1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up, 2 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: straight Fire fan? It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight Fire for Wednesday, January. 3 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 1: It is a beautiful Wednesday morning. I'm waking up, not 4 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: having stayed up late last night. Football season only has 5 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: a handful of games left. I believe we're down to 6 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:33,200 Speaker 1: seven games for this weekend Conference Championships, super Bowl. It's 7 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: the marathon is nearly over, Ladies and gentlemen. We got 8 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: a great guest today to partially preview some of the games. 9 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: Talk a lot about the Chargers and Patriots, two teams 10 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: he played for. Rich Ornberger radio guy comes on FS one, 11 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 1: does some of the shows. Super nice guy. I've known 12 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: him for a little bit. And um, this Charger stuff, guys, 13 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: I you've gotta be thoroughly depressed. I mean, could add 14 00:00:56,720 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: Sean Payton and you just stick with Let's stick with 15 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: what we got, Let's stick with Brandon's Daily. It's almost 16 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 1: like the billionaire owner trying to outthink everybody who watches football, 17 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: everybody who is aggrieved at the Chargers that they're holding 18 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: justin Herbert back. But um, we'll get into it with Rich. 19 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: Only two things before we dive into the interview. Two 20 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: things that jump out one NBA, one NFL. I think 21 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: so far on the Black Monday coaching carousel, all that 22 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 1: fun stuff, the biggest move was one that didn't happen, 23 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 1: and that would be Ben Johnson, the Detroit Lions offensive 24 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: coordinator staying in Detroit, announced late Tuesday night that he 25 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 1: is going to return to the offense. And you saw guys, 26 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 1: the wide receivers go on Instagram and they're like so excited. 27 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: I'm just telling you this Detroit team next year. I know, 28 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: I know, yeah. And the season strong, it doesn't usually 29 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: carry over. I get that, but there are plenty of 30 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: metrics that say this Detroit team. If you take out 31 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: some of the games where they were missing Swift, Amaras 32 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: st Brown, the injuries were kind of piling up early 33 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: issue season. I think they started one in six when 34 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 1: they were fully healthy. That offense was a machine, and 35 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: the defense looked pretty sharp late in the season. Folks. 36 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: Detroit also decent draft pick situation here. They got the 37 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: sixth overall pick because the Rams were awful. They also 38 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: have the eighteenth pick. Finished the season seven and two 39 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 1: Jared goff one in Green Bay. The defense really sweat 40 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: Daron Rodgers. I can't believe I'm talking about the Lions 41 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 1: as much, but I think if you're looking at a 42 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 1: team from the NFC and a team from the a 43 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: f C, like when you're in Vegas this summer, throw 44 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 1: a couple of shekels on them to win the division 45 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: over win total um. Maybe when the conference, that's a 46 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: bit of a leap to go, no playoffs to win 47 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: the conference. That being said, I think you've got to 48 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 1: look at Detroit, and you've got to look at the 49 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers in the a f C. I don't want 50 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 1: to see what happens with them. The offensive coordinator. I'm 51 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 1: not a huge Matt Canada fan, but I think you're 52 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 1: you're talking about getting two first round picks in Detroit. Listen, 53 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 1: the beauty of Ben Johnson staying is Dan Campbell's the 54 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: defensive guy, right, Dan Campbell's Actually I'm no, I'm sorry, 55 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: I take that back. Dan Campbell played tight end and 56 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: he's like a tough guy, trenches guy. Let's rally troop, 57 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: let's get fired up, come on, let's do this. You 58 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 1: know one of those dudes, he's not exits and O's 59 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: cooking up awesome plays. He's not gonna get in Ben 60 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 1: Johnson's way when Ben Johnson has some good stuff that 61 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: he wants to an unleash. I mean, he's in a 62 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: great spot. You know, if you go other places, you 63 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: got to one of these other jobs where Duc got fired, Like, 64 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: oh well, hypothetically, let's just say my Jets, and if 65 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: the Jets are good but they don't make the playoffs, 66 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: solid is probably going and Ben Johnson's gone to right. 67 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I think this is actually a good job 68 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: to stay list in Chicago. They got a little ways 69 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: to go. I think everybody knows Minnesota will regress. Let's 70 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 1: see if uh, let's see if the Packers are able 71 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: to do a lot better. I think there'll be a 72 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: little better, but we'll see. Rogers wasn't awesome this season. Um, 73 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: I think there's there's a chance Detroit win the division 74 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: next year. And they drafted well. I think we talked 75 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 1: about this. They had guys like Malcolm Rodriguez, Kirby Joseph 76 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: playing a ton as rookies. Jamison Williams only played in 77 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: six game. Can you imagine what Jamison uh Williams is 78 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: gonna be doing when he's able to actually be unleashed 79 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 1: next year fully healthy. Penney Sewell, the guy they drafted 80 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: in two thousand one, uh Amara st Brown's a fourth 81 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: round pick. There's a young team with a lot of talent. 82 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: If they can, I think you need to grab a 83 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: cornerback in the draft, one more defensive lineman. I'll have 84 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 1: my mock draft coming out for Fox Sports here probably 85 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 1: in about a week. I think there is a chance 86 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: that this team wins the division nextor they could be 87 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 1: a ten win team in Detroit. Ben Johnson is that 88 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: I'm that's sold on him. I mean, the guy was 89 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: excellent this year. You want to go, you wanna have 90 00:04:57,920 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: fun and your board out off your ass at work today. 