760 never go away. It's water, bro, It's just it's kind 2:26:29.800 --> 2:26:32.800 of needed and necessary for us to survive. Right So 2:26:32.920 --> 2:26:36.480 I've always locked myself into things that I felt like, 2:26:36.560 --> 2:26:39.480 we're never gonna go away, you know. And that's the 2:26:39.520 --> 2:26:41.959 way that you that's the way that you stay timeless. 2:26:42.840 --> 2:26:45.440 I don't I don't, I don't pay I pay attention 2:26:45.520 --> 2:26:49.560 to trend, but I don't lock into trend, you know 2:26:49.600 --> 2:26:52.240 what I mean? Music is always going to evolve and 2:26:52.360 --> 2:26:56.240 expand and change as times change, as the people producing 2:26:56.280 --> 2:26:59.240 the music change. It's never gonna stay the same, you 2:26:59.280 --> 2:27:03.560 know what. Concept Actually, it could be consistent conceptually, it 2:27:03.640 --> 2:27:05.560 could because people are always going to go through what 2:27:05.600 --> 2:27:13.279 they're gonna go through, but they're they're uh their description 2:27:13.360 --> 2:27:15.560 of that or there or there there the art that 2:27:15.640 --> 2:27:18.280 they create based on that, it's always going to change 2:27:18.320 --> 2:27:21.080 with the times, you know what I mean. So so 2:27:21.240 --> 2:27:26.400 I've I've always kind of prided myself on being being flexible, 2:27:26.560 --> 2:27:29.160 like I can't not be me. I'm gonna be me, 2:27:29.640 --> 2:27:31.520 Like even in even in this new album, this is 2:27:31.560 --> 2:27:34.680 the self explanatory album, there are out there are songs 2:27:34.760 --> 2:27:37.680 on this album that are classic Neo. If you've been 2:27:37.680 --> 2:27:40.280 a Neo fan from since, in my own words, you're 2:27:40.320 --> 2:27:43.360 gonna relate to these records right right the funk away right. 2:27:44.320 --> 2:27:48.400 But there's also out records on this album that are 2:27:48.760 --> 2:27:52.800 me acknowledging the fact that the times have changed, the 2:27:52.920 --> 2:27:56.520 sound has changed, the vibe has changed. I can never 2:27:56.640 --> 2:27:59.600 not be me, I'm always be me. But I'm but 2:27:59.760 --> 2:28:02.240 I'm even me that I can apply to whatever. I've 2:28:02.280 --> 2:28:04.280 always been flexible. I've always been able to move in 2:28:04.360 --> 2:28:08.280 and make sense with whatever's going on. And and though 2:28:08.560 --> 2:28:11.440 those records, you know, so to the die hard Neo fan, 2:28:12.000 --> 2:28:15.440 you know, these are new records to you because you're 2:28:15.440 --> 2:28:18.280 accustomed to a certain sound from Neo. I just need 2:28:18.320 --> 2:28:20.280 you to jump into this album with an open mind. 2:28:20.440 --> 2:28:24.760 Just jump into this album anticipating quality, because even if 2:28:24.800 --> 2:28:26.840 you don't so much understand what the music is doing, 2:28:27.160 --> 2:28:29.320 even if it's not so much your bag, even if 2:28:29.360 --> 2:28:31.520 it's not so much your cup of tea, you will 2:28:31.600 --> 2:28:34.160 never ever be able to deny the quality. I do 2:28:34.320 --> 2:28:36.720 that for y'all. I make sure that my ship is 2:28:36.840 --> 2:28:40.200 quality period, so that at the end of the day, 2:28:40.320 --> 2:28:43.160 if you can't say nothing else, you can say that 2:28:43.200 --> 2:28:46.560 sh sounded amazing, like that's that's how I rock. Sorry, 2:28:49.560 --> 2:28:52.240 are you? Are you composing the music as well? Are 2:28:52.280 --> 2:28:55.199 you composing music as well? To a to a degree, 2:28:55.520 --> 2:28:59.800 to a degree. Uh. There's a a group of producers 2:28:59.840 --> 2:29:02.360 that I work with. I don't even I don't it's 2:29:02.360 --> 2:29:04.280 not even fair to call them producers. I call them 2:29:04.360 --> 2:29:06.800 composers because these are the kind of cast that you 2:29:06.840 --> 2:29:08.680 can tell them that you have an idea that sounds 2:29:08.760 --> 2:29:11.000 like this, and they go take that idea and run 2:29:11.080 --> 2:29:14.240 with it as opposed to giving you these are these 2:29:14.280 --> 2:29:16.040 are kind of tracks I do. And that's just what 2:29:16.200 --> 2:29:19.000 I do. You know what I'm saying. I've always I've 2:29:19.040 --> 2:29:24.120 always had an appreciation for the versatile, versatile producer. You know, 2:29:24.200 --> 2:29:26.200 I can give you hip hop ship, I can give 2:29:26.240 --> 2:29:29.320 you some quote unquote neo soul ship, I can give 2:29:29.360 --> 2:29:33.680 you some this like, yeah, all of it. Because at 2:29:33.680 --> 2:29:36.200 the end of the day, I'm a I'm a I 2:29:36.280 --> 2:29:39.200 can apply me to whatever, nigga. I could do a 2:29:39.240 --> 2:29:41.400 fucking rock song. I could do a poker record if 2:29:41.440 --> 2:29:44.600 I felt like I could apply me to a poker record, 2:29:44.640 --> 2:29:49.920 straight up. Yeah, not the not the game. Wooden Shoes, 2:29:50.400 --> 2:29:54.480 Wooden Shoes and Netflix. Yeah check it out, you see 2:29:55.040 --> 2:29:58.160 yeah don't Yeah, I seen it. Yeah they started it. 2:30:00.120 --> 2:30:05.920 We'll talking about off air alright. Look um the fabulous 2:30:06.040 --> 2:30:10.520 record make Me Better, Make You Better that was recorded 2:30:10.600 --> 2:30:15.640 for jay Z written when I did that hook, I 2:30:15.800 --> 2:30:19.360 was in the studio with jay Z and and I'll 2:30:19.440 --> 2:30:22.800 never forget this session because I had always heard that 2:30:23.040 --> 2:30:26.640 jay Z doesn't write anything down. I had heard that, 2:30:26.920 --> 2:30:29.640 like multiple times, like he's not a cat that will 2:30:29.680 --> 2:30:32.240 sit because because there was a point in my career 2:30:32.280 --> 2:30:33.840 where I was a slave to a pen and pad. 2:30:33.920 --> 2:30:35.360 I had to write it down. I had to, I 2:30:35.440 --> 2:30:37.920 had to be able to visualize. I could see it. 2:30:38.720 --> 2:30:40.920 So I'm in a studio with Jay and the beat 2:30:41.040 --> 2:30:43.280 is playing and it's a beat from Timberland. Shout out, 2:30:43.600 --> 2:30:46.600 shout out to Timberland. And he's like, what what you 2:30:46.720 --> 2:30:49.160 hear to this? I'm like, all, give me a minute. 2:30:49.480 --> 2:30:51.920 So I sit with my pad and pen and I write. 2:30:52.959 --> 2:30:54.680 I'm sitting there trying to figure out what to right. 2:30:55.240 --> 2:30:56.800 And as I'm sitting there trying to figure it out, 2:30:57.120 --> 2:31:01.080 Beyonce comes to the studio and they find and they 2:31:01.160 --> 2:31:03.240 kind of like find a corner and like dip off 2:31:03.360 --> 2:31:07.000 from everybody. This is Sony Studios in New York. She 2:31:07.120 --> 2:31:09.440 won't exist, you know what I'm talking about, My nigga 2:31:09.879 --> 2:31:12.800 and she don't exist no more. But so much history 2:31:12.920 --> 2:31:15.320 was made in that building. So we're in that building 2:31:15.800 --> 2:31:19.480 and it's J and B in the corner like nigger. 2:31:19.520 --> 2:31:21.040 It might as well not have been nobody else in 2:31:21.120 --> 2:31:23.800 the because they just they just in there, just in 2:31:23.959 --> 2:31:26.480 each other, you know what I'm saying. So I'm looking 2:31:26.520 --> 2:31:28.960 at this and I write, I I'm thinking about j 2:31:29.840 --> 2:31:33.640 jay Z. I'm a moving by myself, jay Z. I'm 2:31:33.680 --> 2:31:38.280 a movement by myself, jay Z and Beyonce. But I'm 2:31:38.320 --> 2:31:43.440 a force. We're together. You know what I'm saying, Mommy, 2:31:43.520 --> 2:31:48.400 I'm good all by myself, but you you make me better. 2:31:49.480 --> 2:31:54.440 You feel me, you feel me. I'm watched. I'm watching 2:31:54.520 --> 2:31:56.000 him in the corner, like trying not to be a 2:31:56.080 --> 2:31:59.520 creep because most weird. If anybody turned around and look 2:31:59.560 --> 2:32:00.880 at me in every right, now, they can be nigga, 2:32:00.879 --> 2:32:06.920 what then you staring at my bad? Bad? Bro, my bad, 2:32:08.720 --> 2:32:10.880 But you can't help but feel the energy in the 2:32:10.959 --> 2:32:13.800 corner because they they're in the corner and their own 2:32:13.959 --> 2:32:16.200 fucking world they might have will not have been nobody 2:32:16.240 --> 2:32:18.640 else in the room, Like this is the vibe that 2:32:18.760 --> 2:32:21.240 they got and I'm just looking at it, like all right, 2:32:21.720 --> 2:32:25.520 I'm jay Z, I'm fucking jay Z. I'm a movement 2:32:26.959 --> 2:32:29.280 just by me, just by myself. I can walk in 2:32:29.320 --> 2:32:32.039 the room by myself and ship is gonna change because 2:32:32.080 --> 2:32:35.280 I'm in the room. I'm a movement, nigga. But when 2:32:35.320 --> 2:32:39.680 I walk in with you, now, I'm a force now, 2:32:39.840 --> 2:32:42.520 regardless of what you thought regardless of what you felt like, 2:32:43.120 --> 2:32:47.320 your mood, everything about you changes because we are in 2:32:47.440 --> 2:32:50.400 the room. You feel me like, that's that's different, bro, 2:32:50.600 --> 2:32:53.200 that's that ship is different. So I wrote that ship 2:32:53.800 --> 2:32:56.200 and I presented it to Jay and he was like, 2:32:56.360 --> 2:32:58.960 this is dope. This is R and B ship. You 2:32:59.000 --> 2:33:04.080 should keep it. And it was like yeah and boo 2:33:04.200 --> 2:33:08.320 at the same time, because like Nick, I just took 2:33:08.520 --> 2:33:13.200 your whole No, of course not, I'm not not not, 2:33:14.200 --> 2:33:17.320 But in my mind, I'm like, you don't want it? Wait, 2:33:17.400 --> 2:33:20.360 wait what Like I just I just took your whole 2:33:20.480 --> 2:33:23.120 element and and and put it in words like your 2:33:23.160 --> 2:33:26.680 whole ship and this is this is y'all you and 2:33:26.800 --> 2:33:31.240 be supposed to get a ship and and spas out right. Yeah, 2:33:31.320 --> 2:33:33.080 this ship is dope, some R and B ship that 2:33:33.120 --> 2:33:41.080 you should keep it. Thank you, thank you, thank thanks 2:33:41.120 --> 2:33:45.280 so much, thank you, sir. I appreciate it. Thank you. 2:33:47.240 --> 2:33:52.320 Now like I thought I was onto something like Nick, 2:33:52.400 --> 2:33:55.480 I have figured out I have. I have cracked the code. 2:33:55.520 --> 2:33:58.040 I have, I have cracked the matrix on Jay Z 2:33:58.080 --> 2:34:01.200 and Beyonce boom. And then they said, yeah, that's do 2:34:01.360 --> 2:34:04.080 keep it for yourself. I'm good. He's a great story. Buddy. Right, 2:34:04.959 --> 2:34:08.120 So I so at this mind you, this is jay 2:34:08.200 --> 2:34:09.720 Z telling me I should keep it for myself something, 2:34:09.760 --> 2:34:11.680 and I'm gona keep it for myself. So I write 2:34:11.800 --> 2:34:15.000 versus to the ship. I create a whole record. Right, 2:34:15.480 --> 2:34:18.000 Everybody likes the record, you know, the team likes the record, 2:34:18.080 --> 2:34:20.119 but they don't love the record. It's other ship that's 2:34:20.160 --> 2:34:22.880 that's getting the attention. So this record kind of becomes 2:34:23.000 --> 2:34:25.920 just a fucking archives just sitting in the archive. Right. 