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Speaker 1: come through. Welcome to Drink Champs, the production of The

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Speaker 1: Black Effect and I Heart Radio and it's Drink chas

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Speaker 1: motherfucking podcast. He's a legendary queen's rapper. He's like Green

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Speaker 1: is your boy in O R. He's a Miami hip

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Speaker 1: know they're doing that. I'm sitting in the corner waiting. Uh.

422
00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 1: He starts playing her some the music that. Yeah. So

423
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,640
Speaker 1: she looked at me. She goes, your does your music? Yeah?

424
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 1: You wrote this? Yeah that you're singing too? Yeah? Can

425
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:11,200
Speaker 1: you dance a little bit? Yeah, Okay, let's turn the

426
00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,280
Speaker 1: music up. She said, go for it. I'm like, what, no,

427
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 1: mind you again. I'm just I'm well, I'm hungry, Like,

428
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,400
Speaker 1: can y'all pick this up so we can go eat

429
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 1: Damn I'm hung already go I'm like, all right, y'all

430
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:29,720
Speaker 1: know in in Tina Davis's office. Yeah, so she turns

431
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:31,760
Speaker 1: your music up and she says back, like, go for it,

432
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,720
Speaker 1: stone face go oh ship, Well, I'm not gonna challenge me.

433
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,200
Speaker 1: So I got up. I'm performed before the whole not again,

434
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 1: no response whatsoever. So I'm like, all right, this is

435
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 1: a waste of time. As soon as I got finished,

436
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:46,439
Speaker 1: she said, hey, yeah, Mr Reed, I think I got

437
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:50,280
Speaker 1: somebody you should beat. And the rest of his root

438
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:56,080
Speaker 1: from there, the rest is history. Accidentally got a record

439
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:59,719
Speaker 1: there in the midst of you actively trying to shop

440
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,200
Speaker 1: this moment, you wasn't trying to shut not at all,

441
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 1: not at all. And Read and l a Read he

442
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,440
Speaker 1: doesn't put on baby face all this Now? Is this

443
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:11,159
Speaker 1: surreal for you? Do you know who? L A Read? Is?

444
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 1: Absolutely a matter of fact. When she got off the phone,

445
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 1: I said, you said, Mr Read, that's that's that's She's like, yeah, yeah,

446
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 1: we're about to go meet him right now. Okay cool.

447
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:29,439
Speaker 1: So yeah it was. It was definitely a surreal situation. Um,

448
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,199
Speaker 1: you got in there, he says his first words to me,

449
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,440
Speaker 1: and so you're the next big thing. Huh, Like funk,

450
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,879
Speaker 1: what the fund is happening right now? Because the selling

451
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,440
Speaker 1: you or something else. So I performed for him, him

452
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,959
Speaker 1: and his tastemakers. It's him and like like nine other

453
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,439
Speaker 1: people in the room. Everybody. I feel like the Chinese

454
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 1: woman was in there. There was definitely a Chinese woman

455
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 1: in there. You don't come about Yeah, you know what

456
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 1: I'm talking about, Karen Karen kwak, God damn it. So

457
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 1: the performer, performer, performer, I get done. He goes, all right,

458
00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 1: thank you very much. Can I talk to about people?

459
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,240
Speaker 1: Step outside. We sat outside in the lobby of his

460
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 1: of his office for like an hour, like a solid hour,

461
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 1: to the point I turned this offs like yeah, man,

462
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 1: let's just go. Clearly they ain't interested. It wouldn't be

463
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,719
Speaker 1: taking this long. Let's just go. So as we're leaving,

464
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 1: somebody pokes their head out the wind like, hey, um,

465
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 1: what is your lawyer information? Because Mystery wants to give

466
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,680
Speaker 1: you a record deal? And it was it was like

467
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:24,920
Speaker 1: a I'm trying to find the words to explain how

468
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,359
Speaker 1: I was there, but I wasn't there, you know what

469
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 1: I mean. It's like, this is this is not really

470
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 1: this can't be really happening. You know how hard, how

471
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:34,680
Speaker 1: long we've been trying to make this happen, and and

472
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,120
Speaker 1: just on the on the humbug it happens. This can't

473
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:38,920
Speaker 1: be real now I'm gonna wake up in a minute.

474
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:43,400
Speaker 1: But yeah, it was. It was a beautiful situation. Man,

475
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:50,399
Speaker 1: what's up you ain't got quick time, so I'm ready. Okay,

476
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,200
Speaker 1: cool cool, cool cool, Holy mo, get on my notes,

477
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:58,120
Speaker 1: Let me go on my notes. Okay, yes, yes, yes,

478
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,440
Speaker 1: yes yes. So what are the writers? Were you inspired

479
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:05,200
Speaker 1: by that? Other song writers that I was inspired or

480
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 1: any artists that you're inspired by? Um, well, you know

481
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:09,880
Speaker 1: what it's It's actually funny in that moment when I'm

482
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 1: in Tina David's office and uh, she's asking me about

483
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 1: the music I got finished performing. He was waiting to

484
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 1: go in l A's office, and she said to me,

485
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 1: is there any artists out there that kind of like

486
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,440
Speaker 1: keeps you on your toes? You know what I'm saying,

487
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,159
Speaker 1: somebody that you always check them for it just to

488
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,200
Speaker 1: you know, keeps you on your toes. And the second

489
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,440
Speaker 1: she said that, usher's yeah, video came on. Yeah that

490
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,919
Speaker 1: dude right there. She's like, interesting, I'm about to put

491
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 1: you in front of the man and made him shit.

492
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 1: It was it was yeah, it was right moment. Yeah,

493
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 1: Holy moli GUACAMOLEI man, this is some good ship. This

494
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 1: is some good ship, all right? Um play hard with

495
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 1: David Gutta at a calm. Yeah. I don't know how

496
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:52,199
Speaker 1: to pronounce this ship. How how did how did they

497
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 1: call you? How who called you? What was happening? How

498
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 1: did you so? I? Um I did something with David

499
00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 1: Ghetto already and then um so okay, so the funny thing,

500
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 1: damn can I even say this? Yeah? The music is

501
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 1: all right? So that hook that work hard, play hard?

502
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 1: That was supposed to be uh for the remix to

503
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:17,159
Speaker 1: with Wiz Khalifa's uh the WIRs Khalifa joint? Which one?

504
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 1: He got a lot of joints. The wonder where the

505
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 1: one way he says something about work hard, play hard

506
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 1: on which one it would the record he probably don't

507
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 1: even remember. He got to huh, you've been sucking up

508
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 1: all down you ain't been well. It wasn't that record,

509
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 1: but it was supposed to be the remix to to

510
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 1: wis Wis Kalifa joint, and Uh I finished it and

511
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 1: David get David was like, no, this is this is

512
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 1: this is bigger than the remix. This is this is

513
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,640
Speaker 1: a record. So then he put uh put a con

514
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 1: on it akin been a friend for a long time,

515
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 1: you know, it's just the hommy Yeah, man, it was

516
00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,200
Speaker 1: it was It was easy. David Gjenna is one of

517
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 1: them cats. That before he became David Getta. He's just

518
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:05,959
Speaker 1: he's just a music dude. You know. Some of these

519
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,159
Speaker 1: cats that do it clearly for for the money and

520
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 1: for the recognition of it. David ghett to do it

521
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 1: because he loved music, you know. And and that's that

522
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:16,120
Speaker 1: was our initial connection. We've been cool ever since. Trying

523
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 1: to sell you properly in Africa. He didn't, Yeah, but

524
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 1: he didn't. He didn't do it like I'm trying to

525
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 1: sell you something. He was like, he was like, this

526
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,640
Speaker 1: is cool, right, yeah, yeah, you should be a part

527
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 1: of the Yea, he got me. What's the price? Man?

528
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 1: You're going? Man? All right, I just want to say that. Man,

529
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 1: I gotta gon do it Africa. That's just hard. That's

530
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 1: just even if Yeah yeah Africa. Man, he's still building

531
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 1: Wakando over there. Yea, I might ride. Oh man, Man,

532
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 1: We've got a quick time of slim. Okay, this is

533
00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 1: a game. It's a game played with all the guests.

534
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 1: All right, so we ask you do you are a

535
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 1: b choice if you be politically to conrect and do

536
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 1: you wanna uh not please the fifth? The fifth, then

537
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 1: you gotta take a shot both and if you say

538
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 1: neither you take a shot. But so it's pretty pretty

539
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 1: much FO you want to take, you want to stick

540
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 1: with the rock, We take the shots. We don't leave

541
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 1: you the same. I'm gonna drink this Japanese whiskey. I

542
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 1: mean streaming Japanese deadly. Y'all know what I'm saying. You

543
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You know. Yeah, I'm from Japan,

544
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 1: you know, by the way. But yeah, smoke, Okay, I'm

545
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 1: gonna get mine, Juanna, I'm gonna get mine ready in

546
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 1: the building. You're ready? Yeah? Why do I feel like

547
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 1: you're about to give me in trouble? No? No, no,

548
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 1: I mean you can't play and safe. We just drink

549
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 1: a lot. Yeah, you want to go first? You all right?

550
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 1: Got it? Oh? This is good. It's a good you're

551
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 1: drinking off top. Uh, Michael Jackson or Prince, I don't

552
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 1: get my shot ready? Uh just take the shot, damn shot?

553
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 1: What I got? Yeah? Leave him the bottom. Just kind

554
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 1: of question a moment. Okay, you're drinking. Look that was

555
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 1: either don't have to you can take half of that.

556
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 1: You can take half. You might as well get your

557
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 1: shot ready. You definitely don't have to pull that heaven

558
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 1: because you're definitely you're not gonna do that. You definitely

559
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 1: you definitely. UM have to be politically correct on this one.

560
00:30:55,400 --> 00:31:00,959
Speaker 1: All right, let's go Beyonce or just take this up.

561
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:06,239
Speaker 1: Let take that off. Let me just hold o my god. Okay, wait,

562
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 1: what's what's what's the question? Exactly? Whatever? It is? It

563
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 1: musically being reality period your mind? Yeah, you just take

564
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 1: literally correct. I can't. Yeah, I can't. I can Okay,

565
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 1: don't you just do Yeah? Yeah, you gotta go crazy

566
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 1: solottle kid. I feel like this game is fixed. Let

567
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:36,959
Speaker 1: me just say that I've been set up. Yes you have, sir.

568
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 1: This is one I don't know, but it could go

569
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 1: either way. Tupac or dmx A Tupac, Alicia Keys or

570
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: Kadu sh uh uh okay note against Alicia. I love

571
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 1: you to death. I love you. Don't don't don't think

572
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 1: I'm hey, did you did you? Did you support Erica

573
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 1: bardus incense? I did not. I don't think no married man,

574
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 1: you have pussy instance, my wife loves you too. But

575
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 1: like that, I don't even act likely notable. But the

576
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 1: product is I did. I did, But because I think

577
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 1: that's women empowerment. I believe in our house to smell

578
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: like Erica. But I don't think so, sir, I don't

579
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 1: think I think that's accurate. Uh, ice cube or iced tea, mhm,

580
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 1: all of them. Respect for ice Cube, but I'm gonna

581
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 1: say ice because he let me see call go booty

582
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 1: one time. I'm sorry, said, what did you say, doesn't

583
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 1: mean squeeze called booty ones like? Respectfully? Yes it was,

584
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 1: it was respectfully. It was a Halloween party, right, And

585
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 1: how does this work? You have grappy, wife's asked, I

586
00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: literally walked up to your mind. I had had a

587
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 1: couple of drinks at this point. I walked up to

588
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 1: him and I said, because she had on like she has.

589
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 1: So I walked up to him and I was like, bro,

590
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 1: all due respect, h I've wanted to squeeze Coco's asked

591
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 1: for a really long time. And he said, you know what,

592
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 1: and I'm just kind of pimp to let you do it.

593
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 1: And he called over and he whispered something in her ear,

594
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 1: and she looked at him and smiled, and it looked

595
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 1: at me and smiled and turned around and bent the

596
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 1: thing over and I grabbed as much of a handful

597
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 1: as I could. He gave me a pound and we

598
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 1: finished and we drinking hung out for its to night.

599
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 1: That was that. I'm trying to figure out who's more

600
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 1: gainst in the situation, him or cocoa or is it

601
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 1: all It might just be a I'm taking a shot

602
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 1: for that. I'm sorry that the shot shut up. My

603
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 1: friend shot right now outside just because of that. That was.

604
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 1: That was a moment for me. He got there, a

605
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 1: moment weized all of us. He threw me off with

606
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 1: that one. You got. I ain't never been I'm not

607
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 1: able to say something on my show like I'm saying

608
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 1: here like this is good. Okay, you know what I think.

609
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:13,919
Speaker 1: I think he knew that I ain't posed no threat

610
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,800
Speaker 1: met him on adition that it was cool. It was

611
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,879
Speaker 1: a no no, we understand. And that thing is very soft.

612
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:28,840
Speaker 1: Chris Brown or Usher Ussher only because Chris Brown is

613
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 1: talented as hell, but Usher, I grew up Usher. You

614
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, that's Ushers part of the

615
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 1: reason that Neo exists. I'm keep it all the shop

616
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: like that's Jackson five or new addition, damn uh, new addition,

617
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 1: new edition. Because my I was I was a fan

618
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 1: of the Jackson five, but I was more of a

619
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 1: fan of Mike than what Michael was doing as opposed

620
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 1: to the whole Jackson five situations. New addition. The first

621
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 1: first concert I even went to in life was a

622
00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,800
Speaker 1: new edition. It was a coming home concert. Well you

623
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 1: know everybody like BBD got a section, Bobby Brown got

624
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 1: a section, Rob Tredsman got a section, and they all

625
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 1: came back that they broke up. This is after they

626
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 1: broke up. Agamea first concert ever in life, and they

627
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 1: came out in these red suits with this embroidered tiger

628
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 1: on the joint and these these red baller caps. And

629
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,879
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, one day, one day, like if you saw,

630
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 1: if you saw me a lovers and friends, that whole

631
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 1: red ensemble that was inspired by the addition. H Jeremiah,

632
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 1: he got quiet because or trade songs on my bad

633
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 1: Jeremiah Trade songs, Uh, Jeremiah much love of trade song,

634
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 1: But jeremiahs is a Jeremiah is a is a. I

635
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 1: look at Jeremy Moore as a writer and a musician

636
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 1: than an artist, you know what I'm saying, Like like,

637
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 1: don't get me on his art His artistry is dope,

638
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: his songs is dope. But I have the respect for

639
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,800
Speaker 1: that man, for the way that he makes music and

640
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,320
Speaker 1: the music that he the music that he makes. Jeremah

641
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 1: Jeremiah the big up Jeremond. I don't think I forgot

642
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 1: forgot bro. He looked out for me when I needed

643
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 1: them when I'm very thankful for that. When when the

644
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 1: you love record. So I'm sending the studio with a man,

645
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,839
Speaker 1: rock star, and we're just having a random conversation about

646
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 1: people that I haven't worked withducing rock star, rock Star,

647
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 1: shout out the boy rock star. So we're just talking

648
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 1: about people that I've never worked with. To get my

649
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:26,359
Speaker 1: light mynd like that I would, but rock star sending

650
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 1: the studio, rock started talking about people ain't working with

651
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 1: yet Jeremie's name popped up. He was like, work, hold on, hey,

652
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,320
Speaker 1: pull up. Nick pulled up. He pulled up with with

653
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 1: the bag he had, putting me like seven records, seven

654
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 1: amazing records. I'm like, listen as my pride won't let

655
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 1: me pick more than one because because I'm looking, I'm

656
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,439
Speaker 1: listening to these records like, damn, why ain't thinking that? Damn?

657
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 1: I don't know how many of crazy that lyric it was.

658
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 1: It was one of those moments. So I picked the

659
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 1: one that I felt safe with and that was the

660
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,840
Speaker 1: Love Record And yeah, man, rest history. Shout out to

661
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: the boy Jereminda. She already got my shot ready, Yeah,

662
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 1: because I don't think I could choose in this one.

663
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 1: Jay z or Nas got my shot ready set up.

664
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:20,919
Speaker 1: Look at what solo? This is not cool. It's not cool.

665
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: Has anybody ever been carried out of this show? Afterwards?

666
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: Everyone survives afterwards? Is it's a little bit crazy afterwards.

667
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:35,879
Speaker 1: But okay, we've had some wild ones h that I mentioned.

668
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,320
Speaker 1: I'm not a shot taker that I mentioned that nobody is.

669
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 1: We're just here. We just he we all side. We

670
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 1: celebrated yo yo yo shuh The Dream or Ryan Leslie? Wow, Um,

671
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 1: all right. I've always felt like they never got the

672
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 1: flowers deserved, but I never got the recognition deserved. But

673
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,040
Speaker 1: I do it as a genius. Um. But from the

674
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 1: standpoint of you know who took it and did and

675
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 1: did what they were supposed to do with it for

676
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 1: whatever reason, I gotta give it to the day Dream.

677
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 1: Bryan Leslie is dope, dope as hell. We've act. We

678
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 1: actually got records together that the world has never heard.

679
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 1: But yeah, the Dream. Yeah, man, you know what, you

680
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,800
Speaker 1: know what's dope about the Dream? I okay, So I

681
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 1: personally don't like the songs where it'd be like one

682
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 1: word repeated over and over and over and over and

683
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 1: fucking over again. That's just annoyed at me. But the Dream,

684
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, when he do it, it don't annoy me.

685
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 1: Like when he doing that's I was like that, Yeah,

686
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: all right, that's seventeen times you say that one word.

687
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,839
Speaker 1: But the ship is dope though, like I like, yo,

688
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,479
Speaker 1: I have respect for that dude because like I've tried

689
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 1: that before, Like let me, let me see if I can. No,

690
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 1: I don't like this ship. I'm annoyed by myself. I

691
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 1: can't do it, but he should be working, So shout

692
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 1: out to the Dream. It was dope. Tory Lanes or

693
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 1: the Weekend, Uh, the weekend, the weekend Tory Lanes. I'm

694
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 1: gonna lie Tory Lanes. It's cool, little dude, talented, a

695
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 1: little dude, but the Weekend is a is a and

696
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:04,439
Speaker 1: that that thing is like an entity like I don't

697
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 1: even know. I don't even know where to how to

698
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 1: categorize him. He's something else. I agree with you everything

699
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 1: something else. These things about that a hunted house that

700
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 1: goddamn uh uh one of them damn amusement parks. What

701
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,879
Speaker 1: what R and B cat is doing that haunted house? Yeah,

702
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 1: his own haunted house. Like it's different, different dudes and

703
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 1: different dude Mario or Marian. Uh the set up question, No, No,

704
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 1: I can make a distinction here. I'm gonna Mario. So

705
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 1: I broke this down for somebody, uh during the BT

706
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 1: weekend because everyone because of course everybody's asking me about

707
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 1: the damn versus I don't. A performer, Mario will always

708
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 1: have issue against a singer Mario because a singer Mario

709
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 1: can get all everybody in the room with just his voice.

710
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,959
Speaker 1: He can literally stand in one spot and just sing

711
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 1: and get the whole room. Whereas the performer Marian, he

712
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 1: gott to do a double flipping land on his head

713
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 1: and then turn around and split and eat some watermelon.

714
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 1: That's There's so much that has to happen. Was a

715
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 1: little uncoming. It was a little uncoming. It was I

716
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 1: think I think that I think everyone It was a

717
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 1: little uncoming. But but yeah, so I'm always gonna go

718
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 1: away with a singer, you know, remind you I I

719
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,399
Speaker 1: dubbed myself a performer. I'm a performer that can sing,

720
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 1: but I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I wouldn't go up against

721
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 1: Mario in a battle, in a singing battle like nobody's

722
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 1: doing that was doing that, that's what that dude does. No,

723
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 1: that's not so shot. Marian and Mario, everybody, everybody knows

724
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 1: who want that thing? S soso double xl uh. You

725
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 1: know what? The source? The source? Because the source actually

726
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 1: put me on a cover at one time. Yeah me

727
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 1: and keeps your cold it's fire. Yeah, that was weird.

728
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get my shot ready for this next one.

729
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 1: Fifty cents or jeezy damn, just get my shot ready.

730
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 1: Get that pop got ready for both of them? I do,

731
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 1: and they are both friends. Solo, can't you slottle slot

732
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 1: good choice, get easier as you go. Yeah, it's getting

733
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: easier right now. It's not Jermaine depris on pop daddy.

734
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:54,399
Speaker 1: Damn uh that's a shot. Damn the fucking set up. Damn,

735
00:41:56,160 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 1: come on, come on, this is thank god. I ain't

736
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 1: had nothing to do today different so I'm going to

737
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 1: bed after Oh oh, just get the good one. This

738
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 1: is my favorite major or independent independent. Wow comes, I'm

739
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 1: not gonna you have debates over no. Speaking from personal experience,

740
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 1: major label is dope when it's done the right way.

741
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 1: But nowadays, how often is it done the right way? Right?

742
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? We we've got to a

743
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 1: point where where all you really use a major label

744
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 1: four is a bank. You know what I'm saying. It's

745
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 1: it's it's money that you don't gotta pull out your

746
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 1: own pocket. But as far as the legwork, as far

747
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 1: as you know, all of that, that's that's that has

748
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 1: to happen. Like castes that are doing it theirself, catch

749
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,319
Speaker 1: that are promoting themselves, cats is making records in their

750
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 1: bathroom on Monday and dropping them ships on Spotify Tuesday.

751
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:57,879
Speaker 1: You know, it's a real thing. It's it's happening there.

752
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:01,720
Speaker 1: And the more are the more these young artists realized

753
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 1: that the power is kind of in their own hands.

754
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 1: The less and less the less unless you feel like

755
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 1: you would need a major label. And mind you, I'm

756
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 1: talking about the major labels that don't the way they

757
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 1: said the EXXL had you on the cup and not

758
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 1: for that you sucked up me with you. I just

759
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 1: got to text, so you know, what I mean, we

760
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: just got the tex little gun, salut the clock, Let's go,

761
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 1: let's go Independence, shout of clock. But I'll tell you,

762
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you something I got spoiled after having

763
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 1: hit records, after having streaked records. When I first came

764
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 1: out was the warri Port we me and Capone, we

765
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 1: had records that was was considered hits. But just in

766
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 1: New York said that that streak records right the minute

767
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 1: I touched hit all fifty markets, the minute I hit

768
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 1: the number one. It was hard not to try to

769
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 1: not have that same feeling. So it's like it's like

770
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 1: if they say when when a person does drugs or

771
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 1: does crack, that that first hit is always the best,

772
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 1: So you always go out there and you're chasing that.

773
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 1: That's the same thing like when I was here when

774
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 1: I hit, When I hit a different it's a different

775
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 1: time period of social media that pre social media all that.

776
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 1: So I had to sell a million records. I had

777
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 1: to go to a million places, you know what I mean.

778
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 1: Like it wasn't as easy as what like I used

779
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 1: to be called on that Like I'm like people look

780
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 1: at me like I'm prehistoric, you know what, I'm saying,

781
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 1: I'm doing you I heard you know, people know what

782
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 1: the fact is, I came out of the nineties. So

783
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 1: people think that I'm prehistoric because they just think everybody

784
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 1: everything in the nineties is you know what I mean.

785
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 1: But I did get it. I did get used to

786
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 1: um that major label look and that you know, going

787
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 1: being able to go to every morning show throughout the

788
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:53,800
Speaker 1: whole country, being able to go and then when you

789
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 1: get the independent you don't get that same look. You

790
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, You have to you have to

791
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 1: work very, very harder to get the little results that

792
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 1: you actually get when you get them when you're work,

793
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:05,840
Speaker 1: when you're with a record label, they believe in you

794
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 1: and wants to actually do the work. That's that's all

795
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,839
Speaker 1: switch which should be to the combination of both being

796
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 1: independent to the point where the major is just your distribution.

797
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 1: It's the right deal for you, and then they take

798
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 1: you to the next level. That that's always all componis

799
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:21,879
Speaker 1: when we argue about that, that's all we we where

800
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: we see out of eyes. Stay independent, but get that

801
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 1: major labeled distribution. You know what I'm saying. So when

802
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 1: you because man, I ain't gonna lie it'd be hard

803
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 1: to go to go back to the non suitets. What's

804
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 1: the economy, loud, I don't want to stay there. I

805
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 1: can season, you don't have to. I've never been independent. Okay,

806
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 1: we're taking a shot for you're not going independent. Keep

807
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 1: that big check money man talking to check money. Let's go.

808
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm h Japanese Delion is fighting back. Yes, sir, yeah, yes,

809
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 1: stay stay stay Major, stay Major. No no, no, I'm so.

810
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 1: I've never been an independent artist, so I don't completely

811
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:22,240
Speaker 1: know the struggle of independent artists other than you basically

812
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 1: have to do everything yourself, right, I get, I understand

813
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 1: what that is. I get that, you know. Shout out

814
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 1: to my motown team. They do me absolutely, talking right

815
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 1: over there right spending their motown money, baby, definitely, But

816
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 1: start spending your own money. It's different. There are also

817
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: about give up ownership. Let's keep that in mind as well.

818
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 1: To be on the major label, you don't have to

819
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 1: go up. I don't mind. I don't mean. Well, you

820
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 1: know what, So I watched something the other day and

821
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 1: I think it was older. I'm not sure, but it

822
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 1: was it was the boy uh that made sense. It

823
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 1: made sense. He was like he was like he just

824
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:55,319
Speaker 1: wanted to buy his masters back. He wanted to get

825
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 1: his masters back, and and they was giving him a

826
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 1: hard time about getting the masters back. He said, what

827
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 1: are you gonna do with the master? Yeah, it's like

828
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:01,840
Speaker 1: what you're gonna do put the ships on your on

829
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 1: your dress, Like what you're gonna do with the ship?

830
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 1: If you don't know what to do? It it's worth

831
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 1: it's worthless, it's worth. So I get that. I get that.

832
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 1: I think the independent route just is attractive to me

833
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 1: because it's like your own agenda, you know what I'm saying.

834
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 1: They're definitely on a Record Labels agenda, you know, on

835
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 1: their timeline. You gotta do ship when when they need

836
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 1: you to do it, when they want you to do it.

837
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:25,799
Speaker 1: Whereas the independent you could just do your own thing.

838
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:27,880
Speaker 1: Like I would love to do a so on Monday

839
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 1: and drop the ship too, say, because I felt like it.

840
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 1: I would love to do that, Like that's that's that's

841
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 1: the kind of freedom. That that's the kind of freedom

842
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,919
Speaker 1: that I feel like, you work, you work this hard

843
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,240
Speaker 1: for this long to get to get that kind of freedom.

844
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:41,839
Speaker 1: It's like the same. Not all money is good money.

845
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 1: So you might make some less money as an independent,

846
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 1: but that freedom is just as less money as an

847
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 1: independent I mean say, if if that was the case,

848
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 1: that freedom might be just as valuable for someone made

849
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 1: a little bit more. Always is always the exception. Like

850
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 1: you're looking at the rocket Fellers where they own their masters.

851
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 1: You look at the master each to look at the

852
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,280
Speaker 1: you know, um, the cash money is always the exception

853
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 1: to that rule, you know what I mean with with

854
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:08,360
Speaker 1: people like that, like those, But I mean that's the

855
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:10,919
Speaker 1: they're there are definitely exceptions to the rule. They're they're

856
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 1: the rare occasions where the independent thing work, not only work,

857
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 1: but but flourish. Yeah, completely, I bet you. I bet

858
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 1: you little Wayne, I bet you, um Turk. All of

859
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:24,800
Speaker 1: them never felt like they was on an independent label

860
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 1: because they have those independent labels. Was sucking conglomerates be

861
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 1: then theirselves like it's the like independent because it's independently owned.

862
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 1: Like it's just y'all know I think y'all are y'all

863
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 1: are a major label? Okay, all right? A connoty pain?

864
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:49,760
Speaker 1: Why do you want to put all my friends against

865
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:54,400
Speaker 1: each other? That's the evil Dominican and the evil Columbia.

866
00:48:54,760 --> 00:49:03,359
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, uh, I'm man, let's do it. I'm

867
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 1: glad you're playing the game. He's playing the game. He

868
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 1: is playing the game. I love it. I love it.

869
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 1: Thank thank you, thank you. You be a little too

870
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 1: for Okay, you know a little so little okay, m

871
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:23,359
Speaker 1: M Quincy Jones or Stevie Wonder, this is you might

872
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 1: as well kept pouring out of here. This was a

873
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 1: great idea. We're right second, Quincy Jones or you said,

874
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 1: Quincy Jones, step Wonder okay, Uh Stevie Wonder. And I

875
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:46,800
Speaker 1: would say this because because he could see it on

876
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:51,240
Speaker 1: the low, Shock said he see him in the elevator.

877
00:49:51,320 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 1: He pressed the body because boys up to big walking. Well,

878
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 1: come on, I think you see y'all finger pop and

879
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:14,800
Speaker 1: ship for years. That's the one that I love you

880
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 1: to death. I ain't say that with me, no, God,

881
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 1: Stevie Wonder, because I learned. I learned how to sing

882
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:25,439
Speaker 1: listening to Stevie Wonder and Michael Jackson. I hate more voice,

883
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 1: so okay. So I come from uh musical family. Everybody

884
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 1: and my family do something. My sister came out the

885
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 1: wound just blowing right, so it's effortless for her. My

886
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 1: ship was not effortless. I had to had to like

887
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:41,799
Speaker 1: learn how to sing and drink tea and definitely drink.

888
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 1: But my mom used to listen to like, you know, temptations,

889
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 1: Oh Jay's teddy pentagrams, turn them off, big heavy voices,

890
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 1: and I ain't had that ship. And my mom was

891
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:55,439
Speaker 1: my hero. That was that was like, that was my person,

892
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:56,959
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I wanted to sound

893
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 1: like the ship that she liked to listen to, but

894
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:01,320
Speaker 1: I ain't sound like that. So she introduced me to

895
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson. She introduced me to Stephen want because it

896
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 1: was kind of a similar tone to what huh literally

897
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 1: not Michael Jackson, kids your coaches. All I met was

898
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 1: Kennyson growing up. I was mad jealous one second met

899
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:27,840
Speaker 1: Michael and one of the steve me one as a

900
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,400
Speaker 1: job I met as an adult. Wait, we could get

901
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 1: into that. Hold on, don't don't go too fast, you're

902
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 1: going too fat. Now we're going to beat That's the

903
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 1: first way we're gonna We're gonna straight to Michael and

904
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:42,279
Speaker 1: print stories if you have, we love them here. Yeah,

905
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:45,800
Speaker 1: when Patty the Bell print story was kind of crazy,

906
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 1: it was that was a good show speaking of that

907
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:53,919
Speaker 1: wall of Drilla. Never expected to see Patty the mail

908
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:58,280
Speaker 1: as she drank. We didn't expect everything that was amazing.

909
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 1: And she drank and she signed my guacam only company too.

910
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 1: Let's make some noise for me close up and I

911
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:09,360
Speaker 1: made it deal immediately, let's go back to you. You

912
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:12,800
Speaker 1: might distribution. I went mad, I went I went independent

913
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 1: this time. Okay, okay, off the water, throw off the wall. Because,

914
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 1: as I was just saying, I learned how to sing

915
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 1: listening to Mike and Steve. The first Michael Jackson music

916
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 1: that I ever heard was off the Wall. Kanye Wessel

917
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 1: for Rell fu fuck um fuck that blue Dotter is

918
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 1: looking at Emmett. I'm too nice. I mean, this is

919
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 1: this is, this game is made. I told you I

920
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,280
Speaker 1: don't take shots. I don't know. I don't have shot etiquette.

921
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm just say etiquette it because

922
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:11,840
Speaker 1: it's long long, we're not even have we all have

923
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:14,799
Speaker 1: way through? Were not with the show? Over the show? Yea, yeah,

924
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 1: we have way through. My answers is about changing on

925
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 1: this one. This one. It's gonna be ill all right,

926
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:29,800
Speaker 1: tank or keep sweat, uh, keep sweat. Gotta go with

927
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 1: the history go absolute o G radio or podcast that's

928
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 1: independent of major all over, and I can honestly say

929
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 1: that in the history of me, I've made my money

930
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 1: via radio. Then I have your podcast. We can respect that.

931
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 1: Respect that, you know, as soon as the podcast checks

932
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 1: are rolling in, Hey, yeah, no problem, no problem, we

933
00:53:57,239 --> 00:54:00,880
Speaker 1: respect that, all right, e F And you want to go, Okay,

934
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 1: I get it now. I didn't. I didn't get it before.

935
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 1: For Dora's or baseball hats, I didn't get it that first, sorry,

936
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 1: or because it sounds like a new clearly you live

937
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:26,239
Speaker 1: quality and else the number three topic wearing niggers in

938
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:30,360
Speaker 1: the world cats or had the shower back there? I do?

939
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 1: That was a lot. I know, k I'm saying something,

940
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 1: so all right, I feel like world world known people

941
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 1: know the for door like if you if you you

942
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:47,279
Speaker 1: think neo, you think for door world. However, they both

943
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:50,879
Speaker 1: embodied me like it's just it's just it's just who

944
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:55,320
Speaker 1: the hell I am for doors for do? Okay? I

945
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 1: love a baseball cat, but I feel like I look

946
00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 1: better at the door. I love that they a little

947
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:04,360
Speaker 1: emoji for the big but the cat, like you, like,

948
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 1: we wouldn't know what that Okay, Our Green or Curtis Mayfield, Damn,

949
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 1: let's go, come on, let's drink it. Yeah, I'm ahead. Uh,

950
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get mine ready at least I really don't

951
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:22,799
Speaker 1: want to take another shot. Fuck y'all. Damn damn. Yeah,

952
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 1: that's not a you can't do that. Yeah, you gotta

953
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:29,840
Speaker 1: show respect to the old JS. So I look serious.

954
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:38,359
Speaker 1: M hm awk our Green grets may that man find

955
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 1: christ def Jam. We've been talking about that, people telling

956
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 1: about the Grits Jef Jam my Motown. Who um, you

957
00:55:48,239 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 1: know what think's drinking that? I'm take a shot. I'm

958
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:07,400
Speaker 1: gonna advise, I'm gonna listen to your advisorysory committee, not

959
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 1: real ship because def Jam set it up in Motown,

960
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:12,920
Speaker 1: spiked at home. You know. So they both played very

961
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:18,920
Speaker 1: intricate injurgle role in my success. So I can't slot

962
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 1: to both pick up tons of two tons of tongs.

963
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 1: He's doing a great jobs, gonna get it ready and

964
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 1: the tinay Rick James and Bobby Brown Bobby Brown head

965
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 1: No I fock Rick James, Rick James. But as far

966
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:45,880
Speaker 1: as influenced me personally, Bobby Brown is my imagination. Did

967
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:49,719
Speaker 1: you hear that Bobby Brown frog um chicken with cocaine.

968
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 1: I did not hear that. However, I am not shocked

969
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 1: surprised by that at all, as they said he had

970
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:03,400
Speaker 1: so much cocaine one time that he got he bred chicken.

971
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:06,920
Speaker 1: He bred. I ain't gonna lie to that work. I

972
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:09,360
Speaker 1: don't know where. I ain't allow to you order me.

973
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 1: He wants to know how that part like, because that

974
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 1: was either some complete bullshit like it was going to

975
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 1: be the best chicken regards, this is the best you

976
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 1: taking by and that it's the best, yo, don't let you.

977
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 1: Who told us that Rick James their babysitter? Wow? Who

978
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 1: told that? Was it snow that Rick James? Was it? Conway?

979
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 1: It was snow that Rick James was just babysitter somebody kids?

980
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 1: By the way, that snow by the way, whoever that

981
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 1: was your parents is out of live. I'm saying he

982
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 1: talked about his mom. That's a strange I'm not I'm

983
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 1: a good babysittering. What are you doing as what are

984
00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 1: you doing as a parent to where it becomes a

985
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 1: good idea for Richard James to watch the I gotta

986
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 1: be there, I gotta Rick you mean slide you gotta

987
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 1: be there. What's happening? What does that Evan? It was

988
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 1: definitely picture what you got to go? Something was ship hey, listen,

989
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 1: ship hold little man, damn bottle every two hours. Okay,

990
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 1: Whitney Houston or Amy wine House. Whitney Houston Love Amy

991
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 1: wine House. But there will be no Amy wine House

992
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 1: where wit Houston, Adele or Mariah Maria Love be now Adele.

993
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 1: I got record with Mariah. She came to the studio

994
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 1: and didn't my record and drink and I ain't gonna lie.

995
00:58:57,160 --> 00:58:58,960
Speaker 1: I was so embarrassed when she came to the studio

996
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 1: because we didn't clean up. You know, I had like

997
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 1: a clubhouse studio. And then Marian carry walls to like,

998
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 1: what do you do? You do you take the garbage out?

999
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 1: Now like he's not so much like you just go

1000
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 1: with it, but but hold on. But I deflected, Neil.

1001
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 1: You know what I did. I said, you drinking wine?

1002
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:17,600
Speaker 1: She said yes, I yeah, and we went and then

1003
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 1: she had her eyes on the wine and not how

1004
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 1: filthy my studio was. Riots in the back of her head.

1005
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:26,880
Speaker 1: She was like, it's dirtiest hand, but let me just

1006
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 1: say good, let me just tell your something. So we

1007
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 1: had so so she was walking around and like I've

1008
00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:34,520
Speaker 1: never seen my my my niggas groupy out like this,

1009
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:37,640
Speaker 1: like my niggas was really following her up and down

1010
00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 1: the studios. So I said, I said, I said, I said,

1011
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 1: my Ryan, I said, you can't show stop following my rife.

1012
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 1: And then Mariant hits me to to the side. She said,

1013
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 1: they may never see me again. Just left them, just

1014
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 1: left them. And because I was taking the too far,

1015
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 1: because this is my guest, you know what I mean,

1016
00:59:56,480 --> 01:00:01,720
Speaker 1: I'm like this before cameras and U Instagram. But she said,

1017
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 1: she said, she leaned over so politely said no, they

1018
01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:08,160
Speaker 1: may never see me again. Let them you know. You

1019
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:10,480
Speaker 1: know what she meant was, I ain't never coming back.

1020
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:23,040
Speaker 1: I am coming back different. That's like a life that's

1021
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 1: a life accomplishment. Yes, yes, I got a record. I did.

1022
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 1: I did ship with Mariah. I did shout out the

1023
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:32,280
Speaker 1: big shout out the big life accomplished that that line

1024
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:37,440
Speaker 1: is all because everybody felt like, yeah, yeah, that's it.

1025
01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 1: That's it. Dicky Smalls or big punt Biggie Smalls, a

1026
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 1: big pun Biggie Smalls, all respect to Big Punk. But

1027
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 1: I was introduced a Biggie Smallest first, I fell in

1028
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:53,920
Speaker 1: love with Biggie word played first, big smalls good. It's

1029
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:56,680
Speaker 1: the last one, the last one the interview, but the

1030
01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:59,920
Speaker 1: last for quick Time and slide Everyone these is a

1031
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:03,200
Speaker 1: m a trick question. It really is a trick question.

1032
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:10,920
Speaker 1: Isn't what it kind of is? Loyalty or respect? Loyalty

1033
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 1: or respect? Can you be loyal to somebody that you

1034
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:22,080
Speaker 1: don't respect? Step? Not really right? If I don't. If

1035
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:23,760
Speaker 1: I don't respect you, why would I Why would I

1036
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:26,960
Speaker 1: waste my loyalty? Only final respect you? So it's a

1037
01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:32,880
Speaker 1: definitely loyalty. Let me respect respect, definitely respect. Okay, yeah,

1038
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:36,000
Speaker 1: god damn it. We survived quick time, you did it.