91 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 1: Just dial up any like Detroit Lions, Jacksonville Jaguars on 92 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: YouTube and you could see like the condensed version in 93 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: like eight or ten minutes. And if you watch some 94 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: of the place, the dudes on Detroit are wide open golf. 95 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 1: Is not being asked to make a lot of tight 96 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: window throws, and he could do them, and they got 97 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 1: a lot of games indoors. I haven't looked at the 98 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: opponents yet, that's a little early for that. But I 99 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: just think Detroit in the NFC and and Pittsburgh for sure. 100 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: In the a f C. UM there's a Pittsburgh team 101 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 1: that has a quarterback on a rookie deal. Can he 102 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: Pickett is gonna be the guy. There's no looking over 103 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: his shoulder, and now you can build around I mean, 104 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: the offensive line was putrid. I think you got a 105 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 1: good good amount of talent on that team. They got 106 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: the pick from the Bears at in the Claypool deal, 107 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: so I think it's like the since the Bears have 108 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:46,919 Speaker 1: the number one pick, the Claypool pick goes over, so 109 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: they got the thirty third pick in the draft. Pittsburgh 110 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: does as well as seventeen, so that's virtually two first 111 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: round picks. And remember the pick at the top of 112 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: the second round is immensely valuable because there's a lot 113 00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 1: of people who maybe had someone on their board that 114 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: did go and they say, hey, it makes sense for 115 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: us to trade up and get him, and then you 116 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: get more picks. I don't know if Pittsburgh necessarily needs 117 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: more picks. They used a couple of high impact players, 118 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 1: especially on the offensive line because they got pushed around 119 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 1: a ton. Um everything else though, I like Pittsburgh. UM. 120 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 1: The other topic and I'll be brief is the NBA, 121 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: and um, you know, I try not to get embroiled 122 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 1: in some of these discussions on social media. I'm doing 123 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: way less Twitter now that NFL is starting to wind down. 124 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 1: But the more I look at the NBA at large, 125 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 1: And I said on on Cowherd Show last week, he 126 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: was asking me, Okay, if you're starting a team in 127 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:41,359 Speaker 1: the NBA, give me your top four guys or whatever. 128 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: You know, It's like, okay, well, I'd go Luca and 129 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: then Janice and maybe Victor. Victor wemban Yama and his 130 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: head nearly exploded. And of course, you know, one of 131 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: the producers was like freaking out, how could you do that? 132 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, I'm gonna go ahead 133 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: and put Jason Tatum in there. I'm a huge Tatum guy. 134 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: Did you see the stat Jason Tatum of the Celtics 135 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 1: now has more were fifty point games in his career 136 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:05,919 Speaker 1: then Larry Bird, I think Tatum's might be. And I 137 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 1: know I know what you're gonna say, Oh, well, it's 138 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: inflated stats. No no, no, no, no, not just inflated stats. 139 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: The NBA right now is better than it has ever 140 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:17,679 Speaker 1: been and I know there's a lot of Jordan fanboys 141 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: who listen to this and you get to send me 142 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: d M on the Graham Guys, the three best players 143 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: in the NBA right now, who are going to be 144 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: leading the VP race or Luca don Chech Janice and 145 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: for the third straight year, Nicole. What do they have 146 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: in common? They're all Europeans. The three best players in 147 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: American basketball are Europeans. They didn't play a minute of 148 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: college in the United States. Just let that sink in. 149 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: In the nineties, the probably the two best Euros in 150 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 1: the league. What do we want to go Draws and 151 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: Petrovic who passed way way too early, Vlada Divac when 152 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: I was a huge fan, Tony co coach, you know, 153 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: Paga Storiographic I think was early two thousand's. But again, 154 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: those guys never sniffed an MVP award. I think who 155 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: coach maybe was like six Man of the Year. I'm 156 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 1: sure Vlade and Paja and Petrovic they were maybe an 157 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: All Star once or twice. I'm talking about the three 158 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 1: best players in the NBA are Europeans. Best above Shay Giljis, 159 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: Alexander and Tatum and Curry and Durant and Lebron and 160 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 1: a D and Zion whoever you want to throw in there. 161 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: That's how deep the league is right now. So it's 162 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: it's it's weird because like baseball had that problem with 163 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: when Mike Trout was the best player in baseball for 164 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: what two or three years, and all of a sudden 165 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: it was like, who is Mike Trout? If he like 166 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: rang your doorbell and was giving you an Amazon package 167 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: and he was not in Anaheim Angels gear and you 168 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 1: open the door, would you know it was Mike Trout? 169 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: Be real, Now that I know there's some bargore baseball fans. 170 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: Of course, Jason, you're a moron. He was the best 171 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: player in the league, and you've got to actually think 172 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: about whether or not you would recognize him now, Nicole 173 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 1: Yokich is what six eleven to seventy, Like he's Doughey 174 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 1: European guy. Listen, that's a little obvious. But he's not 175 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: in a million commercials. Mike Trout wouldn't do commercials now, 176 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 1: he wasn't doing national commercials. Yeah, is he marketable? I 177 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: don't know. Aaron Judge certainly is he's on the Yankees? 178 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: Is your kis marketable. I don't know you follow any 179 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: of those guys on the Gram. I followed Luca, probably 180 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: should follow Jana. Be honest, I don't even know if 181 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: Yokich is on Instagram? And and from that perspective, does 182 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: it hurt the league that you know your three best 183 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: players a aren't American. I'm not being xenophobic. I love 184 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 1: these you guys. I've been raving about Luca for years. 185 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 1: It's not a bad thing. I just I'm asking what 186 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 1: is it? I haven't fully thought this through. I'm just 187 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: floating it because we have an interview coming up, just 188 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: food for thought. What does it mean for the league 189 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 1: right now? I'm telling you, right now, you put the 190 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 1: ten best players twenty whatever you want the number to be, 191 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: against the ten best players in the nineteen eighties, It's 192 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 1: not close. These guys wipe the floor with the best 193 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: of the eighties. And trust me, I'm a huge magic 194 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:44,199 Speaker 1: He was my favorite player in all of sports Bird Jordan's. 195 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 1: These guys are iconic, legendary figures in the NBA. But 196 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: from a talent perspective, and I know the league is 197 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: a little different. They've made it favorable to offensive players, 198 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: but the growth and the development. The offensive skill right 199 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: now is far super richard then when it has ever 200 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 1: been in the league ever. And I know the three 201 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 1: pointers have skewed it a little bit, But the moves 202 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: you see these guys doing on a regular basis, I 203 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: mean I think I saw stat that like fifty guys 204 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: are averaging over twenty points a game. That's the motion 205 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: in NBA history by a mile. That's because everyone can score. 