2:34:26.400 --> 2:34:28.879 I don't honestly even know how it got to FAB, 2:34:29.640 --> 2:34:31.600 to be honest with you, I don't know how it 2:34:31.720 --> 2:34:35.880 got to Fab. But Fab No, no, but Fab just 2:34:35.959 --> 2:34:38.720 hit me up and they're like, yo, hey this this 2:34:38.920 --> 2:34:40.880 makes me better. Ship, Nigga, you need to let me 2:34:41.000 --> 2:34:42.760 rock on this. And I'm like, bird, go for it, 2:34:43.360 --> 2:34:45.480 because again, it's it's an archive record. At this point, 2:34:45.520 --> 2:34:49.400 it was using it. It's just sitting. He's like, bro, 2:34:49.720 --> 2:34:52.600 you need to let me do your thing. So he 2:34:52.720 --> 2:34:55.280 does his thing, sends it back to me. I'm like, yeah, nigga, 2:34:55.320 --> 2:35:00.120 that's yeah, Yeah, that's yeah. That's one and and the 2:35:00.240 --> 2:35:02.280 rest is history. The label runs with it and it 2:35:02.440 --> 2:35:05.600 becomes that makes me better that everybody knows, but the 2:35:05.800 --> 2:35:08.840 and originally I wrote that ship with the intent that 2:35:09.080 --> 2:35:11.640 night I was like, Yo, Beyonce and jay Z is 2:35:11.680 --> 2:35:15.000 going to do a song to this tonight is happening 2:35:15.200 --> 2:35:17.480 right now, And I played the ship with j He 2:35:17.600 --> 2:35:20.160 was like, Yeah, that's dope. That's some R and B ship. 2:35:21.080 --> 2:35:26.080 Keep it for yourself. Records. Timber Land shout out to 2:35:26.120 --> 2:35:29.640 the boy, tim God, what a fucking amazing story. Man, 2:35:35.120 --> 2:35:38.840 God had no singing, Like, this is dope for you. 2:35:39.720 --> 2:35:44.200 For you, Timberlands, take on all of that Fab too, right, 2:35:44.840 --> 2:35:47.760 I don't. I literally you might want to ask fact. 2:35:47.800 --> 2:35:50.520 I literally don't know how Fab heard the record because 2:35:50.680 --> 2:35:55.080 I didn't. I didn't. Maybe I don't know because saying 2:35:55.120 --> 2:35:57.080 I'm gonna sit on this record. To all I know 2:35:57.480 --> 2:35:59.840 is I get a hit from Fab to Blue like, Yo, 2:36:00.040 --> 2:36:01.640 this ship is dope. You need to let me funk 2:36:01.720 --> 2:36:04.200 with this. And I'm like, Nigga, go for it, go 2:36:04.440 --> 2:36:07.440 for it, because at this point it's literally just sitting 2:36:07.480 --> 2:36:09.600 in the archives like I'm not doing nothing with it, 2:36:09.680 --> 2:36:12.200 it's just there. So he's like, Yo, let me throw 2:36:12.240 --> 2:36:15.640 some verses this. Nigga do it, and he did it, 2:36:15.760 --> 2:36:18.240 and that ship became you know, the song we know 2:36:18.400 --> 2:36:25.920 now and the rest is history. Broa, it's just that, yo, fat, 2:36:28.200 --> 2:36:39.000 what's going on? Yeah? We got Neo dream. I thought 2:36:39.040 --> 2:36:44.480 you usually FaceTime FaceTime of you right now FaceTime you 2:36:46.640 --> 2:36:49.000 just face on your FaceTime. I don't want you want 2:36:49.000 --> 2:36:52.440 some creepy ship. WI not working in my face. Oh 2:36:52.640 --> 2:36:54.480 I'm hitting the wrong but and I'm sorry. I'm old school. 2:36:58.600 --> 2:37:11.160 I'm old school. Family's going on, Kevin, we got Leo here, 2:37:11.320 --> 2:37:15.600 we got Leo here. Yeah, I dropped. I'm telling the troup. 2:37:15.800 --> 2:37:17.760 He dropped. You want to or you want me to 2:37:17.800 --> 2:37:26.039 ask the questions in so so so so, but look 2:37:26.360 --> 2:37:29.960 check it. He he wants to know, how did you 2:37:30.160 --> 2:37:34.160 hear about of the record you made me better? How 2:37:34.240 --> 2:37:41.000 did I hear about it? Yeah? I said this hall 2:37:41.040 --> 2:37:46.200 of s okay. Yeah, he was like, he got a 2:37:46.280 --> 2:37:51.520 smash record. But it's but it's and his words I 2:37:51.640 --> 2:37:53.920 want to say. He said, it's a fat record, like 2:37:54.320 --> 2:37:58.240 like it's too, it's too. I mean, home could have 2:37:58.320 --> 2:38:00.840 did it in my eyes, but he said it was 2:38:02.240 --> 2:38:06.520 something and it was really fat. Now he's he said, 2:38:06.640 --> 2:38:08.520 he said, he said, it's an R and B record. 2:38:08.680 --> 2:38:12.160 Hold on, hold on, so the night so the night 2:38:12.240 --> 2:38:16.160 that I did this ship, telling the story. I'm sitting 2:38:16.160 --> 2:38:17.680 and telling the story. The night that I did this 2:38:17.720 --> 2:38:19.680 ship was like the first night that I really saw 2:38:20.240 --> 2:38:23.360 any interaction between him and B and that's what made 2:38:23.400 --> 2:38:25.960 me right the way I wrote it. So I'm sitting 2:38:25.959 --> 2:38:29.440 there like, yo, I didn't I've cracked the code to 2:38:29.640 --> 2:38:32.720 Jay and Beyonce. I'm moving by myself, but I'm a force. 2:38:32.800 --> 2:38:34.960 One were together and I played this ship for the 2:38:35.040 --> 2:38:37.000 nick and he was like, yeah, that's dope, you should 2:38:37.080 --> 2:38:51.360 keep it, nigger. I was. I was so honored and 2:38:51.520 --> 2:38:59.200 hurt at the same time, Like sometimes you can see 2:38:59.280 --> 2:39:06.240 records that and the right, but but you're running. I 2:39:06.360 --> 2:39:11.640 can't see how that that's that's a j B bro. 2:39:12.040 --> 2:39:15.440 The ship was inspired by just watching them sitting in 2:39:15.520 --> 2:39:18.280 the corner of the studio, spassing out, just being them, 2:39:19.320 --> 2:39:21.440 and the nigga was like, yeah, that's dope, Yeah, hold on, 2:39:21.920 --> 2:39:24.920 keep that on me. That's yours. I'm like, oh, hey, damn, 2:39:25.560 --> 2:39:28.600 but no, I literally never knew how how the record 2:39:28.680 --> 2:39:32.279 got to you. I just niggas was like, yo, fathers 2:39:32.360 --> 2:39:34.160 like he loved that ship. Let's rock. I'm like, all right, 2:39:34.240 --> 2:39:36.320 fucking let's rock, Like but I never knew how it 2:39:36.520 --> 2:39:38.440 got to you. So yeah, that's that's where this whole 2:39:38.480 --> 2:39:42.240 came up. Definitely was the whole out of you. Um. 2:39:43.400 --> 2:39:44.960 And he came to me. It was like, Yo, I 2:39:45.040 --> 2:39:48.119 got this joint. He said, I think it's a smash 2:39:49.280 --> 2:39:52.480 And he was like, I think he explained to me 2:39:52.600 --> 2:39:56.280 it was kind of originally set for him, but he 2:39:56.440 --> 2:40:00.800 think it was more of my lane. And I said, 2:40:00.879 --> 2:40:02.680 y'all this joining us out of here. I said, I 2:40:02.680 --> 2:40:05.520 don't know why hold giving me this record, but I 2:40:05.640 --> 2:40:09.920 asked a little question. That's crazy, straight up, straight up, 2:40:10.200 --> 2:40:12.120 when the God give you a blessing you on your 2:40:12.120 --> 2:40:20.480 only question, straight up straight up? My name a man. 2:40:20.640 --> 2:40:24.920 Good to see you, brother, hold on your yo. Father. 2:40:25.000 --> 2:40:26.720 I just want to tell y'all man, y're making New 2:40:26.800 --> 2:40:30.840 York looks so good you Jim Jones, Dave East every 2:40:30.920 --> 2:40:33.680 time I see y'all all together. May no, man, I 2:40:34.240 --> 2:40:37.800 really really appreciate y'all man for keeping that you know Camaraddie, 2:40:37.879 --> 2:40:40.680 Joel said, Tanner and that and that tightness. Man, you're 2:40:40.760 --> 2:40:43.160 making us look good. Man. I'm gonna coming and and 2:40:43.640 --> 2:40:47.240 and come hang out y'all very soon. We can't wait. 2:40:47.360 --> 2:40:53.800 We can't are you on rock the bells? Because if 2:40:53.840 --> 2:41:00.080 you're not, can I bring you out of special guests? Know? 2:41:01.600 --> 2:41:04.920 I hate y'all. Let you know my y'all. All right, y'all, well, look, 2:41:05.040 --> 2:41:11.480 thank you so much. That's crazy that you didn't know 2:41:11.680 --> 2:41:15.160 that you didn't know that jay Z that that that 2:41:15.360 --> 2:41:18.920 that's a lot about Jay because not only did he 2:41:19.080 --> 2:41:21.960 notice it was a hit, but he gave it a Yo, 2:41:22.120 --> 2:41:24.400 it's it's a You gotta be a different kind of 2:41:24.560 --> 2:41:27.600 dude to be like this is a hit, but this 2:41:27.800 --> 2:41:31.160 is a hit that's not for me. That's different. What 2:41:31.360 --> 2:41:33.760 was the time frame between the time that he told 2:41:33.800 --> 2:41:37.000 you it's not for him, that's for you that night? 2:41:37.160 --> 2:41:41.200 It was? What was that time? Uh? Yo? It was 2:41:41.280 --> 2:41:44.640 it was easily like a like a year, like a 2:41:44.760 --> 2:41:48.959 year because when he told me that, when he said, 2:41:49.040 --> 2:41:50.960 when he said, like, Yo, this is dope, you should 2:41:50.959 --> 2:41:53.480 hold on to it, I wrote versus to it like 2:41:53.600 --> 2:41:55.360 I wrote it like on some All right, I'm gonna 2:41:55.360 --> 2:41:58.040 hold on to it for myself and and and as 2:41:58.120 --> 2:42:00.959 much as we love the record, it just didn't feel 2:42:01.080 --> 2:42:03.200 right for the moves that we was making. It just 2:42:03.320 --> 2:42:06.440 never felt right. And then all of a sudden fab 2:42:06.600 --> 2:42:08.920 him be like, Yo, that makes me better join nigger. 