1039
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take a shot for surviving. I'm gonna take surviving. Yeah,

1040
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:46,760
Speaker 1: quick time yet. Okay, okay, And let me just tell

1041
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:49,840
Speaker 1: you something. We've been doing this for six years. There's

1042
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:54,920
Speaker 1: only two people who came here and changed cheers. You

1043
01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 1: just made a list. But who else you think is

1044
01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:00,960
Speaker 1: the other person came here and changed? Changed like I

1045
01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:06,440
Speaker 1: mean change clothes, like clothes changed. But actually actually I didn't.

1046
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:09,920
Speaker 1: I was going you had a whole plan was changed.

1047
01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:13,000
Speaker 1: You know what I'm about to drink and smoke and

1048
01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:15,960
Speaker 1: it's probably gonna be bad. I love rock. Let me right,

1049
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:19,000
Speaker 1: I'm with family and friends. Let the rock. Why I'm

1050
01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 1: good good? Who's the only I ain't got dressed up

1051
01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:23,880
Speaker 1: for you? Who's the other person that you think that

1052
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:31,440
Speaker 1: came here and came here and changed? Clowes did Patty

1053
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:40,920
Speaker 1: the change and love it. She she came ready to

1054
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:42,800
Speaker 1: rock hat out here and make a lot of people there.

1055
01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:45,440
Speaker 1: We picked up my boy, go go. We picked up

1056
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:47,520
Speaker 1: with the ghost. We had a red carpet for because

1057
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:50,080
Speaker 1: we don't even have to you know what I'm saying.

1058
01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 1: And yeah, but she she stayed ready. But she didn't

1059
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:56,320
Speaker 1: take my easies. He took my easy slippers because he

1060
01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:58,160
Speaker 1: wanted to go to the bathroom. Wanted to go to

1061
01:02:58,160 --> 01:02:59,920
Speaker 1: the bathroom, and I had my slippers right there, and

1062
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:01,960
Speaker 1: so I opened it up and she did it. And

1063
01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:05,160
Speaker 1: then when she when she didn't, she started she started dancing.

1064
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:08,200
Speaker 1: I said, holy movie, we want, we want. We got

1065
01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:12,160
Speaker 1: hanging about dancing. And soon as she put the easiest

1066
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:15,920
Speaker 1: off slippers off, I'm framing them right now, I'm framing them.

1067
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:17,720
Speaker 1: And so when you walk in my crib, you first

1068
01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:20,160
Speaker 1: walk in my crib. You're gonna see the yeasies that

1069
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:22,680
Speaker 1: Palliati about war because see the video footage of her

1070
01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:26,800
Speaker 1: wearing it, Because that implies you have a very large crib. No, no, no,

1071
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:29,600
Speaker 1: actually actually don't. Yeah, because actually next to that, I

1072
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:32,680
Speaker 1: got memorabil you just said doing the six years. But

1073
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:35,840
Speaker 1: actually I got Floyd may Whether his whole outfit that

1074
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:37,760
Speaker 1: he wore a drink chance is, I'm the biggest Floyd

1075
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:40,240
Speaker 1: Mayweather fan, So he sent me that. And then I

1076
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:44,080
Speaker 1: got um Lennox Lewis boxing gloves. I got a memorable bill.

1077
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:46,240
Speaker 1: You like a sting going on. You know what I'm saying,

1078
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:51,000
Speaker 1: If you know what, I'll take that. I'll take that. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1079
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:52,720
Speaker 1: I'll take that. I'm just saying that. Yeah, yeah, you'll

1080
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:55,760
Speaker 1: be up in there amongst the gad that's cool, and

1081
01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:57,560
Speaker 1: we're taking a shot for that. I think we shouldn't

1082
01:03:57,560 --> 01:04:01,440
Speaker 1: take a shot of that. Let take a shot for yourself.

1083
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:08,520
Speaker 1: Everyone shot yourself. I know, I knew I was coming

1084
01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:12,480
Speaker 1: to gym saying take a shot, take a shot with

1085
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:20,680
Speaker 1: you're heavy short, I'm drunk, God damn man. Oh I

1086
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:23,320
Speaker 1: stick got my drink on the side too. My spade.

1087
01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:31,440
Speaker 1: You sad she chose violence. Yes, listen, listen, listen. We

1088
01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:34,240
Speaker 1: used to have a Dominican guy named Mr Lee pouring drinks.

1089
01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:36,960
Speaker 1: Now we got a girl for you. You know what? Yes, yes, yes,

1090
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:39,400
Speaker 1: because it would have been weird if you're having a

1091
01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:46,880
Speaker 1: un all his love songs. You're saying strange dynamic. Yeah, Joe,

1092
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:49,200
Speaker 1: do you like being married? I like being married. I'm sorry,

1093
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:52,360
Speaker 1: you know I love being married. Yeah, I love streets

1094
01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:55,320
Speaker 1: is gross? Yeah, I'm sorry. It's it's true. It's true.

1095
01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:57,360
Speaker 1: It ain't it ain't it ain't ship. It ain't ship

1096
01:04:57,440 --> 01:04:59,040
Speaker 1: out there, but some ships you don't want. It's real,

1097
01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:02,200
Speaker 1: it's real. Like you see somebody do some whole ship.

1098
01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:05,480
Speaker 1: You'd be like, I'm going home pretty much, yo, real talk.

1099
01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:08,520
Speaker 1: I don't really, I ain't really ain't really outside like that,

1100
01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:12,600
Speaker 1: you know what. I gotta say that. I realized that.

1101
01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:14,240
Speaker 1: I'm sorry to cut you off. I know. That's the

1102
01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:20,680
Speaker 1: other day. My fun. My fun is being bored, like

1103
01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:22,840
Speaker 1: that's fun to me. But see, I ain't bory. It

1104
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:27,000
Speaker 1: may be boring to maybe, but I'm having a fucking ball.

1105
01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:30,720
Speaker 1: I'm at the crib. I'm killing the refrigerators right there.

1106
01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:33,760
Speaker 1: My bedroom is right there, my kids is here. I

1107
01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:37,080
Speaker 1: got my video game, nigger, I'm good a good video games.

1108
01:05:37,120 --> 01:05:41,160
Speaker 1: Oh damn yeah, I mean well, not all that Zelda

1109
01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:46,120
Speaker 1: I have, Legend of Zelda I have. I'm gonna play.

1110
01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:49,200
Speaker 1: I'm a PlayStation dude. Yeah yeah, I'm waiting on that

1111
01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:51,240
Speaker 1: Street Fight of six to come. Ain't got that Nintendo,

1112
01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:56,400
Speaker 1: I don't. That's all the games. This nigger got all

1113
01:05:56,480 --> 01:06:00,280
Speaker 1: the games I've not seen that he got. He got.

1114
01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:03,040
Speaker 1: That's in the Super Mario Brothers. He had Mike Tyson

1115
01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:05,439
Speaker 1: punch Out and Rob knew how to play that. Nick

1116
01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:08,280
Speaker 1: Ros is not his age Ross is alright, age bro,

1117
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:12,640
Speaker 1: this this young and you know to play Mike Typson,

1118
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:19,680
Speaker 1: come on home, Bro, even lying us Bro, Bro like

1119
01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:21,720
Speaker 1: and this is a crazy ship. This is a is

1120
01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:25,880
Speaker 1: a cheat colde and Mike Tyson. How the funk he

1121
01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:32,320
Speaker 1: knew that I said this? He yeah, yeah, yeah. I

1122
01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:33,880
Speaker 1: think it's be out your lying, bro, at least be

1123
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:37,560
Speaker 1: keeping it real. You forty two, yeah, I'm forty four. Goddamn,

1124
01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:42,480
Speaker 1: Holy moly, holy ship. Okay, we said, okay, stay down

1125
01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:46,160
Speaker 1: with featuring Young Blue or just just Blue. He took

1126
01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:48,840
Speaker 1: the young offer. He took the young He just Blue

1127
01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:52,040
Speaker 1: now okay, shout out to the boy Blue. Yeah, man,

1128
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:55,000
Speaker 1: so how did this happen? What was going on? Um?

1129
01:06:56,080 --> 01:06:57,840
Speaker 1: Stay down was one of my favorite actually one of

1130
01:06:57,920 --> 01:07:01,200
Speaker 1: my favorite joints on this album because uh so it's

1131
01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:02,880
Speaker 1: all right, so real ship. What happened is I wrote

1132
01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:06,120
Speaker 1: two songs about the same thing, right, and I didn't

1133
01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:07,960
Speaker 1: want to get rid of either song, so I just

1134
01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:10,680
Speaker 1: chopped the bitches in half and put them together. Um uh.

1135
01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:15,080
Speaker 1: The the addition of Blue, that was my nigga. Mr.

1136
01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:18,320
Speaker 1: Shout out to my man, Mr. Uh, that's that's my

1137
01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:20,640
Speaker 1: cat that just keep his ears to the street. Right.

1138
01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:22,880
Speaker 1: He introduced me to Blue, introduced me to blues music,

1139
01:07:23,200 --> 01:07:24,960
Speaker 1: and I was impressed by the young boy, you know,

1140
01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:27,920
Speaker 1: went over to his house, you know, to to kick

1141
01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:29,440
Speaker 1: it with him, to just kind of fill him out,

1142
01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:32,560
Speaker 1: and like, I feel like he's getting he's getting love

1143
01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:35,480
Speaker 1: right now. But just that's that's that's the that's the

1144
01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:38,400
Speaker 1: nigg to watch for real real because like what he's

1145
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:42,040
Speaker 1: giving y'all is good. But like I've heard some ship

1146
01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:44,920
Speaker 1: like like he come with some ship ship like for

1147
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:50,400
Speaker 1: shout out to the boy Blue. Has it been on

1148
01:07:50,600 --> 01:07:53,760
Speaker 1: another thing? How has it been filming the World of

1149
01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:57,280
Speaker 1: Dance Show. So The World of Dance Show unfortunately is

1150
01:07:57,360 --> 01:08:00,760
Speaker 1: not coming back now. They they did it, so I

1151
01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:03,080
Speaker 1: didn't realize that it was such an expensive show to shoot.

1152
01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:06,200
Speaker 1: It's a very very expensive show to shoot. I mean,

1153
01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:08,640
Speaker 1: I mean Jelos on the show. Of course, it's an

1154
01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:11,360
Speaker 1: expensive show to shoot. But I will say that the

1155
01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:14,040
Speaker 1: four years that we did that ship, it was amazing. Um.

1156
01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:16,680
Speaker 1: You know what it feel like when you come to

1157
01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:18,680
Speaker 1: work and everybody at work feel like they want to

1158
01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:20,920
Speaker 1: be there, and I'm talking about it is that. It

1159
01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:23,360
Speaker 1: was that thing like like this, the energy from the

1160
01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:26,160
Speaker 1: production people, to the dancers that's doing it, to to me,

1161
01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:29,120
Speaker 1: j Lo Derek, it was just it's just a great

1162
01:08:29,160 --> 01:08:31,479
Speaker 1: experience all the way across the board. Yeah, my girl

1163
01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:34,640
Speaker 1: forced me to watch it and I ended up liking it,

1164
01:08:34,720 --> 01:08:37,200
Speaker 1: like she's a jail fanatic. And then and then we've

1165
01:08:37,200 --> 01:08:39,799
Speaker 1: watched all the ladies. You know she's talking about sometimes

1166
01:08:40,320 --> 01:08:42,479
Speaker 1: now you know what you're talking about. So how was

1167
01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:45,679
Speaker 1: the Mass Singer? Yo? So I did the Mass Singer

1168
01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:48,040
Speaker 1: UK and I did that because I felt like if

1169
01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:49,720
Speaker 1: I did it here, I would have got caught easy.

1170
01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:51,840
Speaker 1: I feel like people have recognized my voice. But in

1171
01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:53,760
Speaker 1: the Massing of UK there was like, yo, if you

1172
01:08:53,800 --> 01:08:56,400
Speaker 1: can change your voice, change it, like whatever it is

1173
01:08:56,439 --> 01:08:58,120
Speaker 1: you gotta do to not get caught. Do that. And

1174
01:08:58,200 --> 01:09:01,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, ship, all right, we're cool. So that

1175
01:09:01,280 --> 01:09:05,040
Speaker 1: ship is beautiful and weird. It's fun. I can't breathe. No, no, no,

1176
01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:07,479
Speaker 1: I mean, aside from the fact that you can't breathe,

1177
01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:11,400
Speaker 1: don't you see units in those elaborate suits. No, little fans, Nah,

1178
01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:17,080
Speaker 1: come on, Disney characters, give that ship. I mean that's Disney. No.

1179
01:09:17,240 --> 01:09:23,120
Speaker 1: But the wow ship is that even backstage, nobody knows

1180
01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:25,439
Speaker 1: who anybody is. Like, okay, so it's it's it's like

1181
01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:27,400
Speaker 1: one cat that helps you, like you know, work through

1182
01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:29,800
Speaker 1: the music and then like a handler and that's the

1183
01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:33,080
Speaker 1: only people that see your actual face everywhere, like you

1184
01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:35,680
Speaker 1: walk them around backstage. They give you this, uh it's

1185
01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:38,200
Speaker 1: like a like a it's like a visor, like a

1186
01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:42,280
Speaker 1: mirror advisor over your face and it's COVID pretty much.

1187
01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:44,720
Speaker 1: And it's big black hoodie with the words don't talk

1188
01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:47,479
Speaker 1: to me right across the front of it. You. No

1189
01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:49,960
Speaker 1: one knows who anybody is even after the show, even

1190
01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:51,360
Speaker 1: after I got limited. I was like, all right, so

1191
01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:55,000
Speaker 1: real talk, Who's who's who's in the sausage suit. I

1192
01:09:55,040 --> 01:09:56,519
Speaker 1: can't tell you, gotta wait till the show comes out.

1193
01:09:56,560 --> 01:09:58,680
Speaker 1: Come on, man, I'm going home tomorrow. You can tell me.

1194
01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:01,840
Speaker 1: I can't at you. But yeah, it was. It was

1195
01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:05,080
Speaker 1: a dope experience. I loved it, especially because because they

1196
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:08,040
Speaker 1: allowed me to like try to change my voice, try

1197
01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:09,920
Speaker 1: to sing a different way to not get caught. And

1198
01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:12,599
Speaker 1: honestly I was. I was a little piste off because

1199
01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:14,360
Speaker 1: read the aora you know what you know read or

1200
01:10:15,320 --> 01:10:17,640
Speaker 1: I know read or read it or knows me. We

1201
01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:20,479
Speaker 1: worked together. I'm like, if anybody gonna catch me read

1202
01:10:20,479 --> 01:10:23,400
Speaker 1: it or read it or did not catch me. It

1203
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:25,600
Speaker 1: was some guest judge that came in on like the

1204
01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:27,680
Speaker 1: last two shows and finally tig out who the hella was.

1205
01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:31,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, readA real for real, that's what it is, Okay,

1206
01:10:31,479 --> 01:10:34,400
Speaker 1: I get She's like, no, no, they I knew who

1207
01:10:34,479 --> 01:10:37,240
Speaker 1: you were. The second shodow, I couldn't say anything bullshit,

1208
01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:39,640
Speaker 1: you didn't know what hell it was? But it was.

1209
01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:41,240
Speaker 1: It was all good though it was. It was. It

1210
01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:44,080
Speaker 1: was a great experience. I just feel like I really

1211
01:10:44,120 --> 01:10:48,639
Speaker 1: don't want to. I really don't want one. I'm about

1212
01:10:48,680 --> 01:10:50,880
Speaker 1: to hear me slurn over here. Come on, that's what

1213
01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:54,320
Speaker 1: you can skip one. You can skip one. We're gonna

1214
01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:56,880
Speaker 1: rocket y'all girl, mand I can't tell you what, but

1215
01:10:56,920 --> 01:10:59,920
Speaker 1: we're gonna take a shot for you. And you would

1216
01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:03,960
Speaker 1: read the order in the mask. No that she was fun.

1217
01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:10,160
Speaker 1: I didn't saying right, should not read the plan. Mhmm,

1218
01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:19,360
Speaker 1: you're good. You're good, Yo. Listen, listen Neal, I'm gonna

1219
01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:24,240
Speaker 1: be honest your whole lection out here. Bro. Appreciate that

1220
01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:27,760
Speaker 1: I got to see your career from the beginning, from

1221
01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:29,880
Speaker 1: when you first worked with Pete Crack. Yeah. Man, you

1222
01:11:29,960 --> 01:11:33,559
Speaker 1: never gave Peter Cracker record back though she asked one,

1223
01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:38,160
Speaker 1: he won the crack he asked one. He record. He

1224
01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:39,920
Speaker 1: didn't tell me you want to record. Shout out to

1225
01:11:39,960 --> 01:11:41,720
Speaker 1: Pete Crack. I was in Philly just recently, like a

1226
01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:46,479
Speaker 1: couple of days ago. Yo. So so I was there.

1227
01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:49,280
Speaker 1: We was at the Dall Center. It was ridiculous. We

1228
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:52,519
Speaker 1: pulled up and I'm like, oh wait, funk, we're in Philly. Yo.

1229
01:11:52,880 --> 01:11:55,800
Speaker 1: Can somebody get ahold of Petty Crack? Compete Crack come

1230
01:11:55,840 --> 01:11:59,000
Speaker 1: out on stay, Pete Crack pulled him. He was like, Bro,

1231
01:11:59,080 --> 01:12:00,439
Speaker 1: I was at a whole family the bart with you.

1232
01:12:00,479 --> 01:12:01,840
Speaker 1: I was on the grill, I was getting it in,

1233
01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:04,519
Speaker 1: but I paused that to come fork with you. And

1234
01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:08,519
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, yo when this nigga came out on stage,

1235
01:12:08,640 --> 01:12:11,880
Speaker 1: because mind you, it's Philly. You know, it's hot everywhere

1236
01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:14,200
Speaker 1: right now, but it's it's dumb hot. It's like nine

1237
01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:16,960
Speaker 1: degrees at night. It's nuts to the point where even

1238
01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:19,160
Speaker 1: the crowd is like, hey, n ship, you know what,

1239
01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:21,599
Speaker 1: I'm gonna rock with you sitting down near this hot

1240
01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:26,559
Speaker 1: out here. Right when this nigga came out on stage, Nick,

1241
01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:30,160
Speaker 1: the whole place went nuts. Shout out to the boy,

1242
01:12:30,200 --> 01:12:31,880
Speaker 1: Petty Crack, because he literally pulled up on me in

1243
01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:33,080
Speaker 1: the last I called it. I called him in the

1244
01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:35,320
Speaker 1: last minute. I called him in the night in the

1245
01:12:35,439 --> 01:12:37,719
Speaker 1: ninth and he pulled up on me and he rocked

1246
01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:40,000
Speaker 1: out and it was beautiful. Let me look at you

1247
01:12:40,479 --> 01:12:43,160
Speaker 1: face to face, man, and man, you gotta get Pete

1248
01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:46,720
Speaker 1: Crack ahead. Petty, how let you pet you have my

1249
01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:52,080
Speaker 1: personal phone. Numb nigga could call me bro. That's literally

1250
01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:54,439
Speaker 1: from the beginning, and that was my first single as

1251
01:12:54,479 --> 01:12:57,479
Speaker 1: an artist on that gym why I Got You, Brother,

1252
01:12:57,600 --> 01:13:02,439
Speaker 1: and they did. They asked you to Crack brought that

1253
01:13:02,840 --> 01:13:08,120
Speaker 1: so they wanted So they knew that they wanted to

1254
01:13:08,200 --> 01:13:09,920
Speaker 1: go with Stay as the first record, and mind you,

1255
01:13:10,120 --> 01:13:13,240
Speaker 1: l A had like like a whole game plan and

1256
01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:14,760
Speaker 1: he was like, right, so we're gonna put this out first.

1257
01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:17,360
Speaker 1: This record is not gonna go to number one, but

1258
01:13:17,439 --> 01:13:19,360
Speaker 1: it's gonna do just well enough to get attention, to

1259
01:13:19,400 --> 01:13:22,680
Speaker 1: get people, and then we gonna hear him was so

1260
01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:25,519
Speaker 1: sick and we and we off. J. L A re

1261
01:13:25,640 --> 01:13:28,000
Speaker 1: told me this like months before it happened. I'm like,

1262
01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:30,800
Speaker 1: this is a psychic But anyway, so they knew they

1263
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:32,200
Speaker 1: wanted to go with Stay, but they felt like it

1264
01:13:32,280 --> 01:13:35,080
Speaker 1: needed something. So that's when Jay was like, we gotta

1265
01:13:35,080 --> 01:13:36,680
Speaker 1: get a hip hop feature on there. And I was like,

1266
01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:39,200
Speaker 1: all right, well, I'm it's jay Z soly listen whoever

1267
01:13:39,240 --> 01:13:41,920
Speaker 1: you decide, I'm rocking whatever. So he came with Pete.

1268
01:13:42,200 --> 01:13:45,360
Speaker 1: I wasn't familiar with who Pete Crack was when he

1269
01:13:45,439 --> 01:13:48,080
Speaker 1: put him on the record, but I loved what he

1270
01:13:48,160 --> 01:13:51,840
Speaker 1: did to it. He killed it. Dully Kelly, Damn Kelly.

1271
01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:54,519
Speaker 1: I'm like I don't know who you are, but I

1272
01:13:54,720 --> 01:13:59,240
Speaker 1: don't even know what right, So so yeah, so Jay

1273
01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:01,679
Speaker 1: brought him around and and it was it was love.

1274
01:14:01,800 --> 01:14:04,000
Speaker 1: It was all up. He'd been a real nick for

1275
01:14:04,040 --> 01:14:07,559
Speaker 1: a long long time. Is my brother? We both Nicko Rican,

1276
01:14:08,520 --> 01:14:11,719
Speaker 1: We're both black and Puerto Rican. Yeah, yeah, I love Beattie.

1277
01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:14,960
Speaker 1: We haven't spoken a long time, but shas beatty crack.

1278
01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:18,280
Speaker 1: I love. He's a Drink Chance of alumni, straight up

1279
01:14:22,560 --> 01:14:25,479
Speaker 1: and working and working with Pitt. Yeah, that's the next picture.

1280
01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:30,479
Speaker 1: That's another dude. That's another drink Chance and family. Listen,

1281
01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:32,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep a funk with ya because I'm drunk.

1282
01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:34,519
Speaker 1: I don't have a lot of industry friends because I

1283
01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:36,800
Speaker 1: don't do funny. Well, Like, if I don't funk with you,

1284
01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:38,880
Speaker 1: you're gonna you're gonna know, like right away, you know

1285
01:14:38,920 --> 01:14:41,880
Speaker 1: what I mean. And the whole concept of hanging out

1286
01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:44,800
Speaker 1: with somebody, taking pictures with somebody because it's it's it's

1287
01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:47,760
Speaker 1: good for your image. Like if y'all take a picture together,

1288
01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:48,720
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? He likes that. To guy,

1289
01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:50,680
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't give a damn. I don't rock

1290
01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:53,760
Speaker 1: like that. If I don't, I don't sunk with a

1291
01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:57,840
Speaker 1: lot of people funk with pit Bull because he's because

1292
01:14:57,960 --> 01:14:59,920
Speaker 1: aside from this music ship, aside from all of that,

1293
01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:02,560
Speaker 1: he's like a straight up, like just real you know.

1294
01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:05,240
Speaker 1: He's a genuine cat, you know, and he's always been

1295
01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:08,000
Speaker 1: at from from before the success, from before the success.

1296
01:15:08,040 --> 01:15:11,040
Speaker 1: He's always been just a genuine dude. And uh yeah, man,

1297
01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:14,679
Speaker 1: that's that's that's one of my real friends, not industry friends.

1298
01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:16,920
Speaker 1: Not we see each other and we say what's up,

1299
01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:18,479
Speaker 1: because that's what you're supposed to do in the industry. Like,

1300
01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:20,679
Speaker 1: that's one of my real friends. Like if the ship

1301
01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:22,840
Speaker 1: hit the fan, I would call people and he would

1302
01:15:22,840 --> 01:15:24,320
Speaker 1: pick the phone up for me, you know what I mean,

1303
01:15:24,400 --> 01:15:28,360
Speaker 1: Like real friendship. Did you get to watch his drink Champs?

1304
01:15:28,439 --> 01:15:33,960
Speaker 1: It was class try to get because he's friend. He

1305
01:15:34,040 --> 01:15:37,439
Speaker 1: brought they brought the vodka through. Yeah, he brought. He

1306
01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:39,400
Speaker 1: brought the first Mama Wanna that I started drinking and

1307
01:15:39,479 --> 01:15:42,280
Speaker 1: it was crazy. Is he came by himself, by himself

1308
01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:46,600
Speaker 1: because he literally that that speaks to the kind of

1309
01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:49,000
Speaker 1: cat is like you know what, I'm at home. I'm

1310
01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:50,479
Speaker 1: at home and pull up on my home boys. We're

1311
01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:52,400
Speaker 1: gonna do this it's gonna be fun like the career

1312
01:15:52,400 --> 01:15:54,759
Speaker 1: of only nobody with me. That's that's that's that speaks

1313
01:15:54,760 --> 01:15:56,280
Speaker 1: to the kind of cat that people shout out to

1314
01:15:56,280 --> 01:15:58,640
Speaker 1: the boy shout out to Mr. Worldwide. The time of

1315
01:15:58,720 --> 01:16:01,760
Speaker 1: my life, It's time of our lives. That's the It

1316
01:16:01,840 --> 01:16:04,280
Speaker 1: was the second one we did, the second one, we did?

1317
01:16:04,960 --> 01:16:07,280
Speaker 1: Uh when we did the first one? This is the

1318
01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:11,120
Speaker 1: super Yeah. Well, I mean, I mean give me. Everything

1319
01:16:11,960 --> 01:16:16,719
Speaker 1: was was massive. Like I've performed at Womley Stadium before,

1320
01:16:17,320 --> 01:16:19,960
Speaker 1: but when I performed at Womeny Stadium with this cat,

1321
01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:23,040
Speaker 1: It's eighty people jumping up and down at the same time.

1322
01:16:23,080 --> 01:16:27,360
Speaker 1: Grab somebody sexy, tell him electric, nigga, it was. It

1323
01:16:27,439 --> 01:16:32,880
Speaker 1: was electric. You have no idea. So it was different.

1324
01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:35,040
Speaker 1: It's different with that dude. So so he hit me

1325
01:16:35,080 --> 01:16:36,720
Speaker 1: with the second When he sent me the track, he

1326
01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:38,000
Speaker 1: was like, we gotta we gotta hit him again. We

1327
01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:42,200
Speaker 1: gotta do something. And mind you the concept of because

1328
01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:44,479
Speaker 1: at this point, I'm rich, I'm not paying rent, I'm

1329
01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:48,680
Speaker 1: I'm ownership at this point. But you know, I got

1330
01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:51,280
Speaker 1: casts around me. That's that's you know, up and coming

1331
01:16:51,320 --> 01:16:52,760
Speaker 1: and you know, trying to make it happy and I'm

1332
01:16:52,760 --> 01:16:54,519
Speaker 1: working with young writers and trying to get them right.

1333
01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:58,120
Speaker 1: And I'm listening to I'm listening to somebody tell their story,

1334
01:16:58,680 --> 01:17:00,960
Speaker 1: you know, about the whole. I knew my real was

1335
01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:05,840
Speaker 1: gonna be later by the week ago. I knew I

1336
01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:08,200
Speaker 1: worked my ass off, but I still can't pay it though.

1337
01:17:08,479 --> 01:17:10,920
Speaker 1: I'm sitting listening to this cat tell the story to

1338
01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:13,559
Speaker 1: his home. But like yo, I knew I wasn't gonna

1339
01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:15,519
Speaker 1: be able to pay the rent, but it only costs

1340
01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:17,840
Speaker 1: twenty bucks again the club. So I went to the

1341
01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:23,080
Speaker 1: mother club and I'm like, yea, that is the realist ship. Ever,

1342
01:17:23,240 --> 01:17:25,439
Speaker 1: it's like I can't pay it today, I ain't gonna

1343
01:17:25,439 --> 01:17:28,320
Speaker 1: be able to pay it tomorrow. But tonight I can

1344
01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:30,320
Speaker 1: get this guy damn club. I can get in there

1345
01:17:30,320 --> 01:17:32,280
Speaker 1: to have a good time. And I'm like, that's that's it,

1346
01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:34,479
Speaker 1: that's it. I knew my real was gonna be later.

1347
01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:36,240
Speaker 1: By the week ago. I worked my ass off. I

1348
01:17:36,280 --> 01:17:38,679
Speaker 1: still can't pay it, though, but I got just enough

1349
01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:41,160
Speaker 1: to get off in this club, had me a good

1350
01:17:41,240 --> 01:17:45,160
Speaker 1: time before my time is up. N you just wrote

1351
01:17:45,200 --> 01:17:49,560
Speaker 1: the hook come in hugs love yeah, and sent that

1352
01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:53,160
Speaker 1: to bit and the rest is history. The rest is history. Yeah, man. Yeah,

1353
01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:57,280
Speaker 1: I write from personal experience. I write from the experience

1354
01:17:57,320 --> 01:17:59,519
Speaker 1: of the people around me that's willing to tell me

1355
01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:01,599
Speaker 1: the story. You know what I'm saying. I always try

1356
01:18:01,640 --> 01:18:04,559
Speaker 1: to make it relatable. You know, everybody knows I ain't

1357
01:18:04,560 --> 01:18:07,240
Speaker 1: paying rent right now. I mean, at least if you're smart,

1358
01:18:07,240 --> 01:18:08,960
Speaker 1: you know I ain't paying on that rent. So you

1359
01:18:09,080 --> 01:18:12,479
Speaker 1: know I wasn't talking about myself. Same way, same way.

1360
01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:15,320
Speaker 1: It's like, I'm a married man, but I cannot write

1361
01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:18,080
Speaker 1: every song from the aspect of a married man. Ain't married.

1362
01:18:18,160 --> 01:18:20,519
Speaker 1: I heard you said, because everybody ain't married, I don't

1363
01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:24,639
Speaker 1: write sauce like when you was depressed. You don't even

1364
01:18:24,720 --> 01:18:29,000
Speaker 1: right it for fully, for all depressed people, because everybody's

1365
01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:31,599
Speaker 1: not depressed, because everybody ain't depressed. I try. I try

1366
01:18:31,640 --> 01:18:35,120
Speaker 1: to tap into the different aspects of what the human

1367
01:18:35,160 --> 01:18:37,679
Speaker 1: beings is going through. That's just what I'm going Also

1368
01:18:37,760 --> 01:18:41,000
Speaker 1: heard you say that hurt music like when when you

1369
01:18:41,080 --> 01:18:43,519
Speaker 1: go through a hurt situation, it makes for better music. Yo.

1370
01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:47,880
Speaker 1: I've never been able to completely understand it, but I

1371
01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:51,880
Speaker 1: have I have an understanding of it. It's like, okay,

1372
01:18:51,960 --> 01:18:55,000
Speaker 1: so everybody on the face of the planet knows what

1373
01:18:55,280 --> 01:18:58,479
Speaker 1: love is to us to a degree, even if you've

1374
01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:00,720
Speaker 1: never felt it, you know that it exists. You know

1375
01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:02,599
Speaker 1: that it's a force that exists, and it's and it's

1376
01:19:02,960 --> 01:19:04,560
Speaker 1: it's hard to put a finger on, but but you

1377
01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:07,679
Speaker 1: know that it's there. So if you take the number

1378
01:19:07,720 --> 01:19:10,719
Speaker 1: of people that are in love or experiencing love versus

1379
01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:13,479
Speaker 1: the people that are not, versus the people that are

1380
01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:15,800
Speaker 1: searching for it, versus the people that are that are

1381
01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:20,040
Speaker 1: in in in the darker elements of love, I promise

1382
01:19:20,080 --> 01:19:22,120
Speaker 1: you was more people over here than it is over here.

1383
01:19:22,680 --> 01:19:25,880
Speaker 1: So for whatever, so so them them, them funked up

1384
01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:29,720
Speaker 1: situations just make four amazing song lyrics. Because it's like,

1385
01:19:29,720 --> 01:19:31,920
Speaker 1: all right, if I need to cry, I need something

1386
01:19:31,960 --> 01:19:33,680
Speaker 1: to cry too. I need I need a song, I

1387
01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:36,360
Speaker 1: need some If I can't find a person that can

1388
01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:38,760
Speaker 1: relate to what I'm going through, I'm gonna put this

1389
01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:41,160
Speaker 1: song on because I know that whoever wrote this song

1390
01:19:41,280 --> 01:19:45,160
Speaker 1: knows exactly what I'm feeling. With Pinky Ring, Pinky Ring,

1391
01:19:45,280 --> 01:19:47,560
Speaker 1: you made pinky ring. That was different. That was that

1392
01:19:47,680 --> 01:19:51,240
Speaker 1: was anger, That wasn't that was I was. I was

1393
01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:54,920
Speaker 1: upset and no, no, no, no, it wasn't a disrecord.

1394
01:19:55,240 --> 01:19:59,120
Speaker 1: I didn't say anything about her, so to speak. I

1395
01:19:59,160 --> 01:20:01,679
Speaker 1: didn't say anything all about her. I was just speaking

1396
01:20:01,720 --> 01:20:05,640
Speaker 1: on the way that I was handling this situation. Straight up,

1397
01:20:06,200 --> 01:20:11,599
Speaker 1: shut up. We forgive you, thank you, and she gave

1398
01:20:11,680 --> 01:20:16,600
Speaker 1: me some good. That was when I seed you at Shoolls.

1399
01:20:16,640 --> 01:20:19,599
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie because I met you very early

1400
01:20:19,680 --> 01:20:23,600
Speaker 1: on with Tina Davis, and I seed you very very successful.

1401
01:20:24,160 --> 01:20:28,439
Speaker 1: And when I knew that, I knew. I knew he

1402
01:20:28,600 --> 01:20:30,639
Speaker 1: was going to work it out for some reason, because

1403
01:20:30,760 --> 01:20:32,840
Speaker 1: because I believe in love. I'm sorry, I know I

1404
01:20:33,280 --> 01:20:37,120
Speaker 1: made all these gangster records mean stuffing. You're passion the nigger.

1405
01:20:37,120 --> 01:20:39,719
Speaker 1: I get it, I get it. But but I knew

1406
01:20:40,640 --> 01:20:42,920
Speaker 1: even because at that time, I can tell you what hurt,

1407
01:20:43,280 --> 01:20:46,439
Speaker 1: I don't know what we were going through. Bro. So okay,

1408
01:20:46,640 --> 01:20:51,160
Speaker 1: So the peaky ring record, right, she came back, the

1409
01:20:51,240 --> 01:20:54,200
Speaker 1: wedding ring, I turned into a pinky ring that was

1410
01:20:55,080 --> 01:20:59,559
Speaker 1: completing other cap that was me moving around hurt as hell,

1411
01:21:00,040 --> 01:21:03,559
Speaker 1: trying to not look hurt like I'm out with my niggas.

1412
01:21:03,560 --> 01:21:06,120
Speaker 1: We had strip clubs like and I get back to

1413
01:21:06,200 --> 01:21:07,680
Speaker 1: the room at the end of the night and just

1414
01:21:07,840 --> 01:21:10,200
Speaker 1: cry myself to sleep. I was fucked up. I was

1415
01:21:10,320 --> 01:21:12,400
Speaker 1: fucked up for real, for real, and I couldn't. I

1416
01:21:12,439 --> 01:21:14,519
Speaker 1: couldn't show people that, you know what I'm saying that

1417
01:21:14,720 --> 01:21:16,519
Speaker 1: the pride of me was like, no, I'm good. Yeah,

1418
01:21:16,640 --> 01:21:18,040
Speaker 1: she didn't want to be you know what, I'm straight,

1419
01:21:18,400 --> 01:21:19,840
Speaker 1: and in the back of my head, I wanted to

1420
01:21:19,880 --> 01:21:23,200
Speaker 1: go home, nigger. I was hurt, hurt like it was bad.

1421
01:21:23,280 --> 01:21:25,360
Speaker 1: It was bad. So so the fact that you could

1422
01:21:25,360 --> 01:21:28,200
Speaker 1: see that means that I wasn't hiding that ship as

1423
01:21:28,240 --> 01:21:30,720
Speaker 1: well as I thought. No, No, I saw this and

1424
01:21:30,800 --> 01:21:32,640
Speaker 1: we had so hard. So we just me and you,

1425
01:21:32,720 --> 01:21:36,360
Speaker 1: a bunch of white people. And I looked at it

1426
01:21:36,439 --> 01:21:40,160
Speaker 1: and I said, no, that didn't need He's not gonna

1427
01:21:40,200 --> 01:21:44,560
Speaker 1: say you know what. And by the way, this is

1428
01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:47,680
Speaker 1: the time when we really first started drink champs. But

1429
01:21:47,800 --> 01:21:50,080
Speaker 1: I didn't want to pause. I didn't want to take

1430
01:21:50,080 --> 01:21:52,320
Speaker 1: advantage of you. I didn't want to. I was just like,

1431
01:21:52,479 --> 01:21:56,000
Speaker 1: you know what, nigga, that drink chaps. Yeah, that would

1432
01:21:56,000 --> 01:22:02,720
Speaker 1: have been hard, that ship would have been because Beau,

1433
01:22:02,920 --> 01:22:07,040
Speaker 1: you know what, the crazy you've ever been a guy

1434
01:22:07,160 --> 01:22:10,200
Speaker 1: that told the dude you'll leave that bitch and did

1435
01:22:10,240 --> 01:22:14,960
Speaker 1: he get back? That don't have a good seat. Now

1436
01:22:19,560 --> 01:22:21,640
Speaker 1: you know the children that you don't never want to

1437
01:22:21,680 --> 01:22:24,519
Speaker 1: be that dude to be like yo man yo, and

1438
01:22:24,640 --> 01:22:26,560
Speaker 1: then you get back when you get back with a

1439
01:22:26,720 --> 01:22:33,280
Speaker 1: whole that's that's real. That's real now. I uh, I

1440
01:22:33,400 --> 01:22:35,519
Speaker 1: knew that I didn't want to get to get a divorce.

1441
01:22:35,560 --> 01:22:37,800
Speaker 1: I mean coming, you know, you know what it is

1442
01:22:37,920 --> 01:22:41,920
Speaker 1: for negative even decide to get married, like especially like,

1443
01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:45,800
Speaker 1: let's keeping a nig in my position to be like

1444
01:22:45,920 --> 01:22:49,240
Speaker 1: you know what, cool on all, y'all, this one is

1445
01:22:49,479 --> 01:22:52,920
Speaker 1: just this one right, like that ship ain't like that's heavy.

1446
01:22:53,120 --> 01:22:56,320
Speaker 1: That's heavy. So if I go there, if I go

1447
01:22:56,479 --> 01:22:58,880
Speaker 1: to that extreme like I wanted to be just you,

1448
01:22:59,520 --> 01:23:02,280
Speaker 1: I ain't trying to get divorced. That's an all moment, y'all.

1449
01:23:03,240 --> 01:23:14,400
Speaker 1: To three, that's a woman's Yeah, that's a shot moment. Yeah,

1450
01:23:15,800 --> 01:23:18,960
Speaker 1: that's also a shot clock time. We can do it

1451
01:23:19,040 --> 01:23:22,519
Speaker 1: because we're taking a shot for your wife, kid, say no,

1452
01:23:22,800 --> 01:23:26,560
Speaker 1: it's also a for my wife's also a let's go

1453
01:23:28,240 --> 01:23:31,640
Speaker 1: and for y'alla for year, Yeah you go too far.

1454
01:23:32,640 --> 01:23:36,200
Speaker 1: This is for y'all. Kindling y'all, and you believe in it.

1455
01:23:36,360 --> 01:23:40,200
Speaker 1: Love because I love love and I love love. Let's

1456
01:23:40,200 --> 01:23:46,439
Speaker 1: get it in and I also love love thanks Mr Lee.