206 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 1: And I know that there's people shouting, well nobody wants 207 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: to play defense. Well, you guys, have you all? You 208 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: know there's always good offense beats good defense. Always. That's 209 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: always gonna be the case, except in the rec league 210 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 1: that I play in, because we know how to defend. 211 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 1: And yes, I have told a lot of people about 212 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 1: our strategy, how we left their worst player open. And 213 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:43,559 Speaker 1: when you're the worst player on a team with awesome players, 214 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 1: you don't want to be the guy missing a million shots. 215 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:49,319 Speaker 1: And eventually our opponent in the Sunday night match, they 216 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 1: decide they finally I heard them, you know, they're like, hey, 217 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:54,199 Speaker 1: you guys aren't guarding you. They didn't realize this toil 218 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 1: like the second half, you've got to be the screener 219 00:11:57,480 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: these guys aren't usually losing. They've dominated the league so 220 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: essentially that they would have that guy come out and 221 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 1: set screens and we're just not gonna guard him. We'll 222 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: go over the screens. We're not giving you the three. 223 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:08,839 Speaker 1: Well here's the thing. Now, in the NBA you can 224 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: say that, But Luca Dunche with the step back like 225 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 1: he could get the shot off over anyone. He's six seven. 226 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 1: Luca is bigger hype perspective, body perspective than Michael Jordan's. 227 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, Jordan's posting up your honest, what what 228 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 1: What's he gonna do it against? Honest, I know he's 229 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: a great, one of the greatest scores in the history 230 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: of the league, but he's not going to dominate your 231 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 1: honest on the block. He's just not the guy is 232 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: He's one of one, a total unicorn scoring on Jannice. 233 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 1: I mean every time down the court. Come on, Jordan 234 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 1: never faced the magic. I just I can't even fathom, 235 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: like Magic Johnson backing down eighties point guards to get 236 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 1: off his baby hook. Come on, this cake couldn't gard 237 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 1: him with point guards. They were like six two six 238 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: three Magic. Now current NBA good luck trying to back down. 239 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: You know, some of these six, seven, six, eight point 240 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:12,319 Speaker 1: cards just not happening. That the league has just changed 241 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 1: so much. Obviously, it's a good discussion for another day. 242 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 1: Maybe we'll do it tomorrow, but at any rate, let's 243 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:21,559 Speaker 1: get to our guest, former NFL offensive lineman Rich Ornberger. 244 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 245 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Fox Sports 246 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 1: Radio dot com and within the I Heart Radio app 247 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 1: search f s R to listen live. Jason likes to 248 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 1: think he knows everything when it comes to sports. I 249 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: know what sports stands want, but for everything he doesn't, 250 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: he knows a guy who does. Let's just say I 251 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 1: know a guy who knows a guy who knows another guy. 252 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 1: All right, let's welcome into straight fire a guest. He 253 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:57,319 Speaker 1: played in the NFL. Now he's in the media, that 254 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 1: smooth transition, radio, TV. He really does it all. But 255 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: given what went down this week with the Chargers, I'm 256 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,559 Speaker 1: extremely disappointed he played for the Chargers. He also played 257 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 1: for the Patriots. So we'll get into what the heck 258 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:12,599 Speaker 1: is going on with Belichick in company. Let's welcome in 259 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: Rich Ornberger. Rich, how are you man, I'm really good. 260 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 1: How are you doing, Jason? Yeah, listen, I'm not a 261 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 1: diehard Chargers fan. I'm a I'm a Charger fan, but 262 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 1: i'm a die hard and uh, I don't know, like 263 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: just it's a rough week. Frankly, I'm disappointed, they kept saying, 264 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: But I don't want to jump right into it. You 265 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: obviously host radio shows TV. I'm curious what are you 266 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: getting asked most about here in the NFL postseason. It's 267 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: like the number one question. Is it offseason stuff with coaches, players, 268 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 1: free agency, quarterbacks or is it playoff stuff? It's mainly 269 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: playoffs stuff. You know everybody, and you know this better 270 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 1: than anybody, Jason, because you actually put real wagers out there. 271 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: You back up with all the plays that you hand 272 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: out with actual money on the line. People want an 273 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: edge because sports betting has become so huge, and so 274 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 1: you know, I keep getting it's like, hey, you know upcoming. Yeah, 275 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 1: I know it's early, but what do you think about 276 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 1: this divisional round? You know, you know Joe Burrow, he's 277 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 1: pretty good. Huh. You know, like everybody wants everybody wants 278 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: a little bit in insight. They want to get a 279 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: little bit closer to the flame. And the truth is, man, 280 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: there is a beautiful randomness to the NFL postseason where 281 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: everybody's good, anybody who's left at the tippy top of 282 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: this mountaintop. As we get, you know, closer and closer 283 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 1: to the final matchup that we saw it. We saw 284 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: a bear out with the Jacksonville Jaguars, who I imagine 285 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 1: there weren't a lot of people who are on the 286 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: side of seeing Jacksonville conquer the Chargers, even though even 287 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 1: though that's exactly what happened in the second half, I 288 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: think there's a lot of people who looked at the 289 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins and said, Okay, yeah, they snuck in that 290 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 1: last wild card spot, this will be an easily dispatched 291 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: team by a much more talented squad, and we saw 292 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 1: how big of a headache they could be. Even the Ravens, 293 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: who are banged up a little bit lame starting Tyler Hunt. 294 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: They gave it all they had and it came down 295 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: to a final play against Joe Burrow in the Cincinnati Bengals. 