2:42:09.000 --> 2:42:11.520 That's me Like, and I'm like, ah, yeah, let's rock. 2:42:12.480 --> 2:42:15.520 But but it wasn't it. It happens like that sometimes 2:42:15.560 --> 2:42:18.600 it's like it's you know, all the records that you're right, 2:42:18.959 --> 2:42:22.279 the records that the world here's you need to understand. 2:42:22.320 --> 2:42:25.240 It was like maybe twenty records that happened before that record, 2:42:25.640 --> 2:42:27.480 you know what I mean, And the is just sitting 2:42:27.920 --> 2:42:31.560 waiting to be groomed properly, to be presented to the 2:42:31.640 --> 2:42:34.080 world like and that. And that was what made me 2:42:34.160 --> 2:42:36.080 better was it was it was written for this, it 2:42:36.160 --> 2:42:38.440 was intended for this, didn't so much work for that. 2:42:38.879 --> 2:42:40.880 We re freaked it and worked it for this, and 2:42:40.959 --> 2:42:42.360 it worked, you know what I'm saying. That's That's what 2:42:42.640 --> 2:42:44.800 I think it's crazy, is that he told you the record, 2:42:44.879 --> 2:42:48.040 you should just take the record for yourself. So he 2:42:48.280 --> 2:42:51.039 obviously a year later, was like, this is a hit record. 2:42:51.120 --> 2:42:53.720 This guy did not put it out for himself. This 2:42:53.879 --> 2:42:57.760 needs to go somewhere. Yeah. Yeah, And and to this day, 2:42:57.800 --> 2:43:00.520 I got records I'm sitting on right now that are hits, 2:43:01.080 --> 2:43:04.160 just not exactly hits for me. I'm waiting on you 2:43:04.280 --> 2:43:06.520 know the right. I don't believe in a coincidence or 2:43:06.560 --> 2:43:09.640 an accident. I feel like everything that happens is supposed 2:43:09.640 --> 2:43:12.400 to happen, and it doesn't happen a second before it's 2:43:12.440 --> 2:43:16.560 supposed to happen. So there's there's there's a multitude of 2:43:16.640 --> 2:43:19.240 songs that I've written that I feel like if the 2:43:19.320 --> 2:43:21.800 world heard this, it would be a hit. But it's 2:43:21.800 --> 2:43:24.320 about who they hear it on, you know what I mean. 2:43:24.600 --> 2:43:26.520 If they heard it from me, maybe not so much. 2:43:26.600 --> 2:43:28.840 If they heard it from this cat maybe, you know, 2:43:29.000 --> 2:43:31.800 So it doesn't I have like a whole folder full 2:43:31.840 --> 2:43:34.560 of records that I'm just waiting on the right artist 2:43:35.120 --> 2:43:37.720 to jump up to be like, yo, yeah, all right 2:43:37.920 --> 2:43:39.960 here this is for you. Take this and go in 2:43:40.040 --> 2:43:44.120 the world and rock with this. Yeah. Yeah. Can you 2:43:44.240 --> 2:43:50.960 write a record for like uh Santana? I can write anything, bro, anything. 2:43:51.760 --> 2:43:55.320 Words are words and and they have power. And if 2:43:55.400 --> 2:43:57.920 you learn the power of words, you could run the 2:43:58.000 --> 2:44:00.120 planet if you felt like it. I could on the 2:44:00.160 --> 2:44:02.600 planet if I felt like it. That's the lightweight drunk drunk, 2:44:02.640 --> 2:44:04.960 but lightweight me telling the truth. I could write a 2:44:05.000 --> 2:44:07.360 record for anybody, bro, I could write a rock record. 2:44:07.440 --> 2:44:09.360 I could write a poker record, I could write a 2:44:09.480 --> 2:44:13.920 Spanish record that matter, It doesn't matter. I can speak 2:44:13.959 --> 2:44:18.800 passionately about a subject matter, and that's part of what's 2:44:18.879 --> 2:44:21.200 needed to be able to write. The other part is 2:44:21.280 --> 2:44:24.960 melody and and and creativity. I have all these things. 2:44:25.240 --> 2:44:27.160 So yeah, I can write a record for anybody. It 2:44:27.200 --> 2:44:30.160 don't matter, don't matter. So of course you just come 2:44:30.200 --> 2:44:33.680 to you and say you listen man. I think I 2:44:33.760 --> 2:44:39.080 think he's saying, if I come to you, I think 2:44:39.120 --> 2:44:46.000 I'm coming back what we're doing, Yo, listen, send me, 2:44:46.120 --> 2:44:51.080 send me to beat with your verses on it. I 2:44:51.320 --> 2:45:04.240 want to do that too. I got you. We're taking 2:45:04.280 --> 2:45:06.039 the shot of that. We're taking the shot of neo 2:45:06.120 --> 2:45:10.720 biking me out of retirement, but now we're bringing you 2:45:10.760 --> 2:45:14.720 out of retirement. When you're doing versus against Acorn, would 2:45:14.760 --> 2:45:19.320 I absolutely? And you're smoking him. Let's just I mean, 2:45:19.720 --> 2:45:23.400 that's for a free apartment in Africa. That's the best 2:45:23.760 --> 2:45:28.800 for the free apartment. It's a five million dollars Joe, 2:45:29.959 --> 2:45:33.160 I would happily do versus against a con. That's my brother, 2:45:33.280 --> 2:45:35.400 that's my guy, and I feel like it would be 2:45:35.520 --> 2:45:39.440 entertaining his his his category his his catalog versus my catalog. 2:45:39.520 --> 2:45:42.360 I feel like that would be super entertaining. Yeah, but 2:45:42.680 --> 2:45:43.920 at the end of the day, Yeah, I felt like 2:45:43.959 --> 2:45:45.680 I take that. I take I feel like I take that. 2:45:45.760 --> 2:45:57.840 On Holy we're supposed to salute y'all. Y'all did this. 2:45:59.080 --> 2:46:05.000 That's a good versus the prizes is a condo in Africa. 2:46:05.760 --> 2:46:08.880 If I win and I don't get some residency and 2:46:08.959 --> 2:46:11.680 this this city that he's creating, I'm gon fell away here. Okay, 2:46:11.720 --> 2:46:13.400 but let me just ask you something because we just 2:46:13.520 --> 2:46:16.720 came up with a question these workers that she wrote 2:46:16.760 --> 2:46:20.160 from Michael, Yeah, would you give him the janet? That's 2:46:20.200 --> 2:46:22.760 what I said. That's what I told him, and nobody 2:46:23.240 --> 2:46:28.000 to somebody. Somebody I said it to him, and then 2:46:28.200 --> 2:46:33.720 y'all was talking over we didn't rewind the tape. No 2:46:33.879 --> 2:46:36.040 real ship. That's not a bad idea. That's not a 2:46:36.120 --> 2:46:48.760 bad idea because that don't point of this guy. Yes, No, 2:46:49.040 --> 2:46:52.280 that that allows me to keep it genuine, to keep 2:46:52.320 --> 2:46:54.240 it real, you know what I'm saying. At the same time, 2:46:55.000 --> 2:46:57.240 taking sure that the records just gonna get the recognition 2:46:57.320 --> 2:47:03.960 that they need. Wait, what happened? Freddie Jackson? Freddie Jackson. 2:47:04.280 --> 2:47:06.320 I don't know, Freddy Jackson, he got the finger ways 2:47:09.879 --> 2:47:14.560 I'm definitely I'm not wrong. Freddy Jackson. Come on with 2:47:14.959 --> 2:47:17.560 with'a laughing Freddie Jackson got the figure where he out 2:47:17.640 --> 2:47:22.680 was out Michael Brother. Shout out the shout you know what, 2:47:23.080 --> 2:47:26.800 shout out the iconic he parted the Jackson five and 2:47:26.879 --> 2:47:29.600 he is not he was not he not. I went 2:47:29.640 --> 2:47:35.040 too far, My bad Jackson was. Freddy Jackson was devil, 2:47:35.720 --> 2:47:42.160 he was the smartest. He was not. You are, my lady, 2:47:42.200 --> 2:47:46.400 Freddie Jackson. He wasn't in. He wasn't in Jackson five. No, 2:47:46.640 --> 2:47:51.840 my bad. Everything I need and more. Hey, man, shout 2:47:51.840 --> 2:47:56.440 out Freddy Jackson. I don't know, Freddy, I don't know. 2:47:56.520 --> 2:48:00.560 I'm gonna take a shot to Freddy Jackson taking the shot. 2:48:00.800 --> 2:48:04.920 He didn't. He deserved fun to take a shot. But 2:48:05.040 --> 2:48:08.520 Freddy Jackson, listen, man, get back, get back to my 2:48:08.600 --> 2:48:14.720 original Jackson. That's that's an idea. That's actually a really 2:48:14.800 --> 2:48:20.359 good idea. That's that because that uh represents and respects 2:48:20.600 --> 2:48:23.640 Michael Jackson's legacy while at the same time not being 2:48:24.520 --> 2:48:27.560 you know, so far outside of what he was and 2:48:27.640 --> 2:48:30.000 what he would have done anyway, so now that's that's 2:48:30.000 --> 2:48:32.120 a really good idea. You know, his daughter and her 2:48:32.240 --> 2:48:35.320 son is an artist too. For that, Mike, Mike got 2:48:36.000 --> 2:48:38.600 or a son that's being an artis or you got done? 2:48:39.160 --> 2:48:42.080 Which one? I think you're both both both being artists. 2:48:42.440 --> 2:48:43.600 Well I don't know if they both artists, but you 2:48:43.640 --> 2:48:46.880 got a daughter and the son legacy doesn't validate you 2:48:47.080 --> 2:48:51.360 for me and the talent, I don't given who he dad, 2:48:51.440 --> 2:48:53.400 he was, what can you know? I think Janet would 2:48:53.400 --> 2:48:56.080 be the right. I'm gonna tell you what my grandfather 2:48:56.160 --> 2:48:59.039 told me the first time my grandfather met me after 2:48:59.240 --> 2:49:03.080 I was famous part of Wecan grandfather he said, you're 2:49:03.120 --> 2:49:08.360 telling cups from what dick. He was totally correct, He 2:49:08.480 --> 2:49:10.760 was totally correct. He was like, Jesus said, your mother 2:49:10.840 --> 2:49:13.800 little sing. If I don't know sing, it's me. It's 2:49:13.840 --> 2:49:18.400 like and I was like, damn you adressed dude. That's dumb. 2:49:18.840 --> 2:49:21.879 That's dumb. Because because he was, you call it one 2:49:21.920 --> 2:49:28.800 of them. The base he played, the beating. He got 2:49:28.879 --> 2:49:32.400 you straight. Was like, he was like, Rover, get sucked up. 2:49:32.440 --> 2:49:39.800 He comes from me. Good your mom me. He dead 2:49:39.920 --> 2:49:42.360 seriously said that to me. That Then I looked at 2:49:42.440 --> 2:49:45.320 pictures and then they showed me pictures of him touring, 2:49:46.040 --> 2:49:50.280 and I was like, damn, he's kind of correct, but 2:49:50.560 --> 2:49:54.160 because he's Puerto Rican and he's like this, he tells 2:49:54.200 --> 2:49:57.480 a couple of Monday. Wait a minute, we just kind 2:49:57.480 --> 2:49:59.720 of mad. And you said, that's like a shot to that. 2:50:01.000 --> 2:50:06.040 You know what I'm saying. I didn't say. We went 2:50:06.080 --> 2:50:08.560 to take a shot to that. Got the neo because 2:50:08.640 --> 2:50:12.320 your career is truly rather than thank you, truly beautiful, 2:50:13.800 --> 2:50:17.960 truly dope man. And to see the level that you act, 2:50:19.520 --> 2:50:25.959 to see the uh, humbleness that you still display because 2:50:25.959 --> 2:50:28.160 you don't gotta be humble. You definitely don't have to 2:50:28.240 --> 2:50:30.480 be hume. I don't have to be. But it's more fun. 2:50:30.840 --> 2:50:33.800 How many Grammars you I got? Only only three? Only three? 