1457
01:23:47,000 --> 01:23:50,600
Speaker 1: I've been together. I've been together. I've been together with

1458
01:23:50,680 --> 01:23:53,599
Speaker 1: my wife fifteen years. We've been married ten. I've been

1459
01:23:53,640 --> 01:23:57,519
Speaker 1: married six, we've been together eight. God damnit make some

1460
01:23:57,640 --> 01:24:01,680
Speaker 1: noise for that. I how did you count wrong? How

1461
01:24:01,720 --> 01:24:04,799
Speaker 1: did you count that wrong? Taking a lot of shots?

1462
01:24:05,640 --> 01:24:09,880
Speaker 1: I didn't want he was married for no I I

1463
01:24:09,960 --> 01:24:12,400
Speaker 1: was telling him how long I was married. He shared

1464
01:24:12,439 --> 01:24:15,400
Speaker 1: his information with me. Because you're not married, right, technically

1465
01:24:16,760 --> 01:24:19,280
Speaker 1: you better relax. I mean, I'm pretty pretty much married, man,

1466
01:24:19,320 --> 01:24:21,320
Speaker 1: So what are you gonna do it? Hey? Man? Relaxed?

1467
01:24:24,120 --> 01:24:28,519
Speaker 1: You want to get and then you want to tell

1468
01:24:28,560 --> 01:24:34,360
Speaker 1: me to relax. Come straight up, don't do that. We

1469
01:24:35,040 --> 01:24:37,439
Speaker 1: we lived together, we're married as far as i'm that's

1470
01:24:37,439 --> 01:24:46,040
Speaker 1: that's Latino marriage. You don't like you, but let me

1471
01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:50,720
Speaker 1: ask you. You got to work with Beyonce and wed. Yes,

1472
01:24:51,200 --> 01:24:53,920
Speaker 1: let's let's let's talk about that. Man. So in which

1473
01:24:53,960 --> 01:24:55,680
Speaker 1: one you want to talk about first? But your we one?

1474
01:24:56,360 --> 01:25:02,639
Speaker 1: So pick the wrong one? We got drinks ship. I'm

1475
01:25:02,680 --> 01:25:06,439
Speaker 1: being carried out. Um No. So when I first met Rihanna,

1476
01:25:06,520 --> 01:25:10,880
Speaker 1: she was a brother was not I was perform broy

1477
01:25:11,600 --> 01:25:13,479
Speaker 1: she was young, young. She was like this might have

1478
01:25:13,560 --> 01:25:16,080
Speaker 1: been sixteen and seventeen somewhere there when first when I

1479
01:25:16,200 --> 01:25:19,880
Speaker 1: first first met her death Jamp had Tianna Taylor too.

1480
01:25:19,920 --> 01:25:25,120
Speaker 1: It was it was Rihanna, Tianna just got uh black Butterfly.

1481
01:25:28,040 --> 01:25:33,479
Speaker 1: Oh damn you? Hey, hey, Spike Tea, what's pop? Listen?

1482
01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:39,639
Speaker 1: We drunk? That was all of Yes, Uh, I don't

1483
01:25:39,640 --> 01:25:42,040
Speaker 1: want to what I meant sa Marie Rihanna and and

1484
01:25:42,280 --> 01:25:48,800
Speaker 1: uh black Butterfly? That yeah, uh still Yeah. When I

1485
01:25:48,840 --> 01:25:51,400
Speaker 1: first met Rihanna, she was very much still. She was

1486
01:25:51,439 --> 01:25:54,280
Speaker 1: a kid, you know. Always we started working together, you know,

1487
01:25:54,439 --> 01:25:56,360
Speaker 1: japol me and studio what you know, I'm writing with

1488
01:25:56,520 --> 01:25:58,160
Speaker 1: or whatever the case may be. I'm sorry, man, you

1489
01:25:58,240 --> 01:26:00,160
Speaker 1: can't just be saying it. That's so nonchally to my

1490
01:26:00,360 --> 01:26:03,760
Speaker 1: jay Z. Yes, I'm sorry. Jay Z put me in

1491
01:26:03,800 --> 01:26:05,840
Speaker 1: the studio with Rihanna very very young, which she was

1492
01:26:05,960 --> 01:26:09,000
Speaker 1: very very young, and you know, we're writing and I'm

1493
01:26:09,040 --> 01:26:11,680
Speaker 1: taking the Jimmy jam Terry Lewis approach like I'm just

1494
01:26:11,720 --> 01:26:15,040
Speaker 1: sitting having conversations about what's going on with her so

1495
01:26:15,200 --> 01:26:17,000
Speaker 1: that I can then turn around right the record. Right.

1496
01:26:17,720 --> 01:26:21,400
Speaker 1: So the odds ship is that as Rihanna is growing

1497
01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:26,040
Speaker 1: up and becoming the sex symbol that Rihanna is and

1498
01:26:26,240 --> 01:26:29,479
Speaker 1: all of my nigga's run. He's like, yo, yo, you

1499
01:26:29,560 --> 01:26:33,639
Speaker 1: saw Rihanna in them shorts. And I'm like, because it's

1500
01:26:33,680 --> 01:26:36,760
Speaker 1: like baby sisters, you know, my little sister. I'm like

1501
01:26:37,360 --> 01:26:40,120
Speaker 1: the DJ record out, yet this is not this is

1502
01:26:40,200 --> 01:26:45,240
Speaker 1: this is after the DJ Okay cool out and us

1503
01:26:45,280 --> 01:26:47,479
Speaker 1: have seen her and the niggas is on it, and

1504
01:26:47,880 --> 01:26:51,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like, I'm I'm pretty to these conversations,

1505
01:26:51,720 --> 01:26:55,080
Speaker 1: but I can't engage. It's like, yeah, yo, nigga Rihanna.

1506
01:26:55,200 --> 01:26:59,880
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, trying to down can't. Yeah, I can't engage

1507
01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:02,760
Speaker 1: these conversations because she's weird because like we've had like

1508
01:27:02,960 --> 01:27:07,160
Speaker 1: in depth conversations about real ship, like this is literally

1509
01:27:08,439 --> 01:27:10,400
Speaker 1: yeah yeah at this point, you know what, because I'm

1510
01:27:10,439 --> 01:27:13,200
Speaker 1: trying to write records for so we're talking about everything.

1511
01:27:13,240 --> 01:27:16,120
Speaker 1: We're talking about dudes, We're talking about all of that ship, right,

1512
01:27:17,439 --> 01:27:21,040
Speaker 1: And it's just weird because it's like as she gets older, act,

1513
01:27:21,240 --> 01:27:23,840
Speaker 1: you know, act, she's growing into a young woman. It's

1514
01:27:23,920 --> 01:27:27,439
Speaker 1: like every nig around me is like yo, Rihanna, and

1515
01:27:27,520 --> 01:27:31,439
Speaker 1: I'm like, uh stop, She's weird. She was just weird

1516
01:27:31,560 --> 01:27:33,200
Speaker 1: for me, Like I couldn't. I couldn't look at us

1517
01:27:34,200 --> 01:27:37,320
Speaker 1: that little from from the first day I met her,

1518
01:27:37,400 --> 01:27:42,400
Speaker 1: it was like I under the wing protecting you after that,

1519
01:27:42,760 --> 01:27:44,519
Speaker 1: and then it's still that. You know what I'm saying,

1520
01:27:44,840 --> 01:27:46,960
Speaker 1: Like we ain't as close as we once was, but

1521
01:27:47,080 --> 01:27:48,880
Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying to this day, and

1522
01:27:49,200 --> 01:27:51,519
Speaker 1: was like, yo, Rihanna get it. I'm like, yeah, right, cool, Yeah,

1523
01:27:51,560 --> 01:27:54,320
Speaker 1: that's that's cool. I can't. I can't engage in that

1524
01:27:54,360 --> 01:27:56,800
Speaker 1: because that's because because of where we started at, you

1525
01:27:56,840 --> 01:27:59,080
Speaker 1: know what I mean, But you do respect Brihanna is.

1526
01:28:00,320 --> 01:28:05,320
Speaker 1: Rihanna is a worse Rihanna is the chick that's gonna

1527
01:28:05,360 --> 01:28:08,360
Speaker 1: show first and leave last, which is why when I

1528
01:28:08,479 --> 01:28:10,080
Speaker 1: heard she was a billionaire, I was like, yeah, that

1529
01:28:10,200 --> 01:28:14,200
Speaker 1: makes sense because she's accordable. Period. It's like, what we're doing,

1530
01:28:15,080 --> 01:28:17,360
Speaker 1: it ain't done yet. How many days it's been four

1531
01:28:17,439 --> 01:28:19,679
Speaker 1: or five, We're still here. Fuck it until it's done.

1532
01:28:19,720 --> 01:28:23,920
Speaker 1: I'm here, Like that's who Rihanna is. Yeah man, yeah man.

1533
01:28:26,280 --> 01:28:28,200
Speaker 1: And that's what it takes to get to that billion

1534
01:28:28,320 --> 01:28:30,280
Speaker 1: straight up, that's what it takes. You gotta you gotta

1535
01:28:30,360 --> 01:28:32,920
Speaker 1: do this ship, like like you ain't got nothing else

1536
01:28:32,960 --> 01:28:34,400
Speaker 1: to do, or even if you've got something else to do,

1537
01:28:34,479 --> 01:28:37,120
Speaker 1: you've chosen to be here. Goddamn it. That's that's Rihanna.

1538
01:28:37,720 --> 01:28:41,080
Speaker 1: Now let's just get to be So is your first

1539
01:28:41,120 --> 01:28:44,760
Speaker 1: time working, first time working with Beyonce. I'm in the

1540
01:28:44,840 --> 01:28:48,200
Speaker 1: studio and uh, I'm I'm I'm in the studio as

1541
01:28:48,240 --> 01:28:50,400
Speaker 1: a writer at this point. You know, I gotta deal.

1542
01:28:50,479 --> 01:28:52,240
Speaker 1: I'm on def Jam and I'm working on my album,

1543
01:28:52,280 --> 01:28:56,560
Speaker 1: but I'm also just righting. Period. We get a commission

1544
01:28:56,600 --> 01:29:00,120
Speaker 1: to do some ship for Britney Spears. M interesting, I'm like,

1545
01:29:00,400 --> 01:29:11,160
Speaker 1: oh ship before Brie she was Britney. Motherfucker brit Oh Ship. Yeah,

1546
01:29:11,280 --> 01:29:13,920
Speaker 1: let's get it. So, I'm in the studio, I'm working

1547
01:29:13,960 --> 01:29:16,200
Speaker 1: and writing them, writing songs with Britney Spears in mind.

1548
01:29:16,880 --> 01:29:20,280
Speaker 1: Uh shout out to my nigger, Top Time. Top Times

1549
01:29:20,320 --> 01:29:22,920
Speaker 1: comes in the studio every other day, just listening to

1550
01:29:23,040 --> 01:29:25,920
Speaker 1: what I'm doing and every other song. He was like, yo, yeah,

1551
01:29:25,960 --> 01:29:29,560
Speaker 1: let me copy of that, and I'm thinking and for

1552
01:29:29,840 --> 01:29:32,360
Speaker 1: for the label. It's cool. Yeah, yeah, go ahead, go ahead.

1553
01:29:33,200 --> 01:29:35,320
Speaker 1: If I'm doing it for somebody specifically, you're not supposed

1554
01:29:35,320 --> 01:29:37,120
Speaker 1: to give away a copy of the ship, but again

1555
01:29:38,560 --> 01:29:43,200
Speaker 1: my nigger. So Um, I did a song called Flaws

1556
01:29:43,240 --> 01:29:46,320
Speaker 1: and All like the Gun again, Flaws and All. If

1557
01:29:46,360 --> 01:29:49,439
Speaker 1: anybody knows this record, Flaws and All, but it's Beyonce

1558
01:29:49,640 --> 01:29:52,880
Speaker 1: record now, But it started out as a Britney Spears record.

1559
01:29:52,920 --> 01:29:56,600
Speaker 1: I wrote the record for Britney Spears. Talk comes in

1560
01:29:57,280 --> 01:29:59,920
Speaker 1: listening shout out to my boy shor shout out ty talk.

1561
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:02,040
Speaker 1: I'm saying, listen, listen to what me and she is doing.

1562
01:30:02,040 --> 01:30:03,200
Speaker 1: It's like, yo, let me get let me get a

1563
01:30:03,240 --> 01:30:05,559
Speaker 1: copy of that. I'm ride home to the ship whatever.

1564
01:30:05,760 --> 01:30:08,080
Speaker 1: Al Right, cool, yeah, whatever, we give them the ship nigga.

1565
01:30:08,920 --> 01:30:10,439
Speaker 1: Maybe a week later he was like, yeah, so that

1566
01:30:10,520 --> 01:30:13,639
Speaker 1: flaws on All ship. Yeah, don't put that into Brittany pack. Yeah,

1567
01:30:13,720 --> 01:30:18,599
Speaker 1: Beyonce is taking that. What what the fun? What? Wait?

1568
01:30:19,200 --> 01:30:21,120
Speaker 1: Yeah you know yeah, yeah, Beyonce is taking it. Don't worry, boy,

1569
01:30:21,120 --> 01:30:24,200
Speaker 1: don't worry. I don't worry about beyonest is taking that. So, um,

1570
01:30:25,080 --> 01:30:28,400
Speaker 1: what's the other one? What's the other one? Uh? Question

1571
01:30:28,479 --> 01:30:34,840
Speaker 1: exists question existence on Rihanna's Uh Good Girl Girl, Good Girl,

1572
01:30:34,920 --> 01:30:39,080
Speaker 1: Gone Bad album, another song that was supposed to go

1573
01:30:39,200 --> 01:30:43,040
Speaker 1: to Britney Spears. So Outside came in. It was like, yeah,

1574
01:30:43,160 --> 01:30:44,600
Speaker 1: let me get a copy of that. I'm ever just

1575
01:30:44,720 --> 01:30:46,080
Speaker 1: ride to it. Let me get a copy of that.

1576
01:30:48,080 --> 01:30:50,519
Speaker 1: A week later, he's like, yeah, that's that's on Rihanna ship. Yeah,

1577
01:30:50,520 --> 01:30:54,439
Speaker 1: don't put that in the Brittney pack. That's Brianna Nigga.

1578
01:30:55,120 --> 01:30:59,040
Speaker 1: Every Beyonce is the replaceable was not for Britney Spears.

1579
01:30:59,040 --> 01:31:01,440
Speaker 1: I wrote that. I wrote that it for my everyplaceable.

1580
01:31:02,080 --> 01:31:04,960
Speaker 1: It must not know about me, sir, that one. That

1581
01:31:05,040 --> 01:31:07,760
Speaker 1: one wrote that for me. And that's sound good. It

1582
01:31:07,800 --> 01:31:14,599
Speaker 1: sound good. You didn't drink that tea, Honey, you alive?

1583
01:31:16,080 --> 01:31:19,360
Speaker 1: Text me to curse good. I love like you said.

1584
01:31:19,840 --> 01:31:23,439
Speaker 1: He was blown before, Like you don't have vocals before,

1585
01:31:23,479 --> 01:31:28,080
Speaker 1: and then I have not. The police don't hear my

1586
01:31:28,600 --> 01:31:30,960
Speaker 1: super ballot. Listen when you get ready, I'll let your

1587
01:31:30,960 --> 01:31:35,960
Speaker 1: boy ballots all that. No, but but yeah, Beyonce is

1588
01:31:36,120 --> 01:31:39,000
Speaker 1: a placeable. I wrote that ship to keep. Initially I

1589
01:31:39,040 --> 01:31:41,759
Speaker 1: wrote that ship for myself. Yeah, I mean the story

1590
01:31:41,920 --> 01:31:43,720
Speaker 1: is okay. So I grew up in the house with

1591
01:31:43,960 --> 01:31:48,240
Speaker 1: my mother, my grandmother, my sister, and five aunts all

1592
01:31:48,360 --> 01:31:52,519
Speaker 1: women until I was like sixteen, right, So I have

1593
01:31:52,760 --> 01:31:56,200
Speaker 1: one aunt in particular that was This was the aunt

1594
01:31:56,280 --> 01:31:59,040
Speaker 1: that had a new boyfriend like every fucking month. Every month.

1595
01:31:59,120 --> 01:32:02,160
Speaker 1: It was, girl, I love him, he makes me feel

1596
01:32:02,200 --> 01:32:06,080
Speaker 1: he makes me right there to say the least. So

1597
01:32:07,320 --> 01:32:10,000
Speaker 1: this was then in the house that had a little

1598
01:32:10,040 --> 01:32:12,160
Speaker 1: bit more money than everybody else. She was by no

1599
01:32:12,240 --> 01:32:14,200
Speaker 1: means rich. She was living in the house with us. However,

1600
01:32:15,160 --> 01:32:18,760
Speaker 1: she had more money than everybody else. So when she

1601
01:32:18,880 --> 01:32:21,160
Speaker 1: started so when she bought a car for this dude,

1602
01:32:21,400 --> 01:32:25,720
Speaker 1: she bought a jag for this dude. Mind, you you

1603
01:32:26,040 --> 01:32:30,800
Speaker 1: are living in a house with seventeen other people and

1604
01:32:30,920 --> 01:32:34,880
Speaker 1: you bought a shag for this dude. It was so

1605
01:32:35,000 --> 01:32:37,320
Speaker 1: it was it was like it was the talk of

1606
01:32:37,439 --> 01:32:41,559
Speaker 1: the crib for like, mind, I'm like eight eight years old,

1607
01:32:41,640 --> 01:32:44,720
Speaker 1: but I remember this because every conversation, like like my

1608
01:32:44,880 --> 01:32:47,559
Speaker 1: mom and my grandma Aunties, they used to like commune

1609
01:32:47,600 --> 01:32:49,840
Speaker 1: in the kitchen, you know, get their little wine and

1610
01:32:49,960 --> 01:32:52,759
Speaker 1: you know, their their little reef and just just talk

1611
01:32:53,320 --> 01:33:04,920
Speaker 1: that this this is nineteen, this might be this be nicety, right,

1612
01:33:05,960 --> 01:33:08,000
Speaker 1: and they were just sitting just just talk about, you know,

1613
01:33:08,080 --> 01:33:10,560
Speaker 1: just what's going on, talking about her, Like you you

1614
01:33:10,720 --> 01:33:12,559
Speaker 1: you you're spending money on this dude. You didn't even

1615
01:33:12,600 --> 01:33:15,599
Speaker 1: got you, ain't got a jag? Which was wrong with you? Right?

1616
01:33:16,120 --> 01:33:17,840
Speaker 1: And I'm privy to all of this because I'm not

1617
01:33:18,120 --> 01:33:21,679
Speaker 1: I'm literally the only male in the carib So I'm

1618
01:33:21,680 --> 01:33:23,439
Speaker 1: sitting watching Time and Jerry, but all of this is

1619
01:33:23,520 --> 01:33:25,320
Speaker 1: going on. I have no idea that this ship is

1620
01:33:25,360 --> 01:33:27,800
Speaker 1: gonna be song lyrics later on in life. I'm just

1621
01:33:27,880 --> 01:33:29,920
Speaker 1: I'm just locking I'm just locking it in. So I

1622
01:33:30,080 --> 01:33:34,960
Speaker 1: remember when she found out that this dude was rolling

1623
01:33:35,000 --> 01:33:37,599
Speaker 1: around in that same jack But like with other bitches

1624
01:33:37,840 --> 01:33:41,280
Speaker 1: type ship, I remember, I was privy to all the

1625
01:33:41,400 --> 01:33:44,840
Speaker 1: conversations like girls, right, you're gonna be high. I ain't

1626
01:33:44,840 --> 01:33:54,560
Speaker 1: gonna I love you. But that ain't her name, that's

1627
01:33:54,560 --> 01:33:56,479
Speaker 1: her nickname because that no, no, no, that that's what

1628
01:33:56,520 --> 01:33:59,920
Speaker 1: I'm talking about. You take a shot, cook y'all talk.

1629
01:34:00,000 --> 01:34:02,680
Speaker 1: I can take a shot. You can you can't leave

1630
01:34:02,680 --> 01:34:06,240
Speaker 1: cooking suddenly become the person that is not succumbing to

1631
01:34:06,360 --> 01:34:10,040
Speaker 1: pure preser all of a sudden, miss me, we got you?

1632
01:34:15,040 --> 01:34:18,720
Speaker 1: So I so the song is a true story, is

1633
01:34:18,760 --> 01:34:22,000
Speaker 1: a completely true story, like I remember, because I remember

1634
01:34:22,080 --> 01:34:24,519
Speaker 1: this dude. He stuck around just a little bit longer

1635
01:34:24,560 --> 01:34:27,519
Speaker 1: than everybody else, right, and he was always the dude

1636
01:34:27,560 --> 01:34:29,519
Speaker 1: that like, like wanted to rub your head when you

1637
01:34:29,560 --> 01:34:31,160
Speaker 1: come in the group. It's going on a little man,

1638
01:34:31,479 --> 01:34:35,120
Speaker 1: You'll get the hell off me, bro, know you. I

1639
01:34:35,160 --> 01:34:40,760
Speaker 1: feel like I did not like this dude because he

1640
01:34:40,880 --> 01:34:43,439
Speaker 1: was just trying so hard to be liked, you know

1641
01:34:43,479 --> 01:34:47,040
Speaker 1: what I mean. So I remember the day that he

1642
01:34:47,160 --> 01:34:49,559
Speaker 1: pulled up and mind you, because mind you, the auntie

1643
01:34:49,560 --> 01:34:51,200
Speaker 1: hasn't talked about it. Hold on, He's like, oh, yeah,

1644
01:34:51,200 --> 01:34:53,640
Speaker 1: you know we're coming over tomorrow. Oh no, I got

1645
01:34:53,680 --> 01:34:55,320
Speaker 1: all this stuff in this box right here. Yeah, all

1646
01:34:55,400 --> 01:34:58,439
Speaker 1: his stuff is right here. So he pulls up. I'm

1647
01:34:58,479 --> 01:35:00,720
Speaker 1: watching Tom and Jerry walking in house. You do look

1648
01:35:00,880 --> 01:35:04,400
Speaker 1: rub my head was on America. Fuck me off that

1649
01:35:05,680 --> 01:35:11,280
Speaker 1: to this day, to this day, here part of you

1650
01:35:11,439 --> 01:35:14,639
Speaker 1: called trauma? You did you? You called trauma in my life?

1651
01:35:15,200 --> 01:35:20,320
Speaker 1: Did no? No? So so he go back in the

1652
01:35:20,439 --> 01:35:23,880
Speaker 1: room where where we're cookie at, and he's looking for

1653
01:35:24,000 --> 01:35:26,600
Speaker 1: something specifically, like baby, hey, where my mother jacket that.

1654
01:35:26,760 --> 01:35:29,400
Speaker 1: She's like, oh yeah, to the left, yeah, in that

1655
01:35:29,520 --> 01:35:31,519
Speaker 1: box right there, to the left of the closet. That's

1656
01:35:31,520 --> 01:35:36,800
Speaker 1: all your ship right there. And I'm like, mind you,

1657
01:35:36,920 --> 01:35:45,200
Speaker 1: I'm eight, So I'm like you so like they get

1658
01:35:45,240 --> 01:35:46,880
Speaker 1: into it. You know what I'm saying. You you roll

1659
01:35:46,960 --> 01:35:48,680
Speaker 1: around in the car and I bought you with this bit,

1660
01:35:50,200 --> 01:35:51,920
Speaker 1: and I'm just sitting there just soaking it all in.

1661
01:35:52,320 --> 01:35:54,559
Speaker 1: It's hilarious to me at this I'm eight years old.

1662
01:35:54,560 --> 01:35:56,720
Speaker 1: It's hilarious, is funny said, because I didn't like to

1663
01:35:56,760 --> 01:35:59,360
Speaker 1: snik in no way. So I'm like, I'm I'm enjoying

1664
01:35:59,400 --> 01:36:02,519
Speaker 1: the fact that he's getting it. Remember his name, I

1665
01:36:02,600 --> 01:36:04,720
Speaker 1: ain't ain't gonna ain't. I ain't gonna get his ning.

1666
01:36:05,280 --> 01:36:07,600
Speaker 1: Not now. You caused tarum in my life where I

1667
01:36:07,640 --> 01:36:11,439
Speaker 1: wear hats because of you know, give you know credit, bro. No.

1668
01:36:12,400 --> 01:36:16,840
Speaker 1: But so the cat, like I vividly recalled this cat

1669
01:36:16,960 --> 01:36:19,439
Speaker 1: walking out of the house with that box, with all

1670
01:36:19,479 --> 01:36:21,599
Speaker 1: this stuff, and they're talking about you don't never find

1671
01:36:21,880 --> 01:36:24,880
Speaker 1: a little you're like little you know up today, You'll

1672
01:36:24,880 --> 01:36:27,200
Speaker 1: never find somebody little you like me, And it's like

1673
01:36:27,479 --> 01:36:30,799
Speaker 1: and all the aunties just just laughing, just dying laughing.

1674
01:36:30,920 --> 01:36:32,439
Speaker 1: And I wanted to be a part of the laughter

1675
01:36:32,680 --> 01:36:34,040
Speaker 1: like I was. I was eight years old. I just

1676
01:36:34,439 --> 01:36:36,280
Speaker 1: it was joy in the house and I wanted to

1677
01:36:36,360 --> 01:36:38,360
Speaker 1: be a part of that joy. So I'm laughing too.

1678
01:36:38,400 --> 01:36:39,800
Speaker 1: I don't know what the hell I'm laughing, and I'm

1679
01:36:39,840 --> 01:36:44,200
Speaker 1: just laughing with them, and I remember so fast forward

1680
01:36:44,240 --> 01:36:47,880
Speaker 1: to Stargate, I mean the studio with him and they

1681
01:36:47,960 --> 01:36:50,439
Speaker 1: played me at the beginning. It's just just the guitar,

1682
01:36:50,640 --> 01:36:53,080
Speaker 1: the guitar sound that you hear on a replaceable. It's

1683
01:36:53,200 --> 01:36:56,400
Speaker 1: just that initially, and I'm like, I wanted to country

1684
01:36:56,439 --> 01:37:00,240
Speaker 1: ship today and like, yeah, let's try this. Saw some

1685
01:37:00,240 --> 01:37:02,640
Speaker 1: country ship. So I'm listening to this ship and for

1686
01:37:02,760 --> 01:37:05,559
Speaker 1: whatever reason that that that that image of old boy

1687
01:37:05,920 --> 01:37:08,639
Speaker 1: talking at the crib with this box, with this cardboard

1688
01:37:08,680 --> 01:37:11,400
Speaker 1: box with all this ship in it just pops into

1689
01:37:11,479 --> 01:37:14,600
Speaker 1: my head. So so I wrote the song and I'm like,

1690
01:37:14,680 --> 01:37:17,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, but but this was this was my Auntie story.

1691
01:37:17,280 --> 01:37:18,640
Speaker 1: Let me try to flip it to where it's like

1692
01:37:19,000 --> 01:37:20,920
Speaker 1: like I'm telling the girl to leave because she did

1693
01:37:21,000 --> 01:37:22,760
Speaker 1: some foul ship or whatever, like, yeah, let me try that.

1694
01:37:23,200 --> 01:37:24,840
Speaker 1: So I wrote it like that. I wrote it in

1695
01:37:24,960 --> 01:37:27,960
Speaker 1: first person, like it's me telling the girl, awesome, you

1696
01:37:28,080 --> 01:37:30,040
Speaker 1: must not know I can have another U in a minute.

1697
01:37:30,080 --> 01:37:32,479
Speaker 1: Matter of fact, she'll be here in a minute. But

1698
01:37:32,560 --> 01:37:34,080
Speaker 1: then I listened back to the ship and I'm like,

1699
01:37:34,120 --> 01:37:37,320
Speaker 1: all right, at this point in life. The problem the

1700
01:37:37,720 --> 01:37:41,880
Speaker 1: majority of my fan basis female. Do chicks really want

1701
01:37:41,920 --> 01:37:43,800
Speaker 1: to hear me say I can have another U in

1702
01:37:43,840 --> 01:37:45,679
Speaker 1: a minute, matter of fact, she'll be here in a minute.

1703
01:37:47,240 --> 01:37:51,960
Speaker 1: Maybe not maybe not right? That's that? Yeah, like that

1704
01:37:52,160 --> 01:37:56,080
Speaker 1: that that ship comes across real mean, real misogynistic, you

1705
01:37:56,120 --> 01:37:59,200
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So but but then a little bit,

1706
01:37:59,360 --> 01:38:04,280
Speaker 1: a little bit, I'm sitting with starting and I'm like, yo, okay,

1707
01:38:04,320 --> 01:38:08,200
Speaker 1: so there's clearly something to this record, but this, this

1708
01:38:08,280 --> 01:38:10,360
Speaker 1: ship might not be for me, y'all. This we might

1709
01:38:10,439 --> 01:38:12,160
Speaker 1: need to we might need to get a female to

1710
01:38:12,240 --> 01:38:15,200
Speaker 1: sing this. Because if you take that same concept, that

1711
01:38:15,320 --> 01:38:17,519
Speaker 1: same lyric, I can have another U in a minute,

1712
01:38:17,560 --> 01:38:19,600
Speaker 1: matter of fact, he'll be here in a minute, and

1713
01:38:19,720 --> 01:38:21,479
Speaker 1: you give it. You let a chick sing, and it's

1714
01:38:21,560 --> 01:38:26,120
Speaker 1: it's it becomes empowering. You see a seeing women behind

1715
01:38:26,200 --> 01:38:27,760
Speaker 1: her with the fist of like, that's right, girl, we

1716
01:38:27,760 --> 01:38:29,280
Speaker 1: ain't gonna take it. Like you can see that ship.

1717
01:38:29,800 --> 01:38:31,280
Speaker 1: So I'm like, yeah, this, we might need to get

1718
01:38:31,320 --> 01:38:34,479
Speaker 1: this to a female. So basically, you sold men out,

1719
01:38:35,640 --> 01:38:39,639
Speaker 1: I mean, boyfriends and baby Daddy's all over the world

1720
01:38:39,760 --> 01:38:41,599
Speaker 1: was mad at me for a little while behind that ship.

1721
01:38:41,680 --> 01:38:49,800
Speaker 1: They was, they were let's listen all up. But at

1722
01:38:49,840 --> 01:38:54,040
Speaker 1: the end of the day, if I can't get if

1723
01:38:54,080 --> 01:38:56,120
Speaker 1: I can get in good with the smarter race, I'm

1724
01:38:56,160 --> 01:38:59,680
Speaker 1: problemnna do that. You can't. That's the start of this.

1725
01:38:59,840 --> 01:39:06,200
Speaker 1: That's that vision. I can't figure some sh out my wife,

1726
01:39:06,320 --> 01:39:09,800
Speaker 1: come and figure it out, because I was like, why

1727
01:39:10,240 --> 01:39:12,040
Speaker 1: the same ship? And then again, I can't hook up

1728
01:39:12,040 --> 01:39:14,800
Speaker 1: with Nintendo. You can't hook up with Nintendo. I don't

1729
01:39:14,800 --> 01:39:17,320
Speaker 1: know how to look up. I'm not the fact that

1730
01:39:17,400 --> 01:39:22,280
Speaker 1: you said Nintendo and not Xbox or he's still it

1731
01:39:22,400 --> 01:39:24,639
Speaker 1: speaks to the fact that you can't help Nintendo. Let's

1732
01:39:24,680 --> 01:39:35,240
Speaker 1: all good. You can't, so good, keep the like this

1733
01:39:35,520 --> 01:39:39,960
Speaker 1: is not worth Let's go on, let's go, Let's get

1734
01:39:40,000 --> 01:39:42,760
Speaker 1: that week guds going again. You met Michael Jackson. I

1735
01:39:42,880 --> 01:39:47,960
Speaker 1: met Michael Jackson. How was it? Um threal? Which Michael

1736
01:39:48,040 --> 01:39:51,000
Speaker 1: Jackson's What era of Michael Jackson is? I met my

1737
01:39:51,120 --> 01:39:57,439
Speaker 1: definitely white. I met Mike roughly eight months before he passed.

1738
01:39:57,640 --> 01:40:00,200
Speaker 1: Oh wow, yeah, that's when you first met. That's for

1739
01:40:00,360 --> 01:40:06,360
Speaker 1: the first first minute that so I get a phone

1740
01:40:06,439 --> 01:40:10,880
Speaker 1: call one day my personal cell phone. I'm actually in

1741
01:40:10,960 --> 01:40:13,559
Speaker 1: the car en route to rehearsal because he was getting

1742
01:40:13,560 --> 01:40:15,640
Speaker 1: we was gearing up to get on tour. So I

1743
01:40:15,720 --> 01:40:18,160
Speaker 1: get a call. I answered. The call is an unknown

1744
01:40:18,240 --> 01:40:20,559
Speaker 1: I normally don't answer unknown numbers, like if I don't

1745
01:40:20,560 --> 01:40:23,040
Speaker 1: got you saved in my phone, enough with you. But

1746
01:40:23,160 --> 01:40:25,120
Speaker 1: I answered this one just because on a humbug. I'm

1747
01:40:25,120 --> 01:40:29,760
Speaker 1: in the car. Whatever, So I pick it up. Hello, Hi, Hey,

1748
01:40:30,920 --> 01:40:35,040
Speaker 1: who is this? It's Michael because it was a crank caller.

1749
01:40:35,640 --> 01:40:44,360
Speaker 1: Michael Who Michael Jackson? All right, click because clearly somebody's

1750
01:40:44,400 --> 01:40:46,640
Speaker 1: working with me at this click. Somebody messing with me, right,

1751
01:40:47,200 --> 01:40:49,680
Speaker 1: So within five minutes of that phone call, I get

1752
01:40:49,680 --> 01:40:52,080
Speaker 1: another phone call from my assistant. At this point, he's like, Yo,

1753
01:40:52,720 --> 01:40:55,160
Speaker 1: so um are you sitting down? I'm like, I'm in

1754
01:40:55,240 --> 01:40:57,040
Speaker 1: the car. We're talking about it. It's like, Yo, Michael

1755
01:40:57,120 --> 01:40:59,280
Speaker 1: Jackson is about to call you and talk to you

1756
01:40:59,280 --> 01:41:03,000
Speaker 1: about some music. I'm like about to call me or

1757
01:41:03,080 --> 01:41:06,680
Speaker 1: already called me like ten minutes ago. Down. Oh she

1758
01:41:06,760 --> 01:41:09,400
Speaker 1: didn't already call you? Yeah? I hung up in his thinking,

1759
01:41:09,600 --> 01:41:15,200
Speaker 1: hung up on, Michael, you're being late with this call, baby,

1760
01:41:15,320 --> 01:41:23,920
Speaker 1: hang up with Michael was so so he calls me back,

1761
01:41:24,360 --> 01:41:25,880
Speaker 1: and of course our front. I'm like, yeah, you know,

1762
01:41:25,920 --> 01:41:28,240
Speaker 1: I was, I was, I was going under a bridge.

1763
01:41:28,760 --> 01:41:33,080
Speaker 1: We got this bad reception. But he was like he

1764
01:41:33,200 --> 01:41:35,880
Speaker 1: basically said, I would love to get in the studio

1765
01:41:36,040 --> 01:41:40,640
Speaker 1: and work with you. And I'm like, I'm literally not

1766
01:41:40,880 --> 01:41:43,360
Speaker 1: inside my body right now, Like, what do you want

1767
01:41:43,400 --> 01:41:46,599
Speaker 1: to work with me? Alright, cool, let's let's let's set

1768
01:41:46,640 --> 01:41:48,160
Speaker 1: it up. Let's get it together. You know there's people,

1769
01:41:48,280 --> 01:41:50,720
Speaker 1: call my people whatever. Whatever. He said, he wanted to meet.

1770
01:41:50,760 --> 01:41:52,280
Speaker 1: I want to I want to meet with you, and

1771
01:41:52,320 --> 01:41:53,439
Speaker 1: I want to talk to you about the kind of

1772
01:41:53,520 --> 01:41:55,720
Speaker 1: music I want to produce. So we set it up.

1773
01:41:56,680 --> 01:41:58,760
Speaker 1: We set up to meet at Leo Cohen's shout out

1774
01:41:58,800 --> 01:42:01,040
Speaker 1: to Leo Cohen. Up set up to me that Leo

1775
01:42:01,120 --> 01:42:03,599
Speaker 1: Cohen's crib because he wanted to meet somewhere private out

1776
01:42:03,640 --> 01:42:05,839
Speaker 1: the way, you know what I'm saying. And I completely

1777
01:42:05,880 --> 01:42:12,800
Speaker 1: understood that York in New York Y, so I don't

1778
01:42:12,800 --> 01:42:19,080
Speaker 1: I don't know, you get details. So I go. I

1779
01:42:19,160 --> 01:42:22,760
Speaker 1: go to Leo Cohen's house, whichever one it was in

1780
01:42:23,040 --> 01:42:25,680
Speaker 1: at the time, right, you know, we chopped up for

1781
01:42:25,760 --> 01:42:27,760
Speaker 1: him and he's like, he's here, he's just just going.

1782
01:42:28,280 --> 01:42:30,320
Speaker 1: He put me in like a study, like because because

1783
01:42:30,360 --> 01:42:32,599
Speaker 1: it's Leo Cohen, so he has a study in his house.

1784
01:42:33,760 --> 01:42:36,479
Speaker 1: He's there, he's yeah, he answered the door. It's there.

1785
01:42:37,280 --> 01:42:39,479
Speaker 1: So he puts me in the study, which is like

1786
01:42:39,560 --> 01:42:41,760
Speaker 1: a room three times besides of this room just full

1787
01:42:41,800 --> 01:42:44,559
Speaker 1: of books. It's Leo Cohen. All right, cool. So Michael

1788
01:42:44,640 --> 01:42:46,880
Speaker 1: Jackson walks in. He has on an all black suit,

1789
01:42:47,120 --> 01:42:52,439
Speaker 1: sup sup shirt, whole suit, he Nigga. So I'm gonna

1790
01:42:52,479 --> 01:42:56,920
Speaker 1: tell you, so I knew. I knew that Michael Jackson

1791
01:42:57,000 --> 01:42:59,400
Speaker 1: was like six ft tall, but like when he walked

1792
01:42:59,439 --> 01:43:02,679
Speaker 1: in the room, he's six ft tall. Michael jacks sick. Yeah,

1793
01:43:02,680 --> 01:43:06,320
Speaker 1: he's sixty six too big. His tall dude, Michael is

1794
01:43:06,320 --> 01:43:08,800
Speaker 1: a tall dude. Yeah right now, you didn't know that

1795
01:43:09,920 --> 01:43:12,960
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson was easily six ft tall. Yeah, tall dude.

1796
01:43:13,439 --> 01:43:15,040
Speaker 1: But when he walked in the room and Nigga was

1797
01:43:15,080 --> 01:43:18,400
Speaker 1: ten feet tall, Like like he walked in he had

1798
01:43:18,479 --> 01:43:25,320
Speaker 1: on these aviator the aviator glasses with the mirror joints though,

1799
01:43:25,400 --> 01:43:28,280
Speaker 1: like this ship that like the bike cops were like,

1800
01:43:28,360 --> 01:43:30,439
Speaker 1: you know, how fast you were going? Like them cops?

1801
01:43:30,640 --> 01:43:32,960
Speaker 1: He had on them ships right with the fucking with

1802
01:43:33,120 --> 01:43:34,720
Speaker 1: the with the whole ship on his wrist, like he

1803
01:43:34,920 --> 01:43:37,680
Speaker 1: broke his thumb with some ship. And he walks in

1804
01:43:38,320 --> 01:43:40,719
Speaker 1: and his first words to me are, oh my gosh,

1805
01:43:40,760 --> 01:43:43,760
Speaker 1: you know what my favorite song of yours is? Now?