296 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 1: So everybody's looking for that edge. Everybody wants to see 297 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: if there's just a little little, you know, deep appeal 298 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 1: to that onion that I can give them, and the 299 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: fun thing is trying to decode it all. M Um, 300 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 1: you know, rich the twenty seven nothing lead the Chargers had. 301 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 1: You've been in a lot of locker rooms. You played 302 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: high school football, you played at Penn State, you played 303 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: in the NFL. I'm just trying to did you have 304 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: Can you ever think of like a huge loss where 305 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 1: you guys were up, you know, three four scores and 306 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: you totally blew it? Like what's going through the mindset 307 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: on the sideline? Because I like, listen, I played a 308 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: lot of rex sports. I've been a pro athlete, obviously, 309 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: But you can feel the momentum shifting, and you can 310 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 1: we can call all the time out you want, you 311 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 1: can give fouls, you can huddle up, but for whatever reason, 312 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 1: that momentum could not be stopped. And what hurts more 313 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: for the charges they had they had justin Herbert, the 314 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: better quarterback in the game. Just tell me about what 315 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: that's like. What's going through their minds is it's kind 316 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 1: of unraveling. I've never been in a game where the 317 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: momentum stopped that cold for one team, and I watched 318 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: our hope slip away like that. But Obviously, I've been 319 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 1: a part of games where the lead has changed and 320 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:19,400 Speaker 1: what what happens is it sort of feels like there's 321 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: a little bit of a snowball effect. It's like allowing 322 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 1: the same play to beat you twice. I mean, that's 323 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: a real thing. That is a real thing. There's an 324 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 1: emotional intelligence to a game that not enough people talk about. 325 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: And that's where Doug Peterson really shines as a head coach. 326 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:35,639 Speaker 1: He understands how to speak to a locker room. He 327 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 1: understands how to speak to a quarterback. He was a quarterback, 328 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: and think about his role as a quarterback. Yeah, I 329 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: mean he played a bunch of years in the NFL, 330 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 1: but he was a backup. What does a backup job 331 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 1: is to support the starting quarterback, to give an ear 332 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 1: to bend, to understand what's going through a quarterback's mind. 333 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 1: Who actually has to go out there game after game, 334 00:17:55,960 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 1: play after play and make the plays requisite to have success. 335 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: And if you're not a good teammate as a backup quarterback, 336 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 1: they'll find someone else to do it. They will find 337 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: someone else to do it. So he's transitioned marvelously into 338 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,919 Speaker 1: the coaching world because he understands how to speak to 339 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 1: the most important position on the field, and so while 340 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 1: everything was going wrong on the charge you side by, 341 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 1: somehow he was able to get Trevor Lawrence back into 342 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 1: that that confidence slot that we saw him so many 343 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 1: times at Clemson play, and he was in control and 344 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 1: command of that offense. He does some, really I'm talking 345 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 1: about the coach now, Peterson, some really impressive game planning 346 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:36,640 Speaker 1: things that very few coaches really do these days, where 347 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: he's scheming up plays that specifically stressed the defense, and 348 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 1: he saw that on display both in the run game 349 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: in the past past game. I mean, really, the only 350 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 1: other coach doing it these days, and it's no wonder 351 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 1: that Peterson knows how to do it is Andy Reid 352 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 1: and he comes off to that coaching tree. Um. I 353 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 1: just over the weekend, I didn't particularly think the games 354 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 1: were great. UM. Dallas was a snoozer. UM. I'll ask 355 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 1: you quickly about Brady. Brady was there when you were 356 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 1: with the Patriots. Um, I'm not in the boat that 357 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 1: he's washed. I I didn't particularly see that. The big 358 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 1: biggest difference I saw, Rich is this is a quarterback 359 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,639 Speaker 1: who cannot scramble and in the modern NFL. If you 360 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: look at I believe every other quarterback left in the postseason, 361 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 1: they can use their legs for escapability, to elongate the play, 362 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 1: keep it alive. Brady just he ain't doing that. Um. 363 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:29,919 Speaker 1: I do think though, he can thrive in a system 364 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: with I don't know, Josh McDaniels and Davandi Adams and 365 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 1: maybe Waller and renfro Um. So I don't think he's 366 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 1: washed but I saw a lot of that yesterday on 367 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: social media, a little kind of disappointing. Yeah, I don't 368 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 1: think he's washed up. He just is who he is, 369 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 1: and he's a pocket passer, and he's unflinchingly a pocket pastor. 370 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 1: And if it isn't there these days, he's not gonna 371 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 1: hang in the pocket the way he used to and 372 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 1: try to deliver strike when the defense is bearing down 373 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 1: and you know a safety is coming free or a 374 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: linebackers coming free and is gonna hit him in his 375 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: ribs to get the ball up. Especially especially in the 376 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 1: second half of that game, you know we're there opportunities 377 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 1: probably to hang in there a little bit and make 378 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 1: some plays downfield. Maybe, But you also got to remember, 379 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 1: this is a guy who's in his mid forties. He's 380 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: probably looking to play at least one more season, most 381 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: likely not in Tampa if you're asking me today. And 382 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: if that's the case, there's a level of self sacrifice 383 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:28,120 Speaker 1: that I don't imagine he was necessarily willing to make. 384 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,719 Speaker 1: It sort of reminds you of the old saying, like 385 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 1: when a corner is coming up, coming up on the 386 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 1: outside to make a tackle against running back. He made 387 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 1: a business decision. I think in some ways Tom Brady 388 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:42,160 Speaker 1: made a business decision in the second half of that game, 389 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 1: or at very at least late in the second half 390 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 1: of that game, knowing that the war is over and 391 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: that it's time to pack it in and say goodbye 392 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 1: to Tampa and and just take take stock of the 393 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 1: success that he's had since he's been there, maybe take 394 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:01,159 Speaker 1: a little time before making an ultimate decision. But ultimately 395 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 1: I think he comes back now, is you washed? No, 396 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 1: But but without the right system, he's not gonna look right. 