2:50:34.240 --> 2:50:43.039 Three more than three? I say three. I was nominated 2:50:43.080 --> 2:50:48.680 and they said, don't come though, Why they didn't want 2:50:48.720 --> 2:50:54.560 my kind company? They no, I say, I say, only three, 2:50:54.640 --> 2:50:56.920 But I got to take a shot to your three Grammys. 2:50:57.160 --> 2:51:00.360 We can do that. Please, come on, Stephen winning double 2:51:00.440 --> 2:51:05.680 digit Grammys, you know, come on, man, listen. I'm up 2:51:05.680 --> 2:51:07.800 for myself in the category of the greats. How else 2:51:07.840 --> 2:51:10.680 can I achieve that greatness if I don't rock with 2:51:10.800 --> 2:51:14.960 the greats. Steven want to got double digit grammars, which 2:51:15.000 --> 2:51:16.720 means I got more. I got more work to do, 2:51:16.959 --> 2:51:19.200 got more work to do. What I'm saying, right, I've done. 2:51:20.040 --> 2:51:23.240 I've done great things. I'm gracious and I appreciate all 2:51:23.280 --> 2:51:25.879 the love that I've received. But there's so much more 2:51:25.920 --> 2:51:29.280 ship to do, so much more ship to do. So 2:51:29.360 --> 2:51:34.000 as long as y'are giving the fun rockets? Who Who's who? Who? 2:51:34.120 --> 2:51:36.880 Who's the record that you have never done that you 2:51:36.959 --> 2:51:40.840 want to do? Okay, So I've written records for Beyonce. 2:51:41.879 --> 2:51:47.520 We've never done anything record together. Right, I've write, I've done, 2:51:47.560 --> 2:51:51.520 I've done songs like you know with certain motherfucker's that 2:51:51.560 --> 2:51:53.920 I would love to do a song with them, not 2:51:54.200 --> 2:51:58.640 just me writing for them. You know, I'm anxious to 2:51:58.800 --> 2:52:04.120 see what me and Drake would come up with, like 2:52:04.320 --> 2:52:07.080 that might be, that might be interesting. I could see 2:52:07.120 --> 2:52:09.199 that it might be trash, but it might be interesting. 2:52:10.920 --> 2:52:14.760 It's I'm willing to take the chance and just see 2:52:15.520 --> 2:52:18.280 we're not We're not doing that. It's not gonna be trash. 2:52:18.360 --> 2:52:21.240 What are you going to be? It's gonna be as 2:52:21.280 --> 2:52:23.840 we won't call it panty wet music. I like it. 2:52:24.040 --> 2:52:26.360 I like it. That should be the last two panty 2:52:26.480 --> 2:52:30.680 wet music because how let your boy, let's figure it out. 2:52:32.000 --> 2:52:37.640 This gota yes start off, that should be your logo 2:52:37.760 --> 2:52:41.800 right there when he goes, and that's the logo. And 2:52:41.840 --> 2:52:43.840 then you just see the panties and then it just 2:52:43.959 --> 2:52:48.960 it just turned dry and just turn wet, you know 2:52:49.000 --> 2:52:50.840 what I mean? Like it just like it's like I 2:52:50.920 --> 2:52:57.960 did that West sitting over the crowd, like like a 2:52:58.000 --> 2:53:02.760 hologram or holographic you and then you're in the range. 2:53:05.000 --> 2:53:08.080 Doesn't Drake do a record and not? I mean people 2:53:08.120 --> 2:53:16.400 don't get pregnant? Yeah, failed true pregnant nine million. Hey, Aubrey, 2:53:16.560 --> 2:53:19.480 how let your boy listen. Let's let's Aubrey I did 2:53:19.640 --> 2:53:22.600 I prospected. It's his name, Yeah, it's his name. It's 2:53:22.640 --> 2:53:25.840 just your rappers by the real name. Why not. I 2:53:25.879 --> 2:53:28.880 would never call elko J Tard. I would call you 2:53:29.000 --> 2:53:30.879 by your real name if I knew your real name, 2:53:31.200 --> 2:53:34.000 because I funk with you. If I was just a fan, 2:53:34.760 --> 2:53:36.960 then I would call you by your artist name. You 2:53:37.000 --> 2:53:39.000 know what I'm saying. No, that fused you as a person, 2:53:39.120 --> 2:53:41.120 But you as a person to would call you call 2:53:41.200 --> 2:53:49.800 your name day record though we're gonna get petty. How 2:53:49.879 --> 2:53:52.360 did your boy what You're Gonna be? A crazy record? 2:53:55.360 --> 2:53:58.680 What was it? Pet crack record? Sound like? I don't know, 2:53:59.200 --> 2:54:02.280 I don't know. But if it has any if Wedy 2:54:02.800 --> 2:54:05.960 has any entrance on that, you know that it's gonna 2:54:06.000 --> 2:54:08.240 be some fire ships come to dark because you ain't 2:54:08.240 --> 2:54:10.039 doing you don't do no, you don't do no bullshit. 2:54:11.600 --> 2:54:14.920 You refused to do mediocre records. Why what forward? It's 2:54:15.040 --> 2:54:17.120 enough of that in the world. You don't need it 2:54:17.200 --> 2:54:27.039 for me. Ella, my bad, bad bad. It's a surf 2:54:27.120 --> 2:54:29.400 way of the way you pop ship is fucking dope. 2:54:31.440 --> 2:54:34.760 You know. We have everybody on here kind of humble. 2:54:34.840 --> 2:54:38.080 But it's not like the title of your your album. 2:54:38.360 --> 2:54:41.000 It's like going there, it's gonna be based in fact. 2:54:41.560 --> 2:54:44.760 I'm never I'm never the nigger popping ship. And then 2:54:44.920 --> 2:54:48.160 you go and do the research and it ain't valid. No. Now, 2:54:48.320 --> 2:54:50.240 if I'm a pop ship in mind you, I don't 2:54:50.280 --> 2:54:52.080 have to pop ship because you can google it. You 2:54:52.160 --> 2:54:54.160 can see it. You know what you see if you 2:54:54.240 --> 2:54:56.160 really want to see it, you can see it. I 2:54:56.240 --> 2:54:59.039 don't gotta point you in the direction. Nah, if you're 2:54:59.040 --> 2:55:01.320 really thirsty, the it is over there. I don't have 2:55:01.440 --> 2:55:03.440 to I don't have to lead you there. You can 2:55:03.520 --> 2:55:06.800 go there yourself and get fulfilled. It's that's what it is. 2:55:06.959 --> 2:55:08.760 That's what it is. I do what I do. I've 2:55:08.760 --> 2:55:11.560 been doing what I've done for roughly twenty years at 2:55:11.600 --> 2:55:13.920 this point, and I'm doing it like I do it 2:55:13.959 --> 2:55:17.320 for TV. Goddamn it. That's what it is. I'm done. 2:55:17.400 --> 2:55:21.760 You gotta make some noise for that. My last question, 2:55:23.160 --> 2:55:27.800 let it go? That's that worldwide music which one? Let 2:55:27.879 --> 2:55:32.760 it go? Let it go? Uh, how's it dance go? 2:55:34.920 --> 2:55:37.560 I ain't mad? I ain't Madsten, you bring your sh 2:55:37.600 --> 2:55:39.000 it out of me. Did you get a thug to 2:55:39.040 --> 2:55:41.960 put his hands up perfect? He didn't say. He did 2:55:42.040 --> 2:55:46.200 something like that and a purpose. So yeah, I see 2:55:48.840 --> 2:55:59.280 easy music. He sent me just move altering, just and 2:55:59.520 --> 2:56:05.120 he may he's always on time. I make ship. You 2:56:05.200 --> 2:56:07.720 work out for me, y'all. He told me, this is 2:56:07.920 --> 2:56:15.280 this is the key to make it to making girl music. Listen, 2:56:15.320 --> 2:56:17.520 this is this is the big thing. I can't. I 2:56:17.640 --> 2:56:20.959 can't make a girl record if it hurt. I can 2:56:21.040 --> 2:56:24.280 help you. I love you at least one girl can 2:56:24.360 --> 2:56:27.720 help you record. I can help you listen. I'm okay, 2:56:27.760 --> 2:56:29.080 so let me let me work this out for you. 2:56:29.240 --> 2:56:31.920 Let me please. If any woman on the planet has 2:56:32.040 --> 2:56:35.800 ever danced to a to a Noriega record, you can 2:56:35.879 --> 2:56:39.240 make a girl record girl. Because they funk with your voice, 2:56:39.280 --> 2:56:41.480 They funk with your tone, they funk with your vibe. 2:56:41.920 --> 2:56:44.039 You just need to You just need somebody to step 2:56:44.080 --> 2:56:46.320 in and remind them that they funk with your vibe. 2:56:46.360 --> 2:56:48.560 It's like, no, you know this vibe, mind them that 2:56:48.640 --> 2:56:51.600 I'm a finger pop straight up? Shut up? May me 2:56:51.680 --> 2:57:01.280 stop there, shut up. I can gonna word. No, no, no, 2:57:02.879 --> 2:57:05.199 we got great. Well, we don't find a fly away 2:57:05.280 --> 2:57:08.680 to express to get you the finger pop. You don't 2:57:08.720 --> 2:57:15.720 find a fly away to let it be. No, oh, guys, 2:57:16.280 --> 2:57:23.080 I'm joining aboutself and always singing my light along like 2:57:23.200 --> 2:57:25.560 I don't know if let me my light back. But 2:57:27.080 --> 2:57:29.680 he don't inject you. He's been on some smooth, army 2:57:29.800 --> 2:57:38.760 ship thinking that I see you y'all came around, But 2:57:38.920 --> 2:57:45.160 you made a record called mad, Yes, absolutely did. Why 2:57:45.280 --> 2:57:48.960 were you mad? I wasn't mad. I was telling her 2:57:49.040 --> 2:57:53.720 that I find it sexy when she's mad. That's director. 