1806
01:43:43,920 --> 01:43:46,920
Speaker 1: Mind you? Tom stops at this moment because I'm like,

1807
01:43:47,040 --> 01:43:50,360
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson is asking me if I know what his

1808
01:43:50,520 --> 01:43:58,840
Speaker 1: favorite song? This is Michael, he had like like an

1809
01:43:58,920 --> 01:44:01,720
Speaker 1: arm break, like a break some ship. Like like, I'm saying,

1810
01:44:01,720 --> 01:44:03,439
Speaker 1: that's that's on the left hand, the whole joint on

1811
01:44:03,560 --> 01:44:09,120
Speaker 1: the right glove finger with the whole joint with didn't

1812
01:44:09,120 --> 01:44:10,760
Speaker 1: have that on. You didn't have it on, Okay, So

1813
01:44:10,920 --> 01:44:12,800
Speaker 1: mind you. He says to me, oh my god, you

1814
01:44:12,840 --> 01:44:14,840
Speaker 1: know what my favorite song of yours is, and then

1815
01:44:14,960 --> 01:44:18,400
Speaker 1: the nigga commences to singing the song. Please don't worry

1816
01:44:18,479 --> 01:44:21,280
Speaker 1: about me. I'm fine with the hand pop on the

1817
01:44:21,280 --> 01:44:23,559
Speaker 1: whole line. Now. I never felt like a twelve year

1818
01:44:23,560 --> 01:44:28,439
Speaker 1: old girl in my life. In that moment, I was

1819
01:44:28,479 --> 01:44:30,720
Speaker 1: a twelve year old girl. Did you compose yourself? I

1820
01:44:30,840 --> 01:44:33,360
Speaker 1: kept I kept it cool, And I'm like, this is Mike.

1821
01:44:33,479 --> 01:44:35,240
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't fan out of front of this

1822
01:44:37,360 --> 01:44:41,360
Speaker 1: nor hands. No, I cannot this is Michael fucking Jackson. No,

1823
01:44:41,439 --> 01:44:46,439
Speaker 1: I gotta, I gotta maintain. But inside it was oh

1824
01:44:46,520 --> 01:44:49,200
Speaker 1: my god, I say my music, it was that inside,

1825
01:44:49,560 --> 01:44:52,040
Speaker 1: But I kept on the inside, right, So we said

1826
01:44:52,120 --> 01:44:53,800
Speaker 1: we talked for about an hour and a half, which

1827
01:44:53,800 --> 01:44:57,920
Speaker 1: is about music in general and how choreography looks like

1828
01:44:58,160 --> 01:45:02,400
Speaker 1: he said, he said, choreo your feet now looks like Calistenics.

1829
01:45:03,960 --> 01:45:08,800
Speaker 1: And I was like, okay, that's interesting. No, no, he

1830
01:45:08,880 --> 01:45:11,080
Speaker 1: was like. He was like, it's like people aren't dancing

1831
01:45:11,160 --> 01:45:13,040
Speaker 1: for the joy of dancing anymore. Like it looks it

1832
01:45:13,120 --> 01:45:16,000
Speaker 1: looks like a robix now. And I'm like, okay, okay,

1833
01:45:16,120 --> 01:45:18,400
Speaker 1: that's interesting. So so we talked about, you know, what

1834
01:45:18,520 --> 01:45:20,000
Speaker 1: he wanted to do with the next album, what he

1835
01:45:20,040 --> 01:45:22,640
Speaker 1: wanted to sound like the whole nine and uh, he

1836
01:45:22,720 --> 01:45:25,800
Speaker 1: gave me a phone number. So for the next like

1837
01:45:26,000 --> 01:45:28,479
Speaker 1: two weeks, I'm back and forth on the phone with

1838
01:45:28,640 --> 01:45:33,120
Speaker 1: Michael fucking Jackson. I'm sending him records. He's critiquing the records.

1839
01:45:33,120 --> 01:45:35,599
Speaker 1: They called me like, yo, I really love number three.

1840
01:45:36,200 --> 01:45:38,960
Speaker 1: Number three is so special, but I feel like the

1841
01:45:39,040 --> 01:45:41,160
Speaker 1: hook is just not right, Like if you just just

1842
01:45:41,400 --> 01:45:44,400
Speaker 1: just retouch the hook on number three, and like so

1843
01:45:44,640 --> 01:45:47,800
Speaker 1: so it's like about six records that me and Mike

1844
01:45:48,040 --> 01:45:50,760
Speaker 1: put together via just on the phone, just talking about

1845
01:45:50,760 --> 01:45:52,760
Speaker 1: the ship's right if she's to send in a hard driver.

1846
01:45:53,080 --> 01:45:56,360
Speaker 1: I've done nothing with him, but um, the plan was

1847
01:45:56,439 --> 01:46:00,080
Speaker 1: to get in and record these records after the so

1848
01:46:00,320 --> 01:46:03,439
Speaker 1: you saw the film, this is it. So after that tour,

1849
01:46:03,880 --> 01:46:05,639
Speaker 1: we were supposed to get in the record these records.

1850
01:46:05,680 --> 01:46:07,720
Speaker 1: And of course, you know, he passed before he even

1851
01:46:07,720 --> 01:46:10,439
Speaker 1: got a chance to do that tour. So yeah, so

1852
01:46:10,640 --> 01:46:13,240
Speaker 1: I still got the records. They're just sitting You're sitting

1853
01:46:13,320 --> 01:46:14,639
Speaker 1: waiting for me to figure out what the hell I'm

1854
01:46:14,640 --> 01:46:17,479
Speaker 1: gonna do with him. It's just it's never filed any

1855
01:46:17,520 --> 01:46:19,439
Speaker 1: of his no, no, no, so I saw it's all

1856
01:46:19,479 --> 01:46:21,639
Speaker 1: me on the vocals. But it's records that I wrote

1857
01:46:21,680 --> 01:46:24,439
Speaker 1: with Mike. The prep we was prepping them for him

1858
01:46:24,520 --> 01:46:27,840
Speaker 1: to get them after the tour. He died before the tour.

1859
01:46:28,080 --> 01:46:30,479
Speaker 1: We didn't get a chance to get him. So I

1860
01:46:30,560 --> 01:46:34,920
Speaker 1: got the records, and nothing feels right, if that makes sense, Like,

1861
01:46:34,960 --> 01:46:36,680
Speaker 1: it don't feel right to drop him as my own

1862
01:46:36,720 --> 01:46:38,880
Speaker 1: because I wrote them from Mike. Don't feel right to

1863
01:46:38,920 --> 01:46:41,000
Speaker 1: sell them because I wrote them from Mike. You know what,

1864
01:46:41,080 --> 01:46:42,640
Speaker 1: I mean, and I would never want the motherfucker to

1865
01:46:42,680 --> 01:46:44,880
Speaker 1: fix their mouth, to be like Neo trying to make

1866
01:46:44,920 --> 01:46:46,960
Speaker 1: some money off of Mike's name. If I just put

1867
01:46:47,040 --> 01:46:49,160
Speaker 1: them ships out like these as the records and me

1868
01:46:49,200 --> 01:46:51,560
Speaker 1: and Michael's gonna do before he passed, you know what

1869
01:46:51,600 --> 01:46:53,680
Speaker 1: I mean? So so I would you sell it to

1870
01:46:53,760 --> 01:46:58,160
Speaker 1: like Chris Brown or something like that would be crazy.

1871
01:46:59,680 --> 01:47:01,960
Speaker 1: All the love in the world to Chris Brown, all

1872
01:47:02,040 --> 01:47:06,439
Speaker 1: of that, But these records were written for Michael Jackson.

1873
01:47:06,840 --> 01:47:09,920
Speaker 1: I'm not putting another voice on his records. I'm not

1874
01:47:10,160 --> 01:47:12,560
Speaker 1: doing it. I can't. I personally can't do it. I

1875
01:47:12,640 --> 01:47:14,920
Speaker 1: can't do it. I can't do it, and I and

1876
01:47:15,040 --> 01:47:18,920
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't doubt that that Chris or or

1877
01:47:19,080 --> 01:47:21,880
Speaker 1: Bruno Mars and some elements were smashed these ships, I

1878
01:47:21,880 --> 01:47:23,960
Speaker 1: don't doubt it at all. But the fact that I

1879
01:47:24,040 --> 01:47:26,920
Speaker 1: wrote them for Mike, intended for Mike and Mike's voice,

1880
01:47:26,960 --> 01:47:30,000
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't. I can't tell you my Mike story.

1881
01:47:30,080 --> 01:47:34,200
Speaker 1: I've never met Mike, but um for roll called me.

1882
01:47:35,400 --> 01:47:38,040
Speaker 1: This is the most exciting for Rolls every story man,

1883
01:47:38,360 --> 01:47:40,720
Speaker 1: and and It's and and It's life. He called me,

1884
01:47:40,800 --> 01:47:44,560
Speaker 1: and It's like, yo, Mike called us and said that

1885
01:47:44,640 --> 01:47:47,760
Speaker 1: he wants records from us. So it's like, yo, that's

1886
01:47:47,800 --> 01:47:50,639
Speaker 1: fucking dope. He said, we seen them all these fucking

1887
01:47:50,680 --> 01:47:54,720
Speaker 1: records and if it goes so, then were seen on

1888
01:47:54,800 --> 01:47:56,800
Speaker 1: these records. And then Mike gets on the phone with

1889
01:47:56,920 --> 01:48:00,280
Speaker 1: us and says, no, we don't want this, we want something.

1890
01:48:00,360 --> 01:48:05,760
Speaker 1: Nor we wild wrapped one, nor would wrap one. I

1891
01:48:05,840 --> 01:48:08,880
Speaker 1: want super Doug, but nor wouldn't rap on it. Don't

1892
01:48:09,479 --> 01:48:11,200
Speaker 1: You didn't know that till for real said it, right? No?

1893
01:48:11,479 --> 01:48:13,439
Speaker 1: I did not on the show. No, no, no, I

1894
01:48:13,520 --> 01:48:16,880
Speaker 1: knew that because he called He called me. He was like,

1895
01:48:17,040 --> 01:48:22,560
Speaker 1: how I would walk around knowing that. I was like,

1896
01:48:22,640 --> 01:48:34,639
Speaker 1: oh yeah, just having Mike reference from oh yeah, I'm

1897
01:48:34,680 --> 01:48:45,040
Speaker 1: taking a show that now, Yeah, thank you. Okay, look

1898
01:48:45,120 --> 01:48:49,320
Speaker 1: that's different. Yeah, that's different. That's yo. The whole Fellers.

1899
01:48:49,880 --> 01:48:55,960
Speaker 1: So it was crazy. The whole concept of the people

1900
01:48:56,040 --> 01:48:58,800
Speaker 1: comparing like Drake to Michael Jackson. People are preparing Chris

1901
01:48:58,920 --> 01:49:03,799
Speaker 1: to Michael Jackson. It's a compliment. It's an absolute compliment,

1902
01:49:03,840 --> 01:49:06,839
Speaker 1: and I hope the book has taken it as such. However,

1903
01:49:09,120 --> 01:49:12,880
Speaker 1: how dare you like the numbers that this man was

1904
01:49:12,960 --> 01:49:16,200
Speaker 1: doing at the time that he was doing them. Mind you,

1905
01:49:16,320 --> 01:49:20,720
Speaker 1: this is before YouTube, Spotify, all these different things that

1906
01:49:20,880 --> 01:49:23,080
Speaker 1: allows the whole world to get the music. At the

1907
01:49:23,120 --> 01:49:26,280
Speaker 1: same time, that ship didn't exist when Michael was doing

1908
01:49:26,360 --> 01:49:29,200
Speaker 1: what he was doing, and the numbers that he was doing,

1909
01:49:29,320 --> 01:49:32,280
Speaker 1: Like even if you matching Mike's numbers right now, it's like,

1910
01:49:32,400 --> 01:49:34,840
Speaker 1: you still can't compare NI because you're doing it right now.

1911
01:49:35,560 --> 01:49:40,280
Speaker 1: Do that in the eighties the video market, Come on,

1912
01:49:41,560 --> 01:49:45,320
Speaker 1: there is no comparison. That's not You can never say

1913
01:49:45,360 --> 01:49:47,800
Speaker 1: that talent ain't going to exist after Michael Jackson yet,

1914
01:49:47,960 --> 01:49:50,160
Speaker 1: sure of course. So let me just tell you. So.

1915
01:49:50,320 --> 01:49:52,439
Speaker 1: The funny thing is so all the records that he

1916
01:49:52,560 --> 01:49:56,600
Speaker 1: made for Mike, he gave the Justini I know I

1917
01:49:56,720 --> 01:50:00,639
Speaker 1: heard that, and and one of them the baby face,

1918
01:50:02,080 --> 01:50:06,759
Speaker 1: so it's crazy. And then he was basically telling me, Laurie,

1919
01:50:06,840 --> 01:50:08,960
Speaker 1: I need you to pick these beats for me, Like

1920
01:50:09,120 --> 01:50:11,960
Speaker 1: I had to kind of go pick the worst beats

1921
01:50:13,520 --> 01:50:16,160
Speaker 1: because because you know, I like, I like gangs, this,

1922
01:50:16,520 --> 01:50:17,920
Speaker 1: I like, you know what I mean. And that was

1923
01:50:17,960 --> 01:50:19,560
Speaker 1: an honor though it was it was it was a

1924
01:50:19,680 --> 01:50:21,240
Speaker 1: real honor. But I never got to meet Mike. At

1925
01:50:21,280 --> 01:50:24,479
Speaker 1: least you got to know that Mike was sitting somewhere

1926
01:50:24,520 --> 01:50:31,360
Speaker 1: in the world like I need something like this, call it,

1927
01:50:31,760 --> 01:50:44,600
Speaker 1: then call it. There's no bigger accolade than that. But

1928
01:50:45,000 --> 01:50:50,160
Speaker 1: that might be the best Michael Jackson depression. Other people tried,

1929
01:50:50,280 --> 01:50:57,720
Speaker 1: but I believed him. Just now listen, this is this

1930
01:50:57,880 --> 01:51:00,800
Speaker 1: is the machine. We are trying to get everyone in

1931
01:51:00,880 --> 01:51:03,920
Speaker 1: the room high because we are good people and I'm not.

1932
01:51:04,439 --> 01:51:06,640
Speaker 1: Can I tell you how genius of a concept this

1933
01:51:06,760 --> 01:51:10,400
Speaker 1: whole show is because you you already know you're dealing

1934
01:51:10,439 --> 01:51:13,560
Speaker 1: with artists, artists coming in there with the politically correct like,

1935
01:51:13,720 --> 01:51:17,280
Speaker 1: let me they got, they got The answer to your

1936
01:51:17,360 --> 01:51:19,720
Speaker 1: question is already set, like I'm gonna say this as

1937
01:51:19,800 --> 01:51:22,439
Speaker 1: to not to say that, and you get him a

1938
01:51:22,520 --> 01:51:28,800
Speaker 1: fucking and you get him drunk. You listen, you're gonna

1939
01:51:28,800 --> 01:51:32,240
Speaker 1: say the real ship the girls want, not you don't

1940
01:51:32,320 --> 01:51:35,720
Speaker 1: talk to real ship. Genius concept. But by the way,

1941
01:51:35,880 --> 01:51:38,120
Speaker 1: me and him was in the locker room with you guys,

1942
01:51:38,800 --> 01:51:40,760
Speaker 1: I mean, work your records. I worked for them, Jim.

1943
01:51:41,920 --> 01:51:48,679
Speaker 1: So he's a real real DJ, re create DJ motherfuckers

1944
01:51:48,720 --> 01:51:54,960
Speaker 1: with the c driving you know what I mean. He's

1945
01:51:55,000 --> 01:51:57,120
Speaker 1: that type of any gigs who worked your records to

1946
01:51:57,280 --> 01:51:59,920
Speaker 1: the part of the Street Team. Nowords too as well.

1947
01:52:00,240 --> 01:52:02,200
Speaker 1: So now only is a DJ. He he ran the

1948
01:52:02,280 --> 01:52:05,800
Speaker 1: street team. So and then me, I was, I'm a

1949
01:52:05,880 --> 01:52:07,960
Speaker 1: real artist. Like I'm a real artist. I don't know

1950
01:52:07,960 --> 01:52:10,400
Speaker 1: what I got platform blacks, you know what. I don't

1951
01:52:10,400 --> 01:52:16,120
Speaker 1: want to reproduce your fan So I'm fancies. Don't tell

1952
01:52:16,160 --> 01:52:18,560
Speaker 1: me you staff somebody to come porn. I mean I

1953
01:52:18,680 --> 01:52:22,160
Speaker 1: thought about it. You heard of many that may consider right,

1954
01:52:22,240 --> 01:52:24,439
Speaker 1: but now I didn't go there. But so that's the

1955
01:52:24,520 --> 01:52:26,960
Speaker 1: reason why. Like, and you know what it is. Oh,

1956
01:52:27,800 --> 01:52:31,519
Speaker 1: bring it on, bring it on rental. It's gonna make

1957
01:52:31,600 --> 01:52:39,760
Speaker 1: him talk more. Yeah, the way you do it is hilarious. Yea.

1958
01:52:39,840 --> 01:52:41,679
Speaker 1: I need one of them ships at the crib bl

1959
01:52:43,200 --> 01:52:44,800
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I need I need this

1960
01:52:44,920 --> 01:52:47,720
Speaker 1: ship set up to the A C system in my house.

1961
01:52:48,120 --> 01:52:50,320
Speaker 1: A C. Oh. So when you walk in my house,

1962
01:52:51,320 --> 01:52:56,600
Speaker 1: no choice but to take the shoes. He went to

1963
01:52:56,680 --> 01:52:59,880
Speaker 1: the room. He went to the room, cleanse the rooms.

1964
01:53:00,000 --> 01:53:03,799
Speaker 1: At this stage, Nig's gonna be in the house. Honest.

1965
01:53:04,600 --> 01:53:07,360
Speaker 1: I don't know why. I don't know why. I just

1966
01:53:07,400 --> 01:53:09,400
Speaker 1: gotta tell you the truth right now. Then we gotta

1967
01:53:09,439 --> 01:53:20,360
Speaker 1: take a shot. Yo. I was having a uh, I

1968
01:53:20,479 --> 01:53:24,400
Speaker 1: was having a conversation just recently, what somebody about about

1969
01:53:24,439 --> 01:53:26,680
Speaker 1: the state of R and B. State of R and B.

1970
01:53:27,040 --> 01:53:28,680
Speaker 1: You know, the album is out, so everybody want to

1971
01:53:28,720 --> 01:53:29,960
Speaker 1: talk to me about the state of R and B.

1972
01:53:31,360 --> 01:53:34,760
Speaker 1: And I had I had a realization, like in the

1973
01:53:35,000 --> 01:53:39,040
Speaker 1: in the midst of this of this question. So you

1974
01:53:39,120 --> 01:53:41,439
Speaker 1: know that, like right this second, hip hop is the

1975
01:53:41,520 --> 01:53:45,080
Speaker 1: biggest genre of music in the world period, in the world,

1976
01:53:45,479 --> 01:53:47,960
Speaker 1: right and it's been that for like the last few years.

1977
01:53:48,920 --> 01:53:52,479
Speaker 1: So when that happened, because before that it was like

1978
01:53:52,600 --> 01:53:55,320
Speaker 1: what it was rock or country or some ship. But

1979
01:53:55,400 --> 01:53:57,599
Speaker 1: then it then it happened with hip hop, and then

1980
01:53:57,640 --> 01:54:00,680
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, every other genre gets the hip

1981
01:54:00,720 --> 01:54:04,400
Speaker 1: hop makeover. Now we got trap country records, you know, everything,

1982
01:54:05,200 --> 01:54:10,479
Speaker 1: everything has gotten trap country basically. That's that's I mean,

1983
01:54:10,520 --> 01:54:11,960
Speaker 1: that's how it started. I don't know what you call

1984
01:54:12,040 --> 01:54:15,960
Speaker 1: him now, but that's how it started. So it occurred

1985
01:54:16,000 --> 01:54:19,000
Speaker 1: to me that like, yo, everything got like a hip

1986
01:54:19,080 --> 01:54:23,679
Speaker 1: hop makeover. When hip hop became the most special genre

1987
01:54:23,720 --> 01:54:25,880
Speaker 1: of music on the face of the planet, R and

1988
01:54:25,960 --> 01:54:29,080
Speaker 1: B included, and you look at the new generational R

1989
01:54:29,160 --> 01:54:31,200
Speaker 1: and B and what and how they do what they do.

1990
01:54:31,520 --> 01:54:34,920
Speaker 1: And mind you, some people have issue with today's R

1991
01:54:34,960 --> 01:54:37,000
Speaker 1: and B because it don't feel like R and B

1992
01:54:37,080 --> 01:54:39,040
Speaker 1: in the nineties and nineties was the last time R

1993
01:54:39,080 --> 01:54:42,000
Speaker 1: and B had its own identity like traditional, It wasn't

1994
01:54:42,440 --> 01:54:45,800
Speaker 1: the ugly cousin of hip hop right kind of what

1995
01:54:45,960 --> 01:54:48,200
Speaker 1: it is now. So but you look at the new

1996
01:54:49,040 --> 01:54:52,080
Speaker 1: the new generation that's coming up, and you look at

1997
01:54:52,280 --> 01:54:55,160
Speaker 1: what they're coming coming up on. They're coming up on

1998
01:54:55,280 --> 01:54:58,400
Speaker 1: hip hop. So of course that even they R and

1999
01:54:58,520 --> 01:55:01,600
Speaker 1: B is gonna feel like hip hop because they came

2000
01:55:01,680 --> 01:55:04,960
Speaker 1: up looking up to the hip hop niggas. So you

2001
01:55:05,040 --> 01:55:07,960
Speaker 1: know when people actually like the whole concept of the

2002
01:55:08,120 --> 01:55:10,800
Speaker 1: vulnerability of R and B and what that was like

2003
01:55:11,280 --> 01:55:13,080
Speaker 1: we we we came up in the air where niggas

2004
01:55:13,120 --> 01:55:15,200
Speaker 1: was begging on the record and that was what it was.

2005
01:55:15,320 --> 01:55:18,320
Speaker 1: That was what it was like, Baby baby please was

2006
01:55:18,440 --> 01:55:21,640
Speaker 1: what it was. You know what I'm saying, We're singing

2007
01:55:21,680 --> 01:55:24,600
Speaker 1: and the wife beat up like this is what it was.

2008
01:55:25,880 --> 01:55:28,240
Speaker 1: But these young cast is coming up off of the

2009
01:55:28,360 --> 01:55:32,000
Speaker 1: hip hop niggas. They want to be that, you know

2010
01:55:32,000 --> 01:55:34,240
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's like, all right, I say, and

2011
01:55:34,280 --> 01:55:36,920
Speaker 1: I gotta be that. And that's a blurry line something

2012
01:55:37,080 --> 01:55:39,480
Speaker 1: I'm not even saying. The R and B. They straight

2013
01:55:39,800 --> 01:55:43,520
Speaker 1: rapping with auto tune, really right, it's rapping to a melody,

2014
01:55:44,040 --> 01:55:45,160
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of the R and B

2015
01:55:45,360 --> 01:55:47,840
Speaker 1: right now. But but it's like, I can't be mad

2016
01:55:47,920 --> 01:55:49,640
Speaker 1: at them because I have to look at where they're

2017
01:55:49,680 --> 01:55:52,640
Speaker 1: coming from, what they're coming up, listening to who they're

2018
01:55:52,640 --> 01:55:55,800
Speaker 1: coming up on. Hip Hop became the biggest genre music

2019
01:55:55,880 --> 01:55:58,800
Speaker 1: in the world, so not everybody is paying paying attention

2020
01:55:58,880 --> 01:56:01,440
Speaker 1: to hip hop. So no matter what genre you doing,

2021
01:56:02,400 --> 01:56:05,000
Speaker 1: you got hip hop right here. So even if it's

2022
01:56:05,040 --> 01:56:06,680
Speaker 1: if it's country, if it's R and B, if it's

2023
01:56:06,720 --> 01:56:10,080
Speaker 1: if it's if it's uh, if it's Spanish, whatever the fuck,

2024
01:56:10,480 --> 01:56:12,200
Speaker 1: it's going to have a hip hop element to it

2025
01:56:12,320 --> 01:56:22,960
Speaker 1: because everybody sucks with hip hop. Take a selfies, what happened? No, no, no, no,

2026
01:56:23,080 --> 01:56:27,240
Speaker 1: no no. So I can't be mad at these names

2027
01:56:27,320 --> 01:56:30,280
Speaker 1: for that. I can't be mad because cats ain't singing

2028
01:56:30,320 --> 01:56:31,960
Speaker 1: the way they were singing when I was coming up.

2029
01:56:32,040 --> 01:56:34,360
Speaker 1: You know, I grew up on fucking boys man in

2030
01:56:34,520 --> 01:56:38,560
Speaker 1: jeto see. And you also sunk in church a little bit,

2031
01:56:38,640 --> 01:56:42,840
Speaker 1: a little bit like church, like church. No disrespected church,

2032
01:56:42,880 --> 01:56:46,520
Speaker 1: no respected religion in Christian Christianity would have a m

2033
01:56:47,560 --> 01:56:49,720
Speaker 1: I went to church with my grandmother because I had

2034
01:56:49,760 --> 01:56:51,440
Speaker 1: to go to church with my grandmother because she was

2035
01:56:51,480 --> 01:56:55,200
Speaker 1: not accepting the kids not being in church on Sunday.

2036
01:56:56,120 --> 01:56:59,760
Speaker 1: I am a spiritual person. I believe in God. I

2037
01:57:00,040 --> 01:57:04,960
Speaker 1: don't so much lock into commercial religion, not really, you

2038
01:57:05,000 --> 01:57:07,040
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I know that God exists. I

2039
01:57:07,160 --> 01:57:09,320
Speaker 1: know that there's a power higher than myself. I know

2040
01:57:09,480 --> 01:57:11,440
Speaker 1: that I felt a hand on my back though my

2041
01:57:11,760 --> 01:57:14,040
Speaker 1: entire life. You know what I'm saying, so many different

2042
01:57:14,080 --> 01:57:15,760
Speaker 1: situations where I was supposed to be sucked up and

2043
01:57:15,800 --> 01:57:18,880
Speaker 1: I wasn't because of his hand on my back. Right,

2044
01:57:19,160 --> 01:57:21,880
Speaker 1: So I know that that exists. The fine print of

2045
01:57:21,960 --> 01:57:24,200
Speaker 1: it is where it is where it gets questionable to me,

2046
01:57:24,320 --> 01:57:27,240
Speaker 1: because I know that the nature of man, you know

2047
01:57:27,280 --> 01:57:30,200
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, and and and man is about control,

2048
01:57:30,400 --> 01:57:32,680
Speaker 1: is about power. And if I can say something to

2049
01:57:32,760 --> 01:57:36,520
Speaker 1: you that's gonna make you let me control you, I'm

2050
01:57:36,560 --> 01:57:39,520
Speaker 1: gonna say that as the human being. You know what

2051
01:57:39,560 --> 01:57:41,200
Speaker 1: I mean. So, so that's so that's what makes me

2052
01:57:41,320 --> 01:57:49,280
Speaker 1: go spirituality, God, Sure, Christianity, UH, Catholicism. All of these

2053
01:57:50,000 --> 01:57:54,000
Speaker 1: these commercial choices, all of these, all of these businesses. Ye,

2054
01:57:55,440 --> 01:57:57,200
Speaker 1: I'm in, but I'm not in, you know what I mean.

2055
01:57:57,480 --> 01:58:00,240
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna never show on what nobody believes. You

2056
01:58:00,280 --> 01:58:01,480
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. At the at the end of that,

2057
01:58:01,520 --> 01:58:03,800
Speaker 1: if it's if it's making you smile, rock by all

2058
01:58:03,920 --> 01:58:06,280
Speaker 1: means rock, and who am I to take that from you?

2059
01:58:07,160 --> 01:58:10,360
Speaker 1: But at the same time, I'm not going to sit

2060
01:58:10,440 --> 01:58:14,320
Speaker 1: up and feel like my destiny, vert uh past, this

2061
01:58:14,520 --> 01:58:18,080
Speaker 1: life is determined on whether or not I apply to

2062
01:58:18,160 --> 01:58:20,720
Speaker 1: your fucking program, you know what I mean? Like it

2063
01:58:20,800 --> 01:58:23,360
Speaker 1: ain't it ain't that for me. I'll talk to guy personally.

2064
01:58:23,480 --> 01:58:26,120
Speaker 1: I'll sit by myself and talk to God. I don't

2065
01:58:26,160 --> 01:58:28,920
Speaker 1: need to go to your building every Sunday and put

2066
01:58:29,000 --> 01:58:31,280
Speaker 1: on my Sunday best and watch the women in the

2067
01:58:31,320 --> 01:58:33,520
Speaker 1: hats talk crazy about me when I walk away, Like,

2068
01:58:33,600 --> 01:58:35,280
Speaker 1: I don't have to do that. I don't have to

2069
01:58:35,320 --> 01:58:36,840
Speaker 1: give you ten percent of what the hell I what

2070
01:58:36,960 --> 01:58:39,720
Speaker 1: the hell I worked hard for to prove that I

2071
01:58:39,840 --> 01:58:43,320
Speaker 1: believe in a higher power. That's not that's not necessary.

2072
01:58:43,760 --> 01:58:46,120
Speaker 1: As parts of the Bible that will tell you churches

2073
01:58:46,120 --> 01:58:48,160
Speaker 1: two or three four two three, two or three and

2074
01:58:48,680 --> 01:58:51,840
Speaker 1: joined in my presence. That's church. Church could be your money.

2075
01:58:51,880 --> 01:58:53,960
Speaker 1: Gotta go over there. Yeah, I do all that. I

2076
01:58:54,000 --> 01:58:56,480
Speaker 1: ain't gotta sit back and feel judged by y'all because

2077
01:58:56,480 --> 01:58:58,760
Speaker 1: I ain't been here in months. You know what I'm saying.

2078
01:58:58,760 --> 01:59:06,480
Speaker 1: It's like you see Neo in here praise God whenever

2079
01:59:06,520 --> 01:59:09,440
Speaker 1: the last time we saw him praise God. I'm not.

2080
01:59:09,520 --> 01:59:11,200
Speaker 1: I don't got to sit through that. I ain't got

2081
01:59:11,240 --> 01:59:12,760
Speaker 1: to deal with all that. You know what I'm saying,

2082
01:59:13,440 --> 01:59:15,160
Speaker 1: Me and my wife, my kids will sit down and

2083
01:59:15,200 --> 01:59:17,280
Speaker 1: pray and then have a conversation about the higher power.

2084
01:59:17,320 --> 01:59:19,720
Speaker 1: And that's the church. Were good good, you know what

2085
01:59:19,720 --> 01:59:21,960
Speaker 1: I'm saying. That's me go back to your training. Thought

2086
01:59:22,000 --> 01:59:23,840
Speaker 1: though you were talking about, Oh yeah, I'm drunk, so

2087
01:59:23,880 --> 01:59:25,520
Speaker 1: I'm under tangent. What was I talking? You were talking

2088
01:59:25,520 --> 01:59:27,600
Speaker 1: about like that. You grew up on Jody C Boys

2089
01:59:27,680 --> 01:59:31,600
Speaker 1: de Man, right, I grew up on R and B Cats.

2090
01:59:32,240 --> 01:59:33,960
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Jody C was in leather

2091
01:59:34,360 --> 01:59:36,640
Speaker 1: in the desert talking about I'll cry for you and

2092
01:59:36,720 --> 01:59:39,400
Speaker 1: then got on stage at the MTVV the Music Awards

2093
01:59:39,440 --> 01:59:43,600
Speaker 1: and masks and machete's like this Thuggist ship. Ever, Stuggists

2094
01:59:43,680 --> 01:59:46,040
Speaker 1: R and B Ever, however, and Niggas was like, do

2095
01:59:46,160 --> 01:59:48,960
Speaker 1: you believe in love and the power that it gives? Right?

2096
01:59:49,320 --> 01:59:51,200
Speaker 1: I grew up on that. I didn't grow up on

2097
01:59:51,960 --> 01:59:54,120
Speaker 1: what some of the newer generation is coming up on it.

2098
01:59:54,400 --> 01:59:56,440
Speaker 1: So I can't fault them for the way that they

2099
01:59:56,520 --> 01:59:59,320
Speaker 1: do what they do because they're following the ship that

2100
01:59:59,440 --> 02:00:02,480
Speaker 1: inspired in them, you know what I mean. Like people

2101
02:00:02,480 --> 02:00:03,720
Speaker 1: are like, how do you feel about what do you

2102
02:00:03,760 --> 02:00:05,800
Speaker 1: feel about the state of R and B right now?

2103
02:00:06,080 --> 02:00:08,440
Speaker 1: And I think back to like my uncle's and how

2104
02:00:08,520 --> 02:00:10,280
Speaker 1: my uncle's used to run up on me and my friends,

2105
02:00:10,320 --> 02:00:13,560
Speaker 1: Like that ain't real music now, listen is bullshit? You

2106
02:00:13,760 --> 02:00:16,360
Speaker 1: just listen to listen to that, And it's like I've

2107
02:00:16,480 --> 02:00:19,600
Speaker 1: become my uncle's to my son's, you know what I mean.

2108
02:00:19,800 --> 02:00:23,920
Speaker 1: Like I'm listening to what they listening to like a

2109
02:00:24,120 --> 02:00:26,760
Speaker 1: ship what they are right now? My old my older

2110
02:00:26,840 --> 02:00:29,200
Speaker 1: son is nine. He's weird. So it's some other some

2111
02:00:29,280 --> 02:00:32,720
Speaker 1: other ship. But it's not music to me. It's like, Okay,

2112
02:00:32,760 --> 02:00:35,040
Speaker 1: so there's there's some game and I'm about to give

2113
02:00:35,040 --> 02:00:37,320
Speaker 1: your props. You should send me a check. Uh, there's

2114
02:00:37,360 --> 02:00:41,280
Speaker 1: this game called Friday Night Funking, right it's a it's

2115
02:00:41,280 --> 02:00:45,440
Speaker 1: a video game. But in the video game, the characters

2116
02:00:45,520 --> 02:00:50,960
Speaker 1: are quote unquote battle rapping against each other. But it's

2117
02:00:51,000 --> 02:00:54,560
Speaker 1: no lyrics. It ain't even words. It's just sounds and

2118
02:00:54,680 --> 02:01:01,840
Speaker 1: beeps and ship. Yeah. And my son's loves this ship

2119
02:01:02,520 --> 02:01:04,440
Speaker 1: to where they feel like this is a battle rap

2120
02:01:04,480 --> 02:01:10,280
Speaker 1: and I'm like, son, just so lost, oh so lost,

2121
02:01:10,800 --> 02:01:13,120
Speaker 1: but they love this ship and I'm like, that is

2122
02:01:13,240 --> 02:01:15,720
Speaker 1: not battle rap. What are you doing? What are you

2123
02:01:16,200 --> 02:01:18,800
Speaker 1: And and instantly I'm like, oh ship, I'm My uncle's

2124
02:01:19,280 --> 02:01:21,400
Speaker 1: sitting listening to me and my friends listen to what

2125
02:01:21,480 --> 02:01:25,480
Speaker 1: we listened to, like Nigga, that ain't music, earth fire

2126
02:01:26,600 --> 02:01:29,800
Speaker 1: if it's legit just noises. That's not being uncle, mind

2127
02:01:29,880 --> 02:01:32,720
Speaker 1: you mind you to my uncle's What I was listening

2128
02:01:32,760 --> 02:01:36,680
Speaker 1: to at the time was just just I don't know, man,

2129
02:01:36,800 --> 02:01:39,920
Speaker 1: I think of a Niggai group on Earth win and

2130
02:01:39,960 --> 02:01:43,520
Speaker 1: fire and listening to dos effects, no no facts. That's yeah,

2131
02:01:43,560 --> 02:01:45,360
Speaker 1: that makes sense, you feel me so so so it's

2132
02:01:45,440 --> 02:01:48,640
Speaker 1: it's the same thing. It's secular. All this ship happens

2133
02:01:49,040 --> 02:01:51,280
Speaker 1: in cycles. I'm looking at my son's like, yo, that

2134
02:01:51,360 --> 02:01:53,800
Speaker 1: ain't music, And instantly my uncle's popping in the back

2135
02:01:53,840 --> 02:01:55,920
Speaker 1: of my head, like, Yo, that ain't music, and I'm like, fuck,

2136
02:01:56,360 --> 02:01:59,720
Speaker 1: it's music to him. It's music to him, And what

2137
02:01:59,840 --> 02:02:02,400
Speaker 1: the funk he decided to do with music behind? This

2138
02:02:02,960 --> 02:02:05,960
Speaker 1: is going to come from this inspiration and I can't.

2139
02:02:06,040 --> 02:02:09,120
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't shoot on him for that. I

2140
02:02:09,240 --> 02:02:12,080
Speaker 1: can't talk. I can't talk bad. I can't talk down

2141
02:02:12,200 --> 02:02:14,680
Speaker 1: for him for that because that's my uncle's talking down

2142
02:02:14,760 --> 02:02:16,800
Speaker 1: for me, down to me for listening to the docs

2143
02:02:16,840 --> 02:02:19,680
Speaker 1: effects talking the far side of ship, like when he

2144
02:02:20,160 --> 02:02:21,560
Speaker 1: was on Earth, Wind and Fire and all of that.

2145
02:02:22,440 --> 02:02:24,960
Speaker 1: So I can't. I can't fault him for it. But

2146
02:02:25,040 --> 02:02:27,680
Speaker 1: at the same time, I can also go, you know what, Okay,

2147
02:02:27,680 --> 02:02:31,360
Speaker 1: all right, that's music, but this is music too, the

2148
02:02:31,440 --> 02:02:35,080
Speaker 1: way your mom and your aunt put on the exactly exactly.

2149
02:02:35,200 --> 02:02:37,720
Speaker 1: So that's that's the that's the place I'm taking right now.

2150
02:02:38,000 --> 02:02:40,200
Speaker 1: But just to hold just to sit back and realize

2151
02:02:40,760 --> 02:02:43,840
Speaker 1: that this ship is secular. Like like, so, I got

2152
02:02:43,920 --> 02:02:48,360
Speaker 1: five kids. My oldest is twelve, my girls twelve, my

2153
02:02:48,520 --> 02:02:53,080
Speaker 1: youngest is one, and I find myself saying things to

2154
02:02:53,160 --> 02:02:56,320
Speaker 1: my kids that my mama said said to me, like

2155
02:02:56,480 --> 02:02:58,840
Speaker 1: the second I said it's like, yo, I remember this

2156
02:02:59,480 --> 02:03:02,720
Speaker 1: to the point we're like, I gotta call my mom Like, yo, yo,

2157
02:03:02,800 --> 02:03:07,960
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I apologize because you was literally just really

2158
02:03:08,040 --> 02:03:10,920
Speaker 1: just trying to figure it out, like just trying to

2159
02:03:11,000 --> 02:03:13,320
Speaker 1: make it make sense as you went alone, Like you

2160
02:03:13,520 --> 02:03:15,840
Speaker 1: was really on that because I'm in this ship, like, oh,

2161
02:03:16,480 --> 02:03:19,080
Speaker 1: how do I in this climate make sure that my

2162
02:03:19,240 --> 02:03:22,960
Speaker 1: young prince understands that he's a young prince? You feel me?

2163
02:03:24,160 --> 02:03:27,760
Speaker 1: How do I do that right now when when he's

2164
02:03:27,760 --> 02:03:30,080
Speaker 1: being bombarded with everything else? Like how do I do that?

2165
02:03:30,240 --> 02:03:32,280
Speaker 1: And so so. Yeah, I literally had to call my

2166
02:03:32,360 --> 02:03:37,920
Speaker 1: mom ast Yo. I appreciate the way that you made

2167
02:03:37,960 --> 02:03:40,640
Speaker 1: it make sense, even if it barely made sense to

2168
02:03:40,720 --> 02:03:42,480
Speaker 1: you in the moment, you made it make sense to me.