397 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: M But the good thing is he could pick the 398 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 1: system he wants to go to, or you know, he 399 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 1: could kind of dictate, Hey, this is what we're gonna do. 400 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 1: And I think most teams are gonna go along with it. 401 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:20,880 Speaker 1: I heard a horrible rumor um that the Jets Woody Johnson, 402 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 1: who loves star quarterbacks, remember what he did to get 403 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 1: Brett Farve um, Woody Johnson is going to keep up 404 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 1: put on his you know, Republican jacket and make a 405 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 1: play for Brady and then he could sit Zach Wilson 406 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: for a year behind Brady to learn behind a great one, 407 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 1: and then they go from Brady to Wilson. And that 408 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 1: the Jets would go for this because it's Tom Brady, 409 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 1: it's Needling Belichick, it's a star. They'll get a bunch 410 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 1: of TV games. Tell me Rich that this makes you 411 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 1: sick to your stomach like it does for me. That 412 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 1: sounds crazy, man, that sounds crazy. It's just look, I mean, 413 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 1: do certain aspects of this makes sense? Yeah, I mean, 414 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 1: because like there's a certain extent that makes you believe ball. 415 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 1: You know, the Jets have a really really talented defense, 416 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 1: and they've got a burgeoning offensive unit, you know, and 417 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:13,439 Speaker 1: there's some really talented players around that offense. And with 418 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 1: some health next season and a little bit better luck 419 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 1: and maybe a few more improvements and tweets on that 420 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 1: offensive line and a better quarterback couldn't look better. Absolutely, 421 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: But I don't know, man. I You know, I keep 422 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:30,880 Speaker 1: going back to the pairing of Sean Payton and Tom 423 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 1: Brady and how that was so close to coming together 424 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 1: in Miami that something tells me that that deal may 425 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: not be off the table. And we haven't heard Sean 426 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: Paynton make a decision, and maybe that's because he's waiting 427 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 1: for Brady. And again this is pure speculation on my behalf. 428 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: But the Saint right now they still have Sean Payton's rights. 429 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 1: Tom Brady, if there's one thing that we've learned about 430 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,159 Speaker 1: his career is he can get to the postseason when 431 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 1: he's playing in a weak division. No sweat the a 432 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 1: f C East for many years now the NFC South, which, 433 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 1: by the way, if he leaves Tampa Bay is going 434 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: to be rebuilding alongside the Atlanta Falcons and the Carolina Panthers. 435 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,160 Speaker 1: What if Sean Payton and Tom Brady met back up 436 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: in New Orleans with the top ten defense from last year, 437 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:20,199 Speaker 1: some weapons around that offense and you know, a forty 438 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: one overall pick I think they have in the second 439 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:26,199 Speaker 1: round to improve that offense. I could see it. WHOA 440 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,199 Speaker 1: that that's that's what I have not considered till Peyton 441 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 1: would pass on Denver and go back to New Orleans 442 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:39,160 Speaker 1: and bring Brady with him interesting run the Drew Brees 443 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:44,639 Speaker 1: offense offense, and then and then think of it this way, 444 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: he could probably convince the Saints, you know, to peel 445 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 1: him off a couple more bucks because he's promising them 446 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 1: Tom Brady. And then you know, in the interim, look, 447 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 1: Tom is a teacher. It's like having another coach on 448 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,439 Speaker 1: staff with So if they go ahead and they draft 449 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 1: one of these first round talent quarterbacks, who drops to 450 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 1: the second round with that first pick in the second round, 451 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 1: and they get some free agent wide receivers, I just 452 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 1: I just see it kind of as one of those 453 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 1: things where all the stars could align where he stays 454 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 1: in a down division in the NFC South, where it's 455 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 1: an easier path to the playoffs, and he gets his 456 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 1: coach to that division is the worst in football. Fox 457 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 1: Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. 458 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 1: Catch all of our shows at Fox sports Radio dot 459 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: com and within the I Heart Radio app search f 460 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 1: s R to listen live. So I'm looking at the 461 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 1: free agent list on spot track. Landry's up Marcus Davenport, 462 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 1: Bradley Roby on your matah anybody else good? P J 463 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: p J. Williams. I don't know if he's very good anymore. Um. Yeah, 464 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 1: it seems like they don't have a ton of free agents. 465 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 1: They love to play the salary cat game. That's that's 466 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 1: pretty fascinating. I gotta give you props on that one. 467 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 1: Or I had not considered. Did you know this idea 468 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,159 Speaker 1: that Brady goes to the Raiders, He's then playing Herbert twice, 469 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 1: Mahomes twice, Wilson twice. I mean, he's a competitor. He 470 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 1: doesn't ultimately care. But if you could tell me on hey, 471 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 1: you're going back to that crap division where you want 472 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,399 Speaker 1: went to the playoffs at eight nine, Yeah, maybe that 473 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: makes sense. Um, to go back to the charges real quick. 474 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: If they had called you in the owner the g 475 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: M to LESCo, if they call you in and say, hey, Rich, 476 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 1: we're just talking to people we value and respect or 477 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 1: a good part of the organization. Do we keep Staley, 478 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:37,679 Speaker 1: do we bring on Peyton? What would you do? I 479 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 1: would ask a very important question. It's probably the most 480 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 1: important question that any UH any ownership group has to 481 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,639 Speaker 1: think of. For general manager, whoever is in charge of 482 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:52,360 Speaker 1: these decisions has to think of does the locker room 483 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 1: still believe in this guy? That is the most important thing. 