2:57:56.040 --> 2:57:57.680 Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait 2:57:57.720 --> 2:57:59.520 wait wait wait wait wait, let me get that right. So, 2:57:59.720 --> 2:58:03.920 because so there's two records. There's mad and then there's 2:58:04.280 --> 2:58:07.160 when You're mad. When You're mad is a joint the 2:58:07.240 --> 2:58:09.959 telling the check that she's sexy when she's mad, because 2:58:09.959 --> 2:58:13.720 I remember, I recall the female that I wrote the 2:58:13.800 --> 2:58:18.040 song about, like she was about three ft tall, itty bitty, right, 2:58:18.720 --> 2:58:21.160 but she was a little firecracker. So whenever she would 2:58:21.160 --> 2:58:25.040 get whenever she would get upset, like crinkle her nose up, 2:58:25.120 --> 2:58:27.160 like like she was a little thug. But it's like 2:58:27.480 --> 2:58:29.680 like three ft tall, your three ft tall, cut it out. 2:58:29.959 --> 2:58:32.080 So it was just beautiful, right, it was. I just 2:58:32.240 --> 2:58:34.920 really used to get off on what she would look 2:58:34.959 --> 2:58:36.720 at me like when she was upset. So that's where 2:58:36.720 --> 2:58:44.840 that's saying. That's pretty much pretty much pretty much, man, Listen. 2:58:45.320 --> 2:58:50.000 I've always been I've always been a fan of convenience, 2:58:50.440 --> 2:58:52.240 you know what I'm saying. If I if I can 2:58:52.320 --> 2:58:55.039 just stand where I'm at and you can stand where 2:58:55.080 --> 2:58:57.920 you're at and get it going, that's that's convenient for everyone, 2:58:58.160 --> 2:59:01.280 you know what I mean. Thing became her, So that 2:59:01.440 --> 2:59:05.520 was that's when You're mad. Mad is a whole other 2:59:05.600 --> 2:59:08.800 song talking about being in a relationship and not going 2:59:08.879 --> 2:59:12.840 to bed mad at a situation same person. No, that's 2:59:12.840 --> 2:59:15.880 a different persons difference. Now this this person. You're in 2:59:15.959 --> 2:59:18.960 a relationship with this person, and the whole concept of 2:59:19.480 --> 2:59:22.039 y'all beefing and you go to bed with the beef 2:59:22.120 --> 2:59:24.880 still hot, like that's not cool. That ship ain't cool. 2:59:25.280 --> 2:59:27.520 Nobody wants to wake up beef and I don't want cool. 2:59:28.080 --> 2:59:29.960 I don't want that. So I've always been I've always 2:59:29.959 --> 2:59:32.360 been the cat. Like, listen, let's try to figure this 2:59:32.360 --> 2:59:35.920 ship out right now. Let's let's find the resolution right now, 2:59:36.080 --> 2:59:38.720 as opposed to going to sleeping on it and waking 2:59:38.800 --> 2:59:41.240 up tomorrow still funked up, trying to figure out what 2:59:41.280 --> 2:59:42.800 we're doing. I don't want to do that. I don't 2:59:42.800 --> 2:59:44.600 want to do that. Let's figure out what we're doing 2:59:44.720 --> 2:59:51.520 right now. That's me again. Okay, you take a picture 2:59:54.480 --> 2:59:59.000 process like in the movie Stoping the Haitian. There wasn't 2:59:59.240 --> 3:00:02.279 any haze process. They didn't didn't hit you with the paddle. 3:00:02.400 --> 3:00:06.560 I will say this. I moved to Atlanta after I 3:00:06.640 --> 3:00:10.680 shot from Vegas. From Vegas, I moved to after shot 3:00:10.720 --> 3:00:14.600 Stumped Yard. Yeah I did. I was not aware of 3:00:15.360 --> 3:00:19.320 a place where every female that I came in contact 3:00:19.400 --> 3:00:23.880 with had just the most amazing and most beautiful ass 3:00:24.000 --> 3:00:27.000 I've ever seen in life until I came to Atlanta 3:00:27.280 --> 3:00:29.640 to shoot Stump the Yard. So I moved there after 3:00:29.720 --> 3:00:33.199 we shot the film, and rightfully, so, okay, I'm gonna 3:00:33.200 --> 3:00:41.360 go yearn it I bury back. So there wasn't no hazing, 3:00:42.200 --> 3:00:45.879 no hazing, not not for something to Yard the Canada 3:00:46.360 --> 3:00:51.200 inviolate you. Nick Cannon was not there. Yard was not 3:00:51.320 --> 3:01:01.080 Nick thinking drum It's okay, it happened. You know. Cats 3:01:01.160 --> 3:01:04.680 regularly run up and me like, Yo, you was doping drumline. 3:01:05.560 --> 3:01:16.760 I don't but you was doping drumline. You killed that. 3:01:19.480 --> 3:01:25.560 Oh good man, let's talk about that. Good Man the 3:01:25.720 --> 3:01:33.080 album's song the Whole Night. Yes, uh, because I'm a 3:01:33.120 --> 3:01:36.320 good man. I believe you, Yes, please believe that. Genuinely 3:01:36.400 --> 3:01:40.120 believe you. I believe that you can't be a good 3:01:40.200 --> 3:01:43.360 man without exploring what it is to not be a 3:01:43.440 --> 3:01:48.600 good man. You need the contrast, you need it. You know, Um, 3:01:49.480 --> 3:01:51.440 it's not a chore to be a bad man. That's 3:01:51.520 --> 3:01:53.840 just easy. You know, it's easy. To run around and 3:01:53.920 --> 3:01:55.840 just doing whatever fun did you want to do because 3:01:55.879 --> 3:01:59.400 you want to do it. The chore is to be 3:01:59.720 --> 3:02:04.480 a good man. It requires disciplines, it requires restraint, it 3:02:04.600 --> 3:02:07.240 requires self control. You know what I'm saying something that 3:02:08.000 --> 3:02:10.879 is raring us. You know, just as a human being. 3:02:11.000 --> 3:02:16.240 As a human being, we pick desire over necessity all 3:02:16.320 --> 3:02:19.520 day long. You know what I'm saying. This ship you 3:02:19.680 --> 3:02:22.520 want to do versus the ship you need to do 3:02:23.360 --> 3:02:25.800 all day long, you pick the ship you want to do, right, 3:02:26.320 --> 3:02:30.760 you know, So so to to to on purpose say 3:02:31.680 --> 3:02:33.640 this is what I want to do, but this is 3:02:33.720 --> 3:02:36.360 what I should do. And then to do what you 3:02:36.520 --> 3:02:40.040 should do. That's that's a thing. That's a thing you 3:02:40.160 --> 3:02:44.840 can't you can't overlook that like it's small, because it's 3:02:44.920 --> 3:02:47.960 not small. Because again, people do what they want to 3:02:48.000 --> 3:02:51.280 do all day long, men and women, men and women, 3:02:51.360 --> 3:02:54.840 all right, they ain't just us. Ain't just us. So 3:02:56.000 --> 3:03:00.040 to have the to have the level of discipline to 3:03:00.120 --> 3:03:01.959 do what you're supposed to do versus what you want 3:03:02.000 --> 3:03:05.160 to do, that's something that should be celebrated, you know. 3:03:05.560 --> 3:03:09.400 And and anybody acting holy er than now, to hell 3:03:09.520 --> 3:03:11.880 with you, because because you can't sit here and act 3:03:11.959 --> 3:03:14.600 like I'm not telling the truth just because it's anotherly, 3:03:14.640 --> 3:03:19.320 truth is still the truth, see the truth. So you 3:03:19.440 --> 3:03:23.440 also made a record where you said don't love Me. Yeah, 3:03:23.760 --> 3:03:28.400 so the new album self Explanatory. Um, the song don't 3:03:28.480 --> 3:03:31.880 love Me? I wrote that, mind you. It didn't start 3:03:31.920 --> 3:03:34.920 out as a song. It started out as a letter. 3:03:35.280 --> 3:03:37.440 There's a letter that I wrote to my wife. And 3:03:37.720 --> 3:03:40.520 feel like you expressed yourself more when you write it down. Yeah, 3:03:40.680 --> 3:03:43.040 I've always been better writing it down, like to to 3:03:43.160 --> 3:03:45.560 speak it out in the in the in the heat 3:03:45.600 --> 3:03:47.160 of the moment. You know what I'm saying. When you 3:03:47.320 --> 3:03:50.200 she pissed off and you pissed off, but you're still 3:03:50.280 --> 3:03:52.279 trying to figure out a way to get your point across. 3:03:52.720 --> 3:03:55.160 I've never been good at that ship And and I've 3:03:55.240 --> 3:03:58.400 always been the cat to say, know myself, know what 3:03:58.560 --> 3:04:00.320 you're not good at, know what you are good at. 3:04:00.360 --> 3:04:04.480 Work towards your strengths, work on your your weaknesses. Right. So, 3:04:05.200 --> 3:04:08.880 if I know that I can't in the moment say 3:04:08.959 --> 3:04:11.879 this to you and get it across to you, I'm 3:04:11.920 --> 3:04:14.240 gonna fall back. I'm a retreat for the moment, and 3:04:14.280 --> 3:04:17.320 I'm gonna write it down right. So that song, that 3:04:17.440 --> 3:04:19.640 particular song started out as a letter that I wrote 3:04:19.680 --> 3:04:23.560 to my wife basically saying to her, I know you 3:04:23.680 --> 3:04:27.400 want to be here, but I don't think that you 3:04:27.440 --> 3:04:29.640 should be here because I don't think that I can 3:04:29.760 --> 3:04:33.320 be the kind of man that you deserve, you know 3:04:33.360 --> 3:04:36.320 what I mean. And it takes a level of vulnerability, 3:04:36.400 --> 3:04:39.480 it takes a level of just just kind of taking 3:04:39.560 --> 3:04:42.960 pride off the table to even come to that realization, 3:04:43.800 --> 3:04:45.720 you know. So, so it's it's a it's a it's 3:04:45.760 --> 3:04:48.400 a no viself moment, Like if you you're in a 3:04:48.480 --> 3:04:52.080 relationship with somebody and you definitely dig that somebody, but 3:04:52.240 --> 3:04:54.920 you know in your heart of hearts and in your 3:04:54.959 --> 3:04:57.520 mind of minds that you're not gonna do what that 3:04:57.640 --> 3:05:01.240 somebody wants you to do. So so I'm sorry because 3:05:01.280 --> 3:05:03.760 it's not It's probably the realest questional party asked on 3:05:03.840 --> 3:05:06.520 this show. So at one point, because this this is 3:05:06.640 --> 3:05:09.360 this is ill, you felt like you couldn't be there 3:05:09.400 --> 3:05:11.160 for your wife so much that you was willing to 3:05:11.240 --> 3:05:17.000 give her away, not give her away, but in the 3:05:17.120 --> 3:05:21.200 relationship because I knew that I was hurting her. I 3:05:21.320 --> 3:05:23.520 knew that the person that I was in the moment 3:05:24.160 --> 3:05:27.680 was hurting her and I was so enthralled, and being 3:05:27.760 --> 3:05:32.360 that person that I was, I looked at it like, 3:05:32.400 --> 3:05:34.680 all right, me being this person is hurting her to 3:05:34.760 --> 3:05:36.879 the point where I'll let her go before I allowed 3:05:36.959 --> 3:05:40.280 myself to continue hurting her, you know what I mean? 3:05:41.000 --> 3:05:43.560 And and and so all right, So so here's the flip. 3:05:43.680 --> 3:05:46.840 Here's the flip, because that was that was honest on me. 3:05:46.959 --> 3:05:49.480 I was being honest. But at the end of the 3:05:49.520 --> 3:05:52.680 same day, we just discussed how we choose desire over 3:05:52.800 --> 3:05:56.720 necessity all day long. Right, So here's what she here's 3:05:56.720 --> 3:05:59.920 what her response to that was. Okay, so you tell 3:06:00.040 --> 3:06:03.800 of me that you can't be this person. Is it 3:06:03.920 --> 3:06:06.440 that you can't be this person? Or is it that 3:06:06.600 --> 3:06:10.160 you won't be this person? Because it's not like there's 3:06:10.240 --> 3:06:13.320 somebody physically holding you back from being this person. Like 3:06:13.480 --> 3:06:16.880 it's it's all decision. It's what you decide to be, 3:06:17.160 --> 3:06:19.920 is who you decide to be, is what you decide 3:06:19.959 --> 3:06:22.840 to do versus what you decide to not do. So 3:06:22.959 --> 3:06:25.080 it's all on you. So if you have told me 3:06:25.160 --> 3:06:26.920 that you can't be this person, you're telling me that 3:06:27.040 --> 3:06:31.360 there's something outside of you that is preventing you from 3:06:31.400 --> 3:06:35.240 being this person. It's either that or it's not that 3:06:35.400 --> 3:06:39.000 you can't be this person, is that you won't be 3:06:39.200 --> 3:06:43.040 this person because again, it's all decision based, So you're 3:06:43.120 --> 3:06:47.240 deciding to not be who you know I need. That's 3:06:47.360 --> 3:06:50.040 that's a decision that you're making. And if that's the 3:06:50.720 --> 3:06:53.000 decision you're making, then yeah, we should get a divorce. 