2169
02:03:42,560 --> 02:03:44,680
Speaker 1: And I appreciate that because I'm going through it right

2170
02:03:44,720 --> 02:03:50,680
Speaker 1: now and that ship is hard. It's hard. I'm sorry,

2171
02:03:50,760 --> 02:03:58,200
Speaker 1: I'm drunk. You're living living at different times. Yo. Bob's

2172
02:03:58,240 --> 02:04:02,320
Speaker 1: cart telling a spice flipped your miss independent. Yeah, did

2173
02:04:02,400 --> 02:04:06,080
Speaker 1: you clear it? I didn't not clear it, but the

2174
02:04:06,200 --> 02:04:10,280
Speaker 1: star the streets cleared it right away, which which made

2175
02:04:10,320 --> 02:04:12,600
Speaker 1: it virtually impossible for me to not clear it even

2176
02:04:12,640 --> 02:04:14,360
Speaker 1: if I was thinking about not clearing it, which, by

2177
02:04:14,400 --> 02:04:17,200
Speaker 1: the way, I was never thinking about not clearing it.

2178
02:04:18,480 --> 02:04:22,640
Speaker 1: I'm saying, first and foremost, before the song was presented

2179
02:04:22,680 --> 02:04:25,600
Speaker 1: to me, the concept of vibes Cartel and who he

2180
02:04:25,840 --> 02:04:28,880
Speaker 1: was was presented to me like this is that dude?

2181
02:04:29,800 --> 02:04:32,600
Speaker 1: Oh and by the way, he did this with your song.

2182
02:04:32,840 --> 02:04:34,760
Speaker 1: It was presented to me like that. So I'm like, so,

2183
02:04:35,400 --> 02:04:38,320
Speaker 1: what are we talking about right now? Of course it's fine.

2184
02:04:39,680 --> 02:04:41,960
Speaker 1: Why would I have a problem with this? To this day,

2185
02:04:42,240 --> 02:04:44,760
Speaker 1: I can't, like you know, I can't be over there

2186
02:04:45,120 --> 02:04:49,080
Speaker 1: and perform misindependent without showing, without giving props to what

2187
02:04:49,240 --> 02:04:53,960
Speaker 1: the funk he did? You know what I'm saying? Yeah, man,

2188
02:04:54,080 --> 02:04:57,280
Speaker 1: like you created a whole another vibe and essence off

2189
02:04:57,320 --> 02:04:59,640
Speaker 1: of this ship that I was trying to do. I

2190
02:04:59,760 --> 02:05:04,040
Speaker 1: got give you love for that. Yeah. Like, uh, I

2191
02:05:04,160 --> 02:05:06,320
Speaker 1: think his name is a Monti White, Mony White. He

2192
02:05:06,440 --> 02:05:11,720
Speaker 1: did my song over nothing on boy Um and I

2193
02:05:11,840 --> 02:05:14,280
Speaker 1: co signed it to you. You gotta have to bro,

2194
02:05:14,880 --> 02:05:17,640
Speaker 1: you gotta realize it's a whole. It's it's generations coming

2195
02:05:17,760 --> 02:05:21,720
Speaker 1: behind you, like generations on generations on generations, and if

2196
02:05:21,760 --> 02:05:23,720
Speaker 1: you decide to not let nobody funk with what you

2197
02:05:23,800 --> 02:05:25,440
Speaker 1: did because it's what you did, and you can have

2198
02:05:25,520 --> 02:05:28,600
Speaker 1: this pride about it. Them generations don't get it. Them

2199
02:05:28,720 --> 02:05:30,680
Speaker 1: generations don't get to experience it. They don't get to

2200
02:05:30,840 --> 02:05:32,720
Speaker 1: enjoy it. They don't get to they don't get to

2201
02:05:32,760 --> 02:05:35,280
Speaker 1: know who Noriega was, you know what. But but but

2202
02:05:35,600 --> 02:05:38,840
Speaker 1: I don't always co sign everything. I mean, of course

2203
02:05:38,840 --> 02:05:40,600
Speaker 1: I can't lie to you. I can't look at you're

2204
02:05:40,600 --> 02:05:44,080
Speaker 1: looking for. I can't because there's been a certain records

2205
02:05:44,120 --> 02:05:46,960
Speaker 1: that sample like there's certain people that be like, yo,

2206
02:05:47,040 --> 02:05:49,360
Speaker 1: this is this is no real or whatever, and they're

2207
02:05:49,400 --> 02:05:52,320
Speaker 1: trying to like like immulate me, and I don't like it,

2208
02:05:54,680 --> 02:05:59,000
Speaker 1: but they shouldn't that. Why would you okay some ship

2209
02:05:59,120 --> 02:06:01,320
Speaker 1: that that's a whacker version of what you did? Why

2210
02:06:07,000 --> 02:06:10,960
Speaker 1: I wouldn't do if certain records I do love um

2211
02:06:11,520 --> 02:06:15,320
Speaker 1: Um Flow right of the artists she did, super dog Over,

2212
02:06:15,720 --> 02:06:20,680
Speaker 1: I approved it, um Amani White Billy Irish, I approved it.

2213
02:06:21,280 --> 02:06:25,240
Speaker 1: But let us say everything does that like I hate

2214
02:06:25,280 --> 02:06:28,160
Speaker 1: when someone touches bad from TV. From TV is my

2215
02:06:28,280 --> 02:06:32,360
Speaker 1: record with Big Pun. Pun will never be able to

2216
02:06:32,480 --> 02:06:35,280
Speaker 1: come and redo this again. So why the fund would

2217
02:06:35,280 --> 02:06:36,880
Speaker 1: you do it? Yeah? You know what I'm saying, So

2218
02:06:37,000 --> 02:06:39,640
Speaker 1: don't touch So I won't. I won't if anything from

2219
02:06:39,720 --> 02:06:42,640
Speaker 1: bad from TV, I won't clear if Beyonce sample man

2220
02:06:42,720 --> 02:06:54,960
Speaker 1: from TV is good he got do you know right now,

2221
02:06:58,000 --> 02:07:01,320
Speaker 1: y'all such and such from whatever? Not but that But

2222
02:07:01,440 --> 02:07:03,480
Speaker 1: that's also what I like though. I like when a

2223
02:07:03,600 --> 02:07:06,840
Speaker 1: person take the record and make it their own. When

2224
02:07:06,880 --> 02:07:09,680
Speaker 1: they take it and try to remake minds, that's what

2225
02:07:09,880 --> 02:07:12,600
Speaker 1: makes me angry. Same ships like, So, I rather you

2226
02:07:12,760 --> 02:07:15,280
Speaker 1: take it and you don't reproduce it like like like

2227
02:07:15,480 --> 02:07:17,840
Speaker 1: remix it or complimented like make something else. No, So

2228
02:07:17,960 --> 02:07:19,680
Speaker 1: it's it's the plight of it's the plight of a

2229
02:07:19,840 --> 02:07:23,600
Speaker 1: a songwriter that is also an artist, which you know,

2230
02:07:23,800 --> 02:07:26,120
Speaker 1: back day every hip hop artist was. If you was

2231
02:07:26,160 --> 02:07:29,160
Speaker 1: writing your own lyrics, you're a songwriter and an artist, right.

2232
02:07:29,560 --> 02:07:31,760
Speaker 1: So somebody come along and want to sample something that

2233
02:07:31,880 --> 02:07:34,160
Speaker 1: you did. If you're not gonna take it and take

2234
02:07:34,200 --> 02:07:37,560
Speaker 1: if you're not gonna bring it to another level, leave

2235
02:07:37,560 --> 02:07:39,720
Speaker 1: it the funk alone, Because why would I ever want

2236
02:07:39,760 --> 02:07:41,640
Speaker 1: the last memory of my ship to be the whack

2237
02:07:41,680 --> 02:07:43,880
Speaker 1: ship that you created? Why would I ever want that

2238
02:07:43,960 --> 02:07:46,040
Speaker 1: to be? Nah? I wanted to when they think of

2239
02:07:46,080 --> 02:07:47,200
Speaker 1: my ship, I don't want them to think of the

2240
02:07:47,720 --> 02:07:50,000
Speaker 1: greatness that I brought to it. Now, if you're gonna

2241
02:07:50,040 --> 02:07:53,600
Speaker 1: add to that greatness, yeah, rock out ba all means,

2242
02:07:54,000 --> 02:07:56,120
Speaker 1: but you ain't for to bring my ship down. It

2243
02:07:56,200 --> 02:07:58,000
Speaker 1: ain't gonna lead people back to the rand. It's like,

2244
02:07:58,120 --> 02:07:59,400
Speaker 1: you know, I used to funk with this song and

2245
02:07:59,440 --> 02:08:01,080
Speaker 1: it's such as sample and I was like, fun that

2246
02:08:01,160 --> 02:08:10,520
Speaker 1: song that happened. That's true, that's real. I'm like real ship.

2247
02:08:13,120 --> 02:08:16,560
Speaker 1: So as a songwriter, I always respect the artists that's

2248
02:08:16,600 --> 02:08:19,080
Speaker 1: gonna take this ship and make it their's Beyonce. Like,

2249
02:08:19,160 --> 02:08:22,520
Speaker 1: if you listen to my demo of Irreplaceable and listen

2250
02:08:22,600 --> 02:08:26,000
Speaker 1: to Beyonce is Irreplaceable, you hear slight differences, you'll hear

2251
02:08:26,000 --> 02:08:29,080
Speaker 1: the nuances that make that ship a Beyonce record. Right,

2252
02:08:29,560 --> 02:08:31,800
Speaker 1: she didn't follow what I did to the fucking t

2253
02:08:32,720 --> 02:08:35,840
Speaker 1: because for all that, nigga, let me keep it and

2254
02:08:35,920 --> 02:08:38,280
Speaker 1: let me just do it myself. So I always have,

2255
02:08:38,360 --> 02:08:40,560
Speaker 1: I always have. I've always had the utmost respect for

2256
02:08:40,560 --> 02:08:42,520
Speaker 1: the artist is gonna take it and make it. There's

2257
02:08:43,040 --> 02:08:45,280
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, it's don't don't don't

2258
02:08:46,280 --> 02:08:48,040
Speaker 1: don't do it just for the fucking take of doing it,

2259
02:08:48,720 --> 02:08:50,840
Speaker 1: because you're working with my legacy. Like that. You know

2260
02:08:50,880 --> 02:08:53,080
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like the last time somebody heard my

2261
02:08:53,120 --> 02:08:55,280
Speaker 1: ship was on some white ass remix. That's something did

2262
02:08:55,360 --> 02:08:57,800
Speaker 1: because he just felt felt like it. No, I'm not.

2263
02:08:58,000 --> 02:09:01,200
Speaker 1: I'm not rocking with Da Nola's time you heard a

2264
02:09:01,200 --> 02:09:05,040
Speaker 1: remix of my ship was something that Beyonce touched. Mie

2265
02:09:05,080 --> 02:09:09,400
Speaker 1: Floss Life Floss. Yeah, you know what I mean. Difference.

2266
02:09:09,640 --> 02:09:17,240
Speaker 1: How about Prince You ever met Prince? Yes? Yes, yes, Lesten.

2267
02:09:18,840 --> 02:09:20,800
Speaker 1: I live on this planet, in this and in this

2268
02:09:21,000 --> 02:09:24,120
Speaker 1: realm of reality with everybody else. Prince could fly. I

2269
02:09:24,120 --> 02:09:27,160
Speaker 1: don't get with nobody. Everyone says this motherfucker could deny,

2270
02:09:27,320 --> 02:09:34,240
Speaker 1: could defy gravity anyone. Everyone said so. It's right after

2271
02:09:35,160 --> 02:09:37,720
Speaker 1: Year and a Gentleman, which was my biggest album ever,

2272
02:09:38,000 --> 02:09:41,480
Speaker 1: right next album Leabre Scale. I go into the label,

2273
02:09:41,520 --> 02:09:43,120
Speaker 1: I tell them, yo, I want to do like a

2274
02:09:43,240 --> 02:09:46,240
Speaker 1: thirty minute like mini movie and let the album be

2275
02:09:46,360 --> 02:09:48,360
Speaker 1: the soundtrack to the movie. And they're like, Yo, that's

2276
02:09:48,400 --> 02:09:52,080
Speaker 1: a dope idea, let's do it. Mind you this. I'm

2277
02:09:52,120 --> 02:09:54,880
Speaker 1: fresh off the heels of Red Tails. I did red

2278
02:09:54,920 --> 02:09:57,960
Speaker 1: Sales with with George Lucas Life Flex, and then I

2279
02:09:58,080 --> 02:10:05,880
Speaker 1: did uh Battles with George Lucas George star Wars. George

2280
02:10:05,960 --> 02:10:08,640
Speaker 1: Lucas said, I want to pick up the Red Tails,

2281
02:10:08,720 --> 02:10:13,960
Speaker 1: the Tuskegee Airman, the Black, the Black Fleet of fighters

2282
02:10:14,160 --> 02:10:17,080
Speaker 1: in the Air Force. So he did Red Tails and

2283
02:10:17,120 --> 02:10:18,360
Speaker 1: then let me be a part of that, and that

2284
02:10:18,440 --> 02:10:21,280
Speaker 1: she was amazing. She was beautiful. So I'm fresh off

2285
02:10:21,320 --> 02:10:23,600
Speaker 1: the hills of that, and I come into the label excited, like, Yo,

2286
02:10:23,840 --> 02:10:25,560
Speaker 1: I'm off this movie ship. I want to do some

2287
02:10:25,640 --> 02:10:27,200
Speaker 1: movie ship. I want to do like a thirty minute

2288
02:10:27,200 --> 02:10:29,080
Speaker 1: movie and let the album beet the soundtrack. This is

2289
02:10:29,160 --> 02:10:32,600
Speaker 1: what lever Scale was supposed to be. What I didn't

2290
02:10:32,640 --> 02:10:36,480
Speaker 1: realize that in the realm of screen and script writing,

2291
02:10:37,120 --> 02:10:41,280
Speaker 1: a page equates to a minute, right, so one page

2292
02:10:41,360 --> 02:10:43,240
Speaker 1: is one minute. I told him I want to do

2293
02:10:43,360 --> 02:10:46,080
Speaker 1: like a thirty minute mini movie. I brought them a

2294
02:10:46,080 --> 02:10:49,320
Speaker 1: script with a hundred forty five pages in it. It

2295
02:10:49,440 --> 02:10:51,640
Speaker 1: was like, that's that's that's not a mini movie to

2296
02:10:51,720 --> 02:10:54,120
Speaker 1: teach your film what what the funk are you doing?

2297
02:10:54,480 --> 02:10:56,520
Speaker 1: So my mind, I didn't know. I didn't know this.

2298
02:10:57,120 --> 02:10:59,000
Speaker 1: So I learned that through that process. Al right, cool.

2299
02:10:59,040 --> 02:11:00,440
Speaker 1: So I had to take this hun of forty five

2300
02:11:00,440 --> 02:11:02,280
Speaker 1: pages and busted down the thirty. By the time I

2301
02:11:02,400 --> 02:11:04,800
Speaker 1: figured out how to do that, the clock is ticking.

2302
02:11:04,840 --> 02:11:06,800
Speaker 1: We gotta get this ship out. We don't have time

2303
02:11:06,880 --> 02:11:10,200
Speaker 1: to cast and shoot a whole fucking movie for thirty minutes.

2304
02:11:10,520 --> 02:11:15,080
Speaker 1: So all right, let's do Let's do six long form videos. Right.

2305
02:11:15,360 --> 02:11:18,560
Speaker 1: So you got you got Champagne Life, you got uh,

2306
02:11:18,720 --> 02:11:22,200
Speaker 1: you got beautiful Monster, you got one in a million.

2307
02:11:23,120 --> 02:11:25,000
Speaker 1: One are the million ins with it to be continued.

2308
02:11:25,280 --> 02:11:27,920
Speaker 1: That never continues because Devin jam was like, Nigga, we

2309
02:11:27,960 --> 02:11:29,440
Speaker 1: don't give you no more money for this ship, Like

2310
02:11:29,560 --> 02:11:32,400
Speaker 1: this is nuts because mind you, I'm literally just do

2311
02:11:32,680 --> 02:11:35,360
Speaker 1: I'm figuring it out as I go along, right, and

2312
02:11:35,400 --> 02:11:37,080
Speaker 1: they rock you with me. They let me do it

2313
02:11:37,160 --> 02:11:40,600
Speaker 1: because like you're the Genleman was like, I ain't get

2314
02:11:40,600 --> 02:11:44,480
Speaker 1: what you wanna do, and and I'm just really figuring

2315
02:11:44,520 --> 02:11:47,240
Speaker 1: the ship out as I go. So the album didn't

2316
02:11:47,240 --> 02:11:49,240
Speaker 1: perform well, you know, and the singles did I but

2317
02:11:49,280 --> 02:11:51,200
Speaker 1: the album didn't perform when I was fucked up about it.

2318
02:11:52,320 --> 02:11:56,200
Speaker 1: That same year, we get invited to Prince's Grammy party.

2319
02:11:56,640 --> 02:11:58,560
Speaker 1: Prince used to throw a party at his house for

2320
02:11:58,640 --> 02:12:01,760
Speaker 1: the Grammys. Every everything purple. There was a lot of

2321
02:12:01,840 --> 02:12:06,480
Speaker 1: purple there was an I'll say there was an overabundance

2322
02:12:06,920 --> 02:12:09,600
Speaker 1: of purple, and not everything was purple. But if it

2323
02:12:09,680 --> 02:12:11,400
Speaker 1: was ten ships in the room, not at them ships

2324
02:12:11,480 --> 02:12:15,360
Speaker 1: was purple. Anyway, So I go to we go to

2325
02:12:15,440 --> 02:12:18,520
Speaker 1: the party. We're in the pool house, right because it's paid,

2326
02:12:18,760 --> 02:12:21,040
Speaker 1: it's it's the spot, and in this pool house and

2327
02:12:21,080 --> 02:12:24,160
Speaker 1: there's like a plex glass ship or we're literally standing

2328
02:12:24,200 --> 02:12:26,040
Speaker 1: on top of the swimming pool. And I just think

2329
02:12:26,080 --> 02:12:27,840
Speaker 1: this is the coolest ship ever because I'm a little

2330
02:12:27,880 --> 02:12:30,560
Speaker 1: green at this point. But anyway, Prince is on the

2331
02:12:30,680 --> 02:12:34,280
Speaker 1: stage with his band rocking out, just just all some

2332
02:12:34,480 --> 02:12:37,120
Speaker 1: freestyle and just rocking out, crooning, just just rocking out

2333
02:12:37,160 --> 02:12:40,560
Speaker 1: and playing his guitar. He sees me, he puts his

2334
02:12:40,640 --> 02:12:43,840
Speaker 1: guitar down and be line straight to me. He gets

2335
02:12:43,960 --> 02:12:46,120
Speaker 1: right up on my ear because because this is how

2336
02:12:46,160 --> 02:12:48,880
Speaker 1: Prince speaks to you. If you've ever talked, if you've

2337
02:12:48,880 --> 02:12:51,040
Speaker 1: ever spoken to Prince, you know this. He'll get real

2338
02:12:51,160 --> 02:12:53,440
Speaker 1: close so that he don't gotta talk real loud. He

2339
02:12:53,520 --> 02:12:55,760
Speaker 1: got right up on my air and he said Leebra

2340
02:12:55,800 --> 02:12:58,080
Speaker 1: Scale was a good album and don't let anybody tell

2341
02:12:58,120 --> 02:13:01,920
Speaker 1: you different, and walked away and say ship to me

2342
02:13:01,960 --> 02:13:03,480
Speaker 1: for the rest of the night. That's all they say

2343
02:13:03,520 --> 02:13:08,760
Speaker 1: to me. The whole night. I was fucked up about

2344
02:13:08,840 --> 02:13:10,800
Speaker 1: Leabra Scale, like I really wanted it to be really

2345
02:13:10,880 --> 02:13:13,720
Speaker 1: good and it wasn't good, and it was it was

2346
02:13:13,800 --> 02:13:16,800
Speaker 1: performing poorly the whole nine and you know, the label

2347
02:13:16,880 --> 02:13:19,080
Speaker 1: is trying to be nice about ship, but the ship

2348
02:13:19,200 --> 02:13:22,320
Speaker 1: is not working. He walked up to me and was like, yo,

2349
02:13:22,600 --> 02:13:25,120
Speaker 1: Libra Scale is a good album, and don't let anybody

2350
02:13:25,200 --> 02:13:27,280
Speaker 1: tell you different. I was like, nig we could go

2351
02:13:27,400 --> 02:13:29,960
Speaker 1: double wood. I don't give a fuck. Prince said that

2352
02:13:30,080 --> 02:13:38,960
Speaker 1: this is a good album straight princess, so I wouldn't.

2353
02:13:39,720 --> 02:13:42,400
Speaker 1: That was a great moment. That's that's that's one print story.

2354
02:13:43,200 --> 02:13:45,840
Speaker 1: I really wasn't trying to get you to take another shot.

2355
02:13:46,240 --> 02:13:47,920
Speaker 1: We gotta take a shot to that print story. We

2356
02:13:48,000 --> 02:13:50,600
Speaker 1: have to take the shot. Print story. I'm sorry, I'm

2357
02:13:50,640 --> 02:13:55,200
Speaker 1: sorry you disrespect for this because you know what, Oh,

2358
02:13:58,480 --> 02:14:01,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take and then went the whole was like,

2359
02:14:04,120 --> 02:14:06,760
Speaker 1: but now self explanatory, I'm gonna take a piss, guys,

2360
02:14:06,800 --> 02:14:12,760
Speaker 1: I'll be back. That's the most humbling, disrespectful statement that

2361
02:14:15,080 --> 02:14:18,600
Speaker 1: it's humble because it's like, yeah, I shouldn't know but

2362
02:14:18,960 --> 02:14:24,000
Speaker 1: it's disrespectful because it's like straight up, straight up and

2363
02:14:24,080 --> 02:14:27,920
Speaker 1: that was the intend um did I hit it on?

2364
02:14:28,160 --> 02:14:35,200
Speaker 1: Pretty much? Okay? So I called. I called the album

2365
02:14:35,480 --> 02:14:39,160
Speaker 1: for a couple of reasons. As as I said earlier

2366
02:14:39,360 --> 02:14:42,760
Speaker 1: in this in this whole situation, I've always prided myself

2367
02:14:42,920 --> 02:14:47,320
Speaker 1: on my my products speaking for itself. I don't got

2368
02:14:47,400 --> 02:14:49,040
Speaker 1: to sit here and sell you on what the funk

2369
02:14:49,120 --> 02:14:51,200
Speaker 1: I do. I don't got to sit him brag to

2370
02:14:51,280 --> 02:14:55,320
Speaker 1: you about what I've done. I can push play and

2371
02:14:56,240 --> 02:14:59,080
Speaker 1: that is going to be enough for you to understand

2372
02:14:59,160 --> 02:15:00,960
Speaker 1: who I am, what I am, how I am, how

2373
02:15:01,040 --> 02:15:04,240
Speaker 1: I rocked right. So that and then on top of that,

2374
02:15:04,800 --> 02:15:08,000
Speaker 1: I think it's been it's been sixteen, it's been almost

2375
02:15:08,040 --> 02:15:11,000
Speaker 1: twenty years at this point. Do you really need like

2376
02:15:11,760 --> 02:15:15,280
Speaker 1: a full on explanation to a neo album at this

2377
02:15:15,560 --> 02:15:17,680
Speaker 1: point in the game, you know what I'm saying. So

2378
02:15:18,680 --> 02:15:21,840
Speaker 1: it's like, neo music is music to live life too,

2379
02:15:22,040 --> 02:15:27,440
Speaker 1: write be it be it the nigga you just broke

2380
02:15:27,520 --> 02:15:29,680
Speaker 1: up with, or the chicken just broke up with, or

2381
02:15:29,920 --> 02:15:33,240
Speaker 1: the new love that you just found, or it's Sunday

2382
02:15:33,240 --> 02:15:35,520
Speaker 1: and you just want to clean the crib or it's

2383
02:15:35,560 --> 02:15:37,800
Speaker 1: Saturday and you're gearing up to go out and turn up.

2384
02:15:38,200 --> 02:15:41,120
Speaker 1: There's not an aspect of life that you can name

2385
02:15:41,520 --> 02:15:43,760
Speaker 1: that you can't put a neo song too and allow

2386
02:15:43,880 --> 02:15:48,080
Speaker 1: that song to be the soundtrack to that moment. And

2387
02:15:48,200 --> 02:15:49,800
Speaker 1: that's and that's how I rock, and that's how I've

2388
02:15:49,800 --> 02:15:52,480
Speaker 1: always rocked, and this album is kind of a celebration

2389
02:15:52,560 --> 02:15:58,360
Speaker 1: of that. Straight up. My flexes light blow, my flexes light.

2390
02:15:58,560 --> 02:16:00,920
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna you know, I don't gotta point the

2391
02:16:00,960 --> 02:16:03,760
Speaker 1: diamonds out, but when you see him, goddamn you feel me.

2392
02:16:04,040 --> 02:16:09,280
Speaker 1: That's what I said. I gotta put it out. Any

2393
02:16:09,400 --> 02:16:12,880
Speaker 1: song that you wrote for somebody and gave him and

2394
02:16:12,960 --> 02:16:17,520
Speaker 1: that you regretted that, I was like, damn. This is

2395
02:16:17,560 --> 02:16:20,040
Speaker 1: a question that has been popping up a lot lately,

2396
02:16:20,640 --> 02:16:23,600
Speaker 1: and I can only think of, really and truly one

2397
02:16:23,800 --> 02:16:26,400
Speaker 1: instance where it happened like that. And I don't like

2398
02:16:26,520 --> 02:16:28,520
Speaker 1: talking about it because people like to take ship and

2399
02:16:28,600 --> 02:16:31,400
Speaker 1: turn it into hate. And I'm not hating because I

2400
02:16:31,560 --> 02:16:33,240
Speaker 1: love this nigga. You know what I'm saying. This is

2401
02:16:33,320 --> 02:16:36,040
Speaker 1: my guy shout out to my man Luke James. We

2402
02:16:36,120 --> 02:16:39,199
Speaker 1: did a record together, right, well, mind you, we didn't

2403
02:16:39,240 --> 02:16:41,920
Speaker 1: necessarily do a record together. It was a record that

2404
02:16:42,000 --> 02:16:44,440
Speaker 1: I wrote, and he fused with it, and he was

2405
02:16:44,520 --> 02:16:46,720
Speaker 1: like and he sucked with his people fun with it.

2406
02:16:46,800 --> 02:16:50,280
Speaker 1: It was like, Yo, let's let's cut this on Luke James, right,

2407
02:16:50,520 --> 02:16:52,200
Speaker 1: And I was all for it because Luke James one

2408
02:16:52,240 --> 02:16:55,320
Speaker 1: of the dopest voices right now period. The nigga is dope.

2409
02:16:55,640 --> 02:16:59,240
Speaker 1: So I'm like, yeah, let's do it. So the song

2410
02:16:59,760 --> 02:17:02,640
Speaker 1: was the way that I did. The song was in

2411
02:17:02,720 --> 02:17:07,080
Speaker 1: a key and a pitch higher then Luke James regularly sings.

2412
02:17:07,800 --> 02:17:10,440
Speaker 1: So they took the song and they dropped it down

2413
02:17:10,520 --> 02:17:14,280
Speaker 1: to a key that was comfortable for Luke James. Now,

2414
02:17:14,480 --> 02:17:16,960
Speaker 1: anybody that knows anything about music, when you take a

2415
02:17:17,040 --> 02:17:19,720
Speaker 1: song and you dropped the key, you take a city,

2416
02:17:19,760 --> 02:17:22,000
Speaker 1: you take a little bit of energy from the record,

2417
02:17:22,560 --> 02:17:24,560
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And in the case of this,

2418
02:17:24,800 --> 02:17:27,800
Speaker 1: it was exactly that. It was like what the record

2419
02:17:27,959 --> 02:17:31,320
Speaker 1: was versus what the record became. It just wasn't as good,

2420
02:17:31,760 --> 02:17:34,160
Speaker 1: And I felt away because I'm like, fun man, for

2421
02:17:34,280 --> 02:17:36,200
Speaker 1: all of that, we could have just gotten a lab

2422
02:17:36,240 --> 02:17:39,200
Speaker 1: and did some did something from scratch, you know what

2423
02:17:39,240 --> 02:17:42,160
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Because again, a funk with Luke James's my guy.

2424
02:17:42,520 --> 02:17:44,320
Speaker 1: The name of the joint was was making Love to Me?

2425
02:17:45,160 --> 02:17:48,280
Speaker 1: And if you listen to my demo of it and

2426
02:17:48,360 --> 02:17:50,560
Speaker 1: then you listen to his version of it, you see

2427
02:17:50,600 --> 02:17:52,720
Speaker 1: how many keys they dropped it down, and it just

2428
02:17:53,120 --> 02:17:55,000
Speaker 1: it just didn't make the song work for what it

2429
02:17:55,080 --> 02:17:57,600
Speaker 1: was supposed to be, you know what I mean. So again,

2430
02:17:57,959 --> 02:18:00,720
Speaker 1: all love to Luke James. This is not a dead Okay,

2431
02:18:01,040 --> 02:18:03,160
Speaker 1: fuck any blog that's trying to turn this into a disc.

2432
02:18:03,400 --> 02:18:05,560
Speaker 1: It's not that I got love for Luke James. I

2433
02:18:05,640 --> 02:18:08,280
Speaker 1: love that dude, but that particular song just didn't become

2434
02:18:08,320 --> 02:18:09,879
Speaker 1: what it should have been. You know what I mean?

2435
02:18:10,280 --> 02:18:12,200
Speaker 1: Is that a risk? Because when you write a song

2436
02:18:12,320 --> 02:18:15,560
Speaker 1: for somebody, is it is it? Is it you laying

2437
02:18:15,720 --> 02:18:18,240
Speaker 1: your your vocals down and then sending it to them

2438
02:18:18,560 --> 02:18:22,680
Speaker 1: Because if this ever comes out, now, this is your

2439
02:18:23,440 --> 02:18:27,039
Speaker 1: what do they call that ship? Uh? Your reference track?

2440
02:18:27,800 --> 02:18:29,840
Speaker 1: So it has that ever been a problem for you

2441
02:18:29,959 --> 02:18:32,680
Speaker 1: because you gotta you gotta realize like hip hop and

2442
02:18:32,760 --> 02:18:35,840
Speaker 1: hip hop, because if I don't move them and being

2443
02:18:35,920 --> 02:18:42,600
Speaker 1: myself could have done at the same time, look at

2444
02:18:42,640 --> 02:18:44,880
Speaker 1: me crazy. Let's just let's just take the band aid

2445
02:18:44,920 --> 02:18:49,039
Speaker 1: off the thing right, UM and R and B yes,

2446
02:18:49,520 --> 02:18:52,879
Speaker 1: you know um having someone help you with your your stuff.

2447
02:18:53,200 --> 02:18:58,680
Speaker 1: It's not not at all, But so is that? Has

2448
02:18:58,720 --> 02:19:00,680
Speaker 1: that ever been a problem for you? Like you're sitting

2449
02:19:00,720 --> 02:19:04,240
Speaker 1: in reference tracks and maybe the engineer got mad at

2450
02:19:04,320 --> 02:19:08,880
Speaker 1: somebody and sent it out. Now, the version that Neo

2451
02:19:09,040 --> 02:19:14,240
Speaker 1: just did for Selee Dion, it's out there, and it's

2452
02:19:14,280 --> 02:19:18,000
Speaker 1: Neo's version as opposed to Slean Dion's version. Like I'll

2453
02:19:18,000 --> 02:19:20,440
Speaker 1: just give your example. Have you ever had a ranto

2454
02:19:20,480 --> 02:19:24,000
Speaker 1: a problem? Like? Um, it never became a problem, but

2455
02:19:24,120 --> 02:19:26,520
Speaker 1: it was a It was a lesson to learn in

2456
02:19:26,600 --> 02:19:30,760
Speaker 1: the realm of uh songwriting and trying to shop records.

2457
02:19:31,240 --> 02:19:35,440
Speaker 1: So if I write a record, right, I I can sing.

2458
02:19:35,560 --> 02:19:37,520
Speaker 1: So if I write a record, I'm gonna sing the

2459
02:19:37,600 --> 02:19:41,800
Speaker 1: reference to that record. Not every songwriter right can sing

2460
02:19:42,200 --> 02:19:45,560
Speaker 1: get somebody else to sing it. But the smart songwriter

2461
02:19:46,520 --> 02:19:49,440
Speaker 1: is gonna tell the person referencing the record to keep

2462
02:19:49,480 --> 02:19:53,240
Speaker 1: it as basic and minimal as humanly possible. Because what

2463
02:19:53,360 --> 02:19:55,120
Speaker 1: you don't want to do, You don't want to outsing

2464
02:19:56,280 --> 02:19:58,080
Speaker 1: the pression that you're trying to shop it to you

2465
02:19:58,160 --> 02:19:59,760
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like you want to you want

2466
02:19:59,760 --> 02:20:01,240
Speaker 1: to keep and you want to keep it in a

2467
02:20:01,320 --> 02:20:04,880
Speaker 1: realm where the person listening to it can hear whether

2468
02:20:04,959 --> 02:20:08,000
Speaker 1: they can bring to it in order to make it

2469
02:20:08,360 --> 02:20:10,680
Speaker 1: their record. You know, if you're going there and you're

2470
02:20:10,680 --> 02:20:13,280
Speaker 1: doing all the libs and you're singing this ship like you,

2471
02:20:13,480 --> 02:20:15,480
Speaker 1: like you're trying to audition for the Ship to be

2472
02:20:15,560 --> 02:20:18,440
Speaker 1: your record, you're probably not gonna sell that joint. Even

2473
02:20:18,480 --> 02:20:20,680
Speaker 1: if it's dope, even if it's amazing, You're not gonna

2474
02:20:20,720 --> 02:20:23,280
Speaker 1: sell that record because nobody's gonna listen to it and

2475
02:20:23,360 --> 02:20:26,560
Speaker 1: be able to hear themselves on it. They can only

2476
02:20:26,640 --> 02:20:29,920
Speaker 1: hear you, right, So it's only it's only ever really

2477
02:20:30,000 --> 02:20:32,280
Speaker 1: been that, you know. I had to I had to

2478
02:20:32,400 --> 02:20:35,040
Speaker 1: learn that. Uh. I had to learn that early on

2479
02:20:35,160 --> 02:20:38,879
Speaker 1: because in the beginning writing the record, I'm excited about

2480
02:20:38,920 --> 02:20:41,160
Speaker 1: the ship and I'm singing that, I'm doing the harmonies

2481
02:20:41,200 --> 02:20:43,400
Speaker 1: and the lives and I'm doing this ship like like

2482
02:20:43,520 --> 02:20:46,720
Speaker 1: it could potentially be my record, to where it's like

2483
02:20:47,120 --> 02:20:50,280
Speaker 1: people people are listening to it and giving it the

2484
02:20:50,400 --> 02:20:52,600
Speaker 1: love and giving it the respect, but nobody wants to

2485
02:20:52,680 --> 02:20:55,080
Speaker 1: buy it because it's like this, this is your record,

2486
02:20:55,160 --> 02:20:57,600
Speaker 1: this is you, you know what I mean. So it's

2487
02:20:57,600 --> 02:21:00,440
Speaker 1: always only been that. That's that that type of situation.

2488
02:21:01,320 --> 02:21:06,199
Speaker 1: Let's talk about crazy with jay Z. How man, how'm

2489
02:21:06,280 --> 02:21:12,080
Speaker 1: this happened? Oh so so l a read signed me

2490
02:21:12,320 --> 02:21:16,880
Speaker 1: to death Jam And it was right when jay Z

2491
02:21:17,120 --> 02:21:24,439
Speaker 1: had become president of Death Chance. Jay Z is president,

2492
02:21:25,360 --> 02:21:30,040
Speaker 1: he's my friend. I can say he took anybody the whole.

2493
02:21:30,280 --> 02:21:32,120
Speaker 1: He took the whole label budget, and nobody had a

2494
02:21:32,120 --> 02:21:40,200
Speaker 1: budget of that. Dog. I just so. I mean when

2495
02:21:40,240 --> 02:21:43,320
Speaker 1: I when I first met jay Z, uh when I

2496
02:21:43,440 --> 02:21:45,880
Speaker 1: first got to deal and I don't mean where then was.

2497
02:21:45,920 --> 02:21:47,800
Speaker 1: I think it was in the l A office and

2498
02:21:49,280 --> 02:21:51,960
Speaker 1: I walked to the age to jay Z and I,

2499
02:21:52,440 --> 02:21:55,080
Speaker 1: you know, I extend my hand and he he shakes

2500
02:21:55,120 --> 02:21:57,120
Speaker 1: my hand. But his first words to me it was like, Nigga,

2501
02:21:57,120 --> 02:22:00,320
Speaker 1: why you get that song away? I don't. And he's

2502
02:22:00,320 --> 02:22:03,600
Speaker 1: talking about Marios. You should let me love you like Nicka,

2503
02:22:03,600 --> 02:22:06,080
Speaker 1: Why you get that song away? Not hey, how you doing?

2504
02:22:06,160 --> 02:22:08,160
Speaker 1: Welcome to the label, none of that ship. Nigga, why

2505
02:22:08,200 --> 02:22:10,800
Speaker 1: you get that song away? It was that and and

2506
02:22:11,120 --> 02:22:13,680
Speaker 1: and that kind of like set the set the tone

2507
02:22:13,800 --> 02:22:17,520
Speaker 1: for like our entire relationship. Like jay Z has always

2508
02:22:17,600 --> 02:22:22,320
Speaker 1: been that dude that's gonna just keep it funky about whatever,

2509
02:22:22,600 --> 02:22:24,000
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. That was a point where

2510
02:22:24,000 --> 02:22:28,120
Speaker 1: I was questioning, questioning my worth and my value in

2511
02:22:28,200 --> 02:22:30,640
Speaker 1: the game because I hadn't reached the level of some

2512
02:22:30,879 --> 02:22:33,800
Speaker 1: of some of my peers. And he and jay Z

2513
02:22:33,959 --> 02:22:36,840
Speaker 1: said to me, He's like, Nigga, you will never not

2514
02:22:37,040 --> 02:22:39,959
Speaker 1: be all right because you can always right yourself out

2515
02:22:40,000 --> 02:22:43,440
Speaker 1: of whatever situation. Regardless of what's going on with you.

2516
02:22:43,800 --> 02:22:46,480
Speaker 1: You can always right your way out like you have.