484 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 1: If you have a coach who you're willing to go 485 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 1: out there in battle four, I mean, shoot, you know, 486 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,159 Speaker 1: run through a wall forar I mean that's not just 487 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: an expression. Guys are legitimately, you know, depending on the 488 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 1: right coach, they're they're willing to go to severe lengths 489 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:14,159 Speaker 1: to win for him because there's a belief in the system, 490 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 1: in the quality of coaching, in the development of players, 491 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 1: and that your plan is the best plan. It's um 492 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,639 Speaker 1: So if that's still there after all of this, you know, 493 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 1: there's a lot of noise on the outside about Brandon Stally, 494 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: I'm very curious what that locker room thinks of him. 495 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 1: So if if they have a firm grasp on this 496 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: locker room and they've spoken to the leadership inside this 497 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: locker room, Herbert Alan Williams Bossa, you know, Derwin James 498 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 1: and these guys are singing the praises of Brandon stalely 499 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,439 Speaker 1: like we we love what he's doing here, then you 500 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,400 Speaker 1: keep them. You keep them because it is it they're 501 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:55,399 Speaker 1: running the risk of inmates running the asylum. If you ask, 502 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 1: like the star players, what do you want to do? 503 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: Because then what if they come to you and they're like, man, 504 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 1: I don't like this defense courty. You gotta get rid 505 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 1: of them. Yeah, I mean, those those are look, those 506 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:08,120 Speaker 1: those are your your your product though those I mean, 507 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to sound insensitive, because you know, 508 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 1: these are people and they have families and they have 509 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 1: people who love them. But you gotta pay attention to 510 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 1: the messaging from the top and if it's being received 511 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:27,439 Speaker 1: at the retail level, you know, I mean, this is 512 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 1: your product that's on display every weekend. And if you're 513 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 1: gonna have the best possible product representing your brand and 514 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 1: you you need to have complete one commitment to the 515 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: game plan. You have to have complete like sell out. 516 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 1: You have to have every guy in that locker room 517 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 1: believing that what they're getting is the best possible advice 518 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,399 Speaker 1: from the tippy top um. And if they if they 519 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,360 Speaker 1: don't feel that way, they're not going to fight as 520 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 1: hard as say a chief's locker room. Their belief in 521 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 1: Andy Reid is unflinching. I mean, ask anybody in that 522 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,439 Speaker 1: Jaguars locker room what they feel about Peterson today. I mean, 523 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 1: those guys have won super Bowls. You know, this is Staley, 524 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 1: second year guy. I mean, it's a tough I'm trying 525 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 1: to think of a tough comparison. Yeah, you know, I 526 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 1: was going to bail and read. I went through one. Look, 527 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,160 Speaker 1: you know, I was in San Diego at the time 528 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,119 Speaker 1: with the Chargers when Mike McCoy was the head coach, 529 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 1: and actually turns out now he's on staff with Doug 530 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: Peterson and Jacksonville. So a little bit of symmetry there, right. Um, 531 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: I uh, I remember thinking about Mike McCoy thinking like, well, 532 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 1: this is a really good, offensive minded coach, but he's 533 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: got to learn how to lead from the head coaching position, 534 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 1: and it's difficult and sometimes it takes more than one try. 535 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 1: I mean, we're gonna find out whether or not Josh 536 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 1: McDaniels figured it out, um the second time around. Obviously 537 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 1: moving on from Derek Carr, We'll see what happens next 538 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 1: in Vegas. But yeah, I mean there are certain guys 539 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: where out of the gates, you're like, Okay, he's talent, 540 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 1: did he's got a good mind for his side of 541 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 1: the football. We'll give him some time to figure it out, 542 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 1: but pretty soon here he's got to step into the role. 543 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 1: I look, I'm a big believer in you need to 544 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 1: give time for things to incubate. And I can't stand 545 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 1: how quickly we all will cut bait on a culture 546 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 1: and start from scratch, because you know it's it's just 547 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 1: not yielding fruit yet. I would give Brandon Stalely another year, 548 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 1: but I will say this, I mean the pressure is on. Yeah, 549 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 1: I mean it's possible and conceivable and likely even if 550 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 1: things start going sideways early next year with Brandon Stalely, 551 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 1: it could be an early it could be an early acts. Unfortunately, 552 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 1: it's interesting. So you said, maybe cut bait next year. 553 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 1: So if you look at the five coaches who were 554 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 1: kind of hot seat ish or we're close to being up, 555 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 1: they all had to essentially fire their offensive coordinators. So 556 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 1: you've Ron Rivera. It was like, oh, is he gonna 557 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 1: get fired? Now he'll just have to dump his offensive coordinator. 558 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 1: UM the New York Jets Sale, I don't think he 559 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 1: was in trouble, but they had to do something. They 560 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 1: lost sixth straight to end the season. UM. Who were 561 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 1: the other three? UM? Let's see here, Washington, you're Washington, 562 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 1: New York obviously, Los Angeles. I don't know if Chicago did. 563 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 1: I don't know if chicag Arizona just gutted the staff. 564 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 1: Everybody's gone. McVeigh. I think his offensive coordinator left. He's 565 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: gonna coach at Kentucky, right right, right? But it said 566 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 1: I think there were five I had them earlier. I'm sorry, 567 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 1: I can't think of all of them right now. Oh, 568 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 1: the Titans had to lost his offensive coordinator, and it's 569 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 1: almost like that that's the move. But right before you 570 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 1: get fired, Hey, you want to save your job, you 571 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 1: gotta let go a coach. You gotta make a change. Um, 572 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 1: so I think you're probably onto something now. The interesting 573 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 1: one is Belichick because they didn't demote anybody. They just 574 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 1: kind of opened up. We're going to be interviewing for 575 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 1: offensive coordinators. Did you see that? Yeah? I don't really 576 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 1: that I've ever heard of that. They never officially named 577 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 1: someone OC and now they're looking for one. Can you 578 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 1: decipher that? Yeah? He he If you if you've been 579 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 1: keeping your eye on that website in terms of like 580 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 1: the titles that these coaches have, he's he never labels 581 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 1: anybody anything. It's it's always kind of a morphic. It's 582 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 1: always kind of vague, and I don't necessarily understand why. 583 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 1: I don't really understand why, but it has been that 584 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 1: way for years, and maybe maybe it's a signal to 585 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 1: the coaches out of respect, like hey, it's group think here, 586 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 1: like you know, there's gonna be one guy in the 587 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 1: headset of course, or you know, at a time in 588 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 1: New England this season there were two guys in the 589 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 1: headset depending on what quarter it was, but you know that. 590 