3:06:55.920 --> 3:06:58.280 I have too from a relationship prior to from up 3:06:58.600 --> 3:07:00.520 shout out to money, had a SHOT's mother, my two 3:07:00.560 --> 3:07:03.480 oldest children, it's my home girls, my folks, and then 3:07:03.600 --> 3:07:06.760 we have three together, me and my wife Crystal. Yeah, 3:07:07.680 --> 3:07:11.360 so it but it literally took her pointing that out 3:07:11.400 --> 3:07:15.520 to me for me to realize, Yo, I'm I'm I'm lightweight, 3:07:15.600 --> 3:07:18.840 trying to cop out right now, and she's not letting me. 3:07:19.879 --> 3:07:23.880 She's not letting me cop out. Like there's something to that, man, 3:07:23.879 --> 3:07:26.720 you gotta pay attention to that, Like this woman's love 3:07:26.800 --> 3:07:29.000 for you was so strong that she's not allowing you 3:07:30.400 --> 3:07:33.320 to be a fucking coward right now. She's not allowing 3:07:33.360 --> 3:07:36.400 you to do that. You know, she's holding you accountable 3:07:36.840 --> 3:07:38.840 and making you stand up for what it is as 3:07:38.879 --> 3:07:40.960 you truly want, If you want to be that, Go 3:07:41.200 --> 3:07:44.160 be that, and that's that. But don't tell me that 3:07:44.280 --> 3:07:46.000 you want to be over here but you don't feel 3:07:46.040 --> 3:07:49.240 like you can, because that's bullshit. If you want to 3:07:49.320 --> 3:07:53.080 be here, you're gonna be here. And that's what that's 3:07:53.120 --> 3:07:54.920 the reality of it, and that's the reason that we 3:07:54.959 --> 3:07:57.680 see together because you can't you can't come across somebody 3:07:57.840 --> 3:08:01.920 that is that enlightened and that willing to hold you 3:08:02.000 --> 3:08:04.560 accountable on your bullsheet, even at the level that you are, 3:08:04.680 --> 3:08:08.360 like a nigga, I'm I'm I'm the breadwinner. I take 3:08:08.400 --> 3:08:10.840 care of my family, period. No one has to worry 3:08:11.080 --> 3:08:15.800 or about anything because of me. Right, So there's a 3:08:15.920 --> 3:08:17.920 level of me that says within myself that I'm within 3:08:18.040 --> 3:08:19.440 my right to do whatever the funk I want to 3:08:19.520 --> 3:08:21.000 do because of the fact that I take care of 3:08:21.080 --> 3:08:26.200 everybody in my family. You feel that, but at the 3:08:26.320 --> 3:08:30.000 same time, but at the same time, you decided to 3:08:30.080 --> 3:08:32.760 be married, you decided to take that choice, you decided 3:08:32.760 --> 3:08:36.800 to take that step. That is you saying that though 3:08:36.920 --> 3:08:40.200 you understand, you have the right to do whatever the 3:08:40.280 --> 3:08:41.760 funk you want to do, whatever the funk you want 3:08:41.760 --> 3:08:44.120 to do, because you provide for your whole family, You 3:08:44.160 --> 3:08:49.800 are deciding to consider the emotions and feelings and concern 3:08:49.879 --> 3:08:52.960 of another person. You're you're you're deciding to do that 3:08:53.520 --> 3:08:57.160 to choice that you're making to then turn around and 3:08:57.280 --> 3:08:59.440 like be to then turn around and and and to 3:08:59.560 --> 3:09:03.120 be fun up towards that, Like it's it's it's like, 3:09:03.720 --> 3:09:06.039 it's like you sucking yourself. Fuck you know what I mean. 3:09:06.959 --> 3:09:11.080 It's self destructive self understand mind you, I don't never, 3:09:11.280 --> 3:09:12.760 I don't rever want of my mother fucker to feel like. 3:09:12.959 --> 3:09:16.240 What I'm saying is that it's not it's easy. Na. 3:09:16.959 --> 3:09:20.600 Of course, temptation wouldn't be temptation if it wasn't difficult. 3:09:20.720 --> 3:09:24.360 Like that's the reason that it's called what it's called temptation. Yeah, 3:09:25.440 --> 3:09:27.280 but there's a point in life where you gotta be like, 3:09:27.440 --> 3:09:31.720 all right, do I genuinely care about this person? If 3:09:31.959 --> 3:09:34.480 and if I genuinely care about this person, am I 3:09:34.600 --> 3:09:37.040 going to continue doing the ship that I know is 3:09:37.160 --> 3:09:41.560 genuinely hurting me? As person? You have to outmaneuver temptation 3:09:41.600 --> 3:09:44.960 as well. Yeah, you know what, what what tempts you? Indeed? 3:09:45.280 --> 3:09:49.480 Get out that absolutely absolutely? But see but see so 3:09:49.920 --> 3:10:02.119 does it does a concept? Oh no, only anybody that's 3:10:02.160 --> 3:10:05.440 never seen Neo's head, and it's just just it's just 3:10:05.520 --> 3:10:08.600 a big gas head. The baby. That's it. That's it. 3:10:09.240 --> 3:10:12.800 Ain't nothing wrong and no bucals and a weird tree. 3:10:15.520 --> 3:10:32.520 That's all it is. If m m m m damn, 3:10:32.600 --> 3:10:35.480 my brother, you Yo, you really allegend, though, Bro, you 3:10:35.600 --> 3:10:38.640 really allegend. You really kept it to the R and 3:10:38.720 --> 3:10:44.080 B core. If you know what's strange, I'm gonna tell 3:10:44.080 --> 3:10:52.600 you my my compliment has changed so like now like 3:10:53.120 --> 3:10:54.960 people will run up on me and be like, yo, 3:10:56.000 --> 3:10:59.920 you were my entire high school career, like my entire 3:11:00.120 --> 3:11:08.880 high school experience was you. I'm forty two right names. 3:11:10.320 --> 3:11:15.119 But I have to accept that that is a compliment 3:11:15.280 --> 3:11:17.960 for nigger to be like, yo, you thought it wasn't 3:11:18.640 --> 3:11:21.000 I loved Jim music since I was eleven years old, 3:11:21.080 --> 3:11:25.280 And I'm like, oh shit, oh wow, can I stop 3:11:25.320 --> 3:11:26.560 you for one second. Let me just tell you what 3:11:26.680 --> 3:11:29.320 niggas tell me, Like I did a big to your ship. 3:11:29.440 --> 3:11:35.120 That's fucked up. Why don't you're like back in the day, 3:11:35.240 --> 3:11:38.240 let's be like world up. I'm like, I'm like, my nigger, 3:11:38.280 --> 3:11:41.400 do I owe you someone? Like why didn't you want 3:11:41.480 --> 3:11:43.240 didn't you go to jail for me? Why did you 3:11:43.320 --> 3:11:51.520 feel like you listen to my music? Music? So at 3:11:51.560 --> 3:11:56.640 least but they made mute, they made babies. Yeah, No, 3:11:56.800 --> 3:12:01.039 it's just I feel like the music industry is very 3:12:01.120 --> 3:12:05.800 good at, uh hiding from you, from you the fact 3:12:05.879 --> 3:12:11.400 that you were aging. They're forty two years old. That 3:12:11.520 --> 3:12:19.200 listener after her, he agent, you're looking good. No no, no, no, 3:12:19.320 --> 3:12:22.280 no no, no, I'm nothing. I'm handsome as funk. I 3:12:22.360 --> 3:12:25.680 know that, say that. I say that with zero ego. 3:12:25.720 --> 3:12:30.000 I'm a beautiful motherfucker. What I'm saying is to know 3:12:30.320 --> 3:12:32.960 that my album came out and like, oh what it was? 3:12:33.080 --> 3:12:37.640 Oh six oh six were in you know what I'm saying, 3:12:37.760 --> 3:12:41.560 Like he came out of oh six were two years after? 3:12:41.680 --> 3:12:49.200 I don't know, and you know your officiology. But yeah, 3:12:49.440 --> 3:12:52.200 so it's it's like I'm either uncle or o g now. 3:12:53.240 --> 3:12:56.200 And it's different. It's different from when I first came 3:12:56.240 --> 3:12:58.520 out and the love that I would get when I 3:12:58.560 --> 3:13:00.560 first came out versus the love that I get now. 3:13:00.920 --> 3:13:03.720 It's still loves, but it's a different kind of love. 3:13:03.800 --> 3:13:06.240 It's like I grew up to you the type of 3:13:06.320 --> 3:13:10.680 love and and I mean I guess it's just me. 3:13:11.040 --> 3:13:13.400 Like when I'm in the moment, when I'm moving to shaking, 3:13:13.840 --> 3:13:16.560 I don't realize the time this passing. Like Nigga, we 3:13:16.720 --> 3:13:21.400 we toured off of in my own work, not in 3:13:21.440 --> 3:13:24.360 my own words. You're the gentleman. We toured off a 3:13:24.440 --> 3:13:27.640 year to the general for three years straight. We're talking 3:13:27.640 --> 3:13:33.840 about this Niga on the road three years. You come 3:13:33.879 --> 3:13:36.680 home for two days and you back out like three 3:13:36.800 --> 3:13:44.280 years straight. Once that ship is done and you come 3:13:44.360 --> 3:13:47.320 home and it's like, oh, ship Nigga, we did win 3:13:47.400 --> 3:13:50.360 three Grammys. Oh ship Nigga. We did. We did sell 3:13:50.440 --> 3:13:53.400 this many records. Oh ship Nigga, we did do Wimbley 3:13:53.440 --> 3:13:56.480 Stadium eighty thousand. Motherfucker's jumping up and jumping up and 3:13:56.520 --> 3:13:58.920 down at the same time, Like you know what I'm saying, 3:13:58.959 --> 3:14:02.040 It hits you all at one moment, like yo, we 3:14:02.200 --> 3:14:05.120 have fucking we have made moves in this ship, but 3:14:05.280 --> 3:14:09.600 not until until you sit still. So to sit still now, 3:14:09.720 --> 3:14:12.120 it's like I'm forty two years old, you know what 3:14:12.160 --> 3:14:16.360 I'm saying. And I'll do these little walk through these 3:14:16.400 --> 3:14:19.840 little host things or whatever, and it's like a little 3:14:19.920 --> 3:14:21.879 chicks run up on me. Like, oh my god, I've 3:14:21.920 --> 3:14:25.360 loved you since I was twelve, and it's like, how 3:14:25.400 --> 3:14:29.320 do you take that? You know? I mean, it's love, 3:14:29.560 --> 3:14:32.560 She's given love. I've loved you since I was twelve, 3:14:32.720 --> 3:14:34.960 So sick came out when I was twelve years old. 3:14:36.640 --> 3:14:40.520 Fuck she's but listen, listen, you know how you take this. 3:14:41.120 --> 3:14:43.640 Let's let's think about the icons we've spoke about on 3:14:43.760 --> 3:14:49.680 the show already, the Stevie Wonders, the Bobby Browns, the 3:14:49.800 --> 3:14:57.160 Michael Jackson's, the Princess. It's generational. Age is age. We're 3:14:57.280 --> 3:15:04.920 all gonna age understand age to do it. That's no, no, no, 3:15:05.080 --> 3:15:08.039 that's reality. That's that's actually true. I'm like, yo, I'm 3:15:08.080 --> 3:15:09.720 not gonna try fuck it. This is good. I didn't 3:15:09.720 --> 3:15:12.440 think it was good white, but that's another story. Good, 3:15:12.800 --> 3:15:15.880 he's good. He's good. But it's true. It's ages, and 3:15:16.000 --> 3:15:21.360 that doesn't make sense. We're all do it. We want 3:15:21.360 --> 3:15:24.039 to be legend. Look and what we're doing in entertainment. 3:15:24.640 --> 3:15:26.720 Listen to the legends that we talked about, the icons 3:15:26.760 --> 3:15:30.440 we've spoken about. You can't let that bother you because 3:15:30.480 --> 3:15:36.160 you are leading to that icon status. You want to 3:15:36.200 --> 3:15:40.640 be that person that transcends generations, not that one eleven 3:15:40.720 --> 3:15:42.680 year old or that seventeen year old, or someone calls 3:15:42.720 --> 3:15:46.200 it o G. Someone calls you onto your own gole 3:15:46.320 --> 3:15:50.600 or whatever your fingers. That don't matter. M that's real. 3:15:50.920 --> 3:15:54.560 That's real with ticktok'll funk with TikTok. I have I 3:15:54.640 --> 3:15:57.000 have a I have a love hate relationship with TikTok. 3:15:57.480 --> 3:16:01.000 It feels say that because mind you, because of TikTok. 3:16:02.200 --> 3:16:05.080 My my record because of you is charting right now. 3:16:05.360 --> 3:16:08.000 You know what I'm saying. That's from my second fucking album. 3:16:08.240 --> 3:16:10.600 I've been here damn to twenty years. A song from 3:16:10.640 --> 3:16:15.800 my second album's charting because of TikTok because some little 3:16:15.840 --> 3:16:19.160 cats somewhere decided to get on there and and and 3:16:19.360 --> 3:16:23.440 and figure out to dance whatever to my ship. So 3:16:23.600 --> 3:16:28.920 I can't I can't ever, I can't what I'm saying, 3:16:29.080 --> 3:16:31.280 I can't ever feel a way about TikTok because that 3:16:31.600 --> 3:16:36.440 that reality is reality. However, at the same time, there 3:16:36.480 --> 3:16:40.240 are songs that I've discovered via TikTok. There's artists that 3:16:40.360 --> 3:16:44.000 I've discovered via TikTok, And it's like what happens more 3:16:44.080 --> 3:16:47.040 often than not is that you hear the song on 3:16:47.120 --> 3:16:50.920 TikTok for the first time, well whatever, you know, clever 3:16:51.040 --> 3:16:55.360 ass video or creative whatever, whatever the case may be. 3:16:56.040 --> 3:16:58.920 And then you go to Apple Music, you go to Spotify, 3:16:59.120 --> 3:17:02.000 pandor or whatever Top two, and you listen to the 3:17:02.080 --> 3:17:06.200 whole record and you realize the only part of the 3:17:06.280 --> 3:17:14.480 song that you like is the TikTok that is damaging there, 3:17:14.760 --> 3:17:17.199 that is damaging to the point where there's literally cats 3:17:17.320 --> 3:17:22.000 going to the studio creating records specifically for the TikTok. 3:17:24.360 --> 3:17:27.360 You get fifteen minutes of quality, you get thirty minutes 3:17:27.400 --> 3:17:30.160 of quality. Anything after that it don't even fucking matter 3:17:30.360 --> 3:17:33.040 because you got your fifteen seconds. You got your fifteen 3:17:33.160 --> 3:17:35.840 your thirty seconds, right, you know what I mean. So 3:17:36.160 --> 3:17:40.720 that's that's the love and hate again. I've discovered artists 3:17:40.760 --> 3:17:45.120 off of TikTok. I've discovered music off of TikTok. But 3:17:45.240 --> 3:17:47.360 at the same time, for a cat to go into 3:17:47.440 --> 3:17:51.199 the studio and create art based off of what based 3:17:51.240 --> 3:17:55.840 off of the boundaries that TikTok has created, that's a 3:17:55.959 --> 3:17:59.119 problem for me personally, you know what I mean, that's 3:17:59.120 --> 3:18:02.640 a problem for me. I had to accept the fact 3:18:02.720 --> 3:18:08.840 that as music evolves. Attentions fans are shorter. Now, so 3:18:09.000 --> 3:18:11.080 where you know, shout out to the boy, what's what's 3:18:11.360 --> 3:18:15.000 what's my boy? Cappella? Cappella Gray, what's his name? It's 3:18:15.040 --> 3:18:20.240 about the gallus Gallas. This is my palace. But I'm 3:18:20.240 --> 3:18:23.240 gonna do this song is like two songs amazing. Don't 3:18:23.240 --> 3:18:26.400 talk about shouted to the boy I made you Cappella Gray. 3:18:26.520 --> 3:18:28.280 I don't know his name. I'm whack. I'm right now, 3:18:28.360 --> 3:18:31.080 but shout out to him. But but that is just 3:18:31.920 --> 3:18:35.279 prime example of the fact that attention spans are shorter. 3:18:35.480 --> 3:18:38.960 Now that that's not a like for the standard of 3:18:39.080 --> 3:18:41.720 what a song is supposed to be. That's not a 3:18:41.800 --> 3:18:45.840 full So it's two it's two minutes, it's a two 3:18:45.920 --> 3:18:53.320 minute records shorter. Second, bro right, this is TikTok's This 3:18:53.480 --> 3:18:59.040 is TikTok's uh algorithm. Yeah, this is there, this is 3:18:59.360 --> 3:19:03.000 this is why it is what it is. TikTok text 3:19:03.160 --> 3:19:06.800 has created this to where anything over two minutes too long. 3:19:07.879 --> 3:19:10.600 Then they banked on the fact that attention spans are shorter, 3:19:11.160 --> 3:19:14.560 and they and and they played to that you get 3:19:14.640 --> 3:19:18.720 fifteen seconds. That does that make you make records different? 3:19:19.920 --> 3:19:23.360 Not me? That will make an artist make records different. 3:19:23.760 --> 3:19:26.400 But I don't make music specifically for TikTok. I make 3:19:26.520 --> 3:19:29.640 music for people. Now, if a person finds it within 3:19:29.760 --> 3:19:32.560 theirselfs to take fifteen seconds of a song that I 3:19:32.640 --> 3:19:36.240 created and do something TikTok to it, I'm not gonna 3:19:36.280 --> 3:19:38.920 stand in this way. But I will never go in 3:19:38.959 --> 3:19:42.640 the studio like, all right, let's create some records. I'm 3:19:42.680 --> 3:19:47.400 not that's I'm not doing that. I'm not doing I'm 3:19:47.440 --> 3:19:50.320 not doing Come on. I came in, but I came 3:19:50.400 --> 3:19:52.960 up in an era where Luther Andres could do a 3:19:53.000 --> 3:19:55.480 ten minutes song and he didn't realize it was ten 3:19:55.480 --> 3:19:58.480 minutes until it was over. You know I'm talking about 3:19:58.959 --> 3:20:02.440 because you was just in the whole time, every fun, 3:20:02.640 --> 3:20:07.200 every swell, every lyric, every every fucking uh violin lick 3:20:07.480 --> 3:20:10.600 whatever that you was in, and then the ship was over, 3:20:10.720 --> 3:20:15.840 and you're like, oh ship, but in minutes. That's where 3:20:15.879 --> 3:20:19.400 I come from. That's where I come from. And to 3:20:19.520 --> 3:20:21.800 truly get your point across, I'm sorry. Sometimes to take 3:20:21.840 --> 3:20:23.800 a look takes a little longer than two minutes. It 3:20:23.879 --> 3:20:28.359 takes a little longer than you know. In my opinion, 3:20:29.120 --> 3:20:32.480 it might be you need three verses. Yeah, at least 3:20:32.959 --> 3:20:35.960 at least so let me ask you out. When John 3:20:36.080 --> 3:20:39.080 comes to you, that actually about so he said Tanna earlier. 3:20:39.320 --> 3:20:42.119 I don't know if you called it. But Elton John 3:20:42.640 --> 3:20:46.960 comes to you, Old John says, I want you the 3:20:47.040 --> 3:20:52.280 writer record for me. But it gives you the subject matter. 3:20:52.560 --> 3:20:55.720 It's not necessarily something that you are part of your 3:20:55.800 --> 3:20:59.320 straight man. Yes, we want to stand there, but John 3:20:59.440 --> 3:21:02.640 want to go ranching right, he wanted to do that. 3:21:03.000 --> 3:21:06.240 How do you how do you go about saying, oh, John, 3:21:06.320 --> 3:21:11.440 I got you to be a To be a songwriter, 3:21:12.680 --> 3:21:15.240 to step out in front of the world and declare 3:21:15.320 --> 3:21:20.160 yourself a songwriter is to declare yourself a public servant, 3:21:21.440 --> 3:21:25.119 meaning I am a person that writes music for the world. 3:21:25.720 --> 3:21:28.200 I'm a person that writes music for the world to enjoy. 