2517
02:22:46,959 --> 02:22:49,960
Speaker 1: You have that. It's cats out here that couldn't write

2518
02:22:49,959 --> 02:22:52,000
Speaker 1: a song that will sing, that will sing the ship

2519
02:22:52,080 --> 02:22:54,120
Speaker 1: out of a song, but couldn't write a song if

2520
02:22:54,160 --> 02:22:56,400
Speaker 1: their life depending on it, That person is depending on

2521
02:22:56,520 --> 02:22:59,680
Speaker 1: somebody to write a song for them. You're not that

2522
02:23:00,080 --> 02:23:01,920
Speaker 1: and you will never be that dude, So you'll never

2523
02:23:02,040 --> 02:23:04,560
Speaker 1: be fucked up. You'll never be in a position that

2524
02:23:04,640 --> 02:23:07,040
Speaker 1: you can't get out of. And like I took that

2525
02:23:07,080 --> 02:23:08,480
Speaker 1: ship to heart, you know what I mean, Like he

2526
02:23:08,680 --> 02:23:11,400
Speaker 1: like he's he's always been that dude to me, Like

2527
02:23:11,800 --> 02:23:22,800
Speaker 1: I'm doing yeah, yeah, reasons to take shots, Like I'm

2528
02:23:22,840 --> 02:23:25,480
Speaker 1: sitting over here trying to be cordial, but you over here,

2529
02:23:26,879 --> 02:23:29,560
Speaker 1: like listen, there there's a reason that I got to

2530
02:23:29,640 --> 02:23:31,520
Speaker 1: the levels that I got to because I had some

2531
02:23:31,640 --> 02:23:34,840
Speaker 1: of the most amazing motherfucker's in my corner in my

2532
02:23:35,000 --> 02:23:37,800
Speaker 1: ear telling me how to move, you know, from from

2533
02:23:37,920 --> 02:23:40,040
Speaker 1: jay Z to l A. Reid to you know, to

2534
02:23:40,200 --> 02:23:42,800
Speaker 1: my Nigga Tango to Sean like it was it was

2535
02:23:42,879 --> 02:23:46,280
Speaker 1: people around me that genuinely wanted to see me win.

2536
02:23:46,440 --> 02:23:49,280
Speaker 1: And I feel like that's rare nowadays, you know what

2537
02:23:49,320 --> 02:23:51,680
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I had people in my corner that was like, Nah,

2538
02:23:51,800 --> 02:23:54,440
Speaker 1: we want to see this dude get there, and we're

2539
02:23:54,440 --> 02:23:56,400
Speaker 1: gonna make sure that he has the tools that he

2540
02:23:56,520 --> 02:24:00,040
Speaker 1: needs to get there. Like I've never not recogned, not

2541
02:24:00,120 --> 02:24:02,560
Speaker 1: eyes that, you know what I'm saying, Like, like I

2542
02:24:02,840 --> 02:24:05,440
Speaker 1: know that this ship don't happen for everybody, and you know,

2543
02:24:05,600 --> 02:24:07,800
Speaker 1: for this, for the way that it does happen for

2544
02:24:07,840 --> 02:24:12,400
Speaker 1: certain people, it's it's it's always uh, it's always something interesting,

2545
02:24:12,480 --> 02:24:14,360
Speaker 1: it's always something traumatic, you know what I'm saying. Like

2546
02:24:15,120 --> 02:24:18,640
Speaker 1: my journey from where I was to where I am

2547
02:24:19,760 --> 02:24:24,360
Speaker 1: has been paved in fucking gold bro and I don't,

2548
02:24:24,440 --> 02:24:27,960
Speaker 1: I don't, I do not not recognize that as a

2549
02:24:28,040 --> 02:24:30,680
Speaker 1: blessing because it don't happen like that for everybody, So

2550
02:24:31,160 --> 02:24:39,520
Speaker 1: it's a blessing. I appreciate everybody. For you. I'll run

2551
02:24:39,600 --> 02:24:46,800
Speaker 1: for that for you. Meal, You're a remarkable motherfucker. You're impeccable. Motherfucker.

2552
02:24:48,080 --> 02:24:50,880
Speaker 1: You out here, you got hits after hits. Not only

2553
02:24:50,959 --> 02:24:54,560
Speaker 1: you got hits for yourself, you got features with other people.

2554
02:24:54,640 --> 02:24:59,520
Speaker 1: That's hits. And then you have writing you're right for

2555
02:25:00,040 --> 02:25:04,440
Speaker 1: mother motherfucker. That's crazy. They try to give me the

2556
02:25:04,520 --> 02:25:07,720
Speaker 1: right for another fucker. I was too lazy, Like you

2557
02:25:07,840 --> 02:25:15,640
Speaker 1: gotta like shot because what is exactly you gotta do

2558
02:25:15,720 --> 02:25:17,840
Speaker 1: the right for motherfucker. You gotta hang out with them.

2559
02:25:18,080 --> 02:25:25,000
Speaker 1: You gotta have no listen, you don't gotta either. If

2560
02:25:25,080 --> 02:25:28,440
Speaker 1: you are blessed with the opportunity to sit and talk

2561
02:25:28,520 --> 02:25:31,600
Speaker 1: to the artists that you're writing for, that's a blessing, bro,

2562
02:25:31,840 --> 02:25:34,880
Speaker 1: because like in the beginning, the beginning to talk to

2563
02:25:34,920 --> 02:25:39,040
Speaker 1: you writing records and hoping that somebody here that ship

2564
02:25:39,160 --> 02:25:41,320
Speaker 1: and can't relate to it, like you ain't had no

2565
02:25:41,680 --> 02:25:44,240
Speaker 1: inside track on who this person is, what this person

2566
02:25:44,240 --> 02:25:46,680
Speaker 1: is going through, how this person would deal with X

2567
02:25:46,800 --> 02:25:49,160
Speaker 1: y Z situations. You don't know none of that with

2568
02:25:49,320 --> 02:25:51,680
Speaker 1: with those situations where you're not with them. Are you

2569
02:25:51,800 --> 02:25:55,280
Speaker 1: writing general records where you right yere like they're just

2570
02:25:55,440 --> 02:25:58,120
Speaker 1: like these general records that are gonna work. I have

2571
02:25:58,200 --> 02:26:01,320
Speaker 1: always tried to lock myself in two things that are timeless,

2572
02:26:01,920 --> 02:26:04,400
Speaker 1: things that are never gonna go anywhere. The sound of

2573
02:26:04,480 --> 02:26:06,880
Speaker 1: a piano that ship ain't gonna go out of style,

2574
02:26:07,400 --> 02:26:09,680
Speaker 1: the sound of a guitar, the sound of a drum

2575
02:26:09,760 --> 02:26:12,039
Speaker 1: that ship ain't will never go out of style. Love

2576
02:26:12,320 --> 02:26:14,680
Speaker 1: as a feeling, as an emotion, as a topic, and

2577
02:26:14,800 --> 02:26:18,280
Speaker 1: gonn never go out of style. Anybody love love? Yeah,

2578
02:26:18,879 --> 02:26:20,720
Speaker 1: if you felt it, if you've never felt it, if

2579
02:26:20,720 --> 02:26:22,480
Speaker 1: you're craving it, you you ain't never felt that you

2580
02:26:22,520 --> 02:26:24,400
Speaker 1: want to feel it? You have felt it, you know,

2581
02:26:24,480 --> 02:26:26,640
Speaker 1: the black, white and gray that ship, That ship will

2582
02:26:26,680 --> 02:26:29,760
Speaker 1: never go away. It's water, bro, It's just it's kind

2583
02:26:29,800 --> 02:26:32,800
Speaker 1: of needed and necessary for us to survive. Right So

2584
02:26:32,920 --> 02:26:36,480
Speaker 1: I've always locked myself into things that I felt like,

2585
02:26:36,560 --> 02:26:39,480
Speaker 1: we're never gonna go away, you know. And that's the

2586
02:26:39,520 --> 02:26:41,959
Speaker 1: way that you that's the way that you stay timeless.

2587
02:26:42,840 --> 02:26:45,440
Speaker 1: I don't I don't, I don't pay I pay attention

2588
02:26:45,520 --> 02:26:49,560
Speaker 1: to trend, but I don't lock into trend, you know

2589
02:26:49,600 --> 02:26:52,240
Speaker 1: what I mean? Music is always going to evolve and

2590
02:26:52,360 --> 02:26:56,240
Speaker 1: expand and change as times change, as the people producing

2591
02:26:56,280 --> 02:26:59,240
Speaker 1: the music change. It's never gonna stay the same, you

2592
02:26:59,280 --> 02:27:03,560
Speaker 1: know what. Concept Actually, it could be consistent conceptually, it

2593
02:27:03,640 --> 02:27:05,560
Speaker 1: could because people are always going to go through what

2594
02:27:05,600 --> 02:27:13,279
Speaker 1: they're gonna go through, but they're they're uh their description

2595
02:27:13,360 --> 02:27:15,560
Speaker 1: of that or there or there there the art that

2596
02:27:15,640 --> 02:27:18,280
Speaker 1: they create based on that, it's always going to change

2597
02:27:18,320 --> 02:27:21,080
Speaker 1: with the times, you know what I mean. So so

2598
02:27:21,240 --> 02:27:26,400
Speaker 1: I've I've always kind of prided myself on being being flexible,

2599
02:27:26,560 --> 02:27:29,160
Speaker 1: like I can't not be me. I'm gonna be me,

2600
02:27:29,640 --> 02:27:31,520
Speaker 1: Like even in even in this new album, this is

2601
02:27:31,560 --> 02:27:34,680
Speaker 1: the self explanatory album, there are out there are songs

2602
02:27:34,760 --> 02:27:37,680
Speaker 1: on this album that are classic Neo. If you've been

2603
02:27:37,680 --> 02:27:40,280
Speaker 1: a Neo fan from since, in my own words, you're

2604
02:27:40,320 --> 02:27:43,360
Speaker 1: gonna relate to these records right right the funk away right.

2605
02:27:44,320 --> 02:27:48,400
Speaker 1: But there's also out records on this album that are

2606
02:27:48,760 --> 02:27:52,800
Speaker 1: me acknowledging the fact that the times have changed, the

2607
02:27:52,920 --> 02:27:56,520
Speaker 1: sound has changed, the vibe has changed. I can never

2608
02:27:56,640 --> 02:27:59,600
Speaker 1: not be me, I'm always be me. But I'm but

2609
02:27:59,760 --> 02:28:02,240
Speaker 1: I'm even me that I can apply to whatever. I've

2610
02:28:02,280 --> 02:28:04,280
Speaker 1: always been flexible. I've always been able to move in

2611
02:28:04,360 --> 02:28:08,280
Speaker 1: and make sense with whatever's going on. And and though

2612
02:28:08,560 --> 02:28:11,440
Speaker 1: those records, you know, so to the die hard Neo fan,

2613
02:28:12,000 --> 02:28:15,440
Speaker 1: you know, these are new records to you because you're

2614
02:28:15,440 --> 02:28:18,280
Speaker 1: accustomed to a certain sound from Neo. I just need

2615
02:28:18,320 --> 02:28:20,280
Speaker 1: you to jump into this album with an open mind.

2616
02:28:20,440 --> 02:28:24,760
Speaker 1: Just jump into this album anticipating quality, because even if

2617
02:28:24,800 --> 02:28:26,840
Speaker 1: you don't so much understand what the music is doing,

2618
02:28:27,160 --> 02:28:29,320
Speaker 1: even if it's not so much your bag, even if

2619
02:28:29,360 --> 02:28:31,520
Speaker 1: it's not so much your cup of tea, you will

2620
02:28:31,600 --> 02:28:34,160
Speaker 1: never ever be able to deny the quality. I do

2621
02:28:34,320 --> 02:28:36,720
Speaker 1: that for y'all. I make sure that my ship is

2622
02:28:36,840 --> 02:28:40,200
Speaker 1: quality period, so that at the end of the day,

2623
02:28:40,320 --> 02:28:43,160
Speaker 1: if you can't say nothing else, you can say that

2624
02:28:43,200 --> 02:28:46,560
Speaker 1: sh sounded amazing, like that's that's how I rock. Sorry,

2625
02:28:49,560 --> 02:28:52,240
Speaker 1: are you? Are you composing the music as well? Are

2626
02:28:52,280 --> 02:28:55,199
Speaker 1: you composing music as well? To a to a degree,

2627
02:28:55,520 --> 02:28:59,800
Speaker 1: to a degree. Uh. There's a a group of producers

2628
02:28:59,840 --> 02:29:02,360
Speaker 1: that I work with. I don't even I don't it's

2629
02:29:02,360 --> 02:29:04,280
Speaker 1: not even fair to call them producers. I call them

2630
02:29:04,360 --> 02:29:06,800
Speaker 1: composers because these are the kind of cast that you

2631
02:29:06,840 --> 02:29:08,680
Speaker 1: can tell them that you have an idea that sounds

2632
02:29:08,760 --> 02:29:11,000
Speaker 1: like this, and they go take that idea and run

2633
02:29:11,080 --> 02:29:14,240
Speaker 1: with it as opposed to giving you these are these

2634
02:29:14,280 --> 02:29:16,040
Speaker 1: are kind of tracks I do. And that's just what

2635
02:29:16,200 --> 02:29:19,000
Speaker 1: I do. You know what I'm saying. I've always I've

2636
02:29:19,040 --> 02:29:24,120
Speaker 1: always had an appreciation for the versatile, versatile producer. You know,

2637
02:29:24,200 --> 02:29:26,200
Speaker 1: I can give you hip hop ship, I can give

2638
02:29:26,240 --> 02:29:29,320
Speaker 1: you some quote unquote neo soul ship, I can give

2639
02:29:29,360 --> 02:29:33,680
Speaker 1: you some this like, yeah, all of it. Because at

2640
02:29:33,680 --> 02:29:36,200
Speaker 1: the end of the day, I'm a I'm a I

2641
02:29:36,280 --> 02:29:39,200
Speaker 1: can apply me to whatever, nigga. I could do a

2642
02:29:39,240 --> 02:29:41,400
Speaker 1: fucking rock song. I could do a poker record if

2643
02:29:41,440 --> 02:29:44,600
Speaker 1: I felt like I could apply me to a poker record,

2644
02:29:44,640 --> 02:29:49,920
Speaker 1: straight up. Yeah, not the not the game. Wooden Shoes,

2645
02:29:50,400 --> 02:29:54,480
Speaker 1: Wooden Shoes and Netflix. Yeah check it out, you see

2646
02:29:55,040 --> 02:29:58,160
Speaker 1: yeah don't Yeah, I seen it. Yeah they started it.

2647
02:30:00,120 --> 02:30:05,920
Speaker 1: We'll talking about off air alright. Look um the fabulous

2648
02:30:06,040 --> 02:30:10,520
Speaker 1: record make Me Better, Make You Better that was recorded

2649
02:30:10,600 --> 02:30:15,640
Speaker 1: for jay Z written when I did that hook, I

2650
02:30:15,800 --> 02:30:19,360
Speaker 1: was in the studio with jay Z and and I'll

2651
02:30:19,440 --> 02:30:22,800
Speaker 1: never forget this session because I had always heard that

2652
02:30:23,040 --> 02:30:26,640
Speaker 1: jay Z doesn't write anything down. I had heard that,

2653
02:30:26,920 --> 02:30:29,640
Speaker 1: like multiple times, like he's not a cat that will

2654
02:30:29,680 --> 02:30:32,240
Speaker 1: sit because because there was a point in my career

2655
02:30:32,280 --> 02:30:33,840
Speaker 1: where I was a slave to a pen and pad.

2656
02:30:33,920 --> 02:30:35,360
Speaker 1: I had to write it down. I had to, I

2657
02:30:35,440 --> 02:30:37,920
Speaker 1: had to be able to visualize. I could see it.

2658
02:30:38,720 --> 02:30:40,920
Speaker 1: So I'm in a studio with Jay and the beat

2659
02:30:41,040 --> 02:30:43,280
Speaker 1: is playing and it's a beat from Timberland. Shout out,

2660
02:30:43,600 --> 02:30:46,600
Speaker 1: shout out to Timberland. And he's like, what what you

2661
02:30:46,720 --> 02:30:49,160
Speaker 1: hear to this? I'm like, all, give me a minute.

2662
02:30:49,480 --> 02:30:51,920
Speaker 1: So I sit with my pad and pen and I write.

2663
02:30:52,959 --> 02:30:54,680
Speaker 1: I'm sitting there trying to figure out what to right.

2664
02:30:55,240 --> 02:30:56,800
Speaker 1: And as I'm sitting there trying to figure it out,

2665
02:30:57,120 --> 02:31:01,080
Speaker 1: Beyonce comes to the studio and they find and they

2666
02:31:01,160 --> 02:31:03,240
Speaker 1: kind of like find a corner and like dip off

2667
02:31:03,360 --> 02:31:07,000
Speaker 1: from everybody. This is Sony Studios in New York. She

2668
02:31:07,120 --> 02:31:09,440
Speaker 1: won't exist, you know what I'm talking about, My nigga

2669
02:31:09,879 --> 02:31:12,800
Speaker 1: and she don't exist no more. But so much history

2670
02:31:12,920 --> 02:31:15,320
Speaker 1: was made in that building. So we're in that building

2671
02:31:15,800 --> 02:31:19,480
Speaker 1: and it's J and B in the corner like nigger.

2672
02:31:19,520 --> 02:31:21,040
Speaker 1: It might as well not have been nobody else in

2673
02:31:21,120 --> 02:31:23,800
Speaker 1: the because they just they just in there, just in

2674
02:31:23,959 --> 02:31:26,480
Speaker 1: each other, you know what I'm saying. So I'm looking

2675
02:31:26,520 --> 02:31:28,960
Speaker 1: at this and I write, I I'm thinking about j

2676
02:31:29,840 --> 02:31:33,640
Speaker 1: jay Z. I'm a moving by myself, jay Z. I'm

2677
02:31:33,680 --> 02:31:38,280
Speaker 1: a movement by myself, jay Z and Beyonce. But I'm

2678
02:31:38,320 --> 02:31:43,440
Speaker 1: a force. We're together. You know what I'm saying, Mommy,

2679
02:31:43,520 --> 02:31:48,400
Speaker 1: I'm good all by myself, but you you make me better.

2680
02:31:49,480 --> 02:31:54,440
Speaker 1: You feel me, you feel me. I'm watched. I'm watching

2681
02:31:54,520 --> 02:31:56,000
Speaker 1: him in the corner, like trying not to be a

2682
02:31:56,080 --> 02:31:59,520
Speaker 1: creep because most weird. If anybody turned around and look

2683
02:31:59,560 --> 02:32:00,880
Speaker 1: at me in every right, now, they can be nigga,

2684
02:32:00,879 --> 02:32:06,920
Speaker 1: what then you staring at my bad? Bad? Bro, my bad,

2685
02:32:08,720 --> 02:32:10,880
Speaker 1: But you can't help but feel the energy in the

2686
02:32:10,959 --> 02:32:13,800
Speaker 1: corner because they they're in the corner and their own

2687
02:32:13,959 --> 02:32:16,200
Speaker 1: fucking world they might have will not have been nobody

2688
02:32:16,240 --> 02:32:18,640
Speaker 1: else in the room, Like this is the vibe that

2689
02:32:18,760 --> 02:32:21,240
Speaker 1: they got and I'm just looking at it, like all right,

2690
02:32:21,720 --> 02:32:25,520
Speaker 1: I'm jay Z, I'm fucking jay Z. I'm a movement

2691
02:32:26,959 --> 02:32:29,280
Speaker 1: just by me, just by myself. I can walk in

2692
02:32:29,320 --> 02:32:32,039
Speaker 1: the room by myself and ship is gonna change because

2693
02:32:32,080 --> 02:32:35,280
Speaker 1: I'm in the room. I'm a movement, nigga. But when

2694
02:32:35,320 --> 02:32:39,680
Speaker 1: I walk in with you, now, I'm a force now,

2695
02:32:39,840 --> 02:32:42,520
Speaker 1: regardless of what you thought regardless of what you felt like,

2696
02:32:43,120 --> 02:32:47,320
Speaker 1: your mood, everything about you changes because we are in

2697
02:32:47,440 --> 02:32:50,400
Speaker 1: the room. You feel me like, that's that's different, bro,

2698
02:32:50,600 --> 02:32:53,200
Speaker 1: that's that ship is different. So I wrote that ship

2699
02:32:53,800 --> 02:32:56,200
Speaker 1: and I presented it to Jay and he was like,

2700
02:32:56,360 --> 02:32:58,960
Speaker 1: this is dope. This is R and B ship. You

2701
02:32:59,000 --> 02:33:04,080
Speaker 1: should keep it. And it was like yeah and boo

2702
02:33:04,200 --> 02:33:08,320
Speaker 1: at the same time, because like Nick, I just took

2703
02:33:08,520 --> 02:33:13,200
Speaker 1: your whole No, of course not, I'm not not not,

2704
02:33:14,200 --> 02:33:17,320
Speaker 1: But in my mind, I'm like, you don't want it? Wait,

2705
02:33:17,400 --> 02:33:20,360
Speaker 1: wait what Like I just I just took your whole

2706
02:33:20,480 --> 02:33:23,120
Speaker 1: element and and and put it in words like your

2707
02:33:23,160 --> 02:33:26,680
Speaker 1: whole ship and this is this is y'all you and

2708
02:33:26,800 --> 02:33:31,240
Speaker 1: be supposed to get a ship and and spas out right. Yeah,

2709
02:33:31,320 --> 02:33:33,080
Speaker 1: this ship is dope, some R and B ship that

2710
02:33:33,120 --> 02:33:41,080
Speaker 1: you should keep it. Thank you, thank you, thank thanks

2711
02:33:41,120 --> 02:33:45,280
Speaker 1: so much, thank you, sir. I appreciate it. Thank you.

2712
02:33:47,240 --> 02:33:52,320
Speaker 1: Now like I thought I was onto something like Nick,

2713
02:33:52,400 --> 02:33:55,480
Speaker 1: I have figured out I have. I have cracked the code.

2714
02:33:55,520 --> 02:33:58,040
Speaker 1: I have, I have cracked the matrix on Jay Z

2715
02:33:58,080 --> 02:34:01,200
Speaker 1: and Beyonce boom. And then they said, yeah, that's do

2716
02:34:01,360 --> 02:34:04,080
Speaker 1: keep it for yourself. I'm good. He's a great story. Buddy. Right,

2717
02:34:04,959 --> 02:34:08,120
Speaker 1: So I so at this mind you, this is jay

2718
02:34:08,200 --> 02:34:09,720
Speaker 1: Z telling me I should keep it for myself something,

2719
02:34:09,760 --> 02:34:11,680
Speaker 1: and I'm gona keep it for myself. So I write

2720
02:34:11,800 --> 02:34:15,000
Speaker 1: versus to the ship. I create a whole record. Right,

2721
02:34:15,480 --> 02:34:18,000
Speaker 1: Everybody likes the record, you know, the team likes the record,

2722
02:34:18,080 --> 02:34:20,119
Speaker 1: but they don't love the record. It's other ship that's

2723
02:34:20,160 --> 02:34:22,880
Speaker 1: that's getting the attention. So this record kind of becomes

2724
02:34:23,000 --> 02:34:25,920
Speaker 1: just a fucking archives just sitting in the archive. Right.

2725
02:34:26,400 --> 02:34:28,879
Speaker 1: I don't honestly even know how it got to FAB,

2726
02:34:29,640 --> 02:34:31,600
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, I don't know how it

2727
02:34:31,720 --> 02:34:35,880
Speaker 1: got to Fab. But Fab No, no, but Fab just

2728
02:34:35,959 --> 02:34:38,720
Speaker 1: hit me up and they're like, yo, hey this this

2729
02:34:38,920 --> 02:34:40,880
Speaker 1: makes me better. Ship, Nigga, you need to let me

2730
02:34:41,000 --> 02:34:42,760
Speaker 1: rock on this. And I'm like, bird, go for it,

2731
02:34:43,360 --> 02:34:45,480
Speaker 1: because again, it's it's an archive record. At this point,

2732
02:34:45,520 --> 02:34:49,400
Speaker 1: it was using it. It's just sitting. He's like, bro,

2733
02:34:49,720 --> 02:34:52,600
Speaker 1: you need to let me do your thing. So he

2734
02:34:52,720 --> 02:34:55,280
Speaker 1: does his thing, sends it back to me. I'm like, yeah, nigga,

2735
02:34:55,320 --> 02:35:00,120
Speaker 1: that's yeah, Yeah, that's yeah. That's one and and the

2736
02:35:00,240 --> 02:35:02,280
Speaker 1: rest is history. The label runs with it and it

2737
02:35:02,440 --> 02:35:05,600
Speaker 1: becomes that makes me better that everybody knows, but the

2738
02:35:05,800 --> 02:35:08,840
Speaker 1: and originally I wrote that ship with the intent that

2739
02:35:09,080 --> 02:35:11,640
Speaker 1: night I was like, Yo, Beyonce and jay Z is

2740
02:35:11,680 --> 02:35:15,000
Speaker 1: going to do a song to this tonight is happening

2741
02:35:15,200 --> 02:35:17,480
Speaker 1: right now, And I played the ship with j He

2742
02:35:17,600 --> 02:35:20,160
Speaker 1: was like, Yeah, that's dope. That's some R and B ship.

2743
02:35:21,080 --> 02:35:26,080
Speaker 1: Keep it for yourself. Records. Timber Land shout out to

2744
02:35:26,120 --> 02:35:29,640
Speaker 1: the boy, tim God, what a fucking amazing story. Man,

2745
02:35:35,120 --> 02:35:38,840
Speaker 1: God had no singing, Like, this is dope for you.

2746
02:35:39,720 --> 02:35:44,200
Speaker 1: For you, Timberlands, take on all of that Fab too, right,

2747
02:35:44,840 --> 02:35:47,760
Speaker 1: I don't. I literally you might want to ask fact.

2748
02:35:47,800 --> 02:35:50,520
Speaker 1: I literally don't know how Fab heard the record because

2749
02:35:50,680 --> 02:35:55,080
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't. Maybe I don't know because saying

2750
02:35:55,120 --> 02:35:57,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna sit on this record. To all I know

2751
02:35:57,480 --> 02:35:59,840
Speaker 1: is I get a hit from Fab to Blue like, Yo,

2752
02:36:00,040 --> 02:36:01,640
Speaker 1: this ship is dope. You need to let me funk

2753
02:36:01,720 --> 02:36:04,200
Speaker 1: with this. And I'm like, Nigga, go for it, go

2754
02:36:04,440 --> 02:36:07,440
Speaker 1: for it, because at this point it's literally just sitting

2755
02:36:07,480 --> 02:36:09,600
Speaker 1: in the archives like I'm not doing nothing with it,

2756
02:36:09,680 --> 02:36:12,200
Speaker 1: it's just there. So he's like, Yo, let me throw

2757
02:36:12,240 --> 02:36:15,640
Speaker 1: some verses this. Nigga do it, and he did it,

2758
02:36:15,760 --> 02:36:18,240
Speaker 1: and that ship became you know, the song we know

2759
02:36:18,400 --> 02:36:25,920
Speaker 1: now and the rest is history. Broa, it's just that, yo, fat,

2760
02:36:28,200 --> 02:36:39,000
Speaker 1: what's going on? Yeah? We got Neo dream. I thought

2761
02:36:39,040 --> 02:36:44,480
Speaker 1: you usually FaceTime FaceTime of you right now FaceTime you

2762
02:36:46,640 --> 02:36:49,000
Speaker 1: just face on your FaceTime. I don't want you want

2763
02:36:49,000 --> 02:36:52,440
Speaker 1: some creepy ship. WI not working in my face. Oh

2764
02:36:52,640 --> 02:36:54,480
Speaker 1: I'm hitting the wrong but and I'm sorry. I'm old school.

2765
02:36:58,600 --> 02:37:11,160
Speaker 1: I'm old school. Family's going on, Kevin, we got Leo here,

2766
02:37:11,320 --> 02:37:15,600
Speaker 1: we got Leo here. Yeah, I dropped. I'm telling the troup.

2767
02:37:15,800 --> 02:37:17,760
Speaker 1: He dropped. You want to or you want me to

2768
02:37:17,800 --> 02:37:26,039
Speaker 1: ask the questions in so so so so, but look

2769
02:37:26,360 --> 02:37:29,960
Speaker 1: check it. He he wants to know, how did you

2770
02:37:30,160 --> 02:37:34,160
Speaker 1: hear about of the record you made me better? How

2771
02:37:34,240 --> 02:37:41,000
Speaker 1: did I hear about it? Yeah? I said this hall

2772
02:37:41,040 --> 02:37:46,200
Speaker 1: of s okay. Yeah, he was like, he got a

2773
02:37:46,280 --> 02:37:51,520
Speaker 1: smash record. But it's but it's and his words I

2774
02:37:51,640 --> 02:37:53,920
Speaker 1: want to say. He said, it's a fat record, like

2775
02:37:54,320 --> 02:37:58,240
Speaker 1: like it's too, it's too. I mean, home could have

2776
02:37:58,320 --> 02:38:00,840
Speaker 1: did it in my eyes, but he said it was

2777
02:38:02,240 --> 02:38:06,520
Speaker 1: something and it was really fat. Now he's he said,

2778
02:38:06,640 --> 02:38:08,520
Speaker 1: he said, he said, it's an R and B record.

2779
02:38:08,680 --> 02:38:12,160
Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on, so the night so the night

2780
02:38:12,240 --> 02:38:16,160
Speaker 1: that I did this ship, telling the story. I'm sitting

2781
02:38:16,160 --> 02:38:17,680
Speaker 1: and telling the story. The night that I did this

2782
02:38:17,720 --> 02:38:19,680
Speaker 1: ship was like the first night that I really saw

2783
02:38:20,240 --> 02:38:23,360
Speaker 1: any interaction between him and B and that's what made

2784
02:38:23,400 --> 02:38:25,960
Speaker 1: me right the way I wrote it. So I'm sitting

2785
02:38:25,959 --> 02:38:29,440
Speaker 1: there like, yo, I didn't I've cracked the code to

2786
02:38:29,640 --> 02:38:32,720
Speaker 1: Jay and Beyonce. I'm moving by myself, but I'm a force.

2787
02:38:32,800 --> 02:38:34,960
Speaker 1: One were together and I played this ship for the

2788
02:38:35,040 --> 02:38:37,000
Speaker 1: nick and he was like, yeah, that's dope, you should

2789
02:38:37,080 --> 02:38:51,360
Speaker 1: keep it, nigger. I was. I was so honored and

2790
02:38:51,520 --> 02:38:59,200
Speaker 1: hurt at the same time, Like sometimes you can see

2791
02:38:59,280 --> 02:39:06,240
Speaker 1: records that and the right, but but you're running. I

2792
02:39:06,360 --> 02:39:11,640
Speaker 1: can't see how that that's that's a j B bro.

2793
02:39:12,040 --> 02:39:15,440
Speaker 1: The ship was inspired by just watching them sitting in

2794
02:39:15,520 --> 02:39:18,280
Speaker 1: the corner of the studio, spassing out, just being them,

2795
02:39:19,320 --> 02:39:21,440
Speaker 1: and the nigga was like, yeah, that's dope, Yeah, hold on,

2796
02:39:21,920 --> 02:39:24,920
Speaker 1: keep that on me. That's yours. I'm like, oh, hey, damn,

2797
02:39:25,560 --> 02:39:28,600
Speaker 1: but no, I literally never knew how how the record

2798
02:39:28,680 --> 02:39:32,279
Speaker 1: got to you. I just niggas was like, yo, fathers

2799
02:39:32,360 --> 02:39:34,160
Speaker 1: like he loved that ship. Let's rock. I'm like, all right,

2800
02:39:34,240 --> 02:39:36,320
Speaker 1: fucking let's rock, Like but I never knew how it

2801
02:39:36,520 --> 02:39:38,440
Speaker 1: got to you. So yeah, that's that's where this whole

2802
02:39:38,480 --> 02:39:42,240
Speaker 1: came up. Definitely was the whole out of you. Um.

2803
02:39:43,400 --> 02:39:44,960
Speaker 1: And he came to me. It was like, Yo, I

2804
02:39:45,040 --> 02:39:48,119
Speaker 1: got this joint. He said, I think it's a smash

2805
02:39:49,280 --> 02:39:52,480
Speaker 1: And he was like, I think he explained to me

2806
02:39:52,600 --> 02:39:56,280
Speaker 1: it was kind of originally set for him, but he

2807
02:39:56,440 --> 02:40:00,800
Speaker 1: think it was more of my lane. And I said,

2808
02:40:00,879 --> 02:40:02,680
Speaker 1: y'all this joining us out of here. I said, I

2809
02:40:02,680 --> 02:40:05,520
Speaker 1: don't know why hold giving me this record, but I

2810
02:40:05,640 --> 02:40:09,920
Speaker 1: asked a little question. That's crazy, straight up, straight up,

2811
02:40:10,200 --> 02:40:12,120
Speaker 1: when the God give you a blessing you on your

2812
02:40:12,120 --> 02:40:20,480
Speaker 1: only question, straight up straight up? My name a man.

2813
02:40:20,640 --> 02:40:24,920
Speaker 1: Good to see you, brother, hold on your yo. Father.

2814
02:40:25,000 --> 02:40:26,720
Speaker 1: I just want to tell y'all man, y're making New

2815
02:40:26,800 --> 02:40:30,840
Speaker 1: York looks so good you Jim Jones, Dave East every

2816
02:40:30,920 --> 02:40:33,680
Speaker 1: time I see y'all all together. May no, man, I

2817
02:40:34,240 --> 02:40:37,800
Speaker 1: really really appreciate y'all man for keeping that you know Camaraddie,

2818
02:40:37,879 --> 02:40:40,680
Speaker 1: Joel said, Tanner and that and that tightness. Man, you're

2819
02:40:40,760 --> 02:40:43,160
Speaker 1: making us look good. Man. I'm gonna coming and and

2820
02:40:43,640 --> 02:40:47,240
Speaker 1: and come hang out y'all very soon. We can't wait.

2821
02:40:47,360 --> 02:40:53,800
Speaker 1: We can't are you on rock the bells? Because if

2822
02:40:53,840 --> 02:41:00,080
Speaker 1: you're not, can I bring you out of special guests? Know?

2823
02:41:01,600 --> 02:41:04,920
Speaker 1: I hate y'all. Let you know my y'all. All right, y'all, well, look,

2824
02:41:05,040 --> 02:41:11,480
Speaker 1: thank you so much. That's crazy that you didn't know

2825
02:41:11,680 --> 02:41:15,160
Speaker 1: that you didn't know that jay Z that that that

2826
02:41:15,360 --> 02:41:18,920
Speaker 1: that's a lot about Jay because not only did he

2827
02:41:19,080 --> 02:41:21,960
Speaker 1: notice it was a hit, but he gave it a Yo,

2828
02:41:22,120 --> 02:41:24,400
Speaker 1: it's it's a You gotta be a different kind of

2829
02:41:24,560 --> 02:41:27,600
Speaker 1: dude to be like this is a hit, but this

2830
02:41:27,800 --> 02:41:31,160
Speaker 1: is a hit that's not for me. That's different. What

2831
02:41:31,360 --> 02:41:33,760
Speaker 1: was the time frame between the time that he told

2832
02:41:33,800 --> 02:41:37,000
Speaker 1: you it's not for him, that's for you that night?

2833
02:41:37,160 --> 02:41:41,200
Speaker 1: It was? What was that time? Uh? Yo? It was

2834
02:41:41,280 --> 02:41:44,640
Speaker 1: it was easily like a like a year, like a

2835
02:41:44,760 --> 02:41:48,959
Speaker 1: year because when he told me that, when he said,

2836
02:41:49,040 --> 02:41:50,960
Speaker 1: when he said, like, Yo, this is dope, you should

2837
02:41:50,959 --> 02:41:53,480
Speaker 1: hold on to it, I wrote versus to it like

2838
02:41:53,600 --> 02:41:55,360
Speaker 1: I wrote it like on some All right, I'm gonna

2839
02:41:55,360 --> 02:41:58,040
Speaker 1: hold on to it for myself and and and as

2840
02:41:58,120 --> 02:42:00,959
Speaker 1: much as we love the record, it just didn't feel

2841
02:42:01,080 --> 02:42:03,200
Speaker 1: right for the moves that we was making. It just

2842
02:42:03,320 --> 02:42:06,440
Speaker 1: never felt right. And then all of a sudden fab

2843
02:42:06,600 --> 02:42:08,920
Speaker 1: him be like, Yo, that makes me better join nigger.

2844
02:42:09,000 --> 02:42:11,520
Speaker 1: That's me Like, and I'm like, ah, yeah, let's rock.

2845
02:42:12,480 --> 02:42:15,520
Speaker 1: But but it wasn't it. It happens like that sometimes

2846
02:42:15,560 --> 02:42:18,600
Speaker 1: it's like it's you know, all the records that you're right,

2847
02:42:18,959 --> 02:42:22,279
Speaker 1: the records that the world here's you need to understand.

2848
02:42:22,320 --> 02:42:25,240
Speaker 1: It was like maybe twenty records that happened before that record,

2849
02:42:25,640 --> 02:42:27,480
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, And the is just sitting

2850
02:42:27,920 --> 02:42:31,560
Speaker 1: waiting to be groomed properly, to be presented to the

2851
02:42:31,640 --> 02:42:34,080
Speaker 1: world like and that. And that was what made me

2852
02:42:34,160 --> 02:42:36,080
Speaker 1: better was it was it was written for this, it

2853
02:42:36,160 --> 02:42:38,440
Speaker 1: was intended for this, didn't so much work for that.

2854
02:42:38,879 --> 02:42:40,880
Speaker 1: We re freaked it and worked it for this, and

2855
02:42:40,959 --> 02:42:42,360
Speaker 1: it worked, you know what I'm saying. That's That's what

2856
02:42:42,640 --> 02:42:44,800
Speaker 1: I think it's crazy, is that he told you the record,

2857
02:42:44,879 --> 02:42:48,040
Speaker 1: you should just take the record for yourself. So he

2858
02:42:48,280 --> 02:42:51,039
Speaker 1: obviously a year later, was like, this is a hit record.

2859
02:42:51,120 --> 02:42:53,720
Speaker 1: This guy did not put it out for himself. This

2860
02:42:53,879 --> 02:42:57,760
Speaker 1: needs to go somewhere. Yeah. Yeah, And and to this day,

2861
02:42:57,800 --> 02:43:00,520
Speaker 1: I got records I'm sitting on right now that are hits,

2862
02:43:01,080 --> 02:43:04,160
Speaker 1: just not exactly hits for me. I'm waiting on you

2863
02:43:04,280 --> 02:43:06,520
Speaker 1: know the right. I don't believe in a coincidence or

2864
02:43:06,560 --> 02:43:09,640
Speaker 1: an accident. I feel like everything that happens is supposed

2865
02:43:09,640 --> 02:43:12,400
Speaker 1: to happen, and it doesn't happen a second before it's

2866
02:43:12,440 --> 02:43:16,560
Speaker 1: supposed to happen. So there's there's there's a multitude of

2867
02:43:16,640 --> 02:43:19,240
Speaker 1: songs that I've written that I feel like if the

2868
02:43:19,320 --> 02:43:21,800
Speaker 1: world heard this, it would be a hit. But it's

2869
02:43:21,800 --> 02:43:24,320
Speaker 1: about who they hear it on, you know what I mean.

2870
02:43:24,600 --> 02:43:26,520
Speaker 1: If they heard it from me, maybe not so much.

2871
02:43:26,600 --> 02:43:28,840
Speaker 1: If they heard it from this cat maybe, you know,

2872
02:43:29,000 --> 02:43:31,800
Speaker 1: So it doesn't I have like a whole folder full

2873
02:43:31,840 --> 02:43:34,560
Speaker 1: of records that I'm just waiting on the right artist

2874
02:43:35,120 --> 02:43:37,720
Speaker 1: to jump up to be like, yo, yeah, all right

2875
02:43:37,920 --> 02:43:39,960
Speaker 1: here this is for you. Take this and go in

2876
02:43:40,040 --> 02:43:44,120
Speaker 1: the world and rock with this. Yeah. Yeah. Can you

2877
02:43:44,240 --> 02:43:50,960
Speaker 1: write a record for like uh Santana? I can write anything, bro, anything.

2878
02:43:51,760 --> 02:43:55,320
Speaker 1: Words are words and and they have power. And if

2879
02:43:55,400 --> 02:43:57,920
Speaker 1: you learn the power of words, you could run the

2880
02:43:58,000 --> 02:44:00,120
Speaker 1: planet if you felt like it. I could on the

2881
02:44:00,160 --> 02:44:02,600
Speaker 1: planet if I felt like it. That's the lightweight drunk drunk,

2882
02:44:02,640 --> 02:44:04,960
Speaker 1: but lightweight me telling the truth. I could write a

2883
02:44:05,000 --> 02:44:07,360
Speaker 1: record for anybody, bro, I could write a rock record.