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 1: But but out of respect to all the coaches here, 591 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 1: we all were toward building an offensive game plan. We 592 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 1: all work toward building a defensive game plan. So everybody's 593 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 1: gonna share in that credit. Now, I will say this 594 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 1: inside of the building when I was there very much, 595 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 1: so it felt like, you know, Bill was our defensive 596 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 1: coordinator at that time and he was grooming Matt Patricia 597 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 1: to take over at some point, and Billy O'Brien was 598 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 1: our offensive coordinator. Um. But but yeah, there were very 599 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 1: vague job titles and that's how it kind of has 600 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 1: always been in New England. And and again I don't 601 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 1: understand the purpose necessarily, but It doesn't shock me that 602 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 1: he's looking to add to that staff after the year 603 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 1: that Mac Jones had because there was some regression and 604 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 1: you couldn't blame it on the offense. Yeah. Um, all right, 605 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 1: Let's look at the four games, real quick. Four favorites, 606 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 1: all playing at home, Casey eight and a half, Eagles 607 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 1: seven and a half, Bills five, Sanford in three and 608 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 1: a half. Um, is there anyone that jumps out to 609 00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 1: you that you've already bet or you're looking at attacking? Um, 610 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 1: you think there's clearly an edge or some value in 611 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 1: one of these four matchups? Man alive? Do I love 612 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 1: the fort brock Purty? Huh? I love this Rich. All 613 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 1: I keep hearing is what brock Purdy's gonna eventually have 614 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 1: a bad game. He's a rookie, you know he's gonna 615 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 1: turn into a pumpkin. That's like the analysis. It's not 616 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 1: how does the Niners offense match up with the Cowboys even, 617 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 1: none of that. It's just that, Yeah, it's brock Purty. 618 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 1: Come on, he's He's Mr Relevant in the draft. There's 619 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 1: no way he keeps this up. It's weird. The line 620 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 1: feels short to me, But I don't know what do 621 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 1: you see? Look, I I see it with Brock Purty. 622 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 1: It's a it's a little bit of paint by numbers 623 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 1: and it's a little bit of magic. He's he can 624 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 1: play within the system and he can do all the 625 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,719 Speaker 1: things that you know Kyle Shanahan's telling him to do. 626 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 1: But also when plays break down, there are times where 627 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 1: he's improvising and he's explosive. And again, some of it Shanahan, 628 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 1: but some of it is his own brilliance. And does 629 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 1: he play like a rookie sometimes? Absolutely does, But pretty 630 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:08,799 Speaker 1: at the helm of this offense has been explosive, and 631 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 1: Shanahan not has not shied away from the vertical passing 632 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,799 Speaker 1: game with him under center, and then you just look 633 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 1: around this offense in general. Christian McCaffrey is both a 634 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 1: running back and a slot receiver. Uh Kyle Juice Check 635 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 1: can play tight end or fullback. He's so versatile. He's 636 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,320 Speaker 1: a Swiss Army knife of that football team, Deebo Samuel. 637 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,400 Speaker 1: Line him up as a receiver all season, he'll go 638 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,240 Speaker 1: over a thousand yards. Line him up as a running 639 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,880 Speaker 1: back all season, he'll be over a thousand yards. If 640 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 1: he's given the carries Brandon i Yuk is a number 641 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:41,360 Speaker 1: one on any football team in the country outside of 642 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,759 Speaker 1: maybe five. And then George Kittle will wait wait, wait, 643 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 1: you think he's that good? Huh? I think he's a 644 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 1: true number one. I think yeah, yeah, he's emerged. Man, 645 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,440 Speaker 1: if you pay attention to the matchups too. He can 646 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 1: catch a ball on anybody. You can line him up 647 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 1: anywhere and he can win. It's pretty wild what he's 648 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,720 Speaker 1: done across formation on this football team. And then George 649 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,359 Speaker 1: Kittle obviously super skilled tight end, but he blocks like 650 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,279 Speaker 1: a damn extra tackle in the box. It's wild. So 651 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:14,919 Speaker 1: offensively this is a juggernaut. And then defensively they kind 652 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,240 Speaker 1: of waned late in the season. There were some injuries 653 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 1: and things. They haven't looked as good. But are they 654 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 1: good enough to to win and win big in the 655 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 1: opening round against the Dallas team that is coming off 656 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 1: of their best game of the entire year against the 657 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 1: down Bucks team. Yeah. I think it's possible that the 658 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 1: San Francisco forty Niners could put together a real walloping 659 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 1: this this upcoming divisional matchup. It's weird people seem to 660 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,839 Speaker 1: think of last year's playoff matchup Rich and all they 661 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 1: Remember was Dallas kind of fumbling in at the end 662 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 1: and losing by six while they were driving, Remember the 663 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,400 Speaker 1: decks sneak and they ran our time. Um if you 664 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,799 Speaker 1: go back and watch that game on YouTube, you'll see 665 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 1: that it was thirteen nothing twenty three to seven in 666 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:03,480 Speaker 1: the quarter. Like San Francisco dominated this game with Jimmy 667 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,439 Speaker 1: g playing mediocre at best. I think they sacked Deck 668 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:10,800 Speaker 1: five times. You you know this being in an NFL 669 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,720 Speaker 1: locker room. So Quinn and Shanahan were on the same 670 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:17,919 Speaker 1: roster in Atlanta, right, who has the edge here? Does 671 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:19,920 Speaker 1: Shanahan know how to attack him? By the way, in 672 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,720 Speaker 1: that game they rushed for a buck six eight carries 673 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:26,720 Speaker 1: and they did not have Christian McAffrey. Oh, by the way, um, 674 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,760 Speaker 1: or or does Quinn have the edge knowing what's coming 675 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 1: and how to stop this defense that you saw every 676 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 1: or this offense that you saw every day in practice. Yeah, 677 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 1: I just don't know how you stop it. I just don't. 678 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:41,279 Speaker 1: I mean, like, look, sometimes it's a situation where you know, 679 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,759 Speaker 1: you look at yourselves and you say, hey, look, you 680 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:47,759 Speaker 1: know we we just didn't execute. And sometimes you look 681 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 1: at the film and you say, they're guys are just 682 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:54,320 Speaker 1: better than our guys. And and that's just thinking about 683 00:36:54,360 --> 00:37:02,320 Speaker 1: these matchups. I mean, just McCaffrey, Samuel I, you kittle 684 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 1: if they're all running routes like like, who's the most dangerous? 