3:21:28.840 --> 3:21:31.280 If Elton John comes to me and says he wants 3:21:31.360 --> 3:21:35.440 to write a gay anthem, but I'm not gay. But 3:21:35.560 --> 3:21:37.480 he comes to me and says he likes the way 3:21:37.560 --> 3:21:41.039 that I use words, then I'm gonna jump in. I'm 3:21:41.040 --> 3:21:43.640 gonna jump in. And that's what it's that. That's that's 3:21:43.640 --> 3:21:44.840 what I try to get a lot of these young 3:21:44.959 --> 3:21:49.960 songwriters to understand. The more versaustl you are, the bigger 3:21:50.000 --> 3:21:53.160 the potential for your bag. If a gay artist comes 3:21:53.160 --> 3:21:54.959 to you and ask for a song and you're not gay, 3:21:56.160 --> 3:21:58.240 so what You're not gonna write the song doesn't mean 3:21:58.280 --> 3:22:00.720 you're The way you write it is for you, it's 3:22:01.440 --> 3:22:04.119 no you find you find a way to tap into 3:22:04.320 --> 3:22:07.920 their ship. You find a way. That's I got into songwriting. 3:22:08.000 --> 3:22:12.120 I can't friend about this. I got into songwriting because 3:22:12.160 --> 3:22:15.440 of the ability to not be me. There was a 3:22:15.480 --> 3:22:17.400 point in my life where I ain't want to be me. 3:22:17.680 --> 3:22:19.560 I ain't want to I ain't want my reality. I 3:22:19.680 --> 3:22:23.680 want any other reality but mine. Songwriting allows that. If 3:22:23.680 --> 3:22:25.880 I write a song for Beyonce in that moment, I'm 3:22:25.959 --> 3:22:30.520 sucking Beyonce, Goddamn, I'm I'm hurt, I'm here, I'm whoever 3:22:30.640 --> 3:22:33.320 the fuck? You know what I'm saying, I'm not I'm 3:22:33.360 --> 3:22:38.440 not me, And that was the the attraction to songwriting. Initially. 3:22:38.560 --> 3:22:40.360 I ain't want to be me for a minute. You 3:22:40.400 --> 3:22:42.840 know what I'm saying. It's it's it's it's it's deep, 3:22:42.879 --> 3:22:44.800 and it's darkness, dumb, and I don't want to go there. 3:22:44.920 --> 3:22:47.160 But there was a point in my life where anything 3:22:47.320 --> 3:22:50.520 outside of who I was was good for me, and 3:22:50.680 --> 3:22:54.680 that's what helped me really lock into songwriting, you know 3:22:54.720 --> 3:22:57.480 what I mean. So if you're writing for somebody other 3:22:57.560 --> 3:23:00.920 than yourself, you have to consider the fact that you're 3:23:00.959 --> 3:23:05.240 writing for somebody other than you. This is not about 3:23:06.160 --> 3:23:09.840 a person that likes Mexican food and digs of color red. No, 3:23:10.080 --> 3:23:13.720 you're writing for somebody else. This is somebody outside of you. 3:23:13.879 --> 3:23:17.280 This motherfucker likes purple and and and fucking Italian food, 3:23:17.320 --> 3:23:20.520 whatever the fuck. Whatever the fuck, you lock into that 3:23:20.680 --> 3:23:24.080 and you're right from there. That's that's that's how I've 3:23:24.120 --> 3:23:26.280 always got it in and that ship is works for me. 3:23:27.240 --> 3:23:30.440 Anybody could come to you, anybody write a subject about 3:23:30.440 --> 3:23:33.560 anybody like abody, if a person like pistachio ice cream. 3:23:34.080 --> 3:23:40.680 M hm hm no, no, no, because I see what 3:23:40.760 --> 3:23:43.880 you're doing. Go and you have you ever had past 3:23:44.560 --> 3:23:46.959 I have. I'm not a fan. I'm not a fan. 3:23:49.600 --> 3:23:53.360 And Beyonce came to me and said, yo, I love 3:23:53.520 --> 3:23:55.760 pistachio ice cream and I want to sing about it. 3:23:57.240 --> 3:24:00.600 I'm gonna writer. I don't write, just want to make 3:24:00.720 --> 3:24:04.640 you like pistachio ice cream. If you don't your cream. 3:24:05.160 --> 3:24:08.520 You will do something like it too. I'm gonna write 3:24:08.560 --> 3:24:10.320 this song to make you go yo. I ain't never 3:24:10.400 --> 3:24:15.400 had pistetio ice cream, but let's get some. I'm gonna 3:24:15.400 --> 3:24:18.920 write that record. That's that's the that's the mentality, you 3:24:19.000 --> 3:24:21.199 know what I'm saying. That's that's what it is. Ice 3:24:21.280 --> 3:24:23.959 King in Queens, New York. That was y'all shout out 3:24:23.959 --> 3:24:30.000 because that's my favorite Italian excuse me, ice cream shout 3:24:30.040 --> 3:24:36.320 out for staff your ice cream. I'm sorry, well I would, Yes, 3:24:36.959 --> 3:24:38.960 you want to smoke a blood with me, I've been 3:24:39.800 --> 3:24:43.520 I've been smoking a blood. Let's smoke a blood together, 3:24:43.760 --> 3:24:47.360 real blood. Give my blood blood. Listen. I came here 3:24:47.440 --> 3:24:53.440 from the airport, right, we try to give straight here. 3:24:54.480 --> 3:24:56.680 The newcases in the back room over there, all right, okay, 3:24:57.040 --> 3:25:01.840 funk with y'all. It's like funk with y'all. I just 3:25:02.200 --> 3:25:04.800 I've worked hard enough in this business to be like, hey, 3:25:05.280 --> 3:25:08.320 I understand y'all got a time frame, but I'm gonna 3:25:08.320 --> 3:25:10.840 go to the hotel and get my ships straight and 3:25:10.879 --> 3:25:14.280 get him with y'all. I've worked hard enough to you 3:25:14.680 --> 3:25:26.120 to demand that. Came here the airport when job you 3:25:26.240 --> 3:25:28.280 know why you know why, I'm gonna be honest. Man, 3:25:28.720 --> 3:25:31.400 were so artists friendly, were so artists basic, and we 3:25:31.520 --> 3:25:34.640 so the thing about it is, I've lived this life 3:25:34.879 --> 3:25:38.360 that you're living. I lived it, and I want to 3:25:38.480 --> 3:25:40.960 I want to salute it, like I love this life 3:25:41.000 --> 3:25:43.880 so much. Has changed my life. Like I literally had 3:25:44.000 --> 3:25:45.880 six months to find a job when I came home 3:25:45.920 --> 3:25:49.600 from jail, and my job that I found was hip hop. 3:25:51.080 --> 3:25:53.880 That's saved my life. So this is my way of 3:25:53.959 --> 3:25:56.440 giving back, And this is my way of seeing people 3:25:56.520 --> 3:26:01.240 like you, you know who came up probably after me, 3:26:01.840 --> 3:26:05.760 but you came up and you got that. You deserve 3:26:05.840 --> 3:26:08.840 your flowers, You deserved people to tell you how great 3:26:08.920 --> 3:26:11.880 you are to your motherfucking face. And I'm gonna do it. 3:26:12.360 --> 3:26:14.480 And then you don't take nothing away from me. I 3:26:14.520 --> 3:26:16.560 don't take nothing. I'm still I'm still the ill nigger 3:26:16.600 --> 3:26:20.520 that I am. But to tell you that motherfucking Neo 3:26:20.640 --> 3:26:28.840 is a motherfucking and all the ship you did and 3:26:29.240 --> 3:26:31.920 continue to do, and all the artists that you work with. 3:26:32.000 --> 3:26:34.400 When I looked at your discography, and I looked at 3:26:34.440 --> 3:26:36.280 because you know that's what I do. I google, but 3:26:36.360 --> 3:26:38.920 I like I like Foogo it's not like really Google, 3:26:39.000 --> 3:26:41.880 like I like half freegoogl right, So because guys, but 3:26:42.200 --> 3:26:45.240 all I and then when I see your name and 3:26:45.320 --> 3:26:48.280 when I see your name attached to all these other names, 3:26:48.320 --> 3:26:51.280 and I was just like, damn, this is this is 3:26:51.400 --> 3:26:54.160 so dope for my homie to come because because I 3:26:54.320 --> 3:26:56.920 know you from back there, but but for my homie 3:26:57.000 --> 3:26:59.920 to come and bless us because that's what you choose 3:27:00.160 --> 3:27:01.600 is you could have been in any world in the 3:27:01.720 --> 3:27:05.440 world tonight. You can't here though, but you're here with 3:27:05.560 --> 3:27:15.320 drink chance, So thank you so much. And don't mix 3:27:15.400 --> 3:27:18.440 that drink. Hit it straight cast. So bo up now. 3:27:18.520 --> 3:27:23.040 I was too late. Don't mix that drink. It's straight cast. 3:27:23.160 --> 3:27:26.439 So bo up now, I was too late. Drink Japanese 3:27:26.520 --> 3:27:32.160 whiskey preferably yeah Zaka eight teams. Definitely, I still got you, 3:27:32.640 --> 3:27:35.200 like who got out? You spending big money since big 3:27:35.320 --> 3:27:37.959 hat who shot you? Time? And is everything? So why 3:27:38.040 --> 3:27:40.920 you gotta whack watch? I got security and snipers on 3:27:40.959 --> 3:27:43.640 the black block. They thinking Keto when I'm saying one 3:27:43.720 --> 3:27:46.080 mill of day, ain't talking fact that when I'm talking 3:27:46.160 --> 3:27:48.760 one mill of day, could probably double it by leaving 3:27:48.800 --> 3:27:52.000 out the country before keep my at home. I'm happy, mom, 3:27:52.040 --> 3:27:55.920 fleet secure like Ray. I interview with Isasa raymore blush 3:27:56.000 --> 3:27:58.120 against the hips that be on Lisa Ray wikes that 3:27:58.320 --> 3:28:01.120 drink and it's straight and it's cast. So for up now, 3:28:01.160 --> 3:28:04.440 I was too late. Don't make that drink and it's 3:28:04.480 --> 3:28:07.400 straight cast, So war up now, I was too late 3:28:08.480 --> 3:28:14.040 coming drink with me. Get shook and drunk to come 3:28:14.160 --> 3:28:19.280 and drink with me. Get your coups to come through time. 3:28:19.320 --> 3:28:22.960 I'm really happy. I'm really yeappy, really drinking your jews 3:28:23.000 --> 3:28:26.879 because y'all drink pappy fad winkle. My suits don't winkle. 3:28:27.160 --> 3:28:31.040 Always had the piss. I never had the twinkle, nor remasculine. 3:28:31.440 --> 3:28:34.240 We had Tomasgulate, big boy trumps in the big boys. 3:28:34.280 --> 3:28:36.360 We had to left. I see they claiming that they 3:28:36.480 --> 3:28:39.040 rich to the bill, come to they accident or I 3:28:39.120 --> 3:28:41.520 got him, like they tell drawing a new life to me, 3:28:41.680 --> 3:28:44.959 like new life to me is cocaine a whole new 3:28:45.080 --> 3:28:47.920 white to me? I see they copy me without a gun. 3:28:48.000 --> 3:28:51.480 It's still a robbery drink. Chances a phenomenalone looks that 3:28:51.640 --> 3:28:54.560 drink and it's straight cast, So w up now, I 3:28:54.720 --> 3:28:59.080 was too late, don't make that drink and it's straight cast. 3:28:59.120 --> 3:29:03.000 So up now it's too late. Come in drink with me, 3:29:03.440 --> 3:29:08.960 Get get drunk, to come in drink with me, Get 3:29:11.120 --> 3:29:15.280 come through. Thanks for joining us for another episode of 3:29:15.360 --> 3:29:17.840 Drink Champs, hosted by Yours truly, d J E F 3:29:18.320 --> 3:29:20.440 and n O r E. 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