2884
02:44:07,440 --> 02:44:09,360
Speaker 1: I could write a poker record, I could write a

2885
02:44:09,480 --> 02:44:13,920
Speaker 1: Spanish record that matter, It doesn't matter. I can speak

2886
02:44:13,959 --> 02:44:18,800
Speaker 1: passionately about a subject matter, and that's part of what's

2887
02:44:18,879 --> 02:44:21,200
Speaker 1: needed to be able to write. The other part is

2888
02:44:21,280 --> 02:44:24,960
Speaker 1: melody and and and creativity. I have all these things.

2889
02:44:25,240 --> 02:44:27,160
Speaker 1: So yeah, I can write a record for anybody. It

2890
02:44:27,200 --> 02:44:30,160
Speaker 1: don't matter, don't matter. So of course you just come

2891
02:44:30,200 --> 02:44:33,680
Speaker 1: to you and say you listen man. I think I

2892
02:44:33,760 --> 02:44:39,080
Speaker 1: think he's saying, if I come to you, I think

2893
02:44:39,120 --> 02:44:46,000
Speaker 1: I'm coming back what we're doing, Yo, listen, send me,

2894
02:44:46,120 --> 02:44:51,080
Speaker 1: send me to beat with your verses on it. I

2895
02:44:51,320 --> 02:45:04,240
Speaker 1: want to do that too. I got you. We're taking

2896
02:45:04,280 --> 02:45:06,039
Speaker 1: the shot of that. We're taking the shot of neo

2897
02:45:06,120 --> 02:45:10,720
Speaker 1: biking me out of retirement, but now we're bringing you

2898
02:45:10,760 --> 02:45:14,720
Speaker 1: out of retirement. When you're doing versus against Acorn, would

2899
02:45:14,760 --> 02:45:19,320
Speaker 1: I absolutely? And you're smoking him. Let's just I mean,

2900
02:45:19,720 --> 02:45:23,400
Speaker 1: that's for a free apartment in Africa. That's the best

2901
02:45:23,760 --> 02:45:28,800
Speaker 1: for the free apartment. It's a five million dollars Joe,

2902
02:45:29,959 --> 02:45:33,160
Speaker 1: I would happily do versus against a con. That's my brother,

2903
02:45:33,280 --> 02:45:35,400
Speaker 1: that's my guy, and I feel like it would be

2904
02:45:35,520 --> 02:45:39,440
Speaker 1: entertaining his his his category his his catalog versus my catalog.

2905
02:45:39,520 --> 02:45:42,360
Speaker 1: I feel like that would be super entertaining. Yeah, but

2906
02:45:42,680 --> 02:45:43,920
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, Yeah, I felt like

2907
02:45:43,959 --> 02:45:45,680
Speaker 1: I take that. I take I feel like I take that.

2908
02:45:45,760 --> 02:45:57,840
Speaker 1: On Holy we're supposed to salute y'all. Y'all did this.

2909
02:45:59,080 --> 02:46:05,000
Speaker 1: That's a good versus the prizes is a condo in Africa.

2910
02:46:05,760 --> 02:46:08,880
Speaker 1: If I win and I don't get some residency and

2911
02:46:08,959 --> 02:46:11,680
Speaker 1: this this city that he's creating, I'm gon fell away here. Okay,

2912
02:46:11,720 --> 02:46:13,400
Speaker 1: but let me just ask you something because we just

2913
02:46:13,520 --> 02:46:16,720
Speaker 1: came up with a question these workers that she wrote

2914
02:46:16,760 --> 02:46:20,160
Speaker 1: from Michael, Yeah, would you give him the janet? That's

2915
02:46:20,200 --> 02:46:22,760
Speaker 1: what I said. That's what I told him, and nobody

2916
02:46:23,240 --> 02:46:28,000
Speaker 1: to somebody. Somebody I said it to him, and then

2917
02:46:28,200 --> 02:46:33,720
Speaker 1: y'all was talking over we didn't rewind the tape. No

2918
02:46:33,879 --> 02:46:36,040
Speaker 1: real ship. That's not a bad idea. That's not a

2919
02:46:36,120 --> 02:46:48,760
Speaker 1: bad idea because that don't point of this guy. Yes, No,

2920
02:46:49,040 --> 02:46:52,280
Speaker 1: that that allows me to keep it genuine, to keep

2921
02:46:52,320 --> 02:46:54,240
Speaker 1: it real, you know what I'm saying. At the same time,

2922
02:46:55,000 --> 02:46:57,240
Speaker 1: taking sure that the records just gonna get the recognition

2923
02:46:57,320 --> 02:47:03,960
Speaker 1: that they need. Wait, what happened? Freddie Jackson? Freddie Jackson.

2924
02:47:04,280 --> 02:47:06,320
Speaker 1: I don't know, Freddy Jackson, he got the finger ways

2925
02:47:09,879 --> 02:47:14,560
Speaker 1: I'm definitely I'm not wrong. Freddy Jackson. Come on with

2926
02:47:14,959 --> 02:47:17,560
Speaker 1: with'a laughing Freddie Jackson got the figure where he out

2927
02:47:17,640 --> 02:47:22,680
Speaker 1: was out Michael Brother. Shout out the shout you know what,

2928
02:47:23,080 --> 02:47:26,800
Speaker 1: shout out the iconic he parted the Jackson five and

2929
02:47:26,879 --> 02:47:29,600
Speaker 1: he is not he was not he not. I went

2930
02:47:29,640 --> 02:47:35,040
Speaker 1: too far, My bad Jackson was. Freddy Jackson was devil,

2931
02:47:35,720 --> 02:47:42,160
Speaker 1: he was the smartest. He was not. You are, my lady,

2932
02:47:42,200 --> 02:47:46,400
Speaker 1: Freddie Jackson. He wasn't in. He wasn't in Jackson five. No,

2933
02:47:46,640 --> 02:47:51,840
Speaker 1: my bad. Everything I need and more. Hey, man, shout

2934
02:47:51,840 --> 02:47:56,440
Speaker 1: out Freddy Jackson. I don't know, Freddy, I don't know.

2935
02:47:56,520 --> 02:48:00,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take a shot to Freddy Jackson taking the shot.

2936
02:48:00,800 --> 02:48:04,920
Speaker 1: He didn't. He deserved fun to take a shot. But

2937
02:48:05,040 --> 02:48:08,520
Speaker 1: Freddy Jackson, listen, man, get back, get back to my

2938
02:48:08,600 --> 02:48:14,720
Speaker 1: original Jackson. That's that's an idea. That's actually a really

2939
02:48:14,800 --> 02:48:20,359
Speaker 1: good idea. That's that because that uh represents and respects

2940
02:48:20,600 --> 02:48:23,640
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson's legacy while at the same time not being

2941
02:48:24,520 --> 02:48:27,560
Speaker 1: you know, so far outside of what he was and

2942
02:48:27,640 --> 02:48:30,000
Speaker 1: what he would have done anyway, so now that's that's

2943
02:48:30,000 --> 02:48:32,120
Speaker 1: a really good idea. You know, his daughter and her

2944
02:48:32,240 --> 02:48:35,320
Speaker 1: son is an artist too. For that, Mike, Mike got

2945
02:48:36,000 --> 02:48:38,600
Speaker 1: or a son that's being an artis or you got done?

2946
02:48:39,160 --> 02:48:42,080
Speaker 1: Which one? I think you're both both both being artists.

2947
02:48:42,440 --> 02:48:43,600
Speaker 1: Well I don't know if they both artists, but you

2948
02:48:43,640 --> 02:48:46,880
Speaker 1: got a daughter and the son legacy doesn't validate you

2949
02:48:47,080 --> 02:48:51,360
Speaker 1: for me and the talent, I don't given who he dad,

2950
02:48:51,440 --> 02:48:53,400
Speaker 1: he was, what can you know? I think Janet would

2951
02:48:53,400 --> 02:48:56,080
Speaker 1: be the right. I'm gonna tell you what my grandfather

2952
02:48:56,160 --> 02:48:59,039
Speaker 1: told me the first time my grandfather met me after

2953
02:48:59,240 --> 02:49:03,080
Speaker 1: I was famous part of Wecan grandfather he said, you're

2954
02:49:03,120 --> 02:49:08,360
Speaker 1: telling cups from what dick. He was totally correct, He

2955
02:49:08,480 --> 02:49:10,760
Speaker 1: was totally correct. He was like, Jesus said, your mother

2956
02:49:10,840 --> 02:49:13,800
Speaker 1: little sing. If I don't know sing, it's me. It's

2957
02:49:13,840 --> 02:49:18,400
Speaker 1: like and I was like, damn you adressed dude. That's dumb.

2958
02:49:18,840 --> 02:49:21,879
Speaker 1: That's dumb. Because because he was, you call it one

2959
02:49:21,920 --> 02:49:28,800
Speaker 1: of them. The base he played, the beating. He got

2960
02:49:28,879 --> 02:49:32,400
Speaker 1: you straight. Was like, he was like, Rover, get sucked up.

2961
02:49:32,440 --> 02:49:39,800
Speaker 1: He comes from me. Good your mom me. He dead

2962
02:49:39,920 --> 02:49:42,360
Speaker 1: seriously said that to me. That Then I looked at

2963
02:49:42,440 --> 02:49:45,320
Speaker 1: pictures and then they showed me pictures of him touring,

2964
02:49:46,040 --> 02:49:50,280
Speaker 1: and I was like, damn, he's kind of correct, but

2965
02:49:50,560 --> 02:49:54,160
Speaker 1: because he's Puerto Rican and he's like this, he tells

2966
02:49:54,200 --> 02:49:57,480
Speaker 1: a couple of Monday. Wait a minute, we just kind

2967
02:49:57,480 --> 02:49:59,720
Speaker 1: of mad. And you said, that's like a shot to that.

2968
02:50:01,000 --> 02:50:06,040
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I didn't say. We went

2969
02:50:06,080 --> 02:50:08,560
Speaker 1: to take a shot to that. Got the neo because

2970
02:50:08,640 --> 02:50:12,320
Speaker 1: your career is truly rather than thank you, truly beautiful,

2971
02:50:13,800 --> 02:50:17,960
Speaker 1: truly dope man. And to see the level that you act,

2972
02:50:19,520 --> 02:50:25,959
Speaker 1: to see the uh, humbleness that you still display because

2973
02:50:25,959 --> 02:50:28,160
Speaker 1: you don't gotta be humble. You definitely don't have to

2974
02:50:28,240 --> 02:50:30,480
Speaker 1: be hume. I don't have to be. But it's more fun.

2975
02:50:30,840 --> 02:50:33,800
Speaker 1: How many Grammars you I got? Only only three? Only three?

2976
02:50:34,240 --> 02:50:43,039
Speaker 1: Three more than three? I say three. I was nominated

2977
02:50:43,080 --> 02:50:48,680
Speaker 1: and they said, don't come though, Why they didn't want

2978
02:50:48,720 --> 02:50:54,560
Speaker 1: my kind company? They no, I say, I say, only three,

2979
02:50:54,640 --> 02:50:56,920
Speaker 1: But I got to take a shot to your three Grammys.

2980
02:50:57,160 --> 02:51:00,360
Speaker 1: We can do that. Please, come on, Stephen winning double

2981
02:51:00,440 --> 02:51:05,680
Speaker 1: digit Grammys, you know, come on, man, listen. I'm up

2982
02:51:05,680 --> 02:51:07,800
Speaker 1: for myself in the category of the greats. How else

2983
02:51:07,840 --> 02:51:10,680
Speaker 1: can I achieve that greatness if I don't rock with

2984
02:51:10,800 --> 02:51:14,960
Speaker 1: the greats. Steven want to got double digit grammars, which

2985
02:51:15,000 --> 02:51:16,720
Speaker 1: means I got more. I got more work to do,

2986
02:51:16,959 --> 02:51:19,200
Speaker 1: got more work to do. What I'm saying, right, I've done.

2987
02:51:20,040 --> 02:51:23,240
Speaker 1: I've done great things. I'm gracious and I appreciate all

2988
02:51:23,280 --> 02:51:25,879
Speaker 1: the love that I've received. But there's so much more

2989
02:51:25,920 --> 02:51:29,280
Speaker 1: ship to do, so much more ship to do. So

2990
02:51:29,360 --> 02:51:34,000
Speaker 1: as long as y'are giving the fun rockets? Who Who's who? Who?

2991
02:51:34,120 --> 02:51:36,880
Speaker 1: Who's the record that you have never done that you

2992
02:51:36,959 --> 02:51:40,840
Speaker 1: want to do? Okay, So I've written records for Beyonce.

2993
02:51:41,879 --> 02:51:47,520
Speaker 1: We've never done anything record together. Right, I've write, I've done,

2994
02:51:47,560 --> 02:51:51,520
Speaker 1: I've done songs like you know with certain motherfucker's that

2995
02:51:51,560 --> 02:51:53,920
Speaker 1: I would love to do a song with them, not

2996
02:51:54,200 --> 02:51:58,640
Speaker 1: just me writing for them. You know, I'm anxious to

2997
02:51:58,800 --> 02:52:04,120
Speaker 1: see what me and Drake would come up with, like

2998
02:52:04,320 --> 02:52:07,080
Speaker 1: that might be, that might be interesting. I could see

2999
02:52:07,120 --> 02:52:09,199
Speaker 1: that it might be trash, but it might be interesting.

3000
02:52:10,920 --> 02:52:14,760
Speaker 1: It's I'm willing to take the chance and just see

3001
02:52:15,520 --> 02:52:18,280
Speaker 1: we're not We're not doing that. It's not gonna be trash.

3002
02:52:18,360 --> 02:52:21,240
Speaker 1: What are you going to be? It's gonna be as

3003
02:52:21,280 --> 02:52:23,840
Speaker 1: we won't call it panty wet music. I like it.

3004
02:52:24,040 --> 02:52:26,360
Speaker 1: I like it. That should be the last two panty

3005
02:52:26,480 --> 02:52:30,680
Speaker 1: wet music because how let your boy, let's figure it out.

3006
02:52:32,000 --> 02:52:37,640
Speaker 1: This gota yes start off, that should be your logo

3007
02:52:37,760 --> 02:52:41,800
Speaker 1: right there when he goes, and that's the logo. And

3008
02:52:41,840 --> 02:52:43,840
Speaker 1: then you just see the panties and then it just

3009
02:52:43,959 --> 02:52:48,960
Speaker 1: it just turned dry and just turn wet, you know

3010
02:52:49,000 --> 02:52:50,840
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like it just like it's like I

3011
02:52:50,920 --> 02:52:57,960
Speaker 1: did that West sitting over the crowd, like like a

3012
02:52:58,000 --> 02:53:02,760
Speaker 1: hologram or holographic you and then you're in the range.

3013
02:53:05,000 --> 02:53:08,080
Speaker 1: Doesn't Drake do a record and not? I mean people

3014
02:53:08,120 --> 02:53:16,400
Speaker 1: don't get pregnant? Yeah, failed true pregnant nine million. Hey, Aubrey,

3015
02:53:16,560 --> 02:53:19,480
Speaker 1: how let your boy listen. Let's let's Aubrey I did

3016
02:53:19,640 --> 02:53:22,600
Speaker 1: I prospected. It's his name, Yeah, it's his name. It's

3017
02:53:22,640 --> 02:53:25,840
Speaker 1: just your rappers by the real name. Why not. I

3018
02:53:25,879 --> 02:53:28,880
Speaker 1: would never call elko J Tard. I would call you

3019
02:53:29,000 --> 02:53:30,879
Speaker 1: by your real name if I knew your real name,

3020
02:53:31,200 --> 02:53:34,000
Speaker 1: because I funk with you. If I was just a fan,

3021
02:53:34,760 --> 02:53:36,960
Speaker 1: then I would call you by your artist name. You

3022
02:53:37,000 --> 02:53:39,000
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. No, that fused you as a person,

3023
02:53:39,120 --> 02:53:41,120
Speaker 1: But you as a person to would call you call

3024
02:53:41,200 --> 02:53:49,800
Speaker 1: your name day record though we're gonna get petty. How

3025
02:53:49,879 --> 02:53:52,360
Speaker 1: did your boy what You're Gonna be? A crazy record?

3026
02:53:55,360 --> 02:53:58,680
Speaker 1: What was it? Pet crack record? Sound like? I don't know,

3027
02:53:59,200 --> 02:54:02,280
Speaker 1: I don't know. But if it has any if Wedy

3028
02:54:02,800 --> 02:54:05,960
Speaker 1: has any entrance on that, you know that it's gonna

3029
02:54:06,000 --> 02:54:08,240
Speaker 1: be some fire ships come to dark because you ain't

3030
02:54:08,240 --> 02:54:10,039
Speaker 1: doing you don't do no, you don't do no bullshit.

3031
02:54:11,600 --> 02:54:14,920
Speaker 1: You refused to do mediocre records. Why what forward? It's

3032
02:54:15,040 --> 02:54:17,120
Speaker 1: enough of that in the world. You don't need it

3033
02:54:17,200 --> 02:54:27,039
Speaker 1: for me. Ella, my bad, bad bad. It's a surf

3034
02:54:27,120 --> 02:54:29,400
Speaker 1: way of the way you pop ship is fucking dope.

3035
02:54:31,440 --> 02:54:34,760
Speaker 1: You know. We have everybody on here kind of humble.

3036
02:54:34,840 --> 02:54:38,080
Speaker 1: But it's not like the title of your your album.

3037
02:54:38,360 --> 02:54:41,000
Speaker 1: It's like going there, it's gonna be based in fact.

3038
02:54:41,560 --> 02:54:44,760
Speaker 1: I'm never I'm never the nigger popping ship. And then

3039
02:54:44,920 --> 02:54:48,160
Speaker 1: you go and do the research and it ain't valid. No. Now,

3040
02:54:48,320 --> 02:54:50,240
Speaker 1: if I'm a pop ship in mind you, I don't

3041
02:54:50,280 --> 02:54:52,080
Speaker 1: have to pop ship because you can google it. You

3042
02:54:52,160 --> 02:54:54,160
Speaker 1: can see it. You know what you see if you

3043
02:54:54,240 --> 02:54:56,160
Speaker 1: really want to see it, you can see it. I

3044
02:54:56,240 --> 02:54:59,039
Speaker 1: don't gotta point you in the direction. Nah, if you're

3045
02:54:59,040 --> 02:55:01,320
Speaker 1: really thirsty, the it is over there. I don't have

3046
02:55:01,440 --> 02:55:03,440
Speaker 1: to I don't have to lead you there. You can

3047
02:55:03,520 --> 02:55:06,800
Speaker 1: go there yourself and get fulfilled. It's that's what it is.

3048
02:55:06,959 --> 02:55:08,760
Speaker 1: That's what it is. I do what I do. I've

3049
02:55:08,760 --> 02:55:11,560
Speaker 1: been doing what I've done for roughly twenty years at

3050
02:55:11,600 --> 02:55:13,920
Speaker 1: this point, and I'm doing it like I do it

3051
02:55:13,959 --> 02:55:17,320
Speaker 1: for TV. Goddamn it. That's what it is. I'm done.

3052
02:55:17,400 --> 02:55:21,760
Speaker 1: You gotta make some noise for that. My last question,

3053
02:55:23,160 --> 02:55:27,800
Speaker 1: let it go? That's that worldwide music which one? Let

3054
02:55:27,879 --> 02:55:32,760
Speaker 1: it go? Let it go? Uh, how's it dance go?

3055
02:55:34,920 --> 02:55:37,560
Speaker 1: I ain't mad? I ain't Madsten, you bring your sh

3056
02:55:37,600 --> 02:55:39,000
Speaker 1: it out of me. Did you get a thug to

3057
02:55:39,040 --> 02:55:41,960
Speaker 1: put his hands up perfect? He didn't say. He did

3058
02:55:42,040 --> 02:55:46,200
Speaker 1: something like that and a purpose. So yeah, I see

3059
02:55:48,840 --> 02:55:59,280
Speaker 1: easy music. He sent me just move altering, just and

3060
02:55:59,520 --> 02:56:05,120
Speaker 1: he may he's always on time. I make ship. You

3061
02:56:05,200 --> 02:56:07,720
Speaker 1: work out for me, y'all. He told me, this is

3062
02:56:07,920 --> 02:56:15,280
Speaker 1: this is the key to make it to making girl music. Listen,

3063
02:56:15,320 --> 02:56:17,520
Speaker 1: this is this is the big thing. I can't. I

3064
02:56:17,640 --> 02:56:20,959
Speaker 1: can't make a girl record if it hurt. I can

3065
02:56:21,040 --> 02:56:24,280
Speaker 1: help you. I love you at least one girl can

3066
02:56:24,360 --> 02:56:27,720
Speaker 1: help you record. I can help you listen. I'm okay,

3067
02:56:27,760 --> 02:56:29,080
Speaker 1: so let me let me work this out for you.

3068
02:56:29,240 --> 02:56:31,920
Speaker 1: Let me please. If any woman on the planet has

3069
02:56:32,040 --> 02:56:35,800
Speaker 1: ever danced to a to a Noriega record, you can

3070
02:56:35,879 --> 02:56:39,240
Speaker 1: make a girl record girl. Because they funk with your voice,

3071
02:56:39,280 --> 02:56:41,480
Speaker 1: They funk with your tone, they funk with your vibe.

3072
02:56:41,920 --> 02:56:44,039
Speaker 1: You just need to You just need somebody to step

3073
02:56:44,080 --> 02:56:46,320
Speaker 1: in and remind them that they funk with your vibe.

3074
02:56:46,360 --> 02:56:48,560
Speaker 1: It's like, no, you know this vibe, mind them that

3075
02:56:48,640 --> 02:56:51,600
Speaker 1: I'm a finger pop straight up? Shut up? May me

3076
02:56:51,680 --> 02:57:01,280
Speaker 1: stop there, shut up. I can gonna word. No, no, no,

3077
02:57:02,879 --> 02:57:05,199
Speaker 1: we got great. Well, we don't find a fly away

3078
02:57:05,280 --> 02:57:08,680
Speaker 1: to express to get you the finger pop. You don't

3079
02:57:08,720 --> 02:57:15,720
Speaker 1: find a fly away to let it be. No, oh, guys,

3080
02:57:16,280 --> 02:57:23,080
Speaker 1: I'm joining aboutself and always singing my light along like

3081
02:57:23,200 --> 02:57:25,560
Speaker 1: I don't know if let me my light back. But

3082
02:57:27,080 --> 02:57:29,680
Speaker 1: he don't inject you. He's been on some smooth, army

3083
02:57:29,800 --> 02:57:38,760
Speaker 1: ship thinking that I see you y'all came around, But

3084
02:57:38,920 --> 02:57:45,160
Speaker 1: you made a record called mad, Yes, absolutely did. Why

3085
02:57:45,280 --> 02:57:48,960
Speaker 1: were you mad? I wasn't mad. I was telling her

3086
02:57:49,040 --> 02:57:53,720
Speaker 1: that I find it sexy when she's mad. That's director.

3087
02:57:56,040 --> 02:57:57,680
Speaker 1: Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait

3088
02:57:57,720 --> 02:57:59,520
Speaker 1: wait wait wait wait wait, let me get that right. So,

3089
02:57:59,720 --> 02:58:03,920
Speaker 1: because so there's two records. There's mad and then there's

3090
02:58:04,280 --> 02:58:07,160
Speaker 1: when You're mad. When You're mad is a joint the

3091
02:58:07,240 --> 02:58:09,959
Speaker 1: telling the check that she's sexy when she's mad, because

3092
02:58:09,959 --> 02:58:13,720
Speaker 1: I remember, I recall the female that I wrote the

3093
02:58:13,800 --> 02:58:18,040
Speaker 1: song about, like she was about three ft tall, itty bitty, right,

3094
02:58:18,720 --> 02:58:21,160
Speaker 1: but she was a little firecracker. So whenever she would

3095
02:58:21,160 --> 02:58:25,040
Speaker 1: get whenever she would get upset, like crinkle her nose up,

3096
02:58:25,120 --> 02:58:27,160
Speaker 1: like like she was a little thug. But it's like

3097
02:58:27,480 --> 02:58:29,680
Speaker 1: like three ft tall, your three ft tall, cut it out.

3098
02:58:29,959 --> 02:58:32,080
Speaker 1: So it was just beautiful, right, it was. I just

3099
02:58:32,240 --> 02:58:34,920
Speaker 1: really used to get off on what she would look

3100
02:58:34,959 --> 02:58:36,720
Speaker 1: at me like when she was upset. So that's where

3101
02:58:36,720 --> 02:58:44,840
Speaker 1: that's saying. That's pretty much pretty much pretty much, man, Listen.

3102
02:58:45,320 --> 02:58:50,000
Speaker 1: I've always been I've always been a fan of convenience,

3103
02:58:50,440 --> 02:58:52,240
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. If I if I can

3104
02:58:52,320 --> 02:58:55,039
Speaker 1: just stand where I'm at and you can stand where

3105
02:58:55,080 --> 02:58:57,920
Speaker 1: you're at and get it going, that's that's convenient for everyone,

3106
02:58:58,160 --> 02:59:01,280
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Thing became her, So that

3107
02:59:01,440 --> 02:59:05,520
Speaker 1: was that's when You're mad. Mad is a whole other

3108
02:59:05,600 --> 02:59:08,800
Speaker 1: song talking about being in a relationship and not going

3109
02:59:08,879 --> 02:59:12,840
Speaker 1: to bed mad at a situation same person. No, that's

3110
02:59:12,840 --> 02:59:15,880
Speaker 1: a different persons difference. Now this this person. You're in

3111
02:59:15,959 --> 02:59:18,960
Speaker 1: a relationship with this person, and the whole concept of

3112
02:59:19,480 --> 02:59:22,039
Speaker 1: y'all beefing and you go to bed with the beef

3113
02:59:22,120 --> 02:59:24,880
Speaker 1: still hot, like that's not cool. That ship ain't cool.

3114
02:59:25,280 --> 02:59:27,520
Speaker 1: Nobody wants to wake up beef and I don't want cool.

3115
02:59:28,080 --> 02:59:29,960
Speaker 1: I don't want that. So I've always been I've always

3116
02:59:29,959 --> 02:59:32,360
Speaker 1: been the cat. Like, listen, let's try to figure this

3117
02:59:32,360 --> 02:59:35,920
Speaker 1: ship out right now. Let's let's find the resolution right now,

3118
02:59:36,080 --> 02:59:38,720
Speaker 1: as opposed to going to sleeping on it and waking

3119
02:59:38,800 --> 02:59:41,240
Speaker 1: up tomorrow still funked up, trying to figure out what

3120
02:59:41,280 --> 02:59:42,800
Speaker 1: we're doing. I don't want to do that. I don't

3121
02:59:42,800 --> 02:59:44,600
Speaker 1: want to do that. Let's figure out what we're doing

3122
02:59:44,720 --> 02:59:51,520
Speaker 1: right now. That's me again. Okay, you take a picture

3123
02:59:54,480 --> 02:59:59,000
Speaker 1: process like in the movie Stoping the Haitian. There wasn't

3124
02:59:59,240 --> 03:00:02,279
Speaker 1: any haze process. They didn't didn't hit you with the paddle.

3125
03:00:02,400 --> 03:00:06,560
Speaker 1: I will say this. I moved to Atlanta after I

3126
03:00:06,640 --> 03:00:10,680
Speaker 1: shot from Vegas. From Vegas, I moved to after shot

3127
03:00:10,720 --> 03:00:14,600
Speaker 1: Stumped Yard. Yeah I did. I was not aware of

3128
03:00:15,360 --> 03:00:19,320
Speaker 1: a place where every female that I came in contact

3129
03:00:19,400 --> 03:00:23,880
Speaker 1: with had just the most amazing and most beautiful ass

3130
03:00:24,000 --> 03:00:27,000
Speaker 1: I've ever seen in life until I came to Atlanta

3131
03:00:27,280 --> 03:00:29,640
Speaker 1: to shoot Stump the Yard. So I moved there after

3132
03:00:29,720 --> 03:00:33,199
Speaker 1: we shot the film, and rightfully, so, okay, I'm gonna

3133
03:00:33,200 --> 03:00:41,360
Speaker 1: go yearn it I bury back. So there wasn't no hazing,

3134
03:00:42,200 --> 03:00:45,879
Speaker 1: no hazing, not not for something to Yard the Canada

3135
03:00:46,360 --> 03:00:51,200
Speaker 1: inviolate you. Nick Cannon was not there. Yard was not

3136
03:00:51,320 --> 03:01:01,080
Speaker 1: Nick thinking drum It's okay, it happened. You know. Cats

3137
03:01:01,160 --> 03:01:04,680
Speaker 1: regularly run up and me like, Yo, you was doping drumline.

3138
03:01:05,560 --> 03:01:16,760
Speaker 1: I don't but you was doping drumline. You killed that.

3139
03:01:19,480 --> 03:01:25,560
Speaker 1: Oh good man, let's talk about that. Good Man the

3140
03:01:25,720 --> 03:01:33,080
Speaker 1: album's song the Whole Night. Yes, uh, because I'm a

3141
03:01:33,120 --> 03:01:36,320
Speaker 1: good man. I believe you, Yes, please believe that. Genuinely

3142
03:01:36,400 --> 03:01:40,120
Speaker 1: believe you. I believe that you can't be a good

3143
03:01:40,200 --> 03:01:43,360
Speaker 1: man without exploring what it is to not be a

3144
03:01:43,440 --> 03:01:48,600
Speaker 1: good man. You need the contrast, you need it. You know, Um,

3145
03:01:49,480 --> 03:01:51,440
Speaker 1: it's not a chore to be a bad man. That's

3146
03:01:51,520 --> 03:01:53,840
Speaker 1: just easy. You know, it's easy. To run around and

3147
03:01:53,920 --> 03:01:55,840
Speaker 1: just doing whatever fun did you want to do because

3148
03:01:55,879 --> 03:01:59,400
Speaker 1: you want to do it. The chore is to be

3149
03:01:59,720 --> 03:02:04,480
Speaker 1: a good man. It requires disciplines, it requires restraint, it

3150
03:02:04,600 --> 03:02:07,240
Speaker 1: requires self control. You know what I'm saying something that

3151
03:02:08,000 --> 03:02:10,879
Speaker 1: is raring us. You know, just as a human being.

3152
03:02:11,000 --> 03:02:16,240
Speaker 1: As a human being, we pick desire over necessity all

3153
03:02:16,320 --> 03:02:19,520
Speaker 1: day long. You know what I'm saying. This ship you

3154
03:02:19,680 --> 03:02:22,520
Speaker 1: want to do versus the ship you need to do

3155
03:02:23,360 --> 03:02:25,800
Speaker 1: all day long, you pick the ship you want to do, right,

3156
03:02:26,320 --> 03:02:30,760
Speaker 1: you know, So so to to to on purpose say

3157
03:02:31,680 --> 03:02:33,640
Speaker 1: this is what I want to do, but this is

3158
03:02:33,720 --> 03:02:36,360
Speaker 1: what I should do. And then to do what you

3159
03:02:36,520 --> 03:02:40,040
Speaker 1: should do. That's that's a thing. That's a thing you

3160
03:02:40,160 --> 03:02:44,840
Speaker 1: can't you can't overlook that like it's small, because it's

3161
03:02:44,920 --> 03:02:47,960
Speaker 1: not small. Because again, people do what they want to

3162
03:02:48,000 --> 03:02:51,280
Speaker 1: do all day long, men and women, men and women,

3163
03:02:51,360 --> 03:02:54,840
Speaker 1: all right, they ain't just us. Ain't just us. So

3164
03:02:56,000 --> 03:03:00,040
Speaker 1: to have the to have the level of discipline to

3165
03:03:00,120 --> 03:03:01,959
Speaker 1: do what you're supposed to do versus what you want

3166
03:03:02,000 --> 03:03:05,160
Speaker 1: to do, that's something that should be celebrated, you know.

3167
03:03:05,560 --> 03:03:09,400
Speaker 1: And and anybody acting holy er than now, to hell

3168
03:03:09,520 --> 03:03:11,880
Speaker 1: with you, because because you can't sit here and act

3169
03:03:11,959 --> 03:03:14,600
Speaker 1: like I'm not telling the truth just because it's anotherly,

3170
03:03:14,640 --> 03:03:19,320
Speaker 1: truth is still the truth, see the truth. So you

3171
03:03:19,440 --> 03:03:23,440
Speaker 1: also made a record where you said don't love Me. Yeah,

3172
03:03:23,760 --> 03:03:28,400
Speaker 1: so the new album self Explanatory. Um, the song don't

3173
03:03:28,480 --> 03:03:31,880
Speaker 1: love Me? I wrote that, mind you. It didn't start

3174
03:03:31,920 --> 03:03:34,920
Speaker 1: out as a song. It started out as a letter.

3175
03:03:35,280 --> 03:03:37,440
Speaker 1: There's a letter that I wrote to my wife. And

3176
03:03:37,720 --> 03:03:40,520
Speaker 1: feel like you expressed yourself more when you write it down. Yeah,

3177
03:03:40,680 --> 03:03:43,040
Speaker 1: I've always been better writing it down, like to to

3178
03:03:43,160 --> 03:03:45,560
Speaker 1: speak it out in the in the in the heat

3179
03:03:45,600 --> 03:03:47,160
Speaker 1: of the moment. You know what I'm saying. When you

3180
03:03:47,320 --> 03:03:50,200
Speaker 1: she pissed off and you pissed off, but you're still

3181
03:03:50,280 --> 03:03:52,279
Speaker 1: trying to figure out a way to get your point across.

3182
03:03:52,720 --> 03:03:55,160
Speaker 1: I've never been good at that ship And and I've

3183
03:03:55,240 --> 03:03:58,400
Speaker 1: always been the cat to say, know myself, know what

3184
03:03:58,560 --> 03:04:00,320
Speaker 1: you're not good at, know what you are good at.

3185
03:04:00,360 --> 03:04:04,480
Speaker 1: Work towards your strengths, work on your your weaknesses. Right. So,

3186
03:04:05,200 --> 03:04:08,880
Speaker 1: if I know that I can't in the moment say

3187
03:04:08,959 --> 03:04:11,879
Speaker 1: this to you and get it across to you, I'm

3188
03:04:11,920 --> 03:04:14,240
Speaker 1: gonna fall back. I'm a retreat for the moment, and

3189
03:04:14,280 --> 03:04:17,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna write it down right. So that song, that

3190
03:04:17,440 --> 03:04:19,640
Speaker 1: particular song started out as a letter that I wrote

3191
03:04:19,680 --> 03:04:23,560
Speaker 1: to my wife basically saying to her, I know you

3192
03:04:23,680 --> 03:04:27,400
Speaker 1: want to be here, but I don't think that you

3193
03:04:27,440 --> 03:04:29,640
Speaker 1: should be here because I don't think that I can

3194
03:04:29,760 --> 03:04:33,320
Speaker 1: be the kind of man that you deserve, you know

3195
03:04:33,360 --> 03:04:36,320
Speaker 1: what I mean. And it takes a level of vulnerability,

3196
03:04:36,400 --> 03:04:39,480
Speaker 1: it takes a level of just just kind of taking

3197
03:04:39,560 --> 03:04:42,960
Speaker 1: pride off the table to even come to that realization,

3198
03:04:43,800 --> 03:04:45,720
Speaker 1: you know. So, so it's it's a it's a it's

3199
03:04:45,760 --> 03:04:48,400
Speaker 1: a no viself moment, Like if you you're in a

3200
03:04:48,480 --> 03:04:52,080
Speaker 1: relationship with somebody and you definitely dig that somebody, but

3201
03:04:52,240 --> 03:04:54,920
Speaker 1: you know in your heart of hearts and in your

3202
03:04:54,959 --> 03:04:57,520
Speaker 1: mind of minds that you're not gonna do what that

3203
03:04:57,640 --> 03:05:01,240
Speaker 1: somebody wants you to do. So so I'm sorry because

3204
03:05:01,280 --> 03:05:03,760
Speaker 1: it's not It's probably the realest questional party asked on

3205
03:05:03,840 --> 03:05:06,520
Speaker 1: this show. So at one point, because this this is

3206
03:05:06,640 --> 03:05:09,360
Speaker 1: this is ill, you felt like you couldn't be there

3207
03:05:09,400 --> 03:05:11,160
Speaker 1: for your wife so much that you was willing to

3208
03:05:11,240 --> 03:05:17,000
Speaker 1: give her away, not give her away, but in the

3209
03:05:17,120 --> 03:05:21,200
Speaker 1: relationship because I knew that I was hurting her. I

3210
03:05:21,320 --> 03:05:23,520
Speaker 1: knew that the person that I was in the moment

3211
03:05:24,160 --> 03:05:27,680
Speaker 1: was hurting her and I was so enthralled, and being

3212
03:05:27,760 --> 03:05:32,360
Speaker 1: that person that I was, I looked at it like,

3213
03:05:32,400 --> 03:05:34,680
Speaker 1: all right, me being this person is hurting her to

3214
03:05:34,760 --> 03:05:36,879
Speaker 1: the point where I'll let her go before I allowed

3215
03:05:36,959 --> 03:05:40,280
Speaker 1: myself to continue hurting her, you know what I mean?

3216
03:05:41,000 --> 03:05:43,560
Speaker 1: And and and so all right, So so here's the flip.

3217
03:05:43,680 --> 03:05:46,840
Speaker 1: Here's the flip, because that was that was honest on me.

3218
03:05:46,959 --> 03:05:49,480
Speaker 1: I was being honest. But at the end of the

3219
03:05:49,520 --> 03:05:52,680
Speaker 1: same day, we just discussed how we choose desire over

3220
03:05:52,800 --> 03:05:56,720
Speaker 1: necessity all day long. Right, So here's what she here's

3221
03:05:56,720 --> 03:05:59,920
Speaker 1: what her response to that was. Okay, so you tell

3222
03:06:00,040 --> 03:06:03,800
Speaker 1: of me that you can't be this person. Is it

3223
03:06:03,920 --> 03:06:06,440
Speaker 1: that you can't be this person? Or is it that

3224
03:06:06,600 --> 03:06:10,160
Speaker 1: you won't be this person? Because it's not like there's

3225
03:06:10,240 --> 03:06:13,320
Speaker 1: somebody physically holding you back from being this person. Like

3226
03:06:13,480 --> 03:06:16,880
Speaker 1: it's it's all decision. It's what you decide to be,

3227
03:06:17,160 --> 03:06:19,920
Speaker 1: is who you decide to be, is what you decide

3228
03:06:19,959 --> 03:06:22,840
Speaker 1: to do versus what you decide to not do. So

3229
03:06:22,959 --> 03:06:25,080
Speaker 1: it's all on you. So if you have told me

3230
03:06:25,160 --> 03:06:26,920
Speaker 1: that you can't be this person, you're telling me that

3231
03:06:27,040 --> 03:06:31,360
Speaker 1: there's something outside of you that is preventing you from

3232
03:06:31,400 --> 03:06:35,240
Speaker 1: being this person. It's either that or it's not that

3233
03:06:35,400 --> 03:06:39,000
Speaker 1: you can't be this person, is that you won't be

3234
03:06:39,200 --> 03:06:43,040
Speaker 1: this person because again, it's all decision based, So you're

3235
03:06:43,120 --> 03:06:47,240
Speaker 1: deciding to not be who you know I need. That's

3236
03:06:47,360 --> 03:06:50,040
Speaker 1: that's a decision that you're making. And if that's the

3237
03:06:50,720 --> 03:06:53,000
Speaker 1: decision you're making, then yeah, we should get a divorce.