685 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,359 Speaker 1: The answer is is a trick question. They all are. 686 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 1: It's just like I it's it's difficult to defend so 687 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,759 Speaker 1: much talent. Now, could could it be a rare off day. 688 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,760 Speaker 1: Could it be one of those games where brock Purty 689 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:24,320 Speaker 1: throws an early turnover, or there's a special teams gaff 690 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:28,879 Speaker 1: And and Dallas plays encouraged football through the first half. Yeah, 691 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:30,759 Speaker 1: this could be a dog fight. There's no question. That's 692 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,920 Speaker 1: the reason why these games need to be played. But 693 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 1: if you run the model, like if you were going 694 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:40,560 Speaker 1: to similate simulate the game, I just I I just 695 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 1: can't see Dallas beating Like in my brain. It breaks 696 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,120 Speaker 1: my brain to imagine a way that they they end 697 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,040 Speaker 1: up advancing in the fort go home. Yeah. And and 698 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:54,239 Speaker 1: if you remember the only touchdown, um no, no, I'm sorry. 699 00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:57,279 Speaker 1: The only second half touchdown that Dallas scored was off 700 00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,439 Speaker 1: the Jimmy g pick. It was a twenty eight yard drive. 701 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 1: I'm is doing some back of the calculator back of 702 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:06,839 Speaker 1: the Napkin map here it looks like Dallas barely had 703 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 1: two yards of offense heading in the fourth quarter, like 704 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,400 Speaker 1: somewhere in the one mark. I'm not punching the numbers in, 705 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 1: but they basically could not move the football it was 706 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,879 Speaker 1: and of course the penalties killed him. Yeah, I'm kind 707 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:19,919 Speaker 1: of with you. I think the Niners are the side here, 708 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,799 Speaker 1: and by the way, that game last year was in Dallas. Um, 709 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:27,520 Speaker 1: I actually I do think casey um, it is probably 710 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,440 Speaker 1: the best pick of the weekend. Would you agree or no? 711 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,960 Speaker 1: I really love case for so many reasons. Um, I 712 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,959 Speaker 1: think they have a sneaky good defense. They never seem 713 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 1: to get as much respect for what they do defensively, 714 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:43,680 Speaker 1: especially creating a pass rush as they deserve credit for, 715 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:48,400 Speaker 1: and then offensively, This is a bizarrely under the radar 716 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:53,600 Speaker 1: season for Reid and Mahomes because Mahomes got used to 717 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:57,359 Speaker 1: taking with defenses are giving up. Now he still has 718 00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,760 Speaker 1: the moments of brilliance and McKinnon has done a really 719 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:05,040 Speaker 1: nice job replacing a lot of the of of what 720 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:09,960 Speaker 1: was missing with Tyreek Hill leaving in trade. But Mahomes 721 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:13,080 Speaker 1: he's turned into the type of quarterback who can be patient. 722 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:18,440 Speaker 1: And I remember in twenty one, the early knock on 723 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,719 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes was, holy cow, all you gotta do is 724 00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,440 Speaker 1: stop pressuring him, and when he has to stay on script, 725 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,240 Speaker 1: he's gonna throw the ball to you. Well, he stopped 726 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 1: doing that. And so this has been inarguably the most 727 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:34,280 Speaker 1: efficient year offensively for the Kansas City Chiefs, and nobody's 728 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,400 Speaker 1: talking about it because it's not nearly as sexy as 729 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,600 Speaker 1: it was. You know, Mahomes was breaking contained and heaving 730 00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,280 Speaker 1: the ball down field six yards to Tyreek Hill across 731 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,360 Speaker 1: his body and on the other side of the football 732 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,520 Speaker 1: field from the right half to the left. It's just 733 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:51,080 Speaker 1: it's not as sexy, but it's way more efficient. And 734 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:55,239 Speaker 1: and yeah, the same respect that I have for the 735 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 1: versatility of options offensively for the forty niners, I have 736 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:03,680 Speaker 1: that same level of respect for the game planning, uh 737 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 1: intelligence that Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes have been playing 738 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:09,800 Speaker 1: with all season long and have been flying under the 739 00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:14,359 Speaker 1: radar doing it. Yeah, it's it feels like they kind 740 00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:17,960 Speaker 1: of hacked the too deep shell by just adding, oh, yeah, 741 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,839 Speaker 1: let's just dump it off to Jered McKinnon. Yeah, let's 742 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:22,480 Speaker 1: just I mean, by the way McKinnon I picked him 743 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,480 Speaker 1: up in fantasy ended up winning the league. But it's 744 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,080 Speaker 1: as small as that. Like, you know, Brady had his 745 00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,000 Speaker 1: James White back in the day where he would just 746 00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:32,839 Speaker 1: dump it off any problems. Um, and it feels like 747 00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,400 Speaker 1: that's the Mahomes out. Okay, you're gonna play all your 748 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,799 Speaker 1: guys and prevent the deep ball. Fine, I'll just jump 749 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:39,239 Speaker 1: it off the German kinning for eight and ten. And 750 00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,000 Speaker 1: McKinnon is dicing. I mean he is, he looks good. 751 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:43,520 Speaker 1: I'm kind of with you, where are you with me? 752 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:47,399 Speaker 1: Kind of Chiefs Niners super Bowl? Yeah, that feels right, 753 00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:51,000 Speaker 1: I mean it really does. Again, can any of these 754 00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:54,319 Speaker 1: teams get snuck up on? Absolutely? Are there? Yeah? And 755 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,360 Speaker 1: and there are great teams left in the field. You know, 756 00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,840 Speaker 1: we haven't even talked about the Eagles, where, you know, 757 00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 1: depending on jel and hurt health, I mean, that could 758 00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:04,240 Speaker 1: be a team that could be a real sleeper entering 759 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:08,319 Speaker 1: this divisional round against the divisional rival. But um, but yeah, 760 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:10,560 Speaker 1: I mean, if we're going to choose today who I 761 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,680 Speaker 1: think the Super Bowl matchup, it'll be Niners Chiefs and 762 00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,439 Speaker 1: it'll be a nice rematch and Uh. I think it'll 763 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,440 Speaker 1: be a great game because styles make fights, and that's 764 00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,560 Speaker 1: that's a fight I want to watch. Yeah. Rich Ordan 765 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:28,760 Speaker 1: Berger Sports seven sixty in Sun Diago, host Fox Sports Radio. 766 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:33,680 Speaker 1: He analyst San Diego State Football NBC San Diego. I mean, 767 00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,520 Speaker 1: how many jobs do you have? Do too many? Yeah? 768 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:38,720 Speaker 1: You got the kids and the wife. I mean, goodness, 769 00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:41,799 Speaker 1: you're busy, man. Yeah, we are busy down here, but 770 00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,760 Speaker 1: it's work I love. And the football season is always 771 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:48,040 Speaker 1: seven days a week. And uh and so just like you, man, 772 00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:52,280 Speaker 1: I love the grind and I appreciate the time with you. Thanks, buddy, 773 00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,280 Speaker 1: keep up the good work. You're bet