3238
03:06:55,920 --> 03:06:58,280
Speaker 1: I have too from a relationship prior to from up

3239
03:06:58,600 --> 03:07:00,520
Speaker 1: shout out to money, had a SHOT's mother, my two

3240
03:07:00,560 --> 03:07:03,480
Speaker 1: oldest children, it's my home girls, my folks, and then

3241
03:07:03,600 --> 03:07:06,760
Speaker 1: we have three together, me and my wife Crystal. Yeah,

3242
03:07:07,680 --> 03:07:11,360
Speaker 1: so it but it literally took her pointing that out

3243
03:07:11,400 --> 03:07:15,520
Speaker 1: to me for me to realize, Yo, I'm I'm I'm lightweight,

3244
03:07:15,600 --> 03:07:18,840
Speaker 1: trying to cop out right now, and she's not letting me.

3245
03:07:19,879 --> 03:07:23,880
Speaker 1: She's not letting me cop out. Like there's something to that, man,

3246
03:07:23,879 --> 03:07:26,720
Speaker 1: you gotta pay attention to that, Like this woman's love

3247
03:07:26,800 --> 03:07:29,000
Speaker 1: for you was so strong that she's not allowing you

3248
03:07:30,400 --> 03:07:33,320
Speaker 1: to be a fucking coward right now. She's not allowing

3249
03:07:33,360 --> 03:07:36,400
Speaker 1: you to do that. You know, she's holding you accountable

3250
03:07:36,840 --> 03:07:38,840
Speaker 1: and making you stand up for what it is as

3251
03:07:38,879 --> 03:07:40,960
Speaker 1: you truly want, If you want to be that, Go

3252
03:07:41,200 --> 03:07:44,160
Speaker 1: be that, and that's that. But don't tell me that

3253
03:07:44,280 --> 03:07:46,000
Speaker 1: you want to be over here but you don't feel

3254
03:07:46,040 --> 03:07:49,240
Speaker 1: like you can, because that's bullshit. If you want to

3255
03:07:49,320 --> 03:07:53,080
Speaker 1: be here, you're gonna be here. And that's what that's

3256
03:07:53,120 --> 03:07:54,920
Speaker 1: the reality of it, and that's the reason that we

3257
03:07:54,959 --> 03:07:57,680
Speaker 1: see together because you can't you can't come across somebody

3258
03:07:57,840 --> 03:08:01,920
Speaker 1: that is that enlightened and that willing to hold you

3259
03:08:02,000 --> 03:08:04,560
Speaker 1: accountable on your bullsheet, even at the level that you are,

3260
03:08:04,680 --> 03:08:08,360
Speaker 1: like a nigga, I'm I'm I'm the breadwinner. I take

3261
03:08:08,400 --> 03:08:10,840
Speaker 1: care of my family, period. No one has to worry

3262
03:08:11,080 --> 03:08:15,800
Speaker 1: or about anything because of me. Right, So there's a

3263
03:08:15,920 --> 03:08:17,920
Speaker 1: level of me that says within myself that I'm within

3264
03:08:18,040 --> 03:08:19,440
Speaker 1: my right to do whatever the funk I want to

3265
03:08:19,520 --> 03:08:21,000
Speaker 1: do because of the fact that I take care of

3266
03:08:21,080 --> 03:08:26,200
Speaker 1: everybody in my family. You feel that, but at the

3267
03:08:26,320 --> 03:08:30,000
Speaker 1: same time, but at the same time, you decided to

3268
03:08:30,080 --> 03:08:32,760
Speaker 1: be married, you decided to take that choice, you decided

3269
03:08:32,760 --> 03:08:36,800
Speaker 1: to take that step. That is you saying that though

3270
03:08:36,920 --> 03:08:40,200
Speaker 1: you understand, you have the right to do whatever the

3271
03:08:40,280 --> 03:08:41,760
Speaker 1: funk you want to do, whatever the funk you want

3272
03:08:41,760 --> 03:08:44,120
Speaker 1: to do, because you provide for your whole family, You

3273
03:08:44,160 --> 03:08:49,800
Speaker 1: are deciding to consider the emotions and feelings and concern

3274
03:08:49,879 --> 03:08:52,960
Speaker 1: of another person. You're you're you're deciding to do that

3275
03:08:53,520 --> 03:08:57,160
Speaker 1: to choice that you're making to then turn around and

3276
03:08:57,280 --> 03:08:59,440
Speaker 1: like be to then turn around and and and to

3277
03:08:59,560 --> 03:09:03,120
Speaker 1: be fun up towards that, Like it's it's it's like,

3278
03:09:03,720 --> 03:09:06,039
Speaker 1: it's like you sucking yourself. Fuck you know what I mean.

3279
03:09:06,959 --> 03:09:11,080
Speaker 1: It's self destructive self understand mind you, I don't never,

3280
03:09:11,280 --> 03:09:12,760
Speaker 1: I don't rever want of my mother fucker to feel like.

3281
03:09:12,959 --> 03:09:16,240
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is that it's not it's easy. Na.

3282
03:09:16,959 --> 03:09:20,600
Speaker 1: Of course, temptation wouldn't be temptation if it wasn't difficult.

3283
03:09:20,720 --> 03:09:24,360
Speaker 1: Like that's the reason that it's called what it's called temptation. Yeah,

3284
03:09:25,440 --> 03:09:27,280
Speaker 1: but there's a point in life where you gotta be like,

3285
03:09:27,440 --> 03:09:31,720
Speaker 1: all right, do I genuinely care about this person? If

3286
03:09:31,959 --> 03:09:34,480
Speaker 1: and if I genuinely care about this person, am I

3287
03:09:34,600 --> 03:09:37,040
Speaker 1: going to continue doing the ship that I know is

3288
03:09:37,160 --> 03:09:41,560
Speaker 1: genuinely hurting me? As person? You have to outmaneuver temptation

3289
03:09:41,600 --> 03:09:44,960
Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, you know what, what what tempts you? Indeed?

3290
03:09:45,280 --> 03:09:49,480
Speaker 1: Get out that absolutely absolutely? But see but see so

3291
03:09:49,920 --> 03:10:02,119
Speaker 1: does it does a concept? Oh no, only anybody that's

3292
03:10:02,160 --> 03:10:05,440
Speaker 1: never seen Neo's head, and it's just just it's just

3293
03:10:05,520 --> 03:10:08,600
Speaker 1: a big gas head. The baby. That's it. That's it.

3294
03:10:09,240 --> 03:10:12,800
Speaker 1: Ain't nothing wrong and no bucals and a weird tree.

3295
03:10:15,520 --> 03:10:32,520
Speaker 1: That's all it is. If m m m m damn,

3296
03:10:32,600 --> 03:10:35,480
Speaker 1: my brother, you Yo, you really allegend, though, Bro, you

3297
03:10:35,600 --> 03:10:38,640
Speaker 1: really allegend. You really kept it to the R and

3298
03:10:38,720 --> 03:10:44,080
Speaker 1: B core. If you know what's strange, I'm gonna tell

3299
03:10:44,080 --> 03:10:52,600
Speaker 1: you my my compliment has changed so like now like

3300
03:10:53,120 --> 03:10:54,960
Speaker 1: people will run up on me and be like, yo,

3301
03:10:56,000 --> 03:10:59,920
Speaker 1: you were my entire high school career, like my entire

3302
03:11:00,120 --> 03:11:08,880
Speaker 1: high school experience was you. I'm forty two right names.

3303
03:11:10,320 --> 03:11:15,119
Speaker 1: But I have to accept that that is a compliment

3304
03:11:15,280 --> 03:11:17,960
Speaker 1: for nigger to be like, yo, you thought it wasn't

3305
03:11:18,640 --> 03:11:21,000
Speaker 1: I loved Jim music since I was eleven years old,

3306
03:11:21,080 --> 03:11:25,280
Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh shit, oh wow, can I stop

3307
03:11:25,320 --> 03:11:26,560
Speaker 1: you for one second. Let me just tell you what

3308
03:11:26,680 --> 03:11:29,320
Speaker 1: niggas tell me, Like I did a big to your ship.

3309
03:11:29,440 --> 03:11:35,120
Speaker 1: That's fucked up. Why don't you're like back in the day,

3310
03:11:35,240 --> 03:11:38,240
Speaker 1: let's be like world up. I'm like, I'm like, my nigger,

3311
03:11:38,280 --> 03:11:41,400
Speaker 1: do I owe you someone? Like why didn't you want

3312
03:11:41,480 --> 03:11:43,240
Speaker 1: didn't you go to jail for me? Why did you

3313
03:11:43,320 --> 03:11:51,520
Speaker 1: feel like you listen to my music? Music? So at

3314
03:11:51,560 --> 03:11:56,640
Speaker 1: least but they made mute, they made babies. Yeah, No,

3315
03:11:56,800 --> 03:12:01,039
Speaker 1: it's just I feel like the music industry is very

3316
03:12:01,120 --> 03:12:05,800
Speaker 1: good at, uh hiding from you, from you the fact

3317
03:12:05,879 --> 03:12:11,400
Speaker 1: that you were aging. They're forty two years old. That

3318
03:12:11,520 --> 03:12:19,200
Speaker 1: listener after her, he agent, you're looking good. No no, no, no,

3319
03:12:19,320 --> 03:12:22,280
Speaker 1: no no, no, I'm nothing. I'm handsome as funk. I

3320
03:12:22,360 --> 03:12:25,680
Speaker 1: know that, say that. I say that with zero ego.

3321
03:12:25,720 --> 03:12:30,000
Speaker 1: I'm a beautiful motherfucker. What I'm saying is to know

3322
03:12:30,320 --> 03:12:32,960
Speaker 1: that my album came out and like, oh what it was?

3323
03:12:33,080 --> 03:12:37,640
Speaker 1: Oh six oh six were in you know what I'm saying,

3324
03:12:37,760 --> 03:12:41,560
Speaker 1: Like he came out of oh six were two years after?

3325
03:12:41,680 --> 03:12:49,200
Speaker 1: I don't know, and you know your officiology. But yeah,

3326
03:12:49,440 --> 03:12:52,200
Speaker 1: so it's it's like I'm either uncle or o g now.

3327
03:12:53,240 --> 03:12:56,200
Speaker 1: And it's different. It's different from when I first came

3328
03:12:56,240 --> 03:12:58,520
Speaker 1: out and the love that I would get when I

3329
03:12:58,560 --> 03:13:00,560
Speaker 1: first came out versus the love that I get now.

3330
03:13:00,920 --> 03:13:03,720
Speaker 1: It's still loves, but it's a different kind of love.

3331
03:13:03,800 --> 03:13:06,240
Speaker 1: It's like I grew up to you the type of

3332
03:13:06,320 --> 03:13:10,680
Speaker 1: love and and I mean I guess it's just me.

3333
03:13:11,040 --> 03:13:13,400
Speaker 1: Like when I'm in the moment, when I'm moving to shaking,

3334
03:13:13,840 --> 03:13:16,560
Speaker 1: I don't realize the time this passing. Like Nigga, we

3335
03:13:16,720 --> 03:13:21,400
Speaker 1: we toured off of in my own work, not in

3336
03:13:21,440 --> 03:13:24,360
Speaker 1: my own words. You're the gentleman. We toured off a

3337
03:13:24,440 --> 03:13:27,640
Speaker 1: year to the general for three years straight. We're talking

3338
03:13:27,640 --> 03:13:33,840
Speaker 1: about this Niga on the road three years. You come

3339
03:13:33,879 --> 03:13:36,680
Speaker 1: home for two days and you back out like three

3340
03:13:36,800 --> 03:13:44,280
Speaker 1: years straight. Once that ship is done and you come

3341
03:13:44,360 --> 03:13:47,320
Speaker 1: home and it's like, oh, ship Nigga, we did win

3342
03:13:47,400 --> 03:13:50,360
Speaker 1: three Grammys. Oh ship Nigga. We did. We did sell

3343
03:13:50,440 --> 03:13:53,400
Speaker 1: this many records. Oh ship Nigga, we did do Wimbley

3344
03:13:53,440 --> 03:13:56,480
Speaker 1: Stadium eighty thousand. Motherfucker's jumping up and jumping up and

3345
03:13:56,520 --> 03:13:58,920
Speaker 1: down at the same time, Like you know what I'm saying,

3346
03:13:58,959 --> 03:14:02,040
Speaker 1: It hits you all at one moment, like yo, we

3347
03:14:02,200 --> 03:14:05,120
Speaker 1: have fucking we have made moves in this ship, but

3348
03:14:05,280 --> 03:14:09,600
Speaker 1: not until until you sit still. So to sit still now,

3349
03:14:09,720 --> 03:14:12,120
Speaker 1: it's like I'm forty two years old, you know what

3350
03:14:12,160 --> 03:14:16,360
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And I'll do these little walk through these

3351
03:14:16,400 --> 03:14:19,840
Speaker 1: little host things or whatever, and it's like a little

3352
03:14:19,920 --> 03:14:21,879
Speaker 1: chicks run up on me. Like, oh my god, I've

3353
03:14:21,920 --> 03:14:25,360
Speaker 1: loved you since I was twelve, and it's like, how

3354
03:14:25,400 --> 03:14:29,320
Speaker 1: do you take that? You know? I mean, it's love,

3355
03:14:29,560 --> 03:14:32,560
Speaker 1: She's given love. I've loved you since I was twelve,

3356
03:14:32,720 --> 03:14:34,960
Speaker 1: So sick came out when I was twelve years old.

3357
03:14:36,640 --> 03:14:40,520
Speaker 1: Fuck she's but listen, listen, you know how you take this.

3358
03:14:41,120 --> 03:14:43,640
Speaker 1: Let's let's think about the icons we've spoke about on

3359
03:14:43,760 --> 03:14:49,680
Speaker 1: the show already, the Stevie Wonders, the Bobby Browns, the

3360
03:14:49,800 --> 03:14:57,160
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson's, the Princess. It's generational. Age is age. We're

3361
03:14:57,280 --> 03:15:04,920
Speaker 1: all gonna age understand age to do it. That's no, no, no,

3362
03:15:05,080 --> 03:15:08,039
Speaker 1: that's reality. That's that's actually true. I'm like, yo, I'm

3363
03:15:08,080 --> 03:15:09,720
Speaker 1: not gonna try fuck it. This is good. I didn't

3364
03:15:09,720 --> 03:15:12,440
Speaker 1: think it was good white, but that's another story. Good,

3365
03:15:12,800 --> 03:15:15,880
Speaker 1: he's good. He's good. But it's true. It's ages, and

3366
03:15:16,000 --> 03:15:21,360
Speaker 1: that doesn't make sense. We're all do it. We want

3367
03:15:21,360 --> 03:15:24,039
Speaker 1: to be legend. Look and what we're doing in entertainment.

3368
03:15:24,640 --> 03:15:26,720
Speaker 1: Listen to the legends that we talked about, the icons

3369
03:15:26,760 --> 03:15:30,440
Speaker 1: we've spoken about. You can't let that bother you because

3370
03:15:30,480 --> 03:15:36,160
Speaker 1: you are leading to that icon status. You want to

3371
03:15:36,200 --> 03:15:40,640
Speaker 1: be that person that transcends generations, not that one eleven

3372
03:15:40,720 --> 03:15:42,680
Speaker 1: year old or that seventeen year old, or someone calls

3373
03:15:42,720 --> 03:15:46,200
Speaker 1: it o G. Someone calls you onto your own gole

3374
03:15:46,320 --> 03:15:50,600
Speaker 1: or whatever your fingers. That don't matter. M that's real.

3375
03:15:50,920 --> 03:15:54,560
Speaker 1: That's real with ticktok'll funk with TikTok. I have I

3376
03:15:54,640 --> 03:15:57,000
Speaker 1: have a I have a love hate relationship with TikTok.

3377
03:15:57,480 --> 03:16:01,000
Speaker 1: It feels say that because mind you, because of TikTok.

3378
03:16:02,200 --> 03:16:05,080
Speaker 1: My my record because of you is charting right now.

3379
03:16:05,360 --> 03:16:08,000
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. That's from my second fucking album.

3380
03:16:08,240 --> 03:16:10,600
Speaker 1: I've been here damn to twenty years. A song from

3381
03:16:10,640 --> 03:16:15,800
Speaker 1: my second album's charting because of TikTok because some little

3382
03:16:15,840 --> 03:16:19,160
Speaker 1: cats somewhere decided to get on there and and and

3383
03:16:19,360 --> 03:16:23,440
Speaker 1: and figure out to dance whatever to my ship. So

3384
03:16:23,600 --> 03:16:28,920
Speaker 1: I can't I can't ever, I can't what I'm saying,

3385
03:16:29,080 --> 03:16:31,280
Speaker 1: I can't ever feel a way about TikTok because that

3386
03:16:31,600 --> 03:16:36,440
Speaker 1: that reality is reality. However, at the same time, there

3387
03:16:36,480 --> 03:16:40,240
Speaker 1: are songs that I've discovered via TikTok. There's artists that

3388
03:16:40,360 --> 03:16:44,000
Speaker 1: I've discovered via TikTok, And it's like what happens more

3389
03:16:44,080 --> 03:16:47,040
Speaker 1: often than not is that you hear the song on

3390
03:16:47,120 --> 03:16:50,920
Speaker 1: TikTok for the first time, well whatever, you know, clever

3391
03:16:51,040 --> 03:16:55,360
Speaker 1: ass video or creative whatever, whatever the case may be.

3392
03:16:56,040 --> 03:16:58,920
Speaker 1: And then you go to Apple Music, you go to Spotify,

3393
03:16:59,120 --> 03:17:02,000
Speaker 1: pandor or whatever Top two, and you listen to the

3394
03:17:02,080 --> 03:17:06,200
Speaker 1: whole record and you realize the only part of the

3395
03:17:06,280 --> 03:17:14,480
Speaker 1: song that you like is the TikTok that is damaging there,

3396
03:17:14,760 --> 03:17:17,199
Speaker 1: that is damaging to the point where there's literally cats

3397
03:17:17,320 --> 03:17:22,000
Speaker 1: going to the studio creating records specifically for the TikTok.

3398
03:17:24,360 --> 03:17:27,360
Speaker 1: You get fifteen minutes of quality, you get thirty minutes

3399
03:17:27,400 --> 03:17:30,160
Speaker 1: of quality. Anything after that it don't even fucking matter

3400
03:17:30,360 --> 03:17:33,040
Speaker 1: because you got your fifteen seconds. You got your fifteen

3401
03:17:33,160 --> 03:17:35,840
Speaker 1: your thirty seconds, right, you know what I mean. So

3402
03:17:36,160 --> 03:17:40,720
Speaker 1: that's that's the love and hate again. I've discovered artists

3403
03:17:40,760 --> 03:17:45,120
Speaker 1: off of TikTok. I've discovered music off of TikTok. But

3404
03:17:45,240 --> 03:17:47,360
Speaker 1: at the same time, for a cat to go into

3405
03:17:47,440 --> 03:17:51,199
Speaker 1: the studio and create art based off of what based

3406
03:17:51,240 --> 03:17:55,840
Speaker 1: off of the boundaries that TikTok has created, that's a

3407
03:17:55,959 --> 03:17:59,119
Speaker 1: problem for me personally, you know what I mean, that's

3408
03:17:59,120 --> 03:18:02,640
Speaker 1: a problem for me. I had to accept the fact

3409
03:18:02,720 --> 03:18:08,840
Speaker 1: that as music evolves. Attentions fans are shorter. Now, so

3410
03:18:09,000 --> 03:18:11,080
Speaker 1: where you know, shout out to the boy, what's what's

3411
03:18:11,360 --> 03:18:15,000
Speaker 1: what's my boy? Cappella? Cappella Gray, what's his name? It's

3412
03:18:15,040 --> 03:18:20,240
Speaker 1: about the gallus Gallas. This is my palace. But I'm

3413
03:18:20,240 --> 03:18:23,240
Speaker 1: gonna do this song is like two songs amazing. Don't

3414
03:18:23,240 --> 03:18:26,400
Speaker 1: talk about shouted to the boy I made you Cappella Gray.

3415
03:18:26,520 --> 03:18:28,280
Speaker 1: I don't know his name. I'm whack. I'm right now,

3416
03:18:28,360 --> 03:18:31,080
Speaker 1: but shout out to him. But but that is just

3417
03:18:31,920 --> 03:18:35,279
Speaker 1: prime example of the fact that attention spans are shorter.

3418
03:18:35,480 --> 03:18:38,960
Speaker 1: Now that that's not a like for the standard of

3419
03:18:39,080 --> 03:18:41,720
Speaker 1: what a song is supposed to be. That's not a

3420
03:18:41,800 --> 03:18:45,840
Speaker 1: full So it's two it's two minutes, it's a two

3421
03:18:45,920 --> 03:18:53,320
Speaker 1: minute records shorter. Second, bro right, this is TikTok's This

3422
03:18:53,480 --> 03:18:59,040
Speaker 1: is TikTok's uh algorithm. Yeah, this is there, this is

3423
03:18:59,360 --> 03:19:03,000
Speaker 1: this is why it is what it is. TikTok text

3424
03:19:03,160 --> 03:19:06,800
Speaker 1: has created this to where anything over two minutes too long.

3425
03:19:07,879 --> 03:19:10,600
Speaker 1: Then they banked on the fact that attention spans are shorter,

3426
03:19:11,160 --> 03:19:14,560
Speaker 1: and they and and they played to that you get

3427
03:19:14,640 --> 03:19:18,720
Speaker 1: fifteen seconds. That does that make you make records different?

3428
03:19:19,920 --> 03:19:23,360
Speaker 1: Not me? That will make an artist make records different.

3429
03:19:23,760 --> 03:19:26,400
Speaker 1: But I don't make music specifically for TikTok. I make

3430
03:19:26,520 --> 03:19:29,640
Speaker 1: music for people. Now, if a person finds it within

3431
03:19:29,760 --> 03:19:32,560
Speaker 1: theirselfs to take fifteen seconds of a song that I

3432
03:19:32,640 --> 03:19:36,240
Speaker 1: created and do something TikTok to it, I'm not gonna

3433
03:19:36,280 --> 03:19:38,920
Speaker 1: stand in this way. But I will never go in

3434
03:19:38,959 --> 03:19:42,640
Speaker 1: the studio like, all right, let's create some records. I'm

3435
03:19:42,680 --> 03:19:47,400
Speaker 1: not that's I'm not doing that. I'm not doing I'm

3436
03:19:47,440 --> 03:19:50,320
Speaker 1: not doing Come on. I came in, but I came

3437
03:19:50,400 --> 03:19:52,960
Speaker 1: up in an era where Luther Andres could do a

3438
03:19:53,000 --> 03:19:55,480
Speaker 1: ten minutes song and he didn't realize it was ten

3439
03:19:55,480 --> 03:19:58,480
Speaker 1: minutes until it was over. You know I'm talking about

3440
03:19:58,959 --> 03:20:02,440
Speaker 1: because you was just in the whole time, every fun,

3441
03:20:02,640 --> 03:20:07,200
Speaker 1: every swell, every lyric, every every fucking uh violin lick

3442
03:20:07,480 --> 03:20:10,600
Speaker 1: whatever that you was in, and then the ship was over,

3443
03:20:10,720 --> 03:20:15,840
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh ship, but in minutes. That's where

3444
03:20:15,879 --> 03:20:19,400
Speaker 1: I come from. That's where I come from. And to

3445
03:20:19,520 --> 03:20:21,800
Speaker 1: truly get your point across, I'm sorry. Sometimes to take

3446
03:20:21,840 --> 03:20:23,800
Speaker 1: a look takes a little longer than two minutes. It

3447
03:20:23,879 --> 03:20:28,359
Speaker 1: takes a little longer than you know. In my opinion,

3448
03:20:29,120 --> 03:20:32,480
Speaker 1: it might be you need three verses. Yeah, at least

3449
03:20:32,959 --> 03:20:35,960
Speaker 1: at least so let me ask you out. When John

3450
03:20:36,080 --> 03:20:39,080
Speaker 1: comes to you, that actually about so he said Tanna earlier.

3451
03:20:39,320 --> 03:20:42,119
Speaker 1: I don't know if you called it. But Elton John

3452
03:20:42,640 --> 03:20:46,960
Speaker 1: comes to you, Old John says, I want you the

3453
03:20:47,040 --> 03:20:52,280
Speaker 1: writer record for me. But it gives you the subject matter.

3454
03:20:52,560 --> 03:20:55,720
Speaker 1: It's not necessarily something that you are part of your

3455
03:20:55,800 --> 03:20:59,320
Speaker 1: straight man. Yes, we want to stand there, but John

3456
03:20:59,440 --> 03:21:02,640
Speaker 1: want to go ranching right, he wanted to do that.

3457
03:21:03,000 --> 03:21:06,240
Speaker 1: How do you how do you go about saying, oh, John,

3458
03:21:06,320 --> 03:21:11,440
Speaker 1: I got you to be a To be a songwriter,

3459
03:21:12,680 --> 03:21:15,240
Speaker 1: to step out in front of the world and declare

3460
03:21:15,320 --> 03:21:20,160
Speaker 1: yourself a songwriter is to declare yourself a public servant,

3461
03:21:21,440 --> 03:21:25,119
Speaker 1: meaning I am a person that writes music for the world.

3462
03:21:25,720 --> 03:21:28,200
Speaker 1: I'm a person that writes music for the world to enjoy.

3463
03:21:28,840 --> 03:21:31,280
Speaker 1: If Elton John comes to me and says he wants

3464
03:21:31,360 --> 03:21:35,440
Speaker 1: to write a gay anthem, but I'm not gay. But

3465
03:21:35,560 --> 03:21:37,480
Speaker 1: he comes to me and says he likes the way

3466
03:21:37,560 --> 03:21:41,039
Speaker 1: that I use words, then I'm gonna jump in. I'm

3467
03:21:41,040 --> 03:21:43,640
Speaker 1: gonna jump in. And that's what it's that. That's that's

3468
03:21:43,640 --> 03:21:44,840
Speaker 1: what I try to get a lot of these young

3469
03:21:44,959 --> 03:21:49,960
Speaker 1: songwriters to understand. The more versaustl you are, the bigger

3470
03:21:50,000 --> 03:21:53,160
Speaker 1: the potential for your bag. If a gay artist comes

3471
03:21:53,160 --> 03:21:54,959
Speaker 1: to you and ask for a song and you're not gay,

3472
03:21:56,160 --> 03:21:58,240
Speaker 1: so what You're not gonna write the song doesn't mean

3473
03:21:58,280 --> 03:22:00,720
Speaker 1: you're The way you write it is for you, it's

3474
03:22:01,440 --> 03:22:04,119
Speaker 1: no you find you find a way to tap into

3475
03:22:04,320 --> 03:22:07,920
Speaker 1: their ship. You find a way. That's I got into songwriting.

3476
03:22:08,000 --> 03:22:12,120
Speaker 1: I can't friend about this. I got into songwriting because

3477
03:22:12,160 --> 03:22:15,440
Speaker 1: of the ability to not be me. There was a

3478
03:22:15,480 --> 03:22:17,400
Speaker 1: point in my life where I ain't want to be me.

3479
03:22:17,680 --> 03:22:19,560
Speaker 1: I ain't want to I ain't want my reality. I

3480
03:22:19,680 --> 03:22:23,680
Speaker 1: want any other reality but mine. Songwriting allows that. If

3481
03:22:23,680 --> 03:22:25,880
Speaker 1: I write a song for Beyonce in that moment, I'm

3482
03:22:25,959 --> 03:22:30,520
Speaker 1: sucking Beyonce, Goddamn, I'm I'm hurt, I'm here, I'm whoever

3483
03:22:30,640 --> 03:22:33,320
Speaker 1: the fuck? You know what I'm saying, I'm not I'm

3484
03:22:33,360 --> 03:22:38,440
Speaker 1: not me, And that was the the attraction to songwriting. Initially.

3485
03:22:38,560 --> 03:22:40,360
Speaker 1: I ain't want to be me for a minute. You

3486
03:22:40,400 --> 03:22:42,840
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It's it's it's it's it's deep,

3487
03:22:42,879 --> 03:22:44,800
Speaker 1: and it's darkness, dumb, and I don't want to go there.

3488
03:22:44,920 --> 03:22:47,160
Speaker 1: But there was a point in my life where anything

3489
03:22:47,320 --> 03:22:50,520
Speaker 1: outside of who I was was good for me, and

3490
03:22:50,680 --> 03:22:54,680
Speaker 1: that's what helped me really lock into songwriting, you know

3491
03:22:54,720 --> 03:22:57,480
Speaker 1: what I mean. So if you're writing for somebody other

3492
03:22:57,560 --> 03:23:00,920
Speaker 1: than yourself, you have to consider the fact that you're

3493
03:23:00,959 --> 03:23:05,240
Speaker 1: writing for somebody other than you. This is not about

3494
03:23:06,160 --> 03:23:09,840
Speaker 1: a person that likes Mexican food and digs of color red. No,

3495
03:23:10,080 --> 03:23:13,720
Speaker 1: you're writing for somebody else. This is somebody outside of you.

3496
03:23:13,879 --> 03:23:17,280
Speaker 1: This motherfucker likes purple and and and fucking Italian food,

3497
03:23:17,320 --> 03:23:20,520
Speaker 1: whatever the fuck. Whatever the fuck, you lock into that

3498
03:23:20,680 --> 03:23:24,080
Speaker 1: and you're right from there. That's that's that's how I've

3499
03:23:24,120 --> 03:23:26,280
Speaker 1: always got it in and that ship is works for me.

3500
03:23:27,240 --> 03:23:30,440
Speaker 1: Anybody could come to you, anybody write a subject about

3501
03:23:30,440 --> 03:23:33,560
Speaker 1: anybody like abody, if a person like pistachio ice cream.

3502
03:23:34,080 --> 03:23:40,680
Speaker 1: M hm hm no, no, no, because I see what

3503
03:23:40,760 --> 03:23:43,880
Speaker 1: you're doing. Go and you have you ever had past

3504
03:23:44,560 --> 03:23:46,959
Speaker 1: I have. I'm not a fan. I'm not a fan.

3505
03:23:49,600 --> 03:23:53,360
Speaker 1: And Beyonce came to me and said, yo, I love

3506
03:23:53,520 --> 03:23:55,760
Speaker 1: pistachio ice cream and I want to sing about it.

3507
03:23:57,240 --> 03:24:00,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna writer. I don't write, just want to make

3508
03:24:00,720 --> 03:24:04,640
Speaker 1: you like pistachio ice cream. If you don't your cream.

3509
03:24:05,160 --> 03:24:08,520
Speaker 1: You will do something like it too. I'm gonna write

3510
03:24:08,560 --> 03:24:10,320
Speaker 1: this song to make you go yo. I ain't never

3511
03:24:10,400 --> 03:24:15,400
Speaker 1: had pistetio ice cream, but let's get some. I'm gonna

3512
03:24:15,400 --> 03:24:18,920
Speaker 1: write that record. That's that's the that's the mentality, you

3513
03:24:19,000 --> 03:24:21,199
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. That's that's what it is. Ice

3514
03:24:21,280 --> 03:24:23,959
Speaker 1: King in Queens, New York. That was y'all shout out

3515
03:24:23,959 --> 03:24:30,000
Speaker 1: because that's my favorite Italian excuse me, ice cream shout

3516
03:24:30,040 --> 03:24:36,320
Speaker 1: out for staff your ice cream. I'm sorry, well I would, Yes,

3517
03:24:36,959 --> 03:24:38,960
Speaker 1: you want to smoke a blood with me, I've been

3518
03:24:39,800 --> 03:24:43,520
Speaker 1: I've been smoking a blood. Let's smoke a blood together,

3519
03:24:43,760 --> 03:24:47,360
Speaker 1: real blood. Give my blood blood. Listen. I came here

3520
03:24:47,440 --> 03:24:53,440
Speaker 1: from the airport, right, we try to give straight here.

3521
03:24:54,480 --> 03:24:56,680
Speaker 1: The newcases in the back room over there, all right, okay,

3522
03:24:57,040 --> 03:25:01,840
Speaker 1: funk with y'all. It's like funk with y'all. I just

3523
03:25:02,200 --> 03:25:04,800
Speaker 1: I've worked hard enough in this business to be like, hey,

3524
03:25:05,280 --> 03:25:08,320
Speaker 1: I understand y'all got a time frame, but I'm gonna

3525
03:25:08,320 --> 03:25:10,840
Speaker 1: go to the hotel and get my ships straight and

3526
03:25:10,879 --> 03:25:14,280
Speaker 1: get him with y'all. I've worked hard enough to you

3527
03:25:14,680 --> 03:25:26,120
Speaker 1: to demand that. Came here the airport when job you

3528
03:25:26,240 --> 03:25:28,280
Speaker 1: know why you know why, I'm gonna be honest. Man,

3529
03:25:28,720 --> 03:25:31,400
Speaker 1: were so artists friendly, were so artists basic, and we

3530
03:25:31,520 --> 03:25:34,640
Speaker 1: so the thing about it is, I've lived this life

3531
03:25:34,879 --> 03:25:38,360
Speaker 1: that you're living. I lived it, and I want to

3532
03:25:38,480 --> 03:25:40,960
Speaker 1: I want to salute it, like I love this life

3533
03:25:41,000 --> 03:25:43,880
Speaker 1: so much. Has changed my life. Like I literally had

3534
03:25:44,000 --> 03:25:45,880
Speaker 1: six months to find a job when I came home

3535
03:25:45,920 --> 03:25:49,600
Speaker 1: from jail, and my job that I found was hip hop.

3536
03:25:51,080 --> 03:25:53,880
Speaker 1: That's saved my life. So this is my way of

3537
03:25:53,959 --> 03:25:56,440
Speaker 1: giving back, And this is my way of seeing people

3538
03:25:56,520 --> 03:26:01,240
Speaker 1: like you, you know who came up probably after me,

3539
03:26:01,840 --> 03:26:05,760
Speaker 1: but you came up and you got that. You deserve

3540
03:26:05,840 --> 03:26:08,840
Speaker 1: your flowers, You deserved people to tell you how great

3541
03:26:08,920 --> 03:26:11,880
Speaker 1: you are to your motherfucking face. And I'm gonna do it.

3542
03:26:12,360 --> 03:26:14,480
Speaker 1: And then you don't take nothing away from me. I

3543
03:26:14,520 --> 03:26:16,560
Speaker 1: don't take nothing. I'm still I'm still the ill nigger

3544
03:26:16,600 --> 03:26:20,520
Speaker 1: that I am. But to tell you that motherfucking Neo

3545
03:26:20,640 --> 03:26:28,840
Speaker 1: is a motherfucking and all the ship you did and

3546
03:26:29,240 --> 03:26:31,920
Speaker 1: continue to do, and all the artists that you work with.

3547
03:26:32,000 --> 03:26:34,400
Speaker 1: When I looked at your discography, and I looked at

3548
03:26:34,440 --> 03:26:36,280
Speaker 1: because you know that's what I do. I google, but

3549
03:26:36,360 --> 03:26:38,920
Speaker 1: I like I like Foogo it's not like really Google,

3550
03:26:39,000 --> 03:26:41,880
Speaker 1: like I like half freegoogl right, So because guys, but

3551
03:26:42,200 --> 03:26:45,240
Speaker 1: all I and then when I see your name and

3552
03:26:45,320 --> 03:26:48,280
Speaker 1: when I see your name attached to all these other names,

3553
03:26:48,320 --> 03:26:51,280
Speaker 1: and I was just like, damn, this is this is

3554
03:26:51,400 --> 03:26:54,160
Speaker 1: so dope for my homie to come because because I

3555
03:26:54,320 --> 03:26:56,920
Speaker 1: know you from back there, but but for my homie

3556
03:26:57,000 --> 03:26:59,920
Speaker 1: to come and bless us because that's what you choose

3557
03:27:00,160 --> 03:27:01,600
Speaker 1: is you could have been in any world in the

3558
03:27:01,720 --> 03:27:05,440
Speaker 1: world tonight. You can't here though, but you're here with

3559
03:27:05,560 --> 03:27:15,320
Speaker 1: drink chance, So thank you so much. And don't mix

3560
03:27:15,400 --> 03:27:18,440
Speaker 1: that drink. Hit it straight cast. So bo up now.

3561
03:27:18,520 --> 03:27:23,040
Speaker 1: I was too late. Don't mix that drink. It's straight cast.

3562
03:27:23,160 --> 03:27:26,439
Speaker 1: So bo up now, I was too late. Drink Japanese

3563
03:27:26,520 --> 03:27:32,160
Speaker 1: whiskey preferably yeah Zaka eight teams. Definitely, I still got you,

3564
03:27:32,640 --> 03:27:35,200
Speaker 1: like who got out? You spending big money since big

3565
03:27:35,320 --> 03:27:37,959
Speaker 1: hat who shot you? Time? And is everything? So why

3566
03:27:38,040 --> 03:27:40,920
Speaker 1: you gotta whack watch? I got security and snipers on

3567
03:27:40,959 --> 03:27:43,640
Speaker 1: the black block. They thinking Keto when I'm saying one

3568
03:27:43,720 --> 03:27:46,080
Speaker 1: mill of day, ain't talking fact that when I'm talking

3569
03:27:46,160 --> 03:27:48,760
Speaker 1: one mill of day, could probably double it by leaving

3570
03:27:48,800 --> 03:27:52,000
Speaker 1: out the country before keep my at home. I'm happy, mom,

3571
03:27:52,040 --> 03:27:55,920
Speaker 1: fleet secure like Ray. I interview with Isasa raymore blush

3572
03:27:56,000 --> 03:27:58,120
Speaker 1: against the hips that be on Lisa Ray wikes that

3573
03:27:58,320 --> 03:28:01,120
Speaker 1: drink and it's straight and it's cast. So for up now,

3574
03:28:01,160 --> 03:28:04,440
Speaker 1: I was too late. Don't make that drink and it's

3575
03:28:04,480 --> 03:28:07,400
Speaker 1: straight cast, So war up now, I was too late

3576
03:28:08,480 --> 03:28:14,040
Speaker 1: coming drink with me. Get shook and drunk to come

3577
03:28:14,160 --> 03:28:19,280
Speaker 1: and drink with me. Get your coups to come through time.

3578
03:28:19,320 --> 03:28:22,960
Speaker 1: I'm really happy. I'm really yeappy, really drinking your jews

3579
03:28:23,000 --> 03:28:26,879
Speaker 1: because y'all drink pappy fad winkle. My suits don't winkle.

3580
03:28:27,160 --> 03:28:31,040
Speaker 1: Always had the piss. I never had the twinkle, nor remasculine.

3581
03:28:31,440 --> 03:28:34,240
Speaker 1: We had Tomasgulate, big boy trumps in the big boys.

3582
03:28:34,280 --> 03:28:36,360
Speaker 1: We had to left. I see they claiming that they

3583
03:28:36,480 --> 03:28:39,040
Speaker 1: rich to the bill, come to they accident or I

3584
03:28:39,120 --> 03:28:41,520
Speaker 1: got him, like they tell drawing a new life to me,

3585
03:28:41,680 --> 03:28:44,959
Speaker 1: like new life to me is cocaine a whole new

3586
03:28:45,080 --> 03:28:47,920
Speaker 1: white to me? I see they copy me without a gun.

3587
03:28:48,000 --> 03:28:51,480
Speaker 1: It's still a robbery drink. Chances a phenomenalone looks that

3588
03:28:51,640 --> 03:28:54,560
Speaker 1: drink and it's straight cast, So w up now, I

3589
03:28:54,720 --> 03:28:59,080
Speaker 1: was too late, don't make that drink and it's straight cast.

3590
03:28:59,120 --> 03:29:03,000
Speaker 1: So up now it's too late. Come in drink with me,

3591
03:29:03,440 --> 03:29:08,960
Speaker 1: Get get drunk, to come in drink with me, Get

3592
03:29:11,120 --> 03:29:15,280
Speaker 1: come through. Thanks for joining us for another episode of

3593
03:29:15,360 --> 03:29:17,840
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03:29:18,320 --> 03:29:20,440
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Speaker 1: on Twitter, mine is